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"Compass" for the soldier of the XXI century

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"Compass" for the soldier of the XXI centuryOne of the most prominent expositions of the state security exhibition Interpolitex-2013 demonstrated the products of OJSC Moscow Design Bureau Compass (MKB Compass). Vitaly Navodnichy, an adviser to the general director of the company, spoke about some of the samples of Rosinformbyuro presented. At the exhibition, ICD presented gadgets for a soldier of the 21st century, a unified information navigation and communication system on the battlefield, and other products.


- Vitaly Markovich, what are the main activities of OJSC “MKB“ Kompas ”?

- Among the priority areas of our enterprise, it should be noted such as the development of means and systems of navigation equipment for the Air Force and civil aviationas well as equipment for space rocket technology and high-precision control weapons. As a promising development I want to mention search and rescue systems, satellite systems for landing aircraft on ships, noise-tolerant satellite receiver for promising aircraft, etc.

Among the initiative developments of the Compass ICB, wearable individual means of orientation and control on the battlefield, an information management system for fire control with an unmanned aerial vehicle, and a self-organizing backbone communications network deserve attention. To create the development of this and other products in the composition of the ICD there are three specialized centers - the development of marine technology, inter-sectoral information and analytical center and special programs.

- What samples of products would you note in the company's exposition?

- As a logical continuation and expansion of the enterprise’s activity, the navigation and communications complex presented here is presented as an element of tactical control from the brigade and below. It includes the radio station "Bussol" different (wearable and transportable) options. This is a new generation radio station, which was created with the direct participation of representatives of basic science.

"Busol" is designed to create self-organizing, self-healing, jamming and intelligence-resistant tactical level communication networks. The core network in the automatic mode allows you to create a unified telecommunications space that provides communication with stationary and mobile objects, including vehicles and unmanned vehicles, as well as personnel. At the same time, up to 400 node radio stations can be operated in the core network, each of which provides an 10 and 15 connection for subscribers of the TDMA access network and Mesh network. One radio station has 3 high-frequency interfaces that enable communication in the 108-520, 30-108 and 850-960 / 2400 MHz operating frequency bands. The mass of radio stations does not exceed 4,2 kg.

At the same time, each participant in this radio network is also a repeater. If the connection is broken, a new route is automatically searched to restore it. In essence, the principle of multiple reservation is implemented, in which the transfer of a packet of information is carried out along several routes with automatic selection of the optimal one. Moreover, the whole system is built in such a way that it is automatically configured during maneuvers or any actions.

- Here are presented and various types of tablets. What are they?

- In our other products that deserve attention, I would point out the commanding personal tablet (KPP, KPPZ) and wearable receiver-indicator (NPI). Both types of tablets are designed to solve communication, information and computational problems using the user's coordinates, speed and direction of movement, GLONASS and GPS time signals. Tablets can work autonomously and as part of control networks.

Portable multipurpose wearable NPI in its functionality is similar to tablets, but it is intended for use by an individual fighter and squad leader. NPI has built-in crypto protection, the ability to connect an external voice headset, micro memory cards and USB connector, etc.

These products ensure that each other maintains communication without the use of a radio station at a distance of up to 1100 (300-500) m in open space (rough terrain). When using a radio station, the range can reach 11 km.

Here is also a navigation map tablet (such as 737), which is commercially available. The tablet is designed for accurate navigation of aircraft anywhere in near-earth space at any time of the year and day under any meteorological conditions. It can be used by pilots and navigators of aircraft.

The navigation and communications complex, which is a fully proactive development, is fully prepared and is currently undergoing testing. Previously, our complex was demonstrated at an exhibition in Nizhny Tagil, where relevant structures paid attention to it. Here we have presented a more advanced sample.

- Are the products represented in the “Warrior” program?

- We do not participate in this program. However, the parameters of our products are not worse (data transmission), and in some ways better than those that will be used in the “Warrior”.

- What is the underwater autonomous robotic device “Glider-T” presented in the exposition of the MKB “Compass”?

- “Glider-T” is designed to perform various research tasks at any time of the day and year in waters without ice cover under any meteorological conditions. The apparatus with various equipment can move through the program and carry out using modern materials and technologies.

The hull of the underwater robot is made of ultrastrong and relatively light material, resistant to the effects of sea water and oil. The original drive based on the electric motor and mechanical actuators has no external mechanical moving parts, which ensures high secrecy from being detected by means of radio and sonar. The device can move in the water and change the direction of movement by commands, the transfer of which can be carried out in several ways. "Glider-T" can be used independently, or as part of a group of similar devices that solve the same or different tasks depending on the goals.

