Trench warfare. Theory

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Trench warfare. Theory
Destroyed armored vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Zaporozhye direction, summer 2023. Stuffed in front of the front line of our troops. Ukrainians use the same pictures with our armor near Avdiivka. This is what positional warfare looks like “from the ground.” Photo: Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation


In the early spring of 2022, on the territory of the former Ukraine, maneuver warfare gave way to positional warfare and the pace of troop advancement amounted to tens, sometimes hundreds of meters per day.



The exception to this was the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkov region, but the attack of the Ukrainian troops fell “into the void” - where there were almost no troops, except for small detachments of the Lugansk mobilized, the Russian Guard, repair units of the Russian Armed Forces, etc.

The counterattack of the Russian troops did not work, diversionary attacks aimed at preventing the complete destruction of those who came under attack turned out to be very bloody, but all this is a separate matter story, which someday, apparently, will be told.

What is important now is that the success of the Ukrainian Armed Forces turned out to be an exception - and precisely because they found a weak point that the Russian troops had.

Subsequently, neither the Armed Forces of Ukraine nor the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation found such weak points. Yes, Russian troops left Kherson, but not because they were driven out of there by force, but so as not to expose themselves to the risk of being left without communications in the rear.

Otherwise, the actions of both sides were reduced to bloody assaults and slow advances at a pace sometimes measured in meters per day and huge losses.

For a long time, for censorship reasons, it was simply impossible to call what was happening in the Donbass a “war of position.” There was not a single media outlet in which the comparison of the Northern Military District with the battles of the First World War would pass censorship.

Article by the author "Breakthrough Speed" with the revelation of the mechanism of positional deadlock, they were removed even from “neutral” sites that were not media outlets.

The only place where it was possible to publish it for a long time was LiveJournal, where it is still available in two parts (first и second).

The article reveals how a positional deadlock works, how its problem was resolved in the past, and what measures at the tactical level can be taken to get out of this deadlock.

Since then, however, a lot has changed.

Firstly, it became possible to “call a cat a cat” - to deny the similarities between the war in Ukraine and the First World War now, in 2024, is madness even for our home-grown censorship (and self-censorship).

A few days ago, a note by Sergei Valchenko was published on the online resource “Army Standard” "SVO and the revolution in military affairs", in fact, a review of the preface written by the former Chief of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces, Yu. N. Baluevsky, to the collection of military scientific articles “Algorithms of Fire and Steel,” published under the auspices of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST).

Quote from there:

“So, what “wonderful discoveries” did the Northern Military District reveal to the world in military affairs?

Firstly, modern highly mechanized armies, instead of highly maneuverable combat operations, suddenly switched to positional trench warfare, where the pace of advance on the battlefield looks snail’s pace even by the standards of the First World War.”

Firmly and clearly.

Well, better late than never. But now, when not only marginalized people like the author, but also the “near-officialdom” have recognized the existence of the problem, it is worth returning to it again.

Simply because, in addition to “firstly”, there is also secondly - today, almost two years after the beginning of the Northern Military District, we understand much more about the positional impasse than at the end of the First World War and than in the summer of 2022, when the author I wrote my own article that didn’t go anywhere.

Today we know so much about it that we can create a theory of this phenomenon.

You see, around 2026, Russian military thought will notice all this. Real, not marginal.

And by creating a theory, you can understand both how to get out of a dead end now and how to avoid getting into it in the future.

Moreover, it will be possible to understand how to effectively use this phenomenon in the future.

Thirdly, because that old article had a flaw - while explaining how a positional deadlock worked, it showed that during the First World War they got out of it using solutions at the operational level.

But due to the impossibility of using such solutions in the Northern Military District in 2022, the article proposed only tactical and technical measures for the Russian Army. They, these measures, are still correct today, but, alas, they are incomplete.

Today, with the accumulated knowledge of trench warfare, we can go much further in understanding this phenomenon.

Mechanism of the phenomenon


Let's start with repetition.

What is a positional deadlock?

Let us once again turn to the old article, where the definition is given (specifically to the first part). Quote:

We draw the final conclusion: a positional deadlock is a phenomenon in which the speed of breaking through the defense of the defending enemy is less than or equal to the speed of his transferring reserves to the attacked area and introducing them into battle in any way (taking a defense or counterattack, it doesn’t matter).

The Northern Military District has expanded a number of concepts, so now “bringing reserves into battle” can also be understood as a shock company drones, transferred to the breakthrough site and began to hit the advancing troops, for example, using FPV-drones, and long-range artillery deployed closer to the attacked area.

The constant influx of reinforcements does not allow the attacking side to break the resistance of the attacked one - the power of the latter’s fire does not fall, since its out-of-action tactical units (individual soldiers, armored vehicles, units, etc.) are immediately replaced with new ones, counterattacks begin before the advancing attacker gained a foothold on a new line, in extreme cases, a weakened and bloodless attacker who broke through the first lines of defense stumbles upon a new line of defense, which was occupied by fresh reinforcements while he was breaking through.

As a result, there is no breakthrough.

Opponents suffer losses, but the gaps in their battle formations are immediately filled.

As a consequence, it is impossible to break through the defense; in the best case for the attacker, the so-called “squeezing out” can take place, when the defender slowly retreats from one line of defense to another in an organized manner, which we sometimes see in the Northern Military District.

The key to understanding a positional deadlock is precisely this - it’s all about the defender’s ability to transfer his reserves to the attacked area in time.

What does it take for the attacker to break through the defenses, enter the operational space and move on to maneuver warfare?

From the definition of a positional deadlock, the condition for a breakthrough follows:

In order to break through the front, the speed of breakthrough of the defense by the attacking side, the speed of passage of the second echelons of the broken line of defense and the speed of their deployment into formations in which it is possible to attack in total must be higher than the speed of the defending enemy's transfer of reserves to the place of breakthrough and their deployment for entering into battle or battle.

It is easy to see that there are two solutions here - you need to either break through much faster, or slow down the transfer of enemy reserves. Or both together.

Previously mentioned article "Breakthrough Speed" it was precisely focused on measures to increase the speed of defense breakthrough, simply technical and tactical, and not operational.

Today it has become obvious that the most important of these measures is to prevent the enemy from transferring reserves to the attacked area - isolating the combat area.

The author's article is devoted to the creation of formations of the Ground Forces capable of performing such a task. “On the need to form artillery groups to isolate the combat area”.

Quote from there:

3. The most important thing is to prevent the enemy from maneuvering and prevent him from transferring reserves to the breakthrough site.

Then his troops in any case fight on their own, no one can come to their aid, no one is able to plug the breakthrough with new units, no one is able to restore the situation with a counterattack after the defending troops have used up all their reserves. Enemy units are destroyed one by one, and reinforcements are destroyed at the stage of their advance.

This is the isolation of the combat area.

In turn, a new-look brigade, described in the article, can help quickly break through enemy defensive formations isolated from reinforcements "Unmanned-centric" strike combined arms brigade of a new look based on the experience of the Northern Military District". It won’t all come down to it alone, a lot more is needed, the same high-performance means of clearing minefields, but the amount of high-precision weapons it just corresponds to the complexity of the task.

But, again, this is a particular solution - a decision that gives an effect at the tactical level.

We are interested in the operational level, and how we can not only fight this positional impasse, but also use it.

We need a theory.

To do this, you first need to understand how a positional deadlock develops and whether it is inevitable.

From maneuver warfare to trench warfare


The North Military District in Ukraine gave us a final understanding that the slide from maneuver warfare to positional warfare is more the norm than not.

Of course, there is no such understanding in official military thought, and even among military history enthusiasts it will not find supporters at first, but this is a fact.

And this is the most important conclusion that the SVO brings to operational art.

All wars in which trench warfare took place began as maneuver ones. The First World War, Korean, Iran-Iraq - during these wars there was a slide into positional warfare, but they all began as maneuver ones.

The Northern Military District also began as a maneuverable military unit, and with a fantastic rate of advance of the advancing troops.


How far the Russian troops advanced can be seen on the map, and some of the penetrations that took place are not here. Drawing life.ru

Subsequently, there was a slide towards a positional impasse, and it is precisely the mechanism of this slide that we need.

Once again we look at the situation when a deadlock has already been formed - any concentration of forces of the attacker is countered by a concentration of forces of the defender, completed on time, that is, the defender transfers troops at approximately the same time as the attacker, or a little faster.

Critical for this is the physical existence of communications along which troops are transferred, and their location on the ground - if one of the parties has a road network or something that replaces it (routes in open areas, even without roads, but with dense soil), it is essential poorer than the other, then there will be no deadlock; the side with a developed road network will easily create numerical, and therefore fire, superiority and move forward.

But if communications are developed more or less equally, and the forces that can be transferred and placed in the right place are also relatively the same, then we get the prerequisites for a positional deadlock.

From this we draw the first conclusion about the conditions for the transition from maneuver warfare to positional warfare - this occurs on terrain that has a state of communications suitable for positional warfare, that is, if the front “stands up,” it will be along a line along which opponents will be able to transfer their reserves with comparable speed. Such lines on the ground can be determined in advance - the road network changes slowly.

From this first conclusion we can draw another - If a positional deadlock has developed, then one of the solutions to get out of it, in addition to intensive actions to isolate the combat area, is the destruction of communications along which the enemy is moving troops.

We are talking primarily about the destruction of bridges and the destruction of railway tracks, and for roads, including dirt roads, about massive remote mining, with subsequent attacks on the forces and means carrying out mine clearance. On a large scale, such actions are apparently impracticable, but locally they can help, and a lot.

Having understood where the front will arise (there could potentially be a lot of such places), we must and can now understand how this will happen.

At the first stage of the war, when the attacker conducts maneuvering actions, the defender tries to parry his attacks with his reserves, but is systematically late - by the time he concentrated them, they had already been bypassed, there is a risk of the advancing enemy entering communications, his units being thrown out of important positions superior forces of the attacker, who was able to ensure numerical superiority here and now, etc.

As a result, the defender retreats, breaks contact with the attacker, restraining him in battles with forces specially allocated for this purpose, and the bulk is withdrawn to where it has enough time to gain a foothold, and if the defender has reserves, and communications allow them to maneuver along the line front, and the attacker does not have a radical qualitative superiority that allows him to simply demolish the opposing enemy, regardless of any other factors, then the transformation of the war into a positional one becomes very likely or even inevitable.

Thus, we see how a slide into a dead end occurs - this occurs when the speed with which the defender withdraws his troops to a new line of defense turns out to be sufficient to prevent the attacker from defeating them in the direction of his main attacks, or destroying them by encircling and cut off from their communications, and also sufficient to gain a foothold on a new defensive line, communications on which allow combat operations to turn into positional ones.

What else is important in trench warfare?

Impossibility of bypass.

The defense must be impossible to bypass. If there are weak spots in the enemy’s defense, then the attacker, having managed in one way or another to gain time in the concentration of troops, will carry out a flank breakthrough, occupy the defender’s communications and force him to flee or encircle him, creating a serious gap in his positions, the war will move into the maneuver stage.


Thus, in addition to the terrain, communications on which will lead to approximately equality of the parties in the maneuver of reserves, in addition to the fact that the defending side must break away from the enemy pressing on it and have time to gain a foothold in this territory, it is also necessary that the density of its troops in defense excludes the attacker from bypassing them. In the second part of “Breakthrough Speed” this is shown in relation to the battles in Donbass.

And, if you carefully recall military history, then in those cases when a positional deadlock developed, bypassing was truly impossible.

In light of all of the above, the task of the attacker comes down to preventing a positional war from developing - he must conduct his offensive in such a way that the defender simply does not have time to reach that zone rich in communications, where by connecting his troops, he could reduce the maneuver war to positional.

This is where we come to the concept of tempo of operations.

The concept of tempo is critical to understanding how to avoid slipping from maneuver warfare to positional warfare.

Pace of operations


Tempo is not described in the open literature and may be confused with time. But this is not the time.

The Soviet “Concise Dictionary of Operational-Tactical and General Military Terms” (M., 1958) defines tempo as:

the average daily advance of troops in an offensive operation, one of the indicators of its scope. During the First World War 1914–1918. That. were 5–8 km per day. That. Soviet troops during the Great Patriotic War reached 30–50 km.

But this is an error at the level of logic: the distance traveled in a given time is speed, this is so in principle, and not in some sphere of human activity.

The most famous popularizer of “Temp” in Russian, M. Galaktionov, in his book “Paris, 1914 (Temp of Operations)” does not give a definition.

There is complete confusion in American regulations regarding tempo. In the Field manual FM 100-5 Operations, dedicated to planning operations, tempo and the need to maintain it are mentioned, but vaguely and without wording that would allow this tempo to be measured. Here's what it roughly says:

Tempo – the speed of military operations; controlling or varying this speed is essential to maintaining initiative.

And further in the same spirit.

That is, there is no definition. Meanwhile, tempo is the most important property of an offensive operation.

For an analogy, in chess this is called the phrase “win a move.” When two opponents play combinations, both strive to ensure that his combination requires fewer moves than the opponent’s counter-combination. For this they sacrifice pieces, sometimes the queen, sometimes more than one piece. The superiority obtained in this way in the stock of moves necessary for victory is superiority in tempo, a gain in tempo.

One player needs 3 moves to checkmate, and the only combination of moves for another that can disrupt this plan contains four moves. And this is a defeat.

That's roughly what a gain in tempo is.

The closest to reality definition of the pace of operations is given, oddly enough, by American firefighters, and specifically by the National Wildfire Coordinating Group (NWCG). This is how the pace of operations (in their understanding - firefighting, to combat rapidly spreading landscape fires) is determined by this organization:

Operational tempo is the speed and intensity of our actions relative to the speed and intensity of unfolding events in the operational environment.

Tempo, then, is speed versus speed, the degree of advance of those events that oppose the operation. Winning moves, in chess terms.

Let us give a final definition of war.

The tempo in an offensive operation is the amount of time that is currently available to carry out the operational plan, in comparison with the time needed by the enemy to disrupt the implementation of this operational plan, starting from a given point in time.

With this formulation, the tempo will be measured in units of time (hours, days, etc.) and will have a sign - a positive tempo value means that we have time to spare and we are ahead of the enemy during the operation, a negative one means that we are not keeping up with enemy.

For example, the available forces and their relationship with the enemy forces, the location of the enemy troops relative to ours, the road network and terrain conditions allow us to complete the operation plan in 20 days, while the enemy needs 25 days to take the necessary countermeasures.

This means superiority in the pace of 5 days.

And the enemy has a lack of tempo in the same 5 days, it must be shown with a negative sign: “-5”.

It is clear that in war anything can happen - from errors in calculating this very tempo, to beautiful and unexpected moves by the enemy, which reduce the superiority in tempo to zero or even turn it in favor of the enemy.

But the idea itself is clear.

Let us formulate a condition to prevent the war from turning into a positional one - it is necessary to maintain a tempo of operations that would not give the enemy time sufficient to form a stable defense.

At first glance, this is a banality, because in theory all military personnel try to maintain a high speed of attack, all operations are planned with the intention of disrupting the enemy’s actions, superior commanders always require subordinates to maintain initiatives, etc. However, in reality this is not entirely true.

The roar of a senior boss on the radio demanding to “go faster” is one thing; the fact that the operations department has an algorithm that allows us to continuously monitor the pace and see who is ahead – us or the enemy – is another thing. And act on this basis. And not only at my headquarters, but everywhere - the situation is the same for everyone.

This gives rise to a different level of understanding of what is happening at all levels of the military machine: from the division and above, and this level of understanding becomes the same. Understanding becomes systemic.

A theoretical rationale emerges for taking this new level of understanding and planning to a new level.

For example, according to calculations, our superiority in pace will be lost on the 10th day of the operation, no matter what we do, with the required time to complete the plan being 20 days.
Here, firstly, it is worth noting that this pace will need to be taken into account, since it exists as a concept, and planning is built around it. Which now, as the SVO shows us, is not guaranteed.

Further, it may follow from this that the operation needs to be canceled, or perhaps that it is necessary to slow down the enemy in order to regain momentum not by intensifying one’s actions, but by preventing the enemy from acting.

This understanding of the domestic military school has not been fully formed.

Here, among our ground commanders, there is a sharp need to recognize aviation operational or even strategic significance - without it, in a non-nuclear war, it is impossible to paralyze the maneuver of an enemy with whom you are not in combat contact.

Now Russian army generals have huge problems understanding what aviation is needed for in principle; worse than that, they only have an understanding of why the fleet is needed, but at the same time, for historical reasons, they were able to achieve control over both aviation and fleet. We see the result now in Ukraine, where the war occurs only on the front line and at the time of missile strikes, and the Ukrainian state, as a mechanism for waging war, functions quite successfully, collects reinforcements, albeit by force, but delivers them to the front, uses combat aircraft, and repairs Tanks in factories, etc. And the Russian command is trying in vain to inflict damage on this system with targeted “pin pricks” of missile strikes, not wanting to understand that this is impossible, not having the motivation to study, for example, the American experience of strategic bombing and be puzzled by the neutralization of Ukrainian air defense.

The presence of a theory of tempo, which requires effective measures to remotely counter enemy operations, will instill this motivation even in military school, forming not only the understanding that fighting without aviation is very difficult, but also how exactly this “hard” looks on the map.

But the most important thing is that the theoretically based concept of tempo, the use of operational planning algorithms built around this concept, allows, with correct assessment, to predict the moment when a maneuver war will turn into a positional war, and to prevent this in advance by any means.

Gaining Pace


In a positional war, the tempo for both sides is zero - troops are already stationed on the line of contact, reserves are transferred at approximately equal speed. We send a battalion near Avdeevka, they do the same, we have one more, and they have one more. At the same speed. And so on endlessly.


An extremely symbolic diagram from the Ukrainian media, very clearly symbolizing trench warfare

“People who are not in the know” don’t understand this, but in a situation of such equilibrium, you can put even millions of people behind a village - as long as there are millions of them. Moreover, losing millions of soldiers, nothing can be achieved.


The small scale of tasks solved by troops in battles should not deceive anyone - losses in such operations can be considerable.

To bring the situation out of this balance, you need to gain momentum.

For example, our reserves are transferred faster than theirs, and are brought into battle more quickly, and break through the defenses more quickly.

And, as already mentioned above, this can be achieved both by accelerating the actions of one’s troops and by measures to slow down the actions of enemy troops, in the right case - both.

What special cases of winning tempo have happened in history?

For example, advance in the speed of maneuver of troops. If we proceed from the fact that the speed of maneuver of reserves on both sides is approximately equal, then we can try to sharply increase it for ourselves.

