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As a priority, further development of the aerospace defense system based on the aerospace defense troops


The need to counter threats to the military security of our country in the aerospace sphere necessitates the creation of aerospace defense (WKO) of the Russian Federation. The concept of the aerospace defense of the Russian Federation was approved by decree of the President of Russia in 2006. In accordance with it, the East Kazakhstan region, being an integral part of the defense of the state, is a system of political, economic, military, military-technical, legal and other measures for the preparation and conduct of hostilities in aerospace.

The basis of the aerospace defense should be a complex of state-wide and military measures, as well as combat actions of multiple (heterogeneous) groupings of troops (forces) carried out in a common warfare system under unified leadership, according to a single plan and plan in order to protect the Russian Federation and its allies from attack from air and from space.

Which way to build the aerospace defense

The practical implementation of the provisions of the concept led to the creation in 2011 of a new kind of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation - the Aerospace Defense Forces. However, this is only the first step towards the integration of the forces and means of air defense and missile defense and the formation of a unified system of aerospace defense of the country.

A matter of national importance

What to do next, on what path to continue the construction of aerospace defense and its material basis - the Air Force of the East Kazakhstan region? To answer this very difficult question, one should analyze the current organization of the aerospace defense of Russia.

Today the general leadership of the country's aerospace defense is carried out by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, and the responsibility for organizing the aerospace defense, including air defense, is entrusted to the commander of the aerospace defense troops. At the same time, the basic principles for the construction of the aerospace defense system are defined

  • joint responsibility for organizing and conducting armed struggle against all forces and means of an enemy aerospace attack in the entire range of altitudes and speeds over the entire territory of the Russian Federation;
  • complex use of all forces capable of solving the tasks of combating the forces and means of an aerospace attack of the enemy.

    The above principles are currently not fully implemented. By the normative legal acts of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff, the responsibility of the commander of the EKR Troops for air defense is determined only for peacetime. For the period of the immediate threat of aggression and wartime, the responsibility and authority of the military control bodies for aerospace and air defense are not clearly established. In the existing structure of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, there is no single authority for the management of all troops (forces) solving aerospace defense tasks during preparation and during the conduct of hostilities. The command of the EKR Troops today cannot completely solve these tasks by virtue of its status.

    In addition, most of the air defense forces are part of military districts (commanders of the Air Force and Air Defense) and the commander-in-chief of the Air Force, responsible for the air defense of the country, is responsible for their construction and development. In essence, responsibility for organizing and conducting combat against the forces and means of an aerospace attack of the enemy is now divided between the commander of the EKO and the commanders of military districts.

    Organizational changes in the air defense system at the operational-tactical level did not justify themselves during the transition in 2009 from the corps and division structures of air defense units to the brigade structure. The reduction in the number and job categories of the personnel of the command and control units of these formations negatively affected the quality of command of the subordinate troops. Withdrawal from the fighter brigades aviation caused the problem of the allocation of part of the aviation forces to solve air defense problems. At the same time, difficulties arose in the management of aviation, its interaction with air defense systems and the provision of flight safety in the zones of destruction of anti-aircraft missile systems.

    Over the past year, the problems of building an aerospace defense system and EKR Troops have constantly been in the field of view of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, leading research organizations and universities dealing with this issue. A detailed consideration of these problems allowed us to form two main approaches to their solution. The first is to create a new type of Armed Forces - the Aerospace Forces (VKS), the second is to further build the aerospace defense system based on the development of the EKR Troops.

    By aerospace forces is understood the type of the Armed Forces, created on the basis of the existing Air Force. It is proposed to include in the composition of the Armed Forces the Armed Forces along with the air force unions of the forces and means of the EKR and Strategic Rocket Forces. It is assumed that the main command of the VKS will be the administrative and support body, and for the operational management of the troops (forces) of the VKO within the structure of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces it is proposed to create a special body - the command of the VKO (in the long term, aerospace command). The issue of including the Strategic Missile Forces in the videoconferencing system is not the topic of discussion in this article. We only note that due to the special importance of the Strategic Missile Forces and the specificity of the tasks they are solving, these troops, we believe, should be left in their current status (branch of the Armed Forces).

    The development of EKR Troops means the inclusion of four Air Force and Air Defense Commands, which are now administratively part of the Air Force and operational subordinate to military district commanders, the creation of Air Force (OSN) brigades and the transfer of air defense units ( IN TO). In order to control the transferred and newly formed units, it is proposed to create an EKR command in strategic areas with direct subordination to their commander of the EKR Troops. At the same time, the command of the Troops of the East Kazakhstan region will remain an administrative and operational control body.

