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Anatoly Serdyukov: and let our court wait ... New series of the ministerial "Santa Barbara"

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It seems that April 1 has already passed, and with political jokes it’s time to tie, but the feeling that April Fool's Day is stretching in time does not leave. And it concerns, first of all, what is happening around our old acquaintance - the ex-Minister of Defense Mr. Serdyukov and his ministerial activity in the main military department of the country. The reader will say: where is Anatoly Eduardovich and prolonged April first? It seems to be nothing more, but if we only pay attention to the recent press, a steady feeling arises that Anatoly Serdyukov of 2007-2012 type is not even an ordinary government official, but a kind of six-armed deity, who barely had time to pry the orders that lay on his desk, without understanding their meaning ...


We present to you some of the recent headlines from the Russian press, which prove that Anatoly Eduardovich cannot be an ordinary person with ordinary abilities, for an ordinary person for such feats and achievements, which turned out to be covered in the press, for such a short period of time simply is able to.

"Anatoly Serdyukov could become a defendant in two more criminal cases" ("My area")

Or it may not be ...

“Serdyukov will be interrogated as a witness about illegal torpedoes from Kazakhstan” (NTV television channel).
And I got to Kazakhstan ...

"Serdyukov built the road to the recreation center of his son-in-law with the help of soldiers."

And he said: yes, he built, but only the air defense fighters ...

“Serdyukov and his son-in-law rented almost 600 machines of the Ministry of Defense” (“KP”)

Well, here is exactly everything for the fighters ... For whom else? ..

"Serdyukov's favorite contained a servant for the money" Oboronservisa "(" KP ")

And her dad said that he was a millionaire and paid for everything from his own pocket (along with the purchase of diamonds and the apartment itself) ...

“The Ministry of Defense“ milks ”and“ spuds the family of the Minister ”(“ Interlocutor.ru ”)

And Alexander Bastrykin says that it is still necessary to prove, and for the whole year, he says, it’s not enough ...

"Serdyukov built a summer cottage on the site of the radar station" ("Izvestia")

And now they say that he did not build a dacha at all, but helped to restore children's sailing, improving children's and youth training bases ...

"Governor Zhilkin testified against Serdyukov" (Izvestia)

And Serdyukov, you see, will testify against Zhilkin - and whose will he take? ...

And so on, so on, so on ...

But Anatoly Eduardovich in the intervals between the construction of villas, the sale of "non-core" real estate, the gratification of the "favorites" and the "hilling" of the Ministry of Defense also participated in the military reform in the most direct way. No - well, exactly the six-handed deity, and nothing else ...

The road to the dacha, the dacha itself and its landscaping, letters to the Anapa mayor with personal signatures Serdyukov and the testimony of the governor, apparently, have no evidence from the opinion of the RF IC on the guilt of Anatoly Eduardovich under themselves ... And there is no base, then there is no fault either ... The investigators and the press have to switch to other information channels.

A new series of “Serdyukovskoy Santa Barbara” became the proceedings on how the General Staff cars were rented. Izvestia, for example, believes that the Russian Defense Ministry, on behalf of Anatoly Serdyukov, once concluded contracts for the maintenance of more than half a thousand cars. The fleet included not only military trucks, but also prestigious foreign cars.
Militiamen, perhaps, would not pay attention to these contracts if it had not turned out that servicing the car alone cost the main military department 6 million rubles a year! For such a sum, the cars of the General Staff could be turned into, if not, Formula 1 race cars, then they could serve, as they say, VIP-class. And also: instead of servicing with the same money, it would be possible to update the General Staff park literally every six months, if not more often ...

In addition to the astronomical contract amounts, his other details also became clear. It turned out that the contract was signed by the commander of the military unit, on the balance of which the staff fleet consists of. If the commander of the unit signed such a contract personally, then any other commander can only envy his authority ...

The executive officer of the order was the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Ministry of Defense of Russia” headed by Mr. Sedov. Before Sedov, the same company, but only under a slightly different name, was headed by Valery Puzikov. Somewhere we have already heard this name, is not it ...

It turns out that the Ministry of Defense ordered the maintenance of numerous cars of the General Staff (far from only military) from its own company, and for the work of this company (according to the documents) simply incredible amounts were paid. The generosity of the ministry in this case knew no bounds. But in terms of concluding contracts between the Ministry of Defense and manufacturing enterprises, representatives of these enterprises did not hear anything about Mr. Serdyukov’s generosity ... The conclusion of contracts, as we recall, was often postponed indefinitely due to the "high prices indicated by manufacturers." But then Tanks and nuclear submarines, or Porshe Cayenne SUVs and Mercedes executive cars that need continuous maintenance - half a million a month.

Now, the investigation again has questions to Mr. Serdyukov. Apparently, Anatoly Eduardovich will be asked: why, as soon as we are talking about the dubious development of budget funds, the name of citizen Puzikov again pops up, and why the maintenance of cars was carried out at the price of servicing the spacecraft.

The investigation has questions to the ex-minister and on the strange case of the illegal transfer of Kazakhstan-made weapons across the Russian border. In this case, the name of the entrepreneur Vladimir Fitzner, who heads the St. Petersburg company NPO Bars. It was this NGO that procured components for self-guided torpedoes without a license. It is reported that a subsidiary of Oboronservis, Remvooruzhenie, was supposed to buy components, but, due to a series of oddities in trade deals, there was also an intermediary in the person of Mr. Fitzner. This gentleman, according to investigators, bought components from the Kazakh side for 9,5 million rubles, and “Remvooruzheniyu”, which for some reason could not buy components directly, sold it for 25 millions ... Not a bad broth. In addition, a new contract for a more impressive 120 million rubles has already been prepared.

So where does this Fitzner come from? It turns out that the head of the NPO Bars received protection from the ex-adviser of the ex-minister Anatoly Serdyukov, Mr. Suchkov. Whether and in this case Serdyukov signed some papers on the fact of the deal, it is not reported, because Fitzner and representatives of the ex-minister are silent like fish. Which is not surprising, because they also need to think carefully and coordinate their testimony. SC, in any case, will wait, he has a whole year ahead ...

Puzikov, Vasilyeva, Smetanov, Zakutaylo, the testimony of the governor, letters, cottages, millions, soldiers, cars, weapon, land plots, and there is no evidence, damn it, again there is no opposition to the ex-minister - and this is not an April Fool's joke, but almost an official passage from the investigation.
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  1. Phantom Revolution
    Phantom Revolution April 3 2013 08: 17 New
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    When will this clown be planted? Or did we stole a million from our teacher for 8 years, stole a billion from him, shook a finger and said no more?
    1. krasin
      krasin April 3 2013 08: 24 New
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      P R O T AND V N O.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak April 3 2013 08: 55 New
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        Quote: krasin
        P R O T AND V N O.!


        This is exactly what they fought for and ran into. Elections elections are candidates .....
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 09: 11 New
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          Quote: Vadivak
          Elections elections - candidates

          Hi Vadim! Do you want to say will be planted before the election what So they don’t put them in prison.
          Here I give 100% if Putin (suddenly) tomorrow says that Serdyukov should be responsible for the actions at his post, then the next day Serdyukov will move to a pre-trial detention center.
          Now all this is hitting Putin, his power, his close associates, and will show him sideways if this continues. This business with Serdyukov takes away the belief in justice from ordinary people.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak April 3 2013 09: 20 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Do you want to say will be planted before the election


            Hi Sasha, I want to add that you need to think who to vote for
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 09: 27 New
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              Quote: Vadivak
              , I want to add that you need to think who to vote for

              yes, it turns out that there’s no reason to vote request A thief on a thief and a thief chases.
              1. Sinbad
                Sinbad April 3 2013 15: 07 New
                +5
                As in the cartoon: "The best of the best are over."
                “So send the best of the worst.”
              2. sso-xnumx
                sso-xnumx April 3 2013 21: 07 New
                +6
                I didn’t vote for either GDP or DAM in any elections, so they just sat for one hell in this chair.
            2. vezunchik
              vezunchik April 3 2013 10: 49 New
              +3
              For this there is the head of the Central Election Commission ......
          2. mike_z
            mike_z April 3 2013 10: 52 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Now all this is hitting Putin, his power, his close associates, and will show him sideways if this continues. This business with Serdyukov takes away the belief in justice from ordinary people.


