Nuclear war through the eyes of modern Russian science fiction writers

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Nuclear war through the eyes of modern Russian science fiction writers

One of the important problems that worried society after the Second World War was the danger of nuclear war. The image of the end of the world as a result of a man-made catastrophe, the cause of which was the struggle of states for geopolitical dominance, was repeatedly reproduced in science fiction literature of the late XNUMXth - first half of the XNUMXst century.

Modern apocalypticism is a transgenre that is developing in parallel primarily in fiction and cinema. Post-apocalypse has become an equally popular genre today. His appearance was absolutely natural.



Firstly, it is dictated by the natural desire of writers to comprehend not only the causes, but also the possible consequences of a global catastrophe.

Secondly, post-apocalyptic literature becomes a kind of completion of the traditions of dystopias, since it shows a society that has reached the “point of no return” [1].

Apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic fiction describes events that occur during a planetary catastrophe (meteor impact, nuclear war, epidemic, etc.) or shortly after it. The death of humanity from epidemics was first described in M. Shelley’s novel “The Last Man” and J. London’s story “The Scarlet Plague.” The threat of nuclear war in the mid-twentieth century stimulated the creation of many literary works and popular films about humanity forced to survive in extremely difficult conditions [4].

According to the latest scientific assessments, any large-scale military conflict involving nuclear weapons could lead to nuclear winter, and global climate change could lead to the death of most living beings. Extreme cold, high levels of radiation and widespread destruction of infrastructure will cause mass deaths from radiation exposure, starvation and disease. It is also believed that nitrogen oxides produced by the explosions will destroy the ozone layer.

In modern Russian science fiction there is no shortage of works that would describe a nuclear conflict. However, the quality of some works on this topic is quite low, for this reason books like “Metro 2033” by Glukhovsky, where outright nonsense occurs, will not be considered. The author focused on two science fiction novels, where nuclear war is described in more or less detail, and its consequences are also described in detail (and with a certain degree of reliability).

These are “To Each His Own” by Sergei Tarmashev (former GRU officer) and “Black Day” by Alexei Doronin. Both works are part of cycles, but we will not touch on subsequent books in the cycle.

Issues related, firstly, to the causes of the conflict (as the authors see it), and secondly, to what a nuclear war would actually look like and what its consequences would be, will be considered. Thirdly, the behavior of people in extreme situations.

“To each his own” by Tarmashev – nuclear war over the last oil field



The actions of Sergei Tarmashev’s novel “To Each His Own” take place in 2111, at the same time as his first book “Ancient. Catastrophe". By this time, oil and gas reserves on the planet were practically depleted. There was only one deep-sea shelf left where there was still oil, and it was the source of constant political disputes.

The author, through the mouth of one of the main characters, Anton Ovechkin (a rather vile person), explains that, despite the fact that almost all cars by that time were already running on electric motors rather than gasoline, “black gold” was still in demand. Because oil is not only gasoline and fuel, but also plastics, rubbers, tar, polyethylene, detergents, varnishes, solvents, dyes, fertilizers, plastic bottles and even medicines - for example, aspirin is made from oil, for this reason that acetylsalicylic acid is produced from phenol, and phenol is isolated from crude oil refining products. In addition, protein is made from petroleum products, which is used in food production; it replaces protein of animal origin.

Thus, humanity cannot do without oil.

Cause of nuclear war there is a struggle for scarce resources. In August 2111, the world's last oil field, located on the Pacific shelf and jointly exploited by UN member countries, was captured by terrorists. The presence of nuclear warheads in the hands of terrorists horrified the international community. While the UN Security Council was deciding how to reach a compromise, the United States single-handedly, without informing anyone, launched an assault on the shelf [2].

During the assault, the terrorists managed to detonate one of the two nuclear charges and destroy eight of the nine mining platforms. However, the reservoir of the field was not directly damaged. The states seized the shelf, announced the UN’s inability to secure the world’s only deposit, on which the economy of the entire civilization depends, and announced that they were now taking this burden upon themselves [2].

The US decision caused a storm of indignation throughout the world, and China even accused the Americans of staging a terrorist seizure with the aim of usurping the shelf. In China, they generally announced mobilization, announced that they did not recognize the usurpation of the shelf by the States, and declared that they were sending two of their planes to fly over in accordance with the norms of the UN Security Council, established even before the terrorist attack. The Americans immediately shot them down and notified that if anyone violated the twelve-mile shelf zone, the States would deprive them of the right to develop the field [2].

Next, China and the Arab Coalition sent their fleets to the shelf and promised to open fire in case of new acts of aggression from the United States. At the same time, Russia reports that Moscow will be faithful to its allied duty and in case of aggression will provide assistance to its allies, but the warships of the Russian fleet will not cross the boundaries of the twelve-mile zone.

The confrontation over the last oil fields ended with the opposing fleets exchanging nuclear strikes. Moreover, not all missiles were intended for ships - some flew towards Beijing and Tehran. This event became the “point of no return.” Soon after this, the Minister of Emergency Situations of the Russian Federation addressed the Russians with a statement about the start of the evacuation - he called on people to report to the nearest civil defense facility and have a change of clothes, a set of bed linen and dry rations with them.

One of the main characters of the novel, A. Ovechkin, like most Muscovites who followed the news, immediately, having collected the essentials, went to the nearest metro station.

Description of nuclear war itself Tarmashev devoted quite a lot of lines. First, communications and the Internet are lost in the city. Then air defense begins to work in the sky above Moscow, and somewhere far away the first explosion occurs. After this, the crowd that had gathered in line at the metro rushes down to seek salvation. A brutal stampede ensues, hundreds of people are trampled to death even before an airborne thermonuclear munition explodes directly above the Foreign Ministry skyscraper.

This is how one of the eyewitnesses in the novel describes it:

“I stood in line in the subway. There were about ten meters to the entrance when flashes began to sparkle in the sky, far on the horizon. There were many of them, and everywhere at once. Someone shouted that it was the air defense that was shooting down the missiles, and a stampede began. The police gave electric shocks, and the crowd seemed to calm down, but then something flashed from the direction of the embankment. You couldn't see anything behind the houses. It must have happened far away, because the roar came about five seconds later. The impact was deafening, and everyone rushed into the subway, crushing each other. I was so squeezed that my legs were lifted off the ground, and the suitcase was torn out of my hands, only the handle remained in my fist. I couldn’t breathe, my vision was blurry. The crowd carried me into the subway!” [2]

The Smolenskaya station on the blue line, where the main characters of the novel are located - former special forces soldier Oleg Porfiryev and Anton Ovechkin with his family - is actually buried under rubble, since the shock wave crushed the entrance to the metro.

“Powerful explosions caused catastrophic displacements of the soil, and the adjacent underground tunnels collapsed like paper. Those that were a little further away partially collapsed and were partially buried. Their shelter was also damaged. The Smolenskaya station avoided collapse; the ceiling vaults suffered several large cracks, but generally survived. The Plyushchikha station collapsed, and hundreds of people were crushed by tons of collapsed rock" [2].

A nuclear war in Tarmashev’s work lasts for several days, as long as the warring parties have something to shoot, because everyone is trying to make sure that the enemy suffers maximum losses. In the first wave, everyone tried to send missiles from silos and other points that were the oldest, and therefore well known. Because then all that will remain from these mines are radioactive craters. The bunkers are attacked with special ammunition.

“Everyone tried to make the first wave the most massive; it was designed to maximally load the enemy’s air defense systems and thereby increase the effectiveness of the second wave. Stationary missile systems and strategic aviation. When only a few minutes remained before the arrival of the first wave, and air defense systems had already been distributed to targets, everyone who could played their most dangerous card: missile submarines. Submarines launched missiles directly off the enemy’s coast, the flight time was minimal, and it was impossible to intercept everything...

The missile defense systems failed. No one has. The whole world was bombarded with thermonuclear hail. And now the survivors of this hail, or rather, those still surviving, the mobile launchers that managed to be removed from their base areas just before the strike, were launching. For the civilian population, if there is any left anywhere, this blow will be especially terrible. Because there is nothing and no one to reflect it” [2],

– this is how one of the main anti-heroes of the cycle, Colonel of the Strategic Missile Forces Dmitry Brilyov, describes a nuclear war.

When, a few days later, Porfiryev, Ovechkin and several other people make their way out from under the rubble of the Moscow metro and come to the surface to understand what is happening and find shelter (for life at the metro station is becoming unbearable), there is a continuous wall of dust, temperature, despite the summer, it drops to +4 °C, and Geiger counters reach 999 roentgens per hour (in fact, the background is even higher)*.

*Such figures may seem fantastic, but an interesting fact should be cited: in 1962, the Atomic Energy Commission published the book “The effects of nuclear weapons.” Us. 451–453 provides unique information about radioactive contamination in the Marshall Islands as a result of the Bravo test explosion carried out on March 1, 1954. The total power of the explosion was 15 megatons. The explosion resulted in severe contamination of an area along the wind direction with a length of more than 530 km and a width of about 100 km. On a strip 260 km long and 50 km wide along the wind direction, the dose measured over 96 hours exceeded 700 roentgens. And in another explosion, an unexpectedly high dose was recorded on Rongelap Atoll. 160 km from the epicenter of the explosion, the total dose for 96 hours after the start of the fallout of radioactive products was 3300 roentgens.
*Such figures may seem fantastic, but an interesting fact should be cited - the Atomic Energy Commission published a book in 1962, The effects of nuclear weapons, which included on p. 451–453 provides unique information about radioactive contamination in the Marshall Islands as a result of the Bravo test explosion carried out on March 1, 1954. The total power of the explosion was 15 megatons. The explosion resulted in severe contamination of an area along the wind direction with a length of more than 530 km and a width of about 100 km. On a strip 260 km long and 50 km wide along the wind direction, the dose measured over 96 hours exceeded 700 roentgens. And in another explosion, an unexpectedly high dose was recorded on Rongelap Atoll. 160 km from the epicenter of the explosion, the total dose for 96 hours after the start of the fallout of radioactive products was 3 roentgens.

