Israel began preparations for Western intervention in Syria

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Once again, Syria has been subjected to a blatant act of aggression by the Israeli air force. At this time, the scale of the Israeli air strikes were much larger than in winter. After the air raid, which occurred on Thursday night and the goal of which were the Iranian missiles Fateh-110, allegedly destined to Hezbollah, followed by a series of air strikes, the logic of which can not be explained by Israel’s antiterrorist position.

In addition to the CERS research center near Damascus, dozens of targets were subjected to rocket fire. Total about 43. Strangely enough, they included the headquarters of the 4 division of the Syrian army, the barracks of the 104 and 105 brigades of the Republican Guard, as well as SCUD-type underground ballistic bunkers, military stores of artillery and other ammunition.

Israel began preparations for Western intervention in Syria


The blows either to the warehouses or to the column with the Fateh-110 missiles can be explained by the unwillingness of the Israeli leadership to see weapon at his Lebanese enemy. These missiles are very perfect and have a range of up to 300 km, despite the fact that they are perhaps the most accurate of the Iranian rocket fleet nomenclature. Their accuracy allows you to strike even individual structures. Perhaps it was this fact that alerted the Israelis. Therefore, it is likely that Syria did not even think of transferring these missiles to the Lebanese group, but planned to use them independently to deter from external aggression, including Israel.

The attacks on the research CERS can also be explained by the reluctance of the Syrian neighbor to have such a weighty deterrent factor as a new chemical and biological weapon under its nose. But even here there are many oddities, because Syria already has a large number of warfare agents and means of delivering it to the enemy’s territory. Even more strange looks the Israeli Air Force strikes the barracks of the Syrian army. Even the excuse that Iranian military advisers were stationed at the base of the 104 Brigade in Wadi Bard could not give a clear reason for what happened. It is the 4-division of Brother Assad and the Syrian Republican Guard that are the main opponents of the "rebels".



It is known that during Israeli air strikes, terrorists called "rebels" tried to break into Damascus. The militants launched an attack on the checkpoints of the Syrian army in the metropolitan area of ​​Mezze. This is not the first such coincidence of Israeli actions. aviation and supposedly hostile to Israel militants of the SSA and radical terrorist groups. In January of this year, the Israeli attack on CERS surprisingly coincided with an attempt by terrorists to seize this facility. Visible here is the attack on warehouses with artillery weapons and ballistic missiles, which for decades have been armed with Syria. Apparently, therefore, the opinion appeared that Israel was trying to show the "rebels" that they had not been abandoned, and also to help them capture the impregnable capital, and even that such massive strikes were connected with direct preparation for the invasion of the West, including and Israel on the side of the "rebels."



According to various sources, from 4 to 300 people died. In the attacks took part to 18 aircraft. If, after a single strike, the likelihood that Syria will respond with rocket volleys was very small, then after such an aggression, the government of the SAR was forced to show its unwillingness to tolerate this. This is confirmed by the deployment of PU ballistic missiles aimed at Israel, and an order to attack immediately if Israel tries to repeat such attacks.

Often there are questions about the inaction of air defense, including and Russian. Most of the Syrian air defense is represented by obsolete samples, which are screwed up in the West. Even despite the modernization, they can only counteract external threats in large numbers. Yes, there are many similar complexes near Damascus, and, in total, almost the densest air defense force is concentrated in the entire Middle East. However, as it became known, strikes were delivered from Lebanese airspace. The range of the Syrian air defense systems allows you to destroy targets outside the Syrian airspace, including and over part of the territory of Lebanon, however, the range of Israeli air-to-ground missiles makes it possible not to enter the danger zone. In addition, the pilots of the Israeli Air Force have mastered the escape from fire at ultra-low altitudes with a very effective electronic suppression of outdated enemy air defense systems. Of course, even with all this, in order to fly directly over Damascus, fire suppression of anti-aircraft defense will still be required. Against this background, eyewitness accounts that they directly saw Israeli planes look very strange.



There are not many Russian complexes in Syria and not all of them are deployed. Russia could greatly help with the latest modifications of C-300 (PMU-1, PMU-2) and Thor M2E, which could cover the most important objects and intercept missiles fired from Lebanese airspace. For the protection of the same CERS, apparently, the Osa short-range air defense system was used earlier, which was able to protect the object from missile strikes, while other complexes concentrated around Damascus (C-75, C-125, Cube, C -200), are not able to destroy targets with such a small EPR at large distances. To do this, they must be located in close proximity to the target. That is why one of the videos shows exactly the burnt “Wasp”.

However, Damascus is so far limited only to loud threats to unleash a war with Israel. It is unlikely that a missile response will follow this time. The Israeli authorities have not yet commented on the actions of their air force. It is clear that Syria will not endure more like this and, in the event of repeated aggression, it will have to respond with a series of rocket attacks on Israeli military targets, although it does not want to do that. Indeed, this time Israel began to openly support the Syrian militants and prepare the ground for a safer joint land invasion together with NATO and LAS, destroying Syria’s ground and rocket forces directly. Realizing the hopelessness of the “revolutionaries” position, the West will clearly not leave Syria alone and, most likely, will take more aggressive steps, including intervention under several pretexts, most likely even at the same time as a full-scale invasion of Iran. Israel is not the first time demonstrating a frankly anti-Assad stance during the “civil war”.

From the very beginning of the show called “The Arab Spring” it was clear that the West had terrorists — enemies and terrorists — revolutionaries. Unfortunately, some people still tend to harbor illusions of "Israeli neutrality." Artillery shelling and tanks the Syrian army’s position in the Golan in response to mortar shells by terrorist groups, the supply of weapons to the SSA and its allies - all this is evidence of Israel’s support for the “Syrian opposition”.



Already on 6 in May, it became known that in the Persian Gulf region, full-scale exercises of 41 countries began, including and the US Navy, which will run until 30 May. They will work out the tactics of unblocking the Strait of Hormuz and escorting merchant ships and oil tankers.



The desire of the rulers to kill at once “two birds with one stone” and finally redistribute the spheres of influence in the Middle East to their own advantage turned out to be much stronger than the interests of ordinary citizens in Western countries who do not want to continue to pay for killing hundreds of thousands of people from their own pockets.
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  1. +92
    8 May 2013 08: 19
    Jews are completely overgrown
    1. +56
      8 May 2013 08: 25
      Quote: Clever man
      Jews are completely overgrown
      I have nothing against the Jews as a people, but their government is overwhelmed. There, if hostilities begin with Syria, then Iran will catch up, Libya, and the Gaza Strip will do a lot. The Americans lead Israel into the grave slowly but systematically. But die not the government, namely the reservists.
      1. Vasya Ivanov
        +57
        8 May 2013 08: 44
        I am skeptical of the prediction, but I remember when the mess started in Libya, I read the prophecy of my grandmother Vanga. She said that the 3rd world will begin when Syria falls. And the Jews are drawn into the war of all, the war will be in the region of Turkey and America, Europe, China, Russia will catch up. In short, the batch will be global and no one will be left aside. Campaign grandmother was right.
        1. +73
          8 May 2013 08: 53
          Yes, here the local "wangs" with Israeli flags were yelling a week ago that Israel would never and for nothing participate in an attack on Syria. That the poor, crying Zionists are just defending themselves against terrorists ...
          And where are these characters and how now to call them Israel except as fascists ..
          1. Vasya Ivanov
            +29
            8 May 2013 09: 03
            There are still people who believe the Hebrew. Pay attention they are the most weeping nation.
            1. +20
              8 May 2013 09: 30
              Jews are different, like other nations. For me, Jews are Commissioner Fomin from the Brest Fortress and directed by Lioznova.
              1. GEO
                GEO
                +4
                8 May 2013 17: 00
                An exception only confirms the rule. A decent Jewish man is an exception to the rule. There are very few of them. in addition to the above, I would like to name the actor Valentin Gaft (by the way, he was baptized and married to the daughter of an Orthodox priest)
                1. +8
                  8 May 2013 20: 32
                  Quote: GEO
                  There are very few of them. in addition to the above, I would like to name the actor Valentin Gaft (by the way, he was baptized and married to the daughter of an Orthodox priest)

                  Jews are now not an ethnically homogeneous nation. The term "Jew" rather refers to the definition of a religion. Like the Orthodox, for example, not necessarily Russian or Greek, but Catholic, not necessarily Italian.
                  1. -3
                    8 May 2013 21: 14
                    Quote: Nick
                    Like the Orthodox, for example, it’s not necessarily Russian or Greek, but a Catholic, not necessarily Italian.
                    and Orthodox Berezovsky is not necessarily a Jew wassat
          2. +8
            8 May 2013 12: 55
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            And where are these characters and how now to call them Israel except as fascists.

            Do not condemn these "misguided personnel" severely.
            They may sincerely believed in this and here bang-bang-fuck-ti-be-dah and each of them has a heart in TREES, and even moral torment can be completely silent.
            I think, taking into account the "Easter greetings", that on May 9 we will also hear and possibly see the congratulations of the children of Israel addressed to the people of Syria.
            Further, there everything begins to curl into a tight spiral of international intervention. At the forefront will be Israel's vokurat offspring and Turkish scumbags.
            I don’t want on such an omen a sad day.
            Therefore, all-all-all with the 68th anniversary of the great victory !!!!
            We started exactly in such a bewildered-ragged look and ended in a miraculous heroic!
            1. TUMAN
              +10
              8 May 2013 13: 39
              Quote: Papakiko
              Therefore, all-all-all with the 68th anniversary of the great victory !!!!

              I join in the congratulation! All on the occasion of the Great Victory! But no matter how sad it is to recognize the anniversary of the victory over fascism, gunpowder smelled again. This time, the world excites Zionism. I hope the time will come, and in the world there will be no .... isms!
          3. Chavy
            +24
            8 May 2013 13: 11
            Local Israelis from the forum just pass on. propaganda to them. Goebbels which is spread in Israel, as analysts they are completely useless. Their goal is to enclose and protect Israel in every possible way, for which they are paid money. But Israel so far sponsors terrorists wherever possible, and undermines the sovereignty of many countries.

            They remind me of the Judenrat under the Gestapo. They process their own there with the same propaganda, and in all popular forums.
          4. +4
            8 May 2013 17: 13
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            That poor, ever-crying Zionists only protect themselves from terrorists ...


            I remember the same grater terli amer Wangda attacked Afghanistan ...
          5. +2
            11 May 2013 18: 11
            Yes, they are worse than the Nazis, earn money on the Holocaust. Hiding behind the one who is stronger from those who are weaker. The Israeli authorities are thinking of a savior, but they will protect them, and let them think. To be honest, I will not greatly grieve if the Syrians launch their missiles, and Putin will give some new air defense systems. A kind of fix idea to help Syria and look at the complexes in action, watching how Israeli planes are served.
          6. sergaivenski
            +2
            11 May 2013 20: 29
            Serge Aivensky; In the Middle East everyone is talking about peace, but no one (!) Protects it !!!
            And the matter is not in the Jews at all !!! Iran, Saudi Arabia and other Arab states have their own interests there !!!
        2. +16
          8 May 2013 09: 00
          Quote: Vasya Ivanov
          I’m skeptical about prediction,


          What is skeptical of this right, the Mayan calendars were remembered, so they dared to dwell on all delays in hyper


          1. +14
            8 May 2013 09: 21
            Israel, through its actions, has contributed much to the consolidation of the Muslim world. So it will not be so simple for the Americans, and especially for the Jews. The government’s policy began to cause at least shame on Jews in the world in general and especially among Syrian supporters
            1. Rioter
              -24
              8 May 2013 13: 09
              Whom did you rally? Go to al Jazeera's website and read the comments. Here are some: "Thank you Israel! I didn't think I would write this, but Allah, bless Israel!" also "Israel is doing more for the people of Syria than all our cowardly rulers put together!" I have translated only a few. It was Syria that rallied the entire Arab world, represented by the Arab League, against itself, when in this Pesite-Arab confrontation Assad lay under Tehran. It seems to me that Lag so tenderly condemned the Israeli bombing, having paid Israel high-precision bombs in advance, so that the Jews would not blow up the budget laughing
              1. +9
                8 May 2013 13: 34
                Quote: Rioter
                ... Assad lay down under Tehran ...

                These words are yours personally, which means that the above quotes from the forums are supported by you. Minus from me, because I'm on the other side.
              2. +10
                8 May 2013 16: 11
                Quote: Rioter
                Didn't think I would write this, but Allah bless Israel! ",
                In Libya, too, they applauded the west, but this did not stop the killing of the American ambassador. hi
              3. +5
                9 May 2013 00: 34
                Quote: Rioter
                Visit al Jazeera's website and read comments

                Rioter go to the site mail.ru read the comments on the news, if you do not notice anything - it's time to go to the asylum ......
              4. inbous
                +3
                9 May 2013 03: 10
                "the whole Arab world, represented by the Arab League" is a good joke, especially considering that Syria was asked from this "prestigious" organization back in 2011. And, all the more - what does the Arab League and the entire Muslim world have to do with it, Yosya? Al Jazeera watched? No one is fond of Hollywood here.
              5. Che
                Che
                -1
                9 May 2013 13: 13
                Jews direct and support bandits against the Syrian people, the scenario of the 2nd world before us. Well, the second Nuremberg in the Holocaust, now Arabs.
            2. vitold777
              +1
              12 May 2013 14: 32
              There can hardly be any talk about consolidation, and how the Saudi and Qatari princes will walk along the Las Vegas brothels (they are also kept by the Jews).
        3. shtabs
          -36
          8 May 2013 09: 10
          Wang has long been dead, where did the predictions come from ??? Russian proverb: I would know the ransom, I would live in Sochi ..
          1. shtabs
            -6
            8 May 2013 11: 07
            I remember about Medvedev PM, they said that they say Wang said that a strong bear would come and lead Russia out of chaos, and all as one believed it .. I think the details should not be reminded ?? Almost all the Russians crossed their heels when that deadline ended, I still said nothing about the cabinet of ministers — robbery, grouping, Gaddafi’s discharge, almost the time of Yeltsin came. Glory to V.V. Putin once again led us (Russia) to the lead.
            In the future I give 100% that if any cataclysm happens, the superstitious ones will go online and find a record of some troll that they say Wang predicted, deceiving themselves and comforting with false predictions.
            Put the cons .. give the go-ahead
          2. +15
            8 May 2013 20: 38
            Quote: shtabs
            Russian proverb: I would know the ransom, I would live in Sochi ..

            This is not a Russian saying, but a thief. It is not necessary to identify the Russian people with the lessons. stop
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        4. +11
          8 May 2013 09: 21
          Quote: Vasya Ivanov
          Campaign grandmother was right.

          Yes ..... I read the recollections of my niece about 5 years ago.
          Granny seemed to be the only one, really even in a metaphorical form, but she was given the correct information. So far everything is converging.
        5. +1
          8 May 2013 09: 37
          it is even written in the bible.
          1. +14
            8 May 2013 11: 35
            You read less Jewish books.
            1. TUMAN
              +3
              8 May 2013 13: 41
              Quote: xoma58
              You read less Jewish books.

              + good
      2. +14
        8 May 2013 09: 36
        I would add. As Zadornov said:
        - you guys individually are nothing normal. But, how do you get together ....
      3. +21
        8 May 2013 09: 49
        Quote: Mechanic
        I have nothing against the Jews as a people,


        Similarly, after Chechnya and Dagestan of all these emirs, terrorist attacks and Wahhabism in Russia, and as a result of the desecration of the Eternal Flame and the monuments of the Great Patriotic War, I have a strong feeling of rejection for all Arabs. Traders - sell each other and Syria themselves sold


        1. Kaa
          +13
          8 May 2013 11: 58
          Quote: Vadivak
          I have a strong sense of rejection for all Arabs. Traders - sell each other and Syria themselves sold
          But when the word 'Israel' is spoken, they immediately turn into a fighting stance: “Saudi Arabia demanded that the UN put an end to Israeli attacks against Syria, the official kingdom news agency SPA said. prevent a repeat of Israeli raids in Syria Saudi Arabia, along with Qatar and Turkey, is known to be a sponsor of anti-government forces in Syria. http://www.zman.com/news/2013/05/06/150528.html
          Sane people in Israel are aware of this: “There was an expression of delight on the faces of the news anchors of the main Israeli TV channels.
          Still would! Israeli military intelligence AMAN managed to convince the Americans that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad had war gas. Indeed, we have something to be proud of. We can when we want! The Americans failed to prove that Iran came close to the stage of mass production of atomic bombs, so we recouped on Syrian gas. What do you say to that? Fools, uniform fools. In my opinion, it’s only in the old joke that the Jew doesn’t step on the same rake twice. Well, it’s not enough for us that in the USA they curse the Israelis for “dragging” them into Iraq. So now, “according to intelligence reports,” we are making every impression that Israel is pulling the Americans into the Syrian conflict.Wise strategists will correct me, recalling that a whole tangle of interests is tied to Syria. These are the interests of Russia, China and Iran, on the one hand, and the United States, Britain, and Saudi Arabia, on the other. There are no Israeli interests in Syria. A civil war is in full swing in Syria. More broadly, the war between Sunnis and Shiites. This war is roughly 1300 years old and whoever intervenes in Syrian affairs will get bogged down in this war. For about another 1300 years. Do we need this? No. So who will win this war is unknown. What is Israel doing? First of all, he announces that Jordan has given Israel its sky so that it can send its drones to monitor the situation in Syria. Firstly, given the length of the Israeli-Syrian border, the need for the Jordanian sky is also doubtful. Secondly, if this is so, why shout about it "all over Ivanovskaya?" No, the Israelis are once again recalling their involvement in what is happening in Syria. I have no doubt that the Syrians have suffered during the war years. But what does civil war teach any people? The fact that you simply cannot survive without your own armed police. Do we really need Islamic armed police? Or will it be announced a new tourist attraction: “An Arab merchant with Kalashnikov?” Well, let's book an excursion.Humanists frown and remind me of the humanitarian problem in Syria. And I will remind them of the civil war that erupted in Lebanon at one time and the humanitarian problem of Christians that arose there. Israel rushed to solve this problem and got stuck in Lebanon for 18 years, paying the lives of thousands of Israeli soldiers.. Therefore, our real interest is that in the press the words “civil war in Syria” and “Israel” should be found as rarely as possible in one sentence. It is advisable not to meet at all. Keep the border locked. Http://www.zman.com/news/2013/04/28/150000.html
          1. +11
            8 May 2013 12: 29
            Quote: Kaa
            Saudi Arabia demanded that the UN put an end to Israeli attacks against Syria,


            Zhenya hello, the Saudis were the first to betray (sold) Syria remember Saudi Arabia, "trying to end the violence in Syria, sent a military cargo for the Free Syrian Army through Jordan." Instead of supporting the SAR, the Saudis and Qatar began to finance terrorists and their criminal activity.

            Again, my subjective opinion, Stalin recognized Israel, there are no Arabs, I think there is no need to discuss smarter ones.
            1. Kaa
              +11
              8 May 2013 13: 28
              Quote: Vadivak
              The Saudis first betrayed (sold) Syria
              Vadim, this is true, but given the "special relationship" of the Saudis and the Americans, all this must be correlated taking into account Kerry's visit to Moscow - apparently, the United States does not mind giving the go-ahead to curtail the armed opposition, because the result is unpredictable, here the Saudis are like jackals under Sherkhan and at the beginning of the war, and now they were the first to bark "And we will go to the north ... and when we return, there will be no one" laughing
          2. Rioter
            -8
            8 May 2013 13: 16
            Quote: Kaa
            Saudi Arabia demanded that the UN put an end


            And Qatar called for bombing Israel, immediately after the emir of Qatar left Gaza, and Israel launched a "Cloud Pillar" in the interests of Qatar. Well East. What to say. Do not make me laugh. (This did not stop the Prince of Qatar from preparing a visit to Israel, and his desire to start a large-scale import of technology from Israel) The Saudis demanded the most? Shouted the loudest? Well, that means they paid Israel for these high-precision missiles. laughing Petruha Kaa, East is a delicate matter. If you haven’t lived there and don’t know the logic of the East, do not comment.
            1. Kaa
              +6
              8 May 2013 13: 42
              Quote: Rioter
              Rioter
              Your reasoning is very close to the thoughts of your brothers, at least according to the UNMind of Israel, where, according to your words, you live or often visit.
              Quote: Rioter
              . If you haven’t lived there and don’t know the logic of the East, do not comment.

