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Syria has no land for us!

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As recently as June 18, an article “Syrian trap". In general, I liked the idea, but I would like to clarify something, expand and modify it ... I ask the creator of this article in advance to forgive me for eternal arrogance. Alas, modesty in our time is not a virtue at all. If you want to win - learn to kick open the door to the office of the chief. Such a felt retreat. It is a proverb, and the tale, as usual, is ahead ...


Syrian on the ruins of the city of Aleppo. Source: The Atlantic


Premature conclusions

Already in the Western media, Putin is unwittingly praised, recognizing his victory in this battle (meaning the heated debate around Syria at the meeting of the G8 leaders in Northern Ireland). But believe us, it's too early for us to rejoice!

I was always called grumpy, not for years. Let it be so. For the "dashing 90-e", putting an end to the Union, and Russia put upside down, you know, used to question everything. In my deep conviction, what happened in Northern Ireland is just a bite of a robbed Europeans with an “American” (I am writing this word in quotes, because there is no such nation). The bite, of course, was painful, but, alas, not something that is not fatal, but not even sobering. The leader of our state managed to save face, without succumbing to either persuasion or threats.

But how many times did the Russian leadership seemingly consistently oppose NATO itself? I can list: Serbia, Iraq, Libya. The case of Serbia is generally special. Our country then condemned the policy of the alliance, despite the fact that the traitor and killer of the Russian people Borka was bloody in power (I would never call this creature any other way!). Even he did not dare to remain silent at that moment and verbally supported the Serbian brothers. Apparently, he was afraid of the wrath of his own people.

But the words and all limited. However, we didn’t protect Serbia, Iraq or Libya in fact (Abkhazia and South Ossetia are a separate song, because these lands are near our borders, they are a separate conversation). Therefore, it is extremely important that today our participation once again does not limit itself to beautiful words.

We have taken the side of Syria, and we are great. And now the most difficult thing is to defend it! And why, in fact, we have Syria? First of all, let's not fool ourselves. Syrian Arabs are not our brotherly people, and we don’t precisely baptize children with them. I can not say that I am delighted with Bashar al-Assad. But here, let's distract a little ... And compare Barack Obama, as NATO leader, who proposes, in fact, to destroy another independent country, and the leader of the Syrian people, who are trying to protect their people (for now, from thugs, mercenaries, but the future is also possible from those who “bring democracy to the world”). Even such a superficial comparison of their goals is already tilting the scales not in the direction of the “American.”
If you go a little deeper, opening at least “Wikipedia”, we learn that Assad has a diploma of an ophthalmologist (a humane profession, by the way, and he took her seriously seriously). In addition, when the elder brother died, Bashar learned that he inherited the power of his father, he returned without hesitation to Syria (and in fact he could remain in the west and not take control over the far from the easiest state). So he, understanding that the leader is, first of all, a defender of his people, he also graduated from the military academy, and did not serve in the headquarters, but in the most real command posts. In other words, a person consciously prepared to lead the country, to be with it, as they say, in grief and in joy.

And Obama? - Another graduate lawyer from Columbaria (I’m so daring to call Columbia University, for a very low opinion of American education) and Harvard in the appendage. Next - the beaten track of future puppets from the White House (I hope you don’t have to explain why puppets?): Illinois state senator and president (God, how I hate this foul foreign word when we already understand what’s wrong to call the person who heads Russia ?!). In other words, Obama was well aware that he would come to the White House on 4 or, if lucky, on 8 years, and then pass the country on like a baton.

And now weigh it: on the one hand, the leader, for whom his country is his life, and on the other, a person who is just doing a certain job (everything else is temporary). Well, forgive me, I took it very far in the direction, I just really want my compatriots not to be likened to “miracles” from oxfords, harvards, Cambridge, princeons and other yaley, but would think more deeply and more often.

In any case, this is not the main thing for us now. Russia is not so much on the side of Syria, as opposed to the States and NATO. Syria has become for us an unwitting friend, since it is soon - the enemy of our enemy. And now they are getting close to the most important thing. It is very important for us to do everything possible and impossible, so that Asad could hold out because next in line ... TRANSNESTER!

It is no coincidence that Moldovans are in such a hurry to the EU, they hope that Brussels will “help them to bring order to order” the recalcitrant left bank of the Dniester. And how can Brussels "help"? - Yes, we all know! Asking Washington to intervene. In essence, the EU is the same NATO country, only without its “commander” of the USA. You can still make such a comparison - in Washington, sits the "president of NATO", and in Brussels - the "parliament" of "presidents" and "kings-kings" with a lower rank.

And Transnistria is even worse than Abkhazia and South Ossetia, because the majority of the inhabitants of this region are Russian people! In order to avoid unnecessary foolish questions, I repeat: Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians are the ONLY RUSSIAN PEOPLE. And here Russia will have to protect our people in an open war with NATO troops. Are we ready? - Obviously, not yet.

So, Syria is not just our companion in misfortune, it is the last frontier of Russia outside our land. Someone has already read my article (also on the “Military Review”) about a Chinese soldier standing on “Chinese” land. Remember i'm there an example of stories cited? About the leader of the people of the Huns, Shanyu Mode and his confrontation with the nomadic Dunhu. For those who did not read, this very Mode led his warriors to fight for a seemingly empty and insignificant piece of land. Consider that Syria has become such a “scrap” for us now.

Yes, God be with him, with Mode! Syria, if you will, is our Krasnaya Polyana, which is far from Moscow, our Stalingrad, which is far from the Volga. And nowhere to retreat! How can Russia not allow Syria to repeat the fate of Serbia, Iraq and Libya? How?! - Yes, just by doing something that in all the above cases could, but did not (or did not want). Well, seriously, there are two types of measures: diplomatic (together with economic) and military. Let's start with the first ...

The first. Putin, if he wants to win, should be today, right now, looking for allies among other countries that are ready to take the side of Syria. One against seven - of course, worthy of all respect, but doomed to failure. In his place, I would only have returned to Moscow from Belfast (the capital of Northern Ireland), I would have sent an emergency meeting invitation to those who could in this difficult task become our supporters. To whom? - And what, for China, is it not an opportunity to shake the "world hegemon"? Where China is, and there is the DPRK, they will be happy at all, which is also not alone now. Iran is also, of course (he is interested in continuing cooperation with us in the nuclear industry). Well, Latin America, why forget? - Venezuela will support (good, Maduro won there) and Cuba (well, why not?). How many counted? - That's right, already six of us against seven, so in fact there is Syria itself. That, seven-on-seven, silushki already almost equal.

Just do not call me an idiot now, which does not take into account the technical equipment of the NATO armies and us, together with possible allies. - I consider everything! In addition to the United States, Britain and the German Bundeswehr, all the others can not be taken into account! And remember that even the not very smart Angela Merkel had enough brains to participate in this venture to give up in advance. And Cameron and his generals attacked Cameron, they say, where are you going ?! So, our position in terms of weight at the international level will be about the same.

The second. In the case of ANY attempt to directly or indirectly attack Syria (by indirect request, please understand the preparation of the next stream of thugs from all edges and the supply weapons to the enemies of Assad), no confused protests - the immediate expulsion of all NATO representatives from Russia. And by all means agree in advance with future allies to do the same on the same day. After the warning that the next step will be a break in diplomatic relations with ALL countries that have accepted (again, directly and indirectly).

By the way, even Borka-bloody decided to go for a complete break with NATO, when they treacherously attacked Serbia. True, he shouted and soon "brought everything back to normal". Immediately make a reservation, if this time we have to expel the "NATO members", then they can NEVER return them already!

Third. I am sure that this will not come to that, just in case. If NATO does not stop even after the expulsion of its representatives from our country and from allied countries, make a promise and break diplomatic relations! Expel embassies, consulates, representative offices - all, in short.
And so that “life does not seem to them as honey,” add the third measure to the fourth economic measure. Europe gas cut off! In 2008, we went to this only for a couple of days so that Ukraine would stop stealing our gas, remember? And what then howl rose. Yes, Ukraine itself, its "patrons", figuratively speaking, "was knocked under the table." I repeat, the probability of third and fourth measures is one against 999!

But! Possible and the fifth measure. Moreover, it can be resorted to, dropping the third and fourth. Together with the allies, condemning NATO and, above all, the United States at the headquarters of the United Nations. Make it extremely loud, forgetting such concepts as "decency" and "dipethet". Not the case! When the fate of the Motherland is decided about all there "indecently uncivilized" to think simply CRIMINALLY !!! It is not a sin to ask the same Vladimir Wolfovich Eidelstein (known to everyone as Zhirinovsky) to conduct several lessons for our representatives who are going to New York. I have no doubt he will be honored.

In fact, it would be good for all the states that I called here our possible allies in the fight against the United States and NATO, in general, to declare that the UN has completely exhausted itself! And it is time to dissolve it, starting to create a new international organization. Naturally, the headquarters of this new organization should not be in New York at all, but on land owned by a state that does not interfere in anything and does not join any military blocs. Light wedge not converged on Europe and North America! - Why not be such a headquarters in Mauritius, Madagascar or ... in the Fiji Islands? And even in Antarctica ... While joking, and there, who knows? ..

In this article, I deal with the UN reform only in passing. If in the reviews write that you are interested, I will devote a separate article to the “united” nations.

We turn to military measures.
The first. Of course, Syria, before it’s too late, you need to equip it with the latest technology (as far as possible). It is very good if the C-300 anti-aircraft missile systems are in fact already in Assad. If not, bring them to him immediately. I wrote here Gazeta.ru (of course, you can't believe, but this is not important now), allegedly we also put the Syrians on combat Yak-130. WHAT FOR?! Yes, this plane is good for study (the Yakovlev Design Bureau won a tough competition to start producing), but not for a fight. At the salon in Le Bourget, the director of the engineering center of the Irkut corporation, Konstantin Popovich, assured that it was possible to remake it in combat by installing an optical-location station and easy booking. But, I hope, no one will argue that this is not the machine that opposes the "NATO vultures"?

So, the truth was written about these “yaks” or not, it doesn’t matter. The bottom line is that Assad needs to deliver not old and not training weapons, but new ones. Let's say the MiG-31B interceptors. Needless to say, for the ground battle, the Syrian government troops must receive both good small arms and equipment (the same BPM-3, Tanks T-90).

We must climb out of the skin, but to help Asad in the coming months to crush all the militants and, preferably, completely destroy them. After all, if he has time to turn this up before the direct intervention of NATO, the intervention will become nothing more than an attack on an independent state. When no one in the country revolts, there is no one to "defend" the valiant "champions of democracy." This is a truism!

The second. If, contrary to all our aspirations, until the approach of the “big brother” forces to the Syrian government troops to destroy the militants will not succeed, Russia, too, should decide on a military presence. And here, too, there are several ways.

