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Joan of Arc from near Tambov

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September 30, 1941, the Nazi command moved its tank hordes in the last, as it seemed to them then, attack on Moscow.


Summoning Zhukov from Leningrad, the Supreme Commander sent him to the front line to personally investigate the situation there. Once west of Moscow, the illustrious commander reported that the front was completely open to the advancing fascist hordes. Having broken through our defenses, on October 10, the Nazis surrounded the five armies belonging to the Western and Reserve fronts in the Vyazma region. October 7 8-th year George Konstantinovich much later called the most difficult day in the battles for the capital: "On this day, the fascist" tigers "went to us almost in the parade ...". At the same time, Joseph Vissarionovich issued a decree on the mining of the most important objects of the city - bridges, industrial enterprises, etc. Tens of thousands of inhabitants, beating themselves out of strength, hastily dug trenches, escarpes and anti-tank ditches. Under Moscow, military units were urgently transferred from Siberia and the Far East. October 1941 evacuated all foreign missions, the government led by Molotov, the People's Commissariat of the Navy and Defense, the General Staff.

However, Stalin, who made the decision to fight for Moscow to the last, remained in the city. 19 October was a state of siege. Every resident of the capital was preparing for street fighting. The idea that the city could go to the enemy seemed unbearable. People thousands were enrolled in the workers' and communist battalions and squads. In each of the twenty-five areas, their own detachments of snipers, tank destroyers and demolition men were formed.

Among those who remained in Moscow was Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, a young Komsomol member. In one of the troubled October days, she crossed the threshold of the Cabinet of the Komsomol Secretary of the Moscow City Committee Alexander Shelepin. The girl managed to finish the ninth grade, knew the German language well and heard that the Central Committee of the Komsomol organizes an intelligence and sabotage school, in which, among other things, high school students will be trained for later transfer to the enemy rear.

Decades later, Alexander Nikolaevich Shelepin will head the entire Soviet KGB, get the nickname “Iron Shurik”, become a member of the Politburo, take an active part in Khrushchev’s dismissal, and in the mid-sixties enter the fight against Secretary-General Leonid Brezhnev. He will not be able to win this battle - he will be expelled from the Kremlin, expelled from the capital.


The leaders of the reconnaissance and sabotage unit under the number 9903 personally talked in the Shelepin office with Komsomol members who received directions from the local district committees. The conversation was extremely short and tough: “Motherland needs patriots able to withstand any trials, sacrifice themselves ... Ninety-five percent of you will die. The fascists do not know mercy and brutally kill the partisans ... If you are not ready for this, just say so. No one will condemn you, and fulfill your desire to fight the enemy at the front ... ". But even those who agreed were often given a turn from the gate. Not taken due to health problems, behavior in front of the commission, biography, pedigree. Initially, Zoe Kosmodemyanskaya also refused. In a conversation that took place in the office of the secretary of the Moscow Komsomol city committee, the girl felt that she ... was not trusted. Of course, she was well aware of her “sins” - of her origin ...

Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya was born in the village of Osinovye Gai (which means “aspen grove”), located a hundred kilometers from Tambov. Her paternal grandfather, Peter Ioannovich Kozmodemyanovsky, was a graduate of the Tambov seminary and worked as a priest in the local Church of the Sign. The surname "Kozmodemyanovskie" derived from the names of two saints, Kozma and Demyan, revered by the people. In the autumn of 1918, after the release of the decree of the Military Commissariat on the mobilization of horses for the Red Army, unrest began among the peasants, anxious about harvesting. One of the organizers of the riots found Peter Ivanovich, soon after that he died at the hands of the Bolsheviks under unexplained circumstances. The church, despite the complaints of believers, was also closed. Zoe's father, Anatoly Petrovich, did not manage to finish the seminary, took part in the civil war, and soon after returning, he married a local resident, Lyubov Timofyevna Churikova. They worked together: Lyubov Timofeevna was a teacher, and Anatoly Petrovich was in charge of the library.

Zoya was born on September 8 of 1923. However, in many sources is the date 13 September. This was the result of an error in the response to a request from Moscow in the 1942 year, during the work of the commission to identify the body of the deceased. In fact, on the day of 13 on September 1923 of the year Zoe was registered. In 1925, the Kozmodemyanovsky couple had a son, Alexander.

When Zoe was six years old, collectivization came to their village. The family suddenly left the black-earth Tambov region and moved to the Irkutsk region in the deep and snow-covered village of Shitkino. According to one version, Anatoly Petrovich spoke too harshly at the local meeting about collective farm construction, on the other, Kozmodemyanovskys fled, fearing denunciations.

Many years later, when the name Zoya was already known to everyone in the country, her mother published the book The Tale of Zoya and Shura. These generations will subsequently bring up several generations of Soviet citizens. From the fifties to eighties of the last century, this work was reprinted with an interval of hundreds of thousands of copies a year. To circumvent domestic censorship and at the same time explain to readers how Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya and her whole family found themselves in Siberian wilderness, mother wrote ingeniously simple: “My spouse and I decided to go to Siberia. See the world, see the people!


At the same time, the elder sister of Lyubov Timofeevna, Olga, managed to firmly settle in Moscow. She worked in the apparatus of the People's Commissariat of Education, where Nadezhda Krupskaya also worked. After another tearful request from the employee, the widow of the founder of the USSR helped her to release her Tambov relatives from Siberia. However, in Moscow Kozmodemyanovskie already registered as Kosmodemyanskie.

Initially, the family settled in an ordinary communal apartment, but after two years they were given a more spacious room in the 7 room at Aleksandrovsky Proezd. Zoe and her little brother went to the first grade. Mother began to teach in elementary school, while simultaneously studying at the Pedagogical Institute. My father got a job at the Timiryazev Academy, worked on shorthand courses. Also, following my old dream, I studied hard, getting ready to enter a technical institute. However, the dream remained unfulfilled. Anatoly Petrovich fell ill and, despite the successful operation, he died in the 1933 year. His father was very fond of his family, his loss was a heavy blow. Children had to quickly grow up, get used to live without a breadwinner.

Zoe studied well, read a lot, was fond history and dreamed of getting into the Literary Institute. In October 1938 of the year she joined the Komsomol, she was elected Komsomol gruporgom. It should be noted that the girl had a difficult character, relations with comrades did not always develop successfully. The children complained about its rigor and exactingness, and the school teachers said: "Never back down from what they consider to be true." After being re-elected as a group organizer in 1939, Zoe had a nervous breakdown. She became less sociable, thoughtful and absent-minded. Lyubov Kosmodemyanskaya wrote: “The nervous disease was due to the fact that the guys did not understand it. The inconstancy of her friends, the disclosure of secrets - Zoya did not like this, worried and, as a rule, sat alone. ” In 1940, the girl got sick with acute meningitis, after which she spent a long time recovering in a sanatorium in Sokolniki. Here she became friends with Arkady Gaidar being treated. In the same year, despite the huge number of missed classes, Zoe was able to finish the ninth grade of school number XXUMX.

The well-known historian Mikhail Gorinov wrote about her: “A complex, refined nature, painfully reacting to the imperfection of the world, its incompatibility with high ideals. The separation of dreams from reality was experienced by Zoya extremely sharply, leading to alienation, loneliness and nervous breakdown. ”

The war for Kosmodemyanskys, as well as for many inhabitants of our country, was an absolute surprise. Together with the other guys, Zoya and Alexander began to be on duty during raids on the roofs of houses. The girl also sewed clothing bags and buttonholes for the front-line soldiers, helped at the factory, took accelerated courses of nurses.

After reviewing her case in the intelligence and sabotage school, the commission was dissatisfied. Corrections in the name of Zoya, the biography of his grandfather, the priest, the reference of his parents to Siberia — all of this did not dispose to the recruitment of future saboteurs. Shelepin failed to make a decision and handed her case over to the head of the school to the legendary major Sprogis. In his memoirs, Arthur Karlovich wrote that Zoya was not suitable for the tasks of reconnaissance groups. However, after the refusal, the girl declared: “I want to fight for the Motherland” and stayed overnight near the Major’s office. Reluctantly, Sprogis credited Kosmodemyanskaya.

At the very end of October, 1941 of the year, more than two thousand Komsomol members arrived in batches at the assembly point near the former “Colosseum” cinema. From here, boys and girls in covered trucks were taken to a reconnaissance school located in Kuntsevo and officially called the military unit 9903 of the headquarters of the Western Front. Time in the study did not lose. An hour after arrival, according to the recollections of fellow Zoyin, class began. The class brought pistols and grenades. For three days the guys learned to navigate in the woods, put mines, blow up objects, use a map and ... kill people. At the beginning of November, Zoe’s squadron received the first mission - to lay mines on the roads behind enemy lines.

Literally, the text of the assignment for the group in which Kosmodemyanskaya was included was: “Prevent fuel, ammunition, manpower and food from being brought in by mining roads, setting ambushes, arson and blasting bridges in the Shakhovskaya-Knyazhy Mountains road. The operation will be considered completed successfully if: 1. destroy from five to seven motorcycles and cars; 2. destroy two or three bridges; 3. burn one or two depots with fuel or ammunition; 4. destroy from fifteen to twenty German officers. "


At the cadets, before sending, civilian clothes were worn, strap bags with food, ammunition, tol and gasoline were hanging over their shoulders. The guys they weighed about twenty pounds, the girls - a little less. Under padded jackets and coats, pistols were hidden. Each scout signed that he was familiarized with the combat mission for the whole group. November 4 squad Zoe was redeployed near Volokolamsk. For several days the guys got to the place, scattered thorns, mined well-built roads. During the day the group passed up to twenty kilometers. Rested in turn for two or three hours at dawn or afternoon, often waking up from the cold. Soon, due to careless handling of tolom, the stock of crackers disappeared, and other products began to run out. Patients appeared in the detachment, in particular, Zoya had a cold, and she started having otitis. However, after the commander gave the order to return, the girl declared her readiness to continue the task. Scouting saboteurs returned to base without loss of 11 on November 1941 of the year.

