Cyril Benedict: If tomorrow is war

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Now in Ukraine begins a civil war. It directly affects the interests of Russia. Therefore, Russia's intervention in these events - protection from plague rats that can bring an epidemic.

On the night of 14 on 15 on April 1986, the United States conducted the operation "Eldorado Canyon": 100 combat aircraft, attack aircraft and bombers, dealt a massive blow to the Libyan cities of Tripoli and Benghazi.

These events have long been forgotten, although some details of that long-standing crisis may seem almost fantastic today: for example, Italy and Germany refused to give permission to the Americans to use their air bases, and France and Spain closed their airspace for aviation USA.

It was still a completely different, bipolar world, and the Americans were still wary of behaving like the coolest kid in the area. However, the bipolar world was already rolling towards its infamous decline, and therefore the reaction of the mighty Soviet Union to the Americans ’aggression against friendly Libya was modestly indecent: Moscow only canceled the planned visit to the US of Foreign Minister Edward Shevardnadze, as it turned out, much more sympathetic free america than totalitarian ussr.

However, at the level of mass consciousness, everything was not so good.

I remember those cool April days very well. I studied at the evening department of the Department of History at Moscow State University and worked in the protection of the Pushkin Museum on Kropotkinskaya (now Prechistenka). Our team was a good, friendly, although somewhat hooligan - so, I remember, once we were not allowed into the archives of the museum of Nathan Aidelman, who had forgotten the pass by absent mindedness. Adelman, of course, complained to the director, and was followed by repression. But it is completely different. story.

We had a senior, not by position, but by age and experience — a peasant in his forties, grated-frayed, beaten-broken, with a broken nose and flattened wrestler's ears. His name was Kostyan, but I can’t remember his middle name now. He had a rich biography, even if a novel was written. And not to say that he somehow particularly loved Soviet power.

When, on the morning of April 15, we all discussed the Americans ’raid on Libya, Kostyan said:

- Of course, you need to extinguish these goats. It's time to fight, stagnant.

Many, especially my peers, were extremely belligerently in those times. Not so long ago, the blockbuster "Single Voyage" appeared on the screens, in which our Marines three of us soaked a whole military base of Americans.

By the way, I still consider it a big mistake of the Soviet propaganda machine that there are not a dozen of such films produced annually. For patriotic education, a properly chosen image of the enemy is far more important than the flag, the emblem and the anthem combined.

But when everyone began to enthusiastically develop this topic (with the exception of one of our colleagues, also a student of the History Department, now a fairly well-known historian), Kostyan gloomily added:

- Only children like you cannot be thrown at them (at Americans). This business for us, muzhiks.

Two years remained before the withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan. The theme “yesterday's schoolchildren are being sent to Afgan for certain death” was extremely popular in the kitchen conversations of the older generation.

“Collect people like me,” Kostyan developed the theme, “and send Libya to this one ... Let them break up, we shall ... break them in ...”

His militaristic plans were never realized, and I think there would not have been many enthusiasts to die for distant Libya.

Why did I now recall this conversation, which took place nearly thirty years ago in a smoky room of the museum’s guard?

Because the events of the last days in Ukraine extremely excited the creative part of our society. And now, on the one hand, there are calls for our troops to enter Ukraine, on the other, they are proposing to draw up the first battalion of children and grandchildren of supporters of military intervention, urgently removed from Switzerland, the United States and Great Britain, and on the third to close the borders tightly and not a single cubic meter of gas. no longer supply the former fraternal republic.

Political technologist Gleb Pavlovsky calls "Koktebel warriors," climbing "from under the mattress with shouts of" To Kiev! We will die for the Crimea! ”Bastard and hired provocateurs. This is especially piquant to hear from a man who put a lot of effort into propaganda for the two Chechen wars.

Philosopher Sergey Roganov writes: “This is my war! This is my blood and pain! ”- and it finds quite predictable approval from those who want to see Russia strong, inspiring fear and respect.

