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Asymmetric Answer Weapon

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From the means of operational support of warfare, EW became a means of warfare


Today, the United States practically does not conduct military operations without active use of electronic warfare (EW), which was clearly shown by the events in Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. This is of particular relevance in connection with the situation in Ukraine, which our counter-partners sleep and see in NATO, as well as with the deployment of the third missile defense position region in Poland and Romania. What will Russia oppose? This and other questions are answered by the acting chief of the electronic warfare troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Yury Lastochkin.

Effect of addiction

- What are the recent trends in the development of EW, what are our priorities?

- The accents of warfare are increasingly shifting to the information sphere. With regard to modern technically advanced countries, one can rightly say: their power is largely a consequence of the use of high technology, primarily information. This process is based on the large-scale (total) introduction of radio-electronic equipment and computer equipment to all spheres of warfare, as well as building on their basis network managers (network-centric) structures within a single information space.

Asymmetric Answer WeaponThe recent armed conflicts have shown that the degree of realization of the combat potential of a group of troops increases significantly not only and not so much through the use of high-precision means of destruction, but primarily due to gaining superiority in the control of subordinate forces and means. It is achieved and maintained with the rational use of modern means of intelligence and control. Thus, receiving timely more accurate and complete information on the battlefield, making adequate decisions and promptly bringing them to subordinates, the party in conflict with superiority in management becomes capable of defeating the enemy several times superior.

The technical basis of all modern weapons and military equipment systems, primarily such as intelligent, high-precision and robotic, intelligence, electronic warfare, control and communications, is made up of radio-electronic means (RES). In order to achieve the objectives of operations, they are usually combined into systems of various levels of complexity and purpose. However, in conditions of high saturation of all spheres of warfare with them, a paradoxical situation emerged. On the one hand, the possibilities for achieving the objectives of operations (combat operations) are sharply increased, on the other hand, a violation of the normal operation modes of the REC can negate all the advantages, even cause a complete loss of combat capability. Thus, it becomes quite obvious the so-called effect of the dependence of the armed forces of the technically advanced states on the quality of the operation of electronic means in the structure of weapons and military equipment.

In such conditions, it is the electronic warfare that, as a relatively low-cost and fairly easy-to-implement method of disorganizing the operation of individual enemy radio installations and protecting oneself, comes to the fore. Under certain conditions, it is the use of EW methods that can be considered as asymmetric measures that level the merits of high-tech systems and means of warfare.

However, all of the above requires a systematic approach to EW. By such, we need to consider a targeted system with appropriate properties, that is, the presence of system-forming, system-preserving factors, synergy, emergence, multiplicativeness, etc. It should be remembered: only a system with a no less difficulty level can successfully withstand the system. In addition, the practice of using EW means shows their higher efficiency in combination with the means of influence (protection, intelligence) of another functional purpose.

Significant expansion of the frequency range, reduction of radiation power and communication distances, increase in data transmission speed, special modes of operation, formation of network structures, wide use of air, space and unmanned systems and tools suggest a number of promising directions for the development of EW systems in general and individual tools in particular .

These areas include:

-expansion of the functionality of individual EW facilities and increase their universality;
-use of open architecture with the ability to change their functionality by adding additional modules;
- the inclusion of EW as an element in the composition of almost all systems of warfare;
-transfer of efforts to defeat electronic systems to the enemy’s territory, the widespread use of unmanned and abandoned (recorded) EW facilities;
-the emergence of the technique of functional destruction of the enemy's RES - weapons powerful directional electromagnetic radiation;
-the use of special means for disrupting the operation of computerized control systems built according to the network principle;
- selection as priority objectives for the impact of airborne, unmanned, robotized and satellite RESs of control and reconnaissance systems;
-developing new ways of breaking (changing) the propagation conditions of radio waves;
-the creation of technologies to reduce the visibility of weapons and military equipment in the interests of countering enemy intelligence;
-creation of a complex radio-electronic situation for the technical means of reconnaissance of the enemy and imitation in the areas of operations (combat operations).


Obviously, these areas may in the long term - medium-term and especially long-term - undergo a transformation arising from the logic of the development of warfare, science and technology, and as a result should be the object of close attention of the scientific community.

- How is the development of the electronic warfare forces going on after the stagnation and large-scale reduction of the Armed Forces in 2012?

- In recent years, the intensity of combat training has increased significantly. Since the beginning of 2014, the EW troops alone have conducted more than 15 exercises of various sizes. In addition, to create a complex and dynamic environment of the active electronic impact of the enemy on all the operational and combat training activities, military units and EW units are involved. The quality of training officers and personnel in general has grown.

The main educational institution of the EW troops of the RF Armed Forces and federal executive authorities is the Military Training and Research Center of the Air Force “Military Air Academy” (Voronezh). It organized training in all major specialties of EW. And junior specialists are trained by the Interspecific Center for Training and Combat Use of Electronic Warfare Troops (Tambov). 110 anniversary of electronic warfare center met with serious results. During the academic year, over a four-month program, it has trained more than 1500 junior EW specialists, radio and radio intelligence in more than 15 specialties. As an experimental site for testing EW equipment and radio intelligence, the center actively participates in military-technical cooperation with defense companies, including Tambov Plant Revtrud, FGUP TNIIR Efir, CJSC Signal.

