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Do Russians go to Syria?

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Last week, several events took place, which formed into links in a single chain. Militants in Syria have stated that the undemocratic troops of Bashar al-Assad are pushing them hard, and therefore they (militants) need military assistance from Western countries to maintain democracy in Syria. At the same time, American marines arrived at the Jordanian-Syrian border. At the same time, Austria decided to withdraw its military contingent from the Golan Heights, anticipating that after the lifting of the EU embargo weapons the warring parties in Syria, the past 31 of May, at the altitudes will be hot. Moscow took advantage of this, talking about overcoming the tension in the Golan by entering Russian peacekeepers there.

After the panicked statements by the “oppositionists” that their affairs were bad, and Bashar Assad won in El Quseir, US Secretary of State John Kerry postponed his planned flight to Israel. The reason for this was a series of meetings that the Obama advisers decided to arrange in Washington. We are talking about weapons assistance to the Syrian militants. This urgency, many analysts believe, was caused precisely by the defeats of the opposition.

As transmits correspondent ITAR-TASS Ivan Lebedev, the closest foreign policy advisers to the president of the United States have planned a series of interdepartmental meetings on the issue of military assistance to the Syrian opposition. As anonymous American representatives said, the decision to provide military assistance to the rebels was not made. But Barack Obama is increasingly inclined to begin supplying arms to them. The meetings will consider the possibility of creating flightless zones in Syria.

Meanwhile, writes MIGnews.com, US Marine Corps units were deployed to the Syrian-Jordanian border. This was announced by the Iranian channel "Press TV". In the Jordanian port of Aqaba, 1000 of US infantrymen from the 26 expedition squad arrived. Americans "under a strong Jordanian escort" was transferred to the border with Syria. Amman and Washington do not comment on reports about the activities of the US military in the kingdom.

We go further. As you know, Austria, in contrast to Britain and France, opposes the arming of Syrian "oppositionists". In this regard, in Austria last Thursday, a difficult but logical decision was made to withdraw the peacekeepers from the Golan.

Deputy Federal Chancellor of Austria, Foreign Minister Michael Spindelegger, confirmed that his country's decision to withdraw his contingent from Golan was made after the EU announced the lifting of the arms embargo against the terrorist groups in Syria. He recalled that Austria warned against the grave consequences of such a decision, reports SANA.

Comrade Spindelegger explained that the government did not suddenly make such a decision. Austria warned that the mission of the Austrian soldiers would be dangerous if the European Union lifted the arms embargo.

The Austrian Ministry of Defense made a plan to recall its military for 4 week. Perhaps this period will be extended to 6 weeks, in particular, if there is no substitute for Austrian soldiers.

On Friday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia was ready to send its peacekeepers to the Golan Heights instead of the outgoing Austrian contingent. Andrei Rezchikov, Ekaterina Yermakova ("Sight"), referring to ITAR-TASS and RIA "News", Give his words:

“Bearing in mind the difficult situation that is developing today in the Golan Heights, the Austrian contingent on the line of demarcation between the Israeli forces and the Syrian army could replace the region leaving this region. Of course, only if the regional powers are interested in this, if the UN Secretary General asks us about this. ”


Comrade Putin recalled that at a recent meeting with Ban Ki-moon during his visit to Russia, he “asked us to increase our participation in UN peacekeeping operations”. In addition, on the eve of the UN Secretary-General asked the international community to send its soldiers to the Golan instead of the Austrian peacekeepers being withdrawn.

At the United Nations, at first, they were delighted with the likely participation of Russian peacekeepers. Farhan Haq, deputy spokesman for the world organization, said: "The UN welcomes any contribution of the international community to peacekeeping efforts in the Golan, and the UNDOF (United Nations Disengagement Observer Force) is of great importance for maintaining peace in the region."

But then official spokesman Martin Nesirky clarified that Russia cannot send peacekeepers to the Golan: after all, according to the document on the zone of separation between Syria and Israel, Russia (as a country that is a permanent member of the UN Security Council) does not have the right to send its peacekeepers to the Golan heights . Nesirky said: "We are grateful to Russia for its willingness to send its troops to the Golan, but the disengagement agreement and protocol between Syria and Israel do not allow the participation of countries - permanent members of the UN Security Council in the UNDOF."

Monday история with peacekeepers received a continuation from the other side.

Israel gave Russia a response to the proposal to place Russian peacekeepers on the Golan Heights, but did not want to advertise it, said RIA News" Deputy Foreign Minister Zeev Elkin before the visit to Moscow starting on Monday. “The position of Israel was openly and clearly expressed during a conversation between the leaders of the two states. There are things that are sometimes better to stay at this level, ”said Elkin, referring to Putin’s telephone conversation on Friday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

On the same Monday, June 10, information spread that Israel was not against the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in the Golan.

Anna Analbaeva, Ekaterina Yermakova ("Sight") cite expert opinion that it is easy to change the rate of 40-year-old forbidding Security Council members to send their peacekeepers there, and Israel itself is not against the deployment of Russian soldiers along its border with Syria. This was stated by the deputy head of the Israeli Ministry of Interior Faina Kirshenbaum, who arrived on a visit to Moscow.

“We heard that some countries decided to withdraw their peacekeepers because (they) were injured. We are very sorry, although there was an agreement that forces would remain there. If President Putin has decided to enter his forces, then I do not think that Israel will resist. We always want someone there to be in order to really monitor the situation, ”she told the Echo of Moscow radio station.

Mr. Nesirki from the United Nations did not say anything to that, but the chairman of the Security Council, a British diplomat, Mark Layal Grant, admitted that it would be possible to implement the initiative of Russia if Israel and Syria agree to this.

It is unlikely that Russia will object to Syria.

Head of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs. On the same day, Alexei Pushkov noted that in the absence of UN peacekeepers in the region, the matter could go as far as the war between Syria and Israel. "It seemed to me that the Russian proposal would give additional guarantees against the Syrian-Israeli war," the channel quotes him. "RT".

Alexey Pushkov is sure that this agreement, which was concluded about 40 years ago, is not relevant, since the situation has changed significantly since that time and "requires a qualitatively new solution."

“Therefore, we are now raising the question of whether this agreement should be revised and updated,” said Pushkov. He stressed that it is too early to talk about the futility of the Russian proposal and “you can still return to it”.

“The issue has not yet been resolved, it is being considered. We need to really do something, because it cannot be ruled out that the Syrian-Israeli issue will also be drawn into large-scale military operations, ”the State Duma deputy said.

10 June, reminds «RT», it became known that on the basis of the 31-th separate airborne assault brigade formed a peacekeeping brigade to perform tasks under the auspices of the UN or CSTO. This was stated by Commander of the Airborne Forces Colonel-General Vladimir Shamanov. His words are quoted by Interfax: “From June 1, in accordance with the directive of the General Staff 31, I have a separate assault assault brigade, which is equipped with contract servicemen at 100%, has the status of a peacekeeping force.”

Alexander Gorbenko ("But") writes:

“Russia's proposal to engage its servicemen is caused precisely by the danger of uncontrolled spread of the conflict to neighboring countries. Now, according to Vitaly Churkin, Russia is proposing to save the mission of UNDOF. At the same time, it is precisely Russian peacekeepers who will best suit the tasks facing the UN contingent. And this task, we recall, is to prevent the resumption of the Syrian-Israeli conflict, to stop provocations and, if possible, to identify their true perpetrators. The Syrian army will do everything possible to prevent accidental shelling of the Russian military from its side. But Israel is not at all interested in the UN observers suffering from the actions of the IDF. Thus, only terrorists will be the losers in the presence of the Russian military in the Golan. ”


There is, however, a different opinion, which leads "BBC".

According to Zeev Khanin, a political scientist at Bar-Ilan University, Israel would like to avoid a repeat of the “two-day war” with Syria in June 1982, when the Israeli aviation fought directly with Soviet air defense. According to the same Khanin, Israel would like to avoid a situation similar to the one in South Ossetia, where Russian peacekeepers became involved in the armed conflict.

According to Khanin, relations between Russia and Israel have reached a level of almost strategic partnership, however, this initiative of V. Putin can put this achievement at risk.

From a “neutral” point of view, Yevgeny Satanovsky, President of the Middle East Institute, estimates the possible deployment of Russian peacekeepers to the Golan. “The fact that our Austrian and Philippine colleagues are deserting from there is quite understandable. When was it for the UN peacekeeping mission to fulfill its functions in the conditions of a real military confrontation. Always these missions were dissolved and instantly disappeared. But given that Russia is one of the founders of the United Nations, a member of the Security Council, we could have separated Israel, with which we have extremely friendly relations, and Syria, with which we have quite friendly relations. At the same time, today we are an absolutely neutral party, ”Svetlana Kalmykova quotes him ("Voice of Russia").

By the way, the deputy head of the Israeli Ministry of Internal Affairs Faina Kirshenbaum, giving an interview to Ekho Moskvy, clarified something, also in the “neutral” plan.

“We want any forces that can take responsibility. It can be Russian, it can be Austrian, it can be Australian forces. It absolutely does not bother us, ”she says. RIA News". According to her, Israel has already faced a situation where peacekeepers were stationed on the Golan Heights, who did nothing and just sat in bunkers. She added: "Therefore, we would like to have forces that will take an active part, if only in maintaining peace and tranquility between us."

Thus, with a positive decision by Israel and Syria on the issue of the deployment of Russian peacekeepers in the Golan, as well as with the appropriate decision of the UN, the peacekeeping brigade comrade Shamanov spoke about could go to fulfill the assigned tasks. It is unlikely that the withdrawn Austrian forces will wish to replace their contingents with any other country. In addition, peacekeepers like those “who did not do anything and just sat in bunkers”, Israel is not needed in the Golan.

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  1. Ivan79
    Ivan79 13 June 2013 08: 34
    78
    It remains only to wish good luck to our guys, if they still go there!
    1. GreatRussia
      GreatRussia 13 June 2013 08: 42
      19
      In addition, peacekeepers like those “who did nothing and just sat in bunkers,” Israel does not need in the Golan.

      It is as if someone is interested in the opinion of Israel about it needed-not needed. )))


      According to Khanin, relations between Russia and Israel have reached a level of almost strategic partnership, however, this initiative of V. Putin can put this achievement at risk.

      Did the state satellites jump sharply to the side of a potential adversary?
      "Petrosyan" deigned to joke?
      1. Orel
        Orel 13 June 2013 08: 55
        49
        "Are the Russians going to Syria?"


        I hope that we are regaining our geopolitical influence and will not be squeezed out of the Middle East. The further the confrontation takes place from our borders, the more security will be in Russia itself. If our guys go to Syria, then they will protect not only the peace and security of this country, but also you and me. If you think more globally, then it becomes clear. We will not be in Syria for the sake of prestige, but for our own safety.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 01
          +5
          Quote: Orel
          If our guys go to Syria, then they will protect not only the peace and security of this country, but also you and me.

          I think the terrorists will not like it! With all the consequences .........
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 35
            +6
            Quote: nycsson
            Quote: Orel
            If our guys go to Syria, then they will protect not only the peace and security of this country, but also you and me.

            I think the terrorists will not like it! With all the consequences .........

            ... the brains of terrorists)))
        2. Cesar_Xnumx
          Cesar_Xnumx 14 June 2013 07: 38
          +6
          Quote: Orel
          We will not be in Syria for the sake of prestige, but for our own safety.

          We will be. If Putin does not collapse. And I hope that does not collapse.
        3. Mohomax
          Mohomax 16 June 2013 20: 30
          0
          I completely agree, it may be that, after the victory of the opposition, the Americans will set up a military bridgehead there, which naturally is not very desirable for you and me. Our peacekeepers are heroes they do not want to kill, that is, they can use weapons only as a last resort
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      3. Nicholas C.
        Nicholas C. 13 June 2013 10: 44
        56
        Against the backdrop of the military successes of the people of Syria and the discussion of the presence of peacekeepers there, I would like to wish Assad to do one more thing:

        so that not a single terrorist from the countries of the former USSR, and even less so Russia, leaves there. They are not needed here.
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 37
          +2
          Quote: Nikolay S.
          Against the backdrop of the military successes of the people of Syria and the discussion of the presence of peacekeepers there, I would like to wish Assad to do one more thing:

          so that not a single terrorist from the countries of the former USSR, and even less so Russia, leaves there. They are not needed here.

          They are generally not needed anywhere ...
      4. redwar6
        redwar6 13 June 2013 19: 01
        +2
        "As if someone is interested in Israel's opinion about it, whether it is needed or not.)))"
        In full. Without the permission of Israel, our troops will not get there.
        1. Cynic
          Cynic 13 June 2013 19: 12
          +2
          Quote: redwar6
          .Without permission of Israel

          Well, it was clearly said _ Consent is!
      5. Quiet
        Quiet 13 June 2013 20: 44
        +1
        Italians in Agan unfastened the militants and allowed them to sleep peacefully !!!!
    2. Vasya Ivanov
      Vasya Ivanov 13 June 2013 09: 02
      31
      Israel will find a way to prevent Russia from being present in the Golan. And if he lets our peacekeepers, only to discredit us. From the Jews we must wait for the trick.
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 13 June 2013 09: 21
        39
        Do not say how much, but I fully trust Shamanov, the combat general knows his work, although it is a pity, the war is always tears and sacrifices. However, the presence of the RUSSIAN SOLDIER, THINKING, will cool the minds of the brassless majahideen and the Europeans. On the Bearded creatures you DO NOT SPARK THE PULSE.
        1. KILLAvolt
          KILLAvolt 13 June 2013 11: 41
          10
          True, the situation is heating up, I would not like the war to start ... "The monkey is playing with a grenade."
        2. DEfindER
          DEfindER 13 June 2013 12: 20
          +9
          Quote: Sergh
          . However, the presence of the RUSSIAN SOLDIER, THINKING, will cool the minds of the stupid majahideen

          Just for some reason, the hunch that with the appearance of our soldiers there, these geeks with special frenzy will attack these fortified areas ... on the one hand, practice and battle testing for our soldiers, and on the other, I would not want victims. One thing is clear that there will be many provocations against the Russians and perhaps not only from the side of the bandits but also from the side of the Jews (like they wanted to be crazy about bandits and got into us, sorry, the error came out) in order to descredit us ..
          1. not good
            not good 13 June 2013 23: 06
            +4
            If ours is not tortured by binding instructions, but if they give the green light to initiative and the free use of available forces and means, then it seems that provocations will quickly end.
        3. Simon
          Simon 13 June 2013 15: 58
          +2
          By the way, in Syria there is our fleet, which at any moment will come to the aid of our peacekeepers. Maybe many more amers' favorites are afraid of this and are whiningly asking that the Russians not be allowed there.
          1. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 41
            0
            Quote: Simon
            By the way, in Syria there is our fleet, which at any moment will come to the aid of our peacekeepers. Maybe many more amers' favorites are afraid of this and are whiningly asking that the Russians not be allowed there.

            How will the fleet help?
        4. nycsson
          nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 04
          +2
          Quote: Sergh
          On Bearded Beasts DO NOT SPARK THE PULSE.

          Do you know how many there are in the Caucasus and Volga region? They’ll definitely not spare the bullets!
        5. Che
          Che 14 June 2013 22: 37
          0
          Serge, our nevertheless enter only with broad powers, so as to prevent rat excesses. You have to protect your own.
      2. Katani
        Katani 13 June 2013 13: 45
        +3
        Precisely noticed! When ours appear there - wait for trouble! Amer is already there ...
        Vanga was saying something about it and everything is going to this, I would not want to see the prophecy ....
        1. Simon
          Simon 13 June 2013 16: 03
          +2
          Listen, it’s not for nothing that our fleet drove to Syria. Exactly, Putin must have noticed everything in front of him.
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 13 June 2013 16: 32
            +6
            Quote: Simon
            Exactly, Putin must have noticed everything before

            In my staircase in the dashing 90s there lived an elderly person.
            So he told us back in those years that the Olympics would be held in Sochi and that it was necessary to buy land and take the construction business there. We all looked at him and "marveled" at such a strange awareness. And then the events of all the famous really happened, and everyone who did not believe his words was very surprised.
            In general terms, everything has been decided for years to come, only nuances and colors change.
            I hope that only after the deployment of "our peacekeepers" will not happen the same as in Yugoslavia. BN surrendered Serbov a little later and with a good face on his face. BUT WE HAVE DONE THE SERBS.
          2. Rink
            Rink 13 June 2013 23: 59
            0
            Quote: Simon
            Listen, it’s not for nothing that our fleet drove to Syria. Exactly, Putin must have noticed everything in front of him.

            A good player sees the situation five moves ahead.
            Especially if he has the initiative. Then the enemy only has time to turn, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge.
            1. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 46
              +1
              Quote: Skating rink
              Quote: Simon
              Listen, it’s not for nothing that our fleet drove to Syria. Exactly, Putin must have noticed everything in front of him.

              A good player sees the situation five moves ahead.
              Especially if he has the initiative. Then the enemy only has time to turn, wherever you throw - everywhere a wedge.

              I think that amers test us for lice. Type, we will die or not.
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 08
          -3
          Quote: Katani
          When ours appear there - wait for trouble!

          That's for sure! Personally, I am categorically against our presence in the golan! It’s one thing to help with weapons, another thing to send our guys to this hell. So we have a demographic crisis: on 58 women 21 man! There wasn’t enough to shake up a heap in the war!
          1. KazaK Bo
            KazaK Bo 13 June 2013 21: 45
            +7
            ... right ... we will sit at home and wait for the Mujahideen, fighters for faith and cut our throats to come to us ....
            When, under the USSR, our interests extended to all 360 *, we were treated differently and respected much more throughout the world ... there was also less "practice of degrading the world"!
            Another question is whether they will let us go there. In my opinion, never. This will immediately derail all the efforts of the most shitty countries to establish their world order. And most importantly, this will drastically weaken their control of the oil-bearing areas. And this is like death.
            We have lost our former influence in the world. For too long we sat at home and waited for the manna of heaven ...
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 13 June 2013 23: 36
              +1
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              Another question is whether they will let us go there. In my opinion, never.

              And in my opinion they’ll let me go and how!
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              This will immediately derail all the efforts of the most shitty countries to establish their world order.

              It is interesting to know how?
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              ..right ... we’ll sit at home and wait for the Mujahideen, fighters for faith and cut our throats to come to us ....

              No need to wait, you need to act! Carry out industrialization, revive the army and navy! Or do you think you need to get involved in the battle with bare heels? Respect the strong, not the crazy!
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 June 2013 23: 53
                +3
                Quote: nycsson
                Respect the strong, not the crazy!

                Such common sense is rarely seen here on the site. Most prefer caps
            2. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 56
              +3
              Quote: KazaK Bo
              ... right ... we will sit at home and wait for the Mujahideen, fighters for faith and cut our throats to come to us ....
              When, under the USSR, our interests extended to all 360 *, we were treated differently and respected much more throughout the world ... there was also less "practice of degrading the world"!
              Another question is whether they will let us go there. In my opinion, never. This will immediately derail all the efforts of the most shitty countries to establish their world order. And most importantly, this will drastically weaken their control of the oil-bearing areas. And this is like death.
              We have lost our former influence in the world. For too long we sat at home and waited for the manna of heaven ...

              Ilya, who is from Murom, also sat on the stove for a long time at home ...
          2. Semen Semyonitch
            Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 48
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            Quote: Katani
            When ours appear there - wait for trouble!

            That's for sure! Personally, I am categorically against our presence in the golan! It’s one thing to help with weapons, another thing to send our guys to this hell. So we have a demographic crisis: on 58 women 21 man! There wasn’t enough to shake up a heap in the war!

            But it seems to me, on the contrary, it would cool very hot pots ...
      3. Cynic
        Cynic 13 June 2013 17: 02
        11
        Quote: Vasya Ivanov
        And if he lets our peacekeepers, only to discredit us

        08.08.08
        Do not forget? Our peacekeepers were there too! When hitting them, the answer will be stopudovo!
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 10
          +1
          Quote: Cynic
          When hitting them, the answer will be stopudovo!

          Hit will definitely be! How to respond?
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 13 June 2013 19: 25
            +1
            Quote: nycsson
            How to respond?


            Isn’t it clear?
            But just which way ?!
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 13 June 2013 20: 08
              0
              Quote: Cynic
              Isn’t it clear?

              It’s not clear to me. From a military point of view.
              Quote: Cynic
              But just which way ?!

              Come on you! Not serious! Again from a military point of view.
          2. Che
            Che 14 June 2013 22: 44
            +2
            Nixon, is it really unclear to destroy rat provocateurs without pity. Both Jews and Syrians will benefit from this.
        2. il grand casino
          il grand casino 13 June 2013 19: 27
          -4
          What answer? Do you want to fling nuclear weapons at terrorists scattered throughout Syria? Or send aviation and fleet with the same intentions
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 13 June 2013 20: 09
            +2
            Quote: il grand casino
            Do you want to fling nuclear weapons at terrorists scattered throughout Syria? Or send aviation and fleet with the same intentions

            Don’t be friends with your head at all?
            1. il grand casino
              il grand casino 13 June 2013 20: 40
              -1
              Quote: nycsson
              Quote: il grand casino
              Do you want to fling nuclear weapons at terrorists scattered throughout Syria? Or send aviation and fleet with the same intentions

              Don’t be friends with your head at all?


              That irony was ...
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 13 June 2013 21: 10
                -2
                Quote: il grand casino
                That irony was ...