The device is capable at a working depth of up to 100 m and moving at a speed of up to 0,25 m / s with a payload of up to 3 l. With the dimensions of 1,5х1,5х0,3 m and the diameter of the case 200 mm, the autonomy of the device reaches 180 days. The movement of the device along the route is carried out using an inertial control system, for which it automatically pops up and specifies its location.

In conclusion, Advisor to the General Director of OJSC “MKB“ Kompas ”Floodnichy noted that for more than 60 years the company has been one of the leading developers and manufacturers of onboard navigation equipment for the Air Force and Space Forces. Today Compass ICB is the leading enterprise for the development, production and service of noise-free on-board receiver-indicators and GLONASS / GPS antenna systems (in the future GALILEO) for high-precision positioning, trajectory measurements, monitoring and solving navigation problems using satellite and ground-based radio navigation systems.
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  1. Airman
    Airman 16 December 2013 12: 03 New
    +6
    All this is good, but if you disable about half of the GLONASS satellites or suppress them, the system will stop working. For 2 satellites, positioning will not happen, so you need to think about other positioning systems.
    1. makarov
      makarov 16 December 2013 12: 16 New
      +3
      I fully support your opinion. I show interest in the component manufacturer - is it really China again?
      1. rolik2
        rolik2 16 December 2013 14: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: makarov
        is China again?


        The Chinese lunar rover flew to the moon on Chinese components so what are they worse than domestic?
        1. Berserker
          Berserker 16 December 2013 15: 05 New
          +2
          The fact that it is laced with domestic components, and iron, it is in China, iron! If you fold a plane out of paper according to the drawn plan, then it will fly! And if there is no drawing?
          1. rolik2
            rolik2 16 December 2013 16: 11 New
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            Quote: Berserker
            The fact that it is laced with domestic components,

            Maybe tell me what they licked there?
            When was the last lunar rover launched? Under the USSR, and what could they lick from it?
            Wheels, housing, microcircuits ??
            1. Apologet.Ru
              Apologet.Ru 16 December 2013 20: 56 New
              +3
              hi
              But we have the most combat songs, the most -
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov 16 December 2013 23: 01 New
                +2
                Quote: Apologet.Ru
                But we have the most combat songs, the most -

                This is you LUKE! Laughing to tears, thanks !!!
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              -2
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        2. alone
          alone 16 December 2013 22: 16 New
          -1
          Quote: rolik2
          The Chinese lunar rover flew to the moon on Chinese components so what are they worse than domestic?


          Nothing. Just because they are Chinese. It’s already alarming for many. But in vain. The Chinese can do quite decent things. It depends on which market.
        3. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 16 December 2013 22: 56 New
          +1
          Quote: rolik2
          The Chinese lunar rover flew to the moon on Chinese components so what are they worse than domestic?

          So it’s not about carrots, who knows what bookmarks are in Chinese chips? Would you sell good weapons to your future enemy?
    2. clidon
      clidon 16 December 2013 12: 55 New
      +4
      And how to disable them (GLONASS satellites), tell me? Probably, when anti-satellite systems appear, that is, the war will go into space, then we will speculate about the protection of our orbital group, but for now it is enough to think over its reservation.
      At least the Americans are not going to abandon Navstar as a basic positioning system.

      As for "suppressing", in the first place it is not so simple, and in the second, it is theoretically possible to suppress everything. But in practice, no one throws away the radar and radio communication is flourishing.
      1. Sibiriya
        Sibiriya 16 December 2013 13: 16 New
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        At the moment, there are successfully run-in systems for destroying satellites both with us and with them. Well done guys quickly do two years have not passed))))
        1. clidon
          clidon 16 December 2013 13: 55 New
          +1
          And what kind of destruction systems are these? Yes, run-in.
          1. makarov
            makarov 16 December 2013 14: 17 New
            +1
            The "theme" against satellites is a shot from a combat satellite in a given orbit of a charge of several thousand steel balls, everything that is in a given orbit is instantly destroyed. this is just one of the simplest weapons methods. there are also more complex ones.
            1. clidon
              clidon 16 December 2013 15: 12 New
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              To do this, you probably need to build a satellite equipped with "several thousand steel balls." Which, by the way, smells strongly of those mythical tons of nails that "clean the orbit". ) But in fact, everything is as you know easily, only in the movie "Gravity". And the orbits are not so small and you need to be able to direct the satellite and you can adjust the orbits of other vehicles so that they do not fall under a shot.
              It is necessary to conduct tests in the end. But so far neither we nor Americans are anything
              1. Ezhaak
                Ezhaak 16 December 2013 17: 43 New
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                Quote: clidon
                e and the satellite you need to be able to direct and correct the orbits of other devices, so that they do not fall under the shot.

