Strategic impasse in Ukraine

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Strategic impasse in Ukraine


Disposition 2023–2024


The situation that has developed in Ukraine after the unsuccessful summer offensive can be divided into components - political and military.



Let's start with the first one.

After five months of an extremely inexpressive offensive by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny, in an interview with The Economist, described the situation on the fronts as a dead end. In fact, the military leader of Ukraine formalized the end of the offensive and the transition of events to a new phase. The subtleties of the situation are not fully understood, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces are clearly preparing for strategic defense.

The point of view of the military leadership is not shared by Zelensky, who claims that nothing is over yet and continues to talk about the Ukrainian Armed Forces entering the 1991 borders of Ukraine. Many sources began to talk about some kind of split in the political circles of the Ukrainian regime.

Despite all the optimism for Russia, the situation is far from a real confrontation between Zelensky and Zaluzhny, as they are trying to present it. But a new outline of the internal routine in Kyiv is being outlined. Zaluzhny, as the main alpha male of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, enjoys unquestioned authority in Ukraine. Both among the military and among the civilian population sympathizing with the nationalists. Zelensky has no guts to remove the commander-in-chief, although only he has the mandate to do so.

There are rumors that it was decided to undermine Zaluzhny’s position by eliminating two of his close associates - the commander of the Special Operations Forces of Ukraine Viktor Khorenko and his assistant Gennady Chistyakov. While the first was removed from his post at the request of the Minister of Defense, the second was literally liquidated.

The explosion of a grenade in the hands of Chistyakov is now explained by three versions - revenge/warning to Zaluzhny from the Presidential Office, the work of the Russian special services and the banal inability to use weapons. However, the assertion that the Ukrainian Armed Forces major was unable to distinguish a German DM 51A2 grenade from a dummy does not stand up to criticism. Zaluzhny also does not believe in the accidental death of his assistant. According to his version, “an unknown explosive device went off in one of the gifts.”


The author and executor of the failed offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is now looking for a recipe for hacking Russian defenses in 2024

Summing up the events, we can confidently speak about the beginning of a search for those to blame in the highest circles of Ukraine. They are looking for someone to blame primarily for the failure of the summer offensive. The Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to advance only seventeen kilometers in five months, having spent all their offensive potential. Zaluzhny’s dry and clear logic is not to the liking of Zelensky’s cabinet. The latter continues to talk about continuing the offensive even in winter. Zelensky’s faith in the power of the Ukrainian army is increasingly looking like Hitler’s dreams about Wenck’s army. Dull confidence in the Ukrainian army reaching the borders of 1991 will cost the military and foreign sponsors dearly.

There is tension at the top of the Kyiv regime, and it is intensifying along with the traditional freezing of fronts for the coming winter. But the political situation in Ukraine is now determined not by the mood in Zelensky’s team, or even by the volume of Western assistance, but by the course of military operations. Until the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffer catastrophic losses, preferably in a short period of time, the deadlock on the fronts is unlikely to move forward.

The offensive is over


The end of 2023 will obviously end with Russian superiority in defense. The world-famous “Surovikin Line” seems to have become the most impassable line of defense in modern times. stories. Zaluzhny himself describes it as 15–20 km minefields, over which there are constantly hanging drones observers. As soon as the enemy invades the defense lines, artillery immediately begins to fire at him.

The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine remembered the name “Agriculture” very well and told the whole world about it through The Economist. According to him, the remote mining system quickly locks the erupted units into fire bags, dooming the nationalists to inevitable death. This is where the army works aviation Russia, and the widespread use of electronic warfare systems. The latter quite effectively reduced the dangers from HIMARS and Excalibur, and practically paralyzed the army of Ukrainian drones, which they boasted so much about back in the spring. To be completely precise, electronic warfare did not allow the concentration of large masses of attack quadcopters, which significantly reduced their efficiency. This is far from a complete assessment of the progress of the enemy’s offensive, and it requires a separate discussion.