Let's give a historical example.

At the end of 1988, during the Iran-Iraq War, Iran carried out a successful offensive in the north of the theater of war, in Iraqi Kurdistan. In an effort to turn the tide of the war, the Iraqi command decided to mislead the Iranian command, creating the impression that it was planning a counter-offensive in the northern part of the theater of war, and then, having forestalled the enemy in maneuvering troops and concentrating them, strike in the south, on the Faw Peninsula , previously occupied by Iranian troops.

To speed things up, let's quote Wikipedia:

“After a lengthy meeting with the army leadership, Saddam Hussein decided to strike in the direction of the Faw Peninsula, since the mountainous landscape of Iraqi Kurdistan was unsuitable for tank warfare. In order to divert the enemy's attention, Iraq transferred reinforcements to Kurdistan, Defense Minister Adnan Khairallah personally visited positions in Kurdistan.

Meanwhile, under the cover of darkness and radio silence, Iraq managed to concentrate 100 soldiers in the Faw area, consisting of 000 armored vehicles (including 2 tanks) and 500 artillery pieces. Iran was only able to field 1 soldiers, 200 tanks and 1 guns. It was decided to launch the offensive on the first day of the holy month of Ramadan, simultaneously with the change of soldiers who were going on vacation.

The operation, called “Ramadan al-Mubarak” (from Arabic - “holy Ramadan”), began at 4:30 am on April 17, 1988. With the support of artillery and aviation, Iraqi troops broke through the Iranian defenses. By order of the commander of the operation, General Ayad Fayid al-Rawi, chemical munitions were dropped on Iranian positions, but due to a change in wind direction, Iraqi soldiers came under attack, about 200 of whom died. Combat swimmers landed in the Iranian rear, supported by fire from landing ships.

On April 18, the Fao Peninsula was liberated. The Iranians lost 5 killed and 000 captured compared to Iraq's 10 killed. Iraq also captured a large number of guns and armored vehicles."

What can we understand from this?

Nothing if you don't know that:

1. The Iraqis secretly and in advance mobilized a huge amount of rolling stock in order to transfer troops to the original areas faster than the Iranians could transfer their reserves there. Tractor units with heavy-duty semi-trailers suitable for transporting tanks alone were mobilized for this operation, 1 units were mobilized.

That is, having created powerful transport capabilities and effectively convinced the enemy that the offensive would be in the north, Iraq gained momentum - by the time the Iraqi columns went to Faw, it was impossible to get ahead of them - Iran simply would not have been able to transfer troops in the right direction quantity, since I had not prepared for this in advance.

2. The Iraqis effectively paralyzed the control of Iranian troops with the help of their special forces. They didn't use them as assault infantry, no. They used them for their intended purpose.

Disruption of enemy command and control is critical to gaining momentum, since the entire time that the defender is without control and without information about the situation, he does not do what is necessary to disrupt the plans of the attacker. The tempo gain at this stage is very high, which is why command and control of the enemy in any military operation should always be one of the main goals.

3. The Iraqis used chemical weapons for a reason, but exactly for what they were invented in the First World War - to quickly break through defensive lines without destroying them and wasting time. And this also gave a gain in pace.

Without all these measures, the Iranians would most likely have managed to transfer reserves to the site of the Iraqi offensive and, albeit with the loss of territory, somehow stabilize the situation. But they didn't have time.

Subsequently, Iraq, having won a victory without serious losses and being able to immediately build on the success, began a series of offensive operations under the general code name “Tawalkana ala Allah” (“We trust in God”), which brought Iran out of the war.

The characteristic features of this offensive were, firstly, the continued advance of Iraq in the concentration of troops over Iran, due to pre-prepared transport resources, and secondly, the extensive use of chemical weapons in reserves at the stage of their advance, about which there is little at all in Russian sources read, and yet such interest in isolating the combat area is as instructive as it is revealing. Iranian troops deployed for counterattacks fell under chemical “curtains” and, lacking sufficient means of protection against weapons of mass destruction, did not carry out the tasks assigned to them.

Iraq won.

To close the question, now the same can be done through the skillful use of aviation, other means to suppress enemy air defenses and high-precision weapons.

Such actions require superior command - the attacker's command must be of higher quality than that of the defender, intelligence must work better, the absolute imperative is to prevent information about the real plan of the operation from reaching the enemy.

Without achieving the said superiority, achieving quantitative superiority is required. Then the superiority in tempo becomes local - it exists in some sectors of the front, and not in others. The enemy simply does not have the number of troops he needs.

An example of such an operation is the “Brusilovsky breakthrough” - the number of places in which the attacker attacked exceeded the enemy’s ability to fend off these attacks with reserves - he simply did not have so many of them in this direction. The result is advancement along the entire front.


But, firstly, one must understand that for such actions numerical superiority is necessary, and secondly, one must realize that such victories are extremely bloody. What is logical is that by relying on the “mass of people” instead of intellectual superiority, no other result can be achieved. Well, here’s how someone’s brain works, after all, the principle “the people and the army are one” has not been canceled. How the people think is how they fight.

It is worth highlighting, however, in these examples the main idea that can be implemented at the operational level in other ways - we are talking about creating the so-called “uncompensated weakness” in the defender - a condition when, for one reason or another, he cannot fend off an attack with anything.

The Iraqis did this due to their superiority in maneuver; Brusilov won the pace due to the mass of troops.

This concept doesn't always apply to winning tempo, but it's also worth keeping in mind.


Another case of achieving an advantage in tempo is its implementation through achieving an overwhelming qualitative superiority of one’s troops over the enemy (not to be confused with how the Iraqis temporarily achieved a qualitative superiority in control, this is different).

Here we need examples from wars in which there was no positional deadlock. The most striking example is the American invasion of Iraq.

One of many examples:

During the Second Iraq War, there was an incident when one company (10 Abrams tanks and 4 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles) repelled a counterattack by the 10th Iraqi Brigade, which was trying to regain control of the bridge over the Euphrates (Peach section - objective "Peach" ).

The battle lasted from 3 am to 6 am. American tanks fired at what were visible through thermal imaging sights as small luminous dots. These were Iraqi counterattack tanks and infantry fighting vehicles that could not fire effectively at American tanks. The battle was won due to the greater range of target detection at night and the greater effective firing range of the Americans.

Link to the selection.

One company simply takes and shoots a tank brigade without losses, that’s all. To understand the issue - in the battle described in the link, it was decided who would enter Baghdad first - units of the 3rd Infantry Division of the US Army or a group of Republican Guard troops trying... to pick up the pace after the breakthrough of American columns into the Iraqi rear. In fact, it was decided who would win the war.

Alexey Isaev wrote about these events in detail, but there are no details of this battle, only that the attack was suicidal.

Links are especially recommended for adherents of the theory that the Iraqi generals were bought and they handed over the country to the Americans.

These days ten years ago. Part one.
These days ten years ago. Part two.

Achieving overwhelming qualitative superiority, in principle, beats everything - you can simply go forward and destroy everything in your path, and not suffer losses. But to do this, you need to work systematically and consistently to achieve such superiority, and if you instead invest all your energy in PR, propaganda, grand parades and tank biathlons, then you may be unpleasantly surprised.

The Americans, by the way, expected something similar to their reprisal against Iraq in 2003 from the Russian Army in Ukraine, which is why they were initially pessimistic about the prospects of the Kyiv regime. After all, we had enough time for military construction, and enough money was spent, industry and technology were there, the initiative was on our side, we had combat experience in Syria. But it turned out differently.

With the achieved qualitative superiority, the pace is won “in an orderly manner” - due to the fact that any attempt by the enemy to resist ends with his complete destruction - and so the Iraqis took the defile at Karbala first, and transferred their reserves to the “Peach” target on time. But with achieved qualitative superiority, the time that a qualitatively inferior enemy needs to disrupt the operation of a superior enemy is equal to infinity...

Of certain interest are measures to slow down the enemy’s actions and prevent his maneuver at the operational level. As mentioned above, if there is no way to speed up yourself, then you need to slow down the enemy, this also helps to gain momentum.

The most striking example of aviation actions to prevent the maneuver of ground troops at the operational level is the bombing of Dresden. For propaganda purposes in our country, since the Cold War, this action has been presented as a war crime. But let's look at the map - Dresden was the most important communications hub on the left flank of the Red Army in its attack on Berlin.

The map of damage to the city shows that the allies, who did not have high-precision weapons to reliably destroy the bridges, simply turned the entire part of the city adjacent to them into rubble. And they turned it well, according to eyewitnesses, the city was impassable even for foot troops, and on the Soviet map of the Berlin operation it is clear that the German troops, delivering a counterattack to the 2nd Polish and 52nd Soviet armies on the flank, had to turn around to the east of the designated area . And in general, for the 4th German Tank Army, the loss of the most important transport hub, unoccupied by the enemy, turned out to be useless.


The Berlin operation, Dresden is in the very south, south of the Soviet offensive line, and its significance is obvious, even if you don’t see anything other than this map.

The literature describes how many difficulties the German counterattack caused the troops of the 1st Ukrainian Front, and one can only guess what would have happened if Dresden had remained intact as a communications hub.

In Western history, by the way, this bombing is presented as help to the advancing Red Army. And she really helped, no matter what anyone thought.

Moreover, the fact that the entire city was destroyed is simply not true.


Bombing of Dresden: red sectors - zone of continuous capital development, black - industry, green - residential areas. The damage caused by the bombing is shown in purple. The propaganda legend about a completely destroyed city, where civilians were deliberately exterminated, does not stand up to criticism. Arthur "Bomber" Harris did nothing wrong. Photo: Imperial war museum, UK

This example should not be seen as a call to destroy cities, but as a cry to destroy communications, not necessarily in cities.

Positional deadlock as a tool


However, we cannot ignore the positive side of the theoretical awareness of a positional deadlock and how and why it is formed.

For Russia, with its quantitative balance of forces with NATO, as well as with other potential adversaries, the issue of conducting large-scale combat operations on the ground against an enemy many times superior in strength may turn out to be relevant.

Naturally, this does not mean that successful offensive operations cannot be carried out against such an enemy - it is possible and necessary, at a minimum, to avoid fighting on one’s own territory.

But, as the example of the same Wehrmacht, which maintained a tactical advantage on the battlefield over most of its opponents almost until the very end, shows, sooner or later the resources of the stronger side take their toll.

In such conditions, reducing the war to a positional war, on lines where a breakthrough for an enemy who does not know the theory of positional warfare will be impossible after the initial depletion of his forces in the phase of maneuver warfare, may turn out to be a completely logical scenario, allowing one to reduce the enemy’s numerical and resource advantage to zero.

A series of quick breakthroughs to gain tempo, identifying the lines at which the state of communications allows the war to be reduced to a positional one, occupying these lines and defending them until the enemy bleeds to death, recapturing one crater in the ground after another, can turn out to be a saving scenario. .

And you can and should be prepared for such actions. The Russian Army showed something similar in the summer of 2023 in Ukraine. Having compacted its defensive lines and having rock roads in the rear, the army managed to hold back the onslaught of units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which in general had approximately a two-fold superiority in personnel, first-class communications, NATO intelligence and disproportionately better controlled artillery, which also had approximately a 30% superiority in effective firing range, with a simultaneous advantage in accuracy, as well as organizational superiority in the field of drones (this continues to this day).

In the actions of the Russian Army as a whole, an understanding of the mechanism of trench warfare is not yet visible, but the defense of the summer of 2023 was quite consciously conceived exactly as it turned out.

The litmus test for how much the Russian generals understand what is happening will be 2024.

If the army continues to stand on the defensive, carrying out individual offensives limited in scale, as now in Avdiivka or near Krynki, then the generals understand everything.

If in 2024 there is an attempt to attack with large forces without first completely reorganizing the RF Armed Forces and correcting such chronic problems as the inability to isolate the combat area or conduct air offensive operations with the suppression of the air defense of the theater of operations, then they do not understand, and the defense of 2023 was just a separate successful idea, and nothing more.

We will see everything this year, and many of us will take part.

The nature of the article and the supervision of domestic media do not make it possible to analyze the progress of the Northern Military District from the point of view of operational planning - and this despite the fact that a huge mass of documents, secret ones at that, in which tasks were set for our troops, later fell into the hands of the Ukrainian side and were made public .

Nevertheless, one of the principles of Soviet and later Russian censorship is that the awareness of Russian citizens should not be related to what the enemy knows, and even if combat orders for Russian units and formations can be downloaded from the Internet, write about them in the Russian media it is forbidden.

But that doesn't matter now.

Precisely because readers armed with theoretical knowledge can analyze everything themselves. The value of theory, among other things, lies in this.

In the future, the theory of positional warfare will apparently become one of the important contributions of the SVO to the domestic operational art.

There are still many wars ahead, and we will need operational art.
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  1. +8
    14 February 2024 05: 20
    In the First WW, there was a positional deadlock and the generals did not know what to do next, after the troops settled in the trenches, they destroyed the tanks, showing all the General Staffs in which direction in this war they should move. In today's Northern Military District, it seems that drones are taking on the role of tanks
    1. +2
      14 February 2024 13: 51
      The author of the article and the authors of the comments are stuck in the last century, and many others in our country... Once again, SVO is an example of how it shouldn't be. The Russian Armed Forces have everything necessary, mainly what is needed to wage a modern war. But these advanced tools are not used or developed, and the conditions for their implementation have not been created, although they could. Instead, there is a confused swaying from side to side. There is a concentration of a huge amount of weapons, both new and old, and all this is used in the context of the 2nd World War. A cluster of useless weapons in the spirit of terrorism is developing, on both sides. What tactics do our units in the Northern Military District follow? Who invented it? Who developed it, analyzed it and approved it? Nobody! There are no new tactics.
      They are fighting according to the patterns of the Soviet Army in the worst performance... A mess and a complete bacchanalia...
      Read the article “Modern network-centric warfare and military operation in Ukraine” on VO to get started. The author of this chaotic nonsense from the past should read the same. There are at least some rational grains there.
      1. -1
        14 February 2024 23: 01
        They are fighting according to the patterns of the Soviet Army in the worst performance... A mess and a complete bacchanalia...

        Let me guess: you don’t have any property subject to confiscation?
        Read the article “Modern network-centric warfare and military operation in Ukraine” on VO to get started. The author of this chaotic nonsense from the past should read the same. There are at least some rational grains there.

        The author should go to Donbass instead of Kirkorov, let him tell the soldiers about the meaning of trench warfare, but always without security.
      2. +1
        15 February 2024 01: 15
        The author of the article and authors of comments

        Your comment was only the second... laughing And he was the answer to #1.

        The Russian Armed Forces have everything necessary, mainly what is needed to wage a modern war.

        The truth is yours.

        Instead, there is a confused swaying from side to side.

        Perhaps for this we should “thank” the luminary of the General Staff’s thought, Gerasimov? Although, and this is most likely true, he is not the only one behind all these hesitations.
        1. +2
          15 February 2024 07: 05
          Many thanks to the author for the article and to the VO editors for publishing such articles!
          The author turned out to be right in many ways, along with Klimov and Strelkov. It’s a pity that a monstrous price is paid for the unsupported ambitions of generals and dying people.
        2. +1
          15 February 2024 08: 59
          My comment was posted second, but it is not the second in time, and I read all the comments before my time... You will not make a detective. Joke.
    2. +12
      14 February 2024 17: 58
      The Germans coped well without tanks. It's not about tanks. And it's not about drones. The Russian offensive was stopped altogether by the highmars. The key here is counter-battery warfare and speed of reconnaissance and target designation. Modern artillery and MLRS can control a circle with a radius of 50-70 km. All we need is modern shells and efficient reconnaissance and communications work. Minimum reaction time. And not until 15 fat-assed bosses give the go-ahead to open fire from the only long-range self-propelled gun. We need radar, satellites, AWACS. modern communication systems and trained people. And we organized all tank biathlons. It might as well have been a horse race. The same show.
      1. +6
        14 February 2024 21: 10
        And we organized all tank biathlons.

        Not only that, but also naval parades in the St. Petersburg Puddle.
      2. 0
        15 February 2024 05: 20
        Quote: Single-n
        The Russian offensive was stopped altogether by the highmars.

        And there weren’t so many of these highmars...
        How many of them are needed to break out of a positional deadlock?
        There is no way out for us...
        In the sense that time is running out.
      3. +1
        15 February 2024 13: 08
        The article describes everything correctly, but nothing new! Manstein wrote about the pace of the offensive in his memoirs. The article does not touch on one important point that you pointed out: firepower. The pace of the offensive greatly depends on the speed of destruction of the enemy am Because of the UAV, the front line is almost transparent, the troops turn around and go on the attack, so to speak, in full view of the enemy! Modern fire control systems and the weapons themselves make it possible to destroy targets with minimal ammunition costs. One FPV drone minus one tank, one guided missile, minus one tank, from the third shot, i.e. About a minute after the opening of fire, the shells begin to target the enemy with varying effectiveness, which increases sharply due to cassettes, etc.! belay
        In order to unwind a tank battalion, today an artillery brigade is not needed; if not a battery, then an artillery battalion is quite enough! Therefore, what kind of breakthroughs can we talk about without suppressing enemy artillery?
        It is necessary to either remove the UAV from the sky, or shut up the artillery force (physically destroy it, leave it without shells, disrupt communications), without this there is no way to concentrate the required force of the troops! In principle, aviation is capable of coping with artillery, but as stated in the article, the Aerospace Forces today are of little use for modern warfare!
        Hence the positional deadlock, while everything written in the article is quite relevant and actually works.

