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Half of the Su-30 Indian Air Force is chained to the ground - newspaper

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The shocking number - half - of the fleet of Su-30MKI Indian Air Force fighters is chained to the ground due to unresolved service disagreements with Russian manufacturers. This undermines the combat effectiveness of the country's air force and negatively affects that part fleetwhich is still capable of flying. The Indian Air Force and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) sounded the alarm due to repeated failures during the flight of the Su-30 on-board computers and the shutdown of all multi-function displays. For over a year, Russians have not responded to multiple SOS signals from Indians. This was reported by the Indian newspaper The Sunday Guardian, citing documents at its disposal from the correspondence of HAL and Russian counterparties. Here is the translation of the note.


The managing director of the Nasik industrial complex that is part of HAL, where licensed assembly and maintenance of the Dry Air Force for the Indian Air Force is being carried out, frantically but vainly signaled “numerous malfunctions of the on-board computer onboard computer and disconnection of the multifunction displays during the flight” to representatives of Rosoboronexport and the manufacturer original Su-30 - Corporation "Irkut".

“Since turning off displays is a serious and critical problem affecting the operation of aircraft, immediate action is required to eliminate these problems,” he said in a letter from 28 February 2014 February, reminding Russians that this issue was unsuccessful in March 7 2013 year

On-board computer failures and disabling displays are critical faults. The entire flight is programmed in the central on-board computer - this is vital for meeting the requirements of air combat. Turning off the displays in the cockpit knocks down the pilots and distracts their attention from the tasks they perform. The Indian Air Force is worried that the core of their fighter fleet is plagued by endless problems. Total Indian Air Force planned to buy X-NUMX fighter Su-272, of which 30 fighter has already been delivered.

Marshal aviation Denzil Keelor, one of the most “titled” Indian Air Force fighter pilots, is discouraged. “Malfunctions during the flight, in particular those in question, make the aircraft vulnerable. If a fighter flies with reduced capabilities, it becomes more vulnerable to the enemy. No aircraft should be flown if it is not ready to demonstrate 100% of its capabilities, ”he warns.

What seems even more alarming is the deliberate slowness of the Russians, which seriously undermines the combat capability and combat readiness of the Indian Air Force. Five years after the signing of the contract for the creation in India of repair facilities for servicing Su-30 aircraft based on HAL, there is no progress - except for “agreements” and promises, even at the level of defense ministries.

“Due to the unavailability of facilities for servicing the units and components, the serviceability of the Su-30MKI fighter fleet is gradually decreasing, and the need for AOG components for urgent replacement is growing,” the representatives of the plant in Nasik again implore in a demonstrative letter to Rosboronexport 24 December 2013. Even the revised deadlines obliged the Russians to organize on HAL by December 2013 repair and maintenance facilities, and by June 2014 to serve the first aircraft. Nothing of the kind is expected.

Even worse, Russia has suspended the dispatch of Sukhoi specialists to India to help organize repairs and maintenance. Documents that are in the possession of The Sunday Guardian, say that the parties bicker at the price. This is contrary to the agreement that the sending of Russian specialists will not be interrupted, even if the negotiations on prices have not been completed. In the absence of Russian specialists, HAL is forced to cope on its own, while the number of aircraft chained to the ground is growing.

“A huge number of defective parts are lying around at various Air Force bases in anticipation of repair,” representatives of HAL said, also reporting that the number of Su-30 fighters that are not performing flights in anticipation of urgent repairs is increasing. The Russians were informed that five Su-30MKIs are already in HAL in anticipation of a major overhaul, and 15 should be repaired this year. This number is equivalent to the whole squadron.




While complaining about the delays of the Russian side, HAL expresses even more helplessness: “Rosoboronexport and Irkut Corporation (main parties to the contract) seem to have limited influence on other Russian companies (which supply vital parts, such as engines).” Supplies of consumables and secondment of specialists by other companies are even more irregular.

Warning that the operation of fighters without permanent elimination of repetitive faults may affect pilots' confidence in themselves, Air Marshal PS Ahluwalia (PS Ahluwalia), who recently headed the Western Command of the Indian Air Force, addresses questions about the deplorable state of affairs to the representatives of HAL and the Ministry of Defense of India: “The problem is in the errors of service management organization. Responsibility lies with the Defense Production Department of the Ministry of Defense. They could not solve these problems. ”


Vishal Jolapara - Indian Aviation Photographers | airliners.net


Marshal Ahluwalia didn’t doubt for three months to ban flights of the MiG-29 fighter jets for three months as the head of the Western Command of the Indian Air Force, when after the crash of one aircraft there were suspicions about their suitability for operation. He allowed them to fly again only after the maintenance problem was solved.