                Well, you have jokes ........
                1. il grand casino
                  il grand casino 13 June 2013 21: 15
                  -1
                  Yes, I kind of even put a question mark, so that someone would not think)))
          2. Konstantm
            Konstantm 13 June 2013 23: 09
            -2
            Quote: il grand casino
            What answer? Do you want to fling nuclear weapons at terrorists scattered throughout Syria? Or send aviation and fleet with the same intentions

            So it’s better to have a wonderful super vacuum ...
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F8RoquU8kc
      4. VladUrich
        VladUrich 14 June 2013 17: 54
        +1
        Some have already tried to make peacekeepers a catch. Israel saw how we can force the world.
    3. RUSSIA 2013
      RUSSIA 2013 13 June 2013 10: 02
      14
      I don’t hear something, the traitor general knows how to put it mildly crap. The army is soon crushing in Geneva and there will be no reason to gather, it’s better, good luck to the Syrian army and the Syrian people.
    4. Maks111
      Maks111 13 June 2013 10: 49
      14
      You need to send well-trained fighters, tk. when the Syrian "oppositionists" see the flag of the Russian Federation and Russian soldiers, it will be like a red rag for a bull for them. IMHO.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 13 June 2013 19: 02
        +7
        It goes without saying, but first of all, our guys don't need to tie their hands! And then no matter how the cartridges are taken away, the champions of international law are left. Don't give a damn about all the restrictions. Israel launched a missile "accidentally" in the direction of our positions - it is no coincidence that we cover the launcher! The plane again immediately nose to the ground, without hesitation. The "oppositionists" attacked the block post - immediately support from ships about ten kilometers in depth and an air attack. The contingent must be manned and equipped so that flies are afraid to fly nearby! This will be the correct peacekeeping operation ...
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 05: 53
          0
          Quote: Mikhail3
          It goes without saying, but first of all, our guys don't need to tie their hands! And then no matter how the cartridges are taken away, the champions of international law are left. Don't give a damn about all the restrictions. Israel launched a missile "accidentally" in the direction of our positions - it is no coincidence that we cover the launcher! The plane again immediately nose to the ground, without hesitation. The "oppositionists" attacked the block post - immediately support from ships about ten kilometers in depth and an air attack. The contingent must be manned and equipped so that flies are afraid to fly nearby! This will be the correct peacekeeping operation ...

          Where will the aviation attack "come from? Yes, you are a strategist, my friend)))
    5. viktorR
      viktorR 13 June 2013 12: 11
      +9
      It is somehow suspicious ... everything is not against, and the United States and Israel are all like and would not mind that our peacekeepers appear there. But do they want to drag us into some sort of big mess? Or we’ll just put peacekeepers there, Israel will make a provocation, we will snap at Israel and we are already an interested party, and they will finally try to divide us with Syria at the UN Security Council level
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 13 June 2013 12: 14
        15
        In fact, we are from the time of the Union, there is an interested party!
        1. Genady1976
          Genady1976 13 June 2013 17: 53
          +5
          quietly it's a secret
      2. Orel
        Orel 13 June 2013 12: 19
        +9
        It is somehow suspicious ... everything is not against, and the United States and Israel are all like and would not mind that our peacekeepers appear there. But do they want to drag us into some sort of big mess?


        It is unlikely that they want to draw into something, we are already drawn into it. I think everything is much more prosaic. Settling the USA, Europe and Persian monarchies in Syria. And now they need to get out of it somehow. And without the help of the UN and peacekeepers, this will now be difficult to do. Peacekeepers from every nook and cranny of our planet will not go there. Assad will not agree to the presence of peacekeepers from the opposing countries of Syria. All that remains is Russia, which has managed to maintain relations with both Israel and Syria, despite everything that happened.
        1. MstislavHrabr
          MstislavHrabr 13 June 2013 17: 22
          0
          And how do you look at the presence of peacekeepers from Belarus or Kazakhstan ?!
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 13 June 2013 17: 34
            +3
            And what did they forget there? The interests of completely different people are involved there, for example, the paddlers can easily be there (if they do not let us in)
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      4. Batman
        Batman 13 June 2013 13: 03
        +4
        How suspicious ...

        That is, that is ... Any actions that the United States likes are already suspicious ...
      5. Cynic
        Cynic 13 June 2013 17: 12
        +3
        Quote: viktorR
        at the level of the UN Security Council

        Yes, as if Russia is a permanent member of it with the right to veto.
        It turns out
        1. Konstantm
          Konstantm 13 June 2013 23: 40
          0
          Quote: Cynic
          Quote: viktorR
          at the level of the UN Security Council

          Yes, as if Russia is a permanent member of it with the right to veto.
          It turns out

          A face that is very familiar bully
      6. nycsson
        nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 26
        0
        Quote: viktorR
        It is somehow suspicious ... everything is not against, and the United States and Israel are all like and would not mind that our peacekeepers appear there. But do they want to drag us into some sort of big mess?

        In fact of the matter! A wise politician is one who has not drawn his country into war! Not in our position to meddle there: demography, economics, etc.
    6. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 June 2013 12: 16
      11
      Syrian Air Force strikes militants near Lebanese city of Arsal


      Lebanese city of Arsal (photo: almanar.com.lb)

      On June 12, a Syrian air force helicopter struck clusters of Islamic militants near the Lebanese city of Arsal. According to the Al-Manar TV channel, two rockets exploded in the vicinity of the village, one in the city itself. As a result of the explosion of the latter, a Lebanese citizen was slightly wounded.

      The Lebanese Armed Forces Command issued a statement in which it threatened that it would henceforth respond to such actions by the Syrian army. "Units deployed in the area have taken the necessary steps to immediately respond to any such violation," the statement said.

      What "necessary measures" the Lebanese military is talking about is not entirely clear, since the country's authorities have almost no personnel army units directly near the city of Arsal. But in this settlement, Islamist militants feel great, who have created their bases here for attacks on Syrian cities in the provinces of Damascus and Homs (Arsal is located 15 km. From the border with Damascus province and 35 km. From the province of Homs).

      Lebanese media said that the Syrian missiles hit the checkpoint established by the militants at Arsal and their field hospital on the outskirts of the city.



      The command of the Syrian army acknowledged the fact of striking the territory of Lebanon, noting that the target was groups of terrorists who fled to Lebanon from the attacks of government forces. The official statement of the army leadership says that "the army will continue to fulfill its responsibilities to protect the citizens of the SAR, while respecting the sovereignty of the Republic of Lebanon."

      The sovereignty of Lebanon was suddenly remembered in the United States. For many years, the American administration was not at all bothered by the constant violations of Lebanese airspace by Israeli aviation, but the actions of the Syrian Air Force in the territory of this country caused a violent reaction.

      State Department spokesman Jen Psaki called on Syria "to respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Lebanon and not take actions that threaten to involve this country in the conflict."

      After the defeat of Islamist and SSA gangs near the Syrian city of El Quseir, part of the gangs fled to Lebanon, including to their bases in the Arsal region. Syrian aircraft have repeatedly attacked camps and clusters of militants.
    7. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 June 2013 12: 17
      +6
      Islamist gangs pushed back from Ming airfield in Syrian province of Aleppo



      The command of the Syrian army on the eve denied the statements of the militants and a number of media outlets that the Islamist bandit groups were able to seize part of the Ming (Minneg) airbase north of Aleppo. According to official data, the military "successfully repulsed attempts by terrorists to approach the airfield."

      Recall that on June 5-11, militants of the Jaysh Muhajirin wal-Ansar and Jabhat al-Nusra groups made several attempts to storm a complex of buildings on the territory of the Ming military airfield. First, they were subjected to shelling from mortars, RPGs and one tank gun, after which on June 10, bandit groups of extremists went on a "decisive assault." It was attended by up to 15 suicide bombers and personally the leader of "Jaysh Mukhajirin" Ingush "amir" Abu Umar Ash-Shishani.

      According to the bandits from the Russian North Caucasus, who make up the backbone of the Jaysh Mukhajirin group, during the day they managed to capture a water tower and a radar complex (although the latter was photographed from a decent distance). Militants from "Jabhat al-Nusra" generally announced on the evening of June 11 that part of the main building had already been seized.

      In fact, really intense skirmishes took place on June 10-11 directly on the territory of the base (which is confirmed by the videos of militants posted on the network), but neither the buildings, nor even the buildings of the air base were seized on June 10, or even occupied on June 11, for a very short time.

      The last assault attempt made on the night of June 11 was also repulsed. About 20 attackers were killed, including the "chief of staff" of the Islamists, Abu Talha Iraqi. In addition to this, the positions of the bandit groups were subjected to airstrikes, as a result of which they suffered losses and were again thrown out of the air base.

      Despite the significant losses of the gangs, it’s too early to talk about the deblockade of the air base. At the same time, with the start of the operation to liberate Aleppo, the chances of success for the militants at the Ming airfield are becoming less and less. On June 12, the Syrian Air Force again launched a series of attacks on their shelters around the perimeter of a military facility.

      A source: http://warsonline.info
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 06: 27
        0
        According to the bandits from the Russian North Caucasus, who make up the backbone of the Jaysh Muhajirin group, they managed to capture a water tower during the day ...
        and a couple of sewer manholes ...
    8. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 13 June 2013 12: 19
      +1
      Over 70 people killed in terrorist attacks and armed attacks in Iraq


      Baghdad, at the site of the attack in the Sadr City area

      A wave of violence swept through Iraq again after several days of relative calm. Several major terrorist attacks, roadside explosions and armed attacks took place in different parts of the country during the day. No group claimed responsibility for the attacks on Monday, but Iraqi officials and security officials are confident they were organized by al-Qaeda fighters.

      A triple attack took place at a vegetable market in the city of Judaida Al-Shat in the province of Diyala. The explosions killed at least 13 people, about 50 were injured. A local farmer, Hassan Hadi, who sold watermelons, said that after the first explosion at the entrance to the market, he ran away from smoke and dust, and at that time a second explosion was heard not far from where he was standing. The third explosion occurred around the same place, the Iranian television station Press TV reports.

      In the city of Mosul on the evening of June 10, several car bomb explosions took place. As a result, 29 people died, more than 80 were injured. “We received many bodies, most of them were members of the security forces,” said Anwar Al-Juburi, a doctor at the Mosul hospital.

      Baghdad on Monday came under terrorist attacks in two areas. First, two roadside bombs went off near a cafe in Sadr City in the northeast of the Iraqi capital. Four people were killed. Then a car bomb exploded in a Baghdad market in the Tiji area. Seven more people were killed.

      Explosions also occurred in the cities of Tuz Khurmatu, Suleiman Bek and Madain in Kirkuk province. A large number of people died. There is no exact data on losses from these cities. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said al-Qaeda terrorists and "the remnants of the old Baath regime" were behind the attacks.

      In the city of Fallujah, armed Islamists shot the commander of the local Sahwa militia Sheikh Abdul-Rahman Al-Rashid Issawi. He was driving back from a Sahwa gathering north of Ziraa Dijla town. ”Al-Issawi himself was killed and two of his bodyguards were injured, Al-Shorfa reported.

      On the same day, Iraqi police and security services ambushed the leader of al-Qaeda in the province of Salahaddin Karim Jihad. As a result of a successful special operation, he was detained. Along with him were found foreign currency, three improvised explosive devices, 30 mobile phones, which are used to remotely control the explosion. According to police, the Jihad was heading to downtown Samarra to meet with militants.
    9. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 13 June 2013 14: 08
      +2
      Quote: Ivan79
      It remains only to wish good luck to our guys, if they still go there!


      Also Israel and Syria :) I think "our guys" are quite suitable for breeding such hot guys in the corners ...
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 15
        0
        Quote: Geisenberg
        I think "our guys" are quite suitable for breeding such hot guys in the corners ...

        What price ??? Or do you think they’ll pat them on the head ?!
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Over 70 people killed in terrorist attacks and armed attacks in Iraq

        Quote: Geisenberg
        Syrian Air Force strikes militants near Lebanese city of Arsal

        The region is "sitting" on a powder keg! God forbid we stick in there!
    10. nycsson
      nycsson 13 June 2013 18: 58
      -2
      Quote: Ivan79
      It remains only to wish good luck to our guys, if they still go there!

      No need to go there! It will be hot there soon! If they go there, it will mean that Russia is embroiled in an armed conflict with all the ensuing consequences. There terrorists are not measured! Mr. GDP’s very short-sighted move!
      1. vBR
        vBR 14 June 2013 00: 17
        +3
        Are you sure that there is nothing more to lose in Syria? Russian, and preferably CSTO, troops are an additional guarantee against massive air operations and no-fly zones. We have to deal with the terrorists, but this is not the worst option. The last ally and, by the way, a true friend in the BV must be saved at all costs
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 20
          -2
          Under the UN mandate, this is unrealistic. The UN mandate relates to one particular strip of land, and then - with severe restrictions. The function of the peacekeepers there is to record violations.
          1. Genady1976
            Genady1976 14 June 2013 00: 22
            +2
            Quote: Pimply
            Under the UN mandate, this is unrealistic. The UN mandate relates to one particular strip of land, and then - with severe restrictions. The function of the peacekeepers there is to record violations.

            yes do not care drinks drunk knee-deep sea
            it’s necessary not to fix but to prevent, I think
      2. Che
        Che 14 June 2013 22: 54
        +1
        The region is hot yes, but for how many years Jews have been living and surviving there. We will learn from them. There’s simply nowhere to go.
    11. Atrix
      Atrix 14 June 2013 01: 02
      +1
      America is likely to conduct operations in Syria recourse
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 14 June 2013 01: 09
        +1
        what are they going to do there
    12. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g 14 June 2013 01: 06
      +3
      Suspicions are that Jordan is preparing to attack Syria instead of Turkey. The United States pulled up the paratroopers, the technique that Jordan would leave to have something to attack. Plus, something that is not stated will be left too. Type of teaching, but really just a legitimate transfer of equipment and instructors ...
      And why not push Jordan and Russia between their foreheads to see what happens.
      It has already happened to Georgia - apparently not everyone has learned the result ...
      as they say - "repetition is the mother of learning")))
      have to repeat for the dull.
      but I hope that there will be no bloodshed ...
    13. RUSSIA 2013
      RUSSIA 2013 14 June 2013 08: 01
      +2
      Syrian opposition recognizes army progress in Homs
      Blog by admin
      The news is published by Farsnews:

      Tehran (FNA) - The Syrian army has made progress in a district in the central part of Homs where violent clashes are taking place as the army tries to regain control of the entire city, according to a report from the British Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

      In a telephone conversation with Agence France Presse on Wednesday, observatory director Rami Abdul Rahman said the Syrian army had regained control of Wadi al-Sayeh, a large part of the Homs district.

      “The Syrian army is actively bombarding Wadi al-Sayyekh and is cautiously advancing in an area where violent clashes with militants take place,” he said.

      Abdul Rahman added that the Syrian army had recently entered Wadi al-Sayyekh, but was unable to advance due to sniping snipers, noting that Wadi al-Sayyekh separates Old Homs from the al-Khaledeya area.

      Both regions are strongholds of militants and have been besieged by the Syrian army for over a year.

      “If the Syrian army controlled Wadi al-Sayyekh, it would be much easier for them to manage the areas of Old Homs and al-Khaledey,” said Abdul Rahman, arguing that progress in Wadi al-Sayyekh is part of the army’s attempt to take control of the entire city Homs.

      Syrian news agency SANA also reported that the Syrian army continues to harass rebel groups in and around Homs, inflicting heavy casualties.

      “Peace and security have been restored in the Wadi al-Sayyekh district,” SANA adds.
      P, S I can add, to the dog in the form of opposition, dog death, as I wrote earlier, Idris (TRAITOR OF THE SYRIAN PEOPLE) in a panic wants Russian weapons and ammunition, in no case not to sell to Western countries, whatever benefits they promise us.
    14. CHILD
      CHILD 14 June 2013 15: 23
      +1
      DON'T LET US HERE, YES AND SENSE? AND IF THERE IS A DESIRE FOR THERE TO UNCERTAIN WATER, LET THE KURDS BE EXPANDED)))) THEY LIKE DREAM ABOUT THE KURDISH .... THE TURKS ARE NOT ASIR AS LIKE TO ... INITIALLY WE PLAY ON THIS FIELD ????? LET'S RESPOND TO YELLOW REVOLUTIONS THE SAME .... EVERYWHERE THERE ARE DISSATISFIED OR TOO SATISFIED .... SENSE TO PLAY BY THE RULES, IF WE FOLLOW THEM ONLY !!!!!
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    16. Quiet
      Quiet 20 June 2013 00: 06
      0
      It remains only to wish good luck to our guys, if they still go there!

      ... and restless sleep with an eye on Russia for those who try to attack the peacekeepers. Everyone still has a fresh shift in the preza phase of Georgia on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX and with what it came back wassat stop
  2. alexdol
    alexdol 13 June 2013 08: 38
    11
    I especially "liked" the statement: we could separate Israel, with which we have extremely friendly relations, and Syria, with which we have quite friendly relations.
    Recently there was an article by ESAULA "A friend is known in trouble". So my question arises: who is our REAL friend? It turns out - ISRAEL !!! However, this does not really surprise me ...
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 13 June 2013 08: 53
      +5
      Do you want to make an enemy? Do good to your friend. Standing between its "friends", Russia is deprived of the right of military assistance to "friends", because it will be considered a participating party and will have to introduce other peacekeepers and isolate Russia from the "friend" on the contrary.
    2. Oberst_71
      Oberst_71 13 June 2013 09: 01
      +4
      it was not in vain that Medvedev (or Mendel, God knows him) was one of his first presidential laws to abolish visas to Israel.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 13 June 2013 09: 13
        +9
        Quote: Oberst_71
        It is not in vain that Medvedev (or Mendel, God knows him) was one of his first presidential laws to abolish visas to Israel.

        And what does this have to do with it? Nothing that Putin now wants to cancel visas with a geologic survey?
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 28
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And what does this have to do with it? Nothing that Putin now wants to cancel visas with a geologic survey?

          Do not speak! Anyone will come ........
          1. SlavaP
            SlavaP 13 June 2013 23: 22
            0
            Yeah, I'm on my way ... I’ll only pack my suitcase! belay
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 13 June 2013 23: 40
              +1
              Quote: SlavaP
              Yeah, I'm on my way ... I’ll only pack my suitcase!

              I generally mean representatives with non-traditional sexual orientation! If you relate to them, then you have nothing to do with us!
            2. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 06: 35
              +2
              Quote: SlavaP
              Yeah, I'm on my way ... I’ll only pack my suitcase! belay

              Come on to us, to Kolyma ??? Take only two suitcases ...
      2. ultra
        ultra 13 June 2013 11: 46
        +6
        Quote: Oberst_71
        canceled visas to israel.

        Well, let's start that it was on a reciprocal basis! And it brought, in my opinion, some advantages! A lot of people go to Israel, and not only ethnic Jews! As far as I remember, we overtook the USA by tourist flow to Israel! hi
        1. Rustiger
          Rustiger 13 June 2013 19: 04
          +6
          Quote: ultra
          As far as I remember, we overtook the USA by tourist flow to Israel!
          Well, start with the fact that it was on a reciprocal basis!

          ... ... ... And let's continue with the fact that more "nishtyaks" are always received by the country WHERE the tourists came, than the country from which they are traveling. Do many yavrov, for example, fly to inspect Baikal or Karelia?
          About six months ago, there was an article on the network in which the deputy. Minister of Health of Israel (I may be wrong in the title and position), expressed his "opinion" that in the establishment of order / development, etc. Russian medicine, Israeli clinics ARE NOT INTERESTED IN THE FIRST TIME! How. ... ...

          For our own money, we will drive tusks to Israel to repair and cut out the appendicos, and to us, within the framework of "medical tourism", it is rushing to give birth to all women from Wed. Asia.
          Obstetrics again for our money !!!
          Quote: ultra
          And it brought, in my opinion, some advantages!

          What "pluses" did you and I personally get?
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 30
            -1
            Quote: Rustiger
            What "pluses" did you and I personally get?

            Krasnodar littered with Israeli carrots! wassat
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 13 June 2013 19: 35
              -1
              Quote: nycsson

              Krasnodar littered with Israeli carrots! wassat

              You are joking. Well, I understand Novosibirsk, but Krasnodar?
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 13 June 2013 20: 02
                0
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                You are joking. Well, I understand Novosibirsk, but Krasnodar?

                Residents of Krasnodar know about this? I'll be in the store to check where the carrots come from.
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 13 June 2013 20: 16
                  +2
                  Quote: Setrac
                  Residents of Krasnodar know about this?

                  I know! She is still from China!
                  Quote: Setrac

                  I'll be in the store to check where the carrots come from.

                  From Krasnodar or what? Do not forget to see where the potatoes, garlic and apples come from!
                  1. KazaK Bo
                    KazaK Bo 13 June 2013 21: 57
                    +6
                    Here in Krasnodar, as a result of the titanic efforts of our governor:
                    - potatoes ............... from Egypt
                    - carrots, radishes ........ from Israel
                    - apples, tomatoes .......... from Turkey
                    .......................................
                    Further list?
                    1. nycsson
                      nycsson 13 June 2013 23: 43
                      0
                      Quote: KazaK Bo
                      We have in Krasnodar

                      Hello fellow countryman!
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 13 June 2013 20: 13
                +4
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                You are joking.

                No, I'm not joking!
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Well, I understand Novosibirsk, but Krasnodar?

                I'm shocked myself! I won’t get used to it. As you enter the market, you want to cry! Carrots and garlic - Israel, potatoes - Egypt, apples - Poland and Moldova, etc. request
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 13 June 2013 20: 50
                  0
                  Celery is everywhere Israeli, by the way 8)
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 13 June 2013 21: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Celery is everywhere Israeli, by the way 8)

                    A friend of mine worked in the Ministry of Agriculture of the Rostov Region, and so, this region depends on food imports for 60%! 40% is produced by themselves, and 60% is purchased over the hill!
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 13 June 2013 21: 45
                      +2
                      Little Desert Israel 8)
                      1. Day 11
                        Day 11 13 June 2013 21: 54
                        +9
                        You understand very well who steers our ministries and other things ...! They also help their historical! This is serious
                      2. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 01
                        +1
                        Definitely, some Jews, they are all to blame. In Europe, too, see sitting everywhere. No, the fact that Israel is one of the world leaders in agricultural production has nothing to do with it.
                      3. Che
                        Che 14 June 2013 23: 00
                        +2
                        Pimpled, but there is evidence of how many Jews are all over the world, not only in the Negev desert? Probably exceed the population of Israel itself.
                      4. Rustiger
                        Rustiger 15 June 2013 00: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Che
                        Pimpled, but there is evidence of how many Jews are all over the world, not only in the Negev desert?