        I liked the article, the author would also like to highlight the issue of firepower and its influence on this very positional impasse Yes
    3. +3
      14 February 2024 20: 28
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      In the First WW, there was a positional deadlock and the generals did not know what to do next, after the troops settled in the trenches and destroyed the tanks
      Nothing like that, tanks didn’t solve anything in the First World War. Groups of attack aircraft overcame the trench impasse.
      1. 0
        15 February 2024 04: 18
        Quote: bk0010
        Nothing like that, tanks didn’t solve anything in the First World War

        Tanks revived the war and began to break through the front with fewer losses. Without tanks, storming the enemy's forts resulted in terrible casualties. Even for groups of stormtroopers
    4. +1
      15 February 2024 19: 48
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      In the First WW, there was a positional deadlock and the generals did not know what to do next, after the troops settled in the trenches, they destroyed the tanks, showing all the General Staffs in which direction in this war they should move. In today's Northern Military District, it seems that drones are taking on the role of tanks

      In general, you are right, but in 1918 the Germans made an operational breakthrough with the help of assault groups and, in doing so, suffered many times fewer losses than the Entente troops (who were defending, however), but this is the exception that confirms the rule.
  2. +4
    14 February 2024 05: 23
    There are still many wars ahead, and we will need operational art.
    Study the defeat of the Kwantung Army, or the capture of Köninsberg by Marshal Vasilevsky....
    1. -8
      14 February 2024 06: 32
      But we only have to fight against opponents who already know that they are doomed to defeat.
  3. +14
    14 February 2024 05: 44
    Coolest article. Very interesting and important. It is people like the author, in my opinion, who should be appointed to leading positions in the Ministry of Defense (I write without any irony). There are, of course, very controversial issues that require further consideration. I would like to ask one question right away.
    The author scolds Russian generals who did not understand the strategic importance of aviation. Scolding our current generals is, of course, the right thing to do, but how technically would the Russian Air Force be able to solve the problem of suppressing air defense and impeding enemy maneuver, based on their real capabilities as of 24.02.22 and from the original absurd political introduction regarding the tasks of the operation and those goals that can be achieved? hit? In my opinion, this was simply impossible to do.
    How does the author see the solution to the problem?
    1. +6
      14 February 2024 07: 08
      Quote: Belisarius
      and need to be appointed to senior positions in the Ministry of Defense

      There is such a unit, the operational department of the General Staff.
      Quote: Belisarius
      Scolding our current generals is, of course, the right thing to do, but how technically could the Russian Air Force solve the task of suppressing air defense and impeding enemy maneuver, based on their real capabilities as of 24.02.22/XNUMX/XNUMX

      The author gives just the answer to this:
      The Americans, by the way, expected something similar to their reprisal against Iraq in 2003 from the Russian Army in Ukraine, which is why they were initially pessimistic about the prospects of the Kyiv regime. After all, we had enough time for military construction, and enough money was spent, there was industry and technology, the initiative was on our side, we had combat experience in Syria. But it turned out differently.

      Quote: Belisarius
      and from the original absurd political introduction regarding the objectives of the operation

      No comment here request
    2. +12
      14 February 2024 09: 30
      You are right, the Author is worthy, but it is better for him not to answer the question you asked, since the “political introductory” is now such that you can easily join Strelkov/Girkin for an answer. hi
    3. +7
      14 February 2024 09: 39
      I would like to add. If in the wars of the past, it was possible to create accumulations of troops and materials in one’s rear, now American satellites immediately transmit this information to the enemy. In addition, satellites see everything in different spectra, making it almost impossible to hide. And before, of course, there were spies, but with good camouflage it was possible to mislead the enemy.
      1. +3
        14 February 2024 13: 48
        Now they are talking about the coming epidemic "x"... Why not announce the impending fall of all satellites as a result of an incomprehensible terrorist attack.
    4. +13
      14 February 2024 09: 46
      Here the question is broader... Let's consider - is it even possible in today's realities?

      All authors who have written works on strategy emphasize that the offensive should be carried out against the enemy’s far flank, with further access to his communications. An attack against the near flank is a grave mistake, because the enemy will always have time to parry it by bringing up reserves. But over the entire two years of the Northern Military District, both sides have been doing exactly this, trying to advance in completely obvious directions. Well, why did the Ukrovermacht try to reach the sea in the summer? After all, such an attempt directly begged for a classic response, counterattacks on the foundations of the breakthrough from both sides. With all the consequences... For us, it would seem obvious that there is no need to storm fortified areas head-on; an attack from the north from Belgorod, or even more so, from Belarus would be clearly more effective. But no?

      The offensive must have clear, decisive goals. That is, his success
      should lead either to the complete defeat of one of the groups, or
      to occupy some important strategic point. Let's be honest -
      Well, what is strategic in the liberation of Avdeevka or Artyomovsk?
      For all their importance, yes, by and large, nothing. Ukrovermacht simply
      will go to another city. Their loss does not fatally affect their communications
      nor on the general coherence of the rear and position.. Isn’t that so? And in general -
      offensive in a heavily urbanized area, where at every step
      something to grab onto is clearly not a good idea.

      It is not clear what to do with large cities. Well, here's how to order an assault
      Kharkiv? Dnepropetrovsk? Nikolaev? Zaporozhye? After all, they won’t surrender without a fight,
      and there are hundreds of thousands of civilians... There is not enough strength to block them, to get around them -
      It’s also problematic, there are all the local communications nodes there.. And? This means they don't
      may be the target of an offensive, because it will stupidly run into them..

      An offensive can only be carried out with a multiple superiority of forces at a given
      plot. Otherwise, there will be nothing to provide for the flanks if the breakthrough is successful. And superiority
      of similar scale - there is not a single side, in terms of the size and equipment of the army
      more or less equal. Yes - we are stronger in many aspects, but we need infantry!
      You can’t capture a city with Iskanders.. But here there are definitely no more of us..

      An offensive implies, first of all, a disruption of communications. Achilles' heel
      We all know about Ukraine - these are posts across the Dnieper. Destroy at least half of them -
      and that’s it, the Uhrovermacht’s supply will simply collapse. But - as we see, they are intact
      second year. They don't even try to bring them down. And then - the meaning of the offensive operation,
      if the enemy retains all possibilities of both maneuver and supply?

      In general, there are many pages of questions here; you can’t get rid of them with just one post. But the general
      feeling - reduction to trench warfare is a conscious choice, at least
      our leadership. Because it does nothing to transform the war into a maneuver one
      phase. Why - we can only guess.. There are probably good reasons for this -
      Well, not only have we read works on strategy, the generals are definitely aware of what’s there
      written? Perhaps someday we will learn about these reasons. But not now for sure.


      PS Damn crooked message editor!!!
      1. 0
        14 February 2024 20: 28
        Yes, everything is simply explained - we have not enough forces gathered for a breakthrough and offensive. Secondly, there is also a shortage of high-precision weapons, which is why the bridges are standing; getting into the bridge turned out to be a big problem for us. For example, the bridge in Zatoka was attacked with three Calibers, only one was almost hit and it only bent the rails, which were replaced within a day and the bridge is functioning again.
        I think we need to extinguish the enemy’s power supply, Caliber must get into the boiler shop of the power plant, but without boilers the station is dead for a long time, and our weirdos are hitting the transformers, which are easily replaced.
        1. +3
          14 February 2024 22: 51
          I don’t understand why TV and Internet centers in Ukraine weren’t destroyed in two years. If at the beginning many people there supported Russia, now as a result of daily propaganda there are fewer of them.
          1. 0
            14 February 2024 23: 04
            If at the beginning many people there supported Russia, now as a result of daily propaganda there are fewer of them.

            Do you mean Kadyrov's propaganda of correct values?
          2. +2
            14 February 2024 23: 58
            Quote: akendram
            I don’t understand why TV and Internet centers in Ukraine haven’t been destroyed in two years.

            This is one of those taboos that cannot be broken. In general, an excellent question, rarely anyone pays attention to it. Everyone talks about communications and bridges (which is of course true), but television towers are an even more priority goal. Actually, along with political leadership, this should be goal number 1.
      2. +6
        14 February 2024 22: 41
        Quote: paul3390
        After all, such an attempt directly begged for a classic response, counterattacks on the foundations of the breakthrough from both sides. With all the consequences... For us, it would seem obvious that there is no need to storm fortified areas head-on; an attack from the north from Belgorod, or even more so, from Belarus would be clearly more effective. But no?

        Everything is correct and beautifully written. In short, from a military point of view, what both opponents are doing is pure madness. Moreover, the madness is criminal - in fact, they exterminate their people (the overwhelming majority are Russian) without any positive goals at all. Positive goals for their states, not for themselves personally, of course.
        But this is actually what I wrote about, the respected author correctly assesses military mistakes and command mistakes in military development, but generals act based on the decisions of the leadership. Without assessing the decision of this leadership, it is simply wrong to criticize only the generals (although this does not relieve them of responsibility). Analogies with the Iran-Iraq War are not entirely correct; there was a war there, and here there is “NWO”. The countries there, although they were not among the strongest at that time, were still largely politically subject. And here we have the struggle of the Nanai boys between a completely puppet state (Ukraine), and a partly subjective (Russian Federation) state, which sets as its goal an agreement with its Western partners.
        The military component here is completely secondary to the political one.
        Why - we can only guess.. There are probably good reasons for this -
        Well, not only have we read works on strategy, the generals are definitely aware of what’s there
        is it written

        Generals, and especially in the modern Russian Federation, do not make any political decisions. Therefore, apart from the Minister of Defense, no one bears responsibility for political decisions. They are responsible for building the army and providing information to the leadership.
        Why is it clear? We must look at the facts. The Russian leadership has launched an operation not intending to fight. The plan was to frighten the opponent (ideally collapse) and to quickly reach an agreement on minimally acceptable terms for the Russian Federation. Hence the recognition of the Zelensky government and everything else. When this “super plan” failed, it became clear that we had no one and nothing to fight with. Changing the political introduction meant seriously quarreling with Western bosses without hope of return. Nobody dares to do this. As a result, they switched to plan B - “displacing the enemy from Donbass” and “waiting out” him in the hope of an agreement. What we are still doing.
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 22: 56
          Quote: Belisarius
          Changing the political introduction meant seriously quarreling with Western bosses without hope of return. Nobody dares to do this. As a result, they switched to plan B - “displacing the enemy from Donbass” and “waiting out” him in the hope of an agreement. What we are still doing

          Hm. Well, for hardened brains who are not able to perceive the ongoing military operation as part of a political operation - not bad. Just like the proposal to appoint Timokhin as Minister of Defense is generally FIVE Yes

          Vylezary, when you screw up (and you, in fact, have already screwed up. It’s just not visible to everyone yet) - come in, I’ll reluctantly explain to you how not to do it again. With disrespect hi
    5. 0
      14 February 2024 10: 31
      The author scolds Russian generals who did not understand the strategic importance of aviation.


      How can the generals understand this?
      Napoleon didn’t understand either, Kutuzov didn’t guess,
      Zhukov didn’t delve into it, they are...generals.
      PS just a joke
    6. +14
      14 February 2024 10: 59
      Quote: Belisarius
      Coolest article. Very interesting and important.

      Yes, Alexander worked hard to deal with the “positional deadlock”. Only this is a consequence, not a cause, a “positional deadlock”, primarily political. We fight here, we trade here... In general, how free is our leadership from the influence of the interests of Russian oligarchs and, in general, the world's puppeteers, the masters of capitalism?
      Who prevented troops from being sent to Ukraine in 2014? Everything would be legal, no one, according to international law, would call it aggression. The Ukrainian army was not ready to resist the forces that were concentrated on our side, the authority to send troops was delegated, this was an official appeal from Yanukovych for help (registered with the UN).
      Alas, it all came down to “let them just try,” and the troops were withdrawn. Moreover, they did not recognize the referendums in Donbass, but they recognized Poroshenko... This was after the anti-constitutional coup in Kiev was announced, and such recognition automatically legalized Bandera’s supporters, and made illegitimate the legitimate president of Ukraine and his prime minister, who were with us . How is that? Even the monstrous crime in Odessa remained unpunished, and in the Donbass they killed Russians for 8 long years and strengthened Ukroreich. Who will be responsible for this?
      Now the SVO, “pre-emptive strike”... There is only pride here, for Gostomel, our Airborne Forces... The rest is an adventure, a farce, mediocrity of politics, where our army was set up.
      It was said in an article about our Air Force, but where about our fleet as a military factor, and it was clearly superior to the forces of Ukraine.
      Again, they surrendered Zmeiny - a gesture of “good will”... In response, the death of the cruiser “Moskva”.
      Suppressing enemy air defense is not fantastic, but what we have is that our transport aircraft is being shot down over our territory.
      In short, if “we haven’t started yet,” it’s high time to set specific goals for specific tasks. When there is only “denazification” and “demilitarization,” then this positional impasse arises.
      1. +5
        14 February 2024 23: 40
        Quote: Per se.
        Yes, Alexander worked hard to deal with the “positional deadlock”. Only this is a consequence, not a cause, a “positional deadlock”, primarily political. We fight here, we trade here... In general, how free is our leadership from the influence of the interests of Russian oligarchs and, in general, the world's puppeteers, the masters of capitalism?

        Everything you write is correct. And the history of the issue was beautifully presented. As for our leadership, it received its power not from Washington, but during the anti-Soviet revolution. Therefore, politically, it is initially independent. And our oligarchs, that is, people appointed to manage pieces of former public property, do not directly influence the decisions of the leadership. Our capitalism is of a state-mafia nature, and not purely private-oligarchic. For example, our SVO oligarchs are generally in trouble.
        Another thing is that the leadership of the Russian Federation itself wants to become part of the global capital system and part of the West (which is what it directly says), and is very offended by the fact that the West not only does not let them in, but now believes that the post-Soviet authorities have done theirs case (“created irreversibility” of the destruction of socialism and its industry with the army, in the words of Chubais) and can be free. The Russian authorities want to maintain their power in the Russian Federation and guarantee their security. This agreement with the West is what the North Military District actually stands for.
        Quote: Per se.
        In short, if “we haven’t started yet,” it’s high time to set specific goals for specific tasks.

        It's time, but it's difficult. Let me remind you that we attacked the entire territory of Ukraine recognizing its government and territorial integrity (Except Donbass and Crimea). And then, on the 4th day of the operation, negotiations began with this same government (also calling it Nazi) for peace. It is difficult to imagine anything more enchantingly ridiculous than such a policy. This is what brought us to today's impasse.
        You write correctly, in 2014 we had the right and power, and it was easy to liberate Ukraine (except for Ukraine). In 2022, the right no longer existed and the forces were equal, but it was still possible to resolve the issue. Now much has been completely lost. For example, in 2022, at the beginning of the campaign, Strelkov proposed to mobilize, introduce the SVO into the legal framework, and concentrate on one operational direction, rather than scattering forces. It might have worked then, but now I’m not so sure.
        1. +4
          15 February 2024 06: 45
          Quote: Belisarius
          As for our leadership, it received its power not from Washington, but during the anti-Soviet revolution.


          Here I would like to note that everything is unlikely to be so simple, both with Gorbachev and Yeltsin. In any case, the Anglo-Saxons took an active part in discrediting socialism, sabotage and sabotage. Where their agents are now, one can only suspect and guess.
          We must not forget such a significant factor: bourgeois Russia inherited nuclear potential from the USSR, and, until now, is the only country in the world that can be guaranteed to destroy the United States. Both the masters of world capitalism and their henpecked counterparts in Russia are forced to take this into account. You can’t give up right away (the people won’t understand), the outright collapse of the country, as it happened under the drunkard, renegade Yeltsin, is already fraught with rebellion, both among the people and in the army.
          Therefore, we have to disguise ourselves, puff out our cheeks, pretend to butt heads with the West, and in fact continue to destroy the Soviet reserve of strength, and the Russian people themselves, amid fireworks and holidays, under an extravaganza of success... Well, the “reptilians” took into account the trusting “Russian soul”.
          SVO, in essence, this is PR, and something that was already impossible not to do, but everything was done in the most incompetent way, as you rightly noted, counting on an agreement. Here again they “deceived”, and the Russians are killing Russians, freeing up space in the sun, depleting the economy.
          One thing is already irreversible, blood has been shed, and a lot of blood, and the world’s ghouls, the “masters of the planet,” and our henpecked renegades will have to answer for everything.
    7. +2
      14 February 2024 11: 12
      Quote: Belisarius
      The author scolds Russian generals who did not understand the strategic importance of aviation.

      Quote: Belisarius
      How does the author see the solution to the problem?

      But he doesn’t see - he forgets that standards In WWII, neither the USA nor the Russian Federation had any aviation at all.
      Neither us nor them not capable Let's say lose 20-30 bombers - what happened most gorgeous the number of losses during the raids on Dresden and Co.
      Then this - they were silent for 5 minutes, took off their cap and went on planning - “They’ll do it/teach it again”...
      And now the loss of 20-30 bombers simultaneously- this is a complete collapse, absolute... At least somewhere, in any country..
      That's why he's not in the General Staff - what nonsense is he suggesting?
      1. +1
        14 February 2024 16: 29
        Thank you very much my1970. You are the only honest person on this forum who directly spoke about the difficulty of using Russian aviation in the Northern Military District. It should also be added that although the German fascists, when they shot down Soviet planes, sent the pilots to concentration camps, the Ukrainian fascists can simply dismember Russian pilots.
        Therefore, Russian aviation is used in the Northern Military District very limitedly and ineffectively. And during the Second World War, German aviation flew to Gorky and bombed it and many other cities and often dominated the air. And Russian aviation in the Northern Military District strives not to fly beyond the line of combat contact due to the threat of being shot down by Ukrainian air defense missiles
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 20: 31
          Everything is true, of course, but that’s why Ukrainian aviation doesn’t fly to us either.
          1. 0
            15 February 2024 00: 31
            Everything is true, of course, but that’s why Ukrainian aviation doesn’t fly to us either.

            Of course, you are right that Ukrainian aviation does not fly to us for this reason. BUT the trouble is that you can’t give a damn about Ukrainian aviation, but the fact is that Russian aviation is virtually inactive and has not ensured complete dominance in the Ukrainian skies, as German planes did when they chased every person and fired even girls with machine guns.
            And Russian aviation does not bomb all these Hymers complexes, Ukrainian tanks, etc. in Ukraine
      2. +6
        14 February 2024 18: 10
        And here are the losses. Just compare the number of combat missions of the US Air Force in the war with Iraq and the efforts of the Russian Aerospace Forces. The USA was doing 4,5 THOUSAND sorties PER DAY!!!! And this pace continued throughout the entire company. THOUSANDS OF DEPARTURES PER DAY!!! It is clear that they gouged everything possible and made it impossible to maneuver the troops. Has the Russian Aerospace Forces done anything similar? If only in the first days. And then that's it. Launching NURS towards the enemy is not work. This is a transfer of ammunition with minimal effect.
        A modern fighter/attack aircraft carries bombs like a WWII heavy bomber. Moreover, they are many times more accurate. 1 modern aircraft is equal in strength to a squadron of those years. Half a hundred aircraft can turn any city into a humanitarian disaster zone in a few days. Look how Israel turned neighborhoods into garbage in a matter of days. And we besieged the surrounded plant for several weeks.
        1. -1
          14 February 2024 19: 35
          Quote: Single-n
          Look how Israel turned neighborhoods into garbage in a matter of days. And we besieged the surrounded plant for several weeks.

