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"Russia fired ..."

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In the West, they write about how the Russians “fired” Syria from the ships of the Caspian flotilla. In fact, cruise missiles were attacked by terrorist targets from the Islamic State. However, in the Western press there are headlines one more beautiful than another. The ball is ruled by propaganda, and the American or European reader begins to think: Russians are attacking again ... None of these readers already remember who was eager to attack Syria for real. And even more so, no one remembers who bombed Libya.


"Russia fired ..."




"Russia fired on the territory of Syria from ships in the Caspian Sea" - under this title came out news on Radio Liberty ( link). And here is the subtitle: "Shoigu reported to Putin about the shelling of the territory of Syria from Russian ships in the Caspian Sea."

What the reader might think? Russians are preparing to seize Syria? How to bomb - and make an "annexation"?

In the first paragraph, the situation is clarified: “The ships of the Caspian Flotilla of the Russian Navy delivered an attack on 26 with cruise missiles at the Islamic State terrorist group in Syria on Wednesday morning.

Who then blames “Freedom” for lying? The only question is how to submit the text. And it is served under the propaganda title. The title also contains a message to attract the attention of the public. And if the author or the editor is able to combine the message with propaganda, there is no price for them. So we read: "Russia fired on the territory of Syria ..." Shelled at the same? Fired. The territory of Syria? Yes. Can Svoboda write: “Russia struck at the lair of terrorists in Syria”? No, it cannot, because in this case freedom of speech will suffer.

Russia declares that it launched rocket attacks on the group of targets of the "Islamic state" in Syria from ships in the Caspian Sea, the English-language website reports "BBC".

According to Russian Defense Minister S. Shoigu, four warships fired 26 with sea-launched 11 cruise missiles, destroying them. There are no civilian casualties.

Russia claims to be focused on the destruction of "all terrorists," continues the BBC, but some of its air strikes, "reportedly," were inflicted on civilians and rebels supported by the West.

US Secretary of Defense Ash Carter spoke. According to him, which leads the television and radio company, the coalition forces leading the fight against terrorists in Syria, will not cooperate with Russia. “We believe that the Russians are implementing the wrong strategy,” he said. - They still hit targets that don't exist. We think this is a fundamental mistake. ”

Russia's decision to attack with cruise missiles, which the Kremlin claims is the goal of ISIS in Syria, represents a “new turn to Moscow’s growing involvement in a crisis,” according to Bi-bi-si. According to the observer, sea cruise missiles have long since become weaponswhich prefer to use the United States, carrying out interventions abroad. Russia is probably trying to “demonstrate” that it has the full military right to use funds from the “superpower” arsenal.

CNSNews.com writes that the Russian military campaign in Syria came to a "new turn" when four warships fired 26 with cruise missiles that the Russian Defense Ministry called the targets of the "Islamic State". Correspondent Patrick Goudinaf (Patrick Goodenough) notes that observers continue to argue: most of the goals for which the Russians had previously struck airstrikes, are associated with the rebels, and not with the IG.

This is reported in the first paragraph of the article. And only then the journalist cites the words of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who reported to President Vladimir Putin that all the IG's 11 targets had been destroyed and that civilian objects were intact.

Further quoted are the words of Putin, who said that strikes using high-precision weapons from the Caspian Sea, from a distance of about 1500 kilometers, testify to the good preparation of the Russian defense industry and the high professional skills of the military.

Then the author of the article turns to the global “concern”. The United States and NATO "expressed concern" about civilian casualties from Russian air strikes. The organization Physicians for Human Rights (Physicians for Human Rights) reported that last Friday and Saturday three medical facilities in Syria were hit by Russian air strikes. It is also alleged that since the beginning of the civil war, "documented" more than 300 attacks on medical institutions and the death of 670 medical workers, and "90 percent of them are associated with the Syrian government forces."

Further cited the statement of the Press Secretary of the US Department of State, John Kirby. This person at the daily briefing stated that “more than 90% of the blows that we have seen so far were not against IG or terrorists affiliated with Al Qaeda. They were largely directed against opposition groups who want a better future for Syria and do not want to see the Assad regime in power. ”

Finally, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said that only two of the 57 Russian air strikes were directed against IG, while the rest were addressed to opposition groups, which themselves fight with IG in northwestern Syria.

This article ends. What conclusion readers of this material should make is easy to guess. Russians are evil, aggressive, destroy medical facilities and support the tyrant Al-Assad, who is fighting against those who want "a better future for Syria." Americans cannot agree on anything with such bad Russians, because Americans are good.

British newspaper "Independent" cites the “apocalyptic” commentary of Pavel Felgenhauer (Pavel Felgenhauer), an “independent military analyst from Moscow”.

The aforementioned analyst foresees in Syria a "terrible bloody massacre", "tens of thousands" of those killed. The expert foresees “consequences for Europe”: there will be “even more refugees”.

The newspaper summarizes: under the cover of Russian air strikes, the Syrian army conducts "ground attacks on the positions of the rebels."

Matthew Rycroft, the British ambassador to the UN, said that Russia, helping Mr. Assad in Syria, would only strengthen IG with its actions and force many Sunnis in Syria to join the extremist group. He added that anyone who looked at the map would see that they (Russians) beat mainly according to the “moderate opposition”, while these people, in the opinion of the West, “should become part of the future of Syria”.

* * *

The position of the West is clear:

1) Russians support Assad and strike not the “IG” terrorists, but the “moderate opposition”. The Syrians from the Assad army are now attacking the same opposition;

2) US-led coalition forces will not cooperate with Russia, because "the Russians are implementing the wrong strategy" and are making a "fundamental mistake";

3) Russians use rockets to reach residential areas and destroy medical facilities. The Assad soldiers and doctors are up in arms;

4) is not at all Assad and his “regime”, but “moderate opposition”, striving for “better”, must “become part of the future of Syria”;

5) Syria faces a "terrible bloody slaughter", the result of which will be "tens of thousands" of those killed. Europe will get "even more refugees."

The latter, however, does not directly relate to the West: it is from the gloomy prophecy of Mr. Felgenhauer.

Recall that Pavel Evgenievich Felgengauer in 2008 year predicted the military advantage of the armed forces of Georgia in a certain conflict and predicted the “very heavy” losses of the Russian troops. Quote by Wikipedia: “There will be very heavy losses for the Russian troops and there will be thousandth losses, including ours aviation. You have to face a fairly serious Georgian air defense system. This is not for you to drive the militants in the North Caucasus. You must understand that you have to fight for the Ossetians and suffer very heavy losses. Otherwise, we must politically agree. I hope that now the fire will stop and the search will begin for Ossetia to return to Georgia. There is apparently no other option now. ”

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    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 8 October 2015 10: 20 New
      52
      All means are good for propaganda. Lavrov and his subordinates will add work. Listen to fairy tales and refute them. Zakharova is already becoming a TV star.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 8 October 2015 10: 23 New
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        It’s time to get used to the fact that everything we do will be perverted and criticized by Western media bought. One should not pay attention to this, or use it as one’s constant and well-known constant in one’s own interests.
        1. Darkmor
          Darkmor 8 October 2015 11: 09 New
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          I went to the censor.
          Some kind of sadomy is going on there. Can people really degrade to this state?
          In the comments about the news, basically this (well, plus a bunch of insults to our president and our country, with or without):
          1) There was no shooting.
          2) There were shootings, but missiles fell right behind the ships
          3) There were shootings, but missiles do not fly so far, I read in pedagogy! 111
          4) There was no shooting, as rockets were supposed to fly through Turkey, I looked at the map in the atlas!
          5) Missiles arrived, but from such a distance fell somewhere in the desert, or on residential villages. And where did the rushka come from with precision weapons?
          6) And finally, once launches 26 and goals 11, then more than half of the missiles did not reach.
          7) And there is nothing for us to be afraid of these missiles, any air defense will bring them down

          Here is the country of victorious insanity ...
          A few years ago, after all, Ukrainians could well maintain a discussion with knowledge of at least the general technical details and criteria of the topic, without slipping into the drooling of the monitor with shouts of "vyvsevretepaganda".
          Well, one TV cannot fool the population so much ... or maybe?
          I, by sinful deed, sometimes think that we are not bombing those :)
          1. McCain
            McCain 8 October 2015 11: 24 New
            -70
            Well, Russians. Have they used up all their ammunition? No pants left?
            Or did they save one rocket to shoot themselves?
            Ha Ha Ha!
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 8 October 2015 11: 36 New
              30
              Quote: McCain
              Well, Russians ... Ha Ha Ha!

