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Geopolitical mosaic: Erdogan called Assad a "butcher" and a "murderer", while in the USA they are waiting for an armed insurrection

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Geopolitical mosaic: Erdogan called Assad a "butcher" and a "murderer", while in the USA they are waiting for an armed insurrection



Erdogan spoke on behalf of the Turkish people. Turkish Prime Minister called Bashar Assad a “butcher” and a “murderer”, and at the same time he warned that the wrath of God was waiting for him, the channel reports "RT".

The aggressive statement of Mr. Erdogan was followed by the dissemination in the media of information about the Israeli air strike on the Damascus suburb. Opinion about what happened Prime Minister expressed at a meeting with party members in Ankara. Erdogan's words are quoted by the newspaper Daily Star Lebanon:

"If God allows us, we will see how this butcher, this murderer will be condemned ... You will pay a high, very high price for courage, which you can show only in front of small children and no one else."


Mr. Erdogan noted that the Turkish people are not inclined to hide their opinions for the sake of political correctness and always speak the truth.

The Prime Minister condemned the international community for the fact that it is slow in making a decision, and the number of those killed in the civil war in Syria continues to grow.

Condemnation of aggression. The Iranian Foreign Ministry strongly condemned Israel’s aggression against the Jamrai Research Center near Damascus, reports SANA. According to Tehran, this aggression leads to the undermining of the security and stability of the Middle East region. Iranian Foreign Ministry called for strengthening the unity and solidarity of the countries of the region in confronting Israeli threats.

Iranian Defense Minister Ahmad Wahidi condemned the Israeli aggression, confirming that Israel received the "green light" from the United States to take such a step. He stressed that this attack confirms the connection of terrorist groups in Syria and their Zionist patrons. Wahidi added that this aggression threatens the security of the entire region.

Lebanese politicians, parties and organizations also expressed solidarity with the SAR. Lebanese President Michel Suleiman demanded that the world community, in particular, the UN Security Council, take strict measures against the aggressor in order to force it to stop such steps that violate the sovereignty of other countries, and implement international decisions regarding the Arab-Israeli conflict.

The aggression was condemned by the Iraqi Arab People’s Committee for Syria and Resistance, the Tunisian Al-Savabeth Party, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Union of Palestinian Movements and Forces in Damascus, the Jihad Islam movement, the Avant-garde Popular Liberation Struggle, the Palestinian Front struggle, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (General Command), the International Confederation of Arab Trade Unions, Egyptian political figures and journalists, the head of the political department of the Palestine Liberation Organization us and other parties, public figures and organizations.

They opposed silencing the Israeli crime by some countries in the region and called on the Arab peoples to organize demonstrations in support of Syria, its army and leadership in the fight against the aggressors.

As the SANA, in protest against Israeli aggression and on the occasion of the Day of the fallen in the SAR, the Syrian community and the office of the Union of Syrian students in collaboration with Russian youth, political and student organizations yesterday held a rally in Moscow.

The participants condemned the Israeli attack on Syria’s facilities and confirmed that this step demonstrates Israel’s complicity in the conspiracy against the SAR and its links with terrorist groups supported by Western countries and the Gulf monarchies.

They expressed solidarity with Syria, its army and leadership in opposing the forces of terror and darkness. They thanked Russia, China and the BRICS countries for supporting justice on the world stage.

In an interview with a SANA correspondent in Moscow, a rally participant, Russian citizen Mikhail Ivanov, said that the Syrian people stand alone against the forces of evil in the world, Syria is protecting all countries of the world from this merciless plague. He expressed confidence that ATS would win, and her victory would be a victory for all freedom-loving nations.

The US administration is silent. The White House considers Israel’s concern over the emergence of new types of weapons at the Lebanese Hezbollah movement justified, but does not comment on reports of the alleged Israeli air force strikes on Syrian territory, reports today correspondent RIA "News" Peter Martynychev.

According to media reports, on Sunday night, the Israeli Air Force bombed a military facility near Damascus, and before that destroyed in Syria the cargo of Iranian missiles intended for Hezbollah. None of the Israeli leaders have publicly confirmed or denied this information.

“I have no comments on these reports ... But the president (US Barack Obama) had previously noted that Israel is quite reasonably concerned about the threat posed to getting to the Hezbollah group of modern weapons. And the president has repeatedly said that Israel, as an independent state, has the right to take the necessary actions to protect its citizens, ”White House spokesman Josh Ernest told reporters.

Syria reserves the right to defend its people and interests by all possible means to prevent a repetition of attacks by Israel, Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister Faisal Mikdad said on Sunday on the Lebanese television channel Al-Manar, controlled by Hezbollah. “Syria will not allow this to happen again, we have the right to protect our people and our interests by all possible means,” said Mikdad.

According to him, the Israeli attack on Syria is caused by the defeats that the Al-Qaeda-related groups in Syria tolerate. "The defeats that al-Qaeda bears in the battles with government forces in Syria have demanded the direct intervention of the patrons of terrorist groups - Israel," comrade Mikdad explained.

According to him, the Israeli air force airstrike on the territory of Syria was also made with the knowledge and with the encouragement of the United States.

Film critics criticized the chemical series. Opposition militants could use chemical weapons in Syria, not government troops, reports today RIA News" with reference to Reuters.

In an interview with the Swiss television and radio corporation Radiotelevisione svizzera, Carla del Ponte, a member of the UN Special Commission to Investigate Human Rights Violations in Syria, stated that based on the data that the members of the commission who visited neighboring countries of Syria received from doctors, victims and employees of field hospitals ", it can be concluded that sarin was used by" the opposition, the rebels, and not the government. "

She further added that the information obtained is not “indisputable evidence”, and the investigation is “far from complete.” Del Ponte did not specify where and when the opposition could use weapons of mass destruction.

As recalled "Lenta.ru"Carla del Ponte is the former Prosecutor General of Switzerland and the Prosecutor of the United Nations International Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. Now she is a member of an independent UN commission in charge of investigating human rights abuses in Syria. At the UN, a commission was also created, whose task was to verify reports on the use of chemical substances during the Syrian conflict. weapons. However, the Syrian authorities in early April refused to let the members of this commission onto the country's territory, and its work was in fact paralyzed.

Canada does not want to supply weapons to the Syrian "rebels". Canada opposes the supply of weapons to the Syrian opposition: after all, “radical jihadists” join the detachments of the latter. This was stated yesterday in an interview with the TV "Si-ti-vi" Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird, reports from Ottawa correspondent ITAR-TASS Alexander Pakhomov.

Baird said: “Canada is one of the few Western countries that do not recognize the Syrian opposition. One of the reasons for this is that a significant number of radical extremists from all over the world have joined the opposition forces. ”

The government of the country, according to Byrd, is "growingly alarmed" by an increase in the number of "radical jihadists associated with Al-Qaeda" in the opposition. “To prevent weapons from falling into the hands of these extremists is in the interests of all countries,” he emphasized.

The closed sky of Israel. As the correspondent ITAR-TASS Nikolay Kerzhentsev, airspace over the north of Israel from yesterday closed to civilian flights aviation. The press service of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said the ban would last several days.

The IDF does not explain the reasons for the decision, but local observers attribute this to the exacerbation of the situation caused by reports of air strikes by the Israeli Air Force on targets in Syria. Earlier, the military deployed two batteries of the Iron Dome missile defense system in the Haifa and Safed areas - cities that Hezbollah shelled during the second Lebanese war in 2006.

The Haifa authorities are also increasing their level of preparedness in the field of civil defense. Together with the Office for the Protection of Logistics in the third largest city of Israel, bomb shelters and coordination points are being opened.

Shooting in Cairo. Unidentified persons opened fire on the convoy of Hisham Kandil, the Egyptian Prime Minister, the Al Arabya television channel reported on Monday in a microblog on Twitter, it reports RIA News".

According to the Associated Press, in Cairo, a pickup truck approached a motorcade of three cars at high speed, after which the premier’s security fired warning shots into the air. People in the pickup truck opened fire. In the pickup were five armed men.

Kandil was not injured. The police detained the shooters. They said they did not know that the prime minister was in one of the cars.

According to police, armed men hurried to leave the place of the previous conflict. No details about it.

Joy in Tripoli. Libyan General National Congress adopted a law according to which the former functionaries of the times of Colonel Gaddafi can not occupy key posts in state bodies of the country. The demand of armed revolutionaries was met, previously blocking the buildings of several ministries in protest. Hearing such news, militants staged a firing in Tripoli in the air, transmit "Vesti" with reference to ITAR-TASS.

Because of the new decision, many prominent political figures will be deprived of their posts, including the chairman of the WOC Mohammed Yousef al-Magaref.

In Munich, began the trial of right-wing terrorists. Munich's Supreme Land Court begins the largest in post-war stories Germany, the trial of the right-wing terrorists In the dock, writes correspondent RIA "News" Semyon Nekhoroshkin, five people: 38-year-old Beate Chepe, one of the key figures in the neo-Nazi group "National Socialist Underground", and her four associates.

The neo-Nazi group, founded in 1998, consisted of three people: in addition to Chepe, it included Uwe Mundloz and Uwe Benhardt. Both committed suicide in November 2011. On the account of the grouping the murder of nine migrants - eight Turks and one native of Greece - and one police officer, as well as a number of robberies.

According to the indictment, Chepe did not kill anyone. And yet she will be judged not only for aiding, but also for murder: without her, these crimes would have been impossible. In the grouping, she was engaged in organizational work, rented cars, provided her accomplices with false documents and weapons.

Therefore, Chepe faces life imprisonment without the right to early release.

The remaining defendants, according to the prosecution, provided assistance to the terrorists. The names of the alleged criminals were not disclosed. Some information is only about one of them - 38-year-old Ralph Vollebene. Previously, he was a functionary of an ultra-right branch of the National Democratic Party.

Corr. RIA "Novosti" clarifies that the process began almost three weeks later than planned. This was due to the revision of the issue of distribution of seats for the press: Turkish media did not receive any accreditations from 50, although most of the victims of terrorists came from Turkey. This caused a big scandal. As a result, a number of the largest German publications, including Welt and Zeit, lost their places, and foreign media received accreditation.

Tens of tons of hashish in Spain. Spanish law enforcement agencies seized about 52 tons of hashish in the city of Cordoba, according to EFE, reports correspondent RIA "News" Sergey Sarymov.

This is the largest batch of drugs ever discovered in Spain. Their market value may be 100 million euros.

Corr. RIA Novosti recalls that two days ago, as a result of a special operation, the police seized 32 tons of hashish.

France protests against the disastrous policy of Hollande. As 5 passed on May correspondent ITAR-TASS Sergey Shcherbakov, opponents of legalization of same-sex marriages in France held on Sunday demonstrations throughout the country. At least 15 thousand people went to the streets of Paris. The protest marches were held in Dijon, Lille, Lyon, Montpellier, Rennes, Strasbourg, Toulouse.

The leader of the protest movement Freezhid Barzho said: “We do not lose hope that the bill will not be signed by the president. Such examples have already been in the history of the Fifth Republic. ”

"The French need a job, not same-sex marriage," the participants of the demonstrations chanted, hinting at a rise in unemployment in the country.

Demonstrations of the extreme leftists led by former presidential candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon were also held in Paris. In 2012, he dropped out of the campaign marathon in the first round, but supported Hollande in the second. Now Melanshon criticizes Hollande’s political course.

According to the former candidate, “the changes promised by the president have not come.” “We demand that the government accelerate the pace of reforms and abandon the austerity policy that is detrimental to the rank and file French,” said Melanshon. At least 30 thousand people took part in the procession of the communists and the left opposition supporters who joined them, reports the correspondent. ITAR-TASS.

The first anniversary of the reign of Hollande. Corr. RIA "News" Daniel Nizamutdinov spoke about the situation in which French President Francois Hollande celebrates the first anniversary of election victory. Its holiday components: a record low rating of the head of state, deceived expectations of voters, scandals in the government, a split in society because of the law on same-sex marriage.

Hollande came to power under the slogan “Change now”, but a year later, citizens who were really expecting a change were disappointed in their elect: according to polls, 74 is dissatisfied with them,% of respondents is an absolute record in the modern history of the country.

According to two of the four newest polls, if the elections were held today, Hollande would have flown out in the first round, losing not only to Sarkozy, but also to Marine Le Pen. In the third survey, Hollande and Le Pen finished with one result.

Before the election, Hollande promised that in 2013, France would fulfill its obligations to the EU and reduce the budget deficit to a 3% bar. Yes, that's just according to the latest forecasts of the European Commission, the French budget deficit in 2013 will reach 3,9% in the year, in 2014 - 4,2%. In 2013, France may face a recession: the country's economy will shrink by 0,1%. The level of public debt will also increase - up to 94,0% of GDP in 2013 and up to 96,2% of GDP in 2014.

Hollande’s next promise is to reverse the unemployment curve by the end of 2013. But here everything is awry. In the spring, the number of unemployed in France reached a historic high of 3,2 million people. According to experts of the European Commission, by the end of the year this figure will stabilize for a short time, making 10,6% of the working-age population, but in the 2014 year it will grow again - up to 10,9%.

Success Hollande achieved only ... in the adoption of the law on same-sex marriage.

However, the adoption of this law has split the society. People who are not ready to put up with the fact that homosexuals will have the right to adopt children, and other opponents of the law "marriage for all" bring thousands of protesters to the streets.

In Britain, they decided to instill in children a love of pornography. Melani Hell and Graham Paton ("The Telegraph"; source of translation - Mixednews.ru) told about the active discussion in the country of questions about the content of the school program in the field of sex education.

Experts in the field of education are inclined to believe that pornography is not an absolute evil.

In the UK, sex education lessons are not included in the list of compulsory program subjects approved by the Ministry of Education, and therefore each school is free to develop its own program on the subject.

The public association “Sex Education Forum”, which includes representatives of public and state organizations, decided to help schools in the development of an appropriate program. A few days ago it published the first issue of a network publication devoted to the issues of sex education of children - in particular, the question of how to most correctly present children with a “controversial phenomenon,” that is, pornography.

Special attention is attracted by the statement that “pornography can be assessed differently, not necessarily only“ negatively ”. The online edition offers different lesson ideas for each age group.

Five-year-old schoolchildren, for example, are supposed to tell how retouching photos in the media distorts the perception of the appearance of the human body.

With students 14 years and older are invited to discuss issues of "real" and "fictional" behavior in porn movies.

“It seems that the purpose of this publication is to destroy the faith of children and young people in absolute moral values ​​and to create the impression that there is no bad and good in the sphere of sexual behavior. Most parents will be horrified when they find out that their children are going to talk about pornography in this way, said a representative of the Family Education Foundation, another public organization.

Venezuelan Ministry of Internal Affairs will fight crime by army forces. The Venezuelan government will deploy army units to fight crime, Interior Minister Miguel Rodriguez said yesterday, reports correspondent RIA "News" Dmitry Znamensky.

"It will be an important tool in ensuring the tranquility of citizens, the use of the military is such a power that will help to quickly reduce crime rates," says local television comrade Rodriguez.

Experts note that at this step the authorities of the country prompted an emergency situation with crime. According to official data, for 2012 a year the number of murders increased by 14%, exceeding 16 thousands. Calculated on the 100 of thousands of people, this figure is 54 killing. Independent observers cite other data: “Observatorio Venezolano de Violencia” published a report according to which almost 2012 thousand murders were committed in Venezuela in 21,7 year (73 murders per 100 thousand inhabitants).

Venezuela has probably decided to take the example of the former Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who in 2006 declared war on organized crime and used an army against the drug mafia. Calderon managed to catch or destroy more than half of the criminal leaders of the country.

Forty six percent. In Venezuela, an additional test began 46% of the votes cast in the presidential election. The check will last until June 4, transmits "Voice of Russia" with reference to RIA "News".

350 voting boxes will be checked every day. Their total number will be 10,5 thousands.

Opposition leader E. Capriles first agreed to check the ballot boxes, and later refused to send opposition representatives to this procedure. In his opinion, it is necessary to check not only the ballots themselves, but also the voting protocols, otherwise the process loses its meaning.

Golos Rossii reminds us that in the last 14 of April elections, 50,61% of voters voted for Nicolas Maduro, for its main rival Capriles - 49,12%. The opposition did not recognize the voting results, accusing the authorities of fraud, and filed a protest to the Supreme Court of the country.

Interestingly, during his visit to Mexico City, US President Barack Obama said in an interview with the TV channel Univision that the people of Venezuela are able to decide their own fate in the election of the head of state - without the use of practices that have long been rejected by most of Latin America.

Obama stressed that "the Venezuelan people must elect their leaders during legitimate elections." According to B. Obama, there is evidence that Venezuela regarding elections does not comply with the basic principles of human rights, democracy, freedom of the media and assembly. At the same time, the head of the United States avoided answering the question of whether he recognized Maduro as the legitimate president of Venezuela.

But Comrade Maduro has repeatedly stated that the United States was involved in attempts to destabilize the situation in the country.

Islamist riots in Bangladesh. The victims of the clashes between the police and opposition supporters, which occurred yesterday in the capital of Bangladesh, were ten people, even more than a hundred were injured, report "Vesti" with reference to ITAR-TASS. (As reported later RIA News" with reference to France Press, the victims of the clashes of radical Islamists and police in Bangladesh were already 22 people, and about 100 injured).

Nearly two hundred thousand people took to the streets to hold demonstrations against the latest court sentences accused of war crimes. They blocked traffic on almost all highways. The angry protesters set fire to the police station, shops and many cars.

The guards used rubber truncheons and shotguns firing plastic bullets. Eyewitnesses, reports "France-Press", claim that the police fired from service firearms.

The bodies of the three victims were taken to the capital medical college, the rest - in two private clinics. Six received gunshot wounds to the head, an employee at a hospital said.

The clashes with the police, reminiscent of "News", were provoked in Dhaka by activists of the largest Islamist party, Jamaat Islami, which has been holding protests since the beginning of February. They began after one of the party’s leaders, Abdul Kader, was convicted to life imprisonment for war crimes. A further increase in protests caused the death sentence Sayedi.

Sino-Indian warming. Yesterday, India and China simultaneously withdrew their troops from a disputed territory in the Himalayas, reports "Lenta.ru" with reference to Reuters. The decision on the withdrawal of troops, a source in the Indian Army told the agency, was made at a meeting of commanders of border detachments.

Indian military personnel moved a kilometer inland from the position they occupied from 16 April. The Chinese military also left the position they occupied from April 15, but how far they have moved away from the conventional line of the border is not yet known. The Indian side had previously stated that the Chinese military had deepened into its territory by 19 kilometers.

As Lenta recalled, on April 15 India announced that around 30 Chinese soldiers had set up camp in the highland region of Ladakh (northeast of Jammu and Kashmir). 16 numbers camp a hundred meters from the Chinese Indian soldiers broke.

Ladakh is actually divided between India and China, but there is no clear border line. India claimed that the Chinese military invaded its territory, China, in turn, declared that its military did not formally cross the border.

The incident in the area caused a wide resonance in Indian society, allowing the opposition to draw parallels with the Indo-Chinese war 1962 that began with the border conflict, in which China won.

The mountain forest fleet of Bolivia wants to go to sea. Ivan Yakovina ("Lenta.ru") spoke about the maritime initiatives of Evo Morales.

Bolivia - a country that has a naval force, but no access to the sea, announced its intention to appeal to the International Court of Justice. The defendant in the claim will be Chile.

The main base of the naval forces of Bolivia is located on the shores of the mountain lake Titicaca - at an altitude of 3800 meters above sea level and in 300 kilometers from the nearest coast. The bases are smaller in the selva along the banks of the Amazonia rivers.

Naval the paradox became a symbol of the national Bolivian dream - the return of the status of a sea power, which she possessed until the end of the XIX century. It was then that the coastal provinces were forced to transfer Chile. This happened as a result of the struggle for decomposed bird droppings (guano).

Chileans took over with their modern fleet. By 1883, the fighting was over. Under the terms of the truce, Peru and Bolivia lost rich guano provinces. In 1904, the truce turned into a permanent peace treaty. According to this document, Bolivia forever renounced claims to coastal lands, ceasing to be a maritime power. In exchange, the Chileans agreed to build a railway linking La Paz with one of their Pacific ports, and to ensure the unrestricted use of this route by Bolivians.

President Evo Morales caught up with the marine theme with great enthusiasm. According to his calculations, any country without a piece of the coast is doomed to poverty. The government has prepared a lawsuit in the International Court of Justice in The Hague. Bolivians are asking to recognize the 1904 agreement of the year as unfair and to review the results of the war that happened more than a hundred years ago. They will push that Chile won in the war of conquest, and the results of the Bolivian agreement were imposed by force.

Chileans do not respond to an invitation to court.

Park Geun-hye will talk with Obama. South Korean President Park Geun-hye arrived in the US for talks with President Barack Obama on the DPRK's nuclear program, said RIA Novosti correspondent Daria Krutova with reference to the agency "Renhap".

The United States was the first country that Park Geun-hye visited since taking office in February. According to Secretary of State for International Affairs and National Security Ju Chul Ki, the head of South Korea has high hopes for this trip, which is aimed at strengthening "future allied relations."

The heads of state will discuss the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula and other issues related to the DPRK. “We hope to achieve a termination of the North’s nuclear programs and to enlist US support in the main areas of our policy, including the“ trusting process ”on the Korean Peninsula,” said Ju Chul Guy.

South Korea’s policy of “trusting the process” implies an approach in which Seoul undertakes to strictly react to Pyongyang’s provocative actions, while at the same time encouraging North Korea to engage in dialogue and reduce tensions.

The presidential secretary also said that Park Geun-hye is planning to return to the issue of the peaceful atom. Earlier in April, Seoul was unable to obtain Washington’s permission to enrich uranium and reprocess spent nuclear fuel.

RIA Novosti political analyst Dmitry Kosyrev says:

“It was clear that from the very beginning all the extreme actions of Pyongyang that began this spring were aimed at persuading the South (and the US) to negotiate with specific methods. Moreover, Southerners understand this better than others, and they are quite ready to talk. Moreover, they took the first step. The current message of the North is a response to the offer of South Korean President Madame Pak Geun-hye about the start of negotiations. And this is the answer, in which, if you translate it from the colorful North Korean language, there is logic. Although there are overstated claims. But at first, in any trade, this is exactly what happens: it is necessary to request more, knowing that you will not receive everything anyway. ”


Today launched antisubmarine exercises of the US Navy and South Korea. As transmits correspondent ITAR-TASS Vasily Golovninreferring to military sources in Seoul, anti-submarine exercises in the Yellow Sea, which can cause a tough reaction from the DPRK, launched the US Navy and South Korea. Joint training will last until Friday.

In the maneuvers involved US nuclear submarine class "Los Angeles", warships and anti-submarine aircraft of the US Navy. The combined detachment of warships, submarines and aircraft is connected to the South Korean side. The exact number of forces involved is not reported.

There are reports that the US Navy strike group led by the Nimitz nuclear aircraft carrier can be sent to the exercises. The Ministry of Defense of South Korea does not confirm this data yet.

To arms, brothers! Judging by the results of a poll published last week by the University of Fairleigh Dickenson, three out of ten registered American voters believe that in the next few years there will be a need for an armed rebellion, reports Mixednews.ru with reference to tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com.

Among other things, the results of the study showed that 29% of Americans agree with the statement: "In the next few years, an armed revolution may be necessary to protect our rights and freedoms." Another 5% found it difficult to answer.

The poll, which ran from 22 to 28 in April, was conducted among 863 randomly selected registered voters across the country.

Joe vs Hillary? US Vice President Joseph Biden will fight in 2016 for the top government post in the country and will compete with Hillary Clinton. ABBC’s former governor of New Mexico Bill Richardson said this yesterday, according to correspondent ITAR-TASS Ivan Lebedev.

Mr. Richardson said: “I think that Joe Biden will not give up. I think that he will stand as a candidate. Hillary Clinton would be great, there is no doubt about it. But I know Biden for many years. He is one of those who always wanted to become president, and he knows how to pursue his own. ”

Corr. RIA "Novosti" recalls that earlier 70-year-old Biden already nominated his candidacy for the presidency of the United States from the Democratic Party, but at the stage of primaries in 2008, he lost to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. A little later, Obama invited an experienced senator as a partner in the election campaign and together with him defeated John McCain and Sarah Palin. Last year, a bunch of Obama-Biden repeated success in rivalry with Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.

As for the election of 2016 of the year, Biden has not yet spoken on this subject. Keeps the intrigue and Hillary Clinton.

Four Russia? Angelina Davydova in the article “Why Russians Cannot Create Opposition” ("Frankfurter Rundschau", Germany; source of translation - "InoSMI") writes that Russian society is divided into groups whose representatives share only a small number of values, plans and expectations. This is what prevents the protest movement from achieving success in the fight against the "current rulers."

