Mikhail Leontyev: “Israelis must understand who Bandera is” (9 channel, Israel)

“We were just sent far away,” admitted Vladimir Putin. And he added that the Russian army is polite, but formidable. So, really, war is coming soon? In any case, everyone is now looking for a reason. Well, it would seem, and here the director of the bank - even such a large one like VTB?

Meanwhile, Andrei Kostin this week declared that the disconnection of Russian banks from the international payment system SWIFT would mean war. And, of course, we will urgently need to send the American ambassador from Russia, although this system is Belgian.

But, incidentally, it does not matter. The important thing is that there is more and more talk about the military scenario, and Russian television is spreading this topic. We criticized the Russian authorities a lot, and therefore we considered it necessary to give the podium to its mouthpiece, the journalist Mikhail Leontyev. Interview with him, we recorded the day before.



Dmitry Dubov: Mikhail Vladimirovich, hello. Do you think the current heat of international passions has already matured to the real threat of nuclear war?

Mikhail Leontyev: Well, in fact, the decision was made to slow, I emphasize: slow strangulation of Russia. That is, we are practically told that either you will perish or a draw. I now do not understand what place our partners, Western ones, generally think in, offering such a strange choice. We do not offer them a choice: die or a draw. Do they really want a draw? Because in reality it turns out that Russia has no other choice. In fact, indeed, peace, that is, salvation from a military catastrophe, depends on the ability of our, it means, partners, to understand that Russia will certainly use nuclear weapons. weapon, if she will face the threat of death. I have said many times that the basis of our relations with the United States is not the hydrocarbon trade, but the doctrine of mutual guaranteed non-destruction. And everything else - it is already peace, friendship, chewing gum, and it is held on this solid foundation, and this foundation must be borne in mind.

Dmitry Dubov: Nobody talks about peace and chewing on the background of the nuclear threat and Russia's aggressive policy in the post-Soviet space. So maybe leave the neighbors alone?

Mikhail Leontyev: You are an Israeli journalist. Do you really can in your right mind and solid memory say that Russia annexed the Crimea, and there are some separatists in Ukraine? There are no Russian separatists! We were practically attacked.

Dmitry Dubov: Who! Who attacked you?

Mikhail Leontyev: A special operation is underway, the goal of which is to involve Russia in this conflict. Because the world situation from the point of view of the United States is such that they needed a new cold war. They needed a new opponent. We resisted this in every way. And still resist. "We behave aggressively." Well, come back! Well, aren't you ashamed? Well guys, well? Especially - Israel. We very much appreciate that Israel in this position, in this situation, takes an extremely restrained position, I would even say friendly to Russia. We really appreciate it.

Dmitry Dubov: Well, thank you for appreciating, of course, but let's answer the question again - who attacked Russia, who crossed the border of the Russian Federation?

Mikhail Leontyev: Do you understand that Russians and Ukrainians are one people? When people with portraits of Bandera begin to walk around Ukraine ... Well, the Israelis need to understand who Bandera is? This is a Bandera power! We can not accept the departure of Ukraine under the Bandera power.

Dmitry Dubov: Wait! I tell you about one thing, and you tell me about something else. The nationalists did not go to the parliament of Ukraine.


Mikhail Leontyev: In Ukraine, the vast majority of the population is silent gloomily. Except for a few western areas. Who profess a certain ideology. He inspired at a known time in a known way. And what, by the way, this ideology means for the Jewish population is very well known.

Dmitry Dubov: Chairman of the Parliament - Groisman, a Jew by nationality.

Mikhail Leontyev: Yes, and there is Kolomoisky, you watch his videos, where he offered ten thousand for Moskal's head, yes? Look, here Kolomoisky is a shame of the Jewish people. Look at this nits!

Dmitry Dubov: So, you know, let's still observe the elementary framework of decency.

Mikhail Leontyev: Is Russia bombing Donetsk? Russia is bombing Lugansk, right? Are our planes flying there? Russia, perhaps, be hit by this unfortunate "Boeing" fighter?

Dmitry Dubov: Listen, the "Boeing" is under investigation. Maybe it is the separatists?

Mikhail Leontyev: Maybe even so. But you have no information. If you seriously stop here and think, you will admit that you have no information, but there are unsubstantiated accusations, propaganda. Goebbels propaganda!

Dmitry Dubov: Propaganda is when Russian channels are invented history about the crucified boy, sorry.

Mikhail Leontyev: A country that decides to shoot down a civilian aircraft with the aim of blaming Russia - well, what is this, this is the Hitler method.

Dmitry Dubov: But there are cadres, there are cadres of how separatists from residential areas are shelling ...

Mikhail Leontyev: But the plane is shot from aviation guns! There are traces!

Dmitry Dubov: Once again I ask - here are some frames that show, we are now showing them directly, the rockets are launched from the installation, which is located behind the residential building, the Donetsk airport is being fired.

Mikhail Leontyev: At the Donetsk airport, there are no visitors to the airport; by the way, they were shot at the time of the attack on this airport, right? There are no people there, there are Ukrainian power structures, and on the other hand - power structures of the so-called unrecognized republics. And there is a fight! There is a fight, well, and what's new about it? Civil War.

Dmitry Dubov: And then, as a result of the return fire, the inhabitants perish ...

Mikhail Leontyev: What kind of inhabitants? What kind of residents can be in a combat area? Well, someone in the basement ... in Stalingrad, people also hid in the basement, and where, if they have nowhere to go? Retracted, scum. And the army dragged. And the Security Service did not even want the special forces to fight. This is a tragedy, a colossal tragedy for a whole nation, you know? And here you have these same propaganda nonsense, about "Russia is behaving aggressively." If Russia behaved aggressively, there would be no Ukraine for a long time, well, you know perfectly well, it’s just ridiculous.

Dmitry Dubov: Not at all funny. Aggressive politics is when they threaten with nuclear weapons. And direct aggression is a war in Georgia.

Mikhail Leontyev: The Georgian army attacked primarily the positions of Russian peacekeepers. Russian soldiers were killed. Russia was the guarantor, the internationally recognized guarantor of the non-resolution of the conflict of interethnic by force.

Dmitry Dubov: Peacekeepers did not have a mandate to fight. Russia introduced a regular army, and where are the peacekeepers? When there was an operation in Chechnya, not a single state rushed to save the Chechens ...

Mikhail Leontiev: Listen, well, you tell me. Israel when enters the army in Lebanon, for any reason?

Dmitry Dubov: Israel for any reason? Georgia, like Lebanon, shelled Russia? You what?

Mikhail Leontyev: Well listen, here we are, our company has a plant in Lysychansk, right? They fired at the plant. That's how you imagine the militants, they sat down at the refinery? Are they crazy or what?

Dmitry Dubov: Well, what Ukrainian separatists are doing is duplicating the actions of Hamas.

Mikhail Leontyev: In a war, residential buildings are used as objects of war, of course. What do you wonder? I do not know, this is a meaningless conversation, let's finish it.

Comments

[SVAROGE]

Misha, Misha, the Israelis understand perfectly well who is who .... To whom do you sing these praises?
They themselves create them ....., for many centuries!

[domokl]

Quote: SVAROGE

Israelis understand perfectly who is who

But I got the impression that the presenter completely refutes your statement. He is confident that Russia is fighting and pushing through precisely this idea ...
For a long time I have been looking with some doubt at the progressive part of the people, and anyone who understands everything perfectly. Understands what? There is nothing further than lyalya-poplar ... And to say, The time will come and everyone will understand, stupid. The mention in this plan is very indicative Georgia ... Investigation and everything else, we are right ... but what did the jurgalist say?
No, this material once again showed that for the sake of the dough you can forget everything, even the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews at the hands of Bandera ..

[Bykov.]

Quote: domokl

No, this material once again showed that for the sake of the dough you can forget everything, even the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews at the hands of Bandera ..

Nothing! They (Bandera) will soon remind them, refresh their memory.

[mirag2]

Good morning.
Last year, Channel 9 on one of the Israeli resources accused the pro-Russian position.

[Bykov.]

Quote: mirag2

Last year, Channel 9 on one of the Israeli resources accused the pro-Russian position.

Here are robots and are "re-educated" exponentially.

[domokl]

Quote: Bulls.

They (Bandera) will soon remind them, refresh their memory.

Again, I will give an excerpt from the questions .. More precisely, I don’t want to repeat myself. The Speaker of the Rada is a Jew .. And this is perceived by the Israelis as a sign of the absence of fascism ...

[Net]

And do not put pressure on the sore spot of the Israelis - fascism. Is it really incomprehensible that they give such definitions and condemnations only when it is beneficial to them? What the entire Jewish community of the former Ukraine shouted about, that this does not concern us, this is not our business. Indeed, what does it matter to them that the Nazis are killing Russians, if it does not concern the Jews themselves? "Eternal guests" in any country that has sheltered them in its repertoire. Much did they resent the "giving hand" of the United States, which was harboring Nazi criminals? How did they react to the followers of the founder of integral nationalism Dontsov in the entire short history of the Independent? While them, THEM personally does not concern, let them do what they want. That is why clumsy attempts to point them to their enemies, that there are terrorists in Syria, and Bandera's supporters in Ukraine, are touching. Their sensitivity to this issue is incredibly exacerbated only when it is possible to get millions in compensation. A game of patriotic feelings, this is all there in Eretz Yisrael, but here is just a calculation.

[gorefest7777]

It’s sad ... but there is a definition of Zionism, omitting the rest is one of the forms of Nazism ...

[Ermak]

No, this material once again showed that for the sake of the dough you can forget everything, even the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews at the hands of Bandera ..

And how in the days of Yeltsin, in 96, the whole stage organized a tour, is that in the name of that devastation or the drunkenness of Yeltsin? This answer is many years old and it is one - money and cowardice.
In general, a strange interview. More like an interrogation or a "trial" or an argument. The host actively promotes his own opinion, rather than trying to listen.

[Turkir]

The host is the one who broadcasts on TV.
And here, someone who does not even interview, but imposes his vision. This is not a journalist, but a propagandist. He prompts answers and argues (!) With the person he is interviewing.
Such journalists need to be driven into three necks.
Counterargument with a boy, the top professionalism.

[Gans1234]

But anyway - this interview - Leontief's failure - he was too angry and was not assembled in order to respond constructively

[jjj]

Quote: Ermak

In general, a strange interview. More like an interrogation or a "trial" or an argument. The host actively promotes his own opinion, rather than trying to listen.

And this is such freedom of speech

[Gans1234]

Totally agree.
Hard poll for freedom of speech and democracy is one thing
And this one always frowns, he almost jerked at the answers, jumped from one to another in order to "catch", but at the same time compared a chicken egg, an ostrich egg and a golf ball with each other. Well, completely different situations: Chechnya, and Ossetia 08, and Kosovo, and Ukraine - prerequisites, reasons, methods of war - all different
Conversation of a biased journalist with a biased interlocutor.
Although I agree with Leontyev
About the good standard of Western journalism, I repeat, I am completely and completely in favor, but this is not about this bloke

[Egor65g]

The second the oldest profession, What would you like.

[Turkir]

We want the representatives of the "second oldest profession" to be the same professionals as representatives of the "first oldest profession".
And what you want, we are so demanding.

[Sigizbarn]

9 by the way from the very beginning headed for anti-Russian controversy. The funny thing is that their opinion absolutely does not reflect the opinion of the majority of Russian-speaking Russians. The main audience of this channel is pensioners. Therefore, they are trying to present their vision of the situation.
And what would not go far then the owners of the channel are Russian oligarchs. So the whole interview is a mirror image of the Russian 5th column.
Plus, I want to note the completely non-professional behavior of a 9-journalist and violation of all the rules of interviewing.
9-ku has long been held by the yellow press.

[siberalt]

Dmitry Dubov was born in Tashkent, at 22 he left for a good life in Israel, Russophobe, collaborates with Echo of Moscow.

[pavel_SPB]

Dmitry Dubov is somehow strange or something ... to say the least.

[Muadipus]

Quote: siberalt

Dmitry Dubov was born in Tashkent, at 22 he left for a good life in Israel, Russophobe, collaborates with Echo of Moscow.

Quote: pavel_SPB

Dmitry Dubov is somehow strange or something ... to say the least.

To the count of him!

[Shishiga]

But I got the impression that the presenter completely refutes your statement. He is confident that Russia is fighting and pushing through precisely this idea.

Here soon

.He is convinced that Russia is fighting and pushing through precisely this idea.

Although he is more truly

pushing through this very thought

[obraztsov]

Unfortunately, Mikhail Leontyev has a lot of information, but it is not laid out in the head on the shelves, not clearly structured. Therefore, he was unable to give reasoned answers to the questions of the journalist. They jumped from topic to topic and as a result did not agree on anything.

Yes, Ukraine did not attack us, but under the blow provoked by the West, there were millions of Russians living in Ukraine. The vital interests of Russia were affected.

Yes, Georgia did not attack Russia, but it attacked our peacekeepers and the Ossetian population, which they guarded, was under attack.

And between the war in Chechnya and in New Russia there are simply a huge number of differences.

[Sid.74]

Wait! I tell you about one thing, and you tell me about something else. The nationalists did not go to the parliament of Ukraine.

What kind of club is this Dubov? And Mosiychuk, Yarosh, Levus, Birch and others. Who is this?
Che democrats? Ugh Mlyn!
In general, the Israeli analogue of "rain"! The same fraudulent liberals! And the whole conversation was based on the postulate "there is no fascism in Ukraine!"

Who the hell then?
About the crucified boy remembering this type began, the favorite trick of liberals and clowns from Ukraine on all TV show.To the number of lies that the EU, USA, Ukraine and other "freedom-loving media" do not see point-blank?
Why are all Russophobes from demshiz and type "human rights activists" Jews?
The question is of course rhetorical!

[andj61]

Quote: Sid.74

About this crucified boy, he began to recall this type, a favorite method of liberalists and clowns from Ukraine on all TV shows.

About the crucified boy - not an invention of Russian propaganda, but the direct speech of a refugee woman from Slavyansk - he saw the report himself. The commentary of the announcer - this is not confirmed by any other sources, it is impossible to believe in it - decide for yourself, true or not. It may have fallen short, but it didn’t seem to be staged. Given the real numerous corpses of those killed by the Nazi Guards - all is not so obvious. To confirm or refute this in the current conditions is simply unrealistic.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Sid.74

And the whole conversation was based on the postulate "there is no fascism in Ukraine"!

Unfortunately, I never saw an opportunity to leave a comment on the Channel 9 website. Otherwise, I would recommend putting these pictures there. We don't need them! We already know that. Right?

[Denis 60 rus]

neither Leontiev, nor anyone else can prove anything to such journalists with an arrogant and condescending smile. As they say, pisses in the eye are all God's dew.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: obraztsov

. They jumped from topic to topic and as a result did not agree on anything.

Jumping from one topic to another is such an action plan. Having such a plan will not go astray! His opponent will beat. What ultimately happened.

[siberalt]

You're not right. The question should not contain statements opposite to the expected answer. This is called provocative style, which results in the respondent's response rather than responses. Like, "how much is twice two four?" It's just that Mikhail ran into a "fake journalist" working for external effects in the genre of political clownery.

[vrach]

In this interview, Leontiev is too slurred, whoever has someone, and his tongue should be suspended, and such a feeling forgot all the arguments and it all came down to a market crush. Let then learn from the GDP.
For those grandmothers that he receives and the image that he has, everything must bounce off his teeth. But it turns out as if he had been drunk in a tavern and got confused and let's take an interview. If you’re not ready, not assembled, headache, refuse to comment, how can such a thing be reminded to a professional of the ideological front ?!
All of this is about giving the way to the more capable, not tired.

[Turkir]

In this interview, Leontiev is too slurred

Vorn does not peck out the crow's eye.

[Alibekulu]

Well here we see an example of a classic high-class Jewish trolling, with an Israeli quality mark Dmitry Dubov, figuratively speaking, simply when he crowded the Kremlin’s propagandon Mikhail Leontyev. Well, what can I say bravo Dmitry
On the other hand, the interview shows the attitude of Western society to the situation around Ukraine and, as we see, it is radically different from the Russian point of view ..

Quote: Smert Nik1

My 11-year-old daughter, who understands Russian quite well, having watched a Russian TV show once, asked me in a childish way: "Dad, why are they lying like that?"

Shaheed, whose cow mumbled ..
Didn’t you shamelessly carry uhhn about the pogroms in 1986 and about the extrusion of Russians in Petropavlovsk ..

[Turkir]

It seems to you.
Dubov showed his extreme lack of professionalism i.e. your stupidity.

[andj61]

Quote: Alibekulu

Whose cow mumbled ..

Right! And I somehow forgot about it!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Alibekulu

Didn’t you shamelessly carry uhhn about the pogroms in 1986 and about the extrusion of Russians in Petropavlovsk ..

Well, you can become a martyr if you come to Gaza, there are people like you there. And then you can meet with me or with other Israelis. Do not worry 72 virgins will be provided to you.


They were not there? Pogroms of Russians in 1986?
Do you remember the answer that was given in that topic. Let me remind you of it:

http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1412/93/f065076e1e03.jpg

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Well, you can become a martyr if you come to Gaza, there are people like you there. And then you can meet with me or with other Israelis. Do not worry 72 virgins will be provided to you.

Become as smart as you No, thank you .. You don't jump into Gaza, if it itches so much - march to the airport for a ticket to Kazakhstan. At the same time, grab your friend, and "those who escaped from" amusing pogroms "in Kazakhstan", they will have separate questions about throws. We don't promise 72 virgins, but we'll come up with a thread ...

Quote: Smert Nik1

Let me remind you of it:

Miracle, you bring me my comment ..

Quote: Smert Nik1

They were not there? Pogroms of Russians in 1986?

I will answer in your style - 1. I expect from you references to serious sources. (C) Shaheed and links to Vedic sites are not necessary. I already laughed
-2. outright lie, not confirmed by anything. A few morons (which are everywhere) are far from the majority. (C) Egor65G

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Alibekulu

Miracle, you bring me my comment ..