              So go to work on Israeli forums, or are you not in demand there? wink
              1. Rioter
                +2
                8 May 2013 14: 10
                I live in St. Petersburg.
                Quote: Kaa
                If you haven’t lived there and don’t know the logic of the East, do not comment.
                - here I was actually a bit harsh. For which I apologize, you just often pay attention to words (which in BV do not mean anything at all), and ignore deeds. Simply in the words of George Carlin: "Сonsistency!" Logics! I'm interested in logic. And whoever shouts what, but for now I see impeccable logic in Israel's actions. All recent events do not weaken, but strengthen Israel. You can love or hate Jews or Israel, but when this love or hate begins to affect the ability to think soberly, this is not good. In other matters in your comments KAA, I did not notice this. But if you go over the comments, you will find that many people see not what is happening, but what they would like. It is not interesting. For example, I wonder why the position on Syria has changed so much. Last time there was no confirmation of the strike, but Minister Lavrov has already made a sharp reaction. And the news opened from that. Now I see clear signs of a change in Russia's position. And I am very interested in this connection? I don't have the slightest guess. But instead of a balanced discussion and a search for reasons and logic that interest me, there are continuous calls to bomb Israel with caps to the "last railroad". What is just a kindergarten.


                Quote: Kaa
                Or are you not in demand there?
                Everything is simpler, I don’t read on hibrow :) And therefore I occasionally sit here. But it must be said at Angloforums that people are more prone to analyze and search for the causes of a phenomenon. Stakeholders and possible consequences. Everything is somehow more like a kindergarten, and you are one of the few who do not slide down to this kindergarten. Therefore, the law is not pleasant, as the last adherents of logical research slip into the declaration of slogans.
                1. TUMAN
                  +4
                  8 May 2013 14: 27
                  Quote: Rioter
                  I live in St. Petersburg.

                  Is there a bubble? Damn, how many are there in St. Petersburg?
                2. -4
                  8 May 2013 14: 33
                  Quote: Rioter
                  Now I see clear signs of a change in Russia's position. And I'm very interested in this connection? I have no idea

                  Yes, the question is very interesting. Given that China has condemned, and here is just an expression of concern. In diplomatic language - We know, but we don’t really care.
                  1. Rioter
                    +3
                    8 May 2013 14: 54
                    Yes, the Chinese were much sharper. But Russia did not even return a military band to the ship. Lavrov did not say a word. Lukoshevich just mumbled something about a common concern. It is strange to God. But yes, we will observe. If all of Russia's activity in Syria is curtailed, then something was offered to ours such that it costs a drain. The question is what.
                    1. 0
                      8 May 2013 16: 37
                      Quote: Rioter
                      Yes, the Chinese were much sharper.

                      but this did not stop them (the Chinese) from settling Natanyagu the day before yesterday in a room for 20 pieces of greens per night. At the expense of the host, that is, China
                3. Kaa
                  +10
                  8 May 2013 14: 52
                  Quote: Rioter
                  it's just that you often pay attention to words
                  Moderators have
                  Quote: Rioter
                  All recent events are not weakening, but strengthening Israel.

                  Read carefully my post, taken from the Israeli site, where the author convinces that Israel should not get involved in this mess.
                  Quote: Rioter
                  You can love or hate Jews or Israel

                  I have already written many times that I have neither love nor hatred for Jews or Arabs (women do not count laughing), but how to relate to the state of Israel is a complex matter. Created thanks to the help of the USSR and contrary to the opinion of most Western countries, it is then sold for a tranche of 100 million. dollars from the United States and refuses preliminary agreements on the socialist path of development. General Vlasov, too ... was kindly, but few people sympathize with him.
                  Quote: Rioter
                  Everything is simpler, I do not read hibrow :)

                  Use Google Chrome, and do not read it.
                  Quote: Rioter
                  Now I see clear signs of a change in Russia's position. And I'm very interested in this connection? I have no idea.

                  And you rummage around in Runet, it mentions the presence of a package of agreements on issues that concern the United States more than the fate of Israel and Syria combined - a cyber security treaty, cooperation in nuclear and chemical disarmament of third countries, tactical nuclear weapons of Russia.
                  Quote: Rioter
                  But I must say in English forums, people are more prone to analyze and look for the causes of a phenomenon
                  But this is better not necessary, especially when it comes to Americans. It seems that their development stopped during puberty, common sense (for various reasons), mainly belong to immigrants, including from the USSR.
                  Quote: Rioter
                  You are one of the few who do not slide down to this kindergarten.
                  Therefore, the law is not nice, as the latest adherents of logical research slide down to the declaration of slogans
                  I will object to you. There are VERY MUCH sane people, visit the forum more often and, please, carefully and thoroughly read the comments, since you are positioning yourself as a person prone to analytics. hi
                4. +3
                  8 May 2013 17: 54
                  Quote: Rioter
                  But it must be said at Angloforums that people are more prone to analyze and search for the causes of a phenomenon. Stakeholders and possible consequences. Everything is somehow more like a kindergarten,


                  talk nonsense
                  I’ve read several translations of the French-Dutch forum about 2MB, there really is babbling there, they don’t know much, but what they know before is turned upside down (well, they are taught so) that black is white.
                  I occasionally run into Ursa manor (translations of Polish forums), so this is happening there, a fire sensation in a madhouse.
                  so the VO forum is quite distinct, and very objective (basically)



                  and (if anyone is interested)
                  I consider the most intellectually saturated forum
                  site "Alternative history"
                  highly recommend.
                5. Che
                  Che
                  +1
                  9 May 2013 13: 22
                  The imperialists have one logic where and whom to rob. And our thoughts on this background bullshit. Only our strength can stop the west from helping international bandits.
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      4. WW3
        WW3
        +10
        8 May 2013 12: 09
        Quote: Mechanic
        The Americans lead Israel into the grave slowly but systematically.

        Maybe, on the contrary, Israel leads America, they have a state of little enemies around them, cunning Jews pull the strings in the United States, not only do I get all kinds of help, both political and economic, from the UN and other countries. It is noteworthy how Turkey, simultaneously with the latest Israeli bombardments, was drawn into the political statements of its prime minister, but at the same time deployed anti-Syrian air defense systems in advance. Tayyip Erdogan’s statement was agreed in advance with both the United States and Israel, and this is suggestive.
        Given his earlier statements for example this Yes
        http://rus.ruvr.ru/2012_11_19/Premer-Turcii-nazval-Izrail-terroristicheskim-gosu
        darstvom /
        1. Rustiger
          +9
          8 May 2013 12: 42
          Quote: WW3
          Maybe on the contrary, Israel leads America

          That's it, Sergey! As always, even when Israel as a state did not exist at all.
          Moreover, all the "strings" are precisely the Iberian ones tied in the State Department, the Senate, the Pentagon, banks and corporations, and the media. And not vice versa - amerovskie in izrailovke.
          It turns out that "a shabby tail wags a dog with super-military jaws."
          Yes, not just one dog, but a whole pack! Although he himself does not even play the role of a wolf, so, the jackal "Tabaki" from the cartoon. ... ...
          But knowing the passion of the Iverians for conspiracy theology, they always try to divert gaze from themselves.
          tobaccostobaccos
        2. Chavy
          +8
          8 May 2013 13: 17
          Zionists (not Israelis) hold America for one place, and America is the rest of the world. In America, the influential Jewish lobby of 60000 AIPAC usurps the entire top echelons of power in many sectors of the economy and politics. After 9/11, the Zionists finally established control over America
      5. +4
        8 May 2013 13: 02

        We all remember and know the words and piercing pain in the heart from the loss of loved ones in that war.
      6. +6
        8 May 2013 13: 45
        Quote: Mechanic
        but their government was overwhelmed

        The government was overthrown because of the support of the people. This is not the first time that the people who elect are to be noted this prime minister. Thus, it is clear that voters want this.
      7. +1
        8 May 2013 13: 50
        Quote: Mechanic
        their government

        and representatives of the business "elite", having cut down another fat jackpot, will sit where the thread is in the Alps and they will not give a damn that somewhere ordinary Jews will be "rolled" into asphalt, and ordinary Jews "rolled" into asphalt and rolled into a tube ... will remember with sadness as they wrote on the forum .. how they defended their government .. but only too late .. for pawns.
        (well, this is one of the probabilities).
      8. +2
        8 May 2013 18: 04
        Or maybe they need it? And where is the fucking UN? And our Foreign Ministry? But where is the air defense? This is a test of their work.
      9. +1
        14 May 2013 16: 37
        Quote: Mechanic
        I have nothing against the Jews as a people,

        I begin to "have" something after such cases!
    2. +7
      8 May 2013 09: 08
      Now it’s obvious that something will happen in the summer.
      1. Rustiger
        +11
        8 May 2013 10: 19
        Quote: Deniska999
        Now it’s obvious that something will happen in the summer.

        "The month of May will seriously prepare for war, but it will not reach the war. June will also invite to the war, but it will not reach it either. July will be so serious and formidable that many will say goodbye to their wives and children. In August, they will talk about war in all corners of the earth. September and October will bring great bloodshed. Amazing things will happen in November"
        / from the book of Abbot Beykirkh "Prophetic voices", 1849 /

        About the world war before the end of the world, the holy Apostle John the Theologian in the Apocalypse says this:
        "The sixth Angel sounded its trumpet and I heard one voice from the four horns of the golden altar / Pin.dosia (?!), standing before God, who spoke to the sixth / Magendavid / Angelwho had a trumpet: release the four Angels bound by the great river Euphrates. And the four angels were set free, prepared for an hour and a day and a month and a year, in order to kill a third of the people. ... . "
        According to some interpreters, the words of the Apocalypse about "four angels set free at the Euphrates River" (Rev. 9, 14) point to four specific states through whose territory this “great river" flows and which will become the main arena of the upcoming world war. If we look at the map, we will see that these are the following countries: TURKEY, SYRIA, IRAQ, IRAN.

        The famous Athos Elder Paisius (in 1994) predicted the following about the impending World War:
        “The thought tells me that many events will happen: the Russians will occupy Turkey, Turkey will disappear from the map, because 1/3 of the Turks will become Christians, 1/3 will die and 1/3 will go to Mesopotamia. The Middle East will become the arena of wars in which they will be accepted participation of the Russians. A lot of blood will be shed, and even the Chinese will cross the Euphrates River, having an army of 200.000.000, and reach Jerusalem. A characteristic sign that these events are approaching will be the destruction of the Mosque of Omar, since its destruction will mean the beginning of work on the reconstruction of the Temple of Solomon which was built exactly on that spot. "
      2. avt
        +15
        8 May 2013 10: 22
        Quote: Deniska999
        Now it’s obvious that something will happen in the summer.

        In summer, of course, there will be something, as in autumn and winter. On the topic, one can only note a very large diplomatic activity with little visible result, two clearly coordinated visits of Keri to Moscow and Netanyahu to China are noteworthy. Perhaps we can assume that the issue is being resolved and that Beijing and Moscow will support Tehran in the event of aggression in Syria and the involvement of Tehran in full-scale conflict. And in the light of its escalation, the following question is interesting. Unlike the Serbs, the Persians will respond alternatively, with sabotage actions on a "net" field? And this is no longer the shelling of Israel's water pipes, there may well be a terrorist war involving not only explosives.
    3. +27
      8 May 2013 09: 45
      Well, here's the truth for you. Hating Israel and the Zionists in general, Arabs and many Muslims fighting on the side of the opposition forces in Syria themselves do not even suspect that they are puppets in the hands of the Mossad and the Israeli government. And they are, in fact, not waging a liberation war, as they themselves say, but simply for some 100 "Mrikan" bucks they supply their own meat to the slaughterhouse to implement the cunning plans of the Jews.

      Now Assad's Syrians, unfortunately, will have a very bad time. After all, you need to maintain the morale of your army all the time, and after such news with bombs, "greetings" from Israel, it will be more and more difficult to do this. There, unfortunately, they still hope for an honest and equal confrontation, some kind of truth and justice, and also, possibly, total support from Russia. And in vain. When the enemy is extremely arrogant and treacherous, there are continuous enemies around, and the only powerful ally (Russia) is far away, you need to look for other ways out of this big problem. Direct frontal opposition will not help. Europe, America and neighboring countries Turkey and Israel want to devour Assad with giblets - the balance is incomparable.
      This is exactly the moment when it seems that worse simply does not happen. We need clever political moves, a delay of time, Putin understands this.

      Now, it seems to me, Assad in Syria is no longer the president, but simply a general who is fighting with loyal comrades against terrorist gangs.

      The whole real war for him at the diplomatic level is being waged by Putin, moreover, alone and practically with the whole West. What the hell will succeed, because after the collapse of the USSR much was lost, Russia can rely only on itself. But we cannot afford to rush and climb into a total mess that can easily turn into a third world war, only in 6-7 years ...
      1. +8
        8 May 2013 11: 57
        And now, it’s not true, the womb, but so-the assumption)).
        The situation in the USA is so lousy, with a persistent tendency to worsen, that it’s not about oil and not about religion. They mortally need a world war, but a war set by a number of conditions. Simply writing off debts will not save them, because the way of existence of this state generates these debts with incredible speed.
        The condition for their survival is the disappearance of Russia as a state and as a community. The "Great Caliphate" was to become the direct executor. Feeding and brushwood - all the states of the Near and Middle East and Europe. The United States, together with Japan, are ready in this situation to deal with China. The problem is lack of time)).
        According to their calculations, everything was to be held in 2015.
        1. +2
          8 May 2013 13: 28
          Quote: ctepx
          According to their calculations, everything was to be held in 2015.

          Where did the information come from or just said so?
          1. 0
            9 May 2013 10: 41
            Naturally, just like that)).
            Any information is subject to analysis. For the first time on this date I came across in 2006, exploring the local Siberian realities)). Further easier)).
            Yes, and I'm at the forefront. Here he constantly and everywhere hits the head. Here are the brains and forced to earn extra money)).
            1. 0
              9 May 2013 13: 35
              I just thought (unlikely) that it could be in December 2012. (like "end of the world"), the second option is what they are preparing for at the top - 2020. (more likely), 2015 did not see references anywhere, in addition, I did not see any analytical calculations for 2015 anywhere, so I asked.
              1. +1
                10 May 2013 19: 39
                Quote: El13
                I have not seen any analytical calculations for 2015 anywhere

                And I thought that you had a hint of the "Dulles plan", its completion is just scheduled for 2015)).
                Perhaps he also influenced)).
                And gas pipelines by 2015?
                And the melting of the Northern Sea Route? And what about frosts in Europe? And the attempt to "bring back" the Gulf Stream in the Gulf of Mexico?
                After 2015, Western civilization passes the point of no return)).
        2. jump master
          +2
          8 May 2013 16: 44
          Almost 100% hit, only can they play it or not? But Europe is quietly being pumped up against Russia!
    4. Skiff
      +7
      8 May 2013 09: 50
      Large hydrocarbon reserves were discovered on the Mediterranean shelf off the Syrian coast. Israel, with its contribution to the elimination of the Assad regime, expects to receive a quota in the future Energy Consortium.
      1. -8
        8 May 2013 12: 34
        Quote: Skiff
        Large hydrocarbon reserves have been discovered on the shelf of the Mediterranean off the Syrian coast.

        When and where, do not tell? Can you confuse with Israel?
    5. -1
      8 May 2013 09: 58
      It is strange that there is no Russian reaction, either in words or in deed, to air strikes in Syria. It seems the answer will be made in practice - Putin seems to send troops into Syria.
      1. +7
        8 May 2013 10: 07
        Quote: Canep
        Putin seems to bring troops into Syria.


        Yeah, as in Libya - the Transfiguration Regiment. Sergey do not build illusions. Oil as the main export product for dollars has not been canceled.
      2. djon3volta
        -3
        8 May 2013 10: 43
        Quote: Canep
        Putin seems to send troops to Syria

        why is China not introducing? China is also on the side of Russia on the Syrian issue!? although if Yeltsin almost brought troops into Serbia, then it is not known that Putin can. although Putin is smarter than Yeltsin, but still .. so far nothing is clear.
        1. +18
          8 May 2013 11: 01
          Quote: djon3volta
          although if Yeltsin almost brought troops into Serbia,


          And without leaving the binge. Do not attribute to the alcoholic what he did not even guess


          P / S / * Nerd * Anxious especially for you

          Even the Foreign Ministry did not know anything about the attack on Pristina, the operation was being prepared by the GRU in front of the paratroopers, 18 special forces were already working there, and Yeltsin was reported in the morning, asleep he only said - "Young people!" and went on to plump, 200 paratroopers were left without water, food and support Hungary (NATO member) and Bulgaria (NATO ally), refused to provide Russia with an air corridor, as a result, the paratroopers were practically left alone for several days with all the arriving NATO forces. And only in July, the Il-76 began to arrive from Ryazan, Pskov and Ivanovo

      3. Rioter
        +4
        8 May 2013 13: 20
        The Russian Foreign Ministry did not even express condemnation. Only "CARE" this time. Wipe your eyes.
    6. +34
      8 May 2013 10: 24
      Quote: Clever man
      Jews are completely overgrown

      - You will be accused of anti-Semitism. There will be a professor, pimply and burning with the noble anger of the offended innocent sheep, they will begin to brand you with shame and blame the Holocaust!
      How beautifully they presented us here that poor Israel is only defending itself, bad Arabs are pecking it from all sides, and they are only defending themselves! How they burned with righteous fire of anger when they were accused of aggressiveness! laughing
      Masks are reset. Irail - AGGRESSOR! It is proved. For a long time disguised as a defender, a kind of wolf in sheep's clothing. It makes sense to the Germans as a mitigating circumstance to impute the fact that they foresaw the predatory nature of these comrades and set up the Holocaust in a preventive order, defending themselves, so to speak. Strongly mitigating circumstance will not help them, but at least there is already the fact of mitigating circumstance
      1. +9
        8 May 2013 11: 18
        None of the above will come and write, all fear at the collection points of reservists))
      2. TUMAN
        +10
        8 May 2013 13: 52
        Quote: aksakal
        - You will be accused of anti-Semitism. There will be a professor, pimply and burning with the noble anger of the offended innocent sheep, they will begin to brand you with shame and blame the Holocaust!

        Finally, they began to call a spade a spade! And then I, and several members of the forum, are tired of writing to you about this!
      3. +10
        8 May 2013 13: 59
        Quote: aksakal
        you will be accused of anti-Semitism

        This is not so scary. Jews label exclusively goyim with the label “anti-Semitic,” if a Jew admits “anti-Semitic” statements, he is called a “self-hating Jew” or “hating Jew”
        And they also say that the Jews call "anti-Semites" those whom they simply hate.
      4. Net
        Net
        +8
        8 May 2013 17: 01
        There is a Russian proverb: "Believe a Jew - that measure the water with a sieve!"
      5. GG2012
        +11
        8 May 2013 17: 14
        Quote: aksakal
        - You will be accused of anti-Semitism. There will be a professor, pimply and burning with the noble anger of the offended innocent sheep, they will begin to brand you with shame and blame the Holocaust!


        Known to the world, the Jewish move ...
        In the morning, piss the neighbor's rug,
        And then sincerely say
        That the neighbor cat is to blame.

        Cat pour green water for lunch.
        And tell the owner of the cat,
        What, no light more than cattle,
        Than the one with a rug a neighbor ...

        And only the moon begins to rise.
        Like crazy bears
        Bleed neighbors among themselves.
        And quietly enjoying watching ...


        Well, when the neighbors figure it out.
        Who to blame for what happened
        And how to "thank" him.
        Neighbors for ... yes, take

        And the one after a powerful enema,
        Start screaming frantically
        Will begin to blame the neighbors.
        Of course ... in anti-Semitism ...
    7. +4
      8 May 2013 12: 53
      this once again shows the un mask un.
    8. +15
      8 May 2013 14: 04
      Fresh video from Syria

      Another fighter, first appears before the battle, who he is and wherefrom, then we see him already being evacuated, well, and in the end, a reward for his work ..


      The field commander shows the young gunman where his position is and here the gift flies out the window from the Syrian tankmen.


      During the movement, the groups of one of the militants were shot, then the correspondent of the militants tells how they are fighting heroically and here a gift of 120 mm mortar mine covered the heroes.


