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"UAVs will help us act in any country of the world very quickly"

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"UAVs will help us act in any country of the world very quickly"The US has produced a new generation of flying combat robots with weaponscapable of independent action. France buys American UAVs. Brigadier General of the French Air Force Jean-Vansen Brisset told the Voice of Russia about the advantages of the new drones and explained for what purposes his country is going to use them.


France decided to purchase unmanned aerial vehicles from the Predator family (Predator) from the Americans. With the creation of a new generation of drone type UAVs, the Americans opened a new era. These aircraft are able to remain in the air indefinitely for a long time, carrying out refueling at stratospheric altitudes. The absence of a person in the cabin also allows such aerobatic maneuvers with supercritical angles of attack that are simply inaccessible to a creature of flesh and blood. The speed of decision making also increases, since, if the device is working offline, the transition to action takes place in seconds after the detection and identification of the target.

True, Pakistan mourns the numerous victims of combat winged robots, who, instead of destroying the columns of terrorists, dispassionately shot peaceful dekhan.

On the other hand, the autonomous mode allows you not to lose valuable equipment, as in the case of loss of control by the operator, the UAV is not only able to continue working on targets or aerial photography, but also to return home independently. The new generation of American drone has an unsurpassed 12 range of thousands of kilometers.

It seems that today France has decided to pay very close attention to the production of UAVs, as it used to lag significantly behind in this area.

French Air Force Brigadier General, Jean-Vincent Brisset, employee of the Institute of International and Strategic Problems of the General Staff of France. In the past, a military pilot himself and a graduate of the French Top Gan, he is exclusively engaged in military aviation. Here is what he said to the Voice of Russia:

“The drones that we decided to buy from the Americans are not combat vehicles, but apparatuses intended for the needs of military intelligence. They are able to fly at medium altitude, remaining as long as possible in the air (minimum 36 hours), but no weapons are installed on their platform. France has never had a UAV before. At the moment we are going to set up their release together with the British and Germans.

- In the area of ​​possible joint production of UAVs, France is in contact with the IAI Israeli aircraft builder. What are your thoughts on the new American generation of FX series drones? These devices have an extremely wide radius of action, reaching 12 thousands of km, and they carry weapons on board.

- In the field of cooperation with IAI, dots over i have been put for a long time: after all, Dassault, which produces the French Mirages and Rafali, was about to consider the joint French-Israeli production of the Heron UAV, which in some ways compete with USA. But our prototype was less powerful and a bit obsolete. Well, and besides, we were not yet ready for serial production, while today we are in dire need of such a technique.

As far as the American FX series is concerned ... Yes, this is our future in order to be able to act in any country in the world very quickly and over long distances. The French army has no such machines yet.

France clearly needs a UAV to monitor the deserted spaces in North Africa, and it is possible that specifically in Mali. And to put or not to put a combat suspension on the wing is often decided by one mechanic for one hour.
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  1. igor36
    igor36 23 May 2013 09: 50 New
    +6
    And Russia urgently needs to catch up, as well as develop countermeasures, jamming and control interception technologies.
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 23 May 2013 10: 58 New
      +4
      Quote: igor36
      And Russia urgently needs to catch up, as well as develop countermeasures, jamming and control interception technologies.