A special military unit 9903 intelligence department of the Western Front was formed specifically to conduct sabotage in the rear of the enemy. Its commanding staff was recruited from students of the Frunze Military Academy, and the basis was composed of Komsomol members of Moscow and its suburbs. In the course of the battles for the capital of Russia, about fifty combat detachments were trained in this unit. From September 1941 to February 1942, they made almost ninety penetrations into the German rear, destroyed more than three and a half thousand Nazis, eliminated thirty-six traitors and defectors, thirteen tanks with fuel and fourteen tanks were blown up.


On November 17, 1941, Stalin issued a secret order at number 428. In it, instead of the usual appeal to those who should execute it, the leader immediately took the bull by the horns: “The arrogant enemy thought to winter in the warm houses of Leningrad and Moscow ... Do not allow the German "armies to be deployed in cities and villages, to chase fascist invaders from any settlements, to smoke from warm shelters and to make them freeze in the open air is our important task." To implement this, it was proposed: “Burn and destroy all settlements located in the rear of the Nazi troops and forty-sixty kilometers and twenty-thirty kilometers away from the main roads from the front line. To quit this task Aviation, use mortar and artillery fire, detachments of skiers, scouts, partisans and saboteurs equipped with Molotov cocktails, grenades and subversive weapons ... In the event of a forced withdrawal of our units ... withdraw the entire Soviet population, be sure to destroy settlements without exception ... ".

Joan of Arc from near Tambov


Of course, this order opens a very painful and controversial page of the battle for Moscow. The truth about that war is much worse than we can imagine today. The civilian population of the country did not know anything about this secret ruling, nor did it know about the danger of the next offensive of the fascist troops on the capital of our Motherland. The least aware were those who found themselves in the territory of the Moscow region occupied by the fascists. And the implementation of the Stalinist decree primarily affected them .... However, what would have ended the bloodiest, most important battle of the Second World War, if the Nazis were given the chance to quietly rest in warm village huts and eat up local grubs - is unknown. When there is a deadly battle, at least two truths always manifest themselves in the actions of people: philistine (save at any cost) and heroic (sacrifice yourself for the Victory).

In pursuance of this order 18 (and according to other 20 sources) November, the sabotage groups of Kraynov and Provorov (in which Zoya was) of the special part of 9903 were ordered to eliminate ten localities during the week: Anashkino, Il'yatino, Gribtsovo, Usadkovo, Pushkino, Grachevo, Bugaylovo , Korovino, Mikhailovsky and Petrishchevo. On assignment, both groups left together. Vera Voloshin and Klava Miloradova were in the detachment with Zoya. The front line guys went on the night of November 22 1941 year. Near the village of Golovkovo both groups attacked the Nazi ambush. During the ensuing shootout squads were scattered. Some fighters died, others (including Vera Voloshin) were captured. Some of the guys just got lost in the forest, lagging behind their comrades. The remaining saboteurs united under the command of Krainov on November 25 near the village of Uskovo. Of the original team (twenty people — ten in a group), only eight remained. There was a conflict among the guys, five of them thought that it was pointless to continue the task. Taking the necessary things, they turned to their. Three — Boris Krainov, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, and the school's Komsomol Vasily Klubkov — decided to stay in order to fulfill the order in the village of Petrishchevo.

On the night of November 27, they reached the village, in which, apart from the deployed soldiers of the 332 regiment of the Wehrmacht 197 division, there was, according to unconfirmed data, an important German military target - the army radio center. The Trinity divided the targets for arson and left the forest. Vasily went to school, Boris took over the headquarters, and Zoya went to the stable. After the task is completed, the guys agreed to get together in the forest and leave together for their own.

At about two o'clock in the morning, four buildings burst into flames in Petrishchev. The arson turned out to be a complete surprise for the fascists, the sentries raised the alarm, shots rang out at random. Returning to the agreed place, Krainov did not meet there either Zoya or Klubkova. After waiting some time, he set off on his way back, safely reaching his unit. Zoya, in turn, successfully set fire to the Germans' army stable, in which nearly two dozen horses tied for the night burned, forage stock and a large number of weapons. In the forest, she somehow missed Kraynov and, left alone, decided to return to the village, following the group’s order to the end.

Before execution. 29 November 1941


The story of the third member of the group, Vasily Klubkov, is curious. According to the declassified protocol of his interrogation by security officers from 11 in March 1942, he was caught trying to set fire to two German soldiers who dragged him to the commander. He and a guy gave a place in the woods where he was supposed to meet with the rest of his comrades. According to this version, Kosmodemyanskaya was caught in the agreed point. Klubkov agreed to cooperate with the fascists, trained in their intelligence school near Smolensk, and at the beginning of 1942, he was sent back to his home part with a task. Already 16 April he was shot for treason to the Motherland. Klubkov’s testimony, exactly like his presence in the village during the Kosmodemyansk torture, was never confirmed. In addition, during the interrogation, the guy was constantly confused in explanations and contradicted himself. By the way, according to the first version of his story immediately after arriving at the intelligence school, he was taken prisoner by the Nazis, but later managed to escape, then was captured again and escaped from them.




Having stayed in the forest one day, on November X, with the onset of twilight, Kosmodemyanskaya again sneaked into Petrishchevo and tried to set fire to the barn of a certain Sviridov. However, the Nazis were ready, not sleeping and the locals, guarding their homes. The owner noticed the girl and raised the alarm. The Germans came running and grabbed Zoya. The battered saboteur at about ten in the evening was dragged to one of the huts. According to the recollections of a local woman, she was without shoes and with her hands tied. Black lips sintering, swollen face from beatings. Zoya asked the villager for water, but the Germans allowed the prisoner to be drunk only after some time. Half an hour later, she was dragged out into the street and about twenty minutes she was dragged barefoot in one lower shirt.

Then she was brought several times and led away. This lasted until two in the morning, after which the girl was left alone. The captive was given a blanket, and Zoe fell asleep. By nine in the morning three officers came to the hut with a translator and gave her an interrogation that lasted about an hour. During the "conversation" the girl was severely beaten. According to some reports, Zoya’s nails were torn out. 29 numbers in 10: 30 in the morning put on dark blue wadded trousers and a dark shirt on Kosmodemyanskaya, took them outside and led them to the gallows built the day before in the center of the village at the crossroads. She staggered, but two Germans supported her by the arms. On the chest of the Soviet soldier hung a sign "Pyro" and taken away the bottle with gasoline.




Many residents of Petrishchevo could not look at it and left, others remained awaiting execution. There were still others. One of the residents jumped up and hit Zoya on the legs with shouts: “Why did you burn my house?”. However, the girl reached the gallows, without saying a word. At the place of execution the circle was expanded, the Germans took several pictures. The commission later established that before death Kosmodemyanskaya had uttered these words: “Citizens, do not stand or look. Need help the Red Army. For my death the fascists will take revenge on their comrades. The Soviet Union is unbeatable. ” And personally for the Germans: “It’s not too late, surrender. How many do not hang us, do not hang all, we 170 millions. " The last words were spoken when the noose already covered her neck. After a moment, the box was knocked out from under my feet .... The body of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, being subjected to abuse, hung for almost a month. Only on New Year's Eve the Germans allowed to bury the body behind the outskirts of the village.

Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya became the first girl in the USSR to receive the high title of Hero of the Soviet Union (February 1942). Stalin decided that it was necessary to do everything possible so that her feat would become a model for the growing Soviet youth. Kalinin was entrusted with the preparation of the decree, but the "All-Union Elder" then did not yet know the identity of the heroine. The member of the Politburo, Shcherbakov, was identified by Zoya, who, naturally, gave the task to the head of the intelligence school Sprogis. It was the major who made a written submission on conferring the honorary title to Zoya Kosmodemyansk. In addition, there is a legend (mentioned, in particular, in the movie “Battle for Moscow”) that Joseph Vissarionovich gave the order to shoot at the place of every surrendered soldier or officer of the Wehrmacht X infantry regiment.


Already on January 12 of the 1942 of the year, units of the 108 th infantry division entered the village of Petrishchevo. Military leader Peter Lidov heard from a local old man a shocking story about a caught partisan: "She was hanged, and she threatened them all ...". He was interested in what he heard, and at the end of January an article devoted to the nameless heroine appeared on the pages of Pravda.

The real name of the girl reconnaissance was established by a specially created commission of the Komsomol city committee in February of 1942. Both local residents and schoolteacher Zoya and her classmate took part in the identification of the body. However, after the publication of photos of the dead girl in the newspaper, several mothers “recognized” her at once. For the final clarification of the personality of 10, February, a conversation was held with Lyubov Timofeevna Kosmodemyanskaya, as well as Zoya's brother, Alexander. Soon the mother, the brother and the closest fighting friend, Klava Miloradova, arrived in Petrishchevo. Here, a commission consisting of forensic experts, Sprogis and Shelepin presented to them for identification the body of a Komsomol member killed by the fascists. After this, no doubt remained, and 16 February 1942 of the year Zoe Anatolyevna Kosmodemyanskaya was posthumously awarded the Golden Star of the Hero.

All those responsible for the torment of the young heroine were fully received from the Soviet justice. A local resident of Sviridov was caught by the Red Army after the liberation of the village and sentenced to death. A resident of Petrishchevo, who hit Zoya on the legs with a stick, was also shot. And in the autumn of 1943, five photographs appeared in the newspapers, which were found near the Wehrmacht soldier who was killed near Smolensk. They depicted the execution of Zoe, the last moments of her life. There is information that there are thirteen photos in total. However, only five of them have been published. The rest is so terrible that they are still kept in secret archives. They were not shown even by mother Zoe.

