Cheers, field marshal!

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Cheers, field marshal!


220 years ago, 30 in November 1794, Empress Catherine II awarded the great Russian military leader Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov with the rank of Field Marshal. This was done after the final suppression of the Polish uprising against Russia and the storming of Warsaw, where Suvorov played a key role. After the Russian troops entered the capitulation of Warsaw, Suvorov, in his laconic style, said: “Hurray! Warsaw is ours! ”The empress replied:“ Hurray! Field Marshal Suvorov! "

Polish uprising and liquidation of the Commonwealth

Russian-Turkish war 1787 — 1791 made Alexander Suvorov a national hero. The defeat of the Turkish assault at Kinburn, the battle of Focsani and Rymnik, the assault of Ishmael boomed all over Europe. For his victory in the Rymnik, Suvorov was elevated to the count of dignity by the Empress Catherine II with the name of Rymnik, received the diamond signs of the St. Andrew Order, the Order of St.. George 1 degree and other awards.

But then, instead of awards, Suvorov was in the favor of the omnipotent Potemkin, as he spoke very boldly about his deeds. Suvorov hoped for the assault of Ishmael to obtain the rank of Field Marshal, but Potemkin offered to award him with a medal and the rank of guard lieutenant colonel. As a result, the commander was awarded a medal, and he became a lieutenant colonel in the Preobrazhensky regiment. Suvorov saw himself in the honorable link. He was sent to command an insignificant auxiliary corps in Finland. Victory of Russian troops Potemkin said in St. Petersburg without a commander, whose victories decided the outcome of the war.

After the death of Potemkin, Russian troops in the south led Rumyantsev. True, he refused such an honor (earlier Potemkin pushed the old commander from the leadership of the troops). When a new uprising began in Poland, and the empress moved troops to Poland, Suvorova was again refused. Small intrigues pursued Suvorov. He was transferred to the commander of the troops in southern Russia, where he was ordered to guard the Turkish border. Suvorov was engaged in the fortification of the left bank in the lower reaches of the Dniester, on his orders the fortress Medium and the city of Tiraspol were built, fortifications were built in Khadzhibei (Odessa).

Only the aggravation of events in Poland made Petersburg call Suvorov again. Polish statehood during this period was at the peak of its decay (more in a series of articles Decomposition of Polish statehood. Kosciuszko Uprising; Part of 2; Part of 3; Part 4). Poland, due to the degradation of its “elite”, was under the strong influence of external forces - Russia, Prussia and Austria. Catherine II proposed in Poland 1787 to enter into an alliance with Russia, directed against Turkey. The benefits of this union were enormous. Poland was offered money for the maintenance of the Polish auxiliary corps (the troops promised to contain several years after the war with Turkey), trade privileges and Turkish lands in Podolia and Moldova. Thus, Poland could, at the Russian expense, form the core of an efficient army, gain land in the south, strengthen the economy at the expense of trade privileges. Russia, entering into an alliance with Poland, in fact, guaranteed its immunity from the territorial claims of Prussia and Austria. There was a chance for the transformation of Poland into a friendly Russian Slavic state.

However, this union was blocked by Prussia and the Polish "elite". Frederick William II of Prussia, who feared the gain of Russia and Austria during the war with Turkey, promised the Polish Sejm an alliance, guarantees of independence, freedom and security of Poland. The Polish gentry preferred to believe Prussia. The centuries-old hostility towards Russia and the illusion that the Western powers will completely disinterestedly support the Poles against the Russians played their part.

The French Revolution also played its part. The Polish gentry, not understanding the essence of the events taking place in France, began to imitate the French revolutionaries. Polish gentlemen were embraced by the idea of ​​introducing a new constitution. In May, 1791 announced the introduction of a new constitution in Warsaw. In fact, it was a coup d'état.

In Petersburg, at first, they reacted rather calmly to the coup. However, seeing the danger of the situation, Petersburg changed its attitude. Poland raged dangerously. Pans led the country to a new internecine war. The persecution of dissidents (the so-called Orthodox and Protestants) was intensified. Many offended tycoons began to offer St. Petersburg to create a confederation (in the Commonwealth so called temporary military-political associations of the nobility) to restore the old constitution. In the summer of 1792, the Russian army was introduced to Poland. At the same time, a confederation was established in the town of Targowice to fight King Stanislav, who supported the new constitution. Empress Catherine II, successfully completing the war with the Ottoman Empire, took Targovic confederates under her patronage. In Poland, war broke out between supporters of the new constitution and the Targowitz Confederation. The Prussian king Friedrich Wilhelm II, in fact, deceived the hopes of the Polish gentry and took the side of Russia.

Russian troops occupied Vilna, where another was created - the Lithuanian Confederation to restore the old constitution. Russian troops also occupied Grodno and Lublin. The Polish army under the command of Joseph Poniatowski, Tadeusz Kosciuszko and Zayonchka was defeated and retreated to Bug. Many supporters of the new constitution fled the country, and the king joined the Targowitz Confederation. In January 1793, Prussia and Russia signed the convention on the second partition of Poland. Russia received the West Russian lands (a significant part of modern Belarus and Left-Bank Ukraine). Prussia was ceded to the western part of Poland, including the Danzig District. Austria did not participate in this section. In July, 1793 in Grodno signed a Russo-Polish agreement on the refusal of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for all eternity from the lands indicated in the agreement.