      Asymmetrically. You just need to make a more compact mobile anti-aircraft complex, work on reducing its cost, on mass, you need to increase its characteristics. And to make the complex robotic - as soon as a drone got into the coverage area, it was immediately shot down automatically.
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 23 May 2013 17: 07 New
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        And to make the complex robotic - as soon as a drone got into the coverage area, it was immediately shot down automatically. and at the same time wandering - wandered into the territory of a neighboring country and let's wet everyone who is in the air (do not turn off "friend or foe" here) Ammunition replenishment is problematic. And the idea to throw the designers, you look, and it will work.
  2. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 23 May 2013 10: 01 New
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    Fuck yourself! So they will soon fly over Russia like crows.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 23 May 2013 10: 19 New
      +6
      It looks like a transition from bows to a firearm. In order to prepare a pilot, you need to raise a child, educate him, draft him in the army, one of a dozen of them will be able to become a pilot, then training and death are admissible in battle. UAVs have a week to assemble, a week to extract and process resources for production, and one of the 3-4 draftees with normal brains to press buttons and reaction, up to the disabled. Plus the chances that this fighter will die in battle at times less, and he will be capable of longer than the pilot.
      1. Gato
        Gato 23 May 2013 15: 35 New
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        And besides, pilot training is a continuous process and VERY expensive. 4-5 years old pilot must be trained at the school, then about the same in the combat unit, until he becomes an experienced fighter (and these are the trains of kerosene, the day of the resource, infrastructure, etc., etc.). And it’s time for the pilot to retire - and all in a new circle. And no one will guarantee that at the right time you will have the necessary number of pilots, technicians, and serviceable aircraft ready for battle.
        And drones can be stamped in huge quantities (the more - the cheaper they are in production), stored for decades, from time to time loading new software into their brains, well, adding new models. The presence of trained operators for them, in principle, is not necessary, it is enough to continuously improve the program model of behavior (I wrote and thought: b..b, some kind of Skynet turns out :))
        The result is a strange picture: a war can turn into a stupid computer game in which a person, at best, does not participate at all, but most likely appears as "victims among the local population." Moral qualities, combat mastery of the troops no longer matter - the one who has more “iron” and who is “smarter” wins.
        IMHO, the whole logic of the development of military equipment follows exactly this scenario and the West likes it very much.

        Can we come up with an asymmetric answer, or at least keep up?
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 23 May 2013 17: 08 New
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        ... and there will be no one to interrogate, if anything.
  3. demon ada
    demon ada 23 May 2013 10: 09 New
    +3
    need to develop unmanned aerial vehicles unmanned aerial vehicle hunters
  4. RUSmen
    RUSmen 23 May 2013 10: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: igor36
    And Russia urgently needs to catch up, as well as develop countermeasures, jamming and control interception technologies.

    Amer just more PR their UAVs to sell for more, I do not see much need for these devices. I don’t see the tactical and technical advantage over airplanes, only one thing is good = they will bring down and there is no person there. Notice they demonstrate them where there is nothing to bring down or intercept them with (Iraq, Libya, etc.), this is how adult uncles won basketball in kindergarten.
    1. zvereok
      zvereok 23 May 2013 10: 29 New
      +4
      There were plenty of MANPADS in Libya and Iraq. And to open the missile systems with drones is generally a nice thing, if they keep silent the air defense, then the infrastructure will be bombed. If you do not keep silent, they will be bombed by air defense. Changing 10 drones to 1 aircraft is also interesting for any country - at the same price, but the pilot still needs to be trained. And the capabilities of these devices are not fully disclosed, and the ability of pilots to withstand overloads is already at the limit.

      By the way, for America, which prints money, I think 15 drones are not afraid to lose on an 1 plane. Another thing is that such a number of drones will not fit on aircraft carriers. Apparently this is where they can and where you can not shove their base.
    2. ed65b
      ed65b 23 May 2013 15: 46 New
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      100% accurate. equipment for flights over Africa.
    3. VAF
      VAF 23 May 2013 17: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: RUSmen
      I do not see much need for these devices.


      Well ... in this case, it remains only .. to sympathize with you fool What more can be said....

      On May 22, the MQ-4C Triton high-altitude unmanned aerial vehicle made its first flight from the Northrop Grumman factory airfield in Palmdale, the company said in a press release.

      Triton is designed specifically for reconnaissance and surveillance for more than 24 hours at an altitude of more than 10 miles and at a range of more than 2 thousand nautical miles. A modern set of equipment can detect and automatically classify various types of ships.

      The flight of the MQ-4C under the control of the test team of the US Navy and the company Northrop Grumman Triton began at 7.10 in the morning and lasted 1,5 hours.

