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Shtrafbat SS (Team "Dirlewanger")

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Officially there was no penalty unit in the SS structures. But all the SS men knew that the faulty member of the Black Order would atone for his fault on the Eastern Front in the Sonderkommando, commanded by Oscar Paul Dirlewanger.


This sonderkommando (special unit) originated in 1940 year. Poland defeated a year earlier, it was impossible to name Poland. In the cities there were underground groups, in the forests - partisans. It was then that Gottlob Berger, one of the deputies of Himmler, proposed the creation of a special unit dedicated exclusively to the fight against partisans. He also proposed a candidature for the new division being created - his old friend Oscar Paul Dirlewanger.

Shtrafbat SS (Team "Dirlewanger")
Oscar Paul Dirlewanger with the rank of SS Oberführer, 1944


Little biography

Oscar was born in 1895 in Swabia. Called to 1913 for annual military service, he returned home as a lieutenant in 1918, with three wounds, two Iron Crosses, experience in battalion command and firm conviction that his vocation is military service, or more precisely, war.

Dirlewanger joined the freykor, participated in the suppression of the left (received another wound), joined the NSDAP and the SA, and actively participated in the 1923 Beer putsch. Possessing an aggressive and unbalanced character, he was repeatedly detained by the police for participating in street riots.
It was at this time that he met and closely converged with Berger, who later became his patron.

In the 1934 year, Dirlewanger gets the 2 of the year in prison for corrupting a minor, expelled from the party and the SA. After leaving prison, he (on the advice of his friend Bergman) submits an application to the Condor Legion and departs for Spain to fight on Franco’s side.
At 1939, Dirlewanger returns to Germany with three new awards. Through the efforts of Bergman, he was rehabilitated, reinstated in the party and the SA, adopted in the SS with the rank of Hauptsturmführer.

That's who the deputy. Himmler offered the vacant post of commander of the special unit being created, who later became the name of his commander.

Poachers team

Dirlewanger accepted the offer of Bergman, nor did hesitate for a minute. He is again in the army! And then he asked for permission to recruit his unit by persons convicted of poaching. He argued his proposal with the following considerations: these people are good arrows, excellent trackers, they know how to navigate in the forest. Poachers more than anyone else are suitable for fighting "forest bandits."

The offer fell on the prepared ground. Just recently, Hitler received a letter from the wife of one partigenosse, who was convicted of poaching. The wife of the functionary asked to give her husband the opportunity to rehabilitate. During one of the meetings with Himmler in the spring of 1940, Hitler expressed his opinion that the faithful party members have nothing to do behind the concentration camp barbed wire, and if they want to atone for their service with the Reich, they should be given that opportunity.

In the summer of 1940, the first batch of 84 people arrived in Oranienburg from Sachsenhausen. At the place of recruitment, the zoderommand team received the name “Oranienburg Poaching Team”. So in the structure of the SS arose a unit formed from convicted members of the SS and NSDAP. In the future, recruitment for the unit of recruits in prisons and concentration camps will become the basic principle of recruiting the Dirlewanger team.

The emblem of the 36 th SS Grenadier Division "Dirlewanger"


First application

In the fall of 1940, the zonder team arrived in Poland. In the governorship-general, a unit was used to block Jewish settlements and ghettos in Dzikow, Lublin and Krakow. At the same time, the Sondercommand took part in anti-partisan operations, showing its high effectiveness. The team drew the attention of the SS head and the Lublin Globocnik district police. He increasingly began to use "poachers" to fight the partisans, sending to Berlin the most flattering reviews about the sonderkommando.

Service check

At the same time, letters were sent to Berger and Himmler about indescribable atrocities of the unit. To verify the incoming signals, SS Untersturmuführer Konrad Morgen arrived in Lublin, who revealed numerous cases of beating, extortion, robbery, rape, murder committed by members of the unit during the inspection. In his final report, Morgen considered it necessary to arrest Dirlewanger himself, and bring the members of his team back to the camp. Even from the point of view of a lawyer, the SS unit was not so much a military unit as a gangster formation.
And what do you think, what decision did the SS leadership take? Oscar Dirlewanger was given the title of Sturmbanführer, his team was reassigned directly to the headquarters of the Reichsführer SS and in January 1942 was sent to Belarus.

Achtung! Partizanen!

The guerrilla movement in Belarus to the 1942 year already created a serious threat to the Wehrmacht’s logistic support system. The number of individual units reached hundreds and even thousands of people. In service with the partisans there was not only small weapon, but also machine guns, field guns, anti-tank artillery, anti-aircraft mounts, mortars, howitzers and there were even Tanks! The units were commanded by professional military personnel who had undergone special training in the structures of the NKVD. The activities of the units were coordinated by the Central headquarters of the partisan movement, located in Moscow.

To liquidate the partisans, the Nazis conducted large-scale military operations involving Wehrmacht units reinforced with artillery, armored vehicles, aviation and tanks. These operations were a hell for German soldiers. Anti-partisan action was fundamentally different from fighting on the Eastern Front. The front line as such did not exist. Forests made use of aircraft senseless. Military intelligence was powerless. The lack of roads and wetlands did not allow the widespread use of military equipment. The battles were fierce, none of the parties took prisoners.

The executioner of Belarus

Zonderkommand "Dirlewanger" participated in most ongoing large-scale operations, always receiving the highest ratings from the leaders of the operation. Dirlewanger himself more than once went on the attack in the first chain of attackers and personally shot even those who were hesitant.

The unit not only participated in military operations, but also carried out tasks unique to it. Rangers of Dirlewanger tracked down partisans, determined their deployment and basing sites (this is where the poaching experience came in handy!), Attacked guerrilla columns marching and performed “specific” tasks — punitive operations.



"Specific Tasks"

Here are just some of the dry lines of the battalion's results report: “2 guerrilla and 176 suspects were shot,” “1 guerrilla and 287 accomplices were shot.” Each village, suspected of sympathizing with the partisans, was destroyed along with the inhabitants. Dirlewanger constantly petitioned for additional acquisition of his unit with flamethrowers.

The entire team of Dirlewanger was burned along with residents of more than 180 villages. Even if the village was not destroyed, livestock were confiscated, farm buildings and fodder were burned, a healthy population was hijacked to forced labor. The dead desert remained in the full sense behind the Sonderkommando.