                        He'll tell lies "by inertia", I will say for him -
                        There are a number of reasons explaining why it is not possible to answer more precisely this question.
                        The first - in many countries - for example, in the USA, England, France, where the number of Jews is large - there are no accurate statistics on ethnic grounds.
                        The second is in those countries where Jews are being discriminated or persecuted today, Jews often tried to hide their Jewishness.
                        The third is where the processes of assimilation (mixing with the surrounding population) were especially strong - as, for example, in the territory of the former USSR - today there are many people whose mothers (or the mothers of their mothers) were Jewish. These people are Jews in halachah, but are registered in official documents as non-Jews and often do not themselves know that they are Jews.
                        All this, of course, greatly complicates attempts to determine the exact number of Jews in the world. However, this number can be roughly estimated using data from local communities, censuses, surveys, etc. Based on the results of these data, estimates are made of the Jewish population of each country — for example, an English researcher Martin Gilbert did this in the Atlas on the History of the Jewish People.
                        A summary of these statistics suggests that there are approximately 14 million Jews on the globe today.
                        More than four million live in the state of Israel.
                        The largest community of the diaspora is located in the United States and has approximately five and a half million Jews.
                        In the second place in the diaspora is the CIS, where, according to official statistics, about one and a half million Jews live. Given the above about assimilation and about Jews who do not know about their Jewry, we can assume that this number is actually much larger.

                        Relatively large Jewish communities are also found in France, Ukraine, England, Argentina, Canada, Brazil, South Africa and Australia.
                        It is noteworthy that in 2007 there were 13,2 million Jews in the world. Compared to 2006, an increase of approximately 200.000 people was noted. These data are contained in the report of the Institute for Jewish Planning.
                        In 2008, the number of Jews in the diaspora declined by 100.000, while the Jewish population of Israel increased by 300.000. Currently, between 30 and 40 percent of all Jews in the world live in Israel, the report said.

                        According to a survey conducted by the institute and included in the report, most American Jews are worried about the safety of life in Israel.
                        Respondents from Jewish communities in Europe and Latin America say they don’t feel too close to Israel.
                        According to the report, Jewish communities abroad are divided in two: among religious communities, the feeling of belonging to Israel is growing, among Jews prone to interethnic marriages, the feeling of belonging to Israel and world Jewry is clearly weakening.

                        The post-Soviet space is becoming for Jews a "backup airfield" in case of "big trouble" in the West.
                        /http://digestweb.ru/33137-evrei-sdelayut-rossiyu-svoej-shtab-kvartiroj.html/
                      5. Pimply
                        Pimply 15 June 2013 01: 43
                        -1
                        Dear, you accuse me of lying. Bother explaining where I lied?
                      6. Rustiger
                        Rustiger 15 June 2013 01: 55
                        +1
                        First, "send" to. ... ... to the dictionary. To understand the difference between "lied" and "lie".
                        And it's not about the timing of what is happening, but about the ASSUMPTION. To which I have the right, as well as any of the "present" here.

                        Sind Sie nach mir, Major pimply?
                      7. Arkan
                        Arkan 15 June 2013 02: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Pimply
                        Bother explaining where I lied?

                        To start, change the flag to your own, the most honest you are ours. And many visitors don’t even know where the Mind, Honor, and Conscience of our era live. laughing
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 06: 40
          +1
          Quote: Pimply
          Celery is everywhere Israeli, by the way 8)

          Doesn’t grow anywhere else ???
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 15 June 2013 01: 45
            -2
            I speak from the experience of entering the shops of several cities
            1. Rustiger
              Rustiger 15 June 2013 15: 30
              +2
              You wouldn’t have to go to the shops, but to the gardens of Russians, in search of celery, not stuffed DIAZINONOM.
              We go to the spring, so this "celery" is growing there a whole plantation, absolutely free and completely devoid of chemical. drugs, because The "wild" form is not susceptible to specific diseases and successfully resists pests. Only this plant is called a little differently - to DREAM. Original / natural form for celery.
              And what is so unique about this vegetable, except how it grows "only in Israel" what No.
    3. Rustiger
      Rustiger 13 June 2013 20: 34
      +6
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Well, I understand Novosibirsk, but Krasnodar?

      You have forgotten Arosha, "homeland" and its climate. And so is geography!
      Novosibirsk is not in the Arctic Circle. Vegetables grow easily. As for carrots, it needs only 5 degrees of soil temperature to begin to germinate.

      Here are dates and figs (instead of sweets) my family is forced to buy. In winter, apples and pears are Hungarian, Bulgarian, Ukrainian. Pepper too. Moroccan and Turkish tangerines, and without Iverian lipasins we can easily do. . .

      Especially last year I bought a bucket of Javr potatoes for planting. Bribed by her "evenness", purity and size. I waited two months - she didn’t even sprout. Wrinkled like. ... ... Thrown out. But the Belarusian variety "Empress" was collected from two acres of 8 bags. And then they took only the largest one, the one that was smaller than the fist given to people to feed livestock.
      1. Apollo
        Apollo 13 June 2013 20: 44
        +2
        Quote: Rustiger
        You forgot Arosh


        In how wassat Well, God forbid that you should always be courteous to each other. Plus !!!
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 June 2013 20: 52
          -7
          This, dear Apollo, is not courtesy. This is rudeness in a beautiful wrapper. According to the rules should be punished.
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger 13 June 2013 22: 00
            +4
            Quote: Pimply
            According to the rules should be punished.

            Yes brost already, Evgenchik, this is your constant nagging. Romanov wrote that he got it with his sneakers.
            Be a man, not a crybaby.
            Again the "arrogance" that has boring everyone. What we are "courageous and courteous", that's why everyone always pecks at us.

            By the way, I have long wanted to ask. hi Why "pimpled". Can the skin problems be overcome?
            No friends dermatologists? Just the gearworms? what
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 21
              -3
              Don’t be killed, you won’t be so killed
            2. Rustiger
              Rustiger 14 June 2013 01: 32
              +2
              You won’t be so killed

              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Do not wait!
          2. Arkan
            Arkan 14 June 2013 02: 15
            +9
            Quote: Rustiger
            What we are "courageous and courteous", that's why everyone always pecks at us.

            I remember about three years ago there was no scent of culture and courtesy in their posts (perhaps only Odesa and a couple of nicknames were an exception). I remember I registered on this site only to answer a Jew who was boasting about the number of his toilets here (it looks like a "stinking rash" The poor fellow was not given a proper p ... sya) Strange metamorphoses have occurred with the Jews in recent years, have they got sick or what? laughing
          3. MG42
            MG42 14 June 2013 04: 17
            +5
            Quote: Arkan
            Strange metamorphoses have occurred with Jews in recent years, have they fallen ill?

            I am on the forum relatively recently, I do not know how it was before, but now they are polite ... although I was convinced of the duplicity of some by calculating one "fighter" in the network, at the same time I write with such words that the rules do not pass here ..
          4. Che
            Che 14 June 2013 23: 10
            0
            Yes Arkan, something Odessa people have not been seen for a long time, maybe on vacation? The girl has never been rude.
          5. Rustiger
            Rustiger 15 June 2013 00: 09
            0
            Quote: Che
            The girl has never been rude.

            Then I was here under a different nickname. . .
            But I remember the "woman from Odessa". I also remember, from some of her "revelations" that she (he) allegedly "found Stalin's funeral (a)". ... ...
            A good "girl" - sweet, courteous, yunna (?). ... ...
            Only 20 years old. . . . . Hundreds did not survive.
            That apparently survived.
            Hats, hats, caps, helmets, visors, bonnets, caps, earflaps, bales, sombreros, etc. Down with???
            Not necessarily, not a great loss. . .
          6. Apollo
            Apollo 15 June 2013 00: 14
            0
            Quote: Rustiger
            Then I was here under a different nickname. . .


            and ....... ???????. I guess I would like to know from you first hand.
          7. Rustiger
            Rustiger 15 June 2013 00: 45
            +3
            Quote: Apollon
            , I would like to learn from you first hand.

            I will allow myself to correct respect. moderator. ... ... It would be more correct to say "firsthand".
            You have every right to guess. Go for it. ... ... Believe me, your authority (professionalism) in my eyes will incredibly increase if you name my former nickname (there were two, this third), and at the same time the password for access. In principle, losing it with inaccurate backup and reinstallation of Windows, and became the reason to register on a new one. Everything is extremely simple. For my part, I promise "not to wag my tail," and with the "correct" answer I am ready to accept your conditions (within reason). I understand, not easy. But what if . ... ...
            Then - hi

            PS. IP has nothing to do with it. It is dynamic. The access was more often through the operators of our "big three"
            "Bilaynishe parasiten" or "Megafon ebalaytung". ... ...
          8. Apollo
            Apollo 15 June 2013 01: 01
            0
            Quote: Rustiger
            It would be more correct to say "firsthand".


            I agree, in a hurry I wrote, deliberately did not fix it. There is an expression that is written with a pen can not be cut down with an ax.

            Quote: Rustiger
            You have every right to speculate. Go ahead. . . Believe me, your authority (professionalism) in my eyes will increase incredibly if you call my previous nickname (there were two, this third), and at the same time the password for access.


            1.I'm not going to openly spread here,
            2.I only guess
            3.As for professionalism, it was evaluated at the time by 12-th candidates and 4-doctors of law.
            4. As for the password, this is the prerogative of the admins.

            Quote: Rustiger
            For my part, I promise "not to wag my tail," and with the "correct" answer I am ready to accept your conditions (within reason).


            as for the conditions, I have never put forward anyone and am not going to put forward. This is not in my manner.

            And lastly, they do not answer the question with the question, you wrote, I asked you a question, I remind you

            and ........ ???

            quote-PS. IP has nothing to do with it. It is dynamic. More often access was through the operators of our "big three"
            "Bilaynishe parasiten" or "Megaphone...


            PS, how to be with this highlighted phrase, put down by the ellipsis, pulls to violate the rules of VO.
          9. Rustiger
            Rustiger 15 June 2013 01: 29
            +2
            Quote: Apollon
            . how to be this highlighted phrase, I am drawn to violate the rules of VO.

            Interesting with you good
            But what, according to tradition "three nuts for cinderella" three warnings. ebeilatung - this is a transcription from German, my "second" language. Try to reasonably refute.
            Quote: Apollon
            they don’t answer a question with a question, you wrote, I asked you a question, I remind you
            and ........ ???

            But I didn’t promise anything, I just reported an existing fact. And also my real last name is Semenstain. Such is Valid Semenstain. Why not?

            Well, are you really such a "serious music" in life? I will not believe. There is room for feats humor drinks

            Sorry, but I’ll go to sleep. If you want to continue, I suggest tomorrow night hi
          10. Apollo
            Apollo 15 June 2013 01: 38
            0
            Quote: Rustiger
            If you want to continue, I suggest tomorrow night


            I don’t mind, unless of course something extraordinary happens or, on the contrary, ordinary ...!
  3. Arkan
    Arkan 15 June 2013 01: 36
    0
    Quote: Che
    Odessa people have not been seen for a long time, maybe on vacation?

    Do not know request, I don’t know her, but I haven’t seen her on the site for a very long time.
  • Apollo
    Apollo 13 June 2013 22: 42
    +2
    Quote: Pimply
    This, dear Apollo, is not courtesy. This is rudeness in a beautiful wrapper. According to the rules should be punished.


    I know, but alas, the rules are not broken. Opponents hone the writing style.
  • Rustiger
    Rustiger 13 June 2013 22: 02
    -1
    Quote: Apollon
    In how

    Guilty, sir. . . I promise to fix it. . .
    Yes, right now -

    Aron, you. . . . . . . . . . . .



    Deleted by the moderator!




    1. Apollo
      Apollo 13 June 2013 22: 45
      0
      Quote: Rustiger
      Guilty, sir. . . I promise to fix it. . .
      Yes, right now -


      stop explaining, you're an adult man.
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 13 June 2013 22: 54
    0
    Vadyusha, alas, I am a city dweller, and we have never had a summer residence, so I understand no more in agriculture than "a pig in oranges". request
    But I remember that Krasnodar was the breadbasket of Russia, and Novosibirsk was a scientific rather than an agricultural center.
  • Egen
    Egen 14 June 2013 07: 16
    +2
    Quote: Rustiger
    Hungarian apples and pears in winter

    This is to the question of the devastation of agriculture :(
    The NSO in Soviet times was still the breadbasket, maybe not the USSR, but Siberia :). Since the war, in Kargatsky and Kochkinsky districts, we had well-known livestock farms, Dovolnoye and Proletarka were famous for their bread, not virgin, but still; and in Krasnoozerka horse-breeding throughout Siberia was famous. So, I don’t know the numbers, but IMHO with bread, meat (and corn :)) NSOs and the surroundings provided, at least I knew they were transporting to Kemerovo.
    My grandmother for the first time in Siberia in 60 laid a garden; apples and ranetki, came from Novosibirsk for raspberries and currants, before there were no such summer residences like you :)
    And now there is no garden, no cattle, and there is not really sat down: (The only thing, we still go to the lakes for fish :), so the NSO was and still is "Rybnitsa" :))
    And you say apples ... the problem is deeper :(
  • Rustiger
    Rustiger 13 June 2013 20: 20
    +8
    Quote: nycsson
    Krasnodar littered with Israeli carrots!

    What to say . . . Shame and disgrace is to recognize. With such sown areas as in Russia, to import products that are undemanding to the heat and climate of the subtropics, from sand jerboas. . . negative
    Moreover, this is not a carrot in the full sense. And, as biologists say, "a biological substance that looks like a carrot." Ie GM product obtained by crossing carrots and FODDER TURNEPS, which received color from carrots (but not so pronounced), and from turnips the size (up to half a meter long and 10-12 cm in diameter) and "keeping quality". All conditions for sales. ... ...
    I speak as an avid summer resident and a person who for many years has fundamentally not bought any vegetables in hypers, except for absolutely exotic ones.
    And carrots are still half a bag in the cellar left over from the previous harvest. In a month and a half it will be fresh. . .
    Destroyed nah.er as well as domestic agricultural and "dacha culture".
    Here again, all sorts of "good luck". ... ...
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 13 June 2013 21: 18
      +5
      Quote: Rustiger
      Destroyed nah.er as well as domestic agricultural and "dacha culture".

      Plus, Vadim. good
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 13 June 2013 21: 26
      +4
      Quote: Rustiger
      Moreover, this is not a carrot in the full sense. And, as biologists say, "a biological substance that looks like a carrot." That is, a GM product obtained by crossing carrots and FODDER TOURNEPS, which received color from carrots (but not so pronounced), and from turnips, size (up to half a meter long and 10-12 cm in diameter) and "keeping quality". All conditions for sales. ... ...

      I agree! Her color is pale pink, unnatural. There is also Volgograd carrot, that is normal, but it is much smaller!
      Quote: Rustiger
      I speak as an avid summer resident and a person who for many years has fundamentally not bought any vegetables in hypers, except for absolutely exotic ones.

      You are lucky! If I had a summer residence, I would not buy it either! Recently I wanted to buy ketchup, so it is all with genetically modified starch, which is used as a thickener! I want to advise everyone, look at the composition and the food producer, they sell such crap! No one is following the manufacturers now, all guests have been canceled!
      I’m watching the news, Putin visited the Jewish Museum, he is also the center of tolerance! There is nothing more to do .........
      Quote: Rustiger
      Destroyed nah.er as well as domestic agricultural and "dacha culture".

      Earlier, food security was one of the main tasks of public administration!
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 June 2013 21: 49
        -2
        Which pale pink? Bright orange, sweet.
        1. Rustiger
          Rustiger 13 June 2013 22: 40
          +4
          Quote: Pimply
          Bright orange, sweet.

          After the "selection work" of the Honored Agronomist of the Republic of Persia and his nuclear physicists, it may be like this -
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 13 June 2013 22: 56
            -3

            After the "selection work" of the Honored Agronomist of the Republic of Persia and his nuclear physicists, it may be like this -

            Do not wait!
        2. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 06: 52
          +3
          Quote: Pimply
          Which pale pink? Bright orange, sweet.

          And where is it written what is produced in Israel?
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger 14 June 2013 08: 58
            +2
            Quote: Semyon Semyonich
            And where is it written what is produced in Israel?

            Yes, of course, he drives, but he does not understand anything in this matter. Carrots in the photo are ours!
            1. Taken clearly against the background of Chernozem. This type of soil is not found in Israel and BV.
            2. Carrots with tops, and they are removed immediately after harvest. With a large area of ​​evaporation by leaves, the vegetable immediately loses moisture, or, more simply, wilts.

            Here is Israeli. In characteristic bags. Both potatoes and garlic are packed in such.
            12
            Is it harmful to eat it? Very much, after all, "they conducted an experiment" and the rabbit, running past the Israeli carrots, began to greedily eat dirty Russian carrots, sometimes animals feel danger and do not eat the product, so I check the sausage; I give it to the cat and, as a rule, he does not eat it, then I found out that GM soy is added there, by the way I read that GM soy is generously added to cookies, chocolate and sweets, so it has been 4 years since I refused them.
            as far as I know the main danger Eating GM foods is the birth of downs, freaks and infertility.

            Russia buys 9.000 tons of special Israeli carrots grown in the Negev desert.
            The peculiarity of this vegetable is that it is twice as large as regular carrots, which the Israelis themselves buy in local markets. Russians pay about $ 1,30 per kilogram.

            The entire export deal with carrots cost 33 million shekels ($ 9 million). Carrots were grown in 12 rural communities in southern Israel; each root crop reaches a few centimeters in diameter, which is almost twice the average size of carrots in local markets.

            The length of the carrots-heroes is about 35-40 centimeters, compared with the average - 16-20 centimeters. In addition, Negev farmers export 5.000 tons of potatoes to Russia totaling 20 million shekels.

            The export agreement proposed by the Avshalom group will increase the cost of supplying carrots to Russia by five percent. Company Director David Levy says that we are talking about carrots of a special variety (!?!?!), which is very popular in the former Soviet bloc.

            It is impossible to grow such bio-plants on the sand without the use of stimulants and other chem. nasty things !!!
            1. atalef
              atalef 14 June 2013 09: 17
              -4
              Quote: Rustiger
              It is impossible to grow such bio-plants on the sand without the use of stimulants and other chem. nasty things !!!

              Did Onishchenko overslept?
            2. Rustiger
              Rustiger 14 June 2013 09: 47
              +4
              I'm not Onishchenko. I am Semyonov! Be sure that if there were opportunities (and there is a desire), I would actively promote "active rest" not in the resorts of Kurvo-sorrel, but in suburban "summer cottages". And he would make the Russians eat what they themselves grow, and leave foreign mutants to those who sell them.
              Video -
              http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/624481/

              "Feed" your shit to the hungry Volga region Africa. If you yourself can’t tidy up the CREATED (not to be confused with the grown). Creeitors, me too. . .
              You can’t wait for shekels from me!


              In our area, in such "soil" only cats piss. ... ... No.
              kibbutz
          2. Che
            Che 14 June 2013 23: 14
            +4
            Rustaiger, I do not buy their vegetables - GMOs, but I grow them myself. Their vegetables do not even rot, and a natural product tends to deteriorate.
          3. Rustiger
            Rustiger 15 June 2013 12: 35
            +1
            Quote: Che
            I do not buy their vegetables - GMOs, but I grow them myself.

            good good good
            I am sincerely glad that you have such an opportunity and the main desire and understanding of the seriousness of the issue.
            I have always called for this and will continue to call on it. Although I myself am a typical city dweller. I was born in an apartment and live in an apartment, but "from a young age" I was involved in this fascinating activity, like gardening / horticulture.
            God give you health, patience, favorable weather conditions and large yields. OUR !!!
  • Rustiger
    Rustiger 13 June 2013 22: 10
    +3
    Quote: nycsson
    You are lucky! If I had a summer residence, I would not buy it either!

    You know, I will never believe that there are no "summer cottages" around your city. I am in the sense where people "stand with cancer" over the beds, and did not put a couple of benches and did not sow everything with lawn grass. These are simply lazy people, who have stopped "loving" their own body in the first place, but are ready to bear the money to anyone and for anything. And then this "anything" to stick into your own womb.
    "Earn your bread in sweat" / from the Bible /.
    And I have a job, but after it the whole family to the cottage to the garden. Almost every evening and weekend to spend the night.
  • vBR
    vBR 14 June 2013 00: 39
    +1
    It is clear that some Israeli firms were able to sell tomatoes, just like the Dutch, Turkish and devils from the Virgin Islands (and in a much larger volume). But the statement "the Jews are to blame for everything" is already simply harmful, except that it is false, they could have done with it in the early 90s, at the time of the shell shock. With the same success, the Russians are even more to blame - because they didn’t know a damn what the collective farm-state farm system was and why it had to be preserved. And those who existentially hated it along with the land - it was their mission to break down systems, and the virgin-innocent Russian townspeople from megacities greeted all this joyfully. So to translate the matter into an ethnic plane is to fool people
    1. Arkan
      Arkan 15 June 2013 01: 32
      +2
      Quote: Vbr
      But the statement "the Jews are to blame for everything" is already simply harmful, except that it is false, they could have done with it in the early 90s, at the time of the shell shock. With the same success, the Russians are even more to blame - because they didn’t know a damn what the collective farm-state farm system was and why it had to be preserved.

      Your statement would be true if we lived in Ancient Greece (at that time the level of knowledge of citizens was homogeneous), but now is the era of narrow specialization and it is foolish to reproach a military man or a scientist that he “doesn’t know a damn about the collective farm-state farm system. .. ".
      Quote: Vbr
      and the virgin and innocent Russian citizens from megalopolises all joyfully welcomed.

      And here it is worth "dripping" a little deeper, and find out - who, how? and from what motives did he put in the minds of the masses of people incorrect information about those sectors of the national economy in which they did not understand, and whether this process is still going on ...
  • Che
    Che 14 June 2013 23: 18
    +2
    Rustiger.
    By the way, the monument to the destroyer stands in Sverdlovsk.
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger 15 June 2013 02: 05
      0
      Quote: Che
      By the way, the monument to the destroyer stands in Sverdlovsk.