      Another Al Qaeda action movie destroyed
      1. +10
        8 May 2013 14: 30
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Fresh video from Syria

        Judging by the voice acting of these militants' videos, the battle cry "Allahu Akbar" has turned into farewell words to the dead.
      2. Chavy
        +9
        8 May 2013 14: 44
        The second video at 0:55 said something similar to the Israeli "ma kara" - what happened.
        1. +7
          8 May 2013 16: 42
          Quote: Chavy
          The second video at 0:55 said something similar to the Israeli "ma kara" - what happened.

          damn just shouted ma kara. only arabic accent. most likely Palestinian
      3. +6
        8 May 2013 18: 20
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Fresh video from Syria


        strange feeling from the second video, as if not a battle group, but a flock of embittered wild sabaks.
        barking conversation, constant howls, unnecessary fuss.
        But how did they react to the murdered man?
        immediately fell off and gang.
        apparently "straight from the tin" unshot darlings.

        and Israel has leaped for such?
        poor Jews, when these tobaccos end with Assad, they will come to you.
      4. Che
        Che
        +2
        9 May 2013 14: 33
        Vladyka Sith respect for the positive videos. Good luck and good health. After the destruction of the bandit attack organized by the West. I feel Syria will have a public holiday. I wish you success in this noble cause.
      5. +1
        11 May 2013 20: 43
        Yes, a cool selection !!!!!!!!!! always look !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    9. +3
      8 May 2013 20: 25
      Quote: Clever man
      Jews are completely overgrown

      To clarify, the Israelites. We will not slander all Jews indiscriminately.
  2. +10
    8 May 2013 08: 26
    This is not the first such coincidence between the actions of Israeli aviation and the supposedly hostile to Israel militants of the SSA and radical terrorist groups.
    Israel is trying to "catch a fish in troubled water", but something too much has gone too far, it would be time for it to cool down, otherwise, in fact, now they can "ogreb" in full ...
    1. +6
      8 May 2013 10: 29
      Quote: svp67
      it would be time for him to cool

      It will be cooled only by force, they, like the Arabs, only understand the force and nothing else .. it is clear that the Syrian Air Force is 10 times smaller than the Jewish in modern aircraft, so here we need a military trick, we must deprive this aircraft of the opportunity to fly into the air .. how to do it, let them consult with us, they can use the 08.08.08 experiment, although the forces are certainly different, plus the Mossad knows absolutely everything about the plans of the Syrian troops .. We need a military genius, Arab Stalin, so to speak ..
      1. Misantrop
        +10
        8 May 2013 10: 35
        Quote: DEfindER
        We need a military genius, Arab Stalin, so to speak ..
        Or Arabic Zheglov. "A thief should be in prison" (c) Bribed military leader - too. As far as I remember, practically all Arab-Israeli conflicts began with a serious bribery by Israel of the leading cadres of the opposing side. Hence the ultimate awareness, "indecision" and other "components of success"
        1. +11
          8 May 2013 11: 53
          Quote: Misantrop
          As far as I remember, almost all Arab-Israeli conflicts began with serious bribery


          Absolutely, the merchants sold Hussein and did not choke.
    2. FATEMOGAN
      +11
      8 May 2013 13: 52
      Quote: svp67
      Israel is trying to "catch a fish in troubled waters," but something too overstretched, it would be time for it to cool down, otherwise, in fact, now they can "ogrebti" in full.

      The Jews, it seems, are simply trying to provoke Assad into retaliatory actions, which will be regarded by "the entire advanced crap community" as an excellent excuse for a full-scale invasion of Syria. And it does not matter that it was a Jewish provocation, the main thing will not be that the Syrians are dying in hundreds and in thousands every day, and that in Israel a couple of Jews will be killed by the Syrian retaliatory actions, here they will start their worn out organ about the Holocaust and the necessary urgent actions to prevent a new one all over the world.
  3. +9
    8 May 2013 08: 26
    If the author is right about the air defense of Syria, then it will simply be smashed after a retaliatory strike, unless of course we help with serious air defense systems. Maybe this is why Syria is not yet waiting for the arrival of our technology. I hope she is on her way.
    1. +15
      8 May 2013 09: 19
      in the light of yesterday’s talks between Lavrov and Kerry, everything looks very suspicious and alarming. Optimism melts regarding the effective assistance to Syria from the Russian Federation. Everything is muddy. We will see ...
    2. +8
      8 May 2013 09: 21
      I would like to be on the road. But do not forget that the Russian Jewish Congress controls our government. Remember how they did not give the S-300 to Iran.
      1. Nitup
        +3
        8 May 2013 10: 53
        Quote: Oberst_71
        But do not forget that the Russian Jewish Congress controls our government. Remember how they did not give the S-300 to Iran

        Do not forget, then Medvedev was the president.
        1. +15
          8 May 2013 11: 56
          Quote: Nitup
          Do not forget, then Medvedev was the president.


          joke - Medvedev-President
          1. +2
            8 May 2013 12: 56
            joke with a beard
          2. Nitup
            +1
            8 May 2013 13: 27
            Funny to pain
        2. +4
          8 May 2013 12: 21
          Jewish Medvedev.
          1. +5
            8 May 2013 12: 36
            Quote: xoma58
            Jewish Medvedev.


            By nationality, yes. At the age of 23, he was baptized as an Orthodox Christian.
    3. +12
      8 May 2013 10: 06
      Quote: avant-garde
      Maybe this is why Syria is not yet waiting for the arrival of our technology.

      Yes, you are one of those who believe that it is enough to bring S-300/400 and that’s all, the sky is clear? To create reliable air defense, a common radar field is needed, a network of airfields with duty groups of fighters is needed, this is in addition to air defense systems. For all this, the most important thing is, PREPARED AND TRAINED PERSONNEL! Where will Assad take them? Will order accelerated weekly courses?
      1. lars
        +2
        8 May 2013 10: 43
        During the time that this bloody show has been going on, it would have been possible to prepare and train, at least according to an accelerated program, personnel and update, albeit partially, individual "modules" of the general air defense system. If not with our help, then with the help of Iran, its help is not in words, it is real.
        1. +2
          8 May 2013 13: 47
          Quote: lars
          During the time that this bloody show has been going on, it would have been possible to prepare and train, at least according to an accelerated program, personnel and update, albeit partially, individual "modules" of the general air defense system.

          But nothing, that there is a civil war all over the country, in which air defense is not the most important thing, and there is simply no time and no one to deal with it?
      2. +4
        8 May 2013 12: 13
        It seems that it will be impossible to defend Syria without starting a world war.
        The fall of Syria is also the beginning of the world.
        It seems that there is a struggle for the conditions of this beginning. Any extra month is not already - a day - in our favor. How Putin-master will help out of this ...
        Good for us. Just. You just need to prepare in this way)).
        1. -14
          8 May 2013 12: 37
          Quote: ctepx
          The fall of Syria is also the beginning of the world.

          Not the beginning, in general you give Syria a very large place in the world. Huffed, poor, backward country. With a civil war and a scattered people. Nobody will suit the 3rd world for it.
          1. +6
            8 May 2013 16: 32
            Quote: atalef
            Nobody will suit the 3rd world for it.

            Syria is not a reason, but only an excuse! You don’t think that the reason for the First World War murder of the Archduke. The war is real as never before and the main goal is not Syria but Iran. The actions of Israel cannot be called insane otherwise. hi
          2. wk
            +1
            8 May 2013 23: 31
            Quote: atalef
            Huffed, poor, backward country. With a civil war and a scattered people. Nobody will suit the 3rd world for it.

            only God knows why the great wars begin .... here the Trojan War generally began because of a woman, and by the scale of that world it’ll calmly pull the world
          3. 0
            9 May 2013 11: 05
            Quote: atalef
            in general you give Syria a very large place in the world

            It seems to me that the place of Syria and Israel in today's realities of the future world is key)). Approximately as the place of Czechoslovakia and Poland in the previous one)).
            Those. it seems to them that EVERYTHING depends on them. But in fact, everything determines the strength of the castle and the skill of a thief)). Well, the presence of cameras and alarms)).
        2. 0
          8 May 2013 13: 00
          The Islamic World War is already on, Syria is just the place where it is concentrated. The Sunnis will eventually crush the Shiites and their eternal dispute will end ...
  4. 755962
    +8
    8 May 2013 08: 28
    Russia could greatly help with the supply of S-300

    Once such a thing has started .... Is there any reason to deny the obvious? There is a war and a war not for life but for death. And more and more ... What do you think, how far can it go if you do not take the author’s advice articles?
    1. +4
      8 May 2013 10: 04
      And that the Syrians have trained personnel for the C300? Or again send your own?
      1. +8
        8 May 2013 12: 09
        Quote: sergey32
        Or again send your own?

        If I am not mistaken, our military specialists perfectly helped the Vietnamese. I see no reason why not help the Syrians. At the beginning with advice and weapons.
        Refusing the dollar as a means of settlement between states would probably help as a definite measure (to start BRICS).
        I can’t understand this indecision of our authorities. What are they waiting for? After all, it is completely clear that further (in the event of the fall of Syria) hordes of militants will trample towards Russia. War will come to our homes.
        It is not necessary to think about possible complications at the Olympics, but generally about the existence of Russia as a state.
        The position of the ostrich with its head in the sand probably has a number of advantages for the ostrich, but it also provides many advantages to those who creep up to the ostrich from behind.
        1. -8
          8 May 2013 12: 39
          Quote: Onotolle
          After all, it is completely clear that further (in the event of the fall of Syria) hordes of militants will trample towards Russia. War will come to our homes.

          far from fact. they generally say they will trample into Israel first (we are closer) But for some reason you are more afraid of us request
          1. 755962
            +3
            8 May 2013 12: 47
            Quote: atalef
            They generally say they will trample to Israel first

            And we don’t need any radicals either .. Or do you think you can come to an agreement with them? At least you can try with a legal government, and hardly with bearded freaks ... Europe is also afraid of this. In my opinion, it would be more reasonable to combine efforts against extremists. Otherwise, this infection will not allow anyone to live in peace.
            1. -9
              8 May 2013 12: 59
              Quote: 755962
              And we don’t need the radicals either .. Or do you think you’ll come to an agreement with them?

              We don’t need them, no, we’ll be extinguishing them, as always. It is only strange that Great Russia, located 1000 km from Syria, is more afraid of these bearded men than tiny Israel. (I'm not talking about the fact that somehow from them (bandiuk, we could not hear we are going to Russia, to Israel - yes)
              Quote: 755962
              With a legal government, at least you can try

              With Assad? But he wants to. 3 times offered. You will not be forcibly sweet.

              Quote: 755962
              it would be wiser to join forces against extremists

              We observe.


              Quote: 755962
              Otherwise, this infection will not allow anyone to live in peace.

              We have been living in this for 60 years and in many respects due to Assad’s fault, let him suffer, maybe he will understand.
              1. +2
                8 May 2013 13: 12
                Quote: atalef
                afraid of these bearded men

                It would be more correct to say "working out different possible scenarios for the development of events"
              2. +3
                8 May 2013 16: 39
                Quote: atalef
                It is only strange that Great Russia, located 1000 km from Syria, is more afraid of these bearded men than tiny Israel.

                Nobody is afraid of them, it’s just that Russia is more vulnerable than Israel due to the geographical location and ethnic composition of the population, because Israel is essentially a police state in this regard closer to the USSR than to European democracies. hi
                1. +1
                  9 May 2013 11: 15
                  Quote: ultra
                  Israel is in fact a police state in this regard, it is closer to the USSR

                  Present-day Israel is far closer to Nazi Germany than to the USSR)).
                  The difference between them is actually one. Those appointed to play the role of conquerors, and these - leaked.
          2. +5
            8 May 2013 13: 01
            Quote: atalef
            far from fact. they generally say they will trample to Israel first

            Islamic radicalism is carefully nurtured by Qatar and Saudi Arabia under the strict guidance of the United States. And the United States is our sworn friends. This time.
            The true cause of the wars waged by the United States and others like it is resources and money, and by no means an ideology. These are two.
            Are there many resources in Israel?
            1. +1
              9 May 2013 12: 16
              Israel's biggest resource is money. Can you imagine how much you can withdraw from a ruddy, plump "non-goo" who will give 49,573% of their money for leaving
          3. Chavy
            +5
            8 May 2013 13: 26
            They will trample and do not hesitate, your American "friend" by donating you is trying to rekindle the region by various methods.
          4. FATEMOGAN
            +3
            8 May 2013 15: 22
            Quote: atalef
            far from fact. they generally say they’ll trample into Israel first (we’re closer)

            Of course, they will trample on Israel first, therefore, Israel is now helping the militants with all its might, probably, so that they would come faster ...

            Quote: atalef
            But for some reason you are afraid more than us

            what are you afraid to worry about? If they come to you, it’s only for their salary.
          5. +8
            8 May 2013 16: 22
            Quote: atalef
            But for some reason you are afraid more than us

            - there is one version, I think it will be confirmed. You are not afraid, because it is your creation and is controlled by you laughing Therefore, they will not trample on to Israel, but as a poorly trained dog, snapping at you, will trample on Russia and neighboring countries, where, as a matter of fact, they point it to the command "FAS!" laughing It won’t go further than gnawing - no matter how badly trained the dog is, it is still trained and will not go against the owner laughing
            It is necessary in the Baltic countries to raise the same poorly trained dog, only with a sense of aggression towards another ethnic group laughing There it sits well in the Baltic states, but Israel dutifully swallows the given tricks of the Baltic states for the sake of their Russophobia laughing Not a single word of condemnation of the Baltic real anti-Semitic antics laughing What the Zionist cannot stand for the sake of a gesheft, there is no such humiliation in the world laughing
          6. +3
            8 May 2013 18: 39
            atalef! We have long been afraid of nothing and no one! Boyalka is over. I think that with the crowds of militants screaming al Akbar we can cope with a bang. There would be an order!
            1. -6
              8 May 2013 21: 49
              Quote: Yazov
              We have long been afraid of nothing and no one! Boyalka is over. I think that with the crowds of militants screaming al Akbar we can cope with a bang. There would be an order!
              I am happy for you, now try to explain it to others. hi
              1. +3
                8 May 2013 22: 49
                Quote: atalef
                happy for you, now try to explain it to others.

                - Yes, no one is afraid, just smarter if they are killed in Syria by the Syrians themselves laughing
              2. Rustiger
                +2
                9 May 2013 00: 07
                Quote: atalef
                I am happy for you, now try to explain it to others.

                Here, you, uyopa, why are you here! Why did you stick to us, with OUR troubles and OUR bazaars, absolutely to you, skinned, taken out in a suitcase or leaping across the airfield to an airplane, losing "red" crowns, buried in your own zop or natural.
                Who is interested in your Yavrov's "opinion"?
                You have a paid task, and you do it -

                http://topwar.ru/23382-platnye-internet-trolli-na-sluzhbe-gosudarstva-izrail.htm

                l


                How much I want to tell you. . . You would know. . .
                Especially in real life. . .
                I’m sure you have completed my profile. What do you understand? If it’s not a complete hydrocephalus), but there are 11 times more of these among the javras compared to the rest of mankind), or rather not complete, then we will not see you again. . .
                1. -4
                  9 May 2013 08: 40
                  (sympathetically) that vodka burned in the brain hit? That is OK . To a pickle of bread, it makes it easier.
                  1. Rustiger
                    +3
                    9 May 2013 13: 39
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    To a pickle of bread, it makes it easier.

                    I took a sip. For I have his full cellar. "I feel better" or not, I don't know, because I use "blue", but sooo rarely. Today is just such a case! Which I advise everyone! Preferably from a pot.

                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    (sympathetically)

                    And what a pathos picture! One yavrik (Aron) helpfully helps the other (Atalef) to overcome the Apel-parade ground, and fussily puts him in the stove. It is touching. . .
                    The audience in the hall is sobbing
                    Spielberg receives the award,
                    The box office is going uphill,
                    WITH OUR FESTIVAL !!!!!!!!!!!!
                  2. 0
                    9 May 2013 21: 30
                    Vodovka in Russia has long been no burn. Normal and then until 22-00 sell.
              3. +2
                9 May 2013 21: 46
                atalef! Respected! But honestly, no offense, I was very afraid of that year, in October. When resting in Taba. I went out to the beach in the morning, looked first of all at Israel for smoke over it. Black or white. Information for 2 weeks was scarce. I was afraid if they would cover you all, then it won’t reach us. Fair. I do not lie, it was. The wife still giggles. And when we went to Bethlehem and Jerusalem, I was also a little afraid, as if with my own, it wasn’t covered with Soviet missiles ..... The situation you have is not so hot, but you're used to it! I have no jokes and insults. And in Siberia, although it’s cold, it’s a hundred times calmer. Not for 90 years. And life is no worse than yours. I honestly.
        2. Nitup
          +4
          8 May 2013 13: 35
          Putin has a thousand times more information about everything than ours. Based on this, he acts. We can only make assumptions: why is something wrong and so on.
      2. Chavy
        -2
        8 May 2013 13: 24
        As far as I know, the S-300 in Syria is technically served by Russian specialists
        1. -8
          8 May 2013 13: 43
          Quote: Chavy
          As far as I know, the S-300 in Syria is technically served by Russian specialists

          And where were they?
          1. Chavy
            +1
            8 May 2013 13: 52
            They were in place, only where were your planes? You shot from howitzers, and shamed Russian air defense
        2. +3
          8 May 2013 14: 42
          Quote: Chavy
          C-300 in Syria


          What a news

          Deliveries of the S-300PMU-2 anti-aircraft missile system to Syria, despite the previously concluded contract, have been suspended at the direction of the Russian leadership, June 2012 since then silence.
  5. Rustiger
    +30
    8 May 2013 08: 48
    Izrailovka with her behavior resembles a kind of dickhead kid. Actually, for this it was created by Stalin, and then, when it got out of his control, it was "brought up" and armed with impudent amers. As, supposedly, an "outpost" on the BV, a huge military base designed to influence Arabye in this strategically important region. The role of this "dickhead" is to jump out at a certain moment, to spit with gusto or to stick the sharpener in the side and jump out behind the back of the weighed boys. And the fate of this, was originally laid as unenviable. For certain purposes, ignite a war. The Izrailovka herself always agreed with such a role and in every possible way pushed everything around her against herself. Especially the latest bombing of the Gaza Strip and Syria. Most likely "not the last". Now the Yavras will take on a billion-dollar army, even worse armed, which fanatical Persian ayatollahs will send against it. Then he will howl to the whole world about the "next holocaust", will call on his "starshak" from overseas and will in every possible way "kerosene" them both to Iran and to everyone else, secretly dreaming of "winning" and in the form of reparations to squeeze the territories for themselves and others "nishtyaki". At the same time amerovskoy hands to destroy their main threat - Iran.
    To repeat everything as in the last ten years. There will be either a terrorist attack in the USA with the "discovery" of the guilty Persians, or an attack on one of Nata's ships in the Persian Gulf, or something else of that sort. We will definitely soon see articles in the Western press in order to prepare cattle for the next war, tightening the stranglehold around Iran, and bombing with preliminary "creation of a pilotless zone" and all other related phenomena that we have already seen.
    It is hard to say how other countries will behave. It can be assumed, but with varying degrees of probability. . .
    1. Vasya Ivanov
      0
      8 May 2013 09: 07
      You should only write fairy tales. But sadly, it will be so.
      1. +5
        8 May 2013 09: 41
        a fairy tale - a true story, but a hint in it)))
      2. Rustiger
        +1
        8 May 2013 23: 43
        Quote: Vasya Ivanov
        You should only write fairy tales.

        - "You would not write protocols, but write books, citizen chief."
        - "Well, the Lord did not vouch for me to write books, but I can draw some of the" seen "..."
        / G. Zheglov and "ruchechnik", "And the dawns here are quiet" / what laughing
  6. +8
    8 May 2013 08: 57
    All the same, they decided to attack Iran!
    Well, Israel will fulfill the role of a provocateur !!
  7. +29
    8 May 2013 09: 01
    They will not lag behind Syria ...
    We somehow indistinctly help. Our missile cruiser should be in Tartus. To protect him, an air wing and a security division should be deployed at Damascus Airport. Our Base in Tartus !!!!
    Reconnaissance means and jammers should be involved, because they seized the means of communication in the war *** 888, and it seems like Rosehip is opposing them ... this will deprive the Islamists of operational information))
    if this is not done, the enemy will come to our territory more powerful ...
    but the fact that He will come - I think no one on this site doubts ....
    and then our close and dear People may die from such bombing.
    so it’s necessary to fight There, so the wise commander-in-chief would decide .... the more so. There is already WAR.
    (if he doesn’t want the colonel’s corpse to be dragged along the streets of Moscow)))
    oh ....
    1. +13
      8 May 2013 09: 16
      Quote: Asgard
      Our Base in Tartus !!!!


      Hi Vladimir, it’s more correct to write the marina, there is no base there, there is a logistics point .. everyone pulls the cat for a causal place, the money goes anywhere, to the Olympics, the World Cup but not to the last remaining foreign base.



      1. +18
        8 May 2013 09: 37
        Let it not be a base in Tartus, let it be a logistics point, but even a shed with one cart, this is ours! Finally, there are many Russian citizens in Syria, Syria is a friendly country for us, is it not enough for Russia to have a military presence in Tartus and explicitly declare military support in case of aggression? We would like a tougher position of our leadership and real help to the people of Syria. It is clear that there is no USSR, but they will cease to reckon with silence and inaction in this way, and then the turn will come to Russia.
        1. djon3volta
          +7
          8 May 2013 10: 57
          Quote: Per se.
          I would like a tougher position of our leadership and real help to the people of Syria.


          like that?
          1. WW3
            WW3
            +5
            8 May 2013 12: 31
            And that was really a position. When Khrushchev threatened to show the West "Kuzkin's mother" from the UN rostrum, they did not understand the translation of his threat and what it meant, and this made his threat even more ominous. In support of his words, he also knocked on the podium with his boot.
          2. +3
            8 May 2013 12: 40
            YES! Exactly like this!"
        2. -5
          8 May 2013 12: 41
          Quote: Per se.
          ! Finally, there are many Russian citizens in Syria,

          In Israel, almost 10 times more
          laughing
          1. +7
            8 May 2013 14: 23
            ... only former.
            1. +3
              8 May 2013 16: 47
              Quote: El13
              ... only former.

              in Syria, too, I read somewhere that about 30 thousand women married then still under the Union of Syrian cadets. now officers. During the Union, it was necessary to renounce Soviet citizenship.
            2. +2
              8 May 2013 21: 51
              Quote: El13
              only FORMER.

