Russia Arms EXPO 2013 - on the ground everything is in full view

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The advanced developments of the Russian defense industry are shown both in the parade and in conditions as close as possible to combat

From 25 to 28 in September, the 9th international exhibition of armaments, military equipment and ammunition is held at the Nizhny Tagil State Demonstration and Exhibition Center of Armament and Military Equipment of the FKP Nizhny Tagil Metal Testing Institute (FPI NTIIM). For four days, the participants and guests of the exhibition will be able to familiarize themselves with the latest achievements of the Russian military-industrial complex and advanced world standards of military equipment. The unique characteristics of their products are demonstrated by 2013 exhibitors from Russia and other countries. We are publishing an interview with Igor Sevastyanov, Deputy Director General - Head of the Rosoboronexport delegation at the exhibition, taken on the eve of the salon opening.

"Military Industrial Complex": Igor Olegovich, Rosoboronexport traditionally takes part in all exhibitions held in Nizhny Tagil. What is the peculiarity of this review of military equipment?

“The fact that it is here that Rosoboronexport’s foreign partners and all visitors to the exhibition have a unique opportunity not only to get acquainted in detail with the advanced developments of the Russian defense industry, but also to see military products in action. And this is not just a passage of technology in the parade before the stands, as in some foreign exhibitions, but if you will, real maneuvers in front of the public, in conditions as close as possible to the fighting ones.

"MIC": And how does Russia Arms EXPO 2013 differ from the previous Nizhny Tagil salons?

- This time, the actions of military units at the site will be held using modern means of combat control automation.

Russia Arms EXPO 2013 - on the ground everything is in full viewFirst of all, this is the collection of information about a conditional enemy, including using unmanned aerial vehicles. Then the formulation of tasks for the advancement and deployment of equipment in combat positions, the preparation of initial data for firing and, finally, the destruction of a conditional enemy. And this is not just a rehearsed and played out performance, but an almost real battle involving artillery, tanks, BMP, BTR, BMPT, aviation. At the same time, participants and guests of the exhibition will not only see the panorama of the battlefield, but also in real time to track individual moments of the “battle”. Plasma screens and a multi-channel television complex installed in front of the stands will help the audience. And if the spectacular video sequence is designed for ordinary viewers, then specialists and potential foreign customers of Russian technology will certainly be interested in improving the efficiency of the combat units, a multiple reduction in the time for preparing the initial data and opening fire. All this will take a matter of minutes. At the request of foreign customers, such Russian combat control systems can be equipped with all Russian models of military products of the Ground Forces.

"MIC": What would you advise to pay special attention to potential foreign customers of the Russian military equipment?

- The combat vehicle support tanks BMPT. This is a new and very promising product, which is actually a new type of combat vehicle - a fire support vehicle. Foreign military is not yet familiar with its actual use on the battlefield and do not know all its capabilities. And here, on the proving ground in Nizhny Tagil, it will appear in all its beauty and strength.

Another point of active interest is the T-90MS tank. Retaining all the best qualities of its predecessor, T-90MS significantly surpassed the basic model in all basic tactical and technical characteristics and, we hope, will become one of the most popular in the world. The tank proved to be excellent in terms of high combat effectiveness, exceptional reliability and unpretentious operation. The new combat tower module, increased security and improved chassis meet the modern requirements for tanks. An armament complex and a fire control system make it possible to detect, recognize and destroy targets day and night in any natural and climatic conditions. In terms of its technical equipment, a set of accuracy and temporal indicators of target reconnaissance processes, preparation of shots, firing and the ability to withstand the fire impact of the most modern anti-tank weapons, the T-90MS tank surpasses foreign analogues.

"MIC": At international exhibitions, everyone wants to see new types of military equipment. Will there be debut shows on Russia Arms EXPO 2013?

