Why the West chaos in the Middle East. The concept of three world wars. Part of 2

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The concept of the three world wars

What is happening in the Middle East makes us remember the plan for the conquest of the planet - the establishment of a “New World Order, by organizing three world wars. This concept was announced back in 1871 by the “black dad” of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry and one of the main founders of the Ku Klux Klan Albert Pike (1809 - 1891).

Pike was a very versatile person. He lived a life that was more than enough for several eventful lives of ordinary people. Born in Boston, worked as a teacher, devoted a lot of time to self-education. In 1831, Pike went traveling in the West, became a trapper (a fur beast hunter). In 1833, a donkey in Arkansas, taught again, began to publish. A publicist out of him came out good and already in 1835, he became the owner of the Arkansas Advocate. Pike continued his work on self-education and became a member of a professional bar association, anonymously wrote a book called the Arkansas Book of Forms. During the American-Mexican War 1846 — 1848. he volunteered for cavalry, became the commander of the detachment. After the war, he returned to legal practice, moving to New Orleans. Wrote another book: "The principles of the Roman Law and something from the Ancient French Law ...".

Pike was an opponent of the split of the state, but with the beginning of the Civil War, he went over to the side of the Confederation. He had connections with Indian tribes, so he was appointed Confederate Ambassador to the Indians and made several agreements with them. With the rank of brigadier general, he participated in the training of three regiments of Indian cavalry from Chiro, Chikasso, Choctaw, screams and seminoles (“five civilized tribes”). Due to conflicts with the authorities, and a number of accusations that his Indians scalped the fallen on the battlefield, wasting money, treason, resigned. He was arrested, but due to lack of evidence, he received freedom.

In 1867, Pike founded the Order of the Kuklux Clan Knights in Nashville, becoming its leader. At the same time, Pike entered the Masonic Lodge and, thanks to his activity, achieved a very high position. He became the Supreme Great Commander of the Southern Jurisdiction of the Freemasonry of the Scottish Rite. Pike became one of the most prominent masons of the United States. In 1872, he published the "Bible of Freemasons" - the book "Morality and Dogma."

There is evidence that in 1871, Pike wrote a letter to the Italian revolutionary and the Great Master of the Great East of Italy, Giuseppe Mazzini, outlining the concept of establishing power over the world through three major wars. The First World War was supposed to lead to the collapse of the autocracy in Russia, the death of monarchies in Germany and Austria-Hungary. After the collapse of the monarchies, a "communist" society was to appear. The prerequisites for a world war were to serve the contradictions between England and Germany. I must say that Mazzini shared similar views. He advocated the destruction of monarchies in the Austro-Hungary, the Russian and Ottoman empires, the creation of the Federation from European countries.

The second world war was to be organized by the ruling circles of the United States and Great Britain, through the manipulation of German nationalists and Zionists (the connection between Zionism and Nazism can be read in the book of N. Starikov "Who made Hitler attack Stalin"). The war was supposed to lead to the destruction of Germany and the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine.

The Third World War should, in accordance with this plan, begin because of the conflict of Muslims with Jews. As a result, the Middle East conflict will lead to a global fire. In this war, the Islamic world will be destroyed, and Christianity in Europe will finally collapse. Giant social upheaval will lead to the need of a new religion. It is already being prepared, it is ecumenism, which unites the foundations of all religions. The war should lead to the full triumph of those forces that can be called darkness.

An indirect confirmation of the fact that the owners of the Western project have information about the possibility of the conflict in the Middle East becoming a world war, a statement by the Vatican concerning the "Syrian issue". September 2 2013 Minister of Justice of the Vatican Mario Tozo said that Western military intervention in the Syrian conflict could lead to a global war.

It is believed that Pike's letter is kept in the British Library in London. The British Library stated that such a document does not exist. However, it is not even the authenticity of the document that is important here, but the essence of the ideas expressed in this plan. The events of the First, Second World War and the threshold of the Third World War indicate that some forces are quite consciously working on the construction of the “New World Order”. And this plan can be opposed only comparable to it, the global plan (concept). As Joseph Stalin said: “Without us, death is ours!”

Is a world war possible in the modern world?

Before the First and Second World Wars, pacifists had a strong position in public opinion. They believed that mankind has achieved impressive success in science, technology, education, the humanitarian sphere and a big war is impossible in principle. However, they miscalculated. So now, when the conversation about the upcoming global conflict comes, they start talking about the growth of civil identity, the presence of nuclear arsenals that make world war impossible phenomena.

But the events of various kinds of “velvet and color” revolutions, coups, the “Arab spring” show the thinking part of humanity that people both were the object of control and remained. In addition, it is necessary to take into account the changing nature of the war that awaits us. We, having absorbed the images of Soviet war films, present it in the form of armored column movements, motorized infantry, air strikes by large groups of aircraft. In reality, the war against Russia never stopped. In particular, after the collapse of the USSR, we lost in this war every year to 1 million and more people. The war, after the fall of the Iron Curtain, which defended the consciousness of the Soviet people, became informational. Defeated in the information war of the country can be determined by the growth of social diseases, the presence of a whole "army" of alcoholics, drug addicts, prostitutes, gangsters who have fallen out of relatively normal life. In Russia, huge strata of people living in “this” country were formed, ready to “slip away” at the very first threat. The consciousness of people changes radically, they lose the will to resist.

The information war is complemented by various destructive, network structures that are waiting for the “X” hour. Even during the Afghan war, the intelligence services of the United States and Great Britain, with the support of the special services of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, did a great job of growing the “army of jihad”. In 1990-2000, jihadists have seriously strengthened their positions on the world stage. They are constantly strengthening their ranks in the republics of Central Asia, leading an underground war in the North Caucasus, have already manifested themselves in Moscow, Tatarstan, Bashkiria and Siberia. The destruction of secular regimes in the Middle East clears the way for their cherished goal - the "World Caliphate."

Familiar to us in the previous wars of the fronts in the new world war will not be! "Fronts" will be held in the regions, major cities. The war will be fought with the help of terrorist acts, sabotage, there may be major insurgency in megalopolises. The army will have to destroy their own cities, displacing them from the gangs. Use nuclear tactical weapon, tank divisions, massive artillery and airstrikes, are not allowed. Special forces, assault groups, come first. A huge role is played by information and intelligence.

Impossible? Carefully study the example of Syria. The country, before the Western and Arab secret services, the network structures of Islamic radicals, took it, was stable. There was no serious opposition, in general, the population was quite power. Everything has changed literally before our eyes. Destroyed cities, brutal militants, slaughter on religious, ethnic, political grounds. There are no neutrals. According to the principle, "whoever is not with us is against us."

“The Syrian (“ Kosovo ”,“ Yugoslav ”) scenario threatens Russia and Europe. Europe and Russia have become zones of mass migration from the countries of the Islamic world. Migrants, their descendants become the social base of jihadists. In addition, Russia, like China, India, has its Muslim regions. In Russia, in conditions of ideological emptiness, thirsting for social justice and adventure, young people, and not only ethnic Muslims, but also Russians, stretched into the ranks of the "warriors of Islam." The turmoil in the Middle East has already caused huge migration flows. After Syria and Iran, the South Caucasus and Central Asia are in line. The social base of the "army of Islam" will get even stronger. Many refugees will find that “infidels” (Europeans and Russians) undeservedly own such territories and are clearly unworthy of the title of a man. In some respects they will be right. The degradation of the European population has already made most of the Europeans "vegetables", they have lost their fighting capacity, their intelligence and armed forces have undergone a radical reduction. Considering the fact who controls the basic social processes in the west (various kinds of network structures, order and masonic character), it can be concluded that Europe is deliberately weakened militarily. Young people prefer to spend their health and time in entertainment, rather than preparing for work and defense. Even the relatively small unrest in the major cities of Europe, which we have seen in recent years, besides having no character of an armed uprising, leads to a host of problems.

One can imagine what will happen in major European cities, when well-armed gangs, whose fighters are trained by American, British, Saudi, and Turkish instructors, have gained experience in fighting in Yugoslavia, Kosovo, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and other hot spots. operations. They will be point-like - strikes at important objects of infrastructure, attacks on police stations, administration buildings. Chaos and panic will drown the major cities in the blood. How will crowds of ordinary people behave when there is no water, electricity, heating, food? Self-organized and resist gangs? It is doubtful. Most likely, they will add problems to the authorities.


Map of the Islamic world.

Basic prerequisites for the implementation of the "Syrian" scenario

- The presence of powerful Muslim communities in Europe, Russia, India and China. A lot of work has been done to split the population on the basis of religion. Muslims are set against the infidels.

- The decomposition of the population in Europe and Russia. Russians are so close to Europeans in terms of their desire for consumption and hedonism that their enemies must have a question - are Russians as strong as they used to be? The desire to test the combat capability of the Russians is growing every year. Having the “heart of the Earth” imposes a great responsibility on the Russian people. Only the most worthy people can have such a territory by right. Our ancestors proved that they deserve it, instilling in everyone respect and fear of their willingness to fight to the last. The time comes when we have to prove it ...

- Lack of ideology. The “army of jihad” is superior in this respect to its opponents. Supporters of “gender equality”, “free love”, sexual perversions, pacifists, people who spend more money on dogs and cats than on raising their own offspring have no chance against supporters of traditional values. Muslims are willing to die for their faith.

- Transparency of borders. Network structures have all the capabilities for the transfer of people, weapons, ammunition, ammunition, campaign materials, money and drugs. In this regard, Russia and the countries of Europe are more vulnerable than China and India.