The Russian government was satisfied with the second section of the Commonwealth and wanted peace and stability in the rest of Poland. Russia had other serious tasks than the new partition of Poland. Petersburg was advantageous to have a buffer on the borders with Prussia. But in Poland there was no peace and could not be. Polish gentlemen hated Russia and dreamed of revenge. Given the military-economic potential of the Commonwealth and its internal decomposition, to fight in its position was suicide. However, the gentry did not care. The Polish gentlemen with their egoism, passion for adventures and entertainment destroyed the great power and brought Poland to a logical end - suicide.

A group of very dark personalities conspired and elected popular general T. Kostyushko as their leader. He fought during the War of Independence, received the rank of general, returning to Poland, joined the army of Joseph Potocki. For lack of other talented generals, Kosciusko became a national hero. Kostiushko enlisted the support of France and led the uprising.

The first was General Madalinsky, who refused to submit to the decision of the Grodno Seym and disband his cavalry brigade in Ostrolenka. Polish rebels crossed the Prussian border, occupied the city of Soldau, where they seized the treasury of Prussian troops. Grabbing money, Madalinsky fled to Poland and moved to Krakow. Kostyushko hurried there. 16 March 1794 in Krakow Kosciuszko was appointed commander in chief and handed over dictator powers. Riots broke out in different parts of Poland and Lithuania.

4 April 1794, a detachment of Tormasov, sent to suppress the insurrection of Madalinsky, was forced to retreat, and threw all the weapons. This small tactical victory caused rejoicing throughout Poland. 17 April began the Warsaw uprising, which ended in a massacre. Part of the Russian garrison was slaughtered. Most of the Russian garrison with bayonets made their way from Warsaw. Synchronously, the uprising began in Vilna. The Poles suddenly attacked the Russian garrison. Part of the garrison was killed or captured. Others broke out of the city.

Kosciusko with the title of Generalissimo announced a general mobilization and gathered a large army, but she was poorly armed. Prussia sent troops to Poland. The Prussians occupied Krakow and began to prepare for the assault on Warsaw, but an uprising of the Poles in the rear (in Wielkopolska, in areas not long before attached to Prussia) forced the Prussian king to withdraw its troops back. The Austrians also entered troops in Poland, occupied Krakow, Sandomierz and Chelm, but this was limited. In Vienna, they believed that they secured participation in the new section and did not intend to fight seriously.

The main command of Russian troops, Catherine II commissioned Count Rumyantsev. The old and sick commander made the first and last decision, summoning Suvorov to Poland without the sanction of the empress. Only in hindsight, Catherine wrote: "I sent two armies to Poland - one real, the other Suvorov." “Let's go and show how the Poles are beaten!” Suvorov exclaimed. In August, he performed with 8-th. squad from Nemirov, and made 560 versts in 20 days, moving along difficult roads.

4 September Suvorov defeated the Polish detachment Ruzic near Kobrin. September 6 Suvorov at Krupchich, in the area of ​​Kobrin, knocked over selected 16-thousand. Corps Serakovsky. The best Polish units, well-armed and equipped, fought desperately. However, Suvorov, with bayonet attacks of his miracle warriors, defeated the Polish troops. Serakovsky retreated to Brest. September 8 near Brest-Litovsk Suvorov completed the rout of Serakovsky’s corps. Virtually the entire corps was destroyed. The remains of the Poles fled to Warsaw. The news of the appearance of Suvorov and his invincible army greatly demoralized Polish units. Kosciusko personally traveled to Serakovsky and generously rewarded the survivors. At the same time, he issued an order to shoot alarmists and create parts with guns to shoot the fleeing.

Understanding that it was necessary to keep the initiative, Kostyushko decided to attack General Ferzen’s Russian detachment and prevent him from joining with Suvorov. September 29 (October 10) The 1794 of the year in the battle of Maceiowitz Ferzen and Denisov's troops defeated Kosciusko. The Polish dictator himself was captured.

Suvorov, having attached the detachments of Fersen and Derfelden, moved to Warsaw. October 15 Russian troops near the village Kobylka defeated the squad of Mayen. October 22 Russian troops reached Prague - a heavily fortified suburb of Warsaw, which was located on the right bank of the Vistula. The forces were approximately equal: 20-30 thousand Poles with 104 guns (according to other data - 200), about 25 thousand Russians with 86 guns. October 24 during a fierce battle, which killed up to 10-15 thousand Poles, the Russian troops took Prague. The capture of Kosciuszko and the terrible assault on Prague paralyzed the will of the majority of the rebels. Warsaw surrendered. As a result, the sword of Alexander Suvorov completed history Commonwealth

A new feat put Suvorov above the rest of the generals. "Hooray! Warsaw is ours! ”He wrote to the empress. "Hooray! Field Marshal! ”Replied Ekaterina. The rank of field marshal and estate in 7 thousand souls became the commander's award. He was also awarded the Prussian Orders of the Black and Red Eagles, and the Austrian emperor sent his portrait to Suvorov.

Suvorov extremely graciously reacted to the remaining rebels, gave them the opportunity to return to a peaceful life. After the capitulation of Warsaw and the amnesty announced by Suvorov, almost all rebel troops throughout Poland laid down during the week weapon. A few detachments were still partisan for some time, but soon they also surrendered, or fled abroad.