              Another stubborn drew .. masochist, probably .. yes
              1. kepmor
                kepmor 8 October 2015 11: 55 New
                25
                No! DOLL ... B is easy!
                1. Victor Demchenko
                  Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 17: 14 New
                  0
                  do not offend the bird! stop Well, you can't compare a woodpecker in intelligence with Mac "Kane! The level of intelligence of a woodpecker is differently higher! yes
              2. Gani
                Gani 8 October 2015 12: 20 New
                12
                Yes, this is a joke), someone decided to test the gray epaulettes, how quickly you can become a marshal seropogonnik
                1. Peterhof 73
                  Peterhof 73 8 October 2015 12: 54 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Gani
                  Yes, this is a joke), someone decided to test the gray epaulettes, how quickly you can become a marshal seropogonnik


                  I also thought that user McCain was just being ironic. And then the minuses fell on him. By the way, I have never seen here how the shoulder straps of a high rank "seropogonnik" look. If only for intimidation they laid out a look.
                  1. screw cutter
                    screw cutter 8 October 2015 13: 35 New
                    +3
                    Do not wait. This "Big Mac" is just for that and registered in order to make a mess and wash off once. Admin, what can be so easy to register at once? And even mail is not required?
                  2. Mikado
                    Mikado 8 October 2015 18: 21 New
                    0
                    It seems that such people simply do not live up to the "big gray shoulder straps with skulls" on our website))
                    1. Ivan_Ivanov
                      Ivan_Ivanov 8 October 2015 20: 52 New
                      16

                      Well, they started ...
              3. Genur
                Genur 8 October 2015 13: 13 New
                +4
                Dear ADMINISTS!
                It is necessary to publicly "manifest" this hawk ... Who is he? McCain?
                Yes, even under the Russian flag!
            2. V.ic
              V.ic 8 October 2015 11: 36 New
              22
              Quote: McCain
              Well, Russians. Have they used up all their ammunition? No pants left?

              Give your coordinates. The "package" will be delivered on time.
              1. Coconut Tima
                Coconut Tima 8 October 2015 11: 56 New
                55
                Today, the most popular Internet service is the line on Google Maps. Everyone diligently measures 1500 - 2600 km from the Russian seas and sadly scratches their heads
                1. Peterhof 73
                  Peterhof 73 8 October 2015 12: 41 New
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                  Quote: coconut tim
                  Today, the most popular Internet service is the line on Google Maps. Everyone diligently measures 1500 - 2600 km from the Russian seas and sadly scratches their heads
                  1. cucujamba
                    cucujamba 8 October 2015 19: 40 New
                    +3
                    And Shoigu with GDP knew what they liked fellow
                2. ewgen
                  ewgen 8 October 2015 13: 15 New
                  22
                  Well, at least geography tightened.
                  1. maxim1987
                    maxim1987 8 October 2015 15: 17 New
                    +1
                    by the way about geography

                    judging by the second photo, launches were made from the territorial waters of Azerbaijan or Iran. Or am I not understanding something?
                    1. GSH-18
                      GSH-18 8 October 2015 15: 33 New
                      +6
                      Quote: maximNNX
                      by the way about geography

                      judging by the second photo, launches were made from the territorial waters of Azerbaijan or Iran. Or am I not understanding something?

                      They said the same: From the territorial waters of the Russian Federation.
                      1. veksha50
                        veksha50 8 October 2015 16: 42 New
                        +2
                        Quote: GSH-18
                        They said the same: From the territorial waters of the Russian Federation.



                        But this is the art of diplomacy ...

                        As they say: The language was given to the diplomat in order to hide his thoughts and possible actions ...
                    2. veksha50
                      veksha50 8 October 2015 16: 41 New
                      +3
                      Quote: maximNNX
                      by the way about geography

                      judging by the second photo, launches were made from the territorial waters of Azerbaijan or Iran. Or am I not understanding something?



                      So in fact, it was implied so immediately ... Why complicate the combat mission when there is a common coalition with Iraq and Iran, and from Iranian waters this attack was simpler and more reliable ...

                      PS If it were otherwise, I would, by God, spit ...
                    3. cucujamba
                      cucujamba 8 October 2015 19: 43 New
                      0
                      Apparently, not "apparently", but you do not understand. The launch site is marked with a red dot. "I think so" recourse
                    4. Kunar
                      Kunar 10 October 2015 06: 21 New
                      0
                      From neutral waters))))))
              2. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 8 October 2015 12: 03 New
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                “We believe that the Russians are implementing the wrong strategy,” he said. “They still hit targets that don't exist.” We think this is a fundamental mistake. ”

                No need to learn Russian strategies! The Indians were still running on your continent, and at that time we were already applying our strategy - expanding our country.
                And we believe that Russia's support for the United States in the struggle for independence is our fundamental mistake! soldier
                1. NordUral
                  NordUral 9 October 2015 18: 54 New
                  +1
                  They didn’t think of kindness of soul. Yes, and about the treatment of the Indians then Russia did not know.
                2. Yarhann
                  Yarhann 10 October 2015 00: 44 New
                  0
                  probably a little wrong translation - They still hit the goals (past), which do not exist (the present), that is, a trivial misunderstanding with the times of translation from Aglitsky) - if translated in the sense, it will come out - They still hit the targets, they do not exist - that is he bet the cap - naturally, after the defeat of the target it does not exist - we agree with the cap))))
                3. Victor Demchenko
                  Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 17: 18 New
                  0
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  And we believe that Russia's support for the United States in the struggle for independence is our fundamental mistake!

                  I join! although ... if the British remained there to rule, it is not known how it would all end ... what
              3. Siberian
                Siberian 8 October 2015 12: 33 New
                10
                old bearded joke, children's, from the USSR
                Petka: Vasil Ivanovich, what do you think, how much does an atomic bomb cost?
                "I don't know, Petka, well, I think 5 thousand, no less."
                "Wow, what wealth is flying into our garden!"
                1. veksha50
                  veksha50 8 October 2015 16: 44 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Siberian
                  "Wow, what wealth is flying into our garden!"



                  Ugh !!!

                  Let's not be greedy and give this wealth to the USA ... They have problems with the economy, some debts ...
                2. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 10 October 2015 20: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Siberian
                  Wow what wealth

                  I pulled over the ocean!
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            5. AdekvatNICK
              AdekvatNICK 8 October 2015 12: 41 New
              +3
              haha? here you ha ha ha. Here you have instead of precision weapons.
              1. screw cutter
                screw cutter 8 October 2015 13: 40 New
                0
                And why do they need rubber boots? And HB gloves are not for war.
                1. SMikhalych
                  SMikhalych 8 October 2015 21: 49 New
                  +1
                  Quote: screw cutter
                  And why do they need rubber boots? And HB gloves are not for war.

                  To let them flow, and not to the ground (environmental protection). And x / b-kami will blot out wassat
                2. Rivares
                  Rivares 10 October 2015 17: 51 New
                  0
                  Quote: screw cutter
                  And why do they need rubber boots? And HB gloves are not for war.

                  To bury the heroes of the ATO in them))))
            6. Dan Slav
              Dan Slav 8 October 2015 12: 53 New
              +2
              Troll registered for the correct perception of the material.
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            8. Averias
              Averias 8 October 2015 13: 23 New
              10
              Quote: McCain
              Or did they save one rocket to shoot themselves?

              Believe me, that's enough for everyone.
              1. cucujamba
                cucujamba 8 October 2015 19: 47 New
                +1
                Afraid he won't be enough laughing In turn bitches of children wassat
            9. v1047883
              v1047883 8 October 2015 15: 00 New
              +3
              Saved one! Just for you !!!!
          2. kill the fascist
            kill the fascist 8 October 2015 11: 29 New
            24
            maybe normal Ukrainians do not read the censor and do not discuss it?
            to paraphrase Professor Preobrazhensky: "And - God forbid you - don't read the censor before lunch!"

            as far as the above comments are concerned, even the narrow-minded characters from the censor, although they never admit this, are well aware that for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR, they have profiled an industrially developed country, turned one of the most promising republics in the country of a serf servicing other people's geopolitical interests ... that’s spoiling bricks
            at any mention of Russian successes.
            1. Bresh
              Bresh 10 October 2015 16: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Kill the fascist
              as far as the above comments are concerned, even the narrow-minded characters from the censor, although they never admit this, are well aware that for more than 20 years after the collapse of the USSR, they have profiled an industrially developed country, turned one of the most promising republics in the country of a serf servicing other people's geopolitical interests ... that’s spoiling bricks
              at any mention of Russian successes.