      Northrop Grumman is the main contractor for the US Navy's MQ-4C Triton BAMS (Broad Area Maritime Surveillance) program.

      Additional flight tests will be held in Palmdale, then at the end of this year the device will be transferred to the main flight test complex at Patuxent River Air Station (Maryland).

      A contract for the development and construction of two test apparatus was issued to Northrop Grumman in 2008.

      The US Navy plans to purchase 68 Triton UAVs.

      The Triton UAV has a wingspan of 130,9 feet, which is larger than that of the widespread Boeing 737 commercial aircraft. Thanks to its economical engine and other aerodynamic design features, the Triton can fly 11500 miles without refueling.

      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 23 May 2013 18: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: vaf
        Well ... in this case, it remains only .. to sympathize with you what else can be said ....

        Wow, Sergey! Here recently the infa was Su-25 will be controlled by drones, what is the best way to control an operator or pilot a pilot?
        1. VAF
          VAF 23 May 2013 21: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: krokodil25
          Here recently infa was a Su-25


          Hi Gene! This "infa" from the series ...... yesterday Sturmovik famously spoke out .... "as you read here are fellow news, so you feel yourself .. idiot "! good

          Who could have come up with this? Su -25th, having no avionics (practically) having a flight range of only 500 miles. but at the same time manage also the Drone .... yes ..... "cheese of the Andes, this is ... fantastic"! wassat

          well, seriously, of course, the operator, it doesn’t matter where he "sits" on the A-50 or Il20-38, even the Su-34th can be for these purposes .. "adapted", but not a single-seat aircraft! +! drinks

          This is just the case ... "when the third is not at all superfluous! drinks

  5. ovgorskiy
    ovgorskiy 23 May 2013 10: 26 New
    +1
    If only we had a couple of hundred, put on them the tracking equipment for the submarines, radars, video cameras, and let them fly on the perch, to watch what our "partners" were doing there. And run along our land borders, all of our border guards help. And all this in 24 \ 7 \ 365 mode.
  6. valokordin
    valokordin 23 May 2013 10: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: RUSmen
    Amer just more PR their UAVs to sell for more, I do not see much need for these devices. I don’t see the tactical and technical advantage over airplanes, only one thing is good = they will bring down and there is no person there. Notice they demonstrate them where there is nothing to bring down or intercept them with (Iraq, Libya, etc.), this is how adult uncles won basketball in kindergarten.

    Perhaps, but science does not stand still, in the end, everything goes to the beginning of contactless wars.
  7. zvereok
    zvereok 23 May 2013 10: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: ovgorskiy
    If only we had a couple of hundred, put on them the tracking equipment for the submarines, radars, video cameras, and let them fly on the perch, to watch what our "partners" were doing there. And run along our land borders, all of our border guards help. And all this in 24 \ 7 \ 365 mode.


    It’s also some profits - energy prices will jump five times in price. And the scientific potential will grow, since it will immediately become clear that an internal combustion engine for such a number of flights is an unacceptable luxury for everyone except the owners of the printing press.
  8. USNik
    USNik 23 May 2013 10: 36 New
    +2
    These aircraft are able to remain in the air for an unlimited time, refueling at stratospheric heights.

    Yeah, and the French tankers also bought the UAV? And what kind of screw drones can spar in the stratosphere?
    The absence of a person in the cockpit also allows for such aerobatics with supercritical angles of attack that are simply inaccessible to creatures from flesh and blood.