“... And although the protest potential still remains large, a bitter realization arises that the movement has stalled. Therefore, it is time to talk about the structures of the population and their contradictions. Natalia Zubarevich, director of the regional programs of the Independent Institute for Social Policy, believes that at the present time we should speak of at least four parallel existing Russian societies that use the same language, but they do not have much in common with each other ... ”


The first group, according to the article, is creative (they are “furious”) citizens, who make up about one fifth of the total population of the country. Who is here?

Employees of offices, small and medium entrepreneurs, representatives of the so-called. “Creative class”, qualified specialists from poorly paid industries (education and health care are included here), and in addition people from academia and academia.

The first and most important source of information for them is the Internet. Most of them are able to adapt to social and economic changes. They are increasingly unhappy with the increasing scale of corruption, lack of investment and the lack of more attractive job offers.

Approximately 25% of the Russian population, the group that is distinguished by lower mobility and competitiveness, can be found in medium-sized industrial cities. People from this “Russia II” mainly work in large and economically inefficient enterprises. They are leading a grueling struggle for their jobs and social rights, almost defenseless in the face of economic change. “Russia II,” the article says, is susceptible to the effects of any kind of promise of quick changes and improved quality of life.

Russia III already covers 38% of the country's population living in small cities, villages and villages. First of all, they live by what the earth gives. "Russia III" is largely divorced from Moscow. These people consider themselves far from politics, they have low protest potential, which can increase only if their economic situation worsens, that is, pensions and wages will not be paid at all or it will be done irregularly, the author writes.

“Russia IV” is the population of the ethnic republics of the North Caucasus and southern Siberia, Angelina Davydova points out. The life of these people depends on the conflicts of the “local ruling clans”, on the constant redistribution of power, as well as on clashes of an ethnic and religious nature. For Russia IV, stability is relatively less important, because this segment relies on regular government assistance and investment.

According to Natalia Zubarevich, there is little in common between these four groups in terms of values, expectations, or desirable plans for the future. In addition, they are almost not related to each other on a network basis.

It is a strong trend regarding the use of social networks can have a negative impact on the protest movement. In a sense, Russian society falls into two parts: the post-Soviet society and the “2.0 web society”.

In Russia, the author sums up, a deep digital divide manifests itself. Institutional structures and representatives of civil society are poorly prepared, and social networks do not realize communication opportunities. The digital divide contributes to the split of society. Various groups of the population almost do not meet and do not develop mechanisms for solving problems.

Putin, Medvedev and others are among the most influential people in the world. Twenty-three Russian politicians and managers of large businesses in the Russian Federation are included in the list of the most influential people in the world from 500 names, which is published in “Foreign Policy” "Voice of Russia" with reference to RIA "News".

Russians include 23: President Vladimir Putin, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces Valery Gerasimov, Head of the Bank of Russia Sergey Ignatiev, Secretary of the Russian Security Council Nikolai Patrushev, Director of the FSB Alexander Bortnikov, Director of the Foreign Intelligence Service Mikhail Fradkov, Moscow Mayor Sergei Sobyanin.

Representatives of large businesses, including Alexey Miller, head of Gazprom, Vagit Alekperov, head of LUKoil, Igor Sechin, president of Rosneft, Igor Fridman, co-owner of Alpha, Vladimir Potanin, head of Interros holding, billionaire Alisher Usmanov, were included in the list. other. Along with them, the list also includes Semen Mogilevich (also known as Sergei Schneider), included by the FBI in the list of the “most wanted criminals”.

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  1. smart ass
    smart ass 6 May 2013 12: 28
    100
    I don’t know guys like you, but I will never go to Turkey to rest. And I urge everyone to this, let them eat their own tangerines
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 6 May 2013 12: 49
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      Hit the ruble in the Turkish economy. !!!! About Erdogan, I’ll say this, Whose cow would mumble, but be silent. How many thousands of Kurds with the filing of Erdogan were destroyed?
      1. hermes
        hermes 6 May 2013 13: 17
        63 th
        And how many people were killed during the Soviet Union represiah ?????
        1. GreatRussia
          GreatRussia 6 May 2013 13: 27
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          Quote: hermes

          If the oil price drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall), and then you will hit anyone on the economy ??

          Go Russian troll first learn before you learn Russia!
          1. hermes
            hermes 6 May 2013 13: 45
            48 th
            I don’t need to learn your language weight the world is learning in English))) and they need you to win China
            1. Armata
              Armata 6 May 2013 13: 48
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              Quote: hermes
              I don’t need to teach your language weight the world is learning in English)))
              Tady will push to the British sites go, do not clog the air here.
            2. GreatRussia
              GreatRussia 6 May 2013 13: 49
              19
              Quote: hermes
              I don’t need to learn your language weight the world is learning in English))) and they need you to encourage China

              So how do we understand you in that case if you are trying to propagate here by talking to us in gibberish? bully
              1. mansur
                mansur 6 May 2013 14: 29
                12
                Quote: GreatRussia
                So how do we understand you in that case if you are trying to propagate here by talking to us in gibberish? bully


                Like the Turkish theme, their defenders and admirers immediately appear and they are always the same, under the same flag, if they are loved like that, what they do on the Russian Military-Political and Patriotic website, let them go to Turkish and sing to them songs etm more and language know
                1. GreatRussia
                  GreatRussia 6 May 2013 14: 57
                  +7
                  Quote: mansur

                  Like the Turkish theme, their defenders and admirers immediately appear and they are always the same, under the same flag, if they are loved like that, what they do on the Russian Military-Political and Patriotic website, let them go to Turkish and sing to them all the more songs

                  They will be bored there. For there is absolutely nothing to sing about.
                2. xetai9977
                  xetai9977 6 May 2013 16: 34
                  -3
                  If you don’t want us to appear here, make the site domestic. Why do you think that your statements about foreign states are the ultimate truth, and the opposing side cannot speak out in its defense?
                  1. carbofo
                    carbofo 8 May 2013 16: 21
                    +1
                    Quote: xetai9977
                    the opposite side can not speak out in their defense?

                    We associate the keyword "Nasty" in the LGBT movement, and 85% of the population does not accept it.
                    Actually, the negative is not so much from the word as from what you write.
                    A comrade who is not at all comrade to us, with the nickname -hermes- said that they should learn English, I can only sympathize with trying to express an idea in 24 letters of the alphabet !!!
                    Read the story, my dear, I’m sure you will find there a lot of interesting things both about your country that you didn’t have, about other countries, about the wars that they fought and how they did it, maybe then the idea will appear in your head that Russia is the best neighbor for any sane nation.
                    Russia is more kind than evil, unlike the vast majority of other countries, we did not engage in genocide, did not conduct aggressive campaigns, expanding, we guaranteed protection and did not interfere in the way of life of peoples, education, culture, production grew.
                    I will immediately note some points in which you might try to blame me.
                    Not a single nation in the composition has forgotten its language, it was taught along with the state language (not counting the dissolved nations).
                    In Central Asia, that is, you, we fought mainly with bandits.
                    In the Caucasus, we fought not with the people but with the same bandits, in fact constant raids, and the requests of the Georgians to accept from the Empire and were the reason for the war in the Caucasus.
                    By the way, as far as I remember, you, like Ukraine, have never had a public education, in fact, you are now 22 years old!
                    1. xetai9977
                      xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 20
                      +4
                      firstly we are not central asia. in 2 English will somehow survive that you do not respect it, in 3 what did Russia do in the Caucasus, as it did not engage in an aggressive campaign?
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            4. Heccrbq
              Heccrbq 6 May 2013 14: 02
              14
              English is the language of robots, no emotional connotations, and you learn, learn it, the language of your bosses.
              1. klavyr
                klavyr 6 May 2013 16: 13
                10
                I wanted to fix it a bit: not the bosses, but the owners
              2. xetai9977
                xetai9977 6 May 2013 16: 37
                -5
                learn english, is it your way to be someone else's servant? Half of Russia knows English
                1. carbofo
                  carbofo 8 May 2013 16: 32
                  0
                  Formally, in Russia there are 3 massively studied languages, English, French, German.
                  The rest of the languages ​​that we learn are depending on the place, so you probably studied your native language, state Russian, when you studied, and if there were teachers, there were 3 European languages, from the above.
                  In a specialized institute, the range of languages ​​expanded significantly, at least to Italian, Arabic, Hindi, Chinese.
                  In general, in principle, if you wish, you could learn any.
                  As for the language of servants :)) the language of slaves is Hebrew, as it has been since the times of Egypt. And since the British and Americans owned colonies all over the world in the foreseeable past, they obviously didn’t scrub out toilets, so this definition stuck to the English language.
                2. Che
                  Che 10 May 2013 10: 31
                  0
                  English is a degradant of more ancient languages, such as Old Slavonic, and like every degradant loses wealth and emotionality. I do not insist on a point of view, but this problem is somehow seen.
            5. smile
              smile 6 May 2013 14: 12
              16
              hermes
              Tovarisch, herrrr.mes, your statement contains an unpleasant truth for you - you yourself recognized our strength ... and the whole world learning English doesn’t forget about it :)))) and for those who forget, let’s remind you ... thanks for that you accidentally slip the right thoughts. :)))))
              1. Rink
                Rink 6 May 2013 22: 21
                11
                Quote: smile
                you yourself recognized our strength ... and the whole world studying English does not forget about it :)))) and for those who forget, we recall ...


                At the beginning of the 19th century, Russians learned French in schools and universities. Result: they broke Napoleon and took Paris.
                At the beginning of the 20th century, Russians learned German, the result: they piled on Hitler and took Berlin.
                At the beginning of the 21st century, we learn English ... Well, we have never had such a rich choice! ..

                Turkey is time to put in place.
                Fighting with a NATO member is not necessary, but economic sanctions against Turkish light industry products, food products, Turkish construction companies and a decrease in energy supplies are an adequate response to the actions of the frenzied Fuhrer Erdogan. Of course, the Foreign Ministry must warn all Russian travel agencies about the undesirability of trips by Russian tourists to a country where a large number of Islamic extremists are present ...
                It will not be enough - other CSTO countries can join.

                Enough gingerbread to feed Erdogan's rabid dog!
                It is time for Russia to show a desire and ability to defend its interests.
            6. Oleg Rosskiyy
              Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 14: 55
              12
              Quote: hermes
              I don’t need to teach your language weight world studies in English

              So why are you talking in Russian here, go to the Anglo-Saxon website and bark in your English there, or that there are not enough brains to understand what they write there. One thing you correctly noted is that Everyone needs Russia to win,after all Russia - Winner Country, unlike your new owners.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 6 May 2013 16: 42
                0
                Pouring insults is not a sign of the mind. Want to polemicize, be so kind as to calm down and keep up appearances.
                1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                  Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 18: 37
                  +9
                  This is not an insult, but a fact, and then I defend my native, Russian language, and whose you? For your part, it looks like a lack of mind, and life according to the pattern prescribed by the states for you. Think about it, if there is anything.
                  1. xetai9977
                    xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 57
                    -7
                    Firstly, I didn’t drink brotherhood with you, and I don’t need to "poke". Apart from what is written in the comments for insults, then you have strange ideas about insults. Second, calmly, at your leisure, think about how much Russia gains by supporting the aggressor? And thirdly, I have already explained to READER (see below) the reason for our support for Turkey.
                    1. Oleg Rosskiyy
                      Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 21: 09
                      14
                      And I don’t drink at all, but at the expense of the aggressor, so didn’t Russia liberate you from the yoke of the Turkey you support, which trains and supplies terrorists in Syria at the moment. And there is no need for replicas, they say you did not ask about it, only the last liberated generation has the right to speak about it, and in 15-20 years your descendants (not excluded) will still curse you. By supporting these moral freaks, you yourself become the same freaks, so you can drink with them on the broodershaft, lick their latrine places, but you’re unlikely to achieve respect for yourself from them, and especially relations on an equal footing with them.
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                      2. xetai9977
                        xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 16
                        +2
                        actually, your "strategic partner" is engaged in licking
                      3. Oleg Rosskiyy
                        Oleg Rosskiyy 7 May 2013 14: 38
                        +1
                        No need to repeat, write something from yourself.
                      4. xetai9977
                        xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 24
                        +5
                        I HAVE ALREADY WRITTEN-ONCE AGAIN I WILL REPEAT BY LYSING THE WASTE PLACES YOURS DO !!!
                2. carbofo
                  carbofo 8 May 2013 16: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: xetai9977
                  And thirdly, I have already explained to READER (see below) the reason for our support for Turkey.

                  You, like the small island oil empire of Karkal and Kakar, as they call it?
                  You think that by helping bandits you will achieve good and profit, alas, this is the way past the gurus, if you are a Muslim!
                  First, Turkey supports supplying gunmen in Syria with weapons and supplies.
                  Accuses the President of Syria of crimes against his own people, without whose support he will die in the literal sense of the word, I do not see the truth here.
                  Hypocrisy and corruption for the sake of dubious benefits for the country, this is a betrayal of the interests of the country, this is an occasion for the Turks to Investigate its actions and then throw Endorgan from the tower onto the asphalt, you do not need a man at the head of the country who just wants to fight for personal gain.
                3. Che
                  Che 10 May 2013 10: 39
                  0
                  The wrong direction led Azerbaijan, the wrong one. How do you excuse this shit from this? Difficult, but necessary. We must go forward, and not behind the amers with their policy of ghoul.
        2. ughhh
          ughhh 6 May 2013 15: 45
          +5
          Quote: hermes
          I do not need to learn your language

          Meshelme-bezhelme or disagree ?!
        3. Natalia
          Natalia 6 May 2013 16: 17
          13
          Quote: hermes
          and they need you to win china

          And no one needs you, because an empty place .... tongue
          .... or maybe not for this, maybe because the pile of manure is unpromising and smells bad. winked
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 6 May 2013 16: 59
            -4
            Mutually ad infinitum !!!
      2. hayabusa777
        hayabusa777 6 May 2013 20: 11
        -2
        IF THE OIL PRICE drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall. Words belong to the Azerbaijani political scientist Vefa Quluzade
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 21: 17
          +8
          And Azerbaijan will take off from the influx of nomadic "democracy".
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 19
            0
            somehow survive
        2. Rink
          Rink 6 May 2013 23: 04
          10
          Quote: hayabusa777
          IF THE OIL PRICE drops to 60 bucks ...

          You can dream of course.
          Although for the oil price to fall, there is little for your desire to annoy Russia - there must be economic reasons. Moreover, if the price drops below $ 60, this will drastically reduce the income of such small raw materials appendages as your Azerbaijan, so playing for a decline is even against your own interests, because Azerbaijan depends on oil prices much more than Russia.
          Or, as they say, "to spite my mother, I'll frostbite my ears"? Oh well...

          However, Russia has enough strength to make such small stinkers as Qatar or finally rotten Azerbaijan simply cease to exist.
          Then the oil prices will be just wonderful!
          1. hayabusa777
            hayabusa777 7 May 2013 10: 22
            -2
            If there is a pritenzy pancake then send to a political scientist ..........
            1. Rink
              Rink 7 May 2013 10: 29
              +2
              Quote: hayabusa777
              If there is a pritenzy pancake then send to a political scientist ..........

              Demonstrate a lack of gray matter and an inability to learn a language?
              This is already evident.
          2. hayabusa777
            hayabusa777 7 May 2013 11: 06
            -4
            May Armenia help Kardashian AMIN!
        3. ultra
          ultra 6 May 2013 23: 50
          +3
          Quote: hayabusa777
          IF THE OIL PRICE drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall

          DO NOT WAIT! am
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 25
            +4
            All the will of God
        4. Simon
          Simon 7 May 2013 00: 24
          +5
          Or maybe Azerbaijan will suffer more from falling oil prices, didn’t you think about this, my friend? You do not produce anything other than oil. fool
          1. OTAKE
            OTAKE 7 May 2013 07: 16
            -7
            Quote: Simon
            Or maybe Azerbaijan will suffer more from falling oil prices, didn’t you think about this, my friend? You do not produce anything other than oil. fool

            The great mighty Soviet Union at the time, too, froze from oil prices, and choked on democracy, and it seemed to produce a lot of things, so what now? And what does Russia produce? In addition to tanks, airplanes, rackets, oil and gas? I have not yet learned to smear tanks on bread, and you? Can you put a rocket on yourself when it’s cold?
            1. Rink
              Rink 7 May 2013 10: 15
              +1
              Quote: OTAKE
              The great mighty Soviet Union at the time, too, froze from oil prices ...

              Do not believe the tales that are told to you by those who waged a secret war to destroy the USSR. (This is putting shadow on the wattle fence: since oil prices are to blame, it’s as if nobody else had anything to do with it ...)

              Yes, Russia produces high-tech, competitive weapons. What do you dislike? These are just the high-tech, high-tech products that all liberalists shout about the lack of - open your eyes wider and turn on the thought.

              And the fact that you can’t smear tanks with bread ... What can I tell you?
              Only a slave will not exchange a daily bowl with slops and a booth for humiliation to sit on a chain and endure beatings from the owner for half-starved freedom.
              You sell for bread and butter, you don’t need your tanks? So, soon you will have strangers ... But whether after this there will be bread and butter, another question.
              1. OTAKE
                OTAKE 7 May 2013 10: 33
                -4
                Only a slave will not exchange a daily bowl with slops and a booth for humiliation to sit on a chain and endure beatings from the owner for half-starved freedom.

                Is it better to be a slave within your own country?

                You are selling for bread and butter, you do not need your tanks? So, soon you will have strangers ... But whether after this there will be bread and butter, another question.

                All countries that are supposedly "sold out" (again, according to your logic) to the Americans, or to the ZOG, live well, for example Israel, South Korea, Japan, the EU. We see who stayed with Russia, Armenia, Abkhazia, South Ossetia (I hope everyone understands what place they are in economically), even the unloved Georgians turned their faces to the west and they started to move for the better, I can say the same about Azerbaijan. What can Russia offer the rest of the world to be attracted to? Nothing. The USSR even had an ideology, which no
                1. Rink
                  Rink 7 May 2013 11: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: OTAKE
                  Is it better to be a slave within your own country?

                  Well, if you do not see another alternative, you will be a slave.
                  Looks like a vocation.

                  Georgians began to live better, you say? Yes, while they were being prepared for "confrontation" with Russia, the amers literally took them for maintenance - so much money they pumped there. But let's look at the Balts? while they were playing the role of a small but smelly dog ​​- they were fed. Who needs them now? 15-20 years will pass at such a pace, and their names will remain only in history textbooks.
                  So let's look at Georgia in five to ten years? just like in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Russia is only four years old, as it helped them get away from the Georgians with the Americans. So, Georgia and America have brought them to this state.

                  And Azerbaijan ... well, in time we will also look at Azerbaijan. While you are "dizzy" from suddenly dumped wealth, do you see the glory of Qatar haunted?

                  Europe is on the verge of collapse, America chooses: civil war, world war, or just quietly deflate like a bursting soap bubble? Alaska was about to sell back to Russia ...
                  You have almost no domestic market - to whom will you sell your oil in the post-capitalist world?
                  1. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 11: 20
                    -5
                    Georgians began to live better, you say? yes, while they were being prepared for "confronting" Russia, the amers literally took them for maintenance - they pumped so much money there

                    In Georgia, at least with the law enforcement agencies, they brought order, and with the roads, DPSniks do not take bribes, the police also, Russia even to this level to saw and saw.)

                    So let's look at Georgia in five to ten years? just like in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Russia is only four years old, as it helped them get away from the Georgians with the Americans. So, Georgia and America have brought them to this state.

                    But I noticed a different trend, all the countries that at least somehow got in touch with Russia / the USSR are now in full ass, Iraq, Libya, Syria, S. Korea, Tajikistan, it seems to me if Russia had not climbed into the Karabakh conflict, he himself I’d even resolve myself, absolutely like the Georgian-Ossetian, absolutely like the Arab-Israeli, we just have people in our leadership who put on their own people, big and fat, not like there, on some Arabs , Armenians or Azerbaijanis, the fact remains, the one who is friends with Russia sooner or later will be in the position of Syria.

                    Europe is on the verge of collapse, America chooses: civil war, world war, or just quietly deflate like a bursting soap bubble?

                    Did Misha Leontyev tell you this on the first channel? How many years have we heard this, and America and Europe have been and are, and the Union has collapsed, without noise and dust, this leads to certain considerations.
                  2. kanarias
                    kanarias 7 May 2013 12: 23
                    0
                    Georgians do not take bribes, from this alone it is already ridiculous
                  3. xetai9977
                    xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 34
                    +4
                    nevertheless it is a fact
                2. Rink
                  Rink 7 May 2013 12: 32
                  -1
                  Quote: OTAKE
                  In Georgia, at least with the law enforcement agencies, they brought order, and with the roads, DPSniks do not take bribes, the police also, Russia even to this level to saw and saw.)

                  How did this big-breasted singer sing?
                  "And he told me stories ... For three slices of sausage."

                  Law enforcement - are you talking about torture in prisons, probably?

                  Have the roads been repaired? well done! There are so many of that Georgia that they could line their roads with dollar bills by the billions pumped in there ...

                  Georgia sold its sovereignty to America for 30 pieces of silver. Now they are eating away the money received. I repeat, let's see what will happen to Georgia a few years after the cessation of pumping American money there. Then it will become clear that Georgia itself can? how democracy will shine there without free bucks.
              2. xetai9977
                xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 30
                +2
                Alaska are going to sell Russia? when and for how much?
            2. JIaIIoTb
              JIaIIoTb 7 May 2013 11: 17
              +1
              Of course Georgia is "on horseback"! Having lost 40% of the territory through their own stupidity!
              Azerbaijan thinks that he is also on horseback, Turkey will protect him, he will also protect him, like America Georgia. This is not a threat, this is a warning about the actions of Azerbaijan towards Armenia.
              Sincerely.
              1. OTAKE
                OTAKE 7 May 2013 11: 39
                +2
                Quote: JIaIIoTb
                Of course Georgia is "on horseback"! Having lost 40% of the territory through their own stupidity!
                Azerbaijan thinks that he is also on horseback, Turkey will protect him, he will also protect him, like America Georgia. This is not a threat, this is a warning about the actions of Azerbaijan towards Armenia.
                Sincerely.

                Well, that’s right, oh these stupid Georgians retreated, the soldier regretted, here we have another matter and we will put up a platoon for Ramzanka Dyrov, and for some Kokoity, and for Sargsyan, they will stand up for defense, in general, Russia is a generous soul, and Ramzanka will throw some money on the new Meseratti so that there is no extra buhurt, and Kokoity is on the cottage, in general, everything is in order .. :)
                By the way, a certain Vadyan Galustyan (the one on the left) sends greetings and wild thanks to the Armenian people from the Armenian people :)
              2. JIaIIoTb
                JIaIIoTb 7 May 2013 11: 48
                0
                Georgia’s stupidity is that it wanted to shoot our soldiers from the peacekeeping battalion with impunity.
                Judging by the rest of the stream .... let's say consciousness))) It is clear that you are not indifferent to Kadyrov)) can he confess to him? You look better and you will read the line and not the vision))).
                Sincerely.
              3. OTAKE
                OTAKE 7 May 2013 11: 57
                +2
                Quote: JIaIIoTb
                Georgia’s stupidity is that it wanted to shoot our soldiers from the peacekeeping battalion with impunity.

                oh this peacekeeping battalion .. 30 000 thousand people, and 4000 units of armored vehicles + militias

                Judging by the rest of the stream .... let's say consciousness))) It is clear that you are not indifferent to Kadyrov)) can he confess to him? You look better and you will read the line and not the vision))).

                Sorry, sorry, this is you at the wrong place, I don’t know about you, but I am not indifferent to women. :) You can continue the search for like-minded gay men, preferably away from me. )
        5. Che
          Che 10 May 2013 10: 48
          0
          Quote: OTAKE
          All countries that are supposedly "sold out" (again, according to your logic) to the Americans, or to the ZOG, live well, for example Israel, South Korea, Japan, the EU. We see who stayed with Russia, Armenia, Abkhazia, South Ossetia (In what place they are in economic terms, I hope everyone understands),


          Sold for lentil stew, human weakness knows no bounds, and so great civilizations perish. We ourselves need to move forward, and not lick the fifth point amers for grub.
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 33
            +6
            japan, yu. korea, israel gave up for a soup - "brilliant thought"
        6. Che
          Che 10 May 2013 10: 58
          0
          Quote: OTAKE
          All countries that are supposedly "sold out" (again, according to your logic) to the Americans, or to the ZOG, live well, for example Israel, South Korea, Japan, the EU.


          All great civilizations disappeared selling for lentil stew, instead of following the path of development. Not everything is measured by the stomach, especially by the western "grub".
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  3. xetai9977
    xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 02
    -2
    Simon
    but isn’t it the same for you?
    1. Rink
      Rink 7 May 2013 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: xetai9977
      but isn’t it the same for you?