              Well said!
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          4. PPD
            PPD 8 October 2015 11: 33 New
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            Quote: Darkmor

            3) There were shootings, but missiles do not fly so far, I read in pedagogy! 111

            It’s sad, but they don’t even know how to read Wikipedia. And there it is written in the table in brackets:
            (for missiles in export version) !! ?? fellow
            And a little higher: "According to a number of reports, the range of the 3M-14 is 2600 km [3]."
            And a little higher: "The characteristics of the export modification of the Caliber (Club) (E) rocket system are presented, the exact characteristics of the system are not publicly available."
            The moral is to explain, but what’s there, it’s just normal to talk to them, only spend time and nerves. Whatever we do good to them from the bottom of the soul, they’re still under the door nak ,,, yut. crying laughing
          5. Petrovich1952
            Petrovich1952 8 October 2015 11: 39 New
            +8
            I, by a sinful thing, sometimes think that we are not bombing those. There is a burning desire to get the coordinates and launch three things.
            1. Varyag_1973
              Varyag_1973 8 October 2015 12: 07 New
              +9
              Yes, no, three pieces will not be enough, but 63 just right, I think!

              Damn it survived, I would never have thought that I was so "kind"!
              1. cucujamba
                cucujamba 8 October 2015 19: 51 New
                0
                Has accumulated to see "good" wink rushing over the edge am
                1. Alexander_
                  Alexander_ 8 October 2015 20: 08 New
                  0
                  Missiles that hit exactly the intended target are not a pity :)
            2. veksha50
              veksha50 8 October 2015 16: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: Petrovich1952
              There is a burning desire to confuse the coordinates and run pieces three .



              What is so small ??? The plague and cholera are burned out with a hot iron radically, otherwise the infection will remain and will spread again ...
          6. Hell's Angel
            Hell's Angel 8 October 2015 12: 12 New
            11
            Check it out on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYhfUA81Kwo. I'm a "pot table"!
            1. Peterhof 73
              Peterhof 73 8 October 2015 13: 16 New
              +4
              Quote: angel of hell
              Check it out on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYhfUA81Kwo. I'm a "pot table"!

              Thank! I barely got out from under the table laughing! +
              1. cucujamba
                cucujamba 8 October 2015 19: 58 New
                +9
                The last call is the most correct laughing Boo ha ha
            2. Victor Demchenko
              Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 17: 30 New
              0
              looked, so what? in my opinion, the last comment when a man said ... We just mess up and everything is true. Is not it?...
          7. Rus2012
            Rus2012 8 October 2015 12: 31 New
            +6
            Quote: Darkmor
            I went to the censor.
            Some kind of sadomy is going on there. Can people really degrade to this state?

            ... there is a sober idea for the 3,14 endostan:
            Kaklov terbats to send to Wahhabis to wet Iraq! At least some good ... and disposal on distant shores.

            Toko can scatter ahead of time, it's not civilians to spread rot ...
            But if in the "penal battalion" mode and behind a detachment with machine guns, it may work ... laughing
          8. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 8 October 2015 13: 05 New
            +2
            And why be surprised, the degradation is complete, how can a person from the State Department send the 6th US fleet to the coast of Belarus.
          9. abrakadabre
            abrakadabre 8 October 2015 13: 33 New
            +5
            Do you think there are many knowledgeable people on the censor? Who will let them go there? They don't pay for knowledge. I'm not at all sure that among those whose comments are published in the Censor, there is a sufficient percentage of residents of Ukraine. Most likely, under a hundred of any emigrant scum on the salary and several Internet robots that generate new phrases from "suitable" comments. The task of real Ukrainians is not to write there, but to read.
          10. McCain2
            McCain2 8 October 2015 14: 06 New
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            I will be a stranger at the UN, the President of the United States, the Reindeer Protection Society. Yes, what about Putin himself !!!
            Why is minya getting banned? !! Where is the freedom of speech.
            And vaabsche, Vee still answered my torn anus !!!
            1. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 10 October 2015 20: 19 New
              +1
              Good debut!
          11. veksha50
            veksha50 8 October 2015 16: 37 New
            +1
            Quote: Darkmor
            Well, one TV cannot fool the population so much ... or maybe?



            Even Lenin talked about the great propaganda opportunities of the cinema ... YOU just replaced him now, and, scary, we didn’t go to the cinema every day, and the box zombies people every day, in every apartment ...

            "I, sinfully, sometimes think that we are not bombing those"...

            Not you alone think so ...
          12. kot28.ru
            kot28.ru 8 October 2015 16: 46 New
            +3
            And what a hohlosrach will be if the TU-22 makes a call with the launch of the BC what ? Russians go, where the stinking egg-laying hanging from an egg-no, is well-fed, then the partisans are fighting! soldier
          13. Kvazar
            Kvazar 8 October 2015 17: 02 New
            +3
            On the censor, everyone who has brains is immediately banned. +))) He cited an excerpt in the news about the anti-tank ditch and what it is (when they dug a ditch in 2014). They banyat there immediately for any deviation from the line of the party and government. Plus full-time trolls of the censor himself.
            Well, plus underage stupid people immediately put "spam" to hide the comment while the modern is sleeping +)))
            There have not been adequate for a long time)
          14. Mikado
            Mikado 8 October 2015 18: 18 New
            0
            Darkmore, judging by your quotes, write stoned office hamsters, nothing heavier than their own x .. in their hands did not hold, and shkolota. These clearly do not strive to fight for "nenka" in Donbass. And it's a pity (from the point of view of psychiatry), and not a damn thing about these poor people. All unfinished fights with Russia on Facebook.
          15. APASUS
            APASUS 8 October 2015 20: 07 New
            +6
            Quote: Darkmor
            I went to the censor.

            Specifically, there is nothing there at all, rather fleeting statements by American experts, diplomats or congressmen, and they cannot miss this on their own resources - a servile habit.
            And everything is as usual, one srach .............
          16. Skif83
            Skif83 10 October 2015 06: 33 New
            +1
            Yes, let them abide in their insanity.
            They (these "brothers") begin to understand something either when they are hung up on them, or when they fry their own ass.
            And the fact that Ukrainians are not to go to a fortuneteller!
            I remember that in the distant (already!) 1993 border between Russia and Ukraine there was a chance to work and live with my family in Yalta (such a pun!), My wife invited her sister (Russian) with her second husband, Ukrainians (they lived in Kiev) to us to relax. The benefit of the means (to us) and rental space allowed. But what is it about, this hlhliny snout, and then yielding to the need to yell:
            - You, come in large numbers, do not let us live, we took our places, we can manage without you .... blah blah blah.
            To which, in my opinion, it was reasonably stated:
            - We’ll see when we block your gas-oil.

            That was 23 years ago!
            Only about one thing I regret that I will not wipe it off ... l "brother-in-law" then!

            The whole point - I work in de jure Khokhlyatsk Crimea, I invite Khokhl to relax, in fact I have it at my expense, and I get an answer ...
            What has changed in the approaches? NOTHING!
            That then they wanted to live free then better than Russia and at the expense of Russia, what now.

            All this to the fact that no matter how much they lament, well, they are not brothers in fact.
            There is no need to strive for the unification of the outskirts, on the contrary, it is necessary to fragment and then annex the Russian lands with the Russian people.
            This Russia with its slurred diplomacy can not decide.
            In fact, you need to make it clear which lands are originally Russian, and let the rest fall in Europe!
            1. Sterlya
              Sterlya 10 October 2015 18: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Skif83
              All this to the fact that no matter how much they lament, well, they are not brothers in fact.
              There is no need to strive for the unification of the outskirts, on the contrary, it is necessary to fragment and then annex the Russian lands with the Russian people.
              This Russia with its slurred diplomacy can not decide.
              In fact, you need to make it clear which lands are originally Russian, and let the rest fall in Europe!

