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Mikhail Leontyev: "Israelis should understand who Bandera is" (9 channel, Israel)

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“We were just sent far away,” admitted Vladimir Putin. And he added that the Russian army is polite, but formidable. So, really, war is coming soon? In any case, everyone is now looking for a reason. Well, it would seem, and here the director of the bank - even such a large one like VTB?


Meanwhile, Andrei Kostin this week declared that the disconnection of Russian banks from the international payment system SWIFT would mean war. And, of course, we will urgently need to send the American ambassador from Russia, although this system is Belgian.

But, incidentally, it does not matter. The important thing is that there is more and more talk about the military scenario, and Russian television is spreading this topic. We criticized the Russian authorities a lot, and therefore we considered it necessary to give the podium to its mouthpiece, the journalist Mikhail Leontyev. Interview with him, we recorded the day before.




Dmitry Dubov: Mikhail Vladimirovich, hello. Do you think the current heat of international passions has already matured to the real threat of nuclear war?

Mikhail Leontyev: Well, in fact, the decision was made to slow, I emphasize: slow strangulation of Russia. That is, we are practically told that either you will perish or a draw. I now do not understand what place our partners, Western ones, generally think in, offering such a strange choice. We do not offer them a choice: die or a draw. Do they really want a draw? Because in reality it turns out that Russia has no other choice. In fact, indeed, peace, that is, salvation from a military catastrophe, depends on the ability of our, it means, partners, to understand that Russia will certainly use nuclear weapons. weapon, if she will face the threat of death. I have said many times that the basis of our relations with the United States is not the hydrocarbon trade, but the doctrine of mutual guaranteed non-destruction. And everything else - it is already peace, friendship, chewing gum, and it is held on this solid foundation, and this foundation must be borne in mind.

Dmitry Dubov: Nobody talks about peace and chewing on the background of the nuclear threat and Russia's aggressive policy in the post-Soviet space. So maybe leave the neighbors alone?

Mikhail Leontyev: You are an Israeli journalist. Do you really can in your right mind and solid memory say that Russia annexed the Crimea, and there are some separatists in Ukraine? There are no Russian separatists! We were practically attacked.

Dmitry Dubov: Who! Who attacked you?

Mikhail Leontyev: A special operation is underway, the goal of which is to involve Russia in this conflict. Because the world situation from the point of view of the United States is such that they needed a new cold war. They needed a new opponent. We resisted this in every way. And still resist. "We behave aggressively." Well, come back! Well, aren't you ashamed? Well guys, well? Especially - Israel. We very much appreciate that Israel in this position, in this situation, takes an extremely restrained position, I would even say friendly to Russia. We really appreciate it.

Dmitry Dubov: Well, thank you for appreciating, of course, but let's answer the question again - who attacked Russia, who crossed the border of the Russian Federation?

Mikhail Leontyev: Do you understand that Russians and Ukrainians are one people? When people with portraits of Bandera begin to walk around Ukraine ... Well, the Israelis need to understand who Bandera is? This is a Bandera power! We can not accept the departure of Ukraine under the Bandera power.

Dmitry Dubov: Wait! I tell you about one thing, and you tell me about something else. The nationalists did not go to the parliament of Ukraine.


Mikhail Leontyev:
In Ukraine, the vast majority of the population is silent gloomily. Except for a few western areas. Who profess a certain ideology. He inspired at a known time in a known way. And what, by the way, this ideology means for the Jewish population is very well known.

Dmitry Dubov: Chairman of the Parliament - Groisman, a Jew by nationality.

Mikhail Leontyev:
Yes, and there is Kolomoisky, you watch his videos, where he offered ten thousand for Moskal's head, yes? Look, here Kolomoisky is a shame of the Jewish people. Look at this nits!

Dmitry Dubov: So, you know, let's still observe the elementary framework of decency.

Mikhail Leontyev: Is Russia bombing Donetsk? Russia is bombing Lugansk, right? Are our planes flying there? Russia, perhaps, be hit by this unfortunate "Boeing" fighter?

Dmitry Dubov: Listen, the "Boeing" is under investigation. Maybe it is the separatists?

Mikhail Leontyev: Maybe even so. But you have no information. If you seriously stop here and think, you will admit that you have no information, but there are unsubstantiated accusations, propaganda. Goebbels propaganda!

Dmitry Dubov: Propaganda is when Russian channels are invented history about the crucified boy, sorry.

Mikhail Leontyev: A country that decides to shoot down a civilian aircraft with the aim of blaming Russia - well, what is this, this is the Hitler method.

Dmitry Dubov: But there are cadres, there are cadres of how separatists from residential areas are shelling ...

Mikhail Leontyev: But the plane is shot from aviation guns! There are traces!

Dmitry Dubov: Once again I ask - here are some frames that show, we are now showing them directly, the rockets are launched from the installation, which is located behind the residential building, the Donetsk airport is being fired.

Mikhail Leontyev: At the Donetsk airport, there are no visitors to the airport; by the way, they were shot at the time of the attack on this airport, right? There are no people there, there are Ukrainian power structures, and on the other hand - power structures of the so-called unrecognized republics. And there is a fight! There is a fight, well, and what's new about it? Civil War.

Dmitry Dubov: And then, as a result of the return fire, the inhabitants perish ...

Mikhail Leontyev: What kind of inhabitants? What kind of residents can be in a combat area? Well, someone in the basement ... in Stalingrad, people also hid in the basement, and where, if they have nowhere to go? Retracted, scum. And the army dragged. And the Security Service did not even want the special forces to fight. This is a tragedy, a colossal tragedy for a whole nation, you know? And here you have these same propaganda nonsense, about "Russia is behaving aggressively." If Russia behaved aggressively, there would be no Ukraine for a long time, well, you know perfectly well, it’s just ridiculous.

Dmitry Dubov: Not at all funny. Aggressive politics is when they threaten with nuclear weapons. And direct aggression is a war in Georgia.

Mikhail Leontyev: The Georgian army attacked primarily the positions of Russian peacekeepers. Russian soldiers were killed. Russia was the guarantor, the internationally recognized guarantor of the non-resolution of the conflict of interethnic by force.

Dmitry Dubov: Peacekeepers did not have a mandate to fight. Russia introduced a regular army, and where are the peacekeepers? When there was an operation in Chechnya, not a single state rushed to save the Chechens ...

Mikhail Leontiev: Listen, well, you tell me. Israel when enters the army in Lebanon, for any reason?

Dmitry Dubov: Israel for any reason? Georgia, like Lebanon, shelled Russia? You what?

Mikhail Leontyev: Well listen, here we are, our company has a plant in Lysychansk, right? They fired at the plant. That's how you imagine the militants, they sat down at the refinery? Are they crazy or what?

Dmitry Dubov: Well, what Ukrainian separatists are doing is duplicating the actions of Hamas.

Mikhail Leontyev: In a war, residential buildings are used as objects of war, of course. What do you wonder? I do not know, this is a meaningless conversation, let's finish it.
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  1. SVAROGE
    SVAROGE 10 December 2014 06: 13 New
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    Misha, Misha, the Israelis understand perfectly well who is who .... To whom do you sing these praises?
    They themselves create them ....., for many centuries!
    1. domokl
      domokl 10 December 2014 06: 31 New
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      Quote: SVAROGE
      Israelis understand perfectly who is who

      But I got the impression that the presenter completely refutes your statement. He is confident that Russia is fighting and pushing through precisely this idea ...
      For a long time I have been looking with some doubt at the progressive part of the people, and anyone who understands everything perfectly. Understands what? There is nothing further than lyalya-poplar ... And to say, The time will come and everyone will understand, stupid. The mention in this plan is very indicative Georgia ... Investigation and everything else, we are right ... but what did the jurgalist say?
      No, this material once again showed that for the sake of the dough you can forget everything, even the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews at the hands of Bandera ..
      1. Bykov.
        Bykov. 10 December 2014 06: 40 New
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        Quote: domokl
        No, this material once again showed that for the sake of the dough you can forget everything, even the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews at the hands of Bandera ..

        Nothing! They (Bandera) will soon remind them, refresh their memory.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 10 December 2014 06: 53 New
          +6
          Good morning.
          Last year, 9 Channel blamed a pro-Russian position on an Israeli resource.
          1. Bykov.
            Bykov. 10 December 2014 06: 57 New
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            Quote: mirag2
            Last year, 9 Channel blamed a pro-Russian position on an Israeli resource.

            Here they are robbed and "re-educated" indicatively.
        2. domokl
          domokl 10 December 2014 06: 55 New
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          Quote: Bulls.
          They (Bandera) will soon remind them, refresh their memory.

          Again, I will give an excerpt from the questions .. More precisely, I don’t want to repeat myself. The Speaker of the Rada is a Jew .. And this is perceived by the Israelis as a sign of the absence of fascism ...
          1. Net
            Net 10 December 2014 09: 26 New
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            But do not put pressure on the sore spot of the Israelis - fascism. Is it really not clear that they give such definitions and condemnations only when it is to their advantage? What the whole Jewish community of the former Ukraine shouted about, that this does not concern us, this is not our business. Indeed, what does it matter to them that the Nazis kill Russians, if this does not concern the Jews themselves? "Eternal guests" in any country of their home in their repertoire. Did they much resent the "hand giving" the United States that harbored Nazi criminals? How did they react in the entire short history of the followers of the founder of integral nationalism Dontsov? While they are, THEM personally does not concern them, let them do what they want. That’s why they are touched by clumsy attempts to show them their enemies, that there are terrorists in Syria and Bandera in Ukraine. Their sensitivity to this issue is incredibly aggravated only when millions of compensations can be obtained from this. A game of patriotic feelings, it's all there in Eretz Yisrael, but here it's just a calculation.
            1. gorefest7777
              gorefest7777 12 December 2014 11: 38 New
              +1
              It’s sad ... but there is a definition of Zionism, omitting the rest is one of the forms of Nazism ...
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      2. Ermak
        Ermak 10 December 2014 07: 18 New
        +4
        No, this material once again showed that for the sake of the dough you can forget everything, even the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Jews at the hands of Bandera ..

        And how in the days of Yeltsin, in 96, the whole stage organized a tour, is that in the name of that devastation or the drunkenness of Yeltsin? This answer is many years old and it is one - money and cowardice.
        In general, a strange interview. More like an interrogation or a “trial” or argument. The presenter actively promotes his own opinion, rather than trying to listen.
        1. Turkir
          Turkir 10 December 2014 11: 32 New
          +4
          The host is the one who broadcasts on TV.
          And here, someone who does not even interview, but imposes his vision. This is not a journalist, but a propagandist. He prompts answers and argues (!) With the person he is interviewing.
          Such journalists need to be driven into three necks.
          Counterargument with a boy, the top professionalism.
          1. Gans1234
            Gans1234 11 December 2014 10: 17 New
            +1
            But anyway - this interview - Leontief's failure - he was too angry and was not assembled in order to respond constructively
        2. jjj
          jjj 10 December 2014 13: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Ermak
          In general, a strange interview. More like an interrogation or a “trial” or argument. The presenter actively promotes his own opinion, rather than trying to listen.

          And this is such freedom of speech
          1. Gans1234
            Gans1234 11 December 2014 10: 08 New
            +2
            Totally agree.
            Hard poll for freedom of speech and democracy is one thing
            And this one always frowns, he almost cringed at the answers, jumped from one to another in order to “catch”, but at the same time he compared a chicken egg, an ostrich egg and a golf ball with each other. Well, completely different situations: Chechnya, Ossetia and 08, and Kosovo, and Ukraine - the premise, reasons, methods of war - everything is different
            Conversation of a biased journalist with a biased interlocutor.
            Although I agree with Leontyev
            About the good standard of Western journalism, I repeat, I am completely and completely in favor, but this is not about this bloke
      3. Egor65g
        Egor65g 10 December 2014 10: 27 New
        +4
        The second the oldest profession, What would you like.
        1. Turkir
          Turkir 10 December 2014 11: 35 New
          +5
          We want the representatives of the “second oldest profession” to be the same professionals as the representatives of the “first oldest profession”.
          And what you want, we are so demanding.
      4. Sigizbarn
        Sigizbarn 10 December 2014 10: 33 New
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        9 by the way from the very beginning headed for anti-Russian controversy. The funny thing is that their opinion absolutely does not reflect the opinion of the majority of Russian-speaking Russians. The main audience of this channel is pensioners. Therefore, they are trying to present their vision of the situation.
        And what would not go far then the owners of the channel are Russian oligarchs. So the whole interview is a mirror image of the Russian 5th column.
        Plus, I want to note the completely non-professional behavior of a 9-journalist and violation of all the rules of interviewing.
        9-ku has long been held by the yellow press.
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      6. siberalt
        siberalt 10 December 2014 11: 44 New
        +6
        Dmitry Dubov was born in Tashkent, at age 22 he left for a good life in Israel, a Russophobe, collaborating with Echo of Moscow.
      7. pavel_SPB
        pavel_SPB 10 December 2014 12: 53 New
        +4
        Dmitry Dubov is somehow strange or something ... to say the least.
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 11 December 2014 14: 12 New
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          Quote: siberalt
          Dmitry Dubov was born in Tashkent, at age 22 he left for a good life in Israel, a Russophobe, collaborating with Echo of Moscow.

          Quote: pavel_SPB
          Dmitry Dubov is somehow strange or something ... to say the least.

          To the count of him!
      8. Shishiga
        Shishiga 12 December 2014 22: 06 New
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        But I got the impression that the presenter completely refutes your statement. He is confident that Russia is fighting and pushing through precisely this idea.


        Here soon
        .He is convinced that Russia is fighting and pushing through precisely this idea.


        Although he is more truly
        pushing through this very thought
        am
    2. obraztsov
      obraztsov 10 December 2014 07: 11 New
      +8
      Unfortunately, Mikhail Leontyev has a lot of information, but it is not laid out in the head on the shelves, not clearly structured. Therefore, he was unable to give reasoned answers to the questions of the journalist. They jumped from topic to topic and as a result did not agree on anything.

      Yes, Ukraine did not attack us, but under the blow provoked by the West, there were millions of Russians living in Ukraine. The vital interests of Russia were affected.

      Yes, Georgia did not attack Russia, but it attacked our peacekeepers and the Ossetian population, which they guarded, was under attack.

      And between the war in Chechnya and in New Russia there are simply a huge number of differences.
      1. Sid.74
        10 December 2014 07: 43 New
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        Wait! I tell you about one thing, and you tell me about something else. The nationalists did not go to the parliament of Ukraine.

        What kind of club is this Dubov? And Mosiychuk, Yarosh, Levus, Birch and others. Who is this?
        Che democrats? Ugh Mlyn!
        In general, the Israeli analogue of the "rain"! The same vain liberals! And the whole conversation was based on the postulate "there is no fascism in Ukraine"!




        Who the hell then?
        They began to recall this type of crucified boy, a favorite method of liberalists and clowns from Ukraine on all TV shows. So, the number of lies that the EU, the USA, Ukraine and other "freedom-loving mass media" pour on point blank?
        Why are all Russophobes from the demshiza and the type of "human rights activist" Jews?
        The question is of course rhetorical! what
        1. andj61
          andj61 10 December 2014 09: 58 New
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          Quote: Sid.74
          About this crucified boy, he began to recall this type, a favorite method of liberalists and clowns from Ukraine on all TV shows.

          About the crucified boy - not an invention of Russian propaganda, but the direct speech of a refugee woman from Slavyansk - he saw the report himself. The commentary of the announcer - this is not confirmed by any other sources, it is impossible to believe in it - decide for yourself, true or not. It may have fallen short, but it didn’t seem to be staged. Given the real numerous corpses of those killed by the Nazi Guards - all is not so obvious. To confirm or refute this in the current conditions is simply unrealistic.
        2. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 10 December 2014 10: 40 New
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          Quote: Sid.74
          And the whole conversation was based on the postulate "there is no fascism in Ukraine"!

          Unfortunately, on the site "Channel 9" I did not see the opportunity to leave a comment. Otherwise, I would recommend putting these pictures there. They don’t need us! We already know that. Right?
      2. Denis 60 rus
        Denis 60 rus 10 December 2014 10: 20 New
        +5
        neither Leontiev, nor anyone else can prove anything to such journalists with an arrogant and condescending smile. As they say, pisses in the eye are all God's dew.
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      4. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 10 December 2014 10: 36 New
        +4
        Quote: obraztsov
        . They jumped from topic to topic and as a result did not agree on anything.

        Jumping from one topic to another is such an action plan. Having such a plan will not go astray! His opponent will beat. What ultimately happened.
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      6. siberalt
        siberalt 10 December 2014 11: 54 New
        +3
        You're not right. The question should not contain statements opposite to the expected answer. This is called a provocative style, the result of which is the reaction of the interviewee, and not the answers. Type: "how many will be two two four?" It’s just that Mikhail came across a “fake journalist” working on external effects in the political clown genre.
    3. vrach
      vrach 10 December 2014 08: 01 New
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      In this interview, Leontiev is too slurred, whoever has someone, and his tongue should be suspended, and such a feeling forgot all the arguments and it all came down to a market crush. Let then learn from the GDP.
      For those grandmothers that he receives and the image that he has, everything must bounce off his teeth. But it turns out as if he had been drunk in a tavern and got confused and let's take an interview. If you’re not ready, not assembled, headache, refuse to comment, how can such a thing be reminded to a professional of the ideological front ?!
      All of this is about giving the way to the more capable, not tired.
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 10 December 2014 11: 41 New
        +1
        In this interview, Leontiev is too slurred

        Vorn does not peck out the crow's eye.
    4. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 10 December 2014 11: 15 New
      +7
      Well here we see an example of a classic high-class Jewish trolling, with an Israeli quality mark good Dmitry Dubov, figuratively speaking, simply when he crowded the Kremlin’s propagandon Mikhail Leontyev. Well, what can I say bravo Dmitry hi
      On the other hand, the interview shows the attitude of Western society to the situation around Ukraine and, as we see, it is radically different from the Russian point of view ..
      Quote: Smert Nik1
      My 11-year-old daughter, who understands Russian well, after watching the release of Russian TV once, asked me childishly: "Dad, why are they lying like that?"
      Shaheed, whose cow mumbled .. negative
      Didn’t you shamelessly carry uhhn about the pogroms in 1986 and about the extrusion of Russians in Petropavlovsk ..
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 10 December 2014 11: 44 New
        +2
        It seems to you.
        Dubov showed his extreme lack of professionalism i.e. your stupidity.
      2. andj61
        andj61 10 December 2014 11: 45 New
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        Quote: Alibekulu
        Whose cow mumbled ..

        Right! And I somehow forgot about it! good
      3. Smert Nik1
        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 12: 06 New
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        Quote: Alibekulu
        Didn’t you shamelessly carry uhhn about the pogroms in 1986 and about the extrusion of Russians in Petropavlovsk ..


        Well, you can become a martyr if you come to Gaza, there are people like you there. And then you can meet with me or with other Israelis. Do not worry 72 virgins will be provided to you.


        They were not there? Pogroms of Russians in 1986?
        Do you remember the answer that was given in that topic. Let me remind you of it:

        http://s017.radikal.ru/i407/1412/93/f065076e1e03.jpg
        1. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 10 December 2014 14: 27 New
          +3
          Quote: Smert Nik1
          Well, you can become a martyr if you come to Gaza, there are people like you there. And then you can meet with me or with other Israelis. Do not worry 72 virgins will be provided to you.
          Become as smart as you negative No, thank you .. Don’t jump into Gaza, if it itches like this - march to the airport for a ticket to the Republic of Kazakhstan. At the same time, capture your friend, well, and those who “escaped from the“ funny pogroms in Kazakhstan, ”they will have separate questions about the attacks. 72 virgins do not promise, but we’ll come up with a four-thread ...
          Quote: Smert Nik1
          Let me remind you of it:
          Miracle, you bring me my comment .. fellow
          Quote: Smert Nik1
          They were not there? Pogroms of Russians in 1986?
          I will answer in your style - 1. I expect from you references to serious sources. (C) Shaheed and links to Vedic sites are not necessary. I already laughed
          -2. outright lie, not confirmed by anything. A few morons (which are everywhere) are far from the majority. (C) Egor65G
          1. Smert Nik1
            Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 16: 36 New
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            Quote: Alibekulu
            Miracle, you bring me my comment ..


            Your sparkling mind is simply amazing. Naturally, I made your comment so that everyone would appreciate your love for the Russians. For example, such a passage:

            "Why squeeze. Sami with songs and dances. Even did not have to squeeze."

