How to arrange a nuclear armageddon

The general conditions for entering the United States Armed Forces (AF) into a war were named in 1984 – 1986 by then Defense Secretary Casper Weinberger. Here is their summary.

First, the US armed forces should not start a war unless the vital interests of the country and its allies are at stake. What was meant by life interests? Weinberger explained this in the following way: “American interests are not carved anywhere in stone”, “we should never be tempted to determine the perimeter of vital interests”, “our vital interests can only be determined by us and our definition of interests”.

Secondly, the use of the US Armed Forces should be the last resort and should be made only after using the vital interests of the United States and its allies to protect the diplomatic and political. economic and other efforts. "We must never again use the forces of the United States in a war in which we do not intend to win," the head of the Pentagon pointed out.

Thirdly, to win a victory, it is necessary to use a sufficient number of forces with appropriate support.

Fourth, before entering the US armed forces into the war, it was necessary to clearly define political and military objectives.

In addition, before the US Armed Forces launched overseas, the US government had to enlist the support of the people and their elected congressional representatives.

Of course, the statement by the US Secretary of Defense to Congress about the conditions for launching the US Armed Forces in the war did not mention the American interpretation of the right to self-defense (in the form of preemptive use of military force) and that state survival is not a matter of law. Incidentally, with the end of the Cold War, the United States became ardent admirers of the laws and customs of warfare (for example, proportionality of the use of military force, the distinction between military and civilian objects), trying to impose its rules of the game based on the use of temporary advantages of the latest American military technology to potential opponents.

“Starting a war is easier than ending it,” an American American author of the Big Strategy study, John Collins, stated in 1973. Consider the features and problems of the issue of the termination of the use of nuclear weapons (CLP).

MYTH ABOUT IMPOSSIBILITY OF THE NUCLEAR WAR

Obviously, as long as nuclear weapons exist, there is the possibility of a nuclear war, which can move away or approach, depending on the prevailing situation. It is equally clear that a nuclear war, if it starts, cannot be infinite and should ever end. Putting your head in the sand, arguing that nuclear war is impossible, seems unreasonable.

In the US Department of Defense Nuclear Review 1994 of the year, it was said about "maintaining the possibility of a military conflict with the Russian Federation if a government hostile to the United States comes to power". The 2001 Nuclear Survey of the Year has already stated that "a military conflict with the Russian Federation is possible, but not expected." And in the next 2010 Nuclear Survey of the year, it is stated that “the threat of a global nuclear war has become remote”, while “the risk of a nuclear attack on NATO countries is at the lowest historical level”, and Russia and the United States are no longer “opposed,” and the outlook military confrontation in recent decades have declined. " However, in the report of the Secretary of Defense of the United States prepared in 2013 on the strategy of using nuclear weapons of this country, the following words were said: "The threat of a global nuclear war has become distant, but the risk of a nuclear attack has increased." If the risk of a nuclear attack on the US has increased, then the risk of the use of nuclear weapons by the US Armed Forces also increases.

At the same time, the US president has the sole right to use and terminate the use of nuclear weapons, guided by the interests of national security.

The primary interests of US national security are the survival of the nation and the prevention of catastrophic attacks. US nuclear weapons, in simple terms, are designed, firstly, to prevent a nuclear attack on their country, secondly, to “survive” their opponents during a nuclear war and, thirdly, to ensure the cessation of nuclear warfare for the United States. .

In a normal war, victory can be different. This is an "absolute" victory, accompanied by the complete surrender of the enemy. This is a “Pyrrhic victory”, becoming almost a defeat for the defeated opponent. This is a “nominal” victory, meaning for the loser to turn non-win into achievement.

In American political circles, it is generally accepted that victory in a nuclear war is impossible, but in the military spheres it is allowed to end the nuclear war only on conditions favorable to the USA. Here are some quotes from US official military documents of different periods.

“In the event of a strategic nuclear war with the Soviet Union, the United States should be able to force the Soviet Union to cease hostilities as soon as possible under conditions advantageous for the United States” (“Defense Minister Guidelines for 1984 – 1988 Financial Years” of 1982).

The range of capabilities of the US Armed Forces should provide for “large-scale destruction of the enemy’s military and economic infrastructure while at the same time minimizing the enemy’s ability to retaliate”. "Provide top management with a range of options designed to manage the escalation and end the conflict on favorable conditions for the United States and its allies." “The goal of the strategy to end the war should be to end the conflict at the lowest possible level of destruction in accordance with national interests” (“Doctrine of Joint Nuclear Operations” of the US armed forces 1993 of the year).

"End the conflict under conditions favorable to the United States and its allies." "The stage of ending the war may initially include the completion of nuclear activities, but not necessarily the completion of all aspects of the conduct of hostilities with conventional weapons." “The goal of the termination strategy is to end the conflict with the lowest level of destruction, achieving national goals” (the project “Doctrines of Joint Nuclear Operations” of the US Armed Forces 2005).

CONDITIONS OF TRANSITION TO PEACE

Judging by the cited provisions for the cessation of a nuclear ignited nuclear facility, a nuclear war should be stopped:

- on conditions favorable to the USA,

- at the lowest level of mutual destruction,

- at a possibly earlier stage,

- until the end of hostilities with conventional weapons or simultaneously with the end of hostilities with conventional weapons,

- in accordance with national interests in achieving national goals.

Favorable conditions imply that the enemy has more damage than the United States, the enemy’s ability to retaliate is limited, the United States retained a superior nuclear reserve to continue the pressure on the enemy by its center of gravity and vulnerabilities, the military-political leadership of the enemy realized the senseless continuation and the escalation of the conflict, the United States and its allies regained control of previously lost territory or captured part of the enemy’s territory. The smallest level of destruction is possible in case of refusal to defeat or to continue the defeat of objects of the economy. Termination of the NLP at the earliest possible stage of the conflict reduces the damage that could have been done over the entire period of the conflict.

Termination of the NPS can be carried out:

- after a demonstrative demonstration of the power of a nuclear weapon to the enemy (“signal” nuclear explosion outside / near / on the territory of the opponent);

- after selective (limited) use of nuclear weapons on the enemy, designed to play the role of the last warning;

- after or during a counter-force strike on the enemy;

- during or after a counter-strike against the enemy;

- after the completion of a joint counter-force and counter-critical strike on the enemy during subsequent nuclear operations.

Why after or during strikes?

After a demonstrative or selective strike short in duration, the enemy is given time to “think again”, weigh everything and everyone and decide either to negotiate or continue military operations under the threat of a counter-force strike.

A counter-force strike is manifold (it can be aimed at objects of all or individual subcategories of one or several categories of military objects) and differs in the duration of execution (one-time or in series of blows). With the sequence of its execution, creating a kind of “escalation”, the enemy gets an opportunity after completing each stage of such escalation and after finishing the assessment of the situation to decide on negotiations and to offer negotiations on the termination of the PNO. The same is possible after a one-time full-blooded counter-force strike.

With a counter-strike, its definite duration, consistency, and methodical approach to the destruction of objects in cities gives the enemy a chance to reduce damage with the earliest possible proposal to mutually terminate the NLP. A few examples of these options.

One of the memoranda of the year, 1974, said that in a limited nuclear war, the United States would seek to end it as soon as possible on terms acceptable to them and their allies, as long as its scale is as limited as possible. In 1981, US Secretary of Defense Harold Brown said that control over the NPL escalation was provided in order to ensure the prospect of ending hostilities before they escalate into a general nuclear war.

Sea-based ballistic missiles remain the main striking force of America.
Photo: Reuters

TIME FOR NEGOTIATIONS

In 1985, the American researcher Bruce Blair believed that “after the Soviet attack, even a large-scale attack, there would be a constant need to influence the decision-making process by the opponent to restrain the rest of his forces with intimidation or otherwise force him into restraint at that time when attempts are made to negotiate a truce. " He also mentioned the opinion of “many” that the strategic nuclear reserve should become a lever for such negotiations even after the exchange of strategic nuclear strikes, which would destroy a significant part of the population and economic resources of both countries.

Regarding the time of the beginning of negotiations on the termination of the NWP, the memorandum of the Chairman of the Committee of the Chiefs of Staff (NSC) of the US Armed Forces of 1969 is of interest. It follows from the document that negotiations on the cessation of hostilities “on the most favorable” conditions for the United States were expected after the United States launched a pre-emptive or retaliatory nuclear strike against three categories of objects (nuclear forces, military facilities outside cities, military forces and military resources) industrial facilities in cities), or a preemptive or retaliatory nuclear strike simultaneously against objects of two categories (nuclear forces, military facilities outside cities). And negotiations on the cessation of hostilities “on favorable” terms for the United States were expected after a preemptive nuclear strike by the United States against objects of one category — the nuclear forces of the USSR. In the latter case, Moscow could be excluded from the list of military facilities to ensure the survival of the Soviet leadership with the aim of negotiating. Negotiations with the goal of de-escalation would be envisaged after the selective use by the United States of several nuclear warheads to demonstrate determination to use nuclear weapons or to strike at the airfields of our Far aviation in the Arctic. Finally, negotiations were expected to cease hostilities after the selective implementation of the NATO SSP plan (for the option of delivering nuclear strikes only against the allies of the USSR, excluding objects on the territory of the USSR).