The figures show how acute the Su-30MKI serviceability problem is for the Indian Air Force. Only 50% of these fighters are in a flightable condition. For the French Mirage-2000 as part of the Indian Air Force, and even for Russian MiG-29 fighters, this figure is approximately 75%. While India is bargaining with Russia for more favorable conditions of service, a reasonable question arises: what kind of good is weaponswhich can not be used?
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  1. itr
    itr 19 March 2014 10: 37
    -9
    Dry spoiled
    it's time to shoot the gene dir there
    1. Curculum
      Curculum 19 March 2014 10: 42
      +18
      Quote: itr
      Dry spoiled

      Maybe, but you should read the following again:
      Air Marshal P.S. Ahluwalia (PS Ahluwalia), who recently headed the Western Command of the Indian Air Force, addresses questions about the deplorable state of affairs to representatives of HAL and the Indian Defense Ministry: “The problem is in the organization of service management. Responsibility lies with the Department of Defense Production of the Ministry of Defense. It was they who could not solve these problems. ”
      1. itr
        itr 19 March 2014 11: 05
        0
        curcul
        I think it’s ours all the same pulling rubber
        it's my opinion
        1. Curculum
          Curculum 19 March 2014 11: 16
          +6
          Quote: itr
          I think it’s ours all the same pulling rubber

          Everything can be, everything can become ... But for me personally, the opinion of the acting air marshal prevails.
          1. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 19 March 2014 14: 04
            +3
            Quote: Kurkul
            Quote: itr
            I think it’s ours all the same pulling rubber

            Everything can be, everything can become ... But for me personally, the opinion of the acting air marshal prevails.


            Since last year, there has been a tendency to lie about Russian equipment. Apparently a lot of money comes to someone.
        2. irk_tma
          irk_tma 19 March 2014 11: 17
          +2
          but I think that you should read the article more carefully, and not through the line and not look for a double bottom in them
          this is not a statement by the Foreign Ministry to you
      2. Goodmen
        Goodmen 19 March 2014 11: 42
        +4
        Quote: Kurkul
        Air Marshal P.S. Ahluwalia (PS Ahluwalia), who recently headed the Western Command of the Indian Air Force, addresses questions about the deplorable state of affairs to representatives of HAL and the Indian Defense Ministry: “The problem is in the organization of service management. Responsibility lies with the Department of Defense Production of the Ministry of Defense. It was they who could not solve these problems. ”


        I recalled a joke. To this topic))))))

        Joint Sino-Soviet space flight. The first Chinese astronaut in orbit !!! As part of the Soviet crew, respectively.
        After a certain time, the astronauts return to Earth, followed by a press conference. And here the attention of journalists was attracted by the hands of the Chinese - all the brushes are blue!
        He is asked, they say, what is it, why, what happened?
        The Chinese man replies: "And during the time of the pallet, the Lusskaya tovalishcha beat me on bows and said - NOTHING, DO NOT TOUCH PADLA WITH HANDS!"
        1. Curculum
          Curculum 19 March 2014 11: 54
          +4
          Quote: Goodmen
          I recalled a joke. To this topic

          laughing good
      3. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 19 March 2014 14: 02
        +1
        Quote: Kurkul
        Quote: itr
        Dry spoiled

        Maybe, but you should read the following again:
        Air Marshal P.S. Ahluwalia (PS Ahluwalia), who recently headed the Western Command of the Indian Air Force, addresses questions about the deplorable state of affairs to representatives of HAL and the Indian Defense Ministry: “The problem is in the organization of service management. Responsibility lies with the Department of Defense Production of the Ministry of Defense. It was they who could not solve these problems. ”


        I knew that the problem was money. More precisely, the money is paid to the Indians so that the planes do not fly.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 19 March 2014 10: 43
      +8
      Hindus and lovers of muddy water themselves ...
    3. dm98
      dm98 19 March 2014 10: 45
      +21
      that today it hurts a lot of articles directed against Russia on the site appeared !!!
      Someone here said that the site was not registered in Russia at all!
      It seems that this is an information war! Moreover, on the military-patriotic site of Russia! Be careful friends, filter the information.
      1. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 19 March 2014 11: 08
        +9
        Quote: dm98
        It seems that this is an information war! Moreover, on the military-patriotic site of Russia! Be careful friends, filter the information.