    Optimally: integration of missile defense and air defense systems

    Let us try to conduct a system analysis and give a comparative assessment of the above approaches to the creation of the East Kazakhstan Oblast system and the organizational development of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the following factors:

  • development of aerospace attack weapons and the need to counter the threat of an aerospace attack;
  • the integration of air defense and missile defense forces and equipment within the framework of a unified EKR system;
  • the integrated use of forces and means that are capable of dealing with the means of aerospace attack;
  • personal responsibility for the construction and use of aerospace defense forces and facilities;
  • the sphere of warfare and the specific structure of the Armed Forces;
  • historical experience in building Air Defense Forces;
  • the results of scientific research of the variants of the organizational structure of the troops (forces) solving the problems of aerospace defense.

    Analysis of the development trends of aerospace attack systems and systems allows expecting a potential enemy to emerge in the near future a fundamentally new class of manned and unmanned military aircraft capable of operating at speeds from 5 to 25M and in the height range of 30 – 120 kilometers weakly controlled by existing means of EKR. Intensive work is underway to create aerospace planes. In terms of the scale of the possible use of these tools and the tasks to be solved, they will relate to arms strategic purpose. Moreover, a potential enemy already has sea and airborne cruise missiles with a range of up to 2500 – 3000 kilometers. They have high accuracy of shooting, and in the onboard control systems of sea-based cruise missiles of the latest generations there are elements of artificial intelligence. According to their capabilities, such cruise missiles, even in ordinary equipment, can be classified as strategic weapons.

    Under the conditions of the new threats presented above, the fulfillment of aerospace defense tasks by independently operating RKO and air defense systems will lead to uncertainty in assessing the aerospace situation at strategic and regional levels, reducing the effectiveness of deterring aggression and repelling such attacks.

    Therefore, the most rational ways of responding to new threats is a comprehensive build-up of the combat capabilities of means and systems of missile defense and air defense systems and their integration within the framework of a unified system of aerospace defense.

    One of the most important tasks of integrating air-missile defense and air defense systems is to obtain information about the beginning of aggression in aerospace from the moment of the launch (take-off) of SVKN and their maintenance before entering the active media coverage areas. These tasks should be performed by space assets and high-potential ground-based missile radar and reconnaissance systems together with ground-based, airborne, and in the long run space defense systems. The processed information at command and control centers of the aerospace defense will make it possible to assess the aerospace situation in a timely manner and with high confidence to generate warning signals about the onset of aggression in aerospace, to distribute information to air defense brigades (AUC) to repel the strikes of SVKN based on the organization of layered defense. The implementation of the integration of the missile defense and air defense systems will allow to perform tasks as part of a single circuit of the centralized combat control of the missile defense and air defense systems within the framework of the aerospace defense in the real-time SVKN flight. Thus, the conditions will be created for coordinated operational buildup and distribution of efforts of associations and connections of the aerospace defense over the entire territory of the country in the course of preparation and repelling the attacks of all types of SVKN.

    Unified management, leadership and responsibility

    Next, we will dwell on the problem of implementing one of the most important principles for building an aerospace defense system - the integrated use of all forces capable of solving the tasks of combating the forces and means of an aerospace attack of the enemy.

    The main system-making element is a unified system of command and control of troops and aerospace defense forces of the types and branches of troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, while respecting the principle of unified leadership and responsibility for organizing and conducting combat with all forces and means of aerospace attack of the enemy throughout the country.

    At the strategic level, the command of the Armed Forces armies of the East Kazakhstan region can become the single control body of such a system when delegating to it the General Staff of certain powers. Thus, the fulfillment of the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 2012 on assigning personal responsibility for the organization of aerospace defense to the Commander of the East Kazakhstani Army will be fully ensured.

    The command of the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan region by definition will more successfully accomplish such important tasks as the development of a unified plan and plan for the construction of aerospace defense, the equipping of armed forces forces, the creation (improvement) of forces and means of aerospace defense, taking into account the expected military threats, the implementation of a single military technology policy in the field of aerospace defense.