            Putin at the opening of the "KVN Planet" laughed at all the jokes of the KVN men, except for a joke about Serdyukov ... Why would this be?
          3. Gregazov
            Gregazov April 3 2013 12: 26 New
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            And here you are completely wrong. This pre-trial detention center will move to Serdyukov, just as it moved to Vasilyeva.
            1. evgenm55
              evgenm55 April 8 2013 06: 47 New
              +1
              Well, they were joking ... I was just about ....
          4. Horde
            Horde April 3 2013 16: 06 New
            +5
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Here I give 100% if Putin (suddenly) tomorrow says that Serdyukov should be responsible for the actions at his post, then the next day Serdyukov will move to a pre-trial detention center.


            if Putin says so, it will mean that for a day this stool is already in London, and before his death- "I squandered, give 5 thousand I want to go home." laughing
            1. yak69
              yak69 April 3 2013 23: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Horde
              stools already in London

              I would not even be surprised if the stool moves to London and changes its citizenship. He will accuse the PU of political persecution (for the exact implementation of the instructions of the PU).
              At worst, they will build a VIP zone on the shore of Issyk-Kul (so that far from prying eyes) and send it there with Vasilyeva ....
            2. Firstvanguard
              Firstvanguard April 7 2013 09: 07 New
              +2
              When Putin says - "To shoot, it is indicative of the Red Square!" request
          5. dmitreach
            dmitreach April 3 2013 19: 32 New
            +8
            Alexander Romanov, good day.
            Here I give 100% if Putin (suddenly) tomorrow says that Serdyukov should be responsible for the actions at his post, then the next day Serdyukov will move to a pre-trial detention center.

            If the GDP presses the rat, it will bite.
            If Serdyukov speaks, then GDP will not be up to KVN. And I think that Serdyukov is silent because he has something to say, but live in silence - more interesting. And he has so much to "say" ....... that for GDP it’s better not to move his wand so as not to stink ...
            And the GDP fell into an interesting, but gloomy position. For Serdyukov, silence is gold and even more, and for GDP, silence of Serdyukov is a guarantee of popularity among the people. (no matter how strange it sounds ...)

            I see no other explanation. Although there is one more thing: the bug is great, but it is smelly green.
            But the question with Taburetkin rests on a simple reality: what deeds are the people ready to forgive Putin, and which are not ready to forgive.
            Dilemma.
          6. APASUS
            APASUS April 3 2013 21: 27 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Do you want to say they will plant them before the elections? So they won’t plant them at all. Here I give 100% if Putin (suddenly) tomorrow says that Serdyukov should be responsible for the actions at his post, the next day Serdyukov will move to the pre-trial detention center.

            Serdyukov is too big a bird and should open his mouth ?? all sit down !! and what to do ??
            The ideal way out of this situation would be a fatal accident, which will save the face of our Themis and Serdyukov not to go to sew gloves!
            1. Egoza
              Egoza April 3 2013 22: 40 New
              +3
              Quote: APASUS
              The ideal way out of this situation would be a fatal accident,

              Oh! He is so plump! An apoplexy strike is more suitable for him! Like King Paul ....
              1. Raven1972
                Raven1972 April 4 2013 00: 57 New
                +4
                Oga))) Apoplexy hit in the temple with malachite inkwell))) hi good
          7. opkozak
            opkozak April 4 2013 23: 45 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov

            Here I give 100% if Putin (suddenly) tomorrow says that Serdyukov should be responsible for the actions at his post, then the next day Serdyukov will move to jail

          8. walter_rus
            walter_rus April 5 2013 00: 36 New
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            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Now all this hits Putin, by his power, by his close associates, and will come to him sideways, if this continues.

            Didn't Putin appoint him? Or did he not know whom he was appointing?
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            This affair with Serdyukov takes away the belief in justice from ordinary people.

            And until recently, ordinary people still had faith in justice?
          9. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac April 9 2013 13: 38 New
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            if Putin says that Serdyukov is guilty and there is enough evidence of his guilt, Serdyukov will go to the bunk faster than the echo from these words calms down. I consider such an attitude on the part of the RF IC to be simply a mockery towards people and he (SK) reminds me of a hedgehog from a joke - a hedgehog is a proud bird until you kick it.
      2. kris
        kris April 3 2013 08: 58 New
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        Quote: krasin

        P R O T AND V N O.!


        The country is struck by metastases of theft and corruption!
        And the president keeps promising to fight her!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 09: 05 New
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          Quote: kris
          And the president keeps promising to fight her!

          Come on laughing
        2. Vadivak
          Vadivak April 3 2013 09: 11 New
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          Quote: kris
          And the president keeps promising to fight her!


          The promised three years waiting Question why?

          Response

          - Because, according to Art. 196 of the Civil Code, after 3 years the claim period expires
          prescription.
        3. Sinbad
          Sinbad April 3 2013 15: 08 New
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          Quote: kris
          The country is struck by the metastases of theft and corruption! And the president promises to fight it all!

          Who to fight with the country? On business it seems.
        4. True
          True April 3 2013 16: 52 New
          +3
          He is a tumor himself!
      3. kris
        kris April 3 2013 08: 59 New
        +1


        Thanks to the president for this!
      4. redwar6
        redwar6 April 8 2013 18: 26 New
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        Oh, that’s right. Disgusting ..
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 3 2013 08: 50 New
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      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      When this clown is already planted

      Calm down, most likely they will not plant .......
      Everyone, everyone knows how he became Minister of Defense, and why .......
      He is a very informed person about what is happening in the highest echelons of power.
      There are two options:
      either physically removed, but it is dangerous due to noise ...
      -or a little battered nerves to let go ........
      But in no case do not allow trial over him. hi
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak April 3 2013 09: 04 New
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        Quote: baltika-18
        physically eliminate


        Krovinochku? Yes, and not greedy, he organized fishing

        Quote: baltika-18
        either a little patting nerves to let go


        Having patted it when they interrogate in the cell, and so the resort
        1. zanoza
          zanoza April 3 2013 11: 32 New
          +5
          Quote: Vadivak
          ... and so the resort ...


          In the most “threatening” period, the “furniture maker” will seriously “fall ill” and fly abroad “for treatment” (as option “B”)

          In the meantime, the UK, like those dogs, is not let down from the “leash”. Commands "Fas!" not. Only barking is ordered.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 09: 13 New
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        Quote: baltika-18
        Calm down, most likely they will not plant ..

        Yes, people, calm down, Serdyukov didn’t work on the street with a gopstop. He is not dangerous to society laughing
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak April 3 2013 09: 26 New
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          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Serdyukov didn’t work on the street with a hop-stop mobile


          And how I wanted .....

          Uryli honest Zhigana
          And the boy was forsworn,
          The olive in the belly of the revolver,
          Makitra on one side - and Khan!
          Did not endure the soul strained,
          Rotten bazaars and show-offs.
          Specifically, a vagabond,
          Popper, like a tractor ... and ready!
      3. Beck
        Beck April 3 2013 11: 25 New
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        AFTER Afghanistan and Chechnya, the Russian army did not suffer such losses from anyone other than Minister of Defense Serdyukov.

        Material losses, it goes without saying, but also moral losses which in their consequences exceed material losses. Another such Minister of Defense and enemies will not be needed, the army will be defeated without even entering the battlefield.
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 April 3 2013 12: 12 New
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          Beck
          Another such Minister of Defense and enemies will not be needed, the army will be defeated without even entering the battlefield.

          Good day Beck, you are so worried about Russia, I already have tears of tenderness, And how is life in the USA? Is this your real homeland? And then before all from Kazakhstan, comments filled with love for America wrote.
          That’s honest about my feelings, when you talk about the problems of Russia, I have the feeling that you are stepping on someone else’s callus and enjoy it. Not?
          1. Beck
            Beck April 3 2013 12: 36 New
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            Quote: 11Goor11
            You are so worried about Russia, I already have tears of tenderness, But how is life in the USA?


            Sorry, but your analysis is lame. If the West, together with the United States, punishes dictators such as Hussein or Gaddafi, I do not see anything wrong with this. After all, they did not interfere in the affairs of Finland or Bangladesh, because there are no dictators there, regular elections are held there, they do not call for the destruction of neighbors, they do not unleash wars and terrorist attacks. This is the difference I take into account.

            And I never wrote about love for the USA. There is no place for love in political discussions. And the United States, I believe, is not a sworn enemy of which must be destroyed and necessarily by military force, but primarily an economic rival.

            Now the question is to whom? For me, Europe, the USA, and China are primarily economic rivals of the Eurasian Economic Community. And they must be fought economically, not war. After all, even in one deceased, the whole world dies. And among these three, the most dangerous in the future, Eurases, I think, is China. Since, taking into account the historical, imperial, Bogdykhanovsky, celestial mentality, China is the first in the economy, it will say that the current US statements will appear as flowers.

            While in blindness we will bark the Rocky Mountain puma, the Yellow Dragon will appear behind on the banks of the Yantsa and Yellow River. It would be too late to look back.
            1. Beck
              Beck April 3 2013 15: 09 New
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              For comparison with Serdyukov.