        Of course, the information war. I don’t know about the site, but it’s too late to filter the market, each of us has a wonderful dossier - open the profile and all our comments. At least let the Gestapo for questioning! belay
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 19 March 2014 11: 26
          +3
          Quote: TAMERLAN 7
          dossier - open the profile and all our statements. At least let the Gestapo for questioning!

          And this is called persecution mania. laughing
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 11: 33
            +1
            If you are an interesting conversationalist, why not read it?
          2. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 19 March 2014 12: 21
            +1
            And this is called persecution mania.
            This is called living in a democratic Bandera Ukraine, and in the western region .....
            I am very glad that you, living in Russia, do not understand me, God forbid you to continue to understand .....
            1. lelikas
              lelikas 19 March 2014 14: 42
              0
              If your profile contains a home address and a phone number - this is one thing, but to be afraid that "I will figure it out by ip" is quite another, believe me, there are enough problems without it.
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        3. creak
          creak 19 March 2014 11: 39
          +1
          TAMERLANY 7

          As the same chief of the Gestapo, Müller, Stirlitz justly remarked: "Do not imagine yourself to be a figure equal to Churchill ...". They won't lead, don't worry.
          1. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 19 March 2014 12: 28
            +1
            Churchill didn’t lead the Gestapo. And they won’t lead me ....
            Let them take it first! bully
            The address will not be calculated! Conspiracy!
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            2. creak
              creak 19 March 2014 12: 50
              +1
              Well, rightly spilled elusive Joe from a famous joke ...
              1. TAMERLAN 7
                TAMERLAN 7 19 March 2014 14: 04
                -1
                Quote: ranger
                Well, rightly spilled elusive Joe from a famous joke ...

                I really hope that like the elusive Joe - no one needs anybody! wink
            3. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 14: 29
              -1
              taught step Bandera?
              1. afdjhbn67
                afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 15: 15
                0
                what to minus, then I'm talking about kansirceyu (ha ha)
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 19 March 2014 11: 25
        +1
        Quote: dm98
        More careful friends, filter the information.

        - This is called censorship.
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        2. dm98
          dm98 19 March 2014 12: 42
          +1
          Quote: lelikas
          - This is called censorship.

          yes let it be called whatever you like! By the way, censorship should also be!
          What do you think should be done with frankly deceitful and provocative materials? forbid my opinion.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 19 March 2014 14: 47
            0
            Quote: dm98
            What do you think should be done with frankly deceitful and provocative materials? forbid my opinion

            To do this, we have our own head behind us, not the fact that everything is a lie, n ** dezh and provocation - we really do not shine in terms of service.
            Do you want a reason for fair anger? - the plane on the site logo is not ours !!!! laughing
      3. Tiamat2702
        Tiamat2702 19 March 2014 11: 29
        +7
        Quote: dm98
        that today it hurts a lot of articles directed against Russia on the site appeared !!!
        Someone here said that the site was not registered in Russia at all!
        It seems that this is an information war! Moreover, on the military-patriotic site of Russia! Be careful friends, filter the information.

        Patriotism is not to publish only positive articles about Russia, but to reflect objective facts (including both positive and negative).
        1. Thompson
          Thompson 19 March 2014 11: 47
          +2
          truth and self-criticism are the key to successful development!
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 15: 18
          0
          everything is known in comparison, if it’s too boring to pick up info it will become boring, because few of us are sitting on the same top var
      4. The comment was deleted.
      5. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 March 2014 11: 44
        +2
        Quote: dm98
        Today it hurts a lot of articles directed against Russia on the site appeared !!!

        Not only praise alone, criticism is also needed. And who breathes with what, it’s also good to know!
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    5. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 11: 01
      +3
      in order to reorient themselves to the Americans, they took a couple of computer errors and put them in tragedy ...
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 11: 36
        +1
        ps if Pakistan moves. It seems to me that all our "dry" ones will be in service again, the Indian army has already tried this with Abrams (tanks) ...
    6. Rustam
      Rustam 19 March 2014 11: 19
      +3
      I find much out of the blue, but not all problems with after-sales service and spare parts supply are not a secret to anyone, and Rosoboron is ahead of the rest in this indicatorfrom the end


      And about the fact that Rosoboron likes to twist its hands, about the service is not a secret, the Malaysians at the time cried and complained about Rosoboron-about the service and delivery of spare parts.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 11: 37
        +1
        Yes there were flaws fixed in the place with the performers ...
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 15: 19
        0
        Have you been to Kualumpur? (joke)
    7. alone
      alone 19 March 2014 18: 09
      +1
      Quote: itr
      Dry spoiled
      it's time to shoot the gene dir there


      If you need to remove. A little loss.