          For you personally - Gaza Strip 40 at 6/12 km - this means that it is under fire ALL through and through. At the same time, Israel has been swarming there for 4 months feel
          Quote: Single-n
          The USA was doing 4,5 THOUSAND sorties PER DAY!!!! And this pace continued throughout the entire company. THOUSANDS OF DEPARTURES PER DAY!!

          Wow...
          Only here is the trouble. - Iraq, unlike Ukra, did not receive information from reconnaissance satellites and AWACS.
          Here's a case.....
          That is why as soon as we take off, their air defense is ready for battle.
          1. 0
            15 February 2024 00: 36
            Only here is the trouble. - Iraq, unlike Ukra, did not receive information from reconnaissance satellites and AWACS.
            Here's a case.....


            Only the satellites are not able to detect the moment of aircraft takeoff... and AWACS will not see what is happening in the Voronezh and Belgorod regions, for example. Yes, the Ukrainians may be ready for the takeoffs of our aviation, but the tactics of aviation actions when suppressing air defense, which is being developed (should at least be developed), are tactics in order to open and suppress this very air defense with their actions, but this is not being done.
            As for losses...we suffered them because, by and large, we couldn’t bomb the enemy except with unguided blanks, NARs, and nothing else; aerial bombs with UMPC appeared quite recently at the Aerospace Forces, I hope you remember this?
            What a trouble!
          2. +3
            15 February 2024 08: 57
            Excuse me, but with whom have we been preparing to fight for at least 8 years? With a crowd of Bedouins on camels with rusty Kalash rifles? Again, HOW did all this prevent the Azov Steel from being gouged out? We besieged this factory for several weeks. Was there air defense there too? Or block the same Maryika with Avdeevka? Do you even know that they are 3-5 km from Donetsk? Yes, there the range of WWII guns is enough to block traffic on the roads. Was it AWACS that prevented our VKS from blocking the roads to Kharkov? Gouge the main power plants? We could have gotten through the cultural center in Chernigov. And in the generator room there is no Poltava Thermal Power Plant.
            It’s just that this war showed the unpreparedness of the entire structure of the Russian Defense Ministry. At the beginning of 2022, the Ukrainian Armed Forces had no drones, no highmars, no patriots, no “Caesars” of any kind. and one vegetable of the RF Armed Forces could barely crawl.
            We got used to war games with naked-assed opponents. Or with small units. When you could give a damn about everything.
          3. +1
            15 February 2024 09: 30
            And the most important thing. If 400 targets arrive at an air defense division at once, then I don’t care about AWACS. And as a result, the air defense simply falls apart. Even if you lose 5 aircraft, you will crush the air defense. And the next day there will be no one to answer. This is exactly how the Luftwaffe unraveled the Red Army Air Force. Even with fewer planes. Simply by creating local excellence and ongoing impact. 5-6 flights per day. And the USSR Air Force could not keep up the pace. They repulsed 1-2 attacks, and then they could neither refuel the planes nor change airfields to escape the attacks.
            And only then the nightmare for the Red Army began. When she was destroyed from the air on the march.
            And when per hour, a teaspoon. It is clear that the enemy will have time to pull up reserves and adapt to your tactics.
            Yes, even when the Russian Aerospace Forces decided to play at destroying the Ukrainian energy system, nothing came of it again. And how much they fussed about this in the media. And the end result is nothing. Neither the military-industrial complex nor the Ukrainian Armed Forces stopped these attacks. The population also did not flee from the freezing cities. Even the electricity supply was not greatly affected.
            Simply, instead of admitting that the Armed Forces and the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation were not ready to conduct such large-scale battles, and the “everyone will run away” plan failed. They began to cultivate the ideas “the Armed Forces of Ukraine are about to surrender”, “everyone is already tired of them, they won’t be given anything”, “and that they are being given rusty rubbish and it will not solve anything.”
            Everyone was hoping for an agreement. But he won't be there. And no matter how much you shut your mouth and come up with beautiful excuses. The problems haven't gone away. And they will crush us for years. Decades if necessary. There are plenty of resources and determination there. And here everyone is hoping for some kind of election or interview.
            Greedy, cowardly, aggressive and confused children. Not rulers.
  4. +7
    14 February 2024 05: 52
    and this despite the fact that a huge mass of documents, secret ones at that, in which tasks were set for our troops, later fell into the hands of the Ukrainian side

    Well, that’s what the SVO is for, and not a war, so that the real culprits of this will not be punished.
  5. 0
    14 February 2024 06: 34
    The ideas are certainly familiar, I immediately remembered Pereslagin, but if our leadership had read Pereslagin, it certainly wouldn’t have been worse.
  6. +2
    14 February 2024 06: 52
    Exactly. Good analytics without mischief and with a sober assessment.
    1. +7
      14 February 2024 09: 00
      Quote: curvimeter
      Exactly. Good analytics without mischief and with a sober assessment.

      And what is valued there?
      For Russia, with its quantitative balance of forces with NATO, as well as with other potential adversaries, The issue of conducting large-scale combat operations on the ground against an enemy many times superior in strength may become relevant.

      The assumption that the General Staff does not have a strategy for using tactical and nuclear weapons against physically superior forces due to the fear of “What if it hits us?”
      It seems that the Russian bourgeoisie is completely against the fact that they will lose what they honestly stole in a fire during a nuclear skirmish... The question of the availability of bomb shelters, work in the conditions of the use of nuclear weapons of enterprises, emergency and public services is irrelevant (as are the issues of mobilization) in the early 90s with the death of the USSR and the emergence of overseas partners.
      * * *
      good Here's some analytics...
  7. +11
    14 February 2024 06: 54
    The article quite correctly indicates the reasons for the current state of affairs in the Northern Military District - ".... But for this you need to work systematically and consistently to achieve such superiority, and if instead you put all your efforts into PR, propaganda, grand parades and tank biathlons, then You might be unpleasantly surprised." And if you really want to change something in this situation, then you need to start with the causes, not the consequences.
  8. +7
    14 February 2024 06: 55
    Great article! We are not often spoiled with such materials lately, for obvious reasons. But, with all due respect to the Author (I didn’t read to the end, but I already know who wrote laughing) this is a free, stripped-down retelling of the commentary “Fundamentals of Analytical Strategy” by A. Patients to “Lost Victories” by E. Manstein with examples from recent history. Doesn’t detract from the author’s work at all, it’s just that it’s difficult to remake the classic theory request
    "Respect and respect" to the author! But as always hi
  9. +2
    14 February 2024 07: 03
    To understand the issue - in the battle described in the link, it was decided who would enter Baghdad first - units of the 3rd Infantry Division of the US Army or a group of Republican Guard troops trying... to pick up the pace after the breakthrough of American columns into the Iraqi rear.

    Everything according to grandfather K. Clausewitz. There is no time to look for a quote now, I have to run to work. Literally: “A general battle can take any form, even man against man.”
  10. Eug
    +4
    14 February 2024 07: 04
    To the speed of transferring reserves, I would add the ability to concentrate and enhance fire impact. And I first learned about the speed of transfer of reserves as one of the decisive factors from Isaev’s lectures, who directly linked the turning point in the Great Patriotic War with this factor.
  11. +8
    14 February 2024 07: 27

    There are still many wars ahead, and we will need operational art


    The whole article was ruined with one phrase: new citizens of the Russian Federation from Central Asia are not going to fight, and besides them, soon there will be no one to hold a gun...
    1. +1
      14 February 2024 16: 41
      new citizens of the Russian Federation from Central Asia are not going to fight, and soon there will be no one else except them

      Only the father of at least three children has the right to answer this way; the rest are to blame themselves.
  12. +17
    14 February 2024 07: 27
    10++++++ article.

    Now Russian army generals have enormous problems understanding what aviation is needed for in principle; worse than that, they only have an understanding of why the fleet is needed, but at the same time, for historical reasons, they were able to achieve control over both aviation and the fleet.


    The methodology and ability to conduct air offensive operations and the massive use of aviation have been completely lost. Over the course of two years, the SVO failed to develop and apply tactical techniques for opening and subsequently destroying the enemy’s air defense system.

    This indicates the degradation of domestic military science and the inability of headquarters to do such work. The dominance of fighters and ground forces in the leadership of the Aerospace Forces does not allow us to objectively assess the situation, draw conclusions and correct the situation.

    Instead of actions by front-line and long-range aviation, the Navy and the Russian Military Aviation according to a single plan aimed at destroying the air defense system, we are seeing only episodic attacks on individual targets.
    1. +7
      14 February 2024 09: 09
      Quote: avia12005
      The methodology and ability to conduct air offensive operations and the massive use of aviation have been completely lost.

      You probably couldn't say it better.
    2. +5
      14 February 2024 09: 56
      The methodology and ability to conduct air offensive operations and the massive use of aviation have been completely lost.

      I don't think so. As for me, the reason is in the very development of military equipment. When an attack aircraft began to cost exorbitant amounts of money, and its production became unacceptable in military conditions. The loss of even a link is equal to a severe defeat, because they are irreplaceable within a reasonable time. That is, we have to fight exclusively on pre-war reserves. If in WWII the exchange of a bomber regiment for a strategic bridge was quite reasonable, because the mass production of equipment and pilot training made it possible to make up for losses in a timely manner, now this is simply not realistic. As a result, aviation is extremely protected.

      And if we take into account that all of NATO is looming over us in its full glory, and a collision with it is by no means hypothetical, then it is clearly not possible to waste our already not very numerous aircraft over Ukraine.. Only to ensure the main blow, leading to an early victory . And this doesn’t even seem to be planned for now...
      1. +6
        14 February 2024 10: 39
        It should be noted that all these techniques for overcoming and destroying Western air defense were developed and tested in exercises back in the 80s. For example, in the 23rd VA, 30 adib and 21 bad on Mig-27K, D, Su-24 aircraft were overcome at low altitudes by Zabvo air defense systems with S-200, S-300, Buk, etc. So, having taken off in Borza, the Mig-27 flight at extremely low altitudes, using the valleys of the Onon and Ingoda rivers, landed in Domna (27 km from Chita). Air defense saw them only on the landing course, when they rose to 600 meters.

        That school just left. But the new one is not capable.

        If anyone is interested, I’ll write in a personal message who commanded the flight winked
        1. +6
          14 February 2024 10: 46
          That school just left. But the new one is not capable.

          In fairness, it should be noted that modern Western air defense and reconnaissance are far ahead of the detection methods of 40 years ago...
          1. +4
            14 February 2024 10: 48
            You can't escape the radio horizon. But you can’t see everything with satellites) especially at night and when it’s cloudy.
        2. +4
          14 February 2024 11: 39
          All the same, losses cannot be avoided. Well, how will you suppress air defense - if target designation comes from the AWACS radar over Poland? And you can’t do anything with it in today’s realities? You fly over the village - and from it a launcher shoots at you - balls. It is extremely difficult to find her - she does not conduct an active search.
          1. +3
            14 February 2024 12: 18
            Target designation is carried out through which communication channel? it must be torn apart. Otherwise, of course, intelligence will track everything!
            1. +1
              14 February 2024 12: 20
              From link-16. As I understand it, it’s quite difficult to crush him, especially over foreign territory..
              1. +2
                14 February 2024 20: 42
                Why haven’t we heard anything about our use of anti-radar missiles?
              2. 0
                19 February 2024 15: 09
                Until we learn to put pressure, target designation and information will flow to the enemy and it will be very difficult to win.
        3. -6
          14 February 2024 16: 45
          avia12005 -I think you are very mistaken in finding the reason for the ineffectiveness of Russian aviation.
          Personally, I assume that the Ukrainians are placing their air defense missiles near residential buildings, schools and kindergartens. and therefore Russian pilots are simply afraid to bomb these missiles for fear of killing children.
          1. 0
            26 February 2024 10: 57
            If you want to ensure the safety of civilians, you do not need to initiate a CWO.
    3. +1
      14 February 2024 11: 24
      Quote: avia12005
      Over the course of two years, the SVO failed to develop and apply tactical techniques for opening and subsequently destroying the enemy’s air defense system.

      For this purpose must nothing at all - the presence of crews/aircraft with the slogan “Will they shoot you down? But they will open the air defenses!! and we will posthumously repair them!”
      You don’t know that country 404’s air defense fires only at large drones and planes everywhere except Kyiv
      Don’t you know that current air defense systems can stupidly run away from a position? Moreover, I’m sure that they constantly change their deployment around Kyiv.
      Quote: avia12005
      Instead of actions by front-line and long-range aviation, the Navy and the Russian Military Aviation according to a single plan aimed at destroying the air defense system,

      For this you need a little change - READINESS lose 5-10-20 planes per day.
      If such a possibility physically no, all the author’s rituals are about STRATEGIC bombings are just cockroaches celebrating spring
      1. +3
        14 February 2024 12: 15
        If you don’t know, the USSR used the ambush air defense system during the Vietnam War. And the USSR Air Force had an excellent way to deal with them. To do this, you need to have RTR and electronic warfare aircraft. But we actually don’t have them. As de facto, what I wrote above does not exist - there are no personnel who could organize this. And you’re talking about losses, that’s not what you need to think about)))
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 12: 41
          Quote: avia12005
          To do this, you need to have RTR and electronic warfare aircraft.

          Where were they in sufficient quantity? In the USSR - 200-300-500 aircraft - taking into account the size of the country?
          Oh nooo, for some reason there were one and a half of them there
          Quote: avia12005
          no frames
          They weren’t there then and they aren’t now...
          1. +1
            14 February 2024 13: 10
            I see that even though you have an aviation shoulder strap, you are either infinitely far from aviation or are too young to remember what it was like “under the USSR.” I report that in each formation, and there were more than a dozen of them, there were 1-2 Su-24 MR regiments, which also conducted electronic reconnaissance. There were squadrons of An-12, Mi-10, Mi-8 PP. And this does not take into account the RTR and electronic warfare equipment of districts and groups of troops.

            The reasons are clear. All that remains is to correct the situation.
            1. 0
              14 February 2024 13: 32
              Quote: avia12005
              I report that in each formation, and there were more than a dozen of them, there were 1-2 Su-24 MR regiments, which also conducted electronic reconnaissance. There were squadrons of An-12, Mi-10, Mi-8 PP.

              I'll argue a little bit. Here in 2016 there were articles (series) about aircraft of all types of reconnaissance
              As far as I remember, the EU -121 with modifications was 10 times larger than ours.
              But I'm really far from big aviation
              1. +1
                14 February 2024 14: 33
                The Su-24MR, with its RTR container station, “sees” everything it emits from an altitude of 4000 meters at a distance of up to 150 km. At the same time, he follows a route along the front line at a distance of 70 kilometers from it. Including a NATO air defense missile detection station.
                1. +1
                  14 February 2024 17: 01
                  Quote: avia12005
                  the RTR station “sees” everything that radiates, from an altitude of 4000 meters at a distance of up to 150 km.
                  what if NOT radiates?
                  If the complex directly receives all the data from Avax from Poland without stopping?
                  1. 0
                    15 February 2024 07: 47
                    AWACS can only give space to an aircraft. Guidance is carried out by the air defense system itself. There are two radars there - detection and guidance. That is, the air defense system itself must operate on radiation for a short time.
      2. +7
        14 February 2024 12: 20
        To do this, you need a small thing - a WILLINGNESS to lose 5-10-20 aircraft per day.


        Yes, in the first few days.
        But why then aviation if not for this?

        then all the author’s rituals about STRATEGIC bombing are just cockroaches celebrating spring


        Buy a full-length picture of Shoigu and don’t forget to kiss his shoe in the morning
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 12: 52
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          To do this, you need a small thing - a WILLINGNESS to lose 5-10-20 aircraft per day.
          Yes, in the first few days.
          But why then aviation if not for this?

          How many Is Israel working in the Gaza Strip? In general, with artillery bombing, UAVs and other things?
          Does it help? Do you remember the Sector sizes?
          40 by 6 km - there is EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE

          Therefore, on the fingers - in a month - with losses of 5-10 aircraft per day - you would even have ours the most liberal GS and Shoigu - accidentally they would have died “climbing on Elbrus” or “they would have drank cold water in Khanty-Mansiysk and contracted pneumonia.”
          Simply because aviation would end... completely... in general.
          Now is not the time" 800 Bostons in 1 wave" - forget...
          1. +2
            14 February 2024 13: 01
            How long has Israel been working in the Gaza Strip? In general, with artillery bombing, UAVs and other things?
            Does it help? Do you remember the Sector sizes?
            40 by 6 km - there is EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE


            I can remember how much Israel worked on Syrian air defense in the Bekaa Valley in 1982.
            I can remember NATO losses in 78 days in Yugoslavia, and there the detection of air targets was very similar to the Ukrainian one, as was the degree of decentralization of the air defense system.
            And hundreds of missiles were fired at NATO members. They were seen, they were led, they were shot at.
            But something went wrong.

            PS What you are doing is, of course, dishonor and disgrace, but at least start taking money for it or something...
            1. 0
              14 February 2024 13: 18
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              I can remember how much Israel worked on Syrian air defense in the Bekaa Valley in 1982.

              Forget it. 40 years have passed.
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              I can remember NATO losses in 78 days in Yugoslavia, and there the detection of air targets was very similar to the Ukrainian one, as was the degree of decentralization of the air defense system.

              Mmmm - helped Yugoslavia ALL NATO and US intelligence? If not, then forgive me, Yugoslavia did not sit next to country 1 on 404 hectare, let alone compare air defense.

              Quote: timokhin-aa
              What you are doing is, of course, dishonor and disgrace, but at least start taking money for it or something...
              that is, you understand that I’m not for money, but I have OWN opinion? Already good!!!
              In the quiet times of Stalin, you would have been spanked even without trial - for a sabotage proposal "Let's destroy ALL of the USSR's aviation!!!"
              What happened with regiment TB 3 in "The Living and the Dead"? According to German documents, the bridge was delayed for 1 day, not even a day.
              And the pilot shot himself not because of the appearance of being “like the Germans” - it is impossible to confuse the uniform, but because of the disgrace - how such figures as you simply “carried out strategic bombings”. Aimless and senseless exchange

              And now, alas, the only consolation is that “God does not give a horn to a lively cow.”
              Keep planning further
        2. +2
          14 February 2024 13: 45
          Quote: timokhin-aa
          Yes, in the first few days.
          But why then aviation if not for this?