- Of course. Moreover, there will be more of them than at many international exhibitions. After all, we can not always take out promising samples abroad to show, and it is easier to do it at home. Take at least a floating tracked carrier (PTS-4). It is intended for crossing through the water obstacles of artillery systems, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, towing vehicles, vehicles, personnel and various cargoes. With a weight of just over 33 tons, PTS-4 has a high payload: 12 tons on land and 18 tons on water. Its maximum speed - 60 kilometers per hour over land and 15 - afloat. By the way, the amphibian’s patency is comparable to that of the T-80 tank. The machine is armored, equipped with an anti-aircraft machine gun with a remote control and an 400 rounds of ammunition. A new transport amphibian is of great interest to the Russian Ministry of Defense.

"MIC": Now weapons production is associated with innovative processes in design development, but there are still few concrete examples. What else will please us with the exhibition in Nizhny Tagil?

- Innovation in weapons is not just a secret, but a particularly secret sphere. Therefore, if they talk about it, then only in the most general terms. At Russia Arms EXPO 2013 we will be able to see truly unique technologies. This also applies to such models as the T-90MS tank, and small arms, and artillery systems.

For example, OAO NPO Pribor, a leading domestic enterprise in the development and production of artillery small-caliber ammunition for automatic cannon armament complexes, will present a wide range of its products, including the 40-mm anti-personnel grenade launcher complex. During its development, a new principle was used - the so-called mortar shot with a “flying away” sleeve. This made it possible to almost double the mass of the explosive used and increase the fragmentation effect of the grenade. That is, with a significant reduction in weight, the damage effect is significantly increased. The mass of the grenade launcher, the sight and the machine tool are just 32 kilograms, the rate of fire is up to 400 shots per minute, and the range is up to 2,5 kilometers. In each "holder" tape is on 20 grenades.

Another innovative model of this enterprise is 30-mm cartridges for automatic cannons with projectiles with plastic masters. Such cartridges (while reducing their cost) significantly reduce barrel wear.

"MIC": Will the Russian military-industrial complex be able to produce a new competitive military equipment?

- Should. There is no other way, as they say. The legacy of 90's with outdated machines and backward technology is a thing of the past. Now in the domestic defense-industrial complex, production is being modernized, cooperative ties are being actively restored, new enterprises are being created, the best domestic and foreign machines, equipment and technologies are being purchased. In particular, the state plans to spend 2020 billion rubles only on the purchase of a modern machine park before 500, including the volume of purchases of products of the Russian machine-tool industry to 150 – 200 billion. In this case, 80 percent of new machines and equipment will be acquired in the interests of the military-industrial complex of the country.

"MIC": Already have specific examples?

- Of course. At three sites, new enterprises are building the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern, where large-scale production of the fifth generation air defense equipment will be mastered. I note that according to the version of the American military magazine Defense News in the international ranking of the hundred best enterprises producing military products of the world, this concern occupies the 14 place. And this is just one of many examples.

"MIC": So, it is more profitable to build new plants, and not to retool old ones?

- There is no single recipe. Sometimes it makes sense to use the existing industrial site, provided with energy, water and other infrastructure, building on it a new enterprise. And then reconstruct the old production, eventually creating a single new plant. But sometimes it is more profitable, faster and easier to start from scratch.

"MIC": What, in your opinion, is the model for the development of the Russian defense industry?

- This question is difficult to answer in two words. In my opinion, measures, including state support, aimed at increasing the production potential of enterprises and the competitiveness of their products will help to realize the potential of the Russian defense industry. The replacement of outdated technologies, the elimination of over-employment and over-pricing by suppliers, the stimulation of efficient enterprises, the training of highly qualified specialists, the transfer of labor to the latest technological production, and much more are needed. In general, everything that is connected with the innovative model of industrial development of the whole country, which Russian President Vladimir Putin constantly talks about.

"MIC": Noting the increased competition in the global arms market, we usually mention the increase in supply, price and quality characteristics of military equipment. But there are hidden mechanisms of this struggle.

