How and what Japan will storm the Kuril Islands of Russia

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The last 2 of the year, Japan is actively getting rid of the restrictions associated with the armed forces, and imposed after the defeat in World War II. In April, 2014, the country's government lifted the ban on arms exports. Now Japanese companies will be able to export military products if, in the government’s opinion, this does not contradict Japan’s interests. For example, recently it became known that Japan will develop a piece of software for the export version of American destroyers equipped with an anti-missile defense system (ABM) Aegis. In July, 2014, the current Prime Minister’s government, Shinzo Abe, passed a resolution allowing the use of the Japan Self-Defense Forces not only in attacking the country, but also in the event of an attack on the Allies, and with a serious threat of such an attack. In July, 2015, the Japanese Self-Defense Forces was allowed to participate in hostilities outside the country. In fact, the pacifist article 9 of the Constitution of Japan, which prohibits even the presence of armed forces, is now completely destroyed. By the way, Shinzo Abe, who served as prime minister from 2006 to 2007, even then tried to formally amend the constitution, but could not gain support for the necessary two-thirds of parliamentarians (as a result, the constitution remained unchanged from 1947).

What does this mean for Russia, given Japan’s territorial claims regarding the southern Kuril Islands, and what is the balance of power?

First of all, it is necessary to pay attention to the naval and air forces of the two countries, so the hypothetical collision will go beyond the island territory.

Japan

The Japanese Navy is a pretty serious force. The 3 helicopter carrier is in service - the 2 of the Hyug type and the 1 of the new Izumo-type, resembling the ill-fated Mistrals. Available are 37 destroyers with guided missile weapons, of which 6 are equipped with the eponymous American combat information management system and the Aegis missile defense system; 6 frigates with anti-ship missiles (RCC) Harpoon; 16 submarines of the type "Litter" and "Oyaso", armed with the same Harpoon American anti-ship missiles, with a range of up to 150km. All listed ships are in excellent condition and released relatively recently.

The Japanese Air Force is also quite strong, with heavy F-200 fighters armed with 15, Mitsubishi F-60 2 fighters based on the light F-16 American fighter. The 42 F-5 fighter, ordered by 35, can be planted on helicopter carriers in a vertical take-off version, turning them into light aircraft carriers.

Russia

The Kuril Islands are protected by the 18th machine gun and artillery division, located on the "Japanese" island of Iturup. This unit has been significantly strengthened in recent years, 62 are in service tank T-80BV, Buk-M1 anti-aircraft missile systems division, the latest Tor-M2 air defense systems, some artillery and other weapons. Sakhalin, located nearby, is protected by the 39th separate motorized rifle brigade, but the range of its weapons and air defense does not allow it to actively participate in the defense of the Kuril Islands. In the near future, the Bastion coastal systems equipped with Onyx supersonic anti-ship missiles capable of hitting enemy ships at distances up to 300 km and the Pantsir-S air defense system will be transferred to Iturup. Buk-M1 air defense systems will be replaced by Buk-M2, and Ka-52K attack helicopters in the marine version will appear on the island.

As for the Pacific fleet (Pacific Fleet) of the Russian Navy, it is armed with a Project 1164 missile cruiser, with 16 most powerful supersonic anti-ship missiles P-1000 "Volcano" with a flight range of 700 km. At the same time, anti-ship missiles launched by the enemy’s fleet exchange information with each other about goals and select priority ones. Only 5 destroyers are in service (large anti-submarine ships). Everything else is small warships and missile boats. The situation with the submarine fleet is more interesting: here there are 5 strategic nuclear-powered missile submarines (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese), 3 nuclear submarines of Project 949A Antey carrying 24 P-700 Granit anti-ship missiles, close in characteristics to the P-1000 - this is perhaps the most formidable weapon TOF. There are also 4 combat-ready diesel-electric submarines of the 877 project, which also have RCC.

Aviation, concentrated about 1000 km from the Kuril Islands in the 22nd and 23rd fighter aviation regiments. It is constantly being updated; there are already 72 Su-27SM / Su-30SM / Su-35 heavy fighters. In general, in quantity we are inferior to the Japanese.

Conclusions

1. In carrying out lightning operations, the Japanese Armed Forces for some time will have a noticeable numerical superiority both at sea and in the air. As a result - the destruction of the same coastal complexes from the air is possible.

2. To neutralize the threat from the air, an interesting move would be the deployment of the long-range C-400 air defense missile system on Iturup.

3. The composition of the Pacific Fleet against the background of the same Japanese fleet causes sadness and melancholy - a good half of the ships are not capable and are under repair or are on the verge of decommissioning. In Japanese, all the ships are new and in large numbers, perhaps our advantage is only noticeably more powerful supersonic anti-ship missiles, whereas the Japanese Navy has only subsonic ones, and even with a smaller range.

4. New militarization of Japan is a serious headache for Russia, and so surrounded by enemies from almost all sides. Strengthening the grouping of troops in the Kuriles and Sakhalin is a heavy necessity, as is at least some update of the Pacific Fleet.

5. Let's not forget about the US Navy 7 fleet, based in Japan and having an aircraft carrier, 2 missile cruisers, 7 destroyers, 3 nuclear submarines and other ships. And this is a completely different force, against which there is no other way than the use of at least tactical nuclear weapons.
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  1. +15
    28 July 2015 05: 33
    It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.
    1. +23
      28 July 2015 05: 47
      How and what Japan will storm the Kuril Islands of Russia
      - Is it too categorical? that they, the fugu fish, ate themselves? we will sink the island, nafig! wassat
      1. +37
        28 July 2015 05: 56
        we’ll sink the island, nafig!

        Due to the compact location of their islands, this is a very convenient target for our strategic nuclear forces. Hokkaido will burn first.
        1. 0
          28 July 2015 06: 41
          62 tank T-80BV is in service

          Not understood. All T-80 in the sun were going to be written off in 2014.
          1. +6
            28 July 2015 06: 47
            80 only in 2009 came to Sakhalin Oblast, before that 55 were so that they obviously would not be written off
            1. +8
              28 July 2015 08: 11
              In 1976, he watched as the T-34 was removed from armament.
              1. 0
                26 July 2017 15: 32
                I saw a tank train from Germany in Moscow, so there they were in the first line of breakthrough and defense, and the ISs were, and you are talking about 76. I served 87-89.
          2. +6
            28 July 2015 10: 33
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            Not understood. All T-80 in the sun were going to be written off in 2014.

            The 4th Guards Kantemirov Tank Division somehow forgot to report it. smile

            http://topwar.ru/68114-4-ya-gvardeyskaya-kantemirovskaya-diviziya-tankovye-strel

            by-na-podmoskovnom-poligone-u-alabino-29-yanvarya.html
            In 18 pool T-80 came to replace the antique T-55AM.

            T-80s in the aircraft are operated until the resource is exhausted. 61 BTRZ in Strelna is engaged in their repair.
            1. 0
              26 July 2017 15: 34
              Does Omsktransmash not deal with them?
          3. +2
            28 July 2015 13: 39
            Quote: Eugene-Eugene
            Not understood. All T-80 in the sun were going to be written off in 2014.

            While the replacement is done, while they deliver, while the old ones are written off, 10 years will pass.
          4. 0
            28 July 2015 16: 18
            all T-80 tanks were transferred to the BBO (eastern military district)
          5. 0
            17 July 2017 13: 24
            equipped with Onyx supersonic anti-ship missiles capable of hitting enemy ships at distances up to 300km wassat author -> author -> author burns .... not knowledge of TTX immediately translates the article into the "for cheburashka" section
        2. +5
          28 July 2015 08: 42
          Japan, to your knowledge, possesses some tactical nuclear weapons. Given their proximity to our main centers in the Far East, it is becoming strategic.
          1. +15
            28 July 2015 10: 43
            Quote: akribos
            Japan, to your knowledge, possesses some tactical nuclear weapons. Given their proximity to our main centers in the Far East, it is becoming strategic.

            They will use it only if they are very stupid people.
            After that, we’ll simply incinerate them together in their Fuji.
            And do not forget about Fukushima. hi
            ps According to the article ..
            There, Japan has not yet settled everything with China, where it should get in touch with the whole world.
            In short, if they attack Russia, it will be from Japan a difficult version of the mass seppuku.
            1. +3
              28 July 2015 15: 45
              they say smart Japanese. and if they are smart, then why is the mountain called a pit?
              1. +1
                28 July 2015 17: 48
                In order to call the mountain a "pit" you have to stand on your head.
            2. +4
              28 July 2015 18: 47
              Quote: THANK YOU ALL
              In short, if they attack Russia, it will be from Japan a difficult version of the mass seppuku.
              the master will only say "must" as the vassal will answer "is". do you think Japan is a completely independent state, given the presence of an "occupation corps" on its territory?
            3. 0
              26 July 2017 15: 37
              People live in the Far East too. They will be sorry.
          2. +1
            28 July 2015 16: 06
            Really shol? but where does the information come from? figured it out myself?
          3. 0
            28 July 2015 19: 27
            So after all it is written above that we’ll sink the island (a).
          4. +1
            28 July 2015 21: 13
            Quote: akribos
            Japan, to your knowledge, possesses some tactical nuclear weapons. Given their proximity to our main centers in the Far East, it is becoming strategic.

            Given Japan’s proximity to the alleged theater of operations, it becomes suicidal rather than strategic, add the inevitable answer and about Japan and the Japanese in the future they will only learn from historical books ...
          5. 0
            28 July 2015 21: 24
            Quote: akribos
            Japan, to your knowledge, possesses some tactical nuclear weapons. Given their proximity to our main centers in the Far East, it is becoming strategic.

            Japan never possessed nuclear weapons, and what is in storage belongs to the United States. Although they have special treaties, I doubt that the United States wants to set a precedent with the transfer of nuclear weapons for military operations.
            However, do not forget that all Japanese officials always deny the possession of these weapons.
          6. +1
            29 July 2015 07: 29
            Japan has a problem in the form of a Tu-22M3 regiment, armed, including with nuclear weapons, as well as territory in which it will not be possible to hide.
            Therefore, any tough step on their part is a risk of losing the whole country.
            Moreover, on a domestic, non-political level, the overwhelming majority of Japanese people do not want to fight not only with Russia, but with anyone at all.
            Now militarization is actively spreading in Japanese society (see the theme of cartoons, for example), however, this does not negate the vulnerability of the country, which is still under US ACCUMULATION. And the goal, apparently, is one - the defense of the struggle for resources.
        3. +16
          28 July 2015 08: 45
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          we’ll sink the island, nafig!