The heroes survive not so much thanks to the emergency suits of the Ministry of Emergency Situations that ended up at the station, but also thanks to the antirad drug, which for some time increases the body's resistance to radiation, but has many side effects.

The author, through the mouth of Porfiryev, explains such an incredibly high radiation background and wall of dust by the fact that more than a hundred nuclear strikes were carried out on Moscow, so the air is clogged with dust right up to the stratosphere, and therefore it cannot settle quickly. As a result, the heroes decide that they will not survive in the metro for long and, together with a group of volunteers, try to leave Moscow and get to the Podzemstroy-1 bunker, built by a Russian oligarch in the Novgorod region at great depths and used mainly for entertaining tourists.

Behavior of people in extreme situations in the work it is quite unsightly, and therefore believable - the strong are trying to steal or take by force supplies from the weaker. For example, the author describes how dark-skinned bearded men who have weapons attack one of the main characters, Porfiryev, and try to take away his backpack, which contains food.

A typical case is when a crowd storms a buffet where the local administration, together with the police, distributed food to those who carried out work on repairing ventilation and a well (which in 2111 is at the station).

“Someone said that the administration was secretly distributing food from the pantry. The crowd rushed there. The administration announced that food would be distributed primarily to the poor who did not have the opportunity to take dry rations with them from home. Of course, absolutely everyone turned out to be poor and unfortunate orphans, including those who were not immediately able to get out of the piles of their suitcases. At first the crowd formed something like a queue, then a rumor spread that there was not enough food and there would not be enough for everyone. And everyone rushed to win a piece for themselves. The police were swept away in a second, now there is a stampede and anarchy” [2].

Afterwards, the same crowd demands that the police go to the surface to get food for them, which runs out. There are only a few people who are ready to help others; most people think only about themselves and, at best, about their families.

Another characteristic detail is that, apparently, in 2111 the overwhelming majority of the population of Moscow are dark-skinned Muslims.

This is where we should complete the review of the novel “To Each His Own” and move on to the consideration of the next work – “Black Day” by A. Doronin.

Doronin’s “Black Day” – the United States launches nuclear strikes on Russia as part of a “humanitarian intervention”



Unlike Tarmashev's work, the action of Doronin's novel begins not in the relatively near future, but in modern times - in 2019 (the novel itself was written in 2008) in Novosibirsk.

Causes of nuclear war the author does not pay much attention - it begins due to the conflict in Ukraine and without a declaration of war as such. Initially, the conflict did not imply either a gradual drawing of forces to the borders, or long bombing of cities, or a debilitating naval blockade.

“The missiles that had performed so well in previous conflicts were given the role of the second echelon. It was not they, nor even their combat companions, who were destined to be the all-crushing fist of democracy. Still, the target was not Somalia or even Serbia.

After much staff research, the Pentagon decided not to reinvent the wheel, but to entrust this honorable mission to medium-range ballistic missiles, thoroughly modified good old Pershing-2, codenamed “Nemesis” and noticeably improved tactical and technical characteristics. Their main advantage was their short flight time - less than five minutes. Computer models showed that their mass launch guaranteed the impossibility of a retaliatory strike with a probability close to one hundred percent.

The Fourth World War - if we count the confrontation between NATO and the Warsaw Pact as the third - began in full accordance with the spirit of the times. That is, without declaring war. Why this outdated formality in the 3st century, when enlightened humanity has agreed that the depths belong not to those whose ancestors spread their huts over them, but to those who can pump more out of them?” [XNUMX],

– writes Doronin.

Description of nuclear war itself much more attention is paid. As mentioned above, it all starts with the US attempt to carry out a kind of “humanitarian intervention” using precision weapons. In a new type of war, everything is decided not by mobilization capabilities or even megatons of warheads, but by information, coordination, accuracy and speed. And Russia, as the author notes in his work, has problems with this.

First, a high-altitude explosion occurs in the sky above Novosibirsk, which disables all electronics and stalls cars. Then high-precision weapons strike strategically important targets - command centers, Strategic Missile Forces, air bases.

Here's how one of the novel's heroes describes it:

“Ten minutes ago... Presumably a high-altitude explosion. Electromagnetic pulse. There is no energy anywhere, even where there were autonomous generators. The metro is worth it. Nobody knows a damn thing. The administration is not responding, nor is the district headquarters. Perhaps there are already funnels in their place. Do you know the expression “smoking the sky”? Precision weapons...

On the radio, instead of civilian stations, there is gurgling and crackling. There is also almost silence on departmental and military frequencies. On short waves and VHF - not a sound. On long ones, sometimes snippets of negotiations make their way through, but it’s weak and you can’t understand anything.

First, they smashed command centers, air defense, Strategic Missile Forces and aviation to smithereens. And here it would hardly have happened without the “non-peaceful atom”. Then the second-stage military facilities” [3].

However, the US operation is not going according to plan - several Russian officers at the Yamantau reserve command post managed, moments before they were covered by a cluster of tactical nuclear missiles of the Bunker-buste type, to press the coveted button and send a command to launch nuclear missiles. In addition, the launches were carried out by Russian missile submarines that were on combat duty.

The NORAD system could not cope with the abundance of false targets, and the largest American cities were destroyed. After which the Americans and their submarine fleet struck at bloodless Russia, no longer caring about the mass casualties among the population. The wreckage of Russia and the US unleashed everything they had in an attempt to completely destroy each other.

“And the taiga will burn, and the entire space from the Ural Mountains to the Pacific Ocean will turn into a giant bonfire, set on fire from several sides and fueled by new explosions. A patriot could be consoled by the fact that the same thing was happening on the North American continent" [3].

The main character of the novel, Sergei Demyanov, a former employee of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, on “Day X” was just at the facility number 28-B - in the largest civilian bomb shelter beyond the Urals. On this day, an inspection was supposed to come here. Just when the inspectors descend into the bunker, the first high-altitude explosion occurs and, realizing that war has begun, Demyanov tries to save the maximum number of people.

After a nuclear war, Novosibirsk is completely destroyed and contaminated with radiation, and anarchy reigns throughout the country. Nevertheless, outside the city the level of radiation is not lethal, as in Tarmashev’s work. For example, in the village of Kochenevo, Novosibirsk region, after the end of the nuclear war, refugees are accepted for some time, but soon anarchy begins there, because the remaining supplies are seized by a certain gang.


In “Black Day,” as in “To Each His Own,” nuclear winter also sets in, but in a much milder form. In addition, Doronin notes that the fallout is most likely radioactive (considering that, in addition to nuclear explosions, all nuclear power plants also exploded), but does not develop this topic.

Behavior of people in extreme situations in “Black Bottom” it is also described in sufficient detail. On the surface, the surviving people, who are far from the epicenters of the explosions, are engaged in looting (robbing shops and retail outlets), forming gangs and trying to take resources from others.

For example, one of the heroes of the novel, Alexander Danilov, falls into the hands of three deserters who are engaged in robberies on the roads, and they do not kill him only because he made it up. history about a non-existent cache where a lot of supplies are supposedly hidden.

In the shelter where Demyanov is located, conflicts often occur, including on ethnic grounds - between “indigenous” and “newcomers”. One of the mass fights begins in the queue for the next ration, where the “southerner” who received it in the face calls on his fellow tribesmen to beat the Russians.

The behavior of government officials is also interesting, for example the inspector general who accidentally ends up in the shelter on an ill-fated day. Formally, he is the head of the bunker, but all decisions are made by Demyanov, who has become his deputy, since the general does not want to take responsibility for unpopular decisions, for which he may have to answer according to the law (if the central government survives and the laws come into force again) .

Conclusion


This should conclude the analysis of books about nuclear war by modern Russian science fiction writers. From a scientific point of view, some of the authors’ theses may seem controversial, but we should not forget that debate about the consequences of nuclear war continues in scientific circles.

The fact that a nuclear war can lead to catastrophic consequences is stated, for example, in the scientific article by Professor Alexander Tarko and the head of the sector for modeling climatic and biosphere processes of the Computing Center of the Russian Academy of Sciences Valery Parkhomenko “Nuclear winter: history of the issue and forecasts.”

Referring to studies by independent scientists of the USSR and the USA in the 1980s, they note that in the event of a nuclear war, all of Europe, Russia, North America and the Far East region, including Japan and South Korea, would be hit. It is assumed that strikes will also be made against countries not directly involved in the war, with the aim of undermining their economic potential and reducing their importance in the post-war situation.

“Major cities are the primary targets approved by strategic planners in nuclear attacks on industrial facilities that constitute a critical part of the enemy’s defense and economic capabilities.

The fires that arise in cities ("primary" fires) cause extensive "secondary" fires. When many flames from these and other fires combine into one powerful source, a “fire tornado” is formed that can destroy an entire city (as happened after the American bombing of Dresden and Hamburg at the end of World War II).

The intense release of thermal energy in the center of such a gigantic fire lifts huge masses of air upward, at the same time creating hurricane-force winds at the surface of the earth, which supply ever new portions of oxygen to the fire. It is as a result of a “fire tornado” that smoke, dust and soot rising up to the stratosphere form a black cloud that almost completely blocks out the sunlight, and “nuclear night” sets in [5].