              Mikhail Gutkin. Correspondent.

              02.04.2013
              NEW YORK - On Tuesday morning, FBI agents arrested New York State Senator Malcolm Smith and City Hall deputy Daniel Halloran on suspicion of attempting to influence the outcome of a mayoral election in a major US metropolis. In the same case, 4 more people were arrested, including Norami Jasmine, the mayor of New York suburb Spring Valley, and her deputy Joseph Demarest, as well as the heads of local branches of the Republican Party of the Bronx and Queens. "


              "Halloran, a former policeman, allegedly received about $ 40 in cash for his services."

              "According to the prosecutor, Smith promised his interlocutors to use their position in coordinating construction projects. The lawmaker promised one wealthy developer who offered his help in bribing Republican leaders in five districts of New York, a contract for laying the road to Spring Valley. The developer was secret FBI agent. "

              And all this is 40, not a hundred million, and without illegal real estate, and without foreign accounts. Immediately to prison, and not house arrest and the solemn removal of parliamentary powers.
              1. UrraletZ
                UrraletZ April 7 2013 08: 24 New
                +1
                americososia is an animal that has been cut off from its impunity, who does not care about the democratic rights of other countries and it measures everything by its own experience and likeness. Why is it that ALL should follow the American understanding of "democratic values"? - your country, for that matter, was founded by criminals and all kinds of rabble who couldn’t find a place in Europe and you came and destroyed almost completely the indigenous population, subjecting it to terrible genocide. Are these your "democratic values"? Whose cow would moo ... spring will show who shit where and time will put everything in its place ...
                smerdyukov followed your own interests, ruining the Russian army, the army of your most alleged opponent, and the fact that Russia tries to plant a heart for it, then flows of bile from your bad state will begin as with the law on the crook Magnitsky - the American kurultai will choose one more law and will call his "law smerdyukova"
                They don’t bother with their charter in a strange monastery, otherwise you can get it on a hill. Do not believe? - go to Russia! Napoleon and Hitler have been waiting for you ...
                1. Beck
                  Beck April 7 2013 08: 56 New
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                  Quote: UrraletZ
                  Why is it that ALL should follow the American understanding of "democratic values"? - your country, for that matter, was founded by criminals and all kinds of rabble who couldn’t find a place in Europe and you came and destroyed almost completely the indigenous population, subjecting it to terrible genocide. Are these your "democratic values"? Whose cow would moo ... spring will show who shit where and time will put everything in its place ...


                  Yeah. Here he is a magnificent specimen of furious patriotism. If you carefully read my comment, you would understand that I am not writing from America. And then I saw a flag and popper like a hangover. This is something in the site’s program and it sometimes hangs up the wrong flags. From Kazakhstan, I am not writing for Serdyukov.

                  You dumped all sorts of rubbish, not far from your mind, into one pile, with only one purpose, so that it stinks and is more pleased with yourself more ... God help you, in your toilet attempts.
            2. ochakow703
              ochakow703 April 4 2013 17: 46 New
              +3
              I read it, and so it smelled of demagogy ... But I don’t see anything reprehensible in the actions of Hussein, let alone Kathdafi. Now the European-American Michurin Democrats have settled on Assad, which is also bad in their innocent eyes. And why are Americans so caring about democracies in other countries? Do they, the nation of thieves and scammers, have a moral right to condemn, and even more so, to get into sovereign affairs with a dirty paw? In their short history, Americans have done so much evil in the world that Hitler with pinochet is just babies. I am categorically against fascism, my grandfathers fought. But Hitler destroyed the people by establishing a "new order", and the Americans dropped bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki - for the sake of sports interest! So who is worse?
              1. Beck
                Beck April 4 2013 20: 09 New
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                Quote: ochakow703
                I read it, and so it smelled of demagogy ... But I don’t see anything reprehensible in the actions of Hussein, let alone Kathdafi.


                I have already answered such a worldview. I will answer you too. Of course I will gather the cons, but not happiness in them.

                After WWII, the whole world moved away from the principles of monarchism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship. Of course there are still fragments in the form of kings, sheikhs, dictators, but the world is also getting rid of them.

                Why the world community and the USA, among other things, did not use military force against Venezuela Hugo Chavez (although he was not a gift for the USA), against the oil-bearing Nigeria and Indonesia. And only because free elections were regularly held in these countries, the leaders of these countries came to power legitimately, they did not shoot at their people, did not attack neighboring states.

                The dictators Hussein, Gaddafi, Assad seized power by a military coup. No elections were held. They shot at their peoples, poisoned with chemical weapons. They attacked neighboring countries. They ordered their special services to carry out terrorist acts in third countries. Here is the world community in the person of the UN and has given sanctions to use military force against them., Then the dictators did not respond to calls.

                You support these dictators for only one reason to poke the United States. The United States has flaws, but how to blame them for the fact that, with UN sanction, they helped the peoples of Libya and Iraq to overthrow dictators

                And in general, if you whitewash Gaddafi, Hussein, Assad, then it is necessary to exalt such dictators as Pinochet, Pol-Pot who destroyed 1/3 of his people, Bokassu-cannibal. The first three are no different from the last three, except that they were not people. And do not blame, in history, such dictators as Franco and Hitler.

                The concept of sovereignty comes from human relationships. If we both see on the street how a husband beats his wife and children, we won’t intervene for them.

                After the capture of Okinawa, the United States offered Japan five times to capitulate, warning that they had weapons of high power. Japan has refused. Stating that they will fight on their islands until the last soldier. The US General Staff calculated that the war could drag on for 1,5 years. The loss of US soldiers can reach a million. Losses of Japan up to 5 million. including civilians. The United States dropped the atom, 200 people died, Japan capitulated a week later.

                If in November 1941, when the Nazis were eager for Moscow, Soviet aviation would drop two atoms into two German cities, then Germany would capitulate in December 1941. And there would be no 4 years of war and 50 million victims of this war.
                1. pavlo
                  pavlo April 4 2013 22: 42 New
                  +2
                  Well, you're really fabulous!
                2. 11Goor11
                  11Goor11 April 5 2013 00: 12 New
                  +2
                  Beck
                  If in November 1941, when the Nazis were eager for Moscow, Soviet aviation would drop two atoms into two German cities

                  Was the Hiroshima murder self-defense of the United States in the face of imminent death? Ah, "it was done to protect the civilian population of Japan!"
                  You yell Beck.
                  It was just a full-scale test of the new device, and the demonstration "That's who the boss is now in the world."
                  Just two main goals. And the more civilians died, the trials are SUCCESSFUL, and the demonstration is EFFECTIVE.
                  This rotten pragmatic approach of the American elite to the most valuable thing that ordinary people have - (our little defenseless life) infuriates me.
                  And you, with your attempts to justify more than obvious killers - look very sorry.
                  You once said in a fit of frankness that "there can be no permanent friends only permanent interests"
                  So this is the essence of Western policy, BUT they choose the most vile and bloody means of achieving goals, and at the same time they talk about peace and love.
                  All according to Orwell? Did not read? And in vain he reveals your hypocrisy in a few words.
                  In his dystopia "1984", several government organizations are described:
                  "Ministry of Peace" - actually controls the military
                  The "Ministry of Abundance" - in fact controlled the cruel distribution of food - disloyal - you will die of hunger
                  "Ministry of Truth" - invented an official lie
                  "Ministry of Love" - ​​secret police + Inquisition
                  Handsomely? But your real western world invented yet another “wonderful” means of control -
                  "The Ministry of Mind" - the organization of obedient fools completely devoid of logic, starting from a very young age
                  These are those who no doubt accept all mutually exclusive statements, such as "For the sake of world peace, we are starting another war!" "We fight extremism, we arm the rebels!" "We are for democracy and Human Rights, we are tightening laws, making the army out of police, building camps for prisoners, and setting up jails without trial on suspicion of treason!"
                  Do you know anything about the speedy legalization of pedophilia? Yes, yes, they heard right, because homosexuals with their Human Rights are no longer relevant. Now the Children’s Rights will go into play (for early sexual "enlightenment").
                  I am sure you will easily find a simple and "beautiful" excuse for any abomination, you just have a talent for it.
                  So how do you justify pedophiles?
                  1. Beck
                    Beck April 5 2013 09: 09 New
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                    Quote: 11Goor11
                    Was the Hiroshima murder self-defense of the United States in the face of imminent death? Ah, "it was done to protect the civilian population of Japan!" Youl Beck. It was simply a full-scale test of the new device, and the demonstration "Here is who is the boss in the world now." There are two main goals. And the more civilians died, the trials are SUCCESSFUL, and the demonstration is EFFECTIVE.