      Thank God no.
      Do not deceive yourself or others.
      However, you yourself something and do not deceive, - you know what is wrong.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 38
        +2
        we see perfectly well that a large country is looking for enemies wherever they are not, and has a "strategic partner" who looks at it like a cash cow
        1. carbofo
          carbofo 8 May 2013 16: 48
          0
          Our strategic partner is our enemy.
          We do not forget this.
          Everyone wants a warm place in the sun, not everyone has enough space.
  4. xetai9977
    xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 27
    +6
    it seems so to you
  5. xetai9977
    xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 28
    +5
    it seems so to you
  • brelok
    brelok 6 May 2013 13: 49
    18
    Quote: hermes
    And how many people were killed during the Soviet Union represiah ?????

    Armenians remember? Or did the Turks forget everything? Be quiet better.
    1. Gari
      Gari 6 May 2013 14: 38
      35
      The Turkish Prime Minister called Bashar al-Assad “the butcher” and “killer”, and at the same time warned that he was waiting for the wrath of God, the channel “RT” reports.

      Up cynicism - in the country where the Armenian Genocide was carried out, the Greeks and Assyrians at the beginning of the 20th century and not only not recognizing, but rejecting the impudent, conquered the half of Cyprus and where the last 30 years waged war with the Kurds.
      1. P-15
        P-15 6 May 2013 15: 54
        13 th
        How tired you are with your "genocide" - be worried, rush around the world. If the so-called "genocide" you call took place, why won't you open your archives as Turkey did?
        And also, almost 100 years have passed since the time of the so-called "genocide" by you, and more than half a century has passed since the genocide against the Slavic peoples perpetrated by Hitler. But for some reason, the Russians and many other Slavic peoples do not vote about it
        1. Gari
          Gari 6 May 2013 16: 29
          +9
          Quote: P-15
          How tired you are with your "genocide" - be worried, rush around the world. If the so-called "genocide" you call took place, why won't you open your archives as Turkey did?


          What do we mean, if all almost all the leading countries of the world, including the State Duma of Russia, admitted that there have been, I will not here official confirmations, records of ambassadors, missionaries, testimonies of Russian soldiers and officers, I’ll just say how the Turks killed my great-grandfather’s family, and so in almost every Armenian family what archives are open with us, you can come to the Genocide Museum - you can take it and forget it and

          why do you always protect the Turks like this, to one of your fellow countrymen what and why do not protect him
          1. P-15
            P-15 6 May 2013 16: 50
            -5
            I’m very curious. Let’s say tomorrow, God forbid, war, and the citizens of your country but not of the titular nationality will rebel and begin to help your enemy and not just help, but will begin to run across the enemy’s entire regiments and battalions. What’s your action? Naturally, you will begin to carry out repressions by all possible methods according to the law of wartime. This is the law of war — not to allow the existence of a fifth column in its rear. And the Armenians at that time were Turkish citizens. And any state would do that.
            With such success, the Spanish genocide against the Incas and Aztecs, the British and the French against the Indians of North America, Japan against China can also be recognized. The other half is genocide on the floor of the globe. The war has a cruel face.
            1. Gari
              Gari 6 May 2013 16: 54
              +5
              You always change the subject just to whitewash your brothers of the Turks
              1. P-15
                P-15 6 May 2013 17: 08
                -4
                No, I don’t change the subject, but simply asked a question in the forehead. But you are already starting to slip. Because there is nothing to cover, and you and all Armenians know the truth about the fictional genocide. But it’s true that it’s bitter, and it’s not very pleasant to admit that you fool the whole world when this truth pops up. It is you in Russia who can rub the topic - that they say the Armenians and Russian Christian brothers, (although you are essentially Gregorian) as you rubbed the theme in Azerbaijan - Armenians and Azerbaijanis are Caucasians. We have seen your true face, but the Russians have not yet.
                1. sanych your division
                  sanych your division 6 May 2013 22: 20
                  +2
                  For example, Stalin only overpowered the Chechens and did not cut them out for treason. mine got more. Why are there so many Azeris?
                2. ayyildiz
                  ayyildiz 6 May 2013 22: 39
                  -2
                  The same Turkey did hi
                3. mansur
                  mansur 6 May 2013 23: 36
                  +2
                  Quote: sanych your division
                  For example, Stalin only overpowered the Chechens and did not cut them out for treason. mine got more. Why are there so many Azeris?

                  Exactly a lot
                4. P-15
                  P-15 7 May 2013 08: 44
                  +1
                  Stalin resettled the Chechen not for betrayal, but because he was very afraid of the formation of a fifth column on the southern borders. But how many of them reached the new place alive ?? Not trying to ask?
              2. Simon
                Simon 7 May 2013 00: 34
                0
                Learn the history of the Azerbaijanian! If it weren’t for the Russians, then the Turks would have slaughtered all the Armenians, they didn’t spare anyone, not the elderly, not children, not women. The villages were cut out. A good ruler should take care of his subjects, no matter what nationality he is.
              3. Yarbay
                Yarbay 7 May 2013 00: 42
                0
                Quote: Simon
                Learn the history of the Azerbaijanian! If it weren’t for the Russians, then the Turks would have slaughtered all the Armenians, they didn’t spare anyone, not the elderly, not children, not women. The villages were cut out. A good ruler should take care of his subjects, no matter what nationality he is.


                That you teach history !!!
                Enlighten !!
                I do not want to repeat a hundred times !!
                Read there I wrote!
                If you are interested, I’ll send it again!
                http://topwar.ru/27348-obraschenie-prezidenta-ssha-baraka-obamy-po-povodu-genoc
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                http://topwar.ru/27348-obraschenie-prezidenta-ssha-baraka-obamy-po-povodu-genoci
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        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 54
          +3
          Quote: P-15
          . And the Armenians at that time were Turkish citizens. And any state would do that.
          This was discussed in detail recently!
          http://topwar.ru/27348-obraschenie-prezidenta-ssha-baraka-obamy-po-povodu-genoci
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        3. Gari
          Gari 6 May 2013 17: 09
          +4
          The Armenian Genocide is a genocide organized and carried out in 1915 (according to some sources, it lasted until 1923 in the territories controlled by the Ottoman authorities. The genocide was carried out through physical extermination and deportation, including the displacement of civilians under conditions leading to imminent death.
          The Armenian Genocide was carried out in several stages: conscription into the Turkish army and disarmament and extermination of Armenian soldiers (men), selective deportation of Armenians from border areas, adoption of a law on expulsion, mass deportation and killing of Armenians.
          The day of Genocide is considered to be April 24 when the Armenian elite of Istanbul, writers, deputies and other prominent figures of Turkey of Armenian nationality were arrested and deported.
          But it began long before these events: Massacres in 1894-1896, which claimed the lives of many tens, and even hundreds of thousands of Armenians, consisted of three main episodes: the massacre in Sasun, the murders of Armenians throughout the empire in the fall and winter of 1895, and the massacres in Istanbul and in the Van district, which was the cause of the protests of local Armenians, in October 1895, Turks killed and burned about a thousand Armenians alive in Trabzon on October 8, XNUMX. This event became a forerunner of a series of mass killings of Armenians in Eastern Turkey organized by the Ottoman authorities: Erzincan, Erzurum, Gumyushkhan, Bayburt, Urfa and Bitlis
          1. P-15
            P-15 6 May 2013 17: 16
            -7
            laughing Talking with you is useless, you are about Ivan and you're talking about a boob.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 6 May 2013 17: 23
              +2
              Quote: P-15
              Talking with you is useless, you are about Ivan and you're talking about a boob.

              If you are to me, then I'm sorry young))) pioneer))))))))))))
            2. P-15
              P-15 7 May 2013 08: 33
              +4
              No))) I’m not for you, but for Garik. And how you don't come here, he is always trying to shove his "genocide" in any topic more or less connected with Turkey or Azerbaijan. Grants are probably working out)
            3. Yarbay
              Yarbay 7 May 2013 12: 11
              +3
              Quote: P-15
              No))) I’m not for you, but for Garik. And how you don't come here, he is always trying to shove his "genocide" in any topic more or less connected with Turkey or Azerbaijan. Grants are probably working out)

              I already understood)) he just blacklisted me with fear and I do not see his pathetic attempts in the comments, so I was surprised to your comment, there seems to be nobody there except me)))))
            4. P-15
              P-15 7 May 2013 12: 32
              +3
              Well, how could it be otherwise)) head in the sand) like that bird that runs a lot
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 17: 27
        -7
        I HAVE GOD, TO SPEAK WITH AN ARMENIAN - THE SAME THAT THE PEAS ON THE WALL. ONLY RESPONSE - "GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE"
      3. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 6 May 2013 18: 32
        13
        Quote: xetai9977
        I HAVE GOD, TO SPEAK WITH AN ARMENIAN - THE SAME THAT THE PEAS ON THE WALL. ONLY RESPONSE - "GENOCIDE, GENOCIDE"

        Well, go talk to the Jews, question the Holocaust, as you say enough, come back, and I'll see what diameter the "emergency exit" will be flaring for you there. laughing
      4. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 56
        -7
        NOT Jews harm us. So the claim is not addressed
      5. sanych your division
        sanych your division 6 May 2013 22: 22
        +1
        who? Tell me, then everyone was exhausted
      6. xetai9977
        xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 11
        +3
        you will still be tormented in the near future, when the Armenians sit on your neck
    2. Rakti-kali
      Rakti-kali 14 May 2013 20: 10
      0
      Quote: xetai9977
      NOT Jews harm us. So the claim is not addressed

      That's right, you are harming yourself with your national chauvinism.
  • Gari
    Gari 6 May 2013 20: 07
    +2
    Quote: Rakti-Kali
    Well, go talk to the Jews, question the Holocaust, as you say enough, come back, and I'll see what diameter the "emergency exit" will be flaring for you there.

    I don’t even want to imagine the consequences of such a trip.
  • P-15
    P-15 7 May 2013 09: 20
    +4
    You probably know this from your own experience. ???
  • Simon
    Simon 7 May 2013 00: 38
    +1
    Yeah, and we are talking about chock, and you, about the Turk, have not gone far, the same way. Turk, he is the Turk.
  • ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 6 May 2013 17: 31
    +3
    This arrogance suits you lying and do not blush. Your avatar specifically went to the Balkans to kill Turks, why don't you write about it, 527.000 Turks only Armenians killed why don't you write about them
    1. Gari
      Gari 6 May 2013 23: 43
      +3
      Quote: ayyildiz
      This arrogance suits you lying and do not blush. Your avatar specifically went to the Balkans to kill Turks, why don't you write about it, 527.000 Turks only Armenians killed why don't you write about them

      My avatar, as you put it
      Andranik Torosovich Ozanyan is one of the leaders of the Armenian national liberation movement of the late XIX - early XX centuries, a national hero of the Armenian people. National Hero of Bulgaria [1]. Also known as commander Andranik (General Andranik (in the West) and Andranik Pasha (in the East). General of the Russian Army

      Andranik met the First World War in Bulgaria, whose government, however, was inclined to an alliance with Germany against Russia, therefore, Andranik leaves Bulgaria with the last Russian ship and through Yalta, Tuapse, Poti gets to Tiflis, where on August 12, 1914 he meets with the assistant commander in chief of the Caucasian army General Myshlaevsky and declares readiness to participate in a possible war against Turkey (Russia declared war on Turkey on November 2, 1914

      The rich experience of military operations against the Turkish troops and thorough knowledge of the specifics of the future theater of military operations are in demand by the Russian command, and Andranik is instructed to form and lead the first volunteer Armenian squad (detachment). The team, formed from Armenians who did not have Russian citizenship, as well as Russian Armenians who were not subject to conscription, later distinguished as a part of Russian troops of the Caucasian Army in the battles for the capture of Van, Bitlis, Mush, in the battle of Dilman (April 1915). Andranik himself for personal courage in the battles of 1915-1916. He was awarded the St. George medal of the fourth degree, the St. George crosses of the fourth and third degrees, the orders of St. Stanislav of the second degree with swords and St. Vladimir of the fourth degree, the Order of the Knight of the Legion of Honor (France), the Order of the Battle Cross of the second degree (Kingdom of Greece) and the Order of the Holy Gregory the Illuminator of the first degree (Mother See of Holy Etchmiadzin).
      His popularity among the soldiers was so great that the Russian command awarded him the rank of major general and assigned the command of the division.
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 23
      +4
      in general, his name is Andranik the one-eared. He lost his spirit for treason
    3. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 7 May 2013 12: 25
      +4
      Why don’t you open archives in Yerevan and Boston? Are you afraid that a lot of things will come to the surface?

      By the way, Russia gave some archives to Turkey! And they turned out to be very useful! !
  • hayabusa777
    hayabusa777 7 May 2013 11: 07
    -2
    Genocide is your caper) topic))) and Kim Kardashian is sitting at the head of your diaspora))))))
  • mansur
    mansur 6 May 2013 17: 30
    +8
    The recognition of the Armenian Genocide is a formal act (action) of the state, stating the fact that in 1915 the authorities of the Ottoman Empire organized and carried out genocide of the Armenian population in the territories controlled by it.
    The Armenian Genocide was organized and carried out in 1915 (according to some sources, it lasted until 1923) in territories controlled by the authorities of the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Turkey, using physical destruction and deportation, including the displacement of civilians under conditions leading to imminent death.
    Most of the Armenian diaspora arose as a result of the Armenian Genocide.
    Since 1915, world powers have adopted resolutions condemning the massacre of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey. The United States three times (1916, 1919, 1920) adopted similar resolutions, but the Ottoman Empire could not be stopped. In 1915, France, Great Britain and Russia also issued a joint declaration condemning the extermination of Armenians.
    Already in the 1940s. the creator of the term genocide, Rafael Lemkin, tried to achieve recognition of the genocide of the Armenian people by the United Nations

    The Armenian Genocide was recognized by the Council of Europe (1998, 2001), the European Parliament (1987, 2000, 2002, 2005), the UN Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities, the UN Commission on War Crimes (1948), the World Council of Churches
    Russia. On April 14, 1995, the State Duma adopted a statement condemning the organizers of the Armenian Genocide of 1915-1922 and declaring April 24 to be the Day of Remembrance of the Victims of the Armenian Genocide.

    The first mass killings of Armenians officially recognized and condemned the Parliament of Uruguay (1965)
    Belgium
    Ватикан
    Venezuela
    Germany
    Greece
    Italy
    Canada (1996 [, 2002, 2004
    Cyprus[
    Lebanon
    Lithuania
    Netherlands
    Poland
    Slovakia
    Uruguay
    France (1998, 2000, 2001, 2006)
    Chile
    Switzerland - National Council (lower house of parliament)
    Sweden
    USA: 43 from 50 US states recognize the Armenian Genocide.
    Ukraine: Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Verkhovna Rada of the ARC recognizes the Armenian Genocide. [
  • Rink
    Rink 6 May 2013 23: 17
    +2
    Quote: P-15
    ... With such success, one can recognize the genocide of Spain against the Incas and Aztecs, the British and the French against the Indians of North America, Japan against China. The other half is genocide on the floor of the globe. The war has a cruel face.

    Drop dead !!!
    Genocide - the destruction of civilians on a national basis. By all countries included in the UN, genocide is recognized as a crime against humanity and has no statute of limitations, and is not related to military action. The genocide carried out during hostilities is also on the list of war crimes.
    Do you justify genocide as something ordinary and necessary? !!

    It is time for the UN to pay attention to Azerbaijan! I think it might come to exclusion from the organization if it turns out that this is the official position of the country's leadership.

    PS And do not poke at Russia, and do not distort the story! Russia has never destroyed on an ethnic basis - neither in Soviet times, nor before that.
    If there were great human losses at the breakdown of eras, then usually Russians suffered even more than other peoples.

    PPS And you only for this post could be banned.
    1. P-15
      P-15 7 May 2013 09: 15
      +2
      Listen, there was no genocide against the Armenians. IT WASN'T !! You are all grown-up people. Do you really not understand, or pretend you don’t understand? You just look how they got excited when Germany spoke about the opening of its archives of the First World War.
  • ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 6 May 2013 17: 36
    0
    Greek soldiers killed a Turk with an ax!

    We open archives why don’t you come to research them and don’t open ours?
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 53
    +2
    Quote: P-15
    How tired you are with your "genocide" - be worried, rush around the world. If the so-called "genocide" you call took place, why won't you open your archives as Turkey did?
    And also, almost 100 years have passed since the time of the so-called "genocide" by you, and more than half a century has passed since the genocide against the Slavic peoples perpetrated by Hitler. But for some reason, the Russians and many other Slavic peoples do not vote about it

    Yes, let’s read today the info in Google translator when you write the Armenians it translates as Genocide)))) The latches and the truth, right now, I don’t know whether they fixed it or not, but they remained on the sites, I’m sitting on the tablet and I can’t throw it so inconveniently to write on the tablet ( (((
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  • ayyildiz
    ayyildiz 6 May 2013 17: 33
    +1
    before the execution the old man prays, photo from the Balkans. soldiers of the Bulgarians
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 6 May 2013 19: 29
      +5
      1. Soldiers - Bulgarians. It would seem, what have the Armenians to do with it?
      2. So who once captured whom and who ruled over 400-500 years by force?
      Surely the Turkish nation did not deserve such an attitude from oppressed neighbors?
      1. Gari
        Gari 6 May 2013 20: 09
        +2
        Quote: cdrt
        1. Soldiers - Bulgarians. It would seem, what have the Armenians to do with it?
        2. So who once captured whom and who ruled over 400-500 years by force?
        Surely the Turkish nation did not deserve such an attitude from oppressed neighbors?

        And they are always Armenians
        And to slaughter and kill morally only the Turks
        1. Apollo
          Apollo 6 May 2013 20: 25
          0
          Quote: Gari
          And they are always Armenians
          And to slaughter and kill morally only the Turks


          You have left your mark everywhere, it’s interesting and how you always manage to do it. Everywhere to spoil and provoke. laughing
          1. Gari
            Gari 6 May 2013 23: 47
            +2
            Quote: Apollon
            You have left your mark everywhere, it’s interesting and how you always manage to do it. Everywhere to spoil and provoke.

            and there are many of you, and I am alone, there was a crown about Turkey, as everyone has always transferred to my nation and only with humiliation
            about shitting, I think you did not go beyond decency
            1. P-15
              P-15 7 May 2013 08: 39
              0
              Who alone is YOU !!!! ???? Yes, one, you would not sit rocky and breathe to the hoot.
              It's just that you push your "genocide" into any topic
          2. hayabusa777
            hayabusa777 7 May 2013 10: 59
            -1
            Those who want us to lose the war I curse their amine
    2. Oleg Rosskiyy
      Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 21: 27
      +2
      Did the old man himself tell you about the future execution? You will lay out all the facts every minute, and we'll see.
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 6 May 2013 21: 53
        +5
        Where do you think they go with their hands tied?

        Will lay out others?
        1. Oleg Rosskiyy
          Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 22: 38
          -3
          Go to the photo session. Painfully high-quality pictures, as if painted yesterday. Prove that it was all really, and not the falsification, which now has so much.
          1. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 6 May 2013 22: 48
            +1
            Did the trolites come here? laughing
            1. Oleg Rosskiyy
              Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 23: 15
              0
              Whoever you lead with is what you need. Not all of you to troll people, the blogger of easy virtue.
            2. xetai9977
              xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 40
              +4
              what a "culture" !!! "well done!!!"
          2. Oleg Rosskiyy
            Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 23: 34
            +1
            It turns out interesting, a person who wants to understand the details and find out the truth is a troll, and a provocateur merging disu turns out to be an elf or something. Only there is one nuance, the troll is a mutating elf. You seem a little left. smile laughing sad belay wassat
          3. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 7 May 2013 00: 00
            +1
            Photos from the Bulgarian archive comrade! wink hi
          4. antidialer
            antidialer 7 May 2013 12: 12
            -1
            What did the Turks do in Bulgaria? And in Greece? And in the Balkans?
          5. OTAKE
            OTAKE 7 May 2013 12: 16
            +4
            Quote: antidialer
            What did the Turks do in Bulgaria? And in Greece? And in the Balkans?

            The same thing that Russia is doing in Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Karachay-Cherkessia, Buryatia, Yakutia and so on
        2. Oleg Rosskiyy
          Oleg Rosskiyy 7 May 2013 14: 45
          -1
          And where exactly are the Bulgarians, by chance not the ones that hang, but maybe it is generally in Romania or other parts of Western Europe? Not convincing like a Pasha Buzu.
        3. Oleg Rosskiyy
          Oleg Rosskiyy 7 May 2013 15: 11
          0
          No faces are visible from behind the bags, maybe these are other people? Only the exhumation of the remains will help you, and it’s not at all 100%, so do not strain your dear pasha-buzu, any attempt to prove something can be brought to complete absurdity if you want. Consult your lenders or your temporary hi - an ally of the "professor".
        4. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 7 May 2013 15: 31
          +3
          Actually, I myself was born in these parts and I know something by hearsay hi
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 7 May 2013 05: 47
    0
    Quote: Oleg Rosskiyy
    Prove that it was all really, and not the falsification, which now has so much.

    For the affairs that they did, including Bulgaria, the execution by hanging is too humane for them.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz 7 May 2013 12: 12
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      For the affairs that they did, including Bulgaria, the execution by hanging is too humane for


      They executed ordinary villagers in order to scare people and force them into resettlement to Turkey! hi
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 7 May 2013 07: 19
    +1
    Quote: Gari
    The Turkish Prime Minister called Bashar al-Assad “the butcher” and “killer”, and at the same time warned that he was waiting for the wrath of God, the channel “RT” reports.

    Up cynicism - in the country where the Armenian Genocide was carried out, the Greeks and Assyrians at the beginning of the 20th century and not only not recognizing, but rejecting the impudent, conquered the half of Cyprus and where the last 30 years waged war with the Kurds.

    Erdogan personally cut out 100 billion Armenians, I declare with absolute optimism
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 31
      -1
      they have a "genocide" like in a bank - every year they run up interest
      1. Oleg Rosskiyy
        Oleg Rosskiyy 7 May 2013 14: 58
        -1
        Sometimes in the right direction Gutar. Think of the contents that are in your head or on the head, how many generations have not yet been born from those people killed by the Turks? Interest will only grow.
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 18
    +2
    Well, there arose
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 29
      0
      Well, it arose again
      I'm talking about "genocide"
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 6 May 2013 16: 57
    -4
    for you, the Armenian standard. well, keep thinking like that, and plump billions of dollars annually into that black hole. and let them continue to use you in their interests, but not in yours
    1. AntonR7
      AntonR7 7 May 2013 08: 43
      +2
      You might think you are more honest with us ?! Armenians at least understand what gratitude is!
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 43
        -3
        aha, and in gratitude they call you "rus-corn", blow up the subway, kicked out all the Russians.
        1. AntonR7
          AntonR7 8 May 2013 19: 42
          0
          Separate, inadequate individuals everywhere I think are enough.
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 46
            +4
            there is inadequate the whole country
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 7 May 2013 12: 16
        +2
        Quote: AntonR7
        You might think you are more honest with us ?! Armenians at least understand what gratitude is!

        Really)))) ????

        and about your n and h and f s your write and you are called)))))

        http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=14923&st=3800&p=909007&#entry90900


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        http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=41969&st=1250&p=926813&#entry92681


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        http://forum.hayastan.com/index.php?showtopic=41969&st=1550&p=934158&#entry93415


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        1. AntonR7
          AntonR7 8 May 2013 19: 43
          0
          Are you sure that there are Armenians, not provocateurs or just separate Russophobes.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 10 May 2013 21: 42
            +1
            Quote: AntonR7
            Are you sure that there are Armenians, not provocateurs or just separate Russophobes.

            Of course I’m sure!
            This is the most popular Armenian forum, there from all over the world to register))) ah you don’t know your ally)))))

            Most of all, I’m interested in the fact that there’s not just one blogging Armenian who would answer individual * Russophobes *))))))))
    2. antidialer
      antidialer 7 May 2013 12: 18
      -3
      And why do you suddenly feel sorry for our billions?
      And by the way, I can’t recall a single Azerbaijani who became famous in the service of Russia. The diametrically opposite situation with the Armenians.
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      2. OTAKE
        OTAKE 7 May 2013 12: 22
        +3
        Quote: antidialer
        And why do you suddenly feel sorry for our billions?
        And by the way, I can’t recall a single Azerbaijani who became famous in the service of Russia. The diametrically opposite situation with the Armenians.

        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_азербайджанцев_удос
        try_toyennye_Heroes_Sovetskogo_Union try, see
      3. xetai9977
        xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 44
        +4
        you just have a short memory
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 7 May 2013 07: 19
    -2
    Quote: brelok
    Quote: hermes
    And how many people were killed during the Soviet Union represiah ?????