There will also be a significant decrease in atmospheric temperature in the Southern Hemisphere. Calculations showed that dust, smoke and darkness could spread to the tropics and much of the Southern Hemisphere.

Thus, even non-belligerent countries, including those located far from the conflict area, will experience its detrimental effects. The planet will experience a nuclear winter, which could last a year [5].

Thus, nuclear winter and nuclear night as the consequences of a nuclear war, described in the above science fiction works, are, in principle, not fantastic in themselves.

Использованная литература:
[1]. Berezovskaya L. S., Demchenkov. S. A. Post-apocalypticism as a genre of scientific/parascientific fiction // Bulletin of the Omsk State Pedagogical University. Humanities studies. – 2016. – No. 4 (13). – pp. 64–67.
[2]. Tarmashev S. S. To each his own: [fantasy novel] / Moscow: AST Publishing House, 2017.
[3]. Doronin A. Black day. – St. Petersburg: Krylov, 2009.
[4]. Kozhevnikov N. N., Danilova V. S. Philosophical view of science fiction and fantasy genres // Pedagogy. Psychology. Philosophy. 2017. No. 4 (08). URL: https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/filosofskiy-vzglyad-na-nauchnuyufantastiku-i-fantaziynye-zhanry.
[5]. Tarko A. M., Parkhomenko V. P. Nuclear winter: history of the issue and forecasts. Biosphere, 2011, vol. 3, no. 2, pp. 164–174.
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  1. +4
    11 December 2023 04: 33
    Tarmashev’s books strangely combine pessimism and super-optimism, especially in the “Ancient” cycle.
    In “Black Bottom,” if I’m not mistaken, there is a description of the consequences of the proposed US strategy in waging an all-out nuclear war, namely attacks on coal mines and oil fields.
    Well, I recommend “After” by Cruise and “Marauder-Punisher” by Berkem Al-Atomi. For the first, everything is not so bad, but for the second, everything is bad, but without a blow to Russia.
    1. +11
      11 December 2023 05: 58
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      the proposed US strategy for waging an all-out nuclear war, namely attacks on coal mines and oil fields.

      This is a very strange strategy. For my taste, science fiction can be as “fantastic” as you like, but it must be internally logical. Their real strategy is not secret and it is completely different
      1) A blow to the control system of strategic nuclear forces, missile defense, and the most important radars
      2) A strike on submarine bases, airfields, missile defense installations, and most importantly on silos and mobile installations (mostly located in sparsely populated areas)
      3) Next, achieving other important military goals. Of the large cities, they are only interested in Moscow.
      And their nuclear weapons potential is so small that it is barely enough even for these purposes. They also need to leave a reserve against the PRC.
      So the majority of Russian residents will not only not see the “nuclear winter”, they will even learn about nuclear war on the radio (and maybe there will still be television in some places).
      What’s scary is not nuclear weapons, but the collapse of the structures of the state (already on its last legs); tens of times more people will die from it than from radiation.
      1. +3
        11 December 2023 06: 04
        Quote: Belisarius
        This is a very strange strategy. For my taste, science fiction can be as “fantastic” as you like, but it must be internally logical. Their real strategy is not secret and it is completely different

        In the book, this is justified by the fact that it would not give the enemy the opportunity to restore industrial potential even in the long term. So the logic is quite present.
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 06: 27
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          In the book, this is justified by the fact that it would not give the enemy the opportunity to restore industrial potential even in the distant future.

          There is already little oil left. Who cuts the goose that lays the golden eggs? It is simpler and more logical (if we start to fight, then the West receives money from the periphery of capitalism without any war at all through purely economic methods) to declare oil fields a world heritage and take control of them.
          1. +2
            11 December 2023 08: 08
            Quote: Belisarius
            There is already little oil left. Who cuts the goose that lays the golden eggs? It’s simpler and more logical (if we start fighting, the West receives money from the periphery of capitalism without any war at all, using purely economic methods)

            You don’t seem to understand the words “total nuclear war”...
      2. +5
        11 December 2023 12: 28
        Is the US nuclear weapons potential small? Are you kidding? They have about the same charges as we do.
        And it is enough to destroy Moscow and St. Petersburg for anarchy to begin.
      3. -2
        11 December 2023 15: 04
        What’s scary is not nuclear weapons, but the collapse of the structures of the state (already on its last legs), tens of times more people will die from it than from radiation

        Don't worry about that. The armored train is standing on a siding. wink
        http://gusp.gov.ru/
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 16: 09
          Quote: Arzt
          The armored train is standing on a siding.

          wherever he stands, the result of such events will be complete and widespread...
          people will begin to die from lack of medicine and hunger, with the arrival of cold weather from the cold
      4. +4
        11 December 2023 15: 12
        Quote: Belisarius
        1) A blow to the control system of strategic nuclear forces, missile defense, and the most important radars

        A strike on the missile defense system must go together with a strike on the silos. Because this strike itself means the beginning of a global nuclear war - after it, the launch command is issued regardless of the detection of enemy ballistic missile launches.
  2. +4
    11 December 2023 04: 37
    Tarmashev's books would be suitable for general study, but 282UK is right around the corner.
    1. +1
      12 December 2023 16: 27
      a good cooling read for our Zetas. here every 5th person is agitating the whole world into ruin ... the Armenian Solovyov Skabeevsky and our crazy pensioners.
      there is a phrase from Tarmashev - like comrade major and who won? if they didn’t respond to our 3rd salvo, then there is no one alive there and victory is ours and we have to live until tomorrow.
      about GMOs and Monsanto also went well
  3. +7
    11 December 2023 05: 09
    No matter how science fiction writers scare us, reality is always worse than imagined. Be it a fire, a flood, or the war itself.
  4. +6
    11 December 2023 05: 24
    Unfortunately, this article by a respected author can hardly be considered successful. Among the positive aspects, one can note the love of science fiction itself. As for the rest...
    The concept of “nuclear winter” was political propaganda of the 70s and 80s, not scientifically confirmed and, moreover, having nothing to do with reality. It is based on absolutely fantastic premises, such as an explosion of all nuclear potentials of all sides, which is a priori impossible since the nuclear potential of the parties is primarily aimed at the opposing nuclear potential.
    But even if we assume that the concept of nuclear winter has some relation to reality, then to the reality of the 80s, but not to the modern one, when the size of the nuclear potential has decreased many times and the power of the warheads themselves has decreased (with an increase in the CEP). Now the scares of a “nuclear winter” can only evoke a sympathetic smile.
    The presented novels are just as bad in content - what kind of “fire from the Ural Mountains to the Pacific Ocean” is there, why then not immediately from the Arctic to the Antarctic? Why the hell should the Americans destroy all of Novosibirsk, where among the important objects is one half-dead aircraft plant producing a meager number of old Su-34s? Well, etc. to infinity.
    In fact, there are so few nuclear weapons left that there is a question of zeroing out the potential of one of the parties during the BSU (especially since a significant part of it is concentrated at two submarine bases and two airfields and is easily destroyed). This is a threat, and not a “nuclear winter” at all. .
    1. +9
      11 December 2023 08: 44
      Quote: Belisarius
      The concept of “nuclear winter” was political propaganda of the 70s and 80s, not scientifically confirmed and, moreover, having nothing to do with reality.

      In this regard, the author appeals to Tarko A.M., Parkhomenko V.P. Nuclear winter: history of the issue and forecasts.
      And these comrades managed to come to an agreement before the nuclear winter when nuclear weapons struck large cities with a total capacity of 100 Mt. Although their main scenario is 10 Mt
      In principle, as I understand it, they themselves are climatologists, and they create a high-quality climate scenario based on incorrect premises.
      Firstly, their use of nuclear weapons should cause massive superfires similar to those in Dresden and Hamburg (WWII) - when fire tornadoes formed. And so they will throw all sorts of nasty things into the stratosphere. Secondly, they count combustion products (such as... asphalt, for example) based on the norm of 4 grams per square centimeter.
      All this is hardly feasible.
      1. +1
        11 December 2023 12: 50
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        All this is hardly feasible.

        This is absolutely true. But even before these arguments, in order to create a realistic scenario, it is necessary to assess that the main goal is the enemy’s nuclear potential. It will be the main blow, how many warheads are needed to guarantee the destruction of all our 1700, plus storage sites for non-deployed ones, plus tactical nuclear weapons and a place for storing and producing plutonium, plus headquarters, communications, and missile defense. And all this will not fly to major cities (except Moscow). Plus, we need to leave a reserve to fight the PRC.
        Plus, the power of modern warheads is not megaton at all. Plus, in general, not everyone will just make it, technical failures have not been canceled.
        And most importantly, if one side nullifies the potential of the other (or at least greatly reduces it), then the scenario of the explosion of all warheads of all sides is obviously unrealistic.
        1. +3
          11 December 2023 14: 11
          Quote: Belisarius
          the main goal is the enemy’s nuclear potential

          Not at all necessary, and even quite the opposite. This only makes sense if a surprise attack on a nuclear power is planned. If we, for example, are not going to do this, then the goal of our response is precisely cities, communications, etc.
          Quote: Belisarius
          scenario of explosion of all warheads on all sides

          Well, the authors of the article do not have such a scenario.
    2. +1
      11 December 2023 16: 12
      Quote: Belisarius
      Now the scares of a “nuclear winter” can only evoke a sympathetic smile.
      maybe yes and maybe no
      but even without a nuclear winter, it won’t be enough for all of us; after the disruption of logistics (widespread), hunger and mortality will come from the lack of medicines and drinking water, with the advent of seasonal cold, most of the population will die from the cold
  5. +12
    11 December 2023 05: 25
    Conquest of other worlds does not shine for humanity.
    1. +3
      11 December 2023 09: 28
      Quote: parusnik
      Conquest of other worlds does not shine for humanity.