How did it become possible to stop using nuclear weapons at any time? At the dawn of the “atomic age”, in the 40 and 50 years of the last century, the United States only thought about how to start and wage a nuclear war. Plans for the use of nuclear weapons were drawn up by the types and even kinds of arms of the Armed Forces and changed with kaleidoscopic speed as the forces saturate with nuclear weapons. In 60-s, strategic offensive nuclear forces were created, a system of global operational management of these forces, a single plan for the destruction of strategic stationary objects with nuclear weapons for all types of Armed Forces (regional NAL plans were coordinated with it). A provision was put into effect on the automatic termination of the NZD after a strictly defined time for completing the nuclear strike plan. Then this practice received an addition. This supplement has expanded the president’s ability to manage a nuclear war. If earlier he could control the start and escalation of the PNO and was actually a hostage of plans, the flywheel of which execution was quickly and simultaneously stopped unrealistic, now he had the ability to manage also the de-escalation and termination of the PNO and gained confidence that his orders for de-escalation and upon termination of the NPL, they will be executed exactly and on time. The timeliness of communicating to the perpetrators of plans for a nuclear war an order to terminate the NWP has become just as important as bringing the order to the NWP.

CONTRIBUTION OF ADVISERS

As is known, the decision of the US President regarding the use of nuclear weapons is based on the advice of the Secretary of Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the commanders of the joint commands and the recommendations of the allies, and clear "orders for nuclear weapons are transmitted from the President and the Minister of Defense through the Chairman of the Joint Committee"

In order to formalize the presidential decision, it is necessary both the documents that regulate the compilation and distribution to the performers of orders relating to nuclear forces and changes in the level of readiness of these forces, and the authorities invested with the right to compose and send such orders. In the United States, the compilation of such documents is the Emergency Action Message Procedures (EAMP). This multivolume document defines: the procedures for the actions of the command center during nuclear operations; the order of compilation, signature, authentication and distribution of formalized orders for emergency actions related to the use of nuclear weapons; procedures for reporting on the use of nuclear weapons, etc.

The drafting of a documented and properly certified order for the use of nuclear weapons was assigned, even at the birth of the global operational management system, to the emergency section at the National Military Command Center and in the stationary and mobile emergency command and control centers of the United States. The transfer of orders for the use and cessation of the use of nuclear weapons from the section to the executors is provided for using modern and “ancient” types and kinds of communications of the operational management system.

In a nuclear war, the president leads the country and the Armed Forces through the surviving spare mobile and stationary command centers. Continuously summarized in such centers, reports on the progress of the implementation of plans for nuclear ignited nuclear installations (missile launches and bomb dropping), the results of the destruction of enemy targets (intelligence data), the extent of damage caused by the United States nuclear weapons (military and FEMA estimates) allow the president or his successor to see a general picture of the consequences of the exchange of nuclear strikes, to evaluate the success of each party’s actions, to come to a decision on the continuation of the PNO or on offering the enemy a truce (the decision on a unilateral demonstration effective termination of the NPL is considered unlikely).

Here, probably, it is time to recall the saying of the eighteenth-century American-French revolutionary Thomas Paine: “Only an idiot will oscillate between peace and the continuation of war, when it is obvious that peace will bring more benefits than even victory.” But in order to negotiate the cessation of the NPL, there is little desire of one side; such a desire must be shared by the adversary. At the same time, according to some researchers in the field of the “theory of termination”, one should not drive the enemy into a corner. The outcome of the negotiations should have been a decision to suspend or end a nuclear war.

In this regard, I recall an interview given by Admiral William Crow, then Chairman of the U.S. Chief of Staff Committee, to American Time magazine 1988: “I had several war games involving limited nuclear strikes, and in this hypothetical atmosphere very quickly on both sides there was a lot of pressure to stop using nuclear weapons. These were speculative games. But they show that our leaders understand the horrors of nuclear annihilation and will make strenuous efforts to avoid it. ”

In a non-nuclear war, a cease-fire can lead to a temporary cessation of hostilities (truce) or to their final end (armistice). In a nuclear war, termination of a NPL (cessation, termination) can be partial, temporary, complete, and final. A partial cessation of the NPL would be the suspension of nuclear strikes on certain geographic areas or on objects of certain categories and subcategories. A temporary complete cessation of the NPL would mean the suspension of the NPL for a certain period of time, followed by the resumption of the NZP or the subsequent conversion of the temporary complete cessation of the NZO to the final one.

RIGHT TO ORDER

Nuclear war spares no one, not even the presidents. The right to give an order to the NLP and the termination of the NLP in the event of the death of the US President, his removal from office or the inability of the President to fulfill his duties is used by his successor. The chain of succession to the successors of the US President begins with elected persons (vice president, leaders of the House of Representatives and the Senate) and ends with appointed persons (ministers). The existence of such a chain of continuity of power gives both parties, who have begun negotiations on the termination of the PNO, confidence that the negotiations are conducted at the proper level.

In one of our military publications in 1990, it was reported that the order of taking emergency measures and decisions of a military nature in emergency situations and in wartime is set by a special directive issued by each president: “As experience shows, in most cases the right to decide measures to ensure the security of the country (up to the use of nuclear weapons in response) in the event of the death of the president or lack of communication with him is given in order of priority to the vice-president, Nistru Defense, First Deputy Minister of Defense and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. " If this provision remains in force in our time, then it can be assumed that one of these four will also propose the start of negotiations on the termination of the NPL.

It is obvious that at the beginning of negotiations it is necessary to certify (with the help of predetermined methods) the identity of those entering into negotiations and to confirm their official position. In addition, in the negotiations, mutual conviction in the ability of the negotiating officials of both states to ensure the implementation of their joint decision to terminate the NLP is necessary.

It is clear that agreement should immediately be found regarding:

- the content of the nuclear armistice (will the termination of the NZP be partial or complete, temporary or final);

- the timing of the entry into force of the agreement (the time of issuance of the order to terminate the PNO and the time of commencement of the order for the executors to partial, temporary or final termination of the PNO);

- mutually informing each other about the progress of the process of termination of the NLP and on compliance with / violation of the regime of termination of the NLP.

The United States will also have to maintain contact with its allies who have or use national or American nuclear weapons.

MUTUAL SOLUTION

Mutual determination to terminate the NZD can turn into the will to do so only if the main parties to the nuclear conflict have a permanent direct two-way communication. Traditional ways to establish contacts to start negotiations (through diplomatic, trade and intelligence channels through third countries or through intermediaries in third countries) are not suitable because of the short-lived changes in the situation. It is no coincidence that, as early as in 1963, a closed direct connection was established between the USSR and the USA “for use in emergency circumstances by the heads of governments of these countries”, and since 1971, the improvement of direct communication lines between the USSR and the USA began. During the Cold War, the media once reported that there was one city in the United States and the USSR that were not allowed to strike nuclear weapons: through the means of communication installed there, the possibility of direct negotiations during a nuclear war was provided. Undoubtedly, the development of information technology should expand the possibilities of maintaining a direct connection of the heads of state in any conditions of warfare, and not only from the reserve national command centers.

The strategy to terminate the NPL in execution is complex both politically, militarily and technically. However, it provides for and provides solutions to many issues. It is impossible to exclude the circumstances when the adversary uses his political decision to terminate the NPL to prepare for the resumption of a nuclear war. It is impossible to exclude, at the appointed time of the truce, cases of unauthorized single or group use of nuclear weapons from one’s own side or from the side of the enemy due to weakening of military control over the demoralized consequences of nuclear war by personnel. Technical failures cannot be ruled out when, for example, a failed recall from a flight of an aircraft carrying a nuclear weapon would lead to a nuclear strike after an armistice and thus violate the regime for the termination of the use of nuclear weapons by one of the parties. It is impossible to exclude the case when one or several nuclear countries - allies of the United States refuse to terminate the NPL with their own national nuclear forces. Cessation of a NLP by two opponents requires each to maintain continuous two-way communication, iron discipline at all levels, mutual trust, mutual restraint, and, in possible isolated cases, unauthorized NLP by the enemy or on its own and unilateral tolerance subject to assurance from the wrongdoing country that such action.

STRATEGIC REPETITIONS

The system of operational control of the US armed forces (control is the setting of tasks from top to bottom and the presentation of reports from bottom to top) has existed for a long time and functions continuously.

In 2013, an authoritative US magazine covering the life of the Air Force reported that the United States Joint Strategic Command (USC) nuclear forces rehearsed “nuclear operations scenarios” several times a day for the teams of the United States Chief of Staff and the USC Global Operations Center (KNS conducts checks three times a day). USC nuclear forces also participate in periodically held “communications exercises at the strategic level”. In the 1993 year, a newspaper published in France published information that the US nuclear forces “ten times a day” are trained in actions related to the use of nuclear weapons.

During the hot years of the Cold War, all types of termination of the NPL took part in a certain percentage of such rehearsals by the US nuclear forces; this gave the participants confidence that, thanks to the established operational management system, such an order would be executed depending on the situation in a period of ten minutes to one or two hours from the time it was returned.

As you can see, in the United States they prefer to be prepared for what may not be, than not to be prepared for what might happen.

From the existing “rules of the game” among Americans, it can be concluded that they propose to wage a nuclear war on a limited scale, more civilized and more humane. Obviously, the limitation of the scale of nuclear war is caused, firstly, by a reduction in the number of strategic bombers, launchers of ICBMs and SLBMs (for example, from 2500 in 1990, in the USSR to 898 in 2015, in the Russian Federation), secondly, in a decrease in nuclear ammunition (The US military in 1990 had 21 392 nuclear warheads, 2014 left 4717 in the year), thirdly, by a multiple decrease in the megatonnage of the general and active nuclear ammunition of both countries, fourthly, the primary focus of nuclear weapons on nuclear military facilities (without US MB Which are lure for the strategic nuclear forces of Russia, a nuclear war would be transformed from a limited to a full-scale counterforce targeting with kontrtsennostnym targeting).

Civilization is ensured by the fact that the United States "does not rely on a counter-strategic strategy" and "will not intentionally target civilians and civilian objects." Humanity is expressed in the need for the United States to "apply the principles of distinction and proportionality and strive to minimize the collateral damage to civilians and civilian objects."