Russian Strategy

If you want peace, prepare for war. In this regard, in recent years, the authorities have shown good performance. But this is not the main thing. Only a civilization that will present an attractive image of the future to the planet can stand and win in the world slaughter. At present, western, neo-slaveholding, human development project has a complete superiority. The Islamic world has no such concept; the “World Caliphate” is only a mirage. Muslims do not have a program of building a good, fair society. The theoretical victory of the jihadists will lead to the archaization and degradation of humanity, its “afghanization” and “somalization”. The Japanese and Indian civilizations are closed in themselves, have serious systemic flaws. They do not have the potential to lead the process of building an equitable world order.

The Middle Kingdom also does not have its global concept. China has a creative charge, but it is not enough to lead the globalization process. But he can support the movement towards a fair world order. This is a chance for China to break the ancient vicious circle: flourishing - degradation - collapse, death - restoration - flourishing. At present, China is at the peak of its “heyday”, with negative tendencies. World War may push China to a new collapse, with the death of the majority of the population.

The victory of the masters of Western civilization is the “trumpet”. The victory of the forces of evil and darkness on Earth. Surviving people will be expected to "electronic concentration camp", the omnipotence of the caste of "chosen" over the "talking tools." It is possible that the worship of a single "supreme being", Setu - Satan, will become global. People who have kept their conscience will be put on the brink of survival.

The only way to save Russia and humanity is the USSR-2. And the USSR neostalinsky, not Khrushchev-Gorbachevsky. The recipes are pretty simple, nothing complicated about them. Only political will is needed. Everything was already under Comrade Stalin. Inside the country: the complete elimination of the "fifth column" and the layer of thieves, like Chubais and Serdyukov. Elimination of ethnic crime and drug mafia. Nationalization of key sectors of the economy, the movement towards autarky. The elimination of national republics and autonomies, while preserving cultural autonomy. The restoration of the Soviet system of education and upbringing is based on the principle “ready for work and defense”. Moral censorship in the media. Demographic program focused on the rapid growth of the indigenous population, aimed primarily at endangered ethnic groups. The main points of the demographic program should be: the elimination of abortion, with the exception of medical indicators; receiving family homes for use at the birth of the first child and in full ownership - at the birth of the third; comprehensive support of large families; the return of women to the family - women with three children and more should be able to work only with their families, with a material reward equal to the national average. A bet on a technological breakthrough. Russia should become the first country to step into the future.

In foreign policy. The course for the reunification of the wreckage of Great Russia - Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Tight integration, with possible integration, with Kazakhstan and Armenia. With a sharp exacerbation of the international situation, the inclusion of the Baltic states, Moldova, the South Caucasus and Central Asia in its sphere of influence. They should not become enemy footholds. At the same time it will be necessary to recreate the "Pale of Settlement." Mass migration is evil. The principle must prevail, where he was born there and was useful. "Nomads"? looking for a "warm" place we do not need. It is possible to move only people whose skills are in demand. Naturally, visiting relatives for a visit, or as part of domestic tourism, will still be the norm. Regarding foreign countries, the principle of Alexander III - Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy. Russia has already fought enough, getting into other people's wars that do not meet its national interests. You can not get involved in the "Spanish script." Syria must fight itself. From our side - political, moral support, the sale of weapons, ammunition, ammunition. You can share intelligence information.

In the sphere of global politics - a course to build a fair world order. It is necessary to understand the simple truth - the fight for the title of "king of the hill" is inevitable. The process of globalization is objective. If he cannot be stopped, he must be headed. Refusal to fight leads to the fact that Russia becomes the object of impact of other projects. This is a losing position. Russia’s internal successes should show the world an image of a different path leading to the stars. We must honestly admit, first of all to ourselves, that there is no “golden mean”. Mankind must follow the path of the “gods”, become wise and strong, get out of the “cradle”, or it will degrade to beastmen. At the border of 20 - 21 of centuries, mankind for the first time stopped its ascent, the process of involution, simplification began. This is a very dangerous moment. It is necessary to stop the degradation and continue climbing.
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  1. +10
    4 September 2013 07: 58
    + article.
    Nothing is said about religion. It will not exist at all, on the model of the USSR, or it will concern only non-Russians.
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 08: 25
      I don’t think that the USSR-2 will come true, they don’t want the oligarchs and a simple peasant who is engaged in small and medium-sized businesses. And after the third world, large territories in Eurasia and North America will not be suitable for life, due to radiation infection. United States you need to write off debts, and this is escalating the situation with Izgrail, since the Jews, having lost the support of the United States, put themselves in a bad position.
      1. +6
        4 September 2013 15: 41
        A political decision has already been made on Armenia to join the customs union. It is very important what Yanukovych and Ukraine will do. If Ukraine joined, it would be purely territorial, etc. - that would be significant. Kazakhstan and Belarus already exist. Kazakhstan is a huge territory covering the south. And Belarus, although small, is technologically advanced enough. Maybe someone else would have pulled themselves up. only national issues need to be resolved sensibly ... Now, in this area, the situation is escalating everywhere, especially through social services. networks - like "twitter revolutions". Feels the same hand ...
        But, in general, USSR-2 is not such a utopia ...
      2. Vlad 1965
        +1
        4 September 2013 16: 02
        Igor 39,
        Right now I dug in the internet, such information, how true it is, is not clear, but the fact that you, the top, call them whatever you like, can go for it, you can judge by any means.
        From the escalation of hysteria, to really some preparations.
        http://vseneobichnoe.livejournal.com/1837537.html
    2. F117
      +1
      9 September 2013 22: 16
      Religion should not remain in principle. This is a relic of the Middle Ages. A new concept should be born, based on tradition, family, peacefulness, development. In this case, each state will contribute not to the militarization of the planet, but to the elimination of the negative consequences of cataclysms, the scientific and economic development of mankind, and the development of new lands. Here is what is known about this:
      At the beginning of the third millennium, the oldest faith will revive, which will unite the nation so that the west, south and east shudder. These northerners are powerful in nature, and only an alien religion robs them.
      M. Nostradamus.
      There is no force that could break Russia. Russia will develop, grow and grow stronger. Everything will melt like ice, only one thing will remain untouched - the glory of Vladimir, the glory of Russia. Too much has been sacrificed. No one can stop Russia. She will sweep away everything from her path and not only survive, but also become the ruler of the world. Russia is the foremother of all Slavic powers. Those who have turned away from her will return in a new guise. Russia will not turn from the path of reform, which in the end will lead to an increase in its strength and power. Now Russia is called the Union. But old Russia will return and will be called in the same way as under St. Sergius. All acknowledge its spiritual superiority, and America too. It will happen in 60 years. Prior to this, the three countries will come closer: China, India and Russia.
      Wang 1979
  2. +7
    4 September 2013 07: 59
    Now Obama is already holding nothing for striking, and here the frogmen will perk up - not only those left after all the statements. And all these restrictions in the form of 60 + 30 days ONLY AIR BLOWS, this is only a weak cover for their lack of scope!
    Hold on to the people of Syria!
    And heap on you, meritic and other allies, all types of tomahawks and missiles!
    1. +8
      4 September 2013 12: 18
      Quote: aszzz888
      And heap on you, meritic and other allies, all types of tomahawks and missiles!

      If someone piles on mericos, then history will go a different way. Here and the USSR-2 is quite possible.
  3. +1
    4 September 2013 08: 04
    Well, the author swung:
    "... In this case, it will be necessary to recreate the Pale of Settlement."
    - this has already led to the 1917 revolution and other upheavals;
    "... Liquidation of national republics and autonomies"
    - this clearly leads to ethnic conflicts;
    and other, other, other, the most important thing in the list of "events" is not - an idea that will be a unifying and driving force. The author turns out to put the cart in front of the horse.
    1. +4
      4 September 2013 09: 10
      Pale of Settlement - is it a residence permit? If so, then this generally needs to be removed, because a citizen of a country must move within its borders without obstacles. The exception is weapons registration.

      The national republic and autonomy definitely need to remove and return to the administrative-territorial division, as was the case in the Republic of Ingushetia. Yes, and there will be no special conflicts
    2. +2
      4 September 2013 12: 19
      Quote: saag
      The author turns out to put the cart in front of the horse.

