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How formidable is the Belarusian army?

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How formidable is the Belarusian army?



Recently, the leadership of Belarus with great enthusiasm began to talk about having one of the most combat-ready armies on the continent, capable of repelling any aggression, no matter where it came from. Similar statements are heard from her southern neighbor, Ukraine, from which Belarusians are increasingly trying to protect themselves: they strengthen their southern borders, create new border troops, conduct numerous exercises and trainings, strengthen control over border crossings, etc. At the same time, in both cases, the words about the high level of combat readiness of the armed forces of the two republics, to put it mildly, are exaggerated - Belarusians, of course, have something to boast of before the Ukrainians and other post-Soviet republics, but they are far from Russia or the developed countries of the West.

The current state of the Belarusian army, according to numerous experts, is far from what could be called serious combat capability. Although Belarus and began to reform its armed forces much earlier than other republics of the former Soviet Union. True, in the 1990s, this was dictated not so much by the desire of the country's leadership to demonstrate its peacefulness to the world, as by simple financial problems that continue to haunt the Belarusian army to this day. During the years of independence, as a result of the reforms, the number of armed forces of the republic has decreased more than four times and today is about 62 000 people, which even by European standards is quite a bit. In addition, a significant part of the weapons inherited from the USSR was sold, which at the turn of the century even made the republic one of the world leaders in trade weapons. At the same time, the army structure was reorganized - instead of armies, divisions and corps brigades were introduced, which are believed to be better suited for conducting maneuverable military actions, as well as organized training of their own military personnel on the basis of the Belarussian Military Academy and various civilian universities. All this at one time made it possible to reduce budgetary expenditures on defense and, to some extent, retain its personnel - no matter how bad the country is, but the military, as a rule, regularly received wages and enjoyed various benefits. And the national composition of the Belarusian army was kept homogeneous, and inside it did not arise either national or religious contradictions. Apparently, this is why many experts believe that the Belarusian military today has one of the highest moral and volitional levels in the post-Soviet space.

However, we have to admit that, unfortunately, the positive moments in the Belarusian army end there. Today, the main problem that the military of Belarus has already encountered is the actual impossibility of carrying out more or less complete modernization of the troops. Simply put, the country's leadership, due to lack of funds, cannot afford to abandon the Soviet-style equipment that is already obsolete both morally and physically. In this case, absolutely everything becomes obsolete - aviation, Tanks, artillery mounts, air defense systems, etc., but on moral-volitional qualities alone it is unlikely to be defeated. All this not only weakens the Belarusian army, but also does not allow, as before, to earn on the sale of weapons. Today, buyers have become extremely picky and do not want to buy equipment 20-30 years ago. This is probably why, according to UN statistics, Belarus recently began to sell just a few units of old Soviet weapons, additionally trading in ammunition, the validity of which is running out.

Based on the information currently available, it can be said that the current military expenditures of the Belarusian budget are not able to meet the modern needs of the army. Today, the republic spends on its armed forces about $ 700 million, taking on this indicator 79 place in the world. For example, Poland, whose army is twice the size of the Belarusian army, spends $ 9,6 billion per year on it. If we recall that the Belarusian budget is formed in the local “currency” and compare the growth rates of military spending with the inflation rate, it turns out that investments in the army in Belarus at best remained at the same level. At the same time, it is still necessary to look for additional funds for the modernization of the army, since modern weapons are extremely expensive. For example, the cost of a C-300 anti-aircraft missile system can reach several hundred million dollars, depending on the modification, and a modern combat aircraft can cost $ 30 − 50 million. Minsk has nowhere to take such funds, and therefore Belarusians have been trying to find a way out of The current situation is when you really want to rearm the army, but there is no opportunity for that.

On the one hand, in Belarus, attempts are being made to repair and bring old weapons into a more modern form with their own resources. The enterprises of the local military-industrial complex not only repair and upgrade tanks, helicopters and airplanes, but also create their own weapons: the reconnaissance and sabotage tank 2 T Stalker, the Stilett air defense complex (together with Ukraine), the Skif anti-tank complexes "And" Hornet ", helicopter Mi-8 MSB. Perhaps the loudest event in this regard was the appearance at the Parade of 9 of May this year, the rocket fire system Polonaise, which was tested in the summer in China. By the way, the Belarusian president was offended by Russia, saying that “our ally, Russia, is not so active in supporting our aspirations”: “We’ll talk separately about this with the Russian president. But thanks to the People’s Republic of China, its leadership for this support. ” It is not reliably known to what extent the given MLRS is more effective than Russian and Western analogs, but it is believed that it allows to deliver a point strike simultaneously to eight targets at a distance of more than 200 km, which makes it no worse than other salvo fire systems.

All these developments, of course, do honor to the Belarusians, but still they are not able to fully bring the Belarusian army in order. Neither can one more “hope” of the republic’s Ministry of Defense — the so-called “territorial defense troops” created since the beginning of the 21st century: for the first time, the practical actions of the territorial troops were worked out back in 2002 during the tactical exercise “Berezina-2002” ". These are, in essence, civilians trained and trained in partisan actions, on whom, what is most interesting, they have serious hopes in the republic. For example, 1 of September was officially announced that "a number of regions of Belarus have expressed their willingness to proactively carry out charges with conscripted territorial troops in the areas of their formation, to carry out their training directly in the areas of the tasks." Moreover, only in the 2015 year, against the background of the Ukrainian events, the territorial defense authorities already took part in more than 40 events, especially distinguished themselves during the inspection of the system of strengthening the state border protection in the south and the territorial defense of the Gomel region. Simply put, the Belarusian authorities decided to plug holes in the combat capability of their country at the expense of ordinary citizens in reserve. And this once again testifies to serious problems in the state defense policy.

On the other hand, Minsk still considers it possible to modernize and strengthen its army at the expense of Russia and the budget of the Union State. At the same time, in the second case, the situation is not getting better every year - due to the worsening economic situation in the Russian economy, all SG programs are gradually shrinking, including in the military sphere. For example, funding of allied military-technical programs has already been reduced by almost a third: if in January 2014, 3,5 billion Russian rubles were allocated for these purposes, then in 2015 a year - only 2,5 billion. Although it cannot be denied that it has long been operating within the Union State agreement on the joint protection of the external border in the airspace and the creation of a unified regional air defense system, due to which the air defense of Belarus is considered one of the most combat-ready in the entire post-Soviet space.