      And as for the fact that half of the planes are riveted and not flying, I will say this. Lucky technology. Knowing about the Hindu pilots by hearsay, I’m sure that if these planes flew, half of them would be killed by pilots laughing
  2. domokl
    domokl 19 March 2014 10: 41
    +12
    And what is the use of buying the latest samples and serving as antediluvian?
  3. uhu189
    uhu189 19 March 2014 10: 44
    +5
    Well, in the article, the vision of the problem is stated only from one side. It is a pity that there are no comments from Rosoboronexport ... It's rather difficult to judge that.
  4. svp67
    svp67 19 March 2014 10: 45
    +11
    And the article is with a "smell" ...
  5. pts-m
    pts-m 19 March 2014 10: 46
    -3
    Yes, most likely in Russia there is no one to send to the Indians. Modern specialists from the young and early immediately set the conditions for salary, although they did not do the maintenance of the equipment either.
    1. svp67
      svp67 19 March 2014 13: 11
      +1
      Quote: PTS-m
      Yes, most likely in Russia there is no one to send to the Indians.
      That's why, but there is no end to those who wish, and cool specialists ... Here the matter is somewhat different. Newspaper article - not a specific request for their arrival. and yet, the Indian side has recently begun to show too much "independence", for the frequent unnecessary and irresponsible cases with the PL and T90, this is a clear confirmation
  6. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus 19 March 2014 10: 48
    +8
    it seems that the problem is that the Indians, as well as the submarines, use their home-grown security and, possibly, the replacement of the s / h production of India. After all, these aircraft were made for them with their active participation.
  7. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 19 March 2014 10: 48
    +1
    Maybe a spetsatnik may sit a thread and work out money for damaged equipment. It's my personal opinion.
  8. sscha
    sscha 19 March 2014 10: 49
    0
    Again we shit into the "well" from which we drink water ??? !!! No. hi
  9. Antibrim
    Antibrim 19 March 2014 10: 52
    +5
    as far as I remember, in those fighters that Indians use on-board computers not Russian but foreign ones.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 19 March 2014 11: 09
      +2
      Quote: AntiBrim
      as far as I remember, in those fighters that Indians use on-board computers not Russian but foreign ones.

      as if a French filling ... I won’t lie, I don’t remember! who is aware ??? request
    2. Fin
      Fin 19 March 2014 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: AntiBrim
      as far as I remember, in those fighters that Indians use on-board computers not Russian but foreign ones.

      Yes, most likely a foreign or their development is inserted. Solyanka made and now scratch turnips. As well as with thermal protection and radar Gorshkova.
  10. Alexey M
    Alexey M 19 March 2014 10: 54
    -14%
    Welcome to the Russian auto industry! Oh excuse the aviation industry.
  11. Sergei75
    Sergei75 19 March 2014 10: 56
    -4
    No, well, the Indians can bargain, although ours either consider the Indian market to be lost and are trying to make money, or the Indians have turned down the price "do it for us."
    In other cases, it turns out dry chopping the branch on which ROSOBORONEXORT is sitting.
  12. Gagarin
    Gagarin 19 March 2014 11: 00
    -1
    There will be BIG CLEANING ON THE CARPET.
    Poghosyan has something to think about.
  13. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 19 March 2014 11: 02
    +3
    chained to the ground due to unresolved service disagreements with Russian manufacturers.

    While India is trading with Russia for more favorable terms of service

    They just want to squeeze cheaper from us. I think officials paid by someone (how many scandals there were, then one company, then another) put ours in unpleasant conditions, delays, descredit, refusal.
  14. silver169
    silver169 19 March 2014 11: 04
    +12
    Yes, not Sukhoi, but the Indians were overgrown. They do not know how to work and do not want to. All the aircraft and armored vehicles bought and manufactured in Russia work perfectly for them, but the whole assembly in India itself under a license refuses to work. The quality of the assembly is disgusting. This applies not only to the Su-30 MKI, but also to the T-90S tanks also assembled in India under license. Another problem, the Indians are trying to save money wherever possible and do not always do it reasonably. In particular, when buying T-90C tanks, they refuse the air conditioners they offer that are simply necessary for the trouble-free operation of the electronics and crew. A similar case with Sushki ...
    1. Tiamat2702
      Tiamat2702 19 March 2014 11: 41
      +2
      Quote: silver169
      Yes, not Sukhoi, but the Indians were overgrown. They do not know how to work and do not want to. All the aircraft and armored vehicles bought and manufactured in Russia work perfectly for them, but the whole assembly in India itself under a license refuses to work. The quality of the assembly is disgusting. This applies not only to the Su-30 MKI, but also to the T-90S tanks also assembled in India under license. Another problem, the Indians are trying to save money wherever possible and do not always do it reasonably. In particular, when buying T-90C tanks, they refuse the air conditioners they offer that are simply necessary for the trouble-free operation of the electronics and crew. A similar case with Sushki ...