              Not . real ones. No one has deprived of citizenship. And I have the same Russian citizenship as my passport, which must be updated every 5 years.
              1. 0
                9 May 2013 13: 48
                Anecdote: ... "they will not beat the passport" ... (joke)
                I mostly talk about the various motivations that moved people when moving to different countries. Russian Jews now live here in Russia. There are different motivations, but I'm talking about the bulk of those leaving. If the decision is made - to go to live in another country not because of the husband and wife and not for one of the rare reasons (which you can think of a great many), then if you please be honest with yourself at least - you changed your homeland - it’s not a deadly sin to condemn I won’t be like that, but ... damn it, the thought is spinning, but I can’t voice it.
          2. +3
            8 May 2013 18: 06
            Quote: atalef
            In Israel, almost 10 times more
            Maybe so, only Israel is an ally of the United States, and acts against the friendly Russia of Syria.
            1. -3
              8 May 2013 19: 42
              Quote: Per se.
              Quote: atalef
              In Israel, almost 10 times more
              Maybe so, only Israel is an ally of the United States, and acts against the friendly Russia of Syria.

              Well, Syria is not an ally to Israel, but an enemy. Do you think we will forgive her for supporting Hamas and Hezbollah? I was preparing to fight with the Syrians from 1993 to 2011 for a year, i.e. All years of emergency and reservist service.
              1. +3
                8 May 2013 20: 29
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Do you think we will forgive her for supporting Hamas and Hezbollah?
                I'm not so naive, Aron. It’s your business, whom to consider an enemy, but I won’t be surprised if it ever becomes known that the same Hamas, your friends from Washington secretly encouraged and sponsored.
            2. -3
              9 May 2013 11: 10
              Maybe so, only Israel is an ally of the United States, and acts against the friendly Russia of Syria.


              What is Syria’s friendly attitude towards Russia? Syria is the satellite of Iran, and from Russia it mainly sucks grandmas.
    2. +13
      8 May 2013 09: 27
      Quote: Asgard
      They will not lag behind Syria ...

      And in this regard, the teachings in the Persian Gulf from May 6 to 30 are most alarming to me.
      Israel’s bombing of Syria took place just before the start of the exercises.
      Coincidence? Or links of one chain?
      The answer is unambiguous in my opinion. Planned in advance.
      1. +1
        9 May 2013 12: 51
        Even the correspondents saw the beginning of the attack, the Israelis did everything right, but miscalculated in the response,
  8. +10
    8 May 2013 09: 09
    Israel is a system player! After the destruction of Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Jordan spread its legs in front of the new world order, there are no (!) Arab forces capable of resisting Israel in the region, and unfortunately there were no earlier, the results of all the wars are an example. Yes, the rabid gangs of ardent supporters of Islam will remain, but Israel (not without victims) will cope with them, divide and rule, these are not states and they are fed by the friends of the United States (Israel's ally). At the same time, in the process of confronting Israel, there is an excellent opportunity to "demolish" the Omar Mosque on the Temple Mount. For example, Syria (Iran) responded with rockets to the raids and one or two hit the Omar Mosque, the third most important Sunni shrine (although Shiites also revered it). It is very difficult to prove something in a military mess, plus the mass media will trumpet about the terrible act of the Alawites (Shiites), plus the engagement of the main Sunni states, and what will be the result? Therefore, all of them are the US-Israel-Sunni "monarchies" in this matter, smeared with one world!
    1. +8
      8 May 2013 09: 30
      Quote: Orik
      Syria (Iran) responded with missiles to raids and one or two hit the Omar mosque,

      To the point, Sasha ... They have long dreamed of rebuilding the temple of Solomon, just at the site of the mosque.
      1. -5
        8 May 2013 13: 53
        And show me where the mosque is located? 8)
      2. -2
        8 May 2013 15: 17
        The Golden Dome is a resting place for pilgrims. Al-Aqsa Mosque - this little gray dome. The temple was where the trees are now.
    2. -4
      8 May 2013 12: 42
      Quote: Orik
      At the same time, in the process of confronting Israel, there is a great opportunity to "demolish" the Omar Mosque on the Temple Mount


      and why?
      1. Rioter
        -1
        8 May 2013 13: 31
        What for? Because the dark people, I am sure that all Jews are concerned about such a blizzard as the construction of a new Temple. Of course there are such people, to say that there are most of them, uh ... But yes, everyone has their own fantasies.
        1. -1
          8 May 2013 13: 52
          Jews are concerned about this. But the construction of the Temple is possible without the demolition of Al-Aqsa, and in addition - is delayed by the coming of the Messiah. Only he can build a temple. In addition, most are confident that Al-Aqsa is a golden dome. In fact, it is very aloof, and the golden dome - the Dome of the Rock - is not even a mosque, but simply a resting place for pilgrims.

          But here the guys generally confuse the Omar mosque with the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque
          1. Rioter
            +2
            8 May 2013 14: 24
            Bumpy, did you serve in Nahal Khoredim? Which Jews are concerned about this? A huge number of Israelis are unhappy with the influence of religious people and the latest elections are evidence of this. And what would you like to build a booth on the temple mountain and again slaughter the kids there falling into the barbarism of two thousand years ago? You really amaze me. I thought that the Jews have traveled a long civilizational path since then.
        2. +1
          8 May 2013 16: 44
          Quote: Rioter
          Because the dark people

          Well, finally, at least one enlightened one has appeared! Welcome O "wisest"!
        3. +3
          8 May 2013 18: 47
          Quote: Rioter
          What for? Because the dark people, I am sure that all Jews are concerned about such a blizzard as the construction of a new Temple.


          Well, you dear Rioter, here a few days ago the "dark people" assumed that Israel would again strike at Syria.
          but representatives of that very people convinced us that this could not be.
          that Israel is a peaceful country and is only defending itself.

          now we all see that this ... uh, doesn’t correspond to reality.

          so maybe on the demolition of a mosque you mislead us.
          and (most likely) you yourself don’t know.
    3. -3
      8 May 2013 13: 55
      Do you even understand where the Omar Mosque is located? What part of Jerusalem? And how much from her to the Temple Mount?
    4. -1
      8 May 2013 14: 36
      Quote: Orik
      demolish the "Omar Mosque on the Temple Mount."

      The Mosque of Omar (so for information) does not represent any value of El Aksa - is another matter entirely.
      1. -3
        8 May 2013 14: 39
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: Orik
        demolish the "Omar Mosque on the Temple Mount."

        The Mosque of Omar (so for information) does not represent any value of El Aksa - is another matter entirely.

        Its value is also doubtful. In the Qur'an it is not that she is there and Jerusalem is not mentioned.
        1. 0
          8 May 2013 14: 45
          Quote: professor
          Its value is also doubtful. In the Qur'an it is not that she is there and Jerusalem is not mentioned.


          Professor, well, you can’t let the people like that with one sentence into whom to introduce
          I write that the mosque of Omar is no more important (from the point of view of Islam) than a mosque in some village, and Jerusalem and El Aqsa are not mentioned in the Qur'an - they will not believe, but they will not check (or refute) one solid, silent one howl
          1. 0
            8 May 2013 14: 53
            It has always amazed me how Muslims pray back to the "holy" Al - Aqsa mosque.
            1. 0
              8 May 2013 14: 58
              Quote: professor
              It has always amazed me how Muslims pray back to the "holy" Al - Aqsa mosque.

              Not you alone
              laughing
            2. Rioter
              +2
              8 May 2013 15: 03
              Why all this argument? If in any case, those who determine the position of the Arab League come from business and geopolitical interests. Zealots are just a tool. Neither the Emir of Qatar, Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, nor the King of Saudi Arabia Abdullah Ibn Abdel Aziz, nor the UAE President Khalifa Al-Nahyan, and even more so Beniamin Nitanyahu, are not guided by religious motives in their policies. All of them are ardent pragmatists who pursue very specific geopolitical goals.
              1. TUMAN
                +1
                8 May 2013 16: 24
                Quote: Rioter
                Neither the Emir of Qatar, Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, nor the King of Saudi Arabia Abdullah Ibn Abdel Aziz, nor the UAE President Khalifa Al-Nahyan, and even more so Beniamin Nitanyahu, are not guided by religious motives in their policies. All of them are ardent pragmatists who pursue very specific geopolitical goals.

                You can also add that they are all Jews.
            3. -3
              8 May 2013 15: 15
              Well, Mecca is more important in all priorities. And about the third place in holiness - a very controversial topic, since not all recognize it as such
        2. +4
          8 May 2013 15: 40
          Quote: professor

          Its value is also doubtful. In the Qur'an it is not that she is there and Jerusalem is not mentioned.

          No, well, this is anti-Semitism. It is necessary to demand a rewriting of the Koran.
  9. +3
    8 May 2013 09: 09
    Russia has once again become overwhelmed with air defense systems: first in Yugoslavia, and now in Syria. Apparently, like ostriches, they hide their heads in the sand. They "pander to" crocodiles "in the expectation that they will" eat "us in the last turn" ... Probably, they hope: maybe it will carry us ... Eh, Race! ..
    1. +9
      8 May 2013 09: 19
      Quote: PValery53
      Russia is again tired of air defense systems: first, Yugoslavia, and now Syria. Oh, race! ..

      What does the race have to do with it? What for all, it will be more correct for the Kremlin to crush ....


      1. +11
        8 May 2013 09: 56
        Quote: Vadivak
        What does the race have to do with it?

        Vadim, it’s just that there is such a belief in the world that if someone was attacked, then help can be expected only from Russia, and if Russia didn’t help then ...... Eh, Raseya
        1. +11
          8 May 2013 10: 02
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          help can be expected only from Russia


          I agree. Sasha remembers us only when they are shitty, and before that we are everyone, occupiers, savages, drunkards.
        2. ttttt
          +12
          8 May 2013 10: 32
          Alexander! In my opinion, it’s impossible for someone to whom, and Bashar Assad, to throw such a thing as his father Khasef. They have always been in the same clip with us and have not tarnished themselves with anything in the policy of bilateral friendly relations with Russia. You can say a brotherly country.
          1. +8
            8 May 2013 11: 18
            Quote: tttttt

            ttttt
            (1)

            Today, 10: 32

            ↑ ↓ New


            Alexander! In my opinion, it’s impossible for someone to whom, and Bashar Assad, to throw such a thing, as well as his father Hasef. They have always been in the same clip with us and have not tarnished themselves with anything in the policy of bilateral friendly relations with Russia. You can say brotherly country

            - Respect. Syria under one comb with others, incl. Arab countries why? Syria has never betrayed. Like Cuba, it did not condemn Russia for moving away from Marxist ideas, it took Russia as it is, with all the turmoil inside it.
        3. -3
          8 May 2013 12: 44
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Vadim, it’s just that there is such a belief in the world that if someone was attacked, then help can be expected only from Russia, and if Russia didn’t help then ...... Eh, Raseya

          in Rwanda, the Tutsi attacked Hutu and in 3 weeks they chopped a million. Where was Russia. Why not stand up
          1. +2
            8 May 2013 18: 51
            Quote: atalef
            in Rwanda, the Tutsi attacked Hutu and in 3 weeks they chopped a million. Where was russia


            Was Rwanda an ally of Russia?
            If they find oil in Antarctica tomorrow, should we protect the penguins?
    2. Chavy
      0
      8 May 2013 13: 38
      In general, it is not known exactly where and by what the blow was delivered, the Israelis say that the Air Force is at night, but they cannot be trusted. Probably the blow could also be from howitzers that are on the border, because only 40 km to Damascus. The result of such lies, we can clearly see, ysera questioned the capabilities of the Russian air defense, and everyone began to talk about free or tricky entry through the air at low altitude overcoming air defense. On July 2012, 300, the S-16 shot down the Turkish F-XNUMX. Thus, the Israelis are trying to quarrel Syria with Russia, but also to discredit the Russian defense industry.
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 13: 50
        Quote: Chavy
        In general, it is not known exactly where and by what the blow was delivered, the Israelis say that the Air Force at night, but they can’t be trusted

        Exactly, it was a day out of slingshots and so 2 days in a row

        Quote: Chavy
        The result of such lies, we see very well, ysera questioned the possibility of Russian air defense

        Read above. fool
        Quote: Chavy
        On July 2012, 300, the S-16 was shot down by the Turkish F-XNUMX.

        And here 2 days in a row - and nothing laughing
        Quote: Chavy
        Thus, the Israelis are trying to quarrel Syria with Russia, but also to discredit the Russian defense industry.

        belay
        1. Chavy
          0
          8 May 2013 13: 58
          This version of one American military expert, you can read on VT (veterans today). And I completely agree with this version
          http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/07/war-has-begun/
    3. shpuntik
      +2
      8 May 2013 14: 36
      Our government is not Russian. That’s the whole story.
    4. 0
      8 May 2013 18: 56
      Quote: PValery53
      Oh, race! ..


      Russia will not allow either the United States, Israel, or other states, meaning Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, to overthrow President Assad, and for Israel to properly cut it on its nose. And that in response to this kind of operation [an Israeli strike on Syria], the delivery of the latest Russian military equipment, which includes S-300 and Iskander missiles, will begin in the coming hours, ”an Israeli expert said.

      taken: http://warfiles.ru/show-30560-putin-soobschil-netanyahu-chto-v-siriyu-budut-post
      avleny-s-300.html
  10. +19
    8 May 2013 09: 18
    The Jewish state really REAL! Throwing burning matches into a barrel of gas ... you have to be complete idiots, they are there, not far away. More and more often it seems to me that the most pronounced Nazis in our time are precisely Jews.
    1. Skiff
      +3
      8 May 2013 18: 41
      To a point, they even came up with an excuse for themselves, anti-Semitism, God forbid, you will be blamed for this, drowned in saliva with squirting mouths, even take the second world one, so listen to the world press, then there was only the Holocaust, and the Soviet Union just picked its nose.
  11. ttttt
    +14
    8 May 2013 09: 21
    Already on May 6, it became known that in the Persian Gulf area, full-scale exercises of 41 countries began, including and the US Navy, which will be held until May 30
    Bastards are going to attack. Not Iran, Syria. Persian Gulf and unlocking exercises, just an excuse. The crows flew and circled like over Libya in 2011. No guys, you can't just ward off these vultures, and Russia cannot get involved in a war. Isn't it clear? Here the aim is to drag Russia into this boiler. And further, according to the biblical scenario of the "Battle of the End", where the king of the North must be defeated. In this scenario, they want to substitute Russia for the North.
    Here you need something so that no one from vrazhin will understand what happened and who is to blame, in any other way. If, for example, Israilovka is suddenly washed off into the Mediterranean Sea, and turns the ships over, then what is needed.
  12. +9
    8 May 2013 09: 25
    Who knows how much information is stored in the head of a Jew and after how much it is destroyed ??? I mean that these Jews will unleash right now the 3rd World War, you see already having forgotten about the 2nd Great Patriotic War. After that they will receive snot along with their owners and will remain without their patch of land during the division of territories by the victorious countries.
    1. Chavy
      +2
      8 May 2013 13: 44
      Well, actually these guys from the first world and from the second world got out only in profit, Israel may not become like the 3 Reichs, but they will live and influence the world even more. Perhaps after the plum of Israel, and redistribution, they will receive total control over all.
  13. vania
    +7
    8 May 2013 09: 27
    time .. need to be Jews, the litter of Americans
  14. +8
    8 May 2013 09: 30
    There is a prophecy of Joseph the Great of Vatopedi:

    Prophecies of Elder Joseph of Vatopedi
    AND.:
    We are happy to welcome you. With great respect and bow.
    P.:
    Thank you, father, for accepting us. Now in Russia, time is not good either, on the one hand, and on the other hand, it’s difficult.
    AND.:
    We pray that the Russian people will return to their normal state, which was before the destruction, because we have communes and we are worried about the situation of the Russian people.
    P.:
    Many sorrows, of course. Addiction is everywhere. The degeneration of our nation.
    AND.:
    Now this state of deterioration is a common condition all over the world. And just this state, exactly this limit after which the wrath of God begins. Just we reached this limit. And now it will be that the Lord endured by His grace, and now he will act in truth, punish, because the time has come for it now.
    Б
    There will be war, wars, and we will experience great difficulties. Jews have now seized international power, and their goal is to eradicate Christianity. The wrath of God will be such that all the secret enemies who create this state will be destroyed. Especially for this, the wrath of God is sent in order to somehow destroy them. But this should not frighten us, because we must always have hope in God. Because thousands, millions of martyrs, and also our new martyrs, also suffered, and we must be prepared for this, and not be horrified. Patience, prayer and hope in God's providence should be. We will pray for the revival of our Christianity after this war, after all that awaits us, that the Lord will really give us the strength to revive all this. But this harm must be overcome.
    P.:
    And how quickly will Russia be reborn after this?
    AND.:
    Now it has all begun, now there will be a big explosion. After that there will already be a rebirth.
    P.:
    But many are myrrh-streaming icons. Our blood comes from the icon of the Savior.
    AND.:
    And here in Greece, too, many are myrrh-streaming. They hear that the Savior is crying, and the Mother of God is crying, the icons are crying.
    P.:
    They bring an icon, there is such a clot of blood: a paper icon and such a smell, imagine. Taken for research - this is plasma.
    1. -1
      8 May 2013 14: 35
      Quote: man
      The wrath of God will be such that all the secret enemies who create this state will be destroyed.

      I never believe in a God-destroyer ... If he is God, then either a peacemaker or neutral, otherwise he is a sovereign, and the sovereign is not God. request
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  16. vania
    +3
    8 May 2013 09: 31
    time .. fuck yev.v necessary litter ameikoskoy
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  18. myfutureamerica. org
    -28
    8 May 2013 09: 37
    It is amazing how pure the most primitive anti-Semitism is in the ranks of the public of this magazine. It is surprising, because it seems that meaningful people write, apply logic, technical knowledge, analysis is carried out, disputes occur, etc., but how the topic of Israel touches, and often does not touch, the so-called the intelligentsia shrug off the masks of civilization and fall into a unifying reflex ... those Jews, these Jews, those Israelis, and went for a go ... - of course, only Russia has problems with its borders and their security. Israel has no problems, and if so, it is only through the fault of Israel. And of course, this is not America that will impose its policies on the whole Middle East, but Israel is controlling everyone and everything, and among other things, all the problems that the Russian people have today are connected with the Jews and Israel - well, now it’s easier, really. I am sure that they will add more if I forgot that. Hitler ordered German scientists to refute Einstein's theory of relativity. A pomflet was written, which, as if in a scientific way, rejected this theory and was signed by hundreds of scientists. Einstein replied to this publication: If the refutation were correct, one signature would have been enough.
    So it seems to me this nonsense, which is repeated again and again, Israel, Jews, etc., and who simply insults with not normal words. Of course, it's a shame. Not that it somehow affects the Jewish people - they continue to do their own business, children, science, their young homeland, economy, army, making a significant contribution to world culture and science. And those anti-Semites who think that they are better only because of what they call the Germans, Ile Russians, or some other nation or religion, simply demonstrate to the whole world their backwardness, failure, and are certainly not worthy to call themselves heirs those who laid down their lives in the fight against Nazi Nazism. Happy 9th holiday. May
    1. Phoenix-D
      +12
      8 May 2013 10: 20
      You are our clever man, here people are not so much against Jews as a nation, but against Zionists and Israel as a temporary political entity! Turn on your brains!
    2. +9
      8 May 2013 10: 31
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      It is amazing how much the most primitive anti-Semitism is spread out.


      I have nothing against the people of Israel, but:

      It is amazing how widespread Israeli aircraft are over Syrian territory. And sho they forgot there? Get lost? Not. They fire in the most primitive way and kill people, stupidly explaining this with their interests, without looking at what the neighbor has enough of the bunts.
      How amazing it is that they are not understood, I am simply amazed.
      1. 0
        9 May 2013 13: 12
        They themselves have already answered, WE ARE FIGHTING FOR THE WORLD OF TOMORROW, AND LOSSES FROM THESE ACTIONS ARE FEE FOR THE WORLD
    3. Rustiger
      +4
      8 May 2013 10: 36
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      the most primitive anti-Semitism in the public of this magazine.