Foreign volunteers

Achieving high results, the team (since November 1942 - Sonderbattalion) suffered high losses. In addition to poachers, they began sending convicts for smuggling, illegal possession of weapons and even just a criminal mob to the unit. But even this stuff was not enough, and in the spring of 1942, Dirlewanger achieved permission to form two companies in the battalion staffed by foreign volunteers. In the composition of the so-called. “Russian companies” were Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and representatives of other peoples of the USSR.

Note: On 30 on April 1943, 569 was listed as a Zonbattalian, of whom 367 was not German, in May the number of the battalion was increased to 612, and in June 1943 there were already 760 in the battalion.

2 May 1943 Mr. Dirlewanger was awarded the title of Obersturmmbanführer SS for his successes in the fight against partisans.

Eastern front

In November, 1943, the Red Army broke through the front and began to attack Vitebsk. The Germans plugged the hole with everything that was at hand. So the unit (already a regiment) turned out to be on the Eastern Front. "Poachers" were in an unusual situation for themselves. The experience acquired by them in the course of the anti-partisan struggle in the front-line conditions turned out to be absolutely useless. Part of the loss.

By January 1944, the regiment was cut by almost half. Not only criminals, but also “asocial elements”, in particular, those convicted of homosexuality and even political prisoners, come to replenish them. In May, the subdivision has an amazing “hodgepodge”: Latvians, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Russians, Spaniards, Muslims and Caucasians. But the Germans remain the backbone of the battalion.

And in the rear of the Hitlerites at this time, on the eve of liberation, partisans are becoming more active. The regiment was removed from the front and returned to Belarus, because neither the Wehrmacht nor the SS had a unit equal to the "poachers" in terms of effectiveness (and cruelty) in the conduct of the anti-partisan struggle. Therefore, when an uprising broke out in Warsaw 1 on August 1944 of the year, one of the first to suppress it was the regiment under the command of the standard SS Dirlewanger.




Warsaw Massacre

Upon arrival in Warsaw, the regiment consisted of 881 people. (During the anti-partisan operations "Spring Festival", "Rain" and others. The regiment suffered heavy losses). In the first days, the first batch of prisoners from the camps in Mattskau and Danzig arrived to hold the SS convicts. In an effort to rehabilitate themselves, the arriving recruits did not spare anyone; they fought with cruelty and ruthlessness. Where the situation seemed hopeless, the Dirlewanger team appeared, the fighters of which immediately went to the assault, regardless of the losses. If there was an opportunity, they went on the attack under the guise of a human shield of women and children. No prisoners were taken, civilians were shot — all, regardless of gender or age. Hospitals were burned along with inexperienced patients and staff.

Sonderkommanda promotion was the fastest, the actions - the most successful, but accompanied by the highest losses. Despite the fact that during the suppression of the uprising, 2500 people arrived at the regiment, by the time the rebels surrendered (2 in October 1944), DNLXX left the people. Regiment losses exceeded 648%. The commander of the sonder regiment himself, who again personally led his people to the attack, received another (300) wound, Knight’s Cross and the title of SS Oberführer. Replenished with prisoners from Sachsenhausen, Auschwitz, Dachau, Buchenwald and receiving the status of the SS brigade, the unit left for Slovakia to suppress the uprising that broke out there.

Report on what was done in the 1944 Warsaw Uprising


End of the Dirlewanger Team

In February, the 1945 year after the fighting in Slovakia and Hungary, the brigade arrived near the town of Guben (Brandenburg). It was necessary to fight already in Germany. By order from February 14, the 36-I SS Grenadier Division was formed on the basis of the brigade, and a day later the division commander, who once again personally led the counterattack, was wounded and left for the hospital. He never returned to the division.

Fritz Schmedes, who took part after the Red Army broke through 16 on April of the front in Silesia, considered it his main task to hand over the division to the Americans as soon as possible. Breaking away from the Soviet troops, he left the Elbe. By the time, only scraps remained from the division. For example, in the 73 regiment there were 36 people. The same picture was in the remaining divisions. However, the surrender to the Americans was not a salvation for the "poachers". Soldiers wearing a patch with a depiction of two crossed grenades on their sleeves were shot by Americans without ceremony.



The end of the ober executioner

Dirlewanger himself was detained in Altshausen by a French patrol, identified, arrested and put in a local prison. The guards in the prison were carried by the Poles. They knew who Dirlewanger was and were not going to forgive him anything: neither the executed Polish partisans, nor the dead participants of the Warsaw Uprising. For several nights, they led the prisoner into the corridor and, as they say, "took away the soul." On the last night, before they were to be replaced by a new guard, the Poles smashed the ober-executioner head with the butts. And although the act itself is not very beautiful, but unless someone condemns them?
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  1. Greyfox
    Greyfox 11 October 2013 09: 15 New
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    They knew who Dirlewanger was and did not intend to forgive him anything: neither the executed Polish partisans, nor the dead participants in the Warsaw uprising. Over the course of several nights, they led the prisoner out into the corridor and, as they say, “took the soul”. On the last night, before they were to be replaced by a new guard, the Poles smashed the head executioner with rifle butts. And although the act itself is not very beautiful, but who will condemn them?

    Blame? Yes, I applaud them mentally. Otherwise, by a court verdict in Germany, I would have received 10, served 5 and went to write memoirs in some warm Spain, living on a rather old veteran Bundes pension,
    1. Gennady1973
      Gennady1973 11 October 2013 10: 20 New
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      Exactly! In the Baltic states, the old SS men are happy about pleasures. A normal deed. What about ethics, what would you do as a man with a "man" who killed your relatives and friends?
      1. alone
        alone 12 October 2013 00: 07 New
        +5
        aah, the old executioner dirlewanger? and they did the right thing to smash his dumb Nazi head with rifle butts. He can still be said easily got off. He had to be pulled out of the skin alive for the work of this dog and his mongrel
      2. sasha127
        sasha127 12 October 2013 13: 51 New
        +3
        Yes, what kind of ethics is there, the Sabaque death of a saber.
    2. StolzSS
      StolzSS 12 October 2013 00: 32 New
      +4
      I am sure that in the place of those Poles the majority would have done the same ...
  2. svskor80
    svskor80 11 October 2013 09: 16 New
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    In battle, it is necessary to break the head of the enemy, and the prisoner to judge and punish according to the laws. The SS man is certainly not sorry for this, he got his, but the Poles showed their essence quite frankly.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 11 October 2013 09: 33 New
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      Quote: svskor80
      The SS man is certainly not sorry for this, he got his, but the Poles showed their essence quite frankly.