                So after all, if each ball is provided with a self-destruction system, then after a full revolution in orbit, they can all turn into dust and not disturb anyone else. Or equip each ball with its own propulsion system to leave orbit and to fall, they knocked on the heads of our opponents. Guys, watch less Hollywood fantastic crafts.
              2. makarov
                makarov 16 December 2013 18: 29 New
                -1
                Well, do you really have to chew everything and put it in your mouth ??? Are you ready to take everything on faith, and you too lazy to just work to just quench your own curiosity? After all, how old are you ?? As for the real types of anti-satellite weapons, you are carrying such a stupid garbage, which is characteristic of beardless and illiterate youths ...
                1. clidon
                  clidon 18 December 2013 00: 30 New
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                  Sorry, I didn’t even understand that this stream of thought is in my direction. ) But, what is more specific besides delirium with balls in orbit your brain can offer me?
          2. Saburov
            Saburov 16 December 2013 20: 43 New
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            In 1988, six containers were put into orbit with several thousand needles 5-6 cm long, this was a rational response from the USSR, in case of war, the container is blown up by radio command and these little ones fly in low and high orbits around the earth at a speed of 5 km per second, as a result, neither the USA nor we have satellites, everyone is on an equal footing, but we had 7-8 launch complexes ready to launch on-duty communication satellites ready.
            1. clidon
              clidon 16 December 2013 21: 05 New
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              This is an ordinary bike. In it, faces change in the main role, these are nails, then needles (why the heck is the needle is not clear)), then shot (steel balls) ...
              The conclusion is that someone launched this myth, and they all repeat in different ways.

              I can say even more Americans at the time (1961) were already placing needles into orbit. Only not thousands (like yours) and not hundreds of thousands, but 480 million - copper needles almost 2 centimeters long and 0,18 microns thick each. So the satellite constellation has not yet noticed this problem in the entire history of its existence. Of course, the number of these copper needles has greatly decreased (by orders of magnitude) since then, but even now these needles are befitting for the orbit into which they were thrown quite high (more than 3 km). If you think that the needle is so too light, then you are also mistaken, even such a copper hair flying at a speed of more than one kilometer can do business. But does not create. Guess why?
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              2. Saburov
                Saburov 16 December 2013 21: 38 New
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                This is just not a bike, as a result of the Sov.sec there is very little information on this subject, but the fact of launching into orbit was recorded, the last launch with the container was in March 1989, and the space communications station in Dubna took control of them and carried out some radio command tests, so that they are still there, as well as missiles (judging by the orbital basis of 6 units) which are not clear why and why, Pasha Grachev ordered to put into orbit in 93m, you can fake, such information can be found out , at least with access OP.
                1. clidon
                  clidon 16 December 2013 21: 41 New
                  0
                  I already wrote above, this is a bike, even just from a physical point of view. try a bucket of tennis balls to litter Lake Baikal. Do not take it seriously.
                  1. Saburov
                    Saburov 17 December 2013 02: 18 New
                    +1
                    Each satellite has its own orbit, (the example with Baikal is unsuccessful) and these orbits are known to both us and the Americans, whether they are communication satellites, broadcasts, research apparatuses, the average orbits are geostationary, medium orbit and low orbit, based on data from for the most immediate goals (satellites), the calculation is done on the basis of an elliptical orbit at different eccentricity values, so a calculation appears on the probability of destruction or damage to the satellite in the region from 0.72 to 0.91 do you really think that the entire scientific potential of the USSR (academics, engineers, designers) did not think up these things, a person is not so sure of anything as that he knows the least. I already wrote above that in order to operate this kind of information, at least OP access is needed.
                    1. clidon
                      clidon 17 December 2013 08: 35 New
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                      Sure! Each satellite (or constellation) has an orbit, an inclination, its own speed. Therefore, with your needles with balls, you will shoot accurately at each satellite, and not just keep containers (!) In orbits, which, by definition, is nonsense.
                      As it was in the days of the USSR, until Andropov suspended the "war in space" ...
                      To date, there are no such systems in the asset (at least with some kind of tolerance), or is there really something to fantasize - there are one or two disguised as ordinary (or dead) satellites, similar to the target orbits. But there is no total threat, and everyone understands this very well.
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                      2. Saburov
                        Saburov 17 December 2013 19: 30 New
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                        The USSR suspended the war in space for two reasons, it is quite expensive and because the United States made huge concessions, including the withdrawal of a number of nuclear weapons from Europe. The USSR did to the fullest Americans in this area, everything that was in the USA in the field of science fiction, our steelmakers did in metal, starting from such systems as antisatellites, nuclear shrapnel (which for some reason you persistently do not want to believe in), because it’s a small thermonuclear charge in each container, accelerates them to crazy speeds in orbit, a number of systems for suppressing communication systems, satellites with pulse generators and much more.
                      3. clidon
                        clidon 17 December 2013 23: 32 New
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                        The USSR suspended the war in space for one reason - in defiance of the American SDI. They say we are for the peaceful development of outer space, and they are "kindling."
                        As for the secret fantastic and physically delusional technologies never seen before (such as thermonuclear balls-rollers), it's better not to me. It's better to go to some kind of newspaper, a magazine like Miracles and Adventures.
                        But in general, I know the directions of the work of anti-satellite weapons both among us and the Americans, and they were generally understandable and pragmatic. They were developed and tested.
                2. grandfather
                  grandfather 17 December 2013 02: 31 New
                  +1
                  clidon RU so you figure out which orbits, which satellites fly, and think, and not say that something is impossible.
                  and about Baikal: you will fly on the lake with a breeze on the lake, and I will know your trajectory and ueben from the Tsar Cannon by you with a bucket of balls, question: will you fly to the shore?
                  1. clidon
                    clidon 17 December 2013 08: 40 New
                    0
                    I am not saying that it is impossible to shoot down a satellite in a high orbit, I am arguing that this is an extremely complicated, very expensive business and has been put aside for now. Even the Chinese, who conducted an experiment to intercept their weather satellite, did it in low orbit and used a full-fledged space launch for this. So far, only the Americans have managed to shoot down the satellite using the SM-3 "non-space" rocket, but at a low altitude of 250 km. It was about positioning systems that fly ... ask yourself where.