      You are clearly beguiled something, foreign. The "anti-Semitic" site is further there, "around the corner". Here are some ZIONISTS, that is, those who do not want to see Yavrsky faces from the screens of their TV-viewers, and do not read vyser like "how do you Russian should live" from their media. And only sometimes to hear about the Ivers, and then in the programs that were twenty-five years ago, like the "International Panorama" by Seyful-Mulyukov and Bovin.
      So remember what is written in the Talmud and "gather on the promised one." Defend the Israeli military in the Golan Heights, not Brighton Beach or Wall Street.
    4. alexanderrus.
      +6
      8 May 2013 11: 12
      The Jew doesn’t care which of the topics / But he argues, as at the station / The Jew does not agree in advance with that / Whatever they say to him.
    5. +11
      8 May 2013 11: 32
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      It is amazing how pure the most primitive anti-Semitism is in the ranks of the public of this magazine.

      - and here is the indignant post with accusations of anti-Semitism laughing laughing In the post above, I suggested that the professor and Pimpled would jump out with these accusations, no, I jumped out "My Future America" ​​and accused, and in exactly the same form as expected laughing And they say Jews are smart laughing Predictable, like three pennies! laughing I don’t understand the Arabs, with such a primitive and predictable reaction, they would long ago have beaten Israel in their geopolitical games. But to see the Arabs are even more "predictable" laughing
      I’ll clarify that this is not about Jews — Lioznova, Wasserman, Perelman, Landau. We love and respect Jews.
      It's about the Zionists. It is about them. Forgive me for coincidence that most of the Zionists are representatives of the Jewish ethnic group. It is the Zionists who lead Israel that we blame for aggression and attempts to unleash a third world war.
      Hotias of those who
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      continue to do their own business, children, science, their young homeland, economy, army, making a significant contribution to world culture and science.

      - we remove only partly the fault - with what fright did they vote for such undetected politicians? Not ashamed of such? One rape their own secretaries, the other unleashes a war against a neighbor. Alas, part of the blame lies with the Jewish people, whatever one may say
    6. DmitriRazumov
      +6
      8 May 2013 11: 59
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      Not that it somehow affects the Jewish people - they continue to do their own business, children, science, their young homeland, economy, army, making a significant contribution to world culture and science. And those anti-Semites who think that they are better only because of what they call the Germans, Ile Russians, or some other nation or religion, simply demonstrate to the whole world their backwardness, failure, and are certainly not worthy to call themselves heirs those who laid down their lives in the fight against Nazi Nazism. Happy 9th holiday. May

      I also congratulate you on this great holiday. But it’s not clear why the Jewish community imposed the concept of the Holocaust on the whole world, thereby securing the symbol of the biggest sacrifice when Russian (Soviet) people died at the hands of the Nazis much more and this is a scientific fact. My grandfather passed Buchenwald and I can assure you that there were not so many Jews there. The bulk of the prisoners were just Russians. Further, Israel, in relations with its neighbors, constantly strives to present itself as a victim, but what we see: the Dutch heights are occupied by Israel, Israel, without declaring war, like the Hitlerites once, inflicts destructive rocket attacks on the territory of a neighboring state, i.e. behaves like a wolf in sheep's clothing, by no means better than the Nazis. Assad is waging a fierce battle against the Islamist scum from around the world, fed by the Saudis and Washington. Although Assad is not a friend of Israel, he is an adequate leader and you can negotiate and do business with him. How will you negotiate with gangs of motley Islamic terrorists if, God forbid, the Assad regime falls? Palestine and its terrorists will seem to you children's toys.
      1. +3
        8 May 2013 12: 53
        Quote: DmitriRazumov
        How will you negotiate with gangs of motley Islamic terrorists if, God forbid, the Assad regime falls? Palestine and its terrorists will seem to you children's toys.

        - a rhetorical question! laughing
        If Israel were really interested in stabilizing around itself and in improving security, now is the most convenient time to put pressure on Assad and come to an agreement with him - Israel provides him with all possible support in the fight against this scum (and the opportunity to help Israel have welfare, starting from specialized ending in political influence in the Arab world and the States), and Assad in the future will limit aid to terrorist organizations, not so sharply raise the issue of the Heights of Heights, and begin to lure Iran so that it reduces the severity of anti-Israeli rhetoric and focuses on confrontation with Sunni monarchies (which is five interesting words for Israel). Assad has nowhere to go now - he will agree.
        But, as we see, Israel showed by its actions that it is interested in the escalation of tension in the Middle East, fraught with a big war. So your question
        Quote: DmitriRazumov
        How will you negotiate with gangs of motley Islamic terrorists if, God forbid, the Assad regime falls?

        - rhetorical cheats.
        It is clear to me - Israel wants a big war. And Israel will receive it. Only then let the Israelis not be offended if the Holocaust-2 emerges as a result of this war, only from the side of the Germans, not the Arabs. Expect to win this war? go to the ladies? If world powers are involved, incl. Russia and China, i.e. countries with other weight categories will not win unambiguously, but they can easily become a bargaining pawn. Honestly, the Israelis thought smarter laughing
        1. -4
          8 May 2013 13: 12
          Quote: aksakal
          Now it’s just the most convenient time to put pressure on Assad and agree with him

          Assad is a lost figure and no one will agree with him, they will not see what he will leave the arena only on this site

          Quote: aksakal
          in the fight against this scum

          rebuilding the entire Islamic world against themselves? Before that they didn’t really like it, and help Assad - hatred for centuries (or a little less)

          Quote: aksakal
          and Assad in the future restricts aid to terrorist organizations, not so sharply raises the issue of the Heights of Heights, and begins to lure on Iran,

          What a fairy tale, right.
          Assad could make peace with Israel 10 times. Get back Golan etc. He chose a different path. Let him tearfully ask, provide guarantees, stop feeding Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc., and cut off ties with Iran. Then let's think. He has a problem, he should go to bow

          Quote: aksakal
          begins to lure on Iran that it would reduce the severity of anti-Israeli rhetoric and focus on the confrontation with Sunni monarchies (which is five interesting words for Israel).

          Not interested. Further - Iran rotates Syria, and not vice versa. By the way, in Syria, 65% are Sunnis, and Assad is avalit.
          1. +4
            8 May 2013 16: 01
            Quote: atalef
            Assad is a lost figure and no one will agree with him, they will not see what he will leave the arena only on this site

            - Either the skis do not ride, or you do not think so, as people think, soar in the clouds laughing Rather, the second. So far, I see that the "lost" Assad is quite successfully crushing the "non-lost" militants laughing
            It is clear that with active military assistance to the Syrian rabble on your part, my dear, Assad will be lost, because there is a difference both in the quality and quantity of weapons, and in the economy ... So call things by their proper names, dear, there are not children sitting here, so and write - "We will displace Asaad anyway, so we want! Our dislike for Assad coincides with the desire of the States to destroy Syria!"
            Quote: atalef
            Assad is a lost figure and no one will agree with him

            - passing it off as an OBJECTIVE PROCESS! it is not an objective process, but very subjective and very provoked by certain forces, namely, the United States oligarchy and its mongrel - Israel. And if so, then another question, is Assad lost? This already depends on the desire of Russia and China, but certainly not on Israel laughing Do not say gop, wait for at least a clear reaction from Russia and China. While Russia analyzes and thinks, China is the same. This is good advice.
            Quote: atalef
            Assad could make peace with Israel 10 times. Get back Golan etc. He chose a different path. Let him tearfully ask, provide guarantees, stop feeding Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc., and cut off ties with Iran. Then let's think. He has a problem, he should go to bow
            - re-read the post. You will have problems. Burning Syria at your side - Assad's problem? Yes, by that time he will be completely indifferent! Calm and predictable Mubarak did not suit Israel? - get the unpredictable present Egypt that he will throw out there tomorrow in an Islamic fervor - one hell knows laughing In Libya, the Amer ambassador has already been killed - this is so many thanks to the amers for the no-fly zone from the Libyans laughing laughing laughing
            Nude nude laughing
            1. +6
              8 May 2013 16: 13
              Quote: atalef
              Not interested. Further - Iran rotates Syria, and not vice versa. By the way, in Syria, 65% are Sunnis, and Assad is avalit

              “I know, you don’t need to teach me.” I just don’t see the massive support of the rabble from the side of the Sunnis, for some reason they are quite satisfied with the despicable Alawite laughing Paradox, and only laughing And about "Iran turns Syria" - I refer to the wonderful English scientist Newton with his apples, more precisely, to his second law "the force of action is equal to the force of reaction." Did you teach at school?
              And anyway - once a fasting post stinks so healthy with such characteristic mercantilism laughing This is how a neighbor got into trouble - instead of a natural impulse, help to begin to calmly ponder over what kind of gesheft is in trouble here to tear off? And this is still in a situation where a hut is burning at a neighbor and the fire is about to spread to your hut, sit and think, and, as it were, to pull more from your neighbor laughing You are incorrigible laughing
              I wonder how you perceive it if we approach the issue of the Holocaust as mercantilely. Instead of natural sympathy, we think that keeping the Holocaust in memory is somehow not very beneficial laughing
            2. -5
              8 May 2013 16: 35
              Maybe that's enough to be rude? Otherwise, I will take into account the words of Mr. Prokhanov and I will call Kazakhstan one of the "Central Asian full-time states." Don't you think that this will cause you just indignation? Then who gave you the right to insult mine?
            3. -1
              8 May 2013 21: 59
              Quote: aksakal
              You will have problems. Burning Syria at your side - Assad's problem? Yes, by that time it will be absolutely a damn thing

              What kind ? If Assad will transmit all of you.

              Quote: aksakal
              Calm and predictable Mubarak did not suit Israel? - get the unpredictable present Egypt that he will throw out there tomorrow in an Islamic fervor - one hell knows

              Well, for now, the Mursi’s Gaz smuggling tunnels presses ten times better than Mubarak. In general, regarding the Islamists, Mursi allows himself something that Mubarak would hardly have decided.


              Quote: aksakal
              In Libya, the Amer ambassador has already been killed - this is so many thanks to the amers for the no-fly zone from the Libyan

              and to us what?
      2. +1
        8 May 2013 14: 10
        Quote: DmitriRazumov
        The Dutch heights are occupied by Israel, Israel, without declaring war, as Hitlerites once, inflicts destructive rocket attacks on the territory of a neighboring state, i.e. behaves like a wolf in sheep's clothing, by no means better than the Nazis.

        Netherlands Heights, Dear. wink They were captured by Israel "without declaring war", since Syria attacked Israel without declaring war and profinked the Golan Heights, and not the Goland ones like Germany Königsberg.
    7. 0
      8 May 2013 12: 28
      Quote: myfutureamerica. org
      but how does the theme of Israel relate

      That is, after all, it was not Israeli planes that bombed?
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  20. +1
    8 May 2013 09: 46
    Yes, the Syrian Swamps. The scenario is neither the same nor the same, only the scale of the world!
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  22. 0
    8 May 2013 09: 50
    Part 2:
    AND.:
    Now the beginning of these events, difficult events, the military. The engine of this evil is the Jews. Their devil forces them to start this, to destroy the seed of Orthodoxy in Greece and in Russia. This will be their main obstacle to world domination. And they will force the Turks to come here to Greece to begin their actions, and Greece, although it has a government, in fact, does not have a government as such. She has no power, and the Turks will come here. This will be the moment when Russia, too, will move its forces to push back the Turks. Events will develop like this: when Russia goes to the aid of Greece, the Americans and NATO will try to prevent this from happening so that there is no reunion, merger of the two Orthodox peoples. Other forces such as the Japanese and others will also excite. On the territory of the former Byzantine Empire there will be a big massacre. Only the dead will be about 600 million people. The Vatican will be strongly involved in all this in order to prevent the growing role of Orthodoxy and such a reunion. It will be a time of complete destruction of the Vatican influence to its very foundations. Thus will the Providence of God turn.
    P.:
    Sure. There are all prerequisites for this, all these events. But also that there is such a confrontation in the media. The hierarchs of the world ... (inaudible) ... And how long will the president keep this line, is he good now?
    AND.:
    There will be an allowance of God that those who sow these temptations, pornography, drug addiction be destroyed. And the Lord will so blind their minds that they will destroy each other with gluttony. The Lord will allow this on purpose to conduct a great purge. As for Putin, this time will not be long, and there will be a war immediately, and he will not be long. But after this great purge, there will be a great revival of Orthodoxy, not only in Russia, but around the world, such a surge of Orthodoxy. The Lord will give His grace, grace, as it was at the beginning in the first centuries. When people with an open heart went to the Lord. This will last 3-4 decades, then the dictatorship of the Antichrist will quickly come. These terrible events that we must go through, let them not terrify us, because the Lord will cover his. Yes, indeed, we will survive difficulties, hunger, and even persecution and much more, but the Lord will not leave us alone. And those who are in power should force their subjects to be with the Lord more, stay more in prayer, and the Lord will cover their own. The state that will be after the cleaning will be a great rebirth.


    we, as shepherds, must keep as many people as possible from sin, so that the grace of God will not leave us. To be as close as possible to God, to repentance, and prayer. Then the Lord is always with us, no matter how difficult the circumstances. The Lord will not leave us. It is necessary that we keep ourselves and keep our people.
    1. 0
      8 May 2013 20: 19
      Quote: man
      Part 2:


      since you are fond of predictions
      I advise - V. Simonov Russia after 2012
  23. +2
    8 May 2013 09: 54
    Jews are financed from the United States, if the United States had not funded them long ago, and so they are taking Fin. help are forced to "dance" to the tune of the United States and this tune will lead them to the monastery, has already started.
    1. SCS
      SCS
      +5
      8 May 2013 11: 55
      Quote: Fregate
      Jews are financed from the USA, if the USA hadn’t financed them, they trampled them for a long time,


      and you think the finances in the us are not the Jews own?))
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 12: 50
        Quote: SCS
        and you think the finances in the us are not the Jews own?))

        I do not think, but I know that the Jews. But did I write about who owns what there?
  24. +8
    8 May 2013 10: 01
    The Israeli regime has made possible and fair retaliatory strikes on its territory. Nationalists in power always lead to war. Only an international boycott can moderate the aggressive fervor of the Israeli authorities, but as long as the States are influenced by the Jewish lobby, this is completely impossible.
  25. Kuzkin Batyan
    +13
    8 May 2013 10: 07
    News from Farsnews:

    Tehran (FNA) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while in Shanghai, received a sharp reprimand from Russian President Vladimir Putin with a warning that Russia will not tolerate further Israeli attacks on Damascus and will react.

    Putin did not say how, but he announced that he had ordered accelerated deliveries of advanced Russian weapons to Syria.

    Israeli military sources Debkafile revealed that the Russian leader was referring to the C-300 system and the Iskander (SS-9 Stone according to NATO classification) capable of carrying the 720K26 nuclear warheads, which are sufficiently accurate to hit a target within a meter radius at a distance of 5 kilometers .

    In his phone call to Netanyahu, the Russian leader advised the prime minister to be sure of this and to bear this in mind.

    Since the Syrian air defense teams have already been trained in Russia to handle the C-300 systems, they can be commissioned as soon as they land as a result of one of the daily Russian air traffic to Syria. Russian representatives will monitor their deployment and prepare them for work.

    Moscow is responding not only to the Israeli air operations against Syria, but also in anticipation of the impending decision of the Obama administration to send the first arms shipments to the Syrian rebels.

    Intelligence agencies in Moscow and the Middle East accept as obvious that by the time Washington makes public this decision, some Syrian rebel factions will already be armed with American weapons.

    The fact that the measure was put into operation was shown by the introduction on Monday of the chairman of the US Senate Committee on Foreign Relations Bob Menendey legislation allowing the US to provide weapons and military training to Syrian rebels.

    US military instructors have been working with Syrian rebels in training camps in Jordan and Turkey for several months. Thus, providing them with weapons depended only on a decision in Washington, the Israeli website claims.

    Putin’s message to Netanyahu was intended to reach a wider audience than Jerusalem — also Barack Obama in Washington and Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing on the eve of talks with Netanyahu there on Tuesday.
    1. 0
      8 May 2013 12: 48
      Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
      Tehran (FNA) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, while in Shanghai, received a sharp reprimand from Russian President Vladimir Putin warning that Russia would not tolerate further Israeli attacks on Damascus and would react.

      Iranian tales.

      Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
      Putin did not say how, but he announced that he had ordered accelerated deliveries of advanced Russian weapons to Syria.

      Israeli military sources Debkafile revealed that the Russian leader had in mind the S-300 systems and capable of carrying 9K720 Iskander nuclear warheads (SS-26 Stone according to NATO classification), which are accurate enough to hit a target within a 5-7 meter radius at a distance of 280 kilometers .

      even bigger tales

      Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
      Putin’s message to Netanyahu was intended to reach a wider audience than Jerusalem — also Barack Obama in Washington and Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing on the eve of talks with Netanyahu there on Tuesday.

      where this message can be found. In addition to the Iranian newspaper and your speculation
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 21: 00
        Quote: atalef
        atalef (


        http://warfiles.ru/show-30560-putin-soobschil-netanyahu-chto-v-siriyu-budut-post

        avleny-s-300.html

        maybe it will help you
        1. -1
          8 May 2013 22: 03
          Quote: Rider
          maybe it helps you

          What is this bullshit? You think me for a child.
          One blogger wrote - a worthy source laughing
          1. 0
            8 May 2013 22: 31
            Quote: atalef
            One blogger wrote - a worthy source


            I certainly do not insist on the veracity of information

            HOWEVER, maybe you missed

            from there:A video recording appeared on the Internet from one of the ISRAELI TV channels, where an ISRAELI political analyst claims that Russian experts deliberately leaked a conversation between Vladimir Putin and the Israeli Prime Minister, arguendi blogger wrote about this.
            1. -2
              9 May 2013 08: 38
              Quote: Rider
              A video recording appeared on the Internet from one of the ISRAELI TV channels, where an ISRAELI political analyst claims that Russian experts deliberately leaked a conversation between Vladimir Putin and the Israeli Prime Minister, arguendi blogger wrote about this.

              And what is this channel? Who would have suggested. In Israel, one Russian-speaking channel (Israeli) is definitely not from there. You would still refer to Debka. OBS is such that even Anna-News rests.
              Separate the grains from the chaff.
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  27. knyazDmitriy
    +32
    8 May 2013 10: 16
    JOKE!
    Children were born to a German, Russian and Jewish woman, they were confused in the hospital. mothers thought how to find their own, a German woman comes up to the children: "High Hitler", one kid lifted his head with a handle, a German woman takes it.
    the Russian approaches, takes another child and leaves in silence. The Jewess is like, "why did you take this one?"
    Russian: "When the German woman said Hi Hitler, the kid clenched his fists, and yours crap."
  28. 0
    8 May 2013 10: 17
    Quote: Nayhas
    Quote: avant-garde
    Maybe this is why Syria is not yet waiting for the arrival of our technology.

    Yes, you are one of those who believe that it is enough to bring S-300/400 and that’s all, the sky is clear? To create reliable air defense, a common radar field is needed, a network of airfields with duty groups of fighters is needed, this is in addition to air defense systems. For all this, the most important thing is, PREPARED AND TRAINED PERSONNEL! Where will Assad take them? Will order accelerated weekly courses?