              I support at 100%. I thought I thought maybe only to me as a Tatar Ukrainians well, not at all brothers, quite the contrary
          17. Sterlya
            Sterlya 10 October 2015 18: 34 New
            +1
            Quote: Darkmor
            Well, one TV cannot fool the population so much ... or maybe?
            I, by sinful deed, sometimes think that we are not bombing those :)

            It turns out maybe, and rather, in their brain, before all these events, the worm brain was already sitting. laughing And to be in the Censor is hard, the faint-hearted cannot even go there. The feeling that you get into a society of the insane sad
          18. Krio
            Krio 11 October 2015 08: 51 New
            0
            They think badly, it is necessary this way: In honor of the leader’s birthday, 63 missiles were launched, BUT, only 26 reached the target, the rest fell because they cut, rollback, savages, etc. And the truth is, and a lie. Still, you must be able to lie wink
          19. 123_123
            123_123 11 October 2015 12: 39 New
            0
            Unfortunately, Ukrainians, led by emissaries of the black president, are a degenerate nation, with a small part of the remaining normal people, the rest are either pederasts who support European values ​​or frost-bitten Nazis fighting their own people in eastern Ukraine.
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        4. delvin-fil
          delvin-fil 8 October 2015 17: 49 New
          0
          ERZH is not asleep, their hell! am
      2. Serafim-k
        Serafim-k 8 October 2015 12: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        All means are good for propaganda. Lavrov and his subordinates will add work. Listen to fairy tales and refute them.

        I don’t think that our (proof) is that we are not camels .. someone will be interested in the West .. since we are in the East, so we will act according to the Eastern wisdom: - "The dog barks, and the caravan moves on!" drinks bully
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 8 October 2015 12: 16 New
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        All means are good for propaganda

        To the natural question: "and who are they" moderate "- tell us, show their faces, indicate where they live, give contacts to contact them", the kindergarten answer follows: "No! We will not give you intelligence information. You support the wrong people." ...
        Accordingly, our answer follows - "then we will kill those whom we, the Syrians, Iranians, and Iraqis, consider terrorists. And you NATO members are criminals and lawless people - no one invited you there and the UN Security Council decision on this matter, no!"

        In general, according to experts, there are no SSA (fled), as well as "moderate terrorists." After all, let's not consider those who killed not 10, but only 9 unarmed civilians as moderate.
        1. AdekvatNICK
          AdekvatNICK 8 October 2015 12: 44 New
          +2
          who are moderate? Yes please ((+21))

          http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/irina_ball/post342582961/
          nervous and pregnant do not watch.
      4. RUS96
        RUS96 8 October 2015 13: 21 New
        +8
        .......................
      5. go21zd45few
        go21zd45few 8 October 2015 19: 38 New
        +4
        I see no reason to make excuses, who are interested in letting them take their feet in their hands and run to Syria
        make sure visually where our missiles and bombs fall. Justifying in front of obscurantists, Russia is losing its face. After all, the coalition forces of the United States and NATO did not make excuses for the killing of civilians and children in Afghanistan, for the mass death of civilians
        in Iraq, so why should Russia make excuses? The answer is one dog barks the caravan is coming.
        The United States and NATO are dogs of war and the dog can’t cope with the bear.
      6. NordUral
        NordUral 9 October 2015 18: 50 New
        0
        Smart and pretty girl. This is not different psaki.
      7. gladcu2
        gladcu2 9 October 2015 18: 50 New
        0
        Put the cons, and I will say.

        Tired of hearing worldwide crying and accusations of lying partners.

        If there are complaints at the state level, let Lavrov and Churkin crush with notes of protest and litigation.

        And to become like this should fit in one paragraph.

        Some newspaper, some article. This author. Lies at the state level. Submitted to court to defend honor and dignity.

        That's enough.
      8. ankir13
        ankir13 9 October 2015 21: 17 New
        0
        Yes, the Felgenhauer is certainly an interesting person, but I have never heard such an affiliate with al-Qaeda in my life! I have the honor to not understand. I would like their simple destruction. Thank you Russia!
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 October 2015 10: 24 New
      +8
      Quote: Samara-58
      "FIRED" ... Hmm, I wonder what kind of gun is it? ..

      The Caliber system, with Buyanov. I think and the TU-160 worked on ISIS with the new X-101. Moreover, we install the Caliber on SMALL ships that receive the "FAR ARM" in the form of these complexes. Or, through three states.
      1. hedgehog in the fog
        hedgehog in the fog 8 October 2015 10: 33 New
        +8
        Americans that they want and do, we also have the right to do what we consider necessary, only we, unlike them, are also responsible for what we do good
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 9 October 2015 18: 59 New
          0
          hedgehog in the fog

          The problem is that you do not have the right. And even more so the opportunity.

          I will explain

          Capitalism is a system built on lies.
          You cannot lie forever. It must be true for the lie to work effectively. But the problem is that the truth-seeker will suffer, and not being a fool, he must be able to stand up for himself.

          The capitalists have already exhausted the entire limit of lies. Came to the crisis. And now the question is whether to bend the true lovers or not.

          Since they just need to constantly bend someone to be like them in type and likeness, already lost. For only the truth in this case creates allies, and therefore an advantage.
      2. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 8 October 2015 10: 38 New
        15
        In the "democratic" media the howl began from the "dog booths" ... Well, everything is fine ... As the saying goes, "And yet they fly and amaze ..." hi
        1. Bombardier
          Bombardier 8 October 2015 10: 52 New
          +2
          What equip Russian aircraft in Syria (as a reference):
          http://strajj.livejournal.com/3297251.html
      3. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 8 October 2015 11: 07 New
        -8
        26 missiles - an international step rather than a military one. Rushing into pickups worth 1 million rubles with missiles worth several tens of millions is irrational. But it is better to conduct serious tests on the same Kura - there, observation posts and missile guidance are monitored. With ISIS, the FAB is quite enough - correctable and free fall. Moreover, the shelf life of Khrushchev’s ammunition is still approaching its physical end.
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 8 October 2015 11: 22 New
          10
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          Rushing into pickups worth 1 million rubles with missiles worth several tens of millions is irrational.

          In the news and in the Shoigu report to Putin, there was no talk about pickups. Listen carefully and do not misinterpret.
        2. Kalmar
          Kalmar 8 October 2015 11: 41 New
          -15
          26 missiles - an international step rather than a military one

          It's clear business. ISIS has no clear air defense, so there is simply no real need to use long-range missile systems. Obviously, the goal was to rattle weapons, to show everyone that we can.
          1. vitaliy707
            vitaliy707 8 October 2015 11: 57 New
            +7
            and that’s good, a missile launched by ISIS crashed into NATO.
            1. Peterhof 73
              Peterhof 73 8 October 2015 22: 37 New
              +7
              Quote: vitaliy707
              and that’s good, a missile launched by ISIS fell into NATO.


              So it was a blow to NATO, the United States. A blow to their pride, conceit and exclusivity. The most superficial analysis of the technical side of what happened, clearly showed amers that now they are vulnerable in ANY point not only in Europe or the Middle East, but in the WHOLE planet (I am not exaggerating). Circles with a radius of 2000 km. (Zone of fire with "Caliber") can now be deployed around the entire ball. These are not only ships, submarines and ground objects. These are containers (civilian ships), long-range trucks, port container warehouses, etc. Most of all, the Americans believed in cruise missiles. (Their own). Now they believed in the Russians (they are everywhere). You didn't notice this strange silence from there .........
              1. Kalmar
                Kalmar 8 October 2015 23: 57 New
                -3
                The most superficial analysis of the technical side of what happened, clearly showed amers that now they are vulnerable in ANY point not only in Europe or the Middle East, but in the WHOLE planet (I am not exaggerating). Circles with a radius of 2000 km. (Zone of fire with "Caliber") can now be deployed around the entire ball.

                Very, very superficial - yes, it would. But if in more detail, then:
                1. 2000km is a bust, 1500 is somehow closer to the truth, well, not the point;
                2. the air defense factor is not taken into account: ISIS does not have it, the amers have a wide assortment;
                3. Circles are not easy to unfold: how many "Caliber" carriers do we have that are actually capable of moving around the globe?

                In general, the tension in the United States and Europe, of course, has increased considerably, but it is still not worth dramatizing. And do not forget, by the way, that the shtatovtsev theirs "Tomahawks" are also in abundance.
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 9 October 2015 20: 22 New
            0
            Kalmar

            The goal of rattling weapons worthy of dozens of times spent money.

            If the opponents do not show their capabilities, then the reverse side may seem that someone is weak and can be fucked. And since the Americans do everything right only from the tenth attempt, it is necessary to make sure that they refuse already from the first.
            1. Kalmar
              Kalmar 10 October 2015 01: 24 New
              +2
              The goal of rattling weapons worthy of dozens of times spent money.

