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If tomorrow the war

I am an avid optimist, and I usually answer negatively to the question “Will there be a war?” But these days I will not vouch. Long time so did not smell of gunpowder.


This is felt in Washington, in Tel Aviv, in Damascus and in Moscow. Russian and US warships are facing each other, rockets are falling in Beirut, Damascus is on fire, and there is alarm in Tel Aviv. Fighting for al Quseir near the Syrian-Lebanese border could escalate into a regional war; the threat of its transition to the world is increasing.

So it was in past wars. Before the First World War, the dispute was about the Balkans, in the thirties, the conflict flared up around Poland. This time - the Middle East. America and Israel, along with the monarchies of the Gulf want to conquer Syria. This is the last center of resistance in the Mediterranean. If Syria collapses, Gulf oil and gas will flow through its territory, and revenues - into American banks. Israel will be able, without fear, to bomb Iran.

By and large, we are talking about - as in the last war - about world domination and an attempt to conquer Russia. Russia does not want war - but Russia did not want war in both 1914 and 1941. Russia does not want world domination - but does not want to bow its head to the yoke.

The dispute that flared up in the Russian press about the Second World War, at the subconscious level, was about a future war - whether to fight, or better to surrender, maybe the winners will settle our lives. Svanidze and Gozman branded Stalin, but they meant Putin. They praised the SS, but meant the American marines. Maxim Kantor wrote in his novel: Bolotnaya was an attempt of a coup, like the conspiracies of the Trotskyists of 1930. In 30, this did not pass, and again in 2012. Then the failure of the conspiracy was followed by war. Now история could happen again if the Russians fail to defend Syria.

The story is alien to fatalism. Dynamic plans for the conquest of Russia can be thwarted without a full-scale war - but not without victory. Thus, in the thirties, the victories of Marshal Zhukov at Khalkhin Gol and at Lake Hassan thwarted the plans of the Japanese to seize Siberia and the Far East and divide Russia with the Germans. So the Russian victory over Georgia in 2008 for a long time postponed plans for the West to dismantle Russia. But for the failures you have to pay - so, the unsuccessful 1940 Winter campaign of the year and the unsuccessful defense of Spain inspired Hitler.

Syria is Spain today. Russia's position is fair. Russia defended the independence of Syria - the supply of military equipment, diplomatic support, squadron. But the main thing was the will of the Syrians. Without their will, the Assad regime would collapse, and the Russian squadron would pick up the refugees. Despite the multi-billion dollar cash infusion of Qatar, despite the 50 of thousands of mercenaries - Syria is holding on. And Russian support is not weakening - although masters of disinformation have been swearing for two years now that “Putin will surrender Syria” - just as in 2008, they swore that “Russia will surrender South Ossetia”.

Here is one example. During his trip to Israel, Putin promised the Israeli prime minister to freeze the supply of Syrian air defense missiles, provided Israeli non-intervention in the Syrian conflict. The Israelis could not resist - they supported the rebels and thrashed Damascus three times in a row. The Russian leadership responded to this by defrosting supplies. Netanyahu flew to Sochi and tried to persuade Putin to keep quiet. But Putin unequivocally condemned Israeli intervention in Syria, and Russian missiles went to Syria. The Israelis launched a "duck", allegedly Russia refused to supply air defense. But this is part of the psychological war in which they have become adept. Russia will not surrender Syria, and will insist on the right of the people of Syria to decide their own fate - if only because the concession on Syria can lead the war to the gates of Moscow. If you are told that Russia will surrender Syria - you know, before you is an unscrupulous columnist.

Meanwhile, in Washington, supporters of the intervention called for an air blockade of Syria; Admiral James Stavridis said that Patriot rockets installed in Turkey would not only protect the skies over Turkey, but also bring down Syrian planes if they rise from their airfields. Plans for the destruction of all Syrian aviation were voiced in Washington. The strike should be struck by US aircraft carriers - but they are afraid to approach the Syrian coast, since there is a Russian squadron. A strike on the squadron is very likely.

Now Hezbollah has joined the war - a fighting religious order, a Lebanese ally of Assad, who managed to defeat the Israeli army in 2006 year. The war is not between Sunnis and Shiites, in their opinion, but between Israeli-American mercenaries, including Salafi and al-Qaeda, on the one hand, and the Resistance forces, on the other.

Hezbollah lost many fighters in the Battle of Quseir, and in addition to a residential area in Beirut, where sympathizers Shiites live, a missile volley was struck. It is possible that the Israelis are behind the strike on Beirut; they plan to strike at Russian air defense installations at the earliest opportunity.

In this extremely dangerous situation, retreat is even more dangerous than an offensive. The concession of the Russian positions will be regarded as weak, and will not be able to prevent, but accelerate the war.

Victory at Quseir

Veto of Russia, Hezbollah fighters and Tanks Damascus defeated the cannibal.

All sides in the civil war converged on one thing: the fate of Syria is decided in El Quseir. This small town thirty kilometers from Homs, not far from the Lebanese border, was in the hands of the rebels for more than a year, and an endless stream passed through it from Lebanon weapons and foreign fighters into the country. For Quseir were long and hard fighting. Among other forces, Quseir was held by the Farouk brigade; this is her commander Khalid al-Hamad, nicknamed Abu Sakkar, cut out and ate the heart of the enemy right on camera. So he wanted to strike terror into the hearts of government soldiers. He was asked by journalists - is he on a scary video? He answered: I have a video and more terrible where I saw the wrong one. Western insurgency sponsors saw that the fall of Quseir would block the rebels' oxygen, and this could not be allowed. The Council of Friends of Syria, including the European powers and the monarchies of the Gulf, gathered in Jordan and demanded that Bashar al-Assad stop and retreat. Real diplomatic war broke out.

The Americans suddenly remembered the suffering of the civilian population - although they stubbornly refused to condemn the terrorist attacks in Damascus, which killed hundreds of civilians, but then they referred the matter to the Security Council.
Russia did not flinch, vetoed their draft resolution, and thwarted the enemy’s plans to hold on to this most important foothold. Cannibalism did not help: the key to Damascus, the city of Quseir was taken by government troops after three weeks of desperate fighting, the rebels fled, and the civilian population remained in their homes and joyfully met the army, contrary to forecasts.