    To ensure the unity of command and control of troops and forces of the aerospace defense at the operational (operational-strategic) level, it is necessary to create zones of aerospace defense. Zones should be divided into districts of East Kazakhstan. Total zones of the East Kazakhstan region can be formed five: Moscow, Western, Southern, Central and Eastern. They should be created on the basis of operational commands of the East Kazakhstan Region. The number of EKO regions should correspond to the number of air defense connections (VKO). Zones, districts of the aerospace defense are obliged to have unified management bodies when delegating to them the authority for the operational management of all troops and air defense forces (ASD) allocated to the composition of zones and areas.

    Zones and areas of the aerospace defense should not be considered as certain ossified structures created for all times. When deploying fronts (combined-arms armies), depending on the specific conditions and the expected nature of military actions, in the area of ​​their responsibility front-line zones (army areas) of air defense can be created, within whose boundaries general and operational guidance will be exercised by front-line commanders (armies).

    When forming the aerospace forces, personal responsibility for the creation and development of the aerospace defense system will be assigned to the commander-in-chief of the VKS. However, a too wide range of tasks assigned to it (the development of aerospace defense, aviation, space systems) will inevitably lead to a significant complication of their solution.

    In the case of implementation of this approach, responsibility for solving the tasks of the aerospace defense in peacetime (carrying combat duty in the aerospace defense) will be de facto distributed between the commander-in-chief of the VKS and the commanders of military districts.

    In addition, the traditionally specific and generic structure of the Armed Forces was determined by the mastered areas of warfare — land, sea, and airspace. In this case, a great misconception is the mixing of this concept with the physical environment (temporary stay). So, the projectile fired from a cannon flies through the air. But air is only a temporary physical environment of the projectile. The target for the projectile is on the ground. And that is why artillery is part of the Ground Forces. The same statement fully applies to the Air Force, for which the airspace is not a sphere of warfare, but only a temporary environment for the stay of aircraft. The main objectives for the Air Force are on the ground or on the water, and the actions of the aircraft in the air on self-defense are only auxiliary, providing character.

    Combining in one form of the Armed Forces - VKS shock (aviation) and defensive (forces and means of aerospace defense) components is an artificial symbiosis and will not lead to an increase in capabilities to combat the aerospace enemy. Each of these components has its own sphere of warfare, solves its tasks, influences its objects, uses its forms and methods of struggle. Different and specific management of shock and defensive forces. In this regard, the only specialized structure of the Armed Forces, for which the area of ​​warfare is aerospace, may be the East Kazakhstani Army.

    We believe that it will be appropriate to refer to recent history. After the creation of the NATO bloc in April 1949, the general political and military tension in Europe and the world as a whole increased. At the beginning of the 50's, the intensity and scale of the provocative and intelligence operations of NATO aviation in the airspace of the USSR sharply increased. Moreover, the air defense system existing at that time was unable to effectively counteract air intruders who had already reached the areas of Leningrad, Minsk, and Kiev. Recall that in the border zone the responsibility for air defense was assigned to the military districts, and in the internal territory 12 air defense areas were organized as part of the country's air defense forces.

    Considering the rapid development of military aviation, a significant increase in its combat capabilities, as well as the ever-increasing violations of the airspace of the USSR, the military-political leadership of the country through trial and error concluded that it was necessary to create a powerful structure in the Armed Forces that would complex tasks of the air defense of the country. So, in May 1954, the formation of a new type of the USSR Armed Forces - the Air Defense Forces of the country - began.

    Scientifically, the assessment of options for the organizational structure of the aerospace defense system is a complex unstructured problem, the solution of which using strictly formal methods is difficult. This is primarily due to the fact that the activities of the military administration of the strategic and operational units are practically non-formalizable.

    In the course of the research, such assessments were made. They used the hierarchy analysis method (Saaty), which has found wide application for solving problems of this class. A comparative assessment of the variants of the organizational structure of troops (forces) solving the problems of aerospace defense (within the framework of a videoconferencing or armed forces unit) was carried out according to several of the most significant indicators: ensuring personal responsibility for the creation and development of the aerospace defense system; ensuring the development of a unified plan and plan for the construction of aerospace defense equipment, equipping the troops of the VVST ensuring the unity of direct planning for the use of troops and forces; ensuring effective operational management of all forces and means that solve the tasks of the aerospace defense; optimization of controls and a number of others (total 16 indicators).

    According to the generalized priority indicator, the preference of variants is estimated as 1,22 – 1,25 (second variant) to 1 (first variant).