      So I think the first deliveries of Sushka to India were about 10 years ago, but the problem only appeared in the 13th? Kind of weird. )
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    3. military
      military 19 March 2014 11: 57
      0
      Quote: silver169
      Yes, not Sukhoi, but the Indians were overgrown. They do not know how to work and do not want to. All the aircraft and armored vehicles bought and manufactured in Russia work perfectly for them, but the whole assembly in India itself under a license refuses to work. The quality of the assembly is disgusting.

      maybe it's not about the quality of the assembly ... it's just that the RKTD kit, handed over to the Indians as part of the organization of licensed production, does not contain some specific "nuances" ... Uncle Petya and Uncle Fedya, performing a number of operations at Russian enterprises about these nuances, who have not found reflection in the RCTD, they know ... and have long been accustomed to doing something by default ... as a matter of course ... but the grimy Indian simply does not know about them ... wink
    4. lelikas
      lelikas 19 March 2014 14: 50
      +1
      Quote: silver169
      but also T-90S tanks also assembled in India under license

      Well, with tanks this is already a classic - to blame us for the fact that the tanks assembled in India are hot and there is no air conditioning - we still had to think of such things.
  15. Zamachus
    Zamachus 19 March 2014 11: 08
    +5
    Indians stupid submarines killed almost everything because of illiteracy, and now the air fleet finishes them only a horse and you can trust a saber (and then cut yourself)
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 11: 39
      0
      May Krishna help them ..
  16. Tiamat2702
    Tiamat2702 19 March 2014 11: 08
    +6
    failures during the flight of the on-board computers of the Su-30 and the shutdown of all multifunction displays.
    Excuse me, dear, but is the Russian avionics and on-board electronics really on Indian Dryers? If I am not mistaken, then there is a hodgepodge of Europe-Israel-India. And if so, then where are our manufacturers and suppliers? Moreover, HAL Och likes to transfer arrows to others, since the potency itself does not have enough technical knowledge to correspond to a certain level.
  17. Nayhas
    Nayhas 19 March 2014 11: 09
    0
    Gentlemen, commentators, the problem is not that it breaks, but that the plug is being repaired.
  18. Alexander I
    Alexander I 19 March 2014 11: 10
    -2
    And then we are surprised - why are we losing tenders? request
  19. VL33
    VL33 19 March 2014 11: 12
    +3
    Moreover, the Indians economically approached their tanks, decided not to install air conditioners. They have almost the north. Now they are tormented and complain that the equipment does not work well in tanks and tankers feel very bad at +65. Probably they stuck their development again or approached the issue economically, now they want to repair it economically.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 19 March 2014 11: 42
      +1
      on Hindu psychology it doesn’t really matter the Naglosak mentality ... colonial thinking you see, birthmarks of colonialism ..
  20. kelevra
    kelevra 19 March 2014 11: 14
    +3
    I don’t know what the reason is, but India is not fulfilling its part of the contract. They must take over 70% of the repairs themselves, this is stated in the documents on deliveries and further maintenance, and now they want to rewrite it so that our specialists do all the repairs for our score.
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 19 March 2014 12: 24
      0
      The mean time between failures for new aircraft should not be such a system error somewhere.
  21. LONER
    LONER 19 March 2014 11: 14
    +5
    They were warned that the Russian side is not responsible for the jambs caused by the fact that the assembly of the aircraft will take place not in Russian specialists in Russia but in Indian India, get a sign.
    1. wizarden
      wizarden 19 March 2014 11: 54
      0
      We should have banned the use of the Su brand when assembling in India. Let them call it in their own way. And now the reputation of our aircraft manufacturers is also tarnished, even if the wine is on the pickers in India.
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  23. siberalt
    siberalt 19 March 2014 11: 19
    +2
    I immediately remembered the fire on their boat. Tu, too, the Indians themselves undertook to serve. They don’t want to sit on ... but serve the fish. He is a business and business in India.