    Aerobatics with "supercritical angles of attack" performed by the "Predator family" in the studio!
    In general, there is nothing to drive blacks in the desert, but Rafal dear and Mirages all broke ...
    France clearly needs an UAV to observe uninhabited spaces in North Africa and it is possible that specifically in Mali.
  9. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 23 May 2013 10: 55 New
    +3
    It is time to already understand that we must not catch up with the United States in the field of drones, but build our own using all the experience gained in domestic aviation and programming. As soon as we embark on the path to catch up, then consider that we will do this all the time.
  10. Bort radist
    Bort radist 23 May 2013 11: 00 New
    +2
    It reminds me of network marketing: it’s breathtaking from the perspectives, and you’ll think about who to bet!
  11. bubla5
    bubla5 23 May 2013 11: 10 New
    +1
    While drones will be controlled from the ground, their advantage is easily disputed, but when there are natural robots on board that will make decisions themselves, then this is a terrible weapon, but at this stage it’s just an advertising move by companies such as lockheeds for the total sale of UAVs
    1. No_more
      No_more 23 May 2013 12: 38 New
      -1
      Nobody will do that. Acceptance of discovery for a specific purpose is always up to the individual.
      Even if it slows down the speed of hitting targets, which is very critical, only for air defense.
  12. Strashila
    Strashila 23 May 2013 12: 24 New
    0
    “France clearly needs UAVs to observe uninhabited spaces in North Africa” ... and Russia has uninhabited spaces in the northern regions and the Arctic.
  13. nod739
    nod739 23 May 2013 12: 25 New
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    I remember even in Iran they seized control and planted a drone

    and about the range of 12 thousand something, I doubt that they will start from the Edwards base to see the situation somewhere in Libya or Syria?
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 23 May 2013 14: 19 New
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      You read inattentively, planes fly offline, without operators, and can refuel in the air. hence such a range
      1. the polar
        the polar 23 May 2013 16: 30 New
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        Quote: vladsolo56
        You read inattentively, planes fly offline, without operators, and can refuel in the air. hence such a range

        let them show a video about UAV refueling in the air
        1. Army strong
          Army strong 23 May 2013 23: 49 New
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          Quote: Polar
          UAV refueling in the air

          2007 RQ-4 Global Hawk test.
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  14. individual
    individual 23 May 2013 12: 46 New
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    Do radars see them?
    And isn’t it time to put a “net” for their capture and disposal.
    And then these cosmopolitans in our sky can interfere with the crane.
  15. ed65b
    ed65b 23 May 2013 15: 51 New
    +1
    Damn, I honestly got tired of reading scarecrows about drones. Crap for war with 3 countries of the world and banana republics. And we all have a pterodactyl, it's time to give up, because we have none. Did the Georgians help their drones? And the fat-ass operator in America is generally ... fucked up or not. And how will he write out aerobatics while leaving the same anti-aircraft missile.
    He refuel in the stratosphere and who the tanker will lift there also a drone.
    Or are there examples when drones won an air battle? No, and never will be. because BIT. But to fly and shoot at people when there is no one in the air and you are the only king, you can ponte and show off Pteradactyl woodpecker falcon.
    1. the polar
      the polar 23 May 2013 17: 12 New
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      Damn, I honestly got tired of reading scarecrows about drones. Crap for war with 3 countries of the world and banana republics. And we all have a pterodactyl, it's time to give up, because we have none. Did the Georgians help their drones? And the fat-ass operator in America is generally ... fucked up or not. And how will he write out aerobatics while leaving the same anti-aircraft missile.
      He refuel in the stratosphere and who the tanker will lift there also a drone.
      Or are there examples when drones won an air battle? No, and never will be. because BIT. But to fly and shoot at people when there is no one in the air and you are the only king, you can ponte and show off Pteradactyl woodpecker falcon.

      Here's a sober, albeit emotional, assessment of the UAV.

      To evaluate the UAV, you need to understand the logic of its appearance, which made the Anglo-Saxons take up the development of UAVs, having over 12000 aircraft combined with NATO.