Alexander, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya's brother, having graduated from the Ulyanovsk Tank School, went to the front. Fighting valorously against the fascists, the commander of a battery of self-propelled artillery installations, the guard, senior lieutenant Kosmodemyansky, died near Koenigsberg in the spring of 1945. He became a posthumous Hero of the Soviet Union. The obelisk mounted on the side of the Kaliningrad-Baltiisk highway reminds of his exploits.


Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya became a symbol of the heroism of our compatriots during the years of the Great Patriotic War. Her image is reflected in fiction, cinema, journalism, painting, museum exhibitions and monumental art. In many cities of the USSR, streets and squares were named after Zoe, and her image, having separated from a real biography, truly became one of the pillars of the self-consciousness of the Russian people.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of the eighties, the debunking of all and the whole of the Soviet period began. Anti-communist propaganda could not ignore the bright memory of our heroine. In the press, facts of her life began to appear, presented in a monstrously distorted form, as well as new information about Zoya, based on rumors, speculation, and reminiscences of "eyewitnesses" who appeared from the depths of time. In particular, in some articles you can find allegations that Zoe suffered from a severe mental illness - schizophrenia. The authors were not embarrassed by the fact that if this were so in reality, the girl would never have got into an intelligence school. Other researchers argued that Kosmodemyanskaya did not accomplish her feat at all, attributing it, for example, to Leela Azolina. However, in December of 1991, at the request of the staff of the Central Archives of the Komsomol, a new forensic portrait research was conducted at the All-Russian Research Institute of Forensic Examination based on photos of Lily Azolina, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, the girl at the time of her execution in the village of Petrishchev, as well as images of the corpse. The conclusion was unequivocal: "The hanged girl is Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya."

Four times they dug the grave of the heroine and buried it five times again. Twice, the body of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya was buried behind the outskirts of the village, and after the war was transferred to the center of the restored Petrishchev. The last time her remains were cremated and interred at the Novodevichy cemetery in Moscow.


Some critics of the “democratic press” put forward the question of whether there are enough burned huts to be called a Hero? Indeed, Zoe did not derail the train, did not score the slain Nazis. No, her feat is not that. Few people are capable of being torn by torture, clenching their fists with their nails torn off, independently reaching the place of execution and, standing with a noose, saying to the executioners: “It’s not too late, surrender in captivity ...”. Although it seems that if she had damaged the tanks or the assault weapons of the fascists, she would also have been watered with mud. It’s enough to diligently belittle the feat of the Panfilovites who destroyed dozens of enemy combat vehicles. As if due to the fact that there were not twenty-eight of them, their deed, their lives given for their Motherland, began to cost less.

Archbishop Evgeny Michurinsky and Tambovskiy left in the museum of the heroine in Aspen Gayah the following entry in the guest book: “Eternal glory and prayer memory to the immortal feat of the great daughter of the Tambov land Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya who gave her invaluable gift, her life, for GREAT RUSSIA and her people.”


The photos of the moment of execution of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya depict the gagging Germans, who remove the penalty from several vehicles at once. There is an unshakable confidence in their faces that they will soon parade through the streets of Moscow. They do not know that the Soviet soldiers in 1943 will crush their 332 regiment in the Pskov battles into powder, and of all those who stood under the walls of our capital, only five people will survive. The new composition of the pieces will be even less lucky, it will almost completely put its heads in the Bobruisk boiler in the 1944 year in Belarus. So a Russian girl comes out with a noose around her neck trying to convey the Truth to them. It will be the same with critics. Time will erase them, and Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya will remain forever.

Information sources:
http://liewar.ru/content/view/73/5/
http://www.warheroes.ru/hero/hero.asp?Hero_id=284
http://svpressa.ru/war/article/24767/
http://www.tstu.ru/win/tambov/imena/mih/kosmod.htm
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  1. xetai9977
    xetai9977 12 September 2013 08: 19 New
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    I remember the first graders took us to watch a film about Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya. Patriotic education in the USSR was at its best. Then came perestroika ... And articles about Zoya appeared, where she was called a "terrorist" ... But sooner or later the truth will certainly prevail!
    1. Aryan
      Aryan 12 September 2013 10: 59 New
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      Everlasting memory
      I myself was born on Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya street

      ironically, one of the last surrendered Bandera lived on the same street
      also a "partisan"
      then in the 60s they were simply forgiven
      so he handed over his weapons and he was not even punished

      but fate itself punished him
      his whole life

      on May 1 and 9 we always had holidays and celebrations in every yard
      and lilacs always bloomed then and people dressed their best things

      and he lived alone with a loot and locked himself in such a house on such days

      but to the honor of our parents we were brought up correctly
      and we never teased him and didn’t suit him
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 12 September 2013 12: 12 New
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      Quote: xetai9977
      But the truth sooner or later will triumph without fail!

      Personally, as a Christian, I believe that a person can endure such torments only for Christ, not for an “idea,” even a high one. Look at her legs, they are black, but not from shoes, but from gangrene. They took her barefoot through the cold, the Germans froze, but she kept holding on. In general, the grandfather is a priest, killed by the communists and lowered under the ice, apparently from the Kingdom of God prayed for her, strengthening her spiritually and physically. Although she did not say words about Christ, no one looked into her heart, and if she did, then the censorship would not miss such words. We judge by her deeds, her steadfastness is worthy of the courage of the first martyrs for Christ, if she does not surpass them, for me personally Zoe is a saint, I emphasize, this is my personal opinion.
      1. anip
        anip 12 September 2013 12: 44 New
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        Quote: Uncle
        Personally, as a Christian, I believe that a person can endure such torments only for Christ, not for an “idea,” even a high one.

        Come on, for Christ. Yeah, Komsomol member, atheist. You don’t understand that a person can behave this way for his country, for his people.
        In the Middle Ages, the Holy Inquisition also committed atrocities for Christ, or at the bonfire of the Inquisition they accepted death for Christ, so who then was one of them for Christ? And the Germans with the inscriptions on the buckles of the Gott mit Uns committed atrocities, are they also for Christ?
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 12 September 2013 13: 07 New
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          Quote: anip
          You don’t understand that a person can behave this way for his country

          And you do not understand the torment to which it was subjected. Only supported by Christ did she bear them. Try even pulling out a tooth without anesthesia, and her breasts were cut off, her nails were torn out, instead of water they were given kerosene .... Only the Lord can create such a miracle that a person withstood inhuman torment.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 12 September 2013 13: 22 New
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            Well, where did you get such infa that you watered with kerosene? I read the testimonies of Kurt Schneider (corporal from the 332th Rüderer infantry regiment, one of the few survivors) --- there wasn’t such a thing!
            1. smile
              smile 12 September 2013 15: 09 New
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              Day 11
              Hi Dan!
              I feel an acute regret that this ... memoirs of which you read, never got his two square meters of living space, which he came to capture and wrote his memoirs ... You know, to hell with him, with kerosene, but where have you seen the Germans honestly talk about their crimes in their memoirs? I recently read one ... The book is something like ".... Memories of an essian". Served in the SS Grune, it seems in the Dead Head (I don't remember) since 39. studied and based in a concentration camp, which he guarded ... and so this Tvaryna was sincerely perplexed, and why they were not taken prisoner. You read how well they treated the Russians, a tear of emotion breaks through ... by the way, when in 42, after thirty people remained from his battalion for the second time, he went on vacation - he was sincerely surprised - and why is it jam-packed No one sat in his compartment on a packed German train ... even the Germans avoided these animals ... and this is not all that they have ... they have such authentic memoirs. Although it is precisely this cannibal that describes the course of the fighting more objectively than most Germans.
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 12 September 2013 15: 21 New
                +1
                That's what I'm talking about, Volodya. SS is not the Wehrmacht. List you who of "ours" was a member of the SS? Toto and it! I just want to prove to the peasants that if there is a Great Idea, you can build everyone up!
            2. rexby63
              rexby63 12 September 2013 15: 45 New
              +1
              I read the memoirs of a certain Beideman. He also "won" the whole war
          2. apostrophe
            apostrophe 12 September 2013 13: 56 New
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            Why did you get this? Did Christ himself come to you and tell you?
          3. Vlad 1965
            Vlad 1965 12 September 2013 13: 56 New
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            Uncle
            It’s good to carry your religious nonsense, it’s a shame to read nonsense, go to the porch, and click there.
            1. Dovmont
              Dovmont 12 September 2013 18: 59 New
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              Vlad 1965 Here comes your time to appear before the Lord, and you will tell him how religious nonsense got sick of you!
        2. Bigriver
          Bigriver 12 September 2013 14: 05 New
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          Quote: anip
          Quote: Uncle
          Personally, as a Christian, I believe that a person can endure such torments only for Christ, not for an “idea,” even a high one.

          Come on, for Christ. You don’t understand that a person can behave this way for his country, for his people..

          In vain you share. AND Uncle you too are right.
          All this is very close. Christianity, communism, the ideas of higher justice and the people's understanding of their "Kingdom of Heaven" and the willingness to die for this understanding.

          Ahead with a bloody flag
          And invisible behind the blizzard
          And the bullet is unharmed,
          A gentle step of the above,
          Snowy loose pearl,
          In a white rim of roses -
          Ahead is Jesus Christ.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 12 September 2013 12: 55 New
        +8
        uncle It doesn’t matter whether a person goes to death for Christ’s sake, for the triumph of communism or, most importantly, FOR WHAT IT BELIEVES! And for the MOTHERLAND!
      3. smile
        smile 12 September 2013 14: 55 New
        +4
        Uncle
        The article says. that the priest died under unexplained circumstances, but for some reason it is alleged that the Bolsheviks are guilty of his death .... ponder the meaning of what was written ... is everything clear? With the same confidence, the author could write that he was killed by the Tambov bandits ... and that the circumstances are unclear. And where did you get here, where did the grandfather’s corpse go? This is such an attempt to explain where the missing person went without news?