    The aforementioned approaches to the creation of the system of the aerospace defense of the Russian Federation and the development of the armed forces of the aerospace defense, the main tasks of the construction of the aerospace defense system and ways to solve them, the use of troops (forces) of the aerospace defense in the last year have been reviewed and thoroughly analyzed during the 38 military science conference of the SIC Air Defense ) 4 of the Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, 42 of the Military Scientific Conference of the Military Academy of the East Kazakhstan Region, the All-Army Military Research Conference of the Military Academy of the East Kazakhstan Oblast, which were attended by representatives of the staff of the East Kazakhstan region and the use of troops (forces) of the East Kazakhstan region, representatives of all over but the industrial complex. The results of the conferences showed that we are on the right track.

    To summarize

    The above arguments and arguments give reason to consider as a priority direction the further development of the aerospace defense system based on the aerospace defense troops.

    It is necessary to entrust the commander of the Armed Forces armies with personal responsibility for organizing and conducting armed struggle with all the forces and means of an aerospace attack of the enemy over the entire territory of the Russian Federation.

    The main functions of the command of the Armed Forces armies should be:

  • organization and planning of the country's aerospace defense;
  • direct control of troops in the conduct of actions in the aerospace sphere;
  • organizing events to improve the aerospace defense system;
  • the formation of a unified military-technical policy in the field of aerospace defense;
  • organizing the development of proposals for improving the regulatory framework in the field of aerospace defense;
  • management of research work to justify the directions of construction of the aerospace defense system, the development of weapons and military equipment;
  • development of methods and forms of combat use of troops.

    The development of the East Kazakhstani Troops and the empowerment of the East Coastal Command command functions of administrative and operational management will optimize the organizational structure of troops (forces) solving the task of fighting the SVKN and ensure maximum effectiveness in countering potential military threats of the Russian Federation from aerospace at present and in the future.
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    1. Lech from ZATULINKI
      Lech from ZATULINKI 11 September 2013 16: 08 New
      +3
      Whether our economy will attract East Kazakhstan oblast is very expensive and costly - but extremely archival.
      After all, the future belongs to the space forces and, in the long term, of war, will begin from BLOWS from the orbit of the Earth.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 11 September 2013 16: 22 New
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        Like someone or not, but the arms race will move into space! And we must prepare for this in advance.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 11 September 2013 23: 30 New
          +3
          Quote: xetai9977
          Like someone or not, but the arms race will move into space! And you need to prepare for this in advance

          This, sorry, and the hedgehog is clear! The question is that the country's budget is not rubber, especially the country of the Russian Federation, with adverse climatic conditions! Therefore, one must choose: either Abramoich’s yachts and foreign football clubs, and the Olympic with the World Cup - or VKS, rearmament of the army and the development of industry (instead of stadiums). No other way!
      2. Kibalchish
        Kibalchish 11 September 2013 19: 08 New
        -3
        The defense of the whole country-will not pull naturally. But the defense of Moscow, as a decision-making center, must be created without fail, given the favorable economic situation.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 11 September 2013 23: 32 New
          +4
          Quote: Kibalchish
          But the defense of Moscow as a decision center

          Are you sure that decisions are made in Moscow that are favorable for Russia and the Russian People?
          1. Aney
            Aney 12 September 2013 11: 41 New
            +1
            VERY GOOD QUESTION!
      3. Crocodile
        Crocodile 11 September 2013 20: 37 New
        0
        It is necessary at the diplomatic level, through international treaties, to try to prevent the withdrawal of weapons into near-earth orbits. Otherwise, we get an arms race in a new sphere, and not the fact that we can pull it! On the other hand, to continue to develop surveillance systems that de facto already exist in orbit, and which no one will abandon.
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov 11 September 2013 23: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: Crocodile
          It is necessary at the diplomatic level, through international treaties, to try to prevent the withdrawal of weapons into near-earth orbits.

          Do you yourself believe in this opportunity? To be honest!
          Quote: Crocodile
          Otherwise, we get an arms race in a new sphere, and not the fact that we can pull it!