Your sparkling mind is simply amazing. Naturally, I made your comment so that everyone would appreciate your love for the Russians. For example, such a passage:

"Why squeeze. Themselves with songs and dances. I didn't even have to squeeze out."

Quote: Alibekulu

I will answer in your style - 1. I expect from you references to serious sources. (C)

No problem. Here is a quote:

“Those gathered in the square with loud shouts rushed to storm the building of the Central Committee, trying to overturn the ranks of soldiers, militia and border guards. A fight ensued. Stakes, reinforcement bars, stones were used, the soldiers were forced to use belts and clubs. The number of pogromists multiplied. Attempts to pacify the crowd turned out to be There were wounded on both sides, and a local TV worker was brutally killed. I saw the video footage later, and I was struck by the brutality of the excited crowd. "


Taken from here:

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And here is another quote:
"People fled from Kazakhstan, abandoned 100-200 hectares of land"


http://www.rusproject.org/node/1154

[Death Nik1]

And here's the catch. It is testified here that the Russians fled from Kazakhstan due to ethnic rather than economic pressure:

“After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the situation for the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan has deteriorated. Serious and even life-threatening violence was used against all family members. did not provide them with any assistance and protection, but on the contrary, the statement about the incident was torn apart and threatening to warn them not to file complaints with the higher authorities.
Citizen X was gang-raped. Physical violence was applied to citizen X by the police, beating, which can be compared with torture or torture. They burned him with lighters, imprisoned him in the so-called. an electric chair, to which 220 volts of electricity was connected, was beaten until unconscious, forced to look at a lamp with a bright electric light, etc. After being tortured, unconscious and multiple bodily injuries, they took him out of town and left him in a mountainous area near the road, where he was found and taken to hospital. The family was also subjected to prolonged telephone terror and their home was ransacked and looted. They tried to hide, but failed and were found all the time. It would have been pointless to move to another region of Kazakhstan, since the population registration system (registration) would have led their pursuers to find them in the new region. In villages and rural areas, the situation for ethnic minorities is much worse than in big cities. There is complete lawlessness. "

URL:

http://www.jurist-madeleinekaarik.se/glavnaya/15-reshenija-migracionnoj-sluzhby/
42-political-refugee-status-to-ethnic-russian-from-kazakhstan

[Talgat]

Dear readers of the site - think for yourself what is the goal pursued by the author from Israel "suicide bomber" when he publishes this vile post here? He is clearly not motivated by concern for the "oppressed Russians in KZ"

This is obviously a provocation once - secondly, inciting ethnic hatred (we have an article in the Criminal Code)

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Talgat

Dear readers of the site - think for yourself what is the goal pursued by the author from Israel "suicide bomber" when he publishes this vile post here? He is clearly not motivated by concern for the "oppressed Russians in KZ"

Just because you don't like a post doesn't make it disgusting. I will just allow myself to recall the entire history of events. Representatives of sunny Kazakhstan reproached the Israelis for the fact that they (the Israelis) treat the Arabs badly (it happened not in this topic, but in yesterday's about Syria). That's right, Israel is hardly an example of good treatment of Hezbollah, Assad and Hamas. However, if Messrs. Kazakhs are so worried about injustice 5000 km away from their home, they should all the more worry about injustice that occurs in their home. And here the most interesting thing happens. First, I was told that the 1986 pogroms "did not exist." But this is ridiculous, the internet is full of links and testimonies. Now they say that there is no persecution of Russians in the ROK. However, only slightly digging into this topic, it turns out that there is not just persecution, it is about the very real forced transfer of the Russian-speaking population to the Republic of Kazakhstan.

[Death Nik1]

There is no need to go far for evidence. This has already been written on this resource:

Quote: s30461

My friend, there is a big difference: to get under the distribution simply by meeting scumbags or being killed because you are Russian (or German, or Mordvin). I bring facts from the life of my family and our friends from 1990 to 1995.
1. We left after massacring the family of our neighbors and came to us, but we fought back. The police did not accept the application, and after seeing what these monsters did with the Kim family, we moved to our relatives the same day. After 3 days, the director of the furniture factory "MEREY" was in charge of the neighbor's house and ours. Check who now lives at the address: Alma-Ata, st. Kazakpaeva, d.77. This is 1992. May.
2. My uncle Alexander Fedorovich Golikov and his family. He worked as the head of the research group of the Alma-Ata Anti-Plague Institute. Nailed to a workbench with slate nails and burned alive with a blowtorch in his garage. Here they raped and killed their wife and daughter. Father-in-law died here from a heart attack. The remains of the mother-in-law have not been found. A few days before that, Kazakhs had come to him and offered to change the house for a Biryusa refrigerator. Who do you think took over his house? That's right, Kazakhs. In hot pursuit, 4 people were detained, all were released without even receiving a suspended sentence, although there were 3 witnesses who identified them and fingerprints on the doors and blowtorch. This is 1995.
3. A friend of my older brother is Eugene Ichthios (German). He died with his family. According to investigators, he killed everyone (his wife, 2 children and his mother) in a state of alcoholic psychosis. Then he hanged himself. When I saw his corpse and the stool with which he allegedly jumped, the conclusion was obvious: to reach the loop he needed another such stool. In addition, the hands below the wrist were black with traces of a rope that cut into the skin to the blood. The dog (St. Bernard) was shot from a pistol. But for the investigation, these are not arguments. Two weeks later, new owners entered the house - the Kazakhs. This is 1991. Address: Almaty, st. Kazakpayev d. 62. Check.
3. Shipilov Anatoly Veniaminovich - Honored Artist of the Kazakh SSR. One of the developers of ornaments and national style for the Kazakh people. Killed with his wife in June 1993. The house is populated in a month. The criminal case was lost. The daughter tried to get the investigation to continue, but to no avail.
4. Bannikov Dmitry Vladimirovich. The dispatcher of the airport of Almaty. Killed 100 meters from the house. Scalped, scorched eyes. Two Kazakhs came right to the funeral of their parents and warned that if they did not voluntarily leave the house during the day, their daughter would be next. This is 1995. Alma-Ata, st. Tashkent d.23.
5. Velikhova Alena Alexandrovna. 21 years old. Beauty and smart. Grew with her grandmother - parents died. Found in a grove near City Hospital No. 7. She was raped and tied to pipes of a heating main, died from thermal burns and pain shock. At the time of death, she was pregnant at 9 months. 3 people were detained - two Kazakhs and a Uighur. Sentenced to suspended sentences and released in the courtroom. Grandmother went crazy after the death of her granddaughter. In less than 40 days, the Kazakhs settled in the house. This is 1991. Alma-Ata, st. Quiet d.6

The responses of proud nomads are also characteristic. Unable to bring arguments, personal insults and threats of KAZAKH criminal prosecution begin. I just froze in my veins from a similar threat. After all, there is no worse threat in Israel than the Kazakh police. I still hope that you, Messrs. Kazakhs, will return to the mortal land and begin to evaluate reality adequately.

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Smert Nik1

There is no need to go far for evidence. This has already been written on this resource:

I suggested that the opponent cite serious sources as a justification for his point of view. But, as you can see, I can’t wait for anything except the havnosbros from the Internet dumps.
To you near shahid, I would advise you to watch the film “Present to Stalin” about the difficult fate of the little Jewish boy Sabyr (Sasha), who in Kazakhstan ends up in 1949. The main character - a Jewish orphan boy Sasha (Sabyr) - travels with his grandfather to Kazakhstan in a carriage for deportees. On the way, grandfather dies, and the baby himself never for a minute ceases to think about the arrested parents. He does not suspect that they are no longer alive. Upon arrival in a remote Kazakh village, Sasha is saved from death by a lineman, Kasim, who replaces his dead parents. In this aul, Sasha finds family and friends. Now he calls Kasym- “ata”, which means “grandfather”, begins to speak Kazakh, sings Kazakh songs. The shaman, who performed the rite of returning the boy to life, gave him a middle name - Sabyr (Kaz. Patient). After many years, approximately at the present time, having made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, he makes another “pilgrimage”, to another holy place for him — to that very village (more precisely, to the place where that village stood, since after the nuclear the explosion, neither from him nor from its inhabitants, there was practically nothing left but memorial plates on the graves), which forever remained in his memory. The role of the elderly Sasha was played by the Israeli writer David Markish, whose memories formed the basis of the film. The film received the Grand Prix of the first international film festival “East & West. Classic and Vanguard ”, opened the 13th Busan Film Festival in Korea, and a draft version of this film was shown at the Berlin and Cannes film festivals. “We chose this film because it is very unusual: there is a terrific, humane story, and a great play of actors, and steppe romance. Our viewers are not familiar with Kazakhstan cinema. This is what attracted us, ”commented Kim Dong Ho, director general of the festival.

Quote: Smert Nik1

Unable to bring arguments, personal insults and threats of KAZAKH criminal prosecution begin.

Do not misinterpret, it was proposed to decide in the legal field. That the relevant structures would check the given information, and the perpetrators, if any, have suffered well-deserved punishment. If the lie, which is most likely, then he had to answer for slander and inciting ethnic hatred.

[Death Nik1]

Finally, I want to say goodbye to you with the words of the same Russian guy whose family you kicked out and, in addition, was cheated on the same resource:

Quote: s30461

I wish you to survive all that we experienced when the Kazakhs staged the Russian genocide. We don’t need more than we got, just to return to you all the grief that you brought to us in gratitude for saving the Kazakhs from total extermination by the Dzungars, Uzbeks and Chinese. Although you even died out from syphilis and bloody brawls without them, it’s not bad.

[Alibekulu]

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Your sparkling mind is simply amazing.

Compared to yours, sickly - yes

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Naturally, I made your comment so that everyone would appreciate your love for the Russians.

You also have problems with the analysis of what you have read. I wrote that the Russians left on their own and, accordingly, they could not even potentially "squeeze out" someone because they emigrated themselves ..

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Taken from here:

I wrote that1. I expect from you references to serious sources. (C) Shaheed
Relying on Wikipedia as a serious source is a very bad idea ..

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quote: "People fled from Kazakhstan, abandoned 100-200 hectares of land"

If you only knew how many Kazakhs, they abandoned land and more than 200 hectares. In the 90s. as one of the results of the collapse of the USSR and the subsequent collapse of the ek-ki aul was destroyed, and the Kazakhs, like the Russians, fled to the cities out of despair. Yes, by the way, in the Russian Federation in the 90s, they massively threw land .. And then what conclusions to draw. And by the way, in the above article, more is said about the attitude towards "refugees" in the Russian Federation.

There is complete lawlessness. "

Yes, they won't think of anything to stay in the "decaying West" .. A typical story in the style of a "crucified boy in Slavyansk" ..

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Now they say that there is no persecution of Russians in the Republic of Kazakhstan. However, only slightly digging this topic, it turns out that there is not just persecution, it is a question of the real forced transfer of the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan.

Well, if you follow your idiotic logic, then the relocation of approximately one and a half million Jews from the Russian Federation can be considered as a forced transfer to Israel ?! So, and consider your move to Gaza as a result of coercion and squeezing ?!

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But this is ridiculous, the Internet is full of links and evidence.

Nu, as it were, is ridiculous and childishly absurd, the very attempt to appeal to the Internet. Which is teeming with links and "testimonies" about the worldwide Jidomasson conspiracy, the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" and the Judeo-Banders And these links and "testimonies" are millions of times more than the information about "squeezing Russians into K-no" ..

[Alibekulu]

Shahid, during the aforementioned period of the legendary "era of persecution of Russians in Kazakhstan", Jewish writers Maurice Semashko and Yuri Gert lived in Kazakhstan.
Simashko (real name Shamis), author of numerous works. Simashko's works have been translated into more than 40 languages. People's writer K-na. Based on his story "Gu-ga", a feature film about penal companies, very popular in the early 90s, was filmed. Laureate of the Kazakhstani Presidential Prize for Peace and Spiritual Accord. Laureate of the 1986 Abai literary prize for the translation into Russian of I. Esenberlin's trilogy "Nomads". Nominated by Kazakhstan for the Nobel Prize in Literature. M. Simashko: “Considering this to a large extent a fantasy, I did not give consent for 3 years. I agreed only because it was indicative in itself. If a Turkic, Muslim country nominates a Russian Jewish writer for the highest prize today, a potential a citizen of Israel (everyone knew about my departure), that means, in spite of everything, something is radically changing in the world. "
Yuri Mikh. Geert is a writer and journalist. Subsequently, becoming a well-known writer in K-not, he worked in the literary and art magazine "Prostor". Geert is the author of The Who, If Not You ?, Night of Predestination.
I should think of bringing 2 cases from the life of writers as a litmus test characterizing them as personalities:
I. Maurice Simashko, not far from his death, wrote an open letter to the Nobel Prize laureate Ross. physicist Zhores Alferov (Premonition of a pogrom), where he expressed concern about the growth of anti-Semitism in Russia.
II. In 1987, with perestroika, a powerful upsurge of nationalist and anti-Semitic sentiments was everywhere observed, and Marina Tsvetaeva's essay Volniy Proezd was sent to the magazine. Although U. Gert was the editor-in-chief of the prose department and a member of the editorial board, he was the last to know about this essay after all the other editorial staff read and approved it. The essay described how, in September, the hungry 1918 Tsvetaeva went for groceries to the Tula province and stopped in the house where the food detachment commander lived, “a Jew with a bar of gold around his neck”. An exorbitant passion for gold was also full of his wife, of course, also a Jew. The “Oprichniki”, that is, the food detachments, robbed and squeezed every last drop from the suffering people. Moreover, the main thing in them is not that they were engaged in robbery and violence, but that most of them were Jews. Geert was well acquainted with the work of Marina Tsvetaeva, her tragic fate and a terrible ending. Reckless directness and a life full of suffering made it almost a saint in his eyes. Nevertheless, he was categorically against the publication of this essay, in which Jews, for the sake of widespread anti-Semitic stereotypes, again, for the umpteenth time, were portrayed as double-faced, predatory, and cruel destroyers of Russia. Y. Gert alone opposed the publication of the essay, patiently and persistently explaining his position to former friends and colleagues. However, no one supported him. When the editors, ignoring his opinion, decided to print, he left the magazine.
From the above examples, it is clear that they are extraordinary individuals with a keen sense of justice and a clearly expressed civic position. Which they were ready to defend despite the consequences associated with this. But why did these, so respected writers and public figures, in no way react to, I quote - the forced transfer of the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan ?!
By which, they are people of great and complex fate, could not pass by ?!

[Death Nik1]

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Compared to yours, sickly - yes

Where can I, an ordinary Jew, to the great nomadic thinker of all times and peoples. Note only that megalomania does not compensate for the lack of brain matter or lack of education. He dragged here the sheets of some Jewish-Kazakh writers. Why all this?
I'm not going to get into your relationship with the Russians. You are trying hard to shift the discussion process to a personal skirmish. All this only proves the weakness of your argument and strengthens my thoughts that under your peppy relations about the friendship of peoples the ugly reality is hidden, which will be revealed when the Russians in Kazakhstan, like the Russians in Ukraine, rise uprising.
The fact that you absolutely do not understand the events of the Middle East is obvious to everyone. Even me, an Israeli, you call a martyr, because this is the only word from the Middle East lexicon that you know, indirectly only emphasizing your "phenomenal" erudition. Apparently this is where your knowledge about the Arab-Israeli conflict is limited.
Based on the same inexhaustible pool of knowledge, for some reason you think that I live in Gaza. Apparently not suspecting that there are no Israelis in Gaza.
Live calmly in your RK. Happiness, love and tranquility.

[Stypor23]

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Apparently not suspecting that there are no Israelis in Gaza.

Ridiculous. Surely Israeli spies are present in huge numbers. In general, every time after talking with the Israelis, I have a large number of questions. How do you think your government does not want to create a pro-Israel political structure and ensure it wins the elections, and the leader of the SG will be what -Anyway Abu, a la "Palestinian Kadyrov Jr."

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Ridiculous. Surely Israeli spies are present in huge numbers. In general, every time after talking with the Israelis, I have a large number of questions. How do you think your government does not want to create a pro-Israel political structure and ensure it wins the elections, and the leader of the SG will be what -Anyway Abu, a la "Palestinian Kadyrov Jr."

Honestly, I was already thinking about it. This had to be done in 67, immediately after the war. But then there was euphoria and nobody wanted to do such a thing. And so far, Arab bitterness has reached such a level that the Palestinian leader who makes peace will fall victim to the Palestinians themselves. After all, the main problem of the conflict is not religion and not taken away lands. The main reason is the social structure. If the ordinary family of Israelis (as well as the Russians) is directly subordinate to the state, then the Palestinians are subordinate to their clan clans (Hamullahs). The heads of the clans are sheikhs and are real rulers in Palestine. What happens for example in Gaza. Hamas is supported by many sheikhs who have their percentage from smuggled tunnels on the border with Egypt (the owner of each tunnel has income from a good large supermarket). That is, the sheikhs and the heads of Hamas who have contended with them are really benefiting from the closed borders. Qatar transfers money to Hamas. This money must be worked out. As a result, missiles fly to Israeli cities. Israel naturally responds. Bomb Gaza. Oil prices have risen. Qatar repulsed the money invested in Hamas. Israel has experienced new types of weapons and is gaining the potential to sell them profitably. Only residents of Israeli cities are in the red, and the people of Gaza are not even in the red, but in the huge railway station. Hamas actually exposes them under Israeli bombs. If someone in Gaza does not like this order, they simply shoot him, as happened with the 20 participants in the anti-Hamas demonstration in this war. But how are they traitors - dare to protest against Hamas during the war. Here is such a simple arithmetic of war on the BV.

[Stypor23]

In other words, the ruling elites of the opposing sides are interested in the conflict, but ordinary Gazatis and Israelis are not self-sufficient.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

In other words, the ruling elites of the opposing sides are interested in the conflict, but ordinary Gazatis and Israelis are not self-sufficient.

Of course. It’s just that Israel takes better care of its citizens, build houses with bomb shelters, they’ve developed a dome. And indeed there are more freedoms. There are elections. If the government does not like it, you can change it. And at the palaces, as in the zone, everyone aches each other. Rich-poor, armed-unarmed, adult-teenagers, male-female. In general, life there is not sugar.

