Military Review

The system is completely unbalanced

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The task of the Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces is to seek to correct the situation


On June 14, 2013, the State Duma held a meeting of the "round table" of the Communist Party faction on the topic "The state of combat readiness of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation." In the opinion of the former chief of the Main Directorate of the Ground Forces, who delivered the keynote speech, the unique historical the ability to make cardinal adjustments to the military system.

Any change, any attempt to increase the combat capability of the Armed Forces will always rest on the problems of increasing their number and extending their service life.

If you have the slightest desire to change the management structure, revive the high command departments of the Armed Forces, increase the number of military districts, create some kind of independent inspection or headquarters of combat training in the form in which it was, we will always stumble upon this fence, since the new ministry accepted the number million for granted. Therefore, we have the Ground Forces of 395 thousand in number, at which any opportunity to accumulate the prepared mobilization resources is lost. At the same time all the time trying to increase the proportion of contractors. But as soon as the number of contract employees is brought to 50 – 60 percent, our mobilization work will be ruined.

Every six months, 50 percent personnel changes. We finished a single training - you need to go to the elements of combat coordination in the composition of the units: crew, platoon, company, battalion, brigade, and everyone left. Found a loophole - to increase the number of contractors. But every year exactly as many contract servicemen run away from the army as they come.

Blind copying

No conditions have been created to interest servicemen for contract service. Is it possible for a family man to exist on 30 thousands? Why do Americans have 11 people for one vacancy? Because there the contractor serves to accumulate start-up capital for later life.

We have a contractor receives 30 thousand rubles and eats them all. He will leave the army, having lost his health, he will not acquire any profession "in the civilian world" and no one will need him at all.

The situation is no better with the sergeant staff. Determined the number of officers - 15 percent, which corresponds to the American system. But they have an average of five to six sergeants for each officer, who are prepared no worse than the officers. The American sergeant is provided with a service growth. Moreover, at each intermediate stage of formation in a new position, he takes a training course for six to eight weeks. In our country, Makarov invented the month of 34 to teach the sergeant that he would receive almost officer education and then his whole adult life would be a castle platoon - no more. Yes, he will hang himself after three years in this position and will never serve there.

We copy everything from Americans in a perverted form, including operational-strategic command. Of the six American operational-strategic commands, four are outside the national territory. In Germany, South Korea, the Hawaiian Islands and Japan, the Americans use ready-made groups of troops that supply them with the commanders of the armed forces. They deal only with the application. For the training of troops, their support - for all the main commands are responsible. No one will ever strike any blows across the territory of America, no one - this is the geopolitical position of the Americans. We, on our land, have the only task - to protect the territorial integrity of our country.

Creating groups of troops ahead of time, predict the military-political situation, determine where the threat to peace comes from. And pre-empt, create groups of troops in these areas and the control system.

But all the time we are starting to form a management system when the roast rooster bites, instead of working on it in good time in peacetime. In the enforcement period, she should no longer undergo any adjustments. As soon as the movements begin, changes in command posts, controls, structure, control is lost one hundred percent.

Why disgrace the president?

In February, Tsalikov, Deputy Minister of Defense, said that this year they will fully pay off the arrears on apartments. He recently announced quite different numbers. The problem of providing housing for military personnel will never be solved until the state is connected to this. Why was it solved in the Soviet Union? Because 10 percent of the construction complex, no matter what department was built, was given to servicemen. And the timing was completely different.

The system is completely unbalancedInitiatives other than populist, ended. Students must serve - this is such nonsense. In the short term, we are still waiting for stagnation, the same as it was under Serdyukov. We will tread on the ground, come up with different ideas that slightly brighten the reality and calm the average person. For example, came up with a system of checks. The media is simply ecstatic. A sudden rise in alarm, a withdrawal to a new, unplanned area, and so on — all this is really an effective way to check the state of combat readiness of the Armed Forces, everything was practiced in the Soviet period. But you need to prepare for this in advance, a large team should time out the actions of subordinates, and then generalize and study everything, and not just raise an alarm.

This method of verification in this form is not so much effective as it is convenient for management to manipulate public opinion. What a response: the president raised in alarm some kind of anti-aircraft missile brigade of the Space Forces and airplanes. And they show a company or a battery, shouting: “Anxiety, anxiety!”. What anxiety? Anxiety is announced only when some degree of alertness is introduced, when there is a military danger. For this degree of readiness, a number of specific activities are performed. And here we have seen what picture? Soldiers ran out weapon not allowed. Then they were built by some officer who, like a piano in the bushes, “accidentally” turned up there and commanded: “To the right. Readiness number 1. " The philistine is delighted. But we have 20 – 30 millions of military personnel who served in the army. Why do they disgrace the president?

Recently, the media admired our aviation: we have, they say, a fifth-generation fighter. Yes, even the tenth. It seems that if the fighter makes a cobra or a candle, it will be nice to spin around the enemy aircraft. War in the air has long been waged outside the zone of contact with each other. And we have both missiles and guidance systems that are worthless. With GLONASS we have been suffering for 20 years. Where do we get the guidance system from? Nobody talks about this, and it seems that everything is fine and we are again a cut above all, as in football.