Already today, Assad can offer accommodation on his land of our Air Force base. Let's hope that the big war will not come, but the base in the Middle East alone will not prevent us. For some reason, more than I am sure that in their present position the leader of the Syrian people will agree.
And where is the base, there is the air force itself. In Syria, this may be a regiment of the same interceptors MiG-31B. The personnel of the regiment are exclusively experienced pilots (from the captain and above). And even not so. Such a regiment of Russia just need to have. Let it be a kind of "fire brigade", ready to fly an alarm to any part of the world. And according to the level of training ... Well, imagine “Vityazi” or “Swifts”, but not created for shows at air shows and parades, but for combat! Of course, the conditions of service of these officers are bound to be paradise. Say, the salary of an ordinary pilot of such a regiment while he is in Russia is no less than 300 000 rubles / month. It is clear that if the regiment is provided to help one of our allies, then this ally (in our case, Comrade Asad) will take over all of its contents for the time of rendering assistance. I think the very presence of our regiment will be able to cool the “hotheads” and force NATO to abandon all “non-flying zones” there.

Finally, it is unlikely, but still possible and the support of Syria from the sea. Why is unlikely? - Yes, because the Syrian coast is the Mediterranean coast, closed from all sides. There our ships are much more difficult than, suppose, in the Persian Gulf. In general, if there are enough of our ships (and submarines) in the Mediterranean Sea and Assad’s willingness to pay for such a “pleasure”, it would have been possible to prevent NATO ships from entering the Syrian waters.

I perfectly understand the entire utopianism of the item “last”, but why not use it at least as a “trump card” for an insolent bluff?
I sincerely hope that all of the military measures will require only the first. Although the conversation about the construction of our base (or the transfer to our use of the Syrian base) also does not prevent to start.

The reasons why the West will surrender will not come to the application of extreme measures
Already at a distance I feel how the readers of these lines respond about me. "Moron! Bolobol! Provocateur! ”- rushes in your minds ...
Yes, you calm down and breathe evenly. With due persuasiveness (sometimes our diplomatic corps lacks it), just hinting at our possible steps will be more than enough.

Think for yourself. Europe has not yet developed its notorious renewable energy sources to completely abandon our gas. And about the income that Russian lovers bring to travel and, as a result, plenty to walk, I keep quiet. European and American businessmen will not want to lose the Russian market. A fever-ridden Europe will not be able to provide them with proper demand.
And now let us remember that the same Obama is only a puppet in the hands of puppeteers. Who are these puppeteers? - Well, of course, business. People with money, to put it simply. I have no doubt that whether Russia be consistent - these Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Morgans, Goldmans and Saxons themselves will tell their “ruler”: “What are you doing, brute! Well, agree with the Russians! ”

And since the European “rulers” and “blood orange” are the essence, the same weak-willed puppets in the hands of the “money bags”, the same thing will happen to them one-to-one.

And let the "fifth column" turn into the first. Now you have the right to ask me: “But won't they exert the same pressure on our Putin?” “Of course, they will!” Here we will see: how the head of our state is independent and able to bend his line. If he managed to free himself from addiction, which undoubtedly took place in the first years of his reign (let's not forget from whose hands he got the power), then he will be able to answer something like this: “Do you lose profit ?! - Understand. Do you need to agree? I also understand. And I need, but so that Russia, which you have forgotten for your money, does not lose face! So go and strike you for her. "

And what, is it bad, if not the first persons of our state, but prokhorovs, Abramovichs, Izmailovs, Deripaskas, become humiliated and once again “agree”? - Do you feel sorry for them ?! - I do not! Indeed, in truth, the place of these "gentlemen" who imagined that we are their slaves, in the mines, on logging sites and construction sites in permafrost regions. So let them at least once work out their "kurshaveli" and "ruble"!

Following the rich in the same direction, you can send "people" and smaller ones in the same direction: mediocre and voiceless singers and singers who bought houses in Miami, politicians like Nemtsov, Kasyanov and Kudrin. Yes, a lot more who.

The main thing - do not give up and do not bend yourself! And in conclusion ... Do you really think that I myself believe in all the above? Comrades readers, yes, I got carried away. But oh my god, how sometimes you want to dream that it was not the “plastic world” of the West that won from the song of rock musician Yegor Letov, but our, original, real !!! A plastic lost, finally, his unfeeling doll little face, striking them with a swing in ... (well, you know where). But still I believe, even if not now, but through 10 for many years, the victory will be ours !!! After all, it is our right.
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  1. Den3082
    Den3082 21 June 2013 09: 28 New
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    Article continuous fantasies. It is a pity that in reality everything is much more complicated. The author fantasize more thoroughly) Deepen, deepen)
    1. Nicholas C.
      Nicholas C. 21 June 2013 09: 42 New
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      The author correctly formulated the situation. It’s a pity that he didn’t rise above the platitudes further.

      We will help Syria as we can. Our foremost is there now.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 09: 52 New
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        Quote: Nikolai S.

        We will help Syria as we can. Our foremost is there now.

        This is you now about the Yak 130, which are without engines and avionics and are waiting for a political decision to be sent to Syria.
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 21 June 2013 10: 22 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Are you talking about the Yak 130, which are without engines and avionics

          Alexander, you have formulated the question as a real Uniate. I personally do not have a relationship with the Yak-130 and did not destroy the chapel. But nevertheless, our state FOR Syria and Putin is not intentionally plotting it. How they solve the issue of the supply of heavy offensive weapons to the conflict zone, I don’t know.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 10: 42 New
            +5
            Quote: Nikolai S.
            t. How they solve the issue of the supply of heavy offensive weapons to the conflict zone, I do not know.

            I don’t know either, but the fact is that the Yaks who should have been in Syria for a long time are not there yet request
            Quote: Nikolai S.

            Alexander, you formulated the question as a real Uniate

            Well, I'm sorry, this is the answer to yours: Help, than we can hi
        2. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 11: 12 New
          +6
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Nikolai S.

          We will help Syria as we can. Our foremost is there now.

          This is you now about the Yak 130, which are without engines and avionics and are waiting for a political decision to be sent to Syria.


          But during the war, alarmists, undermining the authority of the leadership, were shot.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 11: 16 New
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            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov

            But during the war, alarmists, undermining the authority of the leadership, were shot.

            Management has authority what are you talking about Serdyukov now or something I didn’t understand
            1. Ivan_Ivanov
              Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 11: 29 New
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              Is Serdyukov a leader? Perhaps he is your leader, but not mine and not for the country.

              during the war, alarmists, undermining the authority of the leadership, were shot
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 12: 40 New
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                Not so long ago I was the head of the Moscow Region or you are not in the know. And about the country I did not understand, you are kind of from Odessa.
                Quote: Ivan_Ivanov

                during the war, alarmists, undermining the authority of the leadership, were shot

                No, you’ll definitely be shot one of the first tongue
      2. Vadivak
        Vadivak 21 June 2013 10: 08 New
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        Quote: Author Vladimir Glybin.
        Already Western media unwittingly praise Putin


        Yah?
        Read for example Foreign policy; "Russian domestic and foreign policy in the last 12 years is an" open and impudent challenge to American values ​​", support for non-democratic regimes.
        The New York Times:what changes can happen in a country whose political and business elites own property in the West and send their children to study in Western universities
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 22 June 2013 12: 21 New
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          Quote: Vadivak
          Quote: Author Vladimir Glybin.
          Already Western media unwittingly praise Putin


          Yah?


          Well, yes.

          Whatever Western writers write, they write about GDP. Someone is reading this, someone is postponed in his head. It's enough.
        2. F117
          F117 22 June 2013 21: 17 New
          +1
          You need to be able to distinguish pro-Western media, because there exist (!) There are also independent ones who try to more accurately reflect reality
      3. mnn_13
        mnn_13 21 June 2013 12: 38 New
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        We will help Syria as we can.

        It seems to me that it is impossible to keep Syria in a real conflict. I have in mind the geographical and geopolitical location of this country. On one side of the Turks on the other is Israel and Jordan. Let's be realistic - in a real war, the Russian fleet in the Mediterranean will be completely isolated and doomed to destruction.
        The Russian leadership understands this. There is no sense in throwing the country's most advanced weapons developments so that they fall into the hands of the enemy. What the leadership is doing now is probably the most correct - they are trying to postpone diplomatic maneuvers in the time of the present conflict and prepare themselves and the allies for what will happen after the fall of Syria. In my opinion (as Wang said) a big war will begin after the fall of Syria. Now this is just a prelude ...
        1. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 22 June 2013 12: 22 New
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          Quote: mnn_13
          We will help Syria as we can.

          It seems to me that it is impossible to keep Syria in a real conflict. I mean geographic and


          When it seems necessary to be baptized. There is no external intervention, the military operation will soon go to the police. The borders of the state have not been canceled.
          1. mnn_13
            mnn_13 22 June 2013 23: 08 New
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            Hope you are right, Comrade General. I do not believe it, but I want you to be right.
        2. vBR
          vBR 30 June 2013 18: 07 New
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          Can. When, from curtsies and verbal dives, the power of the Russian Federation will pass to the supply of tanks, small arms, spare parts, helicopters, airplanes and air defense systems. Half of this is rotting in reserve warehouses and will still be written off on time, it should be given away for free. And not in ridiculous quantities, but to wage a real war. So there is no talk of any "advanced developments" here, do not worry
      4. alexkross83
        alexkross83 21 June 2013 13: 41 New
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        The author perfectly stated his position, which, by the way, is agreed by many, the proposals are not new of course, but I think politicians will rise above the banalities. Indeed, a lot has been put on the map now, at least the West already understands that no one will surrender Syria, just like the Syrian people ... they are Arabs or Negroes by and large ...
      5. Vovka levka
        Vovka levka 21 June 2013 15: 56 New
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        Quote: Nikolay S.

        We will help Syria as we can. Our foremost is there now.

        But you do not just have to say that someone cares about the fate of the Syrian people. She does not care about anyone - neither America, nor us. Everyone solves their problems at the expense of the country where the war is going on and where the good guys poison the population with gas, and the bad guys open the bodies of the dead and eat their hearts.
        And if America is against Assad, we are automatically for it. All who are America’s enemies automatically become our friends. So it was for the Union, so it is now. That is all politics. They did not spare such a thing for the Union, now probably too.
        But if America and its allies decide to deal with Bashar al-Assad, they will do it. And Russia with China or with someone else in the company will not be able to prevent this. And this is also a fact, whether we want it or not. And do not flatter yourself that the supply of equipment can change the situation. The only thing that will be achieved is enormous financial losses and even more image-building. You just have to forget about the East market, except for Iran.
        There are no friends for us there, because some of them differ little from others.
        And if someone is attracted to exploits, then let them not go awry on the Internet, but go there and with weapons in their hands prove their case. For a man is painted by deeds, not chatter.
        PS And whoever will stay in that meat grinder and be lucky to stay alive will come a completely different person. And it will be silent and only through clenched teeth to send all the wise guys nah..n!
        1. Che
          Che 21 June 2013 17: 39 New
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          And if America is against Assad, we are automatically for it. All who are America’s enemies automatically become our friends. So it was for the Union, so it is now. That is all politics. They did not spare such a thing for the Union, now probably too.

          You are wrong, but you can be forgivably seen young at all or by Western propaganda iliibraustili.

          Under the Union, they unselfishly helped today too.
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 21 June 2013 23: 01 New
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            Quote: Che
            And if America is against Assad, we are automatically for it. All who are America’s enemies automatically become our friends. So it was for the Union, so it is now. That is all politics. They did not spare such a thing for the Union, now probably too.

            You are wrong, but you can be forgivably seen young at all or by Western propaganda iliibraustili.