          Due to the compact location of their islands, this is a very convenient target for our strategic nuclear forces. Hokkaido will burn first.

          First, another "analyst" will suck the problem out of his fingers (in their opinion, half the world is ready to "attack" Russia even tomorrow).
          Then another "strategist" begins to frighten at the top of his voice the use of nuclear weapons and immediately declare that Russia is the most peaceful country in the world.
          To whom and what do people want to prove this?
          Who pisses higher on the wall?
          1. +13
            28 July 2015 08: 59
            Kuril Islands defended by the 18th machine gun and artillery division


            We remembered about tanks and machine guns on the island, it’s good, but why didn’t we take into account

            strategic aviation?

            Far East has bases with strategists, and there are dozens of cruise missiles

            And what, are the Japanese ready to put their cities under attack?


            Sapporo, Hiroshima from the Russian territory (even mainland) less than 500 km. This is just for the Iskanders.

            Are they ready to start a full-scale war with Russia?


            1. +1
              28 July 2015 12: 38
              I do not think .... angry
            2. +1
              29 July 2015 09: 31
              Quote: bulvas
              Far East has bases with strategists, and there are dozens of cruise missiles

              Not BASES, but one Ukrainka airbase in the Amur Region, in 26 km north of the city of Belogorsk, where Tu-95MS are based.
              Quote: bulvas
              They remembered about tanks and machine guns on the island, it’s good, but why didn’t we take strategic aviation into account?
              The combat use of the Tu-95MS with X-55 missiles will inevitably mean the beginning of a nuclear war.
            3. 0
              25 July 2017 20: 10
              The 18th machine gun and artillery division, comrades, do not you think some tricky name for the division?
              1. 0
                26 July 2017 15: 48
                Her armament was such. Here comes the name. The infantry wouldn’t
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        5. 0
          28 July 2015 09: 11
          The length of Japan 3 thousand km Learn geography.
          1. +5
            28 July 2015 09: 16
            Quote: Nikolai K
            The length of Japan 3 thousand km Learn geography.



            So I understand the answer to me?

            And what are we talking about?

            Please explain
            1. 0
              28 July 2015 13: 33
              This is Rostovchanin regarding the allegedly compact location of Japan
            2. 0
              26 July 2017 15: 50
              Looks like a friend took into account the very last southern island. Then get 3 thousand.
        6. +1
          28 July 2015 12: 43
          why burn?
          an explosion in the water will blow everything
        7. +2
          28 July 2015 14: 55
          in, hence the question:
          5 strategic nuclear submarines-missile carriers (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese)

          why can't these strategists be weapons against a strong enough adversary? in an extreme case, put Iskandera on the Kuril Islands and this will be enough to never rock the boat again. Who knows what is behind the warhead in the rocket? Hiroshima and Nagasaki have not been forgotten, although propaganda does the trick.

          And at the expense of the Pacific Fleet: now the situation with him is very difficult. Almost all shipyards are in "decline", those that work, their capacity is not enough.
          There would be a new 20350 or at least 22380, but more.
          but to be honest, well, I think that the Yap-s will climb with the war in the Russian Federation.
          There is a triangle in this theater: RF-fponia - China. the states are not quite part of it. If the Japanese attack the Russian Federation or the People's Republic of China, they will substitute the side for the other.
          it is very wasteful to disperse forces throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Now the main direction is Europe. and at the extreme, more training is needed to transfer troops by transporters. There were already such ones, though then the jambs got out because of local airports. For some reason they did not seem to be given permission to land.
          1. 0
            26 July 2017 15: 54
            Ports and take-offs should be the responsibility of the state. As well as the railway. Not without reason after the war, these were paramilitary organizations. Officers were always appointed chiefs.
        8. +11
          28 July 2015 15: 41
          ..... Hokkaido will burn first .....


          ...... The first to burn the early warning radar at Cape Wakkanavai (Hokaido) ..... And then everything else .... On this radar there is a specially ground SU-24 regiment, which the author for some reason did not mention .... hi
          1. +1
            29 July 2015 09: 37
            Quote: aleks 62
            .SU-24 specially sharpened regiment stands on this radar

            Where is this regiment sorry? Su-24M except in Khurb near Komsomolsk there are no more in the Far East No. There are also scouts of Su-24MR Varfolomeyevka, but they have different tasks.
        9. +3
          28 July 2015 18: 54
          Quote: Rostovchanin
          Hokkaido will burn first.

          Well, what kind of heartlessness. Burn someone. It is very intolerant.
          You can put several warheads near the coastline and the effect will be like in a toilet: everything will be washed off with some water.
          Cleanliness is purely TOPOL.
          Are you still making territorial claims?
          Then we fly to you.
        10. 0
          31 July 2015 13: 10
          Our doctrine will not allow the use of strategic nuclear forces against Japan.
      2. +19
        28 July 2015 06: 49
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        How and what Japan will storm the Kuril Islands of Russia

        Mostly a bazaar, in other words, diplomacy. Although a combination of bazaar and market is possible, there are economic steps. And they won’t fight - they have too well-set and comfortable life to sacrifice all this for the islands, from which Japan will have no profit except prestige.
        1. 0
          26 July 2017 15: 59
          Excuse me. And the territory, and the resources in the land and in the sea. And finally, the MOST IMPORTANT - THIS IS NON-FREEZING STRAINS into the Pacific Ocean. If you give the islands, the Pacific Fleet will become like a Baltic Fleet or like a Black Sea Fleet - only a step from the pier.
      3. +12
        28 July 2015 08: 27
        Quote: Barboskin
        It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.

        And it is not the Japanese who decide, but the United States ... They need to poke the Japanese in the ass and incite them against Russia. OR YOU FORGOT HOW THE RUSSIAN-JAPANESE WAR OF 1904-1905 BEGIN? By the way, the instigators were the same. Only WEAPONS and a HIGH PROBABILITY OF COMPLETE DESTRUCTION, if not the state that started the war, then its attacking group, can only stop rash aggressive actions in the current world (thanks to the shameless US policy). As soon as the Japanese see clearly that the Russian Federation can destroy 60-90% of the group attacking the Kuril ridge, it will reduce the degree of "Raspaltsovka", for now we are hiding behind some kind of docks on the islands for which the Americans US-T and the Japanese were never asked ...

        P.S. Thank God the re-equipment in the Kuril Islands is gratifying that our hand understands that -Tomorrow begins, if not yesterday, then certainly today ...

        P.P.S. Several dry cargo ships plying near the Kuril Islands and filled with containers in which there may be a few dozen launchers "Club" will help better "cool the farts" of both the United States and its samurai satellites.
        1. +1
          28 July 2015 17: 10
          There will be no war with Japan, as M ... predicted that the Japanese islands would voluntarily become part of (Asian) Russia in the future.
          1. -1
            28 July 2015 17: 54
            Mistake turns out, the forecast for the next 90 years: Japan through a series of earthquakes, will fall in parts into the ocean, because it is on the edge of the Asian platform, and the Japanese will have to move to the Far East coast of Russia, where they will be granted autonomy by 2100.
            1. +1
              28 July 2015 21: 51
              Quote: shasherin.pavel
              Mistake turns out, the forecast for the next 90 years: Japan through a series of earthquakes, will fall in parts into the ocean, because it is on the edge of the Asian platform, and the Japanese will have to move to the Far East coast of Russia, where they will be granted autonomy by 2100.

              Without the right to secession, I hope? ...
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      5. +15
        28 July 2015 08: 46
        similar hatred moods were characteristic before the Russo-Japanese war - and as a result, a museum in Tokyo with a huge Kuropatkin bed and our icons.
        1. +2
          28 July 2015 11: 33
          - Please do not forget the truly diabolical inventiveness of man, not in improving the quality of his life, but in destroying it
        2. +3
          28 July 2015 21: 58
          Quote: ivagulin
          similar hatred moods were characteristic before the Russo-Japanese war - and as a result, a museum in Tokyo with a huge Kuropatkin bed and our icons.

          Now it’s not 1905. If you do not aim to conquer the territory of Japan, then destroying it together with the army and the population (unfortunately, the forest is cut, wood chips fly) with the means available to the RF Armed Forces will not be difficult ...
          Such "caps" for throwing, which the Russian Federation has now, in 1905, not only Russia, but no one else in the whole world ...
          Now no one is going to go to the "samurai" in the bayonet or squadron to the squadron ... It is necessary to be asymmetrical, asymmetrically ...
      6. 0
        28 July 2015 11: 55
        Fuji nuclear strike, similar to Yellowstone ... am
        1. +4
          28 July 2015 12: 32
          Quote: BLACK-SHARK-64
          Fuji nuclear strike, similar to Yellowstone ... am

          No Fuji is fast asleep, it just "hurts them in the soul." (FROM)
          The shrine no matter how national.
      7. 0
        28 July 2015 19: 25
        Flood the island, it is famously said.
    2. +21
      28 July 2015 05: 49
      The thirst for revenge is not limited to sports. The First World War was largely a revenge of the French for 1870, and the Second was an attempt by the Germans to take revenge for the First. A revenge for the Russo-Japanese was planned for 1916, postponed for 1920, partially realized (overland) in 1945. So, as they say, "the ball is on the side" of the Japanese now, and I would not argue that such a warlike people do not think about revenge.
      1. +5
        28 July 2015 09: 22
        At the moment, this is not a warlike people. Americans in every way suppressed this belligerence. But now the pendulum of history has swung the other way, and through 10, the situation may change. In the meantime, the Japanese really do not like and are partly afraid of the Chinese, given the growing power of the latter. So Japan is currently not very profitable to swear with us, they even imposed sanctions with great creak, but could not help but bend.
      2. +2
        28 July 2015 12: 02
        Asians should always be kept spear-headed ... angry
    3. +7
      28 July 2015 06: 58
      There will be no "Japanese attack" under the current conditions.
    4. +1
      28 July 2015 08: 57
      Quote: Barboskin
      It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.

      What the owner says is what they will do.
      1. 0
        28 July 2015 22: 31
        Quote: Sergey777
        Quote: Barboskin
        It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.