      No, no, he's just in the trash.
    3. +1
      4 September 2013 16: 52
      nor did this lead to the 1917 revolution.
  4. nik221276
    +16
    4 September 2013 08: 09
    At the expense of the elimination of national republics, the author is right. Lenin laid this time bomb, now we see the results ..
    1. Vlad 1965
      +2
      4 September 2013 15: 37
      Not Nonsense. It would be better to read carefully how the attempt to withdraw from the Union was justified.
      And after that they would have looked at how all of Yeltsin, Krapvchuki and Shushkevichi had done, as legally-legally, fall under the Criminal Code.
  5. +18
    4 September 2013 08: 27
    Only the most worthy people can have such a territory by right. Our ancestors proved that they deserve it, instilling in everyone respect and fear of their willingness to fight to the last. The time comes when we have to prove it ...
    I’ll have to explicitly (I can smell it in my mouth ..) I won’t be able to get out.
  6. +4
    4 September 2013 08: 30
    +2 article! the idea is not bad. we only need to Work in this direction and hard!
  7. paul1969
    +11
    4 September 2013 08: 35
    EVERYTHING IS WRITTEN WRITTEN !!! THERE IS NO WAY TO BE ANYTHING !!! CAN QUIETLY BRACE BRAIN WITHOUT PREJECTION AND ACCUSSIONS TO THE AUTHOR !!! ONLY SO !!!
  8. Ddhal
    +7
    4 September 2013 08: 36
    can everything be much simpler - is Muslimization on the one hand and same-sex marriage on the other the only way to survive the planet? Some kill each other and invent nothing, others do not give birth to children. Global slowdown ... as a compensation for the feverish growth of the consumer sector despite the exhaustion of the planet's resources. Too often, recently appeared new models of devices .... How much% of their functionality do we use? And how much% of the brain?
    Progressive regression ....
    1. +4
      4 September 2013 10: 39
      And people will be replaced by intelligent cockroaches ...
  9. +8
    4 September 2013 08: 40
    All this was repeatedly written in his works by Academician Levashov, it is only necessary to come out against the forces of darkness together and victory will be ours. What the apologists of the dark forces are most afraid of, mortally afraid of the unity of all people against the dark forces, this is the main reason: why does the West need chaos in the Middle East East!
  10. wolland
    +3
    4 September 2013 08: 51
    CCCR-2 is quite possible, and it is quite possible for Putin to head it, against the nationalization of everything that I have big people will all be against, we need a unified opinion of thinking, to nationalize such things, why everyone praises Stalin, he was able to drive it into everyone’s heads that ideology is not so bad ....
    1. +1
      4 September 2013 11: 00
      The Stalinist USSR had too ossified "elite" and illiterate managers who turned the lives of ordinary people into hardships in a significant mass. The structure of the supreme power, after all, should be more flexible and have a "feedback" with the people. The structure of the supreme power must be adequate to the level of education of the people.
      1. Vlad 1965
        0
        5 September 2013 10: 37
        Tektor
        Who put this stupid thing into your head-Svanidze-Mlechins-Radzikhovsky with partners?
        Have you read anything else about the quality of managers in the Stalinist USSR?
        If not, it would be better to be silent than to write such nonsense.
        1. +3
          14 September 2013 17: 35
          I can not stand Svanidze - people of a certain worldview always turn out to be to blame for him.
    2. +4
      4 September 2013 12: 24
      Quote: Wolland
      CCCR-2 is quite possible, and it is quite possible for Putin to head it

      Well, if he starts with the nationalization of the Central Bank and pegging the ruble to the dollar, and then nationalizes the energy, resource-extracting industries, then yes.
      1. +4
        4 September 2013 18: 19
        Quote: Ustas
        and peg ruble to dollar

        How can one attach RUBLE to cut paper))!
        But assign the country resource extraction, then YES!
  11. Luger
    +5
    4 September 2013 08: 56
    Quote: "According to this plan, the Third World War should begin because of the conflict between the Islamic countries and Israel. As a result, the Middle East conflict will lead to a world fire. In this war, the Islamic world will be destroyed, and Christianity in Europe will finally collapse."

    In 1871, when, according to the author of the article, a letter was written with scenarios of a possible war, the state of Israel was not on the map, it was only in the dreams of the Jews, so that the author was stirring up and pulling his ears. Talk about the state of Israel only began in 1912, and then without a clear definition of the boundaries of its possible borders.
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 10: 26
      Quote: Luger
      In 1871, when, according to the author of the article, a letter was written with scenarios of a possible war, the state of Israel was not on the map

      Well then, there was no such Germany as 35 years ago ... But according to the Germans' claims to France, this seer probably already then predicted the inevitable conflict between England and Germany in 1914. It certainly needs to be a genius but possible.
      1. 0
        4 September 2013 18: 21
        Quote: Egen
        It certainly needs to be a genius but possible.

        Well, or a co-author of the plan)).
    2. Asan Ata
      +5
      4 September 2013 11: 00
      In the 19th century there were 5 world conferences dedicated to the Jewish question. In 1906, Chamberlain proposed Uganda as a place of local residence for Jews. In 1907, the World Jewish Congress categorically rejected this idea, and in 1917, Jews created a revolution in Russia.
      1. +4
        4 September 2013 11: 04
        Quote: Asan Ata
        In 1906, Chamberlain proposed Uganda

        It was he who gave the blunder :) In today's place, the Jews are geographically constrained by the environment of not always friendly Arabs-Turks towards them. And there, they would spread all over Africa :)
        1. Mature naturalist
          +1
          4 September 2013 22: 48
          Quote: Egen
          Quote: Asan Ata
          In 1906, Chamberlain proposed Uganda

          He gave the blunder :)

          By the way, if Moses drove them 40 years, then he drove them not along the deserted Arabian peninsula, but along the other side of the Nile, and they reached Uganda.
    3. explorer
      +1
      4 September 2013 11: 18
      Quote: Luger
      The Third World War, in accordance with this plan, should begin due to a conflict between Muslims and Jews. As a result, the Middle East conflict will lead to a global fire.

      And where is the state of Israel?
  12. +6
    4 September 2013 09: 00
    GDP spoke about the need for a new idea. In general terms, I agree. USSR- began to gain forch. Yesterday Armenia joined the CU. Oh, Ukraine would be returned, this lost son.
  13. Micex
    -12
    4 September 2013 09: 01
    why, let's get even more radical ??? let's throw off a bomb on all Muslims right away tomorrow, and there’s no problem, and even better - then we’ll drop a bomb on them and on the West, and on the Chinese, so as not to interfere, but in general we’ll bump all at once and live alone on the ball? ?? not satisfied?
    here the article is written in the same vein - the homeland is in danger, give us 39 years old, and soon, we will cut out all the excess, and we will live alone in an ideal society. The residency proposal is the most fun. I would like to remind the author that Lenin, Stalin and other great figures were not born in capitals at all. Well, and the author, if you really want to sit in a fly, let him stay there. Article minus and bold minus. Ordinary populism, just reactionary.
    1. +11
      4 September 2013 09: 33
      And let's not "cut out" anyone! let gays in schools teach your children to have sex correctly, let the rollback be indicated in financial reports, let your neighbor, if he wants, can slaughter a lamb on the staircase for the holiday. Let everything remain as it is? And what about the Pale of Settlement is also true - I live under NN and don't understand the point of going to Moscow - I have a lot of things to do at home
      1. Micex
        +7
        4 September 2013 09: 42
        I indicated all this so that it becomes clear that such proposals are ordinary populism. I live in the Urals, a Chechen family lives on my stairwell, they don’t cut sheep, they don’t make noise, they don’t carry guns. But I know one m .. ka who boasts of collecting money for jihad in Syria and in the know who went there to fight. These personalities need to be cut out, and let the FSB deal with this, by the way, very much believe that this particular person was taken from them under a cap. And there were always gays, in all societies, and in the USSR they were, and they did not interfere with anyone's life, well, to hell with them. but those smart people who scream in the street and dress up in women's clothing - they need to be cut out, and let the police do it (the law is very handy). There are people and there are nerds, everywhere and everyone - they need to be fought, so I am for toughening the laws, but not for 39 years.
        1. +6
          4 September 2013 10: 42
          then it’s not the 39th, but the 37th. at 39 just Beria became a people's commissar and began large-scale amnesties
        2. +4
          4 September 2013 12: 32
          Quote: Micex
          therefore, I am for toughening laws, but not for 39 years.


          Well, let's think.
          there are now about 2,5 million officials in Russia.
          if you start trusts, then you can safely plant half. all kinds of "entrepreneurs" of the "buy-sell" type will be added to them, as well as the corruption component of the army / police / Ministry of Emergency Situations, etc.
          as well as the majority of writers and film-makers working for grants against us.
          as well as all the terrorists of the Wahhabis and mullahs freshly trained in the UAE, who are not being touched right now "so as not to whip up"

          DO YOU REPRESENT HOW MUCH TO HAVE TO PLAN?

          at least 4 million people.
          and this is exactly what will happen if JUST FOUND THE LAW FROM AND TO.

          so how do you think this is toughening the law, or repression?
          do you think in those days it was different 7
          especially when you consider that the civil war ended just yesterday, and on the prow of a world war.

          and by the way, I agree with my SABLE colleague, at 39 Beria began to review the affairs of the authorities from 36 to 39 and released FROM THE FOUR QUARTER TO THE THREE SIDEMEN.
          it was under him that they organized closed design bureaus (the very sharagi) that gave the country new weapons.
          1. Micex
            +1
            4 September 2013 14: 05
            I agree with you, I agree completely, but !!! if at that time our country was lucky and intelligent people were at the helm, now where are the guarantees that everything will go in the right direction ??? and where are the guarantees that the country will not fall apart and there will be no civil war. Do not confuse the situation - at that time the country was being collected from the ruins, after the civil war, you yourself write about it. And now we have that, the country is falling apart, or what? Civil war and does not smell, people have just groped the ground under their feet, and some clever people suggest - "let's destroy everything and build anew" And how will it all turn out? new 90s, or with the civil war v.2 ????
            1. +1
              4 September 2013 15: 11
              Quote: Micex
              if at that time our country was lucky and sensible people were at the helm, now


              and the same thing now.
              the country is ruled by the CLANS.
              conditionally they can be divided into THREE
              1 - the clan (let's say) of the sovereigns - primarily the GDP, Rogozin, Shoigu pr security forces and part of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
              2 - the "liberal" clan - an iPhone, a chubasya gref, etc.
              3 - the clan is the most insignificant, but the most numerous - the MAJORITY of various ranks.
              PRINCIPLE them do not care who is at the helm, GDP Zyu or chubbing, if only they were not torn from the feeder.
              the only one they ALL TOGETHER will not allow to power is a figure of the rank of Stalin.
              since their heads will fly first.