Polish King Stanislav Augustus abdicated the throne and went to Grodno, and then to St. Petersburg. The Polish state was liquidated. October 24 1795 in Petersburg was signed by the trilateral Russian-Prussian-Austrian convention on the third section of the Commonwealth. The three powers mutually guaranteed each other new possessions obtained during the division of the Polish state, up to and including military support in the event that any third parties were attempted to attack these possessions or attempts to restore Poland. Warsaw, including the Right Bank of the Vistula, remained behind Prussia, and Krakow behind Austria. The territories that became part of the Russian Empire were divided into three provinces — Kurland, Vilna, and Grodno. In general, during the three sections of the Commonwealth of Russia, Russia received the Russian lands, which were previously part of the Russian state. Only Belostok Okrug departed Prussia, and Galicia Austria. Indigenous Polish lands inhabited by ethnic Poles, moved Prussia and Austria.

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  1. +31
    29 November 2014 05: 27
    Vivat !!! to General Marshal Suvorov!
    1. +43
      29 November 2014 08: 15
      Suvorov and Holy Righteous Admiral Ushakov are the only commanders who did not lose battles.
      The question is raised about the canonization of Suvorov.

      There was confidence among the soldiers that Suvorov knew God's plan and always acted on it;
      In 1771, Suvorov wrote: these men soldierly dresses taught me some prayers. So they suspected and knew that in all matters God was with them and rushed to honesty;
      A service was sent almost daily to Lent in his rooms, and he served there as a clerk, and sang on the choir;
      For Suvorov, the enemy was an enemy until he laid down his arms, then he says to the conquered, forgive them, they are the same people - it’s a sin to kill in vain, these are words from his military catechism.
      And the “tricks” of the Generalissimo were mostly strange for the most part in contacts with the upper world, by that time (as now) watered, with a desecrated consciousness, struck by “advanced” Western ideas and therefore incapable of perceiving the Russian Spirit in any other way!

      Suvorov’s spiritual asceticism is that axis around which the Suvorov MIRACLE thundered all over the world, unfolding in all its beauty and power.
      “God is our general,” he taught the soldier. - “Atheism swallows the states and sovereigns, faith, rights and customs”, “Pray to God! from Him is victory. Wonderful heroes! God leads us; He is our general ”(“ The Science of Victory ”).
      Is it not here the basis of his victories and victories of Russia !!!
      1. Gur
        +19
        29 November 2014 09: 05
        I completely agree, and Suvorov and Ushakov are people whose role in the military history of Russia is difficult to overestimate
        1. +26
          29 November 2014 09: 22
          The Russian army at the time of Suvorov differed from the vast majority of other armies in that it was uniform in its national composition.
          This was Russian military art, and Suvorov himself, like no other, was a Russian commander and a Russian person. “I am proud that I am Russian,” he often said, and in his mouth it was not an empty phrase.

          In the difficult days of the Swiss campaign, when, due to the fault of the Austrians, the Suvorov corps found themselves in a critical situation and there seemed to be no chance of salvation, Suvorov did not lose his presence of mind. Casting aside the very idea of ​​surrender, he outlined at the military council his plan to get out of the environment, did not hide incredible difficulties, but expressed confidence in overcoming them:
          “We are Russians ... we will all overcome,” he said; and these few words contained pride and faith in the Russian army.
          1. +8
            29 November 2014 10: 09
            The Russian army at the time of Suvorov differed from the vast majority of other armies in that it was uniform in its national composition.
            In addition, we must add here that the army was formed on the principle of fraternity, that is, Novgorod, Tula regiments, battalions, etc. I hope no one needs to explain that people from one place of residence are much more friendly.
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        2. +3
          29 November 2014 16: 32
          he ordered the execution of alarmists and the creation of parts with guns to shoot the fleeing.
          The detachments were invented by the Kosciuszko Pole. Generalissimo
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      3. +13
        29 November 2014 10: 17
        Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov was a very educated person. He studied all his life, knew many foreign languages. Eternal glory to Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov !!!
      4. +6
        29 November 2014 18: 27
        General Skobelev also did not lose a single battle! What is he carved on the monument: equal to Suvorov!
    2. +1
      29 November 2014 10: 05
      Glory to the greatest commander of all time (from my point of view in military art, only Julia Caesar and Alexander the Great could compare with Suvorov)
      1. xan
        +2
        29 November 2014 21: 48
        Quote: Sergei1982
        Glory to the greatest commander of all time (from my point of view in military art, only Julia Caesar and Alexander the Great could compare with Suvorov)

        Suvorov never led the company the way he wanted to, but it would be interesting to see. Someone always stood over him. Caesar and Macedon led the company themselves as they wanted, and no one was above them.
    3. VSC
      +6
      29 November 2014 12: 34
      Hurray, to GENERALLISIMUS Suvorov Alexander Vasilyevich !!!
      1. wk
        +4
        30 November 2014 02: 49
        Quote: VSK
        Hurray, to GENERALLISIMUS Suvorov Alexander Vasilyevich !!!