        What the owner says is what they will do.

        Well, even this owner, who is crazy about his "exclusiveness", does not look like a suicide, so that in accordance with allied obligations to enter the war against Russia with all the ensuing consequences that are unacceptable for the United States itself ...
        The owner of course can "ally" and deceive, incite and throw, but do not forget about the hostage base in Okinawa. The "owner" will have to directly enter the war, but does he need it? ...
        This "owner" is used to waiting and taking the side of the most likely winner, always! ...
    5. +9
      28 July 2015 09: 54
      And what is stopping them?
      As the author wrote, the presence of S-400 or S-500 + TNW assets + coastal complexes of the Bastion type can interfere.
      AND MOST IMPORTANT- we must clearly make it clear that if something ... then MUCH! Without any remorse, and Hiroshima and Nagasaka will appear to them as flowers!
      1. +1
        28 July 2015 12: 03
        definitely. !!!!!! angry
      2. +3
        28 July 2015 12: 20
        Do not forget to transfer part of your salary to the MO fund for the acquisition and support of equipment.
        Funds do not appear out of nowhere.

        Guys, we all know the skoka Yankees spend on their overseas bases, for forts and bases in the country. And this is about half of the military budget. And as we say to ourselves, the point "costs" immediately knocks out of the head.
    6. +1
      28 July 2015 12: 03
      I would not say so ... given their mentality, it is the "samurai" who can throw out anything they want, especially those incited by the United States. And our forces are weak, then we will have to knock the Japanese out of their positions, of course those funds will seriously wear them out, but they will not completely stop, in order to prevent this, it is necessary to strengthen the grouping.
      1. +3
        28 July 2015 14: 06
        Quote: Alexey-74
        I would not argue so ... given their mentality, it is the "samurai" who can throw out anything, the more so incited by the United States.

        Throw out could the samurai of the 30s. Then - yes, the feudal liberties of the IJA frolic as they could - both at the borders and within the country. Independently start a war, confronting the Metropolis with a fact? Yes, just spit! Rebellion in the capital? Yes, like two fingers!

        Now, even among the young officers of the Self-Defense Forces, there is no former samurai spirit. No one is storming the residence of the Prime Minister, no one is killing the Minister of Finance and the Minister of the keeper of the press, no one is arranging a shootout on the bridge of Marco Polo .... smile
      2. 0
        28 July 2015 18: 54
        landing craft are absent. if 2 waves can be planted on captured bridgeheads from conventional transports, then specialized vessels are required to capture the bridgehead.
        1. +1
          29 July 2015 10: 01
          Quote: wasjasibirjac
          no landing craft

          Just at IJN ... sorry - at MSSA with landing ships all is well. They even have a DVDK:
    7. 0
      28 July 2015 13: 12
      Quote: Barboskin
      It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.


      they say the Chinese and the Japanese will clash and there will be a batch where both the USA and Russia will be pulled, then a third happens, all from the Diaodiao Islands, Senkaku in a different way.
      1. 0
        28 July 2015 22: 49
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        Quote: Barboskin
        It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.


        they say the Chinese and the Japanese will clash and there will be a batch where both the USA and Russia will be pulled, then a third happens, all from the Diaodiao Islands, Senkaku in a different way.

        This is a much more likely scenario than the likelihood of a Japanese attack on Russia ...
        To talk in all seriousness about the possibility of defeating Russia in the war, and even with relatively little blood can only such brainless zombies as Bandera and other sectarians, as well as such inadequate as McCain. Even the old senile Brzezinski does not believe in this ...
    8. +1
      28 July 2015 13: 36
      27 July 2015, 08: 54
      What are our Kuril Islands armed with: cool Japanese heads

      http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201507270754-a6au.htm
      1. +2
        29 July 2015 10: 29
        Quote: 222222
        What are our Kuril Islands armed with: cool Japanese heads
        http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201507270754-a6au.htm

        self-propelled anti-aircraft mounts ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" and ZU-23-2. In addition, the division includes two dozen BM-21 Grad, a division of 152-mm self-propelled artillery systems Hyacinth, 12 anti-aircraft missile systems Buk-M1. Well, and so, just in case, the 62 of the T-80BV tank and several dozen BMP and MTLB.
        Absolutely not enough request Then there is, to put it mildly, "unreliable information":
        From the fact that the Kuril Islands will be fortified, one can note the universal firing structures "Gorchak". This is an armored (withstands direct hit by an artillery shell), a buried structure. The complex is equipped with night vision devices, is armed with an 7,62-mm PKM machine gun, a large-caliber 12,7-mm NSV machine gun, the 30-mm AGS-17 Flame automatic grenade launcher, Competition and Bassoon anti-tank rocket launchers
        stop There are none in the Kuril Islands.
        What else can the Russian army protect the Kuril Islands? If we take the marine component, it is assumed the introduction of a new generation of destroyers. The first of them will be laid in the year 2017. Ship displacement - up to 18000 tons, speed - 32 knots, crew - 300 people. Service life - 50 years. The destroyer of this class will be armed with 70 anti-ship cruise missiles, the S-500 "Prometheus" anti-aircraft system with 128 missile ammunition, and 24 anti-submarine guided missiles.
        wassat This is generally "taken from the ceiling."
    9. +6
      28 July 2015 15: 59
      The capture of the Kuril Islands, this category is not military, but political.
      Military capture of these islands by Japan from Russia is impossible in principle.
      How do you capture them? A Japanese destroyer will sail, land a Japanese sailors, and they hoist the Japanese flag?
      Will Russia keep silent? But if Russia is silent, it doesn’t matter how many and which ships sail to the Kuril Islands - even if it will be one inflatable boat with 1 m Japanese military personnel.
      And if Russia does not keep silent, and considers such an action a declaration of war, then Japan will simply not be able to keep the Kuril Islands, without losing several of its cities, or even the entire fleet.
      Any military scenario in the current realities will lead to the defeat of Japan ... well, at least until they learn how to use lasers to shoot down ICBMs.
      The situation is approximately similar to Crimea - after all, the Ukrainian military contingent was not weaker than ours, in addition, it was on its own land and, by all legal standards, had the right to protection. But in the end, Crimea sailed away without a single shot and declaration of war.

      In addition, one could even say that Russia, the most uncomfortable opponent in the war for Japan. Japan is easier to defeat the United States than Russia - which is what they tried to do in World War II. To defeat Russia, you need a huge land army, which Japan does not have, and which this country, in principle, does not need to build up.
      Therefore it’s absolutely not important that our regional the fleet is weaker than the united Japanese-American one - will we be ready to declare war on Japan for the Kuril Islands, or not - that is the only question.
      1. +1
        28 July 2015 20: 24
        Quote: Darkmor
        In addition, one could even say that Russia, the most uncomfortable opponent in the war for Japan.
        Like Japan for Russia. It’s like a fight between an elephant and a whale. Japan has no chance against Russia on the continent, and Russia does not, and never had a fleet capable of dealing with the Japanese at sea, and without this, landing on the islands is not real. True, the elephant, unlike Russia, does not have nuclear weapons.
        1. 0
          19 July 2017 13: 20
          As for the "elephant" I would not get excited. Compare the population of Japan and Russia - in human resources is almost parity. Then do the same comparison in the Far East region, and Japan, half mobilized, will be the “elephant”. Say, the question is the number of trained military experts? - Well then, given the "threat from the west", we are slightly below parity.
    10. +3
      28 July 2015 19: 48
      They can decide if they decide for them. But about the S-400 on Iturup ?! Author, you want to cover the floor of Japan with an air defense cap? When Primorye does not know if it has it (in the evening I will check with a friend). There is a S-350 with a head, although, incidentally, a Buka, perhaps one more division for loyalty and Pantsyr is a must. "Onyx" is a wonderful thing, but the number of missiles in the ammunition load may not be enough, "Uranus" (X-35) is good for a makeweight - cheap, cheerful and just right for destroyers, Ka-52, by the way, are also carried. Submarines ... for Japan enough diesel engines (4-6 new Ladas with missile and torpedo armament), Antei were sharpened for aircraft carriers. Ships of the main classes are needed for combat stability, and of course an aircraft carrier (here are dreams for now). If it comes to a serious matter, as VV Zhirinovsky said, "Let's drown nah ... your Japan, are you not enough of Fukushima?"
      1. +1
        29 July 2015 10: 42
        Quote: bayard
        But about C-400 on Iturup? !! Author, do you want to cover the floor of Japan with an air defense cap? When Primorye does not know if it exists (I will check with a friend in the evening).

        Unfortunately for many, the entire Far East is "Primorye" request In fact, Primorsky Krai is only part of the Far Eastern Federal District (not the largest).

        In the Far East, the S-400 air defense system is located under Nakhodka and is currently deployed on the shore of Avachinsky Bay in Kamchatka, where our SSBNs are based. Below is the layout of medium and long-range air defense systems in the Far Eastern Federal District.

        Quote: bayard
        There is a S-350 with a head, although, incidentally, a Buka, perhaps one more division for loyalty and Pantsyr is a must. "

        It is a pity, of course, that you are not planning in the General Staff. However, there is no "Armor" in the Far East, and the S-350 is only being tested and refined. request
        Quote: bayard
        Ka-52 by the way they also carry.

        Serial, which are available in the troops?
        Quote: bayard
        enough diesels for Japan (4-6 new Frets with missile and torpedo weapons)
        Let's talk about what really is.
    11. 0
      28 July 2015 21: 44
      Quote: Barboskin
      It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.

      Yes, they are not "idiots" Hiroshima remember ...
      And do not comrade Confused Nersisyan (although writing articles is his bread) Mistrals, airborne ships with a maximum speed of 18 knots, with Izumi. This is an anti-submarine cruiser with a speed of 30 knots, the corresponding armament of the air group and the ability to take on board 4 hundred troops for possible landing from helicopters.
      Such high-speed and well-armed ships, such as Minsk on new technologies, are needed by our fleet, and not "misrals", which it is not clear how to use.
    12. 0
      14 August 2015 23: 35
      I always like when comparing the entire army of the enemy with a limited group of troops of the Russian Federation good Now Yapi will expose all of its fighters and ships, against 64 tanks in the Kuril Islands. How does the author imagine a landing operation with the help of UDC in a modern war, especially against the Russian Federation? fool Though with the entire US fleet. Are you sure that they will risk such forces for the sake of the Kuril Islands? They will drown their favorite fleet, and Hokkaido will become a subject of the Russian Federation fellow
    13. 0
      12 March 2018 22: 06
      Quote: Barboskin
      It is unlikely that the Japanese dare to attack.