For the failure of the offensive, Zaluzhny should blame not only himself and Zelensky, but also the American leadership. The Pentagon simulated the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2023 on supercomputers at least four times, and in all cases the nationalists reached the borders of 2014. Now, most likely, they are correcting artificial intelligence algorithms for offensive planning 2.0. How NATO generals even came up with the idea of ​​sending the Ukrainians on an attack with virtually no aviation or air defense support is beyond my comprehension.

An enemy offensive that ends ingloriously is always good. But the question arises - what to do now with the initiative that has passed to the Russian Army?

The deadlock situation at the front is associated with the transition of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to strategic defense. Many are now saying that time is on Russia’s side; they say that the total economic potential leaves no chance for the Kyiv regime. We'll spread it with a roller, just give it time. Just how long is this? The obvious depletion of Western arsenals is quite conditional.

On the one hand, the enemies really turned down the valve on gift distribution. No one is ready to sacrifice their defense capability, especially in light of the events in Israel, when even for the anti-terrorist operation the Americans had to throw in shells. At that time, Jerusalem had not even begun the ground phase of the invasion. Ukraine is not expected to attack this coming winter, and playing defensively is always less energy-consuming. They will give out exactly as much as is necessary to contain the Russian Army. With the caveat that NATO analysts with their supercomputers calculated everything correctly.

On the other hand, the delay in supplies to Ukraine is temporary. By the end of next year, the first investments in the expansion of the Western military-industrial complex will begin, and in a couple of years it will begin to operate at full capacity. NATO countries have sharply moved away from the concept of reasonably sufficient accumulation of weapons to the creation of extensive mobilization reserves. A lot of shells and missiles are needed, and understanding of this came only in 2022. Part of the master's table will certainly go to Ukraine, and it will be a lot.

Apparently, for the next one and a half to two years the ball will be in Russia's court. If an offensive is planned, then it must be carried out precisely during this window of opportunity. Later it will be more difficult. But the positional impasse did not disappear. Now there is a stalemate at the front that is amazing in its complexity.

The “Surovikin Line” will obviously go down in the history of military art, but no one is stopping anyone from building a similar one on the enemy side. Something similar has already been built in Donbass since 2014. Winter in the rest of Ukraine will be relatively mild and it won’t hurt to bring thousands of “dragon teeth” made in Ukraine. Bridges across the country are intact - what problems could there be? And this is just one issue with enemy logistics, which we destroy very conditionally. When analysts say that time is now on Russia’s side, it is worth remembering the slow but sure strengthening of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defensive lines.

The further you go, the more difficult it will be to break through them. The second paradox was the forced dispersal of combat formations along the front line. Moreover, in Russia this was aggravated by the inconvenient and longer face of the arc. Reconnaissance now allows you to track the movements of large units and cover with pre-emptive strikes. Even in the operational depth of defense. That is why we are seeing an offensive in small attack groups - battalions and regiments wisely do not go on assaults, so as not to be destroyed on the way.

As a result, there are no significant defense breakthroughs on both sides. How to secretly move an army corps to the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to break through the defense? A very sensitive issue for the General Staff.

The obvious deadlock at the front does not mean a total and irrevocable transition of the special operation into a sluggish mode. Russia is obviously accumulating reserves, and it has been much easier to do this over the past year - active defense takes much less strength than attacks. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were exhausted by the end of the year, but we were not. But sufficient reserves have not yet been formed, and the military-industrial complex has not had time to sufficiently saturate the units with military equipment.

Time is running out, and now we will have to adjust the offensive strategy. The West will clearly take into account all the nuances and pump up Ukraine with air defense and electronic warfare systems, which will complicate the situation.

However, the art of war is an art because improvisations can significantly correct the landscape of creation. And in the Russian Army there are enough such creators - whatever one may say, our country learns to fight much faster than the enemy.
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  1. -28
    14 November 2023 04: 02
    Until the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffer catastrophic losses, it is advisable in a short period of time, deadlock on the fronts it is unlikely to move from a dead point.
    belay No need for provocations. This is a dead end for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and we are in no hurry. request And no negotiations.
    1. +11
      14 November 2023 04: 46
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      and we're in no hurry.