[Stypor23]

It’s interesting if a certain official starts taking bribes to buy a three-story house, how long will it be closed.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

It’s interesting if a certain official starts taking bribes to buy a three-story house, how long will it be closed.

I heard a story about how one girl who worked in the army at an army fuel base was able to steal tanks. For several years, she acquired a good real estate, burned out stupidly. After the trial, everyone was taken away and closed for eight years.

[Stypor23]

An 11-year-old daughter will be very upset if they grab their dad by their gills. Nobody wants to move out of the cottage.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

An 11-year-old daughter will be very upset if they grab their dad by their gills. Nobody wants to move out of the cottage.

He would take bribes, but no one offers them ..

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

An 11-year-old daughter will be very upset if they grab their dad by their gills. Nobody wants to move out of the cottage.

He would take bribes, but no one offers them ..

This does not happen. Most likely, my father’s office does not attract a massive number of wealthy potential bribe givers.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

This does not happen. Most likely, my father’s office does not attract a massive number of wealthy potential bribe givers.

Clear

[Stypor23]

It’s sad for dad. And this is how you come to Russia, don’t try to prepare provocations against Russian Jews. And then we know how such things are done.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

It’s sad for dad. And this is how you come to Russia, don’t try to prepare provocations against Russian Jews. And then we know how such things are done.

Pity the wolf hare. You felt sorry for the Russian Jews. This is something new. In my opinion you will only be glad when you grew up. Jews will finally leave Russia and you will stop complaining that you have Jewish authority.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

It’s sad for dad. And this is how you come to Russia, don’t try to prepare provocations against Russian Jews. And then we know how such things are done.

Pity the wolf hare. You felt sorry for the Russian Jews. This is something new. In my opinion you will only be glad when you grew up. Jews will finally leave Russia and you will stop complaining that you have Jewish authority.

I am a humanist. I don’t remember talking and complaining about Jewish power in the Russian Federation
You are not given to know what can make me happy

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

I am a humanist. I don’t remember talking about Jewish power in the Russian Federation

And you remember all the little things about me. We once had a conversation on this subject. Do you consider modern power in Russia Jewish or Russian?

[Stypor23]

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Do you remember all the little things about me?

Not only about you. Although I think the Israeli contingent and the humpbacked have put a lot about themselves.

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We once had a conversation on this subject.

I remember. I have such a job to remember everything. It is good to remember the inalienable and obligatory feature of my profession.

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Do you consider modern power in Russia Jewish or Russian?

Pro-Jewish. Especially the goat-bearded rabbi noticed this.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Pro-Jewish. Especially goatbeard noticed it.

here you see. and there will be no Jews in Russia and you will have your own, native Russian power, which will cherish and cherish you.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

Pro-Jewish. Especially goatbeard noticed it.

here you see. and there will be no Jews in Russia and you will have your own, native Russian power, which will cherish and cherish you.

But somehow they do not crave ALL to leave.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

But somehow they do not crave ALL to leave.

Do what you want.

[Death Nik1]

Well, you see, he became nervous. Not good. You were not taught at your work that only a cold mind and a calm attitude to business provide success?

[Stypor23]

It really started to get nervous. I’m already used to your peculiar way of talking. What you are trying to achieve will not benefit our countries. I once read about a Jew who purposely provoked people into anti-Semitic manifestations. It so happened that the Jews themselves punished him properly. It seems that it was in the 5th decade of the 20th century.

[Death Nik1]

Well then, do not complain about the Jews. Live as you live.

[Stypor23]

Why don’t you bring me in an emergency?
As always you will not answer

[Death Nik1]

Why should I put you in an emergency? Just because you don’t like Jews? So then it is necessary to bring 95% of Russians in emergency situations. I'm interested in your psychology, a mixture of imperial mentality and nationalism. It is interesting to watch how you solve the contradictions between these two worldviews.

[Stypor23]

Nationalism prevails even more. You will not regret anyone for your purpose, in particular the Jews.

I noticed that I had 8 violations. What suddenly novels he wrote out. It was as if someone had asked. He does his job poorly, because he misses a lot of things, and finds fault with the little things.

[Death Nik1]

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Nationalism prevails even more. You will not regret anyone for your purpose, in particular the Jews.

On the contrary, my position is dictated by the care of them. The Jews of Russia have a masochistic worldview, they must be taken out before the next revolution has struck.
P.S. about the warnings, I'm not in the know. Probably again the tricks of the Mossad. I'll go to the authorities in an interest.

[Stypor23]

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On the contrary, my position is dictated by the care of them. The Jews of Russia have a masochistic worldview, they must be taken out before the next revolution has struck.

You are cunning. Your like-minded people will prefer to blow up the synagogue. Hysteria needs to be provoked somehow + excellent maza to whip up hatred of Russians and Russians in general.

[Neksel]

Valera, you got the wrong foot today? something does not recognize you.

[Stypor23]

Alexander, I got up from that foot. Here your brother tirelessly repeats that I do not like Jews. I asked him why I shouldn’t love you, a suicide bomber, he never said why. He for some reason is sure that I will go in the front rows to build gas chambers.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

You are cunning. Your like-minded people will prefer to blow up the synagogue. Hysteria needs to be provoked somehow + excellent maza to whip up hatred of Russians and Russians in general.

It’s not a synagogue. The fact is that the Russians have not decided whether they need Jews or not. Answer honestly - do you want the Jews to live in Russia?

[Stypor23]

It is strange why the Russians cannot figure out whether they need Jews or not.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

It is strange why the Russians cannot figure out whether they need Jews or not.

Yes, because on the one hand you consider them to be inferior and disloyal citizens of your country, and on the other hand you do not agree that they would leave you.

[Stypor23]

This is all because of the image.
But nobody offends Jews in Russia

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

This is all because of the image.
But nobody offends Jews in Russia

What do you mean, does not offend? Yes, there are no Jewish pogroms, many Jews hold good positions, live well. But you Russians perceive them exclusively through the prism of their nationality, explaining all their positive and negative qualities exclusively by their nationality. By doing this, you are inadvertently emphasizing that you are separate and Jews are separate. That is, in your thoughts you live in separate worlds, it remains only in real life to embody your desires.

[Stypor23]

If you need it, come and persuade them to sail back to the historical one, and I'll see what they tell you.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

If you need it, come and persuade them to sail back to the historical one, and I'll see what they tell you.

Okay, I'll think about your proposal.

[Stypor23]

Well, here are the goodies. Only you don’t have to kill any of your brothers. And then you never know what a cool guy would think.

[Death Nik1]

Persuaded. All the best. Good weekend.

[Stypor23]

Che for lawlessness. Do not leave me.
Thank you. And you, too, all the very best. Only for a long time do not disappear.

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Where can I, an ordinary Jew

Judging by your mental efforts, there is a suspicion whether you are a Jew at all. Your remarks contrast with the messages of Atalef, the Professor and Voyaka. Some "non-kosher" Jew got caught ..

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to the great nomadic thinker of all time.

So sho, we still wanted to say this ?! I didn’t position myself or put myself this way ..

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Note that megalomania does not compensate for the lack of brain matter or lack of education.

Well, what am I writing to you about .

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I'm not going to get into your relationship with the Russians.

And with what ... did you start all this ?!

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You are trying hard to shift the discussion process to a personal skirmish.

Wasn't it you who shifted the process of discussion, in no way connected with Kazakhstan, to the events of 1986 and the "forced transfer of Russian speakers" ?!

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All this only proves the weakness of your argument.

It says the one who leads Wikipedia as a serious source ?!

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like the Russians in Ukraine, they will rise uprising.

This question can be procrastinated for a long time and persistently. They will raise it, then we'll see and talk. Personally, I am ready for any development of the situation.

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only emphasizing his "phenomenal" erudition.

Your comments about the events in the Republic of Kazakhstan, just emphasize yours ..

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Apparently on this your knowledge about the Arab-Israeli conflict is limited.

I am not at all interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and unlike you, I did not confuse him in our dialogue. I, commented exclusively on Kazakhstan, about the situation in which, unlike you living in Israel, I have an idea ..

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you think that I live in Gaza. Apparently not suspecting that there are no Israelis in Gaza.

I don’t care who, with whom and why lives in Gaza and whether there are Israelis there or not ..

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Live calmly in your RK. Happiness, love and tranquility.

The same to you. You seem to have already said goodbye to the words you were kicked out and deceived ..

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Alibekulu

And with what ... did you start all this ?!

Quote: Alibekulu

I am not at all interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and unlike you, I did not confuse him in our dialogue.

Your fellow countryman from Kazakhstan started in the topic about Syria. Check if you don’t remember. To which he was told that since he was so worried about the injustice towards the Arabs who live beyond 5000 km, why he did not care about the injustice towards the Russians in his own country. At this stage you arose and began to convince everyone that I invent everything. It’s your business, you can not believe me or the testimonies on the Internet. By the way, I brought evidence not only from the wiki (which I am sure you trust in all other cases), one of the evidence that I brought is taken from the site of the Swedish state. organization that issues ausweis to watered. shelter. There, before giving it out, the whole story is very well checked. At the bottom of the document there is a note that the applicants received the status of political refugees. And this is a serious argument in veracity. You are not at all confused by the stories of Russians on this resource about the persecution in your country, besides the story that I quoted, Alexander wrote his story with the nickname Ryazan Airborne Forces, it is located below on the page. Read it. In any case, you kindly fit in with kindness for your fellow countryman, who entered into a conversation, not quite owning the topic. Now your friend is safely silent. Frankly speaking, he set you up and leaked purely in English. You are not interested in the topic of the Israeli-Arab conflict; your country is not of much interest to me either. Engaging with you flame is not interesting. So, what I have already written to you, dear, all the best, the conversation with you has been exhausted due to pointlessness.

[Alibekulu]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Your fellow countryman began in a topic about Syria

So where did you start, about the 1986 pogroms and the "oppression" of Russians. You were offered not to look at the problem one-sidedly and disassemble it from different angles. Including the Kazakh

Quote: Smert Nik1

By the way, I brought evidence not only from the wiki (which I am sure you trust in all other cases)

About Kazakhstan and Kazakhs, there is a lot of nonsense ..

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You are not at all embarrassed by the Russian stories on this resource about the persecution in your countries.

Well, then why are you not embarrassed by the stories of the Kazakhs, who directly faced manifestations of Great Russian chauvinism. Which in no small measure contributed to the events of 1986 ?! Tell how Kazakhs were "persecuted" ?! Read, there are a lot of them in the topics on Kazakhstan. Where you read about the "persecution of the Russians" there are a lot of them. Especially for you I can bring them ..

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In any case, you kindly fit in with kindness for your fellow countryman, who entered into a conversation, not quite owning the topic.

I don’t know if it was thoughtlessness, spiritual kindness, but you mentioned Kazakhstan, not at all owning the topic ..

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There, before giving it out, the whole story is very well checked.

A country like Austria has granted political asylum to Nazarbayev's son-in-law, Rakhat Aliyev (our Prince Joffrey). Although it's like declaring a rhino a white rabbit. In the 90s, there was a topic, massive distribution of shelter to the Uighurs. Many people from the Republic of Kazakhstan also wrote similar "stories" in the petition in the style - Kazakhs on horseback with whips in the center of Almaty raped .. Later, when they sorted it out, they finally covered the shop ..

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Engaging with you flame is not interesting.

Don’t get involved who asks you ..

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So, what I have already written to you, dear, all the best, the conversation with you has been exhausted due to pointlessness.

As if pointlessness on your part. Nda, but I thought instead of links from ridiculous sites, you will cite the stories of those who "fled from Kazakhstan" and, well, your friend from Petropavlovsk.
I have a friend, a Jew, it’s like, I think we’ll meet within a year, I’ll take 0,5, and I hope we’ll talk about what is “for oppression” ..
P.S. As for the forced transfer, you've probably seen the cartoon "American History" (1986). You can watch it from 5 minutes.

[Talgat]

It also seemed to me that Leontyev, unfortunately, either did not get enough sleep or did not eat
Maybe he should work in the monologue genre?

[massad1]

zhurnalyuga - an impenetrable cast-iron forehead, such a terry classic representative of world Zionism, living in a parallel "democratic" universe. When I listen to such people, a lot becomes clear to me, for example, where the wind is blowing from about their official versions of what is happening. You know, I noticed that the most important thing for them is to convince themselves of their own unshakable, sorry unshakable, rightness. Pay attention - he does not take interviews, he is essentially talking to himself, endlessly interrupting Leontyev. It memorized control questions like an idol and itself answers them with control answers. Misha still very gently and politely removed himself from continuing to listen to this senseless monologue. I don't know, right now, right on emotions, he pissed me off, I would tell him about the nuclear threat, something like this

[sgazeev]

I would have sent it in three letters. Ushlepok grabbed shit from the media Khokhlopov. Geytsev. I would have come to the place, looked and ........

[pavel_SPB]

Dmitry Dubov is somehow strange or something ... to say the least.

[Max_Bauder]

But the zhurnalyuga turned out to be tricky!

Except how to accuse Russia of "aggression" is worthless. Let me try to answer his questions.

Dmitry Dubov: Mikhail Vladimirovich, hello. Do you think that the current intensity of international passions has ripened to a real threat of nuclear war?
- Hello, And you do not get sick! You smoke less and stop watching movies about Hiroshima, and delirium tremens are not far away.
Dmitry Dubov: Nobody talks about peace and chewing gum amid the nuclear threat and Russia's aggressive policy in the post-Soviet space. So maybe leave the neighbors alone?
- As for the nuclear threat and aggressive politics, First of all, no one is threatening, have you heard someone officially say that Russia is threatening if such and such ?! No? then they closed the question, now secondly, excuse me, is it an aggressive policy to demand gas payments from Ukraine? Are you out of your mind? You will not argue that the supplier of heat or electricity or water supply behaves aggressively if it disconnects you for non-payment ?! Do not carry nonsense! Can you talk about Crimea? Oh my God, I beg you, stop being a hypocrite, we turned a blind eye when the United States bombed Iraq without permission from the UN and Libya with permission, although what the hell is the difference if the United States acts ?!
Dmitry Dubov: Who? Who attacked you?
- If you mean an invasion by troops, then no one, but if economically, then the United States and the European Union attacked when they imposed sanctions, what if this is not an attack? You hope you will not deny the fact of economic pressure on Russia calculated to weaken the country in order to change the political course or even a change of power ?! The United States did something similar when it provoked a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. I appreciate your hypocrisy.
Dmitry Dubov: Well, thank you for appreciating, of course, but let's answer the question once again - who attacked Russia, who crossed the border of the Russian Federation?
- About 500 refugees crossed over the border from Ukraine, whom Russia accepted without checking for the presence of terrorist elements, from a country supposedly hostile to you, in your words. Can you imagine that Germany, in the 000th invading Poland and Czechoslovakia, began to receive refugees from these countries, feeds, gives an overnight stay, arranges for work? And Russia behaves differently, is it strange, right? I tell you again, Russia is not at war with the Ukrainian people, but with those who are in power.
Dmitry Dubov: Wait! I tell you about one thing, and you tell me about another. Nationalists did not go to the parliament of Ukraine.
- So why are tads ban Russian? and in kindergartens they force children to renounce the Russian name bestowed at baptism, look at this fool Farion, at her utterances. what does she carry ?! And whose money is supplied to the troops ironing Donetsk and Lugansk with shells and missiles? Aren't the Jews oligarchs al?

continued ...

[Max_Bauder]

continued ...

Dmitry Dubov: The Speaker of the Parliament is Groysman, a Jew by nationality.
- so here I am about the same. (I’ll leave a remark by Mikhail Leontyev): Yes, there is Kolomoisky, you watch his videos, where he offered ten thousand for my head, right? Look, here is Kolomoisky - the shame of the Jewish people. Look at this nits!
Dmitry Dubov: So, you know, let's still observe the elementary limits of decency.
tell this to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are not shy about raping even the old women, but I am silent about schoolgirls.
Dmitry Dubov: Listen, the Boeing is under investigation. Maybe it's the separatists?
A wealthy person dies, not from old age, murder, only the eldest son has the right to inherit, so who will be suspected in the first place? And you tell me the janitor is to blame. Why the hell do separatists bring down an INTERNATIONAL flight? To incur all the anger of all NATO countries? to sanction them missile strike as in Libya? Do you think they are? And what else will the militias bring down? You apparently took seriously the story of how in Iraq a grandfather shot a APACH helicopter from a gun. Rjunimagu. This is propaganda.
Dmitry Dubov: Propaganda is when Russian channels invent a story about a crucified boy, sorry.
And "tens of thousands of Russian troops killed in battles in eastern Ukraine", what's this? If you believe the ukrosmi, we should already run out of human stocks of cadre military personnel, they should already collect a new draft , but what Psaki says must be trusted too? You see, not only can we make mistakes in judgments.
Dmitry Dubov: But there are cadres, there are cadres as separatists from residential areas are firing ...
Well, you’re a cynic, he’s protecting his house. I don’t want to call you a nerd. What do you want? so that the militia goes out into the open field like Peresvet against Chelubey ?! In general, militias fight face to face, not hiding as the APU.
Dmitry Dubov: I ask once again - there are shots that show you, we are now directly showing them, missiles are launched from the installation, which is located behind the residential building, shelling of the Donetsk airport is underway.
Again Mikhail Leontiev: There is a battle going on, well, and what's new? Civil War.

[Max_Bauder]

continued ...

