Conversation with Igor Bezler, a defender of New Russia
Interview with Bezler in the generally accepted journalistic understanding, in general, was not. Yes, and what kind of interview, if we were not alone for a second: every now and then the issues of humanitarian aid, the daily life of the city were solved, the telephone rang continuously, and Bes' tone changed from neutral to polite to metallic-hard. Then a quick dinner, a toast for the meeting, for the victory and, as usual, the third for the dead - we remembered with cognac, Bes and Andrew mineral water. In their life, alcohol is completely absent, and from bad habits only cigarettes. With difficulty, Bes carved out a minute for dressing, and only when the doctors moved from the requests to the requirements.
About the extreme fight (I want to say the last so much, but you understand that oh, how far to the last, therefore, according to the traditions of the landing and special forces, I say - extreme) Bezler says reluctantly, others are “spreading” more and more. And then from the set of puzzles formed the picture of the battle, from which even survived it becomes not fun. Some details: Bezler’s unit drove into a thoroughly camouflaged “ukrov” brigade - even the drone did not find armored vehicles dug into the ground, dugouts, and trenches. Almost 5 hours a little more than fifty soldiers fought with one and a half thousand "ukrov": one against a whole platoon. Wounded and contused, they escaped, pulling out all the dead. The Nazis lost almost the entire brigade - hundreds of dead and wounded, burned equipment, panic, horror. Such is Bezler, desperate and bold, these are his guys. God keeps him, apparently knows what and for what.
Igor Nikolaevich Bezler, call sign Bes, has long been a charismatic figure of resistance to Donbass. Perhaps, in popularity in Novorossia, he is not inferior to Strelkov, and even surpasses the hate of Kiev. Perhaps the reason for this is the outrageousness of his actions, perhaps, the fear that the fascists feel about him. It may also be because he did not suffer a single defeat, that crime was eliminated in the city, and local oligarchs are working to dig trenches, to demine and generally work for the benefit of the people, that the infrastructure has been preserved, and over Gorlovka there is virtually no-fly zone - attack aircraft and helicopters fly around with its side, otherwise one hundred percent guarantee of "landing" is already in the form of debris.
Igor is easy to isolate from the crowd - above average height, lean. Piercing blue eyes - blue sky, but the look is heavy, not everyone can stand. It is harsh, but rather it is an elaborated manner of communication aimed at psychological repression. Answers to questions immediately, without preparation, slightly narrowing his eyes, - so they shoot offhand at the slightest rustle. In the landing of the head, in the turn of the shoulders, in the look - psychological stress tolerance felt throughout the years of service is felt in everything.
- Why Bes?
- Nickname since childhood. Probably for pranks.
- Strelkov came to Slavyansk - symbolism in the very name of the city, so named Ekaterina. You are in Gorlovka. Why exactly Gorlovka?
- The city is beautiful, I liked it.
- In Ukraine, you are wanted by the GRU saboteur. The Ukrainian “bezpeka” considers you the most dangerous state criminal. They incriminate not only the disarmament of military units in the Crimea, subunits of the SBU and the police, but also the creation of an agent network. How true is this?
- In the Crimea, was awarded a medal and a cross (Crimean, not Russian). The units did not disarm - they themselves were tired of the independence of the yellow-blakitnaya, or rather, the oligarchic-gang lawlessness, and that was what opened the gates. Well, we were extremely polite - upbringing affects. The rest is without comment.
- Humanitarian comes?
- Not always before, like weapon. Now is better.
- How are you going to spend the winter? On one humanitarian aid you will not stay.
- We will not guess - I'm a realist. Ukraine is waiting for handouts from the West, there was no sowing campaign, therefore there is nothing to clean. Donbass Kiev, which feeds the country, destroyed it with shells and bombs, burned the fields, destroyed the inhabitants or expelled them from the ancient Russian lands just because they are Russian, they don’t want to practice Uniate dogmas, to be slaves to the Poles and the Germans - another mentality. We are not at the sacred level, lackeys, unlike the Westerners. Equipment Kharkov and Zaporozhye factories are exported to the western region, stopping production. You idiots, you have to work for them, otherwise it’s just scrap metal! Nobody stopped the war, and all these American litters, seized power and non-Ukrainians by blood, are going to fight to the last Ukrainian! .. We have everything in our city: mines, factories, infrastructure, kindergartens, schools, pharmacies, except for those who produced amphetamine. Drugs are also done away with, as in general with crime and corruption. But Gorlovka is not the whole Donbass. It will be hard, but we are Russian, we will stand, but the rest of Ukraine will not be sweet - this is a fact.
- You are a military man, which means with system thinking. But one person can not manage a huge city, especially when it must solve purely military tasks. Wanted industry professionals.
- They are. We kept the old cadres, only weaned us from taking bribes and stealing - we were capable students. Mr Klep remained the mayor with the seal and the right to sign. I am on his bank and take care (sits under guard. - Approx. Of the author) - shaved his head, dressed in the spirit of the times, in the morning sings the Anthem of the Soviet Union, the rise in 6, hang up in 22: 30. Morally cleaned - does not steal, does not take bribes, gives the people what they grab, and builds roads. Will sit until re-educated. Let him know for himself what it means to live within our means. He became a patriot - he ordered Russian flags to be posted all over the city, to leave all taxes in the city, to keep the salaries of the militia at the enterprises where they had previously worked. Caring mayor with us.