          No, well, if you think about it. Ukraine alone had 1 Buk-M72s at the beginning of the conflict. If we roughly count on exchanging one Buk for one plane, that’s already 72 planes. Moreover, after the arrival of an anti-radar missile, you can try to repair the Buk (if there was no direct hit), but it is unlikely that it will be possible to restore the crashed plane.
          1. +2
            14 February 2024 13: 51
            Look at NATO in Yugoslavia
            1. +1
              14 February 2024 13: 53
              Quote: timokhin-aa
              Look at NATO in Yugoslavia

              Did Yugoslavia really have Buks?
              1. +4
                14 February 2024 13: 56
                They had air defense systems with which they quite successfully escorted NATO aircraft and confidently fired at them.
                But then came the nuances that our would-be generals just can’t get to grips with.
                1. +1
                  14 February 2024 14: 03
                  Quote: timokhin-aa
                  They had air defense systems with which they quite successfully escorted NATO aircraft and confidently fired at them.

                  The Buk is a different generation compared to the S-125.
                  ...designed to combat maneuvering aerodynamic targets at low and medium altitudes (from 30 meters to 14-18 kilometers) in conditions of intense radio countermeasures.

                  Here at VO the opinion was expressed that it is much more difficult to “jam” a modern radar or “steal” its missile with interference compared to previous generations (S-75, S-200, S-125). A completely different interference energy is required, orders of magnitude more powerful.
                  1. +2
                    14 February 2024 14: 13
                    The Buk is a different generation compared to the S-125.


                    It wouldn't help.
                    1. +3
                      14 February 2024 14: 23
                      Quote: timokhin-aa
                      It wouldn't help.

                      In the conditions of Yugoslavia? I think that the losses of NATO aviation would not have been two aircraft, but several dozen, if the Serbs had Buks instead of S-125s. An almost ideal air defense system for ambush tactics.

                      And now air defense systems with missiles with optical seekers are already underway. How to deal with them with interference and PRR? No way, practically.

                      My opinion is that modern air defense can be crushed and broken through not by fighters costing several tens of millions of dollars each, but by the massive use of drones at a cost two orders of magnitude lower.
                      1. +2
                        14 February 2024 14: 48
                        In the conditions of Yugoslavia?


                        What's the difference? They have sophisticated missiles, we know the frequencies at which their seekers operate and the level of noise immunity.
                        In Vietnam, electronic warfare personnel from the B-52 even recorded the operation of the SAM radio correction channels and crushed them.
                        In Yugoslavia, hundreds of missiles of various types were fired at NATO aircraft, two were hit.
                        Why is that? Because in the pestilent west there are towed traps, but we don’t.
                        Because they have a proven doctrine of combating air defense, but we do not.

                        and the massive use of drones at a price two orders of magnitude lower.


                        Air defense is being crushed by the combined effects of all forces and means, including manned aircraft and UAVs; the Americans even have artillery involved in this.
                      2. +3
                        14 February 2024 15: 14
                        Quote: timokhin-aa
                        They have sophisticated missiles, we know the frequencies at which their seekers operate and the level of noise immunity.

                        I'm afraid that knowledge of "frequencies" (more precisely, ranges) in itself will not help.

                        Quote: timokhin-aa
                        In Vietnam, electronic warfare personnel from the B-52 even recorded the operation of the SAM radio correction channels and crushed them.

                        All this was taken into account when developing new generations (not new modifications of old generations) of air defense systems. In the case of electronic warfare, the armor was more likely to lose to the projectile - in the form of the radar. It's my personal opinion. Indirect confirmation is the transition to stealth aircraft (why? If electronic warfare is so omnipotent?).

                        Again, we look at the modern confrontation between the Israeli Air Force and Syrian air defense. For some reason, the Israelis prefer not to fly over Damascus, hiding behind their high-tech electronic warfare at frequencies they have long known, but launch air-to-ground missiles from afar. Apparently they are guessing about something.
                2. -2
                  14 February 2024 16: 57
                  Quote: timokhin-aa
                  They had air defense systems with which they quite successfully escorted NATO aircraft and confidently fired at them.

                  Apparently there thousand 3 downed planes?
                  Ass? If they all somewhere shot?
                  1. +1
                    15 February 2024 09: 53
                    You just need to be able to divert a missile launcher on its way to the plane.
                    As NATO does.

                    Yes?
                    1. 0
                      16 February 2024 08: 20
                      Quote: timokhin-aa
                      You just need to be able to divert a missile launcher on its way to the plane.
                      As NATO does.

                      Yes?

                      Quote: timokhin-aa
                      You just need to be able to divert a missile launcher on its way to the plane.
                      As NATO does.

                      Yes?

                      Mmmm....can you name a US war where its Air Force breaks through the layered defense of the S300/Patriot/Iris level?
                      All their wars until now are wars with Bantustans. No more..
                      As soon as the USSR appeared behind Vietnam, the US Air Force immediately washed itself with yushka and the PDSS reported on the results that the number of rescued pilots was three times greater than the number of downed aircraft.
      3. 0
        15 February 2024 12: 23
        Preparedness for losses is of course important! But the problem is not this, but the technical backwardness of videoconferencing! The arsenal does not have the necessary equipment with which to operate effectively in areas covered by air defense systems.
        US planes go on the attack, covered by interference from electronic warfare aircraft of various levels, including electronic warfare aircraft in battle formations! the strike group will be covered by a swarm of MALD decoys. Those. The air defense system must first cope with the interference, and then somehow identify the aircraft in a pile of false targets, or shoot at random! And he has almost no time to think, since the HARM PRRs are also launched in advance and using braking parachutes, the missile is on duty in the intended area of ​​​​operation of the air defense system, i.e. He turned on the radar, HARM picked up the signal, dropped the parachute and hit the radar, provided that when launching the PRR he guessed the area of ​​operation of the air defense system, then the radar will be hit almost instantly, in seconds. We have nothing like this physically! Only the X31 PRR, which is launched from an airplane, and this means a different reaction time.
        With the existing arsenal, there is no way to develop really effective tactics, you first need to replenish the arsenal with the necessary means, and then you can add tactics and results will come! soldier
        1. 0
          16 February 2024 08: 25
          Quote: Eroma
          US planes go on the attack hiding behind interference from planes

          And Russian aircraft taking off from airfields are already being tracked from space and by AWACS from Europe.
          Do you understand?
          Until now, the United States has never fought with an equal enemy - that is why Ukraine is not given the F-16
          1. 0
            16 February 2024 12: 27
            Quote: your1970
            Russian aircraft taking off from airfields are already being tracked from Space and by AWACS from Europe.

            As far as I know, spacecraft are not capable of tracking aircraft flying above the surface of the earth, not yet! Satellites only photograph the surface of the earth, i.e. they can only record the presence or absence of aircraft at the airfield and confirm their number. If there is shelter at the airfield, it may be possible to hide aircraft from the satellite. And AWACS also doesn’t see infinitely far, I think they most likely don’t view our airfields! No.
            Of course, NATO has influence, and the closer to the West the greater, but the main problem is still the insufficient equipment of the air forces! negative
            1. 0
              16 February 2024 14: 30
              Quote: Eroma
              , I think they most likely don’t look at our airfields

              In the Foreign Military Review back in the 90s they wrote that they were finishing off AWACS to Moscow. And this was when Poland was not yet in NATO
              Nobody bothers satellites to film continuously - the days of photographic films are long gone, and even concierges have a program that records the movement of objects in the lens
              1. 0
                16 February 2024 16: 21
                The E3A Sentry had a maximum detection range of 800 km; it was a high-altitude bomber. From the border of the GDR to Moscow there are thousands of kilometers, only over-the-horizon radars at such a distance can see something; for AWACS, the curvature of the earth does not allow it. No.
                Maybe they stuck some elements from over-the-horizon radars into modern AWACS, but I haven’t heard about this and, to be honest, I wasn’t interested, but it’s extremely unlikely! AWACS has limited accuracy, and this is only possible with direct radio visibility, without any reflections.
                As for satellites, they don’t have air targets to track yet!
                1. 0
                  16 February 2024 16: 42
                  Quote: Eroma
                  borders of the GDR, thousands of kilometers to Moscow,

                  What I read about it and wrote to me then this magazine occasionally appeared.
                  Now they are hanging almost on the border
                  Quote: Eroma
                  As for satellites, they don’t yet have air targets to track

                  All they need to do is record a change in the number of aircraft at the airfield and immediately notify AWACS.
                  Bundle....
    4. +4
      14 February 2024 13: 31
      Quote: avia12005
      and massive use of aviation.

      How can one think about the massive use of aviation if one designer of retirement age is engaged in the modernization of metal-cutting machines for the entire aircraft plant? But replacing Schneider or Siemens engines in CNC machines is quite a non-trivial task. Already during the SVO there was an attempt to merge 2 aircraft factories and at one of them to reduce the position of a designer in the chief mechanic department in order to raise the salaries of effective managers
  13. +1
    14 February 2024 07: 30
    a mass of documents later fell into the hands of the Ukrainian side and were made public.

    It would be interesting to know in more detail, perhaps this is the same reliable information as the Okranian maps with a scheme for the seizure of Crimea and Donetsk
  14. +1
    14 February 2024 07: 33
    The litmus test for how much the generals understand what is happening will be 2024.

    Well, this is just election propaganda (like, just be patient a little longer, and then everything will work out), there is no reason to change anything (no one was punished either in ’22 or ’23) - that means everyone at the top is happy with everything
  15. 0
    14 February 2024 07: 46
    In this situation, IMHO, there is little point in breakthroughs on our part.

    If we break through, what will we do next? Shall we introduce large mechanized formations into the breakthrough? But they must first be concentrated, then introduced, then consolidated - and all this time they will be an excellent target for high-precision and not very accurate weapons, and will be very noticeable to reconnaissance means.

    Well, okay, we gained a foothold on new frontiers, having suffered huge losses. And what's the point? Shall we undermine the will to resist? Why did it happen? Let's force Western sponsors to the negotiating table? Hardly. But we will get a piece of territory with a not very loyal population, and we will extend the LBS, which will require more resources. In Kyiv, will they come to their senses or get scared and start talking about peace? No, they don’t decide much there.

    Then why? In general, there is no need.

    From the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, a breakthrough and reconquest of territory makes sense, but from ours, it makes no sense.

    The goal of the SVO is to force the enemy to accept our terms, which requires bringing them to the negotiating table and recognizing the realities of the battlefield. The West is indifferent to Ukraine's territorial losses - and not only territorial ones. Therefore, we are not interested in breakthroughs.
    1. +5
      14 February 2024 10: 10
      What terms do you plan to “force the enemy to accept at the negotiating table”? The enemy is quite happy with the current situation, when the European “Houthis” are enduring the military potential of their geopolitical enemy. "Arming Ukraine is the cheapest way for the United States to strengthen its security. It's the Ukrainians who are doing the fighting, and they're the ones getting killed," Zanny Minton Beddoes, editor of The Economist magazine.
      1. 0
        14 February 2024 10: 28
        US rejects Putin's proposal for ceasefire in Ukraine to freeze conflict - Reuters

        President Vladimir Putin, through intermediaries, conveyed to the United States a proposal to freeze the conflict in Ukraine, but was refused, Reuters reports, citing three Russian sources familiar with the discussions.

        According to the agency’s interlocutors, the proposal was to freeze the conflict in its current positions, without ceding any territories to Ukraine.

        “Contacts with the Americans have led nowhere,” a senior Russian source told Reuters.
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 12: 21
          The war is going on because it is profitable! Who benefits is of course a difficult question, but it seems that the United States, and we, following them in the rhythm of a waltz, are copying their actions, but not entirely successfully.
        2. +8
          14 February 2024 14: 15
          Quote: Boris Sergeev
          President Vladimir Putin, through intermediaries, conveyed to the United States a proposal to freeze the conflict in Ukraine, but was refused

          Putin does not understand the fundamental principles of peace negotiations. In such negotiations, something always has to be given. And in order to have something to give, you must first take more than you need. If you need Kharkov and Odessa, then you need to take Kharkov, Odessa and Kyiv, and then say “I can give Kyiv back in exchange for peace.” Negotiations are conducted from a position of strength. Trying to start them from a position of weakness is not very clever. Shows the enemy in advance his readiness for shameful agreements and leaks.
      2. +1
        14 February 2024 11: 19
        Quote: Boris Sergeev
        The enemy is quite happy with the current situation


        The Armed Forces of Ukraine are not satisfied, the West is mostly satisfied. Therefore, peace on current territorial conditions would be beneficial for Russia.

        However, it is not yet clear how to achieve it. Certainly not by defense breakthroughs given the current balance of forces - that would be suicide.
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 11: 52
          Why is the Ukrainian Armed Forces not satisfied with the current situation? They receive modern technology, master it quite well, gain combat experience, their political status grows - Zaluzhny, for example, is more popular than the president. The fact that they are losing soldiers is of no concern to anyone. By the way, there was information that they were mobilizing mainly 40-year-olds from the South-East, washing away that very “Russian world”. So the more of them there are, the better.
          This is a war to destroy one of the sides, and the West has repeatedly stated which side they have in mind. So we cannot do without breakthroughs if our politicians are at least somehow interested in preserving the Russian Federation.
          1. +1
            14 February 2024 12: 28
            Why is the Ukrainian Armed Forces not satisfied with the current situation?

            Because they are rapidly losing trained personnel, especially among technicians and junior officers. But they are extremely difficult to replace.
          2. +1
            14 February 2024 12: 38
            Quote: Boris Sergeev
            This is a war to destroy one of the sides, and the West has repeatedly stated which side they have in mind.


            The Armed Forces of Ukraine are not satisfied because they suffer losses and do not achieve results.

            This is not a war of annihilation, it is an operation with limited forces and limited political goals.

            In case of escalation, goals may change, so escalation is not beneficial for Russia.
            1. +2
              14 February 2024 13: 02
              The fact that this is not a war of destruction is just your words. Listen, for example, to the president, who is clearly neither an eagle nor a hawk:

              “The elites of the West do not hide their goal to inflict on Russia - as they say, this is a direct speech - a strategic defeat. This means ending us once and for all. That is, they intend to transfer the local conflict into a phase of global confrontation,” Putin said during his Address to the Federal meeting of the Russian Federation.

              Within the framework of this dimension, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are quite effective in reducing the military potential of the Russian Federation: most of the large ships of the Black Sea Fleet have been disabled (the British Minister of Defense has already stated that the number of the Black Sea Fleet has decreased by 4% over the past 20 months), the air defense system is being opened, as in the front-line zone, and over strategic airfields, a sabotage network has been deployed throughout the entire territory of the Russian Federation (about 2022 sabotage attacks were committed in 23-400), the most combat-ready units of the Russian Federation - primarily the Airborne Forces - have been largely drained of blood. And it cannot be ruled out that after this prelude, NATO troops will not arrive - their largest exercises are currently underway along the perimeter of the Russian border. That’s when a “disarming strike” can be delivered, if even 15 missiles are enough to overload the Russian air defense system. One destroyer, Arleigh Burke, carries 96 missiles. As for the losses of junior command staff and technicians of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as necessary, they will be replaced with the help of the “west wind” - “vacationers” from Poles, Romanians, Georgians and other peripheral nations, or even their regular units.
              1. +1
                14 February 2024 13: 33
                That’s when a “disarming strike” can be delivered, if even 15 missiles are enough to overload the Russian air defense system.

                if they needed this, they would have done it long ago... the United States is perfectly happy with its current endless presence on the outskirts: the key puppets remain “at the helm”, the US military-industrial complex is growing by leaps and bounds, almost the whole world is shaking with fear and is ready to carry out the will of Washington
              2. +1
                14 February 2024 17: 13
                Quote: Boris Sergeev
                The fact that this is not a war of destruction is just your words. Listen, for example, to the president, who is clearly neither an eagle nor a hawk:

                “The elites of the West do not hide their goal to inflict on Russia - as they say, this is a direct speech - a strategic defeat. This means ending us once and for all. That is, they intend to transfer the local conflict into a phase of global confrontation,” Putin said during his Address to the Federal meeting of the Russian Federation.


                These are not my words, this is a fact for now - the SVO is underway, which we started and are carrying out with limited goals and limited means.

                NATO countries will also not accept military measures against us.

                The phrase “The Western elites do not hide their goal of inflicting on Russia - as they say, this is a direct speech - a strategic defeat” does not mean “This means ending us once and for all.”

                Many countries - and ours too - suffered strategic defeats, and these countries - and ours too - exist.

                The Northern Military District can turn into a war of annihilation, just as an attempt to cut through the Polish corridor turned into the Second World War, so escalation is not beneficial for us.
            2. +1
              14 February 2024 15: 12
              The Ukrainian Armed Forces are not satisfied

              The sheriff is not interested in the opinion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
              because they suffer losses and do not achieve results.

              The army is the only resource that the Saloreich can offer to the West,
              They don’t achieve it, but nevertheless they mobilize and continue to mobilize the population. The absence of a result does not mean that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will surrender. The West pays money, the Saloreikh sends soldiers to minefields.
              therefore, Russia’s escalation is not beneficial

              Russia benefits from victory, but it cannot achieve it, that’s for sure.
        2. +1
          14 February 2024 15: 03
          The West is mostly satisfied

          Since the West is satisfied with the current situation at the front, they will not allow Zelensky’s puppet to stop. I remember Boris Johnson and Biden and many other Western idiots come to support Zelensky.

          Therefore, peace on current territorial conditions would be beneficial for Russia.

          Complete nonsense. During the truce, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will use the time to strengthen the army by building concrete fortified areas, saturating it with armored vehicles, F15 Abrams and other weapons, and then they will go to recapture Crimea and the Russian Federation will wash itself with blood, this is what peace will lead to.
          However, it is not yet clear how to achieve it

          I agree that they cannot win either, alas, the Kremlin allowed itself to be lured into a trap. The author of the article gives the answer on how to get out of the trap.
          1. 0
            15 February 2024 10: 30
            “During the truce, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will use the time to strengthen the army by building concrete fortified areas, saturating them with armored vehicles, F15 Abrams and other weapons, and then they will go to recapture Crimea and the Russian Federation will wash itself with blood, this is what peace will lead to.”

            They are not as idiots there as we would like.

            "The author of the article gives the answer on how to get out of the trap."

            No, these are fantasies.
      3. 0
        14 February 2024 13: 37
        Quote: Boris Sergeev
        What terms do you plan to “force the enemy to accept at the negotiating table”?

        Ukraine's loss of a million men will most likely force it to refuse to consider Russians as potential slaves and will also force Finland, Japan and the United States to postpone aggressive actions against Russia. In any case, the fighting will last at least 2 years. The NWO will end either with the complete depletion of Europe or Russia.
        1. +1
          14 February 2024 13: 52
          Ukraine's loss of a million men will most likely force it to refuse to consider Russians as potential slaves

          Well, that’s a minimum for another 10 years... and about “slaves” somehow sounds too bookish... the goal is different, so that they don’t join NATO... and who did they think we were (!) or they will think it doesn't matter...
          1. 0
            17 February 2024 01: 08
            Quote: Vladimir80
            about “slaves” somehow sounds too bookish.