Dmitry Dubov: Well, then, as a result of return fire, residents die ...
This is an excuse APU. People die from direct hit by artillery shells in residential buildings, whether militias are there or not. For example, at the beginning of the war, when the aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine delivered strikes, there were no militias at all. APU commanders need to give their report to their pier. shells fly, we fight, they cut the forest you know. But tell me the rape of Donetsk girls is also a return fire, an aggressive attack on the consciousness of the APU soldiers by wearing mini skirts with high heels and stockings with a slender gait?
Dmitry Dubov: Not at all funny. Aggressive politics is when they threaten with nuclear weapons. And direct aggression is the war in Georgia.
- Yes, you already fucked for the same thing! No one is threatening! As for Georgia, let it be known to you that Ossetia and Abkhazia never belonged to Georgia, Georgia itself has become independent not so long ago, you know from whom. I doubt that under the Turks or Persians they would be able to gain independence. The Armenian Genocide is an example to you. Moreover, there was an attack on peacekeepers.
Dmitry Dubov: The peacekeepers did not have a mandate to fight. Russia has introduced a regular army, and here peacekeepers? When there was an operation in Chechnya, not a single state rushed to save the Chechens ...
And why on earth would they intervene? Did we intervene when the British fought over the Falkland Islands? or when did the Americans take their hands on panama? now their troops are illegitimate in Afghanistan. Same! Chechnya is Russia, it is our territory, it has always been and will be. How much Russian blood was shed in Russian-Turkish, and Perso-Russian as well as in the Second World War. You don’t understand, you didn’t protect these lands, not your grandfathers.

That's all. Further the topic of another discussion.
But in short, my opinion is that the last Jewish state was, if you believe history back in the 7th century BC, then reappeared after the end of World War II. This can be considered fair considering that the Jewish people lived here from time immemorial. But in my opinion, it is unfair that from the moment of its creation, Israel only did what it got involved in military conflicts with neighboring Arab states and expanded its territory. This journalist is unlikely to dispute this. Even if we hypothetically accept that the Arabs are to blame for everything, one cannot argue against the facts, Israel has expanded, and if it is possible to destroy Palestine and then take over the Jordan, then the territory will increase again. Compared to this expansion, the "annexation" of Crimea is no comparison. Crimea has been part of Russia for as long as the young country of Israel has not yet lived.

[Ramzaj99]

No need to compare post-war Israel and today's.
They have been under the Americans for too long and have completely adopted their ideology.
They now only have a benefit. Who would have thought a few years ago that ISRAELIS !! will share the Fascists !! good and bad! And bomb "bad" terrorists on the territory of a foreign sovereign state and feed the good ones. This state is the most hostile to Russia than ever, how sad it is to realize it.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Oaks reminds us with our rhetoric of our liberals ... though ... they are basically a single berry field.

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

Our Russian liberal is, first and foremost, a lackey and is just looking at how to clean his boots for someone!

[aksakal]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Oaks reminds us with our rhetoric of our liberals ... although ... they are basically a single berry field

- No, the oak almost in plain text informs that what Israel can do, Russia cannot. "The peacekeepers did not have a mandate to fight. Russia introduced a regular army, what has the peacekeepers to do with? When there was an operation in Chechnya, not a single state rushed to save the Chechens ..."

Mikhail Leontiev: Listen, well, you are telling me. When Israel introduces an army into Lebanon, for any reason? "- an outright failure of Leontyev. Firstly, the peacekeepers did not fight, the oaks are so realistically distorted here, absolutely oak in accordance with their name, and THEY WERE KILLED, and the regular army by Russia was introduced precisely to protect Peacekeepers are brought in so that they would not be killed, they simply interfere with the conduct of hostilities by their presence, and if they begin to kill, then the country that introduced the peacekeepers has the right to protect them with all available means! , and are armed with light small arms, but they are under the protection of the state that sent them to carry out the peacekeeping mission. This is the first. The second - if Dubov announces that Kolomoisky and Groisman are Jews, and in the context makes a message that they are worthy sons of their people, after all, if it was a shame for such "Jews", then I would even be ashamed to mention their oaks, then let the Israeli members of the forum do not take offense henceforth at harsh posts against Israel, because according to the principle “tell me who your friend is, and I will tell you who you are!” we can already draw conclusions about what kind of state Israel is, and what their goals are, and what are the methods of achieving these goals. Let's try - Kolomoisky is suspected of organizing an action of burning people in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa, in organizing a provocative air attack on civilians in Lugansk (remember the girl in red with her legs torn off?), Kolomoisky finances a number of openly Nazi battalions. The list goes on, but that's more than enough. Now Israel - in the person of Dubov, he openly does not distance itself from the Kolomoisky bandit, but on the contrary, with the help of Kolomoisky, is also trying to whitewash the openly Nazi regime in Ukraine. So draw conclusions about Israel (after friendship with Beni, I will write only with a small letter! That's it!). They are completely in sight. And the interview with the Leonevs was frankly failed. It is clear that Leontyev speaks well when he prepared the program, and when he is so unexpected, when they are forced to improvise, he pumped up and gave the wrong arguments, I think the peacekeepers had to be answered exactly as I gave in the post, but the input and output of troops to Lebanon there only later as an illustrative example. Nevertheless, Leontyev is worthy of respect at least for his consistent patriotic position.

[andj61]

aksakal (3) KZ Today, 07:25 ↑

I don’t agree with everything, especially Israel, with a small letter, but your post is better than Leontiev’s interview! Plus with pleasure!
PS A joke with a beard about a small letter. Dictation. The teacher:
- In the dictation there was a sentence: "The crocodile climbed on a pebble."
Everybody wrote the word "pebbles" with a capital letter. And only Little Johnny - what a fine fellow! - with a little one. Little Johnny, explain to everyone why you wrote this word with a small letter?
- But I don’t think pebbles after a crocodile for a person!

[Ezhaak]

Quote: aksakal

Now Israel - in the person of Dubov, he frankly does not distance himself from the bandit Kolomoisky

You simply must know that any Jew is obliged to defend a Jew whom they are trying to accuse of at least some kind of sin. Examples of this darkness. Over the past 25 years, how many Jewish thieves hid in Israel, having received his citizenship?
If our "brothers" from Israel appear here soon, I cannot avoid minuses and accusations of anti-Semitism for these words. Although, I did not say anything against Israel in general.

[Gans1234]

Damn, the Jewish question ...
I respect Israel, and as a state, both the people and the army, I do not consider myself an anti-Semite ...
But I am deeply convinced that there is no place for Jews in Russian politics - well, this at least spoils the attitude towards Jews among the people and gives only an impetus to anti-Semitism

[Finches]

Something Leontiev did not give a single intelligible argument, mumbled, for some reason making excuses ...? However!

[Bykov.]

Quote: Finches

Something Leontiev did not give a single intelligible argument, mumbled, for some reason making excuses ...? However!

Where is he there - FAITHFUL ?!
Reviewing the video, and this time attentive.
Mumbled ?! Not a fig to yourself! If half of our journalists would mumble like that, it would be just great.

[just exp]

he probably just like I did not watch the video, but read the text (in Israel, a translation of the text will be printed, not a video), and the text speaks more like an attempt to justify oneself, and not very skillful at that. There is more room for answers to trimmings and gutters. could be done so that the journalist would have to justify the west in his answers.

[Finches]

Indeed, I did not look! And the questions are provocative, nevertheless, a journalist with such experience, practically an internationalist, could not bring up more than one destructive fact or catch an opponent on contradictions ... I remember such a monster - Bovin, the program in the USSR was hosted by International Panorama , so this brat tried it - Dubov, so provoke him!

[just exp]

may not be in the mood.

[aksakal]

Quote: Finches

Indeed, I did not look! And the questions are provocative, nevertheless, a journalist with such experience, practically an internationalist, could not bring up more than one destructive fact or catch an opponent on contradictions ... I remember such a monster - Bovin, the program in the USSR was hosted by International Panorama , so this brat tried it - Dubov, so provoke him!

- I remember the interview taken by the Georgian journalist from the President of Syria H. Assad, so she also asked a question with such provocative overtones, liberal journalists generally work clumsy, the provocation is just stupid, I don't remember literally, something like "and that's when the people rose up against you, was it difficult for you to give the order to shoot at your people? ", well, something like that, Assad smiled politely and, as the schoolgirl explained with figures, that the people are for him, in percentage, and the one who was called the" rising people "are just terrorists and with the same polite smile, justified it. Is Assad stronger than Leontyev as a political scientist? After all, he is the President, politician and ruler, not a TV journalist! But he worked there just brilliantly!

[just exp]

I also didn’t like his speech, at the expense of Georgia I could stupidly besiege the question "and if Lebanon killed a couple of dozen Israeli peacekeepers, Israel would not respond with a military operation?"
and about Bandera could ask, how does the magazine journalist feel that the killer of tens of thousands of Jews in Ukraine is a hero?

[Russian jacket]

Sorry, but .... Muddy questions and no less muddy answers ... Maybe I'm wrong ... But the impression is this.

[Bykov.]

Quote: Russian quilted jacket

Sorry, but .... Muddy questions and no less muddy answers ... Maybe I'm wrong ... But the impression is this.

The Jew tried to provoke, but nothing happened.

[Finches]

Dmitry Dubov is a kosher Jew!

[rapid1934]

Conversation of the blind with the deaf.

[GELEZNII_KAPUT]

Very accurate definition!

[Dimy4]

Leontyev’s last phrase very accurately describes the whole conversation. And the point of the interview was not to convey our position to the Israeli audience, but once again put us in a puddle.

[STALGRAD76]

I think from the side of the 9th channel, a certain technique of "crushing the interlocutor" was applied not with arguments but with ordinary cliches (if I were asked on the camera "why do I eat babies in the morning?" emotions ...

[karal]

Mikhail did the right thing to cut off this rubbish of the Jewish journalist Dmitry Dubov!

[saag]

Leontriev looks pale and speaks in cliches, fi. Nobody attacked the Russian Federation, and stay and think further that Ukrainians and Russians are one people is a pernicious error, now they are different nations.

[stoker]

Quote: saag

Leontyev looks pale and speaks in cliches ...

LEONTIEV just looked like a normal person, respecting the work of a journalist. He stopped on the street, spent his time, tried to delve into this nonsense, establish a constructive dialogue. Finding out that in front of him miserable provocateurs, he spat and left. Natural human squeamishness. Well, a slight annoyance on yourself.

[just exp]

Well, yes, then the supporters of the separation of Siberia from Russia and the creation of the Ural and Siberian republics will be rubbing us that from now on Omsk and Vologda residents are different peoples.
I’ll tell you more, there is no Ukrainian nationality, there are maloros, and Ukrainians called Maloros who refused Orthodoxy in favor of Greek Catholicism.
even Gogol had not ukranians but littlerussians. this is how the "Ukrainians" were called, for example, in English translation at the beginning of the 20th century. that is, in the English translations of his books at the beginning of the last century, there was Littlerush and LittleRush, and there were no Ukraine and Ukrainians.

[mervino2007]

saag (1) SU  "now these are different peoples."

In your view. In fact, this is one people, only in Ukraine it is crushed by the Bandera zapadents who rule, supported by the money of the states and the EU. The color revolution through the Maidan gave such results. The technology is proven.





[Fox]

like here on the forum: dialogue with the Jews ... even the questions and answers are the same.

[their]

Quote: Fox

like here on the forum: dialogue with the Jews ... even the questions and answers are the same.

Because this is the main line of the Goebbels propaganda of Israel. You still do not understand against whom Israel? In Chechnya, they gave birth to terrorists, in Georgia they unleashed genocide in Ossetia, in Ukraine they carried out a neo-Nazi coup d'état and civil war, oh yes the same goes for Syria (Russia's ally)

[wanderer]

I was surprised in one article that Leontyev press secretary of Rosnenft (seen from the credits) ... honestly, I didn’t know.
===== type PR manager ??

[saag]

Quote: wanderer

I was surprised in the article by one thing that Leontyev was the press secretary of Rosnenft

Indeed, he left the first channel to Sechin

[Intensive]

entire gear - production

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Intensive

entire gear - production

And not only this one! All TV shows - production, like movies, plays.

[rotmistr60]

our relationship with the United States is not based on hydrocarbon trading, but doctrine of mutual guaranteed non-destruction.

The Americans, due to their "exceptionalism", have ceased to understand this. If a sick person imagines himself to be Napoleon, you cannot prove the opposite to him. Need shock therapyI am.

[Tatar 174]

Quote: rotmistr60

The Americans, due to their "exceptionalism", have ceased to understand this. If a sick person thinks he is Napoleon, you cannot prove the opposite to him. I need shock therapy.

Compulsory treatment can also help ...

[Ezhaak]

Quote: rotmistr60

If a sick person thinks he is Napoleon, you cannot prove him the opposite. Need shock therapy.

Tested in the USA. Intravenously 750 milligrams of midazolam and hydromorphone.

[Mama_Cholli]

An Israeli journalist could not understand why the fire is being fired because of apartment buildings?
He did not wonder why there are houses in the besieged city? Or why are there houses in the city?
Or does he think that Donetsk and Lugansk is a field with haystacks? Or maybe he is not aware that the Ukrainian troops came to these cities, and not the cities moved to the Ukrainian troops.

Pity Leontiev, he spent so much time in vain. There was no need to do this. No need to make excuses, especially to representatives of similar media, countries of vassals.

[bmv04636]

The whole point is that God's chosen ones can defend their right to life by any means, but the goyim cannot. Well, like the "light elves" by bombing and murder, we bring you "light democracy"

[Masterzserg]

Chet was confused Leontyev!

Israel for any reason? Georgia, like Lebanon, shelled Russia? You what?

But we didn’t bring troops into Ukraine when ardent Russophobes fired on our territory for a month. And Syria also fired on the rest of Europe, for which they are hammering its territory? And in Georgia, our peacekeepers were killed! Well, and that there is no mandate, now they themselves should shoot themselves? They saved the guys and the local population.

but let's answer the question again - who attacked Russia, who crossed the border of the Russian Federation?

and where does it cross the border? Russians are being killed, ethnic cleansing is going on in Ukraine, Russian girls are being raped, and about a crucified boy, although I have not heard anything from the media, but I heard from people from Ukraine that they are killing children, cruelly.

[tasha]

I read Mr. Leontiev's answers and realized that speaking smart words from the screen and understanding them are completely different things, however. Is it possible that Mr. Leontyev is reading on the air, nothing is being put off in his head?
Leontiev is not Lavrov ...

[testerman]

The point is that in these interviews it’s like pulling a cat by the balls before castrating. Everyone has long known that the West does not give a damn about all legal norms and there is only an obsession with taking possession of resources, land, water, which is available on the territory of the Russian Federation. Dialogs are useless in this case. It is necessary to build up military power and be prepared for a clash which is more than likely in connection with recent events.

[mervino2007]

testerman SU "Dialogues are useless in this case"

We must use every opportunity to convey our point of view to other peoples. Yes, he is not Lavrov. Reading a piece of paper, however, is easier than preparing for a tough debate, standing up to all the arguments. You may not be a polemicist, but being able to state known facts and their assessment is unambiguous.

[askort154]

Israel accuses Russia of aggression? Of course, the United States and Israel are still victims of aggression from: Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. How difficult it is for them to live surrounded by aggressors.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: askort154

Israel accuses Russia of aggression? Of course, the United States and Israel are still victims of aggression from: Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. How difficult it is for them to live surrounded by aggressors.

This is where is Israel blaming Russia? Welcome the utterance Ministry of Foreign Affairs. But Russia has a very clear anti-Israeli position, hidden under the guise of neutrality.
"On December 4, Nasrallah met with Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov."

[bmv04636]

Can I ask you a quick question about the murderers and thieves escaping from Russia hiding in your territory ?.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: bmv04636

Can I ask you a quick question about the murderers and thieves escaping from Russia hiding in your territory ?.

Can I ask you a question? Do your special services agree to discover all the secrets of training Palestinian terrorists? For example, why were members of the black October, after the terrorist attack in Munich, guarded by KGB officers? Did the Soviet leadership know about plans to capture a school with students in the city of Ma'alot?

[Stypor23]

Here again, 25. Well, what kind of people. The person asked you a question, but you do not answer and ask your question next.

[their]

These are paid propagandists, the pride of asbara (based on Goebbels notes). They don’t have causal relationships, as a rule, everything is tailored to bend the party’s line.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Here again, 25. Well, what kind of people. The person asked you a question, but you do not answer and ask your question next.

The man received a "Jewish" answer, because in turn he answered "in a Jewish". I asked where Israel accused Russia, let them quote izr. officials, and the man twisted everything and started asking me questions about the crime hiding in Israel.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

Here again, 25. Well, what kind of people. The person asked you a question, but you do not answer and ask your question next.

The man received a "Jewish" answer, because in turn he answered "in a Jewish". I asked where Israel accused Russia, let them quote izr. officials, and the man twisted everything and started asking me questions about the crime hiding in Israel.

Actually, he asked.

Quote: bmv04636

Can I ask you a quick question about the murderers and thieves escaping from Russia hiding in your territory ?.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Actually, he asked.

Yes, only he asked me it, during a conversation about Israel’s position on the conflict in Ukraine. Look pliz one post above.

[andj61]

Let's close this question. Nevertheless, Israel is at the official level neutral towards Russia with a fair amount of sympathy: they say that we are being pressed for Gaza, and you for Ukraine.

[Koshel2901]

Well well, believe them yet

[ultra]

Neutrally agree, but about the share of "sympathy" I would not say that.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Yes, only he asked me it, during a conversation about Israel’s position on the conflict in Ukraine

As practice shows, on Israeli topics, people often do not speak about a given topic.

[bmv04636]

I can redirect your question to the "light elves" to argue, will you?

[their]

Are your special services ready to tell the citizens of Israel how they created Hamas and carried out terrorist attacks to pit Palestinians and Jews?

[bmv04636]

Well, you can most likely have ears there from your patrons of the "light elves" sticking out.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Can I ask you a question?

Let's get away from the Soviet era and their cliches. Then the Israeli secret services were also involved in relations with terrorists who carried out terrorist attacks and against Soviet citizens. It is possible that those KGB officers themselves were Jews peacefully living in Israel now.
Israel is indeed harboring ethnic Jews who have committed crimes in Russia. True, apparently, they have already been granted Israeli citizenship, but the Israeli authorities are also not ready to judge for murders or involvement in murders outside the territory of Israel. But I do not recall something mirror cases with Russia.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

Let's get away from the Soviet era and their stamps

We will not be able to get away from them, since there is a continuity between the Soviet and Russian special services.