        Generalissimo Paul assigned him the first!
        1. 0
          30 November 2014 03: 14
          Quote: wk
          Generalissimo Paul assigned him the first!
          For the Italian campaign ... and here's what the troops of Suvorov were gifted with ...
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    5. +1
      29 November 2014 13: 49
      So it turns out the first detachments came up with the Poles? Forever they are under the feet of everyone confused and pull away that falls from other warring parties. Pure jackals!
    6. -11
      29 November 2014 15: 08
      O rebellion of Kosciuszko.
      It was a Lithuanian (Belarusian) -Polish uprising.
      Historical Lithuania is BelaRus.
      And present-day Lithuania, or as they say in BelaRusi-Lituva, which at that time was called Gimontia, was then a shallow outskirts of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania
      A WILFLY is the ancient capital of the GRAND PRINCIPLE OF THE LITHUANIAN-BELARUSIAN STATE.
      LITHUANIA (i.e., BelaRUS has been waging war with Moscow Russia for 80 years).
      Kosyushko was a Lithuanian (i.e., BELARUS) As a result of the suppression of the BelaRus Uprising
      (i.e., THE GREAT PRINCIPLE OF LITHUANIA became actually a colony of the Russian Empire.
      1. usinsk 71
        0
        29 November 2014 16: 07
        read everything with interest ..... thanks.
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      3. 0
        29 November 2014 16: 48
        In Russian history, the concept of a colony or colony does not occur, but there is subjugation or accession. In my opinion, these are different concepts
      4. +2
        29 November 2014 20: 18
        = BonOleg "Kosyushko was a Lithuanian (ie BELARUS) As a result of the suppression of the Belarussian Uprising
        (that is, the GRAND DUKHOOD OF LITHUANIA actually became a colony of the Russian Empire. "
        Change our flag to Polish please.))) And do not disgrace our flag with your Polish delirium.)))
      5. Cat
        +4
        29 November 2014 21: 54
        Oleg, with all due respect, does not agree. The territory of Lithuania and White Russia was a single state entity in the period of 14-16 centuries. In addition, perhaps this gave impetus to the mixing of the historical concepts of Lithuania and Belarus. For example, at the time of dawn, the Grand Duchy of Russia and Lithuania included not only the territories of Belarus, Lithuania and the north-east of Ukraine, but also a number of Russian and Polish regions. And it was rapprochement with the Catholic Poland that discredited the Russo-Lithuanian principality as a collector of Russian Orthodox lands. It served not only as an impulse for the outflow of the population, but also territorial and political losses. All this made it possible to strengthen the Moscow principality. As an example, pay attention to who from the time of Dmitry Donskoy flees to Muscovy. The elite of the Principality of Lithuania: Voivode Borok with his neighbors, Glinsky and many others. Naturally, the eastern territories of Lithuania in the course of 200 years pass into the possession of Russia, with virtually no blood. And only the north-west, which was asymmetrified with Poland, is resisting and counteracting. Moreover, it must be recognized that this was not a opposition of the people of Belorussia but a gentry, the catholic elite. History has no syllable. And at present, the capital of Russia is Moscow. But again, but, if not the unification of Poland and Lithuania at the time of Jagiello and Vivovat, maybe the capital of Russia would be Minsk or Polotsk, or maybe Smolensk.
        PS. The seal of the Grand Duke Alexander Nevsky was Pogoniya, currently the coat of arms of Lithuania, and from 1993 to 1995 and Belarus. and until the 14th century the press of Moscow and Lithuania were the same - a horseman with a saber.
        1. +1
          30 November 2014 17: 33
          Cat ": Voivode Borok with neighbors, Glinski and many others."
          Maybe the governor was a beaver? Nicknamed Volynsky? But Glinsky is still not Glinsky?))))
          1. Cat
            +1
            30 November 2014 17: 51
            To blame, typing on the phone in the subway in fits and starts at stops. In addition, I messed up something with an account and can not fix my mistakes.
      6. +2
        30 November 2014 03: 26
        Quote: BonOleg
        It was a Lithuanian (Belarusian) -Polish uprising.
        In order to argue so, it is necessary to name the lands on which that war was fought and specifically who participated in it. At the INITIAL stage - YES, the uprising was more or less general, but very quickly it split very strongly, Kosciuszko, with his "Jacobins" - separately, magnates, with their detachments separately and most of the peasants, especially in the eastern regions, the same separately. It is no secret that it was the peasants who helped the tsarist troops to catch the rebels.
      7. 0
        1 December 2014 12: 14
        The principality of Tver for more than 150 years rivaled Moscow Russia and constantly fought, but no one says that Tver was occupied by the Russian Empire.
        In addition, the Orthodox state of Lithuanian Russia existed as a stage of Russian statehood in general, and it existed much earlier than the appearance of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which confirms the delusional nature of the colonization of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania by the Russian Empire.

        The facts speak of something else, that Livonia, Courland, Poland and Finland had privileges in the Russian Empire, such as their own self-government and even the army.
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    7. Denis fj
      +1
      29 November 2014 16: 18
      The capture of Warsaw on October 24–25, 1794 by Russian troops under the command of General A.V. Suvorov (22 thousand people). The capital of Poland was defended by the army under the command of General J. Zionchek (20 thousand people). The fate of the city was decided by the assault on October 24, during which the Russians took a well-fortified position in the capital's suburbs - Prague.

      The attack began at five in the morning. The attackers acted swiftly. This made it difficult for the Polish command to make decisions on the situation, which was changing every minute. The battle was distinguished by great tenacity and bloodshed. The Russian soldiers, remembering the massacre of their comrades in Warsaw six months ago, did not give mercy to anyone. “Every step on the street covered was beaten; all areas were covered with bodies, ”A.V. recalled the battle Suvorov.