Of course, military-technical cooperation between the two countries is primarily interesting for Belarus, which, as mentioned above, plans to re-equip its army at the expense of Russia. Therefore, it is no coincidence that Minsk has already announced the delivery of four C-2015 divisions by the end of 300 year. Moreover, by 2020, the Belarusians, through joint financing with Russia, are planning to purchase several additional Tor-M2 missile systems that are already in service with the 120 anti-aircraft missile brigade. In addition, the radio engineering troops of the country should also receive the new equipment: the Rosa radar station and the Vostok radar complex. That is, the Belarusian side in any case does not remain in the bag. However, it should be noted that bilateral relations in the field of military-technical cooperation are also interesting for Moscow. For example, in the Kremlin, they still consider it expedient to deploy their military facilities on the Belarusian territory, which, due to the existing integration of the two countries, will not have the status of foreign military bases. Thus, the creation of a military air base in Bobruisk has long been announced. And although the implementation of this project is rather slow, the organization of its own Russian air defense force on the western borders would have cost Moscow much more - about $ 5 billion, which is more than what is currently being demanded from Russia in Minsk. Yes, and the use of Belarusian airfields as objects of forward-based Russian long-range aviation aircraft today looks the most optimal. Therefore, Moscow has already stepped up its actions on this matter: on September 2, the Russian government decided to consider at a meeting of the Eurasian Intergovernmental Council in Grodno (September 8) a proposal to sign an agreement on a Russian air base in Belarus, which should be addressed to V. Putin .

In addition, the aspect of technical cooperation between the two countries, in which both Belarus and Russia receive mutual benefits, is also important: Belarusian enterprises of the military industrial complex for the most part are directly dependent on Russian orders, and Russia, in terms of sanctions and the loss of Ukrainian producers, should close the resulting gaps in the supply of defense products. And in this case we are talking not only about the chassis for the missile systems, which are produced by the Minsk Wheel Tractor Plant. Belarusians provide the Russian defense industry with spare parts for T-90C, T-72C and T-80U tanks, assault and infantry combat vehicles, artillery systems, anti-tank and anti-aircraft complexes, as well as close combat and small arms. In addition to this, in the spring of this year, from the mouth of the Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation D. Rogozin, information was heard that the Belarusian Peleng should replace Ukrainian sights for Russian self-propelled anti-tank complexes Chrysanthemum.

The list of military-technical cooperation of the two countries can be continued for quite a long time. However, even without this, it is clear that Belarus and Russia are interested in preserving allied relations in this direction. Moscow needs to ensure its military presence on the EU’s eastern borders and in the process of “not blinding” in the process of tracking military targets on the continent: only in Belarus from all the post-Soviet republics, except Russia, has a missile attack warning radar located under Baranovichi and tracks the sky over virtually all of Western Europe. For Minsk, cooperation with Russian partners has a double benefit. First of all, this is an opportunity “for free” to modernize its army. Secondly, keeping at least some leverage in Moscow’s hands. The Belarusian authorities have repeatedly said that only thanks to them a peaceful sky is maintained over the head of the Russians, and therefore the Kremlin must spare no expense and continue to sponsor its allies. True, every year such arguments are becoming less and less effective, but in Minsk they continue to believe in their indispensability for Russia. But the value of such an ally for Moscow every year seems less and less obvious. Moreover, Belarusians will not be able to support Russia in the event of a serious danger: according to the information available today, in the event of military aggression, according to the plan, Belarusian troops will have to move closer to the Russian borders and wait for help from their ally. Such is the reality in the defense sphere of the Republic of Belarus, which is far from what local propaganda is trying to show everyone.
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  1. with
    with 10 September 2015 05: 57 New
    +8
    Belarus and Russia are interested in maintaining allied relations in this direction.This is the main thing.
    It is necessary to integrate the Belarusian army into the CSTO deployment groups, and it may be necessary to help technically. Remembering the Great Patriotic War, there was a fact when the Lithuanian units of the Red Army, not wanting to fight, were dismissed to their homes. True, they did not differ much in participating in the SS, which is now being heroized by the West. And if they immediately started a war against the Nazis?
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 10 September 2015 06: 04 New
      +41
      You are a little wrong. The Lithuanian waffen ss distinguished themselves in the reprisals against the civilian population of Belarus, Pskov and Smolensk.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 10 September 2015 10: 56 New
        +11
        Lithuanian waffen ss


        There was no Waffen SS in Lithuania; they were created in Latvia and Estonia. Of the Lithuanians, only police battalions were formed, given their peculiarity, scattering through the forests.
        1. captain
          captain 20 January 2017 17: 49 New
          0
          Asadullah, he doesn’t give a damn, the main plus has been a lot. Pay attention to the flag, the red, principled communist, but they don’t lie, they are deceiving.
    2. CRONOS
      CRONOS 10 September 2015 06: 48 New
      +13
      How formidable is the Belarusian army?

      -Depends on whether there is a forest nearby or not. smile
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 10 September 2015 08: 27 New
      +24
      You can, of course, talk about the current contradictions in relations between the Russian Federation and Belarus. And these inconsistencies are only for the common good. Otherwise, there is no development. But as far as war is concerned, here you are. No one will remember where the Russians, and where the Belarusians. All will be united against a common enemy. The artificial division of one nation is always sewn with white thread.
      1. ryl77777
        ryl77777 10 September 2015 11: 34 New
        +1
        Well, yes ... Everything is exactly the same with Ukraine. So to speak, one people ... In all its glory.
    4. War and Peace
      War and Peace 10 September 2015 09: 11 New
      +17
      // That's just the value of such an ally for Moscow every year seems less and less obvious. All the more so, except in words, Belarusians will not be able to support Russia in case of serious danger: according to information available today, in the event of military aggression, Belarusian troops according to the plan will have to move closer to the Russian borders and wait for help from their ally.

      Belarus is our brothers, we have not many brothers and too many enemies, in case of any war Belarusians will be for Russians, not NATO. The author, as he wants too much from Belarus, but not many military factories there, do not make tanks and planes and engines and Belarus is not rich in resources, and now what? Let's drop them and what will be there? But NATO will be there and the country will fall apart, like the Baltic states or Moldova. Therefore, arming the army of Belarus, Russia ALWAYS strengthens its borders and security, and it is VERY EXPENSIVE.
      And Belarus should move, the only thing Belarusians can put on the market is HIGH-INTELLIGENT, science-intensive products, which no one else does. For example, in Belarus there are factories for the production of microcircuits, it is necessary to strengthen work in this direction, the potato is good, but to make sights even better, everyone will take it, because now everyone is at war ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 10 September 2015 06: 04 New
    +31
    How formidable is the Belarusian army?
    You ask how much? The answer, apparently, is: "exactly as much as the people of Belarus are ready to die for their country." It’s easy to calculate the number of tanks, planes and other weapons, but how do you calculate how many people will go into the woods or the city underground and will harm and shoot at to the enemy.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 September 2015 06: 18 New
      +20
      Quote: svp67
      but how do you count how many people will go into the woods or the city underground and will harm and shoot at the enemy.