            Quote: Alibekulu
            I will answer in your style - 1. I expect from you references to serious sources. (C)


            No problem. Here is a quote:

            "Those who gathered in the square rushed with loud screams to storm the Central Committee building, trying to overturn the ranks of soldiers, police and border guards. A fight ensued. Stakes, reinforcement, stones were used, soldiers were forced to use belts and batons. The number of rioters multiplied. Attempts to pacify the crowd were "The wounded appeared on both sides, and a warrior, a local television worker, was brutally killed. I later saw footage of the video, and I was struck by the brutality of the excited crowd."


            Taken from here:

            https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8C%D1%81%D

            0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D0%B2_%D0%90%D0%BB%

            D0%BC%D0%B0-%D0%90%D1%82%D0%B5



            And here is another quote:
            "People fled from Kazakhstan, threw 100-200 hectares of land"


            http://www.rusproject.org/node/1154
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 17: 08 New
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              And here's the catch. It is testified here that the Russians fled from Kazakhstan due to ethnic rather than economic pressure:

              “After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the situation for the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan worsened dramatically. Serious and even life-threatening violence was applied to all family members. Violent persecution led to the fact that the couple lost the child they were waiting for. The police they turned to I didn’t provide them with any help or protection, but on the contrary, they broke the statement about what had happened and threatened to warn them not to file complaints with the higher authorities.
              Citizen X was gang-raped. Militia was physically abused by citizen X, beating, which can be compared to torture or torture. He was burned with lighters, put in the so-called. an electric chair, to which 220 volt electricity was connected, was beaten to a loss of consciousness, forced to look at a lamp with a bright electric light, etc. After torture in an unconscious state and multiple bodily injuries, they took him out of the city and left him in a mountainous area near the road, where he was found and taken to a hospital. The family was also subjected to prolonged telephone terror and their house was routed and plundered. They tried to hide, but were unsuccessful and were found all the time. It would be pointless to move to another region of Kazakhstan, since the population registration system (registration) would have led their persecutors to find them in the new district. In villages and rural areas, the situation for ethnic minorities is much worse than in big cities. There is complete lawlessness. "

              URL:

              http://www.jurist-madeleinekaarik.se/glavnaya/15-reshenija-migracionnoj-sluzhby/
              42-political-refugee-status-to-ethnic-russian-from-kazakhstan
              1. Talgat
                Talgat 10 December 2014 18: 37 New
                +1
                Dear readers of the site - think for yourself what is the purpose of the author from Israel "suicide bomber" when he prints this nasty post here? They are clearly not driven by concern for the “oppressed Russians in the KZ”

                This is obviously a provocation once - secondly, inciting ethnic hatred (we have an article in the Criminal Code)
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 19: 50 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Talgat
                  Dear readers of the site - think for yourself what is the purpose of the author from Israel "suicide bomber" when he prints this nasty post here? They are clearly not driven by concern for the “oppressed Russians in the KZ”


                  The fact that you do not like the post does not make it vile. I just allow myself to remind the whole history of events. Representatives of sunny Kazakhstan rebuked the Israelis that they (the Israelis) are not good with the Arabs (this happened not in this topic, but in yesterday, about Syria). That's right, Israel can hardly be called an example of good treatment of Hezbollah, Assad and Hamas. However, if the Kazakhs are so worried about the injustice beyond 5000 km from their home, they should be even more concerned about the injustice that happens in their home. And here the most interesting thing happens. At first they told me that the 1986 pogroms "did not exist." But this is ridiculous, the Internet is full of links and evidence. Now they say that there is no persecution of Russians in Kazakhstan. However, only slightly digging this topic, it turns out that there is more than just persecution, we are talking about the real forced transfer of the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan.
                2. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 19: 50 New
                  +3
                  There is no need to go far for evidence. This has already been written on this resource:


                  Quote: s30461
                  My friend, there is a big difference: to get under the distribution simply by meeting scumbags or being killed because you are Russian (or German, or Mordvin). I bring facts from the life of my family and our friends from 1990 to 1995.
                  1. We left after we cut out the family of our neighbors and came to us, but we fought back. The police did not accept the statement, but when we saw what these monsters did to the Kim family, we moved to the relatives the same day. After 3 days, the director of the furniture factory MEREY hosted in the neighboring and our house. Check who currently lives at: Alma-Ata, st. Kazakpaev d.77. This is 1992. May.
                  2. My uncle Alexander Fedorovich Golikov and his family. He worked as the head of the research group of the Alma-Ata Anti-Plague Institute. Nailed to a workbench with slate nails and burned alive by a blowtorch in his garage. Here, his wife and daughter were raped and killed. Father-in-law died here from a broken heart. No mother-in-law remains found. A few days earlier, Kazakhs came to him and offered to change the house for a Biryusa refrigerator. Who do you think occupied his house? That's right, Kazakhs. In hot pursuit, 4 people were detained, everyone was released without even having received a suspended sentence, although there were 3 witnesses who identified them and fingerprints on the doors and a blowtorch. This is 1995.
                  3. A friend of my older brother is Eugene Ichthios (German). He died with his family. According to investigators, he killed everyone (his wife, 2 children and his mother) in a state of alcoholic psychosis. Then he hanged himself. When I saw his corpse and the stool with which he allegedly jumped, the conclusion was obvious: to reach the loop he needed another such stool. In addition, the hands below the wrist were black with traces of a rope that cut into the skin to the blood. The dog (St. Bernard) was shot from a pistol. But for the investigation, these are not arguments. Two weeks later, new owners entered the house - the Kazakhs. This is 1991. Address: Almaty, st. Kazakpayev d. 62. Check.
                  3. Shipilov Anatoly Veniaminovich - Honored Artist of the Kazakh SSR. One of the developers of ornaments and national style for the Kazakh people. Killed with his wife in June 1993. The house is populated in a month. The criminal case was lost. The daughter tried to get the investigation to continue, but to no avail.
                  4. Bannikov Dmitry Vladimirovich. The dispatcher of the airport of Almaty. Killed 100 meters from the house. Scalped, scorched eyes. Two Kazakhs came right to the funeral of their parents and warned that if they did not voluntarily leave the house during the day, their daughter would be next. This is 1995. Alma-Ata, st. Tashkent d.23.
                  5. Velikhova Alena Alexandrovna. 21 years old. Beauty and smart. Grew with her grandmother - parents died. Found in a grove near City Hospital No. 7. She was raped and tied to pipes of a heating main, died from thermal burns and pain shock. At the time of death, she was pregnant at 9 months. 3 people were detained - two Kazakhs and a Uighur. Sentenced to suspended sentences and released in the courtroom. Grandmother went crazy after the death of her granddaughter. In less than 40 days, the Kazakhs settled in the house. This is 1991. Alma-Ata, st. Quiet d.6


                  The responses of proud nomads are also characteristic. Unable to bring arguments, personal insults and threats of KAZAKH criminal prosecution begin. I just froze in my veins from a similar threat. After all, there is no worse threat in Israel than the Kazakh police. I still hope that you, Messrs. Kazakhs, will return to the mortal land and begin to evaluate reality adequately.
                  1. Alibekulu
                    Alibekulu 11 December 2014 10: 09 New
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                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    There is no need to go far for evidence. This has already been written on this resource:
                    I suggested that the opponent cite serious sources as a justification for his point of view. But, as you can see, I can’t wait for anything except the havnosbros from the Internet dumps.
                    To you near shahid, I would advise you to watch the film “Present to Stalin” about the difficult fate of the little Jewish boy Sabyr (Sasha), who in Kazakhstan ends up in 1949. The main character - a Jewish orphan boy Sasha (Sabyr) - travels with his grandfather to Kazakhstan in a carriage for deportees. On the way, grandfather dies, and the baby himself never for a minute ceases to think about the arrested parents. He does not suspect that they are no longer alive. Upon arrival in a remote Kazakh village, Sasha is saved from death by a lineman, Kasim, who replaces his dead parents. In this aul, Sasha finds family and friends. Now he calls Kasym- “ata”, which means “grandfather”, begins to speak Kazakh, sings Kazakh songs. The shaman, who performed the rite of returning the boy to life, gave him a middle name - Sabyr (Kaz. Patient). After many years, approximately at the present time, having made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, he makes another “pilgrimage”, to another holy place for him — to that very village (more precisely, to the place where that village stood, since after the nuclear the explosion, neither from him nor from its inhabitants, there was practically nothing left but memorial plates on the graves), which forever remained in his memory. The role of the elderly Sasha was played by the Israeli writer David Markish, whose memories formed the basis of the film. The film received the Grand Prix of the first international film festival “East & West. Classic and Vanguard ”, opened the 13th Busan Film Festival in Korea, and a draft version of this film was shown at the Berlin and Cannes film festivals. “We chose this film because it is very unusual: there is a terrific, humane story, and a great play of actors, and steppe romance. Our viewers are not familiar with Kazakhstan cinema. This is what attracted us, ”commented Kim Dong Ho, director general of the festival.
                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    Unable to bring arguments, personal insults and threats of KAZAKH criminal prosecution begin.
                    Do not misinterpret, it was proposed to decide in the legal field. That the relevant structures would check the given information, and the perpetrators, if any, have suffered well-deserved punishment. If the lie, which is most likely, then he had to answer for slander and inciting ethnic hatred.
                3. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 19: 51 New
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                  Finally, I want to say goodbye to you with the words of the same Russian guy whose family you kicked out and, in addition, was cheated on the same resource:

                  Quote: s30461
                  I wish you to survive all that we experienced when the Kazakhs staged the Russian genocide. We don’t need more than we got, just to return to you all the grief that you brought to us in gratitude for saving the Kazakhs from total extermination by the Dzungars, Uzbeks and Chinese. Although you even died out from syphilis and bloody brawls without them, it’s not bad.
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            2. Alibekulu
              Alibekulu 11 December 2014 09: 00 New
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              Your sparkling mind is simply amazing.
              Compared to yours, sickly - yes yes
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              Naturally, I made your comment so that everyone would appreciate your love for the Russians.
              With the analysis of what you read, you also have problems. I wrote that the Russians left on their own and, accordingly, even potentially could not squeeze someone out because they emigrated themselves ..
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              Taken from here:
              I wrote that1. I expect from you references to serious sources. (C) Shaheed fool
              Relying on Wikipedia as a serious source is a very bad idea .. negative
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              quote: “People fled from Kazakhstan, threw hectares of land on 100-200”
              If you knew how many Kazakhs, threw land and more 200 hectares. In the 90's as one of the outcomes of the collapse of the USSR and the subsequent collapse of the ek-aul, it was destroyed, and the Kazakhs, like the Russians, fled to cities from despair. Yes, by the way, and in Russia in 90 they threw the land en masse .. And then what conclusions should be drawn. And by the way, in the above article, more is said about the attitude towards "refugees" in the Russian Federation.
              There is complete lawlessness. "
              Yes, they won’t come up with what would remain in the “decaying West” .. A typical story in the style of the “crucified boy in Slavyansk” ..
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              Now they say that there is no persecution of Russians in the Republic of Kazakhstan. However, only slightly digging this topic, it turns out that there is not just persecution, it is a question of the real forced transfer of the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan.
              Well, if you follow your idiotic logic, then the relocation of approximately one and a half million Jews from the Russian Federation can be considered as a forced transfer to Israel ?! So, and consider your move to Gaza as a result of coercion and squeezing ?! repeat
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              But this is ridiculous, the Internet is full of links and evidence.
              The nude, as it were, is ridiculous and childishly ridiculous, the attempt itself to appeal to the Internet. Which is teeming with references and "testimonies" of the worldwide Jewish Massasson conspiracy, the "Protocols of the Zion of the Wise" and the Zhidobanderites bully And these references and "testimonies" are millions of times more than information about "squeezing out Russians in K-no" .. yes
              1. Alibekulu
                Alibekulu 11 December 2014 11: 24 New
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                Shaheed, during the marked period of the legendary "era of Russian persecution in Kazakhstan", writers of Jewish nationality Maurice Semashko and Yuri Gert lived in Kazakhstan.
                Simashko (real name Shamis), author of numerous works. Simashko's works have been translated into more than 40 languages. People's writer of K-on. According to his story “Gu-ga”, the film about penalty companies was filmed, very popular in the beginning of the 90's. Laureate of the Kazakhstan Presidential Peace and Spiritual Concord Prize. Laureate of the literary prize named after Abay 1986 of the year for the translation into Russian of the trilogy of I. Yesenberlin “Nomads”. Nominated by Kazakhstan for the Nobel Prize in literature. M. Simashko: "Considering this to a large extent as fantasy, I didn’t give consent for a year 3. I agreed only because it was indicative in itself. If a Turkic, Muslim country nominates today for the highest award of a Russian Jewish writer, a potential a citizen of Israel (everyone knew about my departure), that means, in spite of everything, something radically changes in the world. "
                Yuri Mikh. Geert is a writer and journalist. Subsequently, becoming a well-known writer in K-not, he worked in the literary and art magazine "Prostor". Geert is the author of The Who, If Not You ?, Night of Predestination.
                I should think of bringing 2 cases from the life of writers as a litmus test characterizing them as personalities:
                I. Maurice Simashko, not far from his death, wrote an open letter to the Nobel Prize laureate Ross. physicist Zhores Alferov (Premonition of a pogrom), where he expressed concern about the growth of anti-Semitism in Russia.
                II. In 1987, with perestroika, a powerful upsurge of nationalist and anti-Semitic sentiments was everywhere observed, and Marina Tsvetaeva's essay Volniy Proezd was sent to the magazine. Although U. Gert was the editor-in-chief of the prose department and a member of the editorial board, he was the last to know about this essay after all the other editorial staff read and approved it. The essay described how, in September, the hungry 1918 Tsvetaeva went for groceries to the Tula province and stopped in the house where the food detachment commander lived, “a Jew with a bar of gold around his neck”. An exorbitant passion for gold was also full of his wife, of course, also a Jew. The “Oprichniki”, that is, the food detachments, robbed and squeezed every last drop from the suffering people. Moreover, the main thing in them is not that they were engaged in robbery and violence, but that most of them were Jews. Geert was well acquainted with the work of Marina Tsvetaeva, her tragic fate and a terrible ending. Reckless directness and a life full of suffering made it almost a saint in his eyes. Nevertheless, he was categorically against the publication of this essay, in which Jews, for the sake of widespread anti-Semitic stereotypes, again, for the umpteenth time, were portrayed as double-faced, predatory, and cruel destroyers of Russia. Y. Gert alone opposed the publication of the essay, patiently and persistently explaining his position to former friends and colleagues. However, no one supported him. When the editors, ignoring his opinion, decided to print, he left the magazine.
                From the above examples, it is clear that they are extraordinary individuals with a keen sense of justice and a clearly expressed civic position. Which they were ready to defend despite the consequences associated with this. But why did these, so respected writers and public figures, in no way react to, I quote - the forced transfer of the Russian-speaking population in Kazakhstan ?!
                By which, they are people of great and complex fate, could not pass by ?!
                request
              2. Smert Nik1
                Smert Nik1 11 December 2014 16: 04 New
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                Quote: Alibekulu
                Compared to yours, sickly - yes


                Where can I, an ordinary Jew, to the great nomadic thinker of all times and peoples. Note only that megalomania does not compensate for the lack of brain matter or lack of education. He dragged here the sheets of some Jewish-Kazakh writers. Why all this?
                I'm not going to get into your relationship with the Russians. You are trying hard to shift the discussion process to a personal skirmish. All this only proves the weakness of your argument and strengthens my thoughts that under your peppy relations about the friendship of peoples the ugly reality is hidden, which will be revealed when the Russians in Kazakhstan, like the Russians in Ukraine, rise uprising.
                The fact that you absolutely do not understand Middle East events is obvious to everyone. Even you, an Israeli, you call a martyr, because this is the only word from the Middle East vocabulary that you know, indirectly only emphasizing your "phenomenal" erudition. Apparently on this your knowledge about the Arab-Israeli conflict is limited.
                Based on the same inexhaustible pool of knowledge, for some reason you think that I live in Gaza. Apparently not suspecting that there are no Israelis in Gaza.
                Live calmly in your RK. Happiness, love and tranquility.
                1. Stypor23
                  Stypor23 11 December 2014 21: 06 New
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                  Quote: Smert Nik1
                  Apparently not suspecting that there are no Israelis in Gaza.

                  It's ridiculous. Surely Israeli spies are present in huge numbers. In general, every time after talking with the Israelis I have a lot of questions. Why do you think your government does not want to create a pro-Israeli political structure and ensure that it wins the election, and what head of the SG will be Abu, a la "Palestinian Kadyrov Jr."?
                  1. Smert Nik1
                    Smert Nik1 11 December 2014 22: 12 New
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                    Quote: Stypor23
                    It's ridiculous. Surely Israeli spies are present in huge numbers. In general, every time after talking with the Israelis I have a lot of questions. Why do you think your government does not want to create a pro-Israeli political structure and ensure that it wins the election, and what head of the SG will be Abu, a la "Palestinian Kadyrov Jr."?


                    Honestly, I was already thinking about it. This had to be done in 67, immediately after the war. But then there was euphoria and nobody wanted to do such a thing. And so far, Arab bitterness has reached such a level that the Palestinian leader who makes peace will fall victim to the Palestinians themselves. After all, the main problem of the conflict is not religion and not taken away lands. The main reason is the social structure. If the ordinary family of Israelis (as well as the Russians) is directly subordinate to the state, then the Palestinians are subordinate to their clan clans (Hamullahs). The heads of the clans are sheikhs and are real rulers in Palestine. What happens for example in Gaza. Hamas is supported by many sheikhs who have their percentage from smuggled tunnels on the border with Egypt (the owner of each tunnel has income from a good large supermarket). That is, the sheikhs and the heads of Hamas who have contended with them are really benefiting from the closed borders. Qatar transfers money to Hamas. This money must be worked out. As a result, missiles fly to Israeli cities. Israel naturally responds. Bomb Gaza. Oil prices have risen. Qatar repulsed the money invested in Hamas. Israel has experienced new types of weapons and is gaining the potential to sell them profitably. Only residents of Israeli cities are in the red, and the people of Gaza are not even in the red, but in the huge railway station. Hamas actually exposes them under Israeli bombs. If someone in Gaza does not like this order, they simply shoot him, as happened with the 20 participants in the anti-Hamas demonstration in this war. But how are they traitors - dare to protest against Hamas during the war. Here is such a simple arithmetic of war on the BV.
                    1. Stypor23
                      Stypor23 11 December 2014 22: 29 New
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                      In other words, the ruling elites of the opposing sides are interested in the conflict, but ordinary Gazatis and Israelis are not self-sufficient.
                      1. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 11 December 2014 22: 57 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        In other words, the ruling elites of the opposing sides are interested in the conflict, but ordinary Gazatis and Israelis are not self-sufficient.


                        Of course. It’s just that Israel takes better care of its citizens, build houses with bomb shelters, they’ve developed a dome. And indeed there are more freedoms. There are elections. If the government does not like it, you can change it. And at the palaces, as in the zone, everyone aches each other. Rich-poor, armed-unarmed, adult-teenagers, male-female. In general, life there is not sugar.
                      2. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 11 December 2014 23: 07 New
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                        It’s interesting if a certain official starts taking bribes to buy a three-story house, how long will it be closed.
                      3. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 11 December 2014 23: 28 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        It’s interesting if a certain official starts taking bribes to buy a three-story house, how long will it be closed.


                        I heard a story about how one girl who worked in the army at an army fuel base was able to steal tanks. For several years, she acquired a good real estate, burned out stupidly. After the trial, everyone was taken away and closed for eight years.
                      4. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 11 December 2014 23: 33 New
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                        An 11-year-old daughter will be very upset if they grab their dad by their gills. Nobody wants to move out of the cottage.
                      5. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 11 December 2014 23: 43 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        An 11-year-old daughter will be very upset if they grab their dad by their gills. Nobody wants to move out of the cottage.


                        He would take bribes, but no one offers them ..
                      6. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 11 December 2014 23: 46 New
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                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        An 11-year-old daughter will be very upset if they grab their dad by their gills. Nobody wants to move out of the cottage.


                        He would take bribes, but no one offers them ..

                        This does not happen. Most likely, my father’s office does not attract a massive number of wealthy potential bribe givers.
                      7. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 11 December 2014 23: 52 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        This does not happen. Most likely, my father’s office does not attract a massive number of wealthy potential bribe givers.

                        Clear
                      8. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 00: 01 New
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                        It’s sad for dad. And this is how you come to Russia, don’t try to prepare provocations against Russian Jews. And then we know how such things are done.
                      9. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 00: 07 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        It’s sad for dad. And this is how you come to Russia, don’t try to prepare provocations against Russian Jews. And then we know how such things are done.


                        Pity the wolf hare. You felt sorry for the Russian Jews. This is something new. In my opinion you will only be glad when you grew up. Jews will finally leave Russia and you will stop complaining that you have Jewish authority.
                      10. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 00: 12 New
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                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        It’s sad for dad. And this is how you come to Russia, don’t try to prepare provocations against Russian Jews. And then we know how such things are done.


                        Pity the wolf hare. You felt sorry for the Russian Jews. This is something new. In my opinion you will only be glad when you grew up. Jews will finally leave Russia and you will stop complaining that you have Jewish authority.

                        I am a humanist. I don’t remember talking and complaining about Jewish power in the Russian Federation
                        You are not given to know what can make me happy
                      11. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 00: 15 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        I am a humanist. I don’t remember talking about Jewish power in the Russian Federation


                        And you remember all the little things about me. We once had a conversation on this subject. Do you consider modern power in Russia Jewish or Russian?
                      12. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 00: 21 New
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                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Do you remember all the little things about me?

                        Not only about you. Although I think the Israeli contingent and the humpbacked have put a lot about themselves.
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        We once had a conversation on this subject.

                        I remember. I have such a job to remember everything. It is good to remember the inalienable and obligatory feature of my profession.
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Do you consider modern power in Russia Jewish or Russian?

                        Pro-Jewish. Especially the goat-bearded rabbi noticed this.
                      13. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 00: 24 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Pro-Jewish. Especially goatbeard noticed it.

                        here you see. and there will be no Jews in Russia and you will have your own, native Russian power, which will cherish and cherish you.
                      14. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 00: 27 New
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                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Pro-Jewish. Especially goatbeard noticed it.

                        here you see. and there will be no Jews in Russia and you will have your own, native Russian power, which will cherish and cherish you.

                        But somehow they do not crave ALL to leave.
                      15. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 00: 29 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        But somehow they do not crave ALL to leave.

                        Do what you want.
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                      17. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 00: 49 New
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                        Well, you see, he became nervous. Not good. You were not taught at your work that only a cold mind and a calm attitude to business provide success?
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                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 07: 32 New
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                        It really started to get nervous. I’m already used to your peculiar way of talking. What you are trying to achieve will not benefit our countries. I once read about a Jew who purposely provoked people into anti-Semitic manifestations. It so happened that the Jews themselves punished him properly. It seems that it was in the 5th decade of the 20th century.
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                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 07: 53 New
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                        Well then, do not complain about the Jews. Live as you live.
                      20. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 07: 54 New
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                        Why don’t you bring me in an emergency?
                        As always you will not answer
                      21. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 09: 41 New
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                        Why should I put you in an emergency? Just because you don’t like Jews? So then it is necessary to bring 95% of Russians in emergency situations. I'm interested in your psychology, a mixture of imperial mentality and nationalism. It is interesting to watch how you solve the contradictions between these two worldviews.
                      22. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 12: 13 New
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                        Nationalism prevails even more. You will not regret anyone for your purpose, in particular the Jews.

                        I noticed that I had 8 violations. What suddenly novels he wrote out. It was as if someone had asked. He does his job poorly, because he misses a lot of things, and finds fault with the little things.
                      23. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 12: 32 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Nationalism prevails even more. You will not regret anyone for your purpose, in particular the Jews.

                        On the contrary, my position is dictated by the care of them. The Jews of Russia have a masochistic worldview, they must be taken out before the next revolution has struck.
                        P.S. about the warnings, I'm not in the know. Probably again the tricks of the Mossad. I'll go to the authorities in an interest.
                      24. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 12: 35 New
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                        On the contrary, my position is dictated by the care of them. The Jews of Russia have a masochistic worldview, they must be taken out before the next revolution has struck.

                        You are cunning. Your like-minded people will prefer to blow up the synagogue. Hysteria needs to be provoked somehow + excellent maza to whip up hatred of Russians and Russians in general.
                      25. Neksel
                        Neksel 12 December 2014 12: 37 New
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                        Valera, you got the wrong foot today? something does not recognize you.
                      26. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 12 December 2014 12: 45 New
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                        Alexander, I got up from that foot. Here your brother tirelessly repeats that I do not like Jews. I asked him why I shouldn’t love you, a suicide bomber, he never said why. He for some reason is sure that I will go in the front rows to build gas chambers.
                    2. Smert Nik1
                      Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 12: 50 New
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                      Quote: Stypor23
                      You are cunning. Your like-minded people will prefer to blow up the synagogue. Hysteria needs to be provoked somehow + excellent maza to whip up hatred of Russians and Russians in general.

                      It’s not a synagogue. The fact is that the Russians have not decided whether they need Jews or not. Answer honestly - do you want the Jews to live in Russia?
                    3. Stypor23
                      Stypor23 12 December 2014 12: 53 New
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                      It is strange why the Russians cannot figure out whether they need Jews or not.
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                      Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 13: 19 New
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                      Quote: Stypor23
                      It is strange why the Russians cannot figure out whether they need Jews or not.


                      Yes, because on the one hand you consider them to be inferior and disloyal citizens of your country, and on the other hand you do not agree that they would leave you.
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                      Stypor23 12 December 2014 14: 16 New
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                      This is all because of the image.
                      But nobody offends Jews in Russia
                    6. Smert Nik1
                      Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 14: 29 New
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                      Quote: Stypor23
                      This is all because of the image.
                      But nobody offends Jews in Russia

                      Well, what does it mean does not offend? Yes, there are no Jewish pogroms, many Jews hold good positions, live well. But you, Russians, perceive them exclusively through the prism of their nationality, explaining all their positive and negative qualities exclusively to their nationality. By this you inadvertently emphasize that you are separate and Jews separate. That is, in your thoughts you live in separate worlds, it remains only to realize your desires in real life.
                    7. Stypor23
                      Stypor23 12 December 2014 15: 10 New
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                      If you need it, come and persuade them to sail back to the historical one, and I'll see what they tell you.
                    8. Smert Nik1
                      Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 15: 20 New
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                      Quote: Stypor23
                      If you need it, come and persuade them to sail back to the historical one, and I'll see what they tell you.


                      Okay, I'll think about your proposal.
                    9. Stypor23
                      Stypor23 12 December 2014 15: 52 New
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                      Well, here are the goodies. Only you don’t have to kill any of your brothers. And then you never know what a cool guy would think.
                    10. Smert Nik1
                      Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 16: 02 New
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                      Persuaded. All the best. Good weekend.
                    11. Stypor23
                      Stypor23 12 December 2014 18: 14 New
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                      Che for lawlessness. Do not leave me.
                      Thank you. And you, too, all the very best. Only for a long time do not disappear.
  • Alibekulu
    Alibekulu 12 December 2014 11: 30 New
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    Where can I, an ordinary Jew
    Judging by your mental efforts, there is a suspicion that you are Jewish at all. So many of your comments are contrasted with the messages of Atalef, the Professor and the Warriors. Some "non-kosher" Jew was caught ..
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    to the great nomadic thinker of all time.
    So sho, we still wanted to say this ?! laughingI didn’t position myself or put myself this way ..
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    Note that megalomania does not compensate for the lack of brain matter or lack of education.
    Well, what am I writing to you about request .
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    I'm not going to get into your relationship with the Russians.
    And with what ... did you start all this ?!
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    You are trying hard to shift the discussion process to a personal skirmish.
    Is it not you who moved the discussion process, in no way connected with Kazakhstan, to the events of 1986 of the year and the “forced transfer of Russian speakers” ?! fool
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    All this only proves the weakness of your argument.
    It says the one who leads Wikipedia as a serious source ?!
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    like the Russians in Ukraine, they will rise uprising.
    This question can be procrastinated for a long time and persistently. They will raise it, then we'll see and talk. Personally, I am ready for any development of the situation.
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    only emphasizing his "phenomenal" erudition.
    Your comments about the events in the Republic of Kazakhstan, just emphasize yours ..
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    Apparently on this your knowledge about the Arab-Israeli conflict is limited.
    I am not at all interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and unlike you, I did not confuse him in our dialogue. I, commented exclusively on Kazakhstan, about the situation in which, unlike you living in Israel, I have an idea ..
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    you think that I live in Gaza. Apparently not suspecting that there are no Israelis in Gaza.
    I don’t care who, with whom and why lives in Gaza and whether there are Israelis there or not ..
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    Live calmly in your RK. Happiness, love and tranquility.
    The same to you. You seem to have already said goodbye to the words you were kicked out and deceived ..
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 12 December 2014 13: 13 New
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      Quote: Alibekulu
      And with what ... did you start all this ?!

      Quote: Alibekulu
      I am not at all interested in the Arab-Israeli conflict, and unlike you, I did not confuse him in our dialogue.


      Your fellow countryman from Kazakhstan started in the topic about Syria. Check if you don’t remember. To which he was told that since he was so worried about the injustice towards the Arabs who live beyond 5000 km, why he did not care about the injustice towards the Russians in his own country. At this stage you arose and began to convince everyone that I invent everything. It’s your business, you can not believe me or the testimonies on the Internet. By the way, I brought evidence not only from the wiki (which I am sure you trust in all other cases), one of the evidence that I brought is taken from the site of the Swedish state. organization that issues ausweis to watered. shelter. There, before giving it out, the whole story is very well checked. At the bottom of the document there is a note that the applicants received the status of political refugees. And this is a serious argument in veracity. You are not at all confused by the stories of Russians on this resource about the persecution in your country, besides the story that I quoted, Alexander wrote his story with the nickname Ryazan Airborne Forces, it is located below on the page. Read it. In any case, you kindly fit in with kindness for your fellow countryman, who entered into a conversation, not quite owning the topic. Now your friend is safely silent. Frankly speaking, he set you up and leaked purely in English. You are not interested in the topic of the Israeli-Arab conflict; your country is not of much interest to me either. Engaging with you flame is not interesting. So, what I have already written to you, dear, all the best, the conversation with you has been exhausted due to pointlessness.
      1. Alibekulu
        Alibekulu 12 December 2014 18: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        Your fellow countryman began in a topic about Syria
        So what did you start about the pogroms of 1986 and the "oppression" of Russians. You were asked not to look at the problem one-sidedly and disassemble from different angles. Including Kazakh
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        By the way, I brought evidence not only from the wiki (which I am sure you trust in all other cases)
        About Kazakhstan and Kazakhs, there is a lot of nonsense ..
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        You are not at all embarrassed by the Russian stories on this resource about the persecution in your countries.
        Well, then why are you not confused by the stories of the Kazakhs, who were directly confronted with the manifestations of Great Russian chauvinism. Which in no small measure contributed to the events of 1986 of the year ?! Tell how the Kazakhs were “persecuted” ?! Honor, there are a lot of them in the topics in Kazakhstan. Where you read about the "persecution of Russians" there are many of them. Especially for you I can bring them ..
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        In any case, you kindly fit in with kindness for your fellow countryman, who entered into a conversation, not quite owning the topic.
        I don’t know if it was thoughtlessness, spiritual kindness, but you mentioned Kazakhstan, not at all owning the topic ..
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        There, before giving it out, the whole story is very well checked.
        A country such as Austria granted political asylum to Nazarbayev’s son-in-law, Rakhat Aliyev (our prince Joffrey). Although this is the same as declaring a rhino a white rabbit. In the 90's there was a topic, the Uyghurs were handed out in large numbers. Many from the RK also wrote in the request similar “stories” in the Kazakh style on horseback with whips in the center of Almaty they raped .. angry Later, when they sorted it out, they finally covered the shop ..
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        Engaging with you flame is not interesting.
        Don’t get involved who asks you ..
        Quote: Smert Nik1
        So, what I have already written to you, dear, all the best, the conversation with you has been exhausted due to pointlessness.
        As if the pointlessness on your part. Yeah, but I thought instead of links from ridiculous sites, you will bring the stories of those who "escaped from Kazakhstan" and, well, your friend from Petropavlovsk.
        I have a friend, a Jew, it’s like, within a year I think we’ll meet, I’ll take 0,5 and I hope we’ll talk about what’s “oppressing” there ..
        P.S. Regarding the forced transfer, you probably saw the cartoon "American History" (1986). You can watch from 5 minutes ..
  • Talgat
    Talgat 10 December 2014 18: 32 New
    +1
    It also seemed to me that Leontyev, unfortunately, either did not get enough sleep or did not eat
    Maybe he should work in the monologue genre?
  • massad1
    massad1 10 December 2014 11: 57 New
    +2
    zhurnalyuga is an impenetrable cast-iron forehead, a terry classic representative of world Zionism, living in a parallel "democratic" universe. When I listen to such people, it becomes clear to me a lot, for example, where the wind blows about their official versions of what is happening. You know, I noticed that for them the most important thing is to convince yourself of your own unshakable, sorry unshakable, right. Pay attention - he doesn’t take an interview, he actually talks to himself, interrupting Leontiev endlessly. It has memorized control questions as an idol, and itself answers them with control answers. Misha still very softly and politely avoided continuing to listen to this meaningless monologue. I don’t know, right now on emotions, something he infuriated me, I would have told him about the nuclear threat, something like this
  • sgazeev
    sgazeev 10 December 2014 12: 39 New
    +2
    I would have sent it in three letters. Ushlepok grabbed shit from the media Khokhlopov. Geytsev. I would have come to the place, looked and ........ lol
  • pavel_SPB
    pavel_SPB 10 December 2014 12: 52 New
    +2
    Dmitry Dubov is somehow strange or something ... to say the least.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 10 December 2014 13: 23 New
    +3
    But the zhurnalyuga turned out to be tricky! smile

    Other than blaming Russia for "aggression" for nothing. Let me try to answer his questions.

    Dmitry Dubov: Mikhail Vladimirovich, hello. Do you think that the current intensity of international passions has ripened to a real threat of nuclear war?
    - Hello, And you do not get sick! You smoke less and stop watching movies about Hiroshima, and delirium tremens are not far away. winked
    Dmitry Dubov: Nobody talks about peace and chewing gum amid the nuclear threat and Russia's aggressive policy in the post-Soviet space. So maybe leave the neighbors alone?
    - As for the nuclear threat and aggressive politics, First of all, no one is threatening, have you heard someone officially say that Russia is threatening if such and such ?! No? then they closed the question, now secondly, excuse me, is it an aggressive policy to demand gas payments from Ukraine? Are you out of your mind? You will not argue that the supplier of heat or electricity or water supply behaves aggressively if it disconnects you for non-payment ?! Do not carry nonsense! Can you talk about Crimea? Oh my God, I beg you, stop being a hypocrite, we turned a blind eye when the United States bombed Iraq without permission from the UN and Libya with permission, although what the hell is the difference if the United States acts ?! hi
    Dmitry Dubov: Who? Who attacked you?
    - If you mean an invasion by troops, then no one, but if economically, then the United States and the European Union attacked when they imposed sanctions, what if this is not an attack? You hope you will not deny the fact of economic pressure on Russia calculated to weaken the country in order to change the political course or even a change of power ?! The United States did something similar when it provoked a Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. I appreciate your hypocrisy. bully
    Dmitry Dubov: Well, thank you for appreciating, of course, but let's answer the question once again - who attacked Russia, who crossed the border of the Russian Federation?
    - About 500 refugees crossed over the border from Ukraine, whom Russia accepted without checking for the presence of terrorist elements, from a country supposedly hostile to you, in your words. Can you imagine that Germany, in the 000th invading Poland and Czechoslovakia, began to receive refugees from these countries, feeds, gives an overnight stay, arranges for work? And Russia behaves differently, is it strange, right? I tell you again, Russia is not at war with the Ukrainian people, but with those who are in power. soldier
    Dmitry Dubov: Wait! I tell you about one thing, and you tell me about another. Nationalists did not go to the parliament of Ukraine.
    - So why are tads ban Russian? and in kindergartens they force children to renounce the Russian name bestowed at baptism, look at this fool Farion, at her utterances. what does she carry ?! And whose money is supplied to the troops ironing Donetsk and Lugansk with shells and missiles? Aren't the Jews oligarchs al? repeat

    continued ...
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 10 December 2014 13: 25 New
    +3
    continued ...

    Dmitry Dubov: The Speaker of the Parliament is Groysman, a Jew by nationality.
    - so here I am about the same. (I’ll leave a remark by Mikhail Leontyev): Yes, there is Kolomoisky, you watch his videos, where he offered ten thousand for my head, right? Look, here is Kolomoisky - the shame of the Jewish people. Look at this nits! fool
    Dmitry Dubov: So, you know, let's still observe the elementary limits of decency.
    tell this to the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who are not shy about raping even the old women, but I am silent about schoolgirls. angry
    Dmitry Dubov: Listen, an investigation is underway on the Boeing. Maybe it's the separatists?
    A wealthy person dies, not from old age, murder, only the eldest son has the right to inherit, so who will be suspected in the first place? And you tell me the janitor is to blame. Why the hell do separatists bring down an INTERNATIONAL flight? To incur all the anger of all NATO countries? to sanction them missile strike as in Libya? Do you think they are? And what else will the militias bring down? You apparently took seriously the story of how in Iraq a grandfather shot a APACH helicopter from a gun. Rjunimagu. laughing This is propaganda. wink
    Dmitry Dubov: Propaganda is when Russian channels invent a story about a crucified boy, sorry.
    And "tens of thousands of Russian troops killed during battles in the east of Ukraine," is that what? According to us, ukromi should already run out of manpower of military personnel, should already collect a new appeal laughing , but what Psaki says must be trusted too? You see, not only can we make mistakes in judgments. smile
    Dmitry Dubov: But there are cadres, there are cadres as separatists from residential areas are firing ...
    Well, you’re a cynic, he’s protecting his house. I don’t want to call you a nerd. What do you want? so that the militia goes out into the open field like Peresvet against Chelubey ?! laughing In general, militias fight face to face, not hiding as the APU.
    Dmitry Dubov: I ask once again - there are shots that show you, we are now directly showing them, missiles are launched from the installation, which is located behind the residential building, shelling of the Donetsk airport is underway.
    Again Mikhail Leontiev: There is a battle going on, well, and what's new? Civil War.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 10 December 2014 13: 25 New
    +1
    continued ...

    Dmitry Dubov: Well, then, as a result of return fire, residents die ...
    This is an excuse APU. People die from direct hit by artillery shells in residential buildings, whether militias are there or not. For example, at the beginning of the war, when the aircraft of the Armed Forces of Ukraine delivered strikes, there were no militias at all. APU commanders need to give their report to their pier. shells fly, we fight, they cut the forest you know. But tell me the rape of Donetsk girls is also a return fire, an aggressive attack on the consciousness of the APU soldiers by wearing mini skirts with high heels and stockings with a slender gait?
    Dmitry Dubov: Not at all funny. Aggressive politics is when they threaten with nuclear weapons. And direct aggression is the war in Georgia.
    - Yes, you already fucked for the same thing! angry No one is threatening! As for Georgia, let it be known to you that Ossetia and Abkhazia never belonged to Georgia, Georgia itself has become independent not so long ago, you know from whom. I doubt that under the Turks or Persians they would be able to gain independence. The Armenian Genocide is an example to you. Moreover, there was an attack on peacekeepers.
    Dmitry Dubov: The peacekeepers did not have a mandate to fight. Russia has introduced a regular army, and here peacekeepers? When there was an operation in Chechnya, not a single state rushed to save the Chechens ...
    And why on earth would they intervene? Did we intervene when the British fought over the Falkland Islands? or when did the Americans take their hands on panama? now their troops are illegitimate in Afghanistan. Same! Chechnya is Russia, it is our territory, it has always been and will be. How much Russian blood was shed in Russian-Turkish, and Perso-Russian as well as in the Second World War. You don’t understand, you didn’t protect these lands, not your grandfathers.

    That's all. Further the topic of another discussion.
    But in short, my opinion is that the last Jewish state was, according to history, back in the 7th century BC, then it reappeared after the end of World War II. This can be considered fair given that the Jewish people lived here from time immemorial. But in my opinion it is unfair that from the moment of its creation, Israel has only done what has got involved in military conflicts with neighboring Arab states and expanded its territory. This journalist is unlikely to dispute this. Even if it is hypothetically accepted that the Arabs are to blame, you can’t trample on the facts, Israel has expanded, and if it succeeds in destroying Palestine and then tackling the Jordan, then the territory will increase again. Compared with this expansion, the “annexation” of Crimea is in no way comparable. Crimea was part of Russia as long as the young country of Israel had not yet lived.
    1. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 10 December 2014 18: 36 New
      +2
      No need to compare post-war Israel and today's.
      They have been under the Americans for too long and have completely adopted their ideology.
      They now have only benefits. Who would have thought a few years ago that the ISRAELISTS !! will share the Fascists !! on the good and the bad! And to bomb the "bad" terrorists in the territory of a foreign sovereign state and feed the good. This state is more hostile to Russia than ever, but it is sad to be aware of this.
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  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 10 December 2014 06: 17 New
    +9
    Oaks reminds us with our rhetoric of our liberals ... though ... they are basically a single berry field. request
    1. ya.seliwerstov2013
      ya.seliwerstov2013 10 December 2014 06: 54 New
      +6
      Our Russian liberal is, first and foremost, a lackey and is just looking at how to clean his boots for someone!
    2. aksakal
      aksakal 10 December 2014 07: 25 New
      11
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      Oaks reminds us with our rhetoric of our liberals ... although ... they are basically a single berry field

      - No, Oaks reports in almost direct text - what is possible for Israel is not for Russia. "The peacekeepers did not have a mandate to fight. Russia has introduced a regular army, and what about peacekeepers? When there was an operation in Chechnya, not a single state rushed to save the Chechens ...

      Mikhail Leontiev: Listen, well, you are telling me. When Israel enters the army in Lebanon, for any reason? ”- Leontiev’s frank failure. Firstly, the peacekeepers didn’t fight, they really distort the oaks here, they absolutely killed oak in accordance with their surname, and they were killed THEM, and the regular army was introduced by Russia precisely for protection Peacekeepers are introduced to ensure that they are not killed, they simply interfere with the presence of hostilities, and if they begin to kill them, the country that introduced the peacekeepers has the right to protect them by all means available! Therefore, there are few peacekeepers , and armed with small arms, but they are protected by the state that sent them to carry out the peacekeeping mission. This is the first. Second - if Dubov says that Kolomoisky and Groysman are Jews, and in context makes a message that they are worthy sons of their people, because if it were a shame for such "Jews", their oaks would even be ashamed to mention, then let the Israeli forum users not get offended henceforth on harsh posts against Israel, for by the principle of “tell me who the friend is, and I will say who you are!” we can already draw conclusions about what kind of state Israel is, and what their goals are, and what are the methods for achieving these goals. Let's try - Kolomoisky is suspected of organizing an action to burn people in the House of Trade Unions in Odessa, of organizing a provocative air attack on civilians in Lugansk (remember the girl in red with her legs torn off?), Kolomoisky finances a number of frankly Nazi battalions. The list goes on, but this is more than enough. Now Israel - in the person of Dubov, he frankly does not distance himself from the bandit Kolomoisky, but on the contrary, with the help of Kolomoisky also tries to whitewash the frankly Nazi regime in Ukraine. So draw conclusions about Israel (after friendship with the Beni, I will write only with a small letter! That's it!). They are completely in sight. And Leoniev’s interview was frankly failed. It’s clear that Leontiev speaks well when he prepared the program, and when it was so unexpected, when they were forced to improvise, he pumped up and gave the wrong arguments, I think that the peacekeepers needed to answer exactly as I gave in the post, but the input and output of troops to Lebanon there only later as an illustrative example. Nevertheless, Leontiev deserves respect at least for his consistent patriotic position.
      1. andj61
        andj61 10 December 2014 10: 06 New
        +5
        aksakal (3) KZ Today, 07:25 ↑

        I don’t agree with everything, especially Israel, with a small letter, but your post is better than Leontiev’s interview! Plus with pleasure! hi
        PS A joke with a beard about a small letter. Dictation. The teacher:
        - In the dictation there was a sentence: "The crocodile climbed on pebbles."
        Everyone wrote the word "pebbles" with a capital letter. And only Vovochka - what a fine fellow! - with a little one. Little Johnny, explain to everyone why you wrote this word with a small letter?
        - But I don’t think pebbles after a crocodile for a person!
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 10 December 2014 10: 49 New
        +6
        Quote: aksakal
        Now Israel - in the person of Dubov, he frankly does not distance himself from the bandit Kolomoisky

        You simply must know that any Jew is obliged to defend a Jew whom they are trying to accuse of at least some kind of sin. Examples of this darkness. Over the past 25 years, how many Jewish thieves hid in Israel, having received his citizenship?
        If our “brothers” from Israel appear here soon, I will not escape the minuses and accusations of anti-Semitism for these words. Although, I did not say anything against Israel as a whole.
        1. Gans1234
          Gans1234 11 December 2014 10: 19 New
          0
          Damn, the Jewish question ...
          I respect Israel, and as a state, both the people and the army, I do not consider myself an anti-Semite ...
          But I am deeply convinced that there is no place for Jews in Russian politics - well, this at least spoils the attitude towards Jews among the people and gives only an impetus to anti-Semitism
  • Finches
    Finches 10 December 2014 06: 17 New
    +7
    Something Leontiev did not give a single intelligible argument, mumbled, for some reason making excuses ...? However!
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 10 December 2014 06: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Finches

      Something Leontiev did not give a single intelligible argument, mumbled, for some reason making excuses ...? However!

      Where is he there - FAITHFUL ?!
      Reviewing the video, and this time attentive.
      Mumbled ?! Not a fig yourself! If we had half the journalists so mumbled, it would be just great.
      1. just exp
        just exp 10 December 2014 08: 03 New
        +2
        he probably just like I did not watch the video, but read the text (in Israel, a translation of the text will be printed, not a video), and the text speaks more like an attempt to justify oneself, and not very skillful at that. There is more room for answers to trimmings and gutters. could be done so that the journalist would have to justify the west in his answers.
        1. Finches
          Finches 10 December 2014 08: 49 New
          +1
          Indeed, I didn’t look! And questions were provocative, nevertheless a journalist with such experience, almost an internationalist, could not bring more than one destructive fact or catch an opponent on contradictions ... I remember such a monster - Bovin, the program in the USSR was conducted by "International Panorama" , here I tried this jerk - Dubov, so provoke him!
          1. just exp
            just exp 10 December 2014 12: 16 New
            +1
            may not be in the mood.
          2. aksakal
            aksakal 10 December 2014 20: 55 New
            0
            Quote: Finches
            Indeed, I didn’t look! And questions were provocative, nevertheless a journalist with such experience, almost an internationalist, could not bring more than one destructive fact or catch an opponent on contradictions ... I remember such a monster - Bovin, the program in the USSR was conducted by "International Panorama" , here I tried this jerk - Dubov, so provoke him!

            - I recall an interview conducted by a Georgian journalist with Syrian President H. Assad, she also asked a question with such provocative implications, liberal journalists generally work clumsily, the provocation is just dumb, I don’t remember verbatim, something like "and that's when the people rose against you, it was difficult for you to give the order to shoot at your people? ", well, something like that, Assad politely smiled and as a schoolgirl explained with numbers that the people are for him, in percentage terms, and the one who was called the" risen people "is just terrorists and just as politely smiling, he substantiated this. Assad as a political scientist stronger than Leontyev? He is the President, politician and ruler, not a television journalist! But he worked there just brilliantly!
    2. just exp
      just exp 10 December 2014 08: 01 New
      +1
      He didn’t like his speech either, at the expense of Georgia he could stupidly besiege with the question "if Lebanon killed a couple of dozen Israeli peacekeepers, Israel would not respond with a military operation?"
      and about Bandera could ask, how does the magazine journalist feel that the killer of tens of thousands of Jews in Ukraine is a hero?
  • Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 10 December 2014 06: 21 New
    +9
    Sorry, but .... Muddy questions and no less muddy answers ... Maybe I'm wrong ... But the impression is this.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 10 December 2014 06: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Russian quilted jacket
      Sorry, but .... Muddy questions and no less muddy answers ... Maybe I'm wrong ... But the impression is this.

      The Jew tried to provoke, but nothing happened.
      1. Finches
        Finches 10 December 2014 08: 46 New
        +3
        Dmitry Dubov is a kosher Jew! laughing
  • rapid1934
    rapid1934 10 December 2014 06: 32 New
    +8
    Conversation of the blind with the deaf. request
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 10 December 2014 06: 49 New
      +1
      Very accurate definition!
      1. Dimy4
        Dimy4 10 December 2014 08: 47 New
        0
        Leontyev’s last phrase very accurately describes the whole conversation. And the point of the interview was not to convey our position to the Israeli audience, but once again put us in a puddle.
        1. STALGRAD76
          STALGRAD76 10 December 2014 09: 41 New
          +1
          I think from the side of the 9 channel a certain method of “crushing the interlocutor” was applied not with arguments but with usual cliches (if they asked me on the camera “why do I eat babies in the morning?” I would hang up or be bullshit) and not the host’s desire to have a conversation with Leontyev emotions ...
  • karal
    karal 10 December 2014 06: 37 New
    +8
    Mikhail did the right thing to cut off this rubbish of the Jewish journalist Dmitry Dubov!
  • saag
    saag 10 December 2014 06: 45 New
    -8
    Leontriev looks pale and speaks in cliches, fi. Nobody attacked the Russian Federation, and stay and think further that Ukrainians and Russians are one people is a pernicious error, now they are different nations.
    1. stoker
      stoker 10 December 2014 08: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: saag
      Leontyev looks pale and speaks in cliches ...


      LEONTIEV just looked like a normal person, respecting the work of a journalist. He stopped on the street, spent his time, tried to delve into this nonsense, establish a constructive dialogue. Finding out that in front of him miserable provocateurs, he spat and left. Natural human squeamishness. Well, a slight annoyance on yourself.
    2. just exp
      just exp 10 December 2014 08: 08 New
      +3
      Well, yes, then the supporters of the separation of Siberia from Russia and the creation of the Ural and Siberian republics will be rubbing us that from now on Omsk and Vologda residents are different peoples.
      I’ll tell you more, there is no Ukrainian nationality, there are maloros, and Ukrainians called Maloros who refused Orthodoxy in favor of Greek Catholicism.
      even Gogol had not ukranians but littlerussians. that is what “Ukrainians” were called for example in an English translation at the beginning of the 20th century. that is, in the English translations of his books at the beginning of the last century was Little Litrash and Little Litra, and there was no Ukraine and Ukrainians.
    3. mervino2007
      mervino2007 10 December 2014 11: 17 New
      +3
      saag (1) SU  "these are now different nations."

      In your view. In fact, this is one people, only in Ukraine it is crushed by the Bandera zapadents who rule, supported by the money of the states and the EU. The color revolution through the Maidan gave such results. The technology is proven.



  • Fox
    Fox 10 December 2014 06: 51 New
    +7
    like here on the forum: dialogue with the Jews ... even the questions and answers are the same.
    1. their
      their 10 December 2014 09: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Fox
      like here on the forum: dialogue with the Jews ... even the questions and answers are the same.


      Because this is the main line of the Goebbels propaganda of Israel. You still do not understand against whom Israel? In Chechnya, they gave birth to terrorists, in Georgia they unleashed genocide in Ossetia, in Ukraine they carried out a neo-Nazi coup d'état and civil war, oh yes the same goes for Syria (Russia's ally)
  • wanderer
    wanderer 10 December 2014 06: 56 New
    0
    I was surprised in one article that Leontiev spokeswoman for Rosnenfti (seen from the credits) ... honestly, I didn’t know.
    ===== type PR manager ??
    1. saag
      saag 10 December 2014 07: 05 New
      0
      Quote: wanderer
      I was surprised in one article that Leontiev was the press secretary of Rosnenfti

      Indeed, he left the first channel to Sechin
  • Intensive
    Intensive 10 December 2014 07: 02 New
    0
    entire gear - production
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 10 December 2014 12: 17 New
      0
      Quote: Intensive
      entire gear - production

      And not only this one! All TV shows - production, like movies, plays.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 December 2014 07: 07 New
    +1
    our relationship with the United States is not based on hydrocarbon trading, but doctrine of mutual guaranteed non-destruction.

    Americans in connection with their "exclusivity" have ceased to understand this. If a sick person thinks he is Napoleon, you cannot prove him the opposite. Need shock therapyI am.
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 10 December 2014 07: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Americans in connection with their "exclusivity" have ceased to understand this. If a sick person thinks he is Napoleon, you cannot prove him the opposite. Need shock therapy.

      Compulsory treatment can also help ...
    2. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 10 December 2014 12: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      If a sick person thinks he is Napoleon, you cannot prove him the opposite. Need shock therapy.

      Tested in the USA. Intravenously 750 milligrams of midazolam and hydromorphone.
  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 10 December 2014 07: 13 New
    +3
    An Israeli journalist could not understand why the fire is being fired because of apartment buildings?
    He did not wonder why there are houses in the besieged city? Or why are there houses in the city?
    Or does he think that Donetsk and Lugansk is a field with haystacks? Or maybe he is not aware that the Ukrainian troops came to these cities, and not the cities moved to the Ukrainian troops.

    Pity Leontiev, he spent so much time in vain. There was no need to do this. No need to make excuses, especially to representatives of similar media, countries of vassals.
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 10 December 2014 07: 19 New
    +2
    The whole point is that the chosen ones can defend their right to life by any means, but the gentiles do not. Well, as with the "good elves" bombing and murder, we bring you a "good democracy"
  • Masterzserg
    Masterzserg 10 December 2014 07: 21 New
    +2
    Chet was confused Leontyev!
    Israel for any reason? Georgia, like Lebanon, shelled Russia? You what?
    But we didn’t bring troops into Ukraine when ardent Russophobes fired on our territory for a month. And Syria also fired on the rest of Europe, for which they are hammering its territory? And in Georgia, our peacekeepers were killed! Well, and that there is no mandate, now they themselves should shoot themselves? They saved the guys and the local population.
    but let's answer the question again - who attacked Russia, who crossed the border of the Russian Federation?
    and where does it cross the border? Russians are being killed, ethnic cleansing is going on in Ukraine, Russian girls are being raped, and about a crucified boy, although I have not heard anything from the media, but I heard from people from Ukraine that they are killing children, cruelly.
  • tasha
    tasha 10 December 2014 07: 26 New
    +3
    I read Mr. Leontiev's answers and realized that speaking smart words from the screen and understanding them are completely different things, however. Is it possible that Mr. Leontyev is reading on the air, nothing is being put off in his head?
    Leontiev is not Lavrov ...
  • testerman
    testerman 10 December 2014 07: 28 New
    +2
    The point is that in these interviews it’s like pulling a cat by the balls before castrating. Everyone has long known that the West does not give a damn about all legal norms and there is only an obsession with taking possession of resources, land, water, which is available on the territory of the Russian Federation. Dialogs are useless in this case. It is necessary to build up military power and be prepared for a clash which is more than likely in connection with recent events.
    1. mervino2007
      mervino2007 10 December 2014 11: 27 New
      0
      testerman SU "Dialogs are useless in this case"

      We must use every opportunity to convey our point of view to other peoples. Yes, he is not Lavrov. Reading a piece of paper, however, is easier than preparing for a tough debate, standing up to all the arguments. You may not be a polemicist, but being able to state known facts and their assessment is unambiguous.
  • askort154
    askort154 10 December 2014 07: 31 New
    +5
    Israel accuses Russia of aggression? Of course, the United States and Israel are still victims of aggression from: Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. How difficult it is for them to live surrounded by aggressors.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 07: 47 New
      -6
      Quote: askort154
      Israel accuses Russia of aggression? Of course, the United States and Israel are still victims of aggression from: Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iran, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Palestine. How difficult it is for them to live surrounded by aggressors.


      This is where is Israel blaming Russia? Welcome the utterance Ministry of Foreign Affairs. But Russia has a very clear anti-Israeli position, hidden under the guise of neutrality.
      "On December 4, Nasrallah met with Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov."
      1. bmv04636
        bmv04636 10 December 2014 07: 55 New
        +4
        Can I ask you a quick question about the murderers and thieves escaping from Russia hiding in your territory ?.
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 08: 31 New
          -4
          Quote: bmv04636
          Can I ask you a quick question about the murderers and thieves escaping from Russia hiding in your territory ?.


          Can I ask you a question? Do your special services agree to discover all the secrets of training Palestinian terrorists? For example, why were members of the black October, after the terrorist attack in Munich, guarded by KGB officers? Did the Soviet leadership know about plans to capture a school with students in the city of Ma'alot?
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 10 December 2014 08: 54 New
            +5
            Here again, 25. Well, what kind of people. The person asked you a question, but you do not answer and ask your question next. negative
            1. their
              their 10 December 2014 09: 27 New
              +1
              These are paid propagandists, the pride of asbara (based on Goebbels notes). They don’t have causal relationships, as a rule, everything is tailored to bend the party’s line.
            2. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 09: 44 New
              -1
              Quote: Stypor23
              Here again, 25. Well, what kind of people. The person asked you a question, but you do not answer and ask your question next.


              The man received a "Jewish" answer, because in turn he answered "in Jewish". I asked where Israel accused Russia, may they quote utt. officials, and the man twisted everything and began to ask me questions about crime hiding in Israel.
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 10 December 2014 10: 06 New
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                Quote: Smert Nik1
                Quote: Stypor23
                Here again, 25. Well, what kind of people. The person asked you a question, but you do not answer and ask your question next.


                The man received a "Jewish" answer, because in turn he answered "in Jewish". I asked where Israel accused Russia, may they quote utt. officials, and the man twisted everything and began to ask me questions about crime hiding in Israel.

                Actually, he asked.
                Quote: bmv04636
                Can I ask you a quick question about the murderers and thieves escaping from Russia hiding in your territory ?.
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 15 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  Actually, he asked.


                  Yes, only he asked me it, during a conversation about Israel’s position on the conflict in Ukraine. Look pliz one post above.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 10 December 2014 10: 22 New
                    +1
                    Let's close this question. Nevertheless, Israel is at the official level neutral towards Russia with a fair amount of sympathy: they say that we are being pressed for Gaza, and you for Ukraine.
                    1. Koshel2901
                      Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 26 New
                      +1
                      Well well, believe them yet
                    2. ultra
                      ultra 10 December 2014 11: 42 New
                      +2
                      Neutrally, I agree, but I would not say so about the share of “sympathy”.
                  2. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 11 December 2014 08: 05 New
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                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    Yes, only he asked me it, during a conversation about Israel’s position on the conflict in Ukraine

                    As practice shows, on Israeli topics, people often do not speak about a given topic.
          2. bmv04636
            bmv04636 10 December 2014 09: 19 New
            +3
            I can redirect this question to your "light elves" because you don’t wake up?
          3. their
            their 10 December 2014 09: 21 New
            +1
            Are your special services ready to tell the citizens of Israel how they created Hamas and carried out terrorist attacks to pit Palestinians and Jews?
            1. bmv04636
              bmv04636 10 December 2014 10: 27 New
              +1
              Well, you can probably ears there from your patrons of "light elves" stick out.
          4. andj61
            andj61 10 December 2014 10: 19 New
            +1
            Quote: Smert Nik1
            Can I ask you a question?

            Let's get away from the Soviet era and their cliches. Then the Israeli secret services were also involved in relations with terrorists who carried out terrorist attacks and against Soviet citizens. It is possible that those KGB officers themselves were Jews peacefully living in Israel now.
            Israel is indeed harboring ethnic Jews who have committed crimes in Russia. True, apparently, they have already been granted Israeli citizenship, but the Israeli authorities are also not ready to judge for murders or involvement in murders outside the territory of Israel. But I do not recall something mirror cases with Russia.
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 25 New
              0
              Quote: andj61
              Let's get away from the Soviet era and their stamps


              We will not be able to get away from them, since there is a continuity between the Soviet and Russian special services.

              Quote: andj61
              Then the Israeli secret services were also involved in relations with terrorists who carried out terrorist attacks and against Soviet citizens.

              More details please. I have never heard of Israel’s participation in terrorist attacks against Soviet citizens.
              1. Koshel2901
                Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 28 New
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                You haven’t heard much, Horatio!
          5. Koshel2901
            Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 24 New
            +4
            For Israel, the benefit is right, the unprofitable is wrong, and false or true it does not matter
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 38 New
              0
              Quote: Koshel2901
              For Israel, the benefit is right, the unprofitable is wrong, and false or true it does not matter


              Is it not so for Russia? Russia does not recognize Hezbollah ter. organization, so as not to complicate relations with Iran. Although Hezbollah was marked by terror not only against the Israelis, but in the 80s against Soviet citizens, too.
              I will tell you more. Almost any country in the world builds its policies based on profitable and disadvantageous. It’s like the Poles suffered from Bandera during the war, but they still support the Ukrainian government, because it’s now profitable. There are no “noble” countries in the world, the policy of almost any country proceeds from its momentary interests.
              1. Koshel2901
                Koshel2901 10 December 2014 12: 19 New
                +2
                read the history of Russia deeper, my friend, maybe you will understand something
          6. ultra
            ultra 10 December 2014 11: 39 New
            -1
            Quote: Smert Nik1
            Did the Soviet leadership know

            But in imperial Russia the qualification of settledness was what? request
          7. ultra
            ultra 10 December 2014 11: 51 New
            +2
            Quote: Smert Nik1
            For example, why were members of the black October, after the terrorist attack in Munich, guarded by KGB officers?

            I have not heard of this, but the fact that one of the participants in the terrorist attack in the USSR does not say anything. All this is from the category of assumptions and conjectures.
          8. revnagan
            revnagan 10 December 2014 15: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: Smert Nik1
            Can I ask you a question? Do your special services agree to discover all the secrets of training Palestinian terrorists?

            You pose the question as an experienced tracker. The fact is already proven, everything is known, and you are only interested in that, small details. And can you cite the facts that the special services were generally engaged in the preparation of terrorists?
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 16: 41 New
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              Quote: revnagan
              And can you cite the facts that the special services were generally engaged in the preparation of terrorists, can you?


              Well, the information in Hebrew will probably not satisfy you, but here is a small quote in Russian:

              “Since the mid-1960s, the USSR has been continuously training soldiers sent by the Palestine Liberation Organization to study in Soviet military schools. Their training in the special platoon / company commander of special intelligence was carried out mainly in the 165th training training center for foreign military personnel, located in the Crimea "

              Taken from here:
              https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%
              D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%B2%D
              0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D1%81%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BD%D0
              %B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE
      2. their
        their 10 December 2014 09: 19 New
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        What is the problem of this meeting? Hezbollah is a party like Likud. It’s just that GoebbelsTV calls you terrorist.
  • yana532912
    yana532912 10 December 2014 07: 55 New
    +2
    Just the facts! In any conflict, look for the ears of a "chosen" nation.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 08: 34 New
      -1
      Quote: yana532912
      Just the facts! In any conflict, look for the ears of a "chosen" nation.


      It is in this that you are no different from Bandera. It’s just that they still haven’t given you a weapon, and in your thoughts you have long agreed to a final solution to the Jewish question.
      It is just like you singing a great song: "Burn, burn Well ... dyara."

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs5iEVQNdNs
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 10 December 2014 09: 14 New
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        Quote: Smert Nik1
        It is just like you singing a great song: "Burn, burn Well ... dyara."

        The song is really fun. , German motives are felt, only the video is wrong, they should dance
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Stypor23
          The song is really fun. , German motives are felt, only the video is wrong, they should dance


          For some reason I have no doubt that this song is close to you. Now ask yourself, your attitude towards Jews is very different from Bandera? In my opinion, not really. If I began to joke about the burnt Russians, you would hardly be so complacent.
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 10 December 2014 10: 14 New
            0
            Quote: Smert Nik1
            Quote: Stypor23
            The song is really fun. , German motives are felt, only the video is wrong, they should dance


            For some reason I have no doubt that this song is close to you. Now ask yourself, your attitude towards Jews is very different from Bandera? In my opinion, not really. If I began to joke about the burnt Russians, you would hardly be so complacent.

            It’s different. I just said that the song is mischievous, and you’re glad to say that I liked it. You also like to catch up like an experienced Nativa employee. They say they sleep in Russia and see that they put all the Jews on a par with Kolomoisky.
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 27 New
              +1
              Quote: Stypor23
              I only said that the song is mischievous,


              Are you happy when people are burned?
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 10 December 2014 10: 41 New
                +1
                Quote: Smert Nik1
                Quote: Stypor23
                I only said that the song is mischievous,


                Are you happy when people are burned?

                What did you get?
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 43 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  What did you get?


                  Because the song describes the sad real events taking place in the war. And you find her cheerful and mischievous.
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 10 December 2014 10: 53 New
                    0
                    I realized what this song is about.
                    Quote: Smert Nik1
                    you find her cheerful and mischievous.

                    She is conceived this way, but that does not mean that I am happy
                    1. Smert Nik1
                      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 18 New
                      0
                      Quote: Stypor23
                      She is conceived this way, but that does not mean that I am happy


                      Sorry, but this is what you think in your comments.
                      1. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 11: 29 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        She is conceived this way, but that does not mean that I am happy


                        Sorry, but this is what you think in your comments.

                        Yes, you specify if that. Do not look for a martyr in who he is not. And according to your comas, a picture emerges that you come from Yasha’s office from Channel 9.
                      2. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 44 New
                        0
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Yes, you specify if that. Do not look for a martyr in who he is not


                        You are not a martyr, you just do not a bit like the Jews and consider the songs about their burning mischievous.

                        Quote: Stypor23
                        According to your comas, a picture emerges that you come from Yasha’s office from Channel 9.

                        My profession feeds me well.
                        I’m not writing that you are a native of Fradkov’s nest (about another saffir in Russian service).
                      3. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 11: 55 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        You’re not a martyr, you just don’t make Jews a bit

                        And for what specifically do I dislike you?
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        and you think the songs about burning them are mischievous.

                        as well as the blood of Jewish babies I drink together an aperitif.
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        I’m not writing that you are a native of Fradkov’s nest (about another saffir in Russian service).

                        There is nothing to evaluate my activity. Yes, I don’t even know who he is.
                      4. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 08 New
                        0
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        There is nothing to evaluate my activity. Yes, I don’t even know who he is.


                        Who do you know? Fradkova or Shafirova?
                      5. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 13: 13 New
                        0
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        There is nothing to evaluate my activity. Yes, I don’t even know who he is.


                        Who do you know? Fradkova or Shafirova?

                        Both of them.
                      6. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 32 New
                        0
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Both of them.


                        Fradkov: So you are interested in Israeli Nativ more than your own foreign intelligence service?
                        Hope you are joking.

                        Shafirov, a Jewish crosshair, was close to Peter the Great.

                        Do not be offended, but you need to know the history of your country.
                      7. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 13: 40 New
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                        Yes, I'm not offended. laughing Thanks for the info laughingI hope that my computers, telephones and non-official communications are not controlled by my own security service. laughing
                      8. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 47 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Yes, I'm not offended. Thanks for the info. I hope my computers, telephones and out-of-office communications do not control their own security service.


                        Ask them yourself, this is after all the service of yours and not of my country. Or do you prefer that Fradkov be personally asked in the synagogue?
                      9. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 13: 55 New
                        0
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Or do you prefer that Fradkov be personally asked in the synagogue?

                        But he still does not have such data.
                      10. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 57 New
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                        Quote: Stypor23
                        But he still does not have such data.


                        Do you think that Fradkov, as the director of the SVR, is not able to receive data from whom his office is following?
                        Or is he, a Jew, not attending a synagogue?
                      11. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 14: 05 New
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                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Do you think that Fradkov, as the director of the SVR, is not able to receive data from whom his office is following?

                        Why would his office keep an eye on the ordinary honest hard worker?
                        Quote: Smert Nik1
                        Or is he, a Jew, not attending a synagogue?

                        But is it really obligatory for every Jew to attend a synagogue?
                      12. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 14: 11 New
                        0
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        But is it really obligatory for every Jew to attend a synagogue?


                        And where else can we take the blood of Christian babies on matzo? Outside the synagogue, she is not kosher.
                      13. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 14: 13 New
                        +1
                        Exactly. I want to eat. Apparently not all Jews are vampires.
                      14. Smert Nik1
                        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 14: 24 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Stypor23
                        Exactly. I want to eat. Apparently not all Jews are vampires.


                        No, we have this strictly. Those who do not eat matzah are expelled from the masons and forced to do physical work.
                      15. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 14: 32 New
                        0
                        Why no one had thought of slipping poisoned blood.
                      16. tilix
                        tilix 10 December 2014 22: 04 New
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                        What will you poison?
                      17. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 10 December 2014 23: 04 New
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                        You can try pork.
                      18. tilix
                        tilix 10 December 2014 23: 37 New
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                        But what, is not originally grown on selected pork? What a poison.
                      19. Stypor23
                        Stypor23 11 December 2014 07: 21 New
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                        We assume that for the orthodox, it’s like garlic for a ghoul.
              2. andj61
                andj61 11 December 2014 06: 34 New
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                Quote: Smert Nik1
                No, we have this strictly. Those who do not eat matzah are expelled from the masons and forced to do physical work.

                Along the way, with the exception of half a million orthodox, all the Jews of Israel are only engaged in physical work - over there, what state in a semi-desert for 60 years or more they have been beaten off! hi
  • Koshel2901
    Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 37 New
    +1
    question of a near person, unfortunately.
  • Egor65g
    Egor65g 10 December 2014 10: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Stypor23
    in Russia they sleep and see how to put all Jews on a par with Kolomoisky.


    Judging by the three-day comments of the majority of Russians, you are not mistaken.
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 10 December 2014 11: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Egor65G
      Quote: Stypor23
      in Russia they sleep and see how to put all Jews on a par with Kolomoisky.


      Judging by the three-day comments of the majority of Russians, you are not mistaken.

      Here are just a wave of anti-Semitic actions in Russia by no means rolling, as some Israeli Jews would like.
      1. Egor65g
        Egor65g 10 December 2014 11: 14 New
        0
        You are serious
        Quote: Stypor23
        as some Israeli Jews would like.

        And note, most Russians on the site are not the majority as a whole
        1. Stypor23
          Stypor23 10 December 2014 11: 21 New
          +1
          Well, what a joke.
          So, guided by your logic, the majority of local Sitesian Russians are outright Jewish haters
          1. Smert Nik1
            Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 48 New
            +1
            Quote: Stypor23
            Well, what a joke.
            So, guided by your logic, the majority of local Sitesian Russians are outright Jewish haters


            Sorry, that wedged. Is not it? In any case, reading comments on "Israeli" topics, this is precisely the opinion that is being formed. You even invented the term: "Zhidobandera", despite all the oxymoriness of this term. On the other hand, the truth also loves to trump “railroad chippings,” so that “love” for Jews is the only thing that unites you.
            1. Stypor23
              Stypor23 10 December 2014 12: 03 New
              0
              Quote: Smert Nik1
              Sorry, that wedged.

              And Sasha, that's okay.
              Quote: Smert Nik1
              Is not it? In any case, reading comments on "Israeli" topics, this is precisely the opinion that is being formed. You even invented the term: "Zhidobandera", despite all the oxymoriness of this term. On the other hand, the truth also loves to trump “railroad chippings,” so that “love” for Jews is the only thing that unites you.

              Well, again, a bunch of scum discredits the entire Jewish people.
            2. andj61
              andj61 10 December 2014 12: 25 New
              +3
              Quote: Smert Nik1
              You even invented the term: "Zhidobandera", despite all the oxymoriness of this term.

              We did not invent this term, but Jews, or rather, one particular Jew! wassat
            3. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 12: 56 New
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              Quote: andj61
              We did not invent this term, but Jews, or rather, one particular Jew!


              During the war there were Jews who served the Nazis. Not mythical SS soldiers, but quite specific: capos, members of the Judenrats, Jewish police in the ghetto. Their life after the war was unenviable. Most of the kapos were killed by the prisoners of the camps themselves, they were drowned in a shise-barrack (toilet). Members of the Judenrat and the police were either killed or tried. I think that Kolomoisky is also able to answer. But Russians should judge him, not Israel, since his activities are carried out on the territory of Ukraine and Russia.
            4. andj61
              andj61 10 December 2014 13: 16 New
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              Quote: Smert Nik1
              But Russians should judge him, not Israel, since his activities are carried out on the territory of Ukraine and Russia.

              I agree! I’m just talking about the fact that this term - the Zhidobandera - was not invented by the Russians at all!
            5. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 33 New
              -1
              Quote: andj61
              I agree!


              Do you have more questions about Israel about Kolomoisky?
    2. Egor65g
      Egor65g 10 December 2014 12: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Stypor23
      Most local Sitesian Russians are outspoken Jewish haters
      -I agree.
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 10 December 2014 12: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Egor65G
        Quote: Stypor23
        Most local Sitesian Russians are outspoken Jewish haters
        -I agree.

        Well, why pull out of context. And in Voronezh, one of the largest synagogues in the Russian Federation was opened.
        It’s bad for Jews in Russia. So it’s not for them that they want to screw from Mother.
  • Smert Nik1
    Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Stypor23
    Here are just a wave of anti-Semitic actions in Russia by no means rolling, as some Israeli Jews would like.


    I wonder why. Is your attitude towards Jews characteristic of most of the inhabitants of Russia?
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 10 December 2014 11: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Smert Nik1
      Is your attitude towards Jews characteristic of most of the inhabitants of Russia?

      Do you think I know how the majority of the population of Russia relates to Jews?
  • KOMA
    KOMA 12 December 2014 19: 40 New
    0
    Nothing like this! Just business :)
  • Koshel2901
    Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 35 New
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    Oops! Offended the boy! You do not equal Jews and Israelis, it is the same as equating a Ukrainian with Bendera and a German with fascists.
  • mervino2007
    mervino2007 10 December 2014 11: 41 New
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    Smert Nik1 (3) IL  "For some reason, I have no doubt that this song is close to you"

    The position is very different. Bandera - feed up Hitler. Jews are a nation that suffered greatly during World War II from Nazi and Bandera Nazis. Holocaust - remember. The same thing is happening in the Donbass. The Jewish detachment of internationalists in the Donbass was. Thank you for your help and understanding.
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  • andj61
    andj61 10 December 2014 10: 34 New
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    Quote: Smert Nik1
    It is in this that you are no different from Bandera.

    You are just overdoing it! It is clear to everyone where the negative attitude towards Jews comes from in Russia - too many of them have seized power and a lot of money, were engaged in lawlessness, committed lawlessness - and this at all times, it began from the time of tenants in the Commonwealth. If interested - you can talk and discuss.
    But these Jews made up and make up 1-2% of the whole people, and the impression of the people is absolutely unfairly made on the basis of this 1%. You live in Israel, a self-sufficient country, whose citizens, with arms in hand, defended their right to exist, have proved that you can live well on a piece of half-sheet. For this you can only be respected and admired by your achievements.
    And you personally, in response to the comment you didn’t like, begin to aggravate, practically provoke manifestations of anti-Semitism. There are a lot of people on the site - someone will definitely lead.
    Of course, I am ashamed of the statements of my compatriots - I apologize for them!
    But you should not take such a position.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 41 New
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      Quote: andj61
      You are just overdoing it! It is clear to everyone where the negative attitude towards Jews comes from in Russia - too many of them have seized upon the authorities and into big money


      And why did you, the citizens of Russia, vote for such power?


      Quote: andj61
      And you personally, in response to the comment you didn’t like, begin to aggravate, practically provoke manifestations of anti-Semitism


      Because I believe that overt anti-Semitism is better than the benign, "cultured" anti-Semitism.
      1. andj61
        andj61 10 December 2014 11: 33 New
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        Quote: Smert Nik1
        And why did you, the citizens of Russia, vote for such power?

        Do you seriously think that you can achieve victory in a crystal-clear manner even in the most democratic elections? I thought that there were no such wonderful people left! good
        Everything in the 90s was imposed on us against our will: both the collapse of the Union (the people — including me, in a referendum on March 17.03.1993, XNUMX voted to preserve the Union), and power, and privatization, and oligarchs, and many, many, many what else. Think you have better? Of course, more cultural, of course, more sleek. But political technologies exist, and are applied on a massive scale precisely for money that the common people do not have and never will.

        Quote: Smert Nik1
        Because I believe that overt anti-Semitism is better than the benign, "cultured" anti-Semitism.

        Here you are, with your statements, perhaps involuntarily) and first provoke this, not beloved by you, "cultured" anti-Semitism, which under certain circumstances can develop into undisguised anti-Semitism that you love. I hope you are not cultivating anti-Semitism on purpose? request

        Personally, I have come across Jews that are unpleasant to me, and there are Jews among my friends and good acquaintances. The topic of anti-Semitism is largely fueled by just such petty provocations. Although the negative attitude to ANY nationality can not be justified by any arguments. Here is a negative attitude towards a SPECIFIC person - it is quite possible!
        As in a joke:
        “Are you firing me for being a Jew?”
        - No, because you can’t do a damn thing!
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 57 New
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          Quote: andj61
          Do you seriously think that you can achieve victory in a crystal-clear manner even in the most democratic elections? I thought that there were no such wonderful people left!


          And why are fair elections possible in our country, and if the president has done anything, he’s going to jail, but this doesn’t happen for you? Who is to blame for the fact that some Jews (and non-Jews too), who in the West, at best, would have reached the level of the district of a bread shop, are turning billions in you. And your population is silent and suffers. Why do not the Russian people in the police and the FSB support the people, but rather do everything to divide the people into a bunch of aristocrats who can have everything and a dumb crowd, with whom everything can be done? Is Israel also to blame?


          Quote: andj61
          Here you are, with your statements, perhaps involuntarily) and first provoke this, not beloved by you, "cultured" anti-Semitism, which under certain circumstances can develop into your favorite outright anti-Semitism.


          But what about. All victims of violence are always to blame for what happened to them. I don’t need to impose the psychology of the victim. I'm not Cinderella and used to call a spade a spade.

          P.S. You did not answer about the participation of Israel in the attacks against Soviet citizens.
          1. andj61
            andj61 10 December 2014 12: 19 New
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            Quote: Smert Nik1
            P.S. You did not answer about the participation of Israel in the attacks against Soviet citizens.

            80s, Lebanon. Arab terrorists kidnap two Soviet citizens, set demands. Our specialists arrived, walked along the chain, found traces. They stole the son of one of the groups closest to the leadership, were castrated and released. Requirements - let go of our and loyalty. At the same time, several more hostages were taken. During negotiations with the Arabs, it turned out that they had paid the operation of the Israeli secret services, not directly, they again went through the chain. The goal is to embroil the USSR with the Arabs. After there was a game of special services and trade - everything, as usual. This story is sensational, only about 10 years ago, our recognized that they themselves participated, and not "friendly Arab organizations."
            Only now you will not find links to the Israeli trail, but it was. Unless the veterans of your special services speak out. By the way, not only in this case. And now, intelligence agencies, including Israel, are actively working with terrorists, and on occasion use them.
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 12: 30 New
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              Here is the link from here:
              http://2006.novayagazeta.ru/nomer/2006/48n/n48n-s11.shtml

              "In Beirut, four employees of the USSR Embassy were captured in Lebanon at that time. The situation in Lebanon was as follows: Syria and the Hesbollah organization shared the country, the latter being friends with Yasser Arafat, providing camps for people in Lebanese territory."

              That is, do you think Israel paid Hizaballe (and it was she who organized the attack), which was on the content of Syria? Great story. Nothing bothers you about it?

              PS
              Why then does Hezbollah fight against Israel if it is kept by Israel?
              1. andj61
                andj61 10 December 2014 21: 17 New
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                Even from this source of yours there is NO evidence that it was Hesboll who participated in the abduction. And then only experts heard about Hesbollah, and Shiites were really represented in Lebanon by a completely different organization - Amal. If we remember about Lebanon’s division at that time, then google - then there was a certain major Haddad and his army of Southern Lebanon - a thoroughly pro-Israeli organization created with the money of the Israeli special services and supported directly by the Israeli army. It was precisely this group that stood behind the terrorists who abducted our people - again, not directly, but through a certain chain. But among the specialists who liberated our people and dealt with the terrorists, at least two were ethnic Jews, really able to speak Hebrew, and even not by hearsay familiar with the Torah and Talmud. Just as there were specialists in Shiites, Sunnis, Druze and Maronites - then it was necessary to clearly know who did this, from what motives - and minimize possible damage. There were militants - how could it be without them! The task was completed, there was a bargaining of special services, there was no disclosure. The credibility of the USSR in BV as a result of the operation only increased.
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 21: 31 New
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                  Quote: andj61
                  Even from this source of yours there is NO evidence that it was Hesboll who participated in the abduction.


                  Colonel SVR Yuri PERFILIEV:
                  “AND THEN I TOLD THE SHEIKH THAT THE ROCKET CAN FLY TO KHOMEYNI”

                  http://www.ogoniok.com/archive/2001/4718/43-17-19/


                  Now please be kind to your links.
                2. tilix
                  tilix 10 December 2014 21: 41 New
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                  Hadad had a largely independent organization, with its headquarters. And they betrayed Israel more than once that the same Sabra stands and rocked the creation of their northern brothers.
                  Also, along the chain to them (Maruns) they could come through your church, and order someone from those who have your church roofs. But for now, it could. There is no evidence. And it would be necessary.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 10 December 2014 22: 30 New
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                    Quote: tilix
                    Hadad had a largely independent organization, with its headquarters. And they betrayed Israel more than once that the same Sabra stands and rocked the creation of their northern brothers.
                    Also, along the chain to them (Maruns) they could come through your church, and order someone from those who have your church roofs. But for now, it could. There is no evidence. And it would be necessary.


                    Haddad was not independent. And there a certain colonel, let’s say, was driving from Israel. Is the colonel subordinate to the major? Really funny? So he taxied this major.
                    And to Sabra and Shatila, if my memory serves me, Haddad is not involved in anything. It seems to be the phantangists of Kataib organized. True, also Maronites.
                    And you ask yourself, where did these independents from the Army of South Lebanon go? So you live in the neighborhood!
                    And as for the evidence - this will remain an urban legend and memories of veterans - both Russian and Israeli. However, there were much more countries involved - plus the USA, France, Iran (transferring its Iranian Hezbollah closer to Israel at that time), the Arabian kingdoms of the Gulf, Syria, Egypt, etc., etc.
                  2. tilix
                    tilix 10 December 2014 23: 13 New
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                    Say, relatively independent, especially in relation to operations with the local population. At that time, we had such an assumption that locals understand better than others how to work on the spot. For example, in ElHiyam prison, there were no Israeli investigators.
                    You ask yourself, where did these independents from the Army of South Lebanon go? So you live in the neighborhood!
                    We know. They were invited and those who wished moved to Israel. About five thousand. This was the only positive growth of the Christian population in a single country in the Middle East. Still.
    2. revnagan
      revnagan 10 December 2014 11: 42 New
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      Quote: Smert Nik1
      And why did you, the citizens of Russia, vote for such power?

      Oh my God, pennies for fish. Yes, Mark Twain said that if we could decide something, who would let us go to the polls? After all, what annoys people? That, using the financial resources of THESE people crawl to leadership positions, and then they claim that they were HONESTLY CHOSEN by the PEOPLE. Here's an example-Valtsman. Well, who, who elected him as president? YES NO ONE !!! And HOW did he get there? If no one voted for him? So you have to explain everything to the "world conspiracy. "
      1. Smert Nik1
        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 04 New
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        Quote: revnagan
        .Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, then who would let us go to the polls?


        But why is it possible in other countries, but not in Russia?
        1. andj61
          andj61 10 December 2014 21: 27 New
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          Quote: Smert Nik1
          Quote: revnagan
          .Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, then who would let us go to the polls?


          But why is it possible in other countries, but not in Russia?

          Well, where did you get the idea that at least somewhere it is possible? Do you really think that by voting for one or another party you decide something in Israel? Everywhere has its own system, which does not allow to remove real power from power. This is done in your country through the competition of one and a half dozen small parties representing the interests of the same financial groups, in the USA these are two parties, in the UK two and a half, in Germany - one and a half plus one and a half, and in Russia - only one and a half. - everything is exactly the same and predictable. And you are seriously declaring that the removal of an elderly well-deserved respected person from power and his imprisonment on far-fetched charges - did you remember your President? is the merit of democracy in Israel! laughing
          This is not democracy, but demagogy and idiocy, brought to the point of absurdity: at first it is extolled, and then, when it became objectionable, they took advantage of the slightest and far from impeccable reason to imprison it. If only they didn’t remember about this shame! angry
          1. Smert Nik1
            Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 21: 39 New
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            Quote: andj61
            Well, where did you get the idea that at least somewhere it is possible? Do you really think that by voting for one or another party you decide something in Israel? Everywhere has its own system, which does not allow to remove real power from power. This is done in your country through the competition of one and a half dozen small parties representing the interests of the same financial groups, in the USA these are two parties, in the UK two and a half, in Germany - one and a half plus one and a half, and in Russia - only one and a half. - everything is exactly the same and predictable. And you are seriously declaring that the removal of an elderly well-deserved respected person from power and his imprisonment on far-fetched charges - did you remember your President? is the merit of democracy in Israel!
            This is not democracy, but demagogy and idiocy, brought to the point of absurdity: at first it is extolled, and then, when it became objectionable, they took advantage of the slightest and far from impeccable reason to imprison it. If only they didn’t remember about this shame!


            Well, you can evaluate the accusation against Katsav in different ways. But swallow that there is a difference between how we are punished by those who hold power and how you are. And if we are not satisfied with the authorities, then it would never occur to anyone to blame the Russians or any other people for this. In any case, our power is our choice.
          2. Neksel
            Neksel 11 December 2014 00: 33 New
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            Quote: andj61
            Quote: Smert Nik1
            Quote: revnagan
            .Mark Twain also said that if we could decide something, then who would let us go to the polls?


            But why is it possible in other countries, but not in Russia?

            the removal of an elderly honored respected person from power and his imprisonment on far-fetched charges - did you remember your President? is the merit of democracy in Israel! laughing
            This is not democracy, but demagogy and idiocy, brought to the point of absurdity: at first it is extolled, and then, when it became objectionable, they took advantage of the slightest and far from impeccable reason to imprison it. If only they didn’t remember about this shame! angry


            But what kind of power does the president of Israel have? She is in the hands of the prime minister — and the president has no more power than the Queen of England. No need to broadcast nonsense and build on them such "abstruse" logical chains.
            1. andj61
              andj61 11 December 2014 06: 26 New
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              Quote: Neksel
              But what kind of power does the president of Israel have? She is in the hands of the prime minister — and the president has no more power than the Queen of England. No need to broadcast stupid things and build on them such "abstruse" logical chains

              And where did I point out that the President of Israel has real leverage?
              By the way, the conventional wisdom about the Queen of England is clear evidence of ignorance of the essence of the matter. The royal prerogatives are so vast that they make one think of an absolute monarchy. The queen now has power, which the Russian emperor did not even dream of. True, it is realized by transferring powers to cabinet ministers. But the cabinet also bears responsibility. If necessary, the Queen has the right at any time to remove the cabinet from power. And in Australia, the royal governor-general has already removed the government from power.

              As president of Israel, they always tried to elect a well-deserved and crystal-honest person so that he would perform representative functions and be one of the symbols of the state. Think what you have done with this symbol? Yes, in what way ?! But in the end, this is YOUR business. But to brag about IT, to represent IT as evidence of an all-conquering democracy in the state of Israel is naivety and too much!
              1. tilix
                tilix 11 December 2014 08: 28 New
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                That is, you suggest that we close our eyes to his "pranks"? It should not initially be selected. what about
                through far-fetched accusations
                Do you really think so?
                1. andj61
                  andj61 11 December 2014 10: 14 New
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                  Quote: tilix
                  Do you really think so?

                  Very badly these accusations smack. Opinion from the side: someone deliberately began to rock the boat, grabbing at the crap. The court was not impartial; the defense parties did not seriously consider the petitions at all. Katsav himself was simply ashamed, he was ready to fall through the ground, and he clearly did not understand why he was being pressed like that.
                  Such processes give rise to aversion to power in general and lead to a weakening of the state. After all, the attack was not on the party, not on the oligarchs, not on the military, that is, not on something really having power and strength, but on a symbol of the state. I think that this was clearly beneficial for someone.
                2. tilix
                  tilix 11 December 2014 11: 45 New
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                  Opinion from
                  It is really important. I don’t think so, but I also need to consider this option, although I do not believe in "someone profitable." Anything that does not happen is beneficial to someone.
            2. Neksel
              Neksel 11 December 2014 12: 04 New
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              Quote: andj61
              And where did I point out that the President of Israel has real leverage?
              And you still seriously declare that the removal of an elderly honored respected person from authorities


              And as for the well-deserved, this does not give him the right to harass women using his position, and God forbid, this would be done in many other cases that often go unpunished. And whoever sits higher - there is more demand from him. As you rightly noted, a “crystal clear” person should be in this position.
              I do not advise you to judge the deserved or undeserved punishment without having real (and not what is poured in the media) information. And I declare this to you precisely because I am personally related to the judicial system and to a large extent familiar with the features of both the case and the system.
              And yes, I am very proud of the Israeli justice system. Yes, not without flaws, but where are they not? One can only strive for the ideal.
  • Stypor23
    Stypor23 11 December 2014 07: 56 New
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    Quote: andj61
    And you personally, in response to the comment you didn’t like, begin to aggravate, practically provoke manifestations of anti-Semitism

    Of all the local Jews, he does it best. Professional.
  • Koshel2901
    Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 31 New
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    ABOUT!!! They haven’t done anything yet, and we have already been labeled Bandera’s, and Bandera’s in power in Ukraine is normal for them. Everything is clear to you, gentlemen of Israel (note, I don’t say “Jews”)
  • oracul
    oracul 10 December 2014 07: 58 New
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    Leontyev’s interview only confirms the truth that neither the United States, nor the West, nor Israel and others, need objectivity. Accordingly, Dubov solved the task set for him - to take Leontyev off balance with oak questions. And in general, it’s not necessary to simplify, in this kind of interview, both Putin and Lavrov, I think, would have been not easy either, because there is frank provocation when you and your answers are not listened to and not heard.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 08: 38 New
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      Quote: oracul
      Leontyev’s interview only confirms the truth that neither the United States, nor the West, nor Israel and others, need objectivity


      I agree. You don’t need it either. Just look at how your RT covers the news of terrorist attacks in Israel.
      1. andj61
        andj61 10 December 2014 10: 41 New
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        Quote: Smert Nik1
        Just look at how your RT covers the news of terrorist attacks in Israel.

        And how does RT illuminate them? Honestly, I use the Internet, sometimes I watch the main Russian channels, which RT is not included in, but, in my opinion, the terrorist attacks in Israel are covered in sufficient detail and with a negative connotation for terrorists.
        And if you consider that the "talking" heads of the Israeli police and military for our journalists give information in Russian, and even the names of some are completely Slavic, then another effect arises - look, and there our terrorists beat!
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 54 New
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          Quote: andj61
          And how does RT illuminate them? Honestly, I use the Internet, sometimes I watch the main Russian channels, which RT is not included in, but, in my opinion, the terrorist attacks in Israel are covered in sufficient detail and with a negative connotation for terrorists.


          RT was happy to describe the suffering of Gaza during the war, but in the period prior to the war, it “forgot” to talk about the shelling of Israeli cities with rockets from Gaza, which in many respects provoked the last (and penultimate) conflict. My 11-year-old daughter, who understands Russian well, after watching the release of Russian TV once, asked me childishly: "Dad, why are they lying like that?" In general, I try to cultivate a love for Russia in her, as a country where her ancestors lived, but here I just did not know what to say. It seems to me that since then her attitude towards Russia has changed a lot.
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 10 December 2014 08: 55 New
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      I will not boast, but I personally do not have the difficulty of rigidly putting on the 5 point those who are trying to prove something against Russia and New Russia.
      Damn, there are so many hard facts against the junta that you have to be an oligophrenic so as not to prove the obvious.
      1) The junta is illegitimate, if it is about "legality".
      2) Junta - scumbags, remember Odessa, Maripol and other civilians shot and tortured by the Nazi junta.
      3) Crimea was threatened by Maidan power in the open. In Odessa we see that the threats were not empty. Therefore, Russia simply saved the lives of people. Moreover, Crimea was transferred to Ukraine purely out of control and people there did not feel themselves as Ukrainians. We trusted them with people, and they were going to kill them.
      4) The war in the Donbass began on the 2 of May, when Ukrainian troops went to storm Slavyansk. Before that, they just wanted federalization
      5) The shooters in Slavyansk and the Militia are not the cause of the war. In Odessa there was no Militia, so what? It didn’t stop LIVING people
      6) Boeing. If Russia knocked him down, why then does the West in every way slow down the meeting and does not want to talk about the contents of black boxes?
      7) There are plenty of photos of Ukrainian troops with Nazi symbols. Bandera is the hero of dill officially. Who else has questions on the topic of fascist / non-fascist?
      1. Signature
        Signature 10 December 2014 09: 39 New
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        After amputation of conscience, a person does not become oligophrenic, but simply becomes (deliberately delicately express myself!) Unconscious.
        But how many "sore questions" disappear. Together with the need for "moral search" and the pain described by all sorts of Tolstoys with Dostoevsky "moral torment." In general, if conscience is минminusatized ", there will be a solid profit in all areas (by the way, both of внутренней domestic’ and внешней foreign policy, in particular).
  • Signature
    Signature 10 December 2014 08: 05 New
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    The conversation between the two antipodes is somehow really always pointless. Can anyone, having thought thoroughly, prove that the conversation between the two antipodes makes some sense in principle?
    I remember, many years ago (and it was deeply Soviet time), I happened to hear a thing that struck me: that a tomato salad - to improve the taste - IT IS ADOPTED (EVERYTHING in this wording!) To sprinkle ... with sugar (and at least , one national cuisine comes from - this is true, - from such an installation).
    When there was a slight stupor, only one counterargument flashed through my mind - like a salvation. "And why, then, salt on tables in cafes and restaurants, despite the fact that there is no sugar on the tables?" - That was my low-powered "crown" question.
    In response, I heard the following: "There would have been sugar, but it is much more expensive than salt (in the sense: it cannot be" freely available "for financial reasons)." Honestly, I still can’t figure out what it was necessary to “cover”. Maybe someone else will figure it out?
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 10 December 2014 08: 13 New
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    Why liberals should be for Novorossia
    A part of the media class has a strange way of equating the armed conflict in Novorossia with the armed conflict in Chechnya and poking this comparison into the interlocutor, seeking recognition of the confession of double standards. Recently, a certain part of the Russian media class, claiming to be liberal, has a strange way of equating the armed conflict in Novorossia with the armed conflict in Chechnya and poking this comparison as an interlocutor, seeking recognition of the practice of religion of double standards. The interlocutor, realizing that the difference between Bezler and some Khattab, or between Zakharchenko and Basaev, is huge, but for some reason being unable to formulate this difference in a form suitable for further discussion, he braces and retreats, leaving the battlefield behind the triumphant hipster . In the framework of the perpetual action to protect the good and the truth, we decided to help good people who feel the truth, but are not able to give it a formal logical character to people.
    I propose not to be penny wise and to evaluate and compare the reality given to us in sensations and memories from the point of view of human rights - the central concept of liberalism.
    First, let's figure out whether it is correct to call both Chechen fighters and members of the armed groups of New Russia terrorists. In accordance with the criminal law of Russia, terrorism “is the commission of an explosion, arson, or other actions that create the danger of death, causing substantial property damage or other socially dangerous consequences, if these acts were committed in order to violate public safety, intimidate the population or influence decision-making by the authorities, as well as the threat of these actions for the same purpose. ” Do we know examples of terrorist acts committed by Chechen separatists? Yes, of course. These are seizures of schools, hospitals and maternity hospitals, explosions in various cities of Russia. Are we aware of such actions on the part of the armed groups of the DPR and LPR? No, we are not aware of such actions. Also, our respected and certainly no less loving truth opponents often call members of the armed groups of the DPR and LPR nationalists and even Russian fascists. However, we are not aware of the actions of the DPR and LPR authorities aimed at infringing human rights on the territory of the LPR and the DPR on a national basis, we are not aware of crimes that could have signs of genocide - destruction, obstacles to reproduction, and eviction of people from a particular territory. At the same time, we know that in Dudayev’s Chechnya, ethnic cleansing was systematically carried out, expropriation of property, housing was carried out on a national basis, ethnic minorities were affected in their rights, and freedom of conscience was not respected.
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 10 December 2014 08: 13 New
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    Extension
    Now let’s compare the goals of creating the DPR, LPR, modern Maidanized Ukraine and Dudaev’s Ichkeria in terms of human rights. So, for what purpose was Ichkeria created? Ichkeria was created as a mononational state, living according to the laws of Sharia. That is, a state that does not recognize the human right to freedom of conscience, the equal rights of women and men, is an ethnocratic state. Maidan Ukraine was created as an ethnocratic state, denying the rights of national minorities to autonomy, to preserve their culture.
    # {author} LPR and DPR were created as refuge states by Ukrainian nationalists from violations of the rights of the Russian-speaking minority. In the DPR and LPR, there is no discrimination against Ukrainians, there is no prohibition of the Ukrainian language. Thus, the LPR and the DPR were created to ensure the protection of human rights in accordance with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and modern Ukraine and Dudaev Ichkeria were created to violate human rights at the level of state policy. Therefore, every honest liberal should be for Novorossia and against Ukraine and Ichkeria. However, we see that for some reason the state, which upholds liberal values ​​at the international level, and people who call themselves liberals, take absolutely the opposite position on these issues. Why? The answer, it seems to me, lies in the recent vote on the resolution “On the fight against the glorification of Nazism” introduced by Russia at the UN, in which only three countries opposed the adoption of the resolution — the United States, Canada, and Ukraine. Thus, these countries believe that the practice of Nazism is an inalienable human right. And since Nazism is a doctrine requiring the violation of human rights, the denial of these rights by entire nations, from the point of view of these countries, not all are people, but only those who are able to profess Nazism. Other - contrary to formal logic.
    Roman Nosik.
    Here you have the answer gentlemen Channel 9 Israel.
    1. Signature
      Signature 10 December 2014 08: 57 New
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      Any lie contradicts formal logic.
      The problem is precisely what is before us - those who have never been guided by the demand of truth and who have not sought it.

      And this begs the question: can there be a failure in tactics, proceeding from the fact that you (i.e., an abstract individual) must be infallibly honest, arguing with a notorious crook?
      Is it possible in this way to defeat the rogue somewhere and ever at all? It’s possible to look honest (i.e. look beautiful). But look - at the same time - can you also be smarter than a rogue?

      Since the 1870s, the philosophical foundation of business (and, for the most part, of any other) American culture is pragmatism, which recognizes as true what brings benefits / benefits (so no such searches for truth in themselves are long ago supposed).
    2. andj61
      andj61 10 December 2014 10: 48 New
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      Quote: bmv04636
      Here you have the answer gentlemen Channel 9 Israel.

      Thank you, Maxim! very reasoned, plus. good
    3. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 21 New
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      Quote: bmv04636
      Here you have the answer gentlemen Channel 9 Israel.

      They forgot to mention one trifle. Please recall how Israel voted on this resolution?
  • combat66
    combat66 10 December 2014 08: 24 New
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    A very convenient position with the interviewer ....
    Aggression against Russia against Georgia ?! After Georgian troops attacked the Russian base ....... It was necessary to stop at the border with Turkey.
    Although I am sure that in this situation there were again ultimatums of the "Anglo-Saxons", as during the Russo-Turkish. It’s somehow not convincing that Mikhail fought back, but anyway, it’s clear that our soul is sick, OUR Man!
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 08: 41 New
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      Quote: combat66
      Aggression against Russia against Georgia ?!


      And why should Israel support Russia if Russia often takes an openly anti-Israeli position?
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        Signature 10 December 2014 09: 01 New
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        Quote: Smert Nik1
        And why should Israel support Russia if Russia often takes an openly anti-Israeli position?


        Why? If only because it is most correct to support what is right, and not what seems to be beneficial. Otherwise, morality must be crossed out and said that for most stupid, this is just a trick that helps to effectively deal with those who have a conscience.
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 09: 49 New
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          Quote: Signatur
          Why? If only because it is most correct to support what is right, and not what seems to be beneficial.


          Then it turns out that Soviet / Russian support for Arab terror is right? All this rests. Your best friends are our best enemies.
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            Signature 10 December 2014 11: 05 New
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            QUOTE: Smert Nik1
            Then it turns out that Soviet / Russian support for Arab terror is right? All this rests. Your best friends are our best enemies.


            I’m silent about today's Russia. And as for Soviet politics, I will say that it - in the Middle East - proceeded from the recognition of the same Arabs' right to life and the conditions that guarantee it, as well as the symmetrical right of the Jews.
            You can not oppress others and wait for them to answer this with love and trust. In the USSR, ethnic hatred was not enough precisely because somehow it was not meant that the carriers of some nationality had more merit to world science, for example (and the Jews had a lot of them), and the carriers of some other had less. Therefore, it was possible to respect and value a person not because of his ethnicity, but because he meant himself.
            Don’t start about the “distortions”: only the deceased have not had them.
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 29 New
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              Quote: Signatur
              I’m silent about today's Russia. And as for Soviet politics, I will say that it - in the Middle East - proceeded from the recognition of the same Arabs' right to life and the conditions that guarantee it, as well as the symmetrical right of the Jews.


              And why did the USSR not demand from its Arab friends the recognition of the Jewish state and peace negotiations? Let me remind you that the whole fuss in BV began when the Arab neighbors decided not to respect the UN resolution in 1948 on the creation of Jewish and Arab states? How do the Soviet leadership’s peace aspirations correlate with dozens (or maybe hundreds) of BILLION dollars. Syria alone was forgiven 10 lard. And there was Egypt, Libya, Iraq and many, many. In Soviet times, your children in the same Chelyabinsk and other cities for months have not seen cheese, sausages and other products. Entire sausage trains traveled to Moscow for groceries, but we will supply our beloved Arabs with as many rockets and tanks as they ask for the destruction of hated Israel.
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                Signature 10 December 2014 12: 07 New
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                QUOTE: Smert Nik1
                And why did the USSR not demand from its Arab friends the recognition of the Jewish state and peace negotiations? (and more ...)


                I will not get involved in a pointless discussion (you are hardly a diplomat, I am definitely not him).
                Just to notice: AS ( request ?!) may come to mindthat a communist-oriented individual will hate Israel just like that (from the principle of what is called), if he reveres the authority of the notorious Karl Marx - a natural German Jew ?!
                And do not pour arguments: no one is silent when he expects that he will fall asleep with unverified or unrealistic information from his opponent, having weary him and depriving him of the desire to somehow orient himself in the ruins of doubtful “truths”. Turuses on wheels, where they struggle in one orbit and love for high ideals and longing for sausage, are a kind of mental centrifuge that opens (as you know) a long-awaited “window of opportunity” (there is a saying: “Lie, lie - yes, something will remain! ”And, by the way, ALWAYS remains ...).
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 12: 32 New
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                  Quote: Signatur
                  Karla Marx

                  Karl Marx came from a family of crosses. If you read his remarks about the Jews, you will be surprised and think that you are reading Mine Kapp.
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                    QUOTE: Smert Nik1
                    Karl Marx came from a family of crosses. If you read his remarks about the Jews, you will be surprised and think that you are reading Mine Kapp.


                    The experience of a passing polemic showed that our orientations are directly opposite, and moral attitudes too. This is the case when either salt in a tomato salad, or sugar. And no comments through this abyss will not carry. By the way, I don’t belong to the church at all (I’m an atheist, practically, as they say, since infancy, but this choice is exclusively my personal one): did you really expect anything else ?!
                    In general, as there, - in the immortal Gaidayev's "Caucasian Captive", - "Stop this meaningless discussion!" (after all, anyway, any “finale” in it “shines” only a dead end).
                2. tilix
                  tilix 10 December 2014 21: 50 New
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                  HOW (request?!) It may come to mind that a communist-oriented individual will hate Israel just like that (from the principle of what is called), if he reveres the authority of the notorious Karl Marx - a natural German Jew

                  To whom do they pray in church? Now read your sentence again, knowing how much the church (as an organization) of anti-Jewish
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                    Signature 11 December 2014 06: 05 New
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                    QUOTATION: tilix
                    To whom do they pray in church? Now read your sentence again, knowing how much the church (as an organization) of anti-Jewish


                    Do you think an inveterate atheist - in this case, I (though Marx's “case” is from the same “series”) - are incredibly worried about the theoretical delights of theologians? ..
                    So I’ll just emphasize that when I saw the “minus” by someone who posed to you, I decided to immediately neutralize it with my personal “plus”.

                    It seems to me that sometimes one can be so wise that wisdom ceases to correspond to itself. You know what “double negation” means according to the rules of formal logic?
                    1. Signature
                      Signature 11 December 2014 08: 28 New
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                      AUTO-QUOTATION: I decided to immediately neutralize the onago ...


                      Here is someone truly philanthropic and compassionate who honored my "opus" with a sign of affection (that is, a plus). But I look at what is written and blush. I am ashamed! It is a shame to lose the knowledge of the "native dialect" so much. The comma is not set, the style is below any "level of tolerance."
                      I blush: since you undertake to "tribune", "loudly" and "oratory" - you need to monitor your "grammar with syntax" ...

                      (Those who believe are right that after self-denunciations - not even out of place - the soul "gets warmer" ...)
                    2. tilix
                      tilix 11 December 2014 08: 33 New
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                      Dear, I just wanted to show that the respect of a Jew does not necessarily extend to other Jews. Or Kazakhs, or no matter whom. But it seems to me that you yourself understand this.
                  2. andj61
                    andj61 11 December 2014 06: 43 New
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                    Quote: tilix
                    To whom do they pray in church? Now read your sentence again, knowing how much the church (as an organization) of anti-Jewish

                    You put an equal sign between Judaism and Jewry - these are very close, but, nevertheless, different concepts. Now even in Israel there are already Jewish Christians, and even 30 to 40 years ago this was the basis for the denial of citizenship. In addition, they pray in the church to Jesus, the Virgin, the apostles. Please tell me who they were by nationality?
                    And after that you will continue to claim that the church is anti-Jewish?
                    By the way, in the ROC a number of priests are Jews by nationality, but not Jews by religion.
                    1. tilix
                      tilix 11 December 2014 08: 41 New
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                      They who were baptized are no longer Jews. For better or worse, our definitions are harsher for a year, but clearer. They
                      Jews by nationality
                      in yours, but not in our eyes. In our eyes, they are Jews by birth, but not by their very nature.
                      there are christian Jews
                      They were always there, and he renounced his citizenship when applying for citizenship (for reasons above), and not after the fact that he was already a citizen.
                      will continue to claim that the church is anti-Jewish
                      I will. Praying to Jewish individuals, the church denies and previously persecuted Jewish life (by beating smile).
                      1. andj61
                        andj61 11 December 2014 09: 23 New
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                        By the way, now, after the decision of one of the cases of granting citizenship to a Jewish Christian (L. Ulitskaya described this case in her book, the name is forgotten), citizenship is granted, recognizing him as a Jew who is not a Jew. And the church fought against Judaism as a competitor, and not in the sphere of religion, in the Middle Ages, in the 20th century, these atavisms were almost eliminated: unbelief and atheism are now more dangerous than churches, which, because of proselytism, do not even encroach on the flock.
                        The question is different - in the anti-church mood of the Jewish community.
                      2. tilix
                        tilix 11 December 2014 09: 29 New
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                        There is a high court decision. Having passed the faith, he does not fall under the law of return. He can apply for citizenship for other reasons: as a spouse, like any other non-Jew (for example, Shura Uvarov, formerly the goalkeeper of the Union team and Dynamo who received citizenship), but not by the law of return.
                      3. andj61
                        andj61 11 December 2014 09: 45 New
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                        Tell me, Alexander, why do you use the Palestinian flag of 1920-1948 as an avatar?
                        From 1920 to 1948, the state of Palestine existed in accordance with international law (under a Class A mandate), but it, like all its main institutions, was Jewish. Until the 1960s, the name "Palestine" sounded to European ears as something Jewish. Muslims rejected this name as not belonging to them. The 4000-year-old Jewish homeland, or the "Land of Israel", or the "Holy Land" - they were all synonyms !!
                        The British, as mandate holders, ruled or tried to rule the country in conjunction with Jewish auxiliary power, until the Jews regained official sovereignty in 1948, declaring independence.
                        The UN has not “recreated” Israel, as some people claim.


                        This is the Larousse French Dictionary of 1939. The appendix lists all the flags of the world existing at that time in alphabetical order.
                      4. tilix
                        tilix 11 December 2014 11: 58 New
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                        Because until 48, the Palestinians were Jews, and the Arabs were either Arabs of southern Syria or northern Egypt. They are trying, calling themselves Palestinians today, to cling to Plishtim in order to obtain some historical rights, having, in the majority, nothing to do with them. A very interesting study will be published on this subject on Sunday.
                        Kavod (respect) for vigilance and the ability to google. some comrades take googling as an insult.
        2. Signature
          Signature 11 December 2014 05: 49 New
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          QUOTE: Smert Nik1
          I’m silent about today's Russia. <...> Entire sausage trains traveled to Moscow for groceries, but ... we will deliver to our beloved Arabs free as many rockets and tanks as they ask, if only to destroy the hated Israel.


          You see, I proceed from the fact that the donkey cannot announce the surroundings with nightingale trills: it is not given to him (God forbid to think that there are any hints of my opponents: I am quite a sane individual, not a brutal sociopath)! The USSR fell because of its penchant for romanticizing and idealizing the human. And because of this same inclination, he did nothing, guided by "selfish motives." So the topic of "Soviet / communist fanaticism / greed / snake cunning / Jewish hatred" and so on. I basically can’t consider nonsense: I would rather believe in the possibility of a perpetual motion machine than in the fact that the "romantic" and the "usurer" can somehow be combined in one whole.
          It’s interesting to argue. But arguing about the meaningless is pointless. So it’s not you who put me on the run, but my deep inner conviction that: a) you and I should be told to spoil my health; b) there is also something to argue about - it definitely should not be ...
      2. Signature
        Signature 10 December 2014 12: 02 New
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        In the USSR, ethnic hatred was not enough precisely because somehow it was not meant that the carriers of some nationality had more merit to world science, for example (and the Jews had a lot of them), while the carriers of some other had less .


        Correct yourself (otherwise it will not be understood very clearly; immediately failed to fix due to communication problems):

        It should be said so:
        In the USSR, ethnic hatred was not enough precisely because it was not meant that carriers of a nationality had more virtues and rights because of greater merits, for example, to world science (and Jews had a lot of them), whereas carriers some other - less.
    2. Koshel2901
      Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 40 New
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      What class are you a buddy in?
  • Stypor23
    Stypor23 10 December 2014 09: 22 New
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    Quote: Smert Nik1
    Quote: combat66
    Aggression against Russia against Georgia ?!


    And why should Israel support Russia if Russia often takes an openly anti-Israeli position?

    A strange thing turns out. Russia allegedly comes out with a frank anti-Israeli position, and trade between the countries is growing, and tourists can’t jamb to Israeli resorts.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 09: 51 New
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      Quote: Stypor23
      A strange thing turns out. Russia allegedly comes out with a frank anti-Israeli position, and trade between the countries is growing, and tourists can’t jamb to Israeli resorts.


      Because we have a very strange relationship. Business online. And in politics, neither Russia nor Israel have changed their position. Cold world.
  • Net
    Net 10 December 2014 09: 39 New
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    That's right, Israel must support the one who pays him - the United States. Will pay the Russian Federation, then we will put forward claims, which they say do not support.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 09: 53 New
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      Quote: Netto
      That's right, Israel must support the one who pays him - the United States. Will pay the Russian Federation, then we will put forward claims, which they say do not support.


      Very reasonable point of view. Here you explain to me why Syria, to which you wrote off several tens of BILLION dollars, does not recognize either Abkhazia, nor South Ossetia, nor Novorossia?
      1. Net
        Net 10 December 2014 17: 47 New
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        But who needs these confessions. There is no longer anything to do with diplomatic curtsies. We do not approve of transferring everything into Syrian money because they are alone opposing the United States and Assad has prevented the holding of another US play about a dictator and unhappy people. I think about the Syrians we would not particularly worry, but it so happened that they became the next arena of the war against us. Now or later, but agree to shoot back from Uncle Sam is better somewhere in Syria than from your own window. Syria will fall then Iran and then maybe God forbid we start.
  • their
    their 10 December 2014 09: 44 New
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    And why should Israel support America when it always led the anti-Israeli line and even fought against Israel (then you sank their ship) and was against the creation of Israel in principle because they had Arabs friends? Friends of America Qataris and KSA sponsors of terrorism on BV sponsors of Hamas (Qatar).
    1. Net
      Net 10 December 2014 10: 14 New
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      Because there are probably even more Jews in the USA than in Israel itself, and because Israel regularly receives money from them. I do not know if the United States fought with the Jewish state, but on international issues, Israel is on the side of the United States, unless of course the essence of the matter is Israel itself.
      1. their
        their 10 December 2014 10: 23 New
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        Quote: Netto
        Because there are probably even more Jews in the USA than in Israel itself, and because Israel regularly receives money from them. I do not know if the United States fought with the Jewish state, but on international issues, Israel is on the side of the United States, unless of course the essence of the matter is Israel itself.


        Money from the USA and Hitler received with joy and Stalin a little, which the Jews so dislike. It will be necessary the Israeli lobby (AIPAC, ADL, WZO etc) in the United States merge the United States. But all the wars in Israel were at the direction of the West, and their puppets in Israel, such as Netanyahu, performed tasks. In addition to the Rabin, whom they killed, he dared to reconcile the region really.
        1. Net
          Net 10 December 2014 10: 50 New
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          Well, the phrase "friends of the United States" is generally an oxymoron, and Israel is no exception. Before the last election, the lobby openly threatened Obama with unsupported supporters. I understand that those who defend Israel, just look at the map to see that Israel does not care about the old accounts of the superpowers of the West and Russia, about some sort of clash in geopolitics, it solves its local and burning problems (if you put ZOG and what else is there smile ) And it’s more logical to get a gesheft and a stop, on the other hand. But we do not like such conformists. When a Jew is absolutely sincerely proud that he is the most intelligent, we are outraged that the cunning in our mind is not accepted. So, maybe Israel currently has a conflict with the Dark Lord, he will not support us anyway.
        2. Egor65g
          Egor65g 10 December 2014 10: 55 New
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          Quote: sus
          But all the wars in Israel were at the behest of the West

          All the wars of Israel were defensive, why are you distorting.
          1. their
            their 10 December 2014 11: 03 New
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            Quote: Egor65G
            Quote: sus
            But all the wars in Israel were at the behest of the West

            All the wars of Israel were defensive, why are you distorting.


            Of course, you’re defensive because you have the IDF Israel Defense Forces, as your propaganda says. And upon the provocation of the Israeli special services, it’s not infrequently Israeli in the interests of the Israeli military-industrial complex and the overseas lobby, against the interests of Israeli citizens, by the way, that is, you. To annex the new Palestinian territories. Everything under the pretext of attacking the "unfortunate", Israel is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
            1. Egor65g
              Egor65g 10 December 2014 17: 35 New
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              Come on you.
              Quote: sus
              And upon the provocation of the intelligence services, it’s not uncommon for Israeli ones in the interests of the Israeli military-industrial complex and the overseas lobby

              Where did the firewood come from? And as for the Palestinian territories, you are right — if this continues — the FYL residents will be forced to build their state in Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, etc.
              It would not be in 48 to start working, and not to start a war.
          2. Koshel2901
            Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 46 New
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            This is the passage !!! (About defense)
          3. andj61
            andj61 10 December 2014 12: 00 New
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            Quote: Egor65G
            All the wars of Israel were defensive, why are you distorting.

            The Suez crisis of 1956 can hardly be called a defensive war. Israel, Great Britain and France attacked Egypt. The USSR and the USA almost simultaneously condemned this aggression, and threatened with retaliatory measures. Aggression immediately ended.
            All other wars are a continuation of this smoldering, but no longer fading conflict.
            And how can the right and the guilty be established in the Arab-Israeli conflict? Jews are right - they returned to their homeland, abandoned in time immemorial. Arabs are right - they were forcibly driven away from this same Motherland. Jews successfully defend their dream they have suffered by the power of their weapons. Arabs also have the right to their state.
            Terrorism, the killing of peaceful only have no excuse!
            1. Egor65g
              Egor65g 10 December 2014 12: 42 New
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              I do not agree.
              The roots of the war for the Suez Canal (and of all the wars of Israel in general) are the attack of the Arab countries, including Egypt, of the 48th year.
              Quote: andj61
              Jews are right - they returned to their homeland, abandoned in time immemorial

              Jews have always been there, despite the fact that a huge part of the current immigrant citizens.
              Quote: andj61
              Arabs are right - they were forcibly driven away from this same Motherland.

              Nobody drove them. Those 6oo thousand (for some reason, having bred for several decades to 10 million) left the country at the request of the governments of the Arab aggressor countries. And there is a lot of evidence to this, up to leaflets in Arabic asking for a while to leave the country, until complete destruction Zionist kafirs.
              Quote: andj61
              Arabs also have the right to their state.

              They have quite a few Arab countries, from where they, in general, appeared on the lands of Judea and Samaria. Take a look:
              http://youtu.be/jauVARIz8ZM
              Quote: andj61
              Terrorism, the killing of peaceful only have no excuse!

              And here I agree. The killing of peaceful Israelis has no excuse!
  • Signature
    Signature 10 December 2014 08: 44 New
    +1
    It’s not convincing that Mikhail fought back

    And how can one be convincing if, when you look at an apple, you acknowledge that it is an apple, but from another, you hear that (it turns out, no!) It is an orange (at least "until the end of today").
    What are you going to agree on with someone who is pathologically lying? After all, there is practically no opportunity to agree - even in theory! Unless, having pressed it to the gallows, you will become - in the order of "discussion" - asking him if he agrees with your humane decision not to hang it. (This will be the only case when his opinion is upfront in your opinion).
  • MAGNET
    MAGNET 10 December 2014 08: 33 New
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    Yes, somehow Leontiev answered in an unflattering way, he didn’t look like him, the man was very literate, smacked of editing, and worthless. And so, well, the jester with them, with everyone. Russia is not the first time, one against all.
  • Magadan
    Magadan 10 December 2014 08: 44 New
    +3
    More and more disappointed in Leontief. He really leaked the whole conversation. As if on purpose. Not a word said that:
    1) The population of Crimea was OPENLY threatened with reprisal; the Maidan Nazi junta came to power.
    2) In Odessa, on May 2, LIVES burned people. On 2 on May the Ukrainian troops launched an assault on Slavyansk. And only after that, Donbass already said - no federalization, only independence, and we will, if necessary, fight.
    3) According to Boeing, one just had to ask the question "if the Russians / militias shot him down, why is the West slowing down the investigation? Why are the British hiding Old from black boxes?"

    I am convinced that However, this is a pseudo-patriotic party. Sixth column. They on their website, in June, deleted posts where they proved the need for support of the Militia, up to the deployment of troops, if necessary. They sang the mantra about "MinersSidyadNaPopa" and "AmericaNasHotTravchit".
    Correctly zamusunuyut article
    1. Signature
      Signature 10 December 2014 10: 15 New
      +1
      You raised the sore topic of the "sixth column" ...
      Late last night, a discussion was broadcast on Channel One (Russian TV, of course). With an already bored - literally on duty - composition of experts.
      The impressions of the first 2-3 minutes of "complicity" were enough to turn off the "blue screen" (solely so as not to break the TV).
      And the monologue of Mr. B. B. Nadezhdin happened to listen. That's where - super-pragmatism with a thick layer of hyper-pragmatism. Appetizingly argued that everyone who, in gratitude, is inferior to America - although they have lost (forgive) their honor and dignity - live gloriously and satisfyingly themselves. And therefore it is imperative for them to imitate: where it is necessary - to bow, where it is necessary - to substitute a cheek for slap in the face (or another part of the body ...).
      Yoke — it turns out to be — can be sweet and desirable. (By the way, some kind of female specificity is visible. Especially dissonant with the “courageous” look of a “strong fist”, which this note-taking and completely shameless “speaker” always seems to me.)
      But this, again excuse my lack of diplomacy, is supposedly the Russian intelligentsia!
      Then there is a barrage of questions: where are the Russians, what happened to them and who replaced their culture ?? .. I think that Russians (now) are not in the best place. And their culture was replaced by the venerable "Western values" (everyone knows what it is: money, money, and again money ...). But I also think that there are other “Russian intellectuals”, but somehow I’m not happy to find them on Russian TV (that's why?).
      1. andj61
        andj61 10 December 2014 10: 58 New
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        Quote: Signatur
        But I also think that there are other “Russian intellectuals”, but somehow I’m not happy to find them on Russian TV (that's why?).

        It's simple - you need to invite someone from the "other" side, otherwise you will get a monologue of ten mouths. They don’t especially go to discuss Ukraine from Kiev, our politicians even beat them up completely, who remains? Nadezhdin, Nikonov - and a few other unforgettable faces.
        1. Signature
          Signature 11 December 2014 05: 19 New
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          QUOTATION: ANDJ61
          It's simple - you need to invite someone from the "other" side ...


          And this is just the main pain point!
          It does not seem to me — and I am not observing these discussions from Russia — it does not seem that they are doing anything good. For example, the refrain repeated "It is necessary / necessary to help New Russia !!" a long time ago - as an acute occasion for deep sarcasm: when will they switch from "theory", so to speak, directly to practice? Or maybe someone else - in the assistants - is called?
          As for the Ukrainian “disputants”, there are also doubts: after all, if you foolishly and foolishly chant many, many, many times, and even with the same voices, this effect will certainly rise (approximately as in the case of Kashpirovsky).
          And then: why invite such outspoken lawyers from the junta from Ukraine (sorry for the bad taste!), Like Karasevs and supposedly journalistic ladies with poetic names (the notorious "olesya" is just a complete female version of a pure cannibal - without an admixture of intelligence and talents!). How is it possible to stand side by side - discussing - with those who directly broadcast that the ATO is a holy cause? By God, except for the banal ... assault - with reference to such speeches - nothing comes to mind (as an adequate reaction).
          By the way, it’s also - a monstrous tactical mistake (with the maximum destructive power!) - to drag such ... "Ukrainians" before the eyes of the Russian audience. After all, looking at them, and I begin to quietly hate everything Ukrainian. After the demonstration - on the Russian TV channels of such “plenipotentiaries of today's Ukraine” - it becomes more than clear why almost 90% of those attending VO simply (sorry, but “you can’t hide it in a bag!”) Become brutal at the word “Ukrainian” ... for just like a German is not equal to a fascist, so a Ukrainian does not mean a Nazi. But the Russian media seems to be helping Ukrainian "brothers" quickly complete someone else's informational "government order" ... Maybe we should think more and more prolongedly to whom and why to provide airtime? After all, maniacs, for example, are also still encountered in our lives. Like so much more ...
  • solovald
    solovald 10 December 2014 09: 11 New
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    It has long been noted that Leontiev is not able to polemize on-line. This interview gave him a head out. Like many talking heads, he is "smart, ironic and even witty" only when he speaks on a prepared site, for example, in "However."
  • The Art of War
    The Art of War 10 December 2014 09: 12 New
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    How did this Israeli (miracle) immediately when I heard about Kolomoisky immediately stand up for the defense, and that Kolomoisky finances punitive battalions that walk under fascist banners here, Israel does not see shame on Israel.
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 09: 58 New
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      Quote: The Art of War
      How did this Israeli (miracle) immediately when I heard about Kolomoisky immediately stand up for the defense, and that Kolomoisky finances punitive battalions that walk under fascist banners here, Israel does not see shame on Israel.


      And the fact that in your center of Moscow there are officially permitted marches under the swastika, the Russian leadership does not want to notice? Israel is not such a big country to interfere with other people's conflicts. We have enough of our conflicts. Kolomoisky - began to serve ukro-fascists who kill Russians? I think that the Russian FSB is able to "cure" this patient without the help of colleagues from Mossad.
      1. The Art of War
        The Art of War 10 December 2014 10: 07 New
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        Mossad would have cured it himself, if your government needed it, from here they support him.
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 34 New
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          Quote: The Art of War
          Mossad would have cured it himself, if your government needed it, from here they support him.


          Logic is on the verge of fiction. But doesn’t it occur to you that the Israeli government, to put it mildly, doesn’t care what is happening in Ukraine? Israel, unlike other, larger countries, is not concerned about resolving all the world's conflicts of others, especially those that occur 3000 km from here. He has enough problems at a much shorter distance.
        2. Egor65g
          Egor65g 10 December 2014 10: 57 New
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          Here are those on! Impeccable logic fellow
          1. Koshel2901
            Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 51 New
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            Really funny.
      2. Koshel2901
        Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 50 New
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        Friend, you are incurable.
  • The Art of War
    The Art of War 10 December 2014 09: 22 New
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    Groysman, Kolomoisky announce the entire list of Jews who unleashed a civil war in Ukraine.
    1. Signature
      Signature 10 December 2014 09: 46 New
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      Alas, the matter is not in the Jews and, in general, not in the national question.
      I think that among the rabid, killing people in the southeast of Ukraine, Russian-speakers of non-Jewish origin prevail.
      Firstly, she spoke and speaks the SINGLE-PREVAILING PART of Ukraine, no matter what Yaytsenyuk and Co. broadcast for this reason.
      And, secondly, ethnic Jews in Ukraine are, nevertheless, a minority. By the way, Goebbels’s grandmother was Jewish too.
      1. The Art of War
        The Art of War 10 December 2014 09: 51 New
        +1
        It is also sad that the Slavs are fighting among themselves, and the Jews profit and laugh, as they kill each other recourse
        1. Smert Nik1
          Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 11 New
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          Quote: The Art of War
          It is also sad that the Slavs are fighting among themselves, and the Jews profit and laugh, as they kill each other


          Every time I write - go to the Duma, enact a law banning Jews from living in Russia.
          1. The Art of War
            The Art of War 10 December 2014 10: 47 New
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            I am for yes confiscate everything and send everyone to their homeland.
            1. Smert Nik1
              Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 16 New
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              Quote: The Art of War
              I will confiscate everything and send everyone back to my homeland.


              So why Russian citizens (and 80% of Russians among them) do not vote for people like you?
              1. The Art of War
                The Art of War 10 December 2014 11: 39 New
                +1
                Have not conducted a survey of citizens on this issue yet.
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 11 New
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                  Quote: The Art of War
                  Have not conducted a survey of citizens on this issue yet.


                  What are you waiting for? Directions from Tel Aviv?
                  1. The Art of War
                    The Art of War 10 December 2014 14: 40 New
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                    No snotty ice.
                    1. Smert Nik1
                      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 16: 43 New
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                      Quote: The Art of War
                      No snotty ice.


                      So go ahead and with the song. Stop chatting and complaining. Do something already.
        2. Signature
          Signature 10 December 2014 10: 55 New
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          QUOTE: The Art of War
          It is also sad that the Slavs are fighting among themselves, and the Jews profit and laugh, as they kill each other


          So in this "strangeness" there is nothing strange, alas. If you do not look at it from the point of view of the so actively proposed - and imposed - "interethnic problems."
          Relations (and not even the first century is far away) are being clarified by those who want justice for everyone (for themselves, of course, also for themselves), and those who want what they themselves appoint as "justice" - exclusively for themselves.
          And among the former, and among the latter, there are Russians, Germans, Ukrainians, Jews, Turks, French ... In general, there are representatives of all and all nationalities.
          A good Russian cannot love a nasty Russian. Because "What for ?!" And where then will be the "bright ideals" if you love?
          Remember that - just thinking about this impossibility - one of the main characters of everything created by Dostoevsky (Ivan Karamazov) lost his mind.
      2. Smert Nik1
        Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 10: 09 New
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        Quote: Signatur
        By the way, Goebbels’s grandmother was Jewish too.


        Yes, in the leadership of the Reich, everyone was Jewish. The Poles are also convinced that if it weren’t for the Jews, Hitler would never attack Poland. It is your psychological defense that works. You were brought up so that the Jews are an absolute evil.
        1. Signature
          Signature 10 December 2014 10: 32 New
          +4
          And you are a true "master" of the debatable "culture" (probably, in this business you already have a "black belt" for a long time?).
          That is, I honestly tell you a well-known fact (about my grandmother ...). And you are right there for me - that I have not only not been told, but not even implied (and not shared).
          That is, easily, effortlessly, so to speak, sculpt a primitive idiot from the enemy and believe that after that he will look at you with respect. And I consider unscrupulous manners to be baseness and not at all a sign of an "elevated" and "insightful" mind.

          By the way, the minus hasn’t fallen off you from me and will not even fall (because in your essence it will NOT change anything FOR ANYTHING!).
          1. Koshel2901
            Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 54 New
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            Well, he has a black belt, you went over it, at best a little darker than white
          2. Smert Nik1
            Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 13: 19 New
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            Quote: Signatur

            And you are a true "master" of the debatable "culture" (probably, in this business you already have a "black belt" for a long time?).

            Only a black bale.

            Quote: Signatur

            That is, I honestly tell you a well-known fact (about my grandmother ...). And you are right there for me - that I have not only not been told, but not even implied (and not shared at the same time).

            Respected. For example, Newton’s laws are also a well-known fact. If I write some nonsense now and ascribe that this is Newton’s law, then you’ll tell about a dozen links (including the same Wikipedia), from which it follows that I froze the nonsense.
            Why do you refuse to provide me with links to your so-called "well-known" fact?
            1. Signature
              Signature 11 December 2014 04: 44 New
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              The culture of communication through quotes, extracts, links, and other “paperwork” is, indeed, familiar to me. But I am unloved and not appreciated (to some extent "curiously"). So do not expect anything like this (for my part).
              And then - I will tell you frankly - it scares me a little ... the maximalism of your attitude to the fact of Goebbels' grandmother's nationality. If this is so vital for you, please, consider this an “enemy libel”! Unfortunately, I can’t take something similar with you: I don’t feel any moral readiness.
        2. andj61
          andj61 10 December 2014 11: 16 New
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          Quote: Smert Nik1
          Yes, in the leadership of the Reich, everyone was Jewish.

          Oh, in vain you are so! this is a well-known and generally accepted fact.
          You better remember the excellent words of the Israeli KVN team:
          All people are Jews, but not all
          Found the strength to confess!
          1. Smert Nik1
            Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 12: 00 New
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            Quote: andj61
            Oh, in vain you are so! this is a well-known and generally accepted fact


            Well, let me show you the Jewish origin of the Reich leadership. I look forward to hearing from you to serious sources.
            1. The Art of War
              The Art of War 10 December 2014 12: 18 New
              +1
              Jewish Hitler Soldiers
              1. The Art of War
                The Art of War 10 December 2014 12: 20 New
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                http://www.rjews.net/gazeta/briman1.shtml
                1. Smert Nik1
                  Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 12: 37 New
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                  Quote: The Art of War
                  http://www.rjews.net/gazeta/briman1.shtml


                  The mythical "Hitler's soldiers"

                  http://vk.com/wall-524993_480654
          2. Signature
            Signature 11 December 2014 04: 50 New
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            QUOTE: It would be better if you remembered the excellent words of the Israeli KVN team ...



            ANDJ61!

            If your remark is not brilliant, then surely somewhere near the brilliant rests!
  • their
    their 10 December 2014 09: 36 New
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    The right sector is led by Jewish Israelis. Birch and Kolomoisky have Israeli citizenship, Birch even lived in Israel. The right-wing sector is comprised mainly of former Israelis, fighters of Tsahal, an instructor. In ukroSMI - Ukrointernet work as Israelis journalists write articles in Russian, since they were taught there. To pit Russians among themselves. There they practiced on the Israelis and Palestinians.

    Therefore, I am not surprised that such personalities as Khodos, Shamir go to Orthodoxy. The complete loss of morality, conscience, and humanity in the face of some characters
    1. Egor65g
      Egor65g 10 December 2014 11: 02 New
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      Quote: sus
      The right-wing sector is comprised mainly of former Israelis, fighters of Tsahal, an instructor.
      -open box, not confirmed by anything. A few morons (which are everywhere) are far from the majority.
      1. their
        their 10 December 2014 11: 13 New
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        Quote: Egor65G
        Quote: sus
        The right-wing sector is comprised mainly of former Israelis, fighters of Tsahal, an instructor.
        -open box, not confirmed by anything. A few morons (which are everywhere) are far from the majority.


        In vain you are so, it’s better to google, I just don’t like to slander. And in Georgia, your unfortunate instructors who wanted to profit were taught the unfortunate Georgian warrior. Google "Israeli instructors in Ukraine", "Israeli right sector."

        http://ukraina.ru/news/20141017/1010848368.html
        1. Egor65g
          Egor65g 10 December 2014 17: 42 New
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          I know that in Ukraine there are citizens of Israel, I came across this on the network. By the way, on both sides, as well as Russian citizens.
          And about Georgia, I strongly disagree with you. Or thousands of Soviet instructors in the Arab countries, who directly fought with the IDF, you also call unfortunate instructors?
      2. Koshel2901
        Koshel2901 10 December 2014 11: 56 New
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        prove it! where are the facts? Only words. Disappointed.
  • viktorrymar
    viktorrymar 10 December 2014 09: 45 New
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    Chet Michael, as a first-grader, he justifies himself, no arguments, no confidence, no facts ...
    negative
  • mehmeh
    mehmeh 10 December 2014 10: 05 New
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    Yes, these are journalists tied to all kinds of funds
    If you don’t sing in the right way, you will not see a career
    And they are guided by the United States and not by Israel that they have this Israel so a place to start in a big world under the wing of a big dad
  • their
    their 10 December 2014 10: 10 New
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    Channel 9 of Israel belongs to media magnate Alexander Levin, lives in Moscow next to the "tyrant" Putin. And no one, after all, tells him to change the channel’s rhetoric to pro-Russian, complete democracy. Lives itself in Moscow, the channel craps on Moscow in Israel, lyapota.
    1. bmv04636
      bmv04636 10 December 2014 10: 29 New
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      Well, the manza’s ear belongs to Gazprom, in contrast to the West, nevertheless, democracy.
      1. their
        their 10 December 2014 10: 49 New
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        I would say democracy is on the brink when anti-state notes often come up. This must be stopped, it will not bring to good. I am surprised at the patience of our citizens. I think in another country such a channel would have been closed and done right.
    2. Turkir
      Turkir 10 December 2014 11: 50 New
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      The channel, judging by Dubov’s level, is for people with Alzheimer's disease and hearing loss.
  • kotyara1963
    kotyara1963 10 December 2014 11: 05 New
    +1
    The slogan of Bandera: "Beat the Jews and her!" Notice the "Jews" first!
    1. Smert Nik1
      Smert Nik1 10 December 2014 11: 34 New
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      Quote: kotyara1963
      The slogan of Bandera: "Beat the Jews and her!" Notice the "Jews" first!


      Dear, in 1941, Bandera alive buried my grandmother’s sister in the West. Ukraine. Believe that we remember this very well.
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  • NiWar
    NiWar 10 December 2014 11: 28 New
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    The wildcard interview format, of course, is suitable for programs such as Morning of Russia, but certainly not for serious conversation.
    But volleys of hail from the territory of the city - this, of course, is not very.
  • iner
    iner 10 December 2014 11: 31 New
    +2
    Mikhail Leontiev, definitely a plus.
    But to this journalist, if I may say so, I would recommend to go to Kiev to hint where he came from in front of those Bandera who are not there by the Nazis. And do not carry any fumbles in front of the camera.
  • sgapich
    sgapich 10 December 2014 12: 16 New
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    Something to me the facial expressions of this "journalist" resembles Zelensky’s tricks.
  • Magamed
    Magamed 10 December 2014 12: 47 New
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    Dmitry Dubov, a provocateur, a yapping mongrel of the State Department working out a bone thrown to him from the master’s table, Kololomoisky, Dubov, Parashenko, the list of Jews thinking in this way and forgetting the ghettos of their own nation is huge, such money is the main value, for the sake of benefits they wanted to spit on all Jews including mother
  • gre4any
    gre4any 10 December 2014 12: 58 New
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    Why Leontyev, being a citizen of a country that is not a party to the conflict, should answer such questions. Even a professional like Leontyev can be reduced to shaking by such statements of the question. What to say about ordinary citizens. Paradokas: having asked some nonsense, a person should reasonably answer this. “One fool can ask so many questions that one hundred wise men will not be able to answer them.” V.I. Lenin.
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 10 December 2014 13: 34 New
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    I think everything is much simpler here, we are just talking about the destruction of Russia as a state (and the present Jew does not give a damn who Bandera is), they are ready to cooperate even with the devil, even with whom, the most important thing is result.
    А resultthe liquidation of Russia as an independent power.
    With the help of people like them, the Soviet Union was already destroyed, but it turned out to be small. The country still withstood and began to gain, if not the past, but also quite significant power.
    And this is simply a “disaster” for them, these “figures” from the USA, Israel and the EU want us to eke out a “miserable” existence (preferably in a very fragmented form), they do not need a strong Russia, they need our resources.
    From here comes the war in Ukraine and again, as in the collapse of the USSR, at the head of this fascist junta, Jews + local traitors and nationalists.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 10 December 2014 20: 19 New
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      Although there is such an opinion:
      Stefan Bandera - baptized Jew, Uniate. Greek Catholic from the village of Old Ugryniv near Kalush, born during the Austro-Hungarian rule in Galicia. His father, Adrian Bandera, is a Greek Catholic from the philistine family of Mikhail and Rosalia (nee Glodzinskaya, nationality is a Polish Jew) Bander. Stefan (Stefan) was the second child after Martha's older sister. His surname (which modern nationalists translate as a "banner") in Yiddish means: Bander - "holder of the brothel."
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 10 December 2014 20: 31 New
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        You can read about his "exploits" here:
        http://ujnoruss.com/index.php/statishchi/tajny-proshlogo/642-stepan-bandera-dush
        itel-kotov
        And the fact that now the fascist government in Ukraine, led by their president Poroshenko (Valtsman), praises the fanatic killer Bandera is not at all surprising.
  • mamont5
    mamont5 10 December 2014 13: 37 New
    +1
    They speak different languages. Do not understand...
  • Egor65g
    Egor65g 10 December 2014 13: 41 New
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    And here's what interests me.

    The Egyptian military is preparing a large-scale operation against terrorist organizations in Gaza.
    This was announced in an interview with the Palestinian Agency IAAN by a representative of the Egyptian security forces.
    According to him, the Egyptian Air Force aircraft made aerial photographs of Gaza to identify possible targets of the attack.
    In recent days, the contradictions between Hamas in Gaza and the military junta that seized power in Cairo have sharply intensified.
    On October 2, General Ahmad Wasfi, commander of the Second Army, declared that "the patience of the Egyptian military had fallen," and threatened to launch a military operation against the jihadists of Gaza.


    The Egyptians evicted the FILYSTIN people from hundreds of houses, destroyed residential neighborhoods 500 meters deep into the gases. Almost daily wet in the toilet Hamasnikov, not going into details — are they peaceful or not peaceful.
    And where are all the European defenders of the poor and oppressed fILYSTINS? And where are the lovers to condemn Israel AgraEsiya from this site? Huh?
    Now imagine instead of the word Egypt-Israel.
    I think the number of comments with convictions would easily have exceeded one thousand.
  • Zymran
    Zymran 10 December 2014 14: 23 New
    +1
    Leontiev was blown away, this is not a photoshopped airplanes on TV show
  • padded jacket
    padded jacket 10 December 2014 15: 40 New
    +1
    And the fact that local Israelis accuse those who disagree with them of “fascism” and anti-Semitism is a laugh at all - what is the only law passed in their Knesset on recognizing Israel as a state the Jews, that is, the states of only one nation, and they want to adopt such a law in the country where the people "affected by Nazism" live. So do not listen to their "tales" about bad Russians and "good" Jews.
  • Straight
    Straight 10 December 2014 22: 45 New
    +2
    Who was attacked? On the Russian population of Donbass. Who attacked? The answer is the Nazis, Bandera, lovers of the swastika. Russia's duty to protect Russians in Ukraine! Why debt? Because the Russians in Ukraine are not newcomers, this is their original land and no one has the right to shoot them and expel them from their land! Well, because it is the Russian people who are looking at us and waiting for help ...
  • tilix
    tilix 11 December 2014 09: 01 New
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    You underestimate you Leontiev. Having gone into the trap, with losses, but managed to escape. A trap is magnificent, no matter the question, a pearl. Dmitry Dubov is a pro of the highest class. BEAUTY. I usually don’t watch the 9 channel, but there is something in this correspondent.
  • Gavrohs
    Gavrohs 11 December 2014 15: 38 New
    +2
    smeared-shout !!! good Israeli journalism, she is curious, do not lie in her mouth! If you agreed to an interview, please be prepared hi Ernst will not be pleased however.
  • RyazanVDV
    RyazanVDV 11 December 2014 23: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: Smert Nik1
    Naturally, I made your comment so that everyone would appreciate your love for the Russians.
    “With the analysis of what you read, you also have problems. I wrote that the Russians left on their own and, accordingly, could not even“ extrude ”anyone because of the fact that they emigrated themselves .."
    Yeah, we left! You’ll leave such a life, we don’t need to tell us about the “voluntary” departure. Of course he will be voluntary! As one grandfather of the Kazakh used to say: Why do you want to buy a house from a Russian, wait, soon it will be yours for free ...
    Let me give you the story of one colleague, he strongly hooked me in due time. I have to say right away that he was drinking pretty much, but I have no doubt at all about the veracity of this story, he fled from Kazakhstan with his wife and mother-in-law, leaving ALL in addition to what could be taken away in his hands. One thing was said about special cases, Kazakhs-youth are walking around the city, they have fun, they see the face of a representative of the Europioid race and they slaughter like a dog in a crowd or cut.
    But the main thing in the story was not at all that. The main thing is what was the first thought he had when moving to Russia. Everything is casual and simple: to arrive at the arrival of the Astana-Moscow train at the intermediate station Ryazan, yank the first Kazakh woman and kill him, just fill up without explanation. This is called HATE, it is not born just like that, you need to be able to bring a person to that. Moreover, I saw his eyes, it was not a drunken bravud, not a psychosis of an Afghan veteran, it was a cold, fierce HATE, and knowing his level of special training, he could very well "leave cleanly."
    By the way, the brother and father of his wife were killed in Kazakhstan in the beginning of the 90s, they were ethnic Germans.
    No need to tell that the Russians left on their own, no one supposedly touched them. I admit that everywhere it was different, depending on the specific place of residence. But such stories are full. They squeezed out Russians from all the former Central Asian republics of the USSR, and Kazakhstan is no exception.
  • Roman_999
    Roman_999 13 December 2014 02: 18 New
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    It's good that he interrupted the conversation, I see no reason to say objective things in response to stupid patterns.