    Armenians remember? Or did the Turks forget everything? Be quiet better.

    You try to answer for your people at least once, which you also repressed, shot, dispossessed, and much more than Armenians, and then intercede for spherical Armenians in a vacuum, where more than half the relatives were sitting, who were in the Gulags, who weren’t watered . articles. And you already jump out of your pants, you don’t know how to put in a word for Armenians, it’s visible, you don’t see logs in your eye
    1. antidialer
      antidialer 7 May 2013 12: 27
      -1
      I can understand hermes, hetai9977. They at least sit in Azerbaijan and from there spoil Russia. But you, otake2, are probably tormented every day in Russia. This is what kind of patience you need to have - to love your historical homeland, to be willing to make all your contribution to its development with all the fibers, and to live in a foreign land and sell fruits are vegetables to these Russians.
      1. OTAKE
        OTAKE 7 May 2013 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: antidialer
        I can understand hermes, hetai9977. They at least sit in Azerbaijan and from there spoil Russia. But you, otake2, are probably tormented every day in Russia. This is what kind of patience you need to have - to love your historical homeland, to be willing to make all your contribution to its development with all the fibers, and to live in a foreign land and sell fruits are vegetables to these Russians.

        I live in an ethnic republic that is part of the Russian Federation, the nation is not Azerbaijani, I do not sell fruit and vegetables. PROBLEM? :)
        1. antidialer
          antidialer 8 May 2013 09: 04
          +1
          You have a problemm. To hate the country in which he was born and grew up is pathology ...
          1. OTAKE
            OTAKE 9 May 2013 06: 59
            0
            Quote: antidialer
            You have a problemm. To hate the country in which he was born and grew up is pathology ...

            What place will I hate to show?) State, maybe.)
  • UFO
    UFO 6 May 2013 13: 59
    +3
    Sound like a lamprey, I guess? request
  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 6 May 2013 15: 18
    -1
    and what about a Turk or just a passerby.
  • revnagan
    revnagan 6 May 2013 15: 57
    +1
    Quote: hermes
    And how many people were killed during the Soviet Union represiah ?????

    What kind of people? Syrian? Turkish? Well, what can you say ... Turk, Turk?
  • hermes
    hermes 6 May 2013 13: 18
    48 th
    If the oil price drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall), and then you will hit anyone on the economy ??
    1. Rider
      Rider 6 May 2013 13: 29
      29
      Quote: hermes
      IF THE OIL PRICE drops to 60 bucks then Russia will fall)


      and it says the representative of the country, which itself sits on the oil needle!?

      if the price falls, then we will fall together.

      and by the way. does Azerbaijan have a gold and foreign exchange airbag?

      laughing
      1. hermes
        hermes 6 May 2013 13: 40
        30 th
        )))) hhahaha damn dengy from oil to us to buy a lot of weapons
        1. Rider
          Rider 6 May 2013 13: 45
          15
          hermes


          the question was that both Russia and Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan are mainly commodity countries.
          so the reduction in oil prices is not particularly rejoicing.
          if the Russian economy sags, then you and I will end up in ... uh hole.

          and weapons you can spread on bread, it’s probably tastier like that.
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 04
            +5
            Quote: Rider
            hermes


            the question was that both Russia and Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan are mainly commodity countries.
            so the reduction in oil prices is not particularly rejoicing.
            if the Russian economy sags, then you and I will end up in ... uh hole.

            and weapons you can spread on bread, it’s probably tastier like that.

            Well, how can I say if prices fall, then the leaders of our countries will think that the economy can be raised in other ways and throw out an oil syringe.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 20
              +9
              Quote: Yeraz
              Well, how can I say if prices fall, then the leaders of our countries will think that the economy can be raised in other ways and throw out an oil syringe.

              In principle, it will be much easier for Azerbaijan to do this!
              And much is being done now!
              I am for my country and Russia to flourish !!
              I do not want ordinary people to live poorly!
              I have a claim to Russian foreign policy, but they don’t touch on this topic!
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 28
                0
                Quote: Yarbay
                Quote: Yeraz
                Well, how can I say if prices fall, then the leaders of our countries will think that the economy can be raised in other ways and throw out an oil syringe.

                In principle, it will be much easier for Azerbaijan to do this!
                And much is being done now!
                I am for my country and Russia to flourish !!
                I do not want ordinary people to live poorly!
                I have a claim to Russian foreign policy, but they don’t touch on this topic!

                You can easily get off this needle, but those in power do not want to.
                The window dressing is mainly done. In order to stir them up, you need a sharp drop in prices for a long time. The country is rich here, not only oil, huge potential, but because of oil everything is slowed down.
              2. antidialer
                antidialer 7 May 2013 12: 30
                -1
                Sorry, are you currently a citizen of which country?
          2. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 6 May 2013 16: 23
            0
            Quote: Rider
            the question was that both Russia and Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan are mainly commodity countries.
            so the reduction in oil prices is not particularly rejoicing.
            if the Russian economy sags, then you and I will end up in ... uh hole.

            and weapons you can spread on bread, it’s probably tastier like that.

            That is the fifth column which, even in case of rustling, will not live in Azerbaijan, will immediately try to sneak out over the hill, by hook or by crook.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 32
              +3
              Quote: Phantom Revolution
              Quote: Rider
              the question was that both Russia and Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan are mainly commodity countries.
              so the reduction in oil prices is not particularly rejoicing.
              if the Russian economy sags, then you and I will end up in ... uh hole.

              and weapons you can spread on bread, it’s probably tastier like that.

              That is the fifth column which, even in case of rustling, will not live in Azerbaijan, will immediately try to sneak out over the hill, by hook or by crook.

              There were such people at all times in any country, but not everyone is on the same level, there are people like me who will go to fight although I spent most of my life outside of Azerbaijan and I know a lot of such people there, only I'm a pragmatist who wants to take off during battle, I’ll shoot myself, such are more dangerous than the enemy.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 40
                +2
                Quote: Yeraz
                There were such people at all times in any country, but it’s not worth everyone to eat, they eat who go to fight, although they spent most of their life outside Azerbaijan and I know a lot of them there personally, only I’m a pragmatist who wants to take off during the fight, myself I’ll shoot, such are more dangerous than the enemy.

                my hand, too, will not flinch, but everything is according to the law))))
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 6 May 2013 17: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Quote: Yeraz
                  There were such people at all times in any country, but it’s not worth everyone to eat, they eat who go to fight, although they spent most of their life outside Azerbaijan and I know a lot of them there personally, only I’m a pragmatist who wants to take off during the fight, myself I’ll shoot, such are more dangerous than the enemy.

                  my hand, too, will not flinch, but everything is according to the law))))

                  Of course, everything is according to the law, died from an enemy bullet, well, or was blown up in an unnecessary place))))
                  Damn Alibek, how did you read my message, on a tablet, it eats up the floor or moves it the wrong way, I really write here through willpower, otherwise there is a great desire to smash it against the wall))))
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 6 May 2013 17: 21
                    +3
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    Damn Alibek, how did you read my message, on a tablet, it eats up the floor or moves it the wrong way, I really write here through willpower, otherwise there is a great desire to smash it against the wall))))

                    Easy to read)))
                    Here it is published normally, that is, without errors))
              2. xetai9977
                xetai9977 6 May 2013 17: 51
                +2
                I’m generally a veteran. And I know firsthand what war is, unlike the gorlopans, who, for lack of arguments, show their bad manners. Everyone can swear. A polemic, no
          3. Oleg Rosskiyy
            Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 21: 31
            +1
            And they will go to the amers with a nod, they will draw a loan to them.
        2. UFO
          UFO 6 May 2013 14: 01
          +8
          And shoot in the back! yes
        3. mayor46
          mayor46 6 May 2013 14: 11
          +6
          To shoot, a lot of weapons are not needed.
        4. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 14: 47
          16
          Quote: hermes
          hhahaha damn money from oil to us to buy a lot of weapons

          Already bought and figly useless? Saka also scored a lot, then gave half of Russia in the form of trophies laughing
          1. hayabusa777
            hayabusa777 7 May 2013 18: 10
            -1
            At that time, as I know, you had fatal damage - especially SHOULD CUT THE TU-22 AND MULTIPLE CUTTERS AND TURNS WRITTEN FROM ISRAELI ROCKET.
          2. hayabusa777
            hayabusa777 7 May 2013 18: 14
            0
            and IF THERE WILL BE WITH US AS WE ARE 3 BILLION MILITARY WILL BE AND 9+ MILLION POPULATION)) WE DO NOT FUCK YOU
          3. xetai9977
            xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 50
            +4
            and they said thanks to him?
        5. Tersky
          Tersky 6 May 2013 15: 24
          +9
          Quote: hermes
          money from oil to us to buy a lot of weapons

          We also need brains for him, weapons, but, alas, you can’t buy them for any money. And if oil prices fall, the Azerbaijani economy will collapse first ...
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 03
            +2
            only after you ... smart guys ...
        6. kush62
          kush62 6 May 2013 15: 30
          +8
          Weapons are also needed for weapons. Georgia has bought a lot, so what?
          1. edge
            edge 7 May 2013 07: 01
            +2
            Well, about the Georgian warriors, history knows a lot of examples ... they can also fool and run (far and fast)
            1. xetai9977
              xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 48
              +1
              you would be proud of the GREAT VICTORY over ANDORRA and San Marino, if you had the opportunity
              1. Rink
                Rink 7 May 2013 11: 21
                +2
                Quote: xetai9977
                you would be proud of the GREAT VICTORY over ANDORRA and San Marino, if you had the opportunity

                Andorra and San Marino are much smarter. Realizing their real place, they live quietly and do not quarrel with anyone. Therefore, it is safe.
                And if a bad little puppy Georgia, urged on by the amerikashaks "Bite, bite!", Decided to bite a big and adult bear, which has bigger teeth - then what did they expect in response? !!! hoping Uncle Sam would intercede? does he need it?

                And what now whine, complain, if their brains are gone?
                Those who do not quarrel with Russia have no reason to worry about security.
                Don’t bite - you won’t get it in the face. Simple logic.
                Maybe it will come someday?
              2. JIaIIoTb
                JIaIIoTb 7 May 2013 12: 35
                -1
                They do not crap us, unlike you. And to put a reptile in an adder is a noble cause. It is not a sin to be proud of him.
                1. xetai9977
                  xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 54
                  +3
                  express your opinion - do not "crap". but think what you want
        7. Mairos
          Mairos 6 May 2013 15: 56
          +9
          and what else can Azerbaijan do besides selling oil and emigrating to Russia to trade in the bazaars?
          1. xetai9977
            xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 05
            14 th
            Someone should trade, Provide provisions, so to speak. And get drunk to the point of insensibility and lay in stacks under the fences should be born in the appropriate latitudes
            1. Rider
              Rider 6 May 2013 19: 42
              0
              oh and don't say: taken http://www.russlav.ru/alkogolizm/degradaciya-lichnosti.html

              from a branch

              GreatRussia SU Today, 10: 19 ↑



              topic today: What will kill Western civilization
            2. ultra
              ultra 6 May 2013 19: 47
              +5
              Quote: xetai9977
              get drunk to insensibility and lay in stacks under the fences

              Do not wallow under fences - it is unhealthy! lol lol lol
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 05
                +2
                very harmful, affects the brain ..
            3. Ziksura
              Ziksura 6 May 2013 20: 35
              +8
              Quote: xetai9977
              Someone should trade, Provide provisions, so to speak.

              I hasten to disappoint you. You are not supplying us with food. Your fellow tribesmen are nothing more than second-hand dealers, and in a market economy, this "position" is instantly replaced by those who want more. And firstly, the majority of Russians buy food in stores, in all more or less large settlements, in the network. And in the markets, many try to ignore the merchants of your fellow tribesmen. The reason is distrust, and not all of them, but ....
              1. Apollo
                Apollo 6 May 2013 20: 51
                +3
                Quote: Ziksura
                I hasten to disappoint you. You do not supply us with food. Your fellow tribesmen are nothing more than resellers,


                Andrei, in all seriousness, you are smart, drive the resellers into the neck, I give you my blessing, the question is whether the police and the FMS will give their blessings ?!
            4. Oleg Rosskiyy
              Oleg Rosskiyy 6 May 2013 22: 41
              +3
              Yes, the finals were unlucky, it’s necessary to get so bad.
            5. AntonR7
              AntonR7 7 May 2013 08: 47
              +1
              This is you about yourself, as I understand it)))
            6. hayabusa777
              hayabusa777 7 May 2013 10: 27
              0
              you are right
            7. antidialer
              antidialer 7 May 2013 12: 41
              +1
              I do not argue. Azerbaijanis are able to harry. And not only food, but also drugs. The second place after the gypsies in the wholesale distribution of heroin in Russia is held by Azerbaijanis. But the fighters from Azerbaijanis are not very, not very. This is what I am - born in the appropriate latitudes and drunk like you can pile on warriors. And if you sober up, have time to pray to Allah.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 08
                +2
                Yes, it’s unlikely to sober up ....
          2. OTAKE
            OTAKE 7 May 2013 09: 06
            0
            Quote: Mairos
            and what else can Azerbaijan do besides selling oil and emigrating to Russia to trade in the bazaars?

            People like you are amazed, what planet did you come from? And what can the average Russian from a remote village know how to whip vodka? Or do they come to Russia straight from Baku and other large cities of Azerbaijan? Chat with Russian youth brought up in the spirit of unbridled fucking and consumption of "Yaga", be surprised.
            Laughing at the fact that the future doctor does not distinguish a kidney from a liver?
            Yes, he will treat you later. Then laugh while reading not a stranger
            diagnosis, a personal.
            Amusements - reassure a thread somewhere, put aside a bunch of more and enjoy
            that stinks. Or get drunk and then tell someone where and how to vomit.
            Or give in the face. Or somebody * a ruble. That's the whole circle
            interests of the young.
            Scientists - where? Lomonosov, Pirogov, Pavlov - it was long ago. Who is it now?
            Yes, no one. Because nafig nobody needs science in Russia. Because
            a rare intelligent person dumps from here like a plague. And you are talking about Azerbaijanis and about Turks.
            Production - where? Cars learned to do? Tractor? Computers?
            Tape recorders, TVs, mobiles? then there, everything is foreign. And the Azerbaijanis are to blame for this, or the Turks who, far away from the land, rolled a barrel at the "supposedly" allied for Russia Syria.

            But the Americans are stupid. Jews - appeased. Black-assed - have arrived.
            You see. The Chinese are narrow-eyed. About Africa is better not to remember.
            To the patience of the Jews, especially those living in Russia, one can see.
            Azerbaijanis are trading. They come to you home without registration, without housing, ignorant of the language, come and raise that money,
            which a Russian from a village is not capable of picking up, not because the Azerbaijanis came in large numbers, but because it’s easier to screw up the hooks and watch on the first channel how Puten wets everyone in the toilet, if everything is so good, then why strain and really?
            1. Rider
              Rider 7 May 2013 10: 06
              -6
              poor thing
              how unlucky you are with the country.
              1. OTAKE
                OTAKE 7 May 2013 10: 22
                +4
                Quote: Rider
                poor thing
                how unlucky you are with the country.

                It’s not the country that builds people, but the people of the country. So that
                1. Rider
                  Rider 7 May 2013 11: 22
                  -1
                  it's stacked how do you build a country?

                  poor country.
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                  2. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 12: 27
                    -1
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    Well, of course, he’s a scoop in Africa and a scoop :)



                    how cool you said about your parents.
                    they are probably proud of such a "progressive-minded" offspring.

                    and yes, the very one whose flag you now attached to your avatar. :)


                    you look at your avu, a miracle!
                    you probably pick out thoughts from the nose.
                  3. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 12: 35
                    +2
                    Quote: Rider
                    how cool you said about your parents.
                    they are probably proud of such a "progressive-minded" offspring.

                    my parents do not masturbate to the former, state education called the USSR. And they don’t roll the cucumber and putt into the health of the Tsar / Secretary of the Central Committee / President during the holidays, so sorry friend, you were mistaken, it’s specifically about you :)

                    you look at your avu, a miracle!
                    you probably pick out thoughts from the nose.

                    By the way, Petrosyan is an Armenian, I just pay the debt of respect to this people, Petrosyan, Martirosyan are just murderous guys, respect to them and respect.
                  4. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 14: 05
                    -2
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    my parents don’t masturbate


                    but you put them savory.
                    and what you masturbate with your whole family there is to you on BDSM sites, I'm not interested.

                    By the way, Petrosyan is an Armenian, I just pay the debt of respect to this people,


                    put a photo of the artist picking his nose with bulging eyes, and call it respect ...
                    if this is called respect, then what is an insult?

                    What are you trying to show with the photos?

                    that is, if I put you in the kind of DUST, will it be more convincing?

                    You have successfully chosen Avu, just in topic
                    hatched eyes poking around in the nose trying to pull intelligence out of there.
                  5. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 17: 20
                    +1
                    but you put them savory.
                    and what you masturbate with your whole family there is to you on BDSM sites, I'm not interested.

                    Maybe in your, virtual, small little world, someone put someone where and where, but I didn’t touch my parents, you switched to family ties, it’s not clear why.
                    Sorry, sorry, Mr. Ananist at the XXVIII Congress of the CPSU, we are not fond of such things, I’m doing pretty well with the ladies, I still haven’t reached the Soviet paraphernalia, and do you often get strafed on porn sites? What are your strange preferences, BDSM .. however, be fooled)

                    put a photo of the artist picking his nose with bulging eyes, and call it respect ...
                    if this is called respect, then what is an insult?

                    look at a couple of issues of a crooked mirror) Evgeny Vaganych, does not poke his nose at all) he is surprised, surprised by your naivety and lack of a sense of irony)

                    that is, if I put you in the kind of DUST, will it be more convincing?

                    You can expose yourself at least in a feminine gender, you can at least give Susannah a call, but you can not convince me of such kind of statements in anything.

                    You have successfully chosen Avu, just in topic
                    hatched eyes poking around in the nose trying to pull intelligence out of there.

                    Poor Petrosyan didn’t even know that he was picking his nose lol
                  6. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 17: 40
                    0
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    Maybe someone put where and where, but I didn’t touch my parents


                    anyone who uses words like "scoop" forgets that his parents lived with this very scoop. and he was conceived with him.
                    it turns out that both them and yourself, you yourself called the scoop.

                    with which I congratulate you.

                    Sorry, sorry, Mr. Ananist at the XXVIII Congress of the CPSU, we are not fond of such things, I’m doing pretty well with the ladies, I still haven’t reached the Soviet paraphernalia, and do you often get strafed on porn sites? What are your strange preferences, BDSM .. however, be fooled)


                    I have cited the entire paragraph with a specialist, so that you know who was the first to use the word "masturbation"
                    so all your assurances about the girls are complete profanity.
                    campaign you still use not only this term.

                    Evgeny Vaganych, does not poke his nose at all) he is surprised, surprised

                    I, too, would be surprised if someone brought such a photo as a "tribute" to see a normal one to pick up your conceit.
                    but these are your problems (old Freud, they would have fun)

                    Poor Petrosyan didn’t even know that he was picking his nose


                    indeed, EB could not even think that certain types (calling their ancestors - scoops)
                    they add as an ava this (not the best) photo of the artist

                    do not disappear, I am so amused by your "comments"
                  7. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 17: 54
                    +1
                    anyone who uses words like "scoop" forgets that his parents lived with this very scoop. and he was conceived with him.
                    it turns out that both them and yourself, you yourself called the scoop.
                    with which I congratulate you.

                    By no means, dear, I have not forgotten where my parents were born, the term "Scoop" (people) has a clearly defined specification, and its own definition, Now, in the XXI century, the scoop (system) is dead along with the USSR, but the scoop (people) remained, do you understand? My parents don’t put the USSR flag in the car, they don’t pin a badge with a red star on their jacket, they don’t drink vodka on May 1 or 9, tying a St. George's ribbon to the neck of the bottle. Stalin, they do not hope, Gorbachev is not stigmatized, and so on and so on, whatever happened, you can pull a person out of the scoop, but the scoop from a person cannot be pulled out in any way, therefore the scoop, at the extreme stages of SHM, cannot be cured.

                    I have cited the entire paragraph with a specialist, so that you know who was the first to use the word "masturbation"
                    so all your assurances about the girls are complete profanity.
                    campaign you still use not only this term.

                    Yes, you can bring the paragraph at least 3 times, it won’t change the situation, I told you my impression of your antics, you are yours and everyone is happy, everything is wonderful, you’ll breed demagogy.)

                    I, too, would be surprised if someone brought such a photo as a "tribute" to see a normal one to pick up your conceit.
                    but these are your problems (old Freud, they would have fun)

                    Nothing, you do not understand anything in Irony, eh)
                  8. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 18: 10
                    0
                    My parents don’t put the USSR flag in the car, they don’t pin a badge with a red star on their jacket, they don’t drink vodka on May 1 or 9, tying a St. George's ribbon to the neck of the bottle. Stalin, they do not hope, Gorbachev is not stigmatized, and so on and so on, whatever happened, you can pull a person out of the scoop, but the scoop from a person cannot be pulled out in any way, therefore the scoop, at the extreme stages of SHM, cannot be cured.


                    how i like your pearls
                    and your awareness of who and how shows shovels.
                    immediately see the people in the subject.
                    But is labeling not one of its signs?
                    and after that you deny your shovels?

                    this will not change the situation, I told you my impression of your antics, you - your


                    poor thing, you are already confused in your words.
                    then he’ll call a scoop (and himself, too), then he will boast of masturbation.
                    and I'm still to blame for him.
                    you really figure out what you are everyone is happy, everything is great,

                    Nothing, you do not understand anything in Irony, eh)


                    in irony? IN IRON!?
                    you called a whole generation of people who lived and worked in the USSR - SCOOPS.
                    forgetting (not from a great mind) that he also insulted his parents.
                    YOU ASK FOR THEM, DO THEM THEY CONSIDER THEIR PEOPLE - SCOOPS
                    and something else babbling about irony?

                    I think that it is this ava that suits you the most
                    anything worthy. you didn’t have enough mind.
                  9. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 18: 22
                    +2
                    But is labeling not one of its signs? and after that you deny your scoop?

                    Deny it. :) You didn’t hang any labels) you hung it yourself)

                    poor thing, you are already confused in your words.
                    then he’ll call a scoop (and himself, too), then he will boast of masturbation.
                    and I'm still to blame for him.
                    you really figure out what you are all happy with, everything is wonderful,

                    You shouldn't feel sorry for me, merciful. :) I didn't get confused in words, I say it as it is, you just have a conceptual apparatus working in the opposite direction, what can you do) I am personally pleased that I was honored to talk with such a "personality" like you)

                    in irony? IN IRON!?
                    you called a whole generation of people who lived and worked in the USSR - SCOOPS.
                    forgetting (not from a great mind) that he also insulted his parents.
                    YOU ASK FOR THEM, DO THEM THEY CONSIDER THEIR PEOPLE - SCOOPS
                    and something else babbling about irony?

                    Darling, but do not sing, I have already explained to you in general terms that the "scoop" addressed you personally, I have nothing against the people who lived under that system. And the irony is that you understood the words I said too literally, or just wanted to understand them that way. Let's leave it out of brackets.

                    I think that it is this ava that suits you the most
                    anything worthy. you didn’t have enough mind.

                    I understand you, my friend, I’ll only find a picture of the Hammer and Sickle, or the Red Star to reassure you, otherwise it’s me who really is, such an ungrateful one)
                  10. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 18: 43
                    -1
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    Deny it. :) I didn’t hang any labels)


                    how easy it is to soak you in yours ...
                    OTAKE Today, 11:26 ↑
                    Well, well, it’s clear, he’s a scoop in Africa too :)


                    however, if you meant yourself, then this is not a label, but self-flagellation.

                    I am personally pleased that I was honored to talk with this kind of "personality" like you)


                    yes, you can be proud, I don't often put my brains on "pro-salipolymers"
                    but you’re funny, and I don’t feel sorry for the time spent.

                    Darling, but do not sing, I have already explained to you in general terms that the "scoop" was addressed to you personally,

                    and I explained to you whom you actually called.
                    you can continue further, your ancestors will be incredibly grateful to you.
                    Let's leave it out of brackets.

                    leave it, you’re better.

                    I understand you, my friend, I’ll just find a picture of the Hammer and Sickle,


                    try to look more decent than this photo

                    and by the way, I'm not your friend at all.
                  11. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 18: 53
                    +2
                    Quote: Rider
                    however, if you meant yourself, then this is not a label, but self-flagellation.