As nuclear war becomes more limited, more civilized and more humane, it is believed that the chances of early negotiations on ending the use of nuclear weapons to end it from a position of force are possible as soon as possible with the least destruction, casualties and other consequences. This requires the existence and improvement of the “Cessation Strategy” of the Strategic Nuclear Formation with its complex of predetermined and carefully developed measures. The implementation of a strategy for terminating a NPL is facilitated by the maintenance of technical means for negotiating, the availability of methods of entering into negotiations and negotiation, the advance preparation of agreement formats, the existence of procedures for issuing a presidential order to terminate a PNO, a system for ensuring that such orders are communicated to the executors, preparedness and the reliability of the executors of the order to stop the use of nuclear weapons, the survivability of the nuclear reserve.

“To govern is to foresee,” said Napoleon Bonaparte. It is unlikely that anyone will doubt the effectiveness of this situation in the nuclear age.

Comments

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Radiation does not spare anyone, so the Third World Nuclear War is a guaranteed death to all living things on Earth. And this war can take place until the nuclear arsenals are destroyed.

[Simon]

From this it follows that only a madman can start a nuclear war or. Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it.

[razzhivin]

Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it.

divan expertise - then those with more money (consider conventional heavy weapons) and / or people will come to global dominance ... speech - the USA, China, India and (m.) the Islamic world led by Pakistan ...

the fate of Russia (its territory with a population of about 30 million) is to supply raw materials and energy to these dominants ... by the way outwardly. the population may become similar to one of these dominants (due to the extermination of the male population) ...

soon you will see how something similar will be done with Ukraine ... the demographic decline is already coming, and debts are growing ...

such is geopolitics ...

[afdjhbn67]

the fate of Russia (its territory with a population of about 30 million) is to supply raw materials and energy to these dominants ... negative, by the way, outwardly. the population may become similar to one of these dominants (by virtue of

don’t you find that the figure looks more than strange?

[T-73]

Quote: afdjhbn67

Russia's destiny (its territory with a population of about 30 million) - to supply raw materials and energy to these dominants

if you’re used to standing with cancer, it’s not a fact that the others agree with you. The fate of Russia .... Demagogy

[bagel]

Quote: afdjhbn67

(its territory with a population of about 30 million) - to supply raw materials and energy to these dominants ...

But is it really not the number of working-age population of Russia at the moment?

"As of August 2010, the total number of workers replaced places in organizations (without small businesses) amounted to 36,6 млн man."

[LvKiller]

All "their" domination - only in words, just a divorce of suckers.

[hrych]

Yeah now, we must eliminate what is stronger than anything, and fight back from a billion Chinese on the eastern front, plus with a hundred and a million millions of Japanese, with a golden billion of NATO on the western front, and on the southern front with hundreds of millions of Islamists and we will fight with AK and artillery , aviation is not enough here. No, now we have the opportunity to burn everyone without exception, including the USA, within half an hour. Not only that, there was no big war for 70 years, only local ones and exclusively thanks to nuclear weapons.

[222222]

have there been nuclear wars on Earth ????

[drago36]

Minus because REN-TV likes "to estimate the male genital organ to the nose" as they say

[anton197103]

read Shemshuk's book "The Death of the Last Three Civilizations", coincides with the materials of this TV show.

[Baikal]

Interesting, 222222, like there is education, you know how to write ... Let not competently, but you know how - and still believe in fortune-tellers and fortune-tellers? In this short video, a large number of freaks are collected that shave people into the brains with their conspiracy theories and the Ancient Tsivilizatsy (s) ...
Such illiterate believers in horoscopes like you then go to the Maidan.

[222222]

Baikal (3) SU Today, 15:38 ↑
“Do not judge, lest you be judged, for with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with what measure you measure, it will be measured to you also ... "
.. the Gospel of Matthew. Matthew 7: 1-6. Do not judge your neighbors ....

[T-73]

Of course. Will everyone suddenly become pacifists? So far, the only thing that holds the world back from realizing the scenarios of Mad Max is nuclear weapons. Look sensibly. Only the answer holds them back. It interferes with their vital interests. As if we have no interests. We are not exceptional. Minus

[GRAY]

Quote: Simon

From this it follows that only a madman can start a nuclear war or. Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it.

Bullshit, moreover, impossible bullshit. Firstly, there are no guarantees that the nuclear powers do not find out about a hundred charges on a rainy day or that non-nuclear countries do not produce their own nuclear weapons.
In addition, there are countries such as Israel that unofficially have nuclear weapons.
And this is also a great American dream - to take away a nuclear club from Russia, because we can’t cope without NATO and its satellites, they are stupidly more.

[Aleksander]

Quote: Simon

Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it.

What do you think, how long after this liquidation will YOU be eliminated? I think, in a very short time ....

[avdkrd]

Quote: Simon

From this it follows that only a madman can start a nuclear war or. Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it

The nuclear arsenal of Russia (USSR) is the only reason that there were no wars on the territory of our country after the Second World War.

[andj61]

Quote: Simon

From this it follows that only a madman can start a nuclear war or. Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it.

The Americans would simply be happy: nothing would stand in their way to world domination. Moreover, even China and India have very vague prospects for confronting the United States - you can always put pressure on these countries - economically, politically, by military means, and if you are intransigent, simply destroy them. Russia really has a prospect - only to supply raw materials and food to the world market. Nuclear weapons are a guarantee of our independence.

[Imperialkolorad]

Quote: Simon

From this it follows that only a madman can start a nuclear war or. Therefore, nuclear arsenals must be eliminated so that there is no temptation to use it.

I am ashamed to believe in fairy tales at a conscious age. No one will voluntarily give up weapons of such power, they will only prevent other countries from acquiring nuclear potential.

[Finches]

The Americans are a nation with high technology and children's consciousness! They dropped bombs on Japanese cities not because they were so bloodthirsty, but because they were curious what would come of it, and of course, to show Uncle Joe who was pissing on the wall above!
Therefore, such a person as Obama, feeling impaired pride, when they report to him that even in his own country Putin’s rating is higher than his own, can be squeamish and begin to suit the Armagedets! Only the understanding that retaliation will inevitably stop these militant, American kids from the oval office!

[mitya24]

Very smart and to the point! Concisely expressed the basis of US foreign policy.

[hrych]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

Radiation does not spare anyone, so the Third World Nuclear War is a guaranteed death to all living things on Earth.

No exaggeration. Only as tests more than 2 thousand nuclear explosions were conducted and nothing. Almost all explosions will be airborne, as the most effective in terms of damaging factors, and they are environmentally friendly and do not infect even the epicenter of the explosion. But thermal power plants on coal have been continuously smoked for the last 50-100 years, and coke is also used for steelmaking, but the smelly pecifists paid by the State Department will not tell you that soot and ash of coal contain radioactive uranium and not only. A pipe and a wind rose, the ideal particle size of soot ideally affects the lungs and years from childhood, and then I wonder where asthma, oncology, etc.
The average uranium content in coal is 3,6 g / t.

[max702]

Quote: hrych

No exaggeration. Only as tests more than 2 thousand nuclear explosions were carried out and nothing. Almost all explosions will be airborne, as the most effective in terms of damaging factors, and they are environmentally friendly and do not infect even the epicenter of the explosion. But thermal power plants on coal have been continuously smoked for the last 50-100 years, and coke is also used for steelmaking, but the smelly pecifists paid by the State Department will not tell you that soot and ash of coal contain radioactive uranium and not only.
The average uranium content in coal is 3,6 g / t.

Come on? But nuclear weapons will be used in deserts, tundra and other sparsely populated areas. Tell me, dear man, what will happen if, for example, they destroy Zaporizhzhya NPP? How many reactors are there? Let me remind you in Chernobyl the roof of ONE reactor was leaked! Little did not seem to anyone! And then all strategic points and resources will be hit! What will happen when chemical plants, hydroelectric power stations and other facilities of increased danger are destroyed? Tell me, who will then restore and remove the consequences of these attacks when everything and everything is destroyed around, there will be no infrastructure or material means to solve these problems .. Will it resolve itself? Let me remind you, had it not been at the peak of opportunities under Chernobyl, then life in Europe would be a big question now ..

[hrych]

Do you know who suffered in Chernobyl? Yes, only the liquidators suffered, it is stupidity to leave people for slaughter. The contamination zone was then within a radius of several hundred meters, the village of power engineers would have been evacuated and thrown as it is, especially since most of the radioactive material has already scattered. In a ground nuclear explosion, the contaminated mud rises for kilometers and infects the area downwind until all falls out, and here the explosion, although it ripped off the roof, raised the mud 50 meters in height, well, everything around fell apart, so what? The most unpleasant thing is contamination of groundwater and removal into a large river, but this is so slow and scanty that it can simply be neglected. But Western propaganda and as an argument in the information war during the collapse of the USSR clearly worked, since you are still saying such things, although in Fukushima all the blocks were scattered, along with the flooded storage of nuclear materials, where there was more nuclear slurry than in the taking off reactors. And Japan did not die, and you have already buried all of Europe because of a couple of tons of lousy uranium. Where is the media howl about Fukushima? Silence? Do you know that the rest of the Chernobyl power units continued to work and provide energy almost until recently and nothing? 100 years pass and the abandoned (lost) city is eaten by nature, there is a good docfilm "Life After People", even thousands of years are not needed, a couple of hundred years and nothing will remain of human heritage. And that when using conventional weapons, during carpet bombing, chemical plants bypass, but no, the first target. Thinking about the restoration of infrastructure by the enemy, then you don't have to start a war, take and surrender right away and substitute your backside, this is your Pozifist tolerance ...

[T-73]

Quote: hrych

Do you know who suffered in Chernobyl?