The Lebanese militant organization Hezbollah made a huge contribution to the victory. Yes, not exactly a charitable organization; maybe mother Teresa would not approve them, but in battle they have no equal. In 2006, they defeated the region’s strongest Israeli army. Then there was a joke in Israel: “Our troops took Marge Ayyun, the capital of Hezbollah. This is the sixth Marge Ayyun, who take our valiant armed forces this week. " Hezbollah is not just militants, but rather a religious Shiite military order, although it is supported by both Christians and Sunnis. His fighters do not pose for photographers, do not talk with journalists. But they know how to fight.

So far, they have refrained from directly participating in the war, but this time, Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said before the decisive battle, the future of not only Syria, but also of Lebanon and the entire region is being decided. After all, the Americans are unleashing a terrible internecine war everywhere, as they did in Iraq - they are putting off Sunnis, Shiites, Christians, and Alawis. To do this, they created Takfirs - this is the name of Muslim extremists, who are considered by other Muslims to be kafirs, unfaithful. Takfira, the “Trotskyists of Islam,” who are ready to kill everyone who does not share their positions, have become weapons in the hands of the United States and Israel, Nasrallah said. If they are not stopped, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Jordan, and then the Caucasus will burn in the flames of war.

He raised the slogan - "turn the civil war - into a war with the instigators of internecine wars, that is, with takfirs." Under this slogan, all factions of a divided Syrian society can fight shoulder to shoulder.

In Israel, they hoped that Hezbollah would be ground in an al-Qusayr meat grinder. Grind were supposed to be fighters al Nusra, Syrian takfira. Israeli military experts predicted that the Hezbollah units would even lose a thousand or two thousand fighters and crawl back to Lebanon, lick their wounds. The entire combat power of Hezbollah, according to Western estimates, is about four thousand fighters. If this forecast had come true, Hezbollah would have left the arena for a long time. But in the battles for Al Quseir they lost “only” about a hundred fighters, too many, but not fatal. At this price they snatched the victory.

With their usual duplicity, the Americans protested against the participation of Hezbollah in the battles for Al Quseir. At the same time, they gave more weapons and money for takfir militants from fifty countries, which they also brought to Syria for war with the legitimate government. But now, after the victory over takfirs, for the first time in two years there appeared hope for an end to the internecine war, which they incited. Hope for Syrians is a threat to Israelis and Americans, and they are going to intervene more actively in the course of events in Syria. Despite an important victory, the war is not over.
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  1. sergey72
    sergey72 10 September 2013 07: 39 New
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    Well what can I say .... I thought THIS does not happen - a Jew praises Hezbollah. In my spare time I got acquainted with the biography of Israel Shamir and learned from the wonder that he was born in Novosibirsk ..... belay
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 10 September 2013 08: 01 New
      +2
      Hezbollah won in 2006 what Chot author bent.
      1. domokl
        domokl 10 September 2013 09: 00 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hezbollah won in 2006 what the author bent.

        There are many friends of Horatio, in the world, which our sages did not dream of ...
        Hi Sasha. The author knows the topic very well. His assessment of Hezbollah’s combat effectiveness is very real.
        It seems to me that the author warns readers that soon, if things go in the same direction, the Jews will again have to fight not only with the army, but with the whole people.
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 10 September 2013 14: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          It seems to me that the author warns readers that soon, if things go in the same direction, the Jews will again have to fight not only with the army, but with the whole people.


          Yes, they always do. First they climb where they do not ask, and then they fight the whole people. There is nothing to be done - such a people. They play out to the point that a large radioactive dump will remain from the country.
    2. Crocodile
      Crocodile 10 September 2013 08: 14 New
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      It is evident that they are afraid that they have played too much with partners ... Israel is close and the Syrians are trying to get the maximum support from the Arab world over Israel at the very first opportunity. Rather, it was the states that decided to merge Israel with their actions, but clearly promised to take revenge ...
    3. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 10 September 2013 09: 48 New
      +9
      "In 2006, they defeated the region’s strongest army - the Israeli. Then a joke went in Israel:" our troops took Marge Ayun, the capital of Hezbollah. This is the sixth Marge Ayun, which our valiant armed forces take this week "" - Israel in 2006 was taught a good lesson. Israel definitely lost that war, both politically and on the battlefield.
      1. 2vladim2
        2vladim2 10 September 2013 20: 54 New
        +3
        Although there are many of our compatriots in Israel, I will say. Why do you want to fight, gentlemen from Israel? You even lose us football today. Already 3-0. Ah, I understand. You have an older brother, America. Have you ever thought that she can be changeable, like a bad girl? Think about it.
    4. seller trucks
      seller trucks 10 September 2013 10: 59 New
      15
      Quote: sergey72
      In my spare time I got acquainted with the biography of Israel Shamir and learned from the wonder that he was born in Novosibirsk .....


      one biography LITTLE, I first heard about Israel Shamir in the year 2005-2006, and his book "The Cabal of Power" comp. a very remarkable book, I recommend. A Jew is an anti-Seonist, a rather controversial person, they talk, and are excommunicated from Judaism.

      In a word, beautiful, article, (+), everything is clear, without epithets and other artistic and speech balcony
      1. Gregazov
        Gregazov 10 September 2013 16: 05 New
        +4
        The word Zionist is written through "And" under the name of Mount Zion.
    5. Hug
      Hug 10 September 2013 12: 31 New
      -14
      Leftists in Israel are also Jews, but from this they did not cease to be poets and traitors to their homeland.
    6. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 10 September 2013 14: 21 New
      +6
      Quote: sergey72
      Well what can I say .... I thought THIS does not happen - a Jew praises Hezbollah.