      Some, of course, are unlikely, but they will certainly support the same US and EU in the event of another foreign intervention against Russia ...
  2. +2
    28 July 2015 05: 38
    but you don’t need to scare us No.
    1. +5
      28 July 2015 06: 04
      To all lovers to test Russia weakly, the advice is to thoroughly study the History.
      1. -17
        28 July 2015 08: 28
        Rome used to think the same way. And he was destroyed by half-naked barbarians. So who would talk about history. And Russia is not eternal, as not a single state is eternal.
        1. +9
          28 July 2015 08: 34
          Quote: orevist85
          Rome used to think the same way. And he was destroyed by half-naked barbarians. So who would talk about history. And Russia is not eternal, as not a single state is eternal.

          Well, yes, only Israel is eternal, like the Eternal J.I.
          Interestingly, the buryer of Russia, where would you live if not a Person?
          1. -8
            28 July 2015 09: 03
            For Vasya who did not use the alphabet and do not know how to read, I am quoting a segment from my comment "And Russia is not eternal, just as no state is eternal."

            As you can see, I never said that Israel is eternal. So be afraid :-)
            1. +8
              28 July 2015 09: 10
              Quote: orevist85
              For Vasya who did not use the alphabet and do not know how to read, I am quoting a segment from my comment "And Russia is not eternal, just as no state is eternal."

              As you can see, I never said that Israel is eternal. So be afraid :-)



              I'm Vasya

              What do you think is eternity for the state?

              Russia is eternal, unlike many other states

              For one simple reason: Russia does not attack anyone and does not seize foreign lands

              do not assimilate the alphabet


              - who can read (write) here?

              1. -13
                28 July 2015 09: 26
                Russia is eternal .... I repeat, Rome thought the same way he thought, like the Macedonians, the empire of Egypt, the Ottoman Empire, Babylon .... the list is very long. And Russia will be in it, and the USA and Israel are inevitable.
                1. +6
                  28 July 2015 09: 31
                  Quote: orevist85
                  Russia is eternal .... I repeat, Rome thought the same way he thought, like the Macedonians, the empire of Egypt, the Ottoman Empire, Babylon .... the list is very long. And Russia will be in it, and the USA and Israel are inevitable.



                  So, what is next?

                  What is the saying about?

                  Why trivial statements with a claim to thoughtfulness?


                  For one human life, 150 years is already eternity

                  So, to spit on everything, all the same we are not eternal?



                  1. -10
                    28 July 2015 09: 40
                    All this to the fact that having won a couple of wars, you should not think that you are immortal and eternal. And especially do not refer to history, trying to say something about the eternity of the state.
                    This is ridiculous. :-)
                    1. +7
                      28 July 2015 09: 50
                      Quote: orevist85
                      All this to the fact that winning a couple of wars

                      It’s not worth it .. If Russia won "in a pair", then Israel - in a few minus. Simple arithmetic Yes
                      1. +1
                        28 July 2015 23: 03
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: orevist85
                        All this to the fact that winning a couple of wars

                        It’s not worth it .. If Russia won "in a pair", then Israel - in a few minus. Simple arithmetic Yes

                        Almost all Israeli victories remained in such a distant past that we do not know about the great commander Jesus Novin from the Bible ...
                        By the way, read, so he, according to modern European standards, he was still a fascist ... He was not a tolerant "comrade" ...
                    2. 0
                      28 July 2015 10: 00
                      Quote: orevist85
                      All this to the fact that having won a couple of wars, you should not think that you are immortal and eternal. And especially do not refer to history, trying to say something about the eternity of the state.
                      This is ridiculous. :-)



                      You can not think about anything at all

                      As you do, it's simple to write something against everyone, it doesn't matter if it makes sense or not

                      It’s necessary to somehow manifest
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                      1. +2
                        28 July 2015 12: 07
                        and let Vaseline buy ... grease the seat ... for the Arabs ... bully
                  2. 0
                    28 July 2015 22: 57
                    Quote: bulvas
                    Quote: orevist85
                    Russia is eternal .... I repeat, Rome thought the same way he thought, like the Macedonians, the empire of Egypt, the Ottoman Empire, Babylon .... the list is very long. And Russia will be in it, and the USA and Israel are inevitable.



                    So, what is next?

                    What is the saying about?

                    Why trivial statements with a claim to thoughtfulness?


                    For one human life, 150 years is already eternity

                    So, to spit on everything, all the same we are not eternal?

                    I will add, astronomers claim that the Earth and the Sun are not eternal ...
                    And even, what a nightmare, the Universe itself! ... belay
                2. +4
                  28 July 2015 10: 05
                  Quote: orevist85
                  Russia is eternal .... I repeat, Rome thought the same way he thought, like the Macedonians, the empire of Egypt, the Ottoman Empire, Babylon .... the list is very long. And Russia will be in it, and the USA and Israel are inevitable.


                  OOOOOOOOOO ... another nist drew ...

                  What sideways do Russian affairs concern you? belay You sit on your promised land and sit ...

                  Or what, it became enviable for those who remained in Russia that a little "got lost" by pulling them off to Israel ... and now you are angry with Russia?

                  shl
                  Although what remains for you now ... only be more careful on turns, do not burst with envy! laughing
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          2. 0
            28 July 2015 16: 14
            is the eternal jew alive? read the golden calf ....
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        2. +21
          28 July 2015 08: 34
          Quote: orevist85
          Rome used to think the same way. And he was destroyed by half-naked barbarians.

          Yes, I remember Rome considered itself the center of civilization, homosexuality and democracy flourished there, and then it was destroyed by barbarians.
          Sorry, and who are now called barbarians in the West, not Russian by chance?
          Quote: orevist85
          . And Russia is not eternal

          You will sweat to wait!
          1. -14
            28 July 2015 09: 06
            Well, yes, in Russia there is no Gomez ... yeah.
            About "I'll sweat to wait"
            I don’t wait for such, but if you look where Russia was under the kings and where now .. I'm afraid the bill will not be in favor of modernity. As they say below, nowhere to fall.
            1. +12
              28 July 2015 09: 35
              Quote: orevist85
              Well, yes, in Russia there is no Gomez ... yeah.

              Of course there is, but they’re beaten up in the face, and in Israel they hold their parades. Do you feel the difference?
              Quote: orevist85
              . As they say below, nowhere to fall.

              Well, it’s better from Israel lol
              Although there was nowhere to fall about below in the 90s, but now Russia alone shows perverts to the whole western world
              1. -12
                28 July 2015 09: 50
                Of course there is, but they are beating their faces here-- and what, have they made them fewer in Russia ?? :-)
                1. +5
                  28 July 2015 10: 04
                  Quote: orevist85
                  but they beat their face here--

                  okay, according to the laws of Israel for a fight, immediately arrest. There is a reference, how they are beaten in Israel?
                  Quote: orevist85
                  and what, they made it less in Russia ?? :-)

                  Yes, we have less, sho then they have been felling lately where they love them wassat
                2. +2
                  28 July 2015 13: 48
                  Well, we have homosexuals and liberalists on one face! And there are whores who go to Odessa and Israel! But on the eternity account, I once said, but you, our enemies and ill-wishers, do not rejoice! If we leave, then ALL WILL GO! Forever.
            2. +2
              28 July 2015 11: 22
              therefore, the Israelis ask back to Russia in the warm regions of the Crimea! the smell was fried, the Israelis have a chuyka that is innate!)))
            3. 0
              28 July 2015 16: 23
              So if it weren’t for the Jews who brought mother the revolution to Russia, if it weren’t for the Jews who didn’t live in the USSR, they had to see “freedom”, then everything would be different ...
              1. 0
                28 July 2015 18: 01
                The revolution was brought to Russia by the Romanovs, pros..v Japanese and the first world
        3. +7
          28 July 2015 10: 41
          Quote: orevist85
          Rome used to think the same way. And he was destroyed by half-naked barbarians. So who would talk about history. And Russia is not eternal, as no state is eternal
          - no need to compare us with the Anglo-Saxons. We never lived at the expense of others. On the lands that we attached, we built cities, schools, factories. hi
        4. +2
          28 July 2015 11: 37
          - And what do you not want to put Israel, this "wandering charge" of History as an example?
        5. +3
          28 July 2015 12: 04
          yours is definitely not forever ... am
        6. 0
          26 July 2017 16: 28
          However, your hands have not reached yet. But can everything be ahead?
      2. 0
        28 July 2015 10: 50
        Especially the story of the Tsushima battle.
  3. +9
    28 July 2015 05: 38
    Yes, in the new situation, buried ISs no longer solve the problem. The east must be strengthened precisely with missiles. And the fleet ... It’s also needed, but it’s not one year’s business ...
  4. +18
    28 July 2015 05: 44
    Yes they went. Proud samurai ... dofiga are they proud?

    70 years ago, one country dropped two nuclear bombs on their peaceful cities! That country killed thousands of innocent people, citizens of Japan !!!!

    So what? at least some sound about it ?? from proud samurai ???

    Nooo Mlyn! They need to get to our islands!
    1. +4
      28 July 2015 10: 52
      In Japan, the samurai is almost gone.
  5. +4
    28 July 2015 05: 45
    Well, what's the point of attacking the Kuril Islands? There, a rather complicated coastline does not always calmly land. They woke up, they need to be strengthened, so less than 7 years ago a separate corps was based, and before that a whole army
    1. +2
      28 July 2015 08: 20
      But helicopters fly from bases + helicopters from the fleet = tactical landings of the company-battalion level in key places that stretch the defense, bring chaos to the rear and remove forces from areas for landing heavy forces.