I know. These people need to bow to the waist. Dropped at the cost of his life. Ukrainians do not appreciate, and Belarusians, too. and do not write nonsense like

Quote: hrych

in Fukushima, in general, all the blocks scattered, together with a flooded storage facility for nuclear materials, where there was more nuclear slurry than in take-off reactors.

however, for the yellow press will do. Especially about Chernobyl))))

[hrych]

These people, of course, must be bowed, but those who sent them there should simply be shot. The exclusion zone there is only 30 km, and 10 times overstated for reinsurance. A bunch of equipment, including helicopters, was irradiated and they had to be abandoned ... just dumbness. Now the main thing is so for the development of isotopes:
The deadly isotopes of uranium, plutonium, iodine-131 (half-life - 8 days), cesium-134 (half-life - 2 years), cesium-137 (half-life - 30 years), strontium-90 (half-life - 28 years) .
Firstly, if people were sent for elimination, then in 8 days, when the main isotopes would decay and 134 people of the liquidators simply would not receive radiation sickness. In April there will be the thirtieth anniversary of the accident and the last cesium, which already will fall apart. EVERYTHING.
In Fukushima washed away in storage, I repeat not in blown up reactors, 2000 tons nuclear materials. Chernobyl is just resting, there is only a leak = then from 2 to 10 tons, and here ... here and count whose press is yellow and erysipelas ...

[andj61]

Quote: hrych

In April there will be the thirtieth anniversary of the accident and the last cesium, which already will fall apart. EVERYTHING.

You yourself write - the half-life period - that is, half of the cesium-137 that was thrown away 30 years ago still remains. And there is still a mass of isotopes, in particular plutonium ...
All this, of course, is not fatal - here and now - but with time it leads to death much faster than in a natural way.

[hrych]

After 30 years, half, after 60 years, from half to half, i.e. a quarter, after 90 years, one-eighth of the original amount and so on, isotopes do not disappear so easily, but they decay en masse primarily in the first cycle, and even if they initially have a lethal concentration, then organisms can cope with it. Plus, if it is contaminated soil, then the concentration naturally decreases, washed off by atmospheric precipitation, is carried away by the wind, in some fish you will find traces, but it will not be fatal to the fish, and especially to those who ate it.

[T-73]

Quote: hrych

The exclusion zone there is only 30 km, and 10 times overstated for reinsurance

Not reinsurance. Everything is justified. Yes, and people live there, cats and dogs too. There is simply a concept of security. They are some of the toughest in the nuclear industry. At one time, a teacher in electrical engineering asked: "Why is electricity dangerous?" Do you think you know the answer? Maybe. So - radiation is also not visible. And it has a long lasting effect. And indicate the source about
2000 tons of belay nuclear materials.
There are spent fuel transfer ponds, but these are "wells" 25 meters deep and 6 meters in diameter. and cooling pools - not far away in size, although larger. NO NPP in the world has 2000 tons of nuclear materials. Just physically. Nothing leaked at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Was released into the atmosphere. As for Fukushima, cooling water spreads out that is dumped bluntly from above. And there are millions of tons. They are digging their own grave. Obviously to everyone - the Japanese regulations let themselves down. The backup diesel generators were not launched in time - they are for accidents, not for generating electricity. Ours analyzed the arrival. There is experience and brains. Our specialists then (I don't remember, but you can search) said that the issue was solved in connecting the cables. You just had to cut the ends and connect the cable with twists. The sockets did not match))) And now even nuclear physicists have no idea what kind of melt under the reactors. The robots were ruined only.
And I'm not a nuclear physicist. Flattering, of course, but not true) and erysipelas are the most common. I think it's worth it to be mutually polite.

[hrych]

I'm actually about the little faces of the Japanese, which were originally a yellowish tide. What did you think about?

[T-73]

As I read it, I thought so. It happens)

[max702]

What nonsense are you .. The impact of this muck comes out not today and tomorrow, but after tomorrow in the third and fourth generation, and yet how do you imagine the elimination of the consequences? Who will do this and how? There is no fuel, there is no electricity, everywhere foci of infection, massive fires (remember 2010 there were peat bogs burning there), bridges, communications, no communications, and much more that we used to not notice in everyday peaceful life are destroyed .. And going to all of this full In the course of a military conflict, everything is with everyone .. Or do you think that they pulled into each other and it all ended? Yeah, wait a minute! The massacre will be mass, complete anarchy and lawlessness .. something similar to one thousandth of a percent is likely to be seen in Ukraine in a couple of three years ..
pc: Review the movie of a letter from a dead man, there’s a real picture of a nuclear fox ..

[hrych]

Of course, you can only navigate through films, then it's better to watch Mad Max. Firstly, the race was imposed on us and there is nowhere to go, secondly, we are winning the race and if they cannot advance in the near future at the hypersonic speed, we will be able to destroy them with impunity. And what will happen to them, we should not worry much, the worse the enemy, the better for us. There will be no chaos, because there will be martial law and alarmists go to the expense. The Donbass showed that despite the losses and constant shelling, people continue to farm, mine coal, children go to school, the infrastructure is maintained, there is no chaos, on the contrary, crime is falling, military order and curfew. The continuation of further hostilities after the total exchange of nuclear missiles is simply impossible, for the reasons that you have mentioned, primarily because of = lack of fuel, the equipment will get up in a matter of days, because Oil refineries will be destroyed, and thousands of distances for crowds of pedestrians, for example, Chinese with clubs, cannot be physically overpowered. No absolute Apocalypse will take place, large cities will be destroyed, and small towns and villages will remain unharmed, no one will fall down in the Stone Age, so progress will be hindered no more, in five to ten years, industrial potential will revive according to the needs of a fairly thinned population.

[Vadim237]

We have Rosrezerva, they are protected from the effects of nuclear strikes there, and fuel and machinery and equipment and much more - we will survive.

[mitya24]

And you tell this to the Chernobyl victims, who left their health in gas masks bulky sarcophagus.

[T-73]

Quote: hrych

No exaggeration.

Tell you about dirty bombs or google? We windmills and abandon coal.

[hrych]

Dirty bomb - utter nonsense, at least a little understand the essence of the matter and understand yourself.

[T-73]

How many people - so many opinions. Dirty bombs are not bullshit at all. It all depends on the purpose of the application. That’s the whole point. And take better care of your enlightenment. It won’t hurt you. And for the ATP link, I’ll read it for sure. But LJ is not an authority for me. There are interesting blogs - no more.

[hrych]

Also check out such material, only besides 104 nuclear power plants, they need to load the reactors of 11 aircraft carriers, 12 Ohio boats and more heaps of multi-purpose ...
http://aftershock.su/?q=node/31580

[T-73]

Old record. Nothing can be ruled out, it was a troubled time, they won't tell us the truth, and I didn't really want to. I would be surprised if it suddenly turns out that our "certain" services were on the sidelines. Yes sold, even the price appears, there is a lead time. "Regular" sales contract. And then there are icebreakers. On vigorous fuel. Forgot to mention. I have not been on aircraft carriers, I will not lie. But on our icebreakers - beauty. They are fed for slaughter. Piano in the crew wardroom. Well, that's what he and "Soviet Union". The radiation situation - no violations. All is not lost, Hrych!)

[hrych]

So read the article, it is not necessary for everyone to be nuclear physicists, but it is useful and intelligible for education.
http://mikle1.livejournal.com/1639429.html

[andj61]

Quote: hrych

Almost all explosions will be airborne, as the most effective in terms of damaging factors, and they are environmentally friendly and do not infect even the epicenter of the explosion.

The mass of explosions will be ground, and even buried - special charges for the destruction of underground bunkers and launchers), underwater. There will be plenty of radioactive contamination, and if you add to this the man-made accidents against the backdrop of a nuclear war - and such are inevitable - little will seem to anyone.

[hrych]

When they acted on a leaky Gorbachev head and his associates, farmers in the Central Committee, showing cartoons about SDI, there was a small episode with Pershing-2 that he allegedly buried in the ground and a humpback in a shelter kayuk. This is just a cartoon and that's it. Technically, this is not possible. If you know that not so long ago (before the war in Iraq), in order to hit Saddam's bunkers, such a bomb was created, they were blotted from the barrel of a 200 mm gun, for strength, so as not to collapse when they hit the surface, they beat TNT manually, we could dig into the unfortunate 30 meters, that's all. Allegedly, for acceleration, a rocket accelerator was attached to the bomb and supposedly up to 60 meters deep, which is doubtful and naturally stated that they are working on equipping it with a low-power edrenny charger, which again is doubtful. One way or another, this bomb must be dropped from the plane directly onto the bunker, i.e. the bombing aircraft should appear, for example, right above the Kremlin, which is utopia. This state of affairs with deepening at this moment. And if a TNT mass and a primitive fuse do not grunt when it hits the surface and 50/50 trips (which it was), then I'm afraid the technologically complex and delicate nuclear warhead will grunt when it hits the surface and will not explode.

[Vadim237]

In the USA, now they again started working on the isomeric bomb, maybe in the future some of these studies will work out.

[T-73]

Quote: andj61

those are inevitable - little will not seem to anyone

from the word at all.

[T-73]

Quote: hrych

Almost all explosions will be airborne, as the most effective in terms of damaging factors, and they are environmentally friendly and do not infect even the epicenter of the explosion

Also say that they will be useful. I repeat once again - the type of explosions will depend on the target. We rush to heartburn. It will be a war of DESTRUCTION.

[Amurets]

And why, then, the ash dumps are not processed for Uranium? The gold content of 2g / t makes the deposit profitable. Rich deposits contain from 0,3% uranium ore in waste rock and then Uranus238, and here such a "gold mine" for Uranus. No need to talk nonsense. If there are rare earth metals in Sakhalin and Suchansk coals and germanium, the Japanese recycle ash dumps. There was a case when these coals were replaced by others that were not inferior in calorific value but other deposits, the Japanese immediately made claims. I do not know more cases of processing ash dumps for metal mining. And the fact that you refer to the tests, they took place far from densely populated areas of the planet. To say that ash and soot from a thermal power plant is radioactive tails is ridiculous and stupid. The main harmful substances in the emissions of thermal power plants are silicates. These are the main sources of oncology and other diseases.