      But did anyone other than science fiction writers actually get together?
      With the actually existing scientific and technological revolution, “alone,” not a single state is capable of creating and operating on a permanent basis at least a scientific base on the Moon, which is literally “around the corner.” The same “Artemis”, which develops “neither shaky nor slow,” is the fruit of cooperation from half the world.
      Conclusion - until we put things in order, Mars is no closer than Alpha Centauri request
  6. -3
    11 December 2023 05: 26
    I would like to note who will not be affected by nuclear armageddon in the event of a nuclear war. These are countries and continents that do not have nuclear weapons on their territory and countries that are not part of military blocs directed against countries that have nuclear weapons. Another question is that the accuracy of nuclear missiles is increasing, which makes it possible to reduce the power of warheads. In principle, the power of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in kilotons, and not in megatons as now, will be enough. Another question is whether peaceful cities without military structures and the presence of the country's leadership will be bombed.
    Another fact is that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in principle, survived and recovered.
    But we need to fight against nuclear weapons and prevent their proliferation. soldier
    1. +2
      11 December 2023 05: 29
      Quote: V.
      Another fact is that both Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in principle, survived and recovered.

      Because not even a civilization, but a single country, did not collapse.
    2. +6
      11 December 2023 05: 41
      Quote: V.
      But we need to fight against nuclear weapons and prevent their proliferation

      Considering the very poor state of the Russian army and industry, we need to fight not against nuclear weapons, and for him. Without it, we will simply be rolled into a pancake.
      It is possible and necessary to scare nuclear weapons and a nuclear winter, but not your own citizens; such horror stories need to be disseminated as much as possible among Western citizens. Especially among the left-liberal public, the generation of snowflakes .etc.
      1. +7
        11 December 2023 07: 53
        Do you need to tell your citizens that a nuclear war is not so scary?
        1. +7
          11 December 2023 08: 07
          Quote: Commissar Kitten
          Do you need to tell your citizens that a nuclear war is not so scary?

          There is no need to scare your citizens with a nuclear war. Russian citizens already have a huge number of reasons for fear and anxiety. And most of them, I’ll tell you in great confidence, are connected with the politics of our own government.
          1. +8
            11 December 2023 08: 42
            Well, yes, first they tell citizens about genetic weapons, Western biological laboratories, the threat of NATO and flight time, and then they behave as if in reality they don’t believe in all this one bit. I’ll also tell you a big secret: intimidating the population with threats and whipping up anxiety for the sake of rallying around the leader did not appear yesterday and will not die tomorrow. It's too effective a method.
            1. +4
              11 December 2023 12: 31
              Quote: Commissar Kitten
              I’ll also tell you a big secret: intimidating the population with threats and whipping up anxiety for the sake of rallying around the leader did not appear yesterday and will not die tomorrow. It's too effective a method.

              Here you have completely killed me. I can’t argue with you.
      2. +5
        11 December 2023 10: 01
        It is possible and necessary to scare nuclear weapons and a nuclear winter, but not your own citizens; such horror stories need to be disseminated as much as possible among Western citizens.
        You are clearly not familiar with the mentality of the West; a scarecrow will make you want to deal with the scarecrow.
        1. -2
          11 December 2023 10: 50
          You live in the UK and don’t want to understand the mentality of the West.
          This is the hyena mentality. They will attack and eat everything, even carrion. but they will become afraid if someone is stronger than her, and will wait for someone stronger than her to weaken and then she will attack him.
          There is not a single country in the world where Great Britain, and indeed the West in general, has not committed mischief.
          Russia is absolutely the opposite of the West. hi
          1. +1
            11 December 2023 11: 00
            you don’t want to understand the mentality of the West.
            It's the hyena mentality
            I understand the mentality of the West well, and it has nothing to do with hyenas, although you know better laughing . By the way, how did the hyenas offend you? They are intelligent school predators with extraordinary physical capabilities, and are also easily tamed.
            Russia is absolutely the opposite of the West.
            Everyone is bad, but I'm good, yeah Yes .
            1. +2
              11 December 2023 20: 15
              You see, here again you have been told all your “Western” desires and thoughts, incl. ones you didn't even know about! In general, with yet another “patriot” commentator the picture is clear: “you don’t understand, this is different,” so you won’t be able to convince him, it’s probably something clinical... lol
              1. +2
                11 December 2023 20: 17
                you can't convince him
                Yes, I don’t even try - he still knows better wassat .
          2. +5
            11 December 2023 12: 30
            By this logic, the British should have surrendered to the Germans in 1940, when they were actively bombed and had zero allies.
      3. +1
        11 December 2023 11: 30
        Quote: Belisarius
        Considering the very poor state of the Russian army and industry, we need to fight not against nuclear weapons, but for them. Without it, we will simply be rolled into a pancake.


        It is interesting in this aspect to consider the role of Tactical Nuclear Weapons, maybe knowledgeable people can shed light on how feasible this is in terms of acceptable damage (in Ukraine...in the western part, central and maybe at the front))?

        From the wiki: “Tactical nuclear weapons (TNW), or non-strategic nuclear weapons (NSNW) are tactical nuclear weapons for hitting large targets and concentrations of enemy forces at the front and in the immediate rear.”

        “...Unlike strategic nuclear weapons, the TNT equivalent of tactical warheads usually does not exceed several kilotons, and is often less than one kiloton.

        ...According to various estimates, Russia has the world's largest reserves of such weapons."
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 12: 58
          Quote: Aleksandr21
          It is interesting in this aspect to consider the role of Tactical Nuclear Weapons, maybe knowledgeable people can shed light on how feasible this is in terms of acceptable damage (in Ukraine...in the western part, central and maybe at the front))?

          In short, tactical nuclear weapons are useful and need active development (among other things, they increase the number of targets for the enemy’s strategic nuclear forces). In terms of quantity, not everything is so rosy. The USSR had a lot of tactical nuclear weapons, but alas, 32 years have already passed... I have no idea how much we have in this regard, and this is strictly classified information in any case.
          There is no need for tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. It is enough that by the end of the second year of the war we would finally be concerned with striking the enemy’s communications, energy structures, political and information centers.
        2. 0
          15 December 2023 02: 57
          Almost parity with the States. The approximate number of charges in the United States and Russia is 5-6 thousand each, of which each has about 1700 strategic charges.
    3. +6
      11 December 2023 10: 09
      Quote: V.
      Another question is whether peaceful cities without military structures will be bombed

      Certainly. This is the meaning of nuclear weapons
      1. -2
        16 December 2023 12: 20
        No way. What can you do to the city with two kilotons? You will demolish the block. And you will be demolished in the Security Council. All unanimously and for decades. What's the point?
        1. +1
          16 December 2023 12: 52
          Quote: stankow
          You do not.

          an interesting statement, considering that it is now the civilian population that is being targeted
          Quote: stankow
          What can you do to the city with two kilotons?

          KiLotoNNami. The tones don't kill :)))))
          Firstly, those dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki had not 2, but 11-13 Kt. Secondly, here I simply did not correct the person; in reality, ammunition now produces 100-150 Kt. And they are applied to a city at the rate of approximately 1 warhead per 100 inhabitants.
          Quote: stankow
          And you will be demolished in the Security Council.

          What's the safety tip? After Armageddon this will be the last of our problems
          1. 0
            16 December 2023 12: 56
            There were strategic BPs in Japan. And modern tactical ones are exactly 2-4 kilotons (I’m learning quickly :)) What kind of trouble can two kilotons do - ask the Lebanese. One port, and the neighbors have no windows, but they stand.
            1. +1
              16 December 2023 13: 14
              Quote: stankow
              There were strategic BPs in Japan. And modern tactical ones are exactly 2-4 kilotons (I’m learning quickly :) )

              :)))) Then a little more information for you to note
              Japan had not strategic, but the first atomic bombs. That's why they were so weak. Then, progress did not stand still, and the standard warhead became 1 megaton. That is 1000 kilotons.
              However, then the accuracy of ballistic missiles increased greatly, and 1Mt became unnecessary to hit a point target. And it is more effective to cover the same city with 6 charges of 150 kilotons each than with 1 megaton.
              Actually, it is precisely with such ammunition that a nuclear war will be fought. And 2-3 Kt today fit into a 152 mm projectile. this is a purely tactical weapon
              1. 0
                17 December 2023 00: 24
                Exactly. The first charges were fired in Japan, 18 kt. Small, but strategic. The strategist dropped the B-29, the military result was strategic - the surrender of the empire.
                1. 0
                  17 December 2023 08: 25
                  Quote: stankow
                  The B-29 strategist dropped

                  B-29s were not called strategic. Heavy four-engine, long-range. But not strategic - there was no such thing then
                  Quote: stankow
                  The military result was strategic - the surrender of the empire.