      The loss of Polish troops on the day of the assault amounted to about 20 thousand people. (including 11 thousand prisoners). Suvorov released his prisoners (including 18 generals) on parole. Russian losses amounted to about 1,5 thousand. After the capture of Prague, Warsaw surrendered. A message about the capture of the city Suvorov sent to Catherine II in the traditional concise form for him: “Hurray! Our Warsaw! ” “Hurray, Field Marshal!” - answered Catherine. For taking the Polish capital, Suvorov received the rank of Field Marshal
    8. 0
      30 November 2014 20: 03
      Vivat, Field Marshal !!!
  2. +22
    29 November 2014 05: 28
    The famous commander of all time - three times Hurray!
  3. +11
    29 November 2014 06: 03
    Great Russian Commander Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov-Rymnik URA-URA-URA !!!
    1. 0
      29 November 2014 16: 39
      Great Russian Commander Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov-Rymnik URA-URA-URA !!!
      Not only to Count Rymniksky, but also to Prince Izmail smile
  4. +15
    29 November 2014 06: 09
    The greatest commander of all time !!!!!!!!!
  5. +7
    29 November 2014 06: 11
    Generalissimo - Hooray, Hooray, Hooray !!!!!
    1. +1
      29 November 2014 07: 08
      Quote: tanit
      Generalissimo - Cheers
      There were two of them in the entire history of Russia - Suvorov and Stalin. Each is great in its own way.
      1. +16
        29 November 2014 07: 50
        You are not right. Stalin was the state leader. As a military leader, he didn’t really show himself. But Suvorov is still the commander. And put them next to not comme il faut. Although everyone has written himself in the story. hi
        1. +2
          29 November 2014 18: 57
          Still, Suvorov did not organize industrial production during the war. So Stalin is Stalin. And Suvorov - Suvorov.
      2. 0
        29 November 2014 10: 11
        By all rules, only Suvorov received the title of generalissimo (let's not attribute Stalin here; he’s a politician and organizer, but not like a military commander)
        1. 0
          30 November 2014 21: 50
          The present North Korean baby is also generalissimo and cho? He can. And also after the Second World War, Josip Broz Tito called himself Generalissimo. Another warrior!
      3. Fin
        +4
        29 November 2014 10: 26
        Quote: Nagan
        There were two of them in the entire history of Russia - Suvorov and Stalin. Each is great in its own way.

        And the governor Shein, Menshikov?
        1. -2
          29 November 2014 10: 46
          And the governor Shein, Menshikov?
          Yes, they were awarded these titles, but they were not awarded according to all the rules, and besides, if Menshshikov had at least some achievement, then Shein, to be honest, was not given seriously for Azov.
        2. 0
          29 November 2014 16: 42
          And the governor Shein, Menshikov?
          Respect for your knowledge of history hi
      4. xan
        +1
        29 November 2014 21: 57
        Quote: Nagan
        There were two of them in the entire history of Russia - Suvorov and Stalin. Each is great in its own way.

        Stalin is a separate issue, there is more the genius of a statesman.
        But Suvorov, in my opinion, had a rival, Rumyantsev. Rumyantsev has solid victories in his track record, and innovations in infantry and cavalry tactics. In many ways, high-profile victories over the best European warriors by the Prussians at Gross-Jegersdorf and Kunersdorf are due to units under the command of the young Rumyantsev. But he had no mystical power over his soldiers. Before the battles, Suvorov soldiers knew and had no doubt on whose side the victory would be.
  6. -7
    29 November 2014 06: 12
    Choi, somehow everything that Suvorov "did" for Russia from the point of view of modern times can be compared with the actions of Strelkov ... Ah ... no .. recourse
    1. +7
      29 November 2014 07: 54
      Well, you have no comparison ... no words.
      With whom else generalissimo povenyaete? With motorola?
      Suvorov worked (without quotes) the victorious history of the Russian state.

      Forgive me, of course, but I, as a graduate of the Suvorov School, are offended that my generalissimo and the winner are equated with this ... a passionate loser.
      1. nvv
        nvv
        0
        29 November 2014 08: 07
        Quote: Banshee
        equate with this ... an outrageous loser

        Bravo Roman !!! For a long time I’ve been trying to convey this to the forum users, but it’s somehow softer, otherwise the fans will take hostility. And the shot will be idle. And you on the forehead. Butt and to the point.
        1. xan
          +1
          30 November 2014 15: 39
          Quote: nvv
          Quote: Banshee
          equate with this ... an outrageous loser

          Bravo Roman !!! For a long time I’ve been trying to convey this to the forum users, but it’s somehow softer, otherwise the fans will take hostility. And the shot will be idle. And you on the forehead. Butt and to the point.

          Strelkov went down in history from a worthy position; he is already a legend. And don’t have to behave like pugs
          1. nvv
            nvv
            0
            1 December 2014 18: 48
            Quote: xan
            Strelkov went down in history from a worthy position; he is already a legend. And don’t have to behave like pugs

            Well, time will judge who is who. By the way, the pugs impress me more. They know their place. But when a healthy male pulls its tail, it’s disgusting
            1. xan
              0
              2 December 2014 13: 24
              Quote: nvv
              But when a healthy male tightens its tail, it's disgusting

              This is how I understand the judgment of the pug. Pull the tail from the side of the pug - this is actually to organize effective armed resistance to ukrovoyok. Oh well.
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      3. +3
        29 November 2014 14: 35
        Quote: Banshee
        my generalissimo and the winner are equated with this ... outrageous loser.