      Plus, the Japanese MDK and low draft barges are the main landing craft, and there are more plots for them.
      1. +8
        28 July 2015 10: 44
        Dear you were in the Kuril Islands? It’s not possible to stretch the defense there, there the defense itself is not possible to be built on compact SDs in a different way; the relief does not allow it. But turntables with tactical assault can be excellently shot from the air defense system. Arrow hills create ideal shelters.
  6. +1
    28 July 2015 05: 47
    Well, even if they decide to take such a step, we can assume that they will capture it, but obviously they won’t be able to keep it for a long time. soldier
  7. +9
    28 July 2015 05: 53
    It’s direct, predatory, bold, warlike: in a word, the Japanese. Disappointment, despondency and death, they are waiting on our lands!
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    2. +6
      28 July 2015 07: 05
      You are right, of course, but Japan is a very strong adversary both militarily and in terms of economic development and the availability of a sufficient mobilization resource. Moreover, he counts on the full support of the United States.
      One cannot do without capricious slogans here. Strengthening the grouping in the Kuril Islands, and indeed the entire Eastern District and the TF is vital. Too many people wanting to profit.
      1. 0
        28 July 2015 09: 30
        Fully agree with you!
      2. +3
        28 July 2015 09: 31
        You apparently have outdated information. Economically, Japan is in crisis. And it has been going on for 17 years. And most importantly, depression in the head. Now Japan reminds Germany of the late twenties of the last century. But everything can change.
      3. +7
        28 July 2015 10: 58
        Quote: bolat19640303
        You are right, of course, but Japan is a very strong adversary both militarily and in terms of economic development and the availability of a sufficient mobilization resource.

        Despite the full development of the economy, Japan has one big minus; this state has no strategic depth.
        Even without the use of nuclear weapons, the infrastructure will be almost completely destroyed in the first few hours of the war.
        Now it’s not 1905 or even 1945 in the yard under the current conditions in the war against Russia, Japan has no chance not only to win on acceptable terms, but to win in general.
  8. +9
    28 July 2015 05: 58
    Quote: DEZINTO
    70 years ago, one country dropped two nuclear bombs on their peaceful cities!

    "Heroes" of Khtrosima.
    1. +1
      28 July 2015 13: 47
      Yeah, and the whole world was silent, and is still silent.
  9. -15
    28 July 2015 06: 09
    "18th machine-gun and artillery division" ... sounds crazy ... maybe there are still "pistol-mortar" ones?
    The author also forgot to mention the remaining 99% of the RF Armed Forces, Strategic Rocket Forces, fleet and strategic aviation in the article ... here you are not Falklands ..
    The whole article is a whole ... let's say bewildered or something ... it seems like a serious site, but in the last month this x ... went ...
    1. +14
      28 July 2015 06: 40
      She is one of a kind. It has an exclusively defensive purpose, hence the name. In the old days, it would have been called the SD division.
    2. +11
      28 July 2015 07: 35
      For simara

      Reading your stupidity, you understand that you are a young man and probably did not serve in the army, therefore you do not know what UR (fortified areas) are. And in these URs there were machine-gun and artillery subunits in addition to the field filling in wartime of the MS units. There was a combat duty, which lasted from 3 to 5 months (this is finding and living in bunkers. Which were up to 3-4 floors in depth).
      1. +2
        28 July 2015 08: 15
        Reading your stupidity, you understand that you are a young man and probably did not serve in the army, therefore you do not know what UR (fortified areas) are. And in these URs there were machine-gun and artillery subunits in addition to the field filling in wartime of the MS units. There was a combat duty, which lasted from 3 to 5 months (this is finding and living in bunkers. Which were up to 3-4 floors in depth). [/ Quote]
        Maybe he said stupidity (or maybe he joked, his right), but so categorically commented even worse. Learn at least to write without errors! And good luck.
        1. 0
          29 July 2015 15: 22
          Let’s say that I couldn’t even think that after the Second World Ur there still exist somewhere, why then call it stupid? and with regard to everything else ... well, you see ... Japan, even in theory, does not consider the possibility of a forceful solution to the issue of the Kuril Islands ... well, nothing ... and it's not about the URs but in the Armed Forces ...
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    3. +11
      28 July 2015 08: 42
      Quote: Simara
      "18th machine-gun and artillery division" ... sounds crazy ... maybe there are still "pistol-mortar" ones?

      No, not crazy. Intriguing. Includes (weapons):
      BM-21 Grad - 18 units;
      152-mm gun 2S5 "Hyacinth-B" - 36 units;
      9K37M1 Buk-M1 - 12 units;
      9K35 Arrow-10 - 12 units;
      ZSU-23-4 "Shilka" - 12 units;
      122 mm howitzer D-30 - 18 units;
      100-mm field gun BS-3 - 12 units;
      120-mm mortar 2B14 "Tray" - 18 units;
      ZU-23-2 - 8 units;
      BM 9A331MU - 8 units;
      T-80BV - 62 units. They also giggle when they hear the phrase: "horse-mechanized group", or "horse-mechanized corps." sappers and so on ..
      1. 0
        29 July 2015 15: 27
        with the same success there you can build a lighthouse and leave the caretaker-pensioner with a berdanka .. the result will be the same for any attack on the Russian Federation is suicide
    4. +3
      28 July 2015 14: 49
      Quote: Simara
      "18th machine-gun and artillery division" ... sounds crazy ... maybe there are still "pistol-mortar" ones?

      "Machine gun and artillery" is the standard name for parts of fortified areas since the days of the Red Army. A separate machine-gun and artillery battalion (opab) then occupied a battalion defense area (BRO), of which there could be quite a lot in the UR. For example, in 22 SD (KaUR) there were 15 BRO and 15 opab.
      The name "machine gun-artillery" reflected the specifics of these units, in which the bulk of them were just the calculations of guns and machine guns.
      Sometimes the opabs were formed before the completion of the construction of the DOS UR - and then they were relatively mobile defensive units armed with army cannons and machine guns.
      Nikitin, apparently a very sensible combat officer, took out his fire tablet, or, more simply, an ordinary topographic map glued on a sheet of thick plywood with neatly trimmed edges, and showed the location of his four companies, all the battalion’s military equipment and machine gun and artillery shelling sectors. I could not believe my eyes: there were four companies in the battalion, and 11 platoons in each company.
      “That's right,” Nikitin confirmed, noting my bewilderment. - In each company there are five machine-gun and five artillery-machine-gun platoons and one more artillery platoon. There are a thousand people in my battalion.
      - Your task?
      - Subordinate to the commander of the sixty-third brigade. The combat mission: to prevent the landing of enemy troops on the line from the isthmus at the Ivari Barracks to Pummanok inclusive.
      “What about your defenses?”
      - Machine guns - easel and manual - for the most part in open nests and trenches, only a few in bunkers. Ahead there is only a wire on slingshots in a row and a Bruno spiral.
      - Do you have bunkers?
      “No, comrade general.” They are scheduled for construction, but so far they are not.
      (c) Boars. The battlefield is the shore.

      The Yankees had similar units - Marine Defense Battalion (the same opab, only the marine - machine-gun and artillery units for air defense and advanced air defense bases).

      After the war, machine gun and artillery formations were enlarged to divisions and remained in those places where there were SDs and where defense was needed (mainly the Far East). 18 pulad is the last of the Mohicans.
  10. +6
    28 July 2015 06: 18
    "Let's not forget about the 7th US Navy Fleet, based in Japan and having an aircraft carrier, 2 missile cruisers, 7 destroyers, 3 nuclear submarines and other ships. And this is a completely different force, against which there is now a different path, like the use of even tactical nuclear weapons, no. "

    Well ... I wouldn’t want to, but ... if necessary, it’s necessary to apply here, too, the delay in death is similar.
  11. +4
    28 July 2015 06: 39
    Well, in general, the article is correct ... if you do not take into account such a thing as the "threatened period". So during this very period, no one bothers to transfer a bunch of weapons to the islands, to overtake a couple of submarines by the Northern Sea Route. You can also arrange an exercise with a demonstrative sinking of an old barge. In short, you can slap anyone if you want. Well, if Japan jerks quite suddenly, then for a while they will be at their best. And then we will squeeze ourselves and Hokkaido, with the obligatory signing of a peace treaty, yes.))
    1. +7
      28 July 2015 06: 45
      And then we will squeeze ourselves and Hokkaido

      By this time, the experience of building extended bridges is just typed
      1. +1
        28 July 2015 09: 37
        Eugene, why do you need Hokkaido, you would first put things in order at home. And if you want to change the time zone, go to our Far East, they will welcome you there, otherwise Tajiks and Chinese will soon fill it.
        1. +1
          29 July 2015 00: 02
          Quote: Nikolai K
          Eugene, why do you need Hokkaido, you would first put things in order at home ...

          This is exactly the same thing, almost word for word, say about the claims of the Japanese leadership to the Kuril Islands by the inhabitants of Hokkaido, especially the inhabitants of the north of this island occupied by Japan a couple of centuries ago near Russia (the Ainu - the inhabitants of the islands of the Japanese). Hokkaido residents say that the Japanese government has forgotten about Hokkaido, villages are emptying, people are leaving for the south, and if it were not for Russian "tourists", the local residents of Hokkaido would be very bad ...
          And the Kurils are needed not so much by Japan as by the United States - they need a base there, to lock our Pacific Fleet in the Sea of ​​Okhotsk. And they want to make this sea "international waters" with all that it implies. In addition, on the shelf of the Kuril Islands, they say they found a lot of oil ... Plus fish, also a lot ... A tidbit, isn't it? And what kind of such will he give? So, let the "contenders" wipe their drool and don't rock the boat if they don't want to burn out in the "third world" ...
    2. +2
      28 July 2015 09: 38
      Quote: Zomanus
      And then we will push ourselves and Hokkaido, with the mandatory signing of a peace treaty, yes.))

      what But what for do we need these desert islands with radiation? let the cockroaches and rats master them there ...
      1. 0
        29 July 2015 00: 06
        Quote: Corsair
        Quote: Zomanus
        And then we will push ourselves and Hokkaido, with the mandatory signing of a peace treaty, yes.))

        what But what for do we need these desert islands with radiation? let the cockroaches and rats master them there ...

        You can transfer the landfill there, otherwise it’s painful in the New Earth and the polar night, again ... fool
  12. +4
    28 July 2015 06: 57
    as one grandfather recently said (who served with the Japanese at one time) ... "The Japanese ... are not like warriors ... don't piss, we'll fight back!" laughing Verbatim! laughing God forbid! God forbid!

    ps And so then the amer’s Lafa will be ... the Japs will start, they will immediately harness the type of help .. and get involved ... then what are they waiting for so long from us ...
    1. +1
      28 July 2015 19: 12
      My grandfather said that if a Japanese dug in somewhere, then until he shoots all the cartridges, he will not leave. Very persistent said were. He served by the way from 1939 to 1946. And he found Finnish and visited Berlin and fought with the Japanese.
      1. 0
        29 July 2015 00: 09
        Quote: Loginoff
        My grandfather said that if a Japanese dug in somewhere, then until he shoots all the cartridges, he will not leave. Very persistent said were. He served by the way from 1939 to 1946. And he found Finnish and visited Berlin and fought with the Japanese.