              The situation described above also determines the position of the country, where one step forward is a step backward.
              and so we’re stomping in one place.
              tightening up the defense industry and "monetizing" the social sector
              laudable foreign policy position, and complete failure in domestic.
              everything rests on the authority of GDP, and of course on the price of oil, of course.

              you can’t do without cleaning the device, but in real life cleaning is not possible, since clan No. 2 is supported by significant foreign forces.
              so either dictatorship, or right now - play the fool.
              Well, there can still be unity in the face of an external threat.

              Well, in economics (your bottom post)
              there will be no revolution until the resource-extracting industries (at least they) are nationalized, and the incomes lie in various funds of the national state (and in fact in Western papers)
              and not allowed for infrastructure and production INSIDE the country.
              as well as the introduction of customs duties focused on the welcome of the DOMESTIC manufacturer.
              but alas, Russia got into the WTO


              something like this.
              1. +4
                4 September 2013 15: 53
                Quote: Rider
                the only one they ALL TOGETHER will not allow to power is a figure of the rank of Stalin.

                The rank of Stalin, as we understand him, was formed only after assessing the consequences of Stalin's activities. In the beginning, I.V.Dzhugashvili was his own and suitable for moving up the ladder of power.

                The concept of "collective Hitler" is already encountered about Islamic extremists, which means that there is also "collective Stalin" in the hearts of Russians in the world.

                Good, like Evil, sprouts on prepared soil. These concepts, like light and darkness, are initially uniformly distributed across the planet. However, people can put out the Sun, or illuminate the darkness of the night. The choice is civilization, here we have another exam for maturity.
              2. Micex
                0
                4 September 2013 17: 30
                I’ll supplement the economy - one of the main ills is the Central Bank, where the state has only partial control and does not have the necessary leverage. This point concerns both the various funds (I agree completely here) and the domestic producer. Let me explain - we have a commodity country, yes, but we can support our native producer by raising the dollar and euro against the ruble, i.e. by devaluation. http://akudrin.ru/upload/iblock/7aa/10-06.pdf here is an article by Kudrin on this topic.
                and about the clans - I do not agree with you, because I do not believe in it. rather, I’m ready to agree that there is power, there are lousy elements in power, and there are officials who really are all good. and the fact that Medvedev is competing with Medvedev is not ready to believe it.
                1. +1
                  4 September 2013 19: 12
                  Quote: Micex
                  and about the clans - I do not agree with you,


                  just drive into the search - chubais bilderberg club
              3. +1
                4 September 2013 23: 50
                Rider KZ Today, 15:11
                Good evening, dear Alexander!

                I generally liked the article, and I don’t want to argue about the names and terms, what some members of the forum do in my opinion, but I was interested in the CONTENT and the call not to be content with a brief explanation of complex things, but to put questions ourselves, look for answers to them and INSTEAD OF THE MESSAGE to look for the "correct ford across the RIVER OF LIFE ".

                I agree with you in everything, your analysis and suggestions are generally correct!

                Question for small: Who will undertake the implementation of such a plan of the USSR-2?

                For some reason, I think that it is time to move from words and conversations to things a little, i.e. REALIZATION Relatively PEACE TIME ends quickly!

                Although if you look at the direction of the discussions not only here on the VO website, but in many other parts of the Russian-language media over the past 6-18 months, then e.e. there is a feeling that your voiced CONCLUSIONS already starting to be realized by someone! ?
                1. 0
                  5 September 2013 10: 37
                  Quote: michajlo
                  there is a feeling that your voiced CONCLUSIONS are already beginning to be realized by someone! ?


                  what is in the air.
                  The 1st clan is trying harder to take control of it.
                  while this is only visible in the economy.
                  just recently decided to print the gold and currency capsule for the needs inside the country.
                  opens a bunch of enterprises, attempts to bring the central bank under control.

                  but clan 2 is simultaneously activated
                  new privatization, the Ministry of Education, impact on the Academy of Sciences, but how did the publication of the ONE textbook on the history of Russia pass through?
                  judging by the reviews, it was written by Svanidze and Latin.
                  and if we take into account clan 3, which, out of inability and lack of observance, will spoil any good undertaking.
                  as in the case of forbidden cartoons, it becomes quite uncomfortable.

                  but it's like a "peaceful confrontation"
                  Unfortunately, the time for change is coming, and in the case of a big kipish, the problem with the "elites2" will have to be solved by emergency methods, or they will solve OUR problem.
                  third alas ...

                  with uv.
          2. Micex
            0
            4 September 2013 14: 10
            Everyone who managed to steal in the 90s will die soon, this is life, and their children will lose everything (only effective owners will remain) There is such a thing as the economic cycle, and the cycle in Russia is connected specifically with one generation. Its beginning is already visible, in almost all areas of the Russian economy the silt crisis or stagnation is visible. So there will be a revolution in the Russian Federation, only an economic one, when an ineffective owner (children of those who now control cash flows) will be unable to manage property. Effective owners will take all this into their hands, and everything will fall into place. Therefore, it is necessary to fight against foreign introductions (gays, radicals, liberals and other evil spirits) and it is useless to beat your own citizens - they themselves are all just ... t
            1. +4
              4 September 2013 15: 16
              Quote: Micex
              So there will be a revolution in the Russian Federation, only an economic one, when an ineffective owner (children of those who now control cash flows) will be unable to manage property. Effective owners will take all this into their hands, and everything will fall into place.

              And who told you that, effective owners will be national Russian? Everything will go west, to their effective thieves. For the concept of an effective owner under capitalism cannot be connected with honesty.
              1. Micex
                -1
                4 September 2013 17: 24
                nuuu, I spoke not only, but rather the other way around - I talked about medium and large business, and not about large and state-owned. or do you think that, for example, a hypromese in Magnitogorsk or a civil project in Chelyabinsk will interest an overseas investor ????? Big business is the prerogative of the state, the strategic interests of the country, and now there (in certain sectors) there has been a tendency to enlarge the state asset. I must say right away that the promised privatization would (judging by the voiced plans) be partial, i.e. the state retained either control or a blocking stake in the enterprise.
                1. 0
                  4 September 2013 17: 28
                  Quote: Micex
                  there has been a tendency towards consolidation of the state asset.


                  http://oko-planet.su/infonfoko/178761-kak-gosudarstvo-taykom-ot-pravitelstva-ver
                  nulo-sebe-control-nad-gazpromom.html
        3. +1
          4 September 2013 18: 29
          Quote: Micex
          I am for toughening laws, but not for 39 years.

          Why 1939? It seems OSOAVIAHIM dispersed in the 37-38th?
          But did not disperse, look, and Hitler would have been hoarded earlier?)).
          Although, history does not know the subjunctive moods)).
    2. +2
      4 September 2013 10: 41
      And suggest something smarter!
  14. -4
    4 September 2013 09: 07
    A giant social upheaval will lead to the need for a new religion. It is already being prepared, it is ecumenism, uniting the foundations of all religions. The war should lead to the complete triumph of those forces that can be called darkness.
    yes, yes, there is only one caveat: Russians can "suddenly" remember their paganism (Vedism in modern terminology) as a counterweight to the new religion soldier

    By the way, one of the predictors had a message on this topic (something about the restoration of the name "Rus" and the ancient solar Faith)
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 11: 44
      on the basis of the uncommented minuses, I’ll assume one thing: the ardent adherents of the Mother Church were pulled up)))
      1. +3
        4 September 2013 11: 58
        Quote: hort
        on the basis of the uncommented minuses, I’ll assume one thing: the ardent adherents of the Mother Church were pulled up)))


        Apparently, contrary to all logic, they are also ardent communists, because I have already cut a minus describing life (true) in Murmansk and the USSR in the 70-80 of the last century. laughing
  15. andruha70
    +1
    4 September 2013 09: 12
    There is evidence that in 1871, Pike wrote to the Italian revolutionary ... World War II was to be organized by the ruling circles of the United States and Great Britain ... World War III should, in accordance with this plan, begin because of the conflict between Islamic countries and Israel .. .
    I have a cognitive dissonance ... belay Did he already know in 1871 about the ruling circles of the United States 30-40gg the next century, and especially about the state of Israel? If all this, he, like nostradamus lol , foresaw, then no plans are needed anymore - everything is going as it should ... in general, something, somewhere does not fit ... what
    1. +1
      4 September 2013 15: 17
      So the trouble is that these Freemason sectarians are developing plans for centuries, and the new US authorities are following them, so it makes sense in the words of the author.
  16. VDV 80-82
    +4
    4 September 2013 09: 13
    USSR-2 unrealizable project, the author lives in the past. Yes, and people can’t be driven into all these restrictions, we all too well remember all the nonsense and gigantic lines for any baida under the USSR. We must proceed from what is at the moment! First of all, to restore the defense industry and urgently need an ideology, that is, an IDEA !!! Without it, we are doomed to drag in the tail. And there will be an IDEA and everything else will follow automatically. IMHO.
    1. +3
      4 September 2013 09: 31
      Do you watch TV? Yesterday, only showed the intention of Armenia to join the customs union. Or is the main name for you - the USSR, and not the content?
    2. +9
      4 September 2013 10: 43
      Not all the time the USSR existed were in line! They appeared closer to perestroika (4 years before).
      1. +4
        4 September 2013 11: 03
        Quote: Evgeniy-111
        Not all the time the USSR existed were in line! They appeared closer to perestroika (years 4 before)

        In Stavropol? May be. And in Murmansk, from the end of the 70s, queues for sausage, in 1980, appeared coupons for butter. Fish disappeared from sale !!! And the same picture is in Arkhangelsk. The shops are empty, but if there is "blat", the refrigerator is clogged. And if there is no "blat"?
        There was both good and bad in the USSR. It is a pity that we did not take everything that was good from there.
        1. +4
          4 September 2013 12: 40
          Quote: chehywed
          In Stavropol? May be. And in Murmansk, since the end of the 70s line for sausage, in 1980 there were coupons for butter. Fish disappeared from the sale !!!


          as I understand it, are you trying to tighten the situation in the cities you have described, throughout the country?

          here in Kazakhstan, in Tselinograd, there was no food shortage until the middle of the 80x.
          and nearby in the city of miners - Karaganda, WAS VAAABSCHE EVERYTHINGup to red and black caviar.

          so don’t get your owl on the globe.
          the USSR had many shortcomings, but the advantages were ORDERED MORE.
          1. 0
            4 September 2013 22: 31
            Quote: Rider
            as I understand it, are you trying to tighten the situation in the cities you have described, throughout the country?