      "little blue" like that? More precisely, now barely noticeable pale blue?
      It was for him and not for "moishe gorbich" because under him (moishe) people rushed to their plots en masse in order to get food in the form of "free" vegetables to their simple table, not relying on "air-conditioned hypers with kilometers of glowing refrigerators." And the "kutsepaly" all this "gave". ... ... request
  • zvereok
    zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 14
    +4
    I did not fully understand the need to send our peacekeepers to the border with Israel. Is it that Israel and Syria need to be divorced and given Syria several years to restore its economy and military potential.
    1. Egor.nic
      Egor.nic 13 June 2013 14: 26
      +1
      In order to defend oneself and divert the war from its borders, the war must be waged on foreign territory.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 34
        0
        Quote: Egor.nic
        In order to defend oneself and divert the war from its borders, the war must be waged on foreign territory.

        And you did not think about the fact that the war could start not at the Russian borders, but right inside the country! It remains only to give a command to its supporters in the territory of the Russian Federation! There are weapons, people are trained!
  • kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 13 June 2013 11: 56
    +4
    Quote: alexdol
    so who is our REAL friend

    We have never been friends and there is nothing to start. The further the better. Since the founding of this formation of the USSR, the top of Israel all looked towards the North American United States. If there appeared there about communist slogans and undertakings, all the "ideologists" were kicked out of there under various pretexts. And also, rocking the theme of friendship of peoples, you need to understand that many in our country, to put it mildly, "dislike" all Jews and especially those who, in anticipation of a well-fed and happy life, dumped into their promised life, "suddenly remembering" their Jewish roots. Hiding behind the Holocaust as a shield, fighting off numerous censures from a whole circle of comrades, friends, relatives - many turned all their considerable values ​​into currency or objects of art and with them already sailed from the country, which at that time was not going through the best times. And now the descendants of those who left like this, write here to us on the forum, how we, who remained, continue to live. Here's the truth.
  • M. Peter
    M. Peter 13 June 2013 12: 31
    +1
    Quote: alexdol
    so who is our REAL friend?

    The position of Russia, or rather what is voiced by the Foreign Ministry, is extremely clear. Syria is not our friend, or rather not an ally; we do not have any allied treaty. We have good trade relations with Syria, commodity circulation is not sickly, so Russia does not protect its trade partner, but its contracts. That is, all other countries are to us, they say they are villains, and we are them, and we just do not care, we have trade with them, well, everything is in the spirit of capitalism. wink And rightly so, our Foreign Ministry, all the same as earlier in the days of the USSR, does not help because because they also only want to build socialism. But the loss of contracts for sickly grandmothers, thanks to which we have a significant part of the country to feed, yes.
    And our friends, or rather allies, as has been said more than once, this is the army and navy. laughing
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 13 June 2013 12: 37
      +2
      Probably there Russia defends not so much the contracts as its image as the defender of enslaved peoples!
      1. atalef
        atalef 13 June 2013 20: 08
        -5
        Quote: Den 11
        Probably there Russia defends not so much the contracts as its image as the defender of enslaved peoples!

        Denis, And who are the enslaved?
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 13 June 2013 20: 18
          +2
          They don’t understand the irony? I generally like to push the revolutionary slogans!
          1. atalef
            atalef 14 June 2013 09: 19
            -3
            Quote: Den 11
            I generally love the revolutionary slogans to push!


            Well then, proletarians of all countries unite !!!!!!!!!!
        2. zvereok
          zvereok 14 June 2013 01: 20
          +2
          Here the Jews organized the country by the USSR. Or all the same to the Israelites?
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 14 June 2013 01: 57
            -4
            Respected. To the Jews, first of all, they organized the country themselves. The fact that the USSR voted for the recognition of Israel and was one of many suppliers of weapons (for which, incidentally, money was paid) does not mean anything. There are many entities that have tried to become countries. Where are they now? So do not assume that the country was carried on a silver platter, and that it was the GREAT PLAN OF STALIN. This is nonsense. There was a number of arms deliveries from Czechoslovakia - but by that time the Jews had rifles, and infantry, and tanks, and their own production of weapons, and additional sources of supplies. Yes, this weapon helped - but no more. Not the UN recognizes the state. In general, there is no generally accepted procedure for establishing statehood. The UN only fixes the number of states recognizing a new country. And that’s all.
            1. zvereok
              zvereok 14 June 2013 02: 01
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              Respected. To the Jews, first of all, they organized the country themselves.


              9 May even recognize? Or would a country have appeared without victory?
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 14 June 2013 02: 29
                -6
                You, my dear, do not deal with flaring - get what you give and learn history. A million four hundred thousand Jews fought in the armies of different countries, not counting partisans and underground workers. Go, wash your tongue with soap, and sit down at the history books.
                1. zvereok
                  zvereok 14 June 2013 07: 44
                  +6
                  Quote: Pimply
                  You, my dear, do not deal with flaring - get what you give and learn history. A million four hundred thousand Jews fought in the armies of different countries, not counting partisans and underground workers. Go, wash your tongue with soap, and sit down at the history books.


                  You, dear, don’t be clever here, I certainly understand that the Jews made a decisive contribution to the victory over fascism (and the Soviet Union, as it were, had nothing to do with it) and the state of Israel was one of the victorious countries - go wash yourselves and clean your brains.

                  I also advise you to be patient. It in life oh how helps.
                  1. zvereok
                    zvereok 14 June 2013 08: 08
                    +2
                    Quote: zvereok
                    A million four hundred thousand Jews fought in the armies of different countries, not counting partisans and underground workers.


                    In the ranks of the Nazi army, they also fought.
              2. atalef
                atalef 14 June 2013 09: 37
                -4
                Quote: zvereok
                May 9 even recognize?

                We, YES !!!!!
                And you ?
                In Rzhev, youth warmed priests over the eternal flame and jumped on memorial plates
                1. zvereok
                  zvereok 14 June 2013 09: 58
                  +3
                  Quote: zvereok
                  Here the Jews organized the country by the USSR. Or all the same to the Israelites?


                  It was about the fact that without the USSR, which had won the Second World War, there would have been no Israel.

                  By the way, you did not answer me:

                  Quote: atalef

                  Is there such an Israeli nationality?
                  It's like Muscovites in Moscow


                  negative

                  You do not know your country well:

                  The citizen of Israel is an Israeli. But according to ethnicity, he can be - a Jew, an Arab., Russian, Ethiopian, Moroccan, etc.


                  Well, earlier, when in boorish form they demanded to provide a link to the Jewish forum, where they discuss a possible strike on Russian ships in Tartus, and when I gave it to you, they were stifled.

                  Quote: atalef
                  In Rzhev, youth warmed priests over the eternal flame and jumped on memorial plates


                  Youngsters - flog.
                2. them
                  them 19 June 2013 00: 19
                  0
                  So what? And in Israel, neo-fascists and Jews by nationality were recently tried.
    2. vBR
      vBR 14 June 2013 00: 52
      +5
      After all, if they stop "building socialism" there, then "trade with us" will simply be liquidated as a fact. Still, it seems to me that this statement by Lavrov is a big mistake, just stupidity. And who gave him this right? Alawites have been allies of Russia for more than 250 years, even under Catherine they helped in the war with Turkey and provided bases for the fleet. The Socialist Renaissance Party continues this line. These are just friends, and contracts are something completely different ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 14 June 2013 08: 57
        -2
        Quote: Vbr
        Alavites have been allies of Russia for more than 250 years, even under Catherine they helped in the war with Turkey and gave bases for the fleet. The party of socialist revival continues the same line.

        Please, on the first statement, a reference and on the second. Especially about the Baath Party (if YOU know what it is)
  • Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 13 June 2013 12: 49
    0
    Quote: alexdol
    so who is our REAL friend? It turns out - ISRAEL !!! However, this does not really surprise me ....

    And what's wrong with having friendly relations with the state of Israel?
    1. kirieeleyson
      kirieeleyson 13 June 2013 16: 30
      +6
      What kind of Israel is today — a friend, tomorrow — a bunch, and in a week he’ll shit in his hat — you won’t take it away.
      Life truth.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 14 June 2013 06: 42
        0
        Quote: kirieeleyson
        What kind of Israel is today — a friend, tomorrow — a bunch, and in a week he’ll shit in his hat — you won’t take it away.
        Life truth.

        True, they still wear hats. So they also bother ???
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 13 June 2013 20: 04
      +3
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      And what's wrong with having friendly relations with the state of Israel?

      Israel is not friends with the gentiles, do not dream.
  • Yves762
    Yves762 13 June 2013 08: 41
    17
    Over the past couple of weeks, the Syrian government forces have somehow quickly learned to fight, IMHO. Judging by the news feeds ...
    am Maybe Ours, even though they haven't delivered 300 so far, have adjusted N number of "advisers" ..? ..
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 21
      20
      A month ago or less, Syria removed the guard units from the Israeli Border and engaged them in an internal conflict, plus Hezbollah. Probably before, simply bayonets were not enough to be everywhere, and at the same time to carry out large-scale operations such as El Quseir.

      Although in fairness it’s worth saying that the interaction of motorized rifles and tanks, as it dramatically and radically changed even before this, began to remind very much the action of the Russian troops in Chechnya. At the same time, the losses of the Syrian army decreased significantly.
      1. Professor
        Professor 13 June 2013 12: 00
        -20 qualifying.
        Quote: Yves762
        Over the past couple of weeks, the Syrian government forces have somehow quickly learned to fight, IMHO.

        It was Hezbollah who got involved, not the army learned. She had two years of "training", but there were no results.
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 13 June 2013 12: 50
          +9
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: zvereok
          Over the past couple of weeks, the Syrian government forces have somehow quickly learned to fight, IMHO.

          It was Hezbollah who got involved, not the army learned. She had two years of "training", but there were no results.


          Firstly, you are not quoting me, but of another person.

          And secondly, compare the actions of the Syrian tankers last year, when they rode along the road at maximum speed, and fired into the white light like a pretty penny - apparently trying to use up ammunition and quickly return to base. And the actions of the Syrian army now.

          Or are you going to say that Hezbollah is also sitting at the helm of the tank?
          1. Professor
            Professor 13 June 2013 13: 49
            -12 qualifying.
            Quote: zvereok
            Or are you going to say that Hezbollah is also sitting at the helm of the tank?

            I've seen enough of these videos. During the extreme assault on the "Stalingrad", the Syrian army provided only support with artillery and aviation, and the Hezbalons were exclusively involved in the assault and cleansing.
            1. zvereok
              zvereok 13 June 2013 14: 46
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              I've seen enough of these videos. During the extreme assault on the "Stalingrad", the Syrian army provided only support with artillery and aviation, and the Hezbalons were exclusively involved in the assault and cleansing.



              Following your logic - the defense of El Quseir, exclusively Israeli special forces were engaged, since I also saw enough of the videos when the bandits shooting a tank from a grenade launcher killed the bandits standing behind them.

              The bandits, of course, like the Syrian army, were extras.

              PS: Anticipating your question, Israel did not admit to bombing either.
            2. Kirgudum
              Kirgudum 13 June 2013 15: 22
              +2
              and the storming and mopping up was exclusively carried out by hizbalons
              - why did you decide so, dear person with VERY GOOD FANTASY? Do you have any evidence to prove your point?
              1. Phantom Revolution
                Phantom Revolution 13 June 2013 17: 30
                +5
                Quote: Kirgudum
                - why did you decide so, dear person with VERY GOOD FANTASY? Do you have any evidence to prove your point?

                This comrade has his own "unnamed sources"))))
            3. El13
              El13 13 June 2013 16: 26
              +3
              Quote: Professor
              storming "stalingrd"

              With all due respect, minus for the inappropriate comparison ...
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 June 2013 16: 59
                -3
                El Quseir did not call Stalingrad a professor at all, he only mentioned the term recently used by the Russian media
        2. ultra
          ultra 13 June 2013 16: 37
          +6
          The professor is that Assad has been holding on for so long, it cannot be called a miracle, and this is the merit of the Syrian army! hi
          1. Professor
            Professor 13 June 2013 18: 12
            -4
            Quote: ultra
            The professor is that Assad has been holding on for so long, it cannot be called a miracle, and this is the merit of the Syrian army! hi

            You can rephrase, the Syrian army has not been able to cope with poorly armed and poorly trained rebels for two years.



            Quote: Kirgudum
            Do you have any evidence to prove your point?

            Of course there is, I'll post it immediately after you show the Security Council resolution making the Russian military 8.8.8 "peacekeepers".

            Quote: Phantom Revolution
            This comrade has his own "unnamed sources"))))

            Where am I going? I, unlike you, do not visit foreign forums and all my posts are exclusively a figment of my imagination.

            Quote: zvereok
            Following your logic

            My logic has nothing to do with it. Assad’s participation in hezbalons was not hidden, even the Russian media regularly broadcast about this. Hezbalons themselves complain that the Hamas they have prepared now uses their own methods against Hezbollah. Video upload or believe a word?
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 13 June 2013 18: 39
              +5
              Quote: Professor
              My logic has nothing to do with it.

              Naturally!
              Where are you and where are we! Well, where do we comprehend the depths of your sophisms!
              1. Professor
                Professor 13 June 2013 19: 19
                -9
                Quote: Cynic
                Where are you and where are we! Well, where do we comprehend the depths of your sophisms!

                Also, please take a picture from Purim, for fools it can and ride.
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 13 June 2013 19: 36
                  +4
                  Quote: Professor
                  Also please take a picture from Purim,

                  Always please


                  wink
            2. zvereok
              zvereok 13 June 2013 18: 47
              +4
              Quote: Professor
              Quote: zvereok
              Following your logic

              My logic has nothing to do with it. Assad’s participation in hezbalons was not hidden, even the Russian media regularly broadcast about this. Hezbalons themselves complain that the Hamas they have prepared now uses their own methods against Hezbollah. Video upload or believe a word?


              Logic is iron.

              The Syrian army does not hide the obvious - participation in the Hezbollah Battles.

              Israel hides the obvious - the bombing of its facilities in Syria.

              Conclusion: True, what the Syrians say and what Israel is accused of.

              Sophism, my friend, but there is something in it. You said stupidity:

              Quote: Professor
              During the extreme assault on the "Stalingrad", the Syrian army provided only support with artillery and aviation, and the Hezbalons were exclusively involved in the assault and cleansing.


              And you do not want to admit it. So I started fooling around.

              Quote: Professor
              Of course there is, I'll post it immediately after you show the Security Council resolution making the Russian military 8.8.8 "peacekeepers".


              This decision was made within the CIS. Signed incl. and the Georgian side.


              Quote: zvereok
              You can rephrase, the Syrian army has not been able to cope with poorly armed and poorly trained rebels for two years.


              The army hardened in multiple battles by the fascist Germany against the Belarusian partisans achieved roughly the same result. Only the Nazis with the population did not really stand on ceremony.
              1. Professor
                Professor 13 June 2013 19: 20
                -4
                Quote: zvereok
                So I started fooling around.

                When done, let me know that I don’t lose time on you.
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 13 June 2013 19: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  so that I don’t lose time on you.

                  Too late!
                2. zvereok
                  zvereok 14 June 2013 01: 05
                  0
                  I tried to get into your astral, I will no longer waste your time ... Bredte further.
              2. Pimply
                Pimply 13 June 2013 20: 54
                -5
                Quote: zvereok
                Israel hides the obvious - the bombing of its facilities in Syria.

                Israel does not hide. Just - does not comment. Leaving questions of proof of the event in the hands of the opponent.
                1. zvereok
                  zvereok 14 June 2013 01: 09
                  +2
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Israel does not hide. Just - does not comment. Leaving questions of proof of the event in the hands of the opponent.


                  Comment on his sponsors.
                2. Arkan
                  Arkan 14 June 2013 01: 22
                  +4
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Israel does not hide. Just - does not comment. Leaving questions of proof of the event in the hands of the opponent.

                  And when I say that you need to do the same with the Jews, they call me anti-Semite. laughing
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 14 June 2013 01: 58
                    -2
                    Trolling? With me? Do not make me laugh.
                    1. The comment was deleted.
                    2. Arkan
                      Arkan 14 June 2013 02: 36
                      +2
                      Quote: Pimply
                      Israel does not hide. Just - does not comment. Leaving questions of proof of the event in the hands of the opponent.

                      Quote: Arkan
                      And when I say that you need to do the same with the Jews, they call me anti-Semite. laughing

                      Quote: Pimply
                      Trolling? With me? Do not make me laugh.

                      laughing Without words. good
                  2. Professor
                    Professor 14 June 2013 08: 08
                    -1
                    Quote: Arkan
                    And when I say that you need to do the same with the Jews, they call me anti-Semite.

                    You are called anti-Semite because you are anti-Semite by definition.
                    1. Che
                      Che 14 June 2013 23: 34
                      +2
                      Professor, is a Zionist cooler than an anti-Semite?
                      1. Rustiger
                        Rustiger 15 June 2013 01: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: Che
                        and the Zionist is cooler than anti-Semite?

                        Of course cooler, because the ZIONIST IS ME! Because ready to help anyone I meet to go to the forefathers to "historical", ie provide assistance after the sale of property they do not need (not me), give a lift to the nearest airport for a flight ... - Telyaviv.
                        And who are the "Zionists" even the Yavry will not answer you clearly. The term is about 2 hundred years old. It was invented by the Yavras themselves in order to once again emphasize their "peculiarity" and "distance themselves" from other nationalities of the SEMIT group, of which there are now 8 (?). Incl. and SYRIANS! It turns out an Iberian pilot who flew on a mission with the aim of bombing Syria, there is a real ANTISEMIT!

                        Memorial to the victims of the Israeli bombing of Qana.
                        Where more than 3 "anti-Semites" died after the destruction of a 50-storey residential building, incl. 28 children. ... ...
                        memorial
                    2. Arkan
                      Arkan 15 June 2013 01: 51
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      You are called anti-Semite because you are anti-Semite by definition.

                      I was not judged by such an article laughing Or does the presumption of innocence not apply to non-Jews? Or does every Jew thinks himself a judge and a prosecutor in the same hypostasis laughing ? Yes, however, it doesn’t matter - anti-Semite is so anti-Semite.
                      1. Rustiger
                        Rustiger 15 June 2013 02: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: Arkan
                        Yes, however, it doesn’t matter - anti-Semite is so anti-Semite.

                        You shouldn't be like that, Sergei. "They lowered the sword," seeing how Yavr blames and complains about you. And he, by definition, always has a dirty crooked boot knife aimed at your liver as soon as you turn away. ... ...
                      2. Arkan
                        Arkan 15 June 2013 02: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: Rustiger
                        You shouldn't be like that, Sergei. "They lowered the sword," seeing how Yavr is guilty and complaining about you. And he, by definition, always has a dirty crooked boot knife aimed at your liver as soon as you turn away.

                        And what's the difference? Over the past fifty years, this title has been awarded to thousands of pretty good people and among them more than a dozen Jews .... Zionists have overdone labeling and now this word only matters to the Jews themselves (Anyway, in Ukraine ) hi
                    3. Professor
                      Professor 15 June 2013 08: 19
                      -2
                      Quote: Arkan
                      Yes, however, it doesn’t matter - anti-Semite is so anti-Semite.

                      Well, things fell into place. It’s not necessary to shave one’s head for naked or wear high boots.
          2. Day 11
            Day 11 13 June 2013 19: 32
            +2
            The first 2 videos are Charming, Charming, and 3-I would like, in general terms, what is the bazaar about (I understand this, is Hamas?)
            1. Professor
              Professor 13 June 2013 20: 36
              -1
              Quote: Den 11
              The first 2 videos are Charming, Charming, and 3-I would like, in general terms, what is the bazaar about (I understand this, is Hamas?)

              Oh yes, in the first two videos we see the Israeli special forces in action ... laughing
              In the last video, the Sunnis complain about hezbalons and show the identity of the hezbalon they killed.

              PS
              Such Assad "wins" for two years
              1. Arkan
                Arkan 13 June 2013 22: 33
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Such Assad "wins" for two years

                + + + good laughing Well, what kind of "secret allies of Israel" have recruited, such and wins. laughing
                1. Professor
                  Professor 13 June 2013 22: 40
                  0
                  Quote: Arkan
                  Quote: Professor
                  Such Assad "wins" for two years

                  + + + good laughing Well, what kind of "secret allies of Israel" have recruited, such and wins. laughing

                  Of course Israel ... Hto lied? Nevistka! wink
                  1. Arkan
                    Arkan 13 June 2013 22: 50
                    +1
                    Quote: Professor
                    Of course Israel ... Hto lied? Nevistka!

                    Hmm. Didn't you a couple of days ago laid out an article that spoke about "Israel's new secret allies"? Actually, this is not any news, but if the Jews themselves finally started talking about it ...
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 13 June 2013 23: 01
                      0
                      Quote: Arkan
                      about "Israel's new secret allies"

                      List from my article and what exactly is their union.
                    2. Arkan
                      Arkan 13 June 2013 23: 37
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      List from my article and what exactly is their union.

                      Professor - do not be ridiculous. The fact that Israel's policy goes in unison with its former enemies has been noticed for a long time, and articles like the one that you posted are not a catchy statement of a fait accompli. But "lists" and "what exactly is their union" - in the public domain will be posted in 30 years. Alliances are concluded for the sake of achieving some goals, I think - Syria was that goal.
                    3. Pimply
                      Pimply 13 June 2013 23: 54
                      -1
                      Examples in the studio, plz
                    4. Professor
                      Professor 14 June 2013 08: 10
                      0
                      Quote: Arkan
                      Professor - do not be ridiculous. The fact that Israel's policy goes in unison with its former enemies has been noticed for a long time, and articles like the one that you posted are not a catchy statement of a fait accompli. But "lists" and "what exactly is their union" - in the public domain bu

                      Blah blah blah. Your fantasies are not interesting to me. Either links to documents or to the "Army Tales" section.
          3. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 13 June 2013 22: 55
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            Oh yes, in the first two videos we see Israeli special forces in action ... laughing
            In the last video, the Sunnis complain about hezbalons and show the identity of the hezbalon they killed.
            PS
            Such Assad "wins" for two years



            Oh ..... How sarcasm comes from all the cracks) I can dig up some funny videos and tell some clowns wow) What can you do if you buy such sheep and drive them to Syria by the thousands. And they are helped by the whole dermocratic world, including yourself you know who) hi
            The second at the expense of two years, how many Israel is fighting with Hamas there?) Although you can’t tell, you won’t win already?) But Hamas and the same hezbollah do not really help on such a scale as in Syria.
            1. Professor
              Professor 13 June 2013 23: 10
              +1
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              What can you do if you buy such sheep and drive thousands into Syria.