                    I gave you calculations based on facts, but you didn’t refute them with your own arguments and tremble, on the basis of Soviet propaganda, which rested in a Bose. Choose between two exits from the war.

                    The war drags on for a year and about 6 million people die this year.
                    Or the war ends in a week with the death of 200 thousand people.

                    The war ends in a week with the death of 200 thousand people of the country of the aggressor. Or the war drags on for 4 years with the deaths of 50 million people, 20 million of whom are Soviet people.

                    What can the mothers of 50 million victims tell you when they find out that you had the opportunity to end the war in a week and prevent the death of their sons.

                    WATCH is you. In order to cheat only whom you admit millionth sacrifice, and in your timid language speak the commies about propaganda of narcotism.

                    MUCH is you if you bring as an argument a fictitious dystopia to which Oruel ridiculed in this dystopia exactly the communist ideology, the remnants of the scandal which you use.

                    And what does pedophilia have to do with it? The topic on the page is not about pedophiles. Let me ask you, in your own way - Do you know anything about criminal organ transplants? Do you know anything about imperial oil prices? You don’t know anything about the crisis of bourgeois art. So connect this with Hiroshima.
                3. yak69
                  yak69 April 5 2013 21: 40 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Beck
                  USA .... .... under UN sanction, helped the people of Libya, Iraq topple dictators

                  Eeyore almost fell out of the chair !! ....
                  I even forgot the words.
                  ETOGES, how to love America in order to believe in the pure thoughts of its power!
                  In my opinion, this is a clinical case. And he is not being treated.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck April 6 2013 09: 49 New
                    0
                    Quote: yak69
                    Eeyore almost fell out of his chair !! .... I even forgot my words. Well, how to love America in order to believe in the pure thoughts of its power! In my opinion, this is a clinical case. And he is not being treated.


                    In the first Iraq war of 1991, there was a UN resolution authorizing the use of force against Iraq, which the USSR also signed.

                    In Libya, a UN resolution was adopted that established a no-fly zone and allowed the use of NATO aircraft. This resolution was also signed by Russia.

                    Now, tumble out of the chair, hit your head on the floor, maybe amnesia will pass.
                4. evgen762
                  evgen762 April 6 2013 12: 53 New
                  +1
                  "After WWII, the whole world moved away from the principles of monarchism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, dictatorship. Of course there are still fragments in the form of kings, sheikhs, dictators, but the world is also getting rid of them."
                  Why is it bad? There are enough monarchies in the world, and has life in Libya and Iraq improved after free elections there? And anyway, what the hell does someone decide how to live in another country?
                  1. Beck
                    Beck April 6 2013 13: 42 New
                    -1
                    Quote: evgen762
                    There are enough monarchies in the world, and has life in Libya and Iraq improved after free elections there? And anyway, what the hell does someone decide how to live in another country?


                    There are enough monarchies, but they are leaving the historical scene.

                    In Libya and Iraq, life has become undeniably better without an inclusive dictate of power. And financially they will live better, it takes time to recover from wars. If life was worse in Iraq, Iraq would not have concluded an agreement with Russia on the supply of arms worth $ 3 billion. Iraq is recovering has income from the sale of oil. Libya will also dispose of gas revenues.

                    When they threw off the dictator Hitler. Germany lived in the years 1945-1950 worse than at the end of 1930, but then recovered.

                    So that no one arbitrarily decides how to live in another country and the UN was created. And Russia has the voice of Veto there. Therefore, the troops of the West do not enter Syria because there is no UN permission for that.
                5. evgenm55
                  evgenm55 April 8 2013 07: 02 New
                  +1
                  Yeahhh .... You really ... And the peoples of Iraq, Libya, Syria did not forget to ask, do they need what they did to them? Is there an answer? And about 5 years of the war with Japan, you’re probably right-American I won’t be able to cope. I just forgot a little that our two fronts made them in the tail and mane in three weeks. History of the Second World War. And this is the main reason for surrender.
                  1. Beck
                    Beck April 8 2013 09: 33 New
                    -1
                    Quote: evgenm55
                    And about the 5 years of the war with Japan, you probably wouldn’t be able to cope with the Americans.


                    The Soviet army only occupied Manchuria. Japan surrendered due to the atomic bombing.

                    Learn the story. And if you know in general then do not sprinkle it with powdered dust. Everywhere and everywhere only we. I honor the victory of Soviet weapons in Manchuria, also because my father reached Port Arthur in 1945. But the defeat of the Kwantung Army had little effect on the government’s decision to capitulate in August.
                6. aleshka
                  aleshka April 9 2013 19: 34 New
                  0
                  IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ON THE OAK DOUBLE OF MUSHROOM, LISTEN TO BEK AND YOU AT ALL ARE NORMAL !!!
      4. Manager
        Manager April 3 2013 12: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: baltika-18
        Calm down, most likely they will not plant .......
        Everyone, everyone knows how he became Minister of Defense, and why .......
        He is a very informed person about what is happening in the highest echelons of power.
        There are two options:
        either physically removed, but it is dangerous due to noise ...
        -or a little battered nerves to let go ........
        But in no case do not allow trial over him.


        Most likely it will just be different.
        Interrogation is an accusation - and supposedly flight from the country to the same Britain.
        Or they just cut it and hush it up. In any case, Iravt such as Zhirnomord do not sit in prison.
      5. taseka
        taseka April 7 2013 10: 15 New
        0
        Oddly enough, but the option will be seen - "or a little battered nerves to let go ........"
      6. plebs
        plebs April 8 2013 02: 05 New
        +1
        either physically removed, but it is dangerous due to noise ...
        Serdyukov is far from certain, probably for such a case in one of the western banks there is a “piece of paper”, as Professor Preobrazhensky said “not a piece of paper, armor”, and there are 3 options for this, to drag out the matter until the people forget and the zombie man will help.
    3. predator.3
      predator.3 April 3 2013 09: 31 New
      14
      As for us, you’re in prison, it means that you stole a little, but if you stole billions, so if you start a criminal case, you will first be warned that they will come with a search, and then they will buy a ticket for the Moscow-London flight and spend with the orchestra! wassat

      By the way, where is the mysterious Mr. Puzikoff now?
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 3 2013 09: 46 New
        10
        Quote: predator.3
        By the way, where is the mysterious Mr. Puzikoff

        Somewhere puzikoff warms.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 10: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: predator.3

        By the way, where is the mysterious Mr. Puzikoff now?

        Rather, there, where a simple hard worker is not allowed on the threshold. Perhaps visiting .......... himself hi
    4. Garrin
      Garrin April 3 2013 10: 02 New
      +9
      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      When will this clown be planted?

      The most annoying thing is that he will not be imprisoned, but they are holding us for the clowns.
      1. KamikadZzzE1959
        KamikadZzzE1959 April 3 2013 12: 16 New
        +4
        In the USSR, several towers would shine on him.
        Dreams Dreams...
      2. Beck
        Beck April 3 2013 12: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: Garrin
        The most annoying thing is that he will not be imprisoned, but they are holding us for the clowns.


        I also feel it will not reach the trial and landing. After all, in court what facts can be revealed. Most likely it will end in an accident and there will be no one to judge except improvised performers.

        Of course we will be glad to make a mistake.
    5. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 3 2013 12: 25 New
      +1
      I do not believe that he is not afraid of anything. Surely he’s sitting somewhere in a corner and is shaking with fear that someone will take and even bring out a killer Old, by which to sit on his bucket ... Therefore, let this circus continue until the stool follows the example of Boris Abramych. Actually the only way out for him.
      1. Normal
        Normal April 3 2013 13: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Geisenberg
        Therefore, let this circus continue until the stool follows the example of Boris Abramych. Actually the only way out for him.

        Is the British intelligence services removed? (According to Starikov)
    6. True
      True April 3 2013 16: 48 New
      +3
      No one will plant him. Will be sent to the link. In London. Have you forgotten which country you live in?
    7. bandabas
      bandabas April 3 2013 19: 44 New
      +2
      No matter how funny. And who will plant ?. Those who posed, approved the type of "reform", also signed orders. orders. "voiced" in the media ?. Now a new round has begun. Performers will be guilty. A banal saying- "The circus left. But the clowns remained."
    8. starshina78
      starshina78 April 3 2013 19: 51 New
      +2
      The raven will not peck out the crow's eye! I mean, a person who has fallen into the highest circle in our reality never went to prison. They can cheat him, drag him to interrogations, write about his crimes in the newspapers, show reports on TV, and as a result a certain number of years conditionally, in connection with complete repentance (remember, 9 years conditionally to the Minister of Justice, or who he was there, Kovalev) . After a year, an amnesty, again in connection with repentance and full coverage of the damage, and the appointment of some sort of deputy trade department (all the same, by profession). How do you like this?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 3 2013 21: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: starshina78
        and full coverage of damage,

        So even cover the damage would shake!
    9. Simon
      Simon April 3 2013 20: 31 New
      +1
      And he stole the sausage in the store, because he wanted to eat, but the homeless did not have money, he got five years. With all these accusations, like water off a goose.
    10. brelok
      brelok April 4 2013 05: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Phantom Revolution
      When will this clown be planted? Or did we stole a million from our teacher for 8 years, stole a billion from him, shook a finger and said no more?