      Well, there is no reason to delay!
      1. +11
        14 November 2023 06: 43
        The main thing is to avoid a long-term deadlock. Otherwise we will get a familiar situation.
        The Iran-Iraq conflict led to a war that claimed many lives.
        L. I. Brezhnev spoke about the Iran-Iraq conflict as follows in the early 1980s:
        “The conflict, tragic in its senselessness, continues
        between Iran and Iraq. This is a clear example of how dangerous
        for countries that are not yet strong enough to end up in the millstones
        imperialist policy. Who benefits from this war? Certainly,
        not Iraq and not Iran. They will only get a destroyed economy and
        great loss of life. But someone benefited from the war, this
        it is already visible. In front of the whole world, there is an increase in
        foreign military penetration into the Near and Middle
        East... Calculations are also being made to weaken
        anti-imperialist orientation of policies like Iran,
        and Iraq. And for all this, two neighboring peoples pay their
        blood. That is why the USSR resolutely advocates peaceful
        resolution of this conflict.”
    2. -14
      14 November 2023 06: 00
      The Ukrainian Armed Forces lost twice as much as the Americans for their defeat in Vietnam in a short period of time - “Until the Ukrainian Armed Forces suffer catastrophic losses,” and what then, until the last Ukrainian?
      1. +5
        14 November 2023 21: 03
        Catastrophic losses in the army are worth catastrophic losses for the Russian Federation. All this is reminiscent of the Iran-Iraq war, where as a result two states were undermined, one of which was then invaded by the United States.
      2. +1
        15 November 2023 13: 57
        More of ours have already died than in Afghanistan
    3. +24
      14 November 2023 07: 19
      Is the Russian Federation going to conduct a military training exercise in Ukraine for the next 100 years?
      We need to end Nazi Ukraine before 2025 - the Russian economy and population will not tolerate constant spending on SVO.
      Our soldiers have not left the trenches for 2 years - no vacations, no days off.
      1. -5
        14 November 2023 09: 00
        For the RF Armed Forces, the way out of the positional impasse is seen in accumulating sufficient reserves for an offensive not only along the entire front line, but also from the Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk regions and from the territory of Belarus. To denazify and demilitarize one of the largest countries in Europe, a large army is needed, Ukrainian fronts are needed. The military-industrial complex must increase production output by an order of magnitude. 5-10 thousand drones should be produced daily. The drones must cover the entire sky and drive the Eurofascists underground.
        Why don't we apply the Spanish experience in creating anti-fascist international brigades? Millions of people around the world sympathize with our fight against Eurofascism.
        1. +4
          14 November 2023 13: 20
          5-10 thousand drones should be produced daily. Drones should cover the entire sky and drive the Eurofascists underground
          . Reincarnation of Tukhachevsky, this time with a beard.
          1. 0
            14 November 2023 17: 05
            In no case, a very effective weapon. The most effective currently is on LBS. Both strike and reconnaissance cost pennies. If “the whole sky is closed,” the adversary has nowhere to go. All these "Chimeras" and other prodigies will become scrap metal.
            1. -1
              15 November 2023 11: 35
              . If “the whole sky is closed,” the adversary has nowhere to go.

              The problem of managing a cloud of drones is emerging; AI is needed, and this is bad in the Russian Federation.
        2. +3
          14 November 2023 13: 28
          If hostilities begin from the Belgorod region, what will happen when the Ukrainians start shelling Belgorod like Donetsk.
        3. 0
          14 November 2023 18: 55
          For the RF Armed Forces, the way out of the positional impasse is seen in accumulating sufficient reserves for an offensive not only along the entire front line, but also from the Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk regions and from the territory of Belarus.