                    I have Petrosyans on my avatar, and you have the Hammer and Sickle, I saw it and said that I was thinking about it, then think for yourself.

                    yes, you can be proud, I don't often put my brains on "pro-salipolymers"
                    but you’re funny, and I don’t feel sorry for the time spent.

                    belay right, verishmon verishvila)

                    and I explained to you whom you actually called.
                    you can continue further, your ancestors will be incredibly grateful to you.

                    And I myself didn’t even understand who was offended by something, you jerked the arrows famously, dear, it was only about you, I don’t understand what your ancestors are here. My ancestors do not suffer what you suffer, a scoop with phimosis of the brain.

                    and by the way, I'm not your friend at all.

                    man to man is a wolf, your right)
                  12. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 19: 05
                    -2
                    I have Petrosyans on my avatar, and you have the Hammer and Sickle, I saw and said what I think

                    but you think, it turns out, all sorts of nasty things.
                    Well, see such an education and upbringing.

                    right to yourself, verishmon verishvila

                    Did you say something in Japanese now?
                    start discussing linguistic issues?

                    do not suffer what you suffer, scoop with phimosis of the brain.

                    and again it's nice to dunk you in yours ...
                    Deny it. :) I didn’t hang any labels

                    then didn’t hang?
                    Oh well.
                    you screwed up "honey"

                    Well, let’s omit the quote about the wolf.
                    however, as far as I know, in the "scoop"
                    the motto was just different.
                    PERSON PERSON - FRIEND.
                    probably because of this you hate him.
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                  14. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 19: 47
                    -1
                    I think about what I see, if I see a Scoop, I say so - Scoop.


                    and I told you this refers to oh.
                    if you still don’t get it - your problems.

                    Georgian sweetheart, Georgian


                    seekers gamblers

                    So what ?
                    maybe we will communicate in Berber?

                    (by the way, do not rack your brains this is a very common Turkic curse, something like a Russian - damn it)

                    I absolutely do not like when

                    but I don’t like when they lie, and start to panic (consider everyone around you ... uh, slaves) and hang labels.
                    and then also deny it.

                    Wow, oh you, I now turn out to be a hellish hater of the Union of Soviet Republics

                    Well, actually it is, because you recited the motto HUMAN HUMAN - WOLF
                    and in the USSR just the opposite was propagated.
                  15. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 19: 56
                    +1
                    and I told you this refers to oh.

                    And I tell you the 7th time I say that this applies to you, and initially I addressed it personally to you and not to anyone else.

                    (by the way, do not puzzle)

                    I didn’t even think of breaking it)

                    but I don’t like when they lie, and start to panic (consider everyone around you ... uh, slaves) and hang labels.
                    and then also deny it.

                    priests, where are you drawn, you are apparently very vulnerable nature)

                    Well, actually it is, because you recited the motto HUMAN HUMAN - WOLF
                    and in the USSR just the opposite was propagated.

                    And in the USSR there was no sex, and? Why shouldn’t I blow women now? To pay tribute to the USSR? Times are changing, sweetheart.
                  16. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 20: 44
                    0
                    Quote: OTAKE

                    I originally addressed this to you personally and not to anyone else.



                    you don’t even understand who offended
                    so taught - I understand.
                    you are apparently very vulnerable nature)

                    and you probably love to lie
                    education is clear.
                    Times are changing, sweetheart.

                    and also in the USSR punished for theft and murder
                    it turns out your
                    an anachronism?
                    Well, definitely upbringing.

                    A convincing request to the moderators to skip this message, since it does not contain information that offends the interlocutor.
                  17. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 20: 52
                    0
                    you don’t even understand who offended
                    so taught - I understand.

                    and you probably love to lie
                    education is clear.

                    Behave like a woman by God, even though you argued what you say, otherwise it all comes down to some kind of "Spherical horse in a vacuum", a lot of farting into a puddle, but in fact - vyser.

                    and even in the USSR they punished for theft and murder in your opinion is this an anachronism?

                    Probably it will be a secret for you, but in America they are also punished, and in Europe, and in Turkey and in China, but where do you care about them .. The FSW is going wild, only in the USSR they learned to punish thieves and murderers, and also learned to punish whole nations, entire strata of society, and have also learned to punish dissent, and have also learned to blame in the lunatic. dispensaries of those who think differently than the regular Party Insane thinks.
                  18. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 21: 10
                    0
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    Behave as a woman, by golly, even arguing that you say


                    dearest is you me?
                    it’s you who are lying and confused in what you said and what you didn’t say.
                    adnaaco!
                    Well, about farting in a puddle, this applies to you.
                    who bleated about shoveling habits?

                    if you were poorly educated, these are your problems.

                    and they also learned to punish entire nations, entire strata of society, and they also learned to punish dissent,


                    are you now listing the "achievements" of the world community?
                    such as genocide, concentration camps,
                    witch hunts, prohibitions of objectionable political parties.

                    about psycho-dispensaries amused, and about senility too

                    but don’t you know that the MASMAKERS are THE MOST PLACE IN PSYCHDISPANISERS?

                    so it turns out if someone’s advice was hidden in a mental hospital. it’s arbitrariness and violence against the person.
                    but if they say things against people like you, "liberal-oriented"
                    then the opponent immediately MARASMATIC

                    so how is it so dear, do not you find that you are sinning with the same "illegal" views

                    and by the way, switching to insults as arguments is not a good thing.

                    but what can you do
                    so brought up
                    here it is a new time

                    I draw the attention of the moderators that I did not write anything that my opponent did not write.
                  19. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 21: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Rider
                    dearest is you me?
                    it’s you who are lying and confused in what you said and what you didn’t say.
                    adnaaco!
                    Well, about farting in a puddle, this applies to you.
                    who bleated about shoveling habits?

                    All that I said, you can read above, I don’t refuse a single word, and you slipped a bunch of what I didn’t say on you, and you try to pass it off, supposedly for my interpretation, I’m really saying, you’re like in your virtual world hanging out.)

                    are you now listing the "achievements" of the world community?
                    such as genocide, concentration camps,
                    witch hunts, prohibitions of objectionable political parties.

                    Well, about the concentration camps, and the prohibition of objectionable watered. parties certainly do not tell you)

                    about psycho-dispensaries amused, and about senility too, but don’t you know that the MASPERS are the MOST PLACES IN PSYCHDISPANERS?

                    As strange as it may sound, under the Soviet Union (especially in the post-Khrushchev times) the Central Committee began to take on the appearance of a psychiatric hospital. Under Andropov, dissenters were imprisoned in psychiatric hospitals with a diagnosis of "sluggish schizophrenia", funny right? Some Marazmats, they put other Schizophrenics in psychiatry, here's a scoop, in other words, a madhouse.
                  20. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 21: 28
                    0
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    All that I said, you can read above, I do not refuse a single word


                    it's nice that you confess to lying.

                    Well, about the concentration camps, and the prohibition of objectionable watered. parties certainly do not tell you)

                    just like you, your "free democratic" world
                    blood stained with no less, if not more, USSR.
                    By the way, take the topic of the article in which we "discuss" Erdogan accuses the assad of the murders, while he himself supports the thugs from the Syrian "apposition" and crushes the Kurds.
                    how is it democratically
                    Some Marasmatics put other Schizophrenics into the psychiatry, here you have a scoop, in other words, a madhouse.

                    insanity is to confuse Chechnya and the Czech Republic Australia and Austria
                    support some terrorists and kill others
                    as well as start a war on FALSE INDICATIONS FOR WEAPONS OF MASS DAMAGE.

                    however it’s so in your opinion
                    Now it’s clear what your patterns are.
                    distribution of labels and diagnoses to the left and to the right.
                    enrollment of dissidents in "scoops"
                    and about ChSV to speak.

                    here it is a new education.
                    say hello to parents
                  21. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 7 May 2013 21: 38
                    -1
                    Quote: Rider
                    just like you, your "free democratic" world
                    blood stained with no less, if not more, USSR.
                    By the way, take the topic of the article in which we "discuss" Erdogan accuses the assad of the murders, while he himself supports the thugs from the Syrian "apposition" and crushes the Kurds.
                    how is it democratically


                    Assad, this is Ramzanka Dyrov, Syrian bottling, arranging a feast during the plague, not the Jews will demolish, so the Turks, no matter how white and fluffy it is
                  22. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 21: 54
                    0
                    Quote: OTAKE
                    Assad, this is Ramzanka Holes,


                    that is, you don’t like that in Chechnya it’s more calm now?
                    Give you war.

                    Well, well, the war has just been reported to you: http: //warfiles.ru/show-30499-oon-opredelila-vid-gaza-kotoryy-primenila
                    -siriyskaya-oppoziciya.html

                    the use of chemical weapons by the militants is beyond doubt
                    But for these here Assad will be demolished by "bearers of democracies"?
                    I especially liked how Chechen spirits began to be called terrorists only after the Bostan marathon
                    Well, what about "objective information and freedom of speech"?
                    and by the way in Boston:http://oko-planet.su/first/183805-pr-terakt-made-in-boston.html blowing up your people (as in 9/11) is so democratic.
                    let's keep broadcasting about the "bloody scoop"

                    that means, according to MARASMATICIANS who believe that Afghanistan is a country in Africa, you have no objections, wonderful.
                  23. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 22: 00
                    0
                    you please do not leave the topic, if we continue tomorrow.

                    and then
                    it all comes down to some kind of "Spherical Horse in a Vacuum", farting into a puddle, but in fact - vyser.


                    I look forward to.
                  24. OTAKE
                    OTAKE 8 May 2013 05: 21
                    0
                    Quote: Rider
                    you please do not leave the topic, if we continue tomorrow.

                    and then
                    it all comes down to some kind of "Spherical Horse in a Vacuum", farting into a puddle, but in fact - vyser.


                    I look forward to.

                    I didn’t even try :)) The night was already, I want to sleep.) I’ll come, we will definitely continue.)
                2. OTAKE
                  OTAKE 9 May 2013 07: 04
                  +2
                  Quote: Rider
                  that is, you don’t like that in Chechnya it’s more calm now?
                  Give you war.

                  And give you another petty king? How many security officials died during Dyrov's rule? How much money is spent on it? Just do not talk about the Potemkin village "Grozny" about the rest of the bombed-out part of the republic, no one took particular care, but Ramzanka has a whole garage of exclusive cars, but calmly and there is no war

                  that means, according to MARASMATICIANS who believe that Afghanistan is a country in Africa, you have no objections, wonderful.

                  And those and those are not sugar, I do not deify anyone.)
  • antidialer
    antidialer 8 May 2013 09: 12
    0
    and don’t provide this translation from Georgian?
  • antidialer
    antidialer 7 May 2013 12: 53
    +1
    What have you done for Russia?
    1. OTAKE
      OTAKE 7 May 2013 13: 01
      -1
      Quote: antidialer
      What have you done for Russia?

      For Russia, nothing, not the scale for the republic in which he was born, did. I’m not bragging, I say as it is.
      1. antidialer
        antidialer 8 May 2013 09: 15
        0
        And for the republic (what, if not secret) what did they do?
  • hermes
    hermes 6 May 2013 13: 41
    36 th
    A lot of weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide, as they did in February 1992, 25
    1. Armata
      Armata 6 May 2013 13: 45
      21
      Quote: hermes
      19992 year 25 February
      Already in the future were far? laughing Your many many weapons of paranoia and some kind of kindergarten. If Russia had to crush Azerbaijan, they would have done it a long time ago and would not even have noticed who they drove through.
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 13
        +5
        Quote: Mechanic
        Quote: hermes
        19992 year 25 February
        Already in the future were far? laughing Your many many weapons of paranoia and some kind of kindergarten. If Russia had to crush Azerbaijan, they would have done it a long time ago and would not even have noticed who they drove through.

        Well, let's not be so categorical comrades, I think Russia noticed a war with a million-strong Chechnya, donations that pay also notice counter-terrorism operations and terrorist attacks too. And I think it will be noticeable for Russia to go through 9 million Azerbaijan, and if it is still included in the Russian Federation)) )))
        As for oil, it would be better if it fell, it still boils down a lot, but what officially, through budget programs, also boils down well, like in Russia, when the zenith stadium is already fabulous, Aurora is a billion under reconstruction.
        Let the oil fall, therefore the current power will follow it and then people may come who will diversify the economy not on paper, but in reality.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 17: 59
        0
        First clean your house, then we'll talk
      3. hayabusa777
        hayabusa777 7 May 2013 13: 35
        0
        EPT, Mother
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      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 10
        +5
        Quote: UFO
        Donkey stagger

        Very stupid
        1. UFO
          UFO 6 May 2013 20: 07
          0
          I agree. But how was that nonsense to be answered? request
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 14: 48
      13
      Quote: hermes
      Many weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide

      If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku laughing So the bow should be low from you and thanks 100 times laughing
      1. Gari
        Gari 6 May 2013 15: 26
        +9
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku, so there should be a low bow from you, and 100 thank you very much


        The truth is the truth, dear
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 20
          -4
          Quote: Gari
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku, so there should be a low bow from you, and 100 thank you very much


          The truth is the truth, dear

          Chezh then the borders of Armenia Russia protects you so steep)))
          1. Gari
            Gari 6 May 2013 16: 51
            +5
            Quote: Yeraz
            Chezh then the borders of Armenia Russia protects you so steep)))

            102 The Russian military base is located in Gyumri, it is on the border with Turkey and more than 140 km from Yerevan and much further from Karabakh, and apparently there are reasons, I think the Russian Political and Political Leadership does not forget about its interests, which coincide with those of the ally of Armenia and therefore the period of stay of the base is extended right up to 2044
            But you were taken out by the 4 Soviet Army already in 1992, and you got four motorized rifle divisions, three air defense brigades, a special-purpose brigade, four air force bases and part of the Caspian Sea Flotilla, all ammunition depots (strategic in Kilyazi, district in Agdam and Pump divisions in Gyuzdek, Ganja, Lenkoran, Nakhichevan). The total amount of ammunition in these depots is estimated at 11 wagons.
            And the last was a radar in Gabala
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 6 May 2013 17: 26
              0
              Quote: Gari
              Quote: Yeraz
              Chezh then the borders of Armenia Russia protects you so steep)))

              102 The Russian military base is located in Gyumri, it is on the border with Turkey and more than 140 km from Yerevan and much further from Karabakh, and apparently there are reasons, I think the Russian Political and Political Leadership does not forget about its interests, which coincide with those of the ally of Armenia and therefore the period of stay of the base is extended right up to 2044
              But you were taken out by the 4 Soviet Army already in 1992, and you got four motorized rifle divisions, three air defense brigades, a special-purpose brigade, four air force bases and part of the Caspian Sea Flotilla, all ammunition depots (strategic in Kilyazi, district in Agdam and Pump divisions in Gyuzdek, Ganja, Lenkoran, Nakhichevan). The total amount of ammunition in these depots is estimated at 11 wagons.
              And the last was a radar in Gabala

              Quote: Gari
              Quote: Yeraz
              Chezh then the borders of Armenia Russia protects you so steep)))

              102 The Russian military base is located in Gyumri, it is on the border with Turkey and more than 140 km from Yerevan and much further from Karabakh, and apparently there are reasons, I think the Russian Political and Political Leadership does not forget about its interests, which coincide with those of the ally of Armenia and therefore the period of stay of the base is extended right up to 2044
              But you were taken out by the 4 Soviet Army already in 1992, and you got four motorized rifle divisions, three air defense brigades, a special-purpose brigade, four air force bases and part of the Caspian Sea Flotilla, all ammunition depots (strategic in Kilyazi, district in Agdam and Pump divisions in Gyuzdek, Ganja, Lenkoran, Nakhichevan). The total amount of ammunition in these depots is estimated at 11 wagons.
              And the last was a radar in Gabala

              What significance does this base have at what distance? The fact is that even in 2 treaties Russia undertakes to defend Ar.And this does not interfere with expressions of the great Armenian army that will reach Baku.
              Yes, Russia has interests there in that the location of this base holds the message for you and us that we won’t let you come here. So, don’t blah blah about we’ll reach Baku and all that, There’s no support for Russia. just don’t compare yourself with Israel, which is strong in all aspects, America just complements it, and you just have the provinces of Russia, they’ll decide in the Kremlin, they’ll just sms off, begin to show us how much you can do without Russians.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 6 May 2013 17: 31
                +1
                Quote: Yeraz
                It's simple, do not compare yourself with Israel

                everyone wants to give birth to Israel and be like)))
                but everything is wrong and genocide is not genocide at all and the army is not IDF))))))))))
                but I want to))
              2. Gari
                Gari 6 May 2013 17: 47
                +6
                And in 94, too, helped the Russian army?

                Alexander Romanov Today, 14:48 ↑
                Quote: hermes
                Many weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide
                If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku, so there should be a low bow from you, and 100 thank you very much
              3. Apollo
                Apollo 6 May 2013 20: 13
                +1
                winked
                Quote: Gari
                If the Russian army did not intervene


                The Russian army belongs to RUSSIA and not Armenia. Enough to speculate with religion and do not abuse patience, friendliness and play on the feelings of the Russian People. Russia has enough of its own problems, do not drag this beautiful and kindly God blessed country into your adventures. Solve your problems yourself.

                PSWhen Azerbaijan joins the Collective Security Treaty Organization, and this will happen soon, you will have a check and a mat. Learn chess laughingI am here on the forum to promote the CSTO, in your state, are you against Gari ?! winked
              4. Gari
                Gari 6 May 2013 23: 58
                +1
                Quote: Apollon
                The Russian army belongs to RUSSIA and not Armenia. Enough to speculate with religion and do not abuse patience, friendliness and play on the feelings of the Russian People. Russia has enough of its own problems, do not drag this beautiful and kindly God blessed country into your adventures. Solve your problems yourself.
                And why are you so worried about the interests of Russia, the Great Russian himself knows with whom he will be friends and help, and with whom he is not, who is really close and friendly with him, and who is in words, but in fact, anyway, it’s clear who here so zealously defends the Turks
                PSWhen Azerbaijan joins the CSTO, and this will happen soon, you will have Shah and Mat. Learn chess. I am here on the forum to promote the CSTO, in your state, are you against Gari ?!

                join the CSTO, please, if you are let in by your new friends, and if you are an adequate person, unlike some of your fellow countrymen on this site, which I personally have no doubt know better
                and I play chess myself
          2. vitold777
            vitold777 12 May 2013 13: 12
            0
            If not for the United States, Israel would not have existed.
    4. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 31
      -4
      burning
      HAA, HOW EASY to portray a tough guy, hiding behind the Russians
      1. Armata
        Armata 6 May 2013 19: 22
        +4
        Quote: Gari
        If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku, so there should be a low bow from you, and 100 thank you very much

        Quote: xetai9977
        ari
        HAA, HOW EASY to portray a tough guy, hiding behind the Russians
        Yes, if the Russians were not there, you would have cut each other for a long time. And if we stood up for the Azerbaijanis, they would become enemies of the Armenians. I'm tired of explaining that there is a war of economic interests, not political ones. And it will not end (they could have made a borderless zone free of taxes for a long time there, living together there) But this will not allow anyone from your government.
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 50
          -5
          What prevented Russia from maintaining neutrality? Indeed, instead of directly supporting the aggressor, she could be in good relations with both sides. I do not think that Russia has benefited from this
          1. hayabusa777
            hayabusa777 7 May 2013 10: 30
            +1
            You are right. Russia is following the strategies of 1- Piotra.
      2. Gari
        Gari 6 May 2013 20: 25
        +3
        Repeat again
        Alexander Romanov Today, 14:48 ↑
        Quote: hermes
        Many weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide
        If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku. So the bow from you should be low and 100
        multiple thanks

        If you are a veteran, as you say, then it’s age and you know that the Armenian advanced units entered Ganja (Kirovabad) and only Yeltsin stopped
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 May 2013 20: 33
          0
          THIS IS A FAILURE FROM THE BEGINNING AND TO THE END OF THE WAR. IT BROKEN WHEN THOUSANDS OF YOURS DIED UNDER THE TERTER, SO AND WAS NOT ABLE TO TAKE IT, AND FINALLY EXHAUSTED. SO THIS YOU SHOULD BE Grateful.
      3. Gari
        Gari 6 May 2013 20: 27
        +4
        Quote: xetai9977
        HAA, HOW EASY to portray a tough guy, hiding behind the Russians

        And it’s better not with the Russians, but with the Russians our Allies and brothers in faith than to hide behind the Turks whom you are protecting here
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 May 2013 20: 37
          +1
          And you still have not answered why "brothers in faith" are blowing up the subway?
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 6 May 2013 21: 49
          -1
          Quote: Gari
          Quote: xetai9977
          HAA, HOW EASY to portray a tough guy, hiding behind the Russians

          And it’s better not with the Russians, but with the Russians our Allies and brothers in faith than to hide behind the Turks whom you are protecting here

          Hah to compare the help of the Russian Federation to you and the help of Turkey to us FUNNY !!!
          We don’t have a military base in Turkey. We don’t have huge amounts of weapons for free, the loans the Russian Federation also gives you, on the contrary, we sell them gas at a low price and invest in their economy, and we have achieved parity and advanced, everything is not bought up, how you have Russian companies, but on the contrary, we have acquired huge industrial facilities, hotels and everything else.
          Therefore, at least it is incorrect to compare.
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    6. xetai9977
      xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 20
      +3
      burning
      bullshit...
  • Yeraz
    Yeraz 6 May 2013 16: 17
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: hermes
    Many weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide

    If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku laughing So the bow should be low from you and thanks 100 times laughing

    Hmm, it turns out strange, Azerbaijan lost, but the Russian base is in Armenia, the borders of Armenia are protected by Russia, and even in two treaties under the Collective Security Treaty Organization and separately 2 third-party treaties, maybe this means that thanks to whom the armchies won and still exist us in the Caucasus))
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  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 16
    -2
    Oh really? where such confidence ? whose saboteurs were they who were caught in packs under bridges? thank you for that?
  • OTAKE
    OTAKE 7 May 2013 09: 15
    -2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: hermes
    Many weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide

    If the Russian army had not intervened, then the Armenians would have taken Baku laughing So the bow should be low from you and thanks 100 times laughing

    Oh well, okay, you don’t even have to fight with the Armenians, they themselves will demolish the tower with mock-ups of missiles that they can carry in their parades
  • hayabusa777
    hayabusa777 7 May 2013 10: 29
    0
    simple if this time there will be war then simple do not intervene and see what happens))))
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    1. Mairos
      Mairos 6 May 2013 16: 23
      +7
      Well, let's not slip into insults! Nobody just needs it!
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 45
      0
      AGAIN mutually ad infinitum
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  • dmitrich
    dmitrich 6 May 2013 15: 21
    +4
    Turks have always been schnicks, they only know how to fight with unarmed Armenians.
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 53
      -2
      dmitrich
      I have long suspected that the Russians have a short memory. Why, then, do not declare the Armenian zatikyan who blew up your metro a Hero of Russia?
      1. Gari
        Gari 6 May 2013 20: 28
        +1
        Quote: xetai9977
        dmitrich
        I have long suspected that the Russians have a short memory. Why, then, do not declare the Armenian zatikyan who blew up your metro a Hero of Russia?

        As always verbiage, an article about the Turks, reached zatikyan
        to repeat again that this was a provocation of the Soviet special services
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 May 2013 20: 45
          -2
          How is it? At the trial, Zatikyan boasted (this is shown in the documentary) "I did it in protest against the occupation of Armenia by the Russians." So you are doing glorious talk, trying to squeeze a tear from the Russian audience.
        2. ultra
          ultra 7 May 2013 00: 04
          +2
          Quote: Gari
          that it was a provocation of the Soviet special services

          BULLSHIT!!!! am
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 7 May 2013 00: 09
            +1
            Quote: ultra
            BULLSHIT!!!!