General Staff taxis troops

The General Staff categorically does not want to abandon the daily leadership of the troops. Its main task is to develop plans for the use of the Armed Forces plus mobilization work. But the General Staff is constantly striving to steer troops, is engaged in functions and tasks unrelated to it: form, parades, discipline ... Having taken away all the regulatory functions from the Supreme Command of the Armed Forces, the General Staff will fill everything up, because it was not created for this purpose.

In all civilized countries, the High Command are engaged in the construction and development of their own kind of armed forces. And if something new happened in military science, if the form and property of military operations change, changes are made in the organizational structure. New types of weapons and military equipment appear - new states are introduced.

For example, in the Main Command of the Ground Forces there should be a third institute that examines the armament system and every year presents conclusions about what needs to be ordered in industry.

The MLRS "Hyacinth", "Smerch" can hit the enemy at a distance of up to 70 kilometers, and means of intelligence can be seen in the mountains for one to three kilometers, on level ground - to 10 kilometers. 60 kilometers, the launch of which accounts for the greatest funds, are not implemented.

The system is unbalanced completely. The task of the commander in chief is to achieve this balance. If the commander in chief cannot influence the allocation of budget allocations, we will always have an unbalanced weapon system of any type of aircraft. Industrialists are interested in producing means of destruction. It is expensive, profitable and easy. Industry never takes on the control system of intelligence and radar combat, since these are high-tech areas. We have a paradoxical situation, when the commanders of the district forces are not subordinate to the commanders of the Armed Forces. They do not affect the state of affairs in the troops, the budget, the formation of state defense orders, the development of weapons and military equipment. Developers submit to people who do not bear any responsibility.

The structure of the Armed Forces should be a specific person who is responsible for the state of this type of Armed Forces and is engaged in their construction, development and training. And let the General Staff be engaged in the use of groups.

My country is wide

On the vast territory there are four military districts. Under these conditions it is impossible to solve the whole range of tasks in a particular period in a particular period. If the district commander had transferred one brigade from the Far East to the west, he would be convinced that there is no rolling stock, that the railway in the form in which it is located is not capable of anything, and the VOSO service will not provide rolling stock, because its eliminated. And we will never manage without inter-theater transfers, because we have practically no forces and means left and we need to move all the time.

The 29 Army is stationed in Chita, it has one brigade per 3000 kilometers of front. The Chinese will never find it. Two wars need to be finished to at least face it.

At a minimum, it is necessary to restore the Siberian and Moscow military districts. Wars have always come to us from the west. How not to have a governing body, a full-fledged front-line troops? Someone came up with a clever idea: why are they in each district? Let them be in directions. There are four strategic directions in the west: the northwest, the west, the southwest, and the south. Where should the brigade commander act? What exercises should it be? Yes, he is crazy about such a service.

We had six districts and in each - front-line unification. For the front of the union is characterized by the presence of the front complex of the armed forces, special forces. These are one or two missile brigades, one or two artillery brigades, or even divisions. In the Turkestan district, we had two artillery divisions, now this is nothing. The technical support system was eliminated. It is not known who will deal with the restoration of military equipment and weapons. As such, it simply does not exist.

Our country, so large and large, does not have a backup component. Formally, we have seven bases for storage and repair of equipment, which allegedly will be deployed for wartime by an additional seven brigades. But no one takes into account the mobilization resources. Cut the military department in universities, dried up the flow of reserve officers. No basic investment deployment. Where, where to get weapons?

In the Soviet Union, we kept ammunition for three months of war in the troops and in stocks, because we knew that in three months the industry, according to mobilization plans, would fully switch to the plans for the current year.

Recruitment offices destroyed. We have today 83 military commissar. In all regions of the Federation, the military commissar was the head of the territorial defense zone. In some subjects it was the only military official. Now all military commissars civil. Who will be engaged in territorial defense? Who will put under the gun? Who is putting these units together?

And finally, on issues of social protection. All this talk that everyone is happy and that pensions for military retirees have been increased several times is heresy. The pension of the colonel with 20-year service - 15 thousand rubles. Lt. Col. - about 12 thousands. Major - 7 thousand rubles. An officer who serves in the army thinks all the time that when he retires he will become poor, naked, naked, without medical care, and it’s not known where to live. Nobody needed and abandoned.

I often have to meet with veterans in parts. They come untidy, toothless, uncut, in shabby uniforms. Better anti-advertising can not imagine. The officer looks at them and sees what his prospect is, what a bright future awaits him.

An officer after military service cannot be in such a forgotten, abandoned state, without an apartment, without housing. This undermines the very foundation of military service. Therefore, no one wants to serve.
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  1. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 11 July 2013 09: 05 New
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    Sucks you guys ...
    1. soldat1945
      soldat1945 11 July 2013 09: 35 New
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      Don’t worry about our problems and we will solve them, in the article I agree with everything except pension pensions, my company foreman quit with 15 calendars and 21 years of benefits his pension is 12500, the colonel receives about 22 tr, and the rest the most interesting thing is that everyone understands that it is necessary to return part of the Soviet system, but then to the billions of Serdyukov will be added the responsibility of the authorities for the lack of a systematic approach and, in fact, the betrayal of Russia, and no one wants to take on such responsibility, but the divisions slowly returning, so that with God's help everything will be fine.
      1. little man
        little man 11 July 2013 11: 33 New
        +2
        Yes, with pensions he got excited. A fly in the ointment in such a wonderful article.
    2. kris
      kris 11 July 2013 09: 56 New
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      Quote: kotdavin4i
      Sucks you guys ..