[hrych]

http://cor.edu.27.ru/dlrstore/ee705cc6-a37b-7161-f7e2-b6961f6437d5/24-29_02_2006
. Pdf
Maybe the doctor of science got it wrong ...

[hrych]

Still here with tables of contents
http://www.proatom.ru/modules.php?file=print&name=News&sid=4326
According to American experts [17], the global total uranium and thorium emission from coal combustion is about 37 tons annually, with about 300 tons coming from the United States.

In brown coals in the Kemerovo region in the Itatsky layer, an increased uranium content of 139 g / t was detected, and in the ash and slag material formed during the combustion of such coal, the uranium content was 902,6 g / t [18].

[222222]

0. Is a nuclear war between the leading nuclear powers possible at present?
-Yes-50%
-NO-50% ...
1. Nuclear war is a planetary problem.
2. The consequences of this war for living on Earth are not predictable.
3. The task of the UN to prevent this threat ..
-create an international scientific group of the UN companies to assess the consequences for the Earth with different uses of nuclear weapons ..
issue to bring to the UN session

[T-73]

Quote: 222222

The UN's task is to prevent this threat ..

Do not make me laugh.

[Alexander_]

Exactly chatter. It seems that the UN is no one at all. Ukraine, for example, Yugoslavia ... They gagged themselves, "our business is the side, deal with the states yourself, they are the main ones."

[222222]

T-73 (3) RU Today, 10:13 ↑
The UN's task is to prevent this threat ..
Do not make me laugh."
..... ..
We look forward to September 2015 .. and then we'll see .. ...
...... "" "" "The President of the Russian Federation will speak at the 70th annual session of the General Assembly of the United Nations, reports the Russian News Service.

According to the radio station, in addition to the Russian leader at the session, which will be held from September 15 to 22, 2015 in New York, US President Barack Obama, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani will speak.

The fact that Vladimir Putin can speak at the opening of the anniversary session of the UN General Assembly for the first time became known at the end of March 2015. However, sources close to the circle of the President of the Russian Federation then emphasized that final clarity on this issue would come only at the beginning of August - everything would depend on the international situation.

Help "SP":

Vladimir Putin has previously spoken from the UN rostrum in 2005, 2003 and at the 2000 Millennium Summit. In 2003, the Russian leader noted in his speech that not everyone had yet realized the seriousness of the terrorist threat, and expressed the hope that the UN would become "the base for the global anti-terrorist coalition." In 2009, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev spoke at the General Assembly. In subsequent years, Russia was represented by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. "" "" "" "
..more than .. before such an event of the NATO Air Force in Europe ..
.. From October 3 to November 6, 2015 the final exercise “Trident Juncture 2015“ will be held at NATO Allied Forces in Europe
NATO has not conducted such a scale exercise since 2002.
The exercise will be held on the southern flank of NATO in Italy. Portugal and Spain., The Atlantic Ocean, the Mediterranean Sea and the governing bodies in Canada. Norway. Netherlands, Belgium and Germany.
The exercises in levels and forms of conduct are spaced out in time.
- from October 3 to 16, command post exercises for strategic and operational
levels. Staff training, testing and certification. Attracted participants from the European Union and the African Union.
- October 21 to November 6 exercises with the participation of troops. .for the tactical level of the participants.

[T-73]

The UN in fact has little effect on it. As an international rostrum to leave assemblies and others ... it is impossible. But the authority of the organization is now very low. In fact, it comes down to patting yourself in a holster - so that you remember what it might turn out to be. As an organ of example and justice - I already said

Quote: T-73

Do not make me laugh.

[kotvov]

issue to submit to the UN session,
are you so naive

[222222]

kotvov (2) SU Today, 16:27 ↑
issue to submit to the UN session,
are you so naive? "
..what naive everyone is .. they recognize some right. in the territory..
"The UN recognized the rights of Russia to the enclave of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk
15 March '14 4:28

The Russian shelf includes an area the size of a small state. The UN Continental Shelf Commission officially handed over to the Russian Federation on Friday, March 14, a document recognizing the Russian continental shelf of an enclave with an area of ​​52 thousand kilometers in the middle part of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. "" "

[222222]

Video General Ivashov in the program "military secret! .. Nuclear war between Russia and the United States"
http://playreplay.net/video/97865.96b8ab1d496b0adfdc16be823fa8[media=http://play
replay.net/video/97865.96b8ab1d496b0adfdc16be823fa8]

[222222]

[media = http: //ok.ru/video/37626710581]

"" "" "Dead hand"
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/krasnaya_zvezda/content/201502181414-gskc.htm
"Dead Hand" on the guard of the perimeter of Russia
18 February 2015, 15: 00

[kot28.ru]

In my opinion, ICBMs with nuclear warheads are currently the only thing that keeps the arrogant Saxons from war with Russia! In the case of a war using conventional weapons, human losses will be less, but still noticeable, since some species may compete in destruction With TNW! And then, partisan wars, cleansing of those who disagree with the occupation regime, the Germans also wanted to civilize Russia-the USSR, only the Slavs were destined for the fate of slaves on their land! So, while Russia has rockets besides the army and navy, I sleep peacefully !

[WKS]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

Radiation does not spare anyone, so the Third World Nuclear War is a guaranteed death to all living things on Earth.

The most catastrophic for earthly life is not a radioactive infection, but atmospheric pollution with aerosols (dust). At high altitudes and vast areas from the use of several thousand thermonuclear charges dust clouds will soar. Such an atmosphere will prevent sunlight from penetrating the earth's surface. Complete purification of the atmosphere will last more than one hundred years and only those organisms that adapt to hunger, cold and darkness will survive.

[Vadim237]

This is only if all this dust and ashes fall into the stratosphere, but for this to get the dust there, charges of more than 1 Megaton are needed, and now we and the USA have almost all charges from 50 to 500 kilotons.

[WKS]

Quote: Vadim237

and now we and the USA have almost all charges from 50 to 500 kilotons.

The nuclear unit on the 15Zh65 rocket has a power of 550 kt. The height of the dust emission is ~ 18 km. In addition to direct emissions (from nuclear explosion energy), significant pollution will also occur from continuous fires of cities and forests as a result of the formation of so-called fiery tornadoes that will throw smoke and soot to a height of 30-50 km. Cities like San Francisco, New York, New Orleans, St. Petersburg, Moscow and hundreds of other such and slightly smaller cities will burn for weeks after nuclear bombings. Puffs of smoke swirling over them, swirling into huge tornadoes, blowing all these products of combustion to the uppermost layers of the stratosphere.
It would be nice for us to never see this.

[Vadim237]

The stratosphere starts at an altitude of 21 kilometers, an explosion of 550 kilotons will throw there a maximum of 100000 tons of dust and soot - if this explosion is ground-based, now for greater efficiency, part of the charges has an air blast, and with such an explosion the emission of dust and soot is minimal - we take a small calculation of all US warheads of 1680 units, we multiply by 1 megaton and calculate the area of ​​destruction of our country, if all the warheads hit the target, we take the radius of destruction the maximum from a bomb with a capacity of 1 megaton is 30 kilometers, along with fires, we calculate the area that is 706.5 square kilometers, we multiply this area for 1680 warheads we get the area of ​​destruction and fires of 1186920 square kilometers, we divide this area into the area of ​​the territory of Russia 17125680 kilometers per square, we get that all these 1680 warheads are each 1 megaton - destruction and fires will affect only fourteen and a half part of the entire territory of our country. But since there are no megaton charges in service, this area of ​​destruction must be divided by at least three — and what end of the world are you talking about? By the way, fiery tornadoes form only on flat terrain and cannot exist in modern urban conditions, and even more so cannot raise soot to a height of 20 kilometers — this is physically impossible. In one year, forests burned on an area of ​​1200000 kilometers squared for a month and this did not lead to any nuclear winter. Nuclear winter is a fictitious chimera in order to prevent the use of nuclear weapons by countries they possess.

[WKS]

Quote: Vadim237

Nuclear winter is a fictitious chimera in order to prevent the use of nuclear weapons by countries they possess.

So boldly apply? Australians will survive and the Papuans of New Guinea too.

[Alexander_]

Yeah, radiation is a bloated myth, but we do USB sticks, computed tomography, and nothing, we are alive :-) The other day we showed tearing skin after irradiation. An explosion over a million-plus city, 200 kilotons of several charges in different places, so what?

[hrych]

During an air explosion (more than 90% will be just that), when the luminous area does not touch the ground and the dust does not rise anywhere. Rather, soot from subsequent fires, but this is such a trifle. Volcanoes are constantly smoked in a much larger volume and nothing. Nonsense about nuclear winter, radioactive contamination, etc. spread green, homopocyphists, which are kept by the State Department. When we were the first to detonate not a device with a two-story house (like Teller), but a full-fledged hydrogen bomb, we have since taken the lead in nuclear technology, and then thanks to Sineva, Voevoda (heavy), Ur-100, unpaved Topol (without M ) and BZHRK, the USSR won the race in delivery vehicles, they could only answer Trident. Since then, realizing the impossibility of winning the race, the CIA took up financing all non-delivering soldiers' mothers, etc. Now we have the whole line again (so far without BZHRK, but so far), but with maneuvering BBs, they are the same, only already rusty Tridents. And again the Nazi howl rises, naturally paid.