      The most interesting will never be imprisoned! he is alive while he is silent. He is only upside down in court. There are people above him!
    11. garik404
      garik404 April 4 2013 09: 52 New
      +4

      "plant men, plant
      bring to court - bring! "(C)
      1. Grigorich
        Grigorich April 4 2013 11: 31 New
        +2
        It is a pity there is no GDP in the frame!
    12. FED
      FED April 4 2013 13: 51 New
      +1
      Impalement

      A very cruel execution that came to Europe from the East. The essence of this execution was that a man was put on his stomach, one sat on him to prevent him from moving, the other held his neck. A man had a stake inserted in the anus, which was then driven in with a mallet; then they drove a stake into the ground. Sometimes a person was simply lowered onto a stake fixed from below, lubricating the anus first with grease. A good option ..)))))))))))
    13. bandabas
      bandabas April 4 2013 22: 00 New
      +2
      NEVER. And he will become some sort of adviser (assistant. Deputy, etc., etc.), and they will be put between those. who tried to hook him. Not. no not from above. And so. Middle link. Well. and those. who works in the field. By the way. I am surprised. that Mr. Serdyukov is not of Great Britain. They don’t surrender ours.
    14. maximus_1974
      maximus_1974 April 4 2013 23: 38 New
      +4
      You can’t plant, hell knows, there are other ways of executing punishment, he is an enemy of the state, and with the enemy there is only one option .......
    15. IRKUT
      IRKUT April 8 2013 11: 45 New
      +1
      Crow does not pick out the crow
    16. dimon-media
      dimon-media April 8 2013 13: 03 New
      +1
      Well, do not plant! To hell with all prejudices, moratoria and humanity! Moreover, such a concept as “humanity” is generally not acceptable to enemies of the people and traitors! To ruin the army, our stronghold and the defense of sovereignty - is it humane on his part? Scum such as Serdyukov, herds herds like cattle in sheds and burn from a flamethrower. Just like the Germans did in films about the Second World War. A hundred times already got these enemies. No mercy for them. When will they wash their snot with blood ...? Probably not in this life. I won’t wait. Well, no council on them !!! Like water off a duck's back..
    17. AlNick
      AlNick April 9 2013 07: 42 New
      +2
      Everyone, of course, remembers the film "Gentlemen of Fortune", there are good replicas of the thief Fedi (Savely Kramarov) and the police taxi driver (Oleg Vidov:
      He's “Sitting?” “Who?” “Well, is the monument sitting, standing? - Here is a crank-man, who will put him in prison ?!
      He’s a monument! "
  2. SCS
    SCS April 3 2013 08: 23 New
    11
    - "The investigation has questions to the ex-minister and in the strange case of the illegal transfer of weapons of Kazakh manufacture across the Russian border."
    ---
    Questions, questions, questions .... not one hundred execution sentences have already been reached, but things are still there!
    and the photo is what to the article. and you want the right side ....
    1. smel
      smel April 3 2013 08: 57 New
      +8
      and you want the right side ..
      And better in the back of the head from PM
      1. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel April 3 2013 09: 33 New
        +3
        Better as florists in 19th-century France.
      2. Gemar
        Gemar April 3 2013 09: 41 New
        +4
        Quote: smel
        And better in the back of the head from PM

        Not, from PM - it is impractical, albeit cheap.
        It is better, during the next test of the YARS or LINER (there are like separating warheads), to put Serdyukov and his favorite in them. Shmylit on the Kura ... Favorites will act as false targets, and Serdyukov will hit with an exact hit the training target at the training ground. For this, he can be forgiven everything, from the purchase of English furniture for the fleet, ending with the construction of a summer residence.
        1. Alex45
          Alex45 April 3 2013 09: 54 New
          +6
          Quote: Gamar
          It is better at the next test of the YARS or LINER (there are like separating warheads), to put Serdyukov and his favorite in them. Crazy about the Kura ...


          I would be careful not even close to let this team to such weapons. During the flight, they will either break something, or sell, steal, or maybe the enemy will merge information about the latest weapons. Well, the fact that everything around is shabby is for sure
          1. Gemar
            Gemar April 3 2013 10: 08 New
            +3
            Quote: Alex45
            they will sell, steal, and maybe even information about the latest weapons will be merged to the enemy. Well, the fact that everything around will be ruined is for sure

            Let it go! I do not believe that they even withstand 3g overload. Well, or, as an option, tell them that these are urgent measures to send important witnesses in London. They then, during the flight, there will be no time to mischief, they will dream of a "civilized" life among high society and Muslims on Foggy Albion.
            1. True
              True April 3 2013 17: 04 New
              +3
              Take everything from him, and burn him at the CHPP. With a black sheep, beat off at least a couple of kilowatts.
  3. denisey
    denisey April 3 2013 08: 24 New
    0
    This is not a man, but a moral one! How the earth wears this scum.
  4. igor36
    igor36 April 3 2013 08: 25 New
    +7
    He is a swindler, or rather the wedding general of a gang of swindlers, which the investigation wants to understand, to find those who stand behind him, that's just the question whether they dare to voice and even more so put these gray cardinals.
  5. vilenich
    vilenich April 3 2013 08: 25 New
    +8
    Puzikov, Vasiliev, Smetanov, Zakutailo, testimony of the governor, letters, dachas, millions, soldiers, cars, weapons, land, and evidencedamn it, against the ex-minister again no - and this is not an April Fool’s joke, but an almost official passage from the investigation.

    That's the whole key phrase of the article!
    Again, they shake the air for wit and everyone will quietly go into the mud!
    And you need to definitely plant, regardless of relatives and not pulling the landing on time to the next election. Otherwise, this vile process cannot be stopped.
    1. Soldier
      Soldier April 3 2013 11: 29 New
      +6
      Quote: vilenich
      And you need to definitely plant
      True, it is true. Only in connection with the prolonged farce, the question arises; FOR WHOM DO WE WRITE IT ALL? Does anyone really hope that the Great and Mighty Uncle Vova visits our site, how terrified the people's hatred and cries of justice will cry out of resentment, that it’s like, and I didn’t even the voice of the people, and the rage, the one who is filled will immediately sign the stool (and others like him Chubais, Makarov and other villains) a death sentence. That is something we will rejoice ... Although, in our scenario, perhaps even our respected Three-Volt John does not believe.
      1. vilenich
        vilenich April 3 2013 14: 19 New
        +3
        Quote: Armeec
        AND FOR WHOM WE WE WRITE IT ALL?

        Yes, actually, apparently, each with its own purpose. For example, I compare my opinion with the opinion of colleagues in the forum.
        Quote: Armeec
        , The Great and Mighty Uncle Vova, will visit our site,

        This, of course, is unlikely, but the relevant services, I think, are analyzing the materials of such forums, based on the results of which they prepare generalized materials (I don’t know for sure, but I would do so).
        So that it is possible in some form the echoes of the local battles will reach the leadership.
  6. Nina Czerny
    Nina Czerny April 3 2013 08: 25 New
    23
    In all the materials about Serdyukov and his associates, for some reason, it is never mentioned that the whole team "arrived" in the military department from the tax service. Judging by the style of leadership and organization of work, ladies and gentlemen created and honed their system of fraud and theft there. So maybe it's time to check Serdyukov’s activities at the previous place of work? I am sure that there will be no less millions and billions of stolen money.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel April 3 2013 09: 35 New
      +4
      Maybe less (mastery, after all), but I'm sure it’s cynical.
  7. max-02215
    max-02215 April 3 2013 08: 26 New
    +1
    Yes, they are tormenting me with something, far from vague doubts, I think that all these conversations are actively searching for the switchman, but Taburetkin will most likely go as an ambassador to the banana republic, to some of the fighter’s battalion in the best case, or, like Irkutsk a killer with a delay in execution, but for life ...
  8. denisey
    denisey April 3 2013 08: 26 New
    +6
    This is not a man but a moral lesson ..! How the earth wears such.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 09: 23 New
      +8
      Quote: denisey
      This is not a man but a moral lesson ..!