        By the way, the small memorial of Zoe’s brother is 15 minutes away from Kaliningrad by car. Nobody lives nearby, but everyone passing by can see that fresh flowers or spruce branches regularly appear on a modest slab ... the memorial is regularly cleaned of leaves ... who? All the same, we still have real people ...
        1. Uncle
          Uncle 12 September 2013 15: 37 New
          +2
          Sometimes in the confusion of the military revolutionary time people disappeared without a trace, which happened in 1918 with Peter Ivanovich Kosmodemyansky. His grand-niece, Nina Sergeyevna Lange (nee Churikova), later recalled: “During the Civil War, a gang of whites came upon Aspen Gai. She demanded horses from the priest. He did not give, and they killed him. And Budyonnovtsy buried when they liberated the village. Under the "International" (7).



          In the village where Father Peter once served, each of the oldest residents tells his own version of the death, about which in 1998 the press wrote: “All the stories shared only the horses behind which they came to Father Peter, the attic, where he hid and where he was stolen, and a pond a few kilometers from the village, near which he was killed <...>. Everything else is complete contradiction. From the version that the neighbors killed it out of self-interest, to some mysterious books that were allegedly kept by Father Peter and became the main reason for his death ... Well, literally everyone agreed on this. Father Peter was killed in the fall, and the corpse was found only the next year - in the summer at Trinity ”(8). Since, according to the stories of the villagers, the body of the man found in the lake turned out to be incorrupt, it was possible to identify the local priest by it. And the very fact of the miraculous preservation and acquisition of the relics of Father Peter served to venerate him as a saint.
          This is from the site Zoyakosmodemyanskaya.ru
          1. smile
            smile 12 September 2013 16: 05 New
            +2
            Uncle
            Well, then what are we arguing about? And just that attributing the death of a priest to red is unreasonable. That's all. Since you agree with this, I have no other complaints against you.
            1. Uncle
              Uncle 12 September 2013 16: 11 New
              0
              Quote: smile
              Well, then what are we arguing about?

              The main idea that I want to convey is that the granddaughter of a holy man took torment not for godless power, but for Christ.
              1. Alexander 1958
                Alexander 1958 12 September 2013 17: 38 New
                +8
                For Uncle
                When discussing Zoe's feat, you have repeatedly tried to deny her the right to live, fight and die for her idea! An idea that she considered correct and worthy to die for! And she didn't need faith in Christ for that. If she had been born 10-15 years earlier, most likely she would have been a member of the Union of Atheists and would have actively fought against the Church and Christ. and no matter how we evaluate it now. Then there was such a time and such people. And in general, the Secretary of the Komsomol committee was very rarely a traitor, and the facts stated in the article only confirm this. I consider your attempts to substitute the ideals of Zoe for the ideals preached by the church not only wrong, but also disgusting. This is at the level of attempts by the liberals to explain the act of a soldier throwing himself under a tank with a grenade by the fact that there was an order for additional payment for destroyed planes and tanks. Yes, there was such an order, but these heroes did not die for money! You have the right to believe in Christ or not, but you have no right to take away from Zoe the right to believe in what she thought was right. Alexander 1958
      4. Anat1974
        Anat1974 12 September 2013 20: 28 New
        +2
        Uncle. Why, why, only for Christ? You, for Christ. Another can give his life and endure no less torment for the freedom of his country, his family, for the life of his mother, father, sister, wife, child in the end. Even just out of revenge and hatred of the enemy. Yes, and a lot of things for what.
        In my opinion, you are skewing (to put it mildly) on a religious topic.
        But what if she was an atheist, did not believe in Christ, but loved her Country, her mother, brother, her people. She wanted to free her homeland from the Nazis. Will you change your mind?
        Also a believer.
      5. Vanya2013F
        Vanya2013F 12 September 2013 21: 13 New
        +2
        She died for the MOTHERLAND, for the USSR, the RSFSR, the Russian Federation, no matter how she is called. She fought and died for RUSSIA. And this act should forever be an example to us. Fight for Russia until the last breath, to the last drop of blood. Its eternal memory!
    3. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 12 September 2013 13: 55 New
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      xetai9977 (2)
      333 regiment of the Wehrmacht, for this atrocity, captured by the soldiers of the Red Army - not one of the enemy soldiers was taken, destroyed on the spot.
      This is a fact.
      Anyone who spits in the memory of this girl who gave her life for her homeland and the filthy life of slandering her is worthy of one-contempt and hatred, as a potential traitor, the fifth column in the country.
      One flutters here, den 11, a certain Uncle, carrying nonsense ....
      Do you have a CONSCIENCE, or is there something filthy in your soul instead of conscience?
      The truth will triumph, you are right, but for this, we must fight back to all the pluckers who dare to lie to people like Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya and other famous and unknown heroes of that terrible war.
      1. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 12 September 2013 14: 39 New
        +2
        Vlad 1965 (2) RU
        Oh, how someone struck this comment on the brains that in impotent spite, the minuses were instructed — WHAT, the fifth column, can’t you erase the memory of the Heroes of the War?
        1. Alexander 1958
          Alexander 1958 12 September 2013 17: 46 New
          +3
          Good afternoon! You were instructed by the descendants of Sviridov mentioned in the article or the Komsomol, which gave Zoya.
        2. Dovmont
          Dovmont 12 September 2013 19: 10 New
          +3
          It seems you are the one who clicks! No one here is trying to denigrate the memory of dead heroes! Not there, look for the fifth column. If you are an unbeliever, this does not mean that you have the right to spit in the direction of the Church, even if your opponent expresses absurd thoughts, in your opinion.
          1. Alexander 1958
            Alexander 1958 12 September 2013 20: 19 New
            0
            Yes calm down! I’m not a believer, but I didn’t spit towards the church! I am against believers spitting on Zoe’s deed.
          2. Andrey Skokovsky
            Andrey Skokovsky 13 September 2013 10: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: Dovmont
            It seems you are the one who clicks! No one here is trying to denigrate the memory of dead heroes! Not there, look for the fifth column. If you are an unbeliever, this does not mean that you have the right to spit in the direction of the Church, even if your opponent expresses absurd thoughts, in your opinion.

            Komsomol member Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya fought and died for her homeland. The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics precisely for the sake of the future of her country, she without hesitation threw her life on the altar of war.

            meanwhile, some overly zealous believers tactlessly silent about this try to make a holy martyr out of her for faith, it is an attempt to use her feat to propagate their views and causes rejection

            and here i see xnumx option
            1 citizens who believe, to put it mildly, sin by committing such insinuations (the opinion of a real priest would not hurt)
            2 citizens are completely non-believers and thus try once again to mess up the Orthodox Church, i.e. in my opinion just enemies
    4. juneart
      juneart 12 September 2013 17: 07 New
      +4
      And we (at the beginning of the 90s), a cool hand took us (from the Moscow school we were) to Petrishchevo ... There, as far as I remember, there was a house museum ... such a wooden house ... There the guide for us all this story Zoe talked about the feat in detail. So here I am, kid (80 born), I remember that then I left from there under some inexplicably unusual impression and pride ... Pride in my people !!! For your homeland !!! ...
  2. Lech from ZATULINKI
    Lech from ZATULINKI 12 September 2013 08: 24 New
    +7
    Zoya is a symbol of the struggle against the Nazis, and frankly, it infuriates me when some pseudo-historians softly begin this symbol to DIRT WITH DIRT - I will respond very badly to them.
    1. Rif
      Rif 12 September 2013 11: 01 New
      +4
      A. Menyailov answered his pseudo-historians and other trash - https://vimeo.com/55982441
  3. Prometey
    Prometey 12 September 2013 08: 34 New
    0
    The article is useful, but ambiguous. In my opinion, the author still in vain posted photos of the executed girl. And at the beginning of the article: On October 8, 1941, Georgy Konstantinovich much later called it the hardest day in the battles for the capital: “On this day, the fascist“ tigers ”marched on us in almost full dress ...”.
    Really Zhukov could write about "tigers" in 1941? Where could they come from there?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 12 September 2013 09: 19 New
      +6
      Quote: Prometey
      And at the beginning of the article: on October 8, 1941, Georgy Konstantinovich much later called the hardest day in the battles for the capital: "On this day, the fascist" tigers "marched on us in almost full dress ...".
      Really Zhukov could write about "tigers" in 1941? Where could they come from there?

      Do not catch fleas in the skin of a mammoth; look at the whole mammoth. This article is not about tigers or netigers.
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 12 September 2013 09: 54 New
        +4
        I completely agree, it is not clear why this is emphasized in the article, a completely unimportant element in the article.
    2. Sirozha
      Sirozha 12 September 2013 12: 00 New
      +1
      Also drew attention to this, for some reason ... Even google.
      Debut on the Eastern Front on August 29, 1942.
    3. AK-47
      AK-47 12 September 2013 12: 06 New
      12
      Quote: Prometey
      The article is useful, but ambiguous.

      There is no ambiguity in the exploit of Zoe of Kosmodemyanskaya. The fact that she strictly obeyed the order, no matter what he was, arouses respect, that she behaved with dignity during interrogations and during the execution is a feat. Glory to the heroes.


      1. Prometey
        Prometey 12 September 2013 12: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: AK-47
        There is no ambiguity in the exploit of Zoe of Kosmodemyanskaya.

        I'm not talking about a feat, but about how the information in the article is presented.