      Just a man gave a sober analysis of the situation.
    7. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 10 September 2013 14: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: sergey72
      In my spare time I got acquainted with the biography of Israel Shamir and learned from the wonder that he was born in Novosibirsk ..... belay


      Such a Jew laughing originally from Siberia. And the article is relevant laughing
    8. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov 10 September 2013 18: 33 New
      +6
      Quote: sergey72
      At leisure, I got acquainted with the biography of Israel Shamir

      A very peculiar Jew, At first he was a dissident in the USSR, then he moved to Israel and realized that everything in the USSR was not so bad! Wrote the book "Tear Off the Conspiracy of the Zion of the Wise" a rather controversial work. but worth reading. It’s a sort of endless dissident, but there are interesting points.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 10 September 2013 20: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: S_mirnov
        A sort of endless dissident

        This is destiny.
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 10 September 2013 07: 40 New
    +7
    Unfortunately, the war will be. Vile people will always find an excuse, concoct, if necessary, a new provocation. So much money is swollen, so much power is tied ... No, to be a war.
    1. Crocodile
      Crocodile 10 September 2013 08: 03 New
      +5
      Yes, for Russia the war will be very out of time, and Western liberals are very well aware of this.
      But constantly pleasing them is more expensive!
      Or wait until they accuse of not tolerance and wait for the headlines of Western newspapers- "Most Russians deny the 3,14 races a legitimate desire to satisfy their sexual desires with any resident of the country?" By Western standards, soon, this may also be the basis for an invasion!
      Let the pin dos sit at home using each other!
      After only one word about the guarantee of our security during the Olympics, the Saudis can be wiped off the face of the earth! Is this not a clear violation of all established international standards? Or did the Balts supporting the military claims of the United States imagine themselves equal to Russia and China? It seems the world is slowly going crazy ...
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 10 September 2013 09: 53 New
        +7
        the United States and Israel with the sixes will not lag behind Syria. They will find a reason to attack Syria, there will be another provocation. Assad will give the chemical weapons under UN control and he will have nothing to oppose Israeli nuclear weapons. The attack on Syria is a matter of time and the search for a reason to attack.
        1. alex13-61
          alex13-61 10 September 2013 11: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          The attack on Syria is a matter of time and the search for a reason to attack.

          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          there will be another provocation.

          The Belgian scientist Pierre Pichchinin da Prata, a former hostage recently bought from Syrian militants, confirmed, speaking on RTL-TVI, that the opposition had arranged a provocation with chemical weapons ... Previously, he supported her (the opposition).
        2. DEfindER
          DEfindER 10 September 2013 12: 59 New
          +5
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          there will be another provocation. Assad will give the chemical weapons under UN control and he will have nothing to oppose Israeli nuclear weapons.

          I also did not understand the motives for the transfer of Syrian chemical weapons to the UN .. so, in fact, Israel will cease to be afraid of Syria and the kirdyk of Syria .. I believe that any country should have its own "dead hand" in case there is nothing left to lose ..
          1. Akhtuba73
            Akhtuba73 10 September 2013 13: 12 New
            +5
            Quote: DEfindER
            Israel will cease to be afraid at all, and the kirdyk of Syria ..

            The idea is in the air ... I hope that the expectation is that by this moment cooperation with Russia will be at such a level and on such a scale that it’s easy not to do kirdyk. But if you now hold control over chemical weapons, then it is more than realistic to get an "Indian ax" ... and not one. Time, Assad needs time and the absence of US aggression.
        3. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 10 September 2013 13: 15 New
          +2
          Israel’s use of nuclear weapons will open access to such cases ... No Israel will be left to enjoy the result. Therefore, Israel does not apply it, because the mind is not yet completely gone. But he was very blown away, it is not clear to the Jews that they are with the Syrians in the same boat. All far-reaching political plans are being built, they are going to fight, suicide bombers ...
          1. Maks-80
            Maks-80 10 September 2013 13: 54 New
            +2
            But I think that how Israel can use nuclear weapons against Syria or its other neighbors if there is a common territory with all its neighbors less than our Krasnoyarsk Territory. If nuclear weapons are to be used there, then the Jews themselves will be completely covered by radiation and a shock wave.
            1. DEfindER
              DEfindER 10 September 2013 14: 54 New
              +2
              Quote: Maks-80
              how can Israel use nuclear weapons against Syria or its other neighbors if there is a common territory with all its neighbors less than one of our Krasnoyarsk Territory

              Israel most likely has tactical nuclear weapons in its arsenal, with charges of no more than 5 kTon, for destroying military units or infrastructure facilities. I think the affected area is not more than one city block, radiation will certainly hit the whole city, but it still won’t reach Israel.
            2. alone
              alone 10 September 2013 22: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: Maks-80
              But I think that how Israel can use nuclear weapons against Syria or its other neighbors if there is a common territory with all its neighbors less than our Krasnoyarsk Territory. If nuclear weapons are to be used there, then the Jews themselves will be completely covered by radiation and a shock wave.


              Do you think many people know what you wrote? Recently, one "competent" suggested that the Red Sea be mined with sea mines using Syrian special forces, even if Syria does not have access to the Red Sea.
      2. sub307
        sub307 10 September 2013 13: 32 New
        +6
        And when was the war (imposed) for Russia in time?
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 10 September 2013 14: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: FC Skiff
      Vile people will always find an excuse, concoct, if necessary, a new provocation. So much money is swollen, so much energy is tied ..