Regarding the development of EW assets of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation as a whole, it is currently being implemented in accordance with the State Weapons Program for 2011 – 2020 years (GW-2020), approved by the President of the Russian Federation 31 in December 2010. The implementation of the GW-2020 activities is carried out as part of the annual state defense orders (GOZ). Performing the parameters of the HPV-2020 will allow to increase the level of provision of EW troops with advanced equipment to 2020 to 70 percent.

Lessons for Russia

- What experience of using EW in past military conflicts is of professional interest to you and why?

- First of all, Iraq and Yugoslavia, although it would seem that those events are long gone. But, first, far from everything was told. Secondly, such methods, methods of using EW are being used now, for example, during the operation against the same Libya. Thirdly, it is useful to once again analyze those events from the height of our time.

Judge for yourself. In the war with Iraq (1991 year) in the interests of the EF MNS, a space grouping of reconnaissance assets (up to 40 AES) and ground (1550) radio and radio intelligence and direction finding stations were established.

As part of aviation EW grouping, there were 108 aircraft for the suppression of radar, radio lines and the destruction of anti-aircraft missiles. All strike aircraft of the USAF, UK, France and ships have individual stations installed to protect against detection by electronic means and destruction by guided weapons. A significant part of aviation is equipped with hanging containers with electronic warfare equipment of collective protection.

In the area of ​​the conflict in the ground forces grouping, 60 ground stations and 37 EW helicopters were deployed, which allowed solving reconnaissance and electronic suppression tasks for KB, VHF and radio relay communications at the tactical and operational-tactical level of control to a distance of 120 – 150 kilometers.

The main task of the US EW was to suppress and disorganize the Iraqi air defense command and control system throughout the country. Without a successful solution of this task, the massive use of aviation would entail a significant loss of military equipment and personnel. As a result of the use of RTR, REP and control aircraft together with anti-radar missiles (with almost no radio electronic countermeasures from the Iraqi forces) for the first 10 days of hostilities, up to 80 percent of all combat-ready Iraqi radars were disabled.

In fact, for the first time in the practice of conducting electronic warfare, a form of "electronic strike" was implemented, as a result, it was possible to create favorable conditions for the sudden use of aviation and ground forces, high-precision weapons, to achieve overall superiority in control.

During the second campaign in Iraq (2003 year), an EW operation was carried out at the same time, which, in addition to powerful jamming and targeted suppression of state and military radio electronic equipment, included many high-precision fire strikes on radio-emitting objects with special high-precision rockets with dusty graphite and metallized head-pieces that hit transformer substations and relay automatics of power stations. The share of their use compared with the previous conflict has increased by 30 percent.

For the first time during the operation, an experiment was conducted to suppress the information potential of the enemy — television and radio stations, repeaters, editors of electronic and print media, which were used to highlight the course of hostilities and propaganda. As a result, Iraq’s outreach potential has been completely suppressed.

Navigation system NAVSTAR was widely used for the guidance of precision weapons. The share of such weapons in the war was 95 percent (in the 1991 year - 7%). The experience of the described armed conflicts confirmed the well-known views of the US and NATO command on the EW as an integral part of military operations of any scale, on how to organize and conduct it, once again demonstrating in practice that the EW had grown from operational (combat) support to a means of armed struggle.

- What is new Americans used in Yugoslavia?

- The actions of the USA and NATO in the spring and summer of 1999 in Yugoslavia became the prototype of the sixth generation war. It was a contactless local war, based on the aerospace-sea operation and information confrontation.

In the course of military operations in the framework of the information confrontation, NATO forces conducted an EW operation, which, in addition to electronic suppression, included many high-precision fire strikes against radio-emitting objects. For the first time an experiment was carried out to suppress the information potential of Yugoslavia.

Tested new cruise missiles, sea-based AGM-109, carriers of which were ships and submarines of the US Navy. Interestingly, they were aimed at targets using the space navigation system GPS, and the flight was carried out in full radio silence mode without radiation of electromagnetic energy to measure the height of its flight. Only on the final section, directly in the target area, did the DSMAS optical system activate for accurate targeting to a specific critical point of the object.

The main targets of the defeat were key military and economic facilities, infrastructure and communications of Serbia and Kosovo. In most cases, they were successfully amazed. According to official Pentagon data, 900 – 1,2 thousands of high-precision cruise missiles, most of which were experimental, were used to attack 1,5 objects of the economy. So to say, democracy in action.

- Space exploration tools used with the same intensity?

- They not only played an extremely important role in the operation, but were systemically important military-technical instruments of warfare. The United States has created a powerful grouping of 50 satellites for various purposes. Above the theater of war were simultaneously 8 – 12 spacecraft, which, together with air and sea carriers, were the basis of reconnaissance-strike combat systems. From space, continuous monitoring of the KD-1 (United States), Helios-1A (France) optical reconnaissance satellites, and Lacrosse (USA) radar reconnaissance satellites was conducted, as well as control, navigation, communications and meteorological support. US spacecraft GPS systems navigated the latest high-precision air and sea-based cruise missiles. Special space vehicles Spot (France) transmitted a television image of the earth’s surface and documented experimental strikes against the economy and infrastructure of Serbia and Kosovo in order to determine the real effectiveness of high-precision cruise missiles.