      Putin said that everything is fine with us!
      Do not believe your eyes and ears, believe the leader of the nation!
      laughing laughing laughing
      1. Arberes
        Arberes 11 July 2013 10: 41 New
        +9
        Quote: kris
        Putin said that everything is fine with us!

        Looking at this photo it comes to my mind for some reason that’s such a phrase.
        The president’s thought about the people “What else would they promise?”
    3. Hunghuz
      Hunghuz 11 July 2013 10: 32 New
      +3
      hi And the chief Marshal Taburetkin bought the gold and bullion ..........)))
    4. dustycat
      dustycat 11 July 2013 11: 51 New
      +2
      So in Russia it is always like this with us - before the situation normalizes, it must become worse nowhere.
      1. vadimN
        vadimN 11 July 2013 12: 16 New
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        Quote: dustycat
        So in Russia it is always like this with us - before the situation normalizes, it must become worse nowhere.


        There is such an old managerial wisdom: "If you want to make a person good - do him bad, then return it as it was, and the person will be infinitely grateful and glad to you!"
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    5. Jin
      Jin 11 July 2013 12: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      Sucks you guys ...


      Well, here they are, the results of the "reform" ...
    6. T-100
      T-100 11 July 2013 13: 36 New
      +3
      The 29 Army is stationed in Chita, it has one brigade per 3000 kilometers of front. The Chinese will never find it. Two wars need to be finished to at least face it.

      Yeah, sadly, of course, but this phrase generally killed !!!!
    7. Simon
      Simon 11 July 2013 13: 37 New
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      And you, which is better? Wherever you come, there’s nothing to do, but you cannot fight without toilet paper. And our Russian soldier emerged victorious from any situation.
      1. kotdavin4i
        kotdavin4i 11 July 2013 13: 44 New
        +3
        I’m not from where the flags show, I’m much closer, and from the time I graduated from college, I’ve been accustomed with a leaf of burdock ... So I’m mine, from neighboring countries. Just the size of pensions is really low (if this is true) ... hi
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    9. Alexander borey
      Alexander borey 11 July 2013 14: 07 New
      -1
      Do you guys have to watch everything I believe? A complete idyll, in short. The article is ten years old, and it does not deserve serious consideration. Well, put me the cons quickly, otherwise I'll leave! laughing
  2. pensioner
    pensioner 11 July 2013 09: 05 New
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    On June 14, 2013, the State Duma held a meeting of the "round table" of the Communist Party faction on the topic "The state of combat readiness of the Ground Forces of the Russian Federation."
    My grandfather. Head of the secret operational department of the lips of the Cheka. Father is a mining engineer and fiery communist. But when I look at the modern members of the Communist Party faction, I don’t see the Communists !! They are anyone, but not communists !! If they could be transferred to the year that way at least in 1949 ... I don’t even speak about early ...
    1. My address
      My address 11 July 2013 09: 51 New
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      Good afternoon, Yuri!
      I am proud that the father of the party committee's proposals for the delivery of a party card for statements was asking one thing so that the return ticket would be accepted by the person who served in the Second World War. He also knew many true communists. And the current Communist deputies in the majority ... and ... Sent proposals to the factions of the new Duma and GDP. Only from the last came "thanks". And si behavior? I did not want to make a company for elections to the Duma on the "achievements" of DAM, the chairman of the EP.
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 11 July 2013 10: 23 New
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        Good afternoon, Alexander! I am very annoyed by the possibility that anyone who is not lazy can talk about any of the most pressing problems of society. Even those who have no moral right to do so.
        Legal have. Moreover, party factions should do this. But! Please, be kind then already have SUCH names of your parties that would fully correspond to your real and not declared activities and your contingent. If this news began with the words:On June 14, 2013, the State Duma held a meeting of the “round table” of the faction of the “Converts of the Bourgeois” faction on the topic “The state of combat readiness of the Russian Ground Forces - I wouldn’t say a word against.
        1. cdrt
          cdrt 11 July 2013 14: 05 New
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          The key thing that I saw in the article was to give more posts: Siberian Military District, Moscow Military District, and High Command.

          If the article was written by a man from the Air Force, he probably would have demanded that the Air Force be allocated from the USC ...
          Well, and who needs these heterogeneous groups, it was good.
          There are districts, there are commanders, there are General Staffs and so on up to the level of districts.
          All are satisfied, the posts of the sea.

          It is also better to serve in cropped units, where in fact the majority of the officers served, than in the CPG.