            Under the Union, they unselfishly helped today too.

            No, not young, studied and served under the Union.
        2. _Forgiven_
          _Forgiven_ 21 June 2013 22: 25 New
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          Have you received any electronic money transfers from the CIA account recently? Why are you talking about invincibility in the military conflict of the United States ??? Read historical reports about the operation of the three submarines in the last century, when the intelligence of the NATO countries and the United States lost sight of them. They literally shit, because they carried such a nuclear stock on board the submarine that the continent of North America would be wiped off the face of our amazing planet. It is enough to crank it up and all the ardor will descend to "No" instantly. There is also the last Shark, which can catch up with fear, give her a pair of more or less strong submarines as cover and a similar situation will occur.
          The main thing is to load the Mace on them and send the atomic train to ride around the country.
          Maybe I certainly exaggerated a lot, but I hope you understand the essence
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka 21 June 2013 23: 05 New
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            Quote: _Forgiven_
            Have you received any electronic money transfers from the CIA account recently? Why are you talking about invincibility in the military conflict of the United States ??? Read historical reports about the operation of the three submarines in the last century, when the intelligence of the NATO countries and the United States lost sight of them. They literally shit, because they carried such a nuclear stock on board the submarine that the continent of North America would be wiped off the face of our amazing planet. It is enough to crank it up and all the ardor will descend to "No" instantly. There is also the last Shark, which can catch up with fear, give her a pair of more or less strong submarines as cover and a similar situation will occur.
            The main thing is to load the Mace on them and send the atomic train to ride around the country.
            Maybe I certainly exaggerated a lot, but I hope you understand the essence

            I heard a ringing, did not know where he was from. Do not fly in the clouds, and read less nonsense.
      6. Arkan
        Arkan 21 June 2013 16: 29 New
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        Quote: Nikolai S.
        The author correctly formulated the situation. It’s a pity that he didn’t rise above the platitudes further.

        Good afternoon! Let me remind you - China joined the WTO and gained access to the American markets after the banal massacre of Americans began in China, after the destruction of the Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia and the death of three Chinese ... Banal measures do not mean that they are not true , and Chinese experience has shown that for the West they are the most intelligible ...
      7. valerei
        valerei 21 June 2013 17: 14 New
        +3
        Nikolai S. Yes, platitudes, or otherwise - well-known ways to bring to the presumptuous amers. Glybin simply enumerated what the Russian leadership should do closely in the very near future. Who knows, maybe the Yak-130 is already doing it - it's a trial balloon. Glybin clearly said that Assad is not our friend, but Syria is the last remaining state at a distance from our borders, which the Amers want to bomb and which is easy prey and this is true. I would not compare Syria with Stalingrad, but with Spain in 1936 - I would compare. But, no one reads our comments, except for ourselves, unfortunately.
    2. Den3082
      Den3082 21 June 2013 10: 15 New
      +3
      Minus something))) But the article is not close to analysis. Fantasy - yes. Analysis is not. Well, it doesn’t work like that in life to wave a saber. After a couple of swings, they will unscrew their own heads.
      1. 755962
        755962 21 June 2013 10: 30 New
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        And "striped" has seven Fridays a week ..
        A bill has been submitted to Congress prohibiting Obama to arm the Syrian opposition

        A group of US senators has set itself the task of blocking the allocation of funds for the armament of the Syrian opposition. They have submitted to Congress a bill prohibiting President Barack Obama from using public funds for activities that "increase US involvement in the Syrian civil war."


        http://www.newsru.com/world/21jun2013/zakproject.html
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 21 June 2013 11: 15 New
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          Quote: 755962
          A group of US senators has set itself the task of blocking the allocation of funds for the armament of the Syrian opposition. They have submitted to Congress a bill prohibiting President Barack Obama from using public funds for activities that "increase US involvement in the Syrian civil war."

          Well, this is another series of farce from the State Department.
      2. mnn_13
        mnn_13 21 June 2013 13: 11 New
        +1
        But please do not judge very strict. Apparently this is a young man. He will live wiser ...
    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 21 June 2013 10: 51 New
      11
      The ideas of science fiction gave ground to scientists and designers to translate these ideas into reality. I will not give examples; they are known.
      The article, of course, is chaotic, but there is a rational grain in it.
    4. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 21 June 2013 11: 13 New
      +1
      As soon as the author began a mishmash of current politics and politics under Yeltsin, everything fell into place immediately. I did not read further. These are completely different leaders and a different policy. To compare is to be really grouchy, but not smart.
    5. Papakiko
      Papakiko 21 June 2013 11: 21 New
      +1
      Quote: Den3082
      Deepen need deepen
    6. mnn_13
      mnn_13 21 June 2013 12: 23 New
      +8
      in reality, everything is much more complicated

      And so and so. It seems to me Clausewitz said something like that - the warrior is not difficult but very hard ...
      The mashabs of Russia are such that no one will leave it alone. Or you’ll fight (it’s not necessary to have a hot war) or you will be torn apart like Yugoslavia or turned into a basal, where everything is decided by the American ambassador, like Bulgaria.
      1. alexkross83
        alexkross83 21 June 2013 13: 48 New
        0
        There has not yet been such a thing in the history of Russia that it wandered in vassals ... the Russian bear will wake up and then you will understand what it is !!! Time will show who will be left alone, and who will be wiped off the face of the earth, like an abominable civilization.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 21 June 2013 18: 20 New
          +2
          Do not get excited, and consider, well, at least up to 100 before you post, otherwise it turns out painfully funny.
          Quote: alexkross83
          There was not yet such a thing in the history of Russia that she walked in vassals

          300 years walked under the Tatars. Well, the truth is the last time I checked, Tatarstan is now just autonomy within the Russian Federation, and not vice versa.
          Quote: alexkross83
          and who will be wiped off the face of the earth, like an abominable civilization.

          Do you really want the 3rd world war? So after all, if you survive, then you will have to fight the 4th one, moreover, with a club and stone. Have you stockpiled the indicated items? I do not ask for a nuclear shelter - judging by your fighting mood, you have already dug it up.
          1. F117
            F117 22 June 2013 21: 27 New
            0
            300 years walked under the Tatars. Well, the truth is the last time I checked, Tatarstan is now just autonomy within the Russian Federation, and not vice versa.
            Are you wondering that this myth appeared in Europe at the beginning of the 16th century, from where Peter 1 brought it to Russia. And if purely genetically, the Tatars are as close to us as the Poles. It was not a vassalage, but a small internecine strife that "pro-Moved" Europe was able to inflate before World War II.
    7. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ 21 June 2013 12: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: Den3082
      Article continuous fantasies. It is a pity that in reality everything is much more complicated. The author fantasize more thoroughly) Deepen, deepen)

      I also put a minus in the article, although I like the author’s ideological orientation. Perhaps the author is just too young and looks at the world too simplified. Honestly, I did not master and read the fifth part, everything is too stretched and far-fetched.

      Although the fact that the author understands that no victory in Syria so far is not a plus. You should always look critically at any event. Assad has achieved significant military successes, but the economic chasm beneath it is widening. Do not forget that more than 70% of the total Sunni population in Syria, 10% of the Kurds, is of course much dependent on the formation of these Sunnis, but given that the Shiite Sunnis have broken through the Middle East, it will be very difficult to retain power in the country by political methods.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 21 June 2013 13: 14 New
        +3
        There are many controversial points in the article, but in general the article is correct, I put a plus. Article "from the heart" I would characterize it that way. Let Putin read.
    8. a52333
      a52333 21 June 2013 13: 42 New
      +2
      I agree with you. There is a pro-American lobby in government (and led) To overcome V.V.P. there is not only external, but also internal (which is possibly worse) resistance.
      1. Ruslan_F38
        Ruslan_F38 21 June 2013 13: 52 New
        +2
        Here they write, the author is young, does not own the situation, and so on and so on. But the Americans behave in this way and behave "in a brazen, they want to do something", "like an elephant in a china shop, only a shop all over the world", they don't really wrap themselves up, and they don't give a damn what they think of them. It’s not difficult, I think, to compare the actions of the Americans and the proposals of the author of the article - the difference is not great, only the parties to the conflict are different, and after all, no one will accuse the Americans of “youth” and thoughtlessness of decisions.
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 21 June 2013 21: 14 New
          +3
          Ruslan_F38
          Simply put - "There is no reception against scrap ... if there is no other scrap" hi
          But you also understand, because for this, and to put it mildly, "Doesn't like", the whole decent world! And in the end we, acting by their methods in everything that concerns geopolitics and economics, ourselves will turn into exactly the same monster. We must always adhere to those the principles that you profess. They already have no faith, but they are beginning to listen to us! And although fascism has raised its head on the planet, it is TRUE, in the age of information technologies it is becoming common property. And the popularity of this site is a clear confirmation of this. And you and the article, plus for being indifferent! as one wise man said, "Evil is only magnified in full force when good people are inactive!" drinks
        2. El13
          El13 22 June 2013 17: 44 New
          +1
          Ruslan_F38,
          and also imagine that we are discussing with you two ordinary employees what a bastard our director of the company is doing, what he wants, fines anyone he wants, and so on, but we are not slaves, but ... for now, we must reckon with the balance of power in our company and to do what the director wants, but we can push him to the decisions we need in one way or another or quit, expressing to him everything that is painful for us, but that’s all for him. We are now in a situation like this, if you think about it, but it’s not so easy to fire us.
    9. dustycat
      dustycat 21 June 2013 13: 48 New
      +3
      Well, 70% may be some good intentions, but the fact that Russia needs to reassemble at least some allies, especially those who were abandoned in 1987-1990, is true.
      Stop wincing already at the words of Cuba, China, Venezuela, North Korea.
      At least some allies are better than partners who dream of having a freebie.
      1. bogdan
        bogdan 21 June 2013 15: 26 New
        +3
        Well, something like this.

  2. Sandov
    Sandov 21 June 2013 09: 29 New
    15
    We must climb out of the skin, but to help Asad in the coming months to crush all the militants and, preferably, completely destroy them. After all, if he has time to turn this up before the direct intervention of NATO, the intervention will become nothing more than an attack on an independent state. When no one in the country revolts, there is no one to "defend" the valiant "champions of democracy." This is a truism!

    This is currently the most important task.

    I think it is clear to everyone that this porridge was brewed in the quiet of the offices of the Western political elite. If we defend Syria, then we will defend our homeland. To author +
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 21 June 2013 10: 13 New
      +3
      Quote: Sandov
      We must climb out of our skin, but help Assad


      Мы are those those on the forum should climb out of their skin?
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 21 June 2013 12: 46 New
        +2
        help Assad in the next month to crush all the militants and, preferably, completely destroy them.