      Yes ...
      Rubicon passed ...
  3. Crocodile
    Crocodile 10 September 2013 07: 46 New
    10
    Recently, a lot of people have seen the duplicity of Western democracy. Yes, Syria today is Spain of the 40s. The author is right - Russia has nowhere to retreat!
    Russia defended Syrian independence by supplying military equipment, diplomatic support, and a squadron.
    One hope that our leadership will stand to the end in this matter!
    Yes, we do not want war, just as we did not want it in 1914 and 1941, but even more we do not want our children to feel like outcasts in their native land, to prevent LGBT values ​​and juvenile “protection” from taking root in Russia! Yes, the planet Earth is great, and Russia has nowhere to retreat!
    1. a52333
      a52333 10 September 2013 08: 03 New
      +5
      so that LGBT values ​​and juvenile “protection” do not take root in Russia!
      I'm afraid, Master, you underestimate the threat. LGBT flowers, but jihad and terrorist attacks on the territory of the RF berry. They did it once, they will do the second. Israel- Thank you +.
      1. SPLV
        SPLV 10 September 2013 17: 18 New
        +3
        Sorry, but with these "flowers" someone is threatening future generations. If you don’t leave now, then it may be too late.
    2. Onotollah
      Onotollah 10 September 2013 09: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: Crocodile
      Recently

      Quote: Crocodile
      duplicity of western democracy

      Yes, she was always like that.
      What else can you expect from a country whose formation began with the genocide of the local indigenous population and the forcible placement of its remains in conc reservations.
      The development of which was carried out due to the merciless exploitation of slave labor. pida Democrats traded PEOPLE 111
      And the recent and modern history of which is associated with violence, deception, genocide and war around the world.
      OPG in its purest form. To execute, it is impossible to have mercy.
  4. makst83
    makst83 10 September 2013 08: 06 New
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    For me personally, Israel Shamir is the same Anatoly Wasserman, both Jews, both truth-seekers! Honor and respect for both. Everything is capacious, truthful and concise.)))
  5. krpmlws
    krpmlws 10 September 2013 08: 11 New
    -10
    There is a small difference in Spain, our troops were like in China, like in South Ossetia, but what about Syria? There is not a single battalion of the Russian Federation there. Do not say halva will not be sweeter. the measures we are taking support Syria to some extent, assist the Syrian people, but whether they save, I think not. Of course, some events can happen, the Russian government can take unexpected actions, I hope, but I doubt it very much.
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 10 September 2013 09: 58 New
      +8
      Quote: krpmlws
      I’ll tell sedition: we have already surrendered Syria. All the gestures we undertake to some extent support Syria, provide assistance to the Syrian people, but whether they will save, I think not.

      Do you really not notice the HUGE abyss between "surrender" and "not save"?
      To surrender means to turn away, not to reach out, close your eyes.
      Could - put more minuses.
      1. krpmlws
        krpmlws 10 September 2013 11: 44 New
        -1
        Quote: Flood
        Quote: krpmlws
        I’ll tell sedition: we have already surrendered Syria. All the gestures we undertake to some extent support Syria, provide assistance to the Syrian people, but whether they will save, I think not.

        Do you really not notice the HUGE abyss between "surrender" and "not save"?
        To surrender means to turn away, not to reach out, close your eyes.
        Could - put more minuses.

        Put cons on more, for what? For insufficient knowledge of the Russian language? belay They surrendered when in fact they made aggression possible without introducing troops, without concluding relevant treaties. To save means to make efforts to compensate for the earlier miscalculations and shortcomings. You answer minus for your lack of desire for a healthy and thoughtful reading of the post. I expressed my opinion quite clearly and it’s logical, while there is no constructive criticism. MatRoss: wait and see, Amers will come to their senses, excellent.
        1. Flooding
          Flooding 10 September 2013 13: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: krpmlws
          Your answer minus, for your lack of desire for a sound and thoughtful reading of the post

          In my opinion, my answer is quite clear and fully meets the capacity of your post.
          Quote: krpmlws
          They surrendered when, in fact, they made aggression possible without introducing troops, without concluding relevant treaties.

          And do you think this is reasonable? What group of forces and in what composition would you consider to be a sufficient argument for ending the hostilities in Syria?
          Quote: krpmlws
          Put cons on more, for what?

          for moods and baseless conclusions.
          PS
          minus extremely reluctantly. It is unlikely that this year put ten minuses.
          1. krpmlws
            krpmlws 10 September 2013 13: 47 New
            -1
            Unfortunately, you have problems with "clarity and capacity", and this is indicated. A group of several Russian peacekeeping battalions good(I’m not writing an article, why don’t I understand it, but don’t need to wave a big mind with a saber) “For moods and baseless conclusions”, for moods? In your first post you didn’t say anything about my mood, criticized only my Russian language. “Baseless conclusions "so far only with you, you have not given any arguments.
            1. Flooding
              Flooding 10 September 2013 14: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: krpmlws
              Unfortunately, you have problems with "clarity and capacity", and this is indicated

              Do you misunderstand? By virtue of what? I do not know and do not want to know. Maybe the defects are inborn, perhaps acquired.
              You wrote nonsense, which fit in a nutshell, but are waiting for a detailed and reasoned answer. You will manage with three lines.
              Quote: krpmlws
              Grouping of several Russian peacekeeping battalions

              What will it give with tens of thousands of armed thugs terrorizing the country and the support of the Western powers? Russia holds some kind of maritime grouping off the coast of Syria, but you deign to write
              Quote: krpmlws
              We have already surrendered to Syria. All the movements we undertake to some extent support Syria, provide assistance to the Syrian people, but whether they save, I think not

              In your opinion, several peacekeeping battalions will solve the issue. Are you out of your mind?
              Quote: krpmlws
              you don’t need to wave a big mind with a saber

              Yes, you are partly right. Here you need to connect the brains.
              Quote: krpmlws
              for the mood? In your first post you did not say anything about my mood, criticized only my Russian language

              Do not sin against the truth. I did not affect your level of proficiency in Russian. It was about juggling. “Surrender” and “try to save and do everything possible” are essentially two different things. It's not about your Russian, but just about your moods.
              Quote: krpmlws
              "Baseless conclusions" so far only with you, you have not brought any arguments.