As a result, the air defense of Yugoslavia was completely suppressed by the EW. NATO’s precision-guided anti-radar missiles were destroyed by virtually every radio source. As a rule, already after the first launch of an anti-aircraft missile, even the most advanced anti-aircraft missile system of Yugoslavia’s air defense system, which uses the principle of active radar in its work, was doomed to failure, regardless of whether it remained on or off. Each radar, which radiated electromagnetic energy for a short time, was necessarily destroyed either by an anti-radar missile or a missile with guidance on the thermal radiation of a radar vehicle engine or its power units when the radar itself is turned off. This led to the fact that during the first two or three days of the war 70 percent of the divisions of the mobile C-125 and C-75 SAMs were disabled.

In the course of the operation, an EW operation was carried out by NATO forces simultaneously with fire destruction of air defense and infrastructure facilities, which, in addition to powerful jamming defensive and targeted suppression of Yugoslav radio electronic equipment of state and military purposes, included many high-precision fire strikes on other radio-emitting objects. Anti-radar missiles, aimed at any recorded sources of radiation of electromagnetic energy, were destroyed by radars, air defense missile systems, radio communication stations, conventional and cellular communications nodes, television stations, broadcasting stations, computer centers.

During an EW operation, the enemy’s informational potential was suppressed - television and radio stations, repeaters, electronic and print media, which were used to highlight the course of hostilities and propaganda. When selecting targets, the United States and other NATO countries did not always adhere to the norms of international humanitarian law governing the rules of warfare, as evidenced by the defeat of the television and radio center for purely civilian purposes. The main means of EW were the EU-1 ZON and EA-6В aircraft, which operated outside the Yugoslav air defense zone, as well as tactical fighters for delivering high-precision missiles that homing at the radiation source to the launch lines.

The electronic information impact on the automated control networks of the Armed Forces of Yugoslavia was a new element for the United States of waging an information war, which was first used in real armed conflict. Previously, they were limited to more crude methods of influence, such as disabling automated systems due to overloading them with extraneous information.

Alurgit, Infauna and others

- What is the experience of the use of EW forces and means from the struggle against the gangs of the North Caucasus in 2000?

- Prior to the active phase of combat operations, with the financial assistance of a number of foreign countries, the militants created an operational and flexible communications and control system, the technical basis of which was a wide variety of, including portable radio, radio relay and satellite communications, as well as mobile cellular and trunk connection.

The task of identifying and suppressing them, especially in mountainous and wooded areas, is much more difficult. This is primarily due to the peculiarities of the propagation of electromagnetic waves, small communication distances, and restrictions in the choice of positions for EW equipment.

Based on the experience of the previous campaign to establish the constitutional order of 1994 – 1996 and widely using theoretical and experimental developments in the field of creating new EW tools and complexes, new and modernized models of special equipment were quickly developed and practically tested. Under the conditions of intensive use of EW facilities and systems, the failed equipment was quickly restored by field repair teams. This greatly enabled us to successfully accomplish the tasks of electronic warfare in the North Caucasus region.

The goals of the EW were to reduce the possibilities of illegal armed formations to manage forces and equipment, to ensure the stable operation of the electronic equipment of the United Group of Forces. These goals were achieved by coordinated actions of EW forces and equipment, reconnaissance, other types of troops and special forces of the UGA.

The presence of EW maneuver groups in each combined-arms formation made it possible to accurately determine the location of radio stations of field commanders of gangs and, in some cases, after additional exploration, to eliminate them with artillery fire and air strikes.

Thus, the complex use of reconnaissance, fire destruction and electronic suppression means managed to disable the most important radio electronic objects in the illegal armed formation control system, suppress their main radio communication channels with radio interference and in general disrupt the control of armed gangs in the main lines of action of the troops. As a result, the leaders almost completely lost control and were forced to use small-sized portable communication devices, whose work was quickly and effectively stopped.

In the course of performing combat missions in the North Caucasus, a wealth of experience has been accumulated, which is taken into account in the educational process, when implementing EW technology development programs, and improving the forms and methods of electronic warfare.

- What new models of weapons and military equipment are being delivered to the troops today in accordance with the state defense order? What is their advantage?

- In recent years, positive prerequisites have been created for a cardinal renewal of the EW weapons system. The scientific and technical background, formed in the framework of the LG-2015 and LG-2020, allowed in the 2010 – 2013 period to successfully complete the state tests of 18 new types of EW equipment. These are “Borisoglebsk-2”, “Alurgit”, “Infauna”, “Krasukha-2O”, “Krasukha-С4”, “Moscow-1”, “Parodist”, “Lorandit-M”, “Leer-2”, “ Leer-3 ”,“ Lesochek ”,“ Less ”,“ Magnesium-REB ”,“ Field-21 ”, etc.

The newly developed tools for the first time allow:

to ensure the possibility of radio intelligence and radio suppression of integrated communication systems and data transmission of collective use, in 1,5 – 1,8 times to increase the probability of selection of objects of suppression, to reduce the response time by 10 times;
make it possible to block, selectively by location and (or) the system address of blocking the user's cellular communication terminals of the enemy, increase the size of the effective impact zone by using non-traditional (non-power) methods of intelligently blocking mobile subscriber terminals by up to four times and much more.