                  The Empire capitulated for another reason.
                  Japan was looking for a way to surrender to the United States even before the USSR entered the war. The United States did not want to talk directly, so the Japanese looked for a mediator. They offered mediation to the USSR, with a promise to give up a lot of everything, including the remnants of the fleet.
                  But the USSR itself entered the war against Japan. Then there was still a shadow of a chance that the Kwantung Army would stop the Red Army, and there would still be grounds for negotiations. But ours tore up the Kwwantung one, and then the atomic bombing turned up very successfully...
                  In fact, the appearance of a superweapon allowed the Japanese to capitulate without losing face - so they referred to it.
                  And so... Nuclear weapons did not do anything that American bombers could not do. They burned cities with huge civilian losses and without nuclear weapons
  7. +2
    11 December 2023 05: 32
    One hero is “quite vile”, the rest are generally “anti-heroes”. Everything is relative, right, author?
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  9. +2
    11 December 2023 05: 42
    I read the article, something felt bad in my soul... blackness in the morning is not good for making plans for the future.
    If such articles have already appeared on VO delo Shvak... it’s time to prepare for a trip to heaven... than then suffer in hell after the exchange of nuclear strikes between Russia and the United States.
    The arms race in the world is in full swing...to survive, our country needs to stock up on more lethal weapons in quantities sufficient to guarantee the destruction of NATO and the United States in any case...this is the reality.
    Our civilization risks disappearing even without getting out of diapers... the universe will survive this... another more viable world of living beings will take our place.
    1. +3
      11 December 2023 08: 00
      Do not worry. Specifically, Putin is not going to heaven; he lives well here too. He is only ready to send someone else to heaven. Well, since the use of nuclear weapons will become a guaranteed ticket to heaven for him personally, he will not resort to it.
      1. +3
        11 December 2023 12: 31
        The top will go down to the bunkers in advance, they have something to fear.
        1. +1
          11 December 2023 16: 17
          Quote: Kmon
          The top will go down to the bunkers in advance, they have something to fear.

          there is something to be afraid of, sooner or later you will have to go out, but there is nowhere to go
  10. +6
    11 December 2023 06: 11
    The Strugatsky brothers, on the planet Saraksh, after a nuclear war, had some mutants, ghouls and thousands of kilometers of contaminated territory...
  11. +3
    11 December 2023 06: 23
    Quote: Luminman
    The Strugatsky brothers, on the planet Saraksh, after a nuclear war, had some mutants, ghouls and thousands of kilometers of contaminated territory...

    Mutant children are still being born in Vietnam (this horror is very hard to see) ... after the use of chemical weapons by the US Army in the jungles of Vietnam ... so the Strugatskys were not surprised with their work.
    And the United States has still not been held accountable for this crime against the Vietnamese people.
    1. +1
      11 December 2023 10: 03
      after the use of chemical weapons by the US Army in the jungles of Vietnam
      The United States did not use chemical weapons in Vietnam; they used agricultural defoliants, which, due to imperfect technology, were contaminated with synthesis by-products - dioxins.
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 16: 19
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        agricultural defoliants were used, which, due to imperfect technology, turned out to be contaminated with by-products of synthesis - dioxins.

        this fundamentally changes the situation
        Did I understand correctly that after the explanation, it is not the mattresses that are to blame for the deaths of civilians and that civilians should pay for the work of the mattress pilots?
  12. +8
    11 December 2023 07: 12
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    If such articles have already appeared on VO delo Shvak... it’s time to prepare for a trip to heaven

    It’s always a good idea to be prepared for death, but regarding the “escalation” - this has been noticeable for two or three years now, and what should ordinary citizens do? "rally around the national leader"? What we have in fact is that one big country is on sale, most of the processes are run by the henchmen of the globalists, and the majority of the people are only interested in celebrating the New Year...
    1. +16
      11 December 2023 08: 46
      Quote: Vladimir80
      and what should ordinary citizens do? "rally around the national leader"?

      And don't rock the boat. How about it :))))
      1. +7
        11 December 2023 10: 12
        And don't rock the boat. How about it :))))

        Because “there’s no time to rock up!” (c) GDP
  13. +3
    11 December 2023 08: 21
    A rainy day is a thing. There is also the cycle “Wind” by S. Panchenko. There are no nuclear weapons there, but very cool. fellow
    1. AUL
      +6
      11 December 2023 09: 53
      I remember some very impressive films. "White Blood", "On the Shore", "The Next Day". Very thought provoking. And printed/electronic works are legion. And they all come to the same conclusion - the explosions themselves are not as terrible as the chaos and lawlessness that comes after them!
  14. +2
    11 December 2023 11: 23
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    The United States did not use chemical weapons in Vietnam; they used agricultural defoliants, which, due to imperfect technology, were contaminated with synthesis by-products - dioxins.

    Let's just say that orange was used as a chemical weapon against Vietnamese partisans.
    The jungle and soil are very heavily contaminated with this poison for many years to come.
    1. +6
      11 December 2023 12: 09
      Let's just say that orange was used as a chemical weapon against Vietnamese partisans.
      The same chemical from the same plants (a 50/50 mixture of 2,4,5-trichloro- and 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acids) has been used in the continental United States in cotton fields and to suppress overgrowth in certain areas since the late 40's.
  15. +2
    11 December 2023 11: 29
    I'll start with philosophy. A person hears what he wants to hear. Those books that can be sold are published.
    If you look at our situation, it was correctly said in the article that our state will collapse like a house of cards, because trust is now, in a calm environment, at zero. There is an opinion that the sovereign’s people, aka the police and the National Guard, will first solve their own personal problems and only then the state ones.
    In any case, we will fall apart into a bunch of warring enclaves, surviving on old supplies and the robberies of our neighbors, and any decent organization will be able to crush them under itself. And it is still unknown when the biggest losses will occur - in the “hot phase” or when we start killing each other over a can of stew.
    As a civilization we will soon descend to the level of the village forge.
    And don’t count on civilization 2.0; it will have to be built on firewood and other renewable resources, because all easily accessible deposits of energy resources have already been selected. It’s simpler with metal, it still remains on the planet, but to develop new deposits you need advanced mining equipment and there’s nothing to build it from.
    1. 0
      16 December 2023 12: 26
      Why new deposits, old explorations and openings are not going anywhere. And why is it that advanced technology can also be used on ordinary technology?
      1. 0
        16 December 2023 12: 33
        To begin with, immediately after the war we lived on old supplies. There will be a sharp decrease in people and equipment; they will last a long time.
        I agree that the oil that is squelching under your feet can be collected with a bucket, but this will no longer happen.
        Firstly, information about where everything is located, and specifically linked to the area. Immediately after survival you don’t need it, and then... you won’t find it anymore.
        Secondly, if the oil is at a depth of 5 km, then you can’t get to it without a drilling rig (and everything above has already been extracted), even if you’re lucky and have equipment from the “old times”, then firstly you need to fill it with the same fuel, and secondly people are needed. a professional team that can handle it. By the second generation of survivors, there will be no one left who could work with her, and the profession of an oil driller is clearly not what is needed for survival immediately after the war.
        1. 0
          16 December 2023 12: 35
          I'm not talking about oil, about metal deposits.
          1. 0
            16 December 2023 12: 37
            I agree about metals, old junkyards/car graveyards/cities aren't going anywhere.
            It’s simpler with metal, it still remains on the planet

            I quote myself.
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  17. 0
    11 December 2023 12: 03
    Soviet writers set themselves the tasks of expanding education, educating their readers, and exploring questions of the spirit. The damned Soviet censorship paid the main attention to these issues, mercilessly pinching those writers who diligently emphasized the “interest of readers.” What a scoundrel of censorship!
    Modern writers are freed from all shackles and shackles, not being interested in anything other than the reader’s very interest. Therefore, none of this is fantasy, it is the most ordinary fantasy. That is, books of captivating stories, where everything happens not according to the laws of nature and the human spirit, but entirely according to the author’s arbitrariness.
    To make it more interesting. Considering the “author’s vision” is simply ridiculous - it is not based on anything) All of the listed substances and compounds can be easily obtained and not from oil...
  18. +13
    11 December 2023 12: 08
    The sanitary and supply consequences will be much worse than nuclear war itself in principle. Tens and hundreds of millions will burn in the ashes of the war, and the subsequent unsanitary conditions and hunger will kill hundreds of billions.
    The modern world and population rely on well-functioning supplies and production; without this, the existence of all these billions of people in urban communities would be impossible. The land is polluted, mining and processing enterprises and entire chemical clusters are destroyed - there will be no large-scale sowing, no fertilizers, no parts for agricultural machines, no fuel. After the first months, those suffering (deprived of stable food and a roof over their heads, inhaled fumes, irradiated waste and existing amid decay, looting and the wildest unsanitary conditions) will use up almost all antibiotics (by those who survive, of course), a significant part of them will be completely destroyed by warehouses in massive fires and deteriorate after a large-scale “blackout” in days or weeks).
    There will be no antibiotics - literally everything will attack our frail immunity, damaged by radiation sickness, and crowding will contribute to this. There will be no hot water supply, hot water supply, working sewerage - and very soon there will be cholera, typhus and head lice in abundance, through which diseases will spread even better.

    Most states (excluding Iceland, Switzerland, and maybe a few more), even those that did not participate in the conflict, will face severe population pressure, hyperinflation, the need for the most severe measures and (at best) an effective centralized dictatorship. Only those states that are closed within natural borders (island, peninsular, and even not all) will survive; others will be washed away by pressure from outside and within and by progressive anarchy and local separatism.

    Here we could savor it for a long time, but I want to highlight the key thing - even in the WORST scenario, civilization will not perish because there are a number of peripheral states with a small but educated population, organized politically and sufficiently equipped materially. Perhaps Switzerland, Iceland, New Zealand will be on this list. As for Switzerland, everything is more complicated, due to its location on the continent. The point is that these states are, in principle, ready for emergencies, are not in the epicenter of the conflict and are able to cover the food needs of their population. Specifically, now I’m primarily talking about Iceland with its geothermal generation and greenhouses. In such places on the planet, civilization and science may well survive, in the rest there will inevitably be mega-extinction and local wars in which the remaining ones will eat each other up for many years to come.