      I can't blame them. And in the photo of the face of frank M. razi.
      1. alone
        alone 12 October 2013 00: 08 New
        +2
        the word M.raz him like a balm for the soul)) scumbag he finished
    2. gsg955
      gsg955 11 October 2013 11: 33 New
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      Psheks are much unarmed, and how many of ours were killed in 1920. in concentration camps. So thanks to Stalin for Katyn.
      1. andrey1508
        andrey1508 11 October 2013 13: 20 New
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        Every trash is enough in every nation. Stalin needs to be thanked for 37 years - he cut out the fifth column in the country, which remembered the civil war.
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 11 October 2013 15: 06 New
          +7
          Quote: andrey1508
          he carved the fifth column in a country that remembered the civil war.

          And the other "columns" did not remember the civil? Have they lost their memory?
        2. BBM
          BBM 11 October 2013 17: 32 New
          -7
          it is a pity that your ancestors were not part of the destroyed.
        3. goldfinger
          goldfinger 11 October 2013 20: 03 New
          +3
          Quote: andrey1508
          Every trash is enough in every nation. Stalin needs to be thanked for 37 years - he cut out the fifth column in the country, which remembered the civil war.

          I can not resist, let banyat. Well, you scum!
          Themselves would probably rush to a team of "cutters?"
          Because of such "cutters" and shy away from Russia.
          It’s a pity, your ancestors didn’t fall into the fifth column, all of them were probably in the cutters. An apple from an apple tree ...
          1. pavlo
            pavlo 12 October 2013 00: 00 New
            -5
            Ass did not give a word!
          2. peter_shchurov
            peter_shchurov 12 October 2013 13: 34 New
            -2
            And I somehow do not feel sorry for those who participated in the Civil War, got what they deserved, creatures.
          3. catapractic
            catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 21 New
            +1
            not about all in one measure.
        4. pavlo
          pavlo 11 October 2013 23: 59 New
          -1
          Well, not Stalin, Yezhov!
          1. catapractic
            catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 23 New
            0
            the owner is responsible for the dog
      2. Syrdon
        Syrdon 11 October 2013 13: 22 New
        +6
        Stalin did not answer for Katyn, it was not his work, not our hands at all.
        1. catapractic
          catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 23 New
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          however to the point
      3. Dimych
        Dimych 11 October 2013 14: 55 New
        +4
        do not hang on Comrade Stalin Katyn.
      4. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 11 October 2013 17: 00 New
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        The concentration camps were not for the isolation of prisoners, not for work, but for death, the Slavic brothers came up with for the Russians. Starved to death. Where is the burial place? Russia released the Czechs - the result? The theft of gold and the surrender of Kolchak. Brothers Slavs betray at any time. There are Russians (not by ethnicity), there are speakers of Slavic languages ​​...
        1. es.d
          es.d 11 October 2013 18: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: VADIMKRSK
          The concentration camps were not for the isolation of prisoners, not for work, but for death, the Slavic brothers came up with for the Russians. Starved to death.


          Wow! And I thought the British were for the Boers.
          1. brr7710
            brr7710 11 October 2013 20: 52 New
            +2
            Wow! And I thought that the British for the Boers. [/ Quote]

            The British are someone else, but the rest have improved the original version, so to speak!
        2. brr7710
          brr7710 11 October 2013 20: 51 New
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          [qThere are Russians (not by ethnicity), there are speakers of Slavic languages ​​... [/ quote]

          I completely agree with this !!!
          How many times the Slavic brothers were supported, but ended in "pogroms" in our homeland.
      5. Doctorleg
        Doctorleg 11 October 2013 19: 36 New
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        Quote: gsg955
        Psheks are much unarmed, and how many of ours were killed in 1920. in concentration camps. So thanks to Stalin for Katyn.

        Those. the Poles were only unarmed, but ours in Katyn were shot dead. But actually in the article about the uprising in Warsaw it is written where the Poles fought selflessly.
      6. brr7710
        brr7710 11 October 2013 20: 47 New
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        Quote: gsg955
        Psheks are much unarmed, and how many of ours were killed in 1920. in concentration camps. So thanks to Stalin for Katyn.


        I don’t say that Stalin is guilty of the Katyn Tragedy, but I completely agree with you on determining the essence of psheks !!!
      7. catapractic
        catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 19 New
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        if she certainly was ...
    3. andrey1508
      andrey1508 11 October 2013 13: 18 New
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      Whoever fought by the rules is the one to be judged by the law of war. And who burned the civilian population and released the guts to parents in front of the eyes of children - you can’t spare, this is a mad dog.
    4. Uncle
      Uncle 11 October 2013 15: 08 New
      +9
      Quote: svskor80
      In battle, it is necessary to break the head of the enemy, and the prisoner to judge and punish by the laws.

      They still treated him kindly. It was necessary to strip off the skin of the snow alive and maintain in consciousness, longer, a month, so that he lost his mind.
      1. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 11 October 2013 17: 20 New
        +4
        Sadism. But for my children, I would have come up with something ..... And the law is also good - for life and protection from the crime scene.
      2. vlad0
        vlad0 11 October 2013 18: 51 New
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        ABOUT! The Poles are able to do this! In the years 45-47, they "streaked" a lot of our soldiers and officers from the Polish contingent. Especially the pilots got it. A grandfather served with a friend there in those years, so he hated psheks for life.
      3. catapractic
        catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 27 New
        +1
        ss are not combatants, but war criminals cry on them
  3. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 11 October 2013 09: 21 New
    +9
    Recently in Germany there is a tendency to blame the victims of the occupation entirely on such parts of the renegades.
    1. brr7710
      brr7710 11 October 2013 20: 55 New
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      Quote: Knizhnik
      Recently in Germany there is a tendency to blame the victims of the occupation entirely on such parts of the renegades.


      just about, it’s better to blame others, and so we are peaceful Germans, Evil Hitler is to blame for everything !!!
    2. Dober
      Dober 12 October 2013 04: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Knizhnik
      Recently in Germany there is a tendency to blame the victims of the occupation entirely on such parts of the renegades.