My good friend Dima Volodikhin, referring to the “idiots who are calling for the introduction of Russian troops into Ukraine,” declares: “Do you know what? Go by yourself. And I do not want our boys to die there. ”

It is unlikely that any of them will be interested in my humble opinion, but this is what I think about this.

Now in Ukraine begins a civil war. It directly affects the interests of Russia and the Russians. Therefore, Russia's intervention in these events is not “burning napalm of feces in someone else’s outhouse,” as Volodykhin writes, but rather protection from plague rats that can bring an epidemic to our blessed penates.

I do not understand my colleagues, the Russian nationalists, who rejoice at the victories of the rebels in Kiev, seeing in it only the defeat and humiliation of Putin. Comrades, Putin will leave, but the Russian people will remain. And Russophobic, Western Ukraine, which you welcome, will also remain. And the NATO base in half an hour from Belgorod, too. If someone proves to me that NATO bases are what is necessary and good for the Russian people, I am ready to reconsider my opinion.

Therefore, I, of course, for the intervention of Russia in the Ukrainian crisis. And with all my soul I call on those who call for the defense of the Russians in the Crimea and in the south-east “with all the power and glory.” But there is one important circumstance.

I am sure that only those who are ready to go to Ukraine in the ranks of armed groups have the moral right to call for such a thing. Volunteers, or, as they said in the Russian Empire, "hunters." Those who prefer to call for war, sitting in a comfortable chair with a cup of coffee or a can of beer in their hands, and watering the imaginary enemy with bursts fired from the laptop keyboard, let them shut up and remain silent in a rag.

As for me, if Russia starts military operations in Ukraine, I will go to my district military registration and enlistment office. I do not know whether the benefit of an elderly fat man, who last time was holding a military weapon in 2008 year. But at least for something, God will give, be pleased.

The wife, of course, will be against it. But in such cases, the men of women do not listen.
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  1. +6
    24 February 2014 06: 41
    As for me, if Russia nevertheless begins military operations in Ukraine, I will go to my regional military registration and enlistment office.

    They will call themselves.
    1. +11
      24 February 2014 07: 02
      Meanwhile, in Sevastopol, they removed the Ukrainian flag from the municipality and hanged the Russian. The measure was also removed and put its laughing
      1. +19
        24 February 2014 07: 31
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Meanwhile, in Sevastopol, they removed the Ukrainian flag from the municipality and hanged the Russian. The measure was also removed and put its

        continue positive ..
        1. +4
          24 February 2014 07: 41
          Quote: Denis
          continue positive ..

          Speaking of Yulka, Yarosh is against her engaging in politics. As I understand it, they met and did not agree. In general, Yulka flies, like plywood over the Storage.
          1. +7
            24 February 2014 07: 43
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Speaking of Yulka, Yarosh is against her engaging in politics. As I understand it, they met and did not agree. In general, Yulka flies, like plywood at the Storage.

            I think Yulka will spoil all the maidan’s blood yet, laughing
            1. 0
              24 February 2014 09: 21
              Quote: Denis
              I think Yulka spoil all the blood

              She won’t be able to do anything with the Right Sector, the same fanatics are there. She’ll unscrew Bashka and that's it.
            2. AVV
              +1
              24 February 2014 10: 33
              Quote: Denis
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Speaking of Yulka, Yarosh is against her engaging in politics. As I understand it, they met and did not agree. In general, Yulka flies, like plywood at the Storage.

              I think Yulka will spoil all the maidan’s blood yet, laughing

              Julia is that Trojan horse that will take part of the votes by itself !!!
          2. 0
            25 February 2014 13: 02
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yarosh was against her engaging in politics. As I understand it, they met and did not agree. In general, Yulka flies, like plywood over the Storage.