              Before sending, all polls pass an intensive course in mastering the Syrian dialect. In general, these are actors from Bollywood. wink

              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              The second at the expense of two years, how many Israel is fighting with Hamas there?) Although you can’t tell, you won’t win already?)

              Of course, Israel lost to both Hamas and Hezbollah, and for this reason in the north for 7 years, not a single rocket, Nassrala in a seven-year-old drinking bout in the bunker and does not show his nose from there, and Hamas is in the same place. By the way, they no longer shoot in the Caucasus, since we are talking about victories?

              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              But Hamas, well, or the same hezbollah, is not really helping on such a scale as in Syria.

              Did such nonsense have told you in your foreign forums? wink Urgently study the materiel and everything related to the financing of Hamas and Hezbollah. Personally, you do not have to organize an educational program — ignoramus and rummage about in foreign forums. love
              1. Phantom Revolution
                Phantom Revolution 14 June 2013 12: 45
                +1
                Quote: Professor
                Before sending, all polls pass an intensive course in mastering the Syrian dialect. In general, these are actors from Bollywood. wink

                Oh yes, also a Russian dialect) And other dialects) And the documents of citizens of Libya, Saudi Arabia and other state-in this photoshop) A video about the American Wahhabi generally editing Putin) laughing

                Quote: Professor
                Of course, Israel lost to both Hamas and Hezbollah, and for this reason in the north for 7 years, not a single rocket, Nassrala in a seven-year-old drinking bout in the bunker and does not show his nose from there, and Hamas is in the same place. By the way, they no longer shoot in the Caucasus, since we are talking about victories?


                As for Hamas, he didn’t defeat and destroy roughly a private group, and missiles fly. By the way, since Hamas is there, why are the zones with the iron dome being increased?
                About the Caucasus, everywhere they shoot, but not like in Palestine, moreover, everything is at the state level and, in fact, does not obey Israel. I don’t even remember that Chechnya would like a place in the UN and separation from Russia.) Or did I miss something?) wink Again a special secret source?)


                Quote: Professor
                Did such nonsense have told you in your foreign forums? wink Urgently study the materiel and everything related to the financing of Hamas and Hezbollah. Personally, you do not have to organize an educational program — ignoramus and rummage about in foreign forums. love


                Oh, what bravado, well, where am I to your "special sources") Proofs can be about financing?) At least tsiferki.) Isn't that the whole world helping Hezboll and Hamas?) Iran would have gone bankrupt at such a pace, right now Qatar took the Palestinians under its own winglet means little Iran financed. And if it were so, then the level of armament of Palestine would have increased long ago.
                1. Professor
                  Professor 14 June 2013 14: 07
                  -1
                  Quote: Phantom Revolution
                  Oh yes, also a Russian dialect) And other dialects) And the documents of citizens of Libya, Saudi Arabia and other state-in this photoshop) A video about the American Wahhabi generally editing Putin)

                  Is it you, as always, abstract or in the video under discussion? You are lying, in the video above the indigenous people of Syria.

                  Quote: Phantom Revolution
                  and that rockets fly

                  Time, place, doc-va fantasies.

                  Quote: Phantom Revolution
                  Proofs can I talk about financing?

                  I am touched by your manner of demanding proofs without confirming your fantasies with proofs. Show you invoices or bank trash? wink
                  http://expert.ru/2013/06/3/rasplata-za-predatelstvo/
                  http://nashe.orbita.co.il/blogs/middle_east/25020/
                  http://www.inopressa.ru/article/24oct2012/ilsole24ore/qatar.htmlhttp://www.sem40
                  .ru / index.php? newsid = 139329
          4. zvereok
            zvereok 14 June 2013 01: 15
            +1
            Quote: Professor
            Oh yes, in the first two videos we see Israeli special forces in action ... laughing


            In an extreme assault on El Quseira? Eh, dash, again I fell into your fantasies ... Professor you are raving powerfully.
      2. Papakiko
        Papakiko 13 June 2013 19: 37
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        the Syrian army has been unable for two years to cope with poorly armed and poorly trained rebels.

        Gerrrr Profesor I put you +, solely for resourcefulness and a joke in the video in the form of "weapons" SSA.
        Perhaps these are NATO members and call them "Non-flying weapons"?
        And what kind of pictures are downloaded into tablets and laptops of SSA "commanders" in real time from satellites, drones and avionics?
        Syria is not a space power, it doesn’t even produce airplanes, to say nothing about SSA. But the picture is clearly visible and the radio interception works and jam the ether too.
        Or the SSA Merlins, Vanga and others from the "mighty handful"?
        It doesn’t suit you to have an orc, and even with delusional examples. hi

        PS / I'm ready to get acquainted with the inner guts of "Morkva".
      3. ultra
        ultra 13 June 2013 22: 59
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        You can rephrase

        You can do whatever you want, but the fact remains! hi
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 13 June 2013 18: 30
      +4
      Quote: ultra
      Professor that Assad holds on

      With dear Professorom on his field and his weapons?
      Sorry, but it will be

      Massacre of the innocents
      1. Professor
        Professor 13 June 2013 19: 21
        -2
        Quote: Cynic
        Massacre of the innocents

  • Arkan
    Arkan 13 June 2013 22: 15
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    She had two years of "training", but there were no results.

    Well, there is a result, almost every dog ​​in Europe and the United States knows who Assad is fighting with. Moreover, the fight against terrorists was carried on all the time against the threat of external interference, therefore, a significant part of the Syrian Army forces had to prepare to repel external threats .... Delaying the conflict is a strategically correct decision made by Assad.
    Quote: Professor
    This is Hezbollah's connected, not the army learned

    It is said as if they confused the plans with the neutral Jews ... laughing For almost a year, the analyst Pipyrchaty argued that "Hezbollah has changed masters and will not fight for Assad ..." - Professor, you should not exaggerate the role of Hezbollah so much and thus question the ability of the Pimpled analyst to do any kind of analysis! smile
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 23
      -1
      G-lord, well, find where I said this, go ahead. Hamas has changed owners, Hamas. You confused the Sunni guys with Shiite
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 13 June 2013 22: 37
        +1
        Quote: Pimply
        G-lord, well, find where I said this, go ahead. Hamas has changed owners, Hamas. You confused the Sunni guys with Shiite

        Unfortunately this site does not store old posts long enough, but I remembered that discussion precisely because it was about Shiites ...
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 53
          -2
          Why wouldn’t it be stored? I found posts for the year 2010.

          Hamas really found a new dad - Qatar. And Hezbollah whom?
          1. Arkan
            Arkan 13 June 2013 23: 17
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            Why wouldn’t it be stored? I found posts for the year 2010.

            Hamas really found a new dad - Qatar. And Hezbollah whom?

            They talked about the possible bombing of Iran, discussed possible countermeasures with the participation of Hezbollah - you gave a bunch of arguments in favor of not interfering (from the results of "Cast Lead" to "new owners" - the same Qatar.). about Hamas - I would not be surprised if they began to work even for Israel, and most likely I did not remember. smile
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 June 2013 23: 34
              -3
              Well, I said - if the bombing of Iran goes, the big question is whether Hezbollah will intervene. I couldn’t say such stupidity about Qatar, forgive me. As far as I recall, we talked about Hamas and Hezbollah. That’s what it was all about the new Papic Hamas, and about some kind of Hezbollah insecurity - the guys are also not suicides.
  • Egor.nic
    Egor.nic 13 June 2013 14: 30
    +2
    How are you right sire. wink
  • Skarte
    Skarte 13 June 2013 08: 45
    10
    Oh, what a game is unfolding ... If our guys find themselves there, then there will be no end to provocations from the militants, so apparently a group of DShB has been formed (for sure, the guys there are not simple) ... It can be assumed that our peacekeepers will play the role of a "magnet "will draw the attention of the militants, thereby giving the government forces to operate more freely ... We will follow the final decision of the community and Israel.
    1. Bort radist
      Bort radist 13 June 2013 14: 27
      0
      Quote: Skarte
      our peacekeepers will play the role of a "magnet"

      And then they are behind ........ shorter hit the rear.
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 13 June 2013 18: 15
        +1
        Quote: Bort Radist
        And then they are behind ........ shorter hit the rear.

        It seems that the rear geyropeytsy master)
        1. Skarte
          Skarte 14 June 2013 07: 37
          0
          that's for sure)))) wassat
  • Dimitry
    Dimitry 13 June 2013 08: 47
    +2
    The West, with its allies, is trying to squeeze out the entire peacekeeping contingent from the Golan Heights, with the aim of creating a safe zone specifically for sheltering extremists in these territories (essentially Syrian), and Israel will act as a feed for weapons and food. Therefore, periodic shelling of peacekeepers is underway.
  • igor36
    igor36 13 June 2013 08: 49
    10
    Gentlemen, there are no friends and enemies; there are common interests. Now the situation is developing in such a way that Assad is better for Israel than a gangster enclave, for Russia too, so this should be used.
    1. Simon
      Simon 13 June 2013 16: 11
      0
      I agree with you!
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 13 June 2013 19: 49
      -1
      Quote: igor36
      Now the situation is developing in such a way that Assad is better for Israel than a gangster enclave, for Russia too, so this should be used.

      Terrorists have come to gollans! Israel is bad - this is a fact! Why should our guys die for the interests of Israel? Israel does not want the Gollans to be occupied by Syrian troops, that's all! With one shot, two birds with one stone will be killed if ours go there!
      1. sak1969
        sak1969 13 June 2013 22: 51
        0
        Yes, so to speak, the viper is not weak there. Syrians with Hezbollah. Hamas with al Qaeda. Israel is ready for the extreme. And it is necessary to cover Syria and it is advisable not to spoil relations with Israel ...
        Amer weapons assistance to Syrian fighters will not be limited. Their marines were not just introduced to Jordan, so there will be special operations.
        You should not rely heavily on the base of Tartus and our marines and the naval group off the coast of Syria. Covering the sea is one thing. Another thing is to openly act in Syria, with increased opposition from the United States.
  • orff
    orff 13 June 2013 08: 49
    +2
    Instead of Austrian peacekeepers, a post in the Golan Heights will be carried out by Fijian military personnel. The first detachment of 192 soldiers may be sent soon. This was announced by the representative of the command of the land forces of the island republic, Colonel Moses Tikoitog.
    The exact date of sending the soldiers will become known at the end of negotiations with the UN leadership, according to the media.
    The Fijian military is called upon to partially replace the Austrian contingent leaving the Golan. The question was the presence in the demilitarized zone of the Philippine contingent.
    After the departure of the Austrians, 341 soldiers from the Philippines and 193 soldiers from India will remain in the UNDOF.
    Earlier, the UN official representative Martin Nesirki "refused" Moscow to send Russian peacekeepers to the Golan, explaining that according to the existing rules, the military personnel of the countries - permanent members of the Security Council cannot be present on this territory.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 June 2013 09: 31
      +9
      Yeah ... Beware of the gangster. Fijian thugs are on their way ...
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 13 June 2013 09: 52
        10
        Quote: retired
        .Beware of gangsters. Fijian thugs are on their way ...

        They don’t eat people at home anymore?
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 13 June 2013 09: 55
          13
          Tastier abroad. And the relatives of the eaten are not offended ...
        2. ultra
          ultra 13 June 2013 11: 48
          +2
          Quote: Vladimirets
          They don’t eat people at home anymore?

          Everyone who was delicious, Ate! bully
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 13 June 2013 12: 01
            +1
            Or not fed enough.
    2. T-73
      T-73 13 June 2013 12: 42
      +3
      Tourists, damn it. Though they will see the world, they will show themselves. Or maybe just mixed up with the Netherlands? and are looking forward to something completely different than the trenches?
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 13 June 2013 13: 15
        0
        So they will sit on palm trees. What trenches?
    3. MstislavHrabr
      MstislavHrabr 13 June 2013 17: 37
      +2
      I propose to send the Russian contingent under the flag of Belarus.
      1. Genady1976
        Genady1976 13 June 2013 18: 00
        0
        good Haha joker, however, we don’t have our own flag laughing
    4. Day 11
      Day 11 13 June 2013 23: 22
      +2
      Wisely - some will say .... Aggressively - others will say .... Everyone will be right in their own way
  • Dimitry
    Dimitry 13 June 2013 08: 53
    +6
    Israel will never allow Russia to enter the Golan Heights, this will be the failure of the entire plan to capture both Syria and the elimination of Assad. Israel is now practically openly supporting militants with weapons and the treatment of extremists wounded on its territory.
    1. Vasya Ivanov
      Vasya Ivanov 13 June 2013 09: 54
      +5
      To the point, Israel and the SSA merged in ecstasy.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 June 2013 12: 00
        0
        But this is stupid
    2. Day 11
      Day 11 13 June 2013 10: 27
      0
      Israel has no plans to seize Syria
      1. Vasya Ivanov
        Vasya Ivanov 13 June 2013 10: 33
        +2
        Yah? Would you like to tell us about the plans of Israel, if so knowledgeable?
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 13 June 2013 10: 50
          +3
          Repeatedly, these plans have already been voiced. They need an ongoing military conflict by the Arab countries on BV. They don’t need to get in there. Deliveries of small arms, informational assistance to one side or the other is ALL! And yet, I didn’t drink at the same table with you, something to poke me!
          1. Vasya Ivanov
            Vasya Ivanov 13 June 2013 11: 06
            +3
            Each time before the occupation of a territory, Israel said: we don’t need anything, and when he occupies it, he says: it happened.
            But YOU weren’t angry, on the site for me everything is already as intimately familiar.
          2. Pimply
            Pimply 13 June 2013 12: 03
            -3
            Well, what kind of supplies, huh? There are enough suppliers and interested parties. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey. There, the main thing is simply not to get involved.
            1. Arkan
              Arkan 13 June 2013 22: 44
              +1
              Quote: Pimply
              Well, what kind of supplies, huh? There are enough suppliers and interested parties. Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey.

              That's right! The function of Israel in this conspiracy is information support, information war in the interests of the SSA, as well as lobbying for the interests of the SSA in the USA and Europe. In other words, everyone uses his opportunities. smile
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 55
                0
                What information war - in more detail, with links, plz. Do you even understand what nonsense you're talking about?
                1. Arkan
                  Arkan 14 June 2013 00: 38
                  +3
                  Quote: Pimply
                  What information war - in more detail, with links, plz. Do you even understand what nonsense you're talking about?

                  I already wrote to you about the links - I'll just give you a tip http://korrespondent.net/ Find out who owns the site, who is the editor-in-chief and read the articles on Syria (of those that were posted more than two months ago, because in the last time, the tone has changed a lot), then - pay attention to the comments and commentators ... I'll simplify your task: the commentator with the nickname "watchdog" is a Jew diligently posing as a Ukrainian (he is not the only one there, by the way - not only on Assad but also on Russia ...), maybe he will tell you (as a fellow countryman) about the meaning of his comments (and the articles posted on the resource). Next, you go to any American or European information resource belonging to Jews (however, enough if the editor-in-chief is Jewish) and compare the articles and comments with those already read on the "Ukrainian" resource - and you are glad that all the Jews of the planet think the same way, write the same, make mistakes - also the same and at the same time ... laughing Or demonization of one of the parties to the conflict, and elevation to the rank of "martyrs", etc. the other side is not considered an information war in Israel?
                  1. Day 11
                    Day 11 14 June 2013 00: 55
                    +2
                    I confirm, http://korrespondent.net --- that still Russophobic cesspool. I visited a couple of times
                    1. Genady1976
                      Genady1976 14 June 2013 01: 01
                      +1
                      Damn, what for you showed me this, I can’t sleep calmly crying
                  2. Pimply
                    Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 59
                    -2
                    AAA, the plot! Panic Panic Panic!
                    1. Arkan
                      Arkan 14 June 2013 01: 12
                      +3
                      Quote: Pimply
                      AAA, the plot! Panic Panic Panic!

                      laughing I was sure that your reaction would be just that. good
          3. Bort radist
            Bort radist 13 June 2013 14: 32
            +2
            Quote: Den 11
            And I’m with you at the same table.

            Quote: Vasya Ivanov
            on the site for me everything is already as intimately familiar.

            Case for small drinks
    3. Professor
      Professor 13 June 2013 12: 02
      -9
      Quote: Demetrius
      Israel is now practically openly supporting militants with weapons and the treatment of extremists wounded on its territory.

      Fanatzer you however. Photo weapons in the studio.
      1. Dimitry
        Dimitry 13 June 2013 14: 04
        +6
        Professor you are limited in knowledge, outline ..................


        During the cleansing of El Quseir, representatives of the Syrian army found Israeli military equipment used by Syrian militants. Arab sources reported the discovery of weapons of Zionist regime production in western Syria.

        According to the Arabi Press news site, during the Syrian army’s attack on the position of terrorists in the Rif al-Qasir region, on the border of Syria and Lebanon, a large number of Israeli-made weapons were found in the shelters of the terrorists.
        Broadcast - The Syrian army reported the discovery of a large number of Israeli and American weapons during an operation to clean up the province of Homs, in the center of the country.


        Units of the Syrian army during an operation in the eastern part of al-Buwaiza near the city of al-Qusayr, in the province of Homs, discovered several terrorist shelters and seized a large number of weapons and ammunition, in particular American and Israeli production. One of the Syrian army officers said that government troops, after cleansing the areas of Masoudia and Salehiya north of al-Qusayr, also cleared the area of ​​East al-Buwayza. The Syrian army recently recaptured the strategic city of al-Qusayr during a large-scale operation
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 37
          -5
          Considering how much equipment was left in Lebanon leaving in 2000, this is not a surprise.
          1. Kirgudum
            Kirgudum 13 June 2013 15: 26
            +7
            What is it that turns out, the IDF is the suckers who supplied weapons to their opponents? By the way, in Lebanon, the Hezbollah ball rules, and the weapon got first of all to her, and not to the Syrian rebels, who then were not even mentioned.
            So leave your excuses "the Etolivan weapon left by the TSAHAL" for mugs.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 June 2013 16: 20
              -4
              They came out, thanks to Ehud Barak, gloomy. In addition, Israeli weapons remained at the TsADAL - Army of Southern Lebanon. Weapons to whom they just didn’t get there.
              Besides, did you see how he was captured? No, they just showed you a jeep, right?

              And the worst accusation for any Arab or group is cooperation with Israel. What do you think is the rise in anti-Israeli rhetoric on Syrian TV?

              In order to supply your weapons without hiding, you must either clearly indicate your support for a particular regime or group, or be a complete idiot?

              Israel clearly outlined its support for the Syrian opposition? Or are they in the IDF?
          2. Papakiko
            Papakiko 13 June 2013 17: 46
            +1
            Quote: Pimply
            Considering how much equipment was left in Lebanon leaving in 2000, this is not a surprise.

            Dear, I'm in shock! belay
            This phrase can be rearranged in another way.
            Valorous SHEET from Lebanon s.
            And for Anyone, withdrawing the army, weapons and equipment are not thrown as unnecessary "Type was not useful."
            During the last "special operation" in 2006, you probably also "won"?
            We’ll probably find out in a few years.
            1. igor67
              igor67 13 June 2013 18: 30
              +2
              Quote: Papakiko
              Quote: Pimply
              Considering how much equipment was left in Lebanon leaving in 2000, this is not a surprise.

              Dear, I'm in shock! belay
              This phrase can be rearranged in another way.
              Valorous SHEET from Lebanon s.
              And for Anyone, withdrawing the army, weapons and equipment are not thrown as unnecessary "Type was not useful."
              During the last "special operation" in 2006, you probably also "won"?
              We’ll probably find out in a few years.

              Here I’m not agreeing with you, withdrawing Soviet troops from Afghanistan and from African countries, they also left weapons and equipment to hell, And from Lebanon I’ve generally been sent out overnight
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 13 June 2013 18: 53
                0
                Quote: igor67
                Here I’m not agreeing with you, withdrawing Soviet troops from Afghanistan and from African countries, they also left weapons and equipment to hell, And from Lebanon I’ve generally been sent out overnight

                What are you, forever but with a bored nose-clumsy tows to poke around in what ?!
                In the listed places for many thousands of kilometers. imported for years.
                And Lebanon and Israel are neighboring states.
                From Eilat to Aarid and Burbar (From South to North) -550 (well let it be 600)Kilometers Of these, Lebanon accounts for 200 km.
                What prevented (helped) (not) to scatter weapons?
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 13 June 2013 21: 00
                  -6
                  Respected. Ponte, bent fingers and anti-Semitic bazaar leave at home
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 13 June 2013 21: 48
                    +5
                    Quote: Pimply
                    Respected. Ponte, bent fingers and anti-Semitic bazaar leave at home

                    There will be no Zionist bullshit scattered, there will not be anything else.
                    No need to compare the Mouse with the Elephant and attribute the logistics here.
                    It is strange that they did not refer to the conclusion of the GBV and to the abandoned property.
                    I remember hundreds and hundreds of echelons taking away weapons and equipment of GBV.
                    And how much was left and sold?
                    The total area of ​​Lebanon is 10452 km² of which half are "mountains".
                    What warehouses could the IDF leave there?
                    The reality is that in Lebanon, shells, cartridges, machine guns, machine guns, shots for RPGs, RPGs themselves, sanitary equipment, diesel generators, back-ground stations, barbed wire, anti-personnel mines, etc., were left in Lebanon. small things. (everything can be equated to toilet paper and for any not hundreds of thousands of tons)
                    In general, an obvious bullshit cry, as with Calacosta.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 13 June 2013 21: 52
                      -1
                      Quote: Papakiko
                      What warehouses could the IDF leave there?