        Of course, I'm talking about Russia's capabilities in this region. They undoubtedly exist, and they must be used to the full.
      2. liteha
        liteha 23 June 2013 01: 30 New
        0
        We are those who under oath serve the Motherland.
        I personally think that an armed clash between Russia and the West is inevitable with the continuation of President Putin’s line of sovereignty
        This will happen in Syria or a year later in another part of the world, but it will happen necessarily at the whim of the West (sga) and especially quickly if the West bombed Syria. The faster and at a lower cost to the West this will happen, the faster the next absolution will be appointed and exponentially executed.
        Therefore, in my opinion, a lot is now at stake in Syria for the whole world. It is simply an indicator - on whose side is the power now, or rather, does Russia have enough strength to implement its own scenarios in world politics against the will of our "partners". Much says that these forces are now at their maximum over the past 22 years .. And if they are not enough, no one (and never) will reckon with us - they will take away everything that is like candy from a child. I am personally not convinced that here and now the very fact of the presence of Russian military bases in the conflict zone can prevent international intervention (After the successful completion of the Syrian conflict for Syria and Russia, generously sponsored by the West, such an opportunity may appear, but before that "we still have to live")
        Therefore, it is necessary to formally remain in the shadows, to do everything to maximize the time and increase the cost of our "partners" in the democratization of Syria. Make them unacceptable. When the game is no longer worth the candle. Something like the news of a sunken steamer carrying 4500 containers of weapons for the militants.
  3. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 June 2013 09: 32 New
    +8
    Nice analysis! What 100% I agree with is that Russia without strong allies (like China) will not last long. We are also weak economically and militarily. The West will go to any provocations (the most sophisticated they know how) Hold on to Vovka people with you! !
    1. Scoun
      Scoun 21 June 2013 10: 31 New
      +8
      Quote: MIKHAN
      What is 100% agree that Russia is without strong allies (like China)

      China is not an assistant in Syria, they will not go to the "exchange" with the United States now if Iran gets involved in the conflict .. then it is quite possible .. for China this is a more sensitive "card".
      Iran is still a weak helper .. for how many years they have been strangling it with sanctions ... Iraq is in internal discord .. there’s no desire to talk about others at all .. IMHA.
      The author in a number of moments really got a little carried away but ....
      Political Will is needed, but there is still so-called diplomacy in which if you throw off the beautiful "facade" there is bargaining, bluff, threats and other dirty tricks that are called diplomacy in one word. In general, it seems to me .. that the pod could be buried somewhere else ... because now all eyes are on Syria, everyone is making "bets" on Syria, and in the meantime, the "Great Sharper", bypassing the spectators from behind, takes out wallets and rob their "apartments" .........
  4. omsbon
    omsbon 21 June 2013 09: 34 New
    13
    The article is a little utopian, but true in essence. The author offers a fight on the far approaches to Russia, and rightly so.
    1. mnn_13
      mnn_13 22 June 2013 12: 55 New
      +1
      What do you think "distant approaches" mean in the modern world? For a long time no one is going to take Moscow. States in our time are crumbling economically and from within. If everything goes from Syria as the West wants, then soon it is quite possible that the oil price will be below $ 40 per barrel. The same will happen with gas. What will be the consequences for Russia in the framework of, say, 3 years, you yourself can understand.
      All the rest will be done by all sorts of little dogs, Kasparov, Nemtsov. It’s a pity, for example, that you don’t know what Nemtsov said on Bulgarian television. And I don’t understand how people voting for him still eat in Russia.
      So Syria is not far approach and almost at the gates. If Esli is comparable to World War II, Syria is now somewhere on the Volokolamsk highway ...
  5. TURAR
    TURAR 21 June 2013 09: 35 New
    +2
    I don’t understand why "Transnistria"? The United States is on the brink of bankruptcy, the US army is the only argument that supports this wrapper, and of course the oil price through the Saudis. In my opinion, Syria is a direct access to the underbelly of Russia - China and this is the Caspian Sea, the Caucasus and many countries of the puppets loyal to the United States and its army, where the next stage is access to Siberian resources and also cuts off Russia and China from each other, blocking sea railway transport links, seizing the northern shelf, which, for the sake of ecology, is released and this is oil. Syria is the gateway to world domination (((... Without Russia! It says here we will turn off the GAS)))) so if the US is in this "underbelly" Russia and cannot turn it off!
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 21 June 2013 09: 40 New
      +6
      A wounded beast is a hundred times more dangerous. In the end, this can do. This is visible because they have allies. Notorious killers.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 21 June 2013 10: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: Sandov
        A wounded beast is a hundred times more dangerous. In the end, this can do. This is visible because they have allies. Notorious killers


        And I began to be sad about the past, but no idea is being reborn


        Inevitably, the extravagant idea of ​​the American imperialists, seeking to establish their rule over the world, will also collapse. ... Preaching the extravagant idea of ​​world domination of US imperialism, preparing a war against the USSR and the countries of popular democracy .....


        Only the calculations are still in dollars, officials as before on foreign cars, children are not military schools .....
        1. MG42
          MG42 21 June 2013 12: 45 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadivak
          Only the calculations are still in dollars, officials as before on foreign cars, children not in military schools

          Now the capital rules the ball, although Russia could translate the calculations for energy carriers into rubles, with Ukraine such an undertaking was, now again payments in US dollars have gone ..
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 21 June 2013 12: 48 New
          +3
          Only the calculations are still in dollars, officials as before on foreign cars, children are not military schools .....

          This does not make me happy, I hope you too.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 21 June 2013 09: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: TURAR
      US is on the verge of bankruptcy


      How old is it already?

      In our time there was a saying, capitalism stands on the edge of the abyss and watches socialism piling up below.
      1. TURAR
        TURAR 21 June 2013 10: 47 New
        +1
        That China and Russia have investments in the US economy. And this, in turn, is the US debt to its "partners" ie. willingly or not, we with China own the asset of the United States and according to their own laws. And the laws, as always, are the basis of the state ... With certain actions, for example, the declaration of a single economic space with China and Co. and the creation of a union currency, the amers will start having problems because they, according to their laws, will determine (by their obligations ;-)) our union currency ... And this will require the protection of investments from our side and their bankruptcy. That is why they are climbing because the basis of relations between Russia and China is resources and technologies.
        "proverb, capitalism stands on the edge of the abyss and looks like socialism swarms below." is a good saying. Time has changed! Amers themselves know that bankrupts and do not deny this and that their "capitalism" themselves will not bring them to good, but that there is a US union of states where everyone will not be within limits when the US as a whole begins to demand debt.
      2. Sandov
        Sandov 21 June 2013 12: 50 New
        +2
        But where does he go, this is inevitable, everything goes to that. And the gringos are blown away, I would like to live up to this time.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 09: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: TURAR
      I don’t understand why "Transnistria"?

      There, too, is not calm, it is heating up quietly.

      At the same time, as deputy Alexander Petkov, who is attending a closed parliamentary meeting on the situation in Transnistria, said today, Defense Minister “Vitaliy Marinuts is waiting for similar prerequisites for a repeat of the Georgian-style conflict involving Russia”
      http://news.mail.ru/inworld/moldova/politics/13591056/
      1. Tersky
        Tersky 21 June 2013 10: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        “Vitaly Marinuta is waiting for similar prerequisites to appear for a repeat of the Georgian-style conflict involving Russia”

        Hi Sasha! According to the Georgian model and scenario, the finale is known, only this time take Chisinau ...
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 10: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          According to the Georgian model and scenario, the finale is known, only this time take Chisinau ...

          Yes, I agree, and considering who is running in Moldova now, the people themselves will hang Russian tricolors laughing
          Victor hi
      2. TURAR
        TURAR 21 June 2013 10: 59 New
        +1
        Bad of course! BUT all this, in my opinion, reconnaissance in battle is an opportunity to bring into conflict and sow panic. I check how we react both militarily and in affection for our brothers. Is the soul still alive to them ...
        Syria + Iran is not only the key to Russia and China, it is the key to keeping the United States "superpower".
    4. Skarte
      Skarte 21 June 2013 10: 05 New
      +3
      Yes, I heard recently that the Arabs have an interest in Syria and that this interest has a pipeline through Syria-Turkey and to Europe. The shortest and most convenient way than to drag by sea. But only this idea does not suit Russia, direct competition ... But to what extent this is true, I do not know)) it was possible through Iraq, but it’s painfully unstable and an additional hook. If we trace the entire route of Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Bulgaria and Europe itself, then only Syria remained "unruly" from this chain.
      1. Korzhik_77
        Korzhik_77 21 June 2013 12: 11 New
        -2
        Skarte
        If we trace the entire route of Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Bulgaria and Europe itself, then only Syria remained "unruly" from this chain

        And why not replace Syria with Israel in this chain - and everyone will
        happiness???!!!
        1. Skarte
          Skarte 21 June 2013 16: 59 New
          0
          Israel borders with Syria and Libya, Libya has the extreme border of Syria, not Turkey. Exit, again the sea!
          1. Korzhik_77
            Korzhik_77 21 June 2013 17: 09 New
            0
            Skarte
            I am friends with geography. My post was to the fact that often one of the reasons
            crisis in Syria called Qatar’s burning desire to extend the pipe directly to the Mediterranean and further to Europe - this is also possible through Israel (as one of the options). Yours faithfully
            1. Skarte
              Skarte 21 June 2013 18: 13 New
              +1
              Excuse me, I read it in a hurry, apparently I did not understand. Perhaps so ... The sheikhs' great interest in Syria is simply surprising, I do not think that they will act so zealously only by order, seemingly waved with a sweet candy and rushed to "serve."
              1. Korzhik_77
                Korzhik_77 21 June 2013 19: 03 New
                0
                Skarte
                No problem drinks
                I agree with you that the sheikhs were "lured". And so there is such a tangle what
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 21 June 2013 21: 45 New
            0
            Quote: Skarte
            Israel borders with Syria and Libya, Libya has the extreme border of Syria

            Actually, Libya is in Africa, and Israel is in Asia. You didn’t mean Lebanon?
            1. Skarte
              Skarte 22 June 2013 09: 29 New
              0
              Actually, Libya is in Africa, and Israel is in Asia. You didn’t mean Lebanon?
              Yes, he himself ... Hurry, you make people laugh repeat
          3. F117
            F117 22 June 2013 21: 38 New
            0
            Libya? Perhaps Lebanon.
    5. Denis_SF
      Denis_SF 21 June 2013 10: 40 New
      +3
      The United States also does not have everything as rosy as they would like - idle and flightless Minutemans who do not fly above 7 thousand meters and are punched through by the F-22 pistol bullet and who do not want to take off the F-35, the stock of weapons and technologies that was created the Germans ends, because Germans themselves are ending, and there is no where to take new ones from. Pensioners are nuclear scientists, theft and mass casualties ... in nuclear laboratories and centers, 2,5 horseradish understand what kind of war, not payable in principle a national debt, failed plans to reduce nuclear weapons (whose contents are also not cheap, oh yes) why, you can continue until the second coming ... Simply put, the states in a pronounced zugzwang!
      And since the European “rulers” and “blood orange” are the essence, the same weak-willed puppets in the hands of the “money bags”, the same thing will happen to them one-to-one.