- Not only mechanisms, but also resources. One of them is political. But if we are talking about specific mechanisms, then it must be remembered that in some countries (Russia, China, Ukraine, Belarus and some others) there is a state monopoly on export-import operations related to weapons and military equipment. As a rule, they are carried out by a special state exporter. In the Russian Federation, this is Rosoboronexport. But in a number of states, companies producing weapons independently enter the world market, where they function as autonomous economic actors. And not always the state can influence their activity. Recall the recent arms supply scandals involving private firms and middlemen from England, France, and Germany. They sold weapons to countries that fell under international sanctions. And taking into account the fact that the states under international embargo are ready to pay big money for military equipment, some manufacturing companies, middlemen and arms brokers are ready to even violate international prohibitions and sanctions. This is not to be said out loud, but such unfair competition warms up the market and is to the detriment of the work of law-abiding states and companies.

"MIC": Now, while fulfilling state defense orders, Russian defense-industrial complex enterprises should switch over to contracts for ensuring the life cycle of military-made products. How much is this algorithm applicable to the system of military-technical cooperation of our country with foreign countries?

- In its recent activities, Rosoboronexport is introducing this practice. It means constant support of the entire life cycle of military export products from the design and construction stage, ordered by foreign partners, its further operation and disposal. This includes post-warranty service, repairs, upgrades. For this purpose, service centers are created on the territory of the customer countries, which solve these problems. Such an approach is mutually beneficial to both suppliers and buyers of military products, increases the competitiveness and attractiveness of Russian military equipment in the global arms market.

We will discuss this and many other issues with our foreign partners at the IX international exhibition of arms, military equipment and ammunition Russia Arms EXPO 2013.

"MIC": At the exhibition sites of Nizhny Tagil will be exhibited not only military equipment, but also dual-purpose and civilian defense products.

- In this regard, I would like to mention a series of KamAZ military trucks. They were created on the basis of civilian models and accumulated the best characteristics of Russian military vehicles, and also acquired additional features - increased thrust-to-weight ratio, enhanced safety margin of the whole structure, easy steering, reliable brakes and a comfortable cabin. All this allowed us to assign the highest quality category to the KamAZ military family.

"MIC": Machines of the Kama Automobile Plant adequately manifested themselves in the Afghan war and local conflicts of recent years.

- Yes, they in real combat conditions showed high throughput, reliability, endurance and unpretentiousness. Now KamAZ trucks are used for mounting weapons and military equipment, towing trailed artillery systems, special and transport trailers, as well as for transporting troops and military cargo on roads of all categories, difficult and rough terrain.

"MIC": What is the export potential of these machines?

- The excellent quality of KamAZ was appreciated by foreign buyers. For only 2004 – 2011 years, over a thousand of these vehicles were sold to Qatar, Bahrain, Yemen, Syria.

Today OJSC KamAZ continues to increase the pace of production of both military and civilian vehicles. In 2012, a two millionth truck rolled off the production line. Growing and export potential of the enterprise. So, in 2007, 13,5 sold thousands of units of various makes of this car abroad, which accounted for 25,5 percent of the total output. The possibility of creating an assembly production of KamAZ trucks in Cuba, where the production volume is assumed to be 500 cars per year, is now being considered. Similar projects are being studied by other countries.

"MIC": It remains for us to wish all the participants of the IX International Exhibition of Arms, Military Equipment and Ammunition Russia Arms EXPO 2013 successful work, constructive negotiations and promising mutually beneficial contracts.

- And we are waiting for guests, visitors and specialists at the booth of Rosoboronexport OJSC.
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  1. Sergh
    +23
    25 September 2013 18: 42
    The first form has just appeared.