              What other arguments does a person screaming about surrendering Syria need? If it is white - black, and dry - wet, then the arguments are redundant.
              1. krpmlws
                krpmlws 10 September 2013 15: 40 New
                -5
                How many of you got all sorts of rubbish and insults, I did not expect another. Your attempts to at least explain something are hilarious, you only found the limitations of your position. You found one thought in all your opus, or rather an attempt to formulate at least something, namely: “according to you, several battalions will solve the issue,” I will not quote further, you’ve got too emotional, and really it’s time to connect your head. Interesting, will they decide which question? I’m just at a loss, I don’t know what you imagined there : Destroy the terrorists, and with everything else? Well, however, you have a fantasy. You should write novels. But to prevent NATO aggression, the battalions are quite capable, with the corresponding firm political support of the Russian Federation. "What arguments are needed ...", - dear friend Do you know how to read, or do I repeat my arguments in which I chewed everything in your mouth and put it in your mouth? You somehow ignored these arguments and turned on your idle talk again. request Vobschem everything, I’m tired of reading your meaningless exclamations and conducting a dialogue with you.
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 10 September 2013 15: 48 New
                  +1
                  Clear. Your case is not the first.
                  Quote: krpmlws
                  I’ve found one thought in all your opus, or rather an attempt to formulate at least something, namely: “according to your opinion, several battalions will solve the issue”, I won’t quote further, somehow you’re too emotional, and really it’s time to connect your head. Interesting , will they decide what? I’m just at a loss, I don’t know what you imagined there: to destroy the terrorists and with all this, in addition?

                  Look a little higher, inattentive reader
                  Quote: Flood
                  What group of forces and in what composition would you consider to be a sufficient argument for ending the hostilities in Syria?
                  1. Sergh
                    Sergh 11 September 2013 03: 55 New
                    +1
                    Quote: krpmlws
                    . But to prevent NATO aggression, the battalions are quite capable, with the corresponding firm political support of the Russian Federation

                    Yes you are my friend, bloodthirsty!
                    Firstly, NATO will not go there, it’s already a fact, and secondly, the state peacekeeper is assigned only small arms and for starters, all bandits from all over Syria will attack them, unshooted boys, your person will say “face” NATA. Are you aware that UN soldiers are being shot or do not follow the news?
                    Our Western "friends" will salivate from the pleasure of such events, and we (Russia) will be in full f ... e and with a train of headless corpses.
                    Peacekeepers are needed in Syria in the form of Msta-S, Su-25 attack aircraft, well, maybe helicopter gunships and other cool gifts. Syrian "peacekeepers" will soon "pacify" them themselves, this is the best option.
                    Here Al-Nusra recently Syrian fighters chopped;

                    1. krpmlws
                      krpmlws 11 September 2013 04: 57 New
                      0
                      “Yes, you old man, bloodthirsty!” Why did you come up with this for myself, I am for peace in the whole world. “NATO will not go there.” It’s great if there will be no invasion. The president’s president, in my opinion, is unusual, the second Roosevelt. Syria has long been razed to the ground. "state peacemaker" What peacekeepers do you mean, under the auspices of the UN? Battalions could be sent to Syria by bilateral agreement with Syria (there is our base in Syria, Russian citizens need to be protected), respectively armed (tanks, drones, air cover
                      1. krpmlws
                        krpmlws 11 September 2013 05: 10 New
                        0
                        A jamb of some kind, the post was cut off. I will continue: air cover). At the expense of the boys. There are soldiers and national interests of the Russian Federation. "Peacekeepers will soon pacify them themselves" The introduction of a contingent is one of the options to prevent NATO aggression, it makes no sense to use it in active actions against extremists. Read the posts carefully.
    2. matross
      matross 10 September 2013 11: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: krpmlws
      We have already surrendered Syria

      I do not agree. You are already starting to win back. They want to agree to a proposal to control the chemical. weapons. Putin threw a bone to the dog. And the dog is sniffing her now. Americans are not confident in themselves and are looking for how to save face (is the bone tasty enough).
  6. mirag2
    mirag2 10 September 2013 08: 20 New
    +2
    Yes, after Syria, the Salafis advocates of "pure" Islam will climb into Tatarstan and the Caucasus (and they already are there, they create sleeping entry points). But to unleash the last world war, which will immediately destroy everyone now, is stupidity. So we don’t there will be more time no matter what. And if you lose the fight now, there will be time to prepare another one. This, in my opinion, is anyway better.
    1. eplewke
      eplewke 10 September 2013 10: 10 New
      +5
      You cannot lose a fight! Already completely lost. Let’s surrender to Syria, they will begin to systematically strangle our economy. They drag a pipe from Qatar to Europe. The Mediterranean Sea will be lost forever. The Black Sea will become vulnerable. Syria will fall - they will engage in Iran. After Iran, we are in line. And the country's prestige as an ally will fall utterly. In general, at the highest possible level, by virtue of common sense, Assad needs to be supported.
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 10 September 2013 10: 12 New
      +4
      Quote: mirag2
      But to unleash the last world war, which will immediately destroy everyone now, is stupid

      I.e? This Russia, it turns out, is starting a war ???
  7. mitya24
    mitya24 10 September 2013 08: 23 New
    +3
    Good article. It remains only to recall that before the First World War, and before the Second there were provocations (the murder of the Archduke, the seizure of a radio station in Gleivitz). And here it becomes really creepy when the warships of NATO and Russia are facing each other at the distance of a cannon (not even a missile) shot. Indeed, if you imagine that someone IT (the third world) needs pah-pah-pah, then it’s better not to find time. God grant that everything comes to reason.
  8. 12061973
    12061973 10 September 2013 08: 38 New
    +2
    the olympiad must be held, and there the hands will be untied by the Russian Federation, but it is not clear why they were to be tied to ourselves.
  9. tilovaykrisa
    tilovaykrisa 10 September 2013 09: 24 New
    +1
    Good article.
  10. left-wing
    left-wing 10 September 2013 09: 50 New
    +1
    Squeeze, endure and cut out these cannibals!
  11. Sergeant
    Sergeant 10 September 2013 10: 04 New
    +1
    "" Will there be a war "I usually answer in the negative. But these days I will not vouch ...