          Ogarkov gobbled up, now Baluevsky’s ideas are trying to chew.
      2. military
        military 11 July 2013 13: 30 New
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        Quote: My address
        I sent proposals to the factions of the new Duma and GDP. Only from the last came "thank you"

        I suppose that it came not from the "last", but from the government autobot ...
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 11 July 2013 11: 54 New
      +5
      Duc is still in the first election of Beni Zyuganovich said that they are businessmen.
      What questions!?
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    4. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 12 July 2013 00: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: retired
      But when I look at the modern members of the Communist Party faction, I don’t see the Communists !! They are anyone, but not communists !! If they could be transferred to the year that way at least in 1949 ... I don’t even speak about early ...


      HERE! therefore, I’m principally and not going to the polls anyway there are simply no real communists there !!! and they will choose Putin there without me))
  3. NickitaDembelnulsa
    NickitaDembelnulsa 11 July 2013 09: 07 New
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    The little article smacks of pessimism.
    1. Vorchun
      Vorchun 11 July 2013 10: 11 New
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      This is not pessimism, this is the cry of the soul!
      1. My address
        My address 11 July 2013 10: 56 New
        +9
        And not only the cry of the soul. This is a simple negative feedback, which in human society is called criticism and self-criticism. A complex system without this connection stops in development or goes into a dressing. Of course, the critic does not like it, but without it it will be worse.
        1. NickitaDembelnulsa
          NickitaDembelnulsa 11 July 2013 11: 03 New
          +2
          Well, too much criticism here. There are few positive points. Although there is a great deal of truth in the article: as it is and how it will be
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    2. Alexander borey
      Alexander borey 11 July 2013 14: 10 New
      -3
      It doesn’t smell of stink of pessimism and obvious provocation from the article.
  4. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 11 July 2013 09: 08 New
    +9
    The Russian army was stuck somewhere in the 20th century, there is nothing worse than half measures undertaken by the government, do you want to make the army a contract? So, first create the conditions for this. You look at the top army ranks, you just don’t know how to cry or laugh, more than half the old people are swimming in fat, are they capable of such a feeling that the German army invading us from the past, sample 22.06.41 They will again reach Moscow, if not further to Vladivostok like a knife through butter, and this will be done under deafening applause from the west.
    1. olegff68
      olegff68 11 July 2013 09: 39 New
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      Quote: Standard Oil
      Russian army stuck somewhere in the 20th century

      You are mistaken !!! At 19m, or even earlier !!!
      In the RA, until now, instead of training in competent shooting, physical training, and mastering modern technology and tactics, soldiers and cadets are marching drill for hundreds of hours, as if tomorrow they will have to with boxes of peaks to restrain the onslaught of the cutting cavalry.
      With the generals - that's right !!! With rare exceptions, all "hereditary" military ie "thieves." Nothing has changed since Port Arthur. The rank of General should be given only to those who in real (combat) conditions have proved their leadership abilities !!!
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 11 July 2013 09: 58 New
        +9
        So this is all the "Tricky Plan" of the General Staff, you have not heard the words of Einstein about the Fourth World?

        "I don’t know what weapons the Third World War will be in, but the Fourth will use sticks and stones."
        Our soldiers are preparing for the fourth world war. I hope I have not revealed military secrets for the NSA?
        1. kris
          kris 11 July 2013 10: 12 New
          +9
          Quote: Standard Oil
          So this is all the "Tricky Plan" of the General Staff

          Your words reminded me of a quote from the movie "DMB":
          So we won all the wars. While the enemy is drawing an offensive map, we change landscapes, moreover, manually. When the time comes for an attack, the enemy is lost in an unfamiliar area and comes into complete sky readiness. This is the point, this is our strategy!
        2. dustycat
          dustycat 11 July 2013 11: 59 New
          +2
          But the wash is not in the know ....
          From how it is ...
          Avona how far our military science has looked ... lol
      2. Airman
        Airman 11 July 2013 11: 43 New
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        Quote: olegff68

        You are mistaken !!! At 19m, or even earlier !!!
        In the RA, until now, instead of training in competent shooting, physical training, and mastering modern technology and tactics, soldiers and cadets are marching drill for hundreds of hours, as if tomorrow they will have to with boxes of peaks to restrain the onslaught of the cutting cavalry.
        With the generals - that's right !!! With rare exceptions, all "hereditary" military ie "thieves." Nothing has changed since Port Arthur. The rank of General should be given only to those who in real (combat) conditions have proved their leadership abilities !!!


        Since 1991, we have disarmed forces, and they are still very far from the ARMED. We rejoice in the arrival of each aircraft, each boat, each anti-aircraft missile battery, and we understand that these receipts are scanty. Morally, technology ages faster than it develops its resource. 4 counties is not the scale for our HUGE distances. Military enlistment offices became Grazhkomats, let's call a spade a spade.
      3. xan
        xan 11 July 2013 12: 10 New
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        Quote: olegff68
        With the generals - that's right !!! With rare exceptions, all "hereditary" military ie "thieves." Nothing has changed since Port Arthur. The rank of General should be given only to those who in real (combat) conditions have proved their leadership abilities !!!