    1. 0
      25 September 2013 18: 46
      Beauties ... Oh, look at what would be in a closed exhibition ...
    2. bask
      +2
      25 September 2013 19: 16
      And why the newest T-90MS tank, such an armored tower on the tower, covering the CORD.
      In the late 40s and early 50s in the USSR, developed, remote control anti-aircraft machine gun.
      1. Alex 241
        +3
        25 September 2013 19: 45
        I welcome Andrey, according to TC Zvezda, they said that the arrow would protect this building, I don’t understand, because it was closed
        1. bask
          +1
          25 September 2013 21: 31
          Quote: Alex 241
          To Zvezda they said that this arrow would protect this building, I don’t understand, because there was

          Good evening, Alexander.
          I don’t get it either.
          Of the new products, the BMPT-2 ,,, self-propelled guns Msta M ,, T-90 MS will probably be shown in metal
          It is interesting that from the presented at the exhibition they will buy for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. And how many units.
        2. +2
          26 September 2013 02: 59
          A few days ago, for such a "hernia" haili Ukrainian tank, like it unmasks the position of the tank. Of course, there was not a machine gun, but an OLS, but ours went further, on one "hernia" another "hernia" was completed.
          I mean that if it’s not Russian, then in the first comments they begin to hawk, and if it’s Russian, then of course it’s simply the height of art.
      2. 0
        26 September 2013 20: 01
        this is an add-on for street fighting
        closes the commander in the "marching" version when cleaning the streets
        taken from life - practice
        now there are no "battles at Prokhorovka"
        but cities are being cleaned regularly
        color spotted coloring?
        everything under the "Arabs" - their main use is just that
  2. +4
    25 September 2013 18: 50
    Another point of active interest is the T-90MS tank. Having retained all the best qualities of its predecessor, the T-90MS significantly exceeded the base model in all the main tactical and technical characteristics and, we hope, will become one of the most popular in the world. The tank has proven itself in terms of high combat effectiveness, exceptional reliability and unpretentiousness in operation. The new combat tower module, increased security and an improved chassis meet the modern requirements for tanks.


    can someone explain to me how to understand this? Judge on the citation T-90ms is a wonderful tank. And why didn’t it please that they refused to accept it? Is slingshot better than t-90ms?
    1. +4
      25 September 2013 19: 02
      Quote: lonely

      can someone explain to me how to understand this? Judge on the citation T-90ms is a wonderful tank. And why didn’t it please that they refused to accept it? Is slingshot better than t-90ms?

      Well, actually this is an export option, it is not intended for Russia, (I can’t know for sure, but I think the matter is in electronics and some weapons), the T-90AM is designed for Russia, it was considered expensive at the moment.
      1. Sergh
        +6
        25 September 2013 19: 29
        Quote: Max Otto
        designed for Russia T-90AM, considered expensive at the moment

        Yes, it seems that the car is not bad in appearance, I don’t see the difference from my bell tower from the T-90MS:



        I don’t know of course how to compare with the MS, well, I think the specialists will say.
        1. +2
          25 September 2013 19: 43
          Thank you for the video! good hi soldier
        2. Alex 241
          +1
          25 September 2013 20: 19
          MAIN BATTLE TANK T-90AM (T-90MS)

          NEW T-90AM TANK AT EXHIBITION IN LOWER TAGIL

          The most anticipated exhibit of the VIII International Exhibition of Arms, Military Equipment and Ammunition-2011 (Nizhny Tagil-2011), a modernized version of the T-90S tank was presented to the public. On September 9, Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin visited the site where the modernized T90S tank is being demonstrated. The Russian prime minister inspected the combat vehicle from the outside, and also descended into the tank's turret module.
          In the media and on the network, this tank is called “sample 188AM”, “modernized T-90S” and “T-90AM.” Most recently, the leadership of NPK Uralvagonzavod announced that a modification of the T-90AM tank would be presented here, but in releases on The exhibition announced about the T-90S tank, and the question arises: are we talking about different vehicles?
          General Director of NPK Uralvagonzavod Oleg Sienko answered this question this way: “These are not different cars. In principle, this is the T-90AM, but in these documents it is a modernized T-90S tank, we assigned it our codification. Everything will be clear when we finally approve its name. It will happen soon. ”
          According to the representative of the corporation, who called the modernized T-90S “the next step in the development of domestic tank building”, the modernization touched the entire range of characteristics of the T-90S and allowed to significantly increase its combat and operational capabilities. http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/T-90AM_tagil-2011.html
          1. +11
            25 September 2013 20: 52
            Greetings to all. We have 22-45, returned a maximum of 30 min ago. Nothing new. The 90 AM is a little cooler than the MC, it’s the piece machine. And so from the interesting showed only the Coalition. It banged so that the glass nearly flew out. And so all nonsense, down to the baths. Although the foreigners were sitting and ripening as underdeveloped.
            1. Alex 241
              +4
              25 September 2013 21: 01
              Greetings to Zhen, well, at least the foreigners were surprised, and that was bread! I remember the expression on the face of the American pilot, the commander of the Gulf Stream 550, when he examined the TU-134 cockpit painted with a "broom". He said something like: And how they fly on this!
            2. bask
              +2
              25 September 2013 21: 41
              Quote: Mechanic
              And so from the interesting showed only the Coalition.