[T-73]

Quote: wks

only those organisms that adapt to hunger, cold and darkness will survive

So nothing threatens us. Geyropeytsy themselves no longer understand how Russians live without tulips, sprats, new BMWs))) 3 times, cheese and jamon. Cross out all of the above - we only need a gas mask. Naturally meaningless and useless when there is

Quote: wks

radioactive contamination

but there is a desire to survive. )) That's right, WKS

[Vadim237]

Nor will there be any death to all living things - remember Chernobl, the emission of radiation as from 600 bombs dropped on Hiroshima, nature is rampaging there and life is not going to stop.

[Alexander_]

Everything will be OK, the actual nuclear explosion lasts only a microsecond, and we won't notice :)

[T-73]

Vadim, do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. When (and if?) The exchange of blows begins, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant with a controlled (and suddenly become uncontrollable) nuclear reaction will seem like a nice harmless tale. In which EVERYONE wants to believe.

[Vadim237]

Everything will be fine, they will only hit military facilities, well, Moscow and the Moscow Region will be completely destroyed, there will be numerous fires, fire tornadoes, but it will not burn everywhere, two or three weeks after the nuclear exchanges end, the government will distribute food and troops and the Ministry of Emergencies will sort out the rubble to establish contact with all who survived, border countries like Kazakhstan and China can help, but I hope that I will not be affected by hunger and fires, because I have a 3-year NZ in the event of such a catastrophe - and life will continue, but in different conditions.

[T-73]

I’m afraid to seem ridiculous, but they will not cover Moscow at all. They will cover the Urals in the first place - there’s nothing even to doubt. Uralvagonzavod just fall under the distribution. It is enough to break the country and lose control. Moscow is not the goal. One iPhone more or less ....

[Vadim237]

It’s just about Moscow that they will be hitting in the first place - here the General Staff, the center for command and control of the East Kazakhstan region and the troops, the government, although by this time it will dump, in the area of ​​the ABM mine and radars, and everything else will be left over.

[Amurets]

Are you either stubborn or stupid? I explain. If the reference signal disappears from a special control center (NUCLEAR CASE), the sensors of the guaranteed retaliatory strike will trigger and an uncontrolled nuclear war will begin. If you are interested in details see: Guaranteed Retaliation system. (Black hand) .It is on the Internet.

[Ladoga]

Will you be a cancer patient and that is at best. And this is not in a warm room, but already in different conditions.

[Vadim237]

I have means of protection from radioactive dust and a two-level basement of 400 square meters with everything you need for 3 years, and I advise you to study nuclear physics and nuclear explosions in general, their damaging factors in terms of explosion power - we all believe in bullshit, about Nuclear winter and the end of the world from radioactive fallout, from ignorance.

[Passer]

You all argue whether radiation is so harmful to health, or vice versa - useful.
What do you want to do to hunt and experience the correctness or fallacy of your judgments on yourself or your loved ones? Or do you forget that the main victims of nuclear strikes will be among the civilian population? Have you forgotten that one of the main tasks in delivering a nuclear strike, the Americans set the destruction of the largest possible number of people, to reduce the mobilization resource? Nuclear strikes, in order to achieve maximum efficiency, will be delivered not at military facilities (which are also well prepared for this), but at places of compact residence of people (Moscow, St. Petersburg, Nizhny Novgorod, Novosibirsk, Rostov, etc.), industrial centers means of communication.
You can continue for a long time. Want all this? If YES, then continue to think about: well, nonsense, this is your nuclear bomb.

[Vadim237]

To decide whether or not to start a nuclear war depends on the top, oh not on us.

[Passer]

Quote: Vadim237

To decide whether or not to start a nuclear war depends on the top, oh not on us.

I agree, it's not for us to decide. But to console oneself with thoughts that after a nuclear strike is not so bad is at least stupid.

[Vadim237]

It will be bad for us and the USA, but in other countries everything will remain as it was - their entire infrastructure will survive.

[Rus2012]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

Radiation does not spare anyone, so the Third World Nuclear War is a guaranteed death

it is deadly, first of all, "to the princes of darkness - who own this world." They want to live and not deny themselves anything, and at the expense of the rest of the world. This is a deep, insurmountable contradiction ...

The fact that YaV is not such a terrible beast is written here -
5 facts that Russia is preparing for a conflict with the United States and will win the upcoming nuclear war
http://agitpro.su/5-faktov-togo-chto-rossiya-gotovitsya-k-konfliktu-s-ssha-i-pob
edit-v-gryadushhej-yadernoj-vojne /

In a new commentary, Michael Snyder of The Right Side News debunked the assumption that, given the doctrine of “mutually assured destruction”, Russia is not inclined to consider entering into a nuclear conflict with a country that today is considered the only superpower - with the United States America.

On the contrary, Moscow is ready for any turn of events - including the conduct of real hostilities, Snyder writes. It is possible that Russia will do everything possible to prevent the development of the current tense relations with the United States in a murderous conflict, but this country is also not inclined to retreat.

There are clear signs that the Kremlin is more than ready to wage war at any time, and if the war begins, the Russians have very high chances of victory.

The following are five evidence in favor of the above view:

Russia will spend 540 billions of US dollars to further build up its military power

According to Snyder, Moscow is ready to finance the most expensive weapons modernization program in modern history. In the period from 2016 to 2025, Russia's defense spending may reach $ 540 billion US dollars.

The goal is to increase the country's versatile capabilities, both in the event of a war using conventional weapons, and in the conditions of modern warfare, including the possibility of delivering cyber and nuclear strikes.

[andj61]

Quote: Rus2012

According to Snyder, Moscow is ready to finance the most expensive weapons modernization program in modern history. In the period from 2016 to 2025, Russia's defense spending may reach $ 540 billion US dollars.

And the United States spends more annually!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: ya.seliwerstov2013

Radiation does not spare anyone, therefore

Dima’s question is controversial, for example, the microbe deinococcus is not at all sensitive to it, or take the tapinambur plant for example ... the same cockroaches! and with regards to man, this is the main parasite on the Planet, and in theory She should have shaken him off like a flea dog for a long time ...

[Alexander_]

Similarly, fleas on Earth do not belong.

[Ladoga]

Yes, no question - take it and shake it off!

[siberalt]

The United States is afraid to attack even North Korea, which is really there to dream of.
But the residents of Odessa put on their president and in the center of the city they installed the composition "dogoshvili"

[Tor5]

And what? Very original and true!

[EvgNik]

"" From the modern "rules of the game" existing among Americans, we can conclude that they propose to wage nuclear war on a limited scale, in a more civilized and more humane manner. "
The very use of nuclear weapons is not humane, so there can be no talk of a "humane" nuclear war. The use of atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki without retaliation has turned the heads of the states too much. They hope that having inflicted maximum damage on Russia will remain unanswered. In vain. This will be the last thing in life that they can do. After that, North America simply won't exist. I think so.

[Armored optimist]

It used to be that nuclear war was the end of life on earth. Many illiterates still repeat this mantra. But, unfortunately, this is not so. Unfortunately, because the prospect of a nuclear war does not scare politicians. Do not rush to minus, think - the American marines were in Nagasaki a week later. The Japanese began to restore both cities almost immediately. There was no large-scale evacuation of the survivors. Radiation after a nuclear explosion decreases faster than during infection from accidents at nuclear power plants, a year later in Hiroshima and Nagasaki the level was equal to the background. There are more isotopes from a nuclear power plant with a long half-life.
Now there is an understanding that there will be no nuclear winter. It was calculated for the beginning of the 90s, when there were more charges and for the distribution of most of them in Western Europe. Young politicians and the military did not live in an atmosphere of nuclear fear.
Summing up, we can say that a nuclear war does not seem terrible to the current rulers and commanders. Unfortunately

[B.T.V.]

Quote: armored optimist

Now there is an understanding that there will be no nuclear winter. It was calculated for the beginning of the 90s, when there were more charges and for the distribution of most of them in Western Europe. Young politicians and the military did not live in an atmosphere of nuclear fear.

Understanding may be, but there is no certainty. It seems to me that, having the confidence that after the nuclear bombing there would be nothing terrible, nuclear weapons would long ago cease to be a deterrence weapon.

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Quote: B.T.W.

NW would cease to be a deterrent weapon long ago.

You can’t say more precisely.

[Alexander_]

It is impossible to apply it first; Obama can.

[Vadim237]

Nuclear weapons have not yet been used, not because it can lead to some terrible global consequences, but because it can instantly kill tens of millions of people both in Russia and in the United States - that's why it is deterrent.

[razzhivin]

that's why the stuffing is going on - let's disarm further along the nuclear line ... now Japan has come ...

[Aleksander]

Quote: armored optimist

Radiation after a nuclear explosion decreases faster than during infection from accidents at nuclear power plants, a year later in Hiroshima and Nagasaki the level was equal to the background. There are more isotopes from a nuclear power plant with a long half-life.

Two bombs in Japan destroyed 220 thousand people. Power of accumulated nuclear weapons-in millions of times exceeds the power of those small bombs. How many hundreds of millions will it destroy? It will not be a nuclear winter, it does not matter, because there will be nobody to worry about this and no one will restore new Hiroshima. Radiation is not as bad as destroyed chemical plants, storage facilities, oil refining, etc. - even their small accidents today lead to victims and mass evacuations, what would happen if they are massively targeted destruction?

[Alexander_]

"It used to be that nuclear war was the end of life on earth. Many illiterate people still repeat this mantra."
In order to know exactly, only a check in kind will show. What to call life ..

[SibSlavRus]

"As nuclear war becomes more limited, more civilized and more humane" ???
I can not say with confidence that I understand this.
This statement should be attributed to the sixth generation of wars (bypassing the fifth, with nuclear weapons) the use of high-precision weapons, and charges that are not inferior in power to nuclear weapons, but without radiation damage.
As far as I know, the concept of "global massive non-nuclear strike" is currently prevalent in the United States. And plans to apply across the Russian Federation from the north, at ultra-low altitudes, within up to 90 days. It was there, in the north, that we had problems intercepting their missiles. This indirectly confirms the forcing of events to militarize the northern directions on our side.
What is most interesting is that all this is during the formation of the western, southern and eastern "fronts", zones of instability on the borders of the Russian Federation, the diversion of forces and resources of the Russian Federation to local conflicts on these "fronts." Those. they are going to beat us again in a crowd when the main blow will be the last in a series of events, and through the latest military technologies.
High-precision weapons are highly effective against nuclear weapons platforms. But we are working very successfully on this with a view to refuting it.