        PS Honestly, I did not minus request
        1. Colonel
          Colonel 12 September 2013 15: 40 New
          +1
          I agree with you, the article is ambiguous and the author is ambiguous. On February 23, he posted an article where he substantiated the physical impossibility of the feat of Alexander Matrosov. Then Alexander Nevsky got it from him (also with justification). There is no doubt about Zoya Kosmodemyanskoy’s Feat, but there are doubts about the sincerity of the author.
          Of course, this order opens a very painful and controversial page in the battle for Moscow. The truth about that war is much worse than we can imagine today. The civilian population of the country did not know anything about this secret decree, nor did they know about the danger of another fascist attack on the capital of our country. The least informed were those who found themselves in the territory of the Moscow Region occupied by fascists. And the implementation of the Stalinist order primarily affected them ....
          What is the conclusion of this statement should be made by the current, shell-shocked Pepsi Cola, youth. The article did not put any minuses or pluses. The theme is holy, but I do not believe in the sincerity of the author.
  4. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 12 September 2013 09: 07 New
    +3
    The names of the heroes, as well as their feat, will illuminate the path of the nation as the heart of the legendary Danko!
  5. Asan Ata
    Asan Ata 12 September 2013 09: 48 New
    0
    He lived in Korovino, but did not know. This is inside the Moscow Ring Road, so close.
  6. kazssr
    kazssr 12 September 2013 10: 20 New
    +3
    Eternal memory to the hero! Thank you Zoe for my peaceful childhood! Rest in peace.
    The point is not that the tigers or pz3 were walking, but the fact that they really were walking in the parade at that time.
  7. Day 11
    Day 11 12 September 2013 10: 37 New
    -6
    But nobody wants to know the truth? I don’t know whether to spread it to you or not?
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    2. malikszh
      malikszh 12 September 2013 10: 51 New
      +4
      What is the truth? that she lit houses where the Nazis took refuge? She the hero lit houses and brought victory over Moscow closer! Thanks to the veteran for the victory !!! Eternal memory to heroes !!!
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 12 September 2013 10: 58 New
        -14
        Blah blah blah! Thanks grandfather for the victory! People will be pulled to this branch, lay out! Believe me, justified!
        1. yastr
          yastr 13 September 2013 14: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Den 11
          Blah blah blah! Thanks grandfather for the victory! People will be pulled to this branch, lay out! Believe me, justified!


          I'm ashamed for you.
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 12 September 2013 10: 52 New
      +4
      Quote: Den 11
      But nobody wants to know the truth? I don’t know whether to spread it to you or not?

      Is it really you who hung Zoe?
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 12 September 2013 11: 06 New
        -10
        Ja, sie hat die unschuldigen Menschen zugleich verheizt (sorry for my french)
        1. rexby63
          rexby63 12 September 2013 16: 16 New
          +1
          Is it Solina with Smirnova -unschuldigen Menschen?
    4. smiths xnumx
      smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 10: 56 New
      +6
      Denich, what a noise, but there is no fight, the truth is that Zoya was caught by local men from the village of Petrishchevo, while trying to set fire to their houses and handed over to the Germans.
      With the onset of the evening of November 28, while trying to set fire to the barn of S. A. Sviridov (one of the guards appointed by the Germans), Kosmodemyanskaya was spotted by the owner. The Germans who were the last to lodge the Germans grabbed the girl (at about 7 pm). Sviridov was awarded a bottle of vodka for this (subsequently sentenced to death by the court). During the interrogation, she called herself Tanya and did not say anything definite. Having stripped naked, she was flogged with straps, then the sentry assigned to her for 4 hours drove her barefoot, in one underwear, down the street in the cold. Local residents Solina and Smirnova (fire victims) also tried to join the tortures of Kosmodemyanskaya, who threw a slop pot into the Kosmodemyanskaya slop (Solina and Smirnova were subsequently sentenced to death)

      http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%EE%F1%EC%EE%E4%E5%EC%FC%FF%ED%F1%EA%E0%FF,_%C7%
      EE%FF_%C0%ED%E0%F2%EE%EB%FC%E5%E2%ED%E0
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 12 September 2013 11: 11 New
        -6
        Here Romka began to open your eyes! Further, more interesting
        1. smiths xnumx
          smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 12: 01 New
          +3
          Well, of course, the order of the Headquarters of the Supreme High Command No. 0428 is a "liberal crap"
          "destroy and burn to ashes all settlements in the rear of the German troops at a distance of 40-60 km in depth from the front edge and 20-30 km to the right and left of the roads. To destroy settlements within the specified range, immediately abandon aviation, widely use and mortar fire, teams of scouts, skiers and partisan sabotage groups supplied with Molotov cocktails, grenades and subversive weapons ... In case of the forced withdrawal of our units ... to take away the Soviet population and be sure to destroy all settlements without exception so that the enemy couldn't use them

          The battle for the capital. Sat doc From defense to offensive. T. 1. M., 1994.S. 130.

          As part of the execution of this order, a partisan detachment was operating, which included Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya.
          The fact of her capture by local residents was officially documented by the NKVD, which conducted an investigation into the execution of Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, as a result of which these people were shot.
          May 12, 1942 the accused Smirnova A.The. testified in court:

          “The day after the fire, I was at my burnt house, citizen Solina came up to me and said:“ Come, I'll show you who burned you. ”After these words she said, we went together to the house of Petrushina. Entering the house, we saw Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, partisan guarded by German soldiers, and Solina and I began to scold her, except for swearing at Kosmodemyanskaya, I swung my mitten twice, and Solina hit her with her hand. Petrushina did not allow us to mock the partisan, who kicked us out of her house.

          On the second day after the partisan set fire to houses, including mine, in which German officers and soldiers were housed, their horses stood in the yards, which burned down in the fire, the Germans installed a gallows on the street, drove the entire population to the gallows of the village of Petrishchevo, where they came and I. Not confining myself to the bullying that I carried out in Petrushina's house, when the Germans brought the partisan to the gallows, I took a wooden stick, went up to the partisan and, in front of all those who were present, hit the partisan's legs. It was at that moment when the partisan was standing under the gallows, what I said at the same time, I don't remember "

          TsAODM, f. 8682, on. 1, d. 561, l. 40-40 about. Publ. in the book: Moscow frontline. S. 579.

          The enemy dictated extremely strict rules of the game. The Russians were supposed to either win - at any, most terrible price - or after some time cease to exist on this earth as a people. There was no third.
      2. Vlad 1965
        Vlad 1965 12 September 2013 13: 59 New
        +1
        blacksmiths 1977 (2) RU
        WHAT did the women and peasants who passed the Cosmodemyanskaya end up with?
        So for you, the exact same cries, sobbed already, the fifth column, unscrupulous people ..
        1. smiths xnumx
          smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 15: 41 New
          +5
          Vlad, I don’t understand something ... Do you write me down in the fifth column?
    5. wax
      wax 12 September 2013 11: 19 New
      -3
      Is it true from the archives or from liberal baubles? Dig yourself in the archives?
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 12 September 2013 11: 30 New
        -3
        True, it is such a thing that the TRUTH! Otherwise, it’s a lie! I understand, it’s hard for you to accept, but it’s true. In the evening I’ll post the testimony of a person (I was with Zoe) --- it will be interesting. And where and how --- from there- same
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 12 September 2013 11: 51 New
          +4
          Quote: Den 11
          True, it is such a thing that the TRUTH! Otherwise, it’s a lie! I understand, it’s hard for you to accept, but it’s true. In the evening I’ll post the testimony of a person (I was with Zoe) --- it will be interesting. And where and how --- from there- same

          What are you laying out? What Cosmodemyanskaya betrayed his? What else will you pull out? about this and the article is, take the trouble to re-read. Does that belittle her feat?
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 12 September 2013 11: 57 New
            -10
            This does not beg her feat. But when a girl cuts the throat of a guy (albeit a German one), you know ...
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 12 September 2013 12: 09 New
              +9
              Quote: Den 11
              This does not beg her feat. But when a girl cuts the throat of a guy (albeit a German one), you know ...

              She's sooooo ugly, much better when she, like many French women, spreads her legs in front of the invaders and smiles sweetly, seeing how they kill small children.
              1. Day 11
                Day 11 12 September 2013 13: 02 New
                -6
                Fuuu, where do you get such information? Germans kill little French kids! Link !!!
                1. smiths xnumx
                  smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 13: 07 New
                  +4
                  Dan, you were wrong: Oradour-sur-Glan:
                  In early June, the headquarters of the SS division “Reich” received a message that Helmut Kempfe, captured by the partisans, was being held in the village of Oradour-sur-Glan.

                  On the morning of June 10, the 1st battalion of the Der Führer regiment under the command of the Hauptsturmführer Kahn surrounded the village, residents were ordered to gather in the center of the village, after which the SS men took away all the men and drove the women and children to church.
                  The men were taken to the sheds, where they began to be shot from machine guns, trying to beat in the legs. After that they were doused with a combustible mixture and set on fire. Only five men managed to escape, 197 people were killed. After that, a powerful incendiary device was installed in the church, after it worked, the SS men started shooting at women and children trying to escape from the fire. Only one woman managed to survive; 240 women and 205 children were killed. Another group of 20 people managed to escape in the morning, when the SS men had not yet managed to surround the village.
                  The village was completely destroyed. As it turned out later, the day before the arrival of the German battalion, Helmut Kempf was really captured, and at night the partisans executed him and burned the corpse.

                  http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%F0%E0%E4%F3%F0-%F1%FE%F0-%C3%EB%E0%ED

                  Yours! hi
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 12 September 2013 13: 13 New
                    0
                    Well, Rom, this is the SS and not the Wehrmacht! In the "Reich", by the way, at the end of the war there were a lot of all kinds of rabble
                    1. apostrophe
                      apostrophe 12 September 2013 14: 52 New
                      +4
                      Well, what does it change, or were the Germans not exclusively serving in the ss?
                2. Vladimirets
                  Vladimirets 12 September 2013 13: 18 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Den 11
                  Fuuu, where do you get such information? Germans kill little French kids! Link !!!