              I don't mind. They tested new weapons in practice, demonstrated their capabilities to Western partners, people gained new experience. When I said "shake," I only emphasized that military there was no need to use precisely these missiles: aviation could have managed on its own. But the above goals are also quite worthy.

              Z.Y. And the people went nervous here: just stick the unsuccessful word, immediately drown in the minuses)
          3. Havoc
            Havoc 10 October 2015 23: 22 New
            0
            Quote: Kalmar
            26 missiles - an international step rather than a military one

            It's clear business. ISIS has no clear air defense, so there is simply no real need to use long-range missile systems. Obviously, the goal was to rattle weapons, to show everyone that we can.

            And even so, now both NATO and the US will think ten times.
        3. Predator
          Predator 8 October 2015 14: 17 New
          +7
          If I am not mistaken, "Caliber" was put into service in 2007-2009. The term of technical storage expires, than it is better to alter or dispose of them with them.
          1. Kalmar
            Kalmar 10 October 2015 22: 28 New
            0
            "Caliber" was put into service in 2007-2009. The period of technical storage expires ...

            "Adopted" and "produced" are still different things. And then, here is a painfully crucial moment - the first "public" application, to launch any old stuff at the end of its expiration date. So, I think these particular missiles were still relatively fresh.
      4. Riv
        Riv 8 October 2015 11: 28 New
        +6
        ... And on occasion, this boat can swim into the river. Incidentally, even to Moscow will be able to swim further north. Somewhere from Ladoga, hells in Berlin - it will not seem enough.
        And, if desired, he can also get to the Black Sea.
        1. Peterhof 73
          Peterhof 73 8 October 2015 22: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Riv
          ... And on occasion, this boat can swim into the river. Incidentally, even to Moscow will be able to swim further north. Somewhere from Ladoga, hells in Berlin - it will not seem enough.
          And, if desired, he can also get to the Black Sea.


          What for? "Caliber" is in all fleets. And in the Baltic there is no exception. In addition, do not forget about ordinary-looking containers.
    3. Good me
      Good me 8 October 2015 10: 32 New
      0
      "Russia fired ..."


      Quote: Samara-58
      "FIRED" ... Hmm, I wonder what kind of gun is it? ..



      Scientists puzzled by a new photo of the North Pole of the Moon what

      The European Space Agency has published a new photo of the north pole of the moon. The image shows black craters that puzzled scientists.
      One version of the researchers is that the craters are deep craters, at the bottom of which can be frozen water.
      http://tech.obozrevatel.com/science/02369-uchenyih-ozadachilo-novoe-foto-severno


      go-polyusa-lunyi.htm
      1. ROD VDVshny
        ROD VDVshny 8 October 2015 10: 55 New
        11
        Note. The official video MO. At 00:57 00:59 in the north-eastern part of the Caspian there is a little dot and an inscription TU - 160.
        Obviously, just in case, tesezet - "the roof flies", possibly armed for the present, if suddenly some of the "partners" have brains lol

        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 8 October 2015 13: 38 New
          +3
          You look at the video for a volley - just Operation Hippo smile
          By analogy with the famous "Behemoth"
        2. Oberon_13
          Oberon_13 9 October 2015 13: 14 New
          0
          Somewhere at 57-58 seconds, the presence of the Tu-160 is clearly visible. For the light elves a little hint?
        3. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 18: 16 New
          +1
          and then a video was added to the topic about the passage of these very "rusty missiles" through the territory of Iran and Iraq ... You know, guys, but sooooo long ago I had NO REASON TO BE Proud of MY COUNTRY! NOW IT IS!!!!! good drinks
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 October 2015 11: 21 New
        18
        Nothing new, absolutely nothing. Old Anglo-Saxon nonsense about the evil Mother Russia. winked
        And what Fox News said:
        C'mon, can not be.!?laughing But it was enough to break the parity of tomahawks.wink

        Even the liberals are disheartened ... winked
      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 9 October 2015 20: 52 New
        0
        Kind.

        Do not just hope that aliens will come and help clean the "Augean Stables".
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    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 October 2015 10: 28 New
      10
      Quote: Samara-58
      "SHOOTED ..." I wonder what kind of gun is it for 1500 km. HITS ?!

      Disable CAPS!
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 8 October 2015 11: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        CAPS!

        This is his Mania Grandiosa.
  4. Engineer
    Engineer 8 October 2015 10: 21 New
    +5
    Sixth topic about rocket launches today)
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 8 October 2015 10: 27 New
      17
      For a long time there were no such reasons for pride in our country!
      I feel, this is only the beginning of some more grandiose chucher. And there will be more surprises :)
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 October 2015 11: 25 New
        +5
        Quote: DarkOFF
        And there will be more surprises :)

        Ugh, I knew that ... I would have to uncover the death star!repeat
  5. solvi
    solvi 8 October 2015 10: 22 New
    +6
    “More than 90% of the blows that we have observed so far were not delivered against IG
    These bloodthirsty "democrats" are jack of all trades. And calculate the percentages, and bomb the hospital.
  6. ESS46045
    ESS46045 8 October 2015 10: 24 New
    +3
    As always, an incredible lie.
  7. Maksus
    Maksus 8 October 2015 10: 25 New
    +4
    Or maybe we covered the hospital in Kunduz, missed, but the Russians don’t know how to use cruise missiles ... It could also be a good heading.
  8. edge
    edge 8 October 2015 10: 25 New
    0
    whoever doubts, it is necessary to draw attention to the publication, to crowd the crowd, wave the heights and more or less adequately convey to the masses, but so that would not attract ....
  9. lexx2038
    lexx2038 8 October 2015 10: 26 New
    18
    That is why these Pavel Evgenievich Felgenhauers live here with us, eat deliciously and softly sleep at our expense? Why doesn’t he walk on bridges? Maybe then at the entrance?
  10. Arktidianets
    Arktidianets 8 October 2015 10: 26 New
    +6
    Pavel Evgenievich Felgenhauer can turn his libel into a tube and put it in a famous place
    1. Russian German
      Russian German 8 October 2015 10: 58 New
      15
      I agree with you because: "Pavel Evgenievich Felgenhauer (December 6, 1951, Moscow) - Russian biologist, journalist, military observer.
      Biologist by education, graduate of the Faculty of Biology of Moscow State University (1975), candidate of sciences (1987). As a researcher at the Institute of Developmental Biology of the USSR Academy of Sciences, he was engaged in molecular biology. After the collapse of the USSR, he went into journalism. "- Wikipedia.
      Order to the gynecologist of the highest rank in the studio!
      1. kit-kat
        kit-kat 8 October 2015 11: 50 New
        +2
        It was also necessary to throw off the address)).
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 18: 26 New
        +1
        from a very old joke repeat ... the dialogue between the patient and the doctor: that you are a doctor, this is the genital gap!
        doctor:
        "If I, when I was a carpenter, left such cracks in the floors, my clients would break their legs to hell!" lol
    2. kepmor
      kepmor 8 October 2015 12: 02 New
      +3
      It would be better if he packed his suitcase, darted to his historical homeland and NO MORE TO RUSSIA!
  11. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 8 October 2015 10: 27 New
    +4
    Kavno boils and pours over the edge, splashing everything around with his stink. That's what they do - they boil this substance and water it all over the world through their media and at the same time they say that the Russians are to blame, and we are kind and do not want this. Themselves flawed and their press is the same ...
  12. znorick
    znorick 8 October 2015 10: 27 New
    +3
    What difference does it make of what is written over the hill, and even more so who reads it, and what it will think after reading it. We are unlikely to have a serious impact on this, and is it worth it? Let them think what they want - this will not save them from harsh reality: hundreds of thousands of refugees outside the windows and economic problems. Russia is now working on a specific result, and the PR of domestic weapons and the capabilities of the Armed Forces in this process is a side effect, albeit a very pleasant one.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 8 October 2015 10: 33 New
      62
      Quote: znorick
      What difference does it make of what is written over the hill, and even more so who reads it, and what it will think after reading it. We are unlikely to have a major impact on this.

      True, here is a reaction to articles from the Daily Mail.
      1. Putin's guys are already coming, you bastards! It is a powerful army led by a strong leader. Not like our spineless politicians (567 for, 16 against).
      2. Vile vile barbarian animals ... I hope this ISIS will be swept away from the face of the planet! (367 in favor, 2 against)
      3. Cowards, they hide under masks! Not men, never. (345 in favor, 5 against).
      4. Nothing, nothing, there is already Putin on the way, he is already following their souls (317 "for", 3 "against").
      5. Faster, Russia, deal with them, beat these cockroaches (250 "for", 3 "against").