Quote: andj61

Then the Israeli secret services were also involved in relations with terrorists who carried out terrorist attacks and against Soviet citizens.

More details please. I have never heard of Israel’s participation in terrorist attacks against Soviet citizens.

[Koshel2901]

You haven’t heard much, Horatio!

[Koshel2901]

For Israel, the benefit is right, the unprofitable is wrong, and false or true it does not matter

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Koshel2901

For Israel, the benefit is right, the unprofitable is wrong, and false or true it does not matter

Is it not so for Russia? Russia does not recognize Hezbollah ter. organization, so as not to complicate relations with Iran. Although Hezbollah was marked by terror not only against the Israelis, but in the 80s against Soviet citizens, too.
I'll tell you more. Almost every country in the world builds its policy on the basis of profitable and disadvantageous. Look how the Poles suffered from the Bandera during the war, but they still support the Ukrainian government, because it is now profitable. There are no "noble" countries in the world, the policy of almost any country is based on its immediate interests.

[Koshel2901]

read the history of Russia deeper, my friend, maybe you will understand something

[ultra]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Did the Soviet leadership know

But in imperial Russia the qualification of settledness was what?

[ultra]

Quote: Smert Nik1

For example, why were members of the black October, after the terrorist attack in Munich, guarded by KGB officers?

I have not heard of this, but the fact that one of the participants in the terrorist attack in the USSR does not say anything. All this is from the category of assumptions and conjectures.

[revnagan]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Can I ask you a question? Do your special services agree to discover all the secrets of training Palestinian terrorists?

You pose the question as an experienced tracker. The fact is already proven, everything is known, and you are only interested in that, small details. And can you cite the facts that the special services were generally engaged in the preparation of terrorists?

[Death Nik1]

Quote: revnagan

And can you cite the facts that the special services were generally engaged in the preparation of terrorists, can you?

Well, the information in Hebrew will probably not satisfy you, but here is a small quote in Russian:

"Since the mid-1960s in the USSR, on a permanent basis, training has been carried out for servicemen sent by the Palestine Liberation Organization for training in Soviet military educational institutions. Their training in the specialty" Commander of a platoon / company of special intelligence "was carried out mainly in the 165th training center for the training of foreign military personnel, located in the Crimea "

Taken from here:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%
D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D
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[their]

What is the problem of this meeting? Hezbollah is a party like Likud. It’s just that GoebbelsTV calls you terrorist.

[yana532912]

Just facts! In any conflict, look for the ears of the "chosen" nation.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: yana532912

Just facts! In any conflict, look for the ears of the "chosen" nation.

It is in this that you are no different from Bandera. It’s just that they still haven’t given you a weapon, and in your thoughts you have long agreed to a final solution to the Jewish question.
Just like you sing an excellent song: "Burn, burn zh..dyara".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs5iEVQNdNs

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Just like you sing an excellent song: "Burn, burn zh..dyara".

The song is really fun. , German motives are felt, only the video is wrong, they should dance

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

The song is really fun. , German motives are felt, only the video is wrong, they should dance

For some reason I have no doubt that this song is close to you. Now ask yourself, your attitude towards Jews is very different from Bandera? In my opinion, not really. If I began to joke about the burnt Russians, you would hardly be so complacent.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

The song is really fun. , German motives are felt, only the video is wrong, they should dance

For some reason I have no doubt that this song is close to you. Now ask yourself, your attitude towards Jews is very different from Bandera? In my opinion, not really. If I began to joke about the burnt Russians, you would hardly be so complacent.

It’s different. I just said that the song is mischievous, and you’re glad to say that I liked it. You also like to catch up like an experienced Nativa employee. They say they sleep in Russia and see that they put all the Jews on a par with Kolomoisky.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

I only said that the song is mischievous,

Are you happy when people are burned?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

I only said that the song is mischievous,

Are you happy when people are burned?

What did you get?

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

What did you get?

Because the song describes the sad real events taking place in the war. And you find her cheerful and mischievous.

[Stypor23]

I realized what this song is about.

Quote: Smert Nik1

you find her cheerful and mischievous.

She is conceived this way, but that does not mean that I am happy

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

She is conceived this way, but that does not mean that I am happy

Sorry, but this is what you think in your comments.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

She is conceived this way, but that does not mean that I am happy

Sorry, but this is what you think in your comments.

Yes, you specify if that. Do not look for a martyr in who he is not. And according to your comas, a picture emerges that you come from Yasha’s office from Channel 9.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Yes, you specify if that. Do not look for a martyr in who he is not

You are not a martyr, you just do not a bit like the Jews and consider the songs about their burning mischievous.

Quote: Stypor23

According to your comas, a picture emerges that you come from Yasha’s office from Channel 9.

My profession feeds me well.
I’m not writing that you are a native of Fradkov’s nest (about another saffir in Russian service).

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

You’re not a martyr, you just don’t make Jews a bit

And for what specifically do I dislike you?

Quote: Smert Nik1

and you think the songs about burning them are mischievous.

as well as the blood of Jewish babies I drink together an aperitif.

Quote: Smert Nik1

I’m not writing that you are a native of Fradkov’s nest (about another saffir in Russian service).

There is nothing to evaluate my activity. Yes, I don’t even know who he is.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

There is nothing to evaluate my activity. Yes, I don’t even know who he is.

Who do you know? Fradkova or Shafirova?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: Stypor23

There is nothing to evaluate my activity. Yes, I don’t even know who he is.

Who do you know? Fradkova or Shafirova?

Both of them.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Both of them.

Fradkov: So you are interested in Israeli Nativ more than your own foreign intelligence service?
Hope you are joking.

Shafirov, a Jewish crosshair, was close to Peter the Great.

Do not be offended, but you need to know the history of your country.

[Stypor23]

Yes, I'm not offended. Thanks for the info I hope that my computers, telephones and non-official communications are not controlled by my own security service.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Yes, I'm not offended. Thanks for the info. I hope my computers, telephones and out-of-office communications do not control their own security service.

Ask them yourself, this is after all the service of yours and not of my country. Or do you prefer that Fradkov be personally asked in the synagogue?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Or do you prefer that Fradkov be personally asked in the synagogue?

But he still does not have such data.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

But he still does not have such data.

Do you think that Fradkov, as the director of the SVR, is not able to receive data from whom his office is following?
Or is he, a Jew, not attending a synagogue?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Do you think that Fradkov, as the director of the SVR, is not able to receive data from whom his office is following?

Why would his office keep an eye on the ordinary honest hard worker?

Quote: Smert Nik1

Or is he, a Jew, not attending a synagogue?

But is it really obligatory for every Jew to attend a synagogue?

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

But is it really obligatory for every Jew to attend a synagogue?

And where else can we take the blood of Christian babies on matzo? Outside the synagogue, she is not kosher.

[Stypor23]

Exactly. I want to eat. Apparently not all Jews are vampires.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Exactly. I want to eat. Apparently not all Jews are vampires.

No, we have this strictly. Those who do not eat matzah are expelled from the masons and forced to do physical work.

[Stypor23]

Why no one had thought of slipping poisoned blood.

[tilix]

What will you poison?

[Stypor23]

You can try pork.

[tilix]

But what, is not originally grown on selected pork? What a poison.

[Stypor23]

We assume that for the orthodox, it’s like garlic for a ghoul.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

No, we have this strictly. Those who do not eat matzah are expelled from the masons and forced to do physical work.

Along the way, with the exception of half a million orthodox, all the Jews of Israel are only engaged in physical work - over there, what state in a semi-desert for 60 years or more they have been beaten off!

[Koshel2901]

question of a near person, unfortunately.

[Egor65g]

Quote: Stypor23

in Russia they sleep and see how to put all Jews on a par with Kolomoisky.

Judging by the three-day comments of the majority of Russians, you are not mistaken.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Egor65G

Quote: Stypor23

in Russia they sleep and see how to put all Jews on a par with Kolomoisky.

Judging by the three-day comments of the majority of Russians, you are not mistaken.

Here are just a wave of anti-Semitic actions in Russia by no means rolling, as some Israeli Jews would like.

[Egor65g]

You are serious

Quote: Stypor23

as some Israeli Jews would like.

And note, most Russians on the site are not the majority as a whole

[Stypor23]

Well, what a joke.
So, guided by your logic, the majority of local Sitesian Russians are outright Jewish haters

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Well, what a joke.
So, guided by your logic, the majority of local Sitesian Russians are outright Jewish haters

Sorry that I'm wedging in. Is not it? In any case, reading the comments on "Israeli" topics, one gets just such an opinion. You even invented the term: "Judeo-Bandera", despite all the oxymoriness of this term. On the other hand, the truth, too, like to trump "zh.dom.skolyami", so that "love" for the Jews is the only thing that unites you about ".

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Sorry, that wedged.

And Sasha, that's okay.

Quote: Smert Nik1

Is not it? In any case, reading the comments on "Israeli" topics, one gets just such an opinion. You even invented the term: "Judeo-Bandera", despite all the oxymoriness of this term. On the other hand, the truth, too, like to trump "zh.dom.skolyami", so that "love" for the Jews is the only thing that unites you about ".

Well, again, a bunch of scum discredits the entire Jewish people.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

You even invented the term: "Judeo-Bandera", despite all the oxymorism of this term.

We did not invent this term, but Jews, or rather, one particular Jew!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

We did not invent this term, but Jews, or rather, one particular Jew!

During the war there were Jews who served the Nazis. Not mythical SS soldiers, but quite specific: capos, members of the Judenrats, Jewish police in the ghetto. Their life after the war was unenviable. Most of the kapos were killed by the prisoners of the camps themselves, they were drowned in a shise-barrack (toilet). Members of the Judenrat and the police were either killed or tried. I think that Kolomoisky is also able to answer. But Russians should judge him, not Israel, since his activities are carried out on the territory of Ukraine and Russia.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

But Russians should judge him, not Israel, since his activities are carried out on the territory of Ukraine and Russia.

I agree! I’m just talking about the fact that this term - the Zhidobandera - was not invented by the Russians at all!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

I agree!

Do you have more questions about Israel about Kolomoisky?

[Egor65g]

Quote: Stypor23

Most local Sitesian Russians are outspoken Jewish haters

-I agree.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Egor65G

Quote: Stypor23

Most local Sitesian Russians are outspoken Jewish haters

-I agree.

Well, why pull out of context. And in Voronezh, one of the largest synagogues in the Russian Federation was opened.
It’s bad for Jews in Russia. So it’s not for them that they want to screw from Mother.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Stypor23

Here are just a wave of anti-Semitic actions in Russia by no means rolling, as some Israeli Jews would like.

I wonder why. Is your attitude towards Jews characteristic of most of the inhabitants of Russia?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Is your attitude towards Jews characteristic of most of the inhabitants of Russia?

Do you think I know how the majority of the population of Russia relates to Jews?

[KOMA]

Nothing like this! Just business :)

[Koshel2901]

Oops! Offended the boy! You do not equal Jews and Israelis, it is the same as equating a Ukrainian with Bendera and a German with fascists.

[mervino2007]

Smert Nik1 (3) IL  "For some reason I have no doubt that this song is close to you"

The position is very different. Bandera - feed up Hitler. Jews are a nation that suffered greatly during World War II from Nazi and Bandera Nazis. Holocaust - remember. The same thing is happening in the Donbass. The Jewish detachment of internationalists in the Donbass was. Thank you for your help and understanding.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

It is in this that you are no different from Bandera.

You are just overdoing it! It is clear to everyone where the negative attitude towards Jews comes from in Russia - too many of them have seized power and a lot of money, were engaged in lawlessness, committed lawlessness - and this at all times, it began from the time of tenants in the Commonwealth. If interested - you can talk and discuss.
But these Jews made up and make up 1-2% of the whole people, and the impression of the people is absolutely unfairly made on the basis of this 1%. You live in Israel, a self-sufficient country, whose citizens, with arms in hand, defended their right to exist, have proved that you can live well on a piece of half-sheet. For this you can only be respected and admired by your achievements.
And you personally, in response to the comment you didn’t like, begin to aggravate, practically provoke manifestations of anti-Semitism. There are a lot of people on the site - someone will definitely lead.
Of course, I am ashamed of the statements of my compatriots - I apologize for them!
But you should not take such a position.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

You are just overdoing it! It is clear to everyone where the negative attitude towards Jews comes from in Russia - too many of them have seized upon the authorities and into big money

And why did you, the citizens of Russia, vote for such power?

Quote: andj61

And you personally, in response to the comment you didn’t like, begin to aggravate, practically provoke manifestations of anti-Semitism

Because I believe that blatant anti-Semitism is better than complacent, "cultured" anti-Semitism.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

And why did you, the citizens of Russia, vote for such power?

Do you seriously think that you can achieve victory in a crystal-clear manner even in the most democratic elections? I thought that there were no such wonderful people left!
Everything in the 90s was imposed on us against our will: both the collapse of the Union (the people — including me, in a referendum on March 17.03.1993, XNUMX voted to preserve the Union), and power, and privatization, and oligarchs, and many, many, many what else. Think you have better? Of course, more cultural, of course, more sleek. But political technologies exist, and are applied on a massive scale precisely for money that the common people do not have and never will.

Quote: Smert Nik1

Because I believe that blatant anti-Semitism is better than complacent, "cultured" anti-Semitism.

With your statements, perhaps involuntarily), you first cause this, not your favorite, "cultured" anti-Semitism, which under certain circumstances can develop into your favorite blatant anti-Semitism. I hope you're not cultivating anti-Semitism on purpose?

Personally, I have come across Jews that are unpleasant to me, and there are Jews among my friends and good acquaintances. The topic of anti-Semitism is largely fueled by just such petty provocations. Although the negative attitude to ANY nationality can not be justified by any arguments. Here is a negative attitude towards a SPECIFIC person - it is quite possible!
As in a joke:
“Are you firing me for being a Jew?”
- No, because you can’t do a damn thing!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

Do you seriously think that you can achieve victory in a crystal-clear manner even in the most democratic elections? I thought that there were no such wonderful people left!

And why are fair elections possible in our country, and if the president has done anything, he’s going to jail, but this doesn’t happen for you? Who is to blame for the fact that some Jews (and non-Jews too), who in the West, at best, would have reached the level of the district of a bread shop, are turning billions in you. And your population is silent and suffers. Why do not the Russian people in the police and the FSB support the people, but rather do everything to divide the people into a bunch of aristocrats who can have everything and a dumb crowd, with whom everything can be done? Is Israel also to blame?

Quote: andj61

With your statements, perhaps involuntarily), you first cause this, not your favorite, "cultured" anti-Semitism, which under certain circumstances can develop into your favorite blatant anti-Semitism.

But what about. All victims of violence are always to blame for what happened to them. I don’t need to impose the psychology of the victim. I'm not Cinderella and used to call a spade a spade.

P.S. You did not answer about the participation of Israel in the attacks against Soviet citizens.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

P.S. You did not answer about the participation of Israel in the attacks against Soviet citizens.

80s, Lebanon. Arab terrorists kidnap two Soviet citizens, make demands. Our specialists came, walked along the chain, found traces. The son of one of those close to the leadership of the group was kidnapped, castrated and released. Requirements - to let go of ours and loyalty. Several more hostages were taken at the same time. During negotiations with the Arabs, it turned out that the Israeli special services had paid them for the operation, not directly, they went through the chain again. The goal is to embroil the USSR with the Arabs. After that there was a game of special services and trade - everything was as usual. This story is sensational, only 10 years ago ours admitted that they themselves participated, and not "friendly Arab organizations."
Only now you will not find links to the Israeli trail, but it was. Unless the veterans of your special services speak out. By the way, not only in this case. And now, intelligence agencies, including Israel, are actively working with terrorists, and on occasion use them.

[Death Nik1]

Here is the link from here:
http://2006.novayagazeta.ru/nomer/2006/48n/n48n-s11.shtml

"In 1985, four employees of the Soviet embassy were captured in Beirut. The situation in Lebanon was then: the country was divided between Syria and the Hezbollah organization, the latter being friends with Yasser Arafat, providing his people with camps on Lebanese territory."

That is, do you think Israel paid Hizaballe (and it was she who organized the attack), which was on the content of Syria? Great story. Nothing bothers you about it?

PS
Why then does Hezbollah fight against Israel if it is kept by Israel?

[andj61]

Even from this source of yours there is NO evidence that it was Hesboll who participated in the abduction. And then only experts heard about Hesbollah, and Shiites were really represented in Lebanon by a completely different organization - Amal. If we remember about Lebanon’s division at that time, then google - then there was a certain major Haddad and his army of Southern Lebanon - a thoroughly pro-Israeli organization created with the money of the Israeli special services and supported directly by the Israeli army. It was precisely this group that stood behind the terrorists who abducted our people - again, not directly, but through a certain chain. But among the specialists who liberated our people and dealt with the terrorists, at least two were ethnic Jews, really able to speak Hebrew, and even not by hearsay familiar with the Torah and Talmud. Just as there were specialists in Shiites, Sunnis, Druze and Maronites - then it was necessary to clearly know who did this, from what motives - and minimize possible damage. There were militants - how could it be without them! The task was completed, there was a bargaining of special services, there was no disclosure. The credibility of the USSR in BV as a result of the operation only increased.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

Even from this source of yours there is NO evidence that it was Hesboll who participated in the abduction.

Colonel SVR Yuri PERFILIEV:
“AND THEN I TOLD THE SHEIKH THAT THE ROCKET CAN FLY TO KHOMEYNI”

http://www.ogoniok.com/archive/2001/4718/43-17-19/


Now please be kind to your links.

[tilix]

Hadad had a largely independent organization, with its headquarters. And they betrayed Israel more than once that the same Sabra stands and rocked the creation of their northern brothers.
Also, on a chain to them (maruns) could come through your church, and order someone from those who your church roofs. But for now, it's "Might." There is no evidence. And it should be.

[andj61]

Quote: tilix

Hadad had a largely independent organization, with its headquarters. And they betrayed Israel more than once that the same Sabra stands and rocked the creation of their northern brothers.
Also, on a chain to them (maruns) could come through your church, and order someone from those who your church roofs. But for now, it's "Might." There is no evidence. And it should be.