        Those Japanese are not a couple of the current, the Japanese have become Americanized, degenerate ... There are no samurai in modern Japan, and the well-fed bourgeois are not warriors ...
  13. +31
    28 July 2015 07: 03
    Or maybe the truth will suit Japan as long as such a replacement?

    According to the article. In fact, destroyers and BOD are two different things. If you open the current list of the Pacific Fleet ships, everything is written there.
    1. +5
      28 July 2015 10: 08
      She’s Japanese by her father, and by her mother she’s just a liberal.
  14. +19
    28 July 2015 07: 11
    Bullshit! There is a doctrine providing for the use of nuclear deterrence to resolve the conflict if it threatens with territorial losses or whatever. And if some people quietly bite in the hope that they won’t get a boot over the ears, while others soar in the clouds with thoughts that the enemy could be enough to not play with fire, then what could such a game lead to?
    My personal opinion: the yapps are the six of America and they will do what the owner says. And that means living not with your own brains. And, consequently, there is nothing to be afraid of using a couple of "Topols" to put in place a presumptuous impudent person who is trying to take away what, for historical reasons, does not belong to him, no matter how he flatters himself with illusions hi Especially in conventional weapons, superiority is not on our side ...
    1. +1
      28 July 2015 17: 14
      Japan is an ancient nation. Got a terrible lesson in atomic hell. All together will deter them from self-destruction.
  15. +9
    28 July 2015 07: 26
    Yes, nothing will not, due to geographical location and physical size. Well, the fleet, so what? What is the use of him if he comes back, not where? laughing
  16. +4
    28 July 2015 07: 36
    "5 strategic nuclear missile submarines (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese)"
    And why is that?! Due to moral, ethical or tactical-technical considerations ?! You can probably choose Japanese military enlistment offices as goals to reduce the mobilization resource ... Only military enlistment offices! No peaceful goals! feel
    1. 0
      29 July 2015 00: 20
      Quote: Decathlon
      "5 strategic nuclear missile submarines (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese)"
      And why is that?! Due to moral, ethical or tactical-technical considerations ?! You can probably choose Japanese military enlistment offices as goals to reduce the mobilization resource ... Only military enlistment offices! No peaceful goals! feel

      Why military enlistment offices? You need to get into only two goals: the US Embassy and the US Navy base in Okinawa, well, like, ostensibly accidentally missed ... request The Japanese also say thanks for getting rid of the invaders ... good
  17. +13
    28 July 2015 07: 36
    there are 5 strategic atomic missile submarines (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese)

    who told the author of the article such nonsense. In the event of an attack on her, Russia will not shoot from slingshots and will use the entire range of weapons, including a nuclear strike (by the way, this is reflected in the Russian military doctrine).
    1. -6
      28 July 2015 08: 25
      Launching strategic nuclear forces in a war with a non-nuclear country - for which the leading nuclear country stands = this is a crime, as two things are personally done:

      - given the irony of Belli, understood by the rest of the people of the United States and the EU, to enter the war.
      - the balance of power is shifting itself, that shooting that will fly across Japan will no longer fly across the USA. Wagging even 15-20 missiles of either side can give rise to start a big war. Because carriers are few in terms of strategic offensive arms. Especially for the Americans, who are working on ways to win back the 1 / 3-1 / 2 SNF before the hot phase.
      1. +8
        28 July 2015 09: 48
        Quote: donavi49
        Launching strategic nuclear forces in a war with a non-nuclear country - for which the leading nuclear country stands = a crime, since two things are done personally

        laughing You mean you offer to wait until they occupy the islands or even Sakhalin, and purely patsansky on fists? Do you think they will take our prisoners? Hundreds of thousands of these Chinese psychos were slaughtered, and they have the same attitude towards us. The incident is not an incident - a warning through personal channels, submarines closer to the US coast and flew tactical nuclear weapons to proud samurai.
        The balance of power in the presence of a thousand warheads and the use of 10-20 will not change in any way, of course there is no talk about the use of strategic nuclear weapons. Of course, there is a variant of an underwater explosion off the coast of Japan to create an artificial tsunami, but it will reach us.
        1. +1
          28 July 2015 18: 07
          So these 5 submarines do not carry nuclear weapons, but quite strategic sea-based ICBMs. There is no big sense to use them against samurai. If necessary, the 3-4 strike tactical nuclear weapons.
      2. +4
        28 July 2015 11: 15
        Quote: donavi49
        Launch strategic nuclear forces in a war with a non-nuclear country
        - it is possible not on the territory, but nearby. Tsunami will do the trick.
        Quote: donavi49
        a leading nuclear country stands for
        - They also stood behind Georgia.
        Quote: donavi49
        it is a crime
        - I agree. I am sure that there will be enough "Bastions" and S-300! hi
      3. 0
        29 July 2015 00: 27
        Quote: donavi49
        Launching strategic nuclear forces in a war with a non-nuclear country - for which the leading nuclear country stands = this is a crime, as two things are personally done:

        - given the irony of Belli, understood by the rest of the people of the United States and the EU, to enter the war.
        - the balance of power is shifting itself, that shooting that will fly across Japan will no longer fly across the USA. Wagging even 15-20 missiles of either side can give rise to start a big war. Because carriers are few in terms of strategic offensive arms. Especially for the Americans, who are working on ways to win back the 1 / 3-1 / 2 SNF before the hot phase.

        Nobody is going to use the strategic nuclear forces against such a target as Japan, and operational-tactical nuclear weapons are enough, they say, we have more than enough of them ...
    2. -3
      28 July 2015 10: 59
      In the event of an attack, our Ministry of Foreign Affairs will express a note of stiff protest, and while our headquarters scratch the back of our headquarters, the Kuril Islands will already be under the Japanese — we have unequal forces there.
      1. 0
        28 July 2015 12: 33
        Quote: Vadim237
        In the event of an attack, our Foreign Ministry will express a note of stiff protest
        - You must have beguiled the parties. This Japan only knows how to express stiff protests.
        Quote: Vadim237
        while in our General Staff will scratch the back of the head
        - in 2008 scratched your head?
        Quote: Vadim237
        we have unequal forces there
        - yes, unequal. Have you heard about Vostok-2014?
        1. +2
          28 July 2015 14: 06
          I didn’t confuse anything, to recall the shelling of our border territory from Ukraine, the shelling of more than 100, and several people died, our Foreign Ministry kept scribbling protest notes from a machine gun, in 2008, during the war with Georgia, our general staff moved, East 2014 - Good window dressing, but we don’t know how it will be in case of war.
          1. +1
            28 July 2015 14: 41
            Quote: Vadim237
            shelling of our border territory from Ukraine
            - I agree. But it was random shelling.
            Quote: Vadim237
            East 2014
            - Vostok-2014 showed that a huge number of soldiers with equipment can be transferred over long distances.
            Quote: Vadim237
            and how it will be in case of war we do not know
            - I hope common sense will prevail, and we will never know about it! hi
  18. +2
    28 July 2015 07: 40
    I do not think that Japan will dare to engage in a direct armed conflict with Russia. But the fact that they are strengthening their "self-defense forces", which it is possible that they will soon be called as it should be - the Armed Forces (although the point is not in the name, but in the quantity and armament) should alert us and take this into account in the THAT theater of operations ...
  19. +2
    28 July 2015 07: 47
    So what now? From the beginning, we get a little, but then kaaak pile on with this and that! am
  20. +3
    28 July 2015 07: 56
    Nonsense of a gray-haired mare, so that Japan flooded to Russia. Are they not enough of Fokushima? They have enough of China and North Korea. They stupidly know, and do not admit, that some "Poplar" are programmed somewhere.
    1. -4
      28 July 2015 08: 29
      In 1904, we also thought so, nonsense, we’ll humiliate them now, as we will win a small victorious maximum (s) and we will recall the whole region.

      But suddenly, the Japanese went on a night raid in Port Arthur, followed by the withdrawal of the 1 TOE core, which was parade and landing in Korea.
      1. +3
        28 July 2015 10: 38
        Quote: donavi49
        In 1904, they also thought so

        The Russian empire, possessing an almost threefold advantage in population, could put up a proportionally large army. At the same time, the number of Russian armed forces directly in the Far East (beyond Lake Baikal) amounted to no more than 150 thousand people, and, taking into account the fact that most of these troops were connected with the protection of the Trans-Siberian border / state border / fortresses, it was directly accessible for active operations about 60 thousand people.

        The distribution of Russian troops in the Far East is shown below:

        about Vladivostok - 45 thousand people;
        in Manchuria - 28,1 thousand people;
        Port Arthur garrison - 22,5 thousand people;
        railway troops (protection of the CER) - 35 thousand people;
        serf troops (artillery, engineering units and telegraph) - 7,8 thousand people.
        By the beginning of the war, the Trans-Siberian Railway was already operating, but its throughput was only 3-4 pairs of trains per day. The bottlenecks were the ferry across Baikal and the Trans-Baikal section of the Trans-Siberian Railway; the throughput of the remaining sections was 2-3 times higher. The low throughput of the Trans-Siberian Railway meant a low speed of troop transfer to the Far East: the transfer of one army corps (about 30 thousand people) took about 1 month.
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  22. +1
    28 July 2015 08: 24
    Suicide Japs? Is the memory lost or adapted to radiation? Several missiles with nuclear warheads and their islet plunge into the ocean.
    Just to warn - if they climb, we won’t even think and get dirty with conventional weapons - we will immediately launch missiles in Tokyo and large cities and organize several 400-meter tsunamis. Narrow-eyed were completely stunned.
    1. -4
      28 July 2015 08: 29
      And no one will start. They will send you first. You will die there against the superior forces of the enemy. Then Lavrov will express his concern, and our Foreign Ministry will call the situation a "provocation." The Soviet times, when they would have done exactly what you said, are long gone. Today's state is primarily concerned not with protecting the interests of the Motherland, but serving the interests of big business.
    2. 0
      28 July 2015 17: 20
      To destroy an entire nation a hand will not rise. If you imagine the faces of ordinary people ... would you click a button?
  23. +2
    28 July 2015 08: 26
    If a Japanese expert would write such an article, one would think, and this is self-digging.
  24. +1
    28 July 2015 08: 31
    Japanese pressures may provoke
    1. +4
      28 July 2015 09: 40
      The Japanese are not stupid, Shinzo Abe is not Saakashvili.
      1. 0
        28 July 2015 13: 40
        Why do you think so?
  25. +3
    28 July 2015 08: 35
    Japan now has a different headache.