      "Horrifying 'proof' Russians ARE bombing civilians in Syria: Tragedy of the boy, three, hit by huge shard of shrapnel lodged in forehead after airstrike)



      1. It is striking: when Britain or the United States is hit by civilians, you will not find a single article about it (2780 "for", 88 "against").
      2. Awful. Well, now show me pictures of what the United States and Great Britain have done over the past 12 years with civilians. It works both ways (2037 "for", 47 "against").
      3. And the Americans bombed the hospital. Side sacrifices (1507 for, 28 against).
      4. Do you really think that non-Russian bombs do the same? Look at the NATO / US hospital bombing this weekend (1233 pro, 18 con).
      5. Why do you never show pictures of the roughly 1 million innocent people that "we" killed in Iraq? (969 in favor, 30 against).


      It is called "Russia launches CRUISE MISSILES 'at ISIS' from warships 900 miles away as Syrian ground troops begin major offensive supported by Putin's bombers).

      1. Great news. Great job, Russia. You disgraced Britain and the United States (4284 in favor, 89 against).
      2. Come on, Vlad, go ahead, Russia. Run them one from me from Britain. BRAVO (2574 in favor, 50 against).
      3. Say whatever you like about Putin. But the guy has balls. Yes, not the ones that Obama plays golf! The Russians took and disgraced the entire West! NATO is no longer worth anything. Great job, Vlad. And I am writing this from preconceived Poland! (2281 in favor, 42 against).
      4. Well, now it's time for Corbin to take decisive steps. He is about to invite IS to another tea party with cookies (1816 in favor, 103 against).
      5. It was Russia's turn to show the world a little shock and awe. Let's say protect the legitimate government and infrastructure of a country. At the same time, preparing for the first round of secular, free from Western influence, elections (1439 in favor, 33 against).

      We do not need much, just tell the truth!
      1. Good me
        Good me 8 October 2015 10: 52 New
        13
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        1. Putin's guys are already coming, you bastards! It is a powerful army led by a strong leader. Not like our spineless politicians (567 for, 16 against).


        Soldier of failure: Tim Kerby spent a week as a private in the Russian army
        07.10.2015, 14: 51
        An American in the Russian army: what prejudices do foreigners have about the armed forces of the Russian Federation and what does the modern Russian army really represent? RT-born RT columnist Tim Kerby spent a week in the Russian Navy and shares his impressions on his blog.

        Full debacle: American in the Russian Navy

        Sour smoke hangs in the air. Automatic queues are heard. One of the running soldiers falls: he did not appreciate the height of the pipe that had to be jumped over. His 100-kilogram fat body, dressed in a heavy body armor, flops to the ground, his face buries in the sand. He feels pain in his left leg. This soldier is me. The foreign "soldier of failure", who was given the opportunity to serve in the Russian Navy - as a participant in the reality show.
        You probably think that advertising of contract service in the army will follow? Type: “If a stupid American can serve in the army, then why are you smart Russians slowing down ?! Sign the contract today! ”No, there will be no such advertising. I could not serve with dignity, so I won’t say that it’s fun and everyone can handle it. But I'm ready to talk about my experience.
        I was given the opportunity to become the only American (who also cannot sail) at the Russian Navy only because I am the host of the radio program that organized the Polite People: Velvet Season project. This project is annually (and its name is changed every year, in 2014 it was called “Stillavin Battery”) sends to the army of six already served earlier and six never served guys. They must show the whole country that in a very short time they can become real soldiers.
        Of course, in this program I was the worst of all, and I am ashamed of myself. However, this shameful week in the army gave me some ground for thought. And it allowed to adjust its attitude to military service: some myths were debunked, and some ideas were confirmed.
        On the last day of my stay in the unit, almost all Russian soldiers asked me a question: “What is your impression of the army? What do you think of military service now, after your army experience? ”The answer is quite simple - the army acts as a well-functioning mechanism, but I’m absolutely incompatible with it. But this is a very short answer. And if the soldiers of my unit want to receive a detailed report from me, then, apparently, I should submit a list of my expectations and tell me what I encountered in reality.


        Full original RT news in Russian:
        https://russian.rt.com/article/121685
        1. Riv
          Riv 8 October 2015 11: 40 New
          +3
          I read, laughed. This dude is even more unsuitable for the Soviet Army, and even in the Red they would have made a scarecrow out of him on the nightstand.
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        3. Lyapis
          Lyapis 8 October 2015 12: 03 New
          +5
          Something this article with Tim Kirby, somehow misinterpreted. For a complete understanding of what is happening there, I would advise you to listen / watch the recordings of the corresponding show by Sergei Stillavin on the Mayak radio (this is at least http://army.radiomayak.ru/). It's more interesting and more fun there.
      2. Mareman Vasilich
        Mareman Vasilich 8 October 2015 11: 21 New
        +6
        But it was extremely entertaining, comrade. Great, five plus.
      3. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 8 October 2015 14: 49 New
        0
        But it pleases! Thank you for message!
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  14. dojjdik
    dojjdik 8 October 2015 10: 29 New
    +2
    Well, if the Israeli submariners boasted of their unexpected shots at the territory of Syria, now Benya thinks how could we not have finished with the Caspian Sea, because there are no Jewish submarines there; we can send their "invincible pilots" to Kaspflot, the chief Jew thinks
  15. Meh-forester
    Meh-forester 8 October 2015 10: 30 New
    +3
    US Secretary of Defense Ash Carter spoke. According to him, which leads the television and radio company, the coalition forces leading the fight against terrorists in Syria, will not cooperate with Russia. “We believe that the Russians are implementing the wrong strategy,” he said. - They still hit targets that don't exist. We think this is a fundamental mistake. ”
    The charges are very serious. So, as they used to say: "What is your evidence?"
    In general, NATO and the United States in particular, how the same must be explained why, and most importantly HOW it turns out that Russia, in such a short period of time, has already managed to do so much in terms of combating IS, and why it doesn’t work for them
  16. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 8 October 2015 10: 31 New
    +4
    "Felgenhauer" This is human. How should you cook it? Fry, cut or plant?
    1. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 8 October 2015 10: 36 New
      12
      frown ...
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 8 October 2015 13: 45 New
      +2
      Dry on a wooden skewer.
      1. Bijo
        Bijo 8 October 2015 21: 05 New
        0
        Physicians for Human Rights - Who are these weirdos starting with the letter "m"?
  17. Sargaras
    Sargaras 8 October 2015 10: 34 New
    +2
    There is propaganda, but there is counter-propaganda. Our deeds need to be reported louder and more beautifully, especially over the hill. And it would be really nice to use the Western media for this. Toss them a couple of lemons of green American paper, our country will not go down poorly, and they themselves will do everything in the best possible way.
    1. max702
      max702 8 October 2015 10: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Sargaras
      . Throw them a couple of lemons of green American paper, our country will not be much poorer, and they themselves will do everything in the best possible way

      But this is where TAM is very well watched, why do you think the bourgeois have virtually no cash? Namely, for MONEY CONTROL .. This is not our country with the dominance of non-profit organizations (we just started to deal with it) The electronic system is easily tracked, and after that all means are used, for example, after the scam on September 11, a lot of interesting laws were passed. So this front will be very difficult to promote, RT is a powerful step in this direction, but there are already full-scale votes about banning it, so you need to allocate funds for these actions, make your own TV channels, servers, radio broadcasts and much more .. There will be a beautiful picture is an interesting presentation and then there are chances .. And thank God, work is being done in this direction, coverage of the operation in Syria confirms this.
  18. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 8 October 2015 10: 35 New
    +1
    “More than 90% of the blows we have seen so far were not against IG or terrorists affiliated with al-Qaeda.” They were largely directed against opposition groups.
    And when the journalist asked him a question at briefings, do you know where the ISIS bases are located? You can share info with Russians! The pedal horse immediately moved off -type we have no data ...!
  19. Alex_59
    Alex_59 8 October 2015 10: 36 New
    +4
    They know so precisely who dies under our bombs, that they have definitely established that only 2 of 57 attacks fell on ISIS. So, since they have such accurate data, they have excellent intelligence. And here comes the question - since you know exactly where a bearded man is sitting, why can't you bomb any of ISIS yourself? Why have you at least those 2 facility where exactly ISIS sat yourself did not roll so far?
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 8 October 2015 12: 18 New
      +1
      My friends! Stop paying so much attention to amers, these are the condoms used, well, what can you do! They themselves do not know how to fight, so the successes of ours do not give them peace! In a word, GAVNYUKI!
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  21. father nikon
    father nikon 8 October 2015 10: 41 New
    17
    The pilot of the Russian fighter jet (Muslim) addresses Allah: "O Almighty, I have the opposition camp and the ISIS camp at my gunpoint, who should I send to you?"
    Answer: "Send both, I will deal with them myself"
  22. Orlenok ILLI4A
    Orlenok ILLI4A 8 October 2015 10: 42 New
    +6
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: znorick
    What difference does it make of what is written over the hill, and even more so who reads it, and what it will think after reading it. We are unlikely to have a major impact on this.