    This is what is called the most negative scenario. Humanity will not die out even in it.
    1. +1
      11 December 2023 12: 31
      Perhaps this list will include
      South Africa, Brazil - they will hardly be affected, they have good NT potential - they can become superpowers.
      1. +3
        11 December 2023 12: 48
        In Brazil it is possible, but I cannot estimate the potential for migration pressure from North America, as well as the potential for the sustainability of the LA ecosystem in the event of climate change and disruption of supply chains. For both Americas, climate disasters have already happened in the past even without nuclear weapons; in fact, there were large-scale extinctions, and the indigenous population did not lose calories.
        So in terms of the sustainability of this in the event of a global catastrophe there will definitely be questions. And the people there are thermonuclear, they love to shoot each other and have problems with the brakes.

        There is skepticism in South Africa... without support and third-party contributions, a large-scale famine will break out in Africa, many states will fall - in South Africa itself, the conflict between the remaining whites and blacks could potentially bury this state in the event of an emergency.
        There are about one and a half lard of souls on the continent, and only God knows what they will do if civilization and the environment collapse...
        1. -1
          11 December 2023 16: 23
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          There are about one and a half lard of souls on the continent, and only God knows what they will do if civilization and the environment collapse...

          what they have always done, eat each other, civilizational states on the dark continent are the exception rather than the rule
      2. +1
        11 December 2023 16: 22
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        South Africa

        It’s more likely to slide into such a situation that mom don’t worry, something terrible began there after the whites left power, and after the collapse of international relations everything will turn into a primitive hell
    2. +1
      11 December 2023 12: 33
      In the event of a global nuclear war, several warheads will also fly through them. At least so that they do not dominate in the post-apocalyptic world.
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 16: 22
        several warheads.
        They won't hurt them much, they'll just make them angry.
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 16: 30
          in order to cause harm, you don’t need to kill, you need to destroy logistics, medicine and public utilities, hunger and unsanitary conditions will do the rest
          1. -1
            11 December 2023 16: 34
            destroy logistics, medicine and public utilities
            Brazil is the fifth largest country, with a population one third larger than Russia. Three bombs will make them angry, but no one will give them three hundred; they are more needed in other areas.
            1. 0
              11 December 2023 16: 38
              Quote: Bolt Cutter
              fifth largest country, with a population one third larger than Russia.
              this just aggravates the situation
              Once again, it doesn’t matter how many people they have, it’s important to deprive them of the ability to deliver medicine, water and food, everything.
              in this situation the population size only worsens the situation
              1. -1
                11 December 2023 16: 43
                Possibility of delivery of medicines, water and food
                Almost everything is produced in Brazil; this is not some kind of Cameroon. There will be at least enough water and food in the humid tropics to feed your people.
                1. -2
                  11 December 2023 16: 49
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  Almost everything is produced in Brazil; this is not some kind of Cameroon.
                  what all?!!!!
                  You don’t understand that if you deprive a country of the opportunity to deliver goods across its territory, then within a month it will become not only Cameroon, but the territory of the Mumba-Yumba tribe
                  and this will happen very, very quickly
                  1. 0
                    11 December 2023 16: 53
                    deprive a country of the ability to deliver goods within its territory
                    This requires a full-fledged nuclear war, not a small strike. And in this case, there will be no warheads left for Russia and China. By the way, there are also Argentina and Chile there.
                    1. -2
                      11 December 2023 16: 59
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      This requires a full-fledged nuclear war.

                      with today's integration of economies, there will be enough for everyone, for starters, Brazil will be left without fertilizers, then yields will fall, then a shortage of fuel will arrive, and then technology will stop, the absence of medicines within a month will drive two percent of 10 of the population to the grave, then more
                      in the modern technological system we are extremely dependent on the functioning of the system
                      the system has stopped and the decay will increase
                    2. -2
                      11 December 2023 17: 01
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      By the way, there are also Argentina and Chile there.

                      By the way, you don’t need much to disable modern vehicles, 3-5 powerful air explosions and a miracle of the automotive industry can be used as a barn
                      1. -1
                        11 December 2023 17: 09
                        3-5 powerful air explosions
                        For a country with an area of ​​8,515,767 square kilometers? It won't be enough.
                      2. -2
                        11 December 2023 17: 26
                        be surprised, but no, the radius of influence of an electromagnetic pulse during an air explosion is approximately 100-115 km
                        Taking into account the jungle, with proper distribution of detonation points, it will be just enough
                      3. 0
                        11 December 2023 17: 48
                        approximately 100-115 km
                        Let the radius be 150 km. And there will be 9 bombs. Then they will create an EMP destruction square with an area of ​​810000 square meters. km. Will remain 7.7 million sq. km. unaffected area.
                      4. -2
                        11 December 2023 19: 09
                        once again, there is no need to hit everything, they will disable nodal points and main highways, the rest will stand up on its own, I’m not talking about the fact that 60 percent of Brazil is NOT a RESIDENTIAL TERRITORY of the jungle
                        I'll forgive you if tomorrow the power goes out for a month, what will you do, where will you get water, how to cook it?!
                        I’m not talking about the fact that there won’t be anywhere to store it, and what if transport gets in the way, because some won’t start and there won’t be fuel for the rest
                        When winter comes, what will you use for heating?
                      5. -2
                        11 December 2023 19: 16
                        When winter comes, what will you use for heating?
                        This is not the case in Brazil.
                        60 percent of Brazil is uninhabited jungle

                        The remaining 40% is more from India and the Kaliningrad region Yes . It’s possible to bomb everything, but there will be no bombs left for either China or Russia. That is, this will not happen.
                      6. -2
                        11 December 2023 20: 38
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Bombing everything is real

                        once again, everything is not necessary, electricity is not taken from a socket, and water is not taken from a tap
                      7. -1
                        11 December 2023 20: 50
                        everything is not necessary
                        Caliber is not nuclear, but Ukraine is not Brazil either. After almost 2 years of impacts, there is water, electricity and gas there. It is all possible to restore this. I repeat, in a hypothetical nuclear war, a maximum of 10-15 bombs will fly to South America; they are more needed in other places.
                      8. -3
                        11 December 2023 21: 30
                        The comparison is generally stupid and off topic, no one drove Sumeria into the Stone Age and didn’t set out to drive it in
                        once again a test of the modern technological structure; this is an extremely strong dependence on connections and external supplies
                        So, as a quick aside, the warehouses of finished products and raw materials of industrial enterprises in Europe are designed for 2 hours of autonomous operation, there are no warehouses for spare parts, about the same in both Americas
                        the problems of the 90s, including mortality and rampant banditry, were also due to the loss of connections, enterprises stupidly closed and did not produce products
                        this is exactly what will happen in the event of a global war
                        simple question: how long will you personally survive in the absence of electricity, water and shops not working?
                      9. 0
                        11 December 2023 21: 33
                        warehouses of finished products and raw materials of industrial enterprises in Europe are designed for 2 hours of autonomous operation, there are no warehouses for spare parts, approximately the same in both Americas
                        I worked at a European company smile . All your other theses are exactly the same fairy tales.
                        in the absence of electricity, water and non-working shops?
                        How much must be poured into the country for all this to disappear? More than three bombs.
                      10. -2
                        11 December 2023 22: 44
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        I worked at a European company

                        which one specifically?
                      11. 0
                        12 December 2023 10: 19
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Caliber is not nuclear, but Ukraine is not Brazil either. After almost 2 years of impacts, there is water, electricity and gas there.

                        Now imagine the same thing, but when beyond the western border of Ukraine there is emptiness, answering all requests in the same way: “Who are you? I don’t know you, go wherever you want, it’s not enough on your own.” wink
                        And Ukraine has physically disabled generating and distribution capacities.
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        It is all possible to restore this.

                        Yeah... if they deliver spare parts from Europe and China. laughing
                      12. -2
                        16 December 2023 12: 42
                        Why fantasize? Look how the population of Artemovsk has survived and is surviving. Without water and light. For months. So, they found a way and found water, stoves and firewood. And the destruction was worse than from a nuclear strike.
                      13. -1
                        16 December 2023 18: 43
                        Quote: stankow
                        Why fantasize? Look how the population of Artemovsk has survived and is surviving. Without water and light. For months.

                        let's not make anyone laugh with your nonsense
                        I understand that from the “7th floor” you can see better how to survive, but first, plant and grow at least a dozen bags of potatoes, using a shovel and not motor vehicles
                      14. -2
                        17 December 2023 00: 26
                        This is exactly what they did as children. Grandfather had the shovel and the donkey. No motorcycles. And not only potatoes, but also corn and hay for the sheep. And an orchard, etc.
                      15. -1
                        17 December 2023 09: 21
                        Quote: stankow
                        This is exactly what we did when we were kids.