                  I'm actually talking about ours, read the posts carefully. But as the example shows, this was also the case with French children.
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 12 September 2013 13: 36 New
                    -9
                    Already posted this photo. Only for you! Tell me a propaganda photo? Absolutely not! I have such (non-propaganda ones I can post a lot). It is just that they (in the vast majority) were not ...
                    1. apostrophe
                      apostrophe 12 September 2013 14: 54 New
                      +6
                      Exactly, this photo sharply opened everyone’s eyes to the dear and very kind fascists who exclusively carried enlightenment and European values ​​to the barbarians smile
                    2. smile
                      smile 12 September 2013 15: 33 New
                      +6
                      Day 11
                      Dan, I'm sorry, but give it up ... You are a great man and I sincerely respect you, but the Wehrmacht committed the bulk of the wildest crimes against the civilian population of the USSR. No SS and Einsatzkommandos would simply not be enough ... you should know about Hitler's orders on how the Wehrmacht servicemen should treat the Russians ... you remember the words "no matter who is in front of you, man, woman or child." . the lines of the order that "Wehrmacht servicemen who hesitantly use weapons, including cold weapons, are subject to responsibility"?
                      There were rare exceptions among millions of Germans ... but very rare ... and such pictures .... do you know what staged photos are? Well, like the happy Red Army prisoners or driven into slavery in Germany? So, even this photo is not a guarantee that after a photo shoot this kind German did not grab the child by the legs and crush his head on a log ... not a guarantee ...
                      1. Day 11
                        Day 11 12 September 2013 15: 39 New
                        +3
                        Everything, Volodya, is more on such topics --- not with a foot! I’m here to disassemble the Hansian technique! Maybe you're right.
                      2. smiths xnumx
                        smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 15: 44 New
                        +2
                        Denych, really fasten it, you're in the backlash of ace, but here is not the same question. But I myself harnessed for you, you know, for my own people for you (Volodya, Sasha) is always a mountain, but it’s better not to ...
                      3. Day 11
                        Day 11 12 September 2013 15: 52 New
                        +1
                        Thank you. I immediately realized! Such things through the PM. hi
                3. Lech from ZATULINKI
                  Lech from ZATULINKI 12 September 2013 17: 45 New
                  +4
                  nice, good German soldiers can be like that.
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 12 September 2013 18: 58 New
                    -4
                    If you dig deeper (according to your photo), it turns out that this is some "Nachtigall" or Latvians or Estonians ...
                  2. Lech from ZATULINKI
                    Lech from ZATULINKI 12 September 2013 19: 43 New
                    +4
                    Really heh heh. And if you dig even deeper you can scrape together the Australopithecus genes, do not tell me.

                    The Aryan nation, as I see it, is beyond your suspicion.
                  3. sergey72
                    sergey72 12 September 2013 20: 18 New
                    +1
                    Dear Alexey, I don’t know if you have ever been to the Museum of the House of Officers on Red Avenue? Do you know what caused the biggest and perhaps the most terrible impression on me? - a photo of a girl with a severed head and mockingly laid under her armpit ... That would be a photo for lovers of the "philanthropic" Wehrmacht to show ... their laughing faces dossikpor before their eyes ...
                  4. Lech from ZATULINKI
                    Lech from ZATULINKI 12 September 2013 20: 51 New
                    +1
                    Sergei has not been there for a long time since Soviet times - I will try to look at new exhibits and see what you are talking about.
              2. 7ydmco
                7ydmco 12 September 2013 23: 17 New
                0
                So go ahead, dig smile You are sure that you are right smile
  8. ed65b
    ed65b 12 September 2013 12: 09 New
    +8
    Quote: Den 11
    This does not beg her feat. But when a girl cuts the throat of a guy (albeit a German one), you know ...

    And what is it? it’s a war and it was at war and slaughtered these reptiles and burned. and did the right thing.
  9. Jin
    Jin 12 September 2013 13: 13 New
    +6
    Quote: Den 11
    This does not beg her feat. But when a girl cuts the throat of a guy (albeit a German one), you know ...


    This is war, you know! This "German guy" shot and killed our grandfathers! Do you even understand what you are writing about? Such are the "German guys", sneered at the civilian population, burning people alive in barns and exterminating them in the end of the camps. What are you talking about ??? "German guys" now live in Germany, and then they were fascists, akupants, invaders! They are enemies and they only care about death!
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 12 September 2013 13: 42 New
      -12
      Stop throwing rubbish on me! Although I understand that for 50 years they have been hammering the same thing. The Wehrmacht did not do such things! For these purposes there were Einsatz groups! Of whom did they consist, explain?
      1. apostrophe
        apostrophe 12 September 2013 14: 57 New
        +7
        Naturally nonsense, do not reduce the incandescence, the German guys did not kill or torture children or women, even their bombs killed only the Communists and their henchmen smile
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 12 September 2013 15: 10 New
          -1
          But Amer and English (so beloved by you) did not fall on the civilians of Dresden? And, of course, --- they were all fascists!
          1. apostrophe
            apostrophe 12 September 2013 15: 17 New
            +3
            And where did you get this from? Dresden's barbaric bobbing
          2. smiths xnumx
            smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 15: 27 New
            +6
            Denis, you are wrong again, it was a war, the Germans (enemies) came to our Motherland, to our land, and they did not hand out chocolates and sweets, but killed them, and for this they had to be exterminated in every possible way. They have already ceased to be people, but have become enemies, with all the consequences. You yourself would not have taken up arms to defend your homeland. And for what they did on our land, no matter the Wehrmacht or the SS, what had to be done with it?
          3. Jin
            Jin 13 September 2013 19: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Den 11
            But Amer and English (so beloved by you) did not fall on the civilians of Dresden? And, of course, --- they were all fascists!


            Oh, poor things! How did you like it? Just bomb yourself? And Dresden, no? Some nonsense ...
      2. dmb
        dmb 12 September 2013 15: 06 New
        +3
        Interestingly, you truly believe in what you wrote, or deliberately provoke it. If the second, then talking to you is pointless. In the first case, many examples can be given, but I will focus only on one. Check out the photos. This is the Wehrmacht. So I was engaged.
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 12 September 2013 15: 23 New
          -6
          Absolutely holy!
      3. Dovmont
        Dovmont 12 September 2013 19: 35 New
        +5
        And who destroyed the 18 million civilians of the Soviet Union? Only the Einsatz group? And the Wehrmacht fought only with the Red Army? This is ridiculous !!!
      4. Jin
        Jin 13 September 2013 11: 40 New
        0
        Quote: Den 11
        Stop throwing rubbish on me! Although I understand that for 50 years they have been hammering the same thing. The Wehrmacht did not do such things! For these purposes there were Einsatz groups! Of whom did they consist, explain?


        The explainer did not grow up, to explain about these creatures to me !!! I clearly explained? Instead of a minus, I bet you already set ... I’ll correct ... I read comments, maybe you are a normal person, but on this thread, I see the exact opposite ...
  10. smile
    smile 12 September 2013 15: 23 New
    +8
    Day 11
    Dan, thanks, I'm glad to know that Zoya sent at least one pass ... to the next world. And she did not cut the throat of the "guy". but to a mad dog that would kill until it was "put to sleep" ... if every tortured Soviet woman could destroy at least one murderer and rapist, the Germans would have run out of the Wehrmacht ... you call it guys ...
  11. Dovmont
    Dovmont 12 September 2013 19: 22 New
    +3
    Well, you give !!! It was a GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR !!! Explain what does this mean? This means that cutting the head of the hated invaders was considered a duty by all who could do this, from a pioneer to a pensioner!
  • Jin
    Jin 12 September 2013 13: 05 New
    +3
    Quote: Den 11
    But nobody wants to know the truth? I don’t know whether to spread it to you or not?


    Let’s what the truth is? Very interesting to know
  • rexby63
    rexby63 12 September 2013 16: 10 New
    -1
    You can only learn the truth if you invent a time machine. Everything else is nothing more than "memories" and, if the intellect allows, "reflections."
  • Rif
    Rif 12 September 2013 10: 48 New
    +1
    here is another movie in the topic - https://vimeo.com/55982441
  • Des10
    Des10 12 September 2013 11: 44 New
    +6
    Quote: Den 11
    But nobody wants to know the truth? I don’t know whether to spread it to you or not?

    Quote: Den 11
    Blah blah blah! Thanks grandfather for the victory! People will be pulled to this branch, lay out! Believe me, justified!