            That they love)))))))))


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      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 May 2013 06: 06
        +2
        Quote: xetai9977
        .Why the Armenian zatikyan who blew up your metro

        He did not blow up the subway - others did it to him unrelated. Every family has its black sheep
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 7 May 2013 10: 59
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          He did not blow up the subway

          And who blew up the Martian?
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 34
      +2
      Turks are wonderful warriors and you know that
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 14 May 2013 20: 27
        0
        Quote: xetai9977
        Turks are wonderful warriors and you know that

        Well, yes ... well, yes ... Probably because they are such wonderful warriors, the Turks from the 12 wars that have happened over the past 400 years with Russia can only add one to their assets, two can be defined by the term "combat draw", the rest are banal about ... this is the ... lost. smile
  • Natalia
    Natalia 6 May 2013 16: 32
    +5
    Quote: hermes
    A lot of weapons to prevent the Russian army from creating tragedy and genocide, as they did in February 1992, 25

    winked lol laughing .....I can not.... winked laughing laughing ... I would like to offend you, but I can’t, you're funny laughing laughing bully
    1. hayabusa777
      hayabusa777 7 May 2013 13: 40
      0
      laugh a lot can zdokhnish then laugh)))))
  • hermes
    hermes 6 May 2013 13: 46
    22 th
    And you did not think that there China is sitting on the gun))
    1. Armata
      Armata 6 May 2013 13: 49
      12
      Quote: hermes
      And you did not think that there China is sitting on the gun))
      Where there and on what sight? Azerbaijan to China as much as Washington to Karachik.
    2. UFO
      UFO 6 May 2013 14: 06
      +6
      China will put you on a different "target" if Russia is not around. laughing
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 01
        -4
        We do not fear China. They will go to the NORTH.
        1. UFO
          UFO 6 May 2013 19: 55
          0
          Read Nostradamus if you trust.
    3. Natalia
      Natalia 6 May 2013 16: 39
      +9
      Quote: hermes
      And you did not think that there China is sitting on the gun))

      China winked sits ? on sight? .... lol laughing )))))))) I can’t rzhu under the table
      It's good that not on the muzzle brake compensator laughing laughing laughing
  • INTER
    INTER 6 May 2013 14: 05
    22
    Quote: hermes
    If the oil price drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall), and then you will hit anyone on the economy ??
    We will hold on, don’t worry, thank the god of the fertile land, we have a lot, we will not die of hunger, we are used to past soldiers. Most resources, water, too. We will send guests home and work for people will probably not be visible. We will close the borders and support the domestic manufacturer, quickly adapt). stop eating rubber tomatoes. Let’s put the ruble into circulation, without any dollars, euros, manats. We nationalize the defense industry and raw materials, there are a lot of sensible people, everything that they don’t invent will turn out to be a tank. So it’s not for us to worry, but for you. wink hi
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 May 2013 18: 49
      -2
      inter
      God help
    2. hayabusa777
      hayabusa777 7 May 2013 13: 43
      0
      at that time you won’t have time to squeeze the potatoes)) - China needs a lot of land)
  • Yarbay
    Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 38
    +4
    Quote: Rider
    and by the way. does Azerbaijan have a gold and foreign exchange airbag?

    Of course there is a mattress))))))))))))
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 6 May 2013 13: 40
    15
    Quote: hermes
    If the oil price drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall), and then you will hit anyone on the economy ??

    If you are to expel your guest workers from Russia, then there will be nothing for you to troll on Russian sites.
  • smile
    smile 6 May 2013 14: 18
    +6
    hermes
    And if dinosaurs appear on Earth tomorrow, then the day after tomorrow they will eat everyone .... Herrr. Month, do not flatter yourself .. :)))))
  • smart ass
    smart ass 6 May 2013 14: 49
    +4
    Well, do not buy our oil, drift on the sheep))
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 42
      +2
      a good idea!!!! you have rich experience
  • mansur
    mansur 6 May 2013 15: 35
    +5
    Quote: hermes
    If the oil price drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall), and then you will hit anyone on the economy ??

    In addition to oil, Russia also has gas and the entire periodic table, occupies 1/6 of the land, 9 time zones, the military-industrial complex is restored again, and ordinary industry is fed, it feeds itself with bread and even exports, etc.
    1. hayabusa777
      hayabusa777 7 May 2013 13: 44
      0
      and the Chinese answer that way? )))
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 39
      +4
      but to a point .......
  • Natalia
    Natalia 6 May 2013 16: 26
    +3
    Quote: hermes
    If the oil price drops to 60 bucks, then Russia will fall), and then you will hit anyone on the economy ??

    Pasyyyyba! Paaasyyyba Uchitell!
    You are so cool twittering in Russian, well, just like URABEY!)))
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 34
      +3
      Quote: Natalia
      You are so cool twittering in Russian, well, just like URABEY!)))

      If you mean, dear, then I just write with errors (here and the keyboard)))), but I speak with a St. Petersburg accent and not only in Russian)))))))))))))
      1. Natalia
        Natalia 6 May 2013 16: 45
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay
        If you mean, dear, then I just write with errors (here and the keyboard)))), but I speak with a St. Petersburg accent and not only in Russian)))))))))))))

        lol ......... thank God not for you winked
        As you may have guessed, I am writing to one troll who deliberately annoys (and maybe amuses) a good half of visitors to this page.
        And his nickname, Hermes .... here.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 49
          +4
          Quote: Natalia
          ......... thank God not for you

          in anger you are no less beautiful than in a benevolent mood !!))
          Just UARABEY was like my nickname))) then I realized that probably a sparrow)))
          but a man with this nickname is also a friend of mine, though for a long time not appear))))
          1. Natalia
            Natalia 6 May 2013 17: 30
            +3
            Quote: Yarbay
            Just UARABEY was like my nickname)))

            Ahhh yeah really looks like your nickname lol )))
            smile .... but it’s true))))))
        2. rolik
          rolik 6 May 2013 18: 56
          +3
          Quote: Natalia
          Quote: Yarbay
          If you mean, dear, then I just write with errors (here and the keyboard)))), but I speak with a St. Petersburg accent and not only in Russian)))))))))))))

          lol ......... thank God not for you winked
          As you may have guessed, I am writing to one troll who deliberately annoys (and maybe amuses) a good half of visitors to this page.
          And his nickname, Hermes .... here.

          laughing It is simply unrealistic erotic when Natalia uttered the word - Herr :) Month. repeat
        3. xetai9977
          xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 48
          +3
          what is the lexicon, and .... what femininity .......
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  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 6 May 2013 13: 25
    15
    Erdogan called Assad a "butcher" and a "murderer" ..

    Who is he?

    Unusual lawsuit ended in Turkey. In the dock teacher of military school Oktay Ziafwho appeared in court for an unusual crime. He was responsible for the fact that during classes with students compared Turkish Prime Minister Regel Erdogan with Hitler.
    During the hearing, it was found that the teacher demonstrated to the cadets of the military school video recording of speeches by Hitler and Erdogan.



    Turkish MP compares Turkish Prime Minister R.T. Erdogan with Hitler.
    http://www.panorama.am/ru/region/2013/03/15/erdoghan-hitler/
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 14: 51
      +8
      Quote: GreatRussia
      He was responsible for comparing Turkish Prime Minister Regel Erdogan with Hitler during classes with students.

      There are smart people in Turkey, it is a pity that their minority.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 05
        0
        Alexander
        And in Russia even less.
  • revnagan
    revnagan 6 May 2013 15: 54
    +6
    Quote: Sirocco
    About Erdogan, I’ll say this, Whose cow would mumble, but be silent. How many thousands of Kurds with the filing of Erdogan were destroyed?

    It is true, but how many material assets were stolen from the Syrians by the Turks, and that the Chief Turk does not know anything about it. How much loot in Syria has already migrated to Turkey? But everyone knows who is loudest shouting "Stop the thief !!!"
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 6 May 2013 16: 25
    +5
    Quote: Sirocco
    About Erdogan, I’ll say this, Whose cow would mumble, but be silent. How many thousands of Kurds with the filing of Erdogan were destroyed?

    Yeah, and before that, the Armenians! Very reminiscent of the American solution to the Indian question. request
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 36
      +2
      Quote: GSH-18
      Yeah, and before that, the Armenians! Very reminiscent of the American solution to the Indian question

      and the Armenians are masochists ??)))))))))
      Everyone is torn to Turkey, hundreds of thousands of guest workers))))))))))
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 08
        +1
        yarbay
        Didn't you know?
  • vlad767
    vlad767 6 May 2013 17: 16
    +3
    The closed sky of Israel.
    Again some kind of provocation is being prepared ... No.
    Shooting in Cairo.
    I feel that peaceful life in Egypt will come oh soon. Thank us.
    Tens of tons of hashish in Spain.
    I guess from Afghanistan, right? what
    Erdogan spoke on behalf of the Turkish people.
    And what does he say on behalf of the people? I don’t think he will agree with him.

    The mountain forest fleet of Bolivia wants to go to sea.
    Insanity grows stronger ... fool
    To arms, brothers!
    And in America, the first bells have sounded for a long time, now the bell rings ... yes
    Film critics criticized the chemical series.
    Finally they thought that it was not Assad who used chemical weapons, but bandits.
    The first anniversary of the reign of Hollande. / France protests against the destructive policies of Hollande.
    Oh, play this pi ** p. Hang on a pillar will know. So contrary to the well-known saying pi ** ec, it sneaks up very noticeably. But the French, by the way, well done, after all, most of them are still normal people.
    In Britain, they decided to instill in children a love of pornography.
    And these went even further ... fool Poor kids... sad

    Canada does not want to supply weapons to the Syrian "rebels".
    And Canada, by the way, must be given its due: it hardly gets into other people's affairs. That's who the US and the EU should take an example from.
    Venezuelan Ministry of Internal Affairs will fight crime by army forces.
    And rightly so. This is the only way to deal with presumptuous killers.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 17: 32
      +3
      Quote: vlad767
      Again, some kind of provocation is being prepared.

      Fuck knows, Israeli planes just flew towards the Golan.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 18: 04
        +5
        They’re already bombing me, now I’m talking next to Syria on Skype with Israel. For about five minutes they bombed there, strong explosions are heard
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 6 May 2013 18: 07
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          They’re already bombing me, now I’m talking next to Syria on Skype with Israel

          Igor ????
        2. vadim5720572
          vadim5720572 6 May 2013 22: 36
          -4
          stop fantasizing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 7 May 2013 05: 50
            +1
            Quote: vadim5720572
            Igor ????

            Well, who else lives on the border there, he certainly sits in a helmet laughing
            Quote: vadim5720572
            stop fantasizing

            Israeli flag, where do we live? Do not measure others on your own, as you can hear and see through Skype, I wrote it. The rest is YOUR from the evil one hi
  • edge
    edge 7 May 2013 06: 57
    0
    there are no limits to eastern duplicity, they themselves provoked the massacre (financed, trained and sent forks) and now they croak ......
  • GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 6 May 2013 12: 50
    15
    Quote: Clever man
    I don’t know guys like you, but I will never go to Turkey to rest. And I urge everyone to this, let them eat their own tangerines

    And swipes their grievous slurp!
    Nehru do there!
    Our Krasnodar Territory is many times better!
    Some Pshad and Colonel waterfalls or Lotus Valley in Taman are worth it!
    And the places themselves are the most historical.
    And what a wine there! And the fruits! Mmm ...!
    Well, and the sea ... Yes, not one, but two as many to choose from!
    I can’t wait for a vacation!

    The US administration is silent.

    Decided to crank the sixes again?

    MEXICO CITY, May 4 - RIA News
    US President Barack Obama rejected on Friday the possibility that US ground forces would be deployed in Syria, according to Latin American media.

    "No scenario is envisaged that would require the entry of American troops into Syria," Obama said at a press conference in Costa Rica, where he is visiting.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/arab_riot/20130504/935767853.html#ixzz2SV6P0awO
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 6 May 2013 13: 02
      +5
      The US administration is silent.

      The administration of Russia too ...
      1. Kaa
        Kaa 6 May 2013 13: 18
        +7
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        The administration of Russia too ...
        ... but responded with the mouth of RT "The world media, citing anonymous but exclusively" high-ranking military sources "from the military-political entourage of President Bashar al-Assad, continue to publish details of the recent air attack against Syria
        Today, the Russian international television broadcasting service Russia Today, referring to one of these sources, informed viewers that the IDF used nuclear weapons with depleted uranium during attacks on Syrian military facilities.
        Only such weapons, according to the interlocutor of the Russian journalist, could lead to a four-point earthquake, as well as the appearance of a cloud "similar to a nuclear mushroom." Earlier (May 5), the Russian Today’s Arab news service reported the deaths of at least three hundred Syrian soldiers and officers as a result of the Israeli bombardment.http: //www.zman.com/news/2013/05/06/150501.html
        1. ultra
          ultra 6 May 2013 19: 56
          +1
          Quote: Kaa
          used depleted uranium nuclear weapons.

          request request request
        2. vitold777
          vitold777 12 May 2013 13: 22
          -1
          Nuclear weapons - with enriched uranium-235 (cannot be depleted by definition).
      2. Kaa
        Kaa 6 May 2013 18: 02
        +2
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        The US administration is silent.
        The administration of Russia too ...
        " Statement by Russian Foreign Ministry Spokesman A.K. Lukashevich in Connection with Developments in and around Syria 890-06-05-2013
        In recent days, the situation in Syria and around it has sharply worsened. In the materials of a number of Arab and other international media, especially many discussions appeared on the use of chemical weapons in opposing government forces and opposition fighters. Signs of the preparation of world public opinion for the possibility of forceful intervention in the protracted internal conflict in the UAR are of serious concern.
        Against this background, a statement by the member of the independent commission to investigate human rights violations in Syria, Carla del Ponte, which noted UN experts have evidence of the possible use of chemical weapons, in particular sarin gas, by opposition, and not government forces.
        For our part, we insistently call for an end to the politicization of this extremely serious issue and forcing an anti-Syrian atmosphere. We confirm the inadmissibility of dragging out, under far-fetched and dangerous pretexts, the reaction to the appeal of the SAR government to the UN in connection with the alleged case of the use of chemical weapons by the armed groups of the opposition in the n. Khan al-Asal March 19 this year
        We also clarify and analyze all circumstances surrounding Israel’s particularly worrying reports of Israel
        May 3 and 5 this year air strikes on targets in the suburbs of Damascus.
        Further escalation of the armed confrontation sharply increases the risks of creating hotbeds of tension, in addition to the ATS, also in Lebanon, as well as the destabilization of the still relatively calm situation in the Lebanese-Israeli border.

        We share our deep concern over the development of the situation expressed by UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon and his call to all parties to exercise maximum restraint and calm. It is necessary to act in accordance with the letter and spirit of the Geneva communiqué of June 30, 2012, UN Security Council resolutions 2042 and 2043, exclude outside interference, and respect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the ATS and all other states in the region. The internationalization of the extremely dangerous and destructive internal conflict in Syria cannot be allowed.
        In general, everything speaks of the need for decisive efforts to translate the course of events in Syria into a peaceful direction. Russia is doing everything in its power for this and is counting on a similar approach by all other states capable of influencing various Syrian parties.
        May 6, 2013 13.44 http://alumni.mgimo.ru/page/blog/user/view_post.seam?userId=28402&postId=500811
  • hermes
    hermes 6 May 2013 13: 16
    36 th
    qaca-qaca ostura bilirsen ???
    1. INTER
      INTER 6 May 2013 13: 52
      +5
      Well, yes, Karabakh is also the Russian genocide)))))) laughing
      Read the story!
      Quote: hermes
      qaca-qaca ostura bilirsen ???
  • vyatom
    vyatom 6 May 2013 13: 52
    19
    Turks where they climb, cockerels bullshit. Serve them with a towel over my arm. Although I, as a self-respecting person, do not go to this crap called Turkey. Backwards. And those who rest there and show off in my eyes immediately fall below the baseboard.
    1. ultra
      ultra 6 May 2013 14: 26
      +9
      Quote: vyatom
      Although I, as a self-respecting person, do not go to this crap called Turkey

      good good good Categorically no Turkey and Egypt!
      1. INC_1254
        INC_1254 6 May 2013 14: 41
        11
        Better on Lake Baikal)))))
        1. INC_1254
          INC_1254 6 May 2013 14: 48
          +5
          The dream is to visit Baikal and Kamchatka, and immediately after these places to Karelia. In the meantime, I try to visit the cultural and simply good places of my small homeland in the Urals)) There is nothing for me to do to a Russian person abroad when I don't know my homeland. We have a huge number of beautiful places that have found interesting in Egypt and Turkey?
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 6 May 2013 16: 50
          +4
          Quote: INC_1254
          Better on Lake Baikal)))))

          Why so much ?? belay There is always Lazarevskoye (Lazarevsky district of Sochi), Sochi (Central district), Adler (Adler district of Sochi) And besides the sea, there are mountain sights (which by the way are fucked up) Krasnaya Polyana (built up, and now it’s almost another city). The whole city of Sochi is 147 long! kilometers! Someone little ?? Just on TV, there is little adequate information, but on the Internet there is a lot of negativity and all sorts of foolishness. Unfortunately, we still do not know how to properly present our resorts ... (((
      2. Gari
        Gari 6 May 2013 15: 20
        10
        Quote: ultra
        Categorically no Turkey and Egypt!


        Meshchersky National Park is a national park located in the Klepikovsky and Ryazan regions of the Ryazan region.

        We were with friends kayaking down the wonderful river Pre, peat water straight from the river and drank, and alcohol was bred, remember then there was alcohol-Royal, at night in tents, an ear fire, and then a real Russian bath at the end, trust me and where I wasn’t, and I often go to the sea, and it’s good in our mountains, but I can’t forget it, 5 unforgettable days, I found a photo
      3. xetai9977
        xetai9977 10 May 2013 14: 52
        +4
        I guarantee that the majority will rest in Turkey
    2. Mairos
      Mairos 6 May 2013 16: 27
      +9
      Mmm ... Once upon a time the Turkish army under the Ottomans was very, very .. if not great! Hatred is unnecessary, it killed many.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 6 May 2013 17: 03
        +3
        Quote: Mairos
        Mmm ... Once upon a time the Turkish army under the Ottomans was very, very .. if not great! Hatred is unnecessary, it killed many.

        As a result, Admiral Ushakov put them all in cancer laughing despite the active support of the UK! lol
      2. ultra
        ultra 6 May 2013 20: 02
        +4
        Quote: Mairos
        Once the Turkish army under the Ottomans was very, very ..

        Read about the companies of 14-16 years in the Caucasus, the results for the Turks are deplorable, and if not for the October revolution, Turkey would not be in today's borders! hi
        1. Gari
          Gari 6 May 2013 20: 49
          +5
          Quote: ultra
          Read about the companies of 14-16 years in the Caucasus, the results for the Turks are deplorable, and if not for the October revolution, Turkey would not be in today's borders!


          On the Caucasian front, Russian troops achieved significant results. The most important settlements were occupied: Erzurum, Erzincan, the most important ports on the Black Sea: Rize, Trabzon. The Turkish troops did not fulfill the command tasks, the 3rd Army was actually twice defeated, the 2nd Army transferred from Gallipoli also suffered heavy losses. The Turkish command had to transfer up to 30% of all reserves to the Caucasus. The Turkish army was unable to penetrate into the territory of Russia, moreover, retreating deep into its territory.
          The results of the 1916 campaign on the Caucasus Front exceeded the expectations of the Russian command. Russian troops advanced deep into Turkey, capturing the most important and largest cities - Erzurum, Trebizond, Van, Erzincan and Bitlis. The Caucasian army fulfilled its main task - to protect the Caucasus from the invasion of the Turks on a huge front, the length of which by the end of 1916 exceeded 1000 miles.
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  • INTER
    INTER 6 May 2013 14: 00
    +5
    Turkey, the UAE are Muslim countries, but for some reason the bases of the West are mainly located there. Providing bases, they plunge Arab states into chaos and arrange the unthinkable (
    Quote: hermes
    And how many people were killed during the Soviet Union repression ?????
    ) genocide, not deciding who is being killed. In addition, who refuel them (drive oil)?
  • elmi
    elmi 6 May 2013 14: 49
    +7
    Quote: Clever man
    I don’t know guys like you, but I will never go to Turkey to rest. And I urge everyone to this, let them eat their own tangerines

    And a boycott of Turkish goods.
    Erdogan called Assad a "butcher" and a "killer"
    Erdogan clearly wants to recreate a new Ottoman empire, but he is clearly mistaken if he thinks that Israel will tolerate a powerful state near its borders. The practice of endless wars between Israel and its neighbors confirms the policy of weakening near the lying states
    1. rolik
      rolik 6 May 2013 15: 03
      0
      Quote: elmi
      Quote: Clever man
      I don’t know guys like you, but I will never go to Turkey to rest. And I urge everyone to this, let them eat their own tangerines

      And a boycott of Turkish goods.
      Erdogan called Assad a "butcher" and a "killer"
      Erdogan clearly wants to recreate a new Ottoman empire, but he is clearly mistaken if he thinks that Israel will tolerate a powerful state near its borders. The practice of endless wars between Israel and its neighbors confirms the policy of weakening near the lying states

      Quote: elmi
      Quote: Clever man
      I don’t know guys like you, but I will never go to Turkey to rest. And I urge everyone to this, let them eat their own tangerines

      And a boycott of Turkish goods.
      Erdogan called Assad a "butcher" and a "killer"
      Erdogan clearly wants to recreate a new Ottoman empire, but he is clearly mistaken if he thinks that Israel will tolerate a powerful state near its borders. The practice of endless wars between Israel and its neighbors confirms the policy of weakening near the lying states

      With Erdogan, along with his flock, the creator has not yet grown to create a new empire. In general, the Turks, these are born waiters and traders. Well, let them serve, and cowards sew.
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 15
        +1
        are engaged in socially useful work, do not hide behind other people's backs, heart-rendingly screaming "genocide"
        1. rolik
          rolik 7 May 2013 00: 47
          +1
          Quote: xetai9977
          are engaged in socially useful work, do not hide behind other people's backs, heart-rendingly screaming "genocide"

          So let them do social and useful work. And then the empire, empire, coward, sew nadot-coward. Everything will be more confusing.
  • cdrt
    cdrt 7 May 2013 11: 16
    0
    Erdogan's speech is, in my opinion, a vivid example of inadequacy wink

    Israelis bombed Syria. It would seem - what does Assad's bloodthirsty have to do with it?
    However, the butcher is not Netanyahu, but the victim - i.e. Assad.

    Chem weapons were again used by militants supported by Turkey, and Assad is again to blame wink

    If Israel or the United States hit Iran, the Assad leadership will probably be guilty again wink

    In my opinion, a vivid example of impudent absurd lies.
    Although ... among the Turks (yes, just among the southern and eastern people) the girl who they raped was always to blame for the rape herself - she provoked ...
  • Che
    Che 9 May 2013 13: 44
    0
    The butcher Erdogan must feel the anger of the people in his own skin while he manages to suppress the protests in his own country. Let him think about how not to stand trial in The Hague for his crimes.
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 10 May 2013 13: 13
    +4
    they can't stand it ...
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 6 May 2013 12: 36
    23
    Mr. Erdogan noted that the Turkish people are not inclined to hide their opinions for the sake of political correctness and always speak the truth.

    I was full of pride in the Turkish people. smile

    “Canada is one of the few Western countries that do not recognize the Syrian opposition. One of the reasons is that a significant number of radical extremists from around the world have joined the opposition forces. ”

    Does Canada have an independent policy? belay

    "Educational experts are inclined to think that pornography is not an absolute evil."

    And we think that only in our ministry of education incompetent enemy elements sit. request
    1. El13
      El13 6 May 2013 18: 20
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      pornography is not an absolute evil

      Well, if you compare with what is happening in Syria, then there is some truth in this phrase ...
  • Eugen
    Eugen 6 May 2013 12: 37
    23
    By a butcher and a murderer, he means a secular leader who is fighting the Islamists destroying his country, and calls terrorists freedom fighters. Hmm, the Turks were completely blown away, but they used to be a great power that kept half of Europe at bay.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 02
      +2
      Quote: Eugen
      By a butcher and a murderer, he means a secular leader fighting the Islamists destroying his country, and calls terrorists freedom fighters

      There is a photo where Mehti al Harati kisses his forehead !!
      1. El13
        El13 6 May 2013 18: 24
        +5
        Alibek, are you defending Erdogan? or support the allegations against Bashar al-Assad?
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 6 May 2013 18: 34
          +2
          Quote: El13
          Alibek, are you defending Erdogan? or support the allegations against Bashar al-Assad?

          Why on earth did you decide that ??
          Due to the fact that I wrote that the destroyed terrorist slobbed his forehead on Erdogan?

          I have repeatedly stated my position and it has nothing to do with what you thought!
          1. El13
            El13 6 May 2013 19: 57
            +4
            Sorry, Alibek, from your phrase I decided that the Libyan kisses Assad, because Eugen wrote his post about Bashar, but he only mentioned the Turks, and you wrote "him" ... Now I reread, but you can also see Erdogan in his post .. That's why I was surprised that I decided to ask.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 6 May 2013 23: 02
              +2
              Quote: El13
              Sorry, Alibek, from your phrase I decided that the Libyan kisses Assad, because Eugen wrote his post about Bashar, but he only mentioned the Turks, and you wrote "him" ... Now I reread, but you can also see Erdogan in his post .. That's why I was surprised that I decided to ask.
              All right dear!
              You are right that the first post was a bit ambiguous!
              I was also surprised that you knowing my position thought so!
              I respect and consider Assad as the legal representative of my people until they choose another!
              Another thing is that his father did a lot of dirty tricks and, in principle, he did Turkey, but this is not a reason for such lawlessness in relation to him!
        2. mansur
          mansur 6 May 2013 23: 15
          0
          Quote: El13
          Alibek, are you defending Erdogan? or support the allegations against Bashar al-Assad?