      And you, Rinat, “lately” have lived at least some time in Bundasia? So that among the Germans ... Eat, drink, work, relax and all that?
      If so, do you understand them well?
    3. catapractic
      catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 28 New
      0
      Of course it’s easier and calmer for conscience
  4. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 11 October 2013 09: 35 New
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    On the last night, before they were to be replaced by a new guard, the Poles smashed the head executioner with rifle butts.

    The logical ending of the executioner and the sadist! Derlivanger’s "brother-in-arms" was Bronislaw Kaminsky, also a famous executioner, who took part with his brigade in the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising. The Germans, struck by his cruelty and atrocities, themselves destroyed him.
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 October 2013 12: 06 New
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      Quote: Kovrovsky
      Derlivanger’s brother-in-arms was Bronislaw Kaminsky, also a famous executioner who took part with his brigade in the suppression of the Warsaw Uprising. The Germans, struck by his cruelty and atrocities, destroyed him themselves.

      Not certainly in that way. As far as I remember, not only Germans banged Kaminsky, he was beaten by the ESECA, i.e. even for them the level of atrocities turned out to be prohibitive.
      What could be transcendent for the SS men - I hardly have enough fantasy for this. I have no doubt that Herr Kaminsky in the next world got a nimble and proactive and a quality frying pan. There, it seems as if on business it is being rewarded, "we have not 37 year" no one will say ...
      1. pawel57
        pawel57 11 October 2013 19: 52 New
        +2
        the thing is dark. Many write that between Kaminsky and ss I don’t remember the last name there have long been hostile relations. The German took advantage of the situation and killed Kaminsky. Having been captured, he gave out to mitigate his fate as the destruction of a terrible punisher by him. no witnesses. Kaminsky was respected by Himler and his subordinates.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 11 October 2013 20: 02 New
          0
          You still don’t know the biography of Meletiy Zykov! A Soviet Jew, circumcised according to all the canons of Judaism. He joined the service of Hitler. That's the secret of World War II - a super secret! How so? You’ll understand the hell --- but the fact! Read
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 11 October 2013 20: 18 New
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            Maybe our comrades from Israel will clarify something on this type? Too dark personality.
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 October 2013 21: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: pawel57
          dark thing

          Absolutely agree
          Quote: pawel57
          Many write that between Kaminsky and ss I don’t remember the last name there have long been hostile relations. The German took advantage of the situation and killed Kaminsky

          But once I took advantage of the situation, it turns out that there was something to use? After all, just taking it and banging would probably not have gotten away with it? Apparently Kaminsky did something so that there were formal grounds for its elimination, suitable even for the SS, and this says a lot
    2. Snoop
      Snoop 11 October 2013 23: 35 New
      0
      This comrade in 1935 was expelled from the CPSU (b) for criticizing collectivization, in August 1937 he was arrested and convicted allegedly for belonging to the Chayanov counter-revolutionary group (“Labor Peasant Party”). Initially serving a link in with. Suerka of the Uporovsky district of the Omsk region (now the Tyumen region), then a technologist for alcohol production at Sharashka in Shadrinsk. March 28, 1940 was recruited by the Shadrinsky department of the NKVD under the nickname "Ultramarine" for the development of exiled Trotskyists. In early 1941, he was released and sent to a settlement in Lokot. Before the war, he worked at the distillery in Lokta. On October 4, 1941, German troops occupied the village of Lokot, Oryol Oblast (now it belongs to the Bryansk). It would be better shot.
  5. Stiletto
    Stiletto 11 October 2013 09: 38 New
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    “For several nights they led the prisoner into the corridor and, as they say,“ took their soul away. ”On the last night, before they were to be replaced by a new guard, the Poles beat the head executioner with rifle butts. And although the act itself very beautiful, but who can blame them? "

    - That's right, the dog - dog death.
  6. malikszh
    malikszh 11 October 2013 09: 39 New
    0
    Loss of the regiment exceeded 300% - how so 300%? 100% is the maximum?
    1. SPQR1977
      SPQR1977 11 October 2013 10: 08 New
      +4
      The regiment was constantly replenished
  7. Echo
    Echo 11 October 2013 10: 19 New
    +7
    Quote: svskor80
    In battle, it is necessary to break the head of the enemy, and the prisoner to judge and punish according to the laws. The SS man is certainly not sorry for this, he got his, but the Poles showed their essence quite frankly.

    And in my opinion the Poles did the right thing. For the villain and flour.
  8. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 October 2013 10: 55 New
    +4
    It’s scary to imagine that such scum could live up to now.
    1. catapractic
      catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 32 New
      0
      many survived look at the Baltic
  9. understudy
    understudy 11 October 2013 11: 04 New
    +2
    There is a "rain man." The defendant is a "man of war." A personal example and 12 injuries speak for themselves. Well, he got what he deserved.
  10. Sunjar
    Sunjar 11 October 2013 11: 34 New
    +7
    Too easy for such a monster. In the vat with boiling oil, it is his place, after noble lyuli, of course.

    Hospitals were burned along with non-walking patients and staff.