                    PS Baikal is generally unclear at what.
                    1. grandfather
                      grandfather 18 December 2013 00: 32 New
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                      Quote: clidon
                      PS Baikal is generally unclear at what.

                      read your post above
                    2. clidon
                      clidon 18 December 2013 00: 40 New
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                      I re-read it and still can not understand how the project of the returned first stage can relate to this topic.
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                4. Saburov
                  Saburov 17 December 2013 19: 35 New
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                  Do not try to explain to him such things as the probability of a hit and the calculated component when destroying an object, he clearly wrote that only the United States can hit a homing satellite with a rocket.
                  1. clidon
                    clidon 17 December 2013 23: 36 New
                    0
                    So calculate the probability of a needle falling into a satellite in orbit. Do not fantasize.
                    And yes, today it’s only a missile and a satellite (and not an orbital interceptor) that only Americans managed to use with the help of the SM-3. If you want to refute, I'm waiting for the link.
          3. grandfather
            grandfather 17 December 2013 02: 17 New
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            clidon RU and you vkurse for what Americans put that experiment and what? enlighten the ignorant, and if that weapon was, then what? for what?
            but certainly not for the destruction of satellites))))))
            1. clidon
              clidon 17 December 2013 08: 40 New
              0
              Read above.
            2. Saburov
              Saburov 17 December 2013 19: 51 New
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              For over-the-horizon radio communication, it was necessary to think of such a thing as launching needles into space in order to conduct a communication session in different states and without even thinking about the fact that the needles would gradually creep into orbits, in general the project, which was absolutely useless from the very beginning of the design.
              1. clidon
                clidon 18 December 2013 00: 17 New
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                In 1961, many had the right to make a mistake. However, even the fact that the project was unsuccessful also led to certain results. )
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    3. rolik2
      rolik2 16 December 2013 14: 38 New
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      Quote: Siberia
      run-in satellite destruction systems like us so they have.

      When was the last time they were run? probably with the union?
      1. clidon
        clidon 16 December 2013 15: 13 New
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        Yes, in the early 80s, after which they covered the project.
  2. Shoma-1970
    Shoma-1970 16 December 2013 13: 19 New
    +1
    fully support! and if, and if! everything can happen, no one and nothing is safe, but you need to build, release and update, there is an answer to everything.
  • w.ebdo.g
    w.ebdo.g 16 December 2013 13: 09 New
    +6
    very nice clip
    "Born in USSR"
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 16 December 2013 13: 28 New
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      Sucks, like the performer himself.
      All the while ordering into the microphone under the plywood yells.
      Songs from the series for cheers patriots. (IMHO).
      laughing
      1. Genry
        Genry 16 December 2013 13: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: wanderer_032
        Sucks, like the performer himself.
        All the while ordering into the microphone under the plywood yells.
        Songs from the series for cheers patriots. (IMHO).
        laughing

        It is necessary to remove the letter "t" in your name.
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 16 December 2013 17: 48 New
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        Quote: wanderer_032
        Sucks, like the performer himself.