            No, I wrote only about Murmansk and Arkhangelsk

            Quote: Rider
            here in Kazakhstan, in Tselinograd, there was no food shortage until the middle of the 80x.
            and nearby in the city of miners - Karaganda, IT WAS ABOUT ALL, right down to the red and black caviar.


            Immensely happy for the Kazakh SSR in general and Karaganda in particular. About Murmansk, do you have something to say?
            so don’t get your owl on the globe


            Who would say ...
            1. 0
              4 September 2013 23: 43
              Quote: chehywed
              Who would say ..


              so i said
              It was a big union, in each region differently.

              however, here we are talking about a deficit, do you think that the USSR should have been broken up because of the 20 varieties of sausages?
              or are jeans and chewing gum preferable to the best secondary education in the world, and REALLY free medicine?

              Well then, I hope you are happy now.

              USSR - no
              sausages, jeans and chewing gum - just heaps
              but with education and medicine problems.
              1. +1
                5 September 2013 00: 06
                Quote: Rider
                the world's best secondary education, and REALLY free medicine?

                Quote: chehywed
                In the USSR there was both good and bad.It is a pity that we did not take everything that was good.

                If you carefully read the comment, misunderstanding would not have happened.
                And note, not the northern regions destroyed the Union, although life was not sweet.
                1. +1
                  5 September 2013 11: 07
                  Quote: chehywed
                  Quote: chehywed
                  There was both good and bad in the USSR. It is a pity that we did not take everything that was good from there.

                  If you carefully read the comment, misunderstanding would not have happened.


                  Do not worry, I CAREFULLY read your post.
                  that's why he answered.

                  you make the BIGGEST mistake believing that the collapse of the USSR. it is a NATURAL historical pattern.
                  and this is not so.
                  with the departure of the "red project", the alternative of human development based on non-capitalist development disappeared.
                  The USSR carried the spiritual component in the development of love, raised questions about the development of HUMAN with a capital letter (which you so stubbornly deny), in contrast to what we are reaping now
                  it was for this reason that NOTHING GOOD from the USSR COULD BE TAKEN BASICALLY !
                  NOT FOR THIS I DECLINED, to preserve social programs, medicine, education
                  Well, and most importantly, HOPE FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE.
                  no matter how stupid it sounds, but you can write in another way. CONFIDENCE IN TOMORROW, CONFIDENCE IN THE FUTURE OF CHILDREN AND THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
                  that's something from the late 80s to mid-00 I did not meet such confidence (well, unless of course you are not the son of an aligarch or minister)

                  Here I will immediately answer the "dill" posted by you below.
                  you do not believe in the spiritual development of man individually and of mankind in particular, well.
                  as the saying goes "every cricket know your six".
                  already in this alone I see a breakdown in the development of society.
                  what is it striving for?
                  to the third car?
                  to plasma in every room?
                  for an annual vacation on the riviera or majorca?

                  certainly the goals are not the worst, but even so ...

                  I, personally, am absolutely sure that if by the mid-70s had invented some kind of hyperdrive capable of bringing a person to the interplanetary level, then there would be no "reorganization with glasnost".
                  the people at this time, the incentive for progressive movement disappeared, the bar set was not achieved, and the progressive movement changed its vector to confusion and materialism.
                  and then suddenly it turned out that THINGS FOR EVERYONE IS NOT ENOUGH.
                  and if earlier the lack of consumer goods was not critical, then in the conditions when EVERYTHING suddenly wanted everything and all at once, the system failed.
                  I somehow came across economic calculations for the production of the late 80s, there is one and a half, or even double growth, on all counts.
                  but the fact is that the growth of CONSUMPTION soared by ORDER.
                  this is where the legs come from breaking the Soviet system,
                  the truth is now that it turned out that having received the opportunity to change cars like gloves, jewelry, bank accounts and countries for recreation, very few can take advantage of this.


                  somehow like this.

                  quarrel for spelling and punctuation.
              2. +2
                5 September 2013 09: 04
                Quote: Rider
                however, here we are talking about a deficit, do you think that the USSR should have been broken up because of the 20 varieties of sausages?


                If, by the way, about sausage, - the sausage was without sawdust ... And now in stores we have at least what they sell - you can eat by mouth, but then the stomach does not agree :) :(
                Again, sorry, an old joke about a former factory in the city of Prokopyevsk, Kemerovo Region, which produced cheap cigarettes without a Prima filter, a little off topic, shows the quality of Soviet products in comparison with today's:
                Representatives of all world famous cigarettes like Marlboro, etc., gathered. to a meeting to discuss why Prima is such a wild success. They could not understand this at all, they discussed all the marketing laws, promotion, consumer preferences - well, it’s not clear. Finally, they gave the floor to the representative of Prokopyevsk, asked to share the secret of manufacturing. He replied:
                - Yes, there is no secret, put a spoonful of tobacco on a bucket of sawdust ...
                All together:
                - how, you also put tobacco ?!
                :)
    3. +4
      4 September 2013 10: 44
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      in the most urgent need ideology, that is, an IDEA !!!

      Dear Yuri, about the lack of an idea in the state there have already been debates from half a year ago. It was recognized that she was not, but it was necessary. Add another IMHO. Unfortunately, the idea should not only be born not from scratch, but actually supported by something.
      For example, the idea of ​​"equality of wage fraternity" will not work now, even if it is heavily exaggerated. Because society is already stratified, you cannot put it back together, everyone understands that there can be no "brotherhood". This requires a revolution.
      We also do not have equality before the law, and in the current conditions of corruption, there can be no "own people". Everyone encounters this in everyday life, you can't fool anyone.
      The salary is also - everyone understands that it is a fraud, declare the allocation of funds, show on TV that they give the apartments to doctors - but the doctors see their receipts that their salaries have fallen, and some know whose children these apartments are allocated.
      The idea of ​​a strong Russia? Also, everyone sees how little is being done both domestically (listed above + devastation) and at the m / nar level.
      Therefore, until IDEA you can’t even figure out what basis to bring :(
    4. +5
      4 September 2013 12: 36
      Quote: VDV 80-82
      we remember too well all the nonsense and gigantic lines for every bail in the USSR.

      The USSR, in my opinion, is primarily a way of thinking.
      People then did not think about sausage and "any baida". About eternal values, about the Motherland, about home, family, about the world. And all these values ​​were guaranteed by the Soviet state. And not the loot, as it is now.
      And you argue in terms of materialism and the power of money. There was no foolishness, there were distortions because of those who wanted to fill their belly and pocket.
    5. +4
      4 September 2013 15: 23
      Don't you think that these queues created the authorities for the decline and destabilization of a giant, POWERFUL country, eh? All factories worked and factories, but there was NOTHING in the stores, how's that? From TVs to cheese. Everything was rotting and gathering dust in the warehouses. If you remember, there was then the program "Perestroika Searchlight", so there, as they showed huge heaps of uncooked sausage, in some forest, although in stores, it was then a terrible shortage. So, if you say STUPID, then think why and who is responsible for it.
      1. +4
        4 September 2013 15: 47
        Quote: Val_Y
        You don’t think that these lines created the authorities for decline and destabilization


        Yes, there have been such cases.
        I will give an example of washing powder, which in 87
        suddenly became a terrible deficit.
        as it turned out, at that time the factories exceeded the production plan, but almost all the powder was exported.
        And so the TOTAL deficit system was born.
        and what is the tobacco industry worth when THREE of the FOUR tobacco factories stood on unscheduled repair, and the dry law?
        But the FIFTH of budget revenues was generated from revenues for vodka and cigarettes.

        VERY much can be recalled than driving into the people's head dissatisfaction with the current government.
        so the people did not support her when three traitors drunk her dismissed.
  17. 0
    4 September 2013 09: 42
    The article is a "veiled" call for "revolutions" and upheavals. You cannot step into the same river twice, you cannot drag past mistakes into the future. Solutions that work at some time do not work in other conditions. But you need to know the past so as not to "love" the rake.

    The position of Russia, in moral terms, infuriates everyone, both Anglo-Saxons and "Islamists", because neither one nor the other want to negotiate. Syria just turned out to be the country where the economic and political ambitions of all forces converged. No luck - was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    The best answer is a strong Russia, which does not need a far-fetched national idea. You just have to be a Russian and a Citizen. "Blessed is the gentle poet, but the fearless citizen is terrible" - a classic. Give hands to your officials and deputies, at the village, city, region level. Teach your child to work and earn money, respect yourself and others, love and protect nature - your home. Teaching your child - you learn yourself. Everything else - the search for the guilty - a favorite pastime of loafers and politicians.
    1. +3
      4 September 2013 12: 55
      Quote: GrBear
      You just have to be a Russian and a Citizen. Give hands to your officials and deputies, at the village, city, region level. Teach your child to work and earn money, respect yourself and others, love and protect nature - your home. Teaching your child - you learn yourself.