      It is so and not entirely, in Geyrope they understand that if the "fluffy northern fox" comes, the US will defend itself first of all, and only the EU on a leftover principle, and this prospect does not smile at anyone there. Everyone knows that with Russia lately, in this sense, jokes are bad. The more the US pushes on, the harder Putin will be (we all hope). If the US turns out to be more and more persistent, then Putin may withdraw from all agreements. The Russian president has already proved that he will do this and will not listen to anyone when he withdrew from the CFE Treaty in 2007. Then his liberals cursed, now it is clear what a huge benefit Putin's decisiveness brought.
      I will cite the commentary of an American: "The Russians are cool crazy, and the Americans are crazy stupid and pathetic. Russia is a real country with a rich culture and history, and America is a British colony full of fat men and idiots with a thirst for material as the main ideology. Russia is a work of art, and America is a piece of shit "
    6. uhu189
      uhu189 21 June 2013 10: 57 New
      +1
      We are on the verge of bankruptcy, and the United States and Europe will hold out for some time. We either need to do industrialization and start building factories, or become Somalia. I'm afraid only that choice remained before us, the commodity economy has already exhausted itself
  6. Midshipman
    Midshipman 21 June 2013 09: 36 New
    +1
    Why is there only MiG 31 - he has nowhere to turn around there, all of Syria 800x400 km
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 21 June 2013 10: 57 New
      0
      The author forgot to mention the Tu-95, Tu-22 and Tu-160. Got excited.
  7. SmacXnumx
    SmacXnumx 21 June 2013 09: 36 New
    +3
    Yes, the author of the armies and fleets to command this is the scope of this is the flight of thought !!!
  8. ronin
    ronin 21 June 2013 09: 41 New
    +3
    Thanks to the author!
  9. Kovrovsky
    Kovrovsky 21 June 2013 09: 43 New
    +3
    It can be seen that emotions overlap over the edge! But the idea that Syria needs to be supported to the end is correct.
  10. Rus2012
    Rus2012 21 June 2013 09: 48 New
    +4
    combat training Yak-130 gathered the Syrians to deliver. WHAT FOR?!


    ... because the Syrians ordered them. It should be good as a light attack aircraft and bomber in the fight against mercenary bandits. Moreover, it can be equipped with just such a quality, and not as a "desk for everything." Cheap and easy to learn. Wait, they howl on the L-39 ...

    In general, the article is positive, but as for fantasies, the war is unpredictable and, as a rule, with the results completely different, as the authors-initiators expected and planned ...
    Already, everything has gotten out of the control of the Yankees, so much so that the question is about their unwanted-forced direct involvement in aggression. The end is also possible, it does not suit them very much. So, we all need to help the Syrian people in every way ...
  11. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM 21 June 2013 09: 52 New
    +4
    The article describes the plot before the Third World War or at least a tough Cold War
    it will be difficult to crank ooooooooooooo because everything is tied to the dollar and America in consequence
    First you need to get financial independence and Reliable allies who in difficult times will not back off !!!
    Because the answer will also follow itself and it will be necessary to stick together !!!
    Therefore, it is necessary to deepen the interaction of the BRICS SCO CSTO EURASES CUSTOMS UNION !!!!!!
  12. Anti
    Anti 21 June 2013 09: 53 New
    +5
    I can’t understand why we are constantly instilled with guilty feelings for Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya?
    But they did not have the will to resist, like Syria, they only engaged in the distribution of wealth and bargaining with the West.
    1. Stamp
      Stamp 21 June 2013 15: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: Anti
      Feeling guilty for Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya? N they did not have the will to resist, like Syria, they only engaged in the distribution of wealth and bargaining with the West.

      Well, and comparisons, remember how many tomahawks were issued for the same Yugoslavia and Iraq, and how many planes bombed them, mercenaries are fighting in Syria, this is a big difference.
      1. Anti
        Anti 22 June 2013 00: 05 New
        -3
        Quote: Stamp
        Well, and comparisons, remember how many tomahawks were issued for the same Yugoslavia and Iraq, and how many planes bombed them, mercenaries are fighting in Syria, this is a big difference.


        they lay on their backs after the first tomahawks and they could have put up a lot of blood, could and squeezed out, they pussed in one word.

        Losses of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia

        Directly during the fighting, data on the losses of the Yugoslav army were announced only twice - on March 25, 1999, losses were announced in the Yugoslav Army as a whole (10 dead, 38 wounded and one missing) and on March 29, 1999 at the general’s first press conference Smilaynich was announced the losses in the Air Force and Air Defense of Yugoslavia (7 dead and 17 wounded).

        Only in the spring of 2000, the book “Heroes of the Fatherland” (“Junaci Otazbine”) published the final data on the losses of the Army of Yugoslavia and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Serbia during the hostilities of 1998-1999. In total, 1 people died, including 002 dead Ministry of Internal Affairs. Most died in battles with Albanian militants, and a much smaller part - as a result of NATO aviation.

        The losses of the Air Force and Air Defense amounted to 39 dead: 12 officers, 9 sergeants, 3 contract soldiers, 6 conscript soldiers and 9 reservists. 110 servicemen were injured, including 19 officers, 24 sergeants, 11 contract soldiers, 44 reservists and 2 civil servants of the Yugoslav Army.

        The ratio of seriously and lightly wounded was 46 to 64. Of the death toll of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces, only two soldiers of the 63rd Parachute Brigade died in battles with Albanian militants, the rest died as a result of NATO aviation. Of the wounded, only five out of 110 were wounded by Albanian militants.

        continued here. http://modus-agendi.org/articles/416

        where is the will to fight? Russians should fight for them and shed blood?
        1. Stamp
          Stamp 22 June 2013 00: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: Anti
          where is the will to fight? Russians should fight for them and shed blood?

          You are quoting in the link further on your link about the losses of the Yugoslav Air Force and their structure obsolete at that time, how to fight against NATO? , there was such a powerful fist concentrated against the Yugoslavs, they did not support them, incl. Russia, remember the tattoos sang "forgive me Yugoslavia".
          And about Iraq? There, in general, Hussein had no chance, only a guerrilla war was more or less effective.
          1. Anti
            Anti 22 June 2013 00: 58 New
            0
            what prevented the Yugoslavs from guerrilla? It was an experience. WHO IS TATTOOS, are these two lizbianki?
            1. Arkan
              Arkan 22 June 2013 01: 18 New
              +3
              Quote: Anti
              What prevented the Yugoslavs from guerrilla warfare?

              And who occupied the territory of Yugoslavia? Where is the partisan? For several years, the West supplied the separatists and fanatics of all stripes with weapons and money, warming up the civil war there (just like in Syria), and only after that began the destruction of the country from the air. Are you at least a little familiar with the events you are talking about?
              1. Anti
                Anti 22 June 2013 01: 25 New
                -1
                Quote: Arkan
                Are you even a little familiar with the events you are talking about?


                I wouldn’t be familiar and would not say to me at the factory in the morning, once now.
                1. Arkan
                  Arkan 22 June 2013 01: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: Anti
                  I wouldn’t be familiar and would not say to me at the factory in the morning, once now.

                  It is a pity, it would be very interesting for me and my Serbian friends to find out about the source of your knowledge.
                  1. Anti
                    Anti 22 June 2013 01: 53 New
                    0
                    You better write an article with your Serbian friends, as you understand all this and the forum will discuss it.
                    1. Arkan
                      Arkan 22 June 2013 02: 06 New
                      0
                      Quote: Anti
                      You better write an article with your Serbian friends, as you understand all this and the forum will discuss it.

                      Everyone should do their own thing, write articles - this is not mine.
                      1. Anti
                        Anti 22 June 2013 02: 10 New
                        0
                        Quote: Arkan
                        Everyone should do their own thing, write articles - this is not mine.


                        OK, good night!
                      2. Arkan
                        Arkan 22 June 2013 02: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: Anti
                        OK, good night!

                        Success and prosperity!
          2. Stamp
            Stamp 22 June 2013 01: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: Anti
            What prevented the Yugoslavs from guerrilla warfare?

            It prevented that NATO’s ground operation was not originally planned there.
            Quote: Anti
            It was an experience. WHO IS TATTOOS, are these two lizbianki?

            Yes to me on a drum who they are, but a song in a subject
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DVkPDZbPwk
            1. Anti
              Anti 22 June 2013 01: 38 New
              -1
              Quote: Stamp
              Yes to me on a drum who they are, but a song in a subject

              what the hell is the topic? Moreover, these two miscarriages with our song of course are custom-made, they let us know that we threw them, betrayed them, and horseradish with two, water does not flow under a lying stone, we owe nothing to anyone.

              A man drowns and asks God to help him be saved: "God, clear my hand." God sends a drowning log, but a man pushes the log away. Then God sends him a dolphin and then the drowning man does not use the opportunity to be saved. And in the end the man drowns and goes to God and asks: "God, why did you not give me your hand?", to which God answers him: "I sent you both the log and the dolphin, gave you the opportunity to be saved, but you yourself rejected all this and did not take the chance for salvation"

              all they needed was from us and the C300 too, although we are not gods ..
              1. Stamp
                Stamp 22 June 2013 01: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: Anti
                what the hell in the subject?

                ground operation of course which was not and was not planned in Yugoslavia crying are you in the subject?
                Quote: Anti
                water does not flow under a lying stone, we owe nothing to anyone.

                Germans love punctuality, don’t oversleep at the factory, you’ll be late will be driven to hell.
                1. Anti
                  Anti 22 June 2013 01: 59 New
                  0
                  Quote: Stamp
                  ground operation of course which was not and was not planned in Yugoslavia crying you in the subject?


                  March 24, 1999, an hour after the start of NATO air operations against Yugoslavia, the formation of the US Army (as well as other alliance countries), operating in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Macedonia under the auspices of the UN, were transferred to the NATO Allied Forces.
                  From the first day of the operation, under the guise of preparation and conduct of the Allied Harbor humanitarian operation by NATO countries in the Yugoslav crisis zone, a systematic strengthening of the US Army grouping began, which was previously planned to be used in the Joint Guardian NATO ground operation.
                  In early April 1999, three options were developed for a possible ground operation in Yugoslavia, depending on the goals and objectives that could be assigned to the military command of the political leadership of NATO: a limited operation in Kosovo, the occupation of the entire territory of the region and a full-scale invasion of NATO forces on the territory Yugoslavia.
                  The first option was to come into force after the decision by the NATO Council to establish refugee security zones in Kosovo along the borders with Albania and Macedonia. At the same time, it was supposed to introduce a contingent of allied forces of 30-36 thousand people into the territory of the region It was to be based on the formations and units deployed in Macedonia of the Joint Army Corps (OAK) of the NATO Rapid Deployment Forces (RBF) (up to 12 thousand people) and units and units of the US Army deployed in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Italy (over 10 thousand people). This contingent should have been ready for tasks in 7-10 days from the date of receipt of the operational directive.
                  According to the second option, it was planned to carry out the entry into Kosovo from Albania and Macedonia of a group of troops of over 60 thousand people. At the same time, the contingent of American troops allocated according to the first option was supposed to be strengthened by the 82nd Airborne Division of the US Army. This group should have been able to start hostilities in 14-18 days from the receipt of the relevant order.
                  The most difficult was the third option, developed in the event of NATO occupation of the entire territory of Yugoslavia with the goal of overthrowing President Milosevic. It provided for the creation of a powerful group of ground forces of 160-200 thousand people, the introduction of which was planned to be carried out simultaneously from three directions - from the territories of Hungary, Albania and Macedonia. Its composition, according to the operational plan, was to include the 82nd Airborne Division, 101st Air Assault Division and the 26th Expeditionary Marine Battalion of the US Armed Forces. In addition, in Hungary, it was planned to deploy the 1st armored (USA), 10th armored (Germany) and 1st armored (Great Britain) divisions. It was also planned to additionally transfer three Italian alpine brigades to Albania and motorized infantry formations of France, Turkey and Greece to Macedonia. Air support for the ground forces was to be provided by the air force planes and army helicopters of the NATO countries. It was planned to involve the formation of special operations forces (MTR) of the US, UK and Netherlands forces in operational support of the actions of this group. The readiness of the group to solve the tasks was determined by the terms of 6-12 weeks from the date of receipt of the order.

                  punctuality thing is right wink
                  1. Arkan
                    Arkan 22 June 2013 02: 14 New
                    +1
                    Mountains and forests are ideal conditions for guerrilla warfare, and NATO understood this very well. And they were waiting there, they were waiting ... These invasion plans would never have been realized - Yugoslavia would have been bombed until they had destroyed the entire infrastructure and industry.
                  2. Stamp
                    Stamp 22 June 2013 02: 17 New
                    0
                    Quote: Anti
                    punctuality thing is right

                    Moreover, it’s vital for you, because the crisis with work in Europe is not a fountain.
                    These are not sheets to hang up, which only in the event of an air failure and congressional approval plan, but it was not in fact, since the terrain is difficult and the inevitable loss is not Iraq with a desert storm.
                    Yugoslavs partisaned well in World War II, the experience was also the fighting spirit of fathers and grandfathers, so.
                    1. Anti
                      Anti 22 June 2013 09: 22 New
                      0
                      June 12 - NATO forces enter the territory of Serbia.
      2. Arkan
        Arkan 22 June 2013 00: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Anti
        they lay on their backs after the first tomahawks and they could have put up a lot of blood, could and squeezed out, they pussed in one word.