            Yes, apparently. An open letter addressed to Tymoshenko was published on the page of the Right Sector (they even made a Russian-language version). The meaning was this: In view of your criminal record, "we are forced to refuse to consider your resume to fill a vacancy," and they say, do not wash yourself for the post of prime minister either. Maximum you can lead any faction in the Verkhovna Rada. While we are giving you a chance to save face - withdraw your candidacy.
            What is more alarming is that the Right Sector is trying to gain Russian confidence in the Southeast and Crimea. On their page is an appeal to Russian-speaking citizens: we are not Russophobes and not fascists, in general we are an offshoot of the Trident - and this is an anti-fascist organization. We do not oppress Russians and do not prohibit the Russian language, etc., etc.
            This move apparently had some success. On the same page there was a message from a "Russian nationalist from the Crimea" that a detachment of Maidan people, with the support of Russian Crimeans, wanted to demolish a monument to Lenin, but the Crimean Tatars prevented them.
        2. +1
          24 February 2014 08: 53
          continue positive ..

          Unlike played! Vysotsky turned out better! And this is some kind of grandmother-beater! laughing
      2. 0
        24 February 2014 12: 33
        And at the same time. Not a single normal decision was made at the Kharkiv congress, the Kharkiv authorities decided within 3 days to solve the problem of demolishing the Lenin monument, the Maydan go around the Kharkiv administration, nobody touches them. There are militants in the square; no one is touching them either. In Dnepropetrovsk, a monument to Lenin was demolished, not a single resident of the city came to the defense. The Crimean governor completely refused the statements of the mayor of Sevastopol, etc. And I believe that it was not Russia who threw Ukraine, but vice versa.
    2. +7
      24 February 2014 07: 25
      offer to make the first battalion of children and grandchildren of supporters of military intervention, urgently exported from Switzerland, the United States and Great Britain

      Strictly after completing this paragraph. Children of the leaders of the USSR fought in the Second World War, as Comrade Stalin said, "What can I tell other fathers ?!"
      1. +4
        24 February 2014 07: 45
        Those were other children and, especially, other leaders of an even more different country. And certainly it was a different war. Of the current offhand only Pulikovsky’s son I remember who died in Chechnya, the rest somehow did not light up on a military field. Yes, in the event of an open armed confrontation between the West-Central part of Ukraine and the South-East, it will be a war for the survival of the Russian people. The current leadership of Russia is unlikely to send its children to fight for this, it’s much more familiar that they wave their hands in the direction of the main blow, capturing all the enemies with the forces of one landing ... (well, then you yourself know).
        1. +5
          24 February 2014 08: 10
          I think that this bitch, to complete the image of a fighter with the regime, forgot to knock her tooth out in a prominent place and draw a fingal.
          1. 0
            24 February 2014 08: 47
            Nitsche Julia will soon get drunk on the blood of infants and get better magically
    3. 0
      24 February 2014 19: 25
      Quote: pan_nor
      As for me, if Russia nevertheless begins military operations in Ukraine, I will go to my regional military registration and enlistment office.


      They will call themselves.


      They will not have time. The military enlistment offices still have to "decide" whose they are.
  2. +5
    24 February 2014 06: 58
    Everything is correct. We talked a lot about Syria, etc. And at that time the plague rats were gradually undermining fraternal Ukraine. And now - the war is already on the doorstep. The policy "maybe it will resolve itself" is pernicious. Are we going to rely on the notorious Russian "maybe" again?

    As for the author's legitimate irony about the "Internet fighters", I think there will be volunteers. Let them be few. But these will be proven, ideological fighters.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 08: 56
      I think it will be enough to provide the southeast of Ukraine with weapons and military specialists.
  3. +12
    24 February 2014 06: 59
    I am sure that only those who are ready to go to Ukraine in the ranks of armed groups have the moral right to call for this.
    From an unprepared person in the war, there will be exactly zero sense. Only a headache for commanders. Everyone should do their own thing. If possible.
    1. +2
      24 February 2014 07: 16
      How many are we going to recruit now? The policy of recent years on training in the Armed Forces leaves much to be desired ... You cannot learn a soldier in one year, half of which he runs with a mop, and the second is already "not supposed to be in service"!
      1. wanderer_032
        +6
        24 February 2014 07: 42
        Quote: Dormidont
        It is impossible to train a soldier in one year, half of which he runs with a mop, and the second is already "not supposed to be in service"!