      But have you just not voiced the idea that was promoted in the USSR?
      something like: people brow friend and brother.
      human responsibility to society
      care of a society (state) about a person
      education in a person PERSONALITIES and self-education.

      Did not this propagandize in the USSR?

      so, as you can see, without idiology - nowhere.

      it was the ideology of national superiority that threw 90 million Germans to conquer living space.

      it was the ideology of internationalism that rallied 180 million inhabitants of the USSR and helped break the backbone of the idea of ​​"national superiority"

      it is the idea of ​​"universal equality before Allah" that raises millions of Muslims to fight the whole world.

      it is the idiology of "defending freedom and democracy" that drives the West to drum up dissent into the Stone Age.

      and only the idiology of conspiracy and permissiveness and imaginary freedom (or rather its complete absence) allows people to drink too much, inject, asshole, etc.

      as you see, idiology is present everywhere, even if you deny it.
  18. 0
    4 September 2013 09: 54
    The only way to save Russia and humanity is the USSR-2. Moreover, the USSR is Neostalan, not Khrushchev-Gorbachev.

    Author Samsonov Alexanderand Germany is neo-Hitler? Look at the course of the story. She herself regulates the development of society on Earth. Only a totalitarian USSR was able to crush totalitarian Nazi Germany, then the Soviet Union for another 50 years was a counterweight to the pseudo-democracy of the United States. The USSR fulfilled its mission and left. And the US is not in good shape right now. And the world is changing. There will be something else. There is no return to the past.
    1. +4
      4 September 2013 13: 02
      Quote: chehywed
      The USSR fulfilled its mission and left.


      nonsense, USSR - are gone

      his mission was to educate a man of the future.
      and its withdrawal into deep space, which would set before him (humanity) new horizons and solutions, but at the same time avoided a lack of resources.

      but alas, such an idea is categorically contraindicated to the existing world order (or rather to those people (beings?)).
      1. +1
        5 September 2013 00: 42
        Quote: Rider
        his mission was to educate a man of the future.
        and bringing him into deep space,

        Sasha ... don’t smoke this stuff anymore, laughing
  19. +6
    4 September 2013 09: 55
    Quote: a52333
    GDP spoke about the need for a new idea. In general terms, I agree. USSR- began to gain forch. Yesterday Armenia joined the CU. Oh, Ukraine would be returned, this lost son.

    rather sold daughter !!!
  20. 0
    4 September 2013 10: 22
    "In this war, the Islamic world will be destroyed, and Christianity in Europe will finally collapse."
    - the growth of migrants from Islamic lands in Europe and the humiliation of moral values ​​- this is the destruction of Christianity, which we are now witnessing.
    I just didn’t understand how to destroy the Islamic world, except for nuclear weapons ...
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 13: 05
      Quote: Egen
      I just didn’t understand how to destroy the Islamic world, except for nuclear weapons.


      and you recall the example of the British Empire.
      she has rich experience of this kind.
  21. Ev58
    0
    4 September 2013 10: 22
    First, in my opinion, too much emphasis is placed on the role of Pike. In practice, the author closes the development of the concept of world domination by one person, such a serious role in world history is subject to great doubt. It was nice to hear sweet words about "political will", just how this statement relates to real political, economic and social actions, and, if any, how effective and efficient they are, mainly in relation to the Russians, as the indigenous population of Russia (Russia )? If you wish, you can find in the speeches of Putin and Medvedev the words that Russia is a multinational state. It's right. Only where, in which document (and the Constitution of the Russian Federation as well) does it say that the indigenous population of Russia are Russians? The national question cannot be outside politics. What leads to the unity of the ethnos of such a multinational country? Borders? - No. Common goals? - No. Common Economic Space? - No. Now about the main thing: besides slogans and words, there must be a real concept and development plan. There is no need to look far for examples - the so-called. "restructuring". "Everyone - for self-financing and self-sufficiency", "glasnost", "democracy", "The main thing is to start. And the process will go!" Where are the real programs for the development of the country's economy, where are the concrete steps in the social sphere? And nowhere. The main task is to destroy what hindered in order to build another, acceptable for the directors and scriptwriters of this action, another model of society and the state. And therefore: articles (and even with chronological errors. About Israel, for example), like this, in fact - about nothing, but for everyone. What are these articles for? To form a certain way of thinking for readers, excite the reactions of the individual (interethnic hatred, for example, rejection of something, someone), while the author can sincerely believe in the correctness of his point of view, which, alas, is subjective.
    1. +4
      4 September 2013 10: 29
      Quote: ev58
      articles (and even with chronological errors. About Israel, for example) like this, in fact - about nothing, but for everyone. What are such articles for? For the formation of a certain way of thinking of readers, the stimulation of individual reactions (ethnic hatred, for example, rejection of something, someone), the author can sincerely believe in the correctness of his point of view, which, alas, is subjective


      I agree with you hi , not only ethnic hatred, but a patriotic upsurge; - but so on this forum here and exists - for discussion
      1. +3
        4 September 2013 13: 09
        Quote: Egen
        I agree with you


        I am with you.

        nobody canceled the information war.

        not for nothing that the Bolsheviks carried out the policy of universal education, and during training, people were presented with the NEED concept.
        1. Vlad 1965
          +3
          4 September 2013 15: 38
          The Bolsheviks were not afraid to teach the people, but the liberals and all this compradorism, the nouveau riche, are terribly afraid of the literate population, and this makes crazy reform in education, cattle, easier to manage.
          1. +1
            4 September 2013 17: 27
            Quote: Vlad 1965
            The Bolsheviks were not afraid to teach the people,


            simply because they had no competitors.
            that they drive into the head of the masses, then the masses and perceive as truth.
            I’m not saying that it’s bad, in the end, the ideas turned out to be true and in demand.

            Now the situation is different, everyone is literate, and on the network you can find any information, but nouveau compradorism in every possible way the population is trying to lower the level of CONSCIOUSNESS, and at the same time to finish off the remnants of Soviet education.
            recently attacked the Academy of Sciences.

            there, as they recently announced that they do not need engineers, mechanics, etc., but "creative" specialties.
            but simply mediocrity.
            1. Vlad 1965
              +1
              4 September 2013 17: 59
              Rider
              Quote: Rider
              Quote: Vlad 1965
              The Bolsheviks were not afraid to teach the people,


              simply because they had no competitors.
              that they drive into the head of the masses, then the masses and perceive as truth.
              I’m not saying that it’s bad, in the end, the ideas turned out to be true and in demand.

              Now the situation is different, everyone is literate, and on the network you can find any information, but nouveau compradorism in every possible way the population is trying to lower the level of CONSCIOUSNESS, and at the same time to finish off the remnants of Soviet education.
              recently attacked the Academy of Sciences.

              there, as they recently announced that they do not need engineers, mechanics, etc., but "creative" specialties.
              but simply mediocrity.

              Yes, it is. The daughter is studying in Stavropol, as they prepare, they need to drive all these rectors-associate professors with the job of a single hair dryer.
              practice, the child went through ... in Soviet times, for such a practice, the leadership would have warmed up, and after all the screams, experts are needed .. Where to get them, if they’re doing it right now, they don’t cook anything at the exit, except for a couple of three really working university?
              Again, in the buy-sell system, it cannot be otherwise.
              reaping the fruits of collective madness 90, so little is it now all the same are preparing the same, with the reincarnation of EBNONA-Navalny ..
  22. 1st_user
    -2
    4 September 2013 10: 40
    The main points of the demographic program should be: the elimination of abortion, with the exception of medical indicators;

    Those. is a woman who wants to have an abortion actually offered to bribe a doctor so that he writes the necessary "medical indicator" for the money?
    I am a realist, and besides what is happening in our country I know. And I know not by hearsay that any ban is a transfer to the "underground" and corruption.
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 13: 15
      Quote: 1st_user
      I'm realist,


      I also

      in Russia ANNUALLY held around Eight thousand revolutions!

      eight hundred thousand children killed and their children.

      how to raise demography and country?

      it is clear that not only the ban on abortion, but also social policy must be present.
      help with many children, housing training, etc., etc.

      BUT GETTING STARTED!
      the benefit with maternity capital things went uphill.
      1. 1st_user
        +1
        4 September 2013 19: 13
        I wanted to say that it is not necessary to stop the abortion itself, but the DESIRE TO MAKE an abortion. These are different things.
        1. -2
          4 September 2013 19: 26
          Quote: 1st_user
          I wanted to say that it is not necessary to stop the abortion itself, but the DESIRE TO MAKE an abortion.


          if it were still possible to ban the desire for uncontrolled copulation.
    2. +4
      4 September 2013 16: 19
      Quote: 1st_user
      Those. a woman who wishes to have an abortion is actually offered to give a bribe to a doctor

      Those who have decided ironically will give a bribe, but those who doubt will tend to be born. Moreover, "liquidation" is not a "prohibition", and implies:
      - the elimination of depraved lifestyle;
      - confidence in a stable future;
      - improving the health of the population.
  23. +4
    4 September 2013 10: 53
    Quote: hort
    Pale of Settlement - is it a residence permit?