          You can't be strong everywhere. This is Brusilov’s fatal mistake during the development of the 1916 offensive. It is necessary to immobilize (deprive of maneuver) the Ukrainian Armed Forces and strike through Sarny-Rivne-Ternopil-Kamenets-Podolsky-Chisinau to Odessa and thereby end the organized part of the confrontation. Next - betrayal of the governors and an honorable peace for Zaluzhny (subject to the elimination of Zelensky and the Verkhovna Rada). I have already written about the capture by mining with special ammunition, the occupation regime and the clearing of the territory with the settlement of the Slavs in the Krasnye North and the Far East.
          Sorry, but leave all the Trotskyist nonsense about the international brigades to political officers. No one, except the extreme bastard, will exchange the Motherland for the “ideals of humanism and brotherhood of peoples.” Experience of 1920, 1939 and 1945 - to help you.
        4. -1
          14 November 2023 21: 37
          Quote: Bearded
          Why don't we apply the Spanish experience in creating anti-fascist international brigades?
          In our time, there are much fewer people willing to fight for ideals, and the Russian Federation cannot offer much money, especially in foreign currency. Those wishing to serve for Russian citizenship will mainly be Masturbeks. But to serve and fight is two big differences, as they said in Odessa before the introduction of sovereign language in all areas.
        5. 0
          18 November 2023 18: 41
          “Why don’t we apply the Spanish experience in creating anti-fascist international brigades?” -
          Who is this from? Of those who jumped on the Maidan, or of those who indifferently watched the fire in the house of the Trade Unions? I remember when Odessa residents chased the Nazis through the streets of Odessa and where were they all? They were destroyed, and Odessa fell silent, frightened by armed terror. Now there are only ordinary people there, incapable of armed resistance and active Nazis. So what now? There are a lot of weapons in the city, but there is one rule: my hut is on the edge, and how can I live another day. Does anyone really think that they can survive in a city subjected to sympathetic bombings and artillery attacks? The cancerous tumor must be removed.
      2. +5
        14 November 2023 09: 04
        The Caucasian War lasted from 1817 to 1864. Rotation is unlikely - for this you need to keep the same amount of money in the rear as on the front line, and the economy, in today’s version, will not support this...
      3. +9
        14 November 2023 11: 18
        Exactly. We are not rubber in the production of weapons, especially since some of them depend on imported components. Having been mobilized for a year in the trenches, rotation is needed, which means a new wave of conscription. The past was difficult, a cloud of people fled the country, taking with them money, taxes and workers (brains).
      4. -6
        14 November 2023 18: 27
        I repeat for the 101st time. Tactical nuclear strikes on key infrastructure facilities, warehouses, troop concentrations and headquarters will shorten the duration of the war by 100 times and save tens of thousands of lives of our guys and, oddly enough, soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
        1. -5
          14 November 2023 19: 01
          Tactical nuclear strikes on key infrastructure facilities, warehouses, troop concentrations and headquarters will shorten the duration of the war by 100 times and save tens of thousands of lives of our guys and, oddly enough, soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

          You are right, Alexey!
          No one understands the meaning of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as anything other than “senseless bloodshed.” Meanwhile, the loss of 120 thousand Japanese at once and 300 thousand in total saved at least 3,5 million Japanese and 1 million allied lives.
          However, cliches are tenacious, and the case of avoiding a lot of blood by shedding a little is not about us.
        2. +1
          14 November 2023 21: 41
          Quote: Alexey Lantukh
          Tactical nuclear strikes
          Are you sure that, having received a report about the start of the use of nuclear weapons, senile Joe will not press the red button out of fear? AND? Is the whole world in ruins?
          1. -1
            15 November 2023 06: 04
            Dear WWI Grandfather's Revolver, Would You Press That Button? And besides, your half-smart old man hasn’t had any button for a long time - everything is decided by the Operations Department of the KNSH.
      5. 0
        15 November 2023 08: 13
        Where are these warriors planning to get out of the trenches? To our factories with wild production standards or to logistics for 12-hour shifts as loaders? In the trenches, at least either death is quick or the salary is good.
    4. +9
      14 November 2023 10: 20
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      This is a dead end for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and we are in no hurry. And no negotiations.


      So this is a dead end for us, the Kherson/Kharkov region was not given up on a good life) almost daily shelling of border towns - it’s also impossible to push back the enemy (soon it will be almost 2 years), and somehow make serious progress.... isn’t this a dead end? ??

      Soon the Second World War will be overtaken in terms of timing because... There are no prerequisites for breaking through the defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, even if there are local successes (like Avdeevka, Kupyansk), this will not strategically change the situation... unfortunately.