            Why according to the book? Zelensky directly states that he dreams of seizing Crimea. I also said tolerantly. Most likely, the Zelenskys and Kolomoiskys are planning the wholesale extermination of Russians who do not want to assimilate and obey.
        2. +2
          14 February 2024 17: 20
          Nobody cares how many millions of people Ukraine will lose. For Finland, Japan, Poland and the United States, the only thing that matters is how much Russia will lose and how much its military capabilities will weaken. Based on their assessment of the Russian Federation's losses, they will continue to act. Ukraine may at least become completely depopulated. "Rzeczpospolita-2" is worth it.
    2. +2
      14 February 2024 14: 40
      The goal of the SVO is to force the enemy to accept our terms, which requires bringing them to the negotiating table and recognizing the realities of the battlefield. The West is indifferent to Ukraine's territorial losses - and not only territorial ones. Therefore, we are not interested in breakthroughs

      How are you going to force them to accept our terms? Will you be on your knees begging or will you be praying? And having heeded your prayers, the Saloreich will lay down his arms and sit down for negotiations?
      1. 0
        15 February 2024 10: 30
        Quote: nickname7
        How are you going to force them to accept our terms? Will you be on your knees begging or will you be praying? And having heeded your prayers, the Saloreich will lay down his arms and sit down for negotiations?


        How is our government trying to do this?
    3. 0
      14 February 2024 20: 36
      Quote: S.Z.
      In this situation, IMHO, there is little point in breakthroughs on our part.
      If we break through, what will we do next?
      What do you usually do during a blitzkrieg? Destroy rear lines, intercept supply lines, destroy headquarters, etc.
      Quote: S.Z.
      Shall we introduce large mechanized formations into the breakthrough? But they must first be concentrated, then introduced, then consolidated - and all this time they will be an excellent target for high-precision and not very accurate weapons, and will be very noticeable to reconnaissance means.
      This means they need to be protected.
      Quote: S.Z.
      Well, okay, we gained a foothold on new frontiers, having suffered huge losses.
      Just the losses during the blitzkrieg will be small: see the experience of the Second World War.
      Quote: S.Z.
      And what's the point? Shall we undermine the will to resist?
      Remember 1941 in the USSR or 45 in Germany, where soldiers left without shells and fuel, abandoning their equipment and weapons, made their way through the forests to their own. This is exactly what the meaning should be.
      1. 0
        15 February 2024 10: 35
        We already had a blitzkrieg two years ago, we broke through all the way to Kyiv. The balance of power was more attractive for us then.

        What gives you reason to believe that a second such breakthrough will lead to different results?

        The experience of the Second World War speaks not so much of successful blitzkriegs as of successful breakthroughs with the subsequent loss of armies that broke through and fell into the cauldron.

        The scale is incommensurable - combat operations are carried out by a platoon, rarely more. What breakthroughs are there? And there is nothing to break through - there is no continuous front line.

        No reserves - no victory.
        1. 0
          15 February 2024 20: 10
          Quote: S.Z.
          We already had a blitzkrieg two years ago, we broke through all the way to Kyiv.
          This was not a blitzkrieg: no one smashed the rear, the enemy troops were not surrounded. They were just pushing for luck.
  16. +2
    14 February 2024 08: 03
    “You demand that we replace //// with someone like Hindenburg. But you cannot help but know that we do not have Hindenburgs in reserve.” (c) And to Stalin.
    Well, we don’t have Hindenburgs, we have to evaluate military thought according to Timokhin.
    As they say, in the absence of a stamp...

    Fir-trees, someone saw a “positional dead end”. It's strange that no one has seen "Run to the Sea" yet.

    Here, of course, we need to start with the basics: Clausewitz, for lovers of hookahs and Sun Tzu will do. For lovers of primary education, quite simply - a textbook (any) on the history of Russia of the 20th century.
    Perhaps someone will dig deeper and find the "Carlucci Doctrine".

    But let's move on to specifics.
    Let's try to set up a thought experiment, how does setting goals for the Armed Forces not according to “lines or goals,” but in the abstract, end for any country.
    Here are the options for abstractions, choose the most gentle one for “any country”:
    1) “...to support the formation of people’s power, in protecting the gains of the April Revolution of 1978 from external threats and internal enemies”;
    2) "....to stand up only for the unjustly offended country, kindred to Us, but to protect the honor, dignity, integrity of Russia and its position among the Great Powers. We unshakably believe that all Our faithful subjects will unanimously and selflessly stand up for the defense of the Russian Land. ";
    3) substitute what you need;
    4) I am the author of Military Review, I just recently wrote articles about “...in fact, Ukraine itself is on the brink of defeat, and its losses are much greater than ours, in the optimistic version for them - many times, but rather in total, dozens!" (04.04.2023/XNUMX/XNUMX) and my thought is evolving slowly.

    PS. SENECA: "FOR A SHIP THAT DOESN'T KNOW WHICH HARBOR IT WILL GO TO, NO WIND WILL BE FAIR." Quote from the website of the Legislative Assembly of the Ulyanovsk region, so this idea is approved by the state.
    1. +5
      14 February 2024 08: 12
      It’s not clear without quotes, and for whom Clausewitz is having a hard time, you can start studying “military thought” with L. Hart:
      “When talking about the purpose of war, it is necessary to clearly understand the difference between political and military goals. These goals are different, but closely related to each other, because countries wage war not for the sake of war itself, but for the sake of achieving a political goal. A military goal is only a means of achieving a political goal Therefore, the military goal must be determined by the political goal, and the main condition must be observed - not to set unrealizable military goals.

      Thus, the study of this problem must begin and end with politics.

      The term "object", although common, is not user friendly. It has a physical and geographical meaning and can therefore be confusing. It would be better to use the terms "purpose" when speaking of a political goal, and "military purpose" when speaking of the use of armed forces for political purposes.

      The purpose of war is to achieve a better, at least from your point of view, state of the world after the war. Therefore, when fighting a war, it is important to constantly remember what kind of peace you want. This applies equally to aggressive countries seeking to expand their territory, and to peace-loving countries struggling for self-preservation, although the views of aggressive and [386-387] peace-loving countries on what the “best state of the world” is are very different. "

      http://militera.lib.ru/science/liddel_hart1/21.html
      1. -1
        14 February 2024 15: 18
        Dad did exactly the opposite.
      2. -1
        14 February 2024 15: 21
        These quotes of yours like “the goal is not a political goal, but the other goal is an economic goal” is some kind of meaningless tautology. I wanted to be known as smart, but I wrote rubbish.
  17. +3
    14 February 2024 08: 05
    Everything that was written by the author (for which I thank him very much, of course) has been studied and re-taught in all academies, but this is of little use. On the contrary, weak players are good at reducing the campaign to a positional deadlock when the situation escalates. This happened in the spring of 2022 on the Ukrainian side, and similarly in the fall of 2022 on ours.
    A real embodiment of the way out of a positional impasse with approximately equal troops at the front is the Wehrmacht operation in France in May 1940. Moreover, a very risky provocative maneuver took place in Belgium and Holland, which set the Allied left flank in motion. As a result, the enemy struck the flank of the advancing group and cut it off from the main forces. The further collapse of the Allied front was cascading in nature, and the lack of operational reserves did not allow counterattacks on the advancing groups in order to slow down the pace of the offensive.
    Very often, a patriotic audience extols the so-called. "Brusilovsky breakthrough" as an example of breaking a positional deadlock. In fact, the success of the offensive of the Southwestern Front was completely exhausted at the end of June 1916. Indeed, due to the timely introduction of reserves and sensitive attacks in various directions, it was possible to open the enemy’s defenses to tactical depth. But due to the indecisiveness of the commander and the passivity of Headquarters, access to operational space was not achieved, and the second half of the summer-autumn of 1916 generally passed under the sign of the “Kovel deadlock” and the salvation of the Romanian Front, which, in principle, buried all hopes of success.
    Returning to Ukraine, we can draw the following conclusions:
    - any ground operations with the available forces on both sides are doomed to insignificant results with significant losses;
    - victory for one of the parties can only be achieved with the introduction of additional forces in new, unprotected directions; for Russia and NATO this is Belarus;
    - the strategic objective is to prevent maneuver by the enemy’s reserves, which requires the destruction of the enemy’s transport infrastructure by any means;
    -the transition of the Russia/NATO confrontation into a protracted phase is fraught with an attempt to resolve the crisis through a sea and air blockade with the ensuing consequences.
    1. BAI
      +5
      14 February 2024 09: 03
      In order to attack, you need to concentrate your forces. once they concentrate, they will be immediately destroyed, which is what we observed yesterday. Intelligence has reached a new qualitative level. Iraq's focus is for underdeveloped countries.
      And military science does not know how to solve this problem - the concentration of troops in the absence of secrecy. You cannot rely on the stupidity of the enemy high command. The Ukrainian Armed Forces had one ride, I hope it won’t happen again.
      1. +1
        14 February 2024 10: 06
        military science does not know

        He knows. Massive concentration of strike power in one direction. Agree - in principle, the Russian Aerospace Forces could take out in a day everything that could be mischievous at the front 50 km and 100 km deep. And then throw mechanized formations into the breakthrough. But this would entail inevitable large losses, both in people and in extremely expensive equipment. And we cannot afford this, given the presence of NATO in full force on our borders. Because such losses will have to be made up for years. Well, how long will it take us to produce, say, 100 aircraft and train pilots for them with high quality? This is the same one. As a consequence, the emphasis is placed on maximum conservation of resources, but at the same time, a decisive offensive is simply impossible to implement, isn’t it?
        1. +3
          14 February 2024 12: 17
          As a result, the emphasis is placed on maximum resource conservation


          Thank you, neighing.
          Now if there is ONE infantry fighting vehicle in a platoon, then this is already a strong platoon.
          The department has a staff of 5 people.
          They saved it, they saved it.
          1. 0
            14 February 2024 12: 19
            Do you have a recipe for somehow reducing these losses even more? Share, don't hide it to yourself..
            1. +1
              14 February 2024 15: 36
              The recipe is known for:
              We need to defeat the enemy army. After this, losses will decrease to zero.
              Obviously, this problem cannot be solved by a platoon alone. By sending a platoon to take a defensive position, you will simply waste your strength without causing significant damage to the enemy.
      2. +1
        14 February 2024 10: 52
        they will be destroyed immediately


        Did Russia succeed in destroying the Ukrainian forces concentrated for the summer offensive last year?
        1. -2
          14 February 2024 12: 22
          Perhaps the fact that the Ukrovermacht was forced to disperse its forces before the offensive under the threat of destruction was one of the reasons for its failure?
  18. +4
    14 February 2024 08: 20
    The generals propose, and the politicians decide... As the highest decides, so be it
    1. +1
      14 February 2024 08: 49
      Are you talking about the “size” of parades...? I agree with you too!
      1. +1
        14 February 2024 21: 02
        Now I understand how ridiculous all these military parades and tank biathlons look.
  19. fiv
    +3
    14 February 2024 08: 45
    Science reaches perfection only when it begins to use mathematics,” said K. MARX. Everything else is a set of empirical observations and their systematization.
  20. +4
    14 February 2024 08: 49
    You, Mr. Timokhin, make such calculations as if each user has a list of forces and means, reconnaissance results and an assessment of the enemy grouping...
    Even current military leaders cannot use the entire available arsenal of weapons.
    Russia does not even have the political will to end the grain deal, because a ship can be sunk not only with a torpedo, but also with a BEC, with the help of a DBK, and with the help of aviation.
    Positional SVO or war? You would have decided for yourself, because from the Supreme Command we have a vague: “We haven’t started yet!”
    And we are already interested in knowing what will happen when we finish and whether we will be able to finish waging trench warfare in the next 12 years (until 2036) at this rate...
    1. -1
      14 February 2024 13: 04
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Positional SVO or war?
      War?
      The problem is that the Martial Law Law is not strong enough in the event of a change of government to socialism.
      We’ll have to go back to the Criminal Code of the RSFSR of 1926, and there the “500s” were called by a slightly different word. And generals even then - which is surprising surely- they shot quite a bit
      1. 0
        14 February 2024 16: 44
        and there the “500s” were called by a slightly different word. And the generals even then - which is probably surprising - were shot quite a bit

        By the end of the war, 56 out of 6 thousand generals (0,9%), 150000 deserters out of 34,5 million conscripts (0,4%). The doubling of 56 into 150 can be neglected; this does not change the situation.
        1. -2
          14 February 2024 17: 17
          Quote: Nefarious skeptic
          150 000

          Some unexpected numbers.
          What period is this for? During the summer of 1941?
          Very similar to "4.5 million dead party members"
          1. 0
            15 February 2024 09: 27
            What period is this for? During the summer of 1941?

            These are executed deserters for the war. Or do you think that all those convicted of desertion were shot?
            You can search for the numbers yourself, which ones you like, I took the first ones that came up in the search so that you could check for yourself. If you find others, you can do the same calculations yourself.
            1. 0
              16 February 2024 09: 10
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              It is a shot deserters for the war.
              - I admit my guilt, I didn’t catch your message" shot"That's why I was surprised...
        2. ada
          0
          21 February 2024 16: 07
          Quote: Nefarious skeptic
          ... out of 34,5 million called up (0,4%). ...

          Here it is necessary to clarify that the indicated number is 34,5 million people. refers specifically to those called up for mobilization during the 4 war years and it is indeed dealt with in serious documents, but they also consider several components of its calculation.
          Interesting, where did you get it? If it doesn't bother you.
          1. +1
            21 February 2024 16: 30
            Interesting, where did you get it? If it doesn't bother you.

            Hello. Of course it won't be difficult. But I can hardly help. Why I can’t is clear from my words in the message above
            I took the first ones that came up in the searchso you can check for yourself.

            The point is that from the experience of communicating with my interlocutor, I know that he will try to check my words. And he will do this not using specialized literature, but simply using an Internet search. Therefore, so that he could see for himself that the numbers from the calculations were not my personal invention, I took the first ones from the search so that he could find this figure himself. The first thing the Internet produced for this request was https://limited-voenkom.ric.mil.ru/Stati/item/331730/#:~:text=%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%B9%D1% 81%D1%82%D0%B2%D1%83%D1%8E%D1%89%D0%B0%D1%8F%20%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1% 8F%20%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%20%D1%82%D1%80% D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%20%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB% D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F,%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1 %8B%2034%2C5%20%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%20%D1%87%D0%B5 %D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BA.
            1. ada
              0
              21 February 2024 17: 09
              Yes, there really are a lot of interesting things in the public domain. Not expected. Thank you.
              An interesting article about the work of VK “Features of the mobilization work of military commissariats in the initial period of the Great Patriotic War” on Mil.ru for the 80th anniversary of the Second World War, it is clear that information was disclosed previously only in specialized literature.
  21. +3
    14 February 2024 08: 49
    This example should not be seen as a call to destroy cities, but as a cry to destroy communications, not necessarily in cities.
    There is a version that for this it was not at all necessary to erase the entire historical center of the city into dust, but to bomb its exits. The maps are clear, of course, with zones, but half of the residential buildings were uninhabitable after the bombing. And 25 thousand civilians killed is also not in dispute. And he didn’t ask the USSR to bomb Dresden, unlike Berlin or Leipzig.
  22. +3
    14 February 2024 08: 50
    I agree with the author on almost everything, but... the reasons for the “deadlock” such as
    - indecisiveness of the military leadership in making the decisions necessary for the offensive (hello to the promotion of sycophants, sycophants, “general’s” sons to leadership positions...
    - the resulting slowness in all aspects of combat activity.
    The reason for all this is the WRONG approach to the selection of promising managers, mistakes and “betrayal” of personnel officers!
  23. BAI
    +3
    14 February 2024 08: 59
    1.
    Yes, Russian troops left Kherson, but not because they were driven out of there by force, but so as not to expose themselves to the risk of being left without communications in the rear.

    It is the same.
    2. They were silent about positional warfare, because the operation itself was based on the NGS theory of maneuver warfare (from 2008, if I’m not mistaken). This theory turned out to be wrong, and accordingly the plans for the war were wrong. But they couldn’t admit it.
    3. The Kharkov offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is stupidly pro.sr.li. Only the lazy did not write about the concentration of forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Kharkov. And no measures were taken. And the Ukrainians not only concentrated their forces. They managed to suppress the communications of the Russian Armed Forces and everything that was there was left without control and succumbed to panic (with the exception of 2-3 riot police units). Led by the valiant Kantemirov Guards Division.
    1. BAI
      +1
      14 February 2024 09: 05
      Even Arestovich (on our Russian TV) broadcast that a new offensive would begin there, with new tactics, which would be a surprise for Russia. And they did nothing in response.
    2. +2
      14 February 2024 12: 15
      And no measures were taken.


      Was. But the reserves because of the highmars were too far in the East, and as a result, the Ukrainian Armed Forces were stopped right near Svatovo-Kremennaya.
    3. 0
      14 February 2024 13: 44
      Quote: BAI
      They were silent about positional warfare, because the operation itself was based on the NGS theory of maneuver warfare

      It’s just that Putin gave Gerasimov resources 3 times less than needed. If Gerasimov had the required amount of resources, and Putin had placed his bets not on political losers, but on the communists of Ukraine, then even the military leadership of the Taliban believed that there was a good chance to complete the SVO in a week.
  24. +4
    14 February 2024 09: 34
    Among other things, the reason for the positional deadlock is also the inability to ensure the delivery of necessary supplies due to the stretching of communications. This applies to all levels. From the tactical - the assaults took the opornik in the forest regiment, the Kalich infantry went to the fortifications, sat down there, but the supply of ammo, food, water, building materials for strengthening the dugouts is dragging on its own. This is where vog bombers come into play. In the tactical rear last fall and winter, Baba Yagas committed atrocities on communications lines. We were hunting for single cars. You don't muck much either. Well, strategic - from HIMARS strikes on warehouses to the actions of the DRG (mining, including the use of UAVs - used all the time on the front end)

    Those. We need unmanned means of delivery to LBS - self-running carts.