- How do you evaluate the current Kiev authorities?
- How can you evaluate the traitors? They will have their own Nuremberg Tribunal. I regret that Petro Poroshenko weighed only 2 slaps when he drove him in Simferopol from the building of the Supreme Council to the station. They can only take away and share, such is gangster education. They have been taught this since childhood - see their biographies. Damaged and notorious, with the consciousness of small fartschikov, they can not be statesmen, and that says it all.
- The power of Kiev grinds that there is a patriotic war of the Ukrainian people, which reflects the Russian aggression. Are you fighting with anyone?
- We fight with the fascists. We are fighting with the world financial and industrial oligarchy, for which Ukraine is only a means to achieve the main goal - to destroy Russia, Russians, Slavs. Here is the answer: to slay the Slavs - let them destroy themselves. If we fall, all nations will be on their knees, for not a single nation, not a single people will be able to withstand them, except the Russians.
There was a coup, a crowd under the anthem of Nazi Germany was killing and crippling the "Berkutovtsy" - the same Ukrainians, only those who remained loyal to the oath. Who came to power? And the accomplices of Yanukovych to plunder the country, which never became a state. Companions of Kravchuk, Kuchma and Yushchenko - they all differ only in the scale of the robbery. The stupid people echoed their panami - "Russia attacked." Yes, if Russia had introduced at least a division, then tomorrow its troops would already be in Lviv. More precisely, in the ancient city of Lemberg, and the current Banderovites need to understand this. And do not forget that we remember the Volyn massacre of the Poles, Jewish executions and gas chambers, Khatyn, and a lot more, which not only their fathers and grandfathers had bloodied their hands, but entire generations also hated them. Mercenaries are fighting with us - the Americans, the Anglo-Saxons, the Arabs, the Swedes - which is just no mess. Do they need our land? Well, she will accept and bury them. Otherwise it will not.
- Do you have Ukrainians in your units?
- I have almost all the locals that I don’t divide into Ukrainians, Russians, Chechens, Armenians, Jews, etc. They are equally dear to me, fighting the descendants of the fascist shortages. It’s not we who came to Rivne or Zhytomyr to kill, rob and rape, to destroy houses, burn fields, blow up factories. In their cruelty, they overshadowed even the fascists during the period of the occupation of Donbass. However, even then the atrocities were distinguished not by the Germans, but by the Ukrainian nationalists who served in the police and the sander command.
- Foreigners in the militia have?
- Of course there are, the Serbs, the Spaniards, the French, and the Germans, sincerely hating fascism and the current hegemony of the United States, are fighting alongside us. These are people of conscience, which is still burning in Europe. Somehow they detained a German at a checkpoint, they brought me to me. Who it? Where to? What for? He answers that he came for his wife, who is in Lugansk, and for his beloved cat. It is clear: the cat is beloved, and therefore rolled. He saw a machine gun from me, asked to sell and raked out 40 thousand euros from his pocket. He says that I give everything I have for an automatic machine. Like, I want to beat the Nazis. At this time, a call from the office of Merkel. Some of her adviser is hysterical, shouting that we have captured a German citizen, and demands his immediate release. I reply that I do not mind at all, but he himself does not want to. “What does he want?” - the adviser asks. “To the militia,” I answer. Silence for ages, and then quietly: “Can I hear it?” “Yes, no problem,” I answer and pass the phone to a German. He issued: I am a tankman, a Wehrmacht sergeant, commander tank “Leopard-2” and I ask you to give me only 3 tanks and then, they say, in 2 days I will be in Kiev. In response, short beeps and no more calls. I gave the German a machine gun for such a speech and sent it to Lugansk. Now fighting in the militia is excellent, and Frau Merkel did not send him tanks.
- Lose a lot?
- For me, every "two hundredth" is the loss of a loved one, even if he did not know him personally. But this is war and everything happens. As for arithmetic, we have a dozen times less losses than "dill". We grind almost all Aviation and armored vehicles of the Ukrainian army, they have thousands of dead and wounded, whom the government declares deserters, so as not to pay relatives. With us, only the special battalion does not suffer losses - constant replenishment.
- What kind of battalion?
- prisoners.
- And more? What's wrong with them?
- Enough. Basically, I only keep officers for exchange. Conscripts and army men in general I give to relatives if they come, or I ship them to the region. "Natsik" in captivity do not take fundamentally - ideological beasts to re-educate once. They don’t stand on ceremony with ours, but why should we be noble? They came to us with a sword, therefore we act according to the precepts of Alexander Nevsky.
- And how does the Kiev authorities relate to exchange options?
- Yes, they (prisoners) Kiev is not needed at all. Every time they have an edge about this. Olga agreed (Olga Ivanovna Kulygina, Candidate of Biological Sciences, was captured by the Ukrainian security forces as a saboteur) and exchanged for officers of the SBU, but at the last moment Kiev changed its mind: they still find the colonels, but they outlined Olga. It is pleasant that they change several of theirs for each of ours. Olga, we still traded - one woman for 17 (!) Officers and a citizen of Georgia. They always change ours for three, four or more of their own - we are valued several times higher, and this is a matter of pride. In general, the feeling that the soldiers need only dead Kiev - with the living because the authorities may still have problems, especially with the first cold.
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