      This moral uro ... was the Minister of Defense of Russia!
      Nov 20 2012 - “There are no complaints against Serdyukov.” Putin said

      Well, the former village teacher Ilya Farber, meanwhile, is serving 8 years in a maximum security colony for damage allegedly caused to the village club in the amount of 940 thousand rubles and the alleged bribe of 300 thousand rubles

      The punishment should be commensurate with the crime, then how much should Serdyukov get and most importantly from whom, if there is no court in Russia for the elite?
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 3 2013 11: 18 New
        10
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This moral uro ... was the Minister of Defense of Russia!
        Nov 20 2012 - “There are no complaints against Serdyukov.” Putin said


        Another version of the resignation, just explaining these words of Putin.

        In the chair of the Minister of Defense, Anatoly Serdyukov in 2007 succeeded Sergei Ivanov. According to a source close to the FSB military counterintelligence department, Ivanov did not agree with certain actions of Serdyukov - in particular, he dismissed several people from the Ministry of Defense whom Ivanov defended. And the FSB military counterintelligence began to collect information about Serdyukov. Moreover, the head of the military counterintelligence reported on this work personally to Ivanov, so that the information did not get into FSB's own security departmentheaded by former assistant Serdyukov Sergey Korolev since the summer of 2011. For the time being, the materials were not allowed to move. A good moment came in September, when President Vladimir Putin had a health problems and Ivanov remained on the power economy. The materials went into active development and formed the basis of criminal cases, and they reported to Putin when the flywheel was already untwisted. The president decided to dismiss Serdyukov.

        Serdyukov about the Ministry of Defense
        "When I came to the Ministry of Defense, I was, frankly, discouraged by the volume of theft."

        Putin about Serdyukov
        “Neither the investigation nor the court, all the more so, did not personally make any claims to Serdyukov. He is not working anywhere. But if he wants to find a job somewhere and they will take him, I don’t think that we should interfere. A person has the right to work. We are not the 37th year. "


        In general, the version that Serdyukov suffered not because of corruption but because he decided to squeeze out the military-industrial complex bosses and deprived the general
        military property and budget management.

        Giving their functions to outsourcing, military structures also freed real estate, says a former Defense Ministry official. We are talking about the units of the former main housing and operational management, military service, consumer services, bases and warehouses (these objects are now in the criminal case). Serdyukov decided to sell part of this property, and send the money to buy housing for officers. However, there was another, unshared item of expenditure - import of western weapons. Serdyukov was skeptical about the ability of the domestic defense industry to quickly and efficiently arm the army, so the assembly of Italian Iveco LMV M65 armored vehicles was deployed at the Oboronservis repair plants, the assembly of Israeli drones Aeronautics Defense Systems was planned, several were purchased light helicopter AS350 / 355 Ecureil for testing.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 April 3 2013 12: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          Another version of the resignation, just explaining these words of Putin.

          That is, if you accept this version, then it turns out that Putin is the root, and Serdyukov is scrupulous.
          If so, then in principle the situation becomes transparent.
          1. Ascetic
            Ascetic April 3 2013 17: 19 New
            +6
            Quote: baltika-18
            That is, if you accept this version, then it turns out that Putin is the root, and Serdyukov is scrupulous.

            No, it’s more likely that under Medvedev’s digging and the Family overseeing him, which Putin GUARANTEED judicial inviolability .. And it turned out like a feint with his ears, like Putin had nothing to do with it, they themselves asked for it, and at the same time, he seemed to be fulfilling the agreement .. The stool is free, unlike Hodor, who was first closed with the help of the same Stool and then began to hang things up gradually (moreover, Hodora surrendered his own oligarchs). Here, not the strings go, but simply ropes to Medvedev’s wife, the immaculate praying mantis Linnik plus the Dagestan mafia Dvorkovich (who has a Dagestani wife). And if you pull these ropes now, you have to deal with the international banking community on Wall Street. Okay, the Bilyalov brothers were expelled. Magomed Ali received an honorable resignation, here is a local level of interest. But saying A planting Serdyukov, I must say B about the whole zhi a handshake mafia surrounded by Medvedev. and then I'm sorry about the consequences, you can only guess .. a lot depends on external players and the situation in the world. Therefore, the situation is stalemate for Putin ..
            There are attempts to put pressure on this mafia .. A run over of Vekselberg under Putin, organized by the mouth of a young man from nowhere in fact about the lawlessness of that in Arkhangelsk, is shown .. shown on all TV channels .. Explicitly planned action and words Putin hint
            “As for Vekselberg Viktor Feliksovich, I don’t know the legal side of this matter, in detail, in any case, but he is a completely reasonable person, responsible. I’ll talk to him, see what’s there, what’s the situation, to help preserve Arkhangelsk in its original form and in the way that experts consider it necessary ”

            So it’s not so simple in the Danish kingdom.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 April 3 2013 19: 33 New
              +3
              Quote: Ascetic
              So it’s not so simple in the Danish kingdom.

              But Putin put Serdyukov in 2007 a year before the end of his presidential term.
              Or is it also from the category of peculiar agreements, from the same row Medvedev, the successor .......
              Or Medvedev ....... Serdyukov ....... Discrediting ... But Putin was the Prime Minister ....
              Complicated chains come out ..... But this is subject to Putin's sinlessness.
              And he is hardly a "scarlet flower"?
              It seems to me that before the Olympics there will not be any drastic changes in the situation. Everything will be at a relatively stable level. But after the Olympics, an explosive situation is possible.
              What do you think Stanislav about this?
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic April 3 2013 22: 59 New
                +4
                Quote: baltika-18
                It seems to me that before the Olympics there will not be any drastic changes in the situation. Everything will be at a relatively stable level. But after the Olympics, an explosive situation is possible.
                What do you think Stanislav about this?


                It is generally said in the power circles that they will tighten the nuts in the Caucasus after Sochi .. And what will happen .. there will be a dictatorship through a referendum to amend the Constitution
                but for this you need not get involved in any revolution or local armed conflict. While our economy is liberal according to liberal patterns and the dependence on the dollar through the Central Bank, the Americans will be clinging to Putin that they have not completely transferred the assets to the ownership of American multinational corporations and even squeeze out compraldors, because the tribute goes through the Stabilization Fund .. They hate Putin but they put up with it, and if you give up on the basics .this is a direct confrontation, and you need to be prepared for it,
            2. maximus_1974
              maximus_1974 April 5 2013 00: 05 New
              +1
              Yes, in the Danish kingdom, rallies of parties - mother do not cry, such multi-ways are played by just the butler - grandchildren of a chess player, but is it any wonder when in almost any team there are clans, intrigues, the struggle for access to the body, etc., but in the kingdom it’s just large-scale , and more opportunities. The main thing again is not to power our POWER.
      2. Manager
        Manager April 3 2013 12: 12 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This moral uro ... was the Minister of Defense of Russia!
        Nov 20 2012 - “There are no complaints against Serdyukov.” Putin said

        Well, the former village teacher Ilya Farber, meanwhile, is serving 8 years in a maximum security colony for damage allegedly caused to the village club in the amount of 940 thousand rubles and the alleged bribe of 300 thousand rubles

        The punishment should be commensurate with the crime, then how much should Serdyukov get and most importantly from whom, if there is no court in Russia for the elite?


        I really want a mini-uprising) It’s pure that the people would stand up, punish Serdyukov with a lynch and again I went to work in offices and factories)))))
      3. common man
        common man April 3 2013 16: 10 New
        +3
        Unfortunately, we have a punishment back in proportion to the damage caused. The more you steal, the less you get.
        1. not good
          not good April 3 2013 20: 02 New
          +4
          This is not punishment, this is a bone to ordinary people. Father-in-law takes revenge for the scolded daughter. While the people gnaw the bone on the top, everything is calm, and as soon as we assume, by the summer people will get tired they will throw a new bone, for example, they will remove the prime minister and then no one will remember the stool .to. all rush to suck up a new mountain of bones, and there you can (by year of commercials by 2014) disperse United Russia and the torn People’s Front. And at the peak of popular excitement, excuse the indignation, create something like the People’s Initsyative Initiative and then who needs this Vaska and that's it his cats. The truth is that the GDP has suddenly suddenly flashed here, I would not want a "random" repetition of the story of Hugo Chavez, otherwise there will be so much interesting that he will dig in the taiga at the time.
  9. omsbon
    omsbon April 3 2013 08: 28 New
    +4
    Aspen and a thick rope from this freak DO NOT LEAVE !
    Well, the prison, in any case, is definitely waiting for him!
  10. Volyna
    Volyna April 3 2013 08: 38 New
    13
    As Kvachkova decided to plant, so quickly cooked up evidence. And with this "Honduras" will they still dance for a long time?
  11. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN April 3 2013 08: 44 New
    17
    How such only the earth wears? ........................ Bad? Good? Was Stalin? ................. BUT HE NEEDS NOW WHERE WE DID NOT FALL INTO THE Void!
    1. garik404
      garik404 April 4 2013 09: 56 New
      +3
      Yes!
      In this case, a slightly different picture is more suitable ...
  12. Egoza
    Egoza April 3 2013 08: 45 New
    10
    Attorney Perry Mason advised his client: “Remember one phrase -“ All questions to my lawyer! ”And this is the only phrase that you should say to all police questions” - Seeing Serdyukov also read dudes in the interval between signing orders! laughing
    And wha! You yourself complained that there’s nothing to watch on TV. "Watch the serial film-thriller-comedy about Serdyukov!" (TV show announcement)
    And that the 1 of April has passed does not mean anything. Here we are in Ukraine already accustomed that every day is Fool's Day! hi
    Hello everybody! And do not be upset!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 3 2013 12: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      And that the 1 of April has passed does not mean anything. Here we are in Ukraine already accustomed that every day is Fool's Day!