    Further. There is reconnaissance and defeat. “We have the means, but we don’t have the brains.” The main problem of the SVO is the lack of a single information field that allows multiplexing reconnaissance assets and creating reconnaissance and fire contours for the task in real time. Well, and the wildest centralization of combat control. The CP commands a trio of assaults. The division advances on the platoon support. Inability to use existing tools. KBB are trying to occupy D-30, and Hyacinths are working on LBS (
  25. +6
    14 February 2024 09: 38
    A separate song COMMUNICATION - there is plenty of digital. Only in my dugout, Argut, Azart, Aniton, Khitera, Kenwood analog. Well, you go to work with 2-3 stations.
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    2. +4
      14 February 2024 12: 13
      This is not an indication that the connection is properly organized.
      The American commander has ONE radio station.
      For everything.
  26. +4
    14 February 2024 09: 39
    So, this is the practice of trench warfare, Mr. Timokhin(
  27. +2
    14 February 2024 09: 51
    On the other hand, do they need “deep breakthroughs”? Maybe the practice of "Artillery offensive" with grounding of everything that moves on the LBS and in the near rear?
    1. +2
      14 February 2024 15: 24
      Well, we tried this tactic in the summer of 22nd. They fired tens of thousands of shells a day. As a result, this did not affect the combat effectiveness of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and we ran out of ammunition.
  28. -1
    14 February 2024 11: 15
    A lot of meaningless words. Would you like me to give you a recipe for getting out of a positional deadlock? Without lasers, combat robots and AI? For free.
    So, there is an old phrase: “with a concentration of artillery of 200 barrels per km of front, they report not about the enemy, but about the kilometers traveled,” something like this.
    What to do today? Obviously, concentrating 200 guns on 1 km of front is equivalent to burying them under the attacks of the enemy.
    But what if we concentrate 200 attack UAVs armed with anti-tank guns with cumulative and high-explosive warheads, plus a hundred lancets, plus 3, 4 hundred fpv? I believe that the front will be broken through.
    A wonderful miracle, a wondrous miracle. All that remains is to produce it all (more than a couple of months) and use it.
    1. +1
      14 February 2024 12: 12
      “with an artillery concentration of 200 barrels per km of front, they report not about the enemy, but about the kilometers traveled”


      First day near Avdeevka.
      As it is.
      True, there were not 200 trunks per km, but they literally demolished everything.
      How many days has the assault been going on there?

      N-unteachable.
      1. 0
        17 February 2024 14: 22
        That is, your perception of information is so bad that you didn’t understand that in my message I rejected the option with guns and used it only as an example?
    2. +1
      14 February 2024 13: 49
      Quote: Vincent Price
      “with an artillery concentration of 200 barrels per km of front, they report not about the enemy, but about the kilometers traveled”

      Given that the enemy has drones and long-range, high-precision MLRS of the Khmyers type, already during the concentration, half of the guns will be destroyed.
    3. +1
      14 February 2024 18: 22
      In WW1, the French and British fired at German positions for days, the consumption of armored vehicles reached 5 tons per meter, later this tactic was abandoned due to low efficiency.
  29. 0
    14 February 2024 11: 28
    The main reason for a positional deadlock is the equality of forces, the lack of reserves for developing success or compensating for failure.

    1. +1
      14 February 2024 12: 11
      If this were only the case, then in history there would not have been a single successful offensive operation against a numerically superior enemy.
      And they were.
      1. +2
        14 February 2024 12: 49
        Quote: timokhin-aa
        If this were only the case, then in history there would not have been a single successful offensive operation against a numerically superior enemy.
        And they were.


        An offensive operation is possible, but it must have a goal, a strategically significant goal.

        Napoleon's highly successful offensive operation in 1812 led to disaster.

        What I mean is that a separate, even successful, offensive operation under our conditions will only bring us defeat in the future - under current conditions, since it will lead to escalation, which is extremely unprofitable and very risky for us.
  30. +2
    14 February 2024 13: 45
    For me, this is a rather pointless sheet for one simple reason. The root of all the “dead ends” of this war is an ideological dead end - this war was proclaimed by Putin primarily not as a war for territory, but as a war aimed at removing from the political field of Ukraine some specific human resources (denazification) and the destruction of specific material means (demilitarization). Because it was assumed that the level of superiority of the RF Armed Forces over the Armed Forces of Ukraine would allow this to be done a) quickly, b) effectively and c) without serious human losses on both sides. This also includes fairy tales about “one people” and a defective state. If I had run the original plan with Yanukovych at a low start in Minsk on the second day of the conflict, I doubt that even the LDPR would have been accepted into the Russian Federation, not to mention Zaporozhye and the Kherson region. In fact, it turned out that this very “level of superiority” turned out to be very much overestimated, and its real value turned out to be absolutely insufficient for this “general” to solve the task. And the citizens of Ukraine for the most part do not love Zelensky so much, but they want to rush into Putin’s arms even less. As a result, Vladimir Vladimirovich was faced with a choice - either publicly admit his strategic miscalculation or pretend that everything was going according to that very “plan”. He chose the second option. The problem of the last two years is that the territory of Ukraine itself, as a physical surface area, has not become of any value to Putin. In any case, the image effect of its acquisition will be minimal - simply due to the fact that everyone who, in principle, could have long since united and united in support. And this effect certainly will not cover up the negative background from losses associated with an active offensive and, quite possibly, new waves of mobilizations. Not to mention purely practical problems - financing of new territories, their integration, etc. This also includes the risk of starting any large-scale actions, associated with the complete absence of strategists at the level of Zhukov, Konev, Rokossovsky and others among the top of the Russian Defense Ministry who are capable of operating offensive operations on the scale of armies and fronts. It is no longer possible to openly initiate negotiations even on freezing the situation - there is no sign of denazification, only Peskov saw demilitarization. All that remains is to continue to maintain the current status quo, without making active attempts to change it. Drones, high-mars, etc. against this background are absolutely secondary.
    1. 0
      14 February 2024 15: 02
      Yeah, maybe it will resolve itself somehow. But it’s unlikely.
    2. -1
      14 February 2024 15: 48
      I agree, one of the main reasons is the lack of a commander suitable for the tasks. VVP looked at our generals - well, screw him, we’ll sit on the defensive.
  31. 0
    14 February 2024 14: 23
    What is the point of the article? And what exactly needs to be done according to Alexander?
    Otherwise it’s just an incoherent bunch of words with no conclusion...
    1. +1
      14 February 2024 14: 49
      The article is a statement of the problem.
  32. 0
    14 February 2024 15: 02
    The article is interesting and informative, but for some reason the author did not note some obvious things!
    For example, that the qualitative superiority of one’s troops can also be achieved through the degradation of the enemy’s troops, when a professional, motivated army is inevitably replaced by an unmotivated, mobilized one. request And superiority in communications can be obtained by turning off Starlink through political means... And so on! But, again, the article is very well written! love
  33. 0
    14 February 2024 15: 45
    Everything written can be fit into 2-3 phrases, you need: superiority in means (this is a little easier) and a competent commander (this is more difficult - for those who don’t know, a competent commander in such a theater of military operations can be born one or two in a 10-year period and maybe he won’t be born, sorry, talent is needed here).
  34. 0
    14 February 2024 15: 54
    There is complete confusion in American regulations regarding tempo.

    If you are not familiar with these documents, then yes, there is confusion.
    And if you open ADP 3-90 and look at the third chapter (section 3-10), then there is no confusion.
    1. 0
      15 February 2024 09: 57
      Well, how is it not:

      3-10. Tempo is the relative speed and rhythm of military operations over time with respect to the enemy
      (ADP 3-0). Controlling tempo is necessary to retain the initiative. An attack that achieves results more
      quickly than enemy forces can respond disrupts enemy plans. Maintaining a high tempo requires initiative
      on the part of subordinates within their commander's intent. Mission orders allow subordinates the flexibility
      to react swiftly to opportunities and threats and maintain a high tempo.
      3-11. Commanders adjust tempo continuously. The flexibility of any tactical situation, sustainment realities,
      or enemy actions affect tempo. Rapid tempo demands quick decisions informed by accurate running
      estimates. Maintaining rapid tempo continually creates opportunities and reduces friendly vulnerabilities.
      Maintaining rapid tempo also denies enemy forces the chance to rest or synchronize the employment of them
      combat power.
      3-12. By increasing tempo, commanders maintain momentum. They plan for rapid transitions and ensure
      sustainment operations do not prevent premature culmination of the offense. Attackers shift combat power
      quickly to widen penetrations, exploit exposed flanks, and reinforce successes. Friendly forces attack in depth
      with fires and maneuver to destroy or disrupt an enemy commander's ability to command and control enemy
      The Offense Forces. Commanders never permit enemy forces to recover from the shock of an initial assault. They prevent defenders from massing effects against the friendly decisive operation.

      Now, based on this text, tell me how to calculate it.
      1. 0
        15 February 2024 10: 34
        Now, based on this text, tell me how to calculate it.

        Hello, hello
        Tell me, why should the text that defines the term “rate of operation” tell how to plan an operation? The point was that you could not find an army definition among foreign non-comrades that would allow you to understand what “tempo” is.
        If you want to “calculate” it, then you need to know that branch of algebra called “game theory”. To be able to understand/create mathematical models. Literature (both ours and theirs) on mathematical modeling of combat operations is available online in the public domain. You will find it without any problems. If you don’t find it, write a private message and I’ll look in my library. But I repeat, if you are not a mathematician, then it will be useless to you.
        Below is a small example from similar literature.
  35. 0
    14 February 2024 16: 26
    Good article, I read it with great pleasure, I especially liked about the “pace”, I would note two points that were not taken into account in the analysis, the first is the factor of assistance to Ukraine from the “US and NATO”, which is essentially an untouchable rear, the second is the information and psychological component of any of our Ukrainians calmly interrupt their success with small special operations. Therefore, the old classical methods (like 200 trunks per 1 km) do not work on their own; an integrated approach is needed.
  36. 0
    14 February 2024 17: 34
    It seems to me that something is missing. It is the role of artillery and front-line aviation that has been missed.
    Defenses are cracked by artillery or now drones, as a type of artillery, but artillery itself is the main means of defense.
    That is, to crack the defense you need both artillery itself and competent counter-battery warfare.
    During the Great Patriotic War, the main means of combating howitzer batteries in the depths of enemy defenses was attack aircraft. Now it is carried out by Lancets. An effective means of combating enemy artillery will be found and there will be successes.
    And I would like to hope that the enemy will someday, after all, run out of mines and missiles for MLRS and MANPADS, the supply of which at the moment seems endless.
  37. 0
    14 February 2024 18: 04
    I prefer the definition of the tempo of the operation given in the work of R.A. Ismailova, S.B. Pereslegina. Why didn't you like it?
    1. 0
      15 February 2024 09: 58
      There are dozens of definitions, I read what they write.
      The most important disadvantage is its inapplicability in calculations.
  38. DO
    -2
    14 February 2024 18: 20
    I read the article and comments. To win the SVO, the following goals emerge:
    1) The primary goal of the North Military District is the liberation of the territories of Ukraine from Nazi rule and their annexation to Russia. For, as the Soviet experience in Ukraine after the Second World War shows, without the direct action of Russian laws on the ground, Ukronazism will not eradicate itself.
    It is clear that today this goal is achieved by the offensive actions of the Russian army. What kind of offensive is possible - squeezing out the enemy, or deep breakthroughs - is clearer to current military experts who have experience in the Northern Military District. On which sectors of the front is a question for them. If we attack from Belarus, then Russian and Belarusian politicians must first come to an agreement here.

    For a successful offensive, military science requires:
    2a) Isolation of enemy units from the supply of weapons and ammunition, and from maneuvers of manpower and equipment. Russian missiles and Geraniums have been operating against stationary targets in the Ukrainian rear for a long time.
    In terms of mobile objects, the Lancets performed well. However, the problem remains of hitting mobile targets of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the deep rear - echelons of vehicles transporting military cargo to the front line. Since the Lancets themselves do not fly hundreds of kilometers, it is necessary to accelerate the creation of Lancet carriers (possibly a swarm of Lancets-1, since the targets are not armored) - long-range MLRS missiles with Lancets in place of the warhead, and jet drones (for example, the Grom UAV, or an unmanned version of the Su -75, and/or modernization of old fighters, perhaps MiG-25 or Yak-130, into drones - flying along fixed routes, breaking through enemy air defenses at high speed, minimum altitude and with anti-aircraft maneuver). Since it is problematic to organize a video communication channel deep behind enemy lines, Lancets can be purely autonomous with images of targets recorded in memory, without a communication channel with the operator.
    For radar reconnaissance of the enemy’s rear, today there is no other solution visible except for the Sych UKP-RL suspended containers, and as a carrier - Su-34, and/or old Su-27 modernized into drones.
    For optical and infrared reconnaissance of the rear of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and the necessary radio signal repeaters, in addition to existing reconnaissance models, it is advisable to accelerate the creation of “pseudo-satellites” - gliders with solar batteries patrolling at an altitude of about 20 km.
    2b) During an offensive, the classic density of 200 barrels per kilometer in the northeast military district is contraindicated, due to high-precision weapons of destruction of the enemy. It will be necessary to limit artillery to the minimum necessary to destroy reconnoitered dugouts and other fortified enemy targets. It remains to compensate for the lack of artillery and MLRS with an abundance of drones - Lancets/Scalpels, Geraniums, FPV, tactical missiles launched from afar.
    2c) Aviation + gliding bombs. According to the experience of the Northern Military District, long-range air defense systems of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from an “ambush” can inflict losses on Russian carriers of glide bombs. Therefore, it is advisable for our aircraft to have cover in the form of two heavy UAVs - one of which carries a passive electronic reconnaissance container "Sych" UKP-PT and detects the activation of the air defense missile system radar, and the second, connected by a radio channel to the first, a pair of anti-radar missiles, the missile is launched immediately after detecting the radar .
    The task of remote bombing at known coordinates is quite feasible, for example, with the old MiG-29, modernized into drones.

    3) Network-centric communications, based not only on walkie-talkies for personnel on the front line, but also on a digital network based on fiber-optic communication lines (including field cables), a cellular network, base stations and repeaters located on UAVs.

    Summary. To ensure effective offensive actions in the Northern Military District, first of all, the hard work of the government, the industry of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation, and the purchase of necessary imports is necessary. Otherwise, given the lack of the above-mentioned weapons, the army will have nothing with which to break through the layered defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    1. -1
      14 February 2024 21: 16
      Judging by the echo from the Soviet army, ours were going to break through NATO defenses mainly with tactical nuclear weapons and tanks in combination, of course using all types of troops. Gurulev, by the way, talked about this. They shut him up. I can't hear anything now.
      1. DO
        0
        14 February 2024 21: 40
        So, is Russia already directly at war with NATO? And the escalation reached the use of nuclear weapons?
        Today it seems like nonsense. God grant that tomorrow and the day after tomorrow such talk remains nonsense.
      2. -3
        14 February 2024 21: 55
        On this resource, serious consideration of the use of nuclear weapons in the interests of conducting operations is taboo! The experience of the effective use of nuclear weapons during the Second World War from the point of view of SAVING approximately a million lives of the Allies and five to seven million lives of the Japanese is anathema in the spirit of pacifist propaganda.
        Another thing is that the use of nuclear weapons WITHOUT DECISIVE MEASURES to defeat/occupation is an act of barbarity and genocide. In addition, with the use of nuclear weapons, in the next decade we will be faced with both the collapse of the policy of non-proliferation of nuclear weapons and the last hopes for solving problems diplomatically within the framework of the so-called. "international law".
        1. DO
          0
          15 February 2024 00: 40
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          On this resource, serious consideration of the use of nuclear weapons in the interests of conducting operations is taboo!
          Although this is not always the case, such a taboo on the part of the editors and moderators of topwar, I personally consider it their universal duty. For no one has canceled the “Overton window”.

          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          The experience of the effective use of nuclear weapons during the Second World War from the point of view of SAVING approximately a million lives of the Allies and five to seven million lives of the Japanese is anathema in the spirit of pacifist propaganda.
          Another thing is that the use of nuclear weapons WITHOUT DECISIVE MEASURES for defeat/occupation is an act of barbarity and genocide.
          You somehow forget that the American nuclear bombings of the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 were unanswered for the banal reason of the US monopoly on nuclear weapons at that moment.
          Today, the use of US nuclear weapons against Russia is guaranteed to cause a symmetrical nuclear response on US territory, because the surviving part of the Russian leadership, like the majority of the population of the Russian Federation, will have no other way to stay alive.
          1. 0
            15 February 2024 06: 02
            Nuclear weapons are too serious a factor. so that its use by the parties to the conflict can be described by a naive formula: they used it for us (for what purpose, in what way, on what objects, in what quantity is ignored), and we, in response to all those who remained, turned them into dust. The latter is reminiscent of the “retaliation strikes” of Germany in 1944 - 1945. Even if we assume that such a marvelous plan is feasible, it does not describe what will happen after the depletion of nuclear weapons: genocide on the losing side, continuation of the war with conventional weapons, a truce under international control?
            The Americans professed two fundamental concepts: a disarming first strike and acceptable damage. Hence the preparation of a preventive strike from nearby areas to reduce reaction time, the promotion of treaties on the reduction of strategic nuclear weapons (reducing the number of targets of a preventive strike and weakening a possible response) and the development of missile defense with the removal of boundaries as close as possible to the missile launch areas.
            The proposal of some generals to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine is really grist to the mill of the so-called. limited nuclear war in Europe. When our forces and means are wasted in the confrontation with European “partners”, our strategic potential is seriously thinned out of the operational-tactical zone, and the Continent (as they call the territory of America) will again find itself in the zone of “acceptable damage”.
            Today, the possibility of effectively using nuclear weapons in the current conflict has already been lost. And the costs of such a step far outweigh the benefits of a possible quick, victorious completion of the special operation.
            1. DO
              0
              15 February 2024 08: 04
              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              Nuclear weapons are too serious a factor. so that its use by the parties to the conflict can be described by a naive formula: they used it for us (for what purpose, in what way, on what objects, in what quantity is ignored), and we, in response to all those who remained, turned them into dust.
              Yes, nuclear weapons are too serious a factor. That is why it will either not be used at all, or, if reason fails, nuclear escalation will be gradual, symmetrical and with the preservation of the negotiation process between Russia and the United States via the “hotline”.

              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              ... what will happen after the depletion of nuclear weapons: genocide on the losing side, continuation of the war with conventional weapons, a truce under international control?
              Only one aspect of the hypothetical nuclear madness can be predicted with certainty. The United States, having received a nuclear strike on its territory, will completely lose its current position as a superpower dominating planet Earth and will turn into an ordinary regional power. The third party that avoids nuclear strikes on its territory will win.

              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              The proposal of some generals to use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine is really grist to the mill of the so-called. limited nuclear war in Europe.
              What generals' proposals? Please provide links!