In addition, this EW equipment will meet the following basic requirements:

-complex and effective impact on a wide range of electronic and computing systems and tools;
- implementation of integrated technical control of measures for masking objects in all physical fields and RES, ensuring protection of information from leakage through technical channels and destruction by means of software (hardware-software) effects;
-conflict stability in terms of the use of electronic warfare devices and radiation-homing weapons by the opposing side;
-high performance (reliability, maintainability, ergonomics, etc.) and a large modernization potential.


Due to a several-fold increase in supplies of weapons and military equipment, more than 10 EW units have been completely re-equipped with modern and promising means.

- And the last question. With which enterprises of the military-industrial complex do you work most closely?

- I would especially note the increasing role of integrated structures in the development and production of EW equipment. Currently, two such structures are formed and function effectively: Concern Sozvezdie OJSC (Voronezh) - in the direction of development of electronic warfare equipment with command and control systems and OJSC Concern of radio-electronic technologies (Moscow) - in the direction of development of electronic warfare equipment with weapon control systems . Close cooperation with defense companies allows us to look confidently into the future.
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  1. Giperboreec
    Giperboreec 16 May 2014 14: 36
    +6
    EW - needed.
    And you need a strong EW.
    1. Canep
      Canep 16 May 2014 14: 44
      +2
      With some Khibiny, the Su-24 panicked the crew of the destroyer Donald Cook. This is EW, so EW.
      1. clidon
        clidon 16 May 2014 16: 11
        +3
        This bike, now, I think, will now be repeated in every way, until it turns into an Internet legend. )
        1. mejik
          mejik 16 May 2014 16: 57
          +7
          Quote: clidon
          This bike, now, I think, will now be repeated in every way, until it turns into an Internet legend. )

          if you had really taken an interest in this topic, you would not have written about the Internet legend.
          SU-24 from Chelyabinsk to the Black Sea just flew in, look at Cook? Do you really think so?
          It’s just that you need to go to the necessary sites, and not just LJ, VK, etc., etc. ...soldier
          By the way, I read an interview with the unit commander on one of the Ural sites, the pilot was punished for 12 attacks. The task was simply to test the "Khibiny" in a real situation, and not to mock the premature babies ...
          1. Maksim...
            Maksim... 16 May 2014 17: 16
            +1
            And how did the Su-24 hurt the Cook?
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 16 May 2014 22: 55
              +3
              Quote: Maxim ...
              And how did the Su-24 hurt the Cook?

              Strongly puzzled the command of the ship and the Navy Yuserov. According to the INF OSB, a closed meeting of the Navy command was held with an analysis of the situation and measures to neutralize it. The crew’s morale was destroyed - 27 reports for debit from the ship.
              The call of the American cruiser Vella Gulf to the Black Sea, scheduled for May 9, has been canceled. The new date is still unknown.
              In short, the passage of the SU-24 with the "Khibiny" under the wing caused a reaction from the amers as in the final act of the immortal "Inspector General" - they did not expect it!
              Americans - professionals - and are well aware that in a real battle all the anti-ship missiles issued on them would be on board. From here and conclude - how did the SU-24 hurt the American overclocking fleet!
          2. Rus2012
            Rus2012 16 May 2014 17: 39
            +1
            Quote: mejik
            SU-24 from Chelyabinsk to the Black Sea just flew in, look at Cook? Do you really think so?
            You just need to go to the necessary sites,

            give a link please ...
            1. mejik
              mejik 16 May 2014 18: 25
              0
              Quote: Rus2012
              give a link please ...

              I’ll look for it in history ... in April I changed the laptop, if I don’t find it, I’ll have to get the old one out of the closet. Well did not throw)))
          3. clidon
            clidon 16 May 2014 19: 03
            +4
            You can link to an interview with the commander of the Ural unit. This is Shagol, we don't have any more Su-24 in the district. I have acquaintances there, they never said anything like that to me. I would not be surprised if the story began to grow overgrown with shaggy details from forums and other semi-specialized "adventurers". Not only that, electronic warfare is simply not "live" in peacetime. According to international standards, this can be regarded as the use of weapons. Also, a test of a secret system, as you said, is trusted by an ordinary combat unit. And of course the Khibiny never officially integrated into the board of the old Su-24. This device was intended primarily for the Su-34. Therefore, not only was the Su-24 flying, as you said, and not its newer machine, but the plane was being driven from Shagol ... - the norm, they drove the landlord from Chelyabinsk.

            In general, I will wait from you for that interview from the "correct" site.
            1. mejik
              mejik 16 May 2014 19: 21
              +1
              Quote: clidon
              This is Shagol

              Thank you for saving me the trouble of delving into a closet and April history in an old laptop hi
              After typing "shagol donald cook" in Google, the first link turned out to be the interview that I was reading at the time. Any inaccuracies in my presentation can be attributed to the prescription of reading the article. Sorry! But I am not "lying". although the site is not the same. Remaining questions for the leadership of the RF Air Force.
              link itself:
              http://www.metronews.ru/novosti/kak-nasha-sushka-napugala-amerikancev/Tponef---I


              Ly9XfVpbQei /
              1. clidon
                clidon 16 May 2014 19: 44
                +2
                Well, read carefully what the deputy says. unit commander. There is not a word that they flew somewhere. There is not a word that they have the Khibiny in service. There are Su-24MR scouts, so what? A typical pre-holiday interview with military leaders is a mix of hints and what he read on the Internet. The letter of the American sailor mentions, although it is already known that it was nothing more than a fantasy of the author of the previous message that the Americans ran en masse to file a letter of resignation, which was really drawn to the duck.