    That's what I watch in German modern TV shows. Frozen Soviet soldiers are killing, robbing and raping Germans in hospitals (I don’t remember what kind of series: I watched it was distorted). They transfer their own story of incredible cruelty to the Russians. Of course, there was everything from our side, but on a much smaller scale. And indeed they asked for it themselves. After such a desire, there is no particular need to understand who is right and who is wrong.
    1. Lech from our city
      Lech from our city 11 October 2013 12: 14 New
      +6
      This series is called OUR FATHER and MOTHER.
      The Germans in the modern version are trying to whitewash their ancestors and show our soldiers rapists.
      There is an attempt to rewrite the HISTORY.
      The only plus of this film is the battle scenes shown beautifully.
    2. Lech from our city
      Lech from our city 11 October 2013 12: 19 New
      +2
      in reality, everything looked like this nonsense near our executed soldier
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 11 October 2013 19: 53 New
        -3
        In vain do you expose this Lyokha. What is the plus of our system at that time? In that they each had a decayed corporal who had a camera (everyone could afford it). We had everything strictly (accountable). They figured a lot and with pleasure the war was sent to the homeland (after a little censorship). But our soldier didn’t have this, only officially appointed correspondents. Is the meaning clear? That's why there is still a lot of their “shit” that pops up, and ours is only remembered veterans.
        1. Doctorleg
          Doctorleg 11 October 2013 20: 55 New
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          Quote: Den 11
          In vain do you expose this Lyokha. What is the plus of our system at that time? In that they each had a decayed corporal who had a camera (everyone could afford it). We had everything strictly (accountable). They figured a lot and with pleasure the war was sent to the homeland (after a little censorship). But our soldier didn’t have this, only officially appointed correspondents. Is the meaning clear? That's why there is still a lot of their “shit” that pops up, and ours is only remembered veterans.

          There is one more circumstance. On an Internet walks a lot of pictures that have been changed. These are those where the Nazis are depicted laughing next to the hanged.
          There were real shots and those that were taken. Of course, there were executions. But it is doubtful that there would be a large number of people who want to be photographed against this background, and even with a smile. Well, then the interpretation of the pictures, who did it. Could be shot underground, and write that a civilian, a soldier was killed in battle, the signature - shot. Really the photographers themselves did. My great-grandfather and great-grandmother, along with another 0 people, were shot by policemen in the Smolensk region. But something no one took photos. As I understand it, it was a generally accepted practice - do not get dirty yourself, but "entrust this" heroic "business to local - Russians, Baltic states, Ukrainians (I don’t know about Belarusians)
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 11 October 2013 21: 06 New
            +1
            Absolutely, old man, right! What I’m trying to prove on this site! There was a lot of shit on both sides. They just had a lot of cameras, and we got 0 (among the rank and file). That's where it all went ... About Photoshop -separate topic (VERY much). Fake-nemeryano !!!
        2. brr7710
          brr7710 11 October 2013 21: 01 New
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          Quote: Den 11
          In vain do you expose this Lyokha. What is the plus of our system at that time? In that they each had a decayed corporal who had a camera (everyone could afford it). We had everything strictly (accountable). They figured a lot and with pleasure the war was sent to the homeland (after a little censorship). But our soldier didn’t have this, only officially appointed correspondents. Is the meaning clear? That's why there is still a lot of their “shit” that pops up, and ours is only remembered veterans.


          I’m not even busy to support Vasily or not. On the one hand, you are right, on the other hand, you are not “moral” right.
        3. Lech from our city
          Lech from our city 12 October 2013 00: 33 New
          0
          Hello Dan.
          I believe, on the contrary, the more information people get about those times, the easier it will be for them to understand what is happening then and in the modern world.
          As for the cameras, yes you are right, there was a skew; nevertheless, these pictures are a document
          Further, with regard to fakes, I try to weed out such pictures and show them only as a talented work of psychological war experts.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 12 October 2013 00: 40 New
            0
            I agree with you Alexey. We just need to somehow try to get to the truth! After all, for a very long time we mournfully brainwashed the same thing. Do you agree with me?
            1. Lech from our city
              Lech from our city 12 October 2013 01: 01 New
              +1
              It is difficult to be impartial when studying such things in the midst of a ton of rubbish; you find grains of real information; it is just worth its weight in gold.
    3. Uncle
      Uncle 11 October 2013 15: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Sunjar
      That's what I watch in German modern TV series, frostbitten Soviet soldiers kill, rob

      Our Germans were repaid with the same coin, crushed sanoboz with caterpillars, drowned sanitary transports, they gave little else, from Germany it was necessary not to leave a stone unturned, not to let go of Germans in the 53rd, so they died in our mines.
      1. VADIMKRSK
        VADIMKRSK 11 October 2013 17: 44 New
        +2
        Something you Uncle is very angry. Old grievances? Both grandfathers fought, and cousins ​​too ... Starting with the Finns. The Germans built a lot in Arkhangelsk and Severodvinsk - for example, a paper mill. My uncle (M.S. wrestling) had a good relationship with the Germans. And nonhumans in a cage and on display to others. Suddenly, who spit? Security will turn away. For life.
        1. brr7710
          brr7710 11 October 2013 21: 03 New
          0
          [quote = VADIMKRSK] Something You Uncle is very angry. Old OA nonhumans in a cage and on display to others. Suddenly, who spit? Security will turn away. For life.


          And what do you know about life imprisonment?
  11. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 11 October 2013 11: 50 New
    +8
    Now look at the discipline of the Poles, and compare it with the discipline in our Soviet army: we have SUCH war criminals who survived before the trial (it’s another matter that we would have one sentence for people like Dirlewanger, unlike our allies).
    Although, of course, it is difficult to condemn Poles here.
    By the way, if anyone saw the film “Or See”, the punitive action in the Belarusian village is just shown there. Surely it shows exactly the "fighters" from the part of Dirlewanger. I guess as an image.
    1. sq
      sq 11 October 2013 12: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: Fuzeler
      the film “Or See”, the punitive action in the Belarusian village is just shown there