        Of course, these are incomparable values. And what about the "loser" - maybe, tell me, who's there - SUCCESSFUL? And are there chances to be successful in principle, given the summer treacherous policy of a big neighbor?
      4. -2
        29 November 2014 16: 32
        Quote: Banshee
        as a graduate of the Suvorov School

        It is strange that you are not in New Russia, but ...
        1. 0
          30 November 2014 12: 52
          It’s strange that you are not there either, but ..
      5. +3
        29 November 2014 16: 46
        An outspoken loser? are you talking about what kind of failure did you mean?
    2. +2
      29 November 2014 10: 13
      [quoteChoy, somehow, everything that Suvorov "did" for Russia from the point of view of modern times can be compared with the actions of Strelkov ...]
      Do not tell me about Strelkov’s activity (I’m not pushing him) against the background of Suvorov, it’s the same as the activity of any lieutenant.
  1. 0
    29 November 2014 23: 11
    Then Colonel. I have never heard that he received this title undeservedly.
    PS In general, this is a separate issue, I would not want the negativity in the topic of the invincible Russian commander.
  • +10
    29 November 2014 06: 19
    The only commander in the world who used himself as the last reserve. (no need for Macedonian and other 12th Karls with Napoleons - they were kings) Glory !!! And Memory !!!!
  • +11
    29 November 2014 06: 36
    A. V. Suvorov about himself:

    Do you want to know me? I will reveal myself ... Friends were surprised to me, haters reproached me ... I was Aesop, Lafontaine: I told the truth with jokes and bestial language. Like the jester Balakirev, who benefited from Russia, grimaced and writhed. I sang with a rooster, awakening drowsy ...

    I have a lot of old friends: Caesar, Hannibal, Vauban, Kegorn, Folard, Tyurenn, Montekuli, Rollen ... and I don’t remember everyone. It is a sin to old friends to change to new ones.

    And of course "It's hard in training, easy in battle" "To fight not by numbers, but by skill"

    A.V.Suvorov - Russian god of war!
  • +8
    29 November 2014 06: 36
    Napoleon said that until we learn to fight as Suvorov, we will lose the battle, in the 1812 war, when attacking Russia, he adopted the experience of Suvorov.
    Marshal MacDonald, I was very young during the Battle of Trebbia, this failure could have a detrimental effect on my career, I was saved only because my winner was Suvorov.
    A talented general, and later a marshal, Massena said that he would give all his victories in one Swiss campaign of Suvorov.
    1. +3
      29 November 2014 10: 20
      When Moscow was captured by the French, Suvorov’s daughter was leaving. One of the last was left by the French patrol and asked who she was. She answered Suvorov’s daughter. The patrol saluted and let her go without obstacles.
  • +7
    29 November 2014 06: 47
    Crushed Pugachev. And can anyone imagine what would happen to our country, if Pugachev won? Who has imagination - imagine.
    Glory to Alexander Vasilyevich !!!!! And the order of his name was not given to anyone "just like that". Glory !!!
    1. +4
      29 November 2014 07: 56
      Well, not crushed ... so dotoptal. And thank God, for it is not appropriate for Suvorov to engage in police actions.
      1. 0
        29 November 2014 08: 28
        So - not trampled - killed and destroyed. And if the Turkish-Polish-British money of the "uprising" type was created, then it was not such a "police" action.
  • +3
    29 November 2014 06: 50
    Trampled, trampled, crumpled sides ....... (to put it mildly) "retroEurosoyuz" in due time!
  • Leonidych
    +5
    29 November 2014 06: 53
    Poles need to be reminded more often of Suvorov, otherwise something was lifted up too much mane .....
  • +3
    29 November 2014 07: 17
    What makes the West most angry is that the absolute military genius is Russian. and this is SUVOROV!
    1. +2
      29 November 2014 07: 34
      This also makes the Poles angry. They have mercy on them, and who ??? !!! Russians, shame!
      1. +1
        29 November 2014 08: 56
        Poles angry, angers the Turks, angers the French .... Damn, everyone is angry laughing
        Vivat, Field Marshal !!!
        Glory for centuries, generalissimo !!!!!
  • +1
    29 November 2014 07: 21
    Quote: tanit
    Crushed Pugachev.