                        excellent knowledge, boy, having a snack and living are two different things, about sheep it’s absolutely funny, you know HOW MUCH you need to manually prepare hay for the winter
                        once again, no need to tell me fairy tales, unlike you, I do this every year, I live on the earth, so I realize WHAT will happen in the absence of civilizational amenities, you will forgive me, you will die of hunger and thirst, because even 10% of you have no idea WHAT needs to be done
                      16. 0
                        12 December 2023 08: 49
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        the radius of influence of an electromagnetic pulse during an air explosion is approximately 100-115 km

                        Yes, but what's the point? It will create interference, many computers will burn out (not all), somewhere the power supply will be disrupted (not everywhere), and all this, in general, can be restored, and in a short time
                      17. +1
                        12 December 2023 10: 21
                        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                        Yes, but what's the point? It will create interference, many computers will burn out (not all), somewhere the power supply will be disrupted (not everywhere), and all this, in general, can be restored, and in a short time

                        It’s not just computers that will burn out, but control and communication systems. All civilian weak current will go to the landfill in orderly rows.
                        And how to restore it? Buy in China? Or contact Siemens? wink
                      18. 0
                        12 December 2023 10: 48
                        Quote: Alexey RA
                        It’s not just computers that will burn out, but control and communication systems

                        What is the radius from the epicenter of the explosion?:))))
                      19. -1
                        16 December 2023 18: 44
                        exactly what I indicated, if we are talking about a targeted explosion for removing semiconductors
                      20. -1
                        16 December 2023 18: 43
                        Electronics on vehicles will burn out first
                      21. -2
                        16 December 2023 12: 33
                        Nonsense. EMI has practically no effect on the power circuits of a car. Signals are restored after a failure - in milliseconds. To burn out - this is very rare, in the center.
                      22. -2
                        16 December 2023 18: 46
                        Quote: stankow
                        Nonsense. EMI has practically no effect on the power circuits of a car.
                        You know everything here, how to light a fire and how EMP works, it will be enough for you to kill the bridge on the generator, and if you take into account the fact that modern cars are crammed with electronics, then...
                      23. -2
                        17 December 2023 00: 20
                        I know, I am an engineer myself, I develop electronics for heavy equipment. There is no such interference that the power electronics will burn out. The diode holds 400 A. How do planes drop nuclear weapons? How do you continue the flight?
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                      25. -1
                        17 December 2023 16: 16
                        Okay, if you call me names like that, so be it wink So explain how the diode on the PMI resists in the mountains? To hold or not to hold? And what do they whisper to you about aviation electronics? How does she feel from the PHI of her bombs?
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                2. -1
                  11 December 2023 16: 53
                  By the way, it will be much easier for the “Cameroonians” to survive, the lower the technological structure of the country, the better it will survive the problems of the apocalypse, the tribes of the Amazon and other remote territories will survive them better than all of them, they just ran with a bow and a bare bottom, and will continue to run
    3. +2
      11 December 2023 16: 09
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      others will be washed away by pressure from without and from within and by progressive anarchy

      Is not a fact. There will be no external pressure at all) Since war is a monstrously expensive logistics operation. Even with an army that has not been beaten by the conflict, it simply cannot be dragged to its border under the proposed conditions, not to mention military operations. May God grant that the army may be preserved partially as a police force.
      Pressure from within? Are you aware that for various kinds of revolutions, the population must have a substantial excess of food and other consumables? If a person needs to get a little bread every day, he cannot “go out into the street with demands” and start smashing everything. He simply doesn't have the strength for it.
      You started the description very well, but then Hollywood defeated you.
      Those states that are fenced off by natural barriers will not survive. It doesn't matter at all. Those who will survive will be those who are able to establish internal cooperation among their citizens using the emergency option, and, of course, will effectively and decisively destroy both bandits and speculators.
      But all this is not the material on which you can write an exciting adventure book....
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 16: 36
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Those who will survive will be those who are able to establish internal cooperation among their citizens using the emergency option, and, of course, will effectively and decisively destroy both bandits and speculators.

        to the point, but many do not understand that the worst thing will happen inside the countries when it turns out that transport has stopped, and we are not even able to light a fire in the absence of matches
        such an example is the Kaliningrad region, its central part, bread is brought either from Chernyakhovsk or from Kaliningrad 60-70 km away, there is not a single bakery locally, the medicines will run out, first the elderly will begin to die and then the youth
        I’m not sure that the state will be able to take control of everything, rather a slide into feudalism, when local business princelings, having taken control of fuel and transport, will dictate their terms to the population, points of “crystallization” are possible around military units
        1. 0
          12 December 2023 08: 31
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          to the point, but many do not understand that the worst thing will happen inside the countries

          Since we “have no ideology,” the consciousness of our people is formed, firstly, by Hollywood (no one else does), and secondly, by the ideology of the elite, that is, success is brought by theft and banditry.
          So the survival of our country and our people will depend entirely on whether we are able to take control of “Gangster Petersburg” and “The Boy’s Word.”
        2. -2
          16 December 2023 12: 50
          Can't light a fire without matches? There are no lighters, all the alcohol and gasoline have burned, the batteries don’t spark, the magnesium sticks have disappeared from the backpack and 10 other ways. Well, the head of the family is...
          1. -1
            16 December 2023 18: 39
            Quote: stankow
            Can't light a fire without matches?

            stop writing nonsense if you don’t understand what we’re talking about
            Tomorrow you will be thrown from the “7th floor” to the “ground” and told, survive, deprived of all the benefits of civilization, you will die in a week or two, from hunger and cold
            he will be smart here, I live on the ground on a farm near a forest, the nearest populated area is several km away
            ps only the city idiot will spend gasoline on lighting a fire in the event of a global catastrophe
            1. -2
              17 December 2023 00: 35
              You don't light a fire with gasoline, it flares up. Don't try, you'll end up without eyelids laughing But wet a cloth and catch the spark from the battery. So much for fire without matches. There will always be a drop of gasoline, the most discharged battery will still give a spark. If you really want it and can do it without gasoline, dry cotton will do.
              1. -1
                17 December 2023 09: 18
                Quote: stankow
                But they wet a cloth and catch a spark from the battery

                Well, yes, there are no matches, there is no civilization, but you have a battery in your stash
                boy, don’t teach your uncle what he can teach you, unlike you, I live on earth, once again for the “experts”, in the event of a global catastrophe, gasoline will be worth its weight in gold, you won’t have batteries at all, about cotton this is funny
                By the way, if it burns very poorly in the mass, the surface burns and that’s where the combustion ends
      2. 0
        11 December 2023 19: 26
        When tens of millions suddenly freed from work in “peacetime” realize that they do not have post-up skills, but have a desire to live, families and stupid hunger and fear - they are very... quickly reorient or die. Much faster than any mired in bloated bureaucracy and softened multi-level democracy, it will spit out something articulate and adequate.
        Hollywood has nothing to do with this - the current authorities in most countries are not crisis managers, they have a small outlook and very dull efficiency.
        Most likely, the majority will slow down and anarchy will set in (if it slows down, this will last for the time period for which the food and water stored in the hut will be enough for a conventional cell of society, that is, this is 2-3 days at most). Not all countries can stupidly feed their population, even without taking into account the polluted ecology and the “nuclear winter” - what will they tell the population? They will say - “go to the neighbors while they are stupid.” And it won’t be particularly important for them to eat what their neighbors have - it will immediately turn out that there are a LOT of people everywhere, they have big needs but 0 skill.
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 20: 42
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          quickly reorient or die

          second, as for reorientation, this is reasoning from the 7th floor of a high-rise building
          the problem is that we have lost a huge amount of skills and there are VERY many of us, it is IMPOSSIBLE to feed this abyss with manual labor
        2. +1
          12 December 2023 08: 32
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          Hollywood has nothing to do with this - the current authorities in most countries are not crisis managers, they have a small outlook and very dull efficiency.

          This is Hollywood - there is not the slightest hope for the state...
  19. -2
    11 December 2023 12: 26
    I was reading the article and suddenly I remembered Tamashev’s bullshit piece, I started reading it, I reached the stage as the crowd was running into the subway. Bullshit. There is continuous masturbation of Caucasians (a young, handsome Caucasian policeman, Karl in Moscow?!), humiliation of Russians and other nonsense. Well, at least there couldn’t be a stampede in the subway - the crowd was outside, which means there would be a stampede at the entrance where there was a cordon. In general, cheap. If Glukhovsky writes, it’s clear that he writes with talent—there are nonsense, but you read it in one go. If you don't know how to write, don't write.
    Ceterum censeo Washingtonum delendam esse
    1. +2
      11 December 2023 12: 33
      Glukhovsky clearly writes with talent
      Glukhovsky is a Russophobe who writes for teenagers, and in a primitive way (so that it gets into low-power brains). The characters are flat, the plot is cliched.
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 17: 23
        I only read the Post-primitive, somewhere a little stupid, but, damn it, scary and atmospheric. Tamashev’s nonsense cannot be compared.
        Centrum censeo Washingtonum delendam esse
    2. +2
      11 December 2023 13: 41
      All markers have different tastes and colors. Some people like Tarmashev, others like Glukhovsky.
      Tarmashev also wrote about the demographic situation that may develop in the future, and a little about its reasons.
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 17: 20
        Yes, Russians are all drunks and wimps, but the proud mountaineers are just super. It reeks of Russophobia. Maybe he wants it to be like this? The khachapuri itself?
        Centrum censeo Washingtonum delendam esse
        1. +1
          12 December 2023 08: 52
          Russians are all drunks and wimps, but the proud highlanders are just super.

          I read the entire Tarmashev series, but didn’t see anything about it anywhere. Maybe you could give me a quote?
          The main character is Russian, a tough guy, a scout and a special forces soldier. The main character is a match.
          1. 0
            15 December 2023 13: 12
            She and Dilara simultaneously turned around towards the sound and saw a man in army camouflage without insignia arguing with a policeman, with a huge backpack of the same camouflage on his back. The hefty redneck loomed over the not at all frail police officer, who was almost a head shorter than him in height, and pointed with his hand across the Garden Ring, towards the entrance to the Blue Line metro station.

            “I’m sorry, but this is impossible,” a strong Caucasian policeman with the figure of a fighter blocked the path of a powerful big man, not allowing him to pass through the cordon onto the Garden Ring road, clogged with parked cars.
            To each his own Tarmasheva.