          1. Nobody has canceled the arms race!
          2. Of course we can’t pull it, because now the stub of the USSR (RF) is pulling not only the arms race, but also the thieving government, and domestic oligarchs, and foreign investors!
          Quote: Crocodile
          On the other hand, continue to develop surveillance systems,


          What are surveillance systems without destruction systems? !!
          1. Renat
            Renat 12 September 2013 11: 41 New
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            Whatever the economic situation in the country, it is necessary to develop all branches of defense. We miss one thing, the rest, no matter how they are developed, may be useless. A chain, no matter how strong it is, is not stronger than its weakest link.
    2. slavik_gross
      slavik_gross 11 September 2013 16: 12 New
      +1
      If they do not steal, then maybe we will build !!!
    3. Nitup
      Nitup 11 September 2013 16: 32 New
      +1
      Explain who is in the know, there is an aerospace defense and there are anti-aircraft missile forces of the Air Force. What is the difference in their purpose and armament.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 11 September 2013 18: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: Nitup
        Explain who is in the know, there is an aerospace defense and there are anti-aircraft missile forces of the Air Force. What is the difference in their purpose and armament.

        Separation of spheres of influence.
        East Kazakhstan region - everything above 100km, i.e. can rotate in orbit.
        SAM - usually up to 30km (where airplanes can fly).
        Although some SAM missiles can reach higher. At the same time, they were given the task of fighting ballistic missiles (up to RSD)
        And the ABM forces can operate in two areas - the atmosphere and in space.
        So, really, you need to understand and competently build a defense ...
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 11 September 2013 20: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Rus2012
          Separation of spheres of influence.
          East Kazakhstan region - everything above 100km, i.e. can rotate in orbit.
          SAM - usually up to 30km (where airplanes can fly).

          And the weapons are one and the same: what’s there, what’s there, based on the data of the website of the Ministry of Defense, the Shell, S-300 and S-400
          1. Rus2012
            Rus2012 11 September 2013 21: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: Nitup
            C-400

            ... C-400 - this is when the doubt and more or less optimization has begun.
            At the same time, Mig-31D - it can solve anti-satellite tasks. :)
            Destruction Pace - 24 targets in 36 hours. 3,14 GPS and space reconnaissance ... This is the performance of the 1 complex. And it was supposed - 3

            So enough for everyone
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 11 September 2013 22: 55 New
              +2
              I’ll fix it a bit - the MIG31 anti-satellite missiles were intended to destroy low-orbit satellites, and the global positioning system satellites were high-orbit ones, they are in orbits about 20000 km away, they didn’t reach anti-satellite missiles ...
    4. Serg 122
      Serg 122 11 September 2013 16: 33 New
      +2
      Of course the right thing! And as for the thieves, it would be far without them ... sad
    5. nikcris
      nikcris 11 September 2013 16: 44 New
      0
      Uh-huh ... NefiK was a moronic agreement to sign. In order to then balabolit that "Salutes" were originally conceived as stations for studying the behavior of worms and other fruit flies in zero gravity. repeat
    6. sashka
      sashka 11 September 2013 16: 45 New
      +7
      God forbid Dimon take it ..
      1. Garrin
        Garrin 11 September 2013 18: 28 New
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        Quote: Sasha
        God forbid Dimon take it ..

        So what? If this is taken, then both the Yankees and the Chinese satellite groups may collapse ... wassat
    7. dizelniy
      dizelniy 11 September 2013 17: 03 New
      -3
      East Kazakhstan, in the authors' view, is a chimera designed to pump money and general ranks to the right people. The Air Force will be destroyed unambiguously (IA), this chimera can not solve practically any military tasks except for warning, there are no technical or economic opportunities, but there is an itch.
    8. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 11 September 2013 18: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: dizelniy
      East Kazakhstan, in the authors' view, is a chimera designed to pump money and general ranks to the right people. The Air Force will be destroyed unambiguously (IA), this chimera can not solve practically any military tasks except for warning, there are no technical or economic opportunities, but there is an itch.

      I did not notice the desire of the authors for pumping (where). Means, of course, are needed in order to be able to solve the practical problems of defense. It is necessary to prepare for them now that they will arise no doubt. About this by the way and the article says. And at the tactical level, the Air Force will not go anywhere. According to the plan, as is known, for example, about 200 T-50 planes were announced to be accepted for service.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 11 September 2013 18: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Yuri Ya.
        I did not notice the desire of the authors for pumping (where).

        I, too...
        It’s clear that you need to figure it out first. With the threats that we have against them for today. And how best to build a competent defense.
        In my humble opinion, they are doing the right thing - at first it is hot to argue, after listening to all the arguments, then to model.
        As a result, the necessary scheme will be built -
        -aviation, its tasks
        -ZRK
        -Missile defense (anti-ballistic missile defense)
        - actions in orbit and on the earth,
        and how to manage it all ...
      2. Nitup
        Nitup 11 September 2013 20: 20 New
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        Quote: Yuri Ya.
        According to the plan, as is known, for example, about 200 T-50 planes were announced to be accepted for service.