      So it turns out that either the positional clash will last for years, or they will slow down the situation through negotiations... they will freeze the conflict along the current line of contact and negotiate.
    5. +5
      14 November 2023 10: 39
      What are you personally in no hurry to tell those mobilized and their relatives? Prigozhin’s criminals have been free for a long time and are now carrying out lawlessness in full, normal honest people - like tsarist recruits - have been taken away, it seems, almost for life.
      1. +6
        14 November 2023 16: 22
        It's easy to get into a fight, but difficult to get out of it with dignity. Especially when he miscalculated his strength and underestimated the enemy. Moreover, the end of the fight is not in sight at all. And no one knows which way the situation will swing.
      2. 0
        14 November 2023 18: 23
        In general, there is no need to dramatize, but there is a problem:
        Volnovakha, DPR, October 31, 2023, 13:12 - IA Regnum.
        Suspects of the murder of nine people in Volnovakha in the Donetsk People's Republic were detained - two Russian soldiers. According to preliminary data, it was contract employees who shot the residents of a private house, among whom were two children.
        Baza Telegram channel
        In the Lipetsk region, a fighter from the Wagner PMC beat a four-year-old girl to death. The man came to the region on vacation, reports the Baza Telegram channel. A 31-year-old Russian man quarreled with his ex-wife and severely beat her. Then the woman’s daughter from her first marriage fell into his arm. Wagner hit her on the head several times. The beaten girl died.
  2. +6
    14 November 2023 04: 38
    Nothing has been decided yet. The security forces are trying to crack the Surovikin line from Kherson. And it’s hard there now. The next month will show what and how
    1. -4
      14 November 2023 07: 34
      Nothing has been decided yet. The security forces are trying to crack the Surovikin line from Kherson. And it’s hard there now. The next month will show what and how

      Kadyrov will also show what and how. Deeply offended believers are a factor about which the author bashfully remained silent, and this is almost a decisive factor.
      As far as I remember, according to Semigin’s statement, which he allegedly did not post, but was nevertheless able to delete, “Akhmat” kicks the RF Armed Forces, just as the uncompromising Adam kicks Zhuravel. It’s as if this fake is being released under the brakes, although others are receiving multi-year sentences for discrediting the Russian army.
      Will our victory (what it should look like is unclear), or a truce, or peace, mean the final assertion of the dominance of the aggressive part of the believers? How will they behave if the Russian Federation retreats?
    2. +1
      14 November 2023 09: 02
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      Nothing has been decided yet. The security forces are trying to crack the Surovikin line from Kherson. And it’s hard there now. The next month will show what and how

      Kherson bridgeheads are like traps for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. How will they supply them through the Dnieper? There you can arrange a meat grinder better than Bakhmutskaya.
      1. AAK
        +7
        14 November 2023 14: 09
        Well, somehow they have been supplying for the third month already, they will continue to supply... and as for the terms of the SVO, they, unfortunately, are determined not by the remnants of Russian military thought, but by politicians, together with the "Pinocchios" and bureaucrats from the Ministry of Defense
  3. +7
    14 November 2023 04: 54
    But a new outline is emerging

    Oil laughing
    1. +10
      14 November 2023 07: 52
      The end of 2023 will obviously end

      What a gem! The ending is ending! Did the author even finish school? Or is this a modern victim of the Unified State Exam? Well, it’s impossible to read without tears...
      1. +5
        14 November 2023 11: 50
        The author graduated from school! :)
        EGEvist, however!
    2. 0
      14 November 2023 23: 14
      Formally, yes (based on the same Old High German rîʒʒan), in fact two different words that came into the Russian language in different ways at different times.
  4. +21
    14 November 2023 05: 11
    . Many are now saying that time is on Russia’s side; they say that the total economic potential leaves no chance for the Kyiv regime. Let's spread it with a roller

    The technological economy of the golden billion is working for the Kiev regime. The only thing that saves us from saturating the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons is that the collective West has not yet transferred its economy and industry to a war footing. And the article was absolutely correct about the window of opportunity for our offensive (a year and a half). And then the situation can change greatly. Bandera's lack of shells, barrels, electronic warfare, air defense, aviation... can smoothly flow into excess. And then what?