[alicante11]

"As nuclear war becomes more limited, more civilized and more humane" ???
I can not say with confidence that I understand this.

the Americans just by their missile defense and "global strike" made the conduct of "limited" nuclear weapons impossible. Taking into account these injections, the only scenario for the use of nuclear weapons by Russia can only be massive. Therefore, delights with a "warning" nuclear explosion are complete nonsense.

Also, I would not discount the catastrophic nature of nuclear war for humanity. If one could sit back from the consequences of a nuclear war, say, in New Zealand, then the West would have used nuclear weapons long ago. They do not care for the billions of the dead, the main thing is that they all have a bunch.

[gregor6549]

How to arrange? Yes, very simple. Continuing stupidly to roll barrels at each other exhausted from the impotence of his fearlessness. It was already there, but even Khrushchev and Brezhnev and their foreign partners had the mind to stop in time. Is there enough mind now a big question. So far this abundance has not been observed on either side. With what kind of heartfelt condolences to all of you.

[Vadim237]

The worst thing is that no one is prepared for a nuclear conflict, to ask any passerby what dangerous level of radiation is for a person? - no one will answer.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Vadim237

The worst thing is that no one is prepared for a nuclear conflict, to ask any passerby what dangerous level of radiation is for a person? - no one will answer.

question: what for? how to prepare don't be ridiculous ... (just don't remember about shelters and "ozk"!

[Vadim237]

At least as I am - to create my own NZ.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Vadim237

create your own NZ

"buckwheat - stove - ruzhbayka"?

[Vadim237]

Why, gas masks GP 21, three walkie-talkies - one walkie-talkie scanner, several batteries, 4 portable solar panels, several lights, two tents, 20 sets of clothes, an electric stove, water filters, a set of medicines, two industrial laptops, two dosimeters and so on, not counting the products and everything else - this is my NZ, and you?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Vadim237

GP 21 gas masks, three walkie-talkies - one walkie-talkie scanner, several batteries, 4 portable solar panels, several lights, two tents, 20 sets of clothes, an electric stove, water purification filters, a set of medicines, two industrial laptops, two dosimeters, etc., not counting products and everything else - this is my NZ

... three suede jackets, three movie cameras ..

It reminded me of the immortal Bulgakovskoe: "and if a bullet hits you in the head. very will help?"

Quote: Vadim237

and you

PM with one cartridge .. ugh! .. not with one .. ugh !! .. not PM ..

Joke

Vadim, I’m from you .. just delighted ..

[Vadim237]

If a bullet hits my head, others will use all my supplies, most importantly, in case of emergency, everything is ready.

[Alexander_]

Which side of cones is shocking, but is it giving out free cookies?

[Ladoga]

And I, gregor6549, heartily condolences to you! I see how many minuses you have, reading many comments, it is impossible not to notice that as if many got mad, yes, how many odotiks and what their odotikhs gave birth! The radiation of a nuclear explosion is compared with, "sticks," (fluorography, presumably), with computed tomography, without completely understanding anything about it. They write that there is nothing supposedly terrible there, not knowing that the hibakusha (victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki) died in what torment, as their descendants also die from cancer and other diseases caused by genetic disorders from radiation exposure. They compare people with fleas, which it is time to shake off the planet, they themselves do not consider themselves as such. Moral pleasures ...

[Amurets]

I support it completely. Henry Ford once said: "The hardest punishment for a person is to think." And it seems to me that many of our pacifists should be subjected to this punishment.

[stayer]

The Americans are also trying to establish their own rules. And they agree to conduct negotiations on the termination of the NWF with conditions favorable to the USA. Those. if the conditions are not favorable, then there is no need to talk about any termination. Here it is necessary to translate into Russian. This means that the enemy has realized the strength and power of the United States, and bowing his head surrenders. As was the case with Japan at 45m. Accordingly, it becomes a US colony with all the ensuing consequences.
However, for some reason the Americans always think that the enemy will act exactly as they have written in the plan. This is the main miscalculation. In the case of a real war, for example, the Russians do not always act in terms of ordinary logic. And the fact that Amers invented themselves there is not at all a fact that will work. I am sure that it will not work at all. All the rulers and military leaders who attacked Russia also counted everything to the smallest detail, but for some reason the Russians did not know these plans and layouts and acted according to their own rules. The result is known. Think amers, think ...

[Armored optimist]

Let them learn to play chess. Acting as if deciding for both sides.

[T-73]

Quote: stayer

Americans are trying to establish their own rules here.

When was it different? Indians will confirm.

[razzhivin]

“We should never again use the forces of the United States in a war in which we do not intend to win,” the Pentagon head said then.

how often do they forget about it ...

[razzhivin]

Civilization is ensured by the fact that the United States "does not rely on a counter-strategic strategy" and "will not intentionally target civilians and civilian objects." Humanity is expressed in the need for the United States to "apply the principles of distinction and proportionality and strive to minimize the collateral damage to civilians and civilian objects."

pure propaganda ...

trying to powder the brains of the liberal public, why do they need so many nuclear and other "farts" ...

[Alexander_]

The Japanese are grateful to them for their humanity. East is a delicate matter..

[Barakuda]

The population of the Planet has not "grown" yet, there will be no vigorous bomb and everything else, there will be sticks and stones ..

[Volzhanin]

Russian people, as always, have nothing to lose, much less than the geyropets and geymerikos.
Therefore, we are always ready to go to the end! This is our main military secret!
These unfinished sons are going to fight with anyone at all? With never defeated Rusich?
Even the frostbitten Alexander of Macedon understood where he should not go and set off low in the kitchen gardens towards India.

[Barakuda]

This is our main military secret!

And also Eshkin the cat, Yadrena louse and Plaque-fly Well there Sidorova goat, a sledgehammer ..

[Alexander_]

I read it once, in military equipment we have a lack of technology offset by the quality of engineering. Everything hangs out, as in a Kalashnikov assault rifle, and therefore works perfectly. Sledgehammer is a great tool))

[Amurets]

The Americans forget about the "Black Hand" God forbid they damage the security center, an uncontrolled nuclear war will start. We and the United States have such retaliatory strike systems. Presidential "Nuclear Suitcases" will not be needed. Everything will be done automatically. And the answer will be unambiguous for the United States. This is how this system is designed.

[Vadim237]

But the United States is actively developing and increasing the number of missile defense systems, and we have a sluggish little in this direction.

[Alexander_]

We put down the vigilance of the enemy.

[RiverVV]

Either the author is stupid, or naive, but most likely both. He really believes that the nuclear conflict can be stopped and that it can be limited. As in the movie "Terminator 3": a top view of the planet, funny ICBMs fly, from time to time fungi of atomic explosions grow on the surface, everything is pretty and in general there is a fairly large chance of not even seeing the fungus.

In fact, the ICBM either manages to take off, or it is destroyed in the mine. Therefore, in principle, there are no separate combat launches. The Strategic Missile Forces have been fighting for ten minutes. During this time, they manage to use up 99% of the ammunition. At the eleventh minute, they will start to cover the blow of the enemy. The entire third world war - half an hour from the force. And one should not think that some neutral countries will remain. All potential allies, all raw materials, financial and industrial centers - everything that can ensure the continuation of the war will be attacked. No neutral Switzerland, Vatican, Ceylon, Argentine and other Honduras ... There will be nothing left of the word "absolutely".

That is, the finale of the third "Terminator" can be easily put under the credits: on the dark side of the planet, many bright lights are simultaneously lit. They burn for several minutes, then go out. 5-10 minutes pass and a wave of bright flares, bright like electric welding, burning from 1 to 20 seconds passes from north to south. Then they go out and the clouds are beautifully highlighted with red. Within 20-30 minutes, there are a couple of hundred more flares all over the planet.

And that’s it, the war is over. No robots, no internet, no black lords of America. After 5-10 years, firearms go out of fashion everywhere.

[Vadim237]

If there is a war, it will affect only Russia and the United States - we will iron over each other, and NATO countries will immediately step back from the conflict and will not participate in it.

[kotvov]

and NATO countries will immediately withdraw from the conflict and will not participate in it. ,,
and what do you just drink? the blow will be dealt to all the bases of sashka. and in Europe they are like cockroaches in a poorly defectized house.

[Vadim237]

In the event of a tense situation, all these bases may be asked to dump, in harsh form.

[Ladoga]

Yes, perhaps you're right - the article is similar to paranoid balabolstvo. Or, at least, sheer cunning, like - let’s wet each other with nuclear strikes, but it’s commensurate, as it were, until it is completely destroyed, and when I (we) feel like it, we will stop, but on conditions favorable to me (us). But now I want to ask: who will negotiate and how and at what point will we stop when there is an intensive exchange of nuclear strikes with the sole purpose of inflicting maximum damage to the enemy?
The author of the article is either paranoid (hidden), or mr @ h and sYka finished.

[DobryAAH]

Some fantasies and wishes of Americans. A signal nuclear explosion near our territory? Yeah, we’re already afraid. Are we going to clap our ears? Will they do more damage and end the war? Have they counted already? We’ll just burn them along with volcanoes and mountain systems. The huckster has one option to escape: dump in New Zealand before the conflict begins.

[Amurets]

It won’t help! RiverVV Explained why. I won’t repeat it. But I will say that after such American stupidity, the planets of other solar systems, if any, will be suitable for humanity to live. Such is the reality.