      It’s hard for me to imagine that the NATO army would occupy the territory of Belarus.
      A warrior with Belarus means a warrior with Russia!
      Farther from Europe there will be little left and complete chaos will begin where those who can survive will immediately rule the ball. And these are the Islamists, who are in the mountains by the fire, in Europe in a tent.
      1. svp67
        svp67 10 September 2015 06: 40 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It’s hard for me to imagine that the NATO army would occupy the territory of Belarus.
        A warrior with Belarus means a warrior with Russia!

        In the light of everything happening now in the world, I no longer exclude the possibility of a direct NATO-Russia clash. Alas.
        The United States again amuses itself with the hope of serving "overseas," under the "umbrella of missile defense." There, they are no longer so afraid of our nuclear weapons as before, they have full confidence that they will be able to neutralize it with a "first strike"
        1. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 10 September 2015 07: 31 New
          +18
          Several years ago, I had a chance to talk informally with a friend of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, so he honestly said that if the Germans took Minsk on the sixth day of the war in the 41st year, now the situation will be similar and the main task of the Belarusian army to contain longer than the enemy and give time to turn around the Russian army in eastern Belarus. I think he did not disclose any military secrets.
          1. Weyland
            Weyland 10 September 2015 11: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: Anatole Klim
            if the Germans in the 41st year took Minsk on the sixth day of the war, now there will be a similar situation


            And you were interested on what day the Germans took Minsk in years First MV? EMNIP, on the 900th with something! But can not it be that the situation will be similar to the WWII, not WWII?
            1. Anatole Klim
              Anatole Klim 10 September 2015 12: 59 New
              +3
              Quote: Weyland
              And you were wondering, on what day did the Germans take Minsk during the First MV? EMNIP, on the 900th with something!

              The Germans took Minsk into World War I almost without a fight, because February 1918 was on and the Imperial Army actually did not exist, the Red Army was just being created and Lenin signed the Peace of Brest.
              Quote: Weyland
              But can not it be that the situation will be similar to the WWII, not WWII?

              The situation was modeled by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, and they did not ask questions “but cannot be ...”. Remember at least the military staff games before the war, when Zhukov defeated Pavlov ...
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 10 September 2015 18: 21 New
                +3
                Quote: Anatole Klim
                In World War I, the Germans took Minsk almost without a fight,


                I mean, what happened before - the Germans quickly took Poland, but in Belarus they got stuck tight: Smorgon kept 810 days!

                Quote: Anatole Klim
                Remember at least the military staff games before the war, when Zhukov defeated Pavlov ...


                I remember how not to remember ... It’s bad that they didn’t draw the proper conclusions crying !

                PS I, unlike you, are civilian, and in matters of defense I will not "judge above the boot" hi . But I’m no two-year-old, at the training camp I passed everything "perfectly", and I know the story very well! wink
                1. Anatole Klim
                  Anatole Klim 10 September 2015 19: 22 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Weyland
                  I know the story very well!

                  Your knowledge of history, especially the history of the First World War, about which, unfortunately, we have very little knowledge, causes great respect, and there were great victories and tragic defeats, fearless heroes and mean traitors. Unfortunately, many historians have emerged both here and abroad, who rewrite history so that their fists are clenched ... oh well. hi
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          2. 222222
            222222 10 September 2015 20: 58 New
            0
            The population as of mid-2015 is about 9 thousand people, the territory is 485,3 km². Gross domestic product
            71,71 billion USD (2013
            ..Gross domestic product in other regions
            Russia
            2,097 trillion USD (2013)
            Poland
            525,9 billion USD (2013)
            Ukraine
            177,4 billion USD (2013
            + =========================================
            . Territorial defense is an essential component of the state’s military security system.
            Its main goals are:
            giving national defense to the national defense;
            increasing the capabilities of the state’s military organization to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Republic of Belarus;
            creation of conditions for the sustainable functioning of state bodies and organizations, the economy, infrastructure and vital functions of the population of the Republic of Belarus in the event of a military threat and in wartime.
            The most important tasks of territorial defense include: "" "...
        2. Army soldier2
          Army soldier2 10 September 2015 12: 14 New
          +3
          If the ss had at least minimal confidence that they would be able to fend off our retaliatory or retaliatory strike, then I think you and I would not have the opportunity to “shine with intellect” in the comments.
          Russia is the only power capable of destroying America. These are their words.
          And, as for the army of Belarus, then, unfortunately, Russia always had two allies: the army and the navy. It is necessary to proceed from this, despite the fact that Belarusians are, of course, fraternal people.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 September 2015 06: 15 New
    +31
    Belarusians, of course, have something to boast of with Ukrainians and other post-Soviet republics, but they are far from Russia or the developed countries of the West.

    Belarus has an army within its capabilities and it cannot be said that it is weak (at least not with the Ukrainian, and even more with the Baltic ones, it is not worth comparing). Of course, Belarusians are counting on Russia in matters of defense. And they do not compare their own with the Russian army.
  4. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 10 September 2015 06: 23 New
    +18
    The main thing in the Belarusian army is that it is completely unified with the Russian one, and which Belarusians in the Great Patriotic War proved .. I don’t think that weakened in spirit.
  5. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 10 September 2015 06: 27 New
    +20
    The author of the article is a hidden enemy. He wants to softly drive doubts into immature
    heads. Russia and Belarus weighed back and forth on everyone's tinsels and suckers
    when I flew to the states in Belarus there were 80 thousand troops and 125 thousand forces
    well, without me 124999 cops.
    after almost twenty years ... I'd rather not fly.
    1. CRONOS
      CRONOS 10 September 2015 07: 03 New
      +1
      Why then flew away or why didn’t he come back?
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 10 September 2015 14: 02 New
        +1
        Why then flew away or why didn’t he come back?


        Each performs its task.
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 10 September 2015 06: 49 New
    +30
    "They have a small army and the only thing they can do is courageously die, taking with them more enemies" ....
    Personally, I am going to do so if my life is needed to protect the Fatherland!
    Just a statement of fact hi
    PS. An army of rams led by a lion is stronger than an army of lions led by a ram wink
    And if we take into account the moral side of the matter in the fight against unfinished fascism and the Europedics! ... Then there are no options soldier
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 10 September 2015 11: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Rurikovich
      the only thing they can do is courageously die, taking with them more enemies


      "And it was an honor to die
      Amid bullets and frosted blades,
      And carry with you to the grave
      Two or three enemies, two or three enemies "
      (V. Vysotsky, "Montenegrins").