    . whatever one may say, our country is learning to fight much faster than the enemy

    How does this affect the battle map?
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      1. +22
        14 November 2023 06: 21
        Quote: Masada II Car Limo Service
        CONCLUSION ONE - Russia is now AT HIGH

        At such a height that it becomes scary.

        Quote: Masada II Car Limo Service
        YOU OWE YOUR MANAGEMENT to thank.....!!!

        The policies of our leadership have led us to where we are now. The methodical mutual destruction of the once united Slavic people cannot be called positive. And a single country cannot win a war of attrition with the entire collective West. Unprecedented sanctions and the arrest of the egg capsule will also not benefit our development. And many mistakes could have been avoided if there had not been a break from reality in the rosy planning.
        1. +2
          14 November 2023 06: 52
          “once united” Where have you seen this “unity”? 30 years have passed. Everything has changed. Finally, forget this mantra about “unity”.
          1. +1
            14 November 2023 07: 14
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            30 years have passed. Everything has changed. Finally, forget this mantra about “unity”

            What is 30 years for nations in a historical context?
            But back in 2022, the Russian president said the following:

            . Russians and Ukrainians are one people, Russian President Vladimir Putin said, noting that he will never give up this belief. RIA Novosti, 03.03.2022. ...

            And I completely agree with him.
            1. +2
              14 November 2023 23: 21
              Quote: Stas157
              What is 30 years for nations in a historical context?

              Sometimes 30 years is an abyss. In 1783, after a lost war, England recognized the independence of the United States. After 30 years, she was already at war with the Americans as a foreign people who could be defeated, imposed indemnities, seized some territories, but not reunite with them.
              1. -1
                15 November 2023 10: 22
                Why should the arrogant Saxons be an example for us? There are already few of us left for such vast territories, and the fratricidal war that arose as a result of the huckster coup and rejection and reformatting of part of the nation under the Western matrix could lead to their loss. On the outskirts there are a handful of forelocks, the main population there is Russian.
          2. +1
            14 November 2023 10: 27
            Where have you seen this “unity”?

            My relatives lived and still live in Ukraine. What does 30 years have to do with it? Have they become less like family to me?
            No, I demand that, as before, we live with them in the same country. To do this, it is necessary to remove the Kyiv government, which the people did not choose. They themselves cannot do this.
            1. -1
              14 November 2023 12: 01
              Quote: glory1974
              My relatives lived and still live in Ukraine. What does 30 years have to do with it? Have they become less like family to me?
              No, I demand that, as before, we live with them in the same country.

              But I don’t want to live in the same country with them. If you really want to live in the same country with them, then go to Ukraine and live with them.
              1. +1
                15 November 2023 10: 39
                I don’t want to live in the same country with them.

                This way you can reach state-cities if you and your relatives do not want to live in the same country.
                If you really want to live in the same country with them, then go to Ukraine and live with them.

                If there were Russian authorities in Ukraine, then I would go. For centuries, Russian people lived there and everything was fine. And now Russophobes rule there and ban the Russian language and culture. While they rule there, you can only go there by tank.
            2. 0
              14 November 2023 16: 28
              But my relatives live in Germany, so what, now Germany should be annexed to Russia?
              1. -5
                14 November 2023 17: 14
                Maybe Germany too. Why not? It will remain Germany, but it will be our Germany, like the GDR. We lived in the Union of 15 republics, we lived together, and also the VD and CMEA. Power, Empire!
              2. +2
                15 November 2023 10: 44
                I have relatives living in Germany, so what, now Germany should be annexed to Russia?