Haddad was not independent. And there a certain colonel, let’s say, was driving from Israel. Is the colonel subordinate to the major? Really funny? So he taxied this major.
And to Sabra and Shatila, if my memory serves me, Haddad is not involved. It seems that the Kataiba phalangists organized it. True, they are also Maronites.
And you ask yourself, where did these independents from the Army of South Lebanon go? So you live in the neighborhood!
And as for the evidence - this will remain an urban legend and memories of veterans - both Russian and Israeli. However, there were much more countries involved - plus the USA, France, Iran (transferring its Iranian Hezbollah closer to Israel at that time), the Arabian kingdoms of the Gulf, Syria, Egypt, etc., etc.

[tilix]

Say, relatively independent, especially in relation to operations with the local population. At that time, we had such an assumption that locals understand better than others how to work on the spot. For example, in ElHiyam prison, there were no Israeli investigators.

You ask yourself, where did these independents from the Army of South Lebanon go? So you live in the neighborhood!

We know. They were invited and those who wished moved to Israel. About five thousand. This was the only positive growth of the Christian population in a single country in the Middle East. Still.

[revnagan]

Quote: Smert Nik1

And why did you, the citizens of Russia, vote for such power?

Oh, Lord, it's just a penny for the fish. And Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, who would let us go to the polls? After all, what annoys people? and then they claim that they were HONESTLY CHOSEN BY THE PEOPLE. Here, for example, Waltzman. Well, who, WHO chose him for the presidency? YES, NOBODY !!! HOW did he get there? If no one voted for him? conspiracy ".

[Death Nik1]

Quote: revnagan

.Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, then who would let us go to the polls?

But why is it possible in other countries, but not in Russia?

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: revnagan

.Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, then who would let us go to the polls?

But why is it possible in other countries, but not in Russia?

Well, where did you get the idea that at least somewhere it is possible? Do you really think that by voting for one or another party you decide something in Israel? Everywhere has its own system, which does not allow to remove real power from power. This is done in your country through the competition of one and a half dozen small parties representing the interests of the same financial groups, in the USA these are two parties, in the UK two and a half, in Germany - one and a half plus one and a half, and in Russia - only one and a half. - everything is exactly the same and predictable. And you are seriously declaring that the removal of an elderly well-deserved respected person from power and his imprisonment on far-fetched charges - did you remember your President? is the merit of democracy in Israel!
This is not democracy, but demagogy and idiocy, brought to the point of absurdity: at first it is extolled, and then, when it became objectionable, they took advantage of the slightest and far from impeccable reason to imprison it. If only they didn’t remember about this shame!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

Well, where did you get the idea that at least somewhere it is possible? Do you really think that by voting for one or another party you decide something in Israel? Everywhere has its own system, which does not allow to remove real power from power. This is done in your country through the competition of one and a half dozen small parties representing the interests of the same financial groups, in the USA these are two parties, in the UK two and a half, in Germany - one and a half plus one and a half, and in Russia - only one and a half. - everything is exactly the same and predictable. And you are seriously declaring that the removal of an elderly well-deserved respected person from power and his imprisonment on far-fetched charges - did you remember your President? is the merit of democracy in Israel!
This is not democracy, but demagogy and idiocy, brought to the point of absurdity: at first it is extolled, and then, when it became objectionable, they took advantage of the slightest and far from impeccable reason to imprison it. If only they didn’t remember about this shame!

Well, you can evaluate the accusation against Katsav in different ways. But swallow that there is a difference between how we are punished by those who hold power and how you are. And if we are not satisfied with the authorities, then it would never occur to anyone to blame the Russians or any other people for this. In any case, our power is our choice.

[Neksel]

Quote: andj61

Quote: Smert Nik1

Quote: revnagan

.Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, then who would let us go to the polls?

But why is it possible in other countries, but not in Russia?

the removal of an elderly honored respected person from power and his imprisonment on far-fetched charges - did you remember your President? is the merit of democracy in Israel!
This is not democracy, but demagogy and idiocy, brought to the point of absurdity: at first it is extolled, and then, when it became objectionable, they took advantage of the slightest and far from impeccable reason to imprison it. If only they didn’t remember about this shame!

What kind of power does the President of Israel have? Power is in the hands of the Prime Minister - and the President has no more power than the Queen of England. There is no need to broadcast nonsense and build on them such "clever" logical chains.

[andj61]

Quote: Neksel

What kind of power does the President of Israel have? Power is in the hands of the Prime Minister - and the President has no more power than the Queen of England. There is no need to broadcast nonsense and build on them such "clever" logical chains

And where did I point out that the President of Israel has real leverage?
By the way, the conventional wisdom about the Queen of England is clear evidence of ignorance of the essence of the matter. The royal prerogatives are so vast that they make one think of an absolute monarchy. The queen now has power, which the Russian emperor did not even dream of. True, it is realized by transferring powers to cabinet ministers. But the cabinet also bears responsibility. If necessary, the Queen has the right at any time to remove the cabinet from power. And in Australia, the royal governor-general has already removed the government from power.

As president of Israel, they always tried to elect a well-deserved and crystal-honest person so that he would perform representative functions and be one of the symbols of the state. Think what you have done with this symbol? Yes, in what way ?! But in the end, this is YOUR business. But to brag about IT, to represent IT as evidence of an all-conquering democracy in the state of Israel is naivety and too much!

[tilix]

Ie, you are suggesting that we close our eyes to his "pranks"? It doesn't have to be chosen initially. what about

through far-fetched accusations

Do you really think so?

[andj61]

Quote: tilix

Do you really think so?

Very badly these accusations smack. Opinion from the side: someone deliberately began to rock the boat, grabbing at the crap. The court was not impartial; the defense parties did not seriously consider the petitions at all. Katsav himself was simply ashamed, he was ready to fall through the ground, and he clearly did not understand why he was being pressed like that.
Such processes give rise to aversion to power in general and lead to a weakening of the state. After all, the attack was not on the party, not on the oligarchs, not on the military, that is, not on something really having power and strength, but on a symbol of the state. I think that this was clearly beneficial for someone.

[tilix]

Opinion from

It is really important. I don’t think so, but this option should be considered, although I do not believe in "someone is profitable." Anything that does not happen is beneficial to someone.

[Neksel]

Quote: andj61

And where did I point out that the President of Israel has real leverage?
And you still seriously declare that the removal of an elderly honored respected person from authorities

And what about the well-deserved - this does not give him the right to harass women using his position, and God forbid they would do this in many other cases, which often go unpunished. And who sits higher - from him and the demand is greater. As you rightly pointed out, there must be a "crystal clear" person in this position.
I do not advise you to judge the deserved or undeserved punishment without having real (and not what is poured in the media) information. And I declare this to you precisely because I am personally related to the judicial system and to a large extent familiar with the features of both the case and the system.
And yes, I am very proud of the Israeli justice system. Yes, not without flaws, but where are they not? One can only strive for the ideal.

[Stypor23]

Quote: andj61

And you personally, in response to the comment you didn’t like, begin to aggravate, practically provoke manifestations of anti-Semitism

Of all the local Jews, he does it best. Professional.

[Koshel2901]

ABOUT!!! They have not done anything yet, but we have already been labeled as Bandera, and Bandera in power in Ukraine is normal for them. Everything is clear with you, gentlemen, Israelis (mind you, I do not say "Jews")

[oracul]

Leontyev’s interview only confirms the truth that neither the United States, nor the West, nor Israel and others, need objectivity. Accordingly, Dubov solved the task set for him - to take Leontyev off balance with oak questions. And in general, it’s not necessary to simplify, in this kind of interview, both Putin and Lavrov, I think, would have been not easy either, because there is frank provocation when you and your answers are not listened to and not heard.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: oracul

Leontyev’s interview only confirms the truth that neither the United States, nor the West, nor Israel and others, need objectivity

I agree. You don’t need it either. Just look at how your RT covers the news of terrorist attacks in Israel.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Just look at how your RT covers the news of terrorist attacks in Israel.

And how does RT illuminate them? Honestly, I use the Internet, sometimes I watch the main Russian channels, which RT is not included in, but, in my opinion, the terrorist attacks in Israel are covered in sufficient detail and with a negative connotation for terrorists.
And if we take into account that the "talking" heads of the Israeli police and military for our journalists provide information in Russian, and even the names of some are Slavic through and through, then a different effect arises - look, and there our terrorists are beating!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

And how does RT illuminate them? Honestly, I use the Internet, sometimes I watch the main Russian channels, which RT is not included in, but, in my opinion, the terrorist attacks in Israel are covered in sufficient detail and with a negative connotation for terrorists.

RT was happy to describe the suffering of Gaza during the war, but in the period preceding the war it "forgot" to talk about the shelling of Israeli cities with rockets from Gaza, which, in fact, largely provoked the last (and penultimate) conflict. My 11-year-old daughter, who understands Russian quite well, having watched a Russian TV program once, asked me in a childish way: "Dad, why are they lying like that?" In general, in her I try to cultivate love for Russia, as for the country where her ancestors lived, but here I simply did not know what to answer. It seems to me that since then her attitude towards Russia has changed a lot.

[Magadan]

I will not boast, but I personally do not have the difficulty of rigidly putting on the 5 point those who are trying to prove something against Russia and New Russia.
Damn, there are so many hard facts against the junta that you have to be an oligophrenic so as not to prove the obvious.
1) The junta is illegitimate, if it is about "legality".
2) Junta - scumbags, remember Odessa, Maripol and other civilians shot and tortured by the Nazi junta.
3) Crimea was threatened by Maidan power in the open. In Odessa we see that the threats were not empty. Therefore, Russia simply saved the lives of people. Moreover, Crimea was transferred to Ukraine purely out of control and people there did not feel themselves as Ukrainians. We trusted them with people, and they were going to kill them.
4) The war in the Donbass began on the 2 of May, when Ukrainian troops went to storm Slavyansk. Before that, they just wanted federalization
5) The shooters in Slavyansk and the Militia are not the cause of the war. In Odessa there was no Militia, so what? It didn’t stop LIVING people
6) Boeing. If Russia knocked him down, why then does the West in every way slow down the meeting and does not want to talk about the contents of black boxes?
7) There are plenty of photos of Ukrainian troops with Nazi symbols. Bandera is the hero of dill officially. Who else has questions on the topic of fascist / non-fascist?

[Signature]

After amputation of conscience, a person does not become oligophrenic, but simply becomes (deliberately delicately express myself!) Unconscious.
But how many "sore questions" disappear. Together with the need for "moral quest" and the painfulness described by all sorts of Tolstoys and Dostoevsky "moral torments". In general, if conscience is "minus", you will get a continuous benefit in all directions (by the way, both "internal" and "foreign policy", in particular).

[Signature]

The conversation between the two antipodes is somehow really always pointless. Can anyone, having thought thoroughly, prove that the conversation between the two antipodes makes some sense in principle?
I remember, many years ago (and it was deeply Soviet time), I happened to hear a thing that struck me: that a tomato salad - to improve the taste - IT IS ADOPTED (EVERYTHING in this wording!) To sprinkle ... with sugar (and at least , one national cuisine comes from - this is true, - from such an installation).
When the slight stupor passed, only one counterargument flashed in my head - as a salvation. "And why, then, is there salt on the tables in cafes and restaurants, despite the fact that there is no sugar on the tables?" - that was my low-power "crown" question.
In response, I happened to hear the following: "There would be sugar, but it is much more expensive than salt (in the sense that it cannot be" freely available "for financial reasons)." To be honest, I still can't figure out what it was necessary to "cover" with. Maybe someone else will figure it out?

[bmv04636]

Why liberals should be for Novorossia
A part of the media class has a strange way of equating the armed conflict in Novorossia with the armed conflict in Chechnya and poking this comparison into the interlocutor, seeking recognition of the confession of double standards. Recently, a certain part of the Russian media class, claiming to be liberal, has a strange way of equating the armed conflict in Novorossia with the armed conflict in Chechnya and poking this comparison as an interlocutor, seeking recognition of the practice of religion of double standards. The interlocutor, realizing that the difference between Bezler and some Khattab, or between Zakharchenko and Basaev, is huge, but for some reason being unable to formulate this difference in a form suitable for further discussion, he braces and retreats, leaving the battlefield behind the triumphant hipster . In the framework of the perpetual action to protect the good and the truth, we decided to help good people who feel the truth, but are not able to give it a formal logical character to people.
I propose not to be penny wise and to evaluate and compare the reality given to us in sensations and memories from the point of view of human rights - the central concept of liberalism.
First, let's figure out whether it is correct to call both Chechen fighters and members of the armed groups of New Russia terrorists. In accordance with the criminal law of Russia, terrorism “is the commission of an explosion, arson, or other actions that create the danger of death, causing substantial property damage or other socially dangerous consequences, if these acts were committed in order to violate public safety, intimidate the population or influence decision-making by the authorities, as well as the threat of these actions for the same purpose. ” Do we know examples of terrorist acts committed by Chechen separatists? Yes, of course. These are seizures of schools, hospitals and maternity hospitals, explosions in various cities of Russia. Are we aware of such actions on the part of the armed groups of the DPR and LPR? No, we are not aware of such actions. Also, our respected and certainly no less loving truth opponents often call members of the armed groups of the DPR and LPR nationalists and even Russian fascists. However, we are not aware of the actions of the DPR and LPR authorities aimed at infringing human rights on the territory of the LPR and the DPR on a national basis, we are not aware of crimes that could have signs of genocide - destruction, obstacles to reproduction, and eviction of people from a particular territory. At the same time, we know that in Dudayev’s Chechnya, ethnic cleansing was systematically carried out, expropriation of property, housing was carried out on a national basis, ethnic minorities were affected in their rights, and freedom of conscience was not respected.

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Now let’s compare the goals of creating the DPR, LPR, modern Maidanized Ukraine and Dudaev’s Ichkeria in terms of human rights. So, for what purpose was Ichkeria created? Ichkeria was created as a mononational state, living according to the laws of Sharia. That is, a state that does not recognize the human right to freedom of conscience, the equal rights of women and men, is an ethnocratic state. Maidan Ukraine was created as an ethnocratic state, denying the rights of national minorities to autonomy, to preserve their culture.
# {author} LPR and DPR were created as refuge states by Ukrainian nationalists from violations of the rights of the Russian-speaking minority. In the DPR and LPR, there is no discrimination against Ukrainians, there is no prohibition of the Ukrainian language. Thus, the LPR and the DPR were created to ensure the protection of human rights in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and modern Ukraine and Dudaev Ichkeria were created to violate human rights at the level of state policy. Therefore, every honest liberal should be for Novorossia and against Ukraine and Ichkeria. However, we see that for some reason the state, which upholds liberal values ​​at the international level, and people who call themselves liberals, take absolutely the opposite position on these issues. Why? The answer, it seems to me, lies in the recent vote on the resolution “On the fight against the glorification of Nazism” introduced by Russia at the UN, in which only three countries opposed the adoption of the resolution — the United States, Canada, and Ukraine. Thus, these countries believe that the practice of Nazism is an inalienable human right. And since Nazism is a doctrine requiring the violation of human rights, the denial of these rights by entire nations, from the point of view of these countries, not all are people, but only those who are able to profess Nazism. Other - contrary to formal logic.
Roman Nosik.
Here you have the answer gentlemen Channel 9 Israel.

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Any lie contradicts formal logic.
The problem is precisely what is before us - those who have never been guided by the demand of truth and who have not sought it.

And this begs the question: can there be a failure in tactics, proceeding from the fact that you (i.e., an abstract individual) must be infallibly honest, arguing with a notorious crook?
Is it possible in this way to defeat the rogue somewhere and ever at all? It’s possible to look honest (i.e. look beautiful). But look - at the same time - can you also be smarter than a rogue?

Since the 1870s, the philosophical foundation of business (and, for the most part, of any other) American culture is pragmatism, which recognizes as true what brings benefits / benefits (so no such searches for truth in themselves are long ago supposed).

[andj61]

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Here you have the answer gentlemen Channel 9 Israel.

Thank you, Maxim! very reasoned, plus.

[Death Nik1]

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Here you have the answer gentlemen Channel 9 Israel.

They forgot to mention one trifle. Please recall how Israel voted on this resolution?

[combat66]

A very convenient position with the interviewer ....
Aggression against Russia against Georgia ?! After Georgian troops attacked the Russian base ....... It was necessary to stop at the border with Turkey.
Although I am sure that in this situation there were again ultimatums of the "Anglo-Saxons", as during the Russian-Turkish. As it is not convincing Mikhail fought back, but all the same, it is clear that his soul is sick, OUR Man!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: combat66

Aggression against Russia against Georgia ?!

And why should Israel support Russia if Russia often takes an openly anti-Israeli position?

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Quote: Smert Nik1
And why should Israel support Russia if Russia often takes an openly anti-Israeli position?

Why? If only because it is most correct to support what is right, and not what seems to be beneficial. Otherwise, morality must be crossed out and said that for most stupid, this is just a trick that helps to effectively deal with those who have a conscience.

[Death Nik1]

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Why? If only because it is most correct to support what is right, and not what seems to be beneficial.

Then it turns out that Soviet / Russian support for Arab terror is right? All this rests. Your best friends are our best enemies.

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QUOTE: Smert Nik1
Then it turns out that Soviet / Russian support for Arab terror is right? All this rests. Your best friends are our best enemies.

I’m silent about today's Russia. And as for Soviet politics, I will say that it - in the Middle East - proceeded from the recognition of the same Arabs' right to life and the conditions that guarantee it, as well as the symmetrical right of the Jews.
You can not oppress others and wait for them to answer this with love and trust. In the USSR, ethnic hatred was not enough precisely because somehow it was not meant that the carriers of some nationality had more merit to world science, for example (and the Jews had a lot of them), and the carriers of some other had less. Therefore, it was possible to respect and value a person not because of his ethnicity, but because he meant himself.
Don't start talking about "distortions": only the deceased do not have them.