    And where did you see C 300 / C400 in my post ??? It is written there by a serious and combat-ready air defense system.
  29. Phoenix-D
    +2
    8 May 2013 10: 21
    I wonder where the Professor is, where is this clown who claimed that Israel is "a friend of Syria"?
    1. Rustiger
      +9
      8 May 2013 10: 48
      Quote: Phoenix-D
      I wonder where the Professor is, where is this clown

      Do not wait. According to my many years of observation, they rarely climb on such topics (usually there are yavra who do not live in Israel itself), but only look with a dull look, only occasionally meet for provocative trolling.
      But the news from Russia from the category "how bad everything is here" ("preferably" with human sacrifices), causes these ghouls to have an attack of "wild appetite" and they flock to * ovno like fat green flies, rubbing their shaggy paws with their big-eyed thorns behind thick glasses of spectacles. Plucking twitching segmental noses-trunks into everyone who only "dares" to sympathize with people in trouble, and enjoying what they (so far) escaped.
  30. +3
    8 May 2013 10: 27
    Well, NATO has taken the first step towards a full-scale invasion. If Russia and China (which is unlikely) urgently do not undertake something, then the Khan of Syria.
  31. KoRSaR1
    +4
    8 May 2013 10: 33
    When Hitler "lit" all over Europe, it was nafig to attack the USSR, well, he would have burned further, they would have lived right now, without the Americans, Britons, Jews, who knows how it would have developed if it had not attacked the USSR.
  32. +7
    8 May 2013 10: 44
    Lord Lord:
    You know, my wife has a Jewish lover.
    What about you ???
    I became the lover of his wife.
    So you are even.
    Aha. I "rivet" his lords, and he gave me Jews ...
    PS Carthage (I apologize) ZIONISM must be destroyed!
    1. 0
      12 May 2013 03: 29
      according to Jewish laws - only one who is born of a Jewess is counted as a Jew. Wrong lord lol
  33. +4
    8 May 2013 10: 44
    I support the author of the article. The war has already begun, although no one has declared it. It would be strange to think that after June 22, someone will announce it. The ideology of Zionism does not provide for this (Talmud and Shulchan Aruch). Whatever wrapper you wrap it in, it turns out all the time the same thing. Russia at this time needs to help the Syrians, even if it would not hurt to throw information and weapons. Not because the Arabs are great friends to us, but because our "Western partners" "there are big plans. It would be very necessary to disrupt them, otherwise it will be more difficult for us to cope with the underpopulation. (I think that no one forgets about the likelihood of direct aggression against us, everyone has a pink veil from their eyes).
  34. Rustiger
    +3
    8 May 2013 11: 06
    I’m sorry, dear comrades, but I will obsessively advise you to this blog -

    http://evavalid.blogspot.ru/

    Follow the parallel links, learn a lot of new and informative. The author of the blog, a lady from Ukraine, in my opinion, has put together a good collection that directly echoes the themes of VO and the opinions of the majority of those present (there are reports about Syria).
    Leave comments, who will be interested I can give her box. She will send and "abruptly".
  35. djon3volta
    0
    8 May 2013 11: 10
    Scenario of the third world


    The impending war with Syria is just an introductory action. The main act, after the conquest of Syria, will include an attack by the USA and Israel, and possibly England, on Iran. Iran is a trophy needed by the old Fed guard to hold its dead grip on the global economy. At first glance, an attack on Iran seems to be a good idea if it allows us to preserve our economy. However, the risks associated with choosing this course of action are astronomical.

    I do not think that China will attack the United States in the Middle East, at least not the first. I expect the Chinese to go to Taiwan and allow the North Koreans to launch their nuclear missiles in Japan. There is a possibility that Russia could further invade the United States through Alaska.

    continued read yourself http://mixednews.ru/archives/36046
    1. WW3
      WW3
      +2
      8 May 2013 12: 20
      Inevitably, if the Assad regime falls, then Iran will follow Syria, since oil, like Libya, was the main target in Africa in a series of "Arab revolutions", and Iran in the Middle East. But it is absolutely correct that China will not only observe here, since it is the main importer of Iranian oil. And Iran is very close to Russia, and the ABM + NATO scenario in the Caspian is not very rosy.
    2. +2
      8 May 2013 13: 48
      Quote: djon3volta
      I expect the Chinese to go to Taiwan and allow the North Koreans to launch their nuclear missiles in Japan.

      For China, such a measure can only be secondary - it will not add to it the energy resources necessary for the economy.
  36. Bandera
    +4
    8 May 2013 11: 16
    Well, brothers Slavs, has it begun? The truth began a long time ago, but the active phase has only recently been launched.
    1. +2
      8 May 2013 13: 50
      Quote: Bandera
      Well, brothers Slavs, has it begun? The truth began a long time ago, but the active phase has only recently been launched.

      What are we going to do with our Jews? smile
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        1. toldanger
          0
          8 May 2013 19: 53
          I was in this town when I was still serving. Their quantity is alarming. In general, the criminal environment there was very serious in the 80s. As the Jewish mafia now says.
          But all the same, Odessa-mother, in my opinion, will be cooler.
      2. toldanger
        0
        8 May 2013 19: 51
        Which the GKChP always did ... :) That is what they deserve.
        I am glad that their curly heads have someone to cut ... Salafi brothers love to do this.
  37. Ruslan_F38
    +2
    8 May 2013 11: 25
    You do not need to be seven spans in your forehead to understand all these actions are aimed at the destruction of NATO opponents. First, a trial of forces in Iraq and Libya, then a full-scale war in Syria and Iran, and then Russia, and China in turn - as a result, the solution of all issues with the world's overpopulation, lack of energy resources, food, water, and most importantly, the new world regime controls everything and all! Here, not two birds with one stone are killed, but a whole flock! I hope this plan will not be destined to come true, but for this we need tough and consistent actions to protect Syria and Iran from Russia and China, maybe the other BRICS countries, and not the miserable political bleating of our leadership!
  38. +7
    8 May 2013 11: 26
    Furious at the end of izi. Let's hope that really specialists from Syria have already been trained in Russia and air defense systems will be supplied. Although we, apparently, it's time to breed a pair of their armored train, which stands on the siding.
    1. SCS
      SCS
      +3
      8 May 2013 12: 17
      Quote: stock buildbat
      ... Although, apparently, it is time for us to breed pairs of our armored train, which stands on the siding.


      this is indisputable, but this is most likely the way, and the train itself does not leave the field of view of enemy satellites!
      therefore, quietly, in owls mode secrecy, it is necessary to create such trains and let them romp through their native expanses! and after that you can open such a trump card!
  39. shtabs
    -2
    8 May 2013 11: 28
    those who "shout" that something will happen this summer, they shouted the same thing for the spring-summer 2010,2011,2012, the analysts are damn crappy, and if you add the previous predictors here, you finally get some kind of program schedule: Soooo, what will I watch today? aha! the destruction of Israel, the Europe will be flooded, the torch from the Statue of Liberty will be visible from the omeriki current, the rest is a flood, the tropics in the Urals ... bully
  40. 0
    8 May 2013 11: 54
    It is not sad, but the campaign is the beginning of the 3rd World War.
  41. Armagor
    +3
    8 May 2013 11: 55
    Fedor: - And how does their Jewish brother live?
    VVP: - Ivan, show us as soon as possible!
    Once again, having sighed sadly directly into the chamber, Ivan breathes a sigh of relief and soars again under the skies, and, guided by his guided landmarks alone, flies straight towards the sacred hail, because of the sanctity of which so much human has already been shed and, apparently, not holy blood. When approaching, however, it turns out that the sky over Jerusalem is densely covered with black and gray clouds, lightnings sparkle here and there, illuminating the dark sky, and heavy rain has already begun to drip. In the chamber there is once again heard roofing felts, malicious swearing, roofing felts of Ivan’s caustic laugh, and she, the camera, begins to be covered with the most alive and wet drops of moisture. Then, however, the operator’s hand flashes in front of the viewers, which, in all its immense power, easily wipes the camera by itself, and unequivocally exposes everyone to their thumb, lifted vertically upward. Another five seconds elapses and a shocking unprepared contemplator opens up before looking at the screens of their TV sets: it is clearly visible how huge masses of people gathered in front of the so lamentably famous Wailing Wall and in some drunken frenzy, more, however, reminiscent of frenzied despair, bang their heads about this same deplorable wall. They do not beat very hard, however, since not one of them, as far as the eye can see, can even see traces of a strong blow from the forehead. Muffled sounds of “bom!” accompanied by high cries of “Ay!”, “Oh!” and even “Oh time, yes again!” fill the space. The picture is reminiscent of an attempt at universal public repentance in a way that is not the most original. Moisture dropping on the pavement completes the deplorable picture of crying.
    VVP.: - Look, friend, at the crying wall - I have not seen the world of such a srach!
    Fedor: - Wow! Baska, against the wall ?! I see a change in the Jews!
    VVP: - Everyone in a frenzy is already fighting, and the crocodiles are shedding tears ...
    Fedor: - The fire of heaven fell on the city, our Jewish friend is not happy about that?
    VVP: - I considered all the money, but before the deadline ... a wave of them is waiting for another stream.
    Fedor: - Water and fire will clean them, since the spirit of the calf in them has not died down.
    VVP: - What do you think about them, friend - can it be voiced aloud?
    Fedor: - My opinion is no offense - that there are Jews and there are Jews.
    VVP: - And there are wolves among sheep ...
    Fedor: - And in the USA they have shotguns!
    VVP: - Their guns will not help them, everything will fall into their own trap.
    - 123 -
    Fedor: - Taurus where people serve brightly, can it get terribly hot there?
    VVP: - Those can sunburn strongly, whose speech is mocking in life.
  42. +1
    8 May 2013 11: 56
    Ahrenenye Americans are trying to unleash a war with the wrong hands! Here's the ki!
    1. +2
      8 May 2013 11: 58
      Quote: Nitarius
      Ahrenenye Americans are trying to unleash a war

      And they always do that! When amers themselves start the war, a circle of continuous embarrassment comes out.
  43. +3
    8 May 2013 11: 57
    Syria and Israel have always had a difficult relationship, Syria did not hide the negative attitude towards Israel. Now, Syria’s code is difficult, when the question of preserving its statehood was raised, Israel provided secret assistance to the militants, and now it’s beating out of silence from the airspace of another state - Lebanon. Public opinion does not mean anything. The UN is silent. Aggressor greets.
  44. dc120mm
    +1
    8 May 2013 11: 58
    Eeeh, not so :(
  45. +2
    8 May 2013 12: 22
    Good day to all! Happy Great Victory Day !!!

    And you noticed at what time the raid was carried out and on the eve of what events?
    To deliver a missile strike on Easter night is in itself a savory spit in the direction of Russia.
    For what purpose? 1. It is more painful to hook Russia. 2. Provoke a retaliatory strike by Syria.
    And all this on the eve of Kerry’s visit to Moscow, where one of the main issues on the agenda was a peaceful settlement of the Syrian problem. Surely Israel didn’t make such a decision on its own, it was done at the suggestion of the hawkish wing of American politicians, those who lobby for the law on the supply of weapons to militants and push Obama to open intervention in Syria, tossing fake information about Assad's use of chemical weapons. Many were waiting for harsh statements from Russia or (even worse) Assad’s military response. And then the negotiations in Moscow would be disrupted.
    Gentlemen "hawks" did not wait! The negotiations took place - a course towards a peaceful settlement! Of course, it’s too early to rejoice, there is a long winding road with bumps ahead to the world, where many people have accumulated on the sidelines who want to throw a spoke in the wheels of the peace process.
    I think that nothing is forgotten and no one is forgotten. The time will come and the provocateurs will be fully rewarded.
    1. -5
      8 May 2013 12: 32
      Quote: Tarpon
      To deliver a missile strike on Easter night is in itself a savory spit in the direction of Russia.

      weird? Syria is an Orthodox country?
      Quote: Tarpon
      Gentlemen "hawks" did not wait! The negotiations took place - a course towards a peaceful settlement!

      with or without Assad, check Kerry's position.
      1. +1
        8 May 2013 13: 11
        Quote: atalef
        weird? Syria is an Orthodox country?

        Syria is a secular state, but about 10% of the population are Orthodox Christians and Orthodox Easter is a public holiday in Syria.
        Syria is one of the few countries in the world where all religions are respected.
        Intolerance towards "non-state religions" is flourishing in Israel, and a struggle is waged against Orthodoxy, almost at the state level. How would you comment on this inscription on an Orthodox church?
        1. -2
          8 May 2013 13: 17
          Quote: Rebus
          How do you comment on this inscription in an Orthodox church?

          It is written - Death to Christians. There are enough freaks everywhere, they still write - death to the Arabs, and those in response to death - to the Jews. In Russia, such inscriptions do not exist?

          Quote: Rebus
          Orthodox Easter is a public holiday in Syria.

          Is not, do not lie

          Quote: Rebus
          Intolerance towards "non-state religions" is flourishing in Israel, and a struggle is waged against Orthodoxy, almost at the state level.

          Do not lie.
          1. +2
            8 May 2013 14: 49
            Quote: atalef
            Freaks enough everywhere


            Too bad not everyone understands this, with the upcoming Sasha drinks
            1. +2
              8 May 2013 14: 56
              Quote: Vadivak
              Too bad not everyone understands this, with the upcoming Sasha

              And you too. This is a great day and a great holiday. hi drinks
          2. +1
            8 May 2013 15: 11
            Quote: atalef
            Is not, do not lie

            Here are all the holidays of Syria
            http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D1%E8%F0%E8%FF#.D0.9F.D1.80.D0.B0.D0.B7.D0.B4.D0.B

            D.D0.B8.D0.BA.D0.B8
            1. +1
              8 May 2013 22: 13
              Quote: Rebus
              Here are all the holidays of Syria

              This is not a public holiday. Just Christians on this day have the right not to go to work (paid day)
              Like us, Christians walk their holidays, their Muslims. Jews of their own - there is a list of these holidays that the state pays for various faiths as a working day. But state. holiday - which is the same for everyone (day off) - probably only one - Independence Day.
              We even go to school for different faiths in different ways. Christians rest on Sunday. Jews on Saturday, Muslims on Friday.
              Arabs (one truth _ in my department celebrates his holidays and if he wants he can work in ours, but he also has a rest. (Unfortunately we don’t have such a privilege, we work in Muslim travelers)
              So, Easter in Syria is not a public holiday. request
          3. +2
            8 May 2013 16: 59
            Quote: atalef
            In Russia, such inscriptions do not exist?

            Unfortunately there are worse! Some sawn crosses are worth what, scum and we have enough.
        2. -6
          8 May 2013 13: 59
          Yes, it is ridiculous how a person transfers his idea of ​​how he would arrange the world, transfers his hatred and intolerance to others, and at the same time considers himself a Christian - completely rejecting all the dogmas of Christianity by his behavior.
        3. 0
          8 May 2013 18: 51
          Syria is a secular state, but about 10% of the population are Orthodox Christians and Orthodox Easter is a public holiday in Syria.
          Syria is one of the few countries in the world where all religions are respected.


          If you are so worried about Christians, then ask what happened to the Lebanese Christians, who once had a majority in this country.
          Incidentally, Papa Assad (the best friend of the USSR) is head over heels in Christian blood.
  46. -1
    8 May 2013 12: 30
    The range of Syrian air defense systems allows destroying targets outside the Syrian airspace, including and over part of the territory of Lebanon, however, the range of Israeli air-to-ground missiles allows you not to enter the danger zone.

    Already this fact alone makes one wonder who needs such air defense. Moreover, the missiles were launched 10 km from the border (as they say), it is 50 km from Damascus. Good air defense 50 km from the capital 20 aircraft can not track And so 2 days in a row.
    1. +12
      8 May 2013 13: 07
      Quote: atalef
      Already this fact alone makes one wonder who needs such air defense. Moreover, the missiles were launched 10 km from the border (as they say), it is 50 km from Damascus. Good air defense 50 km from the capital 20 planes can’t track And so 2 days in a row

      - Well, the petals of the distribution of e / magn. The waves of obsolete Syrian radar stations are probably thoroughly studied by the Israelis, they are probably flying below these lobes, and even in the conditions of jamming. According to reports on the internet, the Syrians managed to intercept just one missile.
      Atalef, are you seriously proud of the fact of this aggression?
      So be proud - this problem can be solved simply - just put a couple of good air defense systems complete with a Krasukha-type jamming system and a Kolchuga-type covert surveillance system, and let's see how you will be proud of the beautiful wreckage of your aircraft. After all, you will really jump.
      1. -7
        8 May 2013 13: 24
        Quote: aksakal
        Well petals spread e / magn. The waves of obsolete Syrian radar stations are probably thoroughly studied by the Israelis, they are probably flying below these lobes, and even in the conditions of jamming.

        Of course, do you want them to walk, and even warned for a week?
        Quote: aksakal
        According to reports on the internet, the Syrians managed to intercept just one missile.

        Yes ? Do you have debris? But they started so beautifully, a plane was shot down, 2 pilots in captivity


        Quote: aksakal
        Atalef, are you seriously proud of the fact of this aggression?

        I am proud of the professionalism of the military, intelligence, and politicians who were not afraid to make a decision.
        Quote: aksakal
        So be proud - this problem can be solved simply - it is enough to put a couple of good air defense systems complete with an interference suppression system of the "Krasukha" type and a covert surveillance system of the "Kolchuga" type, and

        Well, so what's the deal?
        Quote: aksakal
        After all, you really jump.

        Good luck.
  47. +4
    8 May 2013 12: 30
    The Israeli army is truly combat-ready and ready for military action against the countries of the Middle East, but this Army is for the most part a myth. Namely, thanks to the support of the USA, Israel threatens and neglects all the norms of international law and behaves like an overly hooligan. The Israelis are so deeply self-confident in their abilities that this brings them to the abyss ... Tiger Sherkhan - USA and Jackal Tabaki - Israel - a sweet couple, and one thing and the other are related by one: bloodthirstiness and hatred of all living things.
    1. smprofi
      +3
      8 May 2013 13: 30
      Quote: ioann1
      but this Army is for the most part a myth.

      patriotism, hatred of Jewish aggressors can and are good things. only now I wouldn’t categorically belittle the army, which had nevertheless proved to its neighbors that it should be reckoned with.
      Well ... don't forget, for example, that the BDK-151 Azov is in Haifa. and kind of like a friendly visit

      1. +5
        8 May 2013 15: 11
        That's it, exactly ... what ... Why would it be peremptory? The Nazis were also considered, but they were defeated! Although the Army was what it was, everyone was enslaved. The army then inspires respect when it defends, not attacks. The Israeli army will always attack, because in its ideological basis its superiority over other peoples and hatred of a great ideology. The Israelis are not as tolerant as they demand from others in relation to themselves. And they were friends with the Nazis until the 41st, and then they went to the USSR without declaring war ... And your vocabulary is very familiar. Right Echo of Moscow ...
        1. smprofi
          +5
          8 May 2013 16: 08
          Quote: ioann1
          Right Echo of Moscow ..

          Oh! Well, thank you!
          in the fall of the 73rd, through our garrison they drove MiGs to Egypt. The runway resembled the deck of an aircraft carrier on a flight day. I was sure that Israel was an aggressor.
          in 79, my father introduced me to his new colleagues who were "advisers" in Syria (see below). and again I was convinced that Israel was the aggressor.
          then, it somehow "turned out" that the Yom Kippur War was started not by the Jewish aggressors, but ... peaceful Egypt and the same peaceful Syria. and having a numerical superiority in forces, the Arabs happily pissed away everything. and if it were not for the supply of Soviet equipment and the help of "advisers", then everything could have ended even worse than it ended.
          I am not a fan of the Jews. more precisely, not so: I treated them absolutely calmly, like any other nation. but for a long conversation with representatives of this people they me still yes, still convincedthat nothing good should be expected from them. although it can start very well. but the "friendly team" (at different times and in different composition) somewhere out of 20 people convinced me of the idea that I have now stopped at: rotten people.

          it's time to start singing praises to the Arabs ... but I won't. for he also had experience of communication with them, for the most part they were just Syrians. these are even worse: they do not understand an even state, i.e. when everyone is equal. no. if you try to be on an equal footing with them, then they perceive it as weakness and begin to be rude and greedy. everything is straightened out very simply: you put it in place and crush it under yourself. you can morally, you can simply: a blow to the scent. when you are the "master" - everything is fine. Arabs are white and fluffy. but don't turn your back on them (figuratively).

          in general ... templates and slogans are all wonderful. only the head must sometimes not only eat.
        2. smprofi
          +1
          8 May 2013 16: 33
          Quote: ioann1
          Israeli army will always attack

          well and appendages. now, of course, it is difficult to figure out who is more right / guilty in the Arab-Israeli conflict. who "started first" and "who is just defending."
          I can only recall that the Soviet Union had a hand in the creation of the state of Israel. and with the sanction of Stalin, a stream of captured weapons from Europe went to Israel after the Second World War. and if it were not for the "Doctors' Plot" that spoiled Stalin's relationship with the leaders of Israel, it is not yet known who would have continued to arm the Soviet Union. Arabs or Israel.
          Well, a little the same how it all began in the "good times": Fields of kibbutz Mishmar aEmek.



          armored plates on a tractor, helmets and screw cutters - that's a sure thing to make the furrow better. is not it?
          1. 0
            8 May 2013 17: 08
            And where are the armor plates to hang here?
            [media=http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/2708/alphot.3/0_23e0_4aca434_XL]
            1. smprofi
              0
              8 May 2013 17: 16
              Quote: Hedgehog
              And where are the armor plates to hang here?

              Oh! but where is the silhouette of Merkava in the background or the shadow from the AH-64 Apache / F-16 Falcon? It was necessary to finish for more convincing.

              Ezhaak, you slammed a minus? try hard. enough mind for the minus, but how to insert a photo - no laughing
              1. 0
                8 May 2013 17: 20
                Why place in a forum? Literate and so will look.
                As a rule, I give ratings only to the articles with which the conversations begin.
  48. Alexander D.
    0
    8 May 2013 12: 31
    They wrote on this and other resources that Syria has strengthened its air defense with the help of Russia. I don’t understand: either they strengthened xp @ new, or Russia's air defense systems are so much outdated ??? request
    1. Maitre
      -1
      11 May 2013 19: 44
      I don’t want to upset you, but the second assumption is correct ... And if Putin supplies Syria with S-300s, it will be a big mistake, because our Air Force can easily cope with the S-300s, but after that sell "a unique, analogs of the S-300 or S-400 will be extremely difficult for Moscow
  49. -1
    8 May 2013 12: 39
    Quote: atalef
    Good air defense 50 km from the capital 20 aircraft can not track And so 2 days in a row.