        I don’t remember how folding Solzhenitsyn was on August 14th, the general should not be a novice in command and control, the general should be an exceptional professional, and since he sends people to death, he should not tremble for his life and be ready to die without hesitation. Strongly doubt that our generals are consistent. I personally knew one rear admiral, he couldn’t, and hardly ever could.
      4. cdrt
        cdrt 11 July 2013 14: 09 New
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        That's actually +100500.
        Only I would have started with the colonel or even the lieutenant colonel for combined arms. Only successful (!) Participation in the database is the guarantee of colonel epaulettes, or even of lieutenant colonel.
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 11 July 2013 11: 57 New
      +3
      It’s even more accurate where exactly in the 1960s
      Because there is nothing newer than the 1960s developments in our army.
  5. smel
    smel 11 July 2013 09: 09 New
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    Article of a competent and responsible person. It is a pity that all this is not necessary for anyone except veterans of the sun. We can add that this is far from all the problems.
    1. user
      user 11 July 2013 14: 04 New
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      Review done competently
      Well truth and pessimism over the edge
      Although time will show whether there are so many
  6. Smersh
    Smersh 11 July 2013 09: 11 New
    +3
    Yes, so far it’s not very ... But let's hope that in the near future everything will start to change, if you try hard.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 11 July 2013 11: 38 New
      +1
      And who, in fact, should "try"? recourse
  7. serge-68-68
    serge-68-68 11 July 2013 09: 14 New
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    We have many systems out of balance ... Education, healthcare, industry. And without the "balancing" of these three, a balanced and modern army can be safely forgotten. Understanding the size of possible critical remarks, I’ll nevertheless suppose, as a temporary solution, that nuclear weapons and missile defense should be developed, along the way stating that with ANY act of aggression against the Russian Federation, this nuclear weapon itself, under the protection of this missile defense, will fall on the aggressor’s head. And to direct the saved funds to balancing the basic industries of any society and state. Yes! And shoot corrupt officials (in extreme cases - hang)
    1. Sea snake
      Sea snake 11 July 2013 11: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: serge-68-68
      Yes! And shoot corrupt officials (in extreme cases - hang)

      Why so scatter ... this is wonderful biomaterial. Give them to the military laboratory as experimental ... let them at least benefit!
      And the death penalty for crimes against the country and the people, for actual betrayal, must be returned. We all look back at pedro-Europe ... and the most important "peacekeepers" and "democratizers" haven’t canceled the electric chair.

    2. Airman
      Airman 11 July 2013 13: 29 New
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      Quote: serge-68-68
      We have many systems out of balance ... Education, healthcare, industry. And without the "balancing" of these three, a balanced and modern army can be safely forgotten. Understanding the size of possible critical remarks, I’ll nevertheless suppose, as a temporary solution, that nuclear weapons and missile defense should be developed, along the way stating that with ANY act of aggression against the Russian Federation, this nuclear weapon itself, under the protection of this missile defense, will fall on the aggressor’s head. And to direct the saved funds to balancing the basic industries of any society and state. Yes! And shoot corrupt officials (in extreme cases - hang)


      Armed forces cannot be one-armed!
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  9. My address
    My address 11 July 2013 09: 34 New
    +5
    And like us in all areas. One bright spot - yesterday's article here about the Belgorod region.

    GDP end up with populism cutting ribbons and work. First, bring to its simple - WORKING OF KIND OF CONGESTION.
    1. dustycat
      dustycat 11 July 2013 12: 03 New
      +2
      Did he plant his molded friends and let him in his miter ?!
      Yes, you really ...
      Some kind of animals ... Such a suggestion ...

      laughing
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 11 July 2013 14: 29 New
        +1
        He is not a supporter of GDP even once, but he has repeatedly mentioned that one of his idols is Lee Kwan Yu.
        He was also a dictator, well, or a strongly authoritarian leader, but! when he started the fight against corruption, he completed it. He even planted old trusted colleagues in his party.
        I think the GDP has the strength to go for it.
        Moreover, there is a hope that he himself now works more for the future than for his own pocket / thirst for power.
        Those. a Bismarck-type figure rather than a BNE.
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  11. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 11 July 2013 09: 38 New
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    In the original source, interesting opinions in the comments. bully
  12. ole
    ole 11 July 2013 10: 09 New
    +8
    The fact that the mob’s resource is destroyed is visible and the layman shows how the warehouses with property are optimized, the number in even the active units is incomplete 2/3 of the declared, the current landing and missile personnel.
  13. dropout
    dropout 11 July 2013 10: 17 New
    0
    Isn’t it really that bad?
    1. creak
      creak 11 July 2013 11: 01 New
      +6
      As they say, if you think that everything is going well, it means that you don’t know something. The author knows the problem thoroughly since he headed the General Staff of the Ground Forces of the country. And headquarters is the brain of the army. It's easier to close your eyes and repeat like mantras:
      everything is well beautiful marquise ... instead of an impartial, objective analysis of the state of the Armed Forces which has never been done. Let's be honest, Serdyukov was also applauded at first ...
      Replacing footcloths with socks and turning shoulder straps on is not the most important thing. It is hard to believe that he is able to solve a lot of accumulated problems - first EMERCOM, then the governor, now the Minister of Defense, maybe he is talented, but not to the same extent. .It is necessary to stop shy away from side to side - from brigade divisions, now the reverse process is planned, etc. It is time to entrust the construction of the army to the professionals who fortunately have remained with us. As Grandfather Krylov said: "The trouble is that the cake will start to stitch the boots." By the way, in my opinion, Shoigu did not serve in the army at all, and the Ministry of Emergencies is not the army .. I myself am an officer, a war veteran.
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 11 July 2013 14: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: ranger
        The author knows the problem thoroughly since he headed the General Staff of the Ground Forces of the country.