[Death Nik1]

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I’m silent about today's Russia. And as for Soviet politics, I will say that it - in the Middle East - proceeded from the recognition of the same Arabs' right to life and the conditions that guarantee it, as well as the symmetrical right of the Jews.

And why did the USSR not demand from its Arab friends the recognition of the Jewish state and peace negotiations? Let me remind you that the whole fuss in BV began when the Arab neighbors decided not to respect the UN resolution in 1948 on the creation of Jewish and Arab states? How do the Soviet leadership’s peace aspirations correlate with dozens (or maybe hundreds) of BILLION dollars. Syria alone was forgiven 10 lard. And there was Egypt, Libya, Iraq and many, many. In Soviet times, your children in the same Chelyabinsk and other cities for months have not seen cheese, sausages and other products. Entire sausage trains traveled to Moscow for groceries, but we will supply our beloved Arabs with as many rockets and tanks as they ask for the destruction of hated Israel.

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QUOTE: Smert Nik1
And why did the USSR not demand from its Arab friends the recognition of the Jewish state and peace negotiations? (and more ...)

I will not get involved in a pointless discussion (you are hardly a diplomat, I am definitely not him).
Just to notice: AS ( ?!) may come to mindthat a communist-oriented individual will hate Israel just like that (from the principle of what is called), if he reveres the authority of the notorious Karl Marx - a natural German Jew ?!
And do not shower with arguments: no one is silent when he expects that he will fill his opponent with unverified or unrealistic information, tired him and depriving him of the desire to somehow navigate the ruins of dubious "truths." "Tours on wheels", where they ascend in the same orbit and love for high ideals and longing for sausage, is a kind of mental centrifuge that opens (as you know) the longed-for "window of opportunity" (there is a saying: "Lie, lie - something yes will remain! ”And by the way, it ALWAYS remains ...).

[Death Nik1]

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Karla Marx

Karl Marx came from a family of crosses. If you read his remarks about the Jews, you will be surprised and think that you are reading Mine Kapp.

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QUOTE: Smert Nik1
Karl Marx came from a family of crosses. If you read his remarks about the Jews, you will be surprised and think that you are reading Mine Kapp.

The experience of a passing polemic showed that our orientations are directly opposite, and moral attitudes too. This is the case when either salt in a tomato salad, or sugar. And no comments through this abyss will not carry. By the way, I don’t belong to the church at all (I’m an atheist, practically, as they say, since infancy, but this choice is exclusively my personal one): did you really expect anything else ?!
In general, as it is there - in the immortal Gaidaev's "Caucasian captive" - ​​"Let's stop this senseless discussion!" (after all, any "final" in it "shines" only as a dead end).

[tilix]

HOW (request?!) It may come to mind that a communist-oriented individual will hate Israel just like that (from the principle of what is called), if he reveres the authority of the notorious Karl Marx - a natural German Jew

To whom do they pray in church? Now read your sentence again, knowing how much the church (as an organization) of anti-Jewish

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To whom do they pray in church? Now read your sentence again, knowing how much the church (as an organization) of anti-Jewish

Do you suppose an inveterate atheist - in this case, me (although Marx's "case" is from the same "series") - is incredibly worried about the theoretical delights of theologians? ..
So I will simply emphasize: having seen the "minus" that someone put to you, I made a decision to immediately neutralize it with my personal "plus".

It seems to me that sometimes you can be so wise that wisdom ceases to correspond to itself. Do you know what double negation means - according to the rules of formal logic?

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AUTO-QUOTATION: I decided to immediately neutralize the onago ...

Here is someone truly humane and compassionate honored my "opus" with a sign of affection (ie plus). But I look at what I have written and blush. It's a shame! It is a shame to lose so much the knowledge of "native dialect". The comma is not supplied, the style is below any "tolerance level".
I blush: since you undertake to "podium", "loudly" and "orator", - you need to follow your "grammar with syntax" ...

(Those who believe that after self-incrimination - even out of place - the soul "warms up" are right ...)

[tilix]

Dear, I just wanted to show that the respect of a Jew does not necessarily extend to other Jews. Or Kazakhs, or no matter whom. But it seems to me that you yourself understand this.

[andj61]

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To whom do they pray in church? Now read your sentence again, knowing how much the church (as an organization) of anti-Jewish

You put an equal sign between Judaism and Jewry - these are very close, but, nevertheless, different concepts. Now even in Israel there are already Jewish Christians, and even 30 to 40 years ago this was the basis for the denial of citizenship. In addition, they pray in the church to Jesus, the Virgin, the apostles. Please tell me who they were by nationality?
And after that you will continue to claim that the church is anti-Jewish?
By the way, in the ROC a number of priests are Jews by nationality, but not Jews by religion.

[tilix]

They who were baptized are no longer Jews. For better or worse, our definitions are harsher for a year, but clearer. They

Jews by nationality

in yours, but not in our eyes. In our eyes, they are Jews by birth, but not by their very nature.

there are christian Jews

They were always there, and he renounced his citizenship when applying for citizenship (for reasons above), and not after the fact that he was already a citizen.

will continue to claim that the church is anti-Jewish

I will. Praying to Jewish individuals, the church denies and previously persecuted Jewish life (by beating ).

[andj61]

By the way, now, after the decision of one of the cases of granting citizenship to a Jewish Christian (L. Ulitskaya described this case in her book, the name is forgotten), citizenship is granted, recognizing him as a Jew who is not a Jew. And the church fought against Judaism as a competitor, and not in the sphere of religion, in the Middle Ages, in the 20th century, these atavisms were almost eliminated: unbelief and atheism are now more dangerous than churches, which, because of proselytism, do not even encroach on the flock.
The question is different - in the anti-church mood of the Jewish community.

[tilix]

There is a high court decision. Having passed the faith, he does not fall under the law of return. He can apply for citizenship for other reasons: as a spouse, like any other non-Jew (for example, Shura Uvarov, formerly the goalkeeper of the Union team and Dynamo who received citizenship), but not by the law of return.

[andj61]

Tell me, Alexander, why do you use the Palestinian flag of 1920-1948 as an avatar?

From 1920 to 1948, the state of Palestine existed in accordance with international law (under the mandate of the "A" class), but it was, like all its main institutions, Jewish. Until the 1960s, the name "Palestine" sounded like something Jewish to European ears. The Muslims rejected this name as not belonging to them. The 4000-year-old Jewish homeland, or the "Land of Israel", or the "Holy Land" were all synonymous !!
The British, as mandate holders, ruled or tried to rule the country in conjunction with Jewish auxiliary power, until the Jews regained official sovereignty in 1948, declaring independence.
The UN did not "re-create" Israel, as some people claim.

This is the Larousse French Dictionary of 1939. The appendix lists all the flags of the world existing at that time in alphabetical order.

[tilix]

Because until 48, the Palestinians were Jews, and the Arabs were either Arabs of southern Syria or northern Egypt. They are trying, calling themselves Palestinians today, to cling to Plishtim in order to obtain some historical rights, having, in the majority, nothing to do with them. A very interesting study will be published on this subject on Sunday.
Kavod (respect) for vigilance and the ability to google. some comrades take googling as an insult.

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QUOTE: Smert Nik1
I will not say anything about today's Russia. <...> Whole sausage trains went to Moscow to buy food, but ... we will supply our beloved Arabs with as many missiles and tanks as they ask for free, just to destroy hated Israel.

You see, I proceed from the fact that the donkey cannot announce the surroundings with nightingale trills: it is not given to him (God forbid to think that there are any hints of my opponents: I am quite a sane individual, not a brutal sociopath)! The USSR fell because of its penchant for romanticizing and idealizing the human. And because of the same inclination, he did nothing, guided by "selfish motives." So the theme of "Soviet / communist fanaticism / greed / snake slyness / Jewish hatred" and so on. In principle, I cannot consider nonsense: I would rather believe in the possibility of a perpetual motion machine than in the fact that a "romantic" and a "usurer" can somehow be combined in one whole.
It's interesting to argue. But arguing about meaningless is meaningless. So it’s not you who make me "run away", but my deep inner conviction that: a) to tell you and me - to spoil your health; b) there is also something about which to argue - definitely should not be ...

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In the USSR, ethnic hatred was not enough precisely because somehow it was not meant that the carriers of some nationality had more merit to world science, for example (and the Jews had a lot of them), while the carriers of some other had less .

Correct yourself (otherwise it will not be understood very clearly; immediately failed to fix due to communication problems):

It should be said so:
In the USSR, ethnic hatred was not enough precisely because it was not meant that carriers of a nationality had more virtues and rights because of greater merits, for example, to world science (and Jews had a lot of them), whereas carriers some other - less.

[Koshel2901]

What class are you a buddy in?

[Stypor23]

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Aggression against Russia against Georgia ?!

And why should Israel support Russia if Russia often takes an openly anti-Israeli position?

A strange thing turns out. Russia allegedly comes out with a frank anti-Israeli position, and trade between the countries is growing, and tourists can’t jamb to Israeli resorts.

[Death Nik1]

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A strange thing turns out. Russia allegedly comes out with a frank anti-Israeli position, and trade between the countries is growing, and tourists can’t jamb to Israeli resorts.

Because we have a very strange relationship. Business online. And in politics, neither Russia nor Israel have changed their position. Cold world.

[Net]

That's right, Israel must support the one who pays him - the United States. Will pay the Russian Federation, then we will put forward claims, which they say do not support.

[Death Nik1]

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That's right, Israel must support the one who pays him - the United States. Will pay the Russian Federation, then we will put forward claims, which they say do not support.

Very reasonable point of view. Here you explain to me why Syria, to which you wrote off several tens of BILLION dollars, does not recognize either Abkhazia, nor South Ossetia, nor Novorossia?

[Net]

But who needs these confessions. There is no longer anything to do with diplomatic curtsies. We do not approve of transferring everything into Syrian money because they are alone opposing the United States and Assad has prevented the holding of another US play about a dictator and unhappy people. I think about the Syrians we would not particularly worry, but it so happened that they became the next arena of the war against us. Now or later, but agree to shoot back from Uncle Sam is better somewhere in Syria than from your own window. Syria will fall then Iran and then maybe God forbid we start.

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And why should Israel support America when it always led the anti-Israeli line and even fought against Israel (then you sank their ship) and was against the creation of Israel in principle because they had Arabs friends? Friends of America Qataris and KSA sponsors of terrorism on BV sponsors of Hamas (Qatar).

[Net]

Because there are probably even more Jews in the USA than in Israel itself, and because Israel regularly receives money from them. I do not know if the United States fought with the Jewish state, but on international issues, Israel is on the side of the United States, unless of course the essence of the matter is Israel itself.

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Because there are probably even more Jews in the USA than in Israel itself, and because Israel regularly receives money from them. I do not know if the United States fought with the Jewish state, but on international issues, Israel is on the side of the United States, unless of course the essence of the matter is Israel itself.

Money from the USA and Hitler received with joy and Stalin a little, which the Jews so dislike. It will be necessary the Israeli lobby (AIPAC, ADL, WZO etc) in the United States merge the United States. But all the wars in Israel were at the direction of the West, and their puppets in Israel, such as Netanyahu, performed tasks. In addition to the Rabin, whom they killed, he dared to reconcile the region really.

[Net]

Well, the phrase "friends of the USA" is generally an oxymoron, and Israel is no exception. The lobby openly threatened Obama with unsupported supporters ahead of the last election. I understand that those who defend Israel, just look at the map to see that Israel does not care about the old accounts of the superpowers of the West and Russia, about some sort of showdown in geopolitics, it solves its local and pressing problems (if we take out the ZOG and there is something else ) And it’s more logical to get a gesheft and a stop, on the other hand. But we do not like such conformists. When a Jew is absolutely sincerely proud that he is the most intelligent, we are outraged that the cunning in our mind is not accepted. So, maybe Israel currently has a conflict with the Dark Lord, he will not support us anyway.

[Egor65g]

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But all the wars in Israel were at the behest of the West

All the wars of Israel were defensive, why are you distorting.

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But all the wars in Israel were at the behest of the West

All the wars of Israel were defensive, why are you distorting.

Of course, defensive, because you have the IDF, your propaganda says. And in fact, the provocation of the special services is not rare in the interests of the Israeli military-industrial complex and the overseas lobby, against the interests of the citizens of Israel, by the way, that is, you. To annex new Palestinian territories. All under the pretext of attacking the "unfortunate", Israel is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[Egor65g]

Come on you.

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And upon the provocation of the intelligence services, it’s not uncommon for Israeli ones in the interests of the Israeli military-industrial complex and the overseas lobby

Where did the firewood come from? And as for the Palestinian territories, you are right — if this continues — the FYL residents will be forced to build their state in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, etc.
It would not be in 48 to start working, and not to start a war.

[Koshel2901]

This is the passage !!! (About defense)

[andj61]

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All the wars of Israel were defensive, why are you distorting.

The Suez crisis of 1956 can hardly be called a defensive war. Israel, Great Britain and France attacked Egypt. The USSR and the USA almost simultaneously condemned this aggression, and threatened with retaliatory measures. Aggression immediately ended.
All other wars are a continuation of this smoldering, but no longer fading conflict.
And how can the right and the guilty be established in the Arab-Israeli conflict? Jews are right - they returned to their homeland, abandoned in time immemorial. Arabs are right - they were forcibly driven away from this same Motherland. Jews successfully defend their dream they have suffered by the power of their weapons. Arabs also have the right to their state.
Terrorism, the killing of peaceful only have no excuse!

[Egor65g]

I do not agree.
The roots of the war for the Suez Canal (and of all the wars of Israel in general) are the attack of the Arab countries, including Egypt, of the 48th year.

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Jews are right - they returned to their homeland, abandoned in time immemorial

Jews have always been there, despite the fact that a huge part of the current immigrant citizens.

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Arabs are right - they were forcibly driven away from this same Motherland.

Nobody drove them. Those 6oo thousand (for some reason, having bred for several decades to 10 million) left the country at the request of the governments of the Arab aggressor countries. And there is a lot of evidence to this, up to leaflets in Arabic asking for a while to leave the country, until complete destruction Zionist kafirs.

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Arabs also have the right to their state.

They have quite a few Arab countries, from where they, in general, appeared on the lands of Judea and Samaria. Take a look:
http://youtu.be/jauVARIz8ZM

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Terrorism, the killing of peaceful only have no excuse!

And here I agree. The killing of peaceful Israelis has no excuse!

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It’s not convincing that Mikhail fought back

And how can you be convincing if, when looking at an apple, you admit that it is exactly an apple, but from another, you hear that (it turns out, no!) It is an orange (at least "until the end of the day").
What are you going to negotiate with someone who is pathologically lying? After all, there is practically no way to agree - even in theory! Unless, by pressing him to the gallows, you will - as a "discussion" - ask him if he agrees with your humane decision not to hang him. (This will be the only time when his opinion will sincerely coincide with yours).

[MAGNET]

Yes, somehow Leontiev answered in an unflattering way, he didn’t look like him, the man was very literate, smacked of editing, and worthless. And so, well, the jester with them, with everyone. Russia is not the first time, one against all.

[Magadan]

More and more disappointed in Leontief. He really leaked the whole conversation. As if on purpose. Not a word said that:
1) The population of Crimea was OPENLY threatened with reprisal; the Maidan Nazi junta came to power.
2) In Odessa, on May 2, LIVES burned people. On 2 on May the Ukrainian troops launched an assault on Slavyansk. And only after that, Donbass already said - no federalization, only independence, and we will, if necessary, fight.
3) As for Boeing, it was just necessary to ask the question "if the Russians / militias shot him down, why does the West slow down the investigation? Why do the British hide information from black boxes?"

I am convinced that However, this is a pseudo-patriotic get-together. Sixth Column. They were on their website, in June they deleted posts where the need to support the Militia was proved, up to the introduction of troops, if necessary. They sang the mantra about "Miners SidyadNaPopa" and "America Wants to Edit".
Correctly zamusunuyut article

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You brought up the sore subject of the "sixth column" ...
Yesterday, late in the evening, a discussion was broadcast on Channel One (Russian TV, of course). With already fed up - literally on duty - the composition of the experts.
The impressions from the first 2-3 minutes of "complicity" were enough to extinguish the "blue screen" (only so as not to break the TV).
And the monologue of Mr. B. B. Nadezhdin happened to listen. That's where - super-pragmatism with a thick layer of hyper-pragmatism. Appetizingly argued that everyone who, in gratitude, is inferior to America - although they have lost (forgive) their honor and dignity - live gloriously and satisfyingly themselves. And therefore it is imperative for them to imitate: where it is necessary - to bow, where it is necessary - to substitute a cheek for slap in the face (or another part of the body ...).
A yoke - it turns out - can be sweet and desirable. (Some, by the way, feminine specificity can be seen. Especially discordant with the "courageous" appearance of a "strong fist", which I invariably imagine this noteworthy and completely SHAME "orator".)
But this, again excuse my lack of diplomacy, is supposedly the Russian intelligentsia!
After that - a stormy stream of questions: where are the Russians, what happened to them and who replaced their culture ?? .. I think the Russians (now) are not in the best place. And their culture was replaced by venerable "Western values" (everyone knows what it is: money, money and money again ...). But I also think that there are other "Russian intelligentsia", but somehow Russian TV is not happy to find them (why not?).

[andj61]

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But I also think that there are other "Russian intelligentsia", but somehow Russian TV is not happy to find them (why not?).

It's simple - you need to invite someone from the "other" side, otherwise you will get a ten-mouth monologue. People from Kiev Ukraine are no longer going to discuss much, even our politicians are completely hammering them in, who remains? Nadezhdin, Nikonov - and a few more memorable faces.

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It's simple - you need to invite someone from the "other" side ...