        Threshing with tongue, not carrying bags of coal. Is there anything concrete to offer? Waiting, sir.
  • Shoma-1970
    Shoma-1970 16 December 2013 13: 14 New
    0
    still, if the world ends, it will not work either! can not develop anything?
    1. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 16 December 2013 13: 16 New
      +6
      new reusable stage "Baikal"
      Go Russia!
  • Genry
    Genry 16 December 2013 14: 06 New
    +4
    Quote: Povshnik
    but if you disable about half of the GLONASS satellites or crush them, the system will stop working.

    Why use a "global" system on the battlefield, if it is possible to use local (aviation, ground) referencing. If only the area of ​​spread of missiles and shells was covered.
  • Siberian
    Siberian 16 December 2013 16: 11 New
    +1
    Airman
    In fact, you are right. Yes, so cumbersomely equipped. It’s as if they were going to fight with one electronics (who has the coolest iPhone). How to drown out all the electronics, and then what to do. If this is equipped with this system, then one specialist for the whole company, and then so that there is an additional unit. Or to supply everyone, but so that individual rickshaws carry ammunition and dry rations.
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 16 December 2013 16: 22 New
      0
      So no one says that they will be issued to everyone. The maximum (or minimum, in the sense of not lower) to the platoon commander, and more is not needed there.

      nodal radio stations, each of which provides connection to 10 and 15 network subscribers


      Here is one base (nodal) station for a platoon + tablet, well, you can still on the tablet to the squad leaders.
  • Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 17 December 2013 02: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Povshnik
    All this is good, but if you disable about half of the GLONASS satellites or suppress them, the system will stop working. For 2 satellites, positioning will not happen, so you need to think about other positioning systems.


    For example, about which ??

    So for reference, I inform you that when the satellites begin to shoot down, no one will look at the fact that some kind of navigation has stopped working ... not before it becomes, and that's all.
  • Gato
    Gato 16 December 2013 12: 26 New
    +1
    The device is capable of operating at a depth of up to 100 m and can move at a speed of up to 0,25 m / s with a payload of up to 3 liters.

    I do not really imagine the combat value of the device at a speed of 0,25 m / s. But 3 liters is impressive. Or didn’t I understand something?
    1. Airman
      Airman 16 December 2013 12: 38 New
      +1
      [quote = Gato] [quote] The device is capable of working depths of up to 100 m and can move at speeds up to 0,25 m / s with a payload of up to 3 liters. [/ quote]
      I do not really imagine the combat value of the device at a speed of 0,25 m / s. But 3 liters is impressive. Or didn’t I understand something? [/ Quote]
      Me too, especially this pearl. The original drive based on an electric motor and mechanical actuating elements does not have external mechanical moving parts, which ensures high stealth from detection by means of radio and sonar. The device can move in water and change the direction of movement according to commands, [/ quote]
      And due to what then does he change direction?
      1. shpuntik
        shpuntik 16 December 2013 15: 06 New
        +1
        PUSHNIK (2) SU Today, 12:38 ↑
        And due to what then does he change direction?

        Due to the rudders, the tail probably rotates as a whole, there is little effort. Although, with a mismatch of the right and left elevators, the same should be a U-turn.
        Further: surfaced - issued a signal about the accumulated information - decided on a place - received a signal - dived in the right direction. Here, perhaps, the principle of movement "dive-ascent" is used, due to the change in buoyancy. The device goes like a sinusoid, up and down, from 10 to 100 meters.
        Gato SU Today, 12:26
        I do not really imagine the combat value of the device at a speed of 0,25 m / s. But 3 liters is impressive. Or didn’t I understand something?

        Not taken into account autonomy for six months. 0,20 * 60 * 60 * 24 * 180 = 3110400 meters = 3000 km.
        Task: search for submarines, min. You do not need to feed. Similar in parameters to the American Remus 100, only without a screw.

        http://lenta.ru/news/2012/02/24/remus100s/
        http://mport.ua/war/1516443-Morskie-kotiki--sdelano-iz-zheleza
      2. Alexxeg73
        Alexxeg73 16 December 2013 15: 12 New
        0
        Well, actually the wave electric motor was invented a long time ago. There are also wave propulsors.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 16 December 2013 16: 47 New
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          Alexxeg73 SU Today, 15:12 PM ↑
          Well, actually the wave electric motor was invented a long time ago.

          Something new. A tidal power station exists, and what is this 5th element ?? what
          There are also wave propulsors.

          And, from this place in more detail ... yes
      3. novobranets
        novobranets 16 December 2013 20: 25 New
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        Quote: Povshnik
        And due to what then does he change direction?

        There may be a water cannon with a rotary nozzle. There are no moving parts outside, but straightening vanes must be noisy.
        1. shpuntik
          shpuntik 17 December 2013 14: 15 New
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          novobranets SU Yesterday, 20:25 ↑
          There may be a water cannon with a rotary nozzle. Outside there are no moving parts.