          All to the point
  • treskoed
    treskoed 6 May 2013 12: 41
    +5
    The Turkish Prime Minister called Bashar al-Assad “the butcher” and “killer”, and at the same time warned that he was waiting for the wrath of God, the channel “RT” reports.

    Mr. Erdogan’s aggressive statement came after the media reported on Israeli air strikes on the outskirts of Damascus.


    Not otherwise, MOSSAD instructed him !!!
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 May 2013 17: 19
      +3
      Quote: treskoed
      Che, Mossad instructed him !!!

      It’s just that all this harlot (Erdogan pawn, including) thought that everything would go smoothly and quickly in Syria. And now the nerves are fooling around lol Got yourself the worst enemy at your side at the direction of overseas democrat friends bully
  • Canep
    Canep 6 May 2013 12: 42
    23
    The Turkish Prime Minister called Bashar al-Assad “the butcher” and “killer”, and at the same time warned that he was waiting for the wrath of God, the channel “RT” reports.
    This is stated by the leader of the country, which 100 Armenians slaughtered 1000000 years ago, still has not recognized the fact of genocide.
    1. Akhtuba73
      Akhtuba73 6 May 2013 13: 02
      18
      Quote: Canep
      It says the leader of a country that 100 years ago

      This is said by the leader of the country, which NOW cherishes and cherishes, prepares and educates, feeds and treats ... but in fact it organizes the invasion of Islamic militants into the territory of a once friendly state, robs cities and enterprises, takes out historical values. Ugh, scoundrel! God forgive me ...
    2. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 17
      +1
      sapper
      and never admits, because it's not true
      1. ultra
        ultra 6 May 2013 20: 06
        +6
        Quote: xetai9977
        and never admits, because it's not true

        Well, yes! And it is also "not true" that Turkey sponsored (armed), treated militants in Chechnya! am
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 7 May 2013 11: 04
          +1
          Turks will say the same about you- regarding Kurds
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 12: 45
    21
    I think for Erdogan in heaven they are preparing the hottest frying pan. More and more convinced that he will lead Turkey to complete collapse.
    US Administration is silent winked Yes, I would be surprised if the United States condemned Israel.

    Oland, well, it's really a pretzel, the only thing he knows a lot about is in homosexuals. Otherwise, he is a complete ignoramus.

    England decided to take the palm of the world championship in pedophilia and now they will enlighten there, for a hundred seconds and since then 5 year old children. Just the other day infa slipped. 14-year-olds, in turn, cook for porfilm, young actors need England more than ever. In Western society, even a particle of reason is gone.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 6 May 2013 12: 53
      +6
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      In Western society, even a particle of reason is gone.

      In recent years, in the EU, a situation has developed which is bad for everyone, is good for the EU.
    2. Kaa
      Kaa 6 May 2013 12: 54
      +9
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I am increasingly convinced that he will lead Turkey to complete collapse. The US administration is silent
      And what else to tell them - everything has already been done- "Obama has reconciled two of his allies, Israel and Turkey. They have been at knives since 2009, when Israeli special forces shot at point-blank range nine unarmed Turkish volunteers on a peace mission off the coast of Gaza. Obama personally took on the role of a telephone operator and connected Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu with Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan - they kissed and reconciled. Israel apologized for the “unintentional” murder, promised to pay, the Turks withdrew the arrest warrants, the ambassadors will return to Tel Aviv and Ankara. For Russia, this is bad, since Turkey is returning to the US-Israeli orbit, completing its independent voyage. But even worse, this reconciliation directly threatens Syria, Russia's most important ally, and friendly Iran. Unfortunately, every reconciliation of Israel with one of its neighbors results in a new war. As soon as Israel made peace with Egypt, the next day the Zionists bombed Lebanon. So today - reconciliation with Turkey under the auspices of America may mean one of two things - preparation for an attack on Iran or the intensification of the campaign against Syria. For both directions, reconciliation between Israel and Turkey is necessary. Obama visited Jordan, a country hosting hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria, and tried to calm King Abdullah. Abdullah recently expressed concern that the influence of the most frostbitten Islamic militants is growing in Syria. “Jihad land may arise in Syria,” he said.
      Relations between Christians and other communities will be spoiled for hundreds of years, the king added.
      But Obama said that the fall of Bashar Assad is only a matter of time. Comforting the king, he said that radicals should come to power in Syria. And here the new friendship between Israel and Turkey may turn out to be an important factor - these two neighbors of Syria will be able to strengthen subversive activities in the unfortunate country.
      So far, the only defense of Syria against Libyan-style intervention is the Russian Navy, located in the Eastern Mediterranean. Only these powerful warships deter England and France from landing. But now, after the reconciliation of Turkey and Israel, they can be circumvented. These are the first results of the visit of the Nobel Peace Laureate to the region. - Israel Shamir http://www.kp.ru/daily/26050/2962819/
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 6 May 2013 13: 07
        +8
        Quote: Kaa
        Special Forces shot nine unarmed Turkish volunteers at point blank range

        Quote: Kaa
        Israel apologized for "unintentional" murder, promised to pay
        I wonder how much it costs to kill a Turkish volunteer winked ?
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 6 May 2013 13: 25
          +7
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          I wonder how much it costs to kill a Turkish volunteer

          It would be good to ask atalef, professor and others, this is their gesheft. But the fact of such an agreement even among sensible Israelis causes the following assessment: "The geopolitical interests of Israel and Turkey temporarily coincided at this historical period. Turkey and Israel have to agree on the settlement of the incident on the Mave Marmara ship - the murder by the State of Israel of 9 citizens of the USA and this ship in international waters, and then military cooperation between Israel and Turkey in an attack on Iran will become possible. ”Major Israeli diplomat Yosef Chikhanover, former director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, former Israeli representative in the international commission on the Mave Marmara case, is currently in Turkey and is negotiating ", personal spokesman Benjamin Netanyahu. The demands of the Turkish side are known - Israel should make an official apology for the raid on Mavi Marmara in May 2010, pay compensation to the victims and lift the blockade of Gaza. Turkish ruler food. For the mad purpose of attacking Iran, Israel still has to humiliate itself a little before Turkey, admit its responsibility for the attack in international waters on the Mave Marmara ship, pay compensation to the families of the victims and obtain air corridors for the attack on Iran. Azerbaijan, most likely, has already given some preliminary consent to its passive participation in this attack. Roughly speaking, the public conclusion of a certain agreement between Israel and Turkey may become a sign that everything is ready for Israel's attack on Iran, and it may take place literally the next day. .http: //left-israel.livejournal.com/489624.html
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 14: 56
          +8
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          I wonder how much it costs to kill a Turkish volunteer

          I don’t know for the volunteer, but I give Erdogan a set of summer tires (new) and a box of vodka to the person who turns it into a steak. I don’t offer money, I understand what kind of G ... it’s a shame to take
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 6 May 2013 22: 57
            +4
            Yes, Alexander. Erdogan. And he wants, apparently, to become an even bigger scum: Turkish soldiers have begun ten-day maneuvers in the area of ​​the Incirlik NATO air force base near the border with Syria. This was announced by the General Staff of the Turkish Army.
            During the exercises, the readiness of the Turkish troops for military operations and for coordination with ministries will be checked.
            "Joint actions of ministries, government agencies and the armed forces will be worked out in the event of mobilization and war," the statement says.
            US servicemen are also stationed at the Incirlik base. Representatives of the Turkish General Staff did not say whether they will participate in the maneuvers.
    3. TUMAN
      TUMAN 6 May 2013 13: 12
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      More and more convinced that he will lead Turkey to complete collapse.

      It looks like this is the beginning of the collapse of the entire Middle East. Interestingly, the Turks understand that they are dragging chestnuts from the fire to Israel? And that they are already in the queue for "crap democratization", because Israel will never put up with a strong neighbor, which Turkey sees itself, and therefore they are destined for the same fate as Libya, Syria, Iran, only a little bit later.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 14: 58
        +5
        Quote: TUMAN
        It seems this is the beginning of the collapse of the entire Middle East.

        And in the center of the Middle East is a small country called Israel laughing
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN 6 May 2013 15: 51
          +8
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And in the center of the Middle East is a small country called Israel

          This is for sure, it looks like preparations are underway for the next "lohocost". They poured half-breeds living in Israel, they were lured there for this. After all, the pure and powerful live in London, Switzerland and New York.
          It’s not for nothing that the pimp has wound up in Peter and amuses perverts there with its fairy tales. laughing
          Damn! Again he accidentally committed an act of "atisimitism"! lol
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 6 May 2013 20: 22
        -4
        Quote: TUMAN
        Israel will never reconcile with the strong neighbor with whom Turkey sees itself, and by this they will have the same fate as Libya, Syria, Iran, only a little later.

        oh-ho, well, Turkey is not Israel’s neighbor. Between us is Syria and Lebanon.
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN 6 May 2013 21: 44
          +5
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          oh-ho, well, Turkey is not Israel’s neighbor. Between us is Syria and Lebanon.

          Respected! I know the geography very well, I can give you a few lessons as well. Iran also does not border. But does that stop you ?!
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 6 May 2013 13: 30
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I think for Erdogan in heaven they are preparing the hottest frying pan.

      I wonder what will expect these?
      “It seems that the purpose of this publication is to destroy the faith of children and youth in absolute moral values ​​and give them the impression that in the field of sexual behavior there is no bad and good

      In fact, they are following in the footsteps of Sodom and Gomorrah.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 14: 59
        +4
        Quote: Scoun

        In fact, they are following in the footsteps of Sodom and Gomorrah.

        I think that there was also democracy in Sodom and Gomorrah, so the answer to your question is obvious hi
    5. Yarbay
      Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 27
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      I think for Erdogan in heaven they are preparing the hottest frying pan

      Believe me on earth they cook him no less hot)))))))))
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      More and more convinced that he will lead Turkey to complete collapse.

      it bothers me too!
  • Canep
    Canep 6 May 2013 12: 46
    +6
    In Britain, they decided to instill in children a love of pornography.
    And teachers will hire pedophiles, let them combine the so-called pleasant with the useful. DEVELOPMENT AT THE LEVEL OF STATE POLICY.
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT 6 May 2013 12: 49
    +8
    Israel struck, coordinating the attack with the militants, the rest began to raise a howl. On the face of a new round of attempts to destroy Syria! Endrogan is still "speaking on behalf of the Turkish people" sitting with the US Congress, having roots in Israel - the Turkish people are good in the opinion of Endrogan!

    Oh, what a pity, to all but shit-liberals FSUs to protest!))))) Ksati all sorts of bloggers and other pseudo fighters on the Internet a lot! And who you ask on the street do not care for everyone)) wassat
    Well, the proud American people can only wish good luck in the struggle for their rights and freedoms from Jewish, Nigerian and Latin occupation!
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 6 May 2013 13: 36
      +8
      Quote: JonnyT
      Well, the proud American people can only wish good luck in the struggle for their rights and freedoms from Jewish, Nigerian and Latin occupation!
      They will not give, they have already made: "US authorities bought 1,6 billion rounds
      26.03.2013/09/15 // 3:XNUMX • XNUMX Comments
      Text: Russia Today
      US government continues to buy weapons. This time excelled Department of Homeland Security. Explaining the need to train special agents, the department purchased an unprecedented amount of ammunition. For comparison, even in the midst of conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, the US military spent about 6 million rounds per month, Forbes reports. This means that the purchased US ammunition will last for more than 20 years of warfare. But where will this war be, if the cartridges are bought to ensure US internal security?American citizens are actively discussing this issue on the Internet. Bloggers of the country note that a significant part of the ammunition is ammunition for ultra-modern sniper rifles. Fierce critics of US President Barack Obama, who adhere to the “theory of government conspiracy,” have already stated that intelligence agencies are preparing for defense in the event of popular unrest, which could begin in the event of a new round of economic crisis. In addition, the Department of Homeland Security bought 2700 armored vehicles with an enhanced mine mine protection. Among other things, they are intended for patrolling residential areas and firing in urban areasThe extremely dubious purchase of DHS coincided with yet another anti-weapon statement by President Obama’s administration. Representatives of the Democratic Party promised to "set an example of restraint in armaments" and "reduce government spending on ammunition." http://telegrafist.org/2013/03/26/47654/
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 6 May 2013 14: 23
        +2
        Quote: Kaa
        They will not give it, they have already prepared: "The US authorities bought 1,6 billion cartridges

        The US Constitution establishes the right of citizens to possess firearms. A second constitutional amendment enshrines the right of every US citizen to own firearms for self-defense. Currently, up to 270 million units of firearms are concentrated in the hands of private individuals in the United States (as of the end of 2012). Thus, per capita in America, including infants, have a pistol or gun. Each year, up to 5 million units of firearms are sold in the United States, including pistols, carbines, and rifles.
        And this is not counting military equipment, which is also privately owned ...
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 15: 00
        +4
        Quote: Kaa
        US authorities bought 1,6 billion rounds

        And another billion for Kalashnikov assault rifles, there is a great demand for cartridges in US stores.
      3. Yarbay
        Yarbay 6 May 2013 15: 57
        +3
        Quote: Kaa
        Fierce critics of US President Barack Obama, who adhere to the “theory of government conspiracy,” have already stated that intelligence agencies are preparing for defense in the event of popular unrest, which could begin in the event of a new round of economic crisis. In addition, the Department of Homeland Security bought 2700 armored vehicles with an enhanced mine protection. Among other things, they are intended for patrolling residential areas and firing in urban conditions


        I think the question is different !!
        They are going to give MDIs from Afghanistan to other countries !!
        2700-go nuts!
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 6 May 2013 22: 17
          +3
          Quote: Yarbay
          They are going to give MDIs from Afghanistan to other countries !!

          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And another billion for Kalashnikov assault rifles
          Probably, PMCs are arming, maybe even against Syria. "Several American private companies, including Intrac Arms International LLC and Wolf Perfomance Ammunition, have signed contracts with Russian cartridge factories for the purchase of 900 million cartridges of various calibers from Russia. As Izvestia reported. a source in the military-industrial circles, procurement negotiations began in 2011 with the participation of Rosoboronexport, the contracts themselves were concluded during 2012, and deliveries of the first batches began at the beginning of this year.
          We are talking about five private companies, which, according to some reports, have concluded contracts with Russian plants with the permission of the Pentagon. Among them are Intrac Arms International LLC and Wolf Perfomance Ammunition. The subject of the contract are various modifications of cartridges of caliber 7,62 of the 1943 model with a lead bullet and caliber 9x19 parabellum. In the West, this is the most common cartridge. The editor of the world.guns.ru website Maxim Popenker told Izvestia that 7,62x39 caliber cartridges are very popular in the US market.
          - Now in the USA there is a great demand for ammunition. The government placed an order for several billion cartridges for the needs of the army of federal and local power structures and departments. Therefore, there is a shortage of cartridges that private seller companies compensate for through imports. Since America in the early 1990s, Soviet-Russian weapons and its various alterations have been very popular. Basically they take civilian alterations of Kalashnikovs, both Russian ("Vepr", "Saiga"), and Bulgarian, Romanian, etc., as well as willingly take SKS carbines. There are several million such trunks in the USA, ”Popenker explained.
          According to the chief editor of the industry magazine Arsenal of the Fatherland Viktor Murakhovsky, most of the cartridges ordered in Russia are needed for private gun owners in the United States, including the Soviet Kalashnikov AK-47s.The expert also did not rule out that a significant part of these cartridges would be at the disposal of private military companies operating in Iraq and Afghanistan, and local armed groups.
          - As practice shows, often through private intermediaries, ammunition falls into the hands of non-state, including anti-government, military forces. This has been noted in Yugoslavia, Lebanon, Libya, and now in Syria.
          - Murakhovsky explained. Denis Telmanov, izvestia.ru/news/549345 April 26, 2013
  • yacht
    yacht 6 May 2013 12: 56
    +3
    What’s interesting to me is Israel, for the second time, in recent times, with air strikes at targets in Syria, and without losses on its part. The question is, where were our vaunted latest air defense systems Buki and other shells? Syria has them, yes they are, and it turns out that they were simply powerless against Israeli aviation. It turns out our vaunted complexes are the most ordinary dummies in modern conditions of the air war.
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 6 May 2013 13: 10
      +1
      Quote: yacht
      Syria has them, and yes it does, and it turns out that they were simply powerless against Israeli aviation.

      Well there is what?
      What is the conclusion that they are powerless?
      Do you know how Syrian air defense is organized and is it organized at all?
      Are the complexes on combat dzhurstva or not?
      Do not conduct combat work?
      In fact, the bandits have no aviation, therefore, it makes no sense to keep the air defense group on the DB in constant readiness, and Israel attacked unexpectedly without declaring war.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 6 May 2013 15: 50
        +4
        Quote: antiaircrafter
        In fact, the bandits have no aviation, therefore, it makes no sense to keep the air defense group on the DB in constant readiness, and Israel attacked unexpectedly without declaring war

        this is funny))))
        Air defense forces must be on alert in such a situation!
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 6 May 2013 19: 31
          -1
          Quote: Yarbay
          Air defense forces must be on alert in such a situation!

          Yeah ... and in Chechnya it was necessary to keep the 300th group on the database?
          1. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 6 May 2013 19: 53
            +3
            Quote: antiaircrafter
            Quote: Yarbay
            Air defense forces must be on alert in such a situation!

            Yeah ... and in Chechnya it was necessary to keep the 300th group on the database?

            In Chechnya it was not necessary. But a country that expects a possible strike by the NATO Air Force must keep it. And then Syria’s air defense is probably at a level that’s just the electronic warfare of the Israeli Air Force is better.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 6 May 2013 21: 13
              0
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              In Chechnya it was not necessary. But a country that expects a possible strike by the NATO Air Force must keep it. And then Syria’s air defense is probably at a level that’s just the electronic warfare of the Israeli Air Force is better.

              Here in the military materials there was information that in 2008, large-scale Greco-Israeli military exercises were held in Cyprus, where about 100 Israeli aircraft participated!
              It is supposed that they rehearsed the S-300 breakthrough that Cyprus already had!
            2. antiaircrafter
              antiaircrafter 6 May 2013 21: 51
              -1
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              a country awaiting a possible NATO air strike should hold.

              When did Israel join NATO and why did it attack without declaring war and through the territory of a sovereign state?
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 6 May 2013 23: 08
                0
                Quote: antiaircrafter
                When did Israel join NATO and why did it attack without declaring war and through the territory of a sovereign state?
                )))))))))))))))))
                The first time I see such a brake))))))))))
                No to the third))
                1. antiaircrafter
                  antiaircrafter 7 May 2013 08: 47
                  0
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  The first time I see such a brake))))))))))

                  Did you look in the mirror recently?
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 6 May 2013 21: 10
            +1
            Quote: antiaircrafter
            Yeah ... and in Chechnya it was necessary to keep the 300th group on the database?

            You think your friend too narrowly and, apparently, you hardly served at all!
            What because of the war in Chechnya, Russian air defense systems ceased to guard the air borders ???
            Disabled air defense in Moscow ??
            Do not write nonsense, but rather keep silent !!
            1. antiaircrafter
              antiaircrafter 6 May 2013 21: 45
              0
              Quote: Yarbay
              Disabled air defense in Moscow ??

              They didn’t disconnect in Moscow, and in Grozny the three hundredths didn’t deploy, because there is no need.
              Or do you have all the air defense readiness on the border with Karabakh once?
              In the same way, you’ll probably draw all the polymers if the Armenians suddenly want to bomb.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 6 May 2013 23: 06
                +1
                Quote: antiaircrafter
                They didn’t disconnect in Moscow, and in Grozny the three hundredths didn’t deploy, because there is no need.

                Yes, and. Grozny and Damascus ??
                Do you even think ???
                Mui with a finger do not have to compare!
                This is the capital of a pancake country !!
                On h..n need general air defense if the planes of a potential enemy fly over the Presidential Palace !! ????
                1. antiaircrafter
                  antiaircrafter 7 May 2013 08: 45
                  -1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  On h..n need general air defense if the planes of a potential enemy fly over the Presidential Palace !! ????

                  Are you sure that it is there at all?
                  It is not easy to place air defense systems around the capital in conditions when the fighting does not stop there. Their bandits will be destroyed in a swoop.
                  Israel just took advantage of the situation.
                2. antiaircrafter
                  antiaircrafter 7 May 2013 08: 50
                  -1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Yes, and. Grozny and Damascus ??

                  Both there and there a counter-guerrilla war and the absence of aviation by the enemy.
  • domovoi
    domovoi 6 May 2013 12: 59
    +2
    I’ve been saying for a long time - the Syrians will be broken sooner or later only defending themselves. the best defense is attack. since for them it is a matter of life and death, one must act tough. for example, they would have arranged sabotage in the cities of Israel, Qatar and the United States. chemical, bacteriological weapons to help them. and they want to be angels of light in this world - well, then the fate of Gaddafi is waiting for them
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 6 May 2013 13: 02
      +3
      Quote: domovoi
      would arrange a diversion in the cities of Israel, Qatar and the United States. chemical, bacteriological weapons to help them.

      This is a direct way to stay alone at all.
      1. domovoi
        domovoi 6 May 2013 13: 09
        0
        and now who is with them? I say, the fall of Syria is a matter of time. as it becomes clear, Russia and China put on their pants and huddled in the corners in front of the Jews and Americans. so Syria was left alone.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 6 May 2013 13: 15
          +1
          Quote: domovoi
          and now who is with them? I say, the fall of Syria is a matter of time. as it becomes clear, Russia and China put on their pants and huddled in the corners in front of the Jews and Americans. so Syria was left alone.

          Terrorism is not encouraged by anyone, no matter how good it may be justified. And neither Russia, nor China, no one else will protect Syria in the international arena. Now a diplomatic war is being waged, but as soon as the Syrians blow something up somewhere, much less chemical or bacteriological, then there will be no more sympathizers for them. And what about imposed in the pants ... With your logic, it turns out that the states also imposed in the pants, because they do not invade Syria? wink
          1. domovoi
            domovoi 6 May 2013 13: 18
            +1
            but what is happening in Syria now is not terrorism? and look - nobody says anything, they even increase arms deliveries ... and the states have been bending their line for several decades in a row. and it turns out fine with them, unfortunately. so they don’t put on their pants ...
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 6 May 2013 13: 33
              +7
              Quote: domovoi
              but what is happening in Syria now is not terrorism? and look - nobody says anything, they even increase arms deliveries ... and the states have been bending their line for several decades in a row. and it turns out fine with them, unfortunately. so they don’t put on their pants ...

              Do not confuse horseradish with a goose neck. Do you think that if Assad detonated a chemical bomb tomorrow somewhere in Tel Aviv, Russia could have declared at the UN that he was doing great and was fighting for independence? belay
        2. domovoi
          domovoi 6 May 2013 13: 15
          10 th
          minus no arguments? students...
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay 6 May 2013 15: 48
      +3
      Quote: domovoi
      I’ve been saying for a long time - the Syrians will be broken sooner or later only defending themselves. the best defense is attack.

      I agree with that!
      In this situation it is necessary to act extraordinary and it is advisable to attack !!
      This is the guarantee of victory!
  • Kaa
    Kaa 6 May 2013 13: 03
    +7
    Twenty-three Russian politicians and large business leaders in the Russian Federation are included in the list of the most influential people in the world of 500 names,All this is interesting, but much more positive is the fact, which the media, apparently out of modesty, are silent about: "In 2003, the young and energetic President of Russia Vladimir Putin, addressing the Federal Assembly, by 2012 promised to double Russian GDP. In those years, according to the IMF, the economic power of our country at purchasing power parity was estimated at 1 trillion 404 billion US dollars. The plans then seemed ambitious and practically impossible. And Russia was lagging behind the schedule, not wanting to support the aspirations of the guarantor of the Constitution. And then there is the crisis of 2008-2009, which turned into a fall. That seemed to be all. It’s not our destiny to live in Portugal. At the end of 2011, the cash equivalent of goods and services issued by Russian enterprises was estimated at $ 2 trillion 373 billion instead of the promised 2 trillion 808 billion. From Bolotnaya Square there were screams of “shame” and “unfulfilled promises”. And then, like a bolt from the blue - statistics of the World Bank, which put the Russian economy higher than the German one! According to the ratings of international experts, Russia is now one of the five leading countries with indicators of 3 trillion 380 billion dollars, second only to the American colossus and three Asian tigers - Japan, India and China. In all its reports, this international organization gives optimistic forecasts about the attitude of Russia. What is even worth the last publication, in which the forecast for GDP growth for 2013 is 3.4%, while domestic experts and the figure of 2.5% are considered unreasonably overstated. 10:12, Saturday May 4, 2013 http://www.noteru.com/post/view/1105
    1. domovoi
      domovoi 6 May 2013 13: 13
      -1
      it is, of course, good. only the increase in the number of new phones and cars on already busy roads is not the most important thing. in terms of foreign policy - horror, aircraft manufacturing - are also not in the best condition. In general, there is something to work on. to have time ...
    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 6 May 2013 14: 37
      +2
      I would also like to add: in 2000, the GDP was 260 billion (at par)
      T. E is 8 times smaller than today!
      According to the World Bank, Russia's per capita GDP (PPP) in 2012 was $ 23600 ($ 3380 vlrd: 143,4 million people = $ 23600 per person
      Recall that in 2000 Russian per capita GDP (PPP) was $ 6660, or 3,57 times less than today.
      Not a single country in Europe has such a close !!!