        What year is it up to?
    9. nikcris
      nikcris 11 September 2013 18: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: dizelniy
      East Kazakhstan, in the authors' view, is a chimera designed to pump money and general ranks to the right people. The Air Force will be destroyed unambiguously (IA), this chimera can not solve practically any military tasks except for warning, there are no technical or economic opportunities, but there is an itch.

      For some reason, Khrushchev had opportunities. Brezhnev had, but he himself refused them. Gorbach had, bypassing all the agreements.
      Sounds like a conspiracy hi
      In general, it is only a matter of time to put a couple or two thousand core-barons into space - all the same, the Strategic Missile Forces shoot through it. The stupid contract interferes. But the Americans (on this site they cannot be named more correctly) bowed and left the missile defense. Everyone swallowed saliva and took it for granted. But the ABM Treaty indistinctly coincided with the launch of Zenit. Why were the conquerors of the Indians so scared?
    10. shitovmg
      shitovmg 11 September 2013 18: 23 New
      +1
      I did not appreciate the article. The problem is crucial, but ... a lot of words.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 11 September 2013 19: 06 New
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        Quote: shitovmg
        I did not appreciate the article. The problem is crucial, but ... a lot of words.


        To evaluate, you need to be in the subject. Because everything is vocal, therefore common words. Although behind every word there are mountains of arguments and heated debate in closed rooms with the participation of all interested.
        One thing is already pleasing - a scientific approach is being used, and if so, the place for voluntary decisions is reduced ...
    11. horoh
      horoh 11 September 2013 18: 48 New
      +2
      The business is necessary, important and timely. I hope everything works out !!!
    12. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 11 September 2013 19: 09 New
      +1
      The development of the East Kazakhstani Troops and the empowerment of the East Coastal Command command functions of administrative and operational management will optimize the organizational structure of troops (forces) solving the task of fighting the SVKN and ensure maximum effectiveness in countering potential military threats of the Russian Federation from aerospace at present and in the future.

      All this, of course, is necessary and relevant, but first we need to put things in order in financing defense programs and establish control over the use of budget funds.
      It's time to stop supplying the Yankees with rocket engines and stop supplying them with information about our space and defense programs and our achievements. They do not even think to share with us, they have all sorts of "venniks" with laws there.
      In 1975, I asked a KGB officer - why do we have classified satellite images? we cannot interfere with filming from space - he replied - why would we give the enemy ready information? let them spend their money and take it off themselves.
    13. pifon
      pifon 11 September 2013 19: 28 New
      +3
      It is not necessary to wisdom cunningly (like the authors). It was all there. Who knows - he won't let you lie! Suffice it to recall ("unknown troops of a vanished country" - the Troops of the RKO). Everything worked as it should. And with a modern element base, the prospects open very much even ... (the last example with the detection of launches from Middle-earth! It's a pity that the Guru has almost all died ... (blessed memory of them). And there are really a lot of words in the article, yes, then ... The authors probably served as political officers (or worked ;-))
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 11 September 2013 20: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: pifon
        It is not necessary to wisdom cunningly (like the authors). It was all there. Who knows - he won't let you lie! Suffice it to recall ("unknown troops of a vanished country" - the Troops of the RKO). Everything worked as it should. And with a modern element base, the prospects open very much even ... (the last example with the detection of launches from Middle-earth! It's a pity that the Guru has almost all died ... (blessed memory of them). And there are really a lot of words in the article, yes, then ... The authors probably served as political officers (or worked ;-))

        To be a patriot of your country and be able to express your thoughts, you do not need to be a political officer.
        The article is actually about what authors think the structure of aerospace defense in the most general sense. I am sure that professionals who do this specifically have enough ideas.
        I do not put the article neither + nor - because I am not competent in this matter.
      2. konvalval
        konvalval 11 September 2013 21: 14 New
        0
        Well what are you. This is not their mind.
    14. Nitup
      Nitup 11 September 2013 20: 32 New
      0
      One thing interests me: it is clear that at present and in the near future, if you have to defend yourself from an aerospace attack, it’s only from the United States. Well, let’s say we get them off, and then what? Purely hypothetically: you need to launch missile strikes in the USA, land on their territory, etc. For this, you need a fleet capable of delivering such an amount of troops and equipment to their island in order to win the war. Or am I misunderstanding something?
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 11 September 2013 21: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Nitup
        land on their territory

        This, as it seems to me, has never been thought by our General Staff. If only to Alaska and then only until the 1953 year ...