        On this topic, I want to add that in two and three years, too, if a soldier instead of real combat training is engaged in household work or swells from idleness lying on his bed, or even does hell (which is often not uncommon in our army, unfortunately )
        And on the contrary, if a soldier is mainly engaged in it, then in a year (and even in a much shorter period of 3-6 months) you can prepare an excellent fighter out of him, who is able to carry out any combat mission within his military specialty.
        1. +1
          24 February 2014 09: 22
          Quote: wanderer_032
          And on the contrary, if a soldier is mainly engaged in it, then in a year (and even in a much shorter period of 3-6 months) you can prepare an excellent fighter out of him, who is able to carry out any combat mission within his military specialty.

          no, for half a year it’s not real, for a year it’s quite possible to properly prepare, if you are not distracted by all sorts of crap not included in combat training.
          1. 0
            24 February 2014 19: 06
            Quote: PSih2097
            no, for half a year it’s not real, for a year it’s quite possible to properly prepare, if not distracted by all sorts of crap not included in combat training


            If you do not spare the rookie, and most importantly yourself, then the moto-shooter can be perfectly prepared in three months, and with great need and desire, for one and a half. soldier
            The truth finishes the preparation of a real battle, but it can not be replaced by any training periods.
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    3. 0
      24 February 2014 09: 10
      absolutely agree
  4. -8
    24 February 2014 07: 07
    As for me, if Russia nevertheless begins military operations in Ukraine, I will go to my regional military registration and enlistment office. I don’t know whether it will be useful for a middle-aged fat man who last held a military weapon in his hands in 2008. But at least for something, God will give, I am fit.

    Strange article, strange sayings. Reminds agitation of past years.
    That the war has already begun, that they are trying to agitate us so much?
    1. +7
      24 February 2014 08: 49
      Nobody agitates you. Take it easy. This is the opinion of a man. Spineless does not concern. War has long been going on if you did not know.
      1. +1
        24 February 2014 11: 23
        Quote: Svetlana
        This is the opinion of a man. Spineless does not concern.


        My applause rolling into a standing ovation! The hall rises soldier ! And ... shows APASUS negative
    2. -1
      24 February 2014 08: 49
      maybe people just wanted to print? there is not much sense and emotions are also invisible
      1. -3
        24 February 2014 18: 10
        Especially for
        Svetlana  Today, 08:49 ↑
        SHILO (1)  Today, 11:23 ↑
        afdjhbn67  Today, 08:49 ↑
        And you never know whether you’re not catching up the first time, I’ll specially highlight you, my dear hamsters!
        Do not judge by yourself about others ..........
        if Russia does start hostilities in Ukraine