    This should not be done out of respect for people and their memory.
    If you feel like it, write, publish a separate article here and get your personal "thread".
    Eternal memory to those who died for their homeland!
  • tactic
    tactic 12 September 2013 12: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: Prometey
    The article is useful, but ambiguous. In my opinion, the author still in vain posted photos of the executed girl. And at the beginning of the article: On October 8, 1941, Georgy Konstantinovich much later called it the hardest day in the battles for the capital: “On this day, the fascist“ tigers ”marched on us in almost full dress ...”.
    Really Zhukov could write about "tigers" in 1941? Where could they come from there?

    you apparently didn’t quite correctly understand, MUCH LATER this day (October 8) Zhukov called the hardest, much later - it can be much after the war
  • ed65b
    ed65b 12 September 2013 12: 11 New
    +5
    People ignore this provocateur. His grandfather must have been a Nazi foster child, and here he comes off taking revenge for a relative, so to speak.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 12 September 2013 12: 33 New
      -18
      Do not bother me. The people know everything. The truth is, as I said, I will say so! And, by the way, one of my grandfathers was never a "fascist fosterling"! He fought for his Motherland as part of the Hitler Youth! And the affairs of the NSDAP - he was deeply in - ...!
      1. smiths xnumx
        smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 12: 40 New
        -8
        Well then, write me down as "provocateurs", but for such words
        grandfather was a fascist upright
        they beat very painfully and may even be kicked in the face, although I understand that the Internet will write everything off. If there is nothing to object, or the mental part of the brain is absent, no need to hang labels. And if you have something to argue, then mind. What is his provocation, is that Denis expresses thoughts that do not correspond to yours. So refute, prove that he is wrong, unless of course there is something to prove. Dan, Regards! hi
        1. ed65b
          ed65b 12 September 2013 13: 16 New
          +5
          Quote: smiths xnumx
          Well then, write me down as "provocateurs", but for such words
          grandfather was a fascist upright
          they beat very painfully and may even be kicked in the face, although I understand that the Internet will write everything off. If there is nothing to object, or the mental part of the brain is absent, no need to hang labels. And if you have something to argue, then mind. What is his provocation, is that Denis expresses thoughts that do not correspond to yours. So refute, prove that he is wrong, unless of course there is something to prove. Dan, Regards! hi

          you would be more careful with your legs, otherwise they may break. His grandfather fought in Hitler’s agent and what’s not a freak?
          Do not bother me. The people know everything. The truth is, as I said, I will say so! And, by the way, one of my grandfathers was never a "fascist fosterling"! He fought for his Motherland as part of the Hitler Youth! - he was deeply in ..
          1. smiths xnumx
            smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 14: 43 New
            +1
            And, by the way, one of my grandfathers was never a "fascist fosterling"! He fought for his Motherland as part of the Hitler Youth! And the affairs of the NSDAP were deeply in ...
            Well, then what? We will be "reproductive organs" to be measured. And my grandmother (still alive) on the maternal side from Ukraine lived under the occupation. And she said that the German front-line soldiers treated them well. She told me that he came into the house alone, an elderly man and pointed with his fists, here's yours (Stalin), here's ours (Hitler), and we are fools fighting and rubbing our fists with each other. And worst of all, he says, there were local people, policemen and the headman, that when our people returned, he was immediately shot. As for the grandfathers, my grandfather was an urkoy, he was sitting, he redeemed in a penal company, but I worked for 8,5 years as an investigator and imprisoned them mercilessly, which I am proud of, because I did my job. A person does not hide his opinion, and writes what he considers, and the war, like meat, is fried from both sides. Not all Germans were beasts, but they are bastards, they came to our land and they must be exterminated, but this is a war and it is over. Well, about the legs, maybe I put it wrong, sorry. Yours faithfully! hi
            1. smile
              smile 12 September 2013 15: 51 New
              10
              smiths xnumx
              And my grandmother lived near Vilna. and when the city was already under shelling along a growth trench, which was being digged across the street, about 40 Germans drove across the street a German ran (not an SS, not a member of the Einsatzkommand) gently lowering grenades into the trenches ... a dozen grenades ... forty women .... why? but just like that, an ordinary ordinary Wehrmacht soldier didn’t need to see the trench anymore ... granny saw it from a distance of fifty meters — she was sent as the youngest to get water ... she is the only one who survived ... and from those regiments, less than half of those who were driven into Germany alive returned ... raped, mutilated and exhausted ... they shot all the pregnant women ... it was not the SS, not the Einsatzkommand ... so ordinary Germans and commandos ...
              1. smiths xnumx
                smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 15: 56 New
                +3
                Everyone has his own. I say what they told me, I’ll only tell from personal experience ... The worst thing is the eyes of the children when you look at him, and he’s a little dandy, he’s 5-6 years old, and he considers you an enemy and dreams of killing you . It can’t yet, small, but it will grow ... It’s scary. Just Denich, the sick string of most people affected, because among them (Germans), not all animals were either. There were people. All the same, this does not negate the fact that they are enemies, they have come to OUR land and must be destroyed. Volodya, with respect! hi
                1. smile
                  smile 12 September 2013 16: 14 New
                  +1
                  smiths xnumx
                  Yes, I agree ... and in the same situation I was also with child hatred ... and it is clear that not all Germans were like that ... but, firstly, the discussion about this in the comments to such an article .. It’s derogatory ... secondly, unfortunately, there were much more animals, and not only in the SS ... there were most of them ...
                  I respect you and Dan, too, I did not expect that we will argue on such a topic :))) .... better not.
                  1. smiths xnumx
                    smiths xnumx 12 September 2013 16: 18 New
                    +2
                    Okay, guys, let's better discuss weapons, God sees it much better. And then they slipped into politics, so soon we will start dividing into "red", white "," brown. ”Volodya agree. I'm leaving the branch! hi
        2. Vlad 1965
          Vlad 1965 12 September 2013 13: 48 New
          +4
          smiths xnumx
          Den 11-Does this thought provocateur express?
          Just what were Goebbels and his whole propaganda machine, and now the whole West, voicing, belittling the VICTORY of the USSR?
          So for such words the face in the real world is definitely beaten, for only a descendant of a Vlasovite or some other traitorous Judah who fought on the side of Hitler can write such a thing.
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 12 September 2013 14: 06 New
            0
            There were no traitors in the family. He was a grandfather (German) from the Hitler Youth, was captured and came to our North to build infrastructure. Then I.V.kh released (1949) in an early childhood (at the time of commission) historical (though GDR). Still more questions? Softness breeds cruelty!
            1. Vlad 1965
              Vlad 1965 12 September 2013 14: 36 New
              +5
              Day 11
              Mercy for the fallen, the property of the Russians, we don’t fight the beaten, we don’t beat the fallen.
              If you behaved like the Nazis, destroying the Germans as a people, your grandfather from the Hitler Youth, such a poisonous shoot, like you, would hardly have left.
              Hitlers come and go, but Germany and the German people remain, thank God that among the Germans, there is not enough such a pro-Nazi rabble ... They learned a lesson.
              In Germany, while he was serving, he met many Germans of age who were held captive by us, not one, did not hear abuse and insults against the Russians, on the contrary, guilt and regret that they participated in this dirty Nazi venture.
        3. apostrophe
          apostrophe 12 September 2013 15: 03 New
          0
          A little bit is not clear what his thoughts are you talking about?
        4. Jin
          Jin 13 September 2013 19: 21 New
          0
          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          If .... the brain is missing


          Strong! The "mental part of the brain"? It's good that it is absent, because it is this "part", or maybe the tumor, as I understand it, encourages you to write what your friend Denis writes ... Judging by your avatar, you, it seems, are not a nazi ... I certainly understand-friendship! Himself the same and many here I know and communicate. But, in my opinion, there are some topics about which it is better not to write what your friend writes.

          Quote: Kuznetsov 1977
          What is his provocation, is that Denis expresses thoughts that do not correspond to yours.


          Thoughts are a private matter for everyone, but when they are voiced, they cease to be thoughts, passing into the category of: arguments, statements, debates, etc. At the expense of Denis, I will say one thing, on my own behalf, these of his "expressed thoughts" are very fond of sympathy for akkupants, sadists, fascists, for this scum in general ... I'm not saying anything bad about him personally. I speak badly about his comments and this is my opinion! I’m not uryakalka, I understand that not all the "German guys" were animals, many of them themselves stood in the throat, but let's not! No one called them but Russia! They came as enslavers! And we, the Russians, had a limited choice: kill the fascist or die!
      2. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 12 September 2013 14: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: Den 11
        He fought for HIS Homeland as part of the Hitler Agent! And the affairs of the NSDAP, he was deeply -...!

        In the Hitler Youth the most important attention was paid to such topics as racial theory, population policy, German history and political geography. In the foreground were the “Dominant Race” and politics towards Jews, according to history - Hitler’s biography, the history of the Nazi Party, political geography, and the most attention was paid to fascist countries.
        On February 10 of 1943, a decree was issued according to which the formation of the SS Hitler Youth division from conscripts of the 1926 year of birth was allowed (age - 17 years, earlier there was an age qualification for volunteers entering the SS in 23 year). SS Oberführer Fritz Witt of Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, who also provided other personnel for the newly formed units, was appointed division commander. Through the competition, the distinguishing mark of the division was established on which the rune Sovilo (symbol of the Hitler Youth organization) crossed with the master key (sign of the SS division "Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler", which arose from the name of its first commander Josef Dietrich (German Dietrich - master key) )
      3. apostrophe
        apostrophe 12 September 2013 15: 01 New
        +2
        I hope your grandfather did not know who his granddaughters had grown up with.
    2. apostrophe
      apostrophe 12 September 2013 15: 01 New
      0
      If you ignore him, he downloads the topic with his stupid things.
  • malikszh
    malikszh 12 September 2013 12: 28 New
    +2
    Luch listen to a song a great SONG
  • Alexey M
    Alexey M 12 September 2013 13: 37 New
    11
    Your grandfather sucks in Hitlerugonte. Once a girl at age 17 was not afraid to die for her homeland.
  • Tyunik
    Tyunik 12 September 2013 13: 48 New
    +9
    Of these ordinary girls and guys who have become heroes, the Great Victory has developed out of bricks. Eternal memory to all of them! And thanks for the article, more of these are needed to be known and remembered.
  • za VDV
    za VDV 12 September 2013 13: 56 New
    +9
    Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya as an example for posterity. Eternal memory and glory to the heroes. And Den and Kuznetsov obstruction.
    1. smile
      smile 12 September 2013 15: 58 New
      +2
      za VDV
      We don’t need any obstructions — we still lacked the Inquisition — if you disagree with a specific comment — gouging the arguments of a colleague, and arranging collective persecution — it’s not worth it — it is unworthy ... By the way, Dan and Kuznetsov are excellent and clever men ... although it’s here I disagree with them.
  • albanech
    albanech 12 September 2013 15: 43 New
    +2
    There are women heroes, and our task is for the younger generation to always remember and align with real heroes! Eternal memory to the heroes and eternal damnation to the Nazis who died and still live their last hours!
  • akm8226
    akm8226 12 September 2013 15: 58 New
    +5
    Guys - is it really salt in what Zoe did or did not do? The very fact that a girl who was not yet kissed voluntarily went to death and even behaved with dignity before execution - is this fact not worthy of the highest award? Put yourself in her place - could you, knowing that in a couple of minutes you would be hanged, send the whole gang of tries? I believe that very few. And she could. Girl
    But ours.
    Eternal memory of Zoe!
  • Black
    Black 12 September 2013 16: 12 New
    +4
    It is true that they say that untruth will not last long, like dirt, - it will dry up and fall off. That's the truth about Zoe, slandered in hard times, has found its rightful place.