                      Do not own information - do not write nonsense. Yes, and should not be rude. negative
                      1. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 13 June 2013 22: 00
                        +4
                        Quote: Professor
                        Do not own information - do not write nonsense.

                        A person from yours who owns the information and writes the same - nonsense.
                        Quote: Professor
                        do not write nonsense

                        withdrawing Soviet troops from both Afghanistan and African countries, they also left weapons and equipment to hell- Is this probably not stupid?
                        Quote: Professor
                        Yes, and should not be rude.

                        Personally, I am not rude to you, I only provoke you to write truthful information about the secrets of the IDF. And I always ask the Israelis appointees not to wave the "Calacosta flag" (.
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 13 June 2013 22: 46
                        -1
                        Quote: Papakiko
                        withdrawing Soviet troops from both Afghanistan and African countries, they also left weapons and equipment to hell - is this probably not stupid?

                        I repeat, do not know the details, do not write nonsense. First take an interest in how Israeli peacekeepers left Lebanon, and only then try to speak out on the topic.

                        Quote: Papakiko
                        Personally, I’m not rude to you, I only provoke you to write truthful information about the secrets of the IDF

                        Continue to be rude - add yourself to the "honorable" row of boors on my Black List.

                        Quote: Papakiko
                        "flag of Calacosta"

                        Are you Natsik or sympathetic?
                      3. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 14 June 2013 08: 42
                        -1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Ask first how Israeli peacekeepers left Lebanon

                        Guerrr Professor this is not even +1 it is +100.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Continue to be rude - add yourself to the "honorable" row of boors on my Black List.

                        Again 25 or 7 \ 40.

                        Quote: Professor
                        Are you Natsik or sympathetic?

                        Are you naive or a hypocrite waving a Calacosta?
                      4. Professor
                        Professor 14 June 2013 10: 07
                        -2
                        So Natsik. Now I have a dilemma: in a folder with Natsik or boors ... What should I do?
                      5. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 14 June 2013 11: 52
                        +2
                        Quote: Professor
                        So Natsik.

                        Up to 4 killed-tortured citizens of Jewish nationality you put above killed-tortured-burned-frozen-hanged 30-000 USSR citizens?
                        I had a better opinion of you.
                        Quote: Professor
                        Now I have a dilemma: in the folder with Natsik or boors

                        Personally, I do not have such folders.
                        I’m not going to divide by ethnicity.
                        Everything is built solely on the perception of the thought thrown by the visitors.
                        Either a rational person with balanced conclusions and thoughts, or a tolerant hypocrite. He doesn’t bring others to the resource.
                        Who do you identify with?
                      6. Professor
                        Professor 14 June 2013 14: 12
                        -2
                        Quote: Papakiko
                        Prior to 4 000 000 of killed-tortured citizens of Jewish nationality do you put higher than killed-tortured-burned-frozen-hanged 30 000 000-40 000 000 citizens of the USSR?

                        Not 4 million, but 6 millions (which is the Holocaust or European Holocaust Holocaust) and I have never put citizens of other nations higher than anywhere else. You forgot to mention the Chinese, more than Soviet citizens perished in that war. Nevertheless, Holocaust had a place to be, and if you think that this is not so, then I have nothing to talk about with you.

                        Quote: Papakiko
                        Either a rational person with balanced conclusions and thoughts, or a tolerant hypocrite. He doesn’t bring others to the resource.

                        Deep knowledge in psychology. good
                      7. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 14 June 2013 16: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: Professor
                        Nevertheless, Holocaust had a place to be, and if you think that this is not so, then I have nothing to talk about with you.

                        "Handsome"!
                        So you acknowledge that the genocide of European Jews fades against the background of the genocide of the Belarusian people and the peoples of the USSR. In Belarus, every second resident sank into the waters of Styx. In the USSR, this is every 7 people.
                        Jews gave their own name to the genocide of Jews.
                        Where is the proper name for the Chinese Genocide, the Indians of the Americas and the Negro Genocide in Africa?

                        You do not insult anyone whom, on a national or religious basis, has been destroyed over the past 1000 years, swearing by Calacosta?

                        Quote: Professor
                        Deep knowledge in psychology

                        I'm talking about the perception of information and not about psychology.

                        Write articles about the "megatank" carrot, it's better than waving scimitars with visitors to the resource.
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 02
          -2
          Well, my friend, do not spit - disgusting. Behave like a hysterical student.
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  • Pimply
    Pimply 13 June 2013 20: 59
    -1
    Tzahal in Lebanon sat for 18 years. And had a fairly stable position. But Comrade Ehud Barak came. A man, even in the past, is a military man, of the chief of staff, but with great ambitions of the peacemaker, and in the army after the 1997 incident, he is not much loved. And very abruptly - literally in one night - he sent troops out of Lebanon. If you imagine the logistics of evacuation, you can imagine how many army goods are usually left in such cases. In addition, the Army of Southern Lebanon remained there. In general, a little pleasant in the end. Policy.
  • Professor
    Professor 14 June 2013 08: 13
    -1
    Quote: Demetrius
    The Syrian army reported the discovery of a large number of Israeli and American weapons during an operation to clean up the province of Homs, in the center of the country.

    Stuff in the studio. I have heard the voiced messages of all kinds of agencies for 2 of the year, among them are reports of the capture of two Israeli pilots. laughing
  • Pimply
    Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 06
    -3
    Oh, they’ll present it now. Both Sufu and Galili
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 13 June 2013 18: 57
      +2
      Quote: Pimply
      Oh, they’ll present it now. Both Sufu and Galili

  • Ljubomir
    Ljubomir 13 June 2013 15: 26
    +2
    Quote: Professor
    Photo weapons in the studio.

    http://anna-news.info/node/11703
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 13 June 2013 20: 01
      +1
      I concluded for myself. If ours tuck in there, it will mean direct military support for Israel or their protection from militants! Our peacekeeping will serve as a human shield between Israel and the militants. Syria does not need our peacemaking in the gollans! And Israel does not need Syrian troops on the gollans, since the territory is controversial. In short, the leaders of the Jewish state of youth, again thought everything through. It’s good to rake the heat with the wrong hands .......
      The peacekeeping contingent is there to prevent a conflict between Israel and Syria! The militants intervened, i.e. the third force, which are not subordinate to anyone and the countries decided to withdraw their military, since it became dangerous there! I’m wondering what advantages Russia will get from entering its contingent! Cons on the face, first of all, it is an armed conflict far from its borders, additional costs, the death of soldiers, etc., and what are the advantages? What is cheeseboarding for?
      1. Day 11
        Day 11 13 June 2013 20: 07
        0
        Raising the prestige of Russia in the Arab world. I think there will be formations from the Caucasus
        1. Skarte
          Skarte 14 June 2013 07: 35
          +2
          I think there will be formations from the Caucasus

          The mission is delicate, not for them.
          On June 10, RT reminds, it became known that on the basis of the 31st separate air assault brigade, a peacekeeping brigade was formed to carry out tasks under the auspices of the UN or the CSTO.
          Rather, they will be there if they are.
    2. Professor
      Professor 13 June 2013 22: 00
      -2
      Quote: Lubomyr
      http://anna-news.info/node/11703

      The link is broken.

      PS
      Opened, laughed. "Journalists" are smoking weed. The illuminating mine is called, I quote attention: "a mortar mine loaded with a poisonous chemical." Marat, do not mix the substance from this mine with alcohol - you will get poisoned. wassat This "Israeli" weapon came from Lebanon, it would be time to learn that both the "Israeli-made" Lau RPG and the "poisonous chemical" mortar mine.
  • patrianostra
    patrianostra 16 June 2013 21: 13
    0
    Dear tell the photo in the studio laughing smiled famously in the presence of millions of trunks lying in the warehouses, despite the fact that they were captured after a whole heap of wars and cleansing of the points of the "freedom fighters". With which even the special forces of the navy are operating
    1. Professor
      Professor 16 June 2013 21: 19
      0
      Quote: patrianostra
      Dear, say the photo in the studio smiled famously in the presence of millions of trunks lying in warehouses, while they were trophy after a whole heap of wars and cleansing of the points of "freedom fighters". With which even the special forces of the navy are operating

      Well, where is the photo?
      1. patrianostra
        patrianostra 17 June 2013 21: 41
        0
        I recommend that you carefully look at the photo if you do not see two of the five AKMs with a light body kit then a little sloshka hi
  • fenix57
    fenix57 13 June 2013 08: 57
    20
    As they say, feel the difference between:"Russians are coming!"and " 1000 American foot soldiers arrived in the Jordanian port of Aqaba. Americans “Under a strong Jordanian escort” transferred to the border with Syria. "

    In the middle of the ocean the liner is drowning. The captain is in a panic, and here he is informed that among the passengers there is a rabbi who can perform miracles. He is urgently brought to the captain, and he asks:
    - Rabbi, what can be done?
    - Do you have internet?
    - There is!
    - Then quickly sell the ship.
    hi
  • Skarte
    Skarte 13 June 2013 08: 57
    +6
    Quote: GreatRussia
    It is as if someone is interested in the opinion of Israel about it needed-not needed.

    Oh, Israel-Israel, a strong player in that region, and especially when the United States holds a hand on its shoulder ... The decision of Israel, and the United States in particular, to enable our peacekeepers to resolve the problem, can mean two things.
    1) there really is a desire to resolve the problem.
    2) or (which seems to me more) a cunning plan in order to finally draw us there.
    After diplomatic wars and accusations against Russia of complicity with the "tyrant" Assad, the absence of a categorical "no" is very alarming, as if they are flirting. If everyone agreed at once, it would be rather suspicious, but here it is, slyly "we will think"!
  • Dimitry
    Dimitry 13 June 2013 09: 00
    +3
    You yourself will represent the peacekeeping contingent from Fiji, put a maximum of 2 months of their presence in the Golan, the Austrians even when loading home started a queue as a keepsake, they do not leave, they run, how many valiant Fiji soldiers will awaken?
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 13 June 2013 10: 35
      +1
      Who knows? Nobody saw them in business! Maybe they will tear the 5th point, for "exposure" on the world stage, although this is a former English colony (these usually listen to the opinion of the former owners)
  • bairat
    bairat 13 June 2013 09: 07
    12
    Not a docking: the title of the theme is "Russians are coming" against the background of a photograph of an Israeli tank.
    1. IRBIS
      IRBIS 13 June 2013 11: 45
      +2
      Quote: bairat
      Not a docking: the title of the theme is "Russians are coming" against the background of a photograph of an Israeli tank.

      So in the tank - the Russians! The truth does not go, but they go!
  • erased
    erased 13 June 2013 09: 08
    +1
    One thing that doesn’t suit me in this whole story is why substitute Russian guys for bullets? If it gets hot in the Golan, the blood of the peacekeepers will pour. For a long time did not bury soldiers?
    And if they send conscripts, it will be fun ...
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 29
      +2
      Put +. Because I also do not clearly understand such a need. Although events are unfolding rapidly and maybe I don’t know something. By the way, in my opinion, neither Israel, nor the United States, too, have completely calculated the situation - hence the contradictory statements.
    2. Evgeny_Lev
      Evgeny_Lev 13 June 2013 10: 01
      10
      Well, let's leave the peacekeepers at home marching on the parade ground, and sweeping it.

      The mood of your koment is not clear, the guys that serve as peacekeepers deliberately chose the path of a warrior. Of course, no one wants to die, but the interests of the motherland must be defended by someone.
    3. Vasya Ivanov
      Vasya Ivanov 13 June 2013 10: 28
      12
      Quote: erased
      One thing that doesn’t suit me in this whole story is why substitute Russian guys for bullets?

      If tomorrow our guys will not be in the Golan, then the day after tomorrow they will crush Syria, it will be necessary to bury not only military and civilians already in Russia.
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 13 June 2013 10: 52
        +1
        Quote: Vasya Ivanov
        If tomorrow our guys will not be in the Golan, then the day after tomorrow they will crush Syria, it will be necessary to bury not only military and civilians already in Russia.


        Well, let them come to an agreement so that not just "meat" with Kalash were sent, but also no heavy weapons.
        1. Skarte
          Skarte 13 June 2013 11: 55
          +1
          heavy weapons whatsoever.

          If I’m not mistaken (those who know will correct), it is forbidden to use heavy equipment, weapons in the peacekeeping contingents ... armored personnel carriers and, in extreme cases, armored personnel carriers ...
          1. zvereok
            zvereok 13 June 2013 12: 53
            -1
            You can also tanks and helicopters. Only specifically in the mission in the Golan - lowering, because the peacekeepers carry out there the mission of extras.
    4. Orty
      Orty 13 June 2013 11: 38
      20
      Excuse me for x..i Russia needs the armed forces? If we are so afraid to apply them? In addition, no one is going to send conscripts there, only contract soldiers, but even if conscripts, you treasure tremble for the lives of Russian soldiers and worry about Russia's interests that you propose not to protect these interests if there is a risk that our soldiers might die? But then why this army if it does not protect the interests of the state? Parade to walk on Red Square?
  • Grbear
    Grbear 13 June 2013 09: 15
    +4
    Friend-Enemy or Bad-Good. What are "childish" concepts in politics?

    There are partnerships in the interests of two or more parties that can improve or worsen in a particular historical period under the influence of something there. This is the work of foreign affairs agencies (from the Foreign Ministry to the GRU). Everything else is demagogy or just war.
  • Ragnarek
    Ragnarek 13 June 2013 09: 18
    +4
    and in general it would be good to designate a real military presence in the region. Our 31st brigade is practically all contractual - the men are all seasoned, so they can handle it. and to strengthen it, I would also send the "east" battalion to instill terror in the hearts of Jews
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 13 June 2013 09: 37
      +2
      Quote: Ragnarek
      to instill terror in the hearts of Jews

      Jews have to do with it? Or do you think that peacekeepers in the Golan will fight with the IDF?
      1. avant-garde
        avant-garde 13 June 2013 09: 42
        +3
        Quote: Rumata
        Or do you think that peacekeepers in the Golan will fight with the IDF?

        Peacekeepers do not fight with anyone the word itself speaks about it !!!
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 13 June 2013 09: 54
          +4
          Quote: avant-garde
          Peacekeepers do not fight with anyone the word itself speaks about it !!!

          Why then will they terrify Israel? =) I did not understand this landing, so I asked
          1. Simon
            Simon 13 June 2013 16: 25
            +3
            Syria and Israel are not at war at the moment, although they are on the brink of war and will hardly fight in the future. This war is not necessary for Israel, not for Syria, since Syria will not be able to pull it, and Israel does not need conflicts with other Arab countries, which do not support "democratic" militant formations in Syria. But the militants, fosterlings of amers and Anglo-Saxons, can provoke a war between both countries. This is why peacekeeping forces are needed there.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 June 2013 16: 59
              -1
              They are fighting. De jure.
        2. tungus
          tungus 13 June 2013 16: 59
          -2
          Quote: avant-garde
          Peacekeepers do not fight with anyone the word itself speaks about it !!!

          Yes, they do not fight. They carry out peace enforcement operations.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 June 2013 17: 05
            +1
            No, not peacekeepers are doing this.
      2. Ragnarek
        Ragnarek 13 June 2013 23: 03
        +1
        and Jews have nothing to do with it smile
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 13 June 2013 10: 32
      +3
      Quote: Ragnarek
      to instill terror in the hearts of Jews

      Ummm to Jews who live in America or Birobidzhan?
      A simple Jew he is as simple as you and me .. and there are "God's chosen" Chabadniks and so on .. and so it is they who shake and will not // they enter the "offices" ...
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 13 June 2013 12: 14
        +1
        The film makes a good brain. Is this all true? Who is in the know?
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 08
          -6
          David Duke is a well-known anti-Semite, racist, Holocaust denier, Nazi. He headed one of the branches of the Ku Klus Klan.
          1. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 13 June 2013 23: 03
            +3
            Something you are already very knowledgeable respected in this topic) And it is already painful for a dairy cow to worry about the Holocaust)
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 June 2013 23: 38
              -1
              In the Holocaust, all my great-great-grandmothers and great-great-grandfathers were led - and they were many years old, helpless old men. Those who remained from the family of the grandfather - all killed. There was one kinsman, said: the Germans will come, civilized people. Yeah, come.

              I am aware of Duke, because all kinds of illiterate comrades, having listened to his speech, not knowing the stories themselves, adore his crafts as evidence to bring. For these archival documents, they are poorly seated - for this you need to know the languages, perseverance is needed. It’s better to listen to the Nazis with whom our grandfathers fought, to listen, and to applaud.
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 13 June 2013 17: 27
          +1
          Quote: retired
          Is all this true?

          laughing the most common thing is that you will not refute the quotes on the video and excerpts from newspapers .. but they will start
          Quote: Pimply
          famous anti-Semite, racist, Holocaust denier, Nazi. He headed one of the branches of the Ku Klus Klan.

          and quotes given from newspapers and other things, no one will deny to you ..
          Maybe you remember how the American court ruled against everyone that Russia should "return" the library .. and wrote a fine for every day there ... which no one pays, but the fact remains
          Russia is outraged by the verdict passed by the American court on the so-called "Schneerson collection". This is stated in the published statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Washington decided that Moscow should pay the Orthodox Jewish movement in the United States $ 50 daily.
          4 425 old books - a collection around which serious passions have been boiling for decades - are peacefully on the shelves of the Russian State Library. The temperature regime, and with it the degree of Russian-American cultural dialogue, threatens to disrupt another scandalous decision of the court of the American District of Columbia. According to it, Russia must pay 50 thousand dollars daily for refusing to transfer the library to the Jewish organization "Chabad". The Russian Foreign Ministry reacted harshly, calling the imposition of penalties against a sovereign state unprecedented, violating international law.

          So do not be angry about the minus)))
          here is a link to the news
          http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1008246
          1. SSR
            SSR 13 June 2013 21: 55
            +1
            Quote: Scoun
            So do not be angry about the minus)))
            here is a link to the news

            Quote: Scoun
            and quotes given from newspapers and other things, no one will deny to you ..

            By the way, on the news they showed how the GDP with these hats .. in general, was transferred to the Museum of Tolerance and what else .... but there’s something else said about 80% of the Jews who at the dawn of the formation of the USSR staged genocide ...
            (I won’t find it myself! I’ll find it myself ..).
    3. spd2001
      spd2001 13 June 2013 11: 31
      +1
      Quote: Ragnarek
      I would still have a battalion "east"
      To do this, it still needs to be formed. and I don’t think it will be a peacekeeping formation. The article, as I understand it, is about peacekeeping, and not about the war with Israel.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 13 June 2013 09: 20
    +4
    If all the same, the politicians agree and our peacekeepers go to Syria, then this will be the case when everything was done correctly, and not partisanism, in the worst sense, as was previously suggested here. And each of our officers and soldiers will have every right to defend themselves and their comrades without hiding their faces (in which case) because the STATE will be behind them! (I do not believe in the UN).
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 36
      +2
      Quote: retired
      And each of our officers and soldiers will have every right to defend themselves and their comrades without hiding their faces.


      I do not know all the limitations of the mission in the Golan, but I can assume a lot of them. T.O. our soldiers will be put on a military level with the terrorists: the absence of heavy weapons. Moreover, they will stand even lower if they are allowed to open only return fire in order to protect themselves. In addition, there is no initiative - the locations of the peacekeepers are well known, and the terrorists simply will not have them - ambushes, unexpected minor attacks, mortar attacks, etc.

      This is of course the worst option, as it might be I really do not know.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 June 2013 09: 59
        +3
        Quote: zvereok
        T.O. our soldiers will be put on a military level with the terrorists: the absence of heavy weapons.

        To lower. There, only personal rifle is out of armament, equipment is also unarmed jeeps, armored personnel carriers and MRAPs. Terrorists are armed much more powerful.
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 13 June 2013 12: 09
        -2
        Awesome a lot, I would say. There are mainly observational functions. The use of weapons, even small arms, is severely limited. Their task is to monitor the prevention of heavy equipment in the conflict zone.
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 13 June 2013 13: 17
          -1
          Their task is to monitor the prevention of heavy equipment in the conflict zone.

          And what measures can peacekeepers take in the event of shelling by hezbollons or an IDF?
          1. Day 11
            Day 11 13 June 2013 13: 31
            +4
            Hezbollah certainly will not shell us. And from the rest, only a rifle (in any case, it is so prescribed in the UN charter if we enter under this flag)
          2. zvereok
            zvereok 13 June 2013 13: 34
            +3
            As far as I understand, record the shelling and transmit the report to higher UN bodies. Well, to shoot from machine guns.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 09
              -3
              That's right. Still - file a complaint.
  • ISO
    ISO 13 June 2013 09: 37
    +6
    Just so that the guys there are not stuck only with Kalash. Tanks, self-propelled guns and air defense
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 June 2013 09: 57
      0
      Ural will help ...
  • Rumata
    Rumata 13 June 2013 09: 41
    +3
    Quote: zvereok
    I do not know all the limitations of the mission in the Golan, but I can assume a lot of them. T.O. our soldiers will be put on a military level with the terrorists: the absence of heavy weapons.

    I wrote about too. In order to successfully fight, and not just be present, you need heavy equipment, necessarily helicopters, but you cannot take this with you. Terrorists will bombard the positions of Russian peacekeepers, and there will simply be nothing to answer. Such is the specificity of UN peacekeepers
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 52
      0
      Quote: Rumata
      In order to successfully fight, and not just be present, you need heavy equipment, surely helicopters


      This is a matter of agreements. Both Tanks and Helicopters UN Peacekeepers can use.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 13 June 2013 09: 56
        -1
        Quote: zvereok
        Both Tanks and Helicopters UN Peacekeepers can use.


        Not in this case. This is an observation mission. Only small, which can only be used for self-defense.
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 58
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          Not in this case. This is an observation mission. Only small, which can only be used for self-defense.