              Hi Eugene. SPG ,, Coalition ,, on GSh T-72?
              Quote: Mechanic
              Will not be in the 15 year of Almaty. In general, God forbid that she went, and not just remain one of the objects.

              Really such crap turns out. Yes, unfortunate. Then only the T-90, without options.
              1. +4
                25 September 2013 21: 44
                Quote: bask
                Hi Eugene. SPG ,, Coalition ,, on GSh T-72?
                Hey. No GS updated.
                Quote: bask
                Really such crap turns out. Yes, unfortunate. Then only the T-90, without options.
                I'm already tired of screaming about it. only in response I listen to that liar, storyteller and enemy of the people.
                1. Alex 241
                  +1
                  25 September 2013 21: 49
                  Quote: Mechanic
                  No GS updated.
                  Can Zhen be more detailed?
                  1. +5
                    25 September 2013 21: 53
                    Sasha read below. I can’t say anything else. I’ll sleep, I’ll get up in 5-15 tomorrow and have to be in Tagil again in 7-30. Today fotkat banned. As soon as they let me take pictures from the exhibition.
                    1. Sergh
                      0
                      26 September 2013 06: 46
                      Guys, who will explain that on the T-90AM this is due to the stray on the tower? True thoughts are, but I could be wrong.



                    2. 0
                      26 September 2013 16: 10
                      Fotkat can calmly but accredited guests, you can only see the stands reached as a hare-stowaway.
              2. Alex 241
                +2
                25 September 2013 21: 46
                Quote: bask
                on the GSh T-72?
                Yes, Andryukh, they are still planning to do it on the KAMAZ chassis.
                1. +2
                  25 September 2013 21: 50
                  Quote: Alex 241
                  Yes, Andryukh, they are still planning to do it on the KAMAZ chassis.
                  The coalition is single-barrel, but on a new platform wink
                  1. Alex 241
                    +1
                    25 September 2013 21: 56
                    SV-KSh, wheeled chassis laughing you cunning people are tankers! laughing
    2. Trofimov174
      +1
      25 September 2013 19: 48
      Quote: lonely
      why didn’t he please that they refused to accept him?

      I did not like the fact that already in 2015, Almaty plans to enter service. T-90MS should hold export markets at this time.
      1. +3
        25 September 2013 20: 53
        Quote: Trofimov174
        that already in 2015 Armata is planning to enter service.
        Will not be in the 15 year of Almaty. In general, God forbid that she went, and not just remain one of the objects.
        1. -1
          26 September 2013 15: 53
          But what are you again pouring out fables and conjectures go to Andrew and so you sing!))) Then you told how the "platform" is already driving and even fired at it !! (about the shelling, you can tell me separately, write to me in a personal, I will definitely answer you in a personal))) and the MTO has a front and a low profile)))) Now the news that it will not be in the 15th year!)) I can imagine what fables and nonsense you write in a personal message to gullible members of the forum (if only a couple of copies to re-read, to cheer up the weather))) Everything is pretty clean - in November, rollouts with representatives of the Ministry of Defense will begin in January February and the pictures will appear. A fundamental decision was made at the Victory Parade 2015 4 Armata MBT and 4 Boomerangs. I think that the state will be at the end of the next year, since from April they plan to drive 5 prototypes in different climatic zones, so I think that the pictures will come up at the beginning of the year, all the same, conscripts will take pictures somewhere
    3. SAG
      +2
      25 September 2013 20: 07
      nothing, just Armata already on the way ...
      1. 0
        25 September 2013 22: 06
        Quote: SAG
        just Armata is already on the way ...