    Only in July, China commissioned the 2 destroyer 052D (the 8 destroyer with an advanced combat system, the modernized C-300F, and large-area radars with canvases) and launched the 7 destroyer of the 052D project.

    19 and 20 frigates of 054A with Shtil air defense missile systems were introduced into the PLA. Another 4 is being built.

    27 (!!!) 056 corvette launched.


    Plus, the largest exercises of the airborne forces were conducted, this time of an anti-island orientation (according to the scenario, the landing was not on conditional Taiwan, but on small islands in conditions of sea and air battle).




    As for the Kuril Islands, they will bargain, most likely starting from the Khrushchev version of 2-2 with various additional conditions for passage, use, etc.
    1. +3
      28 July 2015 09: 38
      The Japanese have been told several times that the issue is closed. That’s how to virtually raise their flags on the islands, they would have to send their energy, but in a different direction.
      So, in principle, I agree, China may also lose patience. And if the United States nevertheless sets the Japanese against us, then the PLA navy can strike from the "rear". Purely to protect their interests. China does not care about the Kuriles, it will defend its own and the Japanese + the United States will at one point become the most sworn enemy.
  26. +1
    28 July 2015 08: 58
    It's not about the islands with such a fleet as you can now and lose Primorye.
    1. +5
      28 July 2015 09: 43
      With such a population in the Far East, not only Primorye can be lost. This region urgently needs to be developed, otherwise the Chinese will do it for us, naturally in their own interests.
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  28. +1
    28 July 2015 09: 11
    The author did not say a word about aviation, why? Here she (aviation) will play a decisive role. In the USSR on Iturup there was a regiment of Mig23 + on Sakhalin two regiments. Now I am left alone near Yuzhno-Kurilsk. request
    1. +1
      28 July 2015 10: 50
      There are 31migars regiment in Kamchatka
  29. +3
    28 July 2015 09: 17
    In the threatened period, tactical missiles and additional anti-ship missile batteries can be transferred there quite quickly. Week, maximum two. Aviation will arrive in a few hours. If we exclude the use of tactical nuclear weapons, are the Japanese ready to sacrifice a dozen ships and planes for the islands, which then also need to be kept? Even quickly occupying the islands, they will have to dig there so deep that it is easier to fill their island themselves.
    If ours decides to use tactical nuclear weapons, then the speech about the islands will generally somehow fade away at once. No one needs radioactive stones in the sea.
  30. +3
    28 July 2015 09: 23
    Quote: donavi49
    But helicopters fly from bases + helicopters from the fleet


    Well, yes, and the "Torah" is there for beauty?
  31. +6
    28 July 2015 09: 30
    Donavi49 is right, the Yapis have more bunts with China. There would be no available territory to lose, and not to squeeze out islands from the Russian Federation.
    And the Chinese remember very well how the Yapis behaved on their territory.
  32. Don
    +4
    28 July 2015 10: 19
    Remember, the main thing in military affairs is not intentions, but opportunities!
  33. +2
    28 July 2015 10: 35
    This is where a mutually beneficial alliance with China comes in handy. If we promise to cover up the Chinese in their seizure of disputed territories, then China will gladly support our Pacific Fleet with its fleet. And now all Japan’s self-defense forces, together with the US 7th Fleet, will no longer have fun. Three multipurpose 949s is a very big headache for the 7th fleet.
    A couple of divisions, even the S-300 on Iturup, will very cool the ardor of the Air Force and mattresses and Japs. 1905 there will be no more !!!!
  34. +7
    28 July 2015 10: 37
    The Kuril Islands are like a frontier post.
    Some Norwegians, Estonians or Azerbaijanis can pounce on one Russian frontier post with their "powerful" armed forces and seize it.
    Or even 2 frontier posts.
    And declare them their territory.
    BUT WHAT WILL BE THEN?
  35. +2
    28 July 2015 12: 07
    With the development of scientific and technical potential, oddly enough, humanity was dehumanized. Mercy for the defeated enemy has disappeared from the lexicon, the need for human resources is vanishingly small, natural and material resources will be in demand, and "extra (enemy) mouths" will be "neutralized" by all available means as soon as possible.
    And then at the UN General Assembly it will be possible with iron in his voice to ask bewildered: "- Japan? And where is this?"
  36. 0
    28 July 2015 12: 15
    Apparently for the samurai 2 atomic bombs are not enough, and they forgot who dropped them on them 'now it's our turn, and China won't stand aside' they think that we will fight with the Kalashs, this is another war. This is not with Libya and Iraq and others the war is when there is only one gates. So that Japan will not stay at all, there may be a Japanese diaspora in America, although the Americans are in question.
  37. 0
    28 July 2015 12: 52
    So everything is painted ... darkness. Like tomorrow will start ???. And all of you We know and foresee everything ?????? Complete nonsense. Here you can run into Japan for all sorts of difficulties. Tsushima will surrender to them in full. Russia is already different and Japan is not the same, although it wants to, but time is not hers. Computers and all that is their lot. But tanks and missiles are no longer their surroundings. After all, this is really all visible with the naked eye.
  38. -2
    28 July 2015 13: 01
    Fantasy Article
  39. +1
    28 July 2015 13: 22
    The author does not report that the Japanese have the largest small fleet in the world, consisting of fishing schooners, and one light plastic schooner can transport a platoon of soldiers. To destroy an armada of several thousand schooners rushing and maneuvering at high speed is very difficult. You can shoot at the schooners from the ground only by direct fire, i.e. flat trajectories, while the shells ricochet from the water and do not explode, and the shell pierces the schooner and does not always explode. True, there are not so many landing sites on the islands, and some are equipped with anti-air defense, but distant lands are not defended, because there’s not enough strength for everything. The islands are covered with folds of terrain, powerful vegetation and bamboo, landing in the thicket is easy to hide, so the battles will not be in the sea and air, but on the ground. But this should not be brought up - it is necessary to proactively destroy the landing force in the concentration ports.
  40. +1
    28 July 2015 13: 29
    First of all, of course, we must put in place the mattress covers. All the dirt from them. And put them on, they will not give orders to the Japs to rock the boat. But only if in 2018 we choose some kind of Medvedev, this will be a seam and we will remain without islands and humiliate them like that that we will return to the state of the ninetieth year. It is time to deal with the fifth column urgently not childishly ...
  41. +1
    28 July 2015 13: 33
    "There are 5 strategic nuclear missile-carrying submarines (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese)" - I did not understand something, are the Japanese so invulnerable? From the article I see: we must give up
  42. +2
    28 July 2015 13: 42
    there should not be a second "Tsushima", if you want peace, prepare for war, and this is the whole point ... hi
  43. -1
    28 July 2015 13: 49
    Did you see how old this scribbler is? He judging by the face and didn’t serve in the army. Article is bullshit. He just earns money like that. Military analyst.
  44. -1
    28 July 2015 13: 52
    Again, the article is all a scribe, everything is gone.
  45. +1
    28 July 2015 14: 23
    Everything goes to that Japan will increase its armed forces in a short period of time - and we must first recognize the high quality component that catches your eye, in 5 years Japan will be a serious independent force that Russia will have to reckon with - another question is that the armed forces are also growing in the region today China + North Korea, and to tell the truth, that’s why Japan started moving - the East is a delicate matter - the Chinese have always played a triple game and it is extremely difficult to predict the outcome of any conflict - one thing is clear, China or Japan, in which case they get a piece of their own - the conditions of the geopolitical game are changing - national law prevails over international - a large redistribution catalyst can be launched ... and to compare the armed forces in such a way as done in the article at least is incompetent
  46. +2
    28 July 2015 14: 44
    General conclusions:
    1. With 99,99%, Japan will strike at Sakhalin and the islands ...
    2. With 99,99% probability this will be a well-designed and unexpected blow ...
    3. With 99,99% they will occupy the islands very quickly ...
    4. With 99,99% of the fleet and other junk of the Russian Federation will fall apart immediately ...
    4. With 99,99%, this will be far from the end and the Yapi as usual screw up with forecasts, for the thoroughly worked out first tactical success is not a victory in the war ...
    1. 0
      28 July 2015 17: 45
      We will wait for 2025, and there we will see who is who.
  47. +3
    28 July 2015 15: 33
    Woke up! What they thought when they reduced the aviation fighter regiment at the Burevestnik airfield (Iturup), They blew up the houses of military towns. Complete idiocy, and now oh yes ah.
    1. +2
      28 July 2015 16: 26
      A regiment on; Falcon; near Yu-Shalinsk, and many others, etc. Unfortunately, this is not idiocy, but treason.
  48. +1
    28 July 2015 15: 58
    The Ministry of Health recommends kamikadzams at night to read the history of the way to the non-existence of the Quatun army in the last century. Instructive story!
  49. +1
    28 July 2015 16: 22
    If the narrow-eyed ones poke around, which in principle is unlikely, then you will have to see Hiroshima again in reality, only at least in the cube.
  50. -1
    28 July 2015 19: 18
    a complete Arctic fox .. there is no sheer ... considering that the population of Japan is the same as in Russia, we can safely say that we have a lid there if that .. definitely .. sad ...
    1. +1
      29 July 2015 01: 03
      the population is now a target
  51. 0
    28 July 2015 21: 38
    I already went to hide. It's scary strong. But seriously, they have very little chance in any of their undertakings. Even if they take them, they will immediately be taken back. )
  52. 0
    28 July 2015 22: 02
    Note that while Japan was ruled by samurai, it was an independent country. What Japan turned into after the samurai were exterminated, with the help of “our partners,” we are now seeing. The independence and identity of the Japanese were wiped off the face of the earth, just like their Herashima and Nagasaki.
  53. 0
    28 July 2015 22: 23
    It's not 1905. Even imagine yourself for a moment in the place of the Japanese warriors: Well, let’s say they quickly and brilliantly captured the Kuril Islands. Let’s even say they captured Sakhalin. What next? What's next? Negotiation? “We’re in the house and we’re not fighting anymore!” No, it won't work that way. It turns out that in order to capture the Kuril Islands, the Japanese will have to think about how to fight against all of Russia, which they cannot do alone...