      Practice shows that with such peoples even very powerful and numerous enemies without urgent need prefer not to get involved - and Montenegro is an example! hi
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    3. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 10 September 2015 12: 13 New
      +1
      LOWER TAGIL, September 9th. / TASS /. Russia and Belarus at the Russia Arms Expo in Nizhny Tagil signed a contract for the supply of a BTR-82A batch to the Armed Forces of Belarus. This was announced on September 9 by TASS, First Deputy Chief of Armaments of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, Major General Gen. Simonenko.
      "The Russian side today signed a contract for the supply of the most modern BTR-82A armored vehicles to the Armed Forces of our republic," he said.
      He specified that these vehicles will arrive in the ground units of the Belarusian Armed Forces in 2016. "These machines allow us to solve a wide range of tasks with high efficiency, so our army is very interested in them," the general explained.
      The development and creation of these weapons in Russia is carried out by the Military Industrial Company, which, in particular, produces the new generation of Boomerang armored personnel carriers.
      Earlier, a source in the Russian military-industrial complex told TASS that more than 10 cars would be delivered under the contract of Belarus.
      hi
    4. Volga Cossack
      Volga Cossack 10 September 2015 17: 08 New
      0
      fully agree!
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  7. Yarik
    Yarik 10 September 2015 06: 57 New
    -8
    How formidable is the Belarusian army?

    reorganization of the army structure was carried out - instead of armies, divisions and corps, brigades were introduced, which are considered to be more suitable for conducting maneuverable military operations

    Brigades yes ... they are good for fighting in the colonies with the natives. To my shame, I do not remember the names of the Belarusian colonies and their geographical location. wassat
    1. Baloo_bst
      Baloo_bst 10 September 2015 11: 08 New
      +17
      Support.
      In the Second World War on the territory of the Republic of Belarus there were regions where the entire Soviet period, the Soviet power remained, schools and collective farms worked.
      Just a list of partisan formations and their numbers operating on the territory of Belarus is amazing.
      According to the data of the State. archive in the partisans on the territory of Belarus there were 373 942 people (the figure is not complete). They were united in 1255 detachments, 997 of them were in 213 brigades and regiments, 258 acted independently. Partisan reserves amounted to more than 440 thousand people. More than 70% of the partisans who fought in our country were Belarusians.
      So that the army may be small, but there are enough ready to fight for their homeland.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 10 September 2015 14: 21 New
        +5
        So that the army may be small, but there are enough ready to fight for their homeland


        Although Belarus is wedged into the body of a likely adversary, it is unlikely as a bridgehead of a theater of operations. In the light of today. First of all, because there is no real force capable of concentrating an army sufficient for invasion within a year or two. After all, you’ll have to fight all over the wind rose and the first blow will be in the KO and the Leningrad region.

        To arrange some kind of local war in the territory of Belarus? I don’t really imagine the goals of such and with great interest I would look at a person, at least theoretically substantiating this. The rest of Belarusians are not even brothers, it is part of the body of the Russian people and a functional part of the Russian nation. From that, a separate fantastic attack on Belarus, Russia, and indeed all Russians will be regarded even more painfully than on the Russian Federation. It’s the same if the bully hit you or hit your child. In the first case, they can just wring their hands, and in the second, there will be no wait ....
    2. captain
      captain 20 January 2017 18: 02 New
      0
      Dear Yarik. I quote you; "... yes, the brigades are good for fighting in the colonies with the natives. To my shame, I do not remember the names of the Belarusian colonies and their geographical location."
      If you think that in the 1941-42gg the Red Army fought with the natives (in the Red Army in the 41-43gg several hundred brigades of rifle, naval rifle, marines, etc.) were formed, then I am happy for you and your historian teachers. Try to recall the USSR colonies in these years and please tell us who these natives were by nationality who reached Stalingrad. I will be very obliged to you.
  8. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 September 2015 07: 06 New
    +1
    Nobody canceled the possibility of the appearance of the Maidan in Belarus. And no matter how generously we feed the people of the Republic of Belarus, we can instantly become “quilted jackets” and aggressors for them. More precisely, a small part will express it loudly, and a large part will either silently agree or just sit back. Probably in Russia, such options are also being calculated, because rocket tractors are also being launched here.
    1. CRONOS
      CRONOS 10 September 2015 07: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: Zomanus
      Nobody canceled the possibility of the appearance of the Maidan in Belarus. And no matter how generously we feed the people of the Republic of Belarus, we can instantly become “quilted jackets” and aggressors
      good
      I often think about this too. what Honestly, I thought that the position of the Belarusians was pro-Russian and did not expect so many support sided strides in Belarus.
      The ruin press or Belarusian stinky writes about Russia. sad
      1. dima-fesko
        dima-fesko 10 September 2015 08: 22 New
        +18
        2May 7, 2015 07:51 | "The Fellowship of the Ring"
        New color revolutions no longer work. In Macedonia - the usual scenario, some kind of languid and slurred, in Belarus - taking into account fatherly throwing to the extreme - who knows ... But I wish the Belarusians good luck and happiness.

        Thank you for your luck. However, "cauliflower" in Belarus is basically impossible (which pleases), namely: there is no systemic and constructive opposition, an oligarchy, there are no territorial, ethnic, national and religious contradictions. Power is strong. There is an understanding that all sorts of “associations” there will not immediately make Belarusians with average European prosperity. The attitude towards NATO is definitely straightforward - on the contrary. bugger parades in Minsk will not. Relations with the EU and the United States are defined - cooperation is only on an equal footing (they certainly don’t like it), that’s crazy. There are no throwing from side to side (see above) in the EU and the USA, and Russia (and this is claimed not only by the authorities but also by the people) is always with us, or rather we are one.


        As for the article, the author did not answer the question "How threatening is the Belarusian army", where is the alignment, where is the analytics? In the article, I saw only "about scientific political verbiage." Of course, it is unlikely that Belarusians will be able to position themselves with a rating army, but (God forbid) she can spoil not only her nerves. And what she hopes for Russia is understandable.