        Perhaps you know some special tactics of waging a modern war in the conditions of complete economic blockade and complete domination of the enemy in the air? I’ll tell you as Russian to Russian - hearing such words, I have a desire to just spit in the face of the person who said them.
        Quote: Anti
        where is the will to fight? Russians should fight for them and shed blood?

        They did not ask to shed blood for them - they asked to sell them the S-300 ..., but someone "lay on their backs", and certainly not Serbs.
        1. Anti
          Anti 22 June 2013 01: 15 New
          0
          Quote: Arkan
          I’ll tell you as Russian to Russian - hearing such words, I have a desire to just spit in the face of the person who said them.

          How do Syriacs fight?

          The S-300PM system is said to have been deployed on the Banat plain in Vojvodina, 10 km east of the industrial suburb of Pancevo, capital of Belgrade. Pancevo is the location of a large refinery, numerous chemical and industrial enterprises. Fire tests of air defense systems were scheduled for May 30 under the command of Air Force General Lyubisha Velichkovich (Ljubisa Velickovic). Two P-15M radars were installed parallel to each other with the aim of simultaneously escorting two NATO aircraft bombers.

          The Serbian air defense forces never managed to launch the S-300. It is believed that the radars were discovered by F-16 fighter-bombers, striking at the refinery, and were destroyed. Under the attacks of high-precision missiles of NATO, General Velichkovich and a number of other officers were killed.

          You spit in the face of the one you see in the mirror. If the desire is great ..
  • Son
    Son 21 June 2013 09: 57 New
    +6
    "... but help Assad in the next month to crush all the militants and, preferably, to completely destroy. After all, if he has time to do this before NATO's direct intervention ..."
    Gold words ! Faster, time works against us ..!
  • Tartary
    Tartary 21 June 2013 09: 57 New
    +4
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Nice analysis!

    Is it analysis? But is not the cry of the author’s soul? Because there are so many platitudes ...
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    The author correctly formulated the situation. It’s a pity that he didn’t rise above the platitudes further.


    So after all, if there is a cry, then how is it without platitudes?

    The author shouted for all of us, who for the most part are banal - citizens of Russia, and not cunningly - "wisely" - ass participants of the "Game" ...
  • Alexander-Tomsk
    Alexander-Tomsk 21 June 2013 09: 58 New
    +8
    Yeah, they started for health, ended up flying to the moon ... Damn, I understand gray hair in a beard, a demon in the ribs, but here the author has to write a science fiction writer (just change Zlotnikov who hit monarchism).
    10 years without wars and crises - look at the window, roads are being built, new quarters, the social program has begun to be raised slowly, world events are being held (the Sochi Olympics, the World Cup), etc. etc. Do you feel bad? Do nefig? Wanted to fight? 10-15 years of peace and we will live better than in many countries of Europe.
    No, gray-haired eagles do not give rest to the past, and pulls a block from developing countries to put together and ask Uncle Sam to beat, half of these countries will throw at the first opportunity, if they are given a sweet carrot (and if they do it right, their interests are above all).
    What I’m leading to: the Syrians are defending their home, and we can and should help them (without forgetting our own benefits), but to fight for them is not our task. The president must take into account the interests of our people first of all (a tough confrontation with developed countries will obviously not benefit from it), and thank God there are no such science fiction writers in the government.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 21 June 2013 10: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
      No haunts gray eagles past time,


      Here you are wrong, here the eaglets learn to fly, we have choked on scientific communism and the leading role of the party and any other
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 21 June 2013 10: 40 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexander-Tomsk
      Do you feel bad? Do nefig? Wanted to fight? Years 10-15 of the world and we will live better than in many countries of Europe.

      If Syria is eaten, then we will not have these years. And about the war - and why not? While this can be done on foreign territory and with little blood?
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 21 June 2013 10: 53 New
        +7
        Quote: IRBIS
        And about the war - and why not? While this can be done on foreign territory and with little blood?


        There, Iran is at hand and Syria is vital for him, because he’s next,
  • creak
    creak 21 June 2013 10: 00 New
    +3
    And then Ostap suffered ... Without touching on other aspects touched upon in the article, I want to note that China prefers to consolidate its presence abroad by economic methods, acting in the spirit of its philosophy: "Sitting like a wise monkey on the top of a hill and watching two tigers fight in the valley" ...
  • Raul
    Raul 21 June 2013 10: 04 New
    +1
    The bottom line is that Assad needs to deliver not old and not training weapons, but new ones. Let's say the MiG-31B interceptors. Needless to say, for the ground battle, the Syrian government troops must receive both good small arms and equipment (the same BPM-3, T-90 tanks).

    I didn’t read further ... People do not even know what they are talking about.
  • Fin
    Fin 21 June 2013 10: 08 New
    +2
    "If you want to win, learn to kick open the door to your boss's office."
    Do you want to be sent a minimum, do so.

    "The bite, of course, came out painful, but, alas, not that not fatal, but not even sobering. The leader of our state managed to save face, not succumbing to any persuasion or threats."
    I believe that the fate of our country was also decided at the summit. The GDP has pushed back, I hope for a long time, a run over to the Russian Federation, and during this time we will be able to build muscle.

    "If NATO does not stop after the expulsion of its representatives from our country and from the allied countries, FULFILL THE PROMISE and break off diplomatic relations! Expel the embassies, consulates, missions - everyone, in short. And so that" life does not seem like honey to them ", add a third measure fourth economic. Cut off gas to Europe! "
    It’s good that you are not the president. One should only threaten with gas, and in a couple of years they will find alternative sources and our gas will not ... be needed.

    About Mig-31 nonsense.
    The article is militant fantasies.
    1. F117
      F117 22 June 2013 21: 57 New
      0
      "If NATO does not stop after the expulsion of its representatives from our country and from the allied countries, FULFILL THE PROMISE and break off diplomatic relations! Expel the embassies, consulates, missions - everyone, in short. And so that" life does not seem like honey to them ", add a third measure fourth economic. Cut off gas to Europe! "
      It’s good that you are not the president. One should only threaten with gas, and in a couple of years they will find alternative sources and our gas will not ... be needed.

      Firstly, where will they get energy sources for these two years, if three days were enough for them to start freezing. Secondly, in the context of a shortage of energy resources, and indeed resources in general, the entire industry will stand up. Thirdly, in the conditions of the crisis and the absence of prom. production on what shishi they will build these "alternative sources"
  • demon ada
    demon ada 21 June 2013 10: 09 New
    +1
    print and send to the government of the Russian Federation and the ruler personally.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 10: 45 New
      0
      Quote: demon ada
      print and send to the government of the Russian Federation and the ruler personally.

      You will get an answer from Dvorkovich - personally laughing
  • Kirgudum
    Kirgudum 21 June 2013 10: 13 New
    +3
    For all of the above, the Russian leadership should have eggs.
    And Putin. with all due respect to him, not quite an independent figure, but looking back at the Russian oligarchy - if they deem open confrontation unprofitable, then I don't even want to think about what will happen to Syria ... After all, there is too much Russian money in the West. Where does Putin's daughter live? In the West. Where are the Russian stabilization fund? In the West! Will Russia be able to oppose the West in this position? I would really like to answer "Yes" without hesitation ...
    1. Alexander-Tomsk
      Alexander-Tomsk 21 June 2013 10: 16 New
      +4
      If the Russian leadership "had eggs" in your understanding, then another flag would have hung over your nickname for a long time (such a tricolor with an eagle). laughing
      1. Gato
        Gato 21 June 2013 11: 11 New
        +2
        And you - so red with a sickle and a hammer laughing
        1. Sandov
          Sandov 21 June 2013 12: 56 New
          +5
          I would also return red with a sickle and a hammer. So many victories have been made under this banner.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 10: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: Kirgudum
      Where does Putin’s daughter live? In the West.

      This is Putin himself told you or read the yellow press wink
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 21 June 2013 10: 16 New
    +3
    Well, of course, it's all good, but you don’t need to flog a fever!
    The measures proposed by the author can lead to fatal consequences.
    The global financial elite has decided to reduce the population ...

    Of course, the Russian Federation has very powerful levers of pressure on the West. It is strange why our management does not use them? The testicles did not grow or is the point shaking for the kids money and real estate abroad?
    I completely forgot about it - the elite in Russia is basically not ours, as are the leaders
  • Ruslandeth
    Ruslandeth 21 June 2013 10: 18 New
    +4
    The author is an idealist and "balabol" as he called himself.

    Yes, he says everything is right, and for good, many of these steps could have an effect on the enemy. But in "realpolitik" everything is far from simple, therefore in a number of moments even the most confident and strong powers are forced to act undercover and in roundabout ways.

    so that “life does not seem to them to be honey”, supplement the third measure with the fourth economic one. Gas cut off to Europe! In 2008, we did it only for a couple of days so that Ukraine would stop stealing our gas, remember?


    take at least that.
    you can’t do that.
    firstly, and so many Western analysts vote on gas as Putin’s strategic weapon. Why convince them of this in practice? demonstrate their insecurity as an economic partner? War is war, but gas is scheduled as long as the contract is in effect and is being paid for. Terminating a contract outside of force majeure is unethical.

    secondly, we need grandmas. Otherwise, what to arm yourself and arm the other boom? what boom to eat?
  • Dejavu
    Dejavu 21 June 2013 10: 23 New
    +2
    I liked the first diplomatic option more than anything else. True, Putin never chops off the shoulder, so he will definitely not cut gas, because these are still our contractual obligations, after all. But I wrote correctly about the allies. Would stick with China at least together shoulder to shoulder, three times foreign "friends" would think about their actions in Syria!
  • Volkhov
    Volkhov 21 June 2013 10: 24 New
    +1
    The Russian Federation has been fighting in Syria for a long time, and earlier in Libya, only on the other side - on the same page of the site there is an article about "Competitions", and besides them mountains of weapons - machine guns are already over, American junk does not suit the rebels, the Chinese drowned yesterday ...
    So those who want to fight for Syria may not go anywhere - buy a book about partisans and traffic data ...
  • Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt 21 June 2013 10: 32 New
    +5
    And remember that even the not-so-smart Angela Merkel had enough
    I would not be so categorical, at least not more stupid than others.
    The bottom line is that Assad needs to deliver not old and not training weapons, but new ones. Let's say the MiG-31B interceptors
    Such interceptors are made to protect the giant Russian airspace. Not sure what exactly these are needed in Syria.
  • ATATA
    ATATA 21 June 2013 10: 42 New
    +2
    The author, did he serve in the army?
    An article in the style of a literary mourner with wringing hands and stretching them to the sky.
    In Syria, it could be a regiment of the same MiG-31B interceptors.