                Although it can be assumed that if it was not even the Chelyabinsk Su-24, then it definitely landed in this city. And more than once.

                Of course more than once, they were driven through Shagol from the east, where they underwent modernization and (or repair).

                In general, thanks for this interview. But the "attack on Cook" still for me remains a steamed Internet bike, which was created on the knee of "information fighters". Which everyone is procrastinating, but there is no specifics.
                1. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 16 May 2014 20: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: clidon
                  "attack on Cook" is still a steamed internet bike for me

                  ... can certainly be attributed to the bike and calm down.
                  But, the presence of some components makes you wonder:
                  1. that the USA reacted so angrily and referred to stress l \ s.
                  2. the fact that the complicated newspaper "Metro" is involved in the information.
                  - A case over the Black Sea - an information leak?

                  - No, it was metered information to show what we can. Because people are worried, worried. Now everyone saw it: a unique ship could not cope with our Su-24, which is not intended for war with aircraft carriers, since there are special missiles for this. And Donald Cook should just cover the air force.


                  The case could be as follows -
                  Su-24, appropriately trained in the part of the regular electronic warfare, repeatedly flew over Cook with the equipment turned on. Despite the fact that the cook was not quite legally present at the World Cup and he needed to be reinforced. Let us also recall how the USSR Navy acted in such situations. "Bulk" of a vessel for example ...
                  1. clidon
                    clidon 16 May 2014 21: 07
                    +2
                    Rus2012
                    1. that the USA reacted so angrily and referred to stress l \ s.

                    - The US reacted to the overflights. Actually, such actions have always been regarded as hooliganism and neither in the United States nor in our country did we receive approval (mutually). Even memorandums were signed to limit the aggressive actions of aviation at sea.
                    The Americans made no statements about the "stress of HP". This is already "local Internet creativity".
                    - A newspaper as a newspaper. They did an interview on a hot topic. Moreover, the attitude to the Su-24 flights among Chelyabinsk citizens, let's say, is ambiguous.

                    Despite the fact that the cook was not quite legally present at the World Cup and he needed to be tamed.

                    At the time of the flight, Cook was legally present in the Black Sea (he entered on April 10). In general, there was a violation - when the frigate "Taylor" was overdue by 21 days (in March this year), explaining this by a malfunction with the propeller (it ran aground). But they didn't fly around him.

                    Let us also recall how the USSR Navy acted in such situations. "Bulk" of a vessel for example ...

                    Then the American entered our tervods. For this in general, you can generally drown. But since the territory was controversial (we considered it to be a terrorist, but the Americans did not), we decided to go for "bulk", that is, the physical displacement of the enemy from their territory.
                    1. Maksim...
                      Maksim... 16 May 2014 21: 33
                      +1
                      Thank you for the clarification!
                    2. Boa kaa
                      Boa kaa 16 May 2014 23: 46
                      +2
                      Quote: clidon
                      The Americans made no statements about the "stress of HP". This is already "local Internet creativity".

                      And what about the statement of the NS Navy assistant on television (by the way, a fragment of it was shown on CT) about unfriendly acts that cause moral damage to the crew of the ship?
                      The reaction was violent and inadequate. It seemed that the fleet leadership was not ready for such a development of events. The prestige of the US Navy was dropped. Easy and laid back. Well, the pilot certainly mocked: 12 passes are clearly unnecessary to demonstrate the capabilities of the outboard equipment. This is too much!
                      1. clidon
                        clidon 17 May 2014 00: 46
                        -1
                        Well, "information war w". Why not use such a wonderful chance to bite your opponent? At least in no official foreign source there are any hysterics, or any accusations of demoralizing the l / composition. On the contrary, it is indicated that nothing threatened the ship, since the planes did not approach closer than 1000 meters and a kind of nod-prick is made towards the "young inexperienced pilots".
                        The Americans and we have repeatedly "flown" over each other during the Cold War, and more rigidly than the Su-24 did, up to the hovering of helicopters over the deck or imitation of an attack. At the same time, the "prestige of the fleets" did not fall anywhere, the people did not give it up - routine.
                        And what could the destroyer do? International waters, no war. That's why I say - information war requires heroes and victories. If there is a shortage of them, then they need to be invented. There is nothing new under the sun.

                        PS In the photo, by the way, frightening enemy of the PTB. )
                    3. Rus2012
                      Rus2012 17 May 2014 13: 18
                      0
                      Quote: clidon
                      A newspaper as a newspaper.

                      Some other opinions

                      In the Metro newspaper, which is distributed free of charge in most cities of the world, last week materials were seen reminiscent of the Historical Picnic published in 1991 on the eve of the State Emergency Committee in the Rush Hour newspaper. An analysis of the Historic Picnic was given in The Last Gambit. Their publication time and content makes it possible to talk about the coordination of forces for the implementation of the Euromaidan in Ukraine.

                      On the Internet, the analysis of these materials is presented in detail in the blog of Mikhail Krasov in the article "" Historical Picnic "in Ukraine".

                      Below are some excerpts from this article and supplement them with our observations and conclusions.

                      In the newspaper "Metro" (which is distributed free of charge in the Moscow metro) in the issue dated January 28, 2014 on the 6th page there is a note "Marvel heroes come to life in hieroglyphs", which is a series of pictures of "superheroes" comics mixed with symbols of Ancient Egypt.