    This is felt in Washington, in Tel Aviv, in Damascus and in Moscow. The warships of Russia and the United States are facing each other ... "

    Of course, what can I vouch for? Half of the work has already been done: All the players are put in place ("truncated according to plan, boss!"). Washington and Russia - cockerels, Damascus - arena. The owner is Tel Aviv (and its worldwide financial 5th monster column). Rates (profit), I think, have already been figured out too ... Even if they don’t fight, it doesn’t matter: the next arms race will begin (or rather, already (!)). Who will remain in profit and to whom this escalation in high? For us, the simple population ("strangers": Americans, Russians, Syrians ...) certainly doesn’t shine anything good in the foreseeable future .. History teaches nothing, unfortunately ...
    Thanks for the article.
  12. Revolver
    Revolver 10 September 2013 10: 19 New
    -5
    America, supporting the opposition, in fact supports the Islamists. Abnormal? And how. Of course, from the victory of bearded direct losses to America will not be, at least in the beginning and money. But if a thread terrorist trained by the bearded in Syria blows up a thread in America or Europe, and the facts come up, America will look, to put it mildly, not in the best way. And no matter how many years or two years later, or even earlier, Syria would “democratize” Syria a second time.
    But it’s even more abnormal that Russia supports Assad and Iran. Assad’s victory means the growing influence of Iran in the region and the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipe, and then through the Mediterranean Sea to Europe. And who will have cheaper Iranian gas beating customers and pushing prices? Praaavilno, at Gazprom. Does Russia need it?
    1. Suhov
      Suhov 10 September 2013 12: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Nagan
      America, supporting the opposition, in fact supports the Islamists. Abnormal? And how.yes


      Quote: Nagan
      But even more abnormally that Russia supports Assad and Iran.
      Assad's victory means ... the pipe Iran-Iraq-Syria, and further through the Mediterranean Sea to Europe.
      Does Russia need it?what


      Hand over Syria and get a gas pipeline Qatar-Syria-Europe. So ok? fool

      hi
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 10 September 2013 19: 52 New
        -1
        Quote: Sukhov
        Hand over Syria and get the Qatar-Syria-Europe gas pipeline. So okay?

        If we ignore the emotional arguments, then optimal for the Russian Federation, and by the way for almost everyone else, except for Islamists of all stripes, would be to maintain Syria in a state of sluggish intercommunal conflict. Then neither Qatar nor Iran will dare to pull the pipe. And if they take a chance, then who is stopping to hire for a small bribe some thread of fighters for no matter what, and regularly blow up this pipe?
        1. 31231
          31231 10 September 2013 21: 22 New
          0
          Well now, after all, these fighters do not blow up oil pipelines and gas pipelines ?! Here is the fact that the issue of money among the Arabs, like all Hasidim, is sacred.
        2. Suhov
          Suhov 10 September 2013 21: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Nagan
          keeping Syria able sluggish intercommunal conflict

          So - you can’t, not for Feng Shui!
          hi
    2. Vlad 1965
      Vlad 1965 10 September 2013 13: 09 New
      0
      Revolver
      USA AGGRESSOR.
      The United States has crushed over the past 20 years - Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia.
      Therefore, the limit of the claims of the overgrown America, will be put-stock up on diapers.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 10 September 2013 19: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Vlad 1965
        - stock up on diapers.

        As far as I remember, you and I did not drink. And taking into account your expression, this will not happen even virtually.
        drinks ?? negative !!!
        Therefore more convincingly I ask you not to poke so rudely anymore. In the meantime, take a well-deserved minus.
    3. Corsair
      Corsair 10 September 2013 13: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: Nagan
      And who will have cheaper Iranian gas beating customers and pushing prices? Praaavilno, at Gazprom. Does Russia need it?

      Apparently, the presence of an “innate arithmometer” prompted you to emigrate and apparently allowed you to quite successfully integrate into the American system of profit and consumption.
      But keep in mind NOT ALL in this world is measured in money, "net profit" will never cover the damage from the broken international norms, and just good neighborly relations ...
    4. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 10 September 2013 14: 21 New
      +4
      Quote: Nagan
      But it’s even more abnormal that Russia supports Assad and Iran. Assad’s victory means the growing influence of Iran in the region and the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipe, and then through the Mediterranean Sea to Europe. And who will have cheaper Iranian gas beating customers and pushing prices? Praaavilno, at Gazprom. Does Russia need it?

      You, there "beyond the river", do not understand us here, blown away by the wind of the consequences of the "Arab spring", within the reach of the frostbitten Islamists and the Kyrgyz Republic.
    5. chehywed
      chehywed 10 September 2013 23: 02 New
      0
      Quote: Nagan
      But it’s even more abnormal that Russia supports Assad and Iran. Assad’s victory means the growing influence of Iran in the region and the Iran-Iraq-Syria pipe, and further through the Mediterranean Sea to Europe

      Revolver , such a pipe is possible in any situation. And most likely it will be built. Considering that Russian oil and gas companies have "interest"in Iran, they are not indifferent to who will build it and will operate it. So Russia is also interested in this. Either the money (or at least part of it) will go to Russia, or to those who will be there instead of ... some kind of Saudis. .. laughing
  13. denson06
    denson06 10 September 2013 10: 31 New
    0
    If you are told that Russia will surrender Syria - you know, this is an unscrupulous observer.