        She is a military and strategic partner of Russia! Airbase and air defense deployment is how? Of course, Belarus puts itself under attack, but at the initial stage it will provide a reserve of time for the deployment of the Russian army (read the CSTO)
      2. Buffalo
        Buffalo 10 September 2015 11: 35 New
        +4
        Unfortunately, you are mistaken. - In Belarus, there are enough fools who, like the Ukrainians, are ready to ruin their country with their own hands. They don’t know that they, like rams, are led by Western "shepherds".
        My colleague, at Odnoklassniki.ru, tried to prove to me that Lukashenko is very bad. The fool does not understand that if he weren’t A.G. Lukashenko, he would now be either in the analogue of the “Right Sector” or in the grave.
        If a person is stupid, then this is for a long time. Practice shows that about 20-25% of the population is not able to think independently. Hence the problems.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 10 September 2015 11: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Bison
          Practice shows that about 20-25% of the population are not able to think independently


          Rather, quite the contrary - only about 20-25% of the population able think independently! For this, there is agitation and propaganda - and much depends on the ability of the state to use them correctly!
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        3. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 11 September 2015 00: 33 New
          +4
          Quote: Bison
          My colleague, at Odnoklassniki.ru, tried to prove to me that Lukashenko is very bad

          I don’t know what you were talking about and what were the arguments.
          But.
          Not that Lukashenko would be very bad.
          Rather, it is bad that He (Lukashenko) does not fully cover for the challenges of the time.
          Here are a lot of people in the comments on articles on Belarus who express the opinion: "And if the Maidan in Belarus and But father cannot resist, then what? How will it be in Ukraine."

          This is the main question to which Lukashenko must find an effective answer. That would, when choosing a new president, the Republic of Belarus would preserve the vector of development that exists, and not sharply turn around 180 degrees along the way, taking out the gold reserve you know where.
    2. Seryoga DV
      Seryoga DV 10 September 2015 08: 43 New
      +3
      In my opinion, in Belarus it will be more difficult to implement an analogue of the Maidan, if only because the President of the Republic of Belarus may ask to use the forces of the CRRF to restore constitutional order.
      Although ... when communicating not only with Belarusians, but also with Russians, interesting personalities sometimes meet, the essence of which was well described in the article about "chips". Therefore, the work for the authorities is no end: cut off the sources of infection in the form of foreign financing and influence. Dissatisfied with the authorities will be always and everywhere - and this is normal, the main thing is that the parties concerned do not use this discontent to destroy the state or its sovereignty.
    3. 0255
      0255 10 September 2015 09: 56 New
      +7
      Quote: Zomanus
      Nobody canceled the possibility of the appearance of the Maidan in Belarus. And no matter how generously we feed the people of the Republic of Belarus, we can instantly become “quilted jackets” and aggressors for them. More precisely, a small part will express it loudly, and a large part will either silently agree or just sit back. Probably in Russia, such options are also being calculated, because rocket tractors are also being launched here.

      Read the comments on the popular Belarusian sites onliner.by and tut.by - sometimes they turn into a Ukrainian censor, with comments about Russian troops invading Ukraine, about how Belarus urgently needs to join the EU and refuse to cooperate with the Russian Federation. Not all Belarusians support the reunification of Crimea with Russia, not all for New Russia. And many who look to the west, against the background of where Belarus has now sunk, and blame Russia for everything, just like Svidomo dill. The factories that Belarus inherited from the USSR finally bend, work 3-4 days, produce products “at the warehouse”, there is very little modern competitive production in the country, there is no work, prices are higher than those of neighboring countries, the dollar is growing constantly, with prices are also rising by him, under the promise of "there will be no crisis and devaluation." The country lives only at the expense of loans from Russia, sometimes from the IMF and the European Union; loans go to the construction of all kinds of ice palaces and hotels that do not pay off.
      Who will give me a minus - come to Belarus for permanent residence, you will see that not everything is as beautiful with us as it seems to the Russians.
      1. Svetoch
        Svetoch 10 September 2015 16: 56 New
        +5
        I live in permanent residence. Moved from Russia. I almost completely confirm these words. Not all plants for 3-4 days work, and as a whole, the situation is very accurately described in Belarus. For a long time I stopped reading comments on the online player and even the online player myself only use it as a trading platform. Yes, there are also enough adequate people there, but the Belarusian Internet community is mainly against Russia. By the way, for the word Belarus, many with shit will eat you, and even send it. Since most of my life I lived in Russia, I used to say “Belarus” like that, then I tried to get used to saying “Belarus”, but it didn’t always work out that “Belarus” often pops up and often the conversation ends.
        Generally 0255 speaks the truth. How sad it is. sad
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 11 September 2015 00: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Svetoch
          Generally 0255 is telling the truth. How sad it is.

          And there is. Rather, not only that way, few people can know how, but even so. hi
          Quote: Svetoch
          but it didn’t always work out, “Belarus” often pops up and often the conversation ends.

          Some very gifted personalities come across to you, just for this reason to end the conversation.
          In my opinion - this is the opposite reason for starting an intimate conversation. drinks
          In general, yes. There is such a topic in our pool.
          It’s like a “marker” you live in Belarus or a “newcomer”.
          As for me personally - stupidly not farsightedly demand from a person to drastically change the habit of pronouncing the name
          (Also A.S. Pushkin wrote: Above we got used to it from above ...)
          The official media is another matter, but I would like to hear the correct name from them.
          PS
          then I tried to get used to saying "Belarus", but it didn’t always work out

          Allow me to inquire? And now, as you say?
          1. Svetoch
            Svetoch 24 September 2015 17: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: prosto_rgb
            Allow me to inquire? And now, as you say?

            I’ll show a better picture smile
            1. Sling
              Sling 27 September 2015 14: 10 New
              +1
              What is true is true. I myself am sitting in the Russian blogosphere, sites, and Belarus himself has always spoken and written. So I wrote on my site. Yes, my beloved Bulbashs almost ate me. Come correct. Although in fact both names are correct, just the Russians say so, Belarus in a different way. As for me, the "Belarus" is a more correct name. We don’t speak the Belarussian language, but still “Belorussian” drinks
      2. Starik72
        Starik72 10 September 2015 23: 37 New
        -3
        I live in Belarus and put you a minus. Because you don’t understand much.
        1. 0255
          0255 11 September 2015 00: 05 New
          0
          Quote: Starik72
          I live in Belarus and put you a minus. Because you don’t understand much.

          And why am I or Svetoch don’t understand in our "stability and independence?". I myself see where the country is heading. Starik72, smaller BT and ONT look.
  9. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 10 September 2015 08: 14 New
    +3
    It’s just that it’s time to restore one country a long time ago and there will be no unnecessary “gravels”.
    And the fact that the Belarusian army will tear up any European, I have no doubt.
    1. 0255
      0255 10 September 2015 10: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: Volzhanin
      It’s just that it’s time to restore one country a long time ago and there will be no unnecessary “gravels”.

      Restoration of the USSR is possible only by polite people like in Crimea, not a single government of the CIS countries will want to lose its power.
      Quote: Volzhanin
      And the fact that the Belarusian army will tear up any European, I have no doubt.