        And what did such a high-ranking author do in his former place to change the existing system? Has he issued directives and orders on "every possible increase in combat readiness"? Specifically, what? But nothing. He sat quietly, breathing evenly. They all, as soon as they turn, begin to howl about a mess in the army, and while they are serving, they themselves support this mess and multiply with their stupid instructions. Checks are also sent systematically. To monitor the execution of orders. And now - he received his sight !!! A great miracle, he spoke, but they did not listen to him! For the "chair" he held on to his own, this is my opinion.
    2. dustycat
      dustycat 11 July 2013 12: 05 New
      +3
      How to say...
      To say that reality is even worse is about saying "the atomic bomb has quietly blumbled."
      1. Airman
        Airman 11 July 2013 13: 25 New
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        Quote: dustycat
        How to say...
        To say that reality is even worse is about saying "the atomic bomb has quietly blumbled."

        In order to understand what we are ... well, it is enough to compare the division staff with the brigade staff, and the army staff with all units with the current army. Playing mobility, they (stools) lost power. And you need to start with the restoration of mob.resources. But how at 41 we will call for militia of people who did not hold weapons in their hands, and drive them to slaughter. You can’t step on the rake twice. In Afghanistan, Americans with the most modern technology have to get out, although the Taliban do not.
  14. leon-iv
    leon-iv 11 July 2013 10: 33 New
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    Oh, as always, only the Communist Party knows how to save the nation rukalitzo.zhpg
    11 people per place is MIGRANTS who want citizenship.
  15. starmos
    starmos 11 July 2013 10: 34 New
    +4
    And what is our geocint? Self-propelled guns know. And in general, until from our Armed Forces they cease to do explicit window dressing to satisfy the obese generals, our soldiers in a rigged "die" on the parade ground until the demobilization
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 11 July 2013 11: 43 New
      +1
      Shopopets, dear! Of our armed forces they do what politicians order, and not what the generals want. This is clear? While the state does not care about protecting the country, the soldiers will "die" on the parade ground.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 11 July 2013 15: 01 New
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        Well, actually it should be so.
        The army is not an end in itself, and not the habitat of the generals, but an instrument of politics.
        "... War is too serious a matter to trust its military ..." W. Churchill

        Another question is that politicians also do not know what to do with the country.
        Only the last 2-3 years, probably, Russia has slowly begun to take the place that is still customary for RI - an extremely conservative state-guardian of traditions and established order.
        Those. for the first time in politics, an understanding of our place in the world, goals, strategies, etc.

        The Russian Federation is a "conservative" who wants to maintain control over the former empire of the USSR / RI; state interests include protecting the interests of the state. and large private monopolies (Gazprom, Rosneft, etc.).

        The main challenges (military) are Islamism, the spread of US influence in Central Asia and the former. USSR, counteracting the spread of US influence in the Greater Middle East.
        The main probable conflicts are wars in the former empire, with limitrophs (moreover, if the limitrophes are members of NATO, then the wars must be “defensive,” that is, “they attacked us” (and moreover, everyone should think so, and not just us wink ) and lightning fast so that the conflict does not “warm up” before the entry of major players).
        The main means of blocking the intentions of more serious players (USA, NATO, China) to radically change the situation - deterrence by forces of strategic nuclear forces, missile defense, air defense.

        Actually, this is the whole structure of the Armed Forces and should be built up. But ... such clarity is the result of the last 2-3 years.
  16. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 11 July 2013 11: 27 New
    +8
    Much hren.enovo! In the 60s of the last century, the communication system TRRL "North" was built at the multi-channel tropospheric stations "Horizon".
    She was tied to the Far East of the Union and the regions of the Far North.
    Accordingly, all military units had a full-fledged connection. In the mid-90s, the system was modernized and could work for many more years, but ...
    In 2003, the last station was closed. On some of the most significant stations, the antennas were destroyed, that is, that it could not be restored!
    Communication allegedly transferred to satellites.
    Well, the latest data - the military has left this system, the stations are no longer served by the Moscow Region. What do you call it?
    That's it, finish!
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 11 July 2013 15: 02 New
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      Question (without malice) - and satellite channels did not solve this problem?
  17. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 11 July 2013 11: 38 New
    -6
    As expected, the article cultivates decadent moods that are not welcome, to put it mildly. The author had to show such zeal when he was in the post of Commander-in-Chief of SV. After all, it was then that our troops in the North Caucasus suffered one of the greatest losses. And now it has "seen" when our army is really reborn from the ashes. The article looks like low-grade ordering. The author does not even know that the Hyacinth is an SPG, not an MLRS. Any first-year cadet knows this. What kind of copyright professionalism can we talk about? fool
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 11 July 2013 12: 06 New
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      Quote: Alexander Borey
      Any freshman cadet knows this.