          I say:
          Quote: zvereok
          This is a matter of agreements.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 June 2013 11: 11
            +2
            I agree with you. Just clarified.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 13 June 2013 19: 54
          0
          Quote: Spade
          Rifle Only

          Isn’t that a small


          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 13 June 2013 22: 17
            0
            The second and third samples do not apply to personal rifle. And the third for the militants will be required.
    2. petr197108
      petr197108 13 June 2013 19: 36
      +3
      I think if the bearded will squeeze our peacekeepers, the guys from the sea will definitely cover them with what they need!
    3. Rustiger
      Rustiger 14 June 2013 10: 18
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      Rumata

      Oh, you dug up, Juden?
      You don't think of changing the "aspen" on your avatar to
    4. Che
      Che 14 June 2013 23: 42
      0
      Rumata, if you send our peacekeepers, they are perfectly armed and have air and intelligence support. then no rat snoops on the Golan. Jews and Syrians in chocolate.
  • soldier's grandson
    soldier's grandson 13 June 2013 09: 41
    0
    we need to send our peacekeepers to the Pentagon so that they make the right decisions
  • penyvr
    penyvr 13 June 2013 09: 44
    +2
    But we have a base in Tartus, which prevents us from deploying a battalion of marines or landing forces, the American marines would have thought ..
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 12: 19
      -1
      The fact that the government is well aware of what direct involvement in the war will grow into and what it will cost + what risks promise
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 13 June 2013 14: 44
        +2
        Quote: Pimply
        what direct involvement in the war will grow into and what it will cost + what risks promise

        Not participation, delayed war with even greater risks. Who does not risk .....
    2. ATATA
      ATATA 13 June 2013 12: 23
      +4
      Quote: penyvr
      But we have a base in Tartus, which prevents us from deploying a battalion of marines or landing forces, the American marines would have thought ..

      I already heard such statements. Like one battalion and in Grozny there will be peace and quiet, how it ended then everyone remembers.
      Not less than the brigade and with standard weapons, including air defense systems as part of the brigade in the first place. With the order to respond to provocations with fire from all types of weapons to defeat.
      To cool hotheads.
      Well, it’s clear that for Russia the deployment of peacekeepers in Syria is an opportunity to legally and practically unlimited supply weapons to Syria.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 10
        -2
        The deployment of peacekeepers under the UN mandate in the Golan is not the same as the deployment of peacekeepers in Syria.
  • Dimitry
    Dimitry 13 June 2013 09: 47
    +7
    At this stage, on the issue of Syria, Russia has trump cards in many scenarios of the development of the situation, Israel is trapped, Putin makes it clear that we will not supply the S-300, if Russian peacekeepers enter the Gollanny, if not, then the S-300 will be unloaded on the coast, because everything has been prepared for a long time, only the go-ahead is needed. From this it follows that there will definitely be a steep bargaining, only Israel has nothing to offer Russia, a country that is accustomed to breeding everyone with the help of the United States, in the Middle East and bombing everything that seems to be an imaginary threat itself turned out to be on a serious kukan, and most importantly, starry striped " hillock "can't help you .......
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 13 June 2013 09: 57
      +3
      Quote: Demetrius
      , Putin makes it clear that we will not deliver C-300, if Russian peacekeepers enter the Golland, if not, then we will unload C-300 ashore, because everything has been prepared for a long time, only the go-ahead is needed.


      And that will be? There is a chance that war will begin. It is even more likely that the Syrian armed forces will destroy the Israelis, and Iran may not have time / not want to take decisive action. The second question, at the cost of what losses, but this is really the second question. Russia needs Syria to live.
      1. ATATA
        ATATA 13 June 2013 12: 27
        +3
        Quote: zvereok
        The second question, at the cost of what losses, but this is really the second question. Russia needs Syria to live.

        Under this pretext, the USSR was destroyed, but the losses were still greater.
        Evil must be stopped, even with losses in the root, then the inevitable losses will still be minimal.
        1. zvereok
          zvereok 13 June 2013 13: 08
          -1
          Quote: ATATA
          Under this pretext, the USSR was destroyed, but the losses were still greater.
          Evil must be stopped, even with losses in the root, then the inevitable losses will still be minimal.


          So far, Syria is doing just fine without C-300. Let me remind you that she has armor and beeches, which are able (at least in terms of characteristics) to shoot down cruise missiles. Syria also has anti-ship systems. So, you won’t take it with your bare hands. And C-300 until we put it, remains our trump card.

          In addition, Syria has a military agreement with Iran, so let it bury its co-religionists there. Iran is well aware of what the loss of Syria will turn into, but wants to do everything with the wrong hands.

          Now, if Assad would give us a place under a military base, like Guantanomo, the tads could go there and send their troops with C-300. Yes, and interesting and different contracts to conclude.

          And so, for me I need to wait for at least until the new president in Iran decides on the outwardly political course towards the medium term.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 19
            -2
            The President does not determine Iran’s foreign policy. He is the second person, nominal. The main person is Ayatolda Khamenai. According to the constitution and reality. So do not wait for a change of course there.
            1. zvereok
              zvereok 13 June 2013 14: 52
              0
              Quote: Pimply
              The President does not determine Iran’s foreign policy. He is the second person, nominal. The main person is Ayatolda Khamenai. According to the constitution and reality. So do not wait for a change of course there.


              The current president is now trying to pull part of the authority on himself (his follower). So we will observe the development of events.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 June 2013 16: 21
                0
                Failed. His candidate was dismissed, and his supporters of the influentials were sharply shoved into prisons. Gin scandal remember? A comrade clearly indicated his place.
                1. zvereok
                  zvereok 13 June 2013 17: 00
                  0
                  Umm. My omission - I was just waiting for the event, I didn’t really follow the details, it doesn’t allow me to keep track of the time. Thanks for the info.
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 13 June 2013 09: 52
    +8
    They don’t want Russian peacekeepers, let the Belarusian go (who knows what). In any case, our peacekeepers always honestly perform their duties, unlike the NATO ones. Take Yugoslavia at least, where they looked through their fingers at the atrocities of the Albanians against the Serbs. And they will not put it on pants, unlike the Austrians, who, just smelling fried, smeared the skis from the Golan. In general, the soldier, of course, must be protected. But the military profession implies the risk of dying in hostilities. For what, this is another question, rather a political one.
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 13 June 2013 20: 14
      0
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      They don’t want Russian peacekeepers, let the Belarusian go (who knows what)

      Let Belarusians show what rail war is winked
      1. atalef
        atalef 13 June 2013 20: 15
        -4
        Quote: Setrac
        Let Belarusians show what rail war is
        Reply Quote

        Matches Gomel tree - they are fire-fighting.
  • alan_07
    alan_07 13 June 2013 09: 59
    +6
    Quote: retired
    There are things that sometimes it’s better to stay at this level, ”Elkin said, referring to Putin’s telephone conversation with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Friday.

    I believe that the conversation was as follows: We do not deliver the 300s, negotiate with the Austrians and they leave, and you stop bombing Syria and decide the question of our presence in the Gollan. Or we’ll put the 300th and will be present in Syria. Israel understands that after the war the air defense will remain on the territory of Syria, that is what they are afraid of, understanding their power. After all, the United States in the kingdom, and not Israel, landed 1000 foot soldiers, it seems our Kremlin Jews, bypassed the Jews of Israel and the United States :)
    And so good luck to all the men who go to serve in Syria.
  • Max otto
    Max otto 13 June 2013 10: 00
    0
    I do not believe that Israel is not against the presence of Russian peacekeepers. Most likely there, these from the "world community" have already decided everything under the carpet, found a victim - Fiji, and Israel can already openly weave all kinds of nonsense - but we do not mind, please, shalom Aleichem, Russians.
  • zvereok
    zvereok 13 June 2013 10: 02
    0
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    And they won’t put it on their pants, unlike the Austrians, who, just smelling fried, smeared the skis from the Golan


    In vain you are so about the Austrians.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 13 June 2013 10: 35
      +2
      Quote: zvereok
      In vain you are so about the Austrians.

      Maybe in vain, but it looks that way
      1. zvereok
        zvereok 13 June 2013 10: 39
        +2
        As already mentioned above, they have nothing to answer except small arms, i.e. they cannot use the right to self-defense - they are simply shot.
        1. Bort radist
          Bort radist 13 June 2013 14: 54
          +2
          Quote: zvereok
          those. they cannot use the right to self-defense - they are simply shot.

          08.08.08. already shot. Now even more so they will not give offense, the United States and Israel are well aware of this.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 13 June 2013 16: 22
            -2
            They were not there under the UN mandate.
            1. Bort radist
              Bort radist 13 June 2013 18: 02
              +2
              Quote: Pimply
              They were not there under the UN mandate.

              Under the mandate, the finale would be the same, I am sure.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 13 June 2013 21: 03
                0
                Under the UN mandate, they would not have the right to be there after some time.
                1. Day 11
                  Day 11 13 June 2013 21: 11
                  +3
                  The on-board radio operator is right. With a mandate, without a mandate, everything went to this and would happen in ANY case. The only ones could have had more gesheft (in the form of capture of Tiflis)
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 14 June 2013 09: 46
                    -2
                    Quote: Den 11
                    .With a mandate, without a mandate, everything went to this and would happen in ANY case.

                    Denis, look at this easier. 2 cars make the same accident, one driver with the rights, and the second without. Accidents are the same, but the consequences are different.
                2. Bort radist
                  Bort radist 13 June 2013 22: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: Pimply
                  Under the UN mandate, they would not have the right to be there after some time.

                  They entered Iraq to find chemical weapons. They are still looking for and where is he with mandates.
                  1. Pimply
                    Pimply 13 June 2013 22: 57
                    -1
                    If we had carefully studied history, we would have clearly known that we went to Iraq in search of biological weapons: we knew exactly about the chemical and found it. But no biological was found. Learn the materiel.

                    Further, where does the invasion of coalition forces in Iraq and the UN mandate have to do with it?
                    1. Lopatov
                      Lopatov 13 June 2013 23: 20
                      +3
                      Quote: Pimply
                      it was precisely known about the chemical, and it was found.

                      They didn’t find anything there. Neither the chemical weapons themselves, nor the equipment and reagents for their production.
                      1. Pimply
                        Pimply 13 June 2013 23: 38
                        -1
                        What are we going to argue about? ;)

                        Recognized by UN experts, recorded back in 1986, several hundred tons were found.

                        http://lenta.ru/news/2006/06/29/chemical/

                        http://russian.irib.ir/news/blizhni-vastok/item/150728-%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA-
                        %D1%83%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%87%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B8%D1%82-%D1%85%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%
                        D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5-%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D1%81%
                        D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B0

                        Iraq will neutralize and destroy the chemical weapons of Saddam Hussein.
                        In the south of Baghdad, there are still two special depots with chemical weapons left over from the former regime.
                        The British Department of Defense will train a group of Iraqi specialists and doctors to safely dispose of these weapons.

                        http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/specials/saddam/chemical.shtml


                        Lopatov, the whole plug with Iraq was precisely in the fact that the United States claimed that it had biological weapons. But they just did not find him, no matter how many were not looking for him.

                      2. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 13 June 2013 23: 46
                        +1
                        Isn't it easier to present the facts?
                      3. Pimply
                        Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 03
                        0
                        I, in my opinion, presented the facts. Links to specific events.

                        What other facts are you interested in? In 2009, Iraq announced that it had found approximately 500 shells with a chemical mark.
                      4. Genady1976
                        Genady1976 14 June 2013 00: 10
                        +1
                        planted yes yes yes
                      5. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 12
                        0
                        500 shells with traces of sarin. Found, by the way, the Poles.
                      6. Pimply
                        Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 15
                        -1
                        Exactly. Question not found or not found. Found it. The question is completely different. And this is clearly clear if you read the story of the beginning of the conflict at least once.
                      7. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 26
                        +3
                        This is not a chemical weapon. These are empty discs in which there was once a short-lived sarin.
                      8. Pimply
                        Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 30
                        0
                        Lopatov, this is a chemical weapon found several years after the invasion. Moreover, in what conditions it was stored, whether it was unfit for the year 2003, we do not know. It is known that he is recognized as the chemical weapon of Iraq and the UN. That's all. And the rest is semantics. The question is, de facto, it was obviously not found in the expected quantities.
                      9. Lopatov
                        Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 37
                        +4
                        No. The only thing they found was twenty-year-old discs. And not what the United States and Great Britain claimed:
                        - Iraq has usable chemical and biological weapons and their delivery vehicles - contrary to UN Security Council resolution numbered 687; most recently, Iraq has produced a large number of military chemical and biological substances;

                        - Saddam continues to attach great importance to the possession of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, since he sees in them the basis of Iraq’s power at the regional level. He is determined to continue building his capabilities in all of these areas;

                        - Iraq is able to deliver chemical and biological substances, using for this purpose a large arsenal of artillery shells of different ranges, free-fall bombs, sprinklers and ballistic missiles;

                        - Iraq continues to work on developing nuclear weapons contrary to its obligations under the Non-Proliferation Treaty and contrary to UN Security Council resolution # 687. An attempt was made to deliver uranium from Africa that cannot be used in Iraq for peaceful purposes;

                        - Iraq owns advanced modifications of SCAD ballistic missiles with an increased radius of action contrary to UN Security Council resolution # 687; these missiles are capable of reaching Cyprus, eastern Turkey, Tehran and Israel. Iraq is also developing further missiles with a longer range;

                        - The current military planning of Iraq makes a special bet on the use of chemical and biological weapons;

                        - The armed forces of Iraq are able to use chemical and biological weapons; For this, there are all the necessary means of control, delivery and management. Iraqi forces are able to bring these weapons into action 45 minutes after the adoption of the relevant decision;

                        - Iraq has learned from the experience of previous inspections of UN inspectors and has already taken a number of steps to conceal and disperse equipment and documentation in preparation for the return of inspectors;

                        - Iraq's programs for the development and production of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, as well as ballistic missile production programs, are well funded.
                      10. Pimply
                        Pimply 14 June 2013 01: 02
                        -1
                        But they found it, right?

                        The point is that most of those present here on the site are firmly convinced that Iraq has never had any chemical weapons. That, in general, is all.
                  2. zvereok
                    zvereok 14 June 2013 01: 43
                    +2
                    Quote: Spade
                    This is not a chemical weapon. These are empty discs in which there was once a short-lived sarin.


                    You are not right! Iraq had chemical weapons in Fallujah.

                    Pentagon: white phosphorus was used in Iraq only against terrorists


                    Washington, 16 Nov - RIA Novosti, Alexey Berezin. The Pentagon used white phosphorus exclusively in Iraq against terrorists, Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Barry Venable said in an interview with RIA Novosti.


                    “Indeed, in November 2004, during the operation in Fallujah, the US military used the chemical white phosphorus, but only against an armed enemy,” Vinable said.


                    This substance was used in strict accordance with the tactical instructions of the military department, the US military said.


                    “Civilians have never been targeted by the US Army. We do not use weapons against civilians,” Vinable said.


                    White phosphorus was then used for two purposes, he said. "First, with the help of phosphorus, smoke barriers were created to cover the attack of the forward forces," the lieutenant colonel said.


                    In the second case, he said, the chemical was used directly against armed people. "White phosphorus was used when it was necessary to smoke from the shelter of the entrenched terrorists and the use of artillery or other types of weapons was unacceptable," said a Pentagon spokesman.


                    On Tuesday, November 8, the Italian satellite channel RAI News 24 aired the investigative film Fallujah - The Hidden Massacre. The film tells about the use of white phosphorus by the US military against the population of Fallujah, banned back in 1980 by the UN Convention on Certain Types of Weapons. This chemical warfare agent cannot be extinguished.


                    One of the Americans who participated in the battles admitted that the military had been ordered to be careful, as they were going to use white phosphorus against Fallujah. "Phosphorus burns the body, it dissolves flesh to bone. I saw the burnt bodies of women and children. Phosphorus explodes and forms a cloud. Everyone within a radius of 150 meters is finished," the American said.

                    PS: This was the beginning, now the Pentagon no longer bothers with explanations if their demon pilot kills several civilians.
              2. Genady1976
                Genady1976 14 June 2013 00: 17
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                500 shells with traces of sarin. Found, by the way, the Poles.

                Poles tossed repeat
              3. Pimply
                Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 20
                -1
                And giggled insidiously at the same time.
              4. Lopatov
                Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 27
                +2
                No, there is junk of the 80s of production.
              5. Pimply
                Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 36
                0
                Nobody argues with this. But they found him.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 01
      +2
      So what? Where is it about the weapons found after the start of the second company?

      Quote: Pimply
      In the south of Baghdad, there are still two special depots with chemical weapons left over from the former regime.

      Duck. All that was found were shells with traces of sarin. As is known, unstable OM. Which is used almost immediately after production.
    3. Pimply
      Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 12
      -1
      Quote: Spade

      Duck. All that was found were shells with traces of sarin. As is known, unstable OM. Which is used almost immediately after production

      Isn't that a chemical weapon? The question is, in what condition - they didn’t immediately find it, but in 2006.
      In general, a strange situation - the UN recognizes the existence, Iraq recognizes, Lopatov - does not recognize.
      The question here is not whether they found it or not, but "in what condition" they found it.
      And the question is not whether they used it or not - but the question "when".
      And the question is not whether Saddam supported the terrorists, but which one he supported.

      Saddam did not support al-Qaeda, did not use chemical weapons in the 2000s and, yes, that was found in 2006 was not combat ready at that time.

      Saddam, yes, supported terrorists (for example, he paid $ 35000 to families of Palestinian suicide bombers), used chemical weapons in the 80s, and had chemical weapons whose quality and properties were unknown at the beginning of the Iraq campaign. Apparently, their stocks were relatively small.
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 21
      +2
      No. Shells with traces of sarin are not chem. weapons.

      The UN has never recognized the presence of chemical weapons in Iraq after its implementation of Security Council resolution number 687.

      And even more so, 350 tons of OM were not found, including 1.5 tons of VX gases and 3000 tons of ingredients for their production, about which the British and Americans broadcast
    5. Pimply
      Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 36
      -2
      Quote: Spade
      And even more so, 350 tons of OM were not found, including 1.5 tons of VX gases and 3000 tons of ingredients for their production, about which the British and Americans broadcast

      Are we talking about quantity? In my opinion, no. We talked about the fact of availability.
      Yes, shells with traces of sarin are not chemical weapons like a funnel with traces of uranium is not a bombed reactor.

      You decide what we are discussing.
    6. Lopatov
      Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 43
      +3
      We are talking about the facts. Neither chemical weapons, nor ingredients for its production, nor equipment for its production were found. However, the war was launched under the pretext that Iraq had it at the time it started.
    7. Pimply
      Pimply 14 June 2013 01: 03
      -2
      Three years later, shells with particles of sarin are found - no weapons. Well yes, now no. Iraq says yes and you say no
    8. zvereok
      zvereok 14 June 2013 01: 57
      +2
      Quote: Spade
      We are talking about the facts. Neither chemical weapons, nor ingredients for its production, nor equipment for its production were found. However, the war was launched under the pretext that Iraq had it at the time it started.


      The war began under the far-fetched pretext that Iraq had biological weapons or am I wrong?

      Chemical weapons were used by the Americans themselves.
    9. Pimply
      Pimply 14 June 2013 02: 02
      -1
      White phosphorus does not apply to chemical weapons, but refers to conventional weapons. Not everything where chemical reaction is used is chemical weapons.
    10. zvereok
      zvereok 14 June 2013 07: 59
      +1
      Quote: Pimply
      White phosphorus does not apply to chemical weapons, but refers to conventional weapons. Not everything where chemical reaction is used is chemical weapons.


      Well, I agree, only its use is immoral. If my memory serves me, civilians also died.

      Also depleted uranium cores:

      "After the use of ammunition with a core of depleted uranium, one should expect a surge in morbidity among the civilian population - radiation damage to the skin and internal organs, up to the development of radiation sickness, an increase in the incidence of cancer."

      Just like napalm in Vietnam. However, in Iraq, napalm Americans also used
  • Genady1976
    Genady1976 14 June 2013 00: 57
    +2
    and when they managed to throw it up, it’s interesting, and so you can blame anyone and then throw it up
  • Arkan
    Arkan 14 June 2013 00: 00
    +2
    Quote: Spade
    They didn’t find anything there. Neither the chemical weapons themselves, nor the equipment and reagents for their production.

    The plant for the manufacture of chemical weapons was built by specialists from the Federal Republic of Germany when he was friends with America (at that time the Federal Republic of Germany did not build "anything like that" without the approval of the United States), which is why the possession of chemical weapons was never "blamed" for Sadama.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 14 June 2013 00: 12
    +1
    Even as it was set.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 14 June 2013 00: 12
    -3
    There is also a mistake. It was put. See resolution 1441, for example.
  • Arkan
    Arkan 14 June 2013 00: 50
    +2
    Quote: Pimply
    There is also a mistake. It was put. See resolution 1441, for example.

    Perhaps I should say more correctly: Sadam’s chemical weapons weren’t the reason for the invasion. Before the invasion, he was accused only of using chemical weapons and not of their manufacture and storage. As well as Syria - at the moment, no one accuses her of production and storage of chemical weapons.
  • Pimply
    Pimply 14 June 2013 01: 06
    -2
    It was. Only the main reason was that Saddam allegedly resumed the production of weapons of mass destruction. This was the main feature. In addition, special emphasis - after September 11 - was on the fact that Hussein produces biological weapons (that is, one that is easy to transfer to terrorists, and one that is difficult to find.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 14 June 2013 01: 30
    +6
    “Here a teaspoon of anthrax spores is placed. It was enough to block the work of the entire US Senate in the fall of 2001. Iraq has tens, tens, tens of thousands of such teaspoons of these disputes. ”This is Colin Powell at the UN. The Americans never found a dispute in Iraq, but they found oil good Former US President George W. Bush said in an interview with the leading American TV channel "NBC" Matt Loer that he made the right decision, ordering to start a search for weapons of mass weapons in Iraq, reports NBC.
    In an interview with M. Loer, the ex-president did not apologize to US citizens for the operation to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
    "I believe that an apology would essentially mean that this decision was wrong. I do not think that it was wrong," said George W. Bush.
    “No one was more shocked and angry than me when we didn't find the weapon. I have a disgusting feeling every time I think about it. I still have it,” he said.
    According to NBC, the ex-president admitted in his memoir Key Decisions that many mistakes were made during the military campaign in Iraq. In particular, no weapons of mass destruction have been found, despite the fact that multiple reports from the American intelligence services said that Iraq possessed them.
    Read more: http://www.interfax.by/news/world/82653
  • Pimply
    Pimply 14 June 2013 02: 00
    -2
    Well, I’m talking about this. Chemical weapons were found - but obviously not in that quantity and in the wrong condition as expected. No biological was found at all - namely, it was the main focus.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist 15 June 2013 06: 34
    +1
    In turn, Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Dirita said that it was about 16 or 17 shells, which are now being studied in Iraq by a group of experts led by adviser to the CIA director Charles Delfer.