    Or maybe an atomic strike right away?
    In short ...
    The article is militant fantasies.
    good
    I didn’t read further ... People do not even know what they are talking about.
    drinks
  • LaGlobal
    LaGlobal 21 June 2013 10: 45 New
    +3
    I put a plus article! Because I myself dream about this. But looking at the realities, I understand that I do not agree with the following steps under the numbers 3, 4 and 5.

    But the steps will really lead to a full-scale war, and then not a single country can get out of it.

    The author - for president, after Putin, of course, if his actions are as bold as the thoughts in the text!
  • OLDTODD
    OLDTODD 21 June 2013 10: 48 New
    +1
    One word - the author of ЖЖЖЕЁТТТ !!!!
  • uhu189
    uhu189 21 June 2013 10: 48 New
    21
    I perfectly understand the author’s emotional impulse, but not a single item from his proposals is feasible except the first diplomatic one ... Everything else is the road to nowhere. The expulsion of NATO representatives will lead to the removal of all our inspectors at US strategic sites under the START treaty, which will hit us no less hard. Gap deep. relations will lead only to one thing - it will become even more difficult to agree in the event of a worsening crisis. Shutting off gas supplies will hit us even harder, because we will simply lose markets for gas to Europe, and Qatar will take our place, and the gas that was supposed to go to Europe will simply have nowhere to go. We will not receive money in the budget under supply contracts and there will be nothing to fight. Gazprom, as one of the main contributors to the state budget, simply ceases to do this - and then, in the absence of an existing industry, a catastrophe awaits us ... Speeches at the UN, with all the above measures, will not work in any way - since everything will be obvious.
    Further military measures - it’s generally sad ... You can install C-300, even with our military, but it’s not at all a fact that they can be integrated into the country's radar field and the control and data exchange system. In addition to the C-300, Syria will have to modernize the communications and air defense control system - that’s at least half a year’s job, and that’s completely different resources and costs (this is even without taking into account the civil war). There is no single radar field at low altitudes in Syria, it can be created using AWACS aircraft, but Syria does not have them, and if we translate from us, we need appropriate infrastructure (airfields, service points, etc.) MIG-31 to Syria only to the detriment of Russia's defense capabilities, and only with our pilots and our same staff. I’m not sure that there are many airfields in Syria that these interceptors are able to take. In addition, the MIG-31 interceptors, correct me, if I am mistaken, work in tandem with the country's air defense system, and again it is completely not a fact that the Syrian air defense system is able to provide effective interaction with such new systems. About the supply of all this, I do not even say ...
    Small arms of the Russian army are not much different from the weapons of the Syrian army, and the T-72 is quite enough for a war with militants, the T-90 is not required, of which there are probably a hundred in our army.
    And the last thing - maritime support - is an even more impossible thing than the transfer of the MIG-31 ... As part of the Black Sea Fleet, there is only an 1 operating diesel submarine, one more is under repair. The squadron that is now assembled in the Mediterranean Sea from all fleets is the real maximum of what our country can keep in constant form off the coast of the Mediterranean Sea. You can strengthen this grouping, but only for a while, and moreover, limited. We can’t put much more, the state of the fleets simply does not allow ...
    I'm just trying to show that our country does not have as many maneuvers as it seems, and we must pay tribute to Putin and the General Staff, they seem to understand this very well and work as carefully and accurately as possible ...
    Sorry if I got tired of my lengthy presentation, but it would be interesting to read about the UN reform ...
    1. Batman
      Batman 21 June 2013 14: 23 New
      0
      Recently, there has been an active modernization of air defense in Syria ... What about the planes, I only liked the idea of ​​creating a base in Syria, on the other hand, it would also aggravate relations between the Western countries and Russia ... And the unrest is smoothly moving to Turkey, Europe. ..
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 21 June 2013 17: 54 New
      -2
      Most importantly, I wonder how the author offers to finance this all. 8)
  • Micex
    Micex 21 June 2013 10: 50 New
    -5
    useless article
  • falcon
    falcon 21 June 2013 10: 54 New
    +4
    I would like to remind the author of the words of Peter Arkadyevich Stolypin:
    "YOU, GENTLEMEN, NEED GREAT SHAKES, WE NEED GREAT RUSSIA!"
  • saveall
    saveall 21 June 2013 10: 54 New
    +9
    RISI presents: Syria on fire
    1. Sandov
      Sandov 21 June 2013 13: 06 New
      +3
      Cool video, thank you very much. +
    2. Che
      Che 21 June 2013 17: 47 New
      0
      Spread more of these videos so everyone can see where evil lives.
  • IRBIS
    IRBIS 21 June 2013 10: 55 New
    0
    I think that the author did not write anything "fantastic". Americans play such fiction all the time. And no one rounds their eyes - they know that no one will do anything to them. They are confident in their abilities. And what is so "impossible" in the author's proposals? Airbase? Easy!!! Only the will of our leadership. Take Tartus and its surroundings under full protection? No question, we even have a reason. Only there is no special zeal. The brows are frowning, we are threatening with a finger ... And the States do not hesitate to bang on the forehead, if desired. That's the whole difference in politics. So there is no need to reproach the author for being too dreamy, all this is doable.
    1. uhu189
      uhu189 21 June 2013 11: 14 New
      +2
      Unfortunately, it is not as easy as it seems. A huge number of problems and difficulties even at the deployment stage (I’m not even talking about construction), the most pressing issue is the supply of fuel and lubricants and spare parts. In Tartus, in addition to the floating pier and warehouses, in fact, there is nothing. I'm not talking about the fact that the aggravation of the crisis, Turkey may ban transit through the Bosphorus - and then what? BTA can't bring a lot
      1. IRBIS
        IRBIS 21 June 2013 11: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: uhu189
        Unfortunately, it is not as easy as it seems.

        Quote: uhu189
        Turkey could ban transit through the Bosphorus - and then what? BTA can't bring a lot

        Of course, there are difficulties, but nothing of the category is impossible.
        From the Baltic to Syria, the fleet has two weeks of progress. And let Turkey block what he wants. Moreover, according to all international rules, she has the right to do this only in case of war.
        1. uhu189
          uhu189 21 June 2013 12: 36 New
          +2
          Dear IRBIS, everything is possible. But what do you think, how will the actions of our air defense and interceptor calculations in Turkey be regarded if they intercept several Turkish aircraft that have decided to maintain a no-fly zone regime? And if ours does not, then why are they needed there at all? You understand one simple thing - to transfer troops to Syria - meaning to be ready to enter the war with the NATO countries and the monarchies of the Gulf, subject to Iran’s support at best and the tacit consent of China in a fairly remote theater of operations. When supplying via Gibraltar, the delivery shoulder increases many times, and again this strait is controlled by Great Britain, the country of NATO. The Suez Canal controls Egypt, which openly spoke out against Assad. Yes and no, we have so many transport ships in order to maintain a constant rate of supply. All that remains is for aviation to fly through Iran and Iraq - but it will also not be able to cope with the estimated volumes of traffic in the event of hostilities. The reality now is that even in the Black Sea Turkey has more combat-ready ships than in the Black Sea Fleet, we have even survived to this ... (((You understand that the modern Russian army at the moment is just a miserable shadow from the Soviet army. The only thing that remains at a comparable level is the Strategic Missile Forces, but their application means the end of human civilization ...
          1. IRBIS
            IRBIS 21 June 2013 13: 28 New
            +3
            Quote: uhu189
            How will the actions of our air defense and interceptor calculations in Turkey be regarded if they intercept several Turkish aircraft that have decided to maintain a no-fly zone regime?

            I report.
            With our base with our air defense and our calculations, Turkey will not support anyone. No one will block the straits because this, according to international law, is tantamount to a declaration of war.
            It is possible to create a normal base in Tartus, you just need to start doing it. Deliveries and other components of collateral can be decided.
            You can recognize Iran’s right to receive air defense assets and immediately start supplying it with C-300.
            I repeat that the States are not soaring when resolving such issues, they simply do. Of course, the image on the world stage means a lot, but the loss of Syria (and this will certainly happen, if we only persuade) will cost much more. Next will be Iran, and these are our borders.
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 21 June 2013 14: 04 New
              +2
              Do you give a guarantee in this? But if it will be the other way around, and Erdogan will consider that our military will not have the courage to press the trigger, since Turkey is in NATO? And it will begin to act, then what? To speak from a position of strength you need to have strength. But is it with us (with the exception of nuclear weapons)? The question is very complex, and with all this we have traitors for almost the entire government ...
              You correctly argue, but do not take into account one important fact - even the United States, despite its huge (compared to ours) military and transport resources, the deployment of advanced military bases in friendly states (not covered by civil war) takes a lot of time - several months where something. And these are far from full-fledged air bases. And this pleasure is very expensive. Yes, and there is no certainty that we will have time to complete this base - as if the external defense circuit of this base was not the last point not captured by the current state of Syria. There are a lot of unknowns in this equation, and now the situation is very difficult to predict
              1. IRBIS
                IRBIS 21 June 2013 15: 21 New
                0
                Quote: uhu189
                Do you give a guarantee in this? But if it will be the other way around, and Erdogan will consider that our military will not have the courage to press the trigger, since Turkey is in NATO? And it will begin to act, then what? To speak from a position of strength you need to have strength.