        Once again for the slow-witted WE ALREADY WAR ON THE UKRAINE?
        1. 0
          24 February 2014 21: 26
          I so somewhere assumed.
          We are all gossiping, and not one of you has answered the question.
          My dear hamsters ............
  5. +1
    24 February 2014 07: 11
    Now in Ukraine begins a civil war. It directly affects the interests of Russia and the Russians. Therefore, Russia's intervention in these events is not “burning napalm of feces in someone else’s outhouse,” as Volodykhin writes, but rather protection from plague rats that can bring an epidemic to our blessed penates.
    Gold words. If nothing is opposed to this plague, the next we are. History repeats itself, as it did 100 years ago. Do we need such upheavals and the destruction of the nation? Get up Stalin, get up baby, mummified youngsters on the Maidan, Stalin got up, spread his hands, do fulis.. You can safely say that the enemy is at the gate.
  6. +3
    24 February 2014 07: 16
    The moral right of every citizen of Russia to demand the security of his country. The point is not, "but go yourself," and you would go, but our state, our government, should have a policy of protecting both Russia itself and Russians, and our national interests in general. The events in Ukraine are already a challenge, they are already on our doorstep! Why are we inactive, why does the West have the initiative? From Yugoslavia we got to Little Russia, tomorrow they will come to Russia itself. A rag, a coward and just a traitor Yanukovych, but how many of them are there in Russia, with real estate over the hill and accounts in the same place. They will sit in power, and after that all sorts of Luzhkovs and Chirkunovs leave Russia with what they have acquired by "back-breaking labor." If tomorrow is a war, will such people, in our power, bomb their accounts and apartments in the West, or will they be dumped in Kerensky, like Yanukovych? What will Putin do now, the question is, do not keep silent and do not sit out, otherwise it will be, if not a betrayal of the country, then cowardice and shortsightedness.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 09: 24
      Quote: Per se.
      and after all sorts of Luzhkov

      Well, the meadows in Könick keep the farm ...
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  7. 0
    24 February 2014 07: 27
    Russia slept through events in Ukraine, now it remains only to silently observe how Ukraine will integrate into the EU.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 07: 40
      ... how Ukraine will integrate into the EU.

      Too bad you think about the EU - to hang around your neck 45 million fascist non-state - Europeans are not clinical and ... you. Although, if we proceed from the logic "I will frostbite my grandmother's ears", then they can. Well then, blessed memory of the EU!
    2. +6
      24 February 2014 07: 51
      Just there to integrate into the EU, a new acting the tsar of all Ukraine (more precisely, interim) Turchinov had already strewed ash on his bald head, saying that the treasury was empty and the winter had not ended, there would soon be nothing to kill (the slurry was sworn, they were scribbled, and Yanukovych removed the remaining products when he ran away from the presidential residence ) So sho treba with a hat around the world to go, ask for pennies in the West.
    3. 0
      24 February 2014 08: 14
      Quote: regdan
      Russia slept through events in Ukraine, now it remains only to silently observe how Ukraine will integrate into the EU.
      each state of emergency has a name and a middle name. Who was the representative of Russia in Ukraine? Who appointed this person there? Who did not punish for sloppiness? Therefore, it is inappropriately to spread responsibility throughout the whole great homeland.
    4. 0
      24 February 2014 08: 51
      west, she will rinse her brain for many years with the entry; let the Ukrainians not even hope to end the industry and send in troops