      In fact, it was worse. No wonder the old people do not like to remember life in the occupation.
    2. Lech from our city
      Lech from our city 11 October 2013 12: 20 New
      +3
      Cultured Germans entering a foreign village began their activities with the SHOT.
      1. wax
        wax 11 October 2013 14: 03 New
        15
        A huge number of such pictures taken by the Nazi soldiers and officers themselves, clearly says that they did not consider Russians to be people. So the hunters are shot against the background of their trophies. And here it doesn’t even smell like any hunting, just murder for the sake of liberating the territory from subhuman people. This is a fact, for the negation of which it would be necessary to introduce a criminal article. And then the "filmmakers" are too zealously looking for different "sentimental" stories of love and philosophical thoughts from the bastards, naturally and deservedly trampled by the Soviet soldier into the ground.
      2. catapractic
        catapractic 13 October 2013 11: 34 New
        0
        Europeans - civilization is immediately visible
    3. pawel57
      pawel57 11 October 2013 19: 59 New
      0
      There were also Poles. When shooting the film, the Ukrainian leadership requested that there be only Germans. Yes, German leadership and control.
  12. George
    George 11 October 2013 12: 11 New
    +3
    Dog canine death.
  13. kafa
    kafa 11 October 2013 12: 13 New
    +2
    even among the Reich fines, they were considered thugs hi
  14. samoletil18
    samoletil18 11 October 2013 13: 38 New
    +2
    Among Americans and Poles there were many good people in those years. They did not tolerate all scum, they exterminated.
    By the way, in one photo there are such really bestial muzzles that it’s already chill on the back.
  15. vlad0
    vlad0 11 October 2013 19: 03 New
    +1
    Frostbite And people picked up to match him. Apparently, in Germany there has never been a big problem with such scum. The most terrible thing is that now nemchura is trying to "wash off" everything. So far, only in front of us, but already very active. One of the versions that they grind to their schoolchildren and migrants: the German people overthrew Hitler in 44, and then surrendered to the Americans. And the victory of the Russians is Soviet propaganda. And the worst thing is that many people believe in it. Apparently, the 4th Reich is not far off, and the world will still see the face of German fascism.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 11 October 2013 19: 14 New
      -6
      Quote: vlad0
      . And the victory of the Russians is Soviet propaganda.

      YOU are scumbag ...
      1. vlad0
        vlad0 11 October 2013 19: 25 New
        +1
        Respected! Participate in the forum in a sober state!
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 12 October 2013 10: 03 New
          0
          Quote: vlad0
          Respected! Participate in the forum in a sober state!

          Talking about "sanity" would reinforce their comments with REAL examples from textbooks ...
          The history textbooks published in the United States and the European Union have a LOT of falsities, but not so much as you have cited. It’s more logical to reproach them with the “streamlining” of the wording and rigging of key facts (moments in history) ...

          It would be more fair to attribute your comment to “alternative sources”, really actively (and effectively! request ) brainwashing western people
      2. rpek32
        rpek32 11 October 2013 19: 56 New
        0
        YOU are scumbag ...

        slapped a minus for the inability to read.
    2. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 11 October 2013 19: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: vlad0
      Frostbite And people picked up to match him. Apparently, in Germany there has never been a big problem with such scum. The most terrible thing is that now nemchura is trying to "wash off" everything. So far, only in front of us, but already very active. One of the versions that they grind to their schoolchildren and migrants: the German people overthrew Hitler in 44, and then surrendered to the Americans. And the victory of the Russians is Soviet propaganda. And the worst thing is that many people believe in it. Apparently, the 4th Reich is not far off, and the world will still see the face of German fascism.

      I wonder where you get such information. I have a German niece's husband. So he knows everything perfectly and at school they are inculcated with aversion to fascism. But scum is in any country. Where are we from the Nazis? Are they something to rewrite, what story? Just scum. And the German chancellors travel to former concentration camps, make penitential speeches and kneel down in the literal sense (in my opinion this is Willy Brandt, but I could be wrong). Here we all feed on some rumors - one woman said. Here someone would have cited excerpts from the history books of England, the USA, Germany and looked.
      1. vlad0
        vlad0 11 October 2013 21: 00 New
        +1
        One old acquaintance from Germany arrived last year, got married and drove away
        6 years ago there for permanent residence. So she "enlightened" us, accusing her of "ignorance, limited views", etc. And she was very glad that her son, who was born in the Russian Federation, is now teaching a "normal" story. And she believes in it to madness, and considers us poor. Like this!
        1. Dober
          Dober 12 October 2013 05: 06 New
          +1
          Quote: vlad0
          And she believes in it to madness, and considers us poor. Like this!

          Rare du.ra. Exclusive!
          I would understand her if I were married to Muslim. Those. “got under her husband’s boot”, and so Russian women will drive the entire German family in three generations under the sofa, even without breaking their voice.
          Emancipation and gender equality here ...
          I also have one boy born in Russia, another is already here.
          Now my wife and I are in such a stupor ...
      2. brr7710
        brr7710 11 October 2013 21: 08 New
        0
        Quote: DoctorOleg

        Here someone would have cited excerpts from the history books of England, the USA, Germany and looked.


        You know, but I don’t believe them
    3. Dober
      Dober 12 October 2013 04: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: vlad0
      One of the versions that they grind to their schoolchildren and migrants: the German people overthrew Hitler in 44, and then surrendered to the Americans.

      Nonsense! There are textbooks in the next room, on which the boys are engaged. They certainly differ from the Russian ones. Cardinally !!!
      But not as you imagine.
      I didn’t understand about migrants. Why do Turks, Pakistanis or Iraqis need WWII history? And how can I “hammered” if I downloaded textbooks of the USSR (even 4 variants of Primer) in almost all subjects from 40-50 to the beginning of the 90s?
  16. Jager
    Jager 11 October 2013 19: 11 New
    +2
    It is strange that even mattress mattresses did not spare the glorious fighters of the Wehrmacht with subhumans. Surprising fact, but our "democratic friends", with open arms embracing the German units, poisoned the personnel of the SS division with lead. Looks like Himmler’s pets have worked nicely. But I don’t completely condemn the Poles, I even support them — you can’t judge such scum according to human laws, these are not people. Although the Poles turned out to be liberals and champions of humanism, it was necessary to give this to experiments. At least some benefit would bring. The battalion commander was clearly frostbitten and was crazy. In addition, it turned out to be amazingly lucky and tenacious. The number of injuries speaks for itself. It’s a pity that he wasn’t shot back in World War I. And the look in his photograph is peculiar.
    1. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 11 October 2013 19: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Jager
      It is strange that even mattress mattresses did not spare the glorious fighters of the Wehrmacht with subhumans. Surprising fact, but our "democratic friends", with open arms embracing the German units, poisoned the personnel of the SS division with lead. Looks like Himmler’s pets have worked nicely. But I don’t completely condemn the Poles, I even support them — you can’t judge such scum according to human laws, these are not people. Although the Poles turned out to be liberals and champions of humanism, it was necessary to give this to experiments. At least some benefit would bring. The battalion commander was clearly frostbitten and was crazy. In addition, it turned out to be amazingly lucky and tenacious. The number of injuries speaks for itself. It’s a pity that he wasn’t shot back in World War I. And the look in his photograph is peculiar.