          May be. But the resource without recharging is 180 days, and the noiselessness declared by the manufacturer speaks of a cylinder of compressed air. In my convex sea look.
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          2. shpuntik
            shpuntik 18 December 2013 01: 33 New
            +1
            shpuntik RU Yesterday, 14:15 ↑
            novobranets SU Yesterday, 20:25 ↑
            There may be a water cannon with a rotary nozzle. Outside there are no moving parts.
            May be. But the resource without recharging is 180 days, and the noiselessness declared by the manufacturer,

            Here it is: the slamy operating time of Soviet scientists
            Glider Ru 27 "Scarlet knight" (Slocum type), developed in the laboratory of Rutgers University located in New Jersey, can be cited as a typical example of such an apparatus. In 2009, this glider autonomously crossed the Atlantic Ocean, covering about 7500 kilometers in 201 days, after which it was on the surface for another 20 days until the moment of meeting with the support vessel [40]. A schematic of the Ru 27 glider is shown in Fig. 44.

            Glider Ru 27 is a torpedo-shaped anti-aircraft gun with wings and tail, in which there is equipment for satellite communications. The calibrated part of the NPA has a diameter of 8,5 inches (216 mm), the total length of the glider is about 2360 mm. Its weight is 60,6 kg, while the batteries take up almost 40% of the weight of the planner (23,8 kilograms). The total volume of the glider is 59,1 liters. Thus, its total averaged density is approximately 1025 kg / m3, which almost coincides with the value of the density of water in the Atlantic Ocean. The maximum depth of the glider is 200 meters. To monitor the current value of the depth of the NPA has a hydrostatic pressure sensor.

            http://www.rulit.net/books/sistemy-borby-s-neobitaemymi-apparatami-asimmetrichny

            j-otvet-na-ugrozy-xxi-veka-read-316860-19.html
  • Sobol
    Sobol 16 December 2013 12: 32 New
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    Quote: Povshnik
    All this is good, but if you disable about half of the GLONASS satellites or suppress them, the system will stop working. For 2 satellites, positioning will not happen, so you need to think about other positioning systems.

    If GPS satellites are threatened, then the yanker system will stop working the same way.
    1. clidon
      clidon 16 December 2013 12: 59 New
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      There is simply nothing to "bang" them yet.
      1. Alexxeg73
        Alexxeg73 16 December 2013 15: 30 New
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        Oh Gods! In the USSR, back in the distant 60s, fighter satellites were launched and destroyed target satellites. Look for information on the Polet-1 spacecraft. And no one knows how many suicide satellites Kosmos-252 were in orbit. And no one knows (at least ordinary people) how much and what is flying in orbit now.
        1. clidon
          clidon 16 December 2013 15: 44 New
          +1
          The gods have nothing to do with it. It’s just pretty well known what and what flies and most importantly what size, mass and in which orbits (which is most important). In addition, for example, from the United States (and we are worried about our system, aren’t we?) There were no such tests.
          Therefore, if we discard conspiracy theological fiction, now the GLONASS satellite constellation is not in danger. And if such a system is tested and appears, the enemy will need a half or two dozen launches of non-acidic class carriers with satellites on board in order to at least half weaken the group.
          1. Walking
            Walking 16 December 2013 19: 57 New
            0
            Everything is much simpler as far back as the 90s, anti-satellite missiles launched from fighter jets worked out.
            1. clidon
              clidon 16 December 2013 20: 37 New
              0
              The missiles were never put into service, and besides they cannot threaten navigation satellites. Flight range is not enough.
  • Chever
    Chever 16 December 2013 12: 37 New
    -1
    So all this is healthy. And as always, they will break the price. Bickering will begin because of this and the introduction will stall for a very long time, IMHO ... No.
    1. Shoma-1970
      Shoma-1970 16 December 2013 13: 27 New
      +2
      I am amazed! it seems there is nothing that could suit us, that would not produce, whatever discoveries would make, that would not release, what needs to be done what would suit us, those who create the same people like us, we are no better . Sorry if anyone is hurt!
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 16 December 2013 20: 29 New
        0
        Normal criticism spurs and stimulates creativity. I emphasize normal, but not sweeping okhali.
  • Alex_Popovson
    Alex_Popovson 16 December 2013 13: 03 New
    +7
    All this is super-duper, all this is just wonderful! But, in addition to this, one would also have to learn to use the usual compass to use orientation on the ground. And then electronics, such electronics: it will freeze or fry, it will drown, and remember your name. IMHO
    1. boom_bah
      boom_bah 16 December 2013 15: 26 New
      +1
      and who said that they don’t learn to use a conventional compass?
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 16 December 2013 18: 05 New
        0
        And no one says that they do not teach. Only now it would be simpler for everyone, a button to press and go along the route!
    2. Simon
      Simon 16 December 2013 17: 57 New
      0
      With the compass, you can get lost the same way, especially in mountains with abnormal zones or the area where iron ore lies. tongue
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 16 December 2013 18: 02 New
        0
        You were probably not born in the mountains; you went out to Karelia to go maximum. And in the mountains it’s much easier to determine the side of the world, hell is mountains, hell of foothills. And on the plain, say the middle zone of Russia, it is quite possible to understand. Life lessons and nature studies to help you. fellow
      2. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 16 December 2013 18: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Simon
        You can get lost with the compass