    To the author and the article "+". Israel will play out .. As South Korea and Japan almost played out quite recently .. The USA and especially England always want to do their dirty work with the wrong hands .. this has been happening for many centuries in a row ..
  14. 31231
    31231 10 September 2013 11: 33 New
    -3
    The author smoked something.
  15. EtickayaSila
    EtickayaSila 10 September 2013 11: 43 New
    +1
    The whole article is a set of good wishes! Complete idle talk.
  16. 787nkx
    787nkx 10 September 2013 12: 05 New
    0
    There is a theory in military science that the causes of a local conflict cannot be completely eliminated without an open military confrontation between the parties to the conflict. Those. Awareness of the cost of the invasion and its consequences for both parties will only fully occur after the use of weapons. And before the conflict, neither side can adequately assess the conditions of reconciliation. In ordinary language, only after a fight you understand that broken teeth do not always correspond to the reason for the quarrel.
    1. Evgeniy65
      Evgeniy65 10 September 2013 12: 38 New
      0
      which is bad. how not to put your teeth they are no longer native.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 10 September 2013 14: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: 787nkx
      In ordinary language, only after a fight do you realize that broken teeth do not always correspond to the cause of the quarrel

      Today, "someone" thinks that these teeth will not be his, without noticing that the undertaker has already taken the measure from this "someone" ...
  17. Nayhas
    Nayhas 10 September 2013 12: 05 New
    -2
    Does the author have a brain problem? The title "If tomorrow is war" with the ending praising Hezbollah terrorists ...
    This line of Zhukov-Putin_Hizbullah amused me of course, but what is the point of the article? If tomorrow is war, then ... to all Hezbollah?
  18. erased
    erased 10 September 2013 12: 15 New
    +7
    1983 year. Program "Time". International politics. Not verbatim, but in meaning: "There is a tense situation, there is a civil war, there are some vile US mercenaries who attacked ... The Soviet Union is firmly in the position of peace and stability and will not allow ..." And sitting at the TV , I thought - they’re fighting cool there. And he also knew that this cannot happen with us.
    And this feeling of absolute security was almost tangible.
    year 2013. News releases on TV, the Internet. Again, in meaning: "Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, are defeated. Syria is under threat, Iran is under threat ... In Russia, a crushed industry, a weak army, old weapons, the ruble is falling, inflation. The fifth column, corruption, the rampant banditry, the inability of power to curb the crime of migrants and immigrants from the Caucasus. and a dozen more big problems and fifty medium ones ... "And now, seeing and hearing all this, I think - they got it over! Everything sailed here and now we have what we talked about 30 years ago about other countries. Progress is evident!
    What will happen tomorrow? ..
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 10 September 2013 14: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: erased
      What will happen tomorrow? ..

      If we "profukaem" our TODAYthen TOMORROW can come already without us ...
  19. optimist
    optimist 10 September 2013 12: 25 New
    0
    I, although I myself am an Optimist, do not share optimism with the author. Sooner to rejoice: everything is just beginning. We must pay tribute to the railway lawyers: they always bring things to the end and ultimately achieve their goals (as it is not regrettable to admit). The author draws very inappropriate parallels of present-day Russia with the USSR of the 30-40s of the last century. Then at the head of the country was the “silver-free” Stalin (which there was nothing to bury), and now the “king of thieves” is the military-industrial complex and the KO. It's just that the “guarantor” has not yet made an offer that he “could not refuse”. For example, “sworn friends” may hint at “swamp process No. 2,” “Chechnya No. 3,” and much more. The past elections showed, "that everything is not all right in Danish witchcraft." And if, God forbid, the crisis dodges, the "guarantor" and his accomplices Syria will deeply do not care: he himself would have stayed in power. So we will not celebrate victory ahead of time: the amers are not fools and understand, if they are now retreating from Syria, the scribe. Therefore, as the old Russian saying goes: "Do not wash, so skate." Amers vitally need World War III, and they will arrange it: the question is only in time ....
    1. Evgeniy65
      Evgeniy65 10 September 2013 12: 36 New
      0
      that's for sure . but wait, however, did not last long.
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 10 September 2013 16: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: optimist
      I, although I myself am an Optimist, do not share optimism with the author. Sooner to rejoice: everything is just beginning.

      Well, in any case, regardless of the outcome of the confrontation in Syria, the Russia-West confrontation will not stop.
  20. Evgeniy65
    Evgeniy65 10 September 2013 12: 26 New
    -1
    I don’t know what and how. but Russia over the past 20 years has sold almost all of its friends. and in my opinion it’s time to protect those remaining at all costs, otherwise Russia as a country will cease to exist. whether we have any weapons but with an entire planet alone. it’s about how one lamb is sent to disperse a pack of wolves, the outcome is obvious.
    1. Arabist
      Arabist 10 September 2013 15: 38 New
      +6
      Once again I ask alternatively gifted which friends we sold?
      1. smile
        smile 10 September 2013 17: 10 New
        +4
        Arabist
        He will not answer you ... we have such a breed of people who are not tired of sprinkling ashes on our heads and howling that we are the worst, uncultured, thieving and unreasonable in the world, but everything in the blessed West is different .... they’re in these all-prosralny howls see the meaning of their worthless existence ... tiligence, damn it ...
        1. Arabist
          Arabist 10 September 2013 18: 38 New
          +1
          I agree with you, you can’t alter these.
  21. Reded
    Reded 10 September 2013 13: 08 New
    +2
    Hello everyone, the article is interesting and many articles now and everyone is interesting everyone expresses their opinion about everything that is happening in the Middle East, only I know all the fuss ultimately against us against Russia and Syria is now the last bastion and we don’t lose and ignore we can because a lot depends on it. We declared ourselves loudly and there is no turning back, there is no one to rely on, and we are not used to relying on anyone, I know one thing, if we break all of them, let them go
  22. kapitan281271
    kapitan281271 10 September 2013 13: 23 New
    +2
    The situation really resembles 1914. Oh, I don’t like all this. Obama will not be a hostage to the situation; they will lose their loyalty to the Persian monarchies in Syria and a lot of things, how tired of these succumbing Anglo-Saxons I feel that if they hadn’t been there people would not have been at war for about 500 years. But we can’t build Syria. There is already a war for Russia. There will be no oil pipelines in Russia.
  23. Goldkonstantin
    Goldkonstantin 10 September 2013 13: 45 New
    +2
    I do not think that the Mess of Deception is so reckless as to arrange a Third World War. Although, I must admit that he, in fact, decides little, mdee. Well, then, Putin has already said that Russia will help Syria if the West intervenes. Iran will also enter on the side of Assad, and Iran will join China, this is understandable as God's day. Obamych understands this and has now been blown away by announcing that he could postpone the strike on Syria indefinitely. Let's see how much it lasts.
  24. michajlo
    michajlo 10 September 2013 14: 29 New
    +1
    Good day to all!