    As far as I know, General Bibikov was defeated by Pugachev. Suvorov was finishing off the leftovers. But he, of course, would have done this if he had arrived earlier.
  • +2
    29 November 2014 07: 22
    Golden words of Alexander Vasilievich - Hard in exercises - easy in battle!
  • +3
    29 November 2014 07: 32
    Catherine rightly said that if Poland will not be friends with Russia, then someday Poland will not.
  • +1
    29 November 2014 07: 44
    Thumbnail Xavier de Mestra
  • +10
    29 November 2014 07: 51
    The most unbelievable thing for me is the stories that HE in 20-degree frost commanded in a casket and cloak. When my colleagues on the parade ground (the heroes are not us) complain about the frost, I invariably tell them about it (in Kazakh) and am more than sure that somewhere, someone tells: in Moldovan, Ukrainian, Georgian, the same thing about the same person. About Suvorov!
  • +4
    29 November 2014 08: 14
    after the liquidation of Poland, as a state misunderstanding, ex-king Stasik Poniatowski, Grand Duke of Lithuania, Russian, Prussian, Mazovian, Zhemaitsky, Kiev, Volyn, Podolsky, Podljashsky, Inflant,
    Smolensky, Seversky, Chernihiv, and so on and so forth, to the end of his days he was yanking under the bidder of Catherine the Great.
  • Quantum
    +3
    29 November 2014 08: 21
    And in Soviet textbooks, Kostyushka was a hero, since he rebelled
    against tsarist Russia!
    1. 0
      29 November 2014 08: 35
      Where did the hero, Kosciuszko, go after he was released?
    2. 0
      29 November 2014 10: 22
      And in Soviet textbooks, Kostyushka was a hero, since he rebelled
      against tsarist Russia!
      Yes, you are right he was extolled as a fighter for the liberation of the people.
  • -1
    29 November 2014 08: 32
    So - not trampled - killed and destroyed. And if the Turkish-Polish-British money of the "uprising" type was created, then it was not such a "police" action.
  • 0
    29 November 2014 08: 39
    Somehow, one of the members of the forum proved (not convincingly, at the level of Fomenko-Nosonovsky-Rezunov) that Suvorov is an ethnic Swede.
    Yes, and do not care. There was no more Russian.
    Enrages Rezun. I found myself a pseudonym ... I’ll write-g.n.i.da.
    1. +1
      29 November 2014 12: 36
      tanit (1) KZ Today, 08:39 AM New
      Somehow, one of the members of the forum proved (not convincingly, at the level of Fomenko-Nosonovsky-Rezunov) that Suvorov is an ethnic Swede.
      Yes, and do not care. There was no more Russian.
      Enrages Rezun. I found myself a pseudonym ... I’ll write-g.n.i.da.


      100% agree with you. It infuriates me too that the traitor took the pseudonym for such a Great Commander. It would be better called Shikkelgruber or Vlasov.
  • +2
    29 November 2014 08: 39
    ... Suvorov, a man of his time, it is a pity that he did not live up to the war with Napoleon and it is not known how the world history and the history of Russia would have developed then. But, it is not for nothing that they say that everyone’s fate is predetermined, and apparently the commander’s path of Suvorov and his whole life are defined .... And yet not everything is said and written about Suvorov, he and our descendants are not quite appreciated .... It is a pity that there is no good film or series about his life. ..Great man, great are his deeds, he devoted his whole life to the service of Russia, our country must do everything for that so that the name Suvorov lived for centuries ..............
    1. xan
      0
      30 November 2014 16: 08
      Quote: Siberian
      .Suvorov, a man of his time, it is a pity that he did not live to see the war with Napoleon, and it is not known how world history and the history of Russia would have developed.

      He did not live, but the generals and veteran soldiers did. And still the military victorious drive survived in Russian society, as they could not understand why there were no victories. How old Bolkonsky said it in Tolstoy's "War and Peace", I don't remember how smoothly it was - under Suvorov we would not have allowed this. Davydov wrote that by great pull he managed to get a job in the army in the war of 1807.
      Throughout the 18th century, Russians fought not on their territory and won all the wars. Already the mentality was winners. And here, from Suvorov, the brilliant victories of the last decade, starting from Rymnik and Ishmael to Italy, and the bullet point is the Swiss campaign.
  • +1
    29 November 2014 08: 42
    There is someone to be proud of!
  • +1
    29 November 2014 08: 46
    Legendary person. This war will always be remembered not only by Russia.
  • +3
    29 November 2014 08: 55
    Quote: name
    Choi, somehow everything that Suvorov "did" for Russia from the point of view of modern times can be compared with the actions of Strelkov ... Ah ... no .. recourse

    My friend is mistaken. In my opinion "created" and fought for Russia are two different things.
    Both Suvorov and Strelkov are both warriors (although the calibers are different) and are not "creators" at all.
    "Created" Serdyukov, Grachev, hohlofascists in Ukraine - mediocrity (each in his own), not to mention the others.
    Suvorov, this is an icon for a military man, he is taller than all Riflemen (they are soldiers of Suvorov - not imploring their dignity, each in his place). So it seems!
  • +4
    29 November 2014 09: 13
    The commander of Suvorov was talented, intelligent, successful. First among all! For that he is honored and eternal glory!
    But in his estate, the celebrated field marshal was booming a lot, there is evidence of this. And yet, the descendants of Suvorov was remembered as the savior of the Fatherland and its protector!
  • +1
    29 November 2014 09: 21
    Suvorov, glory !! It turns out that even then the Polish elites had no brains. Well, just like now! And forever numb to him.
    1. 0
      29 November 2014 14: 40
      As one of the greats said: "The Poles do not know how to fight, but to rebel ....."))))))
  • +1
    29 November 2014 09: 26
    Eternal glory !!! A true patriot! I am proud of such heroes !!! drinks
  • pahom54
    +2
    29 November 2014 09: 36
    Hurray to the field marshal!