  8. +4
    24 February 2014 07: 27
    Naturally, Russia does not have the moral and human right to stay away, the whole purpose of this mutiny is the collapse of Ukraine as a country, the Poles and Romanians will tear it apart, they still consider Western Ukraine to be their land, but these are our brothers and relatives and leave them under the fascist ax somehow it’s not humanly, the cousins ​​of the Serbs have already framed, now substitute the relatives? If so, then the penny will be Russian to us.
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 08: 17
      torn apart by Poles and Romanians, they still consider Western Ukraine to be their land,
      The integrity of Ukraine was guaranteed by Russia, the United States, Great Britain in return for the renunciation of nuclear weapons
  9. +6
    24 February 2014 07: 29
    The fact that Russia will not surrender Ukraine without a fight, I am sure. That's just the scale of this battle is not yet clear. But the fact that we - soldiers, sergeants and reserve officers need to be mentally prepared for this is a fact. 30-50 years old men broke the ridge of Hitler when the regular army was actually defeated
  10. +3
    24 February 2014 08: 16
    from Don. Regarding: machine gunners: Claudius, the author is right! Regarding mobilization, I think it will not be. Volunteers-I am ready, although I am 56, And my wife is already against it!
    But to go there when you are not asked, when everything is still in euphoria or in shock, when it is not clear with the central government, it’s not worth it. Although the internet has already started to go! Http: //politikus.ru/events/13440-na-ukrainu- vvodyatsya-rossiyskie-voys
    ka-source.html
  11. +5
    24 February 2014 08: 23
    “As for me, if Russia nevertheless starts hostilities in Ukraine, I will go to my district military registration and enlistment office. I don’t know whether it will be useful to have a middle-aged fat man who last held a military weapon in his hands in 2008. But at least for something, God willing, I'll burn.
    The wife, of course, will be against it. But in such cases, men don't listen to women. "
    -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------
    ------- Above, I quoted the words of the author of the article, which I fully subscribe to! I am 62, sick, but ready to fight our enemies! The only difference is that my wife does not mind at all!
  12. +6
    24 February 2014 08: 37
    I fully agree and support the author. Alas, the last time 20 shot from a cannon years ago :(, but where do the shells go, what is the firing table and how does the BRDM start - will remember your hands - they will help your head :)
    It is somehow strange that not everyone understands that the war has been going on for a long time, and not only against Russia as a geopolitical entity, but also against the Russian people as an ideological enemy. Even my daughter understands :) that the events in Ukraine are the forerunner of the same in Russia. This is no longer a war "on the doorstep" as in Libya and Syria, but already at home. Here, admit, who has no relatives in Ukraine, or have surnames in the family with "-ko"? In 1904, my great-grandmother moved from Belaya Tserkov to Siberia, some kind of relatives still live there, alas, with her death and the death of her grandmother, contacts somehow died out: (BUT - the feeling does not go anywhere that there is mine relatives and offend her ... And, I think, every person in Russia has someone more or less close in Ukraine. Therefore, the people there are literally our brothers and sisters, no matter what the politicians say - and ours and not ours - to protect from bandits as it was in the war - just SHOULD!
    1. 0
      24 February 2014 09: 33
      Quote: Egen
      I fully agree and support the author. Alas, the last time 20 shot from a cannon years ago :(, but where do the shells go, what is the firing table and how does the BRDM start - will remember your hands - they will help your head :)