    I personally liked this article from the author (Israel Shamir). good You can argue about any details, exact terms or names.

    But the author’s general view on the problems of opposing forces, the object of aggression in Syria and the ultimate goals of the “troubled self-proclaimed rulers of the Near and Middle East” is very accurate.

    Despite the fact that "East is a delicate matter," it’s nice to read materials from people who can figure out "in the intricacies of faith and dirty profit."
  25. Vityaz68
    Vityaz68 10 September 2013 14: 35 New
    0
    HOPE THAT RUSSIA WILL HELP HEROIC SYRIA!
  26. albanech
    albanech 10 September 2013 14: 48 New
    0
    It's time for Russia to show its teeth! Glory to Russia! It is necessary to drive the “s” - the USA, stop showing them that they are at home everywhere! Their home is The Hague!
  27. Guterjunge
    Guterjunge 10 September 2013 15: 12 New
    +1
    Syria should not be surrendered in any case, for the obvious plus-merkos are beginning to think about the consequences. And let’s hand over, we’ll get a minus (Have handed over friends!) Mistrust ... In any case, the next month will be clear ...
  28. 31231
    31231 10 September 2013 18: 34 New
    +2
    By the way, you can’t see the local soldiers of Ben Gureon ?!
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 10 September 2013 20: 13 New
      0
      Och is foolish to adequately answer four, led by Arzamas. It's easier to finish them off ...
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 10 September 2013 20: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: nikcris
        By the way, you can’t see the local soldiers of Ben Gureon ?!


        Shota Ben Gurion warriors lose to our team until 3 ball. Hooray! bye, then we'll see.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 10 September 2013 21: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: Ruslan_F38
          Shota Ben Gurion warriors lose to our team until 3 ball. Hooray! bye, then we'll see.

          3:1, almost squeezed ... request
          1. alone
            alone 10 September 2013 22: 10 New
            0
            wink eh, as always this one spoiled a good start
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 11 September 2013 01: 18 New
              +4
              Quote: lonely
              eh, as always this one spoiled a good start

              Your comment, yes, on the Russia-Azerbaijan match.
  29. nikcris
    nikcris 10 September 2013 18: 44 New
    0
    Quote: albanech
    It's time for Russia to show its teeth! Glory to Russia! It is necessary to drive the “s” - the USA, stop showing them that they are at home everywhere! Their home is The Hague!

    Their home is a hut near Magadan.
  30. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 10 September 2013 19: 43 New
    +2
    Hope for the Syrians is a threat to the Israelis and Americans, and they are going to more actively intervene in the course of events in Syria. Despite an important victory, the war is not over yet.

    The Syrians defend their life and freedom, their cause is just, and the Israelis and Americans defend their right to throw dirty thieving paws into the pockets of others, their vile thieves case.
    In Europe, thieves' regimes also expect to profit from the robbery of Syria, as they had already gained from the robbery of Iraq and Libya. A flock of jackals ready to join the old European thieves, lowered from the leopard spotted Gorbi, after the elimination of the police department.
    The Pribludian fascist republics, too, are eager to sip blood on Iraq.
  31. chehywed
    chehywed 10 September 2013 22: 25 New
    +1
    The Americans suddenly remembered the suffering of the civilian population ...
  32. 1goose3
    1goose3 10 September 2013 22: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: stalkerwalker
    Quote: S_mirnov
    A sort of endless dissident

    This is destiny.


    Well no. It is rather a way of life. what
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 11 September 2013 01: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: 1goose3
      Well no. It is rather a way of life.

      winked
  33. MG42
    MG42 11 September 2013 04: 02 New
    +1
    If tomorrow the war

    Judging by the latest news, delayed until next week >>

    11 September 2013 01: 30

    The war in Syria: Obama called on Congress to postpone the vote. US President Barack Obama asked Congress to postpone the vote on a resolution on the outbreak of hostilities in Syria to give Russia time to negotiate the transfer of Syrian chemical weapons under international control.

    As the head of the Senate defense committee Karl Levine said, Obama expressed a desire to test how serious the intentions of Russia and Syria are on this issue.

    At the same time, the leader of the Senate Democratic majority, Harry Reid, emphasized that consideration of the possibility of military intervention will continue, Politico writes. According to him, the vote on Syria will be postponed until at least next week.

    The US Senate began consideration of the resolution on Syria on September 9, but the first vote on this issue was postponed indefinitely.

    As reported yesterday, Democratic leader in the US Senate Harry Reid decided to abandon the vote on military intervention in Syria on Wednesday.


    http://lenta-ua.net/novosti/politika/31155-voyna-v-sirii-obama-prizval-kongress-
    povremenit-s-golosovaniem.html
  34. GOGY
    GOGY 11 September 2013 07: 59 New
    0
    From what a breakdown Syria should give up its chemical weapons (and they will force it to do this, only Assad has to tell it). Obama could not prove that it was applied by the government, none of the normal ones believes these falsely concocted fakes, so why do striptease? On the contrary, it must be stated that there are reserves of such weapons and that Syria will use them in case of aggression, and here Putin had to come up with support, yes, they say, the victim of aggression has the right to defend himself by any means, and not come up with foul-smelling initiatives, knocking out the last trump card from the hands of Bashar al-Assad. If you were surrounded by a flock of jackals and you throw a piece to them - you think they will calm down on this. I do not think and I do not believe jackals. We are inferior to America in conventional weapons, they are only held back by our nuclear arsenal, and how do you like this situation: under any pretext (at least to protect the foes from persecution) there are many options here, if there was a desire, they would arrange a military blockade somewhere in the Baltic they tear up a knapsack nuclear charge (made by the way from our plutonium) and propose (there is a "peacekeeper") to put Russian nuclear weapons under the control of the international community. And this could very well happen if we take into account the current realities of our Russian existence (this has already been said more than once or twice), and Putin is not Stalin. Therefore, in my opinion, you cannot give chemical weapons to control, you cannot disarm if a bunch of bandits you to the wall, you have to calmly say: try - I'm ready.