    No, this is not a residence permit, it’s when for example a certain group of people is ordered to live in a specified area and a ban on living in another
    Quote: GrBear
    The best answer is a strong Russia that does not need a far-fetched national idea

    The national idea, ideology is the way of development of society, it must, figuratively speaking, "go upward", ie. a society united by this idea will improve, develop, moving progress, science, education, and so on. Rejecting the idea, you propose an extensive path, almost standing still, while other countries tend to develop on the contrary, when the goal is not defined for society, it is not clear where it is moving and whether it is going the right way and whether it is going anywhere at all, this leads to the disunity of society , which is sometimes used by certain circles, unfortunately
    1. 0
      4 September 2013 16: 27
      Quote: saag
      when for example a certain group of people is ordered to live in a specified area and a ban on living in another

      Why is it necessary to prohibit and enforce by force? You just need to create conditions, or eliminate the factors that encourage migrants. With all other conditions being equal, it is difficult to abandon relatives and seek happiness in a foreign land, the need pushes.
  24. +5
    4 September 2013 11: 02
    The only way to save Russia and humanity is the USSR-2. Moreover, the USSR is Neostalan, not Khrushchev-Gorbachev. The recipes are quite simple, there is nothing complicated in them. Only political will is needed. Everything was already under comrade Stalin. Domestic: the complete elimination of the "fifth column" and the thieves' layer, such as Chubais and Serdyukov.

    Everything is right, it is necessary, but the hedonists will have to be tight, but people who care about the meaning of life for this will feel sick from the way of life that is being instilled in us. Only those who do not have anything superfluous (cottages in Bulgaria, cars, trousers, accounts with foreign banks) will defend their country, but they have everything they need, a house, a family, work, children are attached.
    Those who grabbed for 10 lives will not fight, why grabbed, but suddenly they kill and then others will spend his money, but it’s easier for them to strangle themselves with such a thought.
  25. +4
    4 September 2013 11: 02
    The article is good, puts it on the shelves, raises questions, but does not offer specific options for people. Foreign policy, unification, etc. - this is all clear and good, but what about the people and in particular the members of the forum? The article does not answer the question of how the people can protect themselves from the indicated dangers of the impending "bandit" war. Under existing conditions, the reliability of the state is small.
    More than that.
    IMHO, the leadership of our state, as well as any other, is rushing between two fires.
    On the 1 hand, yes, it is necessary to make changes on the m / nar and the internal arena, as the author wrote. But for this you need to rely on the support of the people. And here, from the second side, the "top" of this very people is afraid.
    If you think about it, what could be the most effective measure to protect the population and wage war against bandits in cities and beyond? IMHO organization of self-defense units in different forms, from DND to Cossacks. And for this, rightly, you need to arm the people. An armed, united people is strength. But our state and others are always afraid to give the people arms, so as not to turn against them. Because the vectors of the people and the top are always different. I am not a lawyer, I have not studied the history of state and law, the only exception comes to mind - Sparta :)
    Therefore, there should be an initiative from below on the arming of the people, perhaps self-educated squads, in the framework of laws, you can probably think of loopholes.
    1. +2
      4 September 2013 16: 38
      Quote: Egen
      The article is good, put on the shelves, raises questions, but - does not offer specific options for people. Foreign policy, association, etc. - this is all clear and good, but what about the people and, in particular, the forum users?

      Forum users are the reception and comprehension of information. The teams are already self-forming, but not with knives and machine guns, but in social networks, movements, parties. Armed with information and a methodology for understanding what is happening. Each person is already in his place and before doing anything, writing, saying at work and at home, let him think: in terms of what concept will be the result of his actions.
      1. +1
        5 September 2013 09: 08
        Quote: Petrix
        The teams are already self-forming, but not with knives and machine guns, but in social networks, movements, parties. Armed with information and a methodology for understanding what is happening.

        Dear Aleksey, for many this is a long-passed stage here, for most it is the business of the coming months. It's time to go to the machines :)
    2. Ev58
      0
      5 September 2013 15: 41
      Today the special services have all the necessary resources, means, experience and capabilities for organizing and staging any "performance" according to any scenario they have thought out. Despite any humiliation, hardships and negative phenomena in our country, I will never say anything bad about my homeland. I do not want bloodshed, civil strife and internal slaughter of fellow citizens. And who, in fact, are our politicians, leaders, rulers of various countries, kings and queens? They are the visible part of the iceberg, since the global pyramid network is outside the state, outside their control. The president, the king, the ruler takes a loan from banks at an interest rate to implement a global (or local) project. It is foolish and unreasonable to blame all the blame for your troubles and the troubles of your people only on the Jews. "Where were you?" - you can ask each of us. The media do their job perfectly, popularizing the necessary system of values, the required civic position, forming a person of the “right type” - the one needed by this system.
  26. +4
    4 September 2013 11: 05
    Article RESPECT!
  27. Mitiai
    -2
    4 September 2013 11: 10
    Yes, here we can at least obmaguhizirovatsya, even with the collective mind to come up with a super correct state, but all this will remain the letters. In our country, everything is simple to disgrace. To change something you need:
    1. The current head of the Lospet - (Nikolay 2, Gorbachev)
    2. a man to the ugliness thirsting for power, possessing the gift to lead the vast masses and taking all responsibility on himself. (We Russians are seething for everyone, if only we would not be the extreme)))) - (Lenin or, at worst, Yeltsin)
    and now we and the authorities are not lospet, no matter how we throw it with kakakhi and there is really no ACKNOWLEDGE to replace it.
  28. 0
    4 September 2013 11: 12
    Quote: Egen
    . Armed close-knit people are power. But our state and others are always afraid to give weapons to the people

    And he does the right thing, because as practice shows with injuries, weapons become an argument in a dispute and the armed people are not united in any way, because it is not clear around what they suddenly rallied, the question "who is more important" will also be decided with the help of weapons, there is such a structural unit - the army is called, who lives by the charter with its own discipline and traditions
  29. Asan Ata
    +8
    4 September 2013 11: 31
    All wrong. I do not believe in the genius of the United States. I believe in their greed. The goal is world control through disorder, not order. They are thinking of staying there in America, while it is blazing here.
    The CIA created a non-state army to destroy states and created a scheme to destroy the country. Rebellion, bribery of officials for inaction or assistance to the "revolution", the infiltration of militants, foreign oppression in defense of democracy, the supply of weapons. Remember Iraq, where the military was bribed to lay down their arms. Where are they now, where are their families, are they happy? Do you think this can happen in Russia? Yes. The fault is corruption, which made the bulk of people immoral.
    And further. The collapse of the country begins in the minds, as Professor Preobrazhensky wisely remarked. A country in which a peasant does not have a head in a family, one can get rich only by theft and meanness, justice is a product of bribery - has no prospects.
    Ideology was the strongest component of the power of the USSR. The ideology of equality, fraternity, love of the motherland. I think neither Armata, nor the T-50, nor other weapons in itself are at war, and if it is controlled by a scoundrel, then they are krants.
    1. 0
      4 September 2013 16: 44
      Quote: Asan Ata
      They are thinking of staying there in America, while it is blazing here.

      Well, not really like that:
      http://kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-sostavlyayuschih-jizni-obschestva/zdorov
      e-cheloveka-orujie-genocida / 4113-metastases-gulf-14-6
    2. +1
      5 September 2013 00: 29
      Asan Ata KZ Yesterday, 11:31

      All wrong. I do not believe in the genius of the United States. I believe in their greed. The goal is world control through disorder, not order. They are thinking of staying there in America, while it is blazing here.
      The CIA created a non-state army to destroy states and created a scheme for the collapse of the country. ...
      And more. The collapse of the country begins in the minds, as Professor Preobrazhensky wisely noted. ...

      Good evening, dear Asan Ata!
      I agree with your citation ... "Headache as the primary cause of defeat."

      - Maybe it still makes sense to return to the idea of ​​SOCIALISM with the correction and implementation of ALL GOOD AND RESULTING METHODS and the rejection of ineffective or creating nomenclature, climbing up over his people, instead of being part of the people and accountable to him.

      I personally do not see any other idea !?

      Regarding Orthodoxy, here I think the question is twofold.
      - The CLEAN AND SINCERE FAITH IN THE SHOWER itself helps a person in difficult times and leads him along an honest path! They could go on for many more centuries.
      - But I am against the heads of the Russian clergy who have grown fat and drowning in luxury, who do not have enough fingers for expensive rings and expensive cars! Their one "greasy look" in anyone, even a deeply religious person, completely discourages the desire to come to church to pray. Although throughout Scripture, we read that Jesus preached MODESTY and other godly traits of being and "false priests" were expelled from the temples.

      In any case, we have a lot of good things to PUT TO create a new USSR-2 from our old Union.
  30. +1
    4 September 2013 11: 40
    The article is unambiguous +. It is possible to develop something, but that's all in essence.
  31. +5
    4 September 2013 12: 08
    How will the crowds of ordinary people behave when there is no water, electricity, heating, food?

    But to hell with you, we have all the products in the garden, and heating in the forest and a river are nearby. laughing
  32. +1
    4 September 2013 12: 21
    Article plus. But I consider the USSR-2 project half measures. The only antidote to Western European corruption is Orthodoxy. On this basis, it is necessary to build a RUSSIAN state. And when we Russians will be strong, we and the other peoples of Russia will be able to consolidate around us.
    1. 0
      4 September 2013 16: 47
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      The only antidote to Western European corruption is Orthodoxy.