    True, here is a reaction to articles from the Daily Mail.
    1. Putin's guys are already coming, you bastards! It is a powerful army led by a strong leader. Not like our spineless politicians (567 for, 16 against).
    2. Vile vile barbarian animals ... I hope this ISIS will be swept away from the face of the planet! (367 in favor, 2 against)
    3. Cowards, they hide under masks! Not men, never. (345 in favor, 5 against).
    4. Nothing, nothing, there is already Putin on the way, he is already following their souls (317 "for", 3 "against").
    5. Faster, Russia, deal with them, beat these cockroaches (250 "for", 3 "against").


    "Horrifying 'proof' Russians ARE bombing civilians in Syria: Tragedy of the boy, three, hit by huge shard of shrapnel lodged in forehead after airstrike)



    1. It is striking: when Britain or the United States is hit by civilians, you will not find a single article about it (2780 "for", 88 "against").
    2. Awful. Well, now show me pictures of what the United States and Great Britain have done over the past 12 years with civilians. It works both ways (2037 "for", 47 "against").
    3. And the Americans bombed the hospital. Side sacrifices (1507 for, 28 against).
    4. Do you really think that non-Russian bombs do the same? Look at the NATO / US hospital bombing this weekend (1233 pro, 18 con).
    5. Why do you never show pictures of the roughly 1 million innocent people that "we" killed in Iraq? (969 in favor, 30 against).


    It is called "Russia launches CRUISE MISSILES 'at ISIS' from warships 900 miles away as Syrian ground troops begin major offensive supported by Putin's bombers).

    1. Great news. Great job, Russia. You disgraced Britain and the United States (4284 in favor, 89 against).
    2. Come on, Vlad, go ahead, Russia. Run them one from me from Britain. BRAVO (2574 in favor, 50 against).
    3. Say whatever you like about Putin. But the guy has balls. Yes, not the ones that Obama plays golf! The Russians took and disgraced the entire West! NATO is no longer worth anything. Great job, Vlad. And I am writing this from preconceived Poland! (2281 in favor, 42 against).
    4. Well, now it's time for Corbin to take decisive steps. He is about to invite IS to another tea party with cookies (1816 in favor, 103 against).
    5. It was Russia's turn to show the world a little shock and awe. Let's say protect the legitimate government and infrastructure of a country. At the same time, preparing for the first round of secular, free from Western influence, elections (1439 in favor, 33 against).

    We do not need much, just tell the truth!

    "Brother" Danila is right - power is in truth.
  23. igorka357
    igorka357 8 October 2015 10: 43 New
    +3
    When a friend said that he wanted to go to the UAE, I advised him not to do this, saying that we would bomb them soon ... that day began to accelerate our approach by leaps and bounds, now the whole world knows that we can send our armed forces anywhere, and our own continent .. hmm ... it’s our continent, we shoot from and to ...
  24. DMoroz
    DMoroz 8 October 2015 10: 44 New
    +2
    Yes, the usual practice of mattress covers is to make black out of white and cram into the average man's brain. Moreover, according to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, at such a range, the spread of missile hits was only 3 m. This is a disaster for them.

    ... "Russia is probably trying to 'demonstrate' that it has full military right to use funds from the arsenal of the 'superpower' ..."
    1. grandson of the hero
      grandson of the hero 8 October 2015 11: 16 New
      0
      Do you remember how you missed the country?
      And here are three meters !!! I think this is still a sighting and a set of coordinates. The next launch is the accuracy of the table tray.
  25. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 8 October 2015 10: 47 New
    +3
    It’s not yet the US officials have not looked ahead: their strongest side - invulnerability from the sea can now become their weakness. I'm not talking about an open clash - the hypothetical threat of the appearance in the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean of 2-3 ships of the Russian Navy, which can completely cover the entire territory of the United States, will cause hysteria and an unrestrained rip of fart. After all, most of them live just by the oceans. Remember "rockets in Cuba"? What did it lead to? And here Cuba is not needed either.
  26. Crucian
    Crucian 8 October 2015 10: 48 New
    +5
    If in this way they want to stop Russia in the fight against terror, then:
    The red flaky stump you all for the collar in a cast-iron design from the Soviet government, so that the gateway does not get dirty and the head does not dangle! (c) Gene Janissary
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 18: 36 New
      0
      No, of course, humor is soldierly and voluminous, BUT it’s just not feed the horse, well, partners of humor will not understand!
  27. engineer74
    engineer74 8 October 2015 10: 49 New
    20
    I am aware that miles and miles are mixed up! smile
    1. pofigisst74
      pofigisst74 8 October 2015 11: 03 New
      +6
      Seine now need to demolish the fence. Sarcophagus build.
    2. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat 8 October 2015 15: 09 New
      +1
      I wonder how they were tracked by air defense, and were they even tracked at all, or didn’t our people even ask Iran and Iraq? :)
  28. pia
    pia 8 October 2015 10: 49 New
    25
    In the subject of a joke.
    Elysian Fields. At the cafe is Armata. Two Russian tankers in a cafe are drinking coffee with cognac.
    - And yet, it is a pity that we lost in the information war.
  29. Dimy4
    Dimy4 8 October 2015 10: 52 New
    +3
    The Secretary of Defense Ash Carter spoke.

    I read something at first sight "American monster of defense". Or maybe the truth?
    1. Alexander_
      Alexander_ 8 October 2015 20: 13 New
      0
      Probably quite a few staff instructors came under high-precision distribution.
  30. engineer74
    engineer74 8 October 2015 10: 56 New
    +2
    Actually, nothing good! I want to be mistaken, but the West will not forgive us for such a splash, and in an exemplary manner will shower some country with "Axes", before the end of the year, as usual, stupidly and bloody!
    IMHO
    PS EMNIP, the airspace of Iraq is controlled by US AF, then this plop came out in the box! No wonder the NORAD chef woke up! wink
  31. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 8 October 2015 10: 58 New
    0
    because in that case freedom of speech will suffer
    when freedom employees retire, they begin to tell the truth, like those retired generals.
  32. pofigisst74
    pofigisst74 8 October 2015 11: 02 New
    +8
    Better is the headline "Nobel Peace Prize Winner Obama Bombed Another Nobel Peace Prize Winner" Doctors Without Borders " lol
  33. Zymran
    Zymran 8 October 2015 11: 04 New
    -7
    People, how do you explain the fact that the declared range of missiles Caliber is -300 km, and the target was hit at a distance of 1500 km?
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 8 October 2015 11: 14 New
      +7
      People, how do you explain the fact that the declared range of missiles Caliber is -300 km, and the target was hit at a distance of 1500 km?

      Easy: Caliber is a whole family of missiles. There are export modifications for which the launch range is limited to 300 km. There are anti-ship missiles that seem to fly a little further (they were called 375 km). There is a surface-to-surface version, a kind of analogue of the Tomahawk, which flies at long distances (1500+ km).
      1. father nikon
        father nikon 8 October 2015 11: 49 New
        +3
        Quote: Kalmar
        People, how do you explain the fact that the declared range of missiles Caliber is -300 km, and the target was hit at a distance of 1500 km?

        Easy: Caliber is a whole family of missiles. There are export modifications for which the launch range is limited to 300 km. There are anti-ship missiles that seem to fly a little further (they were called 375 km). There is a surface-to-surface version, a kind of analogue of the Tomahawk, which flies at long distances (1500+ km).