    In general, I hope that Japan and India will be our “second front” in case any problems arise with the one and a half billion-strong China...
    1. 0
      13 August 2017 21: 42
      Japan is not an ally of Russia.1) Japan is occupied by the United States. 2) Japan has always fought against Russia...3) Japan is an ally of the USA and NATO...You shouldn’t count on India too much, since it conducts a lot of joint exercises with the Yankees.
  54. +3
    28 July 2015 23: 02
    Yes, there is no need for any militarization of the islands on our part, it just needs to be clearly and clearly stated to the Japanese - no one will fight with you - as soon as you climb a couple of poplars into your tambourine and FSE. They still remember Hiroshima, they’re just pretending to be fools. No 160 million of them will have time to flee anywhere; nuclear weapons have been stopping all the hotheads for 70 years and will continue to do so for the same amount of time. The main thing is not to be shy about voicing it, it’s not in vain that your grandfathers laid down their lives for it, it works like a clock and will continue to work.
  55. 0
    29 July 2015 06: 14
    “How and with what will Japan attack the Kuril Islands of Russia” - where do such gloomy thoughts come from? Here the author clearly overdid it! The Japanese are not that stupid! smile
  56. 0
    29 July 2015 17: 04
    Quote: Eugene-Eugene
    62 tank T-80BV is in service

    Not understood. All T-80 in the sun were going to be written off in 2014.


    That's where they were written off...
  57. 0
    31 July 2015 19: 35
    Everything is like in that saying: “If grandma had balls, then she would be a grandfather!”
  58. +1
    6 August 2015 12: 42
    The Japanese themselves will not risk going beyond the disputed islands, but if the United States gives its consent to participate, then war is possible. But mattress makers must understand that the doctrine for the defense of our country specifies the use of nuclear forces to defend the country. So nothing will happen between us and the Japs, no matter how much they want to recapture the islands. But now Russia should not concede the islands under any circumstances, since vile mattress pads will immediately end up there. But we should strengthen the Kuril Islands, and this is easier than quickly creating a fleet equivalent to the Japanese one.
  59. +1
    27 March 2017 17: 25
    Completely unprofessional comparison and analysis.
    firstly, the Japanese do not have a convenient airfield close to support the intervention in the Kuril Islands and therefore the impact of fighter aircraft would be weak.
    secondly, why install the S400, which covers 100 kilometers deep into Japanese territory?
    This is the same if the Japanese fleet is placed on a roadstead in neutral waters opposite Vladivostok.
    thirdly, why would there be long-range weapons on the forward islands at all, if they can be placed in the rear and this will be enough for support, but they will be less vulnerable and they will not dangerously cover a significant part of the Japanese territory. This is not a defensive strategy, but an offensive one. Are you planning to destroy Japan?
    fourthly, they somehow forgot that in the Far East there is a Tu-22 regiment, which is a very serious argument against any aggressive action in and near the Sea of ​​Japan.
    At the same time, the Japanese have very weak direct support forces for the landing, and even with a successful landing it is difficult to count on a quick capture of the island.
    Taking into account what has been said, even with the available forces, the Japanese have a chance to capture the island only if communications fail and they will do whatever they want there for a week in the roadstead, and the leadership of the Far Eastern Military District will drink this week. Otherwise, in 2-3 days, everything that sailed there will drown in Japan.
    Therefore, the only real thing to be afraid of is blockades.
    1. 0
      13 August 2017 21: 39
      The Tu-22 suffered losses even in the war with Georgia, and in the war with Japan they will be of little use. The author is right, the best defense is an offensive. Those who only defend themselves always lose.
      1. 0
        15 August 2017 09: 41
        Tu-22 was shot down in Georgia because it was used as a regular bomber
        and this is an aircraft capable of performing the functions of a strategic missile carrier.
        In this role it is extremely difficult to intercept him
        1. 0
          15 August 2017 14: 13
          The Tu-22 has old missiles with a range of only 600 km, which makes their launch problematic due to the presence in the air of Japanese and maybe American fighters (the US has a military treaty with Japan) F-15 and F-16. The most dangerous are the F-15s, which have a long flight range. In the event of a conflict with Japan, it will be necessary to attract Tu-95, Tu-160, with Kh-55 (range 2500 km) Kh-55SM (range 3500 km) Kh-555 (range 2000 km) Kh-101 (range 5500 km) missiles. There are no Caliber missiles in the Pacific Fleet yet, although they, with their range of 3500 km, would be useful there. So it will be necessary to strike from afar, at Japanese cities and with a nuclear charge, there is no other way.
          1. 0
            15 August 2017 14: 48
            however, Japan is very vulnerable to such joy.
            1. 0
              15 August 2017 16: 40
              Old missiles with a launch range of only 600 km will not scare or defeat Japan; their fighters will cover the Tu-22 even before they have time to fire the missiles...
              1. 0
                16 August 2017 09: 41
                Japan can protect the main island of Hokkaido from aviation only if it deploys a fleet in the Sea of ​​Japan, mobilizes all its aircraft and receives assistance from Akinawa and US global surveillance equipment - drones and satellites.
                Otherwise, they will be able to cover Tu-22 only if they substitute themselves.
                and even in this case, no one guarantees that about 40 missiles will not fall on Japan
                1. 0
                  16 August 2017 11: 18
                  There is no point in ruining crews by sending them into battle with old weapons when there are new Kh-101s and old Kh-55s that allow them to fire from distances exceeding the air defense range of Japan, but these missiles are on the Tu-95 and Tu-160
                  1. 0
                    16 August 2017 12: 54
                    there is no point in using old missiles when new ones have already been developed
                    this is cheaper than providing the possibility of using the Tu-160 and Tu-95.
    2. 0
      24 August 2017 18: 15
      blockade of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk? so this is already a reason to burn down Tokyo and others like Nagasaki and Hiroshima
  60. 0
    31 March 2017 14: 51
    It doesn’t matter whether sooner or later they will take these islands. Perhaps without war.
    1. 0
      13 August 2017 21: 36
      If the Russian leadership continues to kiss the ass of the drunk Boriska Yeltsin in the alcohol center, then there will be little left of Russia, and then of them themselves... All these traitors, the Gorbachevs, are kept by the United States as long as there is Russia, there will be no Russia and the Gorbachevs will be beheaded like a khan Mama, there will be no need for them...
  61. 0
    April 3 2017 14: 30
    In 1903-04 there was also a lot of talk about how they wouldn’t dare and would throw our hats at us.....the result? With the subsequent revolution! But then the forces were almost equal. Remoteness of bases, lack of support, the Pacific Fleet was always in the role of a stepchild.
    We have no allies! China will not join in the redistribution of the pie immediately after the scales tip in our direction.
  62. 0
    April 3 2017 15: 07
    There are nuclear charges buried in the depths of the Kuril Islands, they should know.
  63. +1
    April 10 2017 15: 57
    there is only one conclusion. we must forestall the aggressor and launch preemptive strikes
    1. 0
      13 August 2017 21: 33
      This is also a good idea. As soon as the Japanese begin landing troops on ships, launch nuclear strikes on Japanese military bases so that they do not have time to go to sea.
  64. 0
    April 29 2017 20: 15
    Haha, I’m writing from back in 2017. The Japanese don't give a fuck about writing on us, it's like writing on an electrical wire. Everyone will squeal and their islands will immediately drown. because the people will be very happy and the president will help this
  65. 0
    26 July 2017 16: 36
    Quote: The Stoker
    So if it weren’t for the Jews who brought mother the revolution to Russia, if it weren’t for the Jews who didn’t live in the USSR, they had to see “freedom”, then everything would be different ...

    There was freedom. More than enough. In the Far East. Only the capital was not Jerusalem, but Birobidzhan.
  66. 0
    26 July 2017 16: 46
    Quote: Simara
    Let’s say that I couldn’t even think that after the Second World Ur there still exist somewhere, why then call it stupid? and with regard to everything else ... well, you see ... Japan, even in theory, does not consider the possibility of a forceful solution to the issue of the Kuril Islands ... well, nothing ... and it's not about the URs but in the Armed Forces ...

    After the war there were URs throughout the Far East. Against China, against Japan.
  67. +1
    10 August 2017 13: 01
    Quote: Decathlon
    "5 strategic nuclear missile submarines (though this is not a means of war with the Japanese)"
    And why is that?! Due to moral, ethical or tactical-technical considerations ?! You can probably choose Japanese military enlistment offices as goals to reduce the mobilization resource ... Only military enlistment offices! No peaceful goals! feel

    I agree, one military registration and enlistment office is one megaton
  68. +1
    13 August 2017 21: 31
    In the event of an attack on the Kuril Islands, Russia must use nuclear weapons and destroy Japan completely, this will serve as a lesson to others and the United States first of all... This is necessary so that any aggressor knows that his death lives in Russia...
  69. 0
    24 August 2017 18: 10
    according to the military doctrine of the Russian Federation, in an attack on the Kuril Islands, a nuclear strike will be launched on the territory of Japan or another aggressor, therefore, both strategic nuclear submarines and ground-based systems can be used; after Japan’s attack on the Russian Federation, taking into account its small territory and dense population, Japan will simply stop exist
  70. +1
    19 March 2018 10: 47
    You need to think about this: how will the Japanese storm the Kuril Islands? And what will the Finns use to storm our north, or the Ukrainians use Rostov? The Japanese have enough hemorrhoids with China to kick against a nuclear power, only the patient will decide. They are more worried about the other islands, so that they don’t get shoals.
    1. 0
      30 January 2019 23: 01
      Yes, this is Nersisyan's nonsense
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    30 January 2019 23: 00
    Woe is analyst Nersisyan! To suck the problem out of thin air and not give a complete picture of the current situation, the huge risks, Japanese losses and Russia’s capabilities to protect the Kuril Islands, and indeed the Far Eastern territory of the Russian Federation, is incompetence, lack of respect for the reader, or a careless attitude. I think both. This is clearly visible in many of his articles.