            I thought maybe I was mistaken, but no, my comments are still hanging on loveread. A powerful strongman and a redneck is a type of Russian.
            Centrum censeo washingtonum delendam esse
  20. -3
    11 December 2023 12: 27
    The saddest thing is that, without any fiction, the world is already on the edge of the abyss and it got there on the initiative of the “most important and responsible” country - the United States, which professes the principle “either you obey, or I will destroy you.” In conditions where there is no clear military alliance between the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, the United States may take radical military steps. And only a clearly defined military alliance between Russia and China will put a hard barrier on the path to the abyss. Otherwise, fantasy will become reality faster than anyone thinks
    1. +4
      11 December 2023 13: 16
      Well, the DPRK, Cuba and Iran do not obey, for some reason they have not yet been destroyed.
  21. 0
    11 December 2023 13: 27
    Self-destruction (of any kind) of humanity can only occur while it is divided into antagonistic classes, states, nations and groups. The existing dominant socio-political and economic formation - capitalism - is now preventing us from overcoming the division.
    1. +4
      11 December 2023 14: 00
      Self-destruction (of any kind) of humanity can only occur while it is divided into antagonistic classes, states, nations and groups.
      Capitalism is more terrible than any hydrogen or atomic bombs. It has many ways to destroy humanity. Everyone sees this, but tries not to notice
  22. -1
    11 December 2023 13: 38
    There will be no nuclear winter. In the 80s, fairy tales about the death of civilization, nuclear winter and summer, frightened the population in order to smoothly approach the collapse of the Soviet Union. They made films, for example "Letters from a Dead Man". The task was completed, people were scared, nuclear warheads and missiles were cut into metal, including not nuclear ones, but quite ordinary tactical ones like "Oka", weapons-grade uranium from warheads was sold for pennies in the USA under the Gore-Chernomyrdin agreement.
    1. 0
      11 December 2023 16: 26
      Quote: glory1974
      There will be no nuclear winter.

      there will be hunger, thirst, cold (or will you be able to warm your apartment in winter without central heating?) and epidemics
      It's enough
      Let's all die, and then those who later will be very jealous of those who came before
      1. +2
        12 December 2023 08: 42
        cold is not nuclear winter. Nuclear winter is a sharp drop in temperature on the planet due to the influence of nuclear explosions.
        Hunger, thirst, cold, epidemics, were, are and will be, regardless of nuclear war. In the 90s in Russia there was famine, and the heating of entire regions was turned off, and epidemics; not everyone survived, of course, but the survivors do not envy the dead, there is no need to exaggerate.
    2. +1
      11 December 2023 18: 09
      In the 80s, both sides had more warheads order more than now. There would be enough for everyone even without winter. So they were right to fear a nuclear war. Now at least someone will survive if the worst happens.
  23. BAI
    +2
    11 December 2023 13: 46
    1.
    he called on people to report to the nearest civil defense facility and bring with them a change of clothes, a set of bed linen and dry rations.

    The answer is wrong. That's right - run away from the big city, with everything you need to survive.
    2. Regarding radioactive contamination. Depends on the type of charge and explosion. From the absence of pollution from space nuclear weapons, to thousands of years of deadly radiation from a ground-based neutron explosion.
    In 1949, the first dosimetrists appeared at the epicenter of the nuclear explosion 45 minutes after the explosion.
    1. +2
      11 December 2023 16: 27
      Quote: BAI
      The answer is wrong. That's right - run away from the big city, with everything you need to survive.

      and what is necessary for survival, not for a week or a month, but for decades?!
      enlighten a village resident standing near the forest
      1. BAI
        -1
        11 December 2023 18: 43
        for decades?!
        enlighten the village resident

        I enlighten.
        There will be no life for decades in areas of sufficiently severe destruction. And in moderate and weak zones - you don’t have to stock up, nothing will happen
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 19: 05
          Quote: BAI
          you don't have to stock up, nothing will happen

          Exactly, what will you eat?
          and what to treat and, most importantly, where?
    2. 0
      12 December 2023 08: 48
      up to thousands of years of deadly radiation from a ground-based neutron explosion.

      The neutron bomb was specifically designed to leave material infrastructure intact. When a neutron bomb is detonated, penetrating radiation occurs for several tens of seconds, other damaging factors are reduced, that is, it is less destructive.
  24. +1
    11 December 2023 15: 29
    Russia must build a large and sufficiently powerful traditional army.
    resist external attack.
    and increase tactical and strategic nuclear weapons.
    and add many sending methods.
    Construction of new silos.
    Production of mobile launch vehicles.
    Stationary missile bases.
    Camouflaged trucks with nuclear missiles Camouflaged train with nuclear missiles Camouflaged container ships
    To launch nuclear weapons. Air-to-ground missiles.
    and nuclear bombs launched from aircraft.
    Launching missiles from warships.
    and military submarines.
    Launching cement rockets.
    Development of nuclear baggage for implantation
    In all cities of Western Europe and North America. Japan. South Korea. Australia. New Zealand. Anyone who might be involved would be vulnerable during the war.
    USA or walk and put your suitcase near the base and leave
    and activate it remotely and destroy the base. America and the West no longer exist without big cities.
    They say that Russia should begin dispersing the population deep into Russia into small settlements and smaller cities.
  25. +1
    11 December 2023 16: 04
    . In a new type of war, everything is decided not by mobilization capabilities or even megatons of warheads, but by information, coordination, accuracy and speed.
    as it turned out, it was the mob’s capabilities, stocks and volume of weapons, thank God they haven’t reached the “megaton” yet
  26. +1
    11 December 2023 20: 29
    In the event of a massive use of nuclear weapons, even if a prolonged and severe cold snap does not occur, the destruction of social infrastructure and governance will have the most tragic impact on the affected states and their populations, especially in “just” big cities and megalopolises...
    1. 0
      11 December 2023 20: 45
      Quote: WFP-1
      especially in “just” big cities and metropolises...

      rural areas will get no less, yes, it will be a little better, but not for long
      the difference between me and the one who sits on the 7th floor of a high-rise building will be that I will have the opportunity to take water from a well (although now it is pouring from the tap), but a resident of a residential area will not have such an opportunity, all other problems will not go away, which there is something to treat
      1. 0
        11 December 2023 21: 03
        Exactly!!! Residents of rural areas, the farther it is from the epicenters of explosions, the longer they will hold out, but the finale... That's why I wrote:
        especially in “just” big cities and metropolises...
        1. 0
          11 December 2023 21: 33
          Quote: WFP-1
          the farther it is from the epicenters of the explosions, the longer they will last

          remoteness will not depend on the word at all, the duration of existence will depend only on energy reserves and medicines, but again a month or three, at most anyone will be lucky for half a year before the cold weather, I think the survival rate is 1-5 percent and a slide into a cross between the Stone Age and the Middle Ages
          1. 0
            12 December 2023 17: 23
            Yes and no: everything is clear about reserves and this is certainly true, but the distance from the epicenter of the “neighboring” explosion also plays a more than serious role...
            1. -1
              12 December 2023 17: 39
              in this case, I’m not talking about the damaging factor of nuclear weapons, but about the fact that we won’t survive without the usual technologies
  27. +1
    15 December 2023 02: 32
    the roar came about five seconds later

    1700 meters from the epicenter of the explosion.
    That is, without declaring war. Why this outdated formality in the XNUMXst century...

    A common cliché that has no basis in reality. There are no agreements or generally accepted international rules requiring a declaration of war. No convention on the laws and customs of war requires this and never has.
    1. 0
      16 December 2023 13: 03
      More. The shock wave overcomes the first kilometer at supersonic speed.
  28. -2
    17 December 2023 20: 43
    I haven’t read Doronin, but I’ll try.
    As for Tarmashev... Who the hell told you all that he is a GRU employee? Either former or current. The fact that he is a huge man does not mean that he is somewhere somehow... And he is frankly a weak writer, to say the least. I read “Heritage” at one time, it went down beautifully, especially since the author successfully integrated into the text a real existing person at that time. That person very fortunately turned out to be female and extremely attractive in appearance. "Do you want me to write a novel about you?" - "Want!". I must say that the novel was a success, the author tried very hard. If I were him, assuming a romantic component, I would too... All his other verses are not worth the paper. If anyone is interested in a more or less predictable post-apocalypse, then I recommend paying attention to the same Glukhovsky. He is also a so-so author, but his “Post” just corresponds to the current moment and its prospects.
  29. 0
    15 March 2024 12: 16
    Alexey Doronin has not only one book - Black Day. It is, rather, the name of a large series, a series of books, and Black Day is the first book in the series. There are others in the following order: 40 days later (BH2), Morning of a new era (BH3), Ghosts of Yamantau (BH4), Generation of Ash (BH5), Children of August (BH6), Hour of Wandering (BH7), Avenger's Road (BH8) , Sunset Land (BH9). A 10th and 11th final book is planned. The Black Day universe is large and told in a very frighteningly straightforward manner. Especially, of course, the first 5 books, where, without nonsense about mutants, super radiation, pigs raised on feces, the state and model of behavior of those who were unlucky to survive are expressed... Scary, as close as possible to the state of the human psyche during critical situations, really . The bottom line is that man is a wolf to man... when power and the civilizational core, held by the state’s right to violence, fall, the entire predatory, bestial essence of man will break through. Everyone who had more or less weapons and personnel crushed food warehouses/markets/shopping centers, the remnants of the army instantly turned into armed bandits, refugees, prisoners from the surviving colonies, destroying all the villages through which they rolled like a roller of death, famine, cold, cannibalism - this is just a superficial description of what will happen after...