                      In detail -

                      http://www.kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-sostavlyayuschih-jizni-obschestva/id
                      eologiya-religiya / 4531-the-olympic-flame-will-bring-cleansin

                      They say the plan of action throughout the backstage at 2014god taking into account Sochi-2014 and Ukraine
                      1. clidon
                        clidon 17 May 2014 13: 35
                        0
                        I thought you were serious. And here it smacks of Vedas, runes, fortune-telling from the Beatles CD covers and Pushkin's foresight of the collapse of the USSR in the poem "Ruslan and Lyudmila".
                      2. uhu189
                        uhu189 21 May 2014 16: 48
                        0
                        They will not reuse the old cipher after it was announced loudly about it, there is no point in repeating it. I think it’s more like an imitation to attract attention, distracting from something important that could be seen
              2. Rus2012
                Rus2012 16 May 2014 19: 56
                0
                Quote: mejik
                link itself:

                Thank you!

                ... from myself, I can add that Metro is not a simple rag. Behind the scenes.
                So ... we draw conclusions ...
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 16 May 2014 14: 45
      +1
      As part of the 2011-2020 program, they are trying:
      ... In recent years, the intensity of combat training has increased significantly. Since the beginning of 2014, more than 15 exercises of various sizes have been held in the EW troops alone. In addition, military units and EW units are involved in creating a complex and dynamic environment of active radioelectronic impact of the enemy on all operational and combat training activities. The quality of training of officers and personnel as a whole has grown.

      The question is of course "ripe" we were so lagging behind, right now, as always, jumping by leaps and bounds it is necessary to catch up and overtake !!!
    3. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 16 May 2014 15: 03
      +7
      It seems that the EW was strong in the USSR, and it is strong in the Russian Federation. I think not wasted skills.
  2. older
    older 16 May 2014 14: 38
    +4
    I agree with everything ... But a philosophical question arose ... On the one hand, it’s not possible without electronic warfare today. If you lose in technology, you lose the war. And on the other hand, the use of electronic warfare makes almost all modern achievements in the field of communications, precision weapons, systems fire control and so on. Some kind of dead end when the good became bad No.
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 16 May 2014 14: 49
      +2
      I think the answer in the article:

      - What is the experience of the use of EW forces and means from the struggle against the gangs of the North Caucasus in 2000?

      - Prior to the active phase of combat operations, with the financial assistance of a number of foreign countries, the militants created an operational and flexible communications and control system, the technical basis of which was a wide variety of, including portable radio, radio relay and satellite communications, as well as mobile cellular and trunk connection.

      The task of identifying and suppressing them, especially in mountainous and wooded areas, is much more difficult. This is primarily due to the peculiarities of the propagation of electromagnetic waves, small communication distances, and restrictions in the choice of positions for EW equipment.

      Based on the experience of the previous campaign to establish the constitutional order of 1994 – 1996 and widely using theoretical and experimental developments in the field of creating new EW tools and complexes, new and modernized models of special equipment were quickly developed and practically tested. Under the conditions of intensive use of EW facilities and systems, the failed equipment was quickly restored by field repair teams. This greatly enabled us to successfully accomplish the tasks of electronic warfare in the North Caucasus region.

      The goals of the EW were to reduce the possibilities of illegal armed formations to manage forces and equipment, to ensure the stable operation of the electronic equipment of the United Group of Forces. These goals were achieved by coordinated actions of EW forces and equipment, reconnaissance, other types of troops and special forces of the UGA.

      The presence of EW maneuver groups in each combined-arms formation made it possible to accurately determine the location of radio stations of field commanders of gangs and, in some cases, after additional exploration, to eliminate them with artillery fire and air strikes.

    2. Ustian
      Ustian 16 May 2014 16: 49
      +2
      Quote: older
      . But a philosophical question arose ..

      Since biblical times, the principle of opposing the shield and the sword ... The engine of civilization.
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 May 2014 00: 12
      +2
      Quote: older
      the use of electronic warfare makes almost all the modern achievements in the field of communications, precision weapons, fire control systems and so on almost useless.

      And there is only one way out: force effect on active jamming means. X-57, if memory serves, at one time, perfectly coped with this task. Active jammer - song! for aiming and pointing PRL missiles! And so that they are not out of reach there are multichannel missiles, including and guidance on the radiation of radio electronic systems, long range.
      With space constellation more complicated... Only when conducting a full-scale war can an "iron broom" sweep away all their satellite-GPS, specific and RTR reconnaissance. And in case of a local mess, you can screw them up using a hard EMP. The equipment (sensors) burn only on the way! And the meaningless pig in orbit becomes uninteresting even to the Amer owners.
      In short, a lot of all sorts of "things" from our Kulibins in the store there is, not everything (like the Americans) we are talking about. But on occasion we put opponents in a puddle. And we always do it with an innocent look: "What, did you not know !? Yes, fullness, we have this stuff in bulk!"
      Further, the CIA and the NSA (Naval Intelligence) report to the US Senate Committee on why this became possible and where they went about the situation.
      In general, somehow it was in our time.
      1. gazebo
        gazebo 19 February 2015 22: 22
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        "X-57, if memory serves, at one time, perfectly coped with this task" - X-58 (A, A ', B, C) they have other tasks - ground radars.
        "hard EMP" what is it, there is also soft ?.
        You don’t need to simplify everything, a professional article - read between the lines
  3. Arh
    Arh 16 May 2014 14: 42
    0
    Get Together The World And Ban Usa !!! smile
  4. mig31
    mig31 16 May 2014 14: 42
    +3
    Success in new developments, not everything is so bad and it pleases ...
  5. Oml
    Oml 16 May 2014 14: 43
    +8
    And it’s completely disappointing in connection with this topic to lose the latest communications satellite.
    1. van50man
      van50man 16 May 2014 15: 26
      +3
      In such cases, a backup unit is provided. Insurance will cover re-launch. Although of course it’s a pity ... Running a backup is a waste of time, tuning, debugging in orbit, ....
      1. Ustian
        Ustian 16 May 2014 16: 51
        +1
        Quote: van50man
        In such cases, a backup unit is provided.