                And if you have relatives in Mali, should Mali also be annexed? No, of course, your reasoning is not correct.
                I lived with my relatives in one country, which suddenly split into two, contrary to the will of the people. One people found itself divided into two parts. Germany was also divided into two parts, the GDR and the Federal Republic of Germany. And they united into one. The relatives were reunited.
                The Germans can do it, but why can’t the Russians? It is also possible and necessary.
                1. +1
                  15 November 2023 13: 52
                  So there it’s voluntary, but here it’s like
                  1. 0
                    15 November 2023 16: 29
                    And so, the majority of Russians there do not want to live in the organized criminal group of the forelocks, but they have already mowed down all the passionaries, and the rest are afraid and have adapted. It’s true that they don’t like the predatory Russian feudal-bourgeois way of life either. They were compulsively oriented towards geyropa, incl. and opposition parties to Bandera. It seems to them that they live according to the laws and the regime is softer. It will not be difficult to return these Russians to the mainstream of Russianness. Those who are poisoned by the poison of Banderaism and independence, mainly young people, will have to be dealt with harshly, but it is impossible to tear the Russian people apart and give up their territory and their own. What the dreamers of candle factories did, they themselves are now reaping, the comprador authorities are milking them to the fullest, they need the means to correct their mistakes.
        2. +6
          14 November 2023 07: 49
          Quote: Stas157
          The policies of our leadership have led us to where we are now. The methodical mutual destruction of the once united Slavic people cannot be called positive.

          I watched for 20 (twenty) years how artificially designed and prepared this war. They sowed discord and resentment... contempt and hatred. They sowed division...etc.
          They used all kinds of lies and fraud. Well, etc.
          Quote: Stas157
          And many mistakes could have been avoided

          IMHO .. These are not “mistakes” .. but conscious actions. You will also say that conscious lie .. about the fact that, like the NKVD, they shot Poles in Katyn, this is a mistake.
          No. This is not a mistake, but a deliberate lie... on the part of both the leadership of the Russian Federation... and on the part of the leadership of Poland. But for the Poles... this lie... is at least beneficial... temporarily beneficial.
      2. +2
        14 November 2023 11: 54
        What a “breadth” of thought!
        I’m embarrassed to ask: “You’re not from Ward No. 6? Are you not Napoleon?”
      3. +1
        14 November 2023 13: 32
        It’s no different with Ukraine, we’ll probably strike with NATO and go on the offensive according to Gerasimov’s theory.
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    2. +6
      14 November 2023 06: 55
      “How does this affect the battle map?”
      no way. training is purely theoretical
    3. +6
      14 November 2023 09: 13
      ...the collective West has not yet transferred its economy and industry to a war footing. And the article was absolutely correct about the window of opportunity for our offensive (a year and a half). And then the situation can change greatly. Bandera's lack of shells, barrels, electronic warfare, air defense, aviation... can smoothly flow into excess. And then what?


      Dear Stas.
      Your comment is very accurate.

      If the “conditional West” fully launches all its military-industrial complex capabilities, then it will be very difficult for the Russian Army to resist enemies in Ukraine.
      In the West they know how to count money.
      The Western military-industrial complex is not expanding its production YET, because it wants to receive a guarantee for many years of demand for its future military products.

      According to Worden, Western arms manufacturers are willing to invest up front to expand production, but first want to be assured of demand.
      https://regnum.ru/news/3648802

      Governments of EU member states practically do not enter into long-term contracts with manufacturers, and the “wait-and-see” military industry does not want to take on financial risks. https://www.ng.ru/economics/2023-07-10/1_8769_armament.html


      And the most important thing.
      If Russia in the near future (six months to a year) does not prove with its convincing actions to Europe that the Russian Army intends to decisively defeat the Ukrainian army, then difficult times await our current State.

      The conflict in Ukraine has lasted almost a year and a half, and European defense contractors have been inundated with orders for everything from ammunition to shoulder-launched missiles and armored vehicles. In doing so, they are faced with a dilemma: whether to make a long-term bet on expanding production on the assumption that fighting and tensions with Russia will continue forever, or hold off until they receive long-term commitments from governments that have only spent the last few decades and they are cutting military budgets?...
      https://inosmi.ru/20230710/arsenal-264236378.html
    4. +1
      14 November 2023 18: 37
      the window of opportunity for our offensive is a year and a half
      I think the window of opportunity is even smaller: from 3 months to a year. Yes! Something will be missing, but the enemy will also be missing a lot. Anyone who has studied the history of the Battle of Stalingrad probably knows that new unpainted tanks (there was nothing to paint them with) with quickly trained crews, many of whom had no combat experience, went to attack the breakthrough. They would have simply delayed and the Germans would have added reserves and the encirclement would not have taken place. As a result, the Stalingrad cauldron.
    5. -1
      14 November 2023 19: 06
      The technological economy of the golden billion is working for the Kiev regime. The only thing that saves us from saturating the Armed Forces of Ukraine with weapons is that the collective West has not yet transferred its economy and industry to a war footing.