        Apparently, on w-o-p-e Armata, not the travel engine, nor everything else, so the "mechanic" will not be right by the 15th year, if she ever will be.
  3. Gur
    +3
    25 September 2013 19: 15
    Let's see how many contracts they conclude, I hope more, the contracts will show whether our VPK is in demand or not.
  4. +1
    25 September 2013 19: 16
    Tatar pride - the tears of Russia .... pure PR.
  5. +3
    25 September 2013 19: 16
    something vague doubts torment me .. that with Armata everything will turn out beautifully and ... quickly
    1. 0
      26 September 2013 11: 32
      Quote: dvvv
      with Armata everything will turn out beautifully and ... quickly

      Simply, "cut" and fuck.
  6. +3
    25 September 2013 19: 47
    "The heavy legacy of the 90s with outdated machine tools and backward technologies is becoming a thing of the past." ... I don’t know, I don’t know, there wasn’t much of the old stuff on our order ... all the achievements of the West worked, they were bought by hook or by hook, but they were machine tools. And technology ... in the 90s we had a lot of rubbing ... bought for a penny.
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  8. Mark III
    +1
    25 September 2013 20: 26
    There would be more photos, big, good and different.
    1. Alex 241
      +4
      25 September 2013 20: 37
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    2. Alex 241
      +2
      25 September 2013 20: 40
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  9. +2
    25 September 2013 20: 43
    Sednya read the information that they presented the BMP with a 57 mm gun developed with the French.
  10. +4
    25 September 2013 20: 44
    Today, planes flew all morning so that they were shaking at home, but for some reason I wasn’t angry at them as a neighbor with a drill))) Although the city was put in order a little bit and it makes me happy)))
    1. +3
      25 September 2013 20: 55
      Quote: INVESTOR
      Today, planes flew all morning so that they were shaking at home, but for some reason I wasn’t angry at them as a neighbor with a drill))) Although the city was put in order a little bit and it makes me happy)))
      Well, yes, and the track was faked. But what do you need a reason to do this? It is rather a routine work measure, the governor, the plenipotentiary.
  11. 0
    25 September 2013 21: 16
    and they are going to demonstrate Armata at this exhibition or am I confusing, like in the summer they reported about it ...?
  12. 0
    25 September 2013 21: 16
    Was it not there that they promised to show the MBT on the Armata platform.?. By the way (!), where is he? what
    1. 0
      25 September 2013 21: 21
      you never know what we promised =))))
      1. +2
        25 September 2013 21: 30
        Quote: Yves762
        Was it not there that they promised to show the MBT on the Armata platform.?. By the way (!), Where is he?

        Quote: ilichstar
        you never know what we promised =))))

        Every year they promise to show the rebar, why do they promise then they postpone the show? They will train them so that the next time they announce the show of a new sample, they can safely add about 5 years.
    2. Alex 241
      0
      25 September 2013 21: 31
      The latest Armata combat platform, or, as experts call it, the “tank of the future”, is not ready for public display and is unlikely to be demonstrated at the Russia Arms EXPO 2013 international arms exhibition. This was announced today, September 23, in anticipation of the event by the governor Sverdlovsk region Evgeny Kuyvashev.

      “Armata is a product that does not yet need to be displayed for many reasons, and it is unlikely to be shown at Russia Arms EXPO,” the head of the region said. - Its production has certain stages. This is creation, and testing, and more; the whole process is there.