[Vadim237]

Only some territories of Russia and the USA will be unsuitable for life in a nuclear conflict, other countries will continue to live on and correct the consequences that we will give them.

[Alexandr2637]

"have there been nuclear wars on Earth before ????"
TV channel RenTV. And that's it...

[new communist]

First, the US Armed Forces should not start a war unless the vital interests of the country and its allies are at stake. What was meant by vital interests? Weinberger explained this as follows: “American interests are not carved in stone anywhere,” “we should never give in to the temptation to determine the perimeter of vital interests,” “our vital interests can only be determined by us and our definition of interests.” - Well, until 2020 The interests of the country will not be much worse, but in January 2020, NATO’s interests will have to seriously defend the most effective method, the simultaneous thermonuclear strike against Russia and China, and begin a new world arrangement. Armogedon will not be.

[new communist]

There will be no Armogedon - thermonuclear war will be only in the northern hemisphere, there will be no strong radioactive contamination, it is enough to divide all the radiation in the nuclear charges of the whole world by the surface area of ​​the earth and oceans, the maximum natural background will increase by 15% from the present. In the event of a surprise strike, the American elite can easily be saved, for this there are bunkers, comfortable sea cruise liners accompanied by ACG off the coast of Chile, amer aircraft will not suffer much from our retaliatory strike, it will have time to take off, and at an altitude of 15 km nuclear explosions will not so scary.

[Vadim237]

In the future, the United States will have full means of delivering warheads and nuclear weapons to our territory, for the shortest period of time it is X 37, X 51, FHTV 2 cruise missile planning warhead, hypersonic reconnaissance aircraft SR 72 and HCV 2, plus continuous improvement and an increase in the number of missile defense systems in 2030, all this will be feasible.

[Amurets]

You are our dreamer. Did you create a thorium bomb? As far as I know, uranium and plutonium are used in nuclear weapons, and this is 20 years of infection in the territories where weapons will be used. And do you seriously think that the power regulators of the explosion will stand to frighten the enemy? You are mistaken. Maximum power will stand to guarantee the destruction of the mine. And this is not 20 kilotons of Hiroshima, but 2-20 megatons. And not two explosions in three days, 2000 explosions within half an hour. Now consider what will happen. For information: Four hours after the Chernobyl accident, the radiation protection at the nuclear power plant in Sweden went off. And the Swedes immediately discovered that they were dangerous radiation level and where did it get to them. And you think that the wind will not blow radioactive clouds all over the planet? Naivety.

[Vadim237]

All charges with a capacity of over 1200 kilotons were removed from armament both in our country and in the United States.

[Tektor]

From the states, little remains if you undermine three 100 mt of ammunition on the yards of New York, Savannah and Seattle. The radius of the complete destruction of each is more than 1000 km. Unfortunately, communications and radar will disappear throughout the northern hemisphere for about an hour. During this hour, it will be possible to deliver special charges and explosive EMG to the desired points on drones (well, or GZLA), and undermine the fact that the missiles reached the points or the fact of the launch. After the restoration of radio communications, it is advisable to have electronic warfare equipment near the starting positions of the state ICBMs, in order to deviate them from the trajectory towards the Russian Federation.
And modern thermonuclear ammunition is much cleaner than used in 45 g, when only a small part of the nuclear charge participated in the chain reaction, and the main part was atomized and created a radioactive background. Therefore, infection can only be expected if nuclear power plants are attacked.

[Vadim237]

In modern nuclear (thermonuclear) charges, mainly lithium hydrides 6 are used, and either uranium or plutonium serves as a "fuse", but there are few of these elements in such bombs and the principle of fission, but synthesis, in which the yield of decay fragments is minimal, from three-phase bombs they have already refused, and they just corresponded to capacities from 5 to 25 and higher Megatons in TNT equivalent, now work is underway to create the next generation of thermonuclear weapons, where hydrogen synthesis will not be carried out with the help of uranium or plutonium, which means the bombs will become even cleaner in the United States again began work on the creation of an isomer bomb.

[RiverVV]

Well, the third world definitely has one plus: the troll population will rapidly decline.

[Vadim237]

It will not work, just the Internet will stop working, which is very good.

[gregor6549]

I will repeat myself once more for the brave and smart. All nuclear missile weapons are good only as a means of mutual deterrence and not as a means of achieving victory in a war. As soon as it is applied by one of the main rivals i.e. Russia or the United States can forget about all the victories. there will be no winners in a full-scale nuclear war between them, and any other won will quickly develop into a full-scale one. All this was simulated more than once in the 70s and 80s, and the simulation results were always the same: full of all life on planet Earth. Not immediately, of course, but for a fairly short time. It was the scientists of the USSR in those years that the term "nuclear winter" was introduced into circulation. Whoever is not familiar with such a term, let him google and find it. And it was precisely the impossibility of achieving victory in such a war that prompted the leadership of the USSR and the United States to put on the brakes then. even then, all the specialists came to the conclusion that no missile defense system would protect anyone by 100%, and the number of warheads that break through will be enough to turn the Earth into a smoking radioactive ash. Moreover, not only nuclear weapons but also all other types of weapons of mass destruction will be used. Add complete chaos to the rescue. services and get an oil painting. Therefore, minus lovers can give me as many minuses as they want, but no amount of minuses can change the essence of the problem. Well, there is no need to look for the reasons for the escalation of tension only over the hill. They themselves also have a stigma in the cannon, especially those who, in the name of a personal rating, a warm place, or sheepskin coats acquired by back-breaking labor, are ready to fight to the last citizen of their country.

[Vadim237]

The power of the charges and their number are not the same as when simulating a nuclear catastrophe in the 70s and 80s, in such a conflict only the United States and Russia will suffer, all other countries will live on, but with a worsened environment.

[gregor6549]

E1e

Quote: Vadim237

in such a conflict, only the United States and Russia will suffer; all other countries will live on, but with a worsened environment.

Another misconception. If the war between the US and Russia begins, no one will stand aside. And even those who decide to sit out will not be able to sit for a long time. with the destruction of the main sources of food resources, a scuffle will begin for the remaining crumbs. Plus the nuclear winter that I mentioned, which will reduce crops to zero, etc. Read more at https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Winter

[Vadim237]

Do not wake any nuclear winter, we and the USA have 900 Megatons of warheads at most "http://army-news.ru/2015/06/yadernaya-zima-mif-ili-obektivnyj-prognoz/

[provincial]

in the concept of the United States, the point of action in defeating the country was not highlighted. They were confident in their victory. It was already in the history of aggression against Russia.

[NordUral]

Maybe you just shoot yourself, and not blackmail the whole world? Think arrogant Saxon ub_lu_dyki.

[Lelek]

(Secondly, the involvement of the US Armed Forces should be the last resort and should only be done after diplomatic, political, economic, and other efforts are used to protect the vital interests of the United States and its allies. “We should never again use the US forces in a war in which we we don’t intend to win, ”the Pentagon head pointed out then.)

Well, so this is the quint-essence of the Anglo-Saxon megastrategy - rake in the heat with the hands of allies and vassals and squeeze profit "to the last drop." There is nothing new in the current US policy - the same tone and the same faces.

[Asadullah]

From the current "rules of the game" among Americans, it can be concluded that they offer to conduct nuclear war on a limited scale, more civilized and more humane.

Is it just my brain can stand? Humane and civilized nuclear strikes .....

As I understand it, the Americans are delivering a "warning nuclear strike on Novaya Zemlya. And then on what? On Nevada? After that we sit down at the negotiating table ... it is time for humanity to give way to some raccoons, or sparrows ..."

[Concealer]

Judging by the pace of escalation in the press, we have every chance of finding out what is the order of ending the PNW. But I'm afraid there will be no one to tell. Because the survivors will tear the participants in the events, and literally tear them apart. A nuclear war, regardless of its "limitations", is also a death sentence for the governments involved. No bunker will save the survivors.

[Vadim237]

Anyone who survives a nuclear war will not be up to those who started it.

[Bayonet]

“We should never again use the forces of the United States in a war in which we do not intend to win” - hence the choice of the enemy.

[gammipapa]

Yes, the training manual is old, they will choose and make decisions ... Yes, as they arrive in response to the snot, so scatter through the basements like rats. Wars are bad, it’s guaranteed to fly

[kostyan77708]

[quote = Passer-by] You all argue whether radiation is harmful to health, or vice versa - useful.
What do you want to do to hunt and experience the correctness or fallacy of your judgments on yourself or your loved ones? Or do you forget that the main victims of nuclear strikes will be among the civilian population? Have you forgotten that one of the main tasks in delivering a nuclear strike, the Americans set the destruction of the largest possible number of people, to reduce the mobilization resource? Nuclear strikes, in order to achieve the greatest efficiency, will be delivered not against military facilities (which are also well prepared for this), but against places of compact residence of people (Moscow, St. Petersburg, Nizhny Novgorod, Novosibirsk, Rostov? But what about phishington, new York , London, paryzh and others like them ??

[Vadim237]

There is another problem - we are capable of delivering a nuclear strike against the United States with a total capacity of 1050 Megatons, but the United States against us with a total capacity of 2500 Megatons is a tangible difference.

[hrych]

Not a damn thing they can for us:
http://ru-an.info/новости/слухи-о-ядерной-мощи-сша-сильно-преувеличены/

[Vadim237]

Of course - especially after that "The article used materials from Internet blogs and social networks" - that says it all. I can say the same about our nuclear forces whose warheads are also 30 years old.

[hrych]

First of all, according to Minutman and Trident, the true truth is that the Cold War rockets are indisputable, by stealth you already know, in fact, the analysis is verifiable and logically transparent, according to our carriers, accordingly, we have a line of new missiles, including new nuclear submarines. And on charges
http://aftershock.su/?q=node/31580