      Orthodoxy is based on the Bible. Where are the Russian roots in the Bible?
  33. +2
    4 September 2013 12: 54
    Putin will immediately bang, only he will give a hint about it. This option is possible only when there is an immediate military threat to us and when all the liberals shed for the cordon, fearing for their lives, money or asses. And as for Orthodoxy in the USSR2, only if the church identifies itself as the Russian religion, and did not come to the lands of barbarians, as our main priest says.
  34. +2
    4 September 2013 13: 19
    One can argue about nuances, this is normal. The most important thing at the end of the article about the "golden mean" is really, either we or us ...
    1. 0
      4 September 2013 16: 55
      The golden mean is what results from the global historical process. The maturation of civilization before the tasks associated with spacewalk. The USSR did not ripen, and Soviet people, having won the Second World War, calmed down early. Now we have to rely on the experience of the USSR to build its already corrected version.
  35. +2
    4 September 2013 14: 49
    I think that Putin does not understand everything. We (Russia) are actively arming ourselves and creating all kinds of blocks for the future (from the TS to BRICU), the program was designed until 2020. The ideological and theoretical foundations of society (USSR-2 Kuaginyan, Izborsk Club) are also actively sought, public opinion is formed for the imperial turn of Russian society. It's just that we are weak this hour, which is why we are flirting with the West.
  36. +2
    4 September 2013 14: 59
    The president does everything possible: food independence; rearmament of the army.
    We must also do what is feasible: not to consume swill, which is aggressively advertised; monitor the health and properly educate your children.
  37. +2
    4 September 2013 15: 56
    Article plus, this option for the development of the USSR2 is better than everything against everyone ...
  38. drewlanin
    0
    4 September 2013 17: 18
    in the long run, the west is moving in this direction, a new threat is clearly visible in the form of creating a new Fuhrer for Russia and not only well, but our main object of all these actions lately has been called our Siberia, which in the future will be the most suitable territory for the population to live after rebuilding the planet !!!
  39. -2
    4 September 2013 18: 12
    It seems that the author used something very strong before writing the article, nonsense and nonsense. Regular conspiracy theories.
  40. 0
    4 September 2013 18: 33
    Quote: ctepx
    Quote: Micex
    I am for toughening laws, but not for 39 years.

    Why 1939? It seems OSOAVIAHIM dispersed in the 37-38th?
    But did not disperse, look, and Hitler would have been hoarded earlier?)).

    Although, history does not know the subjunctive moods)).
  41. Romario_Omsk
    0
    4 September 2013 18: 47
    "either we ..." I made a choice for myself, sharpened the dagger, I sit - I'm waiting for ov))))
  42. patriot2
    +1
    4 September 2013 20: 08
    Here you go! I read the opinions of members of the forum, and realized that there were no indifferent.
    Thanks to Alexey for the article - I agree with your opinion.
    Russia's mission in this world is to rally the peoples around the Russian nation as brothers and sisters.
    The goal of the USSR-2 is great and is not limited only to the small desires of man - this goal, something that was not created during the USSR-1 - is the construction of an evolving progressive system of human development without violence and blood against its members (the creation of genuine, not fictitious communism), which would exclude the exploitation of man by man.
    That's just the way this is very difficult in the current conditions of confrontation and the struggle of elites for power.
  43. igorelo
    +1
    4 September 2013 21: 15
    Black humor ?! But seriously, I would like to avoid a war. It’s especially a pity the Muslim brothers whom America destroys. But our main task is to preserve our native Orthodoxy.
  44. wassabi
    +1
    4 September 2013 21: 56
    100 pounds I support the author, right now the chaos is happening such that Mom do not cry !!!
  45. EdwardTich68
    -1
    4 September 2013 22: 02
    An article in the style of conspiracy theory, some Masons are confused, although this is something. For example, Kerensky was a freemason, and in 1941 the Americans told Stalin that if the USSR surrenders, then in the USA
    created the Russian government in exile, led by Kerensky. As you can see, although he was a Freemason, he served only as a spare figure. This world is far from being ruled by Masons. As for Islam, there is no world
    not a single developed Islamic country, it (Islam) attracts only the narrow-minded, underdeveloped neophytes and in essence there is modernized Judaism in a obscurantist-medieval form. It is a shock force of the Western oligarchy only where there is no political will to suppress or destroy it. Relatively nuclear war between the west and Russia - I doubt it very much, because this is suicide
    not only for civilization as a whole, but also for specific people directly involved in this action as well as for members of their families and the world and everything connected with it. Yes and no, there are now antagonistic contradictions for such a step. The population of the planet can be reduced naturally, for example, China. I believe that the reason for the impending chaos is only in the immense egoism and irresponsibility of the oligarchy, the lack of will and irresponsibility of most national leaders, the helplessness and ignorance and irresponsibility of the world’s population, against the backdrop of the impending crisis of confidence in the US dollar, which, as the foundation, still holds the world's economy.
  46. baytygan
    +1
    4 September 2013 22: 29
    the people are waiting for a new Stalin, like the Messiah Jews. I think he was already born ...
  47. +1
    4 September 2013 22: 32
    I read the first part and Thanks to the author for a broad look in the second. The strength of Russia in the province, and while it is, there are people capable of the miracles of heroism and labor. The army and navy are our allies, and the people of the Russian province are our treasure
  48. 0
    4 September 2013 22: 50
    The liquidation of national republics and autonomies, with the preservation of cultural autonomy - I completely agree with this !!!
  49. 0
    4 September 2013 22: 55
    Late, 25 years late. There is no time left to solve the tasks set by the author. The only way out is a big Sunito-Shiite war, it is desirable to draw the Jews in, it sounds disgusting, but there is no other way out, it's too late.
  50. mihasik
    +2
    4 September 2013 23: 04
    The beginning of the strike on Syria can be considered the starting point of the beginning of the Third World War. How sad it is. I am based on the ability of our sworn "partners" to arrange provocations leading to the outbreak of wars. I do not exclude the option that US specialists will ditch their own destroyer or submarine, like the twin towers in 2011, and accuse us of a missile (or torpedo) strike. Ours need to VERY try to protect Syria and not get caught in provocations.
  51. 0
    4 September 2013 23: 12
    Quote: mihasik
    like the twin towers in 2011

    How?! Again?! laughing
  52. mihasik
    +2
    5 September 2013 01: 13
    Well, it has already begun! The head of the Pentagon accused Russia of supplying chemical weapons to Syria...http://top.rbc.ru/politics/04/09/2013/874877.shtml
  53. Backfire
    0
    5 September 2013 03: 27
    The second world war was to be organized by the ruling circles of the United States and Great Britain, through the manipulation of German nationalists and Zionists (the connection between Zionism and Nazism can be read in the book of N. Starikov "Who made Hitler attack Stalin"). The war was supposed to lead to the destruction of Germany and the creation of a Jewish state in Palestine.

    Author - you either didn’t read Starikov carefully or didn’t understand what you read.
    He shows quite convincingly that Hitler is a coincidence of circumstances and he was “put on the board” when it became clear that adjustments had to be made to the Plan.

    Only when it became clear that the “red project” was finally getting out of their control was the project in Germany activated, which became known to the world as National Socialism and Hitler was at its head. But this was an impromptu attempt to “even out the skid”; with Russia everything should have worked out the first time - along with the destruction of the Russian state and the demolition of its elites.

    Thus, what we know as the 2nd World War is an impromptu, as paradoxical as it may sound.
    No one could have planned or foreseen this, let alone in the 19th century, even during that period of history that we call the 1st World War.
    From here comes your whole thesis about the “three world wars” predicted and oh my God! even planned a century and a half before German tanks rumbled along the roads of Europe.

    And just to note, as soon as someone starts talking about some kind of World War, with the serial number 1st, 2nd, 3rd or a proper name, for example, “Cold War” - this fact alone means total, complete lack of understanding of what is happening.

    The struggle for World Domination is, has been, and will ALWAYS be waged. This struggle, confrontation, Global Poker - whatever you want, it is a continuous process, and it goes on continuously, every moment and will not stop as long as people are alive.

    And what the overwhelming majority of the population calls, for example, the 1st or 2nd World War is just a stage when the confrontation enters an acute phase, nothing more.
  54. +1
    5 September 2013 11: 02
    You can dream as much as you like about recreating the Empire or the USSR-2 (as you wish), but without a common idea this is not possible. You need an idea, that's the main thing. As they say, “if only there were bones, the meat would grow.” I personally believe that at the moment, besides Orthodoxy, there is no other possible idea that unites the people.
    For those who every time try to say that this is a religion alien to us, sent by the Jews, I will say that I don’t know where and how Orthodoxy came to us. Over hundreds of years this religion has become ours. Our ancestors defended their homeland by carrying this faith within them. Even during the Second World War, millions of soldiers wore crosses, albeit secretly. My grandfathers, who fought in the Second World War, went to the front with their mothers and wives wearing crosses.
    It is not for nothing that after 17 the Jews directed all their hatred towards the destruction and desecration of Orthodox shrines. The village was purposefully harassed by the main bearer of Orthodoxy.
    By the way, during difficult times during the Second World War, Stalin brought the patriarch closer to himself and began to return churches. The "atheist" closed the newspaper.
    1. 0
      5 September 2013 11: 27
      Quote: NeSvyatoy
      You need an idea, that's the main thing. As they say, “if only there were bones, the meat would grow.” I personally believe that at the moment, in addition to Orthodoxy,


      I agree about the "idea"
      I don’t agree about Orthodoxy

      the fact is that Orthodoxy is, first of all, SPIRITUALITY, and only then FAITH.

      an idea is what a person (people/society) needs at the moment.
      roughly speaking, ideas come and go, but SPIRITUALITY/FAITH should always remain.

      In my opinion, you can’t come up with a better idea than “IPERIA”.
      This project, as they say, is FOR CENTURIES.
  55. hitman87
    0
    5 September 2013 14: 20
    inclusion of the Baltic states in its sphere of influence - Lord, when already?!
  56. D_L
    D_L
    0
    7 September 2013 15: 06
    Eh, old man West, you've gone too far too far. Apparently the West will soon fall to pieces.
  57. Rubik
    -2
    7 September 2013 19: 25
    The article was written by Goebbels' heirs.