      N-yes .........
      In this matter, complete unity .........
  13. plohoy
    plohoy April 3 2013 08: 46 New
    +5
    Anatoly Eduardovich will burn you in ADU ......... And the COURT will take place sooner or later on you ...... So BURN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Manager
      Manager April 3 2013 12: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: plohoy

      Anatoly Eduardovich will burn you in ADU ......... And the COURT will take place sooner or later on you ...... So BURN !!!!!!!!!!!!!


      One is already on fire! (Birch) and this one will end! Yes, and all of them are corrupt stitches.
  14. valokordin
    valokordin April 3 2013 08: 49 New
    +9
    Quote: Volyna
    As Kvachkova decided to plant, so quickly cooked up evidence. And with this "Honduras" will they still dance for a long time?

    The traitor will not be imprisoned, but Bastrykin is the trump six, which cannot beat the trump jack, because it is not 37 years old. Is not it clearly said. And this landing can be expected if we wait after 2018. I think the statute of limitations will not pass. Re-sell the deck and wait for the trump cards to change, or some kind of truth-cutter will not use the ice pick. Everything in the world is not forever, except for music.
  15. doctor3006
    doctor3006 April 3 2013 08: 57 New
    +5
    Well, Volodin, even now the scale of corruption in the country is beginning to reach you, and who is the main promoter of all this?
  16. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 April 3 2013 08: 58 New
    +2
    Until the "honest" Bastrykin himself is taken for the gills, high-profile cases will be washed out and indulged in oblivion.
    1. smel
      smel April 3 2013 09: 01 New
      +2
      I agree. Bastrykina will be put on Kukan - the successor will move
  17. Alex45
    Alex45 April 3 2013 08: 58 New
    +5
    Yes, the company "Serdyukov and K" raised the bar in the amount of how much you can steal with impunity.
    Yesterday searches and arrests, seemingly in Veliky Novgorod, were organized by the vice-governor of the region, the organizer of fraud with road repairs. The number of the lost was announced in 30 million rubles. and they may even be imprisoned. But against the background of the Serdyukovschina, it’s generally some beggars who beg.
  18. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver April 3 2013 08: 58 New
    +4
    Quote: Phantom Revolution
    When will this clown be planted?

    And who will plant? Prosecutor Ignatenko or the like? The law enforcement system and the courts themselves have rotted away from corruption and permissiveness. Waiting for some justice from them is just a waste of time.
  19. Averias
    Averias April 3 2013 09: 01 New
    +6
    Yes, Serdyukov can be called anyone (and rightly so), but you can’t call him a fool, it’s a fact. But he perfectly understood that sooner or later an incident could happen (as now). He compromised to the higher echelons of power abundantly. And clearly not verbal, but documented. I understand that now they are trying to find and seize this compromising material from him. Yeah, and he was like that, he took it and gave it away. understands perfectly well that this is his carte blanche. And no one will touch him. The same with Vasilyeva. Just another explanation for what is happening, I can not find.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 3 2013 09: 08 New
      +6
      Quote: Averias
      He compromised to the higher echelons of power abundantly.


      Power eats up any incriminating evidence and wipes itself away, then it’s the power, And if he only opens his mouth so much lead will be tucked into it that it will sprinkle from his ass
    2. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 3 2013 09: 09 New
      +3
      Most likely there is compromising evidence, but you can also instruct the special services to remove Sirdyukov and disguise it under a heart attack or something like that.
      1. Averias
        Averias April 3 2013 09: 24 New
        +1
        I think that work is ongoing in this direction. As the hero of everyone’s favorite movie said - that’s without noise and dust laughing
      2. Onotollah
        Onotollah April 3 2013 11: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: dmitry46
        Most likely there is compromising evidence, but you can also instruct the special services to remove Sirdyukov and disguise it under a heart attack or something like that.

        Well, for example, he hanged himself as Berezovsky or drowned in a bath. Although it is probably better in the toilet.
  20. dmitry46
    dmitry46 April 3 2013 09: 11 New
    +2
    Tired of news about this MUDAKA already! I don’t even want to read ....
    That's when there is news that he was arrested or he died from diarrhea, then I will be happy and will read this news with pleasure.
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort April 3 2013 10: 46 New
      +4
      I don’t even want to comment, admit ... The topic is ridiculous, everything is clear to everyone, but the authorities continue to play political correctness and portray democratic justice. God forbid if at least 10% of all cases of "abuse" prove. But most likely even this will not happen ...
      It is disgusting that the role of clowns in this performance is still not Serdyukov, but you and I ...
  21. shurup
    shurup April 3 2013 09: 11 New
    +2
    In the case of a direct threat of Serdyukov getting on the stool of the defendants, moreover, in an open trial and with the prospect of prolonged confinement with confiscation, two options are possible. The first is a classic car crash or the use of mushrooms and baked vodka against heart failure. The second is impeachment.
    The Savior did not hesitate to wash the feet of his apostles. Neoliberals prefer the principle of "hand washes."
  22. Doctor Evil
    Doctor Evil April 3 2013 09: 11 New
    +3
    Serdyukov planted? I do not believe this is fantastic! Also, the title will be given by "Hero of Labor of the Russian Federation." It’s disgusting, pah ... He would have thundered with shackles in a quarry, and everything is smiling.
  23. Ross
    Ross April 3 2013 09: 19 New
    +3
    Some kind of unsinkable stool. His ability would be in a different direction. Pentagon consultant, for example, Obama to help from a friend of Putin. bully
  24. patriot2
    patriot2 April 3 2013 09: 20 New
    +1
    Thanks to Alexei for a good satire!
    I would like to add: no one noticed whether Serdyukov had angel wings? If you don’t notice, then the halo over his head is definitely present. Icon painters - where is the icon "St. Anatoly"!? I did not find her in the churches. Or sculpt a statue "outright Anatoly"? laughing
  25. ed65b
    ed65b April 3 2013 09: 21 New
    +5
    Bl..b Does anyone steal from us?
    1. Averias
      Averias April 3 2013 09: 29 New
      +4
      Imagine, and in the same Singapore, some sort of economic crime scammer is sitting in your office, and repeating day after day - Bl..b Does anyone steal from us? laughing
  26. treskoed
    treskoed April 3 2013 09: 24 New
    +1
    Question of time - the power will be replaced, it is necessary to answer. It is a pity only, to live in this wonderful time .....
  27. Alvin
    Alvin April 3 2013 09: 30 New
    +2
    "Anatoly Serdyukov can be defendant in two more criminal cases "
    "Serdyukov as a witness will be interrogated
    Directly chapters from the book "Serdyukovsky Chronicles. I am a thief in law" (a fantastic novel, with elements of utopia in the part related to native justice)
  28. Asgard
    Asgard April 3 2013 09: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: Egoza
    - "All questions to my lawyer!" and this is the only phrase that you must say to all police questions "-


    Key phrase in the article and comments ....
    And here we all know this very well "lawyer".... here he recently gave a big press conference and said bluntly, -
    .. "Anatoly Eduardich carried out the reform in the Moscow region."
    .. "certain successes have been achieved in reforming the Armed Forces under Minister Serdyukov" ..
    .. "facts of theft, you know ?? I don’t know" ....
    ....... "Neither the investigation, nor the court, the more so, have personally made any claims to Serdyukov. He hasn’t worked anywhere yet. But, if he wants to find a job somewhere and will be taken, I don’t think that we should be hindered. A person has the right to work. We are not the 37th year. "

    http://forum-msk.org/material/power/9653074.html
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 3 2013 09: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: Asgard
      We are not the 37th year. "


      But how are they interrogated differently?