        Well, with such launches you need to duplicate ... many times!
    2. ASASHOKA
      ASASHOKA 16 May 2014 16: 40
      +3
      Quote: OML
      And it’s completely disappointing in connection with this topic to lose the latest communications satellite.


      What exactly, exactly! The loss of such expensive devices (four not so long ago drowned in the ocean - crashed, now the apparatus burned for billions of rubles) deprives us of the opportunity to invest such money in the country's economy.
      Previously, for every nut in sensitive enterprises they reported, try to transfer it from the workshop to the workshop without permission. Get the most do not indulge! Now, apparently, relaxed with production control !!!
  6. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 16 May 2014 14: 54
    +2
    You give more equipment to the troops, good and different !!!
  7. Prutkov
    Prutkov 16 May 2014 14: 55
    +2
    Quote: older
    I agree with everything ... But a philosophical question arose ... On the one hand, it’s not possible without electronic warfare today. If you lose in technology, you lose the war. And on the other hand, the use of electronic warfare makes almost all modern achievements in the field of communications, precision weapons, systems fire control and so on. Some kind of dead end when the good became bad No.

    Well, this is a kind of "shell and armor" struggle. Any means of electronic suppression in itself is a powerful source of electromagnetic radiation, which means that it is taken and destroyed by missile and artillery weapons. The fight against the enemy's electronic warfare means is a whole complex of retaliatory measures. And not like we have now, the fight against electronic warfare means is only a problem for signalmen. This is a very serious misconception.
  8. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 16 May 2014 15: 00
    +3
    Of all the electronic warfare equipment, I was especially pleased with the "old" SU 24, the proud James Cook and his shabby latrines, after a dozen drying runs ... laughing
  9. Giant thought
    Giant thought 16 May 2014 15: 12
    +4
    Finally, our top military commanders understood the role of electronic warfare in modern warfare, otherwise these units were in the role of poor Cinderella in our army. But now everything falls into place, because without modern electronic warfare there will be no victories.
  10. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 16 May 2014 15: 16
    +2
    Integrated electronic warfare ... an integral part of any modern approach to warfare.
    We must develop the capabilities of units and subunits of the Armed Forces to ensure an adequate response to any challenges in this area.
  11. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 16 May 2014 15: 18
    +4
    Being a radio operator in military service, in exercises (station R-140, who knows),
    fell under the action of electronic warfare. He worked with a wrench. So even the frequency did not change. Instead of pee pee, he became shh and worked quietly. Morse code and the key is a thing !!! Better yet, a wire line. We always after a night slept through revitations from homies requested by wire (more than 1000 km) laughing .

    PS
    It's me that if you press it, you can always roll back 100 years, and not a single electronic warfare system will damage the control system wink
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 16 May 2014 16: 40
      +4
      Quote: 528Obrp
      ...
      if pressed, you can always roll back for 100 years, and not a single electronic warfare system will damage the control system wink

      We can do it quite easily so far, but the Americans, in my opinion, are no longer there, to their chagrin and to our advantage. smile
  12. -Patriot-
    -Patriot- 16 May 2014 15: 19
    +4
    The American destroyer and SU-24 will be included in EW textbooks, and we wish our manufacturers even greater success in this field.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 16 May 2014 16: 42
      +2
      Quote: -Patriot-
      The American destroyer and SU-24 will be included in EW textbooks, and we wish our manufacturers even greater success in this field.

      They have not yet seen our impulse weapons in action ... wassat
      Even the switched off electronics burn out from it. hi
  13. igordok
    igordok 16 May 2014 15: 37
    +1
    Tell me what kind of car it is: name, index.
    I assumed that it was a headquarters vehicle, but an airborne officer corrected: that it was an electronic warfare machine.

    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic 16 May 2014 17: 10
      +4
      Quote: igordok
      Tell me what kind of car it is: name, index.
      I assumed that it was a headquarters vehicle, but an airborne officer corrected: that it was an electronic warfare machine.