      The fact that the Allies greatly loved the Germans is a myth. They shot them well, especially at the beginning. And then too. After Nuremberg, there were several smaller trials of cones. Even when the process was being prepared, the legal norms were easily changed so that the fascist bosses could not hide behind the intricacies of laws. The executioners were given where they committed crimes - to Poland, the Czech Republic, Russia, where the gallows were waiting for them .
      1. brr7710
        brr7710 11 October 2013 21: 12 New
        0
        The fact that the Allies greatly loved the Germans is a myth. They shot them well, especially at the beginning. And then too. After Nuremberg, there were several smaller trials of cones. Even when the process was being prepared, the legal norms were easily changed so that the fascist bosses could not hide behind the intricacies of laws. The executioners were given where they committed crimes - to Poland, the Czech Republic, Russia, where the gallows were waiting for them . [/ quote]

        Something they did not give Hess, although at that time ALLIES to us !!!
  17. Corsair
    Corsair 11 October 2013 19: 12 New
    0
    Dirlewanger himself was detained in Altshausen by a French patrol, identified, arrested and put in a local prison. The guards in the prison were carried by the Poles. They knew who Dirlewanger was and were not going to forgive him anything: neither the executed Polish partisans, nor the dead participants of the Warsaw Uprising. For several nights, they led the prisoner into the corridor and, as they say, "took away the soul." On the last night, before they were to be replaced by a new guard, the Poles smashed the ober-executioner head with the butts. And although the act itself is not very beautiful, but unless someone condemns them?


    Do you really need comments? ...
    1. pawel57
      pawel57 11 October 2013 20: 14 New
      +3
      Know ambiguously. For the German, he is the hero of which the winners slandered and vile Poles in revenge for his military successes beat him to death. It would be better to condemn and hang him. All honor in honor, we are not Derlewanger. Grandfather Stalin a wise man would do so. The death of this Fritz does not cause pity, but politics intervenes with its own rules. If the ordinary flayer were scored, then that's okay. And here the commander of the famous division, it would be necessary to judge, like our Krasnov and Shkuro, to show the crimes and the inevitability of punishment for the following honors. Show victims that retaliation and power go hand in hand. The Poles, unaware, created a halo of the hero around the villain.
      1. Jager
        Jager 11 October 2013 21: 12 New
        0
        Who then could have imagined that in 70 years this very Dirlewanger would turn out to be almost a hero and supposedly a true German patriot ??? The Poles, who had butted Oscar's carcass with their butts, could not have imagined such a thing in the worst nightmare. Well, there was a trial of Vlasov and the company - and so what? For some, he is an icon, in spite of the court and the merit.
        PS: let the Balts on the British flag break with their parades of SS veterans, the truth was and remains for us.
  18. anatoly57
    anatoly57 11 October 2013 20: 42 New
    0
    There is a good story about the “work” of the Dirlewangler scum of the Belarusian writer Ales Adamovich Punisher. I recommend to read.
  19. Day 11
    Day 11 11 October 2013 22: 20 New
    +1
    Why don’t you guys want to grind this topic? I’m without malice. Can I just learn something new for myself ?!
  20. Klim podkova
    11 October 2013 22: 24 New
    +4
    1. Regarding the Poles: whatever you say, but the Poles in II MV showed themselves from the best side. They fought in any armies, under any banners, only to oppose Germany. In all of Europe, perhaps only the Serbs really fought with the Nazis. What exactly is to combat Polish Partisans were originally created team "Dirlevanger", speaks for itself. Thugs did not go to France and not to Holland, but to the general government. Yes, and in the German Althausen Poles did not get on the tourist voucher. Well, the Poles in 45-47, this is a different story.

    2. Should Dirlewanger be judged? In Nuremberg, 12 people were sentenced to be hanged. And just tried 22! 3 even justified! There was a process over the concentration camp doctors. Do you think everyone is hanged? But no! Gottlob Berger - Himmler’s deputy, the one who created this sonderkommandu and took his friend there, and then repeatedly pulled him out of all the troubles, petitioned for his award, etc. He was tried, and what? Already in December 1951 he was free! If Dirlewanger had fallen into the hands of the Soviet authorities, they would definitely hang it! But he was in the French occupation zone, and this is the "territory of democracy". Do not kill his Poles - he could easily get off with a prison term of 10 years and get out through 5 under an amnesty "for good behavior."
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 11 October 2013 22: 48 New
      0
      I agree with you. In general, they are not cowards. Slavs. It’s in blood. But the bastards are rare. Who drove into their brains about Greater Poland from sea to sea? Pan Pilsudski! (Although it must have been hammered into his brain before him) . At a subconscious level --- Pan Pilsudsky, I respect RUSIN! There is nothing to be done.
    2. Snoop
      Snoop 11 October 2013 23: 40 New
      +2
      Especially when, together with Hitler, the entrails of Czechoslovakia were shared.
  21. Day 11
    Day 11 11 October 2013 23: 12 New
    +3
    Why, minus one without explanation, is it like a man? No, youth, you are still weak to go to such a site, are weak. Let's earn further your pluses due to cheers-patriotism! (Due to the same). You for us -...!All clear?
  22. MG42
    MG42 11 October 2013 23: 37 New
    +1
    Quote: Posted by Klim Podkova
    Warsaw Massacre

    Upon arrival in Warsaw, the regiment totaled 881 people. They didn’t take prisoners, they shot civilians - everyone, regardless of the floor or age. Hospitals were burned along with non-walking patients and staff.


    The guards in the prison were Poles. They knew who Dirlewanger was and did not intend to forgive him anything: neither the executed Polish partisans, nor the dead participants in the Warsaw uprising. Over the course of several nights, they led the prisoner out into the corridor and, as they say, “took the soul”. On the last night, before they were to be replaced by a new guard, the Poles smashed the head executioner with rifle butts. And although the act itself is not very beautiful, but who will condemn them?