      Despite this, according to veved.ru, “Armata” may be shown behind closed doors. Because this development is secret, and it has a certain clearance format. They plan to launch it in the Armed Forces of Russia only after a few years, so the project is still classified.
      1. Alex 241
        0
        25 September 2013 21: 35
        And here is information from a different source, in short, nothing is clear. In Nizhny Tagil, the largest in Russia and one of the most representative arms and equipment exhibitions in the world, Russia Arms Expo-2013, RAE-2013, opened. During the exhibition, a number of the latest weapons systems, including secret ones, will be demonstrated
        Updated at 10.15 Moscow time on September 25
        New items: from "Armata" to "Boomerang"
        The main premiere of the salon should be the latest models of equipment for the Russian Armed Forces, primarily the newest main battle tank "Armata", a military expert, editor-in-chief of the magazine "National Defense" Igor Korotchenko told the Voice of Russia:
        Read in full: http://rus.ruvr.ru/2013_09_24/Russian-Arms-Expo-2013-novaja-zhizn-uralskogo-foru
        ma-7190 /
        1. Sergh
          +2
          25 September 2013 21: 56
          Quote: Alex 241
          "military expert, editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko:

          Oh Alexander! Completely behind the times !!!
          Quickly read the article "False graduates for clean water", just about Korotchenko.
          1. Alex 241
            +1
            25 September 2013 22: 00
            Already, thanks to my colleague. And I am not surprised that the former cleaning lady in the leather dispensary worked in a high position, though I forgot in which department. So why be surprised.
        2. +1
          25 September 2013 22: 12
          Quote: Alex 241
          In short, nothing is clear


          Quote: Alex 241
          the military expert, editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine Igor Korotchenko told the Voice of Russia:



          And what is incomprehensible? As usual, Korotchenko zhzhot.
      2. +3
        25 September 2013 21: 54
        Quote: Alex 241
        because this development is secret,

        Whoever thinks that the level of secrecy is now at least as good as the level of the USSR? I personally think that everyone who is interested and willing to pay money already has enough information on Armatey about the progress of its development / refinement. And the current secrecy is from ordinary people.
        1. Alex 241
          0
          25 September 2013 22: 01
          Previously, even for a blank sheet with the stamp SECRET, they sent to the eternal beach without the sea, how many fates were broken!
  13. +2
    25 September 2013 22: 48
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  14. 0
    25 September 2013 23: 01
    And what kind of armored personnel carrier "Atom" was presented there? They say the largest armored personnel carrier in Russia
  15. 0
    25 September 2013 23: 06
    the armature should be shown ... the question is only in an open or closed show ... curiosity is breaking
  16. +1
    25 September 2013 23: 51
    Quote: loki565
    And what kind of armored personnel carrier "Atom" was presented there? They say the largest armored personnel carrier in Russia
  17. +1
    25 September 2013 23: 54
    The prototype infantry fighting vehicle of the BMP of the future was presented today in Nizhny Tagil at the 9th International Exhibition of Arms and Ammunition Russian Arms Expo-2013 by the Russian corporation Uralvagonzavod together with the French company RENAULT Truck Defense. This was announced today by the General Director of Uralvagonzavod Oleg Sienko.

    “We distributed our capabilities in a 50/50 ratio: the French side provided the transmission, engine, concept, and fire control system, we provided armaments, including the possibility of using our components and assemblies,” Sienko said. [Media = http: / /www.armouredvehicle.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/t
    ahil-rae_9-704x400.jpg]
    1. +1
      26 September 2013 00: 14
      Is there a performance characteristics? Although he reminds me of someone ...
      1. Alex 241
        +1
        26 September 2013 00: 25
        The second novelty caused a slight stir in the blogosphere, because the first photographs of it were mistaken for "Boomerang". In fact, this is a wheeled infantry fighting vehicle - the fruit of the relationship between UVZ and the famous French engineering concern. The eight-wheeled giant, two human heights, looks damp so far - the project is only 4 months old, they have not even come up with a beautiful name yet. From a European parent, it has a transmission, an engine, a concept, a fire control system. From the Russian one, everything else, including the 57mm cannon. The latter, according to the management of UVZ, distinguishes the car from its competitors. The Russian military has not yet spoken out about it yet. Denis Mokrushin posted a photo of a new Russian unit, which is preparing to be shown at the Russia Arms EXPO 2013. Some say that this is the same Boomerang. The gun is a 57-mm S-60 anti-aircraft machine gun, its armored version has already been worked out for the modernization of the PT-76B tank.