      Yeah, before the joint exercises with Russia, Belarusian equipment is being taken for repairs in the Russian Federation so that it does not stall during the exercises from old age.
      1. Starik72
        Starik72 10 September 2015 23: 40 New
        0
        And how do you know this, the answers to the studio.
        1. 0255
          0255 11 September 2015 00: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Starik72
          And how do you know this, the answers to the studio.

          what's the difference from where?
    2. Khmelnichanin
      Khmelnichanin 10 September 2015 13: 38 New
      0
      And to tear, what will it be?
      1. 0255
        0255 10 September 2015 13: 51 New
        -2
        Quote: Khmelnichanin
        And to tear, what will it be?

        Slogans "For" laughing
  10. vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 10 September 2015 08: 46 New
    +5
    What is the point of considering the Belarusian Armed Forces in isolation from Russia?
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 11 September 2015 00: 18 New
      +1
      Well, analysts are such analysts.
      They can not do that.
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  12. vomag
    vomag 10 September 2015 09: 00 New
    -1
    Here I read komenty and I think how much conversation? army 65 thousand .. cops 125 thousand + at least 10 thousand special services, do you even understand that this is a construction of a totalitarian state that is afraid of revolution, not invasion! Dictatorships against external aggression are not viable, so think about who will fight for their homeland and Lukashenka, and who will kill will start to burn .... Do not feed the illusions of dissent and Svidomo here the same is enough
    1. tyzyaga
      tyzyaga 10 September 2015 09: 15 New
      0
      Well, right! Everywhere has its own moderate opposition (smoothies) :))
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 10 September 2015 16: 08 New
      +5
      Dictatorships against external aggression are not viable


      Only dictatorships are able to withstand external aggression. Democracies always surrender immediately
  13. 31rus
    31rus 10 September 2015 09: 16 New
    0
    It’s high time at least to work out the command and command association with the worst scenarios, and not to ask stupid questions, the interaction should be at a very high level, so together with your army you need to reform the Belarusian one and the same tasks, more joint exercises should become the norm, not only in "their territory", it’s enough to play a lot of politics; by the way, experience in preparing civilians can be considered, if it’s worthwhile to implement it, without this (rear) all army reforms do not make sense
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 11 September 2015 00: 13 New
      0
      Quote: 31rus
      more joint exercises should become the norm

      So they are held constantly, the last 15 years, starting in 2001. General republican (including with the participation of the Russian military) in the fall, September-October, depending on the year.
      At the Ashuluk firing range, our air defense also conduct firing in conjunction with the Russian military, probably in general since 1998.
      Now (in 2015) they are only being completed or have already been completed, there was a story on news from the Republic of Belarus that there were about 400 military personnel.
      In the Pskov region they have just begun, about 1300 military personnel (officers, warrant officers, soldiers) are participating from the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus
  14. B- 3ACADE
    B- 3ACADE 10 September 2015 09: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: CRONOS
    Why then flew away or why didn’t he come back?

    You know this is very personal. But in a nutshell; there was a Union. There was a Motherland. There was a flag.
    was the army. 1991, sitting at Belorussky Train Station, my late father said
    - Well, ours have taken power - whether they will pull it. DO NOT PULL ...
  15. erofich
    erofich 10 September 2015 09: 50 New
    -6
    Another relative who needs to be fed, but has he already paid for everything with his existence?
  16. Buffalo
    Buffalo 10 September 2015 09: 51 New
    +5
    The article does not say anything about the lack of combat experience in the army of Belarus. And this is extremely important! The Russian army has such experience, many republics of the former USSR also have it. And those of the Belarusian officers who fought in Afghanistan are already pensioners ...
    It is wise to involve citizens in teaching guerrilla action. This is evidenced by the historical experience of Belarus, this is facilitated by local natural conditions - forests, swamps. To the honor of Lukashenko, his loyalty to Russia should be noted. Indeed, after the collapse of the USSR they kept the western border, when they brought the Russian army to ruin and poverty, the Old Man kept his army at the proper level. He is sometimes reproached for the fact that sometimes his actions diverge from the interests of Russia. But, if you recall how he was poisoned by the Russian (or rather, anti-Russian media - remember the notorious P. Sheremet and his accomplices!), The actions of the official authorities of Russia in relation to the allies ... - you begin to understand that the Old Man is right! He is the head of a sovereign state, which has its own interests and he defends them with dignity. Unlike the Baltic states, they did not shout to the West: "Take us, please!" The people in the country are not poor, as in Moldova. They do not live richly, within their means, but with dignity, they preserved the trade union health resorts, the health system inherited from the USSR, modernized industry and agriculture. And Belarusian guest workers in Russia are not visible. And the basis of their economy is not raw materials like ours.
    But, the constitution of Belarus prohibits its army from participating in military conflicts on the territory of allied states. And without this, experience will not appear.
  17. Asadullah
    Asadullah 10 September 2015 10: 47 New
    +5
    First of all, this is an opportunity to “modernize” their army “for free”.


    Interestingly, what is being considered, the possibility of a separate defense of Belarus on their own? The Armed Forces of Belarus should be considered as part of a common defensive concept. And the whole question is in the personality of Lukashenko, which even in this case requires uncontrolled injections into the defense. When the projects of the general air defense system are completed, the staff question will arise about the order of submission in the event of hostilities. For you understand, in this case there cannot be two commanders in chief, otherwise the old man will break firewood. From that the expression “for free” is not consistent, to put it mildly, this is a question of our own defense, in which the Belarusian leader acts as a determinant.
  18. iouris
    iouris 10 September 2015 11: 10 New
    0
    Without integration on a qualitatively new socio-economic basis and the involvement of the former Ukraine in this association, Belarus and the Russian Federation have no future. We are all waiting for the fate of Iraq, Libya and Syria.
  19. akudr48
    akudr48 10 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +5
    Strengthening the Armed Forces of Belarus - in the interests of Russia.

    Rulers come and go, both in Minsk and Moscow, and the single Russian people remain, no matter how they renamed it at the place of settlement and residence in the Ukrainians and Belarusians.

    And the Russian people should be well prepared militarily, both in Russia and in Belarus.
    1. 0255
      0255 10 September 2015 12: 25 New
      0
      Quote: akudr48
      Rulers come and go, both in Minsk and Moscow, and the single Russian people remain, no matter how they renamed it at the place of settlement and residence in the Ukrainians and Belarusians.

      That's just the division into Russian, Belarusians, Ukrainians does not contribute to the unity of the Russian people. The official Belarusian propaganda tells us that we, Belarusians, a young nation, live in a young “independent prazvyatyushchuyu state”, and after these slogans, young people already consider themselves a separate people. And the opposition, probably depending on the degree of “Belarusian Svyatomassi”, says either as ukroSMI that either Belarusians and Ukrainians are real Slavic Russia, and the Russian Federation are savage Asians, Finno-Tatar-Mongols, or that Belarusians are Baltic Litvinians, not related to Russian barbarians.
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 11 September 2015 00: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: akudr48
      Strengthening the Armed Forces of Belarus - in the interests of Russia.