        Let the Chinese land, there are many. To clear the path - we will help :)
        1. Nitup
          Nitup 11 September 2013 22: 10 New
          0
          Quote: Rus2012
          Quote: Nitup
          land on their territory

          This, as it seems to me, has never been thought by our General Staff. If only to Alaska and then only until the 1953 year ...

          Let the Chinese land, there are many. To clear the path - we will help :)

          And then China, if they attack us? :)
          To win the war, it will be necessary to complete it on their territory, but without landing there is no way ...
    15. a.hamster55
      a.hamster55 11 September 2013 20: 47 New
      +3
      All with a holiday, the day of the cut-glass! On 11 September, 1943 of the year in Gus-Khrustalny the first Soviet faceted glass was produced. There was a terrible WAR, but they did not forget about the glasses - BECAUSE WE ARE UNBEATABLE!
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 11 September 2013 21: 02 New
        +1
        Happy Holidays, I heard that the design of the faceted glass was developed by the sculptor Mukhina. "Worker and Collective Farm Woman" is also her creation. I don't even know which is more magnificent fellow
      2. studentmati
        studentmati 11 September 2013 22: 21 New
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        Quote: a.hamster55
        All with a holiday, the day of the cut-glass! On 11 September, 1943 of the year in Gus-Khrustalny the first Soviet faceted glass was produced. There was a terrible WAR, but they did not forget about the glasses - BECAUSE WE ARE UNBEATABLE!


        Happy Holidays! drinks
    16. nikcris
      nikcris 11 September 2013 21: 00 New
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      Quote: Corsair5912
      The development of the East Kazakhstani Troops and the empowerment of the East Coastal Command command functions of administrative and operational management will optimize the organizational structure of troops (forces) solving the task of fighting the SVKN and ensure maximum effectiveness in countering potential military threats of the Russian Federation from aerospace at present and in the future.

      All this, of course, is necessary and relevant, but first we need to put things in order in financing defense programs and establish control over the use of budget funds.
      It's time to stop supplying the Yankees with rocket engines and stop supplying them with information about our space and defense programs and our achievements. They do not even think to share with us, they have all sorts of "venniks" with laws there.
      In 1975, I asked a KGB officer - why do we have classified satellite images? we cannot interfere with filming from space - he replied - why would we give the enemy ready information? let them spend their money and take it off themselves.

      In 1975, I asked a KGB officer - why do we have classified satellite images?
      No blah blah about the terrible KGB. You just don't know. I tore the cable for them, being a Special Stroyer. They roared like cows, jackals, other fagots, WHEN I paid them money in CASH. But he tore up the Falcon nearby, and they restored it at night. And no gu-gu.
      This ... If anyone thinks I'm a stupid person without a card. The funny thing is that everything was classified. The signalman fighters silently drown their ushlepok in the mud (kitsch was then), and the KGB officers come running like today's Emergencies Ministry.
    17. Andrey Peter
      Andrey Peter 11 September 2013 22: 14 New
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      I didn’t even read an article or comments. This topic is not for general discussion. And now there are experts and they will criticize and comment on everything wassat
    18. pifon
      pifon 11 September 2013 22: 20 New
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      Quote: Corsair5912
      for it is not competent in this matter

      My dear, they would quote what they were competent about (for example, political leaders)!
      But I am competent, I can assure you! Therefore, I consider the article to be a pseudo-wise attempt by the authors to portray some kind of "deep" knowledge in this area. However, I cannot put a minus (deliberately) - because the interest shown by readers after reading the philosophizing of the authors, I hope will lead to attempts to find out really useful, and most importantly, truthful information in this direction. After that, Mona and prank on the topic "how can we equip the protection and defense of the upper sky and near space from the foe" ...
    19. patriot2
      patriot2 11 September 2013 22: 32 New
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      The article is serious and written, apparently, by professionals in the field of aerospace defense.
      For East Kazakhstan, the future of the Armed Forces of Russia. And, finally, the time has come, using the experience gained during the USSR to develop the country's aerospace defense, taking into account the existing dangers from mills having nuclear weapons, other types of weapons of mass destruction and precision weapons, as well as their aerospace carriers; in addition, we have a constant asteroid-meteorite danger for the entire planet Earth and who knows ... maybe not lucky, as in Chelyabinsk. The development of East Kazakhstan oblast is, first of all: new scientific and technical developments, new technologies and bringing our country to a new level of progress - new jobs for scientists, engineers, workers and positions for military personnel.
    20. Andrey Peter
      Andrey Peter 11 September 2013 22: 46 New
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      Guys, I can repeat myself, but there are topics where those who are not knowledgeable keep silent, and those who can not skzzat can not. bully
    21. VadimSt
      VadimSt 11 September 2013 22: 58 New
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      Quote: patriot2
      The article is serious and written, apparently, by professionals in the field of aerospace defense.