        Well, mine, when people learn to read carefully: TTX of 3M-54, 3M-541 and 3M-14 missiles are classified information and are not publicly available. According to a number of reports, the 3M-14 range is 2600 km. It is written here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Caliber_ (winged_rocks). And what are you talking about (300km) - these are export options wink
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 8 October 2015 12: 07 New
          0
          Well, mine, when people learn to read carefully: TTX of 3M-54, 3M-541 and 3M-14 missiles are classified information and are not publicly available. According to a number of reports, the 3M-14 range is 2600 km. It is written here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Caliber_ (winged_rocks). And what are you talking about (300km) - these are export options

          Did you read my post before minus? I wrote in Russian that 300km is an export version. For versions for internal use, the range is yes, it is not known for sure, there are only speculations and guesses.
          1. Zymran
            Zymran 8 October 2015 12: 57 New
            0
            Thank. It seemed doubtful to me that the export and native versions had a difference in range of 5 times. But if it comes to

            surface-to-surface version of the Tomahawk


            Then everything becomes clear.
            1. anti-Semite
              anti-Semite 8 October 2015 15: 58 New
              +2
              for the Iskander complex, depending on the type of missile, the range can reach 2000 km in the Iskander variant k, k means a cruise missile
            2. yehat
              yehat 10 October 2015 01: 41 New
              0
              you don’t understand the hustle and bustle of Americans: the tomahawk does not fly as far as the demonstrated caliber and the tomahawks are released mainly with a miserable guidance system via GPS, and our missiles come with full-fledged inertial guidance systems. Knowing only these 2 facts, we can understand the anxiety of the Americans, because The Russian Federation has demonstrated a number of advantages in this poverty of missile weapons.

              ps Americans, in order to catch up and overtake in air defense missiles, turned off funding for the development of other types of missiles.
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 8 October 2015 14: 10 New
      +5
      Just as they once joked in KVN:
      "- What does the message in the press mean: a nuclear test explosion with a yield of 20 to 150 kilotons was carried out?
      - Well, this ... We thought twenty, but it will go bang! "
      smile
    3. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 10 October 2015 18: 38 New
      0
      oh, tired of explaining: 300 km is an option for EXPORT!
  34. Kalmar
    Kalmar 8 October 2015 11: 09 New
    0
    more than 300 attacks on medical facilities and the deaths of 670 medical personnel have been “documented” since the outbreak of the civil war, with “90 percent of them linked to Syrian government forces.”

    It is easy. Syrian warriors respect scorched earth tactics very, very much respected, so it is quite possible that ordinary local doctors have repeatedly come under the distribution.

    Russians support Assad and strike not at ISIS terrorists, but at "moderate opposition." Syrians from Assad’s army are now attacking the same opposition

    In general, this option is not excluded. In the Syrian conflict, several parties are tied at once, and figs there figure out who are terrorists and who is just the opposition. Moreover, these two specialties are perfectly combined. I’m silent about the fact that the Syrian official authorities themselves supported (and it seems even still) Hezbollah and other dubious offices. In general, it feels like you can bomb anyone - you will still hit a terrorist)

    US-led coalition forces not cooperating with Russia

    Actually, why should they? Syria is big, everyone can find where to leave missiles with bombs :)

    not Assad and his “regime” at all, but a “moderate opposition”, striving for a “better”, should “become part of Syria’s future”

    Well, here it is clear: everyone wants the region to have "their" person in charge. True, it is doubtful about us - Assad is strongly "ours", or is he simply creeping under the one who is more profitable at the moment?

    Syria faces a "terrible bloody massacre", the result of which will be "tens of thousands" of dead

    But this, alas, is most likely true.
    1. yehat
      yehat 10 October 2015 01: 43 New
      0
      in a civil war there are no purely casualties.
  35. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 8 October 2015 11: 12 New
    +6
    not Assad and his “regime” at all, but a “moderate opposition”, striving for a “better”, should “become part of the future of Syria”;

    So the phrase from G. Danelia's comedy "Kin-Dza-Dza"
  36. BOB044
    BOB044 8 October 2015 11: 13 New
    +4
    They don’t like that Russia got up from its knees and squared its shoulders after the reign of drunk Yeltsin. How do you want them to gobble up Russia and does not come out. They are afraid they should be.
    1. Sergey-8848
      Sergey-8848 10 October 2015 19: 12 New
      0
      About getting up from your knees - somehow wrong. When was that? Shrug straighten, with a sigh, yes.
  37. okroshka79
    okroshka79 8 October 2015 11: 17 New
    0
    Russian "Calibers" over Kurdistan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kWlxZNO8ZY
  38. Dixismr
    Dixismr 8 October 2015 11: 29 New
    +2
    After such a convincing demonstration of Russia's shock capabilities, it seems to me that the third world is postponed indefinitely. In my opinion, the West did not sign up for such a distribution.
  39. Gray 43
    Gray 43 8 October 2015 11: 30 New
    +1
    Now, any missile attack will be hung on us, military targets, which means the West, and peaceful objects, by any Russia, every Psaka knows in his office
  40. okroshka79
    okroshka79 8 October 2015 11: 42 New
    +3
    As far as I remember, Pavel Evgenievich Felgenhauer, positioning himself as an independent military analyst, is either a botanist or a biologist by profession. He did not serve in the army for a day. With clarifications, too lazy for the sake of such a "military ace" rummage in the inte. M. b. someone will correct me. Such military experts are especially valuable for the West (for anti-Russian propaganda, of course).
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  42. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 8 October 2015 11: 47 New
    +4
    So for reference, on the map from the Caspian Sea 1500 km that to Syria, that to Kiev.
  43. Alcoholic
    Alcoholic 8 October 2015 11: 52 New
    +1
    I'm sorry for the people who listen to BBC.
    I can not sympathize with them, but also take them seriously, like people, too.
    Worms wassat
  44. Wolka
    Wolka 8 October 2015 11: 53 New
    0
    they tried rackets from ships from the Caspian, now you can try from the Crimea, the Turks will not be offended by tea ...
  45. e_krendel
    e_krendel 8 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +1
    Quote: Kalmar
    Syria faces a "terrible bloody massacre", the result of which will be "tens of thousands" of dead

    What moon did you fall from ??? Has this not happened in recent years?
  46. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 October 2015 11: 57 New
    +1
    “We believe that the Russians are implementing the wrong strategy,” he said. “They still hit targets that don't exist.” We think this is a fundamental mistake. ”


    It is useless to prove something to a stupid head, it is the same as to speak to a pygmy in a "thug" language. laughing
  47. jaguarstas
    jaguarstas 8 October 2015 11: 59 New
    0
    And Pavel Evgenievich Felgenhauer is still a visionary. Like honor and praise to him.
    1. TARAS BULBA
      TARAS BULBA 8 October 2015 13: 52 New
      0
      and military ANALYTIC too)
  48. Vadimsh
    Vadimsh 8 October 2015 12: 01 New
    0
    one drop of tar and kirdyk a barrel of honey
  49. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 8 October 2015 12: 22 New
    +3
    Lord .... how did they get all these "western media" with their "truth" and shouts about freedom of the press, independence of their press .. our "liberasts" and pseudo military independent (only from whom?) Botanists are even more enraged and other bloggers .... they all would have gathered for some kind of conference and by chance a building would have collapsed and a stronger one ..... yes, before the Internet, such bloggers were called on the street simply - "piz ... bol"
    1. squirrel
      squirrel 8 October 2015 23: 39 New
      +1
      You can't even imagine how "Western media" got us! My husband and I (my husband is from birth and is French on all sides) invite each other to watch the French news program with the words: "Can we see a little propaganda?" I personally am especially enraged by two phrases: "human rights" and "civilized world" :)
      Fortunately, the Internet is full of alternative sources of information!
    2. squirrel
      squirrel 8 October 2015 23: 39 New
      +1
      You can't even imagine how "Western media" got us! My husband and I (my husband is from birth and is French on all sides) invite each other to watch the French news program with the words: "Can we see a little propaganda?" I personally am especially enraged by two phrases: "human rights" and "civilized world" :)
      Fortunately, the Internet is full of alternative sources of information!
  50. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 8 October 2015 12: 25 New
    +5
    Quote: Father Nikon
    Well, mine, when people learn to read carefully: TTX of 3M-54, 3M-541 and 3M-14 missiles are classified information and are not publicly available. According to a number of reports, the 3M-14 range is 2600 km. It is written here: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Caliber_ (winged_rocks). And what are you talking about (300km) - these are export options

    And we can give the 3M-14 with a range of 2600 kilometers for "export" for free to everyone who wants it, as we did yesterday))) However, in this case, delivery of the product to the consumer using our own rocket engine)))