        Curious boys can easily navigate the trees. Any competent Russian warrior No problem navigate. But you can’t even decide on the clock. Because you simply do not have them! A watch on a mobile is just a time counter. What will you all do without mobile? There is no connection, no GPS, mom and wife do not call, do not ask. Horror!!!
  • Alexey M
    Alexey M 16 December 2013 13: 12 New
    0
    All this is certainly good. And when will appear in the army and how much?
  • wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 16 December 2013 13: 24 New
    +1
    Modern communication and navigation systems are needed, only they must be so reliable that the troops can carry out their tasks, using them in any situation.
    So that it was "reinforced concrete" media that you can rely on.
  • saag
    saag 16 December 2013 13: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Gato
    . But 3 liters is impressive. Or didn’t I understand something?

    diving supply :-)
  • individual
    individual 16 December 2013 13: 32 New
    0
    I recall the leadership of operations during 888, when the generals controlled the movement of troops with flags, and NATO's vaunted electronic intelligence was unable to intercept the action, like a wave of a flag.
    But everything has its time.
    The generals drew conclusions and the troops received applications for new secure types of communications.
    1. boom_bah
      boom_bah 16 December 2013 15: 29 New
      +1
      what are the flags ??? do not smoke this rubbish anymore, there were ordinary mobile phones.
      1. max702
        max702 16 December 2013 23: 26 New
        0
        All right, simple mobile phones, the connection didn’t work because of the inability to work, and some were simply jammed, and the rodents listened to the mobile phone negotiations perfectly and found the exact coordinates of the subscribers, only the slanting and cowardice of the Georgians saved our army from big victims .. Alas, the connection to our army’s misfortune has always changed since the days of the Second World War, somewhere in the pretentious videos at warehouses, exhibitions, there is everything .. there’s nothing in the parts .. Only that some experts bought for their hard-earned money (I want to live) or trophies ..
  • Neighbor
    Neighbor 16 December 2013 14: 44 New
    0
    Hope for GLONASS ... JP do not really trust. It is necessary not only with them, but also without them to be able to work.
  • Plato
    Plato 16 December 2013 14: 45 New
    +2
    The designers of the above tablets have been running with them for more than twenty years. And everyone can’t guess that the soldier goes into battle and not on a picnic. A soldier, even a spotter, needs to carry, in addition to this tablet, also a weapon with ammunition. The tablet is worn on the chest. The tablet’s screen is lit and the spotter’s face will be lit. Unmask. And is it convenient to move around the battlefield, falling, rolling, crawling with such a thing on his chest? Have they tried to do this? Have you actually asked the soldiers who used this device? For so many years, they could have thought such inconvenient evidence. The corrector is almost in the first line, and therefore you need to think through all the details. For example, compose a tablet in a backpack. He took it off, put it behind a tree or at the bottom of the trench, opened the wall, and a little from the side, already without being lit up, do your work.
  • jt_elven
    jt_elven 16 December 2013 15: 07 New
    0
    and who knows how many of these satellites "NAGLAZ" ???
    and I personally tested the Compass products at the Alabino training ground, on real soldiers. We played the "platoon in defense" everything turned out very sour, we won't have an automated control system until there are no communication channels (((
    1. mountain
      mountain 16 December 2013 15: 30 New
      0
      and who knows how many of these satellites "NAGLAZ" ???
      A total of 21 seats, each satellite landing on three satellites. Now there are 29 of them, and there should be 69. In how.
    2. boom_bah
      boom_bah 16 December 2013 15: 31 New
      0
      finally an adequate assessment.
  • mountain
    mountain 16 December 2013 15: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: rolik2
    Quote: makarov
    is China again?


    The Chinese lunar rover flew to the moon on Chinese components so what are they worse than domestic?

    Yes, at least the fact that our lunar rover was on the moon in the 70s.
    1. rolik2
      rolik2 16 December 2013 16: 57 New
      0
      Quote: mountain
      Yes, at least the fact that our lunar rover was on the moon in the 70s.


      Well, now theirs is on the Moon, and where is your phobos soil ??
      1. Sobol
        Sobol 16 December 2013 18: 30 New
        0
        Quote: rolik2


        Well, now theirs is on the Moon, and where is your phobos soil ??