      Which school, curious? belay
      1. Alexander borey
        Alexander borey 11 July 2013 12: 44 New
        -1
        Any military school.
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 11 July 2013 15: 07 New
        +1
        In principle, such things are known to anyone who has read at least half an hour on the internet about Russian artillery.
        However, the general most likely just swallowed part of the phrase, I wanted to say MLRS, self-propelled guns Genocide winkbut said without part of the phrase.
        This is the case with retired military personnel, and it’s just that elderly people often do - thought is ahead of words, counts on understanding of the audience, and in this case in vain wink .
  18. IRBIS
    IRBIS 11 July 2013 11: 44 New
    +3
    I agree, but not really. And the author’s data is already “ancient”. About pensions - he did not think and did not ask, they are much higher than those indicated. And got excited with anxiety. There is no big sense when everyone knows about the “sudden alarm at five in the morning tomorrow”, and apart from laughter, such inspections did not cause anything else. Well and the most important thing. The problems are bare. Where are the suggestions of the specialist, whom the author is (or thinks that he is) to address them, or at least the course of action in the current conditions? Or was it the "cry of the soul" of a general who had lost his general position and everything that was attached to it? And what did he personally do in his place before to solve these problems? Cheerfully reported to the higher command about the achieved "success"?
    And we are all masters of criticism ...
  19. varov14
    varov14 11 July 2013 12: 18 New
    +4
    The article dispelled all my doubts - we really are deep ... and all these military exhibitions are sheer profanity, ordinary noodles on the ears of the population, so that they can sleep peacefully until the next "completely unforeseen" conflict. One bad thing, "cannon fodder" in the country is becoming smaller and thus properly can not, and even afraid to take advantage. Then they will curse that they did not train in time to hold a weapon in their hands. The state for the benefit of the population should not go on about the same population, to serve the holy duty of everyone and not for a year. It seems that we are simply betrayed by our beloved authorities, hiding under the laws of service that are very pleasing to us.
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  21. Fin
    Fin 11 July 2013 12: 41 New
    +2
    Correctly written except for pensions. The command and control system and mobilization leave much to be desired. Because of this, the Second World War nearly lost.
    Quote: IRBIS
    Where are the suggestions of the specialist, whom the author is (or thinks that he is) to address them, or at least the course of action in the current conditions?

    And his proposals are the commander in chief, who will be directly involved in the construction of their kind.
  22. evil hamster
    evil hamster 11 July 2013 13: 02 New
    -3
    The article is stupid profanity and crying are Yaroslavl - which is what was expected from the event organized by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - slogans, lies, slogans, lies ... well, gentlemen, we don’t have Com in our country. Party - Remnant of Nominclature Starpers Remained
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 11 July 2013 13: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: evil hamster
      The article is stupid profanity and crying are Yaroslavl - which is what was expected from the event organized by the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - slogans, lies, slogans, lies ... well, gentlemen, we don’t have Com in our country. Party - Remnant of Nominclature Starpers Remained

      The rodent is right, to hell with these old-timers, long live our beloved president of VV Putin, his deeply thought-out military strategy. Sorry for the failure with Taburetkin.
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 11 July 2013 15: 18 New
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        Taburetkin completed the task - dismantled the remnants of the death of the SA.
        On the one hand, tens of thousands of officers serving all their lives in cropped units, with thousands of units that will never be mobilized, with pilots flying 10 hours a year.
        On the other, with traditions.
        Whether it’s good or bad, he completed the task.
        From this point of view, by the way, the break in the recruitment of cadets to schools is a symbolic one - a clear watershed for generations.

        Naturally followed the fashion - contractors / outsourcing.
        Naturally stupid (this is apparently a national thing for us - blindly copy, and not fit into oneself).
        Theft naturally blossomed (although ... the military used to steal, now the civilians; the military are small, but there are tens of thousands, the civilians are many, but there are tens / hundreds of them).