      Without any doubt. hi
      It’s a pity that not everyone understands this.
  20. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 10 September 2015 11: 20 New
    +2
    The airfield network in Belarus, compared to the times of the USSR, is naturally much shrunk, but for example Su-25 is based in Lida, there is a training ground nearby, on which they operate quite regularly. Now, there are also Yak-130s.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 11 September 2015 00: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Aleksandr1959
      The airfield network in Belarus compared to the times of the USSR, t is naturally much shrunk,

      Unfortunately, grief leaders have no brain loading airfields in central Europe.
      Yes, and runway lovers to take apart the fences are not only in Russia.
  21. roskot
    roskot 10 September 2015 11: 26 New
    +4
    What is so pessimistic. Belarus and Russia have no future without Ukraine. And I think that Ukraine has no future
    without Belarus and the Russian Federation. Russia rebuilt the outskirts of the USSR. It will rebuild itself. Let Ukraine try to rebuild itself without Russia.
  22. strannik1985
    strannik1985 10 September 2015 12: 16 New
    0
    I wonder what problems the United States has, because for the operation "Desert Storm" in 1990, 300 thousand people were called up from the reserve, and for the operation "Indomitable Freedom" 250 thousand people? In the USA, Great Britain, Germany (until 1991, for sure), calling on reservists to conduct military operations is a common thing (but at the same time they are mainly engaged in the tasks of ensuring, including protecting communications) and look for one of the main problems of the army for a person who claims to The expert title is weird.
  23. Krilion
    Krilion 10 September 2015 12: 23 New
    +1
    I have nothing against the military-technical assistance of Belarus .. BUT !!! .. exclusively by the technology replaced during the rotation in the RF Armed Forces with newer models ... although, I think it’s worth recognizing that no one is threatening or thinking about Belarus on this topic, because everyone perfectly understands that in the event of such a conflict, they will have to deal with Russia ... but if someone climbs into Russia from, say, Ukraine (the US being portrayed) or China, the Belarusians will not even scratch themselves ...
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 10 September 2015 23: 58 New
      0
      Quote: Krilion
      everyone understands that in the event of such a conflict, they will have to deal with Russia ...

      So you just formulated the concept of using the united group of troops of the western direction. The Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus are fighting on their territory, and if necessary, they are supported by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation.
      Quote: Krilion
      but if someone climbs into Russia from, for example, Ukraine (US

      But, precisely because of close military cooperation between the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation, the 20th Army of the Russian Federation is now deployed in Kursk, Oryol, Voronezh, Lipeyka regions / provinces (I don’t remember the 5th). And not in Smolensk, Bryansk and Kaluga, for example.
      Quote: Krilion
      or china

      Belarusians, even if they are scratched in 3 shifts, are unlikely to rectify the situation.
  24. lopvlad
    lopvlad 10 September 2015 12: 45 New
    +3
    To the honor of Lukashenko, his loyalty to Russia should be noted.

    This frankly killed me. The percentage of fidelity to friendship with Russia on the part of Lukashenko depends on the flow of money that Russia allocates to Belarus annually (less money and Lukashenko has already prolonged anti-Russian speeches).
    Russia is for the government of Ukraine and for the government of Belarus it is a cash cash cow.
    A friend is known in trouble and not in a well-fed life. Before signing the agreement on the EAEU, Lukashenko crossed out all the provisions concerning the development of unified political decisions and upholding them on the world stage with trembling hands with trembling fury.
    Why did Lukashenko not like this so much?
    In this case, sitting on two chairs would be impossible. If you want to, but the power of Belarus is on the path of Ukraine. Whether time will tell whether it will be able to avoid a similar instability.
  25. DesToeR
    DesToeR 10 September 2015 12: 54 New
    +5
    The author does not know the past of his country? The author tell me what was the name of the country in which you live 100 years ago? What territories did this country include? Were there then such regions / principalities / countries / republics / federal circles as, for example, Ukraine or Belarus? Russians give yourself an answer to these questions and frankly delusional quotes like:
    That's just the value of such an ally for Moscow every year seems less and less obvious.

    Ally!!! For Belarus, we are not brothers for the Russians but ... an ally.
    For Minsk, cooperation with Russian partners has double benefits. First of all, this is an opportunity to “modernize” their army “for free”.

    Do you seriously consider the author "freebie" to give weapons to another country so that this country fights for you, if it happens, and even perishes ?! Tell you the meaning of the word bodyguard?
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 10 September 2015 20: 26 New
      -2
      Quote: DesToeR
      Belarusians we are not brothers for Russians


      All questions to Lukashenko who rubs us from the screen about the Belarusian nation separate from Russia and its language.
      And the fact that this new Belarusian nation due to its original culture and language will give an answer to any aggressor.

      There is one great Russian people who lives in Belarus, Ukraine, Russia. Anyone who wants to divide this people into different nations is our common enemy.
  26. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 10 September 2015 12: 57 New
    +1
    We set up the equipment at the airfields in Belarus together with the Borisov plant several years ago. We painted it of course not bad, but the repair inside is a complete ass, which they were told about. Operation was also not ah. The knowledge of the equipment was 2 plus. Two days wrote as it should , although everything is in the Instructions for Use (but you need to read, but here is shorter). Yes, and the technique that the planes, that the RTO, that the RSP is small, is old. They asked why, show off the boxes in bulk from the Old Man, they said about abbreviations and about the mess, in short, and there, as we have with Taburetkin before. Maybe now they will do something with our help. The main thing is that Batyuk throws the show off.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 10 September 2015 23: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Operation is also not ah ... although everything is in the Operating Instructions (but you have to read it, but here is shorter)