  • Zeus
    Zeus 6 May 2013 13: 06
    +5
    Erdogan is sick, and seriously. Marasmic statements as a sign of senile dementia.
  • hermes
    hermes 6 May 2013 13: 17
    27 th
    Erdogan correctly said
    1. Rider
      Rider 6 May 2013 13: 40
      11
      This is not the first time that I have encountered the fact that Azerbaijanis support ALL Turkish actions.
      I don’t understand what, YOUR president?
      or is Turkey acting in the interests of Azerbaijan?

      I would like to receive a balanced answer.
      1. Rider
        Rider 6 May 2013 17: 00
        +3
        Quote: Rider
        I would like to receive a balanced answer.



        judging by the deleted comments, the answer was STRONGLY deployed.


        laughing
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 6 May 2013 17: 45
        +2
        Quote: Rider
        that Azerbaijanis support ALL Turkey’s actions


        Where??
        1. Rider
          Rider 6 May 2013 19: 01
          +3
          Quote: Yarbay
          Where??


          Well, where, where.

          here, comrade (whose comments are worn out), he agrees with Erdogan in everything.
          then you harness for the Turks.
          straight WELL EVERYTHING that Turkey does for Azerbaijan is good.

          so I wonder.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 6 May 2013 21: 15
            +1
            Quote: Rider
            here comrade (whose comments are rubbed) he

            So you met one, why write about everyone ??
            Each person may have their own opinion, what is wrong with you in Kazakhstan or in Russia ??
            1. Rider
              Rider 6 May 2013 21: 20
              +1
              why one?
              there are already two of you wink
              besides, there are not so many people from Azerbaijan hanging out here.
              so it turns out that whoever you take and Turkey is supported.

              here I am at a loss.
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 6 May 2013 21: 47
                +4
                Quote: Rider
                there are already two of you

                Is it possible in more detail that there are already two with me ????
                You wrote about ALL !!
                I love Turkey as well as my Motherland and the Turks, my blood brothers and I am proud that I am also a Turk!
                What surprises you in this?
                Someone can and supports Erdogan, but I do not!
                And if my help is needed, any brothers in Turkey will be happy to help!
                1. Rider
                  Rider 6 May 2013 22: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  Is it possible in more detail that there are already two with me?


                  Well, I came across your statements about the brotherhood of Turkey and Azerbaijan.
                  and they say the policy of Turkey is in the interests of your homeland.
                  hence my verdict (about you)
                  You wrote about ALL !!

                  read carefully
                  I said that ALL ACTIONS, not ALL AZERBAIJANI.

                  and last
                  Someone can and supports Erdogan, but I do not!
                  And if my help is needed, any brothers in Turkey will be happy to help!

                  in my opinion difficult to read conditions.

                  however, it is your right.
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay 6 May 2013 22: 53
                    +2
                    Quote: Rider
                    I said that ALL ACTIONS, not ALL AZERBAIJANI.

                    You wrote that Azerbaijanis (meaning everyone) support ALL ACTIONS !!
                    I ask WHERE ???
                    WHERE ALL ACTIONS AND ALL AZERBAIJans !?
                    Quote: Rider
                    and they say the policy of Turkey is in the interests of your homeland.

                    These are your speculations and lies! There are not a few mistakes in the politics of modern Turkey and there have been attempts to carry out actions that do not meet the interests of my Motherland!

                    Quote: Rider
                    in my opinion difficult to read conditions.
                    Because you know little about it!
                    1. Rider
                      Rider 6 May 2013 23: 57
                      +2
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      You wrote that Azerbaijanis (meaning everyone) support ALL ACTIONS !!


                      but I didn’t mean ALL, but only those who hang out on the site.
                      including you and the banned.
                      here the banned is agreed with what Erdogan says and Turkey does.
                      you (right now) deny that Turkey’s actions are not in your interest, but you agree to help them if necessary.
                      (well, altruism, I understand)
                      These are your speculations and lies!

                      and who a couple of months ago claimed that the Turks are your brothers and agree with Turkey’s position on the Kurds, and also consider Turkey an ally of Azerbaijan on the Karabakh issue?
                      so which of us is lying?
                      Once again, I advise you to restrain your temperament.
                      and do not slide into insults.

                      Quote: Rider
                      in my opinion difficult to read conditions.

                      Yarbay
                      Because you know little about it!


                      What should I know?

                      I ASK A CLEAR QUESTION

                      FOR FAMILIARIES, AZERBAIJAN CONSIDER TURKEY ALLIANCE TOTAL, AND FOR FAVORITES, THE FUNNY TYPE ACCEPTED BY ERDOGAN'S STATEMENT.

                      appan preferred to merge.
                      you took his place, but besides
                      questions AND WHO, WHERE, AND WHY.
                      I have not received any answers.
                      I'm not asking about Erdogan (after all, it was not you who supported his words about "bloody Assad")
                      But can you answer about Turkey?
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 7 May 2013 00: 13
                        +1
                        Quote: Rider
                        and who a couple of months ago claimed that the Turks are your brothers and agree with Turkey’s position on the Kurds, and also consider Turkey an ally of Azerbaijan on the Karabakh issue?

                        Turks as a nation are brothers to me, this does not mean that I support all the actions of Turkey !!
                        What besides the issue of Kurds and Karabakh there are no other actions in Turkish politics ???
                        In Karabakh, the current government also made mistakes !!
                        Quote: Rider
                        I ASK A CLEAR QUESTION
                        Again troll as a professor, as indeed the last time !!
                        And tame yourself!
                        First write crap, then you start like a snake in a pan to spin !!
                        How why do we think Turkey
                        union state?
                        If it weren’t for Turkey, we would just be cut out at the beginning of the last century !!
                        If it weren’t for Nuri Pasha, we would hardly have spoken to you now !!
                        When the armed Armenian gangs slaughtered unarmed people to the teeth, only a detachment of Dagestanis and the Nuri Pasha corps managed to!
                        Despite some mistakes, Turkey is always with us and we appreciate it!
                        Turkey is our strategic partner !!
                      2. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 7 May 2013 00: 30
                        +2
                        By the way, the fact that the current government is trying to make peace with Kurdish terrorists, I not only do not support, but against it !!!!
                      3. Thunderbolt
                        Thunderbolt 7 May 2013 00: 42
                        +1
                        After all, they have, as it were, a common enemy drawn in the person of Iran.
                      4. ayyildiz
                        ayyildiz 7 May 2013 00: 42
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        trying to make peace with Kurdish terrorists

                        The anti-terrorism war should have ended! BUT NOT IN ANY WAY
                      5. Yarbay
                        Yarbay 7 May 2013 00: 53
                        +2
                        Quote: ayyildiz
                        The anti-terrorism war should have ended! BUT NOT IN ANY WAY

                        I believe that if those who love their homeland cannot stop this agreement, then this will have a deplorable result!
                  2. Rider
                    Rider 7 May 2013 01: 52
                    0
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    Again troll as a professor, as indeed the last time !!


                    THROW THAN?
                    THOSE ASKED THE QUESTION?
                    and which one of us writes Crap if you just confirmed that you support Turkey?
                    you have a split personality 7
                    I remember here, I don’t remember here.
                    Turks brothers - yes
                    Karabakh Turks Allies - Yes
                    Kurds - Turks are right - yes

                    so why do you deny that you support the Turks?

                    First write crap, then you start like a snake in a pan to spin !!


                    but in my opinion, just you turn around.
                    instead of one distinct answer, they arranged a game of what where when.

                    till tomorrow.
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 7 May 2013 00: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Rider
                  But can you answer about Turkey?

                  There is a good proverb proven over the centuries
                  turkun turkden bashga dostu yok!
                  In addition to the Turks, the Turk has no friends !!
  • xetai9977
    xetai9977 6 May 2013 19: 41
    -1
    Reader finally met a person who doesn't swear and wants to sort it out properly. Understand, aggression has been committed against us, moreover, in a completely inhuman way, for destruction. The state of which you are a citizen is the sponsor and protector of the aggressor. And I assure you this is not a secret to anyone. And the Russian public just got used to seeing the Armenians as a "faithful ally", although this is far from a fact. Turkey is the only state (they are much closer to us than Russian in relation to Ukrainians) that helped us morally and financially.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 6 May 2013 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: xetai9977
      Reader finally met a person who doesn't swear and wants to sort it out properly. Understand, aggression has been committed against us, moreover, in a completely inhuman way, for destruction. The state of which you are a citizen is the sponsor and protector of the aggressor. And I assure you this is not a secret to anyone. And the Russian public just got used to seeing the Armenians as a "faithful ally", although this is far from a fact. Turkey is the only state (they are much closer to us than Russian in relation to Ukrainians) that helped us morally and financially.

      Brother, don’t forget about Pakistan, this is the only country in the world which, because of the Karabakh conflict, has still not recognized Armenia as a state, and it is the largest Islamic country with nuclear weapons, which has shown and shows its solidarity with Muslims and honors the memory of our Shahilov in fact, and not in words, like Iran, which for the sake of the Palestinian Sunnis is ready to wipe the face of the earth and tread in memory of the Shiite martyrs who laid their heads for Karabakh, with the help of Armenia, and then howl why we are friends with the Jews.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 6 May 2013 21: 17
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        Brother, do not forget about Pakistan. It is the only country in the world which, due to the Karabakh conflict, recognized Armenia as a state.

        I allow myself to correct your mistake-did not recognize Armenia as a state was the first to recognize Azerbaijan as an independent state !!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 6 May 2013 21: 26
          +1
          Quote: Yarbay

          I allow myself to correct your mistake, did not recognize Armenia as a state and the first to recognize Azerbaijan as an independent state !!

          By the way, many do not know among the townsfolk.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 7 May 2013 11: 13
        +1
        WE respect and love Pakistan very much, but here it was about Turkey
    2. Rider
      Rider 6 May 2013 21: 32
      +2
      Quote: xetai9977
      Understand that aggression is committed against us, moreover, in an absolutely inhuman way., To annihilation. That state, whose citizen you are, is the sponsor and defender of the aggressor


      Is Kazakhstan A SPONSOR AND DEPOSITOR OF ARMENIA?
      Well now I will know.

      Well, who attacked whom.

      I already said I’m yelling, listen to anyone in the Caucasus, they’re all the victims, but their neighbors ...
      1. xetai9977
        xetai9977 7 May 2013 11: 16
        +3
        I didn’t pay attention to the flag, but you know very well what kind of state it is
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  • Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 6 May 2013 14: 54
    0
    Of course it’s right, considering that this fits into the logic of the jackal’s behavior
  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 15: 04
    +6
    Quote: hermes
    Erdogan correctly said

    Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are. Who is Erdogan I wrote above wink
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 6 May 2013 20: 10
      +1
      TODAY WE HAVE EVERYTHING MUTUALLY !!! drinks
  • Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 6 May 2013 13: 21
    +7
    Regarding Erdogan's statements, I just want to say: "Whose cow would moan!" ... This is me about Turkey's policy towards the Kurds ...

    I'm not a prude, but the British, who are so concerned about the "sex education" of their children, the phrase of the unforgettable cat Matroskin is very suitable: "Sharik, you goof!" ... However, these are their children and let them do whatever they want with them. The main thing is to protect our children from this kind of innovation and other similar infection ...

    About an armed mutiny in the States ... Theoretically, it is not excluded. But this is practically unlikely. Rebellion requires some kind of weak and clumsy, but ideologists. And the Americans are fed. Moreover, they are ideologically fed. They will simply not be "high" to change the delights of home comfort for the hardships and deprivations of a rebellious lifestyle ... Individual enthusiasts will quickly be caught and soldered for life. Well, or a tower. On this pessimistic note, the American rebellion will end happily ...
    But the division along the "north-south" axis (like what happened in 1861) is more likely. But here the reasons will be more weighty, and more understandable to the average American brains - economic ... But even here the federal center is unlikely to sit idly by. It will end in the same way as in the first case - activists and ringleaders in jail. The only thing is that there can be much more of them. And the victims too ...
    In any case, do not underestimate the American state machine. She is strong enough, and most importantly, keeps her law enforcement system in constant tone, which, if necessary, can become punitive ...

    But India and China were pleasantly surprised. One point of tension has decreased. Well, at least for a while ... This is all the more pleasing considering that two nuclear powers were "butting" ...
    1. vyatom
      vyatom 6 May 2013 14: 05
      +1
      Quote: Chicot 1
      I'm not a prude, but the British, who are so concerned about the "sex education" of their children, the phrase of the unforgettable cat Matroskin is very suitable: "Sharik, you goof!" ... However, these are their children and let them do whatever they want with them. The main thing is to protect our children from this kind of innovation and other similar infection ...

      The British have same-sex love in their blood since childhood, when they give boys to special schools, where there are no girls. So they know each other, and women are no longer interested. Although in England there are such women, it’s clear why there men are climbing each other. And all sorts of institutional brotherhoods they hold on to one hollow love.
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay 6 May 2013 15: 45
        +3
        Quote: vyatom
        Although in England there are such women, it’s clear why there men are climbing each other

        it is a fact!!))
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 6 May 2013 16: 03
          +5
          Quote: Yarbay
          it is a fact!!))

          The biggest problem there is not to confuse a wife with a horse. wassat Hi Alibek hi
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 6 May 2013 16: 24
            +2
            Quote: Ruslan67
            The biggest problem there is not to confuse a wife with a horse.

            Hi Ruslan)))))))))
            they men should be given orders for this, when not confused)))
      2. Chicot 1
        Chicot 1 6 May 2013 18: 07
        +3
        Quote: vyatom
        Although in England there are such women, it’s clear why there men are climbing each other

        Quote: Yarbay
        it is a fact!!))

        So in vain you guys are so dismissive of the beautiful half of Misty Albion. For the sake of objectivity, other representatives of the United Kingdom are very, very pretty and attractive ... Well, for example ...

        ... actress Emilia Clarke. Best known to us for her performance as Princess Daenerys Targarian in the cult series "Game of Thrones"
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 6 May 2013 18: 16
          +2
          Quote: Chicot 1
          So in vain you guys are so dismissive of the beautiful half of Misty Albion

          it is almost unimaginable)))))
          she or not an Englishwoman or a rare exception)))
          Take my word for it))))
          1. Chicot 1
            Chicot 1 6 May 2013 19: 03
            +2
            Quote: Yarbay
            it is almost unimaginable)))))
            she or not english

            Yes, Alibek, she is an Englishwoman.
            Quote: Yarbay
            or a rare exception)))

            Not so rare. Sorry for the second example ...

            ... Katherine Zeta Jones
            1. Chicot 1
              Chicot 1 6 May 2013 19: 20
              +1
              To this list I can add Keira Knightley (I think there is no need to throw off the photo, she is already well known from the first three parts of "Pirates of the Caribbean") ... But these are all celebrities ...

              And here is a photo of a simple English girl-soldier. Of course, it is not as sophisticated as the movie divas listed above. But this is more likely due to the lack of professional stylists in the army ...
              1. Kars
                Kars 6 May 2013 19: 36
                +5
                Come on, ours is still better))) and what about temperament?
                Like an anegdot. England
                A lover comes down from the second floor, a husband sits in the lobby
                L. Ser today your wife was unusually cold with me.
                M. Ser, she was not very alive even during her lifetime.
              2. vitold777
                vitold777 12 May 2013 13: 40
                -1
                About Keira Knightley got excited (just imagine this chestless, but with an original face young lady in bed in the morning).
            2. Yarbay
              Yarbay 6 May 2013 21: 22
              +1
              [quote = Chicot 1] Yes, Alibek, she is exactly English.

              Dear Vasily, believe me as a person who has lived a lot in England, that the photographs you exhibited are very rare in England!)))
          2. ayyildiz
            ayyildiz 6 May 2013 19: 51
            +5
            Quote: Yarbay
            it is almost impossible
            1. lilit.193
              lilit.193 6 May 2013 20: 35
              +3
              As always! What would the men not talk about, but the conversation will still turn to women.
              Quote: Kars
              Come on, ours is still better)))

              repeat repeat repeat
        2. xetai9977
          xetai9977 6 May 2013 20: 22
          +4
          i would add kim wilde in youth
        3. Rink
          Rink 6 May 2013 23: 40
          +1
          Quote: Chicot 1
          ... Objectivity for the sake of other representatives of the United Kingdom is very, very pretty and attractive ... Well, for example ...
          ... actress Emilia Clark

          Do you dig her pedigree? It may well turn out that she is an emigrant in the second (many, third) generation and has her roots somewhere near Paris. Or maybe somewhere from near Kiev or Ivanovo ...

          I have come across many times: if a German or an Englishwoman is pretty, she is an emigrant.
  • Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 6 May 2013 13: 26
    +5
    "If God allows us, we will see how this butcher, this murderer will be condemned ... You will pay a high, very high price for courage, which you can show only in front of small children and no one else."


    Mr. Erdogan noted that the Turkish people are not inclined to hide their opinions for the sake of political correctness and always speak the truth.

    The Prime Minister condemned the international community for the fact that it is slow in making a decision, and the number of those killed in the civil war in Syria continues to grow.

    The stupid mustachioed Turk Erdogan is not a fig, the Turkish people, but in general such statements look more like the fascist hysteria of Hitler’s paranoid! Erdogan apparently in a paranoid delirium confused good with evil, of which he is a faithful servant. Erdogan - God is unlikely to help you, because at present he probably decides to send you to hell as quickly as possible.
    1. vitold777
      vitold777 12 May 2013 13: 44
      -1
      Correctly noticed - mustachioed. According to Freud, mustachioed (especially fluffy) - latent, i.e. hidden homosexuals (hidden even for themselves). How much in life I notice mustachioed - 90% are moral.
  • Naval
    Naval 6 May 2013 13: 36
    +5
    Mr. Erdogan noted that the Turkish people are not inclined to hide their opinions for the sake of political correctness and always speak the truth.
    Is it weak to recognize the Armenian genocide? Or is he still not always telling the truth?
  • skullcap
    skullcap 6 May 2013 13: 41
    +2
    "The US administration is silent."
    "Canada does not want to supply weapons to the Syrian" rebels. "
    Against this background, Erdogan almost jumps out of his pants, hanging on the legal ruler of Syria, bravely defending his people from international brigands and murderers, the dirtiest stigmas.
    The question involuntarily arises: why does he have such a nervous excitement?
    Is it not because of what is established, “that sarin was used by“ the opposition, the rebels, and not the government ”? And suddenly, if the investigation continues, will it not turn out that the pro-Turkish butchers used sarin from the arsenals of the Turkish army with the knowledge or even by direct order of this very Erdogan?
    Isn't there an explanation for the aggressive attacks of the ringleader of the current Turkish regime?
  • Black
    Black 6 May 2013 13: 45
    +2
    Quote: Chicot 1
    However, these are their children and let them do whatever they want with them. The main thing is to protect our children from such innovations and other similar infections ...

    I think it's time to "take care" of the mental health of their children - at all crossroads to beat drums and poke their noses like naughty cats.

    As for the Israeli bombing. The second blow to IMHO suggests that Syria is already considered "insolvent" and Russia and China are "incapable". Erdogan's statement is confirmation of this.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay 6 May 2013 15: 43
      +1
      Quote: Chen
      I think it's time to "take care" of the mental health of their children - at all crossroads to beat drums and poke their noses like naughty cats.

      I agree!
      And you need to do this at the highest level !!
  • pinecone
    pinecone 6 May 2013 13: 53
    +3
    [quote = Kaa] [quote = Alexander Romanov] This is bad for Russia, because it returns Turkey to the US-Israeli orbit, completing its independent voyage.]
    Turkey has never left the "American-Israeli orbit". The cries of the sultan Erdogan, who imagined himself to be Sultan, about Israel's "state terrorism" in early June 2010 (and not 2009) were just pre-election rhetoric, which was accepted with understanding both in the United States and in Israel itself.
    1. vyatom
      vyatom 6 May 2013 14: 09
      +2
      [quote = pinecone] [quote = Kaa] [quote = Alexander Romanov] This is bad for Russia, because it returns Turkey to the US-Israeli orbit, completing its independent voyage.]
      Turkey has never left the "American-Israeli orbit". The cries of the sultan Erdogan, who imagined himself to be Sultan, about Israel's "state terrorism" in early June 2010 (and not 2009) were just pre-election rhetoric, which was accepted with understanding both in the United States and in Israel itself. [/ Quote]
      Think again, is it worth going to Turkey on vacation?
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 May 2013 13: 54
    +4
    Somehow I don’t want to believe, but it seems that the denouement is approaching. Passions around the Israeli air strike have intensified too much, and these are Erdogar’s attacks.
  • vyatom
    vyatom 6 May 2013 13: 57
    +2
    Quote: Eugen
    Hmm, the Turks were completely blown away, but after all they used to be a great power that kept half of Europe at bay.

    Yes, they were never a great power. We broke them on the first number. There are no warriors from them.
    1. UFO
      UFO 6 May 2013 14: 19
      +3
      It was you who were in vain! But it was a long time ago, no one remembers. laughing
  • dc120mm
    dc120mm 6 May 2013 13: 58
    +8
    Erdogan is very friendly with "jihadists" or does it seem to me?
  • Simple
    Simple 6 May 2013 13: 58
    +3
    "Lebanese politicians, parties and organizations also expressed solidarity with the SAR. Lebanese President Michel Suleiman demanded from the world community, in particular from the UN Security Council, take strict measures in relation to the aggressor, in order to force him to stop similar steps violating the sovereignty of other countries, and to implement international decisions regarding the Arab-Israeli conflict.


  • maestro123
    maestro123 6 May 2013 14: 00
    +1
    In Britain, they decided to instill in children a love of pornography ...
    It’s disgusting for me to read, and it’s even more harmful for children!
  • armandos
    armandos 6 May 2013 14: 01
    10
    Erdogan ... hm! This two-faced father of the Turks, one of the most dangerous politicians in the region. Dangerous in the sense of a vile, bloodthirsty bastard. Russia and its allies need to be tough with this imitator of a bloody ataturk. They, besides force, do not understand a damn thing, remember the story how many times they betrayed and spoiled Russia from the underside. I am generally silent about the massacre of Armenians, Greeks and Jews. Brrrrr! And he still cares about the Syrian people. Remember the boys, we will still get a knife from the Turks in the back, but I hope the chain mail does not fail.
  • RUS
    RUS 6 May 2013 14: 09
    +4
    Erdogan is wrong, a politician of this level does not have any right to such insults, his sayings are not proven and very aggressive. Soon they write off Assad ...
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 May 2013 15: 05
      +4
      Quote: RUS
      Erdogan is wrong, a politician of this level does not have any right to such insults,

      This is not a politician, but the American Six !!!
  • Tektor
    Tektor 6 May 2013 14: 10
    +1
    What prevents to destroy all airfields in Israel?
    1. slaventi
      slaventi 6 May 2013 14: 35
      +4
      Behind Israel is America and the whole west, Also Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar are directly involved.
      Only Iran can really help Syria, possibly Russia with arms supplies and support in the Security Council. The forces are unequal.
  • Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich 6 May 2013 14: 13
    +4
    TURKEY AND ISRAEL ALLIES against Syria, who would have thought such a thing back 10 years ago. 9 slain Turks who brought food to the Palestinian ghetto in Gaza are forgotten; now 300 of the killed Syrians - the appetite of Israel, professing state terrorism, is growing !?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 6 May 2013 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: Semen Albertovich
      TURKEY AND ISRAEL ALLIES against Syria, who would have thought such a thing back 10 years ago. 9 slain Turks who brought food to the Palestinian ghetto in Gaza are forgotten; now 300 of the killed Syrians - the appetite of Israel, professing state terrorism, is growing !?

      The Turks were not carrying food. They were carrying bats and knives with which they met the landing of Israeli troops on the deck. This time. And secondly, if the state formation of Hamas located in Gaza has its own border with Egypt and controls it itself, then what kind of blockade can we talk about? This is roughly like the blockade of Estonia along the Russian-Estonian border and even by sea. The Latvian-Estonian border immediately deprives th