        For those who think that this gun is weak, I would like to inform you that with an armor-piercing projectile at ranges of 1000-1500 m in the side projection, it will disable any modern tank, and with a very high probability. At ranges of 2000 m, it hits armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles from any angle. The maximum oblique firing range at air targets with an anti-aircraft projectile is more than 6 km, at medium ranges the probability of hitting a target of the "combat helicopter" type with one burst is about 0.6. Here's all that we managed to find.
        1. 0
          26 September 2013 03: 06
          What a moron design? It would be better not to show, otherwise one gets the feeling that this is a stupidly new cut of dough.
          1. +2
            26 September 2013 04: 02
            Well, first of all, it's a half plywood layout. Design like most European armored personnel carriers. Awesome, good mine defense. A powerful gun, although you can probably put melon, the size of the case allows
        2. 0
          26 September 2013 12: 19
          Quote: Alex 241
          For those who think that this gun is weak, I would like to inform you that with an armor-piercing projectile at ranges of 1000-1500 m in the side projection, it will disable any modern tank, and with a very high probability. At ranges of 2000 m, it hits armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles from any angle. The maximum oblique firing range at air targets with an anti-aircraft projectile is more than 6 km, at medium ranges the probability of hitting a target of the "combat helicopter" type with one burst is about 0.6. Here's all that we managed to find.


          Twenty-five again, why are you all so drawn to the BMP to fight tanks. In my opinion, a gun of this caliber on this unit is redundant. He with the infantry and light armored vehicles should mainly fight.
  18. +3
    26 September 2013 00: 07
    Quote: Kars
    Quote: Alex 241
    because this development is secret,

    Whoever thinks that the level of secrecy is now at least as good as the level of the USSR? I personally think that everyone who is interested and willing to pay money already has enough information on Armatey about the progress of its development / refinement. And the current secrecy is from ordinary people.

    Most connoisseurs from the USSR, who do not own grammar and spelling. Maybe this phrase is expressed that excites many, but even the L-students in the USSR wrote without so many errors. Let’s start if you are happy for the Fatherland. yourself.
  19. 0
    26 September 2013 00: 33
    It looks like this new Russian-French infantry fighting vehicle doesn’t jump from the side; You have to carry the stairs with you. It painfully looks futuristic.
    1. +2
      26 September 2013 01: 09
      Well, riding on armor is purely Russian extreme, in Western countries they strengthen mine protection and ride inside the BMP. It was created to protect against small arms and fragments
  20. +1
    26 September 2013 04: 11
    Quote: Alex 241
    I welcome Andrey, according to TC Zvezda, they said that the arrow would protect this building, I don’t understand, because it was closed

    Likely with this protection the shooter can be quickly equipped with a T72 that does not have a guided turret. So to say a gift to the Syrian tank ...
  21. marat1000
    -1
    26 September 2013 08: 43
    Even all the equipment merges, painted ugly, the color scheme is disgusting
  22. 0
    27 September 2013 00: 07
    Brothers, enlighten me, why do I need to invest a huge amount of money to develop all kinds of new-fangled electronic devices for monitoring the battlefield and command and control of the troops, if only one low-power nuclear charge with the help of EMR disables them at times, disrupting the battle control system that is so well-tuned at the training ground . Or have I completely forgotten what? I was taught in the last century that the most effective way: flags and do as I recourse