And this is just the main pain point!
It does not seem to me - and I am watching these discussions not from Russia - it does not seem that they are good for something. For example, a refrain repeated "It is necessary / necessary to help New Russia !!" for a long time already - as a sharp reason for deep sarcasm: and when will they move from "theory", so to speak, directly to practice? Or, perhaps, someone else - as assistants - is called?
As for the Ukrainian "disputants", there are also doubts: if you chant stupidity and vileness many, many, many times, and even with the same voices, this will certainly have an effect (approximately as in the case of Kashpirovsky).
And then: why invite from Ukraine such outspoken lawyers for the junta (sorry for the bad taste!), Like the Karasevs and supposedly ladies-journalists with poetic names (the notorious "olesya" is just a complete female version of a pure cannibal - without an admixture of intelligence and talents!) How can you stand side by side - discussing - with those who directly broadcast that ATO is a sacred cause? Honestly, except for the banal ... assault - in relation to such speeches - nothing comes to mind (as an adequate reaction).
By the way, it is also - a monstrous tactical mistake (possessing maximum destructive power!) - to drag such ... "Ukrainians" before the eyes of the Russian audience. After all, looking at them, and I begin to quietly hate everything Ukrainian. After the demonstration - on Russian TV channels of similar "plenipotentiaries of today's Ukraine" - it becomes more than understandable why almost 90% of those who visit VOs simply (sorry, but "you can't hide an sewn in a sack!") Get wild at the word "Ukrainian" ... for as a German is not equal to a fascist, so a Ukrainian does not mean a Nazi. The Russian media seem to be helping their Ukrainian "brothers" to quickly fulfill someone else's informational "state order" ... Maybe we need to think more and more prolonged, to whom and why to provide air? After all, maniacs, for example, are still found in our lives. As well as many other things ...

[solovald]

Long ago I noticed that Leontyev does not know how to polemize on-line. This interview gave him away. Like many talking heads, he is "smart, ironic and even witty" only when he speaks on a prepared stage, for example, in "However".

[The Art of War]

How did this Israeli (miracle) immediately when I heard about Kolomoisky immediately stand up for the defense, and that Kolomoisky finances punitive battalions that walk under fascist banners here, Israel does not see shame on Israel.

[Death Nik1]

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How did this Israeli (miracle) immediately when I heard about Kolomoisky immediately stand up for the defense, and that Kolomoisky finances punitive battalions that walk under fascist banners here, Israel does not see shame on Israel.

And the fact that officially authorized processions under the swastika are taking place in the center of Moscow, the Russian leadership does not want to notice? Israel is not a big country to get involved in other people's conflicts. We have enough conflicts of our own. Kolomoisky-began to serve're coming out to the fascists who kill Russians? I think that the Russian FSB is able to "cure" this patient without the help of colleagues from the Mossad.

[The Art of War]

Mossad would have cured it himself, if your government needed it, from here they support him.

[Death Nik1]

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Mossad would have cured it himself, if your government needed it, from here they support him.

Logic is on the verge of fiction. But doesn’t it occur to you that the Israeli government, to put it mildly, doesn’t care what is happening in Ukraine? Israel, unlike other, larger countries, is not concerned about resolving all the world's conflicts of others, especially those that occur 3000 km from here. He has enough problems at a much shorter distance.

[Egor65g]

Here are those on! Impeccable logic

[Koshel2901]

Really funny.

[Koshel2901]

Friend, you are incurable.

[The Art of War]

Groysman, Kolomoisky announce the entire list of Jews who unleashed a civil war in Ukraine.

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Alas, the matter is not in the Jews and, in general, not in the national question.
I think that among the rabid, killing people in the southeast of Ukraine, Russian-speakers of non-Jewish origin prevail.
Firstly, she spoke and speaks the SINGLE-PREVAILING PART of Ukraine, no matter what Yaytsenyuk and Co. broadcast for this reason.
And, secondly, ethnic Jews in Ukraine are, nevertheless, a minority. By the way, Goebbels’s grandmother was Jewish too.

[The Art of War]

It is also sad that the Slavs are fighting among themselves, and the Jews profit and laugh, as they kill each other

[Death Nik1]

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It is also sad that the Slavs are fighting among themselves, and the Jews profit and laugh, as they kill each other

Every time I write - go to the Duma, enact a law banning Jews from living in Russia.

[The Art of War]

I am for confiscate everything and send everyone to their homeland.

[Death Nik1]

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I will confiscate everything and send everyone back to my homeland.

So why Russian citizens (and 80% of Russians among them) do not vote for people like you?

[The Art of War]

Have not conducted a survey of citizens on this issue yet.

[Death Nik1]

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Have not conducted a survey of citizens on this issue yet.

What are you waiting for? Directions from Tel Aviv?

[The Art of War]

No snotty ice.

[Death Nik1]

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No snotty ice.

So go ahead and with the song. Stop chatting and complaining. Do something already.

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QUOTE: The Art of War
It is also sad that the Slavs are fighting among themselves, and the Jews profit and laugh, as they kill each other

So in this "strangeness" there is nothing strange, alas. If you do not look at it from the point of view of the so actively proposed - and imposed - "interethnic problems".
Relationships (and not even the first century away!) Are being clarified by those who want justice for everyone (for themselves, of course, too), and those who want what they themselves designate as "justice" - exclusively for themselves.
And among the former, and among the latter, there are Russians, Germans, Ukrainians, Jews, Turks, French ... In general, there are representatives of all and all nationalities.
A good Russian cannot love a bad Russian. Because "What for ?!" And where then will there be "bright ideals" if he falls in love?
Remember that - just thinking about this impossibility - one of the main characters of everything created by Dostoevsky (Ivan Karamazov) lost his mind.

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Signatur

By the way, Goebbels’s grandmother was Jewish too.

Yes, in the leadership of the Reich, everyone was Jewish. The Poles are also convinced that if it weren’t for the Jews, Hitler would never attack Poland. It is your psychological defense that works. You were brought up so that the Jews are an absolute evil.

[Signature]

And you are a true "master of" debatable "culture" (perhaps, you have already had a "black belt" in this business for a long time?).
That is, I honestly tell you a well-known fact (about my grandmother ...). And you are right there for me - that I have not only not been told, but not even implied (and not shared).
That is, easily, playfully, so to speak, mold your opponent into a primitive idiot and think that after that he will look at you with respect. And I consider shameless manners to be base and in no way a sign of an "exalted" and "discerning" mind.

By the way, the minus hasn’t fallen off you from me and will not even fall (because in your essence it will NOT change anything FOR ANYTHING!).

[Koshel2901]

Well, he has a black belt, you went over it, at best a little darker than white

[Death Nik1]

Quote: Signatur

And you are a true "master of" debatable "culture" (perhaps, you have already had a "black belt" in this business for a long time?).

Only a black bale.

Quote: Signatur

That is, I honestly tell you a well-known fact (about my grandmother ...). And you are right there for me - that I have not only not been told, but not even implied (and not shared at the same time).

Respected. For example, Newton’s laws are also a well-known fact. If I write some nonsense now and ascribe that this is Newton’s law, then you’ll tell about a dozen links (including the same Wikipedia), from which it follows that I froze the nonsense.
Why do you refuse to provide me with links to your so-called "well-known" fact?

[Signature]

The culture of communication through quotes, extracts, links and other "paperwork" is really familiar to me. But I do not like and do not appreciate (in any way "seriously"). So don't expect anything like that (on my part).
And then - to be frank - I am somewhat scared ... the maximalism of your attitude to the fact of the nationality of Goebbels' grandmother. If this is so vital for you - if you please, consider that this is an "enemy libel"! Unfortunately, I cannot count something like this with you: I do not feel moral readiness.

[andj61]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Yes, in the leadership of the Reich, everyone was Jewish.

Oh, in vain you are so! this is a well-known and generally accepted fact.
You better remember the excellent words of the Israeli KVN team:
All people are Jews, but not all
Found the strength to confess!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: andj61

Oh, in vain you are so! this is a well-known and generally accepted fact

Well, let me show you the Jewish origin of the Reich leadership. I look forward to hearing from you to serious sources.

[The Art of War]

Jewish Hitler Soldiers

[The Art of War]

http://www.rjews.net/gazeta/briman1.shtml

[Death Nik1]

Quote: The Art of War

http://www.rjews.net/gazeta/briman1.shtml

The mythical "Hitler's soldiers"

http://vk.com/wall-524993_480654

[Signature]

QUOTE: It would be better if you remembered the excellent words of the Israeli KVN team ...

ANDJ61!

If your remark is not brilliant, then surely somewhere near the brilliant rests!

[their]

The right sector is led by Jewish Israelis. Birch and Kolomoisky have Israeli citizenship, Birch even lived in Israel. The right-wing sector is comprised mainly of former Israelis, fighters of Tsahal, an instructor. In ukroSMI - Ukrointernet work as Israelis journalists write articles in Russian, since they were taught there. To pit Russians among themselves. There they practiced on the Israelis and Palestinians.

Therefore, I am not surprised that such personalities as Khodos, Shamir go to Orthodoxy. The complete loss of morality, conscience, and humanity in the face of some characters

[Egor65g]

Quote: sus

The right-wing sector is comprised mainly of former Israelis, fighters of Tsahal, an instructor.

-open box, not confirmed by anything. A few morons (which are everywhere) are far from the majority.

[their]

Quote: Egor65G

Quote: sus

The right-wing sector is comprised mainly of former Israelis, fighters of Tsahal, an instructor.

-open box, not confirmed by anything. A few morons (which are everywhere) are far from the majority.

You shouldn't be so, you'd better google it, I just don't like slandering. And in Georgia, your would-be instructors who wanted to profit were taught to would-be warriors Gruzinskikh. Google "Israeli instructors in Ukraine", "Israeli right sector".

http://ukraina.ru/news/20141017/1010848368.html

[Egor65g]

I know that in Ukraine there are citizens of Israel, I came across this on the network. By the way, on both sides, as well as Russian citizens.
And about Georgia, I strongly disagree with you. Or thousands of Soviet instructors in the Arab countries, who directly fought with the IDF, you also call unfortunate instructors?

[Koshel2901]

prove it! where are the facts? Only words. Disappointed.

[viktorrymar]

Chet Michael, as a first-grader, he justifies himself, no arguments, no confidence, no facts ...

[mehmeh]

Yes, these are journalists tied to all kinds of funds
If you don’t sing in the right way, you will not see a career
And they are guided by the United States and not by Israel that they have this Israel so a place to start in a big world under the wing of a big dad

[their]

Channel 9 of Israel belongs to the media magnate Alexander Levin and lives in Moscow next to the "tyrant" Putin. And no one tells him to change the channel's rhetoric to pro-Russian, full democracy. Lives in Moscow, the channel shits on Moscow in Israel, blooper.

[bmv04636]

Well, the manza’s ear belongs to Gazprom, in contrast to the West, nevertheless, democracy.

[their]

I would say democracy is on the brink when anti-state notes often come up. This must be stopped, it will not bring to good. I am surprised at the patience of our citizens. I think in another country such a channel would have been closed and done right.

[Turkir]

The channel, judging by Dubov’s level, is for people with Alzheimer's disease and hearing loss.

[kotyara1963]

Bandera's slogan: "Beat the Jews for her too!" Notice, first, the "Jews"!

[Death Nik1]

Quote: kotyara1963

Bandera's slogan: "Beat the Jews for her too!" Notice, first, the "Jews"!

Dear, in 1941, Bandera alive buried my grandmother’s sister in the West. Ukraine. Believe that we remember this very well.

[NiWar]

The wildcard interview format, of course, is suitable for programs such as Morning of Russia, but certainly not for serious conversation.
But volleys of hail from the territory of the city - this, of course, is not very.

[iner]

Mikhail Leontiev, definitely a plus.
But to this journalist, if I may say so, I would recommend to go to Kiev to hint where he came from in front of those Bandera who are not there by the Nazis. And do not carry any fumbles in front of the camera.

[sgapich]

Something to me the facial expressions of this "journalist" reminds me of Zelensky's antics.

[Magamed]

Dmitry Dubov, a provocateur, a yapping mongrel of the State Department working out a bone thrown to him from the master’s table, Kololomoisky, Dubov, Parashenko, the list of Jews thinking in this way and forgetting the ghettos of their own nation is huge, such money is the main value, for the sake of benefits they wanted to spit on all Jews including mother

[gre4any]

Why Leontyev, being a citizen of a country that is not a party to the conflict, should answer such questions. Even a professional like Leontyev can be brought to a shake by such statements of the question. What to say about ordinary citizens. Paradocas: having asked some kind of nonsense, a person must answer this reasonably. "One fool can ask so many questions that even a hundred wise men cannot answer them" V.I. Lenin.

[padded jacket]

I think everything is much simpler here, we are just talking about the destruction of Russia as a state (and the present Jew does not give a damn who Bandera is), they are ready to cooperate even with the devil, even with whom, the most important thing is result.
А resultthe liquidation of Russia as an independent power.
With the help of people like them, the Soviet Union was already destroyed, but it turned out to be small. The country still withstood and began to gain, if not the past, but also quite significant power.
And this is just a "catastrophe" for them. These "figures" from the US, Israel and the EU want us to drag out a "miserable" existence (preferably in a highly fragmented form), they do not need a strong Russia, they need our resources.
From here comes the war in Ukraine and again, as in the collapse of the USSR, at the head of this fascist junta, Jews + local traitors and nationalists.

[padded jacket]

Although there is such an opinion:
Stefan Bandera - baptized Jew, Uniate. Greek Catholic from the village of Stary Ugryniv near Kalush, born during the Austro-Hungarian rule in Galicia. His father, Adrian Bandera, is a Greek Catholic from the bourgeois family of Mikhail and Rosalia (nee Glodzinskaya, a Polish Jew by nationality) Bander. Stefan (Stefan) was the second child after Martha's older sister. His surname (which modern nationalists translate as "banner") in Yiddish means: Bander - "brothel keeper."

[padded jacket]

You can read about his "exploits" for example here:
http://ujnoruss.com/index.php/statishchi/tajny-proshlogo/642-stepan-bandera-dush
itel-kotov
And the fact that now the fascist government in Ukraine, led by their president Poroshenko (Valtsman), praises the fanatic killer Bandera is not at all surprising.

[mamont5]

They speak different languages. Do not understand...

[Egor65g]

And here's what interests me.

The Egyptian military is preparing a large-scale operation against terrorist organizations in Gaza.
This was announced in an interview with the Palestinian Agency IAAN by a representative of the Egyptian security forces.
According to him, the Egyptian Air Force aircraft made aerial photographs of Gaza to identify possible targets of the attack.
In recent days, the contradictions between Hamas in Gaza and the military junta that seized power in Cairo have sharply intensified.
On October 2, the commander of the Second Army, General Ahmad Wasfi, said that "the patience of the Egyptian military has run out" and threatened to launch a military operation against the Gaza jihadists.

The Egyptians evicted the FILYSTIN people from hundreds of houses, destroyed residential neighborhoods 500 meters deep into the gases. Almost daily wet in the toilet Hamasnikov, not going into details — are they peaceful or not peaceful.
And where are all the European defenders of the poor and oppressed fILYSTINS? And where are the lovers to condemn Israel AgraEsiya from this site? Huh?
Now imagine instead of the word Egypt-Israel.
I think the number of comments with convictions would easily have exceeded one thousand.

[Zymran]

Leontiev was blown away, this is not a photoshopped airplanes on TV show

[padded jacket]

And the fact that local Israelis accuse those disagreeing with them of "fascism" and anti-Semitism is generally laughable - which is only the law submitted to their Knesset on the recognition of Israel as a state the Jews, that is, the state of only one nation, and they want to adopt such a law in the country where the people live "suffered from Nazism." So, don't listen to their "fairy tales" about bad Russians and "good" Jews.

[Straight]

Who was attacked? On the Russian population of Donbass. Who attacked? The answer is the Nazis, Bandera, lovers of the swastika. Russia's duty to protect Russians in Ukraine! Why debt? Because the Russians in Ukraine are not newcomers, this is their original land and no one has the right to shoot them and expel them from their land! Well, because it is the Russian people who are looking at us and waiting for help ...

[tilix]

You underestimate you Leontiev. Having gone into the trap, with losses, but managed to escape. A trap is magnificent, no matter the question, a pearl. Dmitry Dubov is a pro of the highest class. BEAUTY. I usually don’t watch the 9 channel, but there is something in this correspondent.

[Gavrohs]

smeared-shout !!! Israeli journalism, she is curious, do not lie in her mouth! If you agreed to an interview, please be prepared Ernst will not be pleased however.

[RyazanVDV]

Quote: Smert Nik1

Naturally, I made your comment so that everyone would appreciate your love for the Russians.

"You also have problems with the analysis of what you have read. I wrote that the Russians left on their own and, accordingly, they could not even potentially" squeeze out "someone because they emigrated themselves .."
Yeah, we left ourselves! You will leave such a life, you do not need to tell us about the "voluntary" departure. Of course it will be voluntary! As one Kazakh grandfather used to say: Why do you want to buy a house from a Russian, wait - soon it will be yours for free ...
Let me give you the story of one colleague, he strongly hooked me in due time. I have to say right away that he was drinking pretty much, but I have no doubt at all about the veracity of this story, he fled from Kazakhstan with his wife and mother-in-law, leaving ALL in addition to what could be taken away in his hands. One thing was said about special cases, Kazakhs-youth are walking around the city, they have fun, they see the face of a representative of the Europioid race and they slaughter like a dog in a crowd or cut.
But that was not the main thing in the story. The main thing is what was the first thought he had when he moved to Russia. Everything is everyday and simple: To arrive at the arrival of the Astana-Moscow train at the Ryazan intermediate parking lot, to pull the first Kazakh who comes across and stab him, simply to overwhelm without explanation. This is called HATE, it is not born just like that, you need to be able to bring a person to this. Moreover, I saw his eyes, it was not a drunken bravuda, not a psychosis of an Afghan veteran, it was cold, fierce HATE, and knowing his level of special training, he could well "leave cleanly."
By the way, the brother and father of his wife were killed in Kazakhstan in the beginning of the 90s, they were ethnic Germans.
No need to tell that the Russians left on their own, no one supposedly touched them. I admit that everywhere it was different, depending on the specific place of residence. But such stories are full. They squeezed out Russians from all the former Central Asian republics of the USSR, and Kazakhstan is no exception.

[Roman_999]

It's good that he interrupted the conversation, I see no reason to say objective things in response to stupid patterns.