    Based on anonymity, U.S. intelligence officials said it was necessary to re-examine these munitions, since the first tests for chemical poisons are erroneous. They also added that the discovered ammunition was produced before the first war in the Persian Gulf, that is, in the period of the 1980s.

    At the same time, of all these explanations it remains unclear whether the shells are now filled with sarin or only contain traces of it. In any case, the find cannot serve as confirmation that the Hussein regime continued to create WMDs even in the 1990s after the adoption by the UN Security Council of a series of resolutions on the disarmament of Iraq, as the United States suspected.
  • zvereok
    zvereok 13 June 2013 16: 57
    +1
    Quote: Bort Radist
    Quote: zvereok
    those. they cannot use the right to self-defense - they are simply shot.

    08.08.08. already shot. Now even more so they will not give offense, the United States and Israel are well aware of this.


    Honestly, I have little idea of ​​the campaign of the 58 army, to / Israel / Jordan / Saudi Arabia, etc. But I must admit, according to the flight of thought, Taburetkin with his Mistrals was ahead of time.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 13 June 2013 11: 16
    0
    Quote: zvereok
    In vain you are so about the Austrians.

    I offer three options for explaining the behavior of Austria:
    1) The peacekeepers are corny "cheated"
    2) The leadership of Austria "did it"
    3) The withdrawal of the peacekeepers is carried out at the behest of Washington (And Austria again "did it")
    In general, the withdrawal of the contingent to the peak of the confrontation, when there is a likelihood of a NEW war (the consequences of which can be figured out), involving LARGE participants, is an incomprehensible and unprecedented step, however, and not going against the Western military tradition ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 13 June 2013 11: 26
      +5
      The fourth option: the forces that are in power in Austria were dealt with. The electorate is very sensitive to the deaths of its military, it is not known where and for what it is unknown, but I want to win the next election.
      1. Corsair
        Corsair 13 June 2013 11: 45
        0
        Quote: Spade
        The fourth option: the forces that are in power in Austria were dealt with. The electorate is very sensitive to the deaths of its military, it is not known where and for what it is unknown, but I want to win the next election.

        "Option four" is a derivative of "option two" of my commentary. The details set out in your commentary were omitted by me because I wanted to make the comment concise and short. And sometimes a certain understatement leads to a positive result, new options and views are born ...
        Sincerely yes
    2. Curculum
      Curculum 13 June 2013 21: 54
      +1
      Quote: Corsair
      I offer three options for explaining the behavior of Austria:
      1) The peacekeepers are corny "cheated"
      2) The leadership of Austria "did it"
      3) The withdrawal of the peacekeepers is carried out at the behest of Washington (And Austria again "did it")

      I propose the 4th: the withdrawal of peacekeepers (and not only the Austrians there) is carried out in connection with the planned active actions of a third party.
  • atalef
    atalef 14 June 2013 09: 43
    -1
    Quote: zvereok
    In vain you are so about the Austrians.

    AUSTRIANS DO NOTHING. EXCEPT HOW TO DIE FOR GOLDEN Syria
    Fiji is getting easier. The 1000rd rank and file of the United Nations ordinary forces is XNUMX bucks, the probability of death is minimal, not only is it not necessary to fight, but simply prohibited.
    NOT A BAD PENSION ADDITION.
  • goody
    goody 13 June 2013 10: 03
    +2
    If Russian peacekeepers appear there, this will be the beginning of a turning point in the situation in the BV.
  • Corsair
    Corsair 13 June 2013 10: 12
    +1
    Quote from the article:
    Head of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs. Alexei Pushkov on the same day noted that in the absence of UN peacekeepers in the region, things could even go to the war between Syria and Israel.

    But will the West artificially drag out the issue with the deployment of the contingent, with the aim of artificially
    the creation of Casus belli on the contact line of the Syrian army and the IDF?
    Who has any opinion?
  • Megavolt
    Megavolt 13 June 2013 10: 15
    +2
    But Barack Obama is increasingly inclined to begin to supply them with arms. The meetings will also consider the possibility of creating no-fly zones in Syria.

    Wouldn't it be better to supply Assad with the long-promised S-300s, and for one thing also Armor and Torahs ... So Jews and Americans would really be given “no-fly zones”.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 13 June 2013 10: 20
    +2
    <<< Israel itself is not against the deployment of Russian soldiers along its border with Syria. This was stated by the deputy head of the Israeli Ministry of Internal Affairs Faina Kirshenbaum, who arrived on a visit to Moscow. >>>
    Israel itself may not be against the deployment of Russian peacekeepers, but it’s unlikely that Uncle Sam and his NATO accomplices will be satisfied, and the final decision seems to depend on them! It is unlikely that they and the Saudi-Qatari monarchies will so easily abandon their plans for the crappy Syria, and Russian peacekeepers being there will greatly interfere with them!
  • Metlik
    Metlik 13 June 2013 10: 22
    +3
    I think the main issue for Israel is the occupation of the Golan. Israel announces annexation. But the mess in this area is planned large and it is not yet known how things will turn out. In this sense, the presence of Russian peacekeepers gives Jews such advantages:
    1. Russia indirectly recognizes the legitimacy of the Golan under Israeli rule.
    2. Peacekeepers will be held hostage if Syria or other forces try to return the Golan Heights.
    3. If Russia wants to deploy peacekeepers, there is the possibility of trade - for deliveries from 300, for example, so far Israel has nothing to offer Russia.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 12: 23
      0
      Russia had already recognized the presence of the Israelis in the Golan when, in the person of the USSR, it voted in the Security Council for an agreement on separation.
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 13 June 2013 20: 22
      -1
      Quote: Metlik
      gives Jews such advantages:

      Finally, a sober thought ....... hi
  • individual
    individual 13 June 2013 10: 25
    +2
    The first months of the confrontation between the authorities and the opposition in Syria, Jordan remained neutral, hoping that Assad will cope with the protests.
    But US military diplomacy has put King Abdullah II in the "nude" position and now 1000 Marines are going across Jordan to Syria to look for adventures on their * opu.
    Russia must help Syria turn US politics when their sounds "The carcass will turn into a mourning melody!"
  • _Forgiven_
    _Forgiven_ 13 June 2013 10: 28
    +3
    It would be great if Russian peacekeepers ended up in Syria. This would somehow calm the ardor of the bearded people paid by the states. It remains only to place the three hundred so that the "striped" ones pass the back
  • SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 13 June 2013 10: 34
    +1
    And our volunteers from Ukraine go to Syria and fight on the side of Assad, i.e. mercenaries, you have to earn some money somewhere, but he does a good job, and there are a million soldiers in Ukraine without work and normal life.
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 13 June 2013 10: 40
    +4
    The main thing is that American "peacekeepers" do not appear on the Golan Heights, they are like jackals all walking around, waiting for something. And if the Americans appear there, this will become the main point of instability in Syria and the weapons to the bandits will not flow like a stormy river like now, but it will gush like an ocean tide. And we will only have to "show concern" again.
  • Zeus
    Zeus 13 June 2013 10: 42
    +4
    Video on the topic.

  • Dimitry
    Dimitry 13 June 2013 10: 45
    0
    Quote: zvereok
    Quote: Demetrius
    , Putin makes it clear that we will not deliver C-300, if Russian peacekeepers enter the Golland, if not, then we will unload C-300 ashore, because everything has been prepared for a long time, only the go-ahead is needed.


    And that will be? There is a chance that war will begin. It is even more likely that the Syrian armed forces will destroy the Israelis, and Iran may not have time / not want to take decisive action. The second question, at the cost of what losses, but this is really the second question. Russia needs Syria to live.

    Israel is a country of excellent bluffs, serious measures are being taken only against the weak countries of the Middle East, yes there were raids on Syria, but these are injections and nothing more, Israel will never take a serious step against Syria, knowing that it is allies with Russia and Iran. played "both ours and yours," the United States, in fact, more and more often does not want to harness itself for such a smart-ass ally in the east who is trying to "catch fish in troubled waters" and more and more often stumbles upon snags.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 12: 24
      -5
      Hmm. A war against 8 countries at the same time is a war with a weak adversary. Good joke.
      1. Kirgudum
        Kirgudum 13 June 2013 15: 29
        +1
        You would also compare the boxer's fight against a pair of young teens, and do not care that there are 8 of them. Israel has the most powerful air force in the Middle East, is this not an argument?
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 13 June 2013 15: 37
          +2
          Actually, in fairness, in the 6-day war they fought more with us than with them
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 13 June 2013 16: 23
          -3
          It's funny You consider the armies, supplied first with England and France, and then with the USSR, a pair of young teenagers. Moreover, with a numerical advantage of several hundred million people.
        3. il grand casino
          il grand casino 13 June 2013 16: 59
          +2
          Quote: Kirgudum
          You would also compare the boxer's fight against a pair of young teens, and do not care that there are 8 of them. Israel has the most powerful air force in the Middle East, is this not an argument?


          You describe the current realities. In the 67th, for example, the IDF lost in technique, air force and quantitatively several times. And in other major wars the situation is similar.
          P.S. No one compares $ 1000 in the 60s today.
  • spirit
    spirit 13 June 2013 10: 47
    +4
    And what weapons will our peacekeepers have? Same as in Georgia? nothing heavy?
    No one touched the Austrians; they simply did not need them. But according to ours, I’m sure they will shoot every day, and not from Israel! The rebels will sin on the sire army, those on the rebels. And ours will die and nothing can be done about it.! That is, in advance, our hands will be tied. I'm not talking about the fact that all dogs will be hung on us (
    1. il grand casino
      il grand casino 13 June 2013 17: 00
      0
      As for weapons - everything will be much more modest there than in Ossetia
  • SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 13 June 2013 10: 47
    +4
    In Syria, in my opinion, it should not be repeated that in Libya, where American puppets, the same bandits, majahideen and mercenaries came to power. There is no country as such. Libya has now become the poorest and most uncertain country, the Americans have done what they want, they want to do the same with Syria, because for them it’s more expensive than democracy and natural resources and submission to themselves. Parasites damn, world society.
  • alexkross83
    alexkross83 13 June 2013 11: 04
    0
    No one doubts that the Russians will be there.
  • Naval
    Naval 13 June 2013 11: 09
    0
    If Russian peacekeepers are not allowed, why not send Belorussian or Ukrainian? All the same, peoples who are close in mentality to us.
    1. Day 11
      Day 11 13 June 2013 11: 14
      +1
      No, they won’t! They have a dumb interest there, and for the Opps they are the same Russian with all the consequences, we at least know what we risk!
      1. sashka
        sashka 13 June 2013 11: 22
        +1
        We have our own interest. What should we do there? We are pulling forces there, the Americans also decided not to let things go by themselves. We are S-300, they are two boats and 300 tomahawks .. If you want, you have to figure it out. Not good ..
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 13 June 2013 11: 27
          0
          Great Alexander! Here I am about the same. Neither we nor the Yankees do not want to fight each other (and will not). The only option is to "cut" Syria according to interests
          1. sashka
            sashka 13 June 2013 11: 32
            +2
            Sawing will not work under any pretext .. Priorities do not allow. Neither them nor us.
  • Abakanets
    Abakanets 13 June 2013 11: 34
    -3
    This is not our war, let the bearded cut each other.
  • faraon
    faraon 13 June 2013 11: 37
    0
    Quote: Vasya Ivanov
    Israel will find a way to prevent Russia from being present in the Golan. And if he lets our peacekeepers, only to discredit us. From the Jews we must wait for the trick.

    Dear Vasily, to Israel, who will be in the buffer zone in the buffer zone between Syria and Israel, but still a preference for the Russian contingent, because at this stage, this is the only guarantee of security in BV, which will not sit in bunkers, but will conduct work that will prevent those misunderstandings that may arise between Israel and Syria. Knowing not by hearsay about the structure of the Russian Federation. It will not allow any provocation on both sides. ., And if something happens, Russia has good relations with Israel, and Russia will be able to resolve this conflict with Syria (as the author of the article in some of the best said).
    The second group of Russian troops is already in Syria or on the way, so it’s a matter of time and a UN decision.
    What will Russia give: Being a member of the UN contingent in the buffer zone, it can solve all questions about the supply of weapons (S-300) to Assad since in this case, it will act as a guarantor of stability between the two countries.
    To prevent the penetration of terrorists and arms supplies into Syria as a peacekeeping mission.
    And finally, it will establish itself in the Middle East and on the world stage as a great power that contributes to peace and stability in the region.
    Believe me, it's worth it.
    1. sashka
      sashka 13 June 2013 11: 44
      +2
      Quote: faraon
      To prevent the penetration of terrorists and arms supplies into Syria as a peacekeeping mission.
      And finally, it will establish itself in the Middle East and on the world stage as a great power that contributes to peace and stability in the region.
      Believe me, it's worth it.

      We are just defending the South of Russia. And we need a base to defend from this area. Yusam also needs it, but against us. Here who will sit out or peremozhet .. Without bringing the matter to "showdown". What to do. Playing with fire..
    2. Day 11
      Day 11 13 June 2013 11: 45
      0
      Does "Bibi" think the same way as you?
      1. sashka
        sashka 13 June 2013 11: 54
        0
        Quote: Den 11
        Does "Bibi" think the same way as you?

        I do not know. But bibipi is not at all ... k He knows how to play chess. And the alignment makes you move .. And oddly enough not to rush. Time allows yet ..
        1. Day 11
          Day 11 13 June 2013 12: 02
          0
          Sanya, Bibi, the citizens of Israel call their prime minister. So I asked a friend from Israel
          1. sashka
            sashka 13 June 2013 12: 10
            0
            Quote: Den 11
            Sanya, Bibi, Israeli citizens call their prime minister.

            Well, the Air Force is written on the sides of our aircraft. but the BIBIS IS READING .. Stupid, right? I thought that Bibi is BB ..))
            1. Day 11
              Day 11 13 June 2013 12: 18
              0
              I got it, but I didn’t get it. How are you?
  • alpenstock
    alpenstock 13 June 2013 11: 43
    +1
    The detachment of the Amerpechs arrived ...
    So the main figures come out.
  • GP
    GP 13 June 2013 11: 56
    +3
    Quote: Demetrius
    Israel is a country of excellent bluffs, serious measures are being taken only against the weak countries of the Middle East, yes there were raids on Syria, but these are injections and nothing more, Israel will never take a serious step against Syria, knowing that it is allies with Russia and Iran. played "both ours and yours," the United States, in fact, more and more often does not want to harness itself for such a smart-ass ally in the east who is trying to "catch fish in troubled waters" and more and more often stumbles upon snags.


    There is such a thing. The Golan Heights is the territory of Syria occupied by Israel in the 60s during the so-called six day war. Annexed unilaterally. And at the moment, it can be directly attributed to the source of sluggish conflicts between Syria and Israel. While there is a terrorist intervention in Syria is not up to the solution of the issue with the Gollans. Should Russia get involved in this, in general, completely unnecessary mess for us and decide for Syria? Anti-terror is one thing, border conflicts of another state are another. Not domestic, as with Georgia until 08,08,08, namely border ones. You can understand the Israelis who want to control the strategic heights and exclude shelling of settlements and bases, but the Syrians in their right to return the historic land. No matter how the Syrians began to use this conflict in the future to reconcile society, on the anti-Israeli wave, and Russia did not find itself between two fires - it did not spoil relations with both states, alas, the human memory is short.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 20
      -5
      This historical land under the Syrian protectorate was less than under Israeli - you do not know?
  • cartridge
    cartridge 13 June 2013 11: 59
    +5
    The deployment of our military contingent in the Golan, at least, will provide strong moral support to Assad’s troops, as well as deprive the militants of the opportunity to receive food and assistance from Israel in this area.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 22
      -3
      You don’t tell Israel to fuel terrorists, one of the tasks of which is to destroy it. Have Al Qaeda leaders made statements about Israel? Or SSA?
  • faraon
    faraon 13 June 2013 12: 00
    -5
    Quote: Demetrius
    The West, with its allies, is trying to squeeze out the entire peacekeeping contingent from the Golan Heights, with the aim of creating a safe zone specifically for sheltering extremists in these territories (essentially Syrian), and Israel will act as a feed for weapons and food. Therefore, periodic shelling of peacekeepers is underway.

    What nonsense are you talking dear? Israel is on the neutral side in this conflict. Believe that it is better for Israel to deal with Assad since he is the legitimate president of Syria, which is subject to international laws that he must comply with than a group of mercenaries, bandits and terrorists with whom Israel is mercilessly fighting, because. they threaten the security of the state. What terrorist shelters are you talking about.? and what kind of weapons and food replenishment are you talking about. Amer delivers all this through Turkey. (see Anna TV reports) Israel has experience transferring weapons to the Palestinian Authority, which is now used by all possible terrorist groups. The second time this will not happen.
    As for the peacekeeping contingent, for Israel it is preferable that it be a peacekeeping contingent from Russia since at this stage, he alone is able to fulfill the mission entrusted to the UN.
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 13 June 2013 14: 22
      -5
      I do not agree, no better. Both are bad.
    2. Dimitry
      Dimitry 13 June 2013 14: 26
      +3
      Pharaoh calm down your country has long been supplying militants with weapons, and provides them with medical assistance.
      Several artillery shells and mines exploded near the Ziuani camp of the UN peacekeeping contingent and at the peacekeepers' observation post located near the Quneitra border checkpoint. Two mines went off in Israel.

      Shrapnel wounds received one peacemaker. The command of the Israeli army declared the entire border area with the villages of Meru Golan and Ein Zivan a closed zone. The intensity of hostilities forced Austria to refuse to participate in a peacekeeping mission in the Golan Heights and announce the withdrawal of its soldiers from the area.

      By noon, the Syrian army knocked out militants from the border checkpoint and freed most of the quarters of Kuneitra. The fighting in the city continued until the evening. Most of the SSA and Islamist gangs retreated to the south - to the area of ​​the village of Al-Kakhtaniya and to the central part of the demilitarized zone. As usual, militants burned the bodies of foreign mercenaries along the way of their retreat.

      Israel took an active part in helping the Islamists. More than 20 wounded militants were transported to the territory of the neighboring state. Several ambulances left the border zone deep into Israeli territory. Some of the wounded were sent to the Rivka Ziv hospital in Safed.

      Despite the official ban of the Israeli command, at an altitude near Ein Zivan, Israeli citizens and representatives of the press gathered to watch the battle in the Kuneitra region.



      View of Kuneitra from the Golan Heights (photo: flash90.com/ Sh. Levy)

      Quote: faraon
      Quote: Demetrius
      The West, with its allies, is trying to squeeze out the entire peacekeeping contingent from the Golan Heights, with the aim of creating a safe zone specifically for sheltering extremists in these territories (essentially Syrian), and Israel will act as a feed for weapons and food. Therefore, periodic shelling of peacekeepers is underway.

      What nonsense are you talking dear? Israel is on the neutral side in this conflict. Believe that it is better for Israel to deal with Assad since he is the legitimate president of Syria, which is subject to international laws that he must comply with than a group of mercenaries, bandits and terrorists with whom Israel is mercilessly fighting, because. they threaten the security of the state. What terrorist shelters are you talking about.? and what kind of weapons and food replenishment are you talking about. Amer delivers all this through Turkey. (see Anna TV reports) Israel has experience transferring weapons to the Palestinian Authority, which is now used by all possible terrorist groups. The second time this will not happen.
      As for the peacekeeping contingent, for Israel it is preferable that it be a peacekeeping contingent from Russia since at this stage, he alone is able to fulfill the mission entrusted to the UN.
  • Glory to Russia.
    Glory to Russia. 13 June 2013 12: 15
    +3
    I sincerely thank Scoun for a very interesting and informative video about "Chabad Lubavitch"

    Concerning the issues of sending our military to Syria, I express my support and understanding. It is better to begin to defend our homeland Russia on distant approaches.
    Itself would go, but alas not serving. A mercenary is difficult to get. I am for Assad.
  • Micex
    Micex 13 June 2013 12: 21
    +2
    For the Russian Federation, the introduction of a peacekeeping contingent will be a strategic mistake. Bearded Mujahideen are unlikely to attack the Russian peacekeepers, and, accordingly, the Russian Federation will have no formal reason to intervene in the situation inside Syria. However, if the Western coalition attacks Syria, the Russian Federation will not be able to intervene, since its peacekeepers maintain peace in the Golan Heights and the internal situation in Syria formally does not affect it. It’s better that anyone guards the heights, and our troops sit on the BDK or somewhere else and serve as a pacifier for the alleged aggression.
  • OlegYugan
    OlegYugan 13 June 2013 12: 28
    0
    Yes, the game starts, Well, it’s just breathtaking, but seriously, Skarte right - Something very cunning here. Although Israel cannot be called an open enemy, the language does not turn around; there, the Russian Jews are like dirt. Well, with the Syrian troops, everything is clear. Good luck to our Children - The matter will not be simple but necessary.
  • OlegYugan
    OlegYugan 13 June 2013 12: 35
    +6
    Gentlemen, calm down already. Syrian Gollan is prada - but understand the Jews and the Gollan all of Israel at a glance, who owns the gollans that owns Israel.