      This is similar to the Infauna (RB-531B) based on the BTR-80. It is in service with the Airborne Forces.
      More about her here
      1. igordok
        igordok 16 May 2014 17: 38
        0
        Thank! ...............
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  14. Sergey Eagle
    Sergey Eagle 16 May 2014 15: 39
    0
    The lessons of Vietnam and Yugoslavia should have led our developers and the military to think that imitation equipment is needed to disorient the enemy after turning off the emitting means. The scheme is as simple as the world. The RES worked, turned off, and the simulated RES turned on at a remote distance. Can confuse the enemy. I give the idea to the authors, if it has not yet been adopted.
    1. Alexander_
      Alexander_ 16 May 2014 16: 17
      +1
      It is "on the surface", too obvious, unlikely that it is still not used.
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 16 May 2014 16: 53
      0
      Quote: Sergey Eagle
      The lessons of Vietnam and Yugoslavia should have led our developers and the military to think that imitation equipment is needed to disorient the enemy after turning off the emitting means. The scheme is as simple as the world. The RES worked, turned off, and the simulated RES turned on at a remote distance. Can confuse the enemy. I give the idea to the authors, if it has not yet been adopted.

      In Yugoslavia, Americans spent a bunch of rockets on ordinary kitchen microwaves ... smile
    3. bubla5
      bubla5 16 May 2014 17: 53
      +1
      A better way to put a microwave
      1. zollstab
        zollstab 16 May 2014 18: 18
        0
        Let the enemy kneel down without special equipment am
    4. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 17 May 2014 00: 35
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Eagle
      . I give the idea to the authors, if it has not yet been adopted

      I have to disappoint you: you have been late for exactly so many years at 40. Imitators were used in the Arab-Israeli wars. Now it has come to full-scale rubber cord models with simulators in order to powder the satellite. And I must say they were led to this in Iraq.
  15. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 16 May 2014 15: 57
    +1
    It is stated quite clearly. Thank!
  16. thinker
    thinker 16 May 2014 16: 03
    +3
    Passed by ... - the commander of the ship Donald Cook grunted after a passing drying ... sniffing and glancing at the wet trousers of the officers of the central post lol
    EW result!
  17. Lesorub
    Lesorub 16 May 2014 17: 19
    +2
    It is certainly understandable that REB funds play a crucial role in the modern Army and this is a huge positive when new models of these Systems appear in our army !!!!
    (Article Goode! - detailed interesting material)!
  18. sv68
    sv68 16 May 2014 17: 35
    +1
    most of all pleased with our sense of humor if you look at the names of the electronic warfare systems with such a country it’s dangerous to wail
  19. zollstab
    zollstab 16 May 2014 18: 17
    +1
    A duel of a high-precision and ultra-expensive rocket and a Chinese microwave. Economics lessons in the war with mattresses.
  20. Vikmay16
    Vikmay16 16 May 2014 23: 48
    +1
    EW - need EW tools play a crucial role!
  21. gregor6549
    gregor6549 17 May 2014 16: 45
    +1
    Electronic warfare is just one of the tools of armed struggle and nothing more. It is too early to talk about the advantages of Russian means and methods of electronic warfare over "foreign" ones and vice versa. all the advantages and disadvantages of electronic warfare are manifested only in the course of full-scale hostilities. Some successes or failures associated with the use of electronic warfare means in some limited local conflicts do not and cannot give a complete picture for many reasons, including because these means are one of the most secret types of military equipment and weapons ... And not only they themselves, but also the methods of their application, as well as the methods and results of their tests. It is not excluded, of course, that the SU24 flying around the "Cook" used some kind of electronic warfare means. But it is hard to believe in this, because the goals of such an application are incomprehensible (why reveal their combat potential ahead of time?) It is also unclear how it would be possible to assess the effectiveness of their impact if such an application took place. It is unlikely that the Americans shared such data with Russia.
    Ie. This whole story with the "Khibiny" and "scared to death" Cook sailors most of all resembles a fat newspaper duck.
    It should be noted that in the arsenal of Cook's air defense systems there are quite active air defense systems, which can be aimed at air targets, which are especially distinguishable in the optical wavelength range (and the SU24 overflight is just such a case), can be carried out without the use of radar and even without computers. There are both visual channels and manual guidance channels.
    Information about the mass reports of the frightened sailors Cook, too, has not yet been confirmed anywhere.
    In general, the patriotism of the Americans is hardly less than the patriotism of the Russians, and they fought, where they had to fight, very well. In any case, it’s difficult to reproach them with cowardice.
    So The US Armed Forces is a strong and very well-equipped potential adversary who cannot be overwhelmed with hats. But to respect such an enemy and accordingly prepare to fight with him, if, God forbid, it would not hurt to fight at all. Moreover, prepare quietly and without unnecessary fanfare, as was done during the heyday of stagnation. And this silence had a much stronger effect on the potential enemy of the USSR than Khrushchev's hysterical threats to show them "Kuzka's mother"
    1. gazebo
      gazebo 19 February 2015 22: 35
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      I totally agree. The story of the Su-24M is tight. On the M-ke are the Carpathians, the base station Geranium. If M2- can Khibiny, the possibilities are wider than those of the Carpathians, but not omnipotent. The psychological effect played more.
      One acquaintance told. It was in Germany, GSVG, flying on a spark. They got lost, dived under the clouds, saw that they were going over the port (ships, moorings and all that), they oriented that they flew into NATO, let's tick. The air defense did not have time to react, they fled, but they made a slap in the face. In a couple of weeks - Aviation Day, the ceremonial construction at the airport, the removal of the banner, urya ... and then a couple of Phantoms pass over the takeoff. Noise, din, while they realized the duty link they had already and the trace had caught a cold. Avenged.