      He fired from the mess only once, but there’s engineering intelligence ...
      And, I think, every person in Russia has someone more or less close in Ukraine. Therefore - the people there in the literal sense of our brothers and sisters, no matter what the politicians say - and ours and not ours - to protect from bandits, as it was already in the war, is simply NECESSARY!

      I support at 100%.
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    3. 0
      24 February 2014 09: 34
      a couple of years ago I read the book the third world war alternative, so there the script is the same nostradamus damn
      1. 0
        24 February 2014 10: 00
        era of decay, battlefield, war of 2013?
  13. 0
    24 February 2014 09: 13
    Sevastopol, Kerch, Odessa are Hero cities, does it really seem to anyone that they will surrender to some kind of scumbags just like that - without a fight. So far, no such precedent has been observed.
  14. 0
    24 February 2014 09: 20
    All the same, I believe that Russian people live in the East of Ukraine and the Crimea, and not sacrificial sheep, ready to put their throats under the Bandera knife. In this case, the Americans are already conducting military operations against Russia with the help of Bandera's "infantry" which they have carefully raised for more than twenty years in Western Ukraine. If now Russia allows the transfer of ALL of Ukraine under the rule of Banderlog, then an "effective cleanup" of the Russian population of the eastern regions will be carried out in these conditions, part of the population will go to Russia. The rest of the Banderlog will be put into operation and will be trained against Russia. NATO with its bases and the fleet, which will take the place of the Black Sea, located in Ukraine, will keep a pistol at the temple of the Kremlin. The missile defense system becomes 100% effective. All. The curtain. Second option. The South-East and Crimea form autonomous formations. First, they continue to receive orders from Russia, the industry is working, and the money now in full goes to the regional treasury, Crimea receives a colossal amount for the lease of the Black Sea Fleet base. The money does not go into the pockets of thieving officials in Kiev, by the way, in any case, the number of thirsty people there will only increase, but for the development of the regions. Compared to the rest of Ukraine, where receiving money from the IMF, which will still be plundered, will lead to general poverty. Ukrainians look at the conditions under which they are provided. We went through this, personally, I did not receive a salary for 3-4 months, I will never forget this "help", and my despair when my wife cries and does not know what to buy just bread for. Therefore, now the Banderlog with the help of the West will do EVERYTHING to seize the whole of Ukraine, from promises to terror and murders. And we also have tens of thousands of servicemen in Russia with combat experience in the field and in reserve, who passed through Chechnya, Afghanistan, and defended South Ossetia. And S. Shoigu restored the army. Earlier, during the Soviet era, every military town hung the slogan "NATO is a threat to the WORLD." Remember THIS.
  15. +2
    24 February 2014 09: 31
    The author is a big Plus, for honesty, simplicity and clarity of thought, for the directness and valid Civic Position of Man!
  16. +2
    24 February 2014 10: 39
    I want to reassure some and disappoint others (depending on their personal attitude to the events in Ukraine): sleep well, guys, there will be no civil war. In order for a civil war to start, the main and indispensable condition is the presence of at least two warring parties. No matter how we treat the "banderlog", we must state with regret that now only they are an organized force. Anything similar to organized resistance is not observed. The ruling party has collapsed, the deputies in the Rada are stamping everything that the Westerners palm off on them. Some of the heads of the regions have already fled, the rest are packing their bags. The brave leader of Kharkov, who a week ago promised to shove the old constitution into the anus of the Maydauns, bravely set off on the run after his boss. It seems like they had a meeting in the same Kharkov. What are the results? We sat down for a while and dispersed. Was the appeal to the people for the holy war adopted? No! And what about the people? The people are silent, as they were silent in 1991. So no special cataclysms should be expected. Now, when they come to the final European integration, with all its charms, then yes. But not now.
  17. ed65b
    +3
    24 February 2014 11: 01
    The author went overboard. Who is he going to fight in Ukraine? What status? Volunteer? that believe yours is enough. And if Russia really gets in, so we’re sorry the army is not weak and tested, and there’s a kid with brains clogged with foolishness from 15 years. They can only engage in partisanism, and let the Ukrainians themselves prevent this. There are various special forces in Russia who will be engaged in the destruction of field commanders in targeted operations. probably we have ukrainian speaking specialists. In general, it is not the business of the people to climb into this meat grinder militarily. From us, moral support is more needed. we must put pressure on our government with all our might so that we would not leave the Russians in Ukraine to be eaten by wolves. Exert constant pressure. Now it will be more effective than Cyril with a gun in the trench under a dig.
  18. +1
    24 February 2014 12: 13
    Quote: Denis
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Speaking of Yulka, Yarosh is against her engaging in politics. As I understand it, they met and did not agree. In general, Yulka flies, like plywood at the Storage.

    I think Yulka will spoil all the maidan’s blood yet, laughing

    Soon we will see traditional Ukrainian sparing, all against everyone.
    The money is over, Bandera only know how to fight, the West does not understand which government will not give money.
    Putin’s position voiced by Lukin (no one to negotiate with!) - very soon will be picked up by the West. Everything is as in the example with Syria. The position of Russia will strengthen. Moreover, only we, Russia, are ready to give money. The performance is in full swing. It is not necessary to send troops, but to politically and financially support the South East and guarantee Bandera that Russia will not be aloof if they go there.
  19. +1
    24 February 2014 12: 24
    I do not understand my colleagues, Russian nationalists, who rejoice in the victories of the rebels in Kiev,