    As for the debate with Dan, each hut has its own rattles, but you shouldn’t be proud and jump out of your pants from the fact that your grandfather was caught as a young Nazi. Not the Red Army started the war, not we came to the German, but the Wehrmacht. There were decent people, there were scumbags, but this does not change the essence, the Germans = invaders. And they raked in many respects through the efforts and feat of millions such as Zoya.
  • ed65b
    ed65b 12 September 2013 16: 32 New
    +4
    Yesterday, I don’t remember which branch the demotivator was on, satisfied German soldiers over a hanged medical officer, a young girl, and such anger took me, and today both this article and the defenders of the non-march community spoke out. here it may have broken.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 12 September 2013 19: 00 New
      -2
      There, a person explained to you that this is fake!
      1. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 13 September 2013 00: 46 New
        +1
        Quote: Den 11
        There, a person explained to you that this is fake!

        The Germans did not recognize women as military personnel and regarded them as partisans. Therefore, according to the German private Bruno Schneider, before sending his company to Russia, their commander, Lieutenant Prince, familiarized the soldier with the order: "To shoot all the women who serve in the Red Army." Numerous facts indicate that this order was applied throughout the war.
        In August 1941, by order of Emil Knol, commander of the field gendarmerie of the 44 Infantry Division, a prisoner of war was shot - a military doctor.
        In the city of Mglinsk, Bryansk region, in 1941, the Germans captured two girls from the sanitary unit and shot them.
        After the defeat of the Red Army in Crimea in May 1942 in the fishing village of Mayak near Kerch, an unknown girl in military uniform was hiding in the house of a resident of Buryachenko. 28 on May 1942 The Germans found her during a search. The girl resisted the Nazis, shouting: “Shoot, you bastards!” I am dying for the Soviet people, for Stalin, and you, monsters, will have dog death! ”The girl was shot in the yard.
        At the end of August 1942 in the village of the Crimean Krasnodar Territory a group of sailors was shot, among them there were several girls in uniform.
        In the village of Starotitarovskaya of the Krasnodar Territory, among the shot prisoners of war, a corpse of a girl in a Red Army uniform was found. She had a passport in the name of Mikhailova Tatyana Alexandrovna, 1923. She was born in the village of Novo-Romanovka.
        In the village of Vorontsovo-Dashkovskoye, Krasnodar Territory, in September 1942, the captured military assistant parasite Glubokova and Yachmenev were brutally tortured.
        5 January 1943 g. Not far from the North Farm were captured 8 Red Army soldiers. Among them is a nurse named Luba. After prolonged torture and bullying, all those captured were shot.
        Division intelligence translator P. Rafes recalls that in the village of Smagleyevka liberated in 1943, 10 km from Kantemirovka, residents told how in 1941, “a wounded lieutenant girl was pulled naked on the road, her face was cut, her hands were cut, her breasts were cut off ... ".
        Often captured women were subjected to violence before death. A soldier from the 11th Panzer Division, Hans Rudhoff, testifies that in the winter of 1942, “... the Russian nurse was lying on the roads. They were shot and thrown onto the road. They lay naked ... On these dead bodies ... obscene inscriptions were written. "
  • Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 12 September 2013 16: 38 New
    +2
    There are a lot of people ready to hit the legs in our country. It is enough to look at how much interest is received by representatives of the current government. The authorities, which have not so far gone in their activities, from the plans of the German fascists in the war with the USSR. These people deep down don’t give a damn about their country their main hut, their own life.
  • Vadim2013
    Vadim2013 12 September 2013 16: 47 New
    +8
    My stepfather Simon Akopovich Grigoryan in the autumn of 1941 at the age of 16 years fought in the division of the people's militia near the city of Tula. The war ended ml. lieutenant. The feat of Zoe Kosmodemyanskoy inspired a merciless struggle with the invaders. Good memory to all young volunteers of June-October 1941
  • dry off
    dry off 12 September 2013 19: 13 New
    +3
    For Den 11
    It's sad, dear, to see your reaction to the article. One can feel behind your comments "the grin of an inveterate Drozdovtsa throwing the pachytosa from corner to corner of his mouth and slowly pulling the sword out of its scabbard." It's a shame.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 12 September 2013 19: 45 New
      +1
      They remembered Mikhail Gordeevich Drozdovsky! For your information, he went through ALL the steps from the military school to the General Staff Academy! And he died in battle (a grave wound), and not like a staff rat!
    2. Dovmont
      Dovmont 12 September 2013 19: 51 New
      +2
      Well, here about the "Drozdovtsy" you here inappropriately mentioned! These were Russian soldiers and officers who fought for their idea, for Holy Russia!
    3. Day 11
      Day 11 12 September 2013 20: 02 New
      +2
      And yet, believe me, my hand will not flinch! There is no doubt about it! That would be any liberal riffraff ...
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 12 September 2013 20: 20 New
        +1
        That's the kind of person I am. Age can be roughly calculated
  • Technologist
    Technologist 12 September 2013 19: 22 New
    +5
    The other day I asked my daughter a seventh grader:
    - They told at school who Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya, Lenya Golikov, Valya Kotik are?
    Guess the answer ... Thank you gentlemen Fursenko, Livanov and the like. And what will be in the head of our grandchildren when we are not brought up in the USSR? Scary guys!
  • vskursk
    vskursk 12 September 2013 21: 19 New
    +1
    The heart is filled with hatred for these c ... sleek burghers. And this is not the SS but the infantry units of the Wehrmacht in which are good family members and caring fathers. It was a pity that our grandfathers didn’t leave stone upon stone from Germany
    1. asadov
      asadov 13 September 2013 15: 56 New
      0
      Yes, I think ours did a good job there. And these burghers need to be reminded more often of the exploits of their ancestors on our land, and then they began to forget about it.
  • Alex 241
    Alex 241 12 September 2013 21: 24 New
    +7
    Zoe had a brother, Alexander. During the war, heroically fought at the front in battles with Nazi evil spirits and Zoe’s younger brother, Alexander Kosmodemyansky. At the age of 18, in October 1943, after graduating from the Ulyanovsk Tank School, he fought as part of the 350th Guards Artillery Regiment of the 43rd Army of the Belorussian Front. He was the first commander of the T-34 medium tank, then the KV heavy tank and, from April 1945, the commander of the SU-152 self-propelled artillery battery. With battles he liberated Belarus, went all over East Prussia. Especially distinguished himself in the capture of the capital of Prussia, the city of Koenigsberg. In battles with the enemy showed courage and courage. He was awarded the Order of the Patriotic War of the 1st and 2nd degrees and the Order of the Red Banner.
    He constantly wrote letters to his mother from the front (she cites them in her book), reported on his life at the front, about his health. He wrote that he was crushing the accursed fascists, avenging Zoe's death and that soon the enemy would be completely defeated and he would return to her alive: "Take care of yourself, mommy!" Mom was looking forward to a letter from her son from the front with a seal on the envelope "Field Mail". But instead of another letter from Sasha on April 24, 1945, Lyubov Timofeevna received a notification from the command of the regiment in which he served, with a sad message about his death in the battle for Konigsberg. The notice described Alexander's glorious military deeds:
    - April 6, 1945 at a self-propelled gun mount, he was the first to force a water channel near Koenigsberg, destroying a large number of Nazis, their battery and ammunition depot;
    - April 8, the first, commanding a battery, burst into the fortified fort of Koenigsberg, destroying a significant number of enemy manpower and equipment;
    - On April 13, in the battles for the village northwest of Koenigsberg, he died from an exploding enemy shell.
    Then it was reported that "Senior Lieutenant Alexander Anatolyevich Kosmodemyansky, dear to all of us, died as a real Hero, honestly defending the Motherland and being a worthy brother of his sister Zoya. We are proud of him."
    By a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of June 29, 1945 for heroism in the fight against Nazi invaders, Kosmodemyansky, Alexander Anatolyevich, was posthumously awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv 12 September 2013 22: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: Alex 241
      Lyubov Timofeevna received a notice from the command of the regiment,

      Poor Mother ...
  • George
    George 12 September 2013 23: 27 New
    +3
    Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya is the heroine.
    1. Jin
      Jin 13 September 2013 19: 30 New
      +1
      Quote: GEORGE
      Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya is the heroine.


      Eternal memory, sorry for the girl ... sad
  • Pehmore
    Pehmore 14 October 2013 11: 29 New
    0
    How many people have so many opinions, but I’m not sure that many peasants who wrote their libel here would do the same. Did you understand at her age a lot about her life purpose, the girl defeated death, she communicates with us, only she can’t answer everyone obscurantists who humiliate her feat.
  • umeletz
    umeletz 20 November 2013 14: 56 New
    0
    It is terrible and disgusting to read the statements of individual authors. He fought "for his Motherland" in the Hitler Youth .... And everyone else is also good. It turned out like in a stupid anecdote. Once a Russian partisan and a fascist met and argued over who was right in this war. Is it funny? I don’t. How funny is the canonization of a Komsomol member. In MY childhood and in MY life, Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya is a HERO, and the Hitler Youth is under ... approx. It's the opposite in Dan's life, and somehow I'm sure I'm right.