      Your Excellency, here you have stolen the nth number of billions, write in the line / left, right / that you do not know how you stole
      , thanks, you can go, call when the next case appears
      , All the best, be healthy.
      Hi Zhenechka, how’s the bracelet? Not bothered by a walk?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 3 2013 10: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      And we all know perfectly well this "lawyer" ....

      And I thought he had a Padva lawyer, and it’s like that.
      The people, how much are the services of this "lawyer", urgently needed with him any business can be played laughing
  29. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk April 3 2013 09: 49 New
    +1
    SERDYUKOV. In old Ukraine, Serdyuki are Cossacks from the guard of the chieftain or hetman.
    There, surrounded by hearts
    The noble hetman with the elders
    Galloped on a black horse.
    (A.S. Pushkin. Poltava)
    That’s where the legs grow from, it’s for us for gas problems that they made such a miracle of hetman. (I joke of course, but who knows.)
  30. fylhtqxxxs
    fylhtqxxxs April 3 2013 09: 53 New
    0
    Yes, this bastard is laughing at the plankton criticizing him, who we are and who he is, and the people behind him are much more serious than anyone can imagine ...

    .
  31. engineer74
    engineer74 April 3 2013 10: 03 New
    0
    Thanks to the author!
    But the tone of the article does not fit in with the facts stated in it .... sad
    IMHO
  32. engineer74
    engineer74 April 3 2013 10: 04 New
    0
    Thanks to the author!
    But the tone of the article does not fit in with the facts stated in it. sad n the article does not fit in with the facts stated in it, but sad n the article does not fit in with the facts stated in it, but sad n the article does not fit a little with the facts stated in it, but the tone of the article does not fit a little with the facts stated in it sad n the article does not fit in with the facts stated in it, but sad n the article does not fit in with the facts stated in it, but sad Mr. article does not fit a little with the facts stated in it ...
  33. Drappier
    Drappier April 3 2013 10: 05 New
    15
    All his life he served the country faithfully and as a result:
    1. garik404
      garik404 April 4 2013 09: 47 New
      +5
      I will continue the topic ...
  34. awg75
    awg75 April 3 2013 10: 05 New
    +6
    if Putin does not put this nits on the bunk, then I will not vote for him anymore ..... like many in Russia. I understand a lot, but the fact that stools are free is a spit in the face of all ordinary Russians!
  35. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 3 2013 10: 06 New
    12
    Who will put him in prison? He is a MONUMENT of Russian corruption
  36. someone
    someone April 3 2013 10: 06 New
    +1
    What are you, dear, this is not Tolyan !!!! Tolya is holy !!!! He was framed, in the most vile way !!! Spoiled his honest name !!!!
    Well, a person with such a kind face cannot do so much evil and not burn in place in the righteous flame of justice !!!!!
  37. medwed1976
    medwed1976 April 3 2013 10: 08 New
    0
    Loot is protected by law.
  38. medwed1976
    medwed1976 April 3 2013 10: 08 New
    +5
    Loot is protected by law.
  39. Shuriken
    Shuriken April 3 2013 10: 08 New
    +4
    Camraden! Very often on the website you hear: “What have you done to change something?”, “Start with yourself”, etc. So let's do it! Let's think about how to write an open letter to the president, in what media it will turn out publish it in order not to be in the same ranks with the liberals. Yes, I understand that the idea is almost hopeless, but that’s why we are RUSSIAN! And we’ll see whether Putin will answer as Makarevich or keep silent bashfully again. Asket, Kaa, Mart , yes, there’s a sea of ​​people with the art of a high syllable-connect! And if it works out, it will be ours, albeit a small one, but a victory!
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort April 3 2013 10: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: Shuriken
      And if it works out, it will be ours, albeit a small one, but a victory!

      The sentence is sound. As you know, water does not flow under a lying stone ... But as for the result: I’ll risk advising you to write a letter on paper softer so that the sun-like accidentally doesn’t scratch itself ...
  40. Vitali-46
    Vitali-46 April 3 2013 10: 13 New
    +2
    I don’t understand one thing, the prosecutor’s office has so many facts, is it really not enough to take this monster in one place and split it !!!!! What else is needed ????? Or are they waiting until all these people are dumped somewhere in prosperous ......... England.
  41. medwed1976
    medwed1976 April 3 2013 10: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: Shuriken
    Very often you hear on the website: “What have you done to change something?”, “Start with yourself”, etc. So let's do it! Let's think about how to write an open letter to the president, in which media it will be possible to publish it so as not to be in the same ranks with the liberals. Yes, I understand that the idea is almost hopeless, but that’s why we are RUSSIAN! And we’ll see whether Putin will answer as Makarevich or keep silent bashfully again. Asket, Kaa, Mart, yes there is a sea of ​​people with the art of a high syllable-connect! And if it works out, it will be ours, let m scarlet but victory!

    The political system of Russia is an autocracy limited to bribes. (Saying of the XIX century) - and this says it all back in the XIX century.
  42. lelyk72
    lelyk72 April 3 2013 10: 21 New
    +3
    The joke is not mine, recently read, but very successful: "And when our president realizes a simple thought: officials should never be removed for corruption. They must be hung up."
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr April 3 2013 17: 08 New
      +7
      YES, PEOPLE WERE IN OUR TIME, not that the current tribe ...

      WHO IS IT ABOUT? TELL!
  43. Fox
    Fox April 3 2013 10: 22 New
    +5
    so much indignation in the comments ... to see that the commentators did not encounter Russian crooked justice. I had the pleasure of talking in the 14 court with the judge and the defendants' lawyers for months ... the court lost, because. the judge "did not find an article in his computer" and the false witnesses and fictitious papers were scammed like relatives. and all in all, for 50 thousand rubles! after the appeal, I won the court (the hearing went to 7 !!!!! minutes.) article by the regional judges was needed in the computer. and you: Serdyukov ... he, and his lads didn’t throw fifty dollars into the UK, obviously. because I’m not surprised at anything.
  44. medwed1976
    medwed1976 April 3 2013 10: 32 New
    +4
    Quote: Fox
    so much indignation in the comments ... to see that the commentators did not encounter Russian crooked justice. I had the pleasure of talking in the 14 court with the judge and the defendants' lawyers for months ... the court lost, because. the judge "did not find an article in his computer" and the false witnesses and fictitious papers were scammed like relatives. and all in all, for 50 thousand rubles! after the appeal, I won the court (the hearing went to 7 !!!!! minutes.) article by the regional judges was needed in the computer. and you: Serdyukov ... he, and his lads didn’t throw fifty dollars into the UK, obviously. because I’m not surprised at anything.
  45. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 April 3 2013 10: 43 New
    +5
    He stole a sausage stick - 3 years in prison, stole billions, reduced the defense ability of an entire country, which has already been proven by a dozen criminal cases - and is still free !? After all, this is nothing but STATE CHANGE! Waiting for him to fall to the Britons?
  46. ksenofont7
    ksenofont7 April 3 2013 10: 43 New
    +4
    Stalin to the wheel Serdyukov to the wall
  47. amp
    amp April 3 2013 10: 49 New
    +4
    He is not even accused, he is a witness.
    It seems time for the people, as in the Middle Ages, to go to Red Square and demand its extradition to be torn to pieces by the crowd. I see no other way.
    But seriously, I would have gone to a liberal rally if it would have been announced that Serdyukov would be planted as the main slogan. Power is now setting itself up great. Serdyukov should be imprisoned until the liberals lured the people against him at their rallies.
  48. Delink
    Delink April 3 2013 10: 51 New
    +3
    We got these godfather, matchmaker, brother. Put in a real prison, an hour later admits to everything. And will give account numbers. And confesses to what he did not commit. There is not enough sniper rifle.
  49. kontrol
    kontrol April 3 2013 11: 09 New
    +1
    if killed one person is a crime, and if a million is politics.
  50. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler April 3 2013 11: 11 New
    +4
    It is very, very strange to hear the words of our president and prime minister about the fight against corruption. They released a bunch of anti-corruption acts that are generally binding on state and municipal employees (and these are all kinds of reports, statements about the income of employees and THEIR FAMILIES (which, by the way, directly contradicts the Constitution of the Russian Federation, because the employee is one thing, and his wife / children are completely different )), AND FINALLY WHERE? Here is Ms. Vasilyeva and Mr. Serdyukov. She is under house arrest, and he is a witness. WHERE IS THE BATTLE AGAINST CORRUPTION? Yes, I understand, now is not the 1937th year. However, in my opinion, this couple can be completely planted without trial, but we live in Russia and fight corruption with us ELECTORALLY: Lieutenant GAI officer, rank-and-file inspector of the Federal Tax Service or inspector of Rospotrebnadzor - of course they will put him in prison, but the minister and his girlfriend - of course NO.