                I agree with you on many aspects. But I propose to recall the throw of the airborne battalion on Pristina. Only one battalion, without heavy weapons, but no one dared to get involved in a possible mess. So the time was - Russia generally barely climbed. It’s just that then the leadership didn’t have enough will to develop and consolidate the situation for itself.
                Ergodan is a determined politician, but he is the least like an idiot. Almost everyone in the world already knows what the Russians are capable of. And if you forgot, then you need to remind. Otherwise, no one will reckon with us. We have already "spoken" almost all of our allies.
                1. uhu189
                  uhu189 21 June 2013 15: 40 New
                  +2
                  Dear IRBIS, I just ask you to look wider. The example of a throw to Pristina Airport is certainly a successful example, but in the situation with Syria it is not very true. You take into account another - the policy of the USA and the countries of Europe from that moment has become much tougher. Then they were simply taken aback by surprise, now they are ready for much. The United States, unlike us, did not lose time, they developed and what they could lower then - now I’m afraid it won’t pass. Now there are a lot of people there just sitting and waiting for us to do something stupid, just to throw troops across the border. Our BDK from Sevastopol to the Bosphorus will not have time to reach, and most of Syria will already be captured. Our country is not ready for war, all the more so far from the homeland and supply bases. We have completely destroyed the military-industrial complex, there is no industry, and the entire economy rests solely on the sale of oil and gas, and even the West is trying to crush us. Syria must be supported, I do not even argue with this, and this is being done. You see, it turns out that for Syria we are more useful in the quality in which we are now than if we simply send troops there - in this case, many roads will be closed for us and there will be only the hardest way - the war.
            2. OLDTODD
              OLDTODD 21 June 2013 14: 33 New
              0
              Young man - do you really think so? I'm wildly sorry, but did you serve in the army?
              Article utopia, your reasoning next to utopia. We are now not in a position to be measured against the United States by "pisyunami"!
              1. IRBIS
                IRBIS 21 June 2013 15: 10 New
                +2
                Quote: OLDTODD
                Young man - do you really think so? I'm wildly sorry, but did you serve in the army?

                Thank you for the young man!
                Served and maybe even more than you.
                Warning the following questions:
                - No, not in a wagon train and not fin.partially, in very good troops;
                - Yes, I participated more than once;
                - yes, I have combat ones;
                - I have education and appropriate training. I personally developed and carried out something about which, perhaps, you only read in books and called it fiction.
                But there is nothing utopian in the article. Emotionally, it may be unnecessary, but the general meaning of the article is in a call to concrete actions. The author simply formulated these actions, as if in a civilian way, and not as a military specialist.
  • creak
    creak 21 June 2013 11: 03 New
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    It was smooth on paper and forgot about the ravines ...
  • Gato
    Gato 21 June 2013 11: 07 New
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    President (God, how I hate this filthy foreign word when we already understand that it is not necessary to call the person who heads Russia ?!).

    That's what the author did not like the normal Latin word? But what else to call him? Shanuy ?!
    I did not like the article - Yaroslavna’s next cry, but I don’t put the minuses out of principle.
  • Anti
    Anti 21 June 2013 11: 07 New
    +1
    And remember that even the not-so-smart Angela Merkel had the brains to refuse to participate in this venture in advance.

    Vladimir, do you think that not a smart one can say such a thing, or hold the post of German Federal Chancellor ??
  • Ivan_Ivanov
    Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 11: 08 New
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov


    But during the war, such alarmists, undermining the authority of the leadership, were shot.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 11: 19 New
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      Quote: Ivan_Ivanov

      But during the war, such alarmists, undermining the authority of the leadership, were shot.

      See how you yourself would not be shot.
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 13: 08 New
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        Fearing traitors and alarmists is not worthy. To die for the Motherland is an honor.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 13: 09 New
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          Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
          Fearing traitors and alarmists is not worthy. To die for the Motherland is an honor.

          You would have knotted with weed or alcohol, go to the site sober and in adequate.
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 21 June 2013 13: 15 New
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            Are you this to yourself?
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            You would with weed or alcohol, go to the site sober.

            Please state your thought more clearly.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 21 June 2013 13: 40 New
              +1
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              Please state your thought more clearly.

              Corrected for you, but you never know, you won’t get it, it’s not so complete.
  • deman73
    deman73 21 June 2013 11: 12 New
    +1
    We should not even doubt that our assistance to Syria is our duty to our own country by our people in the protection of our sovereignty
  • harrymur
    harrymur 21 June 2013 11: 32 New
    +5
    after the intervention of hezbollah, everything was so confused there that even Jews clutched their heads, since the civil war was slowly drifting towards interfaith, Salafis, Shiites, Sunnis, it would be worth adding the interests of Kurds and Persians, Turks and Arabs, and of course, without Jews, the author as straightforwardly purely sincerely simplified everything, and there the east is a very delicate matter,
    but one can definitely say the ultimate goal of all the graters is control over Damascus and Beirut, if the despotism of the bay is overwhelmed by local secular regimes in these cities, and this is their goal, then the feudal system will stand, if not, then the next ones under the distribution are just these sheikhs of the bay, amers from there they will dump sooner or later, leave them to eat Iran and Iraq, all the current gentlemen begin
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 21 June 2013 12: 04 New
    +4
    Then I read a post about peaceful life, peaceful life is a big myth, the whole history of mankind is based on wars, they were, are and will be, such is the nature of a man-monkey, there will always be a man-monkey in any state that wants blood, there isn’t Of course, he’s not, he’ll shed the blood of the people, for the idea or his grandmother,

    and I would like to live in peace, raise children, see grandchildren, but I know for sure that everything is fleeting, like our life, I repeat Napoleon’s rule again - you won’t feed your army, you will soon feed someone else’s. Be always ready for any events in life!
    1. Batman
      Batman 21 June 2013 14: 11 New
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      and I would like to live in peace

      go to the forest with my family, or to an uninhabited island)
  • Pacyfyst
    Pacyfyst 21 June 2013 12: 05 New
    +3
    It is written famously. But we can recall 1956. It was enough for Khrushchev to hint that the USSR could intervene in the conflict (then Great Britain, France and Israel attacked Egypt) and the troops were immediately withdrawn. Another thing now is when ministers and smaller officials have assets abroad and are only interested in personal well-being.
  • INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 21 June 2013 12: 26 New
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    Here people argue that it is necessary to send tanks, planes, air defense, to Syria .... all of this is expensive ... and then again write off the billions of billions of Syria’s debts .. for me the decision can be much simpler, you just need to transfer it to Syria’s command time one submarine with nuclear weapons on board, well, or lease as India .. naturally under our strict control of the operation of the submarine ... and immediately everyone will cool ..
    1. Batman
      Batman 21 June 2013 14: 09 New
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      The submarine will unleash a direct intervention in Syria.
  • pinecone
    pinecone 21 June 2013 12: 27 New
    +2
    Quote: Midshipman
    Why is there only MiG 31 - he has nowhere to turn around there, all of Syria 800x400 km



    The territory of Syria is 185 sq. Km. We multiply 180 by 800, we get 400.
    As for the embargo proposed by the author on gas supplies to Europe, then today it is simply unrealistic. The budget of the Russian Federation will collapse.
    1. Batman
      Batman 21 June 2013 14: 08 New
      +1
      As for the embargo proposed by the author on gas supplies to Europe, then today it is simply unrealistic. The budget of the Russian Federation will collapse.

      It’s time to already transfer the sale of Gas and Oil to rubles, at our rate of the Ruble ... Or at least let them give it in gold, but we can produce toilet paper ourselves)
  • MG42
    MG42 21 June 2013 12: 33 New
    +5
    And what, is it bad, if not the first persons of our state, but prokhorovs, Abramovichs, Izmailovs, Deripaskas, become humiliated and once again “agree”? - Do you feel sorry for them ?! - I do not! Indeed, in truth, the place of these "gentlemen" who imagined that we are their slaves, in the mines, on logging sites and construction sites in permafrost regions. So let them at least once work out their "kurshaveli" and "ruble"!

    Of course it’s utopian, but nevertheless big business stole so much and took it abroad that it will never be able to stay and work at sawmills and mines ..
  • rks5317
    rks5317 21 June 2013 12: 53 New
    +2
    I agree with the author on almost all positions. except for one, this will be done. when the Kremlin is RUSSIAN. not wearing a white bale and not speaking YIDISH ...
    1. pinecone
      pinecone 21 June 2013 12: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: rks5317
      I agree with the author on almost all positions. except for one, this will be done. when the Kremlin is RUSSIAN. not wearing a white bale and not speaking YIDISH ...


      Information for consideration http://mt.rostend.ru/blog/43843372123/Eks-ministr-inostrannyih-del-Frantsii:-
      % C2% ABVoyna-protiv-Sirii-byila
      1. rks5317
        rks5317 21 June 2013 13: 36 New
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        PINEKON-The information for reflection is given to me by the state of affairs in Russia and its domestic and foreign policies. But not someone else's articles and comments ...
  • vjhbc
    vjhbc 21 June 2013 12: 53 New
    +6
    Recently, it began to seem to me that the Syrian topic is an act of covering up some very bad business in Russia, and in this connection I would like to ask Russian citizens to say that it’s already possible to go to the mountains in Chechnya to rest a person of Orthodox Slavic appearance
    1. rks5317
      rks5317 21 June 2013 13: 21 New
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      Are you kidding me in Belarus? ... Go for a week to Austria (Germany, Switzerland) - closer. Not more expensive and most importantly, you will return alive and not be enslaved ...
    2. rks5317
      rks5317 21 June 2013 13: 41 New
      -1
      It’s so joking in Belarus-RELAX TO RELAX IN CHECHNYA? ... Go for a week and a half to Austria (Germany. Switzerland) -In the Alps, this is closer. Not more expensive. much more comfortable and. most importantly-stay alive and not fall into slavery ...
    3. Batman
      Batman 21 June 2013 14: 04 New
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      Recently, it began to seem to me that the Syrian topic is an action to cover up some very bad thing in Russia

      This theory also has life ... Personally, I believe that now there is an active purge of the Russian government from any abomination that has been filling power since the 1980s, and from the 1990s it was 90% corrupt traitors ... This is Putin's next step . I don’t know what about the Chechen Republic .., but come to the Chuvash Republic :) We are fine :)
      1. Karabin
        Karabin 22 June 2013 00: 30 New
        +2
        Quote: Batman
        Personally, I believe that now there is an active purge of the Russian government from any abomination that has been filling the government since the 1980s

        The government was formed, mainly by Putin in 2012. This is so, for your reference.
  • crasever
    crasever 21 June 2013 13: 35 New
    +4
    It is necessary to take into account a very important factor that can acquire decisive importance - the Syrian regular army, having suffered several really sensitive defeats, has learned to fight with an experienced and merciless enemy. At the same time, the Syrian soldiers and officers who did not surrender (as in Iraq), the corrupt command, are fighting not for the mystical "ideals of freedom and progress", but literally, for the fate of their relatives and friends ...
  • piotr534
    piotr534 21 June 2013 13: 41 New
    +2
    Such a felt retreat. It is a saying, but a fairy tale, as usual, is ahead ...
    This is probably the only thing you can agree with the author. The article is really a fairy tale, some kind of hash without a hint of analysis. Reading such nonsense is a waste of time. hi
  • bomg.77
    bomg.77 21 June 2013 14: 09 New
    +1
    The article is more like a cry of the soul, especially in the second part. The author correctly says that no matter how big and strong we need friends and allies so that the truth sounds louder, and not one-sided. chemical weapons, nuclear weapons, and so on. Russia does not need to defend Syria for Bashar al-Assad, but first of all for itself. And do not hesitate to supply weapons.
  • Ilya Mikhalych
    Ilya Mikhalych 21 June 2013 14: 11 New
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    The author, apparently, is a very emotional person, and partly naive. Send some for 3 fun ones, and deal with others for more than one day (not even one year). Cover the gas vent to the West is stupid. Prices for almost everything will skyrocket, of course, if you are a sun eater and live in the forest, this will not affect you particularly. And then, who else besides us wants to fight in Syria - Iran, China and all. Nobody needs this war (the West doesn’t count).