      There is practically nothing for the Golden Billion to transfer to a war footing (like Russia). But Lend-Lease may be opened from Japan, South Korea and all the Philippines. And this is serious. It is not possible according to the prescription of deserter Colonel N.A. Romanov. transform the war into a positional massacre.
  5. +40
    14 November 2023 05: 17
    The author is somewhat optimistic in tactical matters (which is normal for military propaganda), but the main advantage of the article is that he tries to address issues of a strategic nature, which has been done extremely rarely recently due to the obvious gloom of our prospects.
    Indeed, in Ukraine we have found ourselves in a strategic impasse, but its essence is somewhat deeper than what the author described. It is determined by the fact that
    1) The Russian Federation launched an operation against all of Ukraine, recognizing its government and the integrity of its borders (except for Crimea and Donbass). Which automatically placed it in the position of an aggressor under international law and allowed the creation of a huge coalition against it.
    2) The operation began not in war mode, but in a hitherto unprecedented SVO regime - an order that simply does not exist in law, which in turn created insurmountable contradictions within the country.
    3) The real goal of the operation was to reach an agreement with the West (through Ukraine) on very favorable terms. Negotiations began on the 4th day of the operation.
    After the failure of this entire structure, which was self-evident to everyone (except the Russian authorities), we found ourselves in a dead end, since all these points continue to determine the strategy of the Russian Federation.
    In practice, we cannot force the enemy to enter the “negotiation track” without major military victories, and it is impossible to achieve them within the framework of the Northern Military District regime with many internal self-restrictions.
    Ways out of this impasse
    a) Leave the SVO regime and start fighting.
    b) To one degree or another, give up and record the loss.
    c) Continue the low-intensity war in the NWO regime in the hope that the West’s costs will exceed its gains from the war or that the enemy will run out of human resources suitable for war. With the subsequent entry into a truce regime.
    Each of these strategies has its own sub-options. The Russian authorities have now chosen the third strategy. In my opinion, this is wrong and cannot lead to victory in any sense. But for now this is the reality.
    1. -17
      14 November 2023 05: 43
      There is a dead end ahead, but Lviv is behind, so there is still room for the army to move. About that, most of your sayings are false and are based on the “authoritative” thesis “and this is different,” well, you know that yourself.
    2. +20
      14 November 2023 05: 54
      Quote: Belisarius
      The Russian authorities have now chosen the third strategy. In my opinion this is wrong

      Hoping that the West will get tired of Ukraine is naive and stupid. You need to rely not on the desires (unwillingness) of the enemy, but on your own capabilities and prospects. What are they? I would describe it as unclear.
      1. +5
        14 November 2023 16: 36
        So there is nothing more to hope for, because there are no own opportunities, there are no good prospects either. The last hope left is that the West will get tired of all this and they will surrender Ukraine.
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    3. +8
      14 November 2023 07: 27
      Ways out of this impasse
      a) Leave the SVO regime and start fighting.

      Hmm, is it possible to be more specific here?
      What needs to be done that, in your opinion, is not being done yet and what should be the goals of the “start to fight” state?

      For example, one politician even proposes to give part of Ukraine to NATO: “Then what to accept into NATO, you ask. Well, you can accept the city of Lemberg with its surroundings (still the Lviv region), if they really insist there.” (c) Medvedev
      But here’s the question: in the event of a total military defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (let’s assume such a situation), how can we at least control the territory of Ukraine, even without the Lviv region? The Soviet army was engaged in similar tasks in Afghanistan, the Russian army has experience from the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars and the Syrian campaign.
      Ukraine is even 3 times larger in area than Syria and 30 times larger than Chechnya.

      Regarding points b) and c) everything is more or less clear, thank you.
      1. +