    I would be very worried in the place of Israel, because there will soon be very good air defense and your 20 planes (as they are called by ezrailki) will not only be tracked, but also shot down. And then they will check your iron dome when the Syrian missiles fly to give you a kumpol.
    1. 0
      8 May 2013 13: 26
      Quote: avant-garde
      I would be very worried about the place of Israel, because there will soon be very good air defense and your 20 planes (as they are called by ezrailki) will not only be tracked, but also shot down. And then they will check your iron dome when the Syrian missiles fly to give you a kumpol.

      wait and see. Life is such a thing - now on a horse, then under a horse.

      tongue
  50. smprofi
    +3
    8 May 2013 13: 15
    There are not many Russian complexes in Syria

    what are you saying! Let's start with the fact that not Russian, but Soviet.

    1. 0
      8 May 2013 14: 19
      In the first photo, the Chinese radar.
      1. smprofi
        +2
        8 May 2013 14: 31
        frankly, broke to look for a photo of a year ago, but there were photos with "rebels" against the background of launchers and TPM with missiles.
        recently, the CM broke out with a "sensation" that allegedly a Russian passenger plane had been fired upon in the sky over Syria. as "proof", the journalists cite a video with missile system SNR-125M
        in the hands of the "free Syrian army"



        actually TZM. from what sense 0
    2. +4
      8 May 2013 15: 19
      Quote: smprofi
      Arabs never really knew how to fight.


      It’s strange, but here, in my opinion, not everyone understands that they are not warriors, and the veteran guys in 83 (during the service) told me how Arabs sold them in Egypt in the 70s, their allies are bad, no Israeli drones are needed then were all known from the Arabs
      1. smprofi
        +1
        8 May 2013 16: 36
        Vadivak, you know ... well, people are used to slogans. "senior" said - so it is so. it's easier to live this way
  51. +3
    8 May 2013 13: 28
    The fact that an Israeli air raid on Syrian military targets is an act of aggression is unambiguous, and double aggression because the strike was carried out from the territory of another sovereign country, Lebanon. At the same time, I would separate the flies from the cutlets. Objectively, Israel is not at all interested in the fall of the Assad regime, because... risks getting, instead of one, albeit not entirely friendly, but quite predictable person who could hold Syria in his hands, an uncontrollable mass of bandit individuals who know nothing but kill, do not want to and do not obey anyone / And such a scenario does not smile at all on Israel . Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and the currently unpredictable Egypt are more than enough for him. Therefore, all that Israel is currently trying to do is to somehow prevent these and other bandits, for example Hezbollah, from falling into the hands of weapons systems that, after the start of their combat use, will be much more difficult to fight. The experience of the last Lebanese war showed this very convincingly, especially since Israel tries to the best of its ability to carry out “precision” strikes on military targets of the opposing side, this side does not bother itself with such troubles, hits squares and hides behind women’s skirts and children’s undershirts.
    I’m not a beast, but if I were the leader of a sovereign country, in which the cities of my country are being shelled from a neighboring territory or from a part, albeit “strongly autonomous,” then I would regard this as an act of war, and then .... on war, as in war. Those. soak it in the toilet completely until its paws lift up. I believe that the Russian leadership would behave in exactly the same way, as was demonstrated both in Chechnya and during the course of “forcing Georgia to peace.” And “preventive strikes” are not an Israeli invention. Such blows were also delivered to the USSR when its leadership considered the situation in one of the neighboring countries dangerous to the security of their country. Suffice it to recall the deployment of troops to Turkey, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan. And the “liberation campaign” of the Red Army in 39 is from the same series.
    And returning to Syria. Of course, Syria was obliged to put on a menacing appearance and threaten to strike back at Israel so as not to lose face. But it is unlikely that she will go beyond threats. Assad has no time for war with Israel now. He should be able to deal with the bandits inside the country. By the way, the West has now lowered its tone and admitted that the chemical ammunition was used by the bandits, and not by Assad. And if so, then it is possible that similar ammunition could appear and explode in any of the Western countries, and therefore we need to think again about who to support in Syria. I think that the choice will ultimately be in favor of Assad, despite all the menacing rhetoric addressed to him. Otherwise, the rhetoric would have long ago turned into carpet bombing of Syria by NATO countries.
    And a request to supporters to minus. First, read the meaning of what was said and try to understand it. Otherwise, behind the anti-Semitic “blizzard,” the opportunity to understand the meaning is often lost.
    1. -1
      8 May 2013 14: 02
      Quote: gregor6549
      The fact that an Israeli air raid on Syrian military targets is an act of aggression is unambiguous, and double aggression because the strike was carried out from the territory of another sovereign country, Lebanon. At the same time, I would separate the flies from the cutlets. Objectively, Israel is not at all interested in the fall of the Assad regime, because... risks getting, instead of one, albeit not entirely friendly, but quite predictable person who could hold Syria in his hands, an uncontrollable mass of bandit individuals who know nothing but kill, do not want to and do not obey anyone / And such a scenario does not smile at all on Israel . Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas and the currently unpredictable Egypt are more than enough for him. Therefore, all that Israel is currently trying to do is to somehow prevent these and other bandits, for example Hezbollah, from falling into the hands of weapons systems that, after the start of their combat use, will be much more difficult to fight. The experience of the last Lebanese war showed this very convincingly, especially since Israel tries to the best of its ability to carry out “precision” strikes on military targets of the opposing side, this side does not bother itself with such troubles, hits squares and hides behind women’s skirts and children’s undershirts.
      I’m not a beast, but if I were the leader of a sovereign country, in which the cities of my country are being shelled from a neighboring territory or from a part, albeit “strongly autonomous,” then I would regard this as an act of war, and then .... on war, as in war. Those. soak it in the toilet completely until its paws lift up. I believe that the Russian leadership would behave in exactly the same way, as was demonstrated both in Chechnya and during the course of “forcing Georgia to peace.” And “preventive strikes” are not an Israeli invention. Such blows were also delivered to the USSR when its leadership considered the situation in one of the neighboring countries dangerous to the security of their country. Suffice it to recall the deployment of troops to Turkey, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan. And the “liberation campaign” of the Red Army in 39 is from the same series.
      And returning to Syria. Of course, Syria was obliged to put on a menacing appearance and threaten to strike back at Israel so as not to lose face. But it is unlikely that she will go beyond threats. Assad has no time for war with Israel now. He should be able to deal with the bandits inside the country. By the way, the West has now lowered its tone and admitted that the chemical ammunition was used by the bandits, and not by Assad. And if so, then it is possible that similar ammunition could appear and explode in any of the Western countries, and therefore we need to think again about who to support in Syria. I think that the choice will ultimately be in favor of Assad, despite all the menacing rhetoric addressed to him. Otherwise, the rhetoric would have long ago turned into carpet bombing of Syria by NATO countries.
      And a request to supporters to minus. First, read the meaning of what was said and try to understand it. Otherwise, behind the anti-Semitic “blizzard,” the opportunity to understand the meaning is often lost.

      It’s good to drive away this tired blizzard. About “why does Israel need the collapse of Syria?” It has already been said a thousand times, there is no desire to repeat it.
      1. +2
        8 May 2013 16: 16
        The level of argumentation is touching. You quote your opponent for half a page, and then briefly send him away, Thank you for at least not three letters. good
    2. +3
      8 May 2013 15: 55
      Quote: gregor6549
      Suffice it to recall the deployment of troops to Turkey, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan.

      Sending troops into Turkey? Looks like NATO is screwed up))
      1. +1
        8 May 2013 16: 10
        Mistake, sorry. Of course, to Iran, and not to Turkey, although it was Turkey that should have been introduced in the first place, because Türkiye was ready to side with Hitler
  52. Safa7.62
    +1
    8 May 2013 13: 40
    The Americans invaded Afghanistan, overthrew the rulers of the sovereign states of Iraq and Libya, giving birth to terrorists, and so, under the pretext of fighting terrorism and preserving our state, we dropped a couple of bombs on militant training camps in Turkey and Jordan)))xdxdxdxd
  53. +3
    8 May 2013 13: 48
    I never liked hucksters...
  54. +1
    8 May 2013 13: 50
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Tarpon
    To deliver a missile strike on Easter night is in itself a savory spit in the direction of Russia.

    weird? Syria is an Orthodox country?

    Actually, we are talking about Russia.


    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Tarpon
    Gentlemen "hawks" did not wait! The negotiations took place - a course towards a peaceful settlement!

    with or without Assad, check Kerry's position.

    Any negotiations are better than fighting.
    1. -3
      8 May 2013 14: 38
      Quote: Tarpon
      Actually, we are talking about Russia.

      What does she have to do with it?
      Quote: Tarpon
      Any negotiations are better than fighting

      Demagogy.
  55. -12
    8 May 2013 14: 02
    And where does Russia?
    Should I buy an Orthodox calendar for work, so that God forbid I don’t get to some holiday, and thereby spit in your soul?
    1. Kuzkin Batyan
      +2
      8 May 2013 14: 59
      You are thinking absolutely right. Let me rush to the calendar.
  56. +3
    8 May 2013 14: 42
    Syria should appeal to the international war crimes tribunal in The Hague against the Netanyahu regime - FACTS IN FACE. This is the Israeli Pol-Pot.
  57. shpuntik
    +1
    8 May 2013 14: 46
    Best defense is attack. Doesn't Assad know this? The response to the bombing of one’s territory should not be a missile strike, but a ground operation on Israeli territory. But apparently, the Arabs really are worthless warriors.
    1. Chavy
      -3
      8 May 2013 15: 09
      You shouldn’t be so, the Syrians are excellent warriors, this war has perfectly proven this. It’s not going to be easy for the Israeli soldiers, that’s for sure, the army is all on Facebook on duty
  58. Kuzkin Batyan
    0
    8 May 2013 14: 56
    Send our air defense specialists to Syria and announce it to everyone. I think after this neither the Jews nor the United States will want to fly there. Because if ours accidentally shoot down someone there, they will have to wet the air defense points. And our citizens will suffer, this is a reason to clear the map in the place where Israel was. I think none of the Jews and the United States will agree to this.
  59. -12
    8 May 2013 15: 14
    Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
    this is a reason to clear the map in the place where Israel was

    It feels like you are living in some kind of world of fantasy and dreams... Clearing the map of where Israel is located will lead to clearing the map of where Moscow or St. Petersburg is located. Sochi is probably surrounded by many echelon missile defense systems, which will not allow Israel to respond. Or the destruction of tens of millions of people will not be a reason for NATO to clear the entire map of the European part of Russia. It feels like you’ve played too many games with toys or read too many books about the Third World War. Kindergarten
    1. +5
      8 May 2013 15: 23
      Have you by chance re-read the books yourself? If Russia uses its nuclear weapons against Israel, there will be no retaliatory strike.

      And NATO will think 1000 times whether it is worth running into a retaliatory strike for the sake of revenge for Israel. And he will decide that it’s not worth it.

      You can puff yourself up, but it’s worth seeing the edges. And how in the joke with the hedgehog it turns out “I am strong... But light”
      1. -8
        8 May 2013 15: 39
        Quote: Spade
        Have you by chance re-read the books yourself? If Russia uses its nuclear weapons against Israel, there will be no retaliatory strike.

        How neglected everything is...Okay, let’s say there are nuclear weapons on the Israeli Navy submarines, some of them are always at sea. What exactly will prevent them from delivering a retaliatory strike on Russian territory, for example from the Black Sea (that is why I named Sochi as an example). I have already written more than once that Russia can be destroyed by a small amount of nuclear weapons, like any other country, due to the fact that 87% of the population lives in its European part. Do you really think that there are people in the Kremlin who will put the existence of their country on the line, in the hope that NATO will be afraid to respond, because of some Syria?
        Z.Y
        I am silent about Jericho-2 and 3, which both fly to Moscow and the European part of Russia...
        1. Kuzkin Batyan
          +2
          8 May 2013 15: 55
          Remember the Cuban missile crisis? It may happen that Israel will be blown to bits. The situation will heat up, everyone will sit down for negotiations and go their separate ways. If Russia really needs Syria, I don’t know why exactly, maybe because of the base. Then Israel can be expended for this purpose, and no one will start World War 3 because of it.
          1. +3
            8 May 2013 16: 09
            Quote: Kuzkin Batyan
            Israel will be blown to bits

            For so many years of existence, not once did a Soviet soldier set foot on Israeli soil during hostilities. Cause? Do we need it (Israel)? Yes, they helped the Arabs with manpower, but only to defend themselves, where the Arabs were not warriors at all or had to be taught for too long.
            The Soviet government wisely followed the proverb: Don’t touch...........
        2. Chavy
          +4
          8 May 2013 15: 57
          Yeah, your blanks will just fly to Russia and of course no one will shoot them down, everyone will be busy thinking about how to die laughing
          1. -8
            8 May 2013 16: 03
            Quote: Chavy
            Yeah, your blanks will just fly to Russia and of course no one will shoot them down, everyone will be busy thinking about how to die

            How will they shoot down missiles launched at Sochi? Or did Russia suddenly have a global missile defense system?
        3. +6
          8 May 2013 16: 04
          Let's say there is. Will the Turks let a boat from a non-existent country through the strait, and even with nuclear weapons? It’s really better to remain silent about Jericho 2 and 3. It will only work on them if they hit first.

          Russia cannot be destroyed by a small amount of nuclear weapons, you have confused us with China. Happens.

          So breathe out.
          1. -7
            8 May 2013 16: 10
            Quote: Spade
            Russia cannot be destroyed by a small amount of nuclear weapons, you have confused us with China. Happens.

            So breathe out.

            93% of the population of the Russian Federation lives in the European part and along the Trans-Siberian Railway. Moreover, more than a third of the country’s population lives in the 3 most populated regions. 10+ million people live in the 45 largest cities... This can continue for a long time
            1. +3
              8 May 2013 16: 17
              Learn physics. Then take a map, a compass, and figure out how many thousands of warheads are needed to destroy Russia.

              Damn, the Jewish terminators have completely lost their edges.
              1. -6
                8 May 2013 16: 44
                Calm down, everyone. No one in Moscow is going to use nuclear weapons against Israel, just as Israel is not going to use them against Russia. However, irreparable damage to Russia amounts to only two thermonuclear warheads, one for Moscow, the second for St. Petersburg. All other conversations are not serious.
                1. +2
                  8 May 2013 16: 59
                  It is you who are addressing your immoderately active compatriots. For whom Russia can be destroyed like two fingers on asphalt.

                  Irreparable damage for Russia is the destruction of all hydrocarbon deposits.

                  Two in Moscow and St. Petersburg? One confuses us with China, you with timid old Europe
                  1. -2
                    8 May 2013 20: 43
                    Quote: Spade
                    Two in Moscow and St. Petersburg? One confuses us with China, you with timid old Europe

                    I understand that you are going to fight to the last soldier, but the complete destruction of even the two largest cities is not acceptable for any country, even for Russia. And it is irreparable damage!
                    1. +3
                      8 May 2013 20: 49
                      It is difficult to scare us with irreparable damage. Traditionally. This is the mentality.
                    2. Phoenix-D
                      +3
                      9 May 2013 01: 35
                      Professor, what, you still call Israel a “friend of Syria”? Tell us some fairy tale that everything you Jews bombed in Syria was intended for Hezbollah...

                      Somehow it turns out very interestingly - Assad (obviously already expecting some dirty tricks from you) tried to transport air defense to Lebanon in order to somehow cover the direction. It didn’t work out, so what do we have? It was from the Lebanese direction that the strike was launched, and now EVEN UN peacekeepers have protested against Israeli actions that grossly violate Lebanese airspace! It turns out that Assad was right in trying to transfer air defense systems to Lebanon...
                    3. 0
                      9 May 2013 03: 52
                      Quote: professor
                      the complete destruction of even the two largest cities is not acceptable for any country

                      This axiom is for Israel, but not for Russia.
              2. -5
                8 May 2013 16: 56
                Quote: Spade
                Learn physics. Then take a map, a compass, and figure out how many thousands of warheads are needed to destroy Russia.

                What does this have to do with Russian territory? The population is concentrated in the European part, no one will bomb Yakutia
                1. +4
                  8 May 2013 17: 13
                  Moreover, a nuclear warhead has its own destruction radius. Estimate how many charges are needed to destroy Israel and multiply by 179 (that’s how many Israelis will fit into our European part)
              3. GG2012
                +3
                8 May 2013 17: 25
                Quote: Spade
                Damn, the Jewish terminators have completely lost their edges.

                Fantasy in the style of the Strategic Missile Forces

                Send our vigorous Poplar,
                In some Israeli Kryzhopol
                And what would Abrams, Moses, Fima ...
                We felt the "charm" of Hiroshima.
                What would I understand, finally every Jew,
                Enough five "Topol" ...
                And eight million Jews
                They look at the earth from hell.
                And we will wave their hands joyfully
                And the rest ... have a break!
        4. +6
          8 May 2013 16: 20
          The most powerful Israeli army easily wipes out cities inhabited by insignificant Russian goyim from the face of the earth. EPIC! MATTZA HIT THE HEAD!?!
        5. +1
          11 May 2013 22: 33
          Rumata, don’t wave the nuclear weapon, otherwise you won’t get it back. The schmucks are completely gone.
    2. Kuzkin Batyan
      +3
      8 May 2013 15: 35
      You have a high opinion of your country if you decided that because of you someone was going to clear out Moscow and St. Petersburg))
    3. Kuzkin Batyan
      0
      8 May 2013 15: 38
      del...duplicate of previous message
    4. +4
      8 May 2013 15: 58
      Quote: Rumata
      Or the destruction of tens of millions of people will not be a reason for NATO to clear the entire map of the European part of Russia.

      NATO will be very upset. But then he will remember that Israel is not formally a member of NATO, and will do nothing. No, well, he will declare his “concern.” Much less "concern".
  60. -1
    8 May 2013 15: 23
    Quote: Rumata
    It feels like you’ve played too many games with toys or read too many books about the Third World War. Kindergarten

    +100

    Of course, it’s not for Israel to fight with Russia, the weight category is not the same, but you can send volunteers, it seems like you now have a whole YEAR serve for SUCH In time, you can raise tough warriors, like the half of this forum who have never even been in the army.
    1. Chavy
      +4
      8 May 2013 15: 52
      Quote: Toit
      Quote: Rumata
      It feels like you’ve played too many games with toys or read too many books about the Third World War. Kindergarten

      +100

      Of course, it’s not for Israel to fight with Russia, the weight category is not the same, but you can send volunteers, it seems like you now have a whole YEAR serve for SUCH In time, you can raise tough warriors, like the half of this forum who have never even been in the army.


      You can learn a lot in a year. Anyone who was in the army knows this very well, and who was in Tironut 07 too :) Israel is quite special at provocations and pitting countries against each other, this is your and the American strategy of scoundrels - “By deception we make war” - Mossad motto.
      1. -7
        8 May 2013 15: 54
        Quote: Chavy
        You can learn a lot in a year. Anyone who was in the army knows this very well, and who was in Tironut 07 too:

        Of course you can
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  62. ed1968
    +2
    8 May 2013 15: 44
    why should Russia get involved in this at all, it just needs to secretly help the Syrians and monitor the leakage of information and then let them figure it out on their own, stop shedding the blood of your 18 year old boys, the time has come to adopt the tactics of the USA and Europe, otherwise we will solve problems not with our own hands, and as for claims, our house I don't know anything at all
  63. +1
    8 May 2013 15: 52
    Israel, I think sooner or later, will be destroyed, because this small piece of land is surrounded on all sides by Arabs, while they are saved by the support of the West, but how long will it be able to provide it to them?
  64. -3
    8 May 2013 16: 01
    Quote: ed1968
    why should Russia get involved in this at all, it just needs to secretly help the Syrians and monitor the leakage of information and then let them figure it out on their own, stop shedding the blood of your 18 year old boys, the time has come to adopt the tactics of the USA and Europe, otherwise we will solve problems not with our own hands, and as for claims, our house I don't know anything at all

    A common sense approach.

    Quote: AntonR7


    Israel, I think sooner or later, will be destroyed, because this small piece of land is surrounded on all sides by Arabs, while they are saved by the support of the West, but how long will it be able to provide it to them?

    We have had quite good relations with the Sunnis for a long time, but not with the Shiites, just like Russia
  65. Arrogant
    +1
    8 May 2013 16: 09
    Quote: Toit
    Of course, it is not for Israel to fight with Russia, although you can send volunteers to Syria, not in the first, although you have now served for a YEAR, probably in such a period you can raise tough warriors, like half of those present at this forum who have never even been in the army.