    Yes, everything is simple, and both of them are fed from one hand, the Fashkintong regional committee.
  20. 0
    24 February 2014 15: 38
    Putin and the State Duma are mysteriously silent, as if to say that the business of Ukraine is its internal affair and Russia does not intend to get into conflict for the interests of others. But if you think about it, when pro-Western politicians come to power, Russia will lose Sevastopol unambiguously with the rest Putin thinks to agree on gas and the remaining 12 billion loan.
    For some reason, no one thinks that the banderlogs will not calm down, there will be ethnic cleansing and reformatting of the Russian-speaking population, groups of militants will start attacking Georgia from Ukraine, including and Islamic.
    The NATO base will be deployed accurately and Belarus will remain semi-surrounded and it will be next, banderlogs and balts with Western money will help the brothers Belarusians.
  21. 0
    24 February 2014 18: 41
    Already at war? And where is the war? And is there a legal basis to lead Russian troops there?
    1. +1
      24 February 2014 18: 52
      laughing But do not tell me which wars began on legal grounds?
      For war, you need an excuse (you can always find it, or you can create one) and confidence in military superiority. hi
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    24 February 2014 20: 39
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    Already at war? And where is the war? And is there a legal basis to lead Russian troops there?



    As soon as the Bandera people enter the Crimea and clashes with the use of weapons begin, for at least one Banderlog, but will shoot (and to put it mildly) in the direction of Russian military facilities, then this will be the legal basis to respond to the Ukrainian attack on Russia.
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      24 February 2014 22: 28
      Cyril Benedictine
      Blockade Blockade2 Blockade3 Billionaire2 Billionaire3 Short story based on the series "Billionaire" Eldorado
      Professional historian and writer, science fiction writer, political scientist. Author of dark novels about our time and the future ("War for Asgard", "Testament of the Night" and others). Was born in Minsk. Until the age of seven he lived among the Belarusian fields, then he moved to Moscow. One of the main meetings of his life took place in the fifth grade, when he attended history lessons with a specialist from the Academy of Pedagogical Sciences. Cyril fell forever in love with long-dead people and civilizations that have disappeared forever. After school, without hesitation, he entered the history faculty of Moscow State University, where he studied the pre-Columbian civilizations of Latin America. But he did not become an archaeologist, having graduated from the university with a degree in Modern and Contemporary History of Europe and America. This does not prevent him from remembering the names of the bloody tyrants of antiquity to this day.
      After Moscow State University, he left - a few hours before the 1993 putsch - to the College of Europe in Belgium, where he studied ethnic conflicts and the activities of peacekeepers. He worked in the OSCE, in South Korea. He defended his Ph.D. thesis on the Balkan crisis. Knowledge of modern politics allows him to paint a reliable and terrible future in his books, and his love of history allows him to place characters in the present past. He published his first story, which was dedicated to the city of the dead, in 1990. Then two books of the writer were published - "The Testament of the Night" and "The War for" Asgard ", which were awarded almost all prizes in the field of Russian science fiction. Gloomy prophecies about fascist revenge and the story of an immortal monster had tremendous success. In the project" Ethnogenesis "acts as the author series "Blockade".
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    25 February 2014 00: 57
    Do not engage in anti-Ukrainian hysteria. Ukrainians themselves know how to equip their country. Therefore, all the howls about the fact that some especially patriotic citizens from the Russian Federation are ready to go to Ukraine to tell how Ukrainians should live and return them "to the true path" cause only bewilderment and doubt about the adequacy of their intentions and themselves.
    Yanukovych associates overthrown. And it is a fact! And to the great joy of the whole Ukrainian people - both in the west and in the east.
    The best and most correct thing that the Russian leadership needs to do is to build relations with the new Ukrainian authorities, and not to intimidate, not to recall ambassadors and not to block trade relations. Otherwise, Russia risks losing Ukraine permanently.

    The methods of overthrowing the president are dubious and I do not like myself. But this has already happened. It happened because he "got" the country and the people, although, again, the methods are not to my liking. But if someone in the Russian Federation comes up with the thought of sending troops to Ukraine "to establish constitutional order" in a foreign country, he risks running into the catastrophic consequences of this step. It will be a geopolitical catastrophe, including for Russia.