      Kirill Makarov - Doctor of Military Sciences, Associate Professor, Deputy Commander of the Air Defense Forces for Air Defense, Major General. Prior to his appointment (March 1 2013), he led the air defense and aviation forces of the Western Military District.
      Sergei Yagolnikov - Honored Scientist of the Russian Federation, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, Director of the Federal State Institution "2 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation", Major General of the Reserve.
    22. patriot2
      patriot2 11 September 2013 23: 14 New
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      Quote: VadimSt
      Kirill Makarov - Doctor of Military Sciences, Associate Professor, Deputy Commander of the Air Defense Forces for Air Defense, Major General. Prior to his appointment (March 1 2013), he led the air defense and aviation forces of the Western Military District.
      Sergei Yagolnikov - Honored Scientist of the Russian Federation, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, Director of the Federal State Institution "2 Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation", Major General of the Reserve.

      Thank you, I think that it will be useful for some elders to know!
    23. rpek32
      rpek32 12 September 2013 00: 55 New
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      The pacifist’s point of view: it is forbidden for everyone in the world (on a planetary scale) to use space as a bridgehead for defensive / offensive weapons, and to use it only for scientific research purposes.
    24. avkeys
      avkeys 12 September 2013 03: 50 New
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      I want to say one thing, I have 2 higher technical education, who needs me in MY COUNTRY?
    25. npu3pak
      npu3pak 12 September 2013 05: 41 New
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      this is for what purpose such an aerospace defense? What kind of war is being considered? A large-scale conflict is unlikely (but even if it does start, the Russian Federation is not able to resist the coalition - it will inevitably grow into a nuclear missile in a few days, or even hours). There is no longer an aerospace defense in the form as it is described in the article, but rather an SPRN is needed =)
      And for local conflicts with the natives the existing air defense forces and means are abundant. OShS of course not really, it is necessary to carry out optimization.
    26. patriot2
      patriot2 12 September 2013 15: 38 New
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      Quote: rpek32
      The pacifist’s point of view: prohibit everyone on a peaceful (planetary) basis from using space as a bridgehead for defensive / offensive weapons, and only use it for research purposes.

      Well, Chelyabinsk and Tunguska meteorites can be included in your pacifism, besides there are organizations such as al-Qaeda that without hesitation will blow up WMDs that they’ll capture, including nuclear weapons with the help of airplanes, missiles and everything that they can use . Here the end justifies the means. And that we will wait for this hoping for the Almighty!
      Then amen !!!
    27. scientist
      scientist 15 September 2013 20: 40 New
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      In military science, as in other sciences, proof of the correctness of the theory is practice. Something I didn’t hear in order to conduct exercises in practice, where the aerospace defense system would prove high efficiency. Though I am for aerospace defense!, if only for the purpose of removing air defense from subordination of the air force and further developing air defense as a type of armed forces of aerospace defense. But practice shows that when a good idea comes to implementation it turns out like in a proverb "we wanted the best, but it turned out as always". One disgraced professor from the Tver Academy who fought for decades against combining air defense and the air force and proved the need for aerospace defense wrote (forgot the name) that, first of all, to justify the structure, you need to make high-quality and temporary assessments on the fundamental possibility of completing the tasks you want would this structure or system perform. This is necessary, first of all, from the considerations of the advance construction of the aerospace defense system and the transience of aerospace combat.
      Now the priority should be the elimination of weak links in the air defense system and future aerospace defense, this: the lack of effective and sufficient means of electronic, electronic intelligence and recognition capable of functioning in the conditions of interference and the use of PRLR, there has long been a need to integrate fire weapons and electronic warfare systems, United in a single defense system of objects at a tactical level. In addition, with the closure of MNIIPA, there was a serious problem with the further development of air defense control systems and, moreover, air defense control systems.