              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              Today, the possibility of effectively using nuclear weapons in the current conflict has already been lost. And the costs of such a step far outweigh the benefits of a possible quick, victorious completion of the special operation.
              If you are talking about the use of nuclear weapons by the Russian side, then there is no greater stupidity than using nuclear weapons on the territory of Ukraine, which, after the completion of the Northern Military District, will be completely annexed to Russia.
            2. -2
              15 February 2024 14: 02
              I live in Belgorod, which is where the Czech MLRS is firing. Two hours ago (15.02.24/12/00 10-17) there was another fire raid. According to conversations between the MLRS Alder and the Czech Vampire. We ended up in Magnit. According to preliminary data, XNUMX were killed and XNUMX were injured, and the data is not final. There are hits in other places too. Hypothesis - they fired at the city thermal power plant, but our missiles were shot down and they fell. This doesn't tell you anything. To deprive the village of Kharkov or Dnepropetrovsk and its population of electricity is an incorrect children's game with response and response to response, etc. As a result, the population will suffer almost entirely. The response must be super radical, so that Europe will shudder, but not at the expense of the death of civilians. For example, a powerful stratospheric-tropospheric thermonuclear explosion, so that glass would fly out in almost all of Kyiv, but people would remain unharmed. It will be painful, but not fatal. In this case, the electromagnetic pulse will damage many electronics. And then a massive air raid and the destruction of bridges and important military installations. This will not be a war with NATO. They are not fighting with us, but they are fighting with the wrong hands of Ukrainians. Let the Independent Party pay for its games with the West. Many here are afraid of a nuclear war with the West. Western lovers of comfort will not get into a nuclear war. Your shirt is closer to your body. And a nuclear strike will scare everyone and show that Russia will stop at nothing. In addition, this will save tens of thousands of lives of our soldiers who are pouring their heads into the Donbass fortified areas.
              1. DO
                +1
                15 February 2024 18: 48
                Quote: Alexey Lantukh
                I live in Belgorod...
                ... The response must be super radical, so that Europe will shudder, but not at the expense of the death of civilians. For example, a powerful stratospheric-tropospheric thermonuclear explosion, so that glass would fly out in almost all of Kyiv, but people would remain unharmed. It will be painful, but not fatal. In this case, the electromagnetic pulse will damage many electronics. ...
                ... Western lovers of comfort will not get into a nuclear war. Your shirt is closer to your body.
                First. Are you an expert in the details of the damaging factors of a nuclear explosion? A high-altitude air THERMONUCLEAR explosion will break the glass and that's it? What about light radiation? What about ionizing gamma radiation? What about radioactive fallout?
                Second. The use of a powerful thermonuclear charge in Kyiv will free the hands of the West, which will absolutely supply tactical nuclear weapons to the Ukrainian Armed Forces one way or another. And the Ukrainian Armed Forces are very likely to use tactical nuclear weapons on Russian territory. According to the same Belgorod. Therefore, doubts prevail that you are really writing from Belgorod, and not from a place much more distant from Ukraine.
                1. 0
                  15 February 2024 21: 45
                  Read about the testing of the Tsar Bomba on Novaya Zemlya, as well as about airborne nuclear explosions. As for the supply of tactical nuclear weapons to Kyiv, this is very unlikely, because this threatens a third world war, and the United States does not want to turn into a second-rate power, since in this case China will win.
  39. 0
    14 February 2024 18: 55
    Although I do not have a military education, I would like to note in this regard. As long as the enemy has reserves, it is in principle impossible to carry out any breakthrough of the front. As mentioned above, in the Iraq-Iran war it would not have been possible to carry out a maneuver; the qualitative composition of the forces is of great importance. That is, if the Iranians had better equipment and trained soldiers, the Iraqis would not have succeeded. It's gone. In view of this, it turns out that Saddam took advantage of the situation.
  40. 0
    14 February 2024 21: 59
    This is the truth......And not until 15 fat-assed bosses give the go-ahead to open fire from the only long-range self-propelled gun.
  41. 0
    14 February 2024 22: 35
    The problem of the North Military District is the very strange behavior of the country's top military and political leadership. The armies are NOT allowed to fight and win, they are kept on some kind of leash: fight here, don’t fight here. This is all reminiscent of a theater stage where the actor is obliged to play according to the script, but not to play too much, so to speak. Who came up with this scenario and why is our country involved in all this disgrace????
    1. 0
      14 February 2024 23: 23
      Who came up with it - obviously, the only question is why.
  42. 0
    14 February 2024 23: 22
    Nevertheless, one of the principles of Soviet and later Russian censorship is that the awareness of Russian citizens should not be related to what the enemy knows, and even if combat orders for Russian units and formations can be downloaded from the Internet, write about them in the Russian media it is forbidden.


    Oddly enough, but this is correct. Everything that the enemy published could be lies, disinformation, an attempt to obtain information in the form of a comment, and so on. Until the end of the war (at least) no such publications should be made. Because "informing citizens" about the military's strategic and operational plans and actions during war is not a reasonably important task.
  43. -1
    14 February 2024 23: 59
    A non-standard question for the author regarding this thesis:
    Impossibility of bypass.
    The defense must be impossible to bypass.

    Since the beginning of the Northern Military District, we have had a region of continuous (or not very continuous) defense, a front line in the north, near Kharkov. There the front line, the line of trenches from the south, abutted the Russia-Ukraine border, near the village of Cossack Lopan (the edge of the front is circled in yellow on the map).

    I was constantly haunted by a mystery: how did our northernmost battalion commander/regiment commander prepare his northern (right) flank on the border?? Did you bend it (make the front face north)? On the contrary, did it bend further along the border of the Russian Federation with a front to the south? Did you create a defense center there?
    What guaranteed that the Ukrainians would not bypass the edge of his defense from the north? Won't they do coverage?

    And the same thing about the Ukrainian northernmost section of the front? What was the northernmost battalion commander/regimental commander doing there? Where are the guarantees that the Russians will not bypass his left flank across the state border to the north/west?
    Or was there some kind of agreement here?
    1. +1
      15 February 2024 09: 34
      I wrote about the need to attack here, bypassing Kharkov from the north, and further))
    2. +1
      15 February 2024 10: 01
      There, without invading the old territory, it is impossible to make a detour, and this is for ukrov under a political ban or self-prohibition.
      1. 0
        15 February 2024 23: 57
        This is exactly what my question is about!
        Why is this a self-prohibition or a political ban for Ukrainians? Who exactly is prohibiting?
        Why were we so confident that this ban/self-ban works and that it is reliable? Where are the guarantees?

        After all, there was a serious demonstrative invasion of the old territory of the Russian Federation:
        https://www.rbc.ru/politics/22/05/2023/646b504a9a794766063e3765 - Белгородская область, Грайворон, 22 мая 2023 года.

        Even two, if you count the frivolous too: https://www.rbc.ru/politics/02/03/2023/6400cc1e9a79477cf1059a73 - Bryansk region, March 2, 2023.

        And immediately a follow-up question: when they made the decision to retreat from Kyiv, Chernigov and other cities in the north-east of Ukraine, why did they decide to retreat exactly to the border of the Russian Federation? Where was the confidence that ukry ALSO they will stop at the border, will not go further? What were the guarantees?
        And why not stop in some places a little further from the border, at convenient boundaries (rivers, streams, ditches, swamps, ravines, on the edges of forests, groves)? So that it would be more convenient to hold the defense and detect attempts by the DRG to penetrate, so that it wouldn’t happen like with the border near our village of Lyubechane - when everything in the village lay out in full view, right under the wooded hill, which is on the Ukrainian side:
      2. 0
        12 March 2024 21: 35
        Somehow this political ban or self-ban did not work today (12/03/2024):
        https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/2024/03/12/22534117.shtml
  44. -4
    15 February 2024 00: 37
    Oh yes Timokha, oh yes... well, you understand! If only he understood the art of war, at least at the squad level, you see, the captured Zelensky would have been dragged long ago and the SVO would have ended long ago! And so, we are all good at the epistolary genre!
    1. +1
      15 February 2024 10: 01
      And nothing of substance, right, cheap?
  45. -1
    15 February 2024 09: 28
    Here! Here are the answers to the questions that I was looking for from the very beginning of this positional impasse, and to which I received answers in the spirit of “well, you go yourself”, armchair strategist, etc. But I was just asking - explain where the maneuver war has disappeared, why we either cannot or do not want to wage it? This is what I needed, this article.
    I am not a military man, as they said here, but I intuitively understood two fundamental points that the author makes.
    1. I have written more than once that we need a means that will prevent reserves from maneuvering in the operational rear, but I thought that it should be such a high-precision mass ground-launched missile (see my comment on the article about the unmanned brigade)
    2. I somehow intuitively almost understood the concept of tempo, a key concept that the author not only formulated, but also explained how it works using the example of chess! Exactly!
    Somehow six months ago, on social networks, where all this is discussed, I wrote that our troops need to go to the rear of the enemy’s Donbass grouping, bypass it, and then go and go forward, maintaining a pace of attack that simply won’t let the enemy has time to deploy his units on the defensive, in the path of our advancing group.
    1. -3
      15 February 2024 09: 53
      A big offensive means big losses, primarily human ones.
      1. +2
        15 February 2024 09: 58
        When I gave somewhere a historical example of the ratio of losses, from June 22.06.41, 1941 until the Germans captured Minsk in XNUMX, for example, I was of course accused of sympathizing with Nazism, ruthlessness towards civilians (for some reason), etc., etc.) )) We don’t have the concept of abstraction in such things, but we need to study any military experience. It is purely military, not propaganda
        1. -1
          15 February 2024 18: 09
          And where was the trench warfare? The front never stayed anywhere for more than a couple of weeks, and even then rarely. The exceptions are Odessa and Leningrad, for obvious reasons.
          1. +2
            15 February 2024 18: 16
            So there was precisely the offensive that you are talking about -
            Quote: TermNachTER
            A big offensive means big losses, primarily human ones.

            But I want to say that this statement is not always true. It also happened that the offensive was large, and the results, and the losses of the attacking side were much less than could be expected with such a scale of action
            1. 0
              15 February 2024 22: 08
              Alas, statistics is a merciless science. With a large offensive, the attackers cannot have small losses. GDP is absolutely right, it is much easier and cheaper, in terms of human losses, to sit them out. Yes, there will be no beautiful, loud victories, such as Stalingrad or the Kursk Bulge, but there will be no terrible losses.
              1. 0
                16 February 2024 10: 46
                Trench warfare is slow, and during a major offensive the army moves 30-50 km. per day. So I can assume that the result achieved with the “squeezing out” tactics in a year would have been achieved in 3-4 days of a major offensive in a maneuver war. And then how to count the losses here, there for a year of trench warfare, here for 3-4 days. Will they be comparable? More likely. But it is much more important here to evaluate the result and the enemy’s losses. Because a maneuver war, if conducted competently, means large encirclements and the liberation of a large territory. Sometimes the enemy is forced to withdraw large forces from emerging pockets, sometimes they are surrounded and captured. At the same time, the “winning” side suffers minimal losses, that is, the enemy is defeated, surrounded, surrenders, resistance in the pockets is suppressed by artillery and aviation.
                And sometimes the result of a major offensive is not even operational, but strategic! A typical example is how Romania was taken out of the war, that is, it generally went over to the side of the anti-Hitler coalition and turned its arms against the Germans. A few days after the start of our major offensive. There is a book about this by General Friesner
                1. 0
                  16 February 2024 14: 06
                  The current war is significantly different from the Second World War. Ensure a safe concentration of 1500 artillery barrels over 10 km. front + the corresponding amount of used fuel, fuel, etc. - it won’t work. All sorts of “Himers”, UAVs and satellite reconnaissance will not work.
                  1. +1
                    16 February 2024 14: 45
                    But we have analogs, that is, technical superiority is leveled out, at least we are not inferior, the question is why we cannot use it
                    1. 0
                      16 February 2024 17: 47
                      Russia is at war with NATO - it is very difficult and difficult. And this is not a war for one day. This is a war for a new world order, and it will not end when Ukraine ends.
  46. -1
    15 February 2024 09: 52
    As always - a lot of text and little meaning))) a positional deadlock is possible when your rear (military-industrial complex) is relatively safe. Considering the presence of “calibers”, “daggers”, etc., it is a matter of time before all this is destroyed, with all that it entails. Some in the West are already openly saying that Putin has already won, all that remains is to “sit out” the collective West.
  47. 0
    15 February 2024 13: 04
    Quote: timokhin-aa
    And nothing of substance, right, cheap?

    Oh sorry! I’m just wondering, did you have to crawl under machine-gun fire on your belly? And to clear the trenches from the enemy who has settled in them, just not like this: “Guys, give up, you will live!”, but you burst in and hit everything that is still moving and showing signs of life. Because there is no time to find out whether your enemy is wounded or is pretending to shoot a line in your back! That’s why sometimes you stuff a corpse with bullets, just in case, if it seems like it’s twitching. And if you see a dugout, a blocked gap, or just a hole in the ground, everything that can kill and maim flies there. Sometimes they used a four hundred gram block of TNT, a canister with fuel and lubricants and a TNT block, and a “Bumblebee”! This is how we usually got out of a positional deadlock!
  48. 0
    15 February 2024 13: 27
    Bombing of Dresden: Map


    On the website of the city of Dresden there is
    sections with an interactive map on this topic.


    https://www.dresden.de/de/leben/stadtportrait/stadtgeschichte/ereignisse/03/historikerkommission/kartenwerk/schadensgebiete.php

    https://www.dresden.de/de/leben/stadtportrait/stadtgeschichte/ereignisse/03/historikerkommission/kartenwerk/bergungsorte.php
  49. 0
    15 February 2024 15: 17
    I live in Belgorod, which is where the Czech MLRS is firing. Two hours ago (15.02.24/12/00 10-17) there was another fire raid. According to conversations between the MLRS Alder and the Czech Vampire. We ended up in Magnit. According to preliminary data, XNUMX were killed and XNUMX were injured, and the data is not final. There are hits in other places too. Hypothesis - they fired at the city thermal power plant, but our missiles were shot down and they fell. This doesn't tell you anything. To deprive the village of Kharkov or Dnepropetrovsk and its population of electricity is an incorrect children's game with response and response to response, etc. As a result, the population will suffer almost entirely. The response must be super radical, so that Europe will shudder, but not at the expense of the death of civilians. For example, a powerful stratospheric-tropospheric thermonuclear explosion, so that glass would fly out in almost all of Kyiv, but people would remain unharmed. It will be painful, but not fatal. In this case, the electromagnetic pulse will damage many electronics. And then a massive air raid and the destruction of bridges and important military installations. This will not be a war with NATO. They are not fighting with us, but they are fighting with the wrong hands of Ukrainians. Let the Independent Party pay for its games with the West. Many here are afraid of a nuclear war with the West. Western lovers of comfort will not get into a nuclear war. Your shirt is closer to your body. And a nuclear strike will scare everyone and show that Russia will stop at nothing. In addition, this will save tens of thousands of lives of our soldiers who are pouring their heads into the Donbass fortified areas.


    This is about "And speaking of Dresden." The Anglo-Saxons do not feel sorry for anyone, neither Germans, nor Ukrainians, and especially Russians.
  50. -1
    15 February 2024 15: 25
    The problem is, IMHO, that there are no Marshals of Victory in Russia now. Afghanistan, Chechnya... where else? - unvictorious wars. And the unvictorious marshals fight accordingly. Therefore, let us trust in the Almighty.
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  52. 0
    15 February 2024 19: 28
    What is said is generally true, but there are nuances regarding the Northern Military District, this is a characteristic configuration of the front that allows the Armed Forces of Ukraine to be one step ahead when transferring reserves, a mistake at the beginning of the entire Northern Military District with a lack of forces and means to try to “embrace the immense” dispersion of forces - the direction to Sumy and Kharkov is unnecessary .
  53. 0
    16 February 2024 18: 36
    You see, around 2026, Russian military thought will notice all this.

    Well, who are you flattering... :)
    Firstly, they have no time for this...
    Secondly, they have no time for this at all...
    Thoughts there about others, about eternal values...
  54. 0
    16 February 2024 18: 51
    higher than the rate of transfer of reserves by the defending enemy to the place of breakthrough and their deployment for entry into battle or battle.
    It is easy to see that there are two solutions here - you need to either break through much faster, or slow down the transfer of enemy reserves. Or both together.

    For some reason, it is not said at all about the PRESENCE of this reserve...
    He may not even exist...
    The same SVO: in the “Lugansk” direction, ours began to “pressure”, the Ukrainians were withdrawn from the south and several battalions were transferred (up to a brigade)...
    Those. there are no reserves, a reshuffling is underway, it’s strange that ours in the south haven’t even “moved” in terms of “threatening” an offensive, etc.
    And the second aspect: the Ukrainians were transferred openly, a video was posted of the battalion marching along the road during the day - no reaction from our side, neither missile nor air...
    Now, in terms of drones - while troops are concentrating for a breakthrough - they will be identified and there will be no surprise, but they will be stupidly burned if the concentration is within the reach of artillery (conditionally 30 km or more) ...
    Those. “We need to break through much faster” doesn’t work anymore - they won’t have time to start...
  55. 0
    16 February 2024 19: 05
    Today it has become obvious that the most important of these measures is to prevent the enemy from transferring reserves to the attacked area - isolating the combat area.

    Again some kind of “linkage” with the SVO...
    I don’t think that the same pin to sy, on TVO of a “third” country, would be puzzled by such problems...
    It is enough for them to increase the firepower along the offensive front to the required depth, conditionally the same 30 km...
    Those. "clearing" the territory regardless of the number of enemy reserves brought in...
    And only then they brought in the “infantry” - this is their doctrine
    But they are able to provide firepower with both artillery and aviation (given their ability to suppress air defense)...
    Moreover, if necessary, they will not think long about the use of both tactical nuclear (art) and other weapons of mass incapacitation (chemical/electronic, etc.)
    So, it’s a question of the capabilities and will of the command...
    And I am more than sure that this is exactly how they will act against us...
    If something happens...
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  57. +1
    16 February 2024 22: 21
    Many thanks to the author for such a large article, rich in links. Unfortunately, I don't see this very often on topwar. I study with pleasure.

    Registered for this comment. Sincerely.
  58. 0
    17 February 2024 22: 36
    Let us formulate a condition to prevent the war from turning into a positional one - it is necessary to maintain a tempo of operations that would not give the enemy time sufficient to form a stable defense.

    In my opinion, based on the definition of tempo given by the author, the condition can be formulated more briefly:

    Let us formulate a condition that allows us to prevent the war from turning into a positional one - it is necessary to maintain a positive tempo of operations.