    And the Poles have something to grind a tooth on the SS in particular.
    The Germans shot the scene of the mass shooting of Poles >> it is not clear what division of the SS is true, but it is quite possible what is mentioned in this article.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 11 October 2013 23: 54 New
      +2
      Sergey, if you have such a desire to figure out who, where, for whom at that time --- I can collect the info. Yours also noted there. No offense. I will provide the numbers of the Einsatzgrupp and everyone else. If you are interested in this question, in PM
      1. MG42
        MG42 12 October 2013 00: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Den 11
        Sergey, if you have such a desire to figure out who, where, for whom at that time was --- I can collect you info

        Of these warriors, the “best standard” fought best. But the losses also suffered corresponding to their courage ..
        Quote: Den 11
        Yours were also marked there. No offense.

        You mean SS <galicia> ??, so it does not apply to me in any way since my ancestors from the Kursk region moved to Ukraine after the war .. Well, except for the citizenship of Ukraine .. but this is the same thing to write about a citizen of the Russian Federation and ROA winked By the way, they fought under the tricolor ..
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 12 October 2013 00: 29 New
          0
          Yes, I know that this is not our flag! OUR --- black-yellow-white! Kaminsky residents there were thoroughly marked.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 12 October 2013 00: 33 New
            -1
            This is my flag!
            1. MG42
              MG42 12 October 2013 00: 48 New
              +1
              You said one of your grandfathers was there .. an interesting piece of a film from a German film in 2008 called "Naryl" <bridge> hitlerjugend defensive battle with advancing americans ... >>
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 12 October 2013 00: 58 New
                0
                Of course I watched! This is one of my favorites (subconsciously). And what? It's a fairy tale? No, old fellow, they fought (there was nothing left to lose). Only their homeland ... They threw such people at the end ... Grandfather is 100% one of them (I studied him, the old one, psychology is the same)
                1. Lech from our city
                  Lech from our city 12 October 2013 01: 04 New
                  +1
                  There is an older version of this film in black and white, more realistic.
                  Yes, the young Germans of those times were distinguished by rare fanaticism, which, however, quickly passed when they met with a more cruel and strong enemy.
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 12 October 2013 01: 14 New
                    0
                    I did not watch the old version of the film. Throw the link. Please
                    1. Lech from our city
                      Lech from our city 12 October 2013 01: 21 New
                      +1
                      "Bridge" (German Die Brücke) - a film directed by Bernhard Wicca, filmed in 1959 based on the novel of the same name by Manfred Gregor.
                      type in the internet
                      1. MG42
                        MG42 12 October 2013 02: 48 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Lech from our city
                        "Bridge" (German Die Brücke) - a film directed by Bernhard Wicca, filmed in 1959 based on the novel of the same name by Manfred Gregor.

                        Probably in spite of this film, the Americans inserted the final piece with their bridge at <Saving Private Ryan> final battle


                      2. Day 11
                        Day 11 12 October 2013 03: 13 New
                        +2
                        Do you know what the most powerful moment in the film is for me? This is when Hans sticks a bayonet-knife from Mauser 98K in his heart ...
                      3. MG42
                        MG42 12 October 2013 03: 23 New
                        +4
                        This scene is the culmination = this same Fritz, whom Abham had captured earlier, defended him, and an Italian-American, Caparzo, seemed to call him, wanted to finish him off when they mortally wounded a friend at a machine-gun point, in the end, Fritz escaped, and here Abham from fear settled on the stairs, carrying comrades cartridges for a machine gun, but still didn’t carry it, and the same German drove the bayonet to the Italian ..
                        Then at the very end, fate will bring Fritz and Abham, when the Germans surrender, he will pronounce Abham and the American will shoot him so that he does not tell about his shame on the stairs ..
                        Strong for Hollywood however ..
                        Everything went to bed .. hi
                      4. regsSSSR
                        regsSSSR 12 October 2013 04: 07 New
                        +2
                        Quote: Den 11
                        Do you know what the most powerful moment in the film is for me? This is when Hans sticks a bayonet-knife from Mauser 98K in his heart ...


                        yes I agree a strong moment!
                        in the series (passion for Chapay) in the last series, the director tried to use this episode from the Area (there is a moment where the Kozak kills the Red Army soldier with a dagger, almost like Spielberg’s shot), he shot the truth quite carelessly, but quite recognizably, I immediately guessed where he had stolen it from))
  23. Day 11
    Day 11 12 October 2013 00: 15 New
    0
    You can learn a lot of information through the Bundes archive. The only thing is that not everyone will be allowed until the tsimes.
  24. Alex
    Alex 21 January 2014 11: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: Den 11
    Yours were also marked there.
    Before registering all Ukrainians in the OUN-UPA and the Galichina division, take an interest in their political views. Nobody identifies you either with ROA or with SS like this.

    No offense.
    I'll try, but they spat in my soul.
  • Simple
    Simple 12 October 2013 01: 20 New
    0
    Good day Denis.

    I will expose one photo:
    Bienenstock und Elbe members pictured with Hajo Herrmann 07.04.2006
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 12 October 2013 01: 32 New
      +1
      Thank you Sasha! I heard about these comrades, but I don’t have enough information (there is an interest to sort it out seriously). There is something, but not for a serious conversation. The general market doesn’t suit me. Once again THANKS! Squadrons, commanders .. .Will be interesting, tomorrow I’ll dig up through the Bundos and talk. We just don’t need Vicki. There’s a complete lie (not all of course, but 80 percent)
  • catapractic
    catapractic 12 October 2013 15: 46 New
    0
    dogs - dog death
  • rezident
    rezident 13 October 2013 23: 55 New
    0
    German fines.
  • military specialist
    military specialist 7 November 2014 23: 09 New
    0
    It seems to me that the most concise and accurate portraits of Dirlewanger and his henchmen from the punitive battalion were written out by A. Adamovich in one of his best books about the war - “Punishers”. Despite the fierce criticism of the advocates of "socialist realism" (who certified the work as "the poetry of a knife or the experience of hyperheroes"), it is difficult to find anything else among the literary creations of that era in the depth of the transmission of the psychology of people from among executioners - punishers.
    Despite the well-deserved end (officially registered) in the death of this simultaneously brave soldier, sadistic pervert and professional executioner, there is still no unequivocal opinion. It is believed that he still fled to Argentina, where he successfully lived to old age, after which (according to the will) he was reburied in Germany. If true, then absolutely unfair.