      The whole problem is in the psychological factor. The USA Army command is completely unsure that the morale of the overseas and European warriors will allow them to defeat a more serious opponent in the future. This is evidenced by the results of the Vietnamese, Iraqi and Afghan wars. And the accompanying them is a very large percentage of neuropsychiatric diseases, after demobilization from the army. A large and ever-growing number of mentally disabled people, the treatment and maintenance of which is significantly burdensome the budget and spoils the political image of the authorities.
      Neither the United States nor Europe will be able to return to universal military service. This, i.e. the shortage of human resources ready to shed blood for a high payment, give their lives and risk being left disabled, gave rise to a "theory of contactless wars."
      As a type of weapon, UAVs will never bring either strategic or tactical superiority, and will not surpass the classic Air Force with pilots on board. To strike over 12000 km, there are strategic aviation, ICBMs and submarines.
      The tasks of round-the-clock monitoring and reconnaissance are successfully handled by satellite space reconnaissance and early warning systems. So there is no point in making "strike UAVs" that could strike an enemy for several thousand kilometers. Cruise missiles do a great job of this, much cheaper and more reliable in terms of destroying the enemy. Well, in the end, no matter how many UAVs fly, no matter how much they “strike”, but victory over the enemy consists in destroying his manpower and taking control of his territory. So, no matter how many UAV bombs are, hatching for thousands of kilometers, you still have to climb out of hiding and go on foot to enemy territory. That's where the final answer about the effectiveness of the "contactless war" will be received.
      1. Gato
        Gato 23 May 2013 21: 32 New
        +1
        A little over a hundred years ago, about the same tone was written about aviation.
        Many military aircraft were recognized as completely hopeless for military affairs, except perhaps for reconnaissance. Indeed, they say, look at the latest "Dreadnought" - and such a kind of plywood-linen misfortune, rattling constantly with a dying motor and barely able to rise into the air.
      2. kostiknet
        kostiknet 24 May 2013 12: 36 New
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        I don’t remember who said: The territory is only then considered captured when the eggs of an infantryman dangle over it. As a substitute for fighter jets, UAVs may have a prospect (all the same, maneuverability will be limited only by the performance characteristics of the aircraft, and the pilot’s overload will not affect combat efficiency. For lack thereof.) In wars against the Papuans with territory that is not needed (as captured) the same "ride", but the war with these "rattles" can not win and land can not be captured.
        1. Gato
          Gato 24 May 2013 14: 45 New
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          You are certainly right if the goal of the war is to take territory. But it seems to me that both now and in the future, wars will be fought to force the enemy to do something (well, or not to do something). You don’t have to go far for examples - Yugoslavia, 08.08.08, although in the latter case the role of aviation was rather modest.
  16. Army strong
    Army strong 23 May 2013 23: 52 New
    +1
    Quote: Polar
    Quote: vladsolo56
    You read inattentively, planes fly offline, without operators, and can refuel in the air. hence such a range

    let them show a video about UAV refueling in the air

    Here is a picture of something that did not load right away. 2007 RQ-4 Global Hawk test.
  17. Army strong
    Army strong 23 May 2013 23: 57 New
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    Quote: Polar
    Quote: vladsolo56
    You read inattentively, planes fly offline, without operators, and can refuel in the air. hence such a range

    let them show a video about UAV refueling in the air


    And here is the video:



    KQ-X Global Hawk First High Altitude Wake Survey Flight
  18. Sochi
    Sochi 24 May 2013 12: 16 New
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    Nui meaning? It will be destroyed like any other aircraft ... As I understand it, as long as the drone can be held in its hands it makes sense, it is very difficult to pinpoint it, even harder to shoot down. Amerian gigantomania ... so show off they are show off.
    1. kostiknet
      kostiknet 24 May 2013 12: 23 New
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      Quote: Sochi
      Nui meaning? It will be destroyed like any other aircraft ...

      It’s they who protect the pilots, the pilot’s death is an expensive little thing (didn’t try to express condolences and pay a pension to the relatives of the “dead computer”?), And the drones were also insured for a considerable amount (if there was an opportunity - they would beat them and fuck the dough lol )
      1. Sochi
        Sochi 24 May 2013 12: 56 New
        +1
        Yes, to fight and bear losses ... certainly not acceptable for amers. For them, if the crew suffered losses of more than 15%, then it is necessary to bring them to rest and rehabilitation, in any case, this was the case with fliers on aircraft carriers in Vietnam. And so it seems that the first gamers have grown to the generals and continue to fight in the DUM ...