  24. Hal_valera
    Hal_valera 19 March 2014 11: 43
    +1
    And the problem is with Admiral Gorshkov, they also noted there, although ours warned them.
  25. igorra
    igorra 19 March 2014 11: 48
    +4
    Listen to more Indians, yes our paid ones. For a year, no one answered the requests. Yeah Rogozin is sleeping and does not see anything, but Putin would have pulled all the interested asses on Kukan, every bucks is now on the account. I think that the Indians, as always, asked for electronics-avionics, put it on the western one, so it hangs. Yes, remember how they carried the brain to us on an aircraft carrier.
  26. bender8282
    bender8282 19 March 2014 11: 56
    0
    ashamed, comrades !!!
  27. upasika1918
    upasika1918 19 March 2014 12: 04
    +3
    The article is complete crap. Marshal Denzil Keelor ​​(born 1933) HONORARY PENSIONARY OF ALL INDIA since (attention) 1991! Gentlemen, fellow members of the forum, writing comments and putting plus signs is a pleasant thing. But googling the names is helpful too. Now about the "authors". Periscope website2. A very interesting publication. Unsigned article. The sale of arms is a business so dark and corrupt that those who are in it will not just open their mittens. Any public article has very specific goals. And the signature of the Hero of India is expensive. Very expensive. Everyone knows that the Indian Armed Forces are going through a systemic crisis amid economic problems. And the fight for orders, contracts, deliveries and kickbacks is terrible. Well, almost almost legalized corruption and nepotism are such that it is surprising how they generally buy anything. The comments of some on the forum are simply ridiculous.
  28. DMB-75
    DMB-75 19 March 2014 12: 04
    0
    The business then develops when the tailors trust each other, and when the scam begins, it is already a crime. hi
  29. Alexey M
    Alexey M 19 March 2014 12: 12
    +1
    Gentlemen minusers fans of the domestic auto industry? Or offensive to the state?
    US in Russia did not have, and most likely will not have, a decent service base, and this applies to all cars, planes, tanks, televisions, plumbing, housing and communal services, anything. That’s why we are all our own masters. Well, Indians don’t know how to repair airplanes and that's it their hands are sharpened under a banana. So why is it difficult to establish a normal service center in India?
  30. Arh
    Arh 19 March 2014 12: 16
    +1
    India is our strategist partner, ally, India is a wonderful country that believes and loves Russia! ! ! * * *
  31. Gagarin
    Gagarin 19 March 2014 12: 39
    +1
    HOW TIRED BY QUIET MINUSTERS!
    I stuck a minus sign (not only to me) - well, explain, enlighten the illiterate, I will only be grateful for science.
    How schoolchildren are right!
    Whoever likes this quiet minus one can and here minus one!
  32. Pimply
    Pimply 19 March 2014 12: 47
    +1
    Too little data to draw conclusions
    1. PLO
      PLO 19 March 2014 17: 45
      +1
      more than enough data
      this is another attempt to move the arrows
      in a contract with Rafales, the Indians also wanted to make the French responsible for the quality of the aircraft assembled on the HAL, but for some reason the French doubt it)
  33. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 19 March 2014 13: 21
    0
    It’s interesting how things are going with the repair in the Air Force, not the same problems.
  34. Andrey_Irkutsk
    Andrey_Irkutsk 19 March 2014 14: 31
    +1
    I myself work for IAPO "Irkut", there were no such workers as Indians even in the USSR, stupid and lazy. They pull planes to take off with elephants, and even complex electronic technology is generally something supernatural for them.
  35. PLO
    PLO 19 March 2014 17: 40
    +2
    ha .. smart-ass Indians are again trying to throw the problem from a sore head to a healthy one
    all problems with the Su-30MKI HAL assembly, where they are collected through the Indian ass)
  36. k19
    k19 19 March 2014 18: 36
    +1
    so in india our planes do not fly, and submarines do not float. there is always some kind of infa that Russian bullshit is being pushed for export. in my opinion, it’s just unpleasant for someone that they’re not acquiring his weapons.
  37. ankh-andrej
    ankh-andrej 19 March 2014 19: 04
    0
    So the Indians were guilty. There is nothing to sit on two chairs. One won out already. And then the helicopters from the Americans, the planes from the custodians. Here they are and ask for cheap service. Onet discuss.