        Makarov - tried to create the RA (and not revive the SA). Again it turned out how it happened.
        Now we need not to try to recreate the SA - it still will not work (the SA died after the USSR), but to create, in fact, from scratch the RA.
  23. Grigorich 1962
    Grigorich 1962 11 July 2013 13: 37 New
    +1
    if you plunge into the history of service in the Soviet and then the Russian army, then we always had it ... a little better ... a little worse ...... life does not end with retirement ... but for many it is just beginning .
  24. ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 11 July 2013 13: 37 New
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    The comrade probably wants to draft 5 million people into the army and pay 100 thousand to everyone and give them around the apartment. It would be interesting to ask him where he would gather so many people and where he would get the money from. The author Yuri Bukreev put together everything in the world and probably considers himself a specialist in all fields. Talking with your tongue - do not roll bags. Something the Communists turned into talkers, although they probably have been like that for the past 40 years.
    1. Alexander borey
      Alexander borey 11 July 2013 14: 25 New
      -1
      He’s the same communist as I am a capitalist. I apologize for the pun. bully
      1. ovgorskiy
        ovgorskiy 12 July 2013 09: 26 New
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        June 14, 2013 in the State Duma, a meeting of the "round table" of the Communist Party faction
        This is from the article.
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 11 July 2013 15: 30 New
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      + 100500.
      He (the general) cannot think in any other way - his whole life passed just with that attitude.
      It’s better not to ask the military about money — they have a standard phrase: if you don’t want to feed your army, you will feed someone else’s.
      And the fact that you can feed your own, but less than what the military wants, is already perceived as a betrayal.
      By the way, this is with the military of all countries of the world - you do not give the extra billion, you want to defeat your country wink
  25. Mikhail m
    Mikhail m 11 July 2013 13: 45 New
    +1
    The amount of the pension, ceteris paribus, depends on the date the pension was granted. Indexation of pensions is made in smaller amounts than salaries. Forgive the author for a minor inaccuracy, the rest of the article is wonderful. One who could influence the state of the sun would read it.
  26. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 11 July 2013 14: 17 New
    -1
    I’m worried about one thing. We have enough soap for all the ropes, so that after such a “wonderful article” we know what? The general has nostalgia for lost posts and a clear resentment, he writes rashly that he didn’t get there, and then a whole controversy was lit up with cheap photographs and fragments of the full-time DMB film, which should be banned altogether.
  27. ksan
    ksan 11 July 2013 14: 20 New
    +3
    He set the article as a minus, although there is a lot of truth in it. And a minus for the general “tone” Was the change of leadership made because of corruption alone? The leadership was replaced due to poor leadership of the organization, the construction of the army in the first place. Yes, there are many problems, but where was this strategist when he was in a high position? holding on to a chair? And that everything became bad only as it was "gone"? Yes, and with pensions and apartments, "not quite true." And the officers, after most civilian universities, to put it mildly, none. In general, to become a propaganda in the style of "all bad guards," instead of doing and achieving the best in their place. Or did the head of the Main Directorate of the Ground Forces not have such an opportunity? Or was he afraid to open his mouth? and also reported that "everything is going according to plan"? And now, when I was out of office, I immediately began to cut the uterus. Our biggest problem - IMHO - is poor command and control of the troops and lack of responsibility (fear of responsibility). The generals are full and the hostilities begin - the "left hand" does one thing, the "right" another, and the "head" still thinks what these "hands" should do.
  28. Alexander borey
    Alexander borey 11 July 2013 14: 42 New
    -1
    Instead of tearing my shirt here to prove my point of view, I suggest everyone who wants to check the information presented in this article in other sources, preferably several. And suddenly a “miracle happens” - 90% of what is written is real bullshit, jaundice. just opens.) I have the honor! bully soldier
  29. Russ69
    Russ69 11 July 2013 14: 49 New
    0
    In the article, although problems are indicated, there are too many emotions. And the main thing is not any constructive, how and what to fix. The general phrase will return, as it was in the USSR, so this is also not a panacea.
  30. Brummbar
    Brummbar 11 July 2013 15: 00 New
    +1
    The article is correct, I hope to draw conclusions and fix everything. But take a look at how the trolls perked up. Do not rejoice ahead of time.
  31. tank64rus
    tank64rus 11 July 2013 15: 51 New
    +1
    The article has a lot of truth about the current state of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. After Serdyukov, no one expected anything else except the most gifted. They dispersed military science and high schools no one took any responsibility. Now they are trying to plug the hole with "scientific mouths", let's see what happens. And so in many ways.
  32. Ram chandra
    Ram chandra 11 July 2013 16: 07 New
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  33. Svatdevostator
    Svatdevostator 11 July 2013 21: 38 New
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    Quote: man
    Yes, with pensions he got excited. A fly in the ointment in such a wonderful article.

    Balobol next where he took such pensions, our foreman retired 20 years of calendars receives 22 thousand. How much then the pension at the battalion commander ???
  34. Egevich
    Egevich 12 July 2013 00: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: cdrt
    + 100500.
    He (the general) cannot think in any other way - his whole life passed just with that attitude.
    It’s better not to ask the military about money — they have a standard phrase: if you don’t want to feed your army, you will feed someone else’s.
    And the fact that you can feed your own, but less than what the military wants, is already perceived as a betrayal.
    By the way, this is with the military of all countries of the world - you do not give the extra billion, you want to defeat your country wink


    LISTEN ... the military wants to be guaranteed to win any war and guaranteed to save your and your lives ... and if you need to, then give yours for you ... the military knows better (without irony) what and how and how much .. ... but who will give something to do as it should? ... and you are talking about money ... it became unpleasant from your words ... put a minus ... damn how unpleasant it is to read
  35. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 12 July 2013 00: 50 New
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    I’m reading right now, it’s scary it really becomes really really so bad ((I certainly suspected that things were going very smoothly, but all the same I hoped that everything was not so sad recourse (I don’t have anything against Shoigu) but all the same it’s strange why everything is also stubbornly all the time request
  36. Valerich
    Valerich 12 July 2013 10: 15 New
    +2
    Lord! unfortunately about pensions and are right and wrong, that's all !!! The size of the pension depends very much on the length of service! For example, I, as a lieutenant colonel with a length of service of 21 years and dismissed from the OSH, from the captain’s position and from the 15th rank (since I had previously gone through the OSH to reduce both ranks and ranks in the VP), I receive a pension of only 13301 rubles with copecks. So do not kick the author about ignorance of pension cases.