    Regular troops are always the first to enter a war, and they are the first to die, but it is the grandfathers and boys who have never been in the army who win it.
  66. Edas
    +1
    8 May 2013 16: 12
    Syria is an outpost of Iran, that says it all
  67. 0
    8 May 2013 16: 16
    regarding the inaction of the Syrian air defense.
    before the war, the enemy must first open the air defense in order to destroy it. In order for it to open, it (the air defense) must start working. I assume that the strike on Syria was precisely the provocation to open it. But the Syrians (read our advisers) held out and did not turn on the radars so as not to reveal the real location of forces and means.
  68. -1
    8 May 2013 16: 16
    Quote: EDAS
    Syria is an outpost of Iran, that says it all

    Absolutely agree

    Quote: Rogue
    Regular troops are always the first to enter a war, and they are the first to die, but it is the grandfathers and boys who have never been in the army who win it.


    It seems that everything is as you say, but there are no and have not been long wars in the Middle East, the distances are not the same.
  69. +4
    8 May 2013 17: 22
    Quote: Canep
    It is strange that there is no Russian reaction, either in words or in deed, to air strikes in Syria. It seems the answer will be made in practice - Putin seems to send troops into Syria.

    Wait and see. We don't know what Putin and Kerry agreed on. It seems to me that all steps in sensitive issues between countries have been discussed in advance for a long time. Politics is a delicate matter. Each side pulls levers and levers and pulls the blanket towards itself. Time will show. It wouldn't be so sad if everything wasn't so serious.
  70. sanych your division
    0
    8 May 2013 17: 31
    someone has to tip the scales and push the first domino. So Israel came in handy for such a thing. Jews are lulled by the quality and quantity of weapons and experience in warfare. but against a virtually unarmed Palestine. the population then bitterly pays for such erroneous ideas.
  71. +1
    8 May 2013 17: 35
    Not good news: Erdogan concluded a package agreement with the leaders of the Kurdistan Workers' Party on the withdrawal of armed forces from Turkish territory. Not all PKK leaders agreed to these agreements. The withdrawal is carried out in stages, keeping an eye on the Turks and being careful of shots in the back. I'm afraid that they will join the ranks of bearded men in Syria.
    1. +2
      8 May 2013 17: 39
      PKK with bearded men on knives.
  72. +6
    8 May 2013 18: 17
    On the issue of Israel's nuclear strike on Russia discussed above.
    You can, of course, giggle at the “presumptuous Zionists,” but this issue was already on the agenda in the early 70s and was very actively discussed at the highest levels in Russia, the USA and Israel.
    Israel did not exactly threaten to destroy the USSR at that time, but hinted through its channels that if the USSR got involved in a war with Israel on the side of its “Arab brothers” and backed Israel “to the wall,” then Israel would have no choice but to use its nuclear weapons against the parties attacking it, including against the USSR, and the means of delivery of these weapons then available to Israel would be quite sufficient to deliver them to Moscow, Minsk, Kiev, Sevastopol, etc.
    And the United States then brought its nuclear forces to a state of full combat readiness. Thank God Brezhnev had the sense to say “stop” then, although Comrade Gromyko and Grechko pressed him very hard, trying to get “full speed ahead” instead of “stop”.
    Now Israel has nuclear deterrence at a much higher level than it was in the 70s, so it will have something to “brush off” if Hamlet’s question “to be or not to be” arises. And the States have not yet given up on protecting Israel. And this, with any attempt by any country to destroy Israel, can ultimately lead to only one thing: a full-scale world nuclear war, in which no one will care whether you are a Jew, whether you are a crest, whether you are a Russian, or whether you are a Syrian. And no air defense, missile defense or aerospace defense will help here.
    Everyone who has it will probably be able to press the red button, but there will be no one to discuss the results of pressing it.
    Therefore, there are proposals not to shake the air in vain and not to scare each other. Everyone is already scared
  73. +2
    8 May 2013 18: 25
    The most interesting thing is that when watching a video about missile strikes on Syria, one can clearly hear shouts of “Alla, I’m going to the bar,” which means we can conclude that those who filmed knew when, where and at what time the missile strike would take place
    1. -4
      8 May 2013 18: 43
      Yes, they yell like that for any reason. In this case, it is obvious that something close in meaning to the strong expressions of eyewitnesses of the fall of the Chelyabinsk meteorite.
  74. Arrogant
    0
    8 May 2013 18: 27
    Quote: Toit


    I'm not talking about the Middle East, but about the mess that could begin in general
  75. +4
    8 May 2013 18: 32
    Quote: Rogue
    I'm not talking about the Middle East, but about the mess that could begin in general


    If you are talking about the Third World War, then it will not happen, at least as long as the money of the Russian elite lies in Western banks. IMHO
    1. +1
      8 May 2013 18: 48
      You would be right if only Russia and the United States had nuclear weapons. And since not everyone who has it has their money in American banks, I wouldn’t swear by it. In addition to two smart and rich people with nuclear weapons, the world is already full of poor and bad people with the same nuclear weapons.
  76. -1
    8 May 2013 19: 04
    I would like to be more specific, if possible, who exactly do you mean, Pakistan, India...?
    1. +1
      8 May 2013 19: 51
      Israel is unlikely. because neither poor nor bad. In any case, he performs even arrogant actions quite thoughtfully. Iran is also not poor and also not at all bad, despite Akhmedizhan’s not entirely adequate statements. The ayatollahs also want to live, and here and now and not later and in paradise. And they understand that if something happens, they will not have an easy death in their bed. India, although poor, is far from bad and does not want to quarrel with anyone, even with Pakistan and China. Here Pakistan is poor and bad, and even reeks of “stupidity” through and through. China seems to be not entirely poor and not at all bad, but it has already begun to claim a leading role in the world, and with such claims it won’t take long to press the button. Who else is there? Yes, the same Korea, which is from the North. There, poverty may well outweigh the intelligence, especially if the intelligence is still a little and someone from the outside is trying to aggravate this poverty. There is nothing to say about England and France. These are in the same harness as the United States and are still far from poverty. Did I list everyone or did I forget who?
      1. 0
        8 May 2013 22: 28
        Quote: gregor6549
        Israel is unlikely. because neither poor nor bad.

        According to the last definition, big doubts arise! hi
        1. 0
          10 May 2013 06: 02
          I have no particular doubts about this. Just a typical case of "woe from the mind." And if there was one such case. But it’s not the only one, and it’s unlikely to be the last. There also seems to be no particular doubt that Israel is fighting competently. But there is something in his wars over the past 20 years that neither clear goals nor outstanding results can be seen. Those. Of course there is a process. There is a process, with noise, uproar, wounded, dead, etc., but, alas, there is no result. Moreover, it is not always clear why this process was started. And this is incomprehensible not only to me, but, as far as I know, to many, if not most, Israelis.
          And this only provokes Israel’s opponents again and again to “test Israel’s teeth,” especially since instead of knocked out teeth they grow back even stronger and sharper ones. Those. Such a process often leads to results completely opposite to those expected by Israeli citizens. There is no need to talk about citizens of countries that are opponents of Israel. And finally, with such a process and such results, all talk about peace in that region is nothing more than la la. And with all the la la about the world, there are too many powerful people in the United States and in Russia and in the Arab world who are completely uninterested in any kind of peace between Israel and its neighbors.
          And the “weak and defenseless” Palestinians do not need peace. They have long been accustomed to living for free. Moreover, special efforts are not required from them to get this freebie. Throw a couple of kassams towards Israel and get another convoy with humanitarian aid and a hefty money transfer. True, these humanitarian aid and translations do not reach all Palestinians. Those to whom all this reaches live in very nice villas on the shores of the Mediterranean Sea, and not at all in the bombed slums shown by the media. And Kassam, from the places where these villas are located, is never launched. The owners of the villas are not fools at all. And the fact that those who let Kassam in have a 90% chance of getting to heaven ahead of schedule doesn’t bother them, the villa owners. And paradise is big, and there are plenty of shooters. The main thing is that these launches do not stop.
          Ask me where I get this opinion from. And the opinion was formed on the basis of many hours of conversations with Israelis, and with Palestinians, and other “various Swedes” living in those parts, when I visited business delegations from Belarus and in Israel, and in some neighboring countries in the 90s. What was to be done? It was necessary to find new markets for Belarusian products, new investors for its dying industry, etc. After all, Russia then became a very proud bird and turned its nose up at us, the “hard-nosed bullies.”
          I would also like to note that not only Jews are citizens of Israel. There are a lot of Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians there, and they are often much more uncompromising towards Israel’s “restless” neighbors than the Jews themselves. And the Jews there are not all the same. Those from Georgia, for example, are more Georgians than Jews. Those blacks from Ethiopia were still blacks. So not everything is so simple and unambiguous in that not very far from Russia, i.e. Middle East. The East is already a delicate matter, but the Middle East is even subtler
  77. toldanger
    +8
    8 May 2013 19: 58
    All this chatter is surprising. Do you want to help your country and stand in solidarity with Syria?

    Give up all tours to Israel and Turkey, leave the money in the Motherland of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

    I’ll tell you from personal experience: The last 7 years have not happened in Judastan and Turkland. And I always recommend it to my friends.
    1. -8
      8 May 2013 20: 36
      Quote: toldanger

      I’ll tell you from personal experience: The last 7 years have not happened in Judastan and Turkland. And I always recommend it to my friends.
      admit that they simply don’t give you a visa to Israel. And not long ago there was a group of engineers from Belarus, learning how to service medical equipment purchased from us.
      Exceptionally smart and friendly people, unlike you. And now they are going to come and relax with their families.
      1. toldanger
        +6
        8 May 2013 21: 12
        Dear, on work trips I go to places where most ordinary Russians can only see in a picture. And neither our organization nor our organization has any visa problems.
        I just think that we need to be patriots not only in words. The number of Russian-speaking tourists in Turkey is simply terrifying. It's as if there are no alternatives.
    2. +1
      11 May 2013 22: 51
      +++ Man is weak, at least many of us are. They want to eat well, drink and feel girls. This is what causes all the troubles. We cannot oppose the consumer society with at least some kind of restraint. And in Israel there is generally nothing to do in this desert, which is always at war with the Arabs.
  78. biglow
    +5
    8 May 2013 20: 36
    a hint was made to Israel Source: "Telegraphist"

    A video recording from one of the Israeli TV channels has appeared on the Internet, where an Israeli political scientist claims that Russian experts deliberately leaked a conversation between Vladimir Putin and the Israeli Prime Minister, blogger arguendi wrote about this.

    From the leak it follows that Vladimir Putin promised not to allow anyone to remove Bashar al-Assad from the presidency, and also that due to the Israeli attack on Syrian territory, Russia will soon supply S-300 air defense systems to Syria.

    “I want to talk about a very interesting conversation that took place yesterday between our Prime Minister in China [Netanyahu] and Vladimir Putin. I personally did not eavesdrop on this conversation, but the Russian side was interested in its leak. The conversation was very difficult. As far as I know, in this conversation it was said that Russia will not allow either the United States, Israel or other states, meaning Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, to overthrow President Assad and that Israel cut it well on her nose. And that in response to this kind of operation [an Israeli strike on Syria], the delivery of the latest Russian military equipment, which includes S-300 and Iskander missiles, will begin in the coming hours, ”said an Israeli expert.

    Since Syrian crews have already been trained in Russia to service the S-300 installations, the installations will be deployed into combat formations in an extremely short time, since the air bridge between Russia and Syria operates around the clock and Russian observers are helping the Syrians
  79. +3
    8 May 2013 21: 25
    hmm - it turns out that as soon as all this riffraff begins to lose the war in SYRIA, then the Jewish puppeteers turn on - !! in vain - in vain! This will end badly for them!!!
  80. +2
    8 May 2013 21: 33
    Quote: datur
    hmm - it turns out that as soon as all this riffraff begins to lose the war in SYRIA, then the Jewish puppeteers turn on - !! in vain - in vain! This will end badly for them!!!

    which will end very badly!
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  82. -2
    8 May 2013 22: 14
    What kind of fear bully
  83. stranik72
    +2
    8 May 2013 22: 24
    An interesting “party” is emerging, the head of the Jews went to China, the US ministries minister went to Russia, if after the holidays China and Russia do not communicate on a serious level “tet to tet,” we can assume that Syria has been surrendered, but what in return? There is no reason for us to fight for Syria. And as for the global organized crime group, i.e. Israel, I think whoever brazenly wants trouble will undoubtedly get it sooner or later. We need to deal with their 5th column here, “suitcase – station – Israel”, Russia will never be their homeland.
  84. +2
    8 May 2013 22: 29
    Quote: stranik72
    We need to deal with their 5th column here, “suitcase – station – Israel”, Russia will never be their homeland.

    Start with Abramovich and others like them, of course they won’t come to us, but they won’t be an eyesore for you either.

    But in general, in Russia the Jews are left with nothing, most left long ago
  85. +2
    8 May 2013 22: 48
    Quote: stranik72
    We need to deal with their 5th column here, “suitcase – station – Israel”, Russia will never be their homeland.
    I “stuck” on Jewish sites for 1 day (: do you know what kind of “mental” they have? All participants “laugh” at our country and perceive it as a “kind, stupid cow --- well, yes, we were born there (by the way, a black spot, for example, Jews will not be allowed to go to the Negev desert to work in the B-U nuclear project in the USSR. And with the 5th column this is for our oligarchs, I won’t be surprised that they release these bubbles. What is the point of the post? Yes, no one gives us any Chrismayonnaise I sympathize, all these posts about how it was in the USSR are bile. The fighters of the Qaeda system are getting closer to the borders of Kawakaaz. And the guys can continue to be fascinated by the VT knowledge of Abram’s children. They have created such a scoundrel with their presence in the economy and finances of Russia that then only hymns .......................
  86. 0
    8 May 2013 22: 55
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    Jews will not be sent to the Negev desert to work in the B-U nuclear project in the USSR

    They even let me in, I personally know people like that.
    Quote: Thunderbolt
    All participants “neigh” at our country and perceive it as a “kind, stupid cow --- well, yes, we were born there

    Different people have different perceptions, there are some who laugh, but the overwhelming majority have a very positive attitude, by the way, do not forget that 90% came not from Russia, but from Ukraine, Uzbekistan, and the Caucasus, I also find the posts of many comrades on this unpleasant forum, but this does not affect my attitude towards Russia and the Russian people.
  87. drongo
    0
    8 May 2013 23: 40
    How Grushin's missiles are missing!
  88. Eugen
    +2
    8 May 2013 23: 45
    One thing is only pleasing (if anything in the situation with Syria can be pleasing at all) - as simply as it did not work out with other countries of the Middle East, the Syrians forced the Atlanticists to work hard on developing even more sophisticated schemes.
    If Syria responds to provocations, we expect the Western media to become hysterical; they will tell us many kosher stories about the bloody dictator Assad, who, out of the blue, in the middle of a civil war, decided to start aggression against freedom-loving and peaceful Israelis. smile
    I hope they will get stuck in Syria for an expensive and long time, after which the last frontier in the Far East is Iran.
  89. +3
    8 May 2013 23: 52
    [quote=djon3volta][b]Third World War Scenario[/b]


    There is a possibility that Russia could later invade the US through Alaska.[/b]

    / Quote]
    Exactly, exactly. Let's send the Chukchi to raise the Indians for the war of liberation.
  90. -2
    9 May 2013 00: 00
    Quote: poquello
    There is a possibility that Russia could later invade the US through Alaska.[/b]


    I imagined the logistics of this event, I laughed)))
    1. 0
      9 May 2013 00: 23
      Get some sleep and don't use drugs and then such thoughts will go away from you love smell the flowers...
  91. +2
    9 May 2013 00: 22
    Israel neglects all civilized norms and relations between states. By throwing bombs on Syria, he acts like a jackal finishing off a wounded victim...Israel, you are behaving indecently!
    1. +1
      11 May 2013 22: 57
      Ivanovich, it is useless to reproach the Jews; only strength and determination can give results. This is the East. They don't know feelings.
  92. -5
    9 May 2013 00: 26
    Israel has been at war with Syria since 48. Syria is not acting ethically by supporting Hezbollah, which shelled Israeli cities, we are bombing them now. In war, as in war.
    1. Phoenix-D
      +2
      9 May 2013 01: 22
      You violated the ceasefire agreement. Violated rudely, unilaterally. Don't like Hezbollah? So bomb it, why are you going to Syria?
  93. -2
    9 May 2013 00: 27
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    Sleep well, and don’t use drugs, and then such thoughts will go away from you, smell the flowers...

    Please share your personal experience, thank you. hi
    1. +1
      9 May 2013 00: 37
      Didn't find a decent answer? Keep sniffing love laughing
  94. +3
    9 May 2013 00: 31
    Who seized lands from whom, Syria from Israel or Israel from Syria? I know the answer... It will come to the point that Israel will capture half of Russia to ensure the security of Israel...
  95. -3
    9 May 2013 00: 35
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    Who seized lands from whom, Syria from Israel or Israel from Syria? I know the answer... It will come to the point that Israel will capture half of Russia to ensure the security of Israel...

    What is taken in battle is holy.
    The first ones climbed in and lost, according to international law, Israel had the right to indemnity, for example, the USSR “captured” Kaliningrad and the Kuril Islands in the same way, so when you give up, you can demand from us, ethics is a double-edged sword
    1. Phoenix-D
      +2
      9 May 2013 01: 18
      At the time of its formation, Israel arose on ANOTHER land, a respected uncle with a disposable nickname. Further, your occupation of the Golan Heights is not recognized by the world community and condemned by the UN - please liberate the Syrian territories you occupied.
    2. +1
      9 May 2013 19: 41
      You compare military actions when the Soviet army seized the lands of East Prussia and Western Europe, thereby liberating a huge mass of people, including Jews, from the nightmare of fascism - you are a real GAD!
    3. +1
      11 May 2013 23: 01
      There is no need to dodge, you have a war of conquest, we have a war of liberation.
  96. -5
    9 May 2013 00: 41
    Quote: Ivanovich47
    Didn't find a decent answer? Keep sniffing

    Do you think this is an exemplary answer for an adult?
    1. 0
      9 May 2013 19: 03
      How can you respond to enemy aggression? - hurricane fire.
  97. +2
    9 May 2013 00: 52
    Aw-ZHENKA (“pimply”) where are you? Tell us how your spaceships roam! How YOU defeated everyone there! You (sorry for being familiar), it’s very interesting to discuss with you!
  98. 0
    9 May 2013 03: 08
    It's all strange! Israel is playing with fire. If Syria begins to respond with missiles, and Iran supports it in these endeavors, then people will begin to die en masse in Israel itself. Why do they need this?! Of course, the Amers will support them, and their army is also not a mistake, and Assad will certainly get a khan, BUT! While all this happens, considerable damage will be caused to Israel itself. A beast driven into a corner attacks itself. So is Syria - in its agony it will respond with all means, including chemical weapons. It’s not close to America, but Israel... It turns out that the price for loyalty to America is too high! I don't see the logic!
    1. 0
      9 May 2013 03: 27
      Let there be no blow! Let them “dry their oars” - OUR president outplayed them! And rightly so for these ghouls! - They will “crack” on OUR terms!
  99. +1
    9 May 2013 04: 20
    Quote: Vasya Ivanov
    I am skeptical of the prediction, but I remember when the mess started in Libya, I read the prophecy of my grandmother Vanga. She said that the 3rd world will begin when Syria falls. And the Jews are drawn into the war of all, the war will be in the region of Turkey and America, Europe, China, Russia will catch up. In short, the batch will be global and no one will be left aside. Campaign grandmother was right.

    Yes, along the way, no matter how it happened, it will not end peacefully, the situation is getting worse, more and more new actors are joining in, Syria is slowly turning into the center of the mess of all the states located in this region, and you can consider me a pessimist, but I sense that now this will not end well for someone and even us We know who unleashed all the dogs, or at least some of them for now (and God forbid that I’m wrong, I really don’t want to see in the news a fiery cauldron in the center of Syria, which was almost rightfully defeated) and by the way, about Vanga’s prediction with the collapse of the Union, she seemed to accurately predict it, although I'm also skeptical about this
  100. Gregory
    0
    9 May 2013 04: 38
    I'm not an expert. But I fantasized and thought that perhaps the Israeli planes in Lebanon were flying at low altitude (Lebanon doesn’t have anything to shoot them down with) and only at the moment of the attack they gained altitude and launched missiles. I also thought that the Syrians did not have the slightest desire to shoot down planes in the skies of Lebanon. In any case, we need to think about how to track low-flying targets from Israel crossing the border of Lebanese airspace and immediately hit them.

    I will not repeat myself about the blatant act of aggression - I spoke enough in the discussion for the previous publication on this topic. I am more inclined to think that the raid was planned by the United States, and Israel was not going to deny itself the pleasure of vilely bombing its bloodless neighbor in this manner.