        Our at least try, and your only rub on the Maidan.
  • Keeper
    Keeper 16 December 2013 15: 17 New
    +2
    The best compass with a magnet ... Any electronic components for interference end electronics! For saboteurs and spyoff these toys - yes.
    Let them think better of armor protection so that it weighs less and is comfortable to wear ...
    1. Cat
      Cat 16 December 2013 15: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Keeper
      The best compass with a magnet ... Any electronic components for interference end electronics! For saboteurs and spyoff these toys - yes.
      Let them think better of armor protection so that it weighs less and is comfortable to wear ...

      Sorry, but your offer is too far from the current realities ..
      In the sense that the armor protection, for tanks or body armor, steel, titanium, kevlar, or whatever is, first of all, a complex energy and resource-intensive production, expensive machines and even entire production complexes, research laboratories and testing grounds, plus highly qualified staff for all of the above. And it's not a fact that it will work the first time, but an unsuccessful sample - only to a landfill or to a scrap metal collection point. In general, as the song says - "where is the money, Zin?"
      And it is quite another to buy a bucket of transistor processors (fortunately, the price is cheap), and re-soldering them this way and that until you get bored. Well, you will have to hire a programmer with a laptop, compose software for the device. That's all the overhead. But, in case of success - six, or even seven-figure price for a "box with light bulbs" will not surprise anyone - because it is not easy, it high tech.

      Such is the current economic reality ...
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 16 December 2013 16: 50 New
        +2
        citation-Among the ICB “Compass” initiative developments, wearable individual means of orientation and control on the battlefield, a fire control information support system with an unmanned aerial vehicle, and a self-organizing core communication network deserve attention. To create the development of this and other products, the IBC has three specialized centers - the development of marine technologies, an intersectoral information and analytical center, and special programs.

        I bring to your attention
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        1. APASUS
          APASUS 16 December 2013 20: 03 New
          +2
          Battalion commander's tablet from ICB "Compass"

          Our newly created Arctic units should be equipped with similar technology. I honestly don’t imagine the management of such a unit as a company in the snowy desert, but the conduct of a military operation is generally a mystery.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 16 December 2013 20: 36 New
            0
            At low temperatures, and the Arctic is just such a place, LCD monitors will not work. Need something else.
  • voliador
    voliador 16 December 2013 20: 34 New
    0
    Any electronic device produces electronic magn. radiation. And you can detect it, determine the coordinates. What will happen after is not hard to guess.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 16 December 2013 20: 42 New
      0
      Quote: voliador
      And you can detect it, determine the coordinates.

      By the way, yes. And as far as I know, they have not learned how to deal with this.
      1. clidon
        clidon 16 December 2013 21: 08 New
        0
        They are not going to fight this yet (except, of course, the fighters protecting information). For all this is pure theory as a child's tear. In practice, such a signal is so weak that trying to pick it up from any decent distance is a waste of time. That is why columns of tanks (armored personnel carriers, trucks) are not searched for by "electromagnetic radiation", but with the help of radar or thermal imagers.
  • kelevra
    kelevra 16 December 2013 23: 15 New
    0
    Russia has always criticized the West for excessive electronics in technology and on the soldier, and now for some reason we climb there. Finding a soldier, the enemy, will be much easier when there are many different gadgets, magnetic fields, noises and all that kind of thing! on the contrary, strive for little noise and stealth! Electronics sooner or later let you down, it will be a pity if the life of a soldier is also taken away!
    1. clidon
      clidon 17 December 2013 08: 43 New
      0
      Because everyone understands - electronics gives great advantages in battle. Very big. And look for it by electromagnetic fields ... I already wrote above - are many people looking for planes, helicopters, tanks, trucks, ships in their own electromagnetic fields?
  • PPL
    PPL 17 December 2013 00: 23 New
    0
    Dear author, after reading the article, I have to admit that at the exhibitions "Interpolitex-2013" and RAE-2013 in Nizhny Tagil you were able to visit only one manufacturer of army gadgets. Sorry, but I think it happened by accident? laughing
    Or did other manufacturers regret the money for PR?
    It is interesting to compare products from different manufacturers.
  • Makk
    Makk 17 December 2013 01: 44 New
    0
    I wonder where these gadgets will be produced and from whose components.
  • posarilkins
    posarilkins 17 December 2013 02: 10 New
    -1
    Quote: Makk
    I wonder where these gadgets will be produced and from whose components.


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  • Antokha
    Antokha 17 December 2013 10: 41 New
    0
    I wonder where these gadgets will be produced and from whose components.
    It is known where! Our narrow-eyed friends from their components and only the design of the encore and the product itself will be ours.