      Because everything can be done in three ways:
      1- That's right.
      2- Not Right.
      3- By Military.
  27. shed
    shed 10 September 2015 12: 58 New
    +7
    you probably work out the American dalars, or you, with whom Belarus can fight in the west, right with NATO, a small country, not Russia and not even flattering, but you can also get a sluggish flapper in your teeth, and as always, the Kremlin will have to go through Belarus, no need to stink
  28. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 10 September 2015 13: 20 New
    +6
    Guys, let's take great respect for the fraternal Belarusian Army! But I want to say that the Army of Belarus is as "formidable" as friendly with Russia, the Union Treaty implies the joint repulsion of any aggressor and there is no need to say that there can be no "chavo"! All information about the power of NATO is a complete bluff and exaggeration: yes, they foolishly bombed Libya and took part in other adventures with the United States almost completely used up the engine life of their aircraft (look at the example of the FRG - how many combat aircraft they have, well, that's it) . And therefore, any armed conflict between NATO and Russia is the Pentagon’s blue dream, which in any case will “rub its hands” and fill its pockets, but is not going to defend anyone! Their main task is to weaken Russia, even through the complete collapse of Europe, but not themselves "beloved"!
  29. serzh71
    serzh71 10 September 2015 15: 21 New
    +9
    Grozny is not formidable, but at the Army International Games 2015 the team of Belarusian army men won third place in the medal standings. Yielding to Russia and China. An argument in favor of the menacing Belarusian army.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 10 September 2015 23: 38 New
      0
      The argument is undeniable!
      But in my opinion, no one raised the question of the professional skills of the Belarusian military.
      The question is exclusively in the chronic underfunding of the army.
      Even the article indicates defense expenditures of $ 0,7 billion with a GDP of $ 78 billion, and defense expenditures are LESS than 1% of GDP.
      According to NATO standards, members of the alliance in peacetime should spend at least 2% of GDP on defense.
  30. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 10 September 2015 16: 18 New
    +1
    Who is to blame for the fact that the Republic of Belarus does not have money for its army?
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    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 10 September 2015 23: 29 New
      0
      Probably the economist who has been steering the Republic of Belarus for 21 years.
      Well, or the ministers of embezzlement whom he appointed: guess who?
      Well, as an option, Putin / Obama, it is a choice to whom is closer.
      1. 0255
        0255 11 September 2015 00: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: prosto_rgb
        Probably the economist who has been steering the Republic of Belarus for 21 years.
        Well, or the ministers of embezzlement whom he appointed: guess who?
        Well, as an option, Putin / Obama, it is a choice to whom is closer.

        If you turn on the BT, they will say that the blame is on the Russian Federation, the USA, the EU, Ukraine, the unclean kamersants, the people, but not our "wise" leadership laughing
  31. lopvlad
    lopvlad 10 September 2015 20: 41 New
    0
    Quote: AdekvatNICK
    Who is to blame for the fact that the Republic of Belarus does not have money for its army?


    the one who proclaimed the independence of Belarus from Russia in the 90s. Since then, Lukashenko has been building his Belarusian nationalism whose goal is to drive into the brains of the young generation that Belarus is not a part of the great Russian people, but a separate people.
    1. Intrudeude
      Intrudeude 10 September 2015 22: 04 New
      +5
      in the 91st, in Viskuly gathered three pyantos and drank the Union. Lukashenko came to power in '94, Belarusian nationalism, de facto, does not exist in nature ... There are many problems ... but be sure there are no mankurts in Belarus, well, if only a little ... no more than a couple thousand pieces, within the margin of error. And about the "formidable" army ... I think that the task of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus in an attack is to hold out until the approach of the "big" brother, and not to defeat NATU alone ... the weight category is not that
    2. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 10 September 2015 23: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: lopvlad
      the one who proclaimed the independence of Belarus from Russia in the 90s

      And who say June 12, 1990 proclaimed the independence of the RSFSR? Also Lukashenko?
      Quote: lopvlad
      Since then, Lukashenko has been building his Belarusian nationalism whose goal ...

      Lukashenko is doing just the opposite.
      You obviously do not know that before his coming to power in 1994, about 2 MILLION residents of the Republic of Belarus planned to either expel from the republic, or leave with the status of non-citizens. Remind in which Baltic country exactly this situation?
      In addition, since 1996, the Russian language has received the status of the second state language, and in fact the first.
      How many lousy Yanukovych promised the status of the state of the Russian language in / in Ukraine?
      Well, + by the way.
      Teaching in schools is conducted exclusively in Russian, with the exception of the so-called "Belarusian-language schools" (about 5% of the total number of students, and even less.)
      Since 2011, textbooks on the History of Belarus and the Geography of Belarus for secondary schools / technical schools / colleges have been translated into Russian.
      So what about:
      Quote: lopvlad
      builds its Belarusian nationalism

      somehow not even funny.
    3. Douglas
      Douglas 11 September 2015 13: 12 New
      +1
      Lukashenko is building his Belarusian nationalism whose goal is to drive into the brains of the young generation that Belarus is not a part of the great Russian people, but a separate people.


      I agree with you, but this was born after the first conflict on oil, then the conflict with milk. Everyone probably remembers. Then, on electricity, then everyone remembers NTV films about Lukashenko. Here are the small sprouts that can sprout into a big tree. So proceed.
  32. luna333
    luna333 11 September 2015 02: 20 New
    -2
    Belarusians WILL NOT fight for RUSSIA in the event of a war, why do I talk so much that I myself communicate with Belarusians, there are more than 20 of them in my team from different places of Belarus and ALL THE BLACK TEST IS LOOKED at RUSSIA, and in the conflict RUSSIA AND UKRAINE completely and completely on the side of Ukroina, few tago they wish us defeat. communicate for more than 5 years and always different people (shift) of work in Japan
    told more than 50 people of Belarus they DO NOT BROTHERS the crossroads is a myth
    1. noWAR
      noWAR 11 September 2015 03: 00 New
      +3
      I haven’t called anyone Muuudak here yet and thought I won’t have to.
    2. Intrudeude
      Intrudeude 11 September 2015 10: 12 New
      +4
      But what is the conflict between Russia and Ukraine? In my opinion, a civil war is going on in the Donbass, as in the 36th year in Spain ... or do you have other information? and yes, we won’t fight for Russia ... we will fight for ourselves and our children, first of all. Because if there is no Russia, then there will be no Belarus, and all normal people perfectly understand this.
      1. 0255
        0255 11 September 2015 10: 45 New
        0
        Quote: IntrOudeR
        But what is the conflict between Russia and Ukraine?

        Our sons think that there is that Putin attacked Ukraine, and they are afraid of the arrival of polite people or Strelkov in Belarus. The Russian world is already associated with some of the "comrades" with the destroyed DPR and LPR, because the battles are fought in the region that wants to secede, and those who accepted the junta live in peace, at least for now.
        1. Intrudeude
          Intrudeude 11 September 2015 15: 03 New
          +1
          Well, the zmagars never differed in intelligence and ingenuity ... just remember their jumps with portraits of Bandera and Shukhevych in Minsk ... and how their police defended people from people)))
  33. Azovian
    Azovian 11 September 2015 09: 24 New
    0
    The issue of religion is the cornerstone. How many Catholics are there in Belarus? That's how they will fight, vote. The troops must fight, otherwise they will degrade. By the way, in Poland, the east, which was part of Russia, still does not vote in the elections like the rest of Poland. More "pro-Russian."