    Oh, it’s a pity that there is no modern Suvorov in modern Poland ...
  • 0
    29 November 2014 09: 56
    Article plus, quickly downloaded the book "Suvorov" in fb2, I will refresh my memory (I read it as a child). And at the expense of the origin, so Russian roots can be traced back to the times of Ivan the Terrible.
  • +1
    29 November 2014 10: 04
    The keys to Warsaw, Polish banners, guns .. then until 1920 were stored in the Suvorov Museum and Artillery .. But the Poles demanded these relics, back when peace was concluded after the Polish-Soviet war .. Some of the guns were hidden in the Kremlin, and the banners and keys from Warsaw had to be given to the Poles, but it didn’t do good .. in 1939 the Germans relics data, after the occupation of Poland were taken to Germany ..
  • Fin
    +2
    29 November 2014 10: 12
    Given the military-economic potential of the Commonwealth and its internal decay, to fight in its position was suicide. However, the gentry did not care. The Polish people with their selfishness, passion for adventures and entertainment destroyed the great power and brought Poland to a logical end - suicide.

    Does this not remind anyone now? There is only a country to replace.
  • SamSeBse
    +4
    29 November 2014 10: 46
    Yes, there were people in our time, Not that the current tribe ...
  • VSC
    +1
    29 November 2014 12: 58
    "from the rescript of Catherine the Great: by pacifying Poland, you made yourself a field marshal." It took Suvorov 42 days to bring "Great Poland" to its knees!
  • +1
    29 November 2014 14: 28
    GLORY TO THE GREAT COMMANDER AV SUVOROV !!! Every WARRIOR knows the words of the GREAT COMMANDER: "TRAINING HARD - EASY IN BATTLE".
  • 0
    29 November 2014 14: 42
    Katarzyna, as it were, would be reminded ... It's a pity not a Muscovite, and not 16 years old, otherwise the banner opposite the Pshek embassy would surely be pulled with friends ....
  • +1
    29 November 2014 15: 05
    Suvorov is the greatest commander. What is one assault on Ishmael. Think about it, Ishmael, at that time was a modern fortress. And despite the fact that there were fewer advancing Suvorov soldiers (31 thousand) than defending Turks (35 thousand), Ishmael was taken. And not only that losses of (defending !!) Turks totaled 26000 (+2000 captured and died of wounds the day after the assault), and losses among the Suvorov soldiers (advancing !!!) were 5350 people.
  • 0
    29 November 2014 15: 08
    Military and political genius! Svetoch! Eternal glory to Russian weapons !!!
  • 0
    29 November 2014 15: 19
    Under him, not even the most persistent troops in the world of the Austrian Empire managed to make crazy march-throws and stand to death. Yes, he live a little longer - the history of the world has changed.
    Eternal Glory !!! Eternal Memory !!!! Viva !!!!
  • 0
    29 November 2014 15: 53
    A brilliant commander and a model of service to his country!
    An honest patriot who never compromised with his conscience and saved hundreds of thousands of soldiers' lives!
    A brilliant and tragic fate with victories and undeserved humiliations, the end of his life with the immortalized Alpine campaign and the conflict with Paul, no less devoted to Russia. In fact, at the cost of his life, he convinced Paul of the need to break the alliance with the British, which later cost his life too.
    Eternal memory and glory to Alexander Vasilievich!
  • 0
    29 November 2014 16: 14
    Suvorov said: I have many old friends - Atilla, Caesar, Hannibal.
  • 0
    29 November 2014 17: 42
    Quote: Banshee
    equate with this ... an outrageous loser.

    Well, ka Roman is more detailed in this place, apparently I don’t know something, I seem to be critical of all the personalities of New Russia.
  • 0
    29 November 2014 20: 19
    Quote: nils
    “I am proud that I am Russian,” he often said, and in his mouth it was not an empty phrase.

    I am russian too. And you are an instigator of ethnic hatred. Genghis Khan, isn't he a great commander?
  • kokostick08
    -1
    29 November 2014 20: 31
    Quote: Sergei1982
    The Russian army at the time of Suvorov differed from the vast majority of other armies in that it was uniform in its national composition.
    In addition, we must add here that the army was formed on the principle of fraternity, that is, Novgorod, Tula regiments, battalions, etc. I hope no one needs to explain that people from one place of residence are much more friendly.


    Probably, the "Russian" army has never been homogeneous in its ethnic composition. Don't talk nonsense, pzhlst!
  • Belisarios
    +1
    29 November 2014 21: 31
    The popularity of Suvorov in Europe after the Italian and Swiss campaign was so high that under the guise of a portrait of Alexander Vasilyevich, portraits of Washington were sold out like hot cakes! :)
    Several years ago, a multi-part documentary was released about all the battles of Suvorov. On rutrekkere in the section Military Affairs is.
    Vivat Suvorov!
  • 0
    30 November 2014 00: 24
    I did it at one time, but it didn’t go to the competition, but here it seems there will be a topic :)
  • 0
    30 November 2014 15: 29
    When the Turkish government decided to enter the Second World War on the side of the Nazis, the results of the battles of the Janissaries against, as a rule, the smaller in numbers of Russian troops led by the invincible and terrible for the enemies of Alexander Vasilievich Topal Pasha !!!
  • Cat
    0
    30 November 2014 18: 07
    We are descendants of the MIRACLE OF THE WEALTHY !!! We must remember the feat of this great commander of the land of Rusko. Low bow to all the heroes of the "soldier", "Cossack" and "huntsmen" who brought so many victories to the treasury of military glory. Vivat Suvorov A.V.
  • 0
    30 November 2014 21: 45
    When Suvorov found out about Napoleon that he was using his tactics, he said - "We ought to teach a thief a lesson," but did not have time.
  • 0
    1 December 2014 09: 59
    ...and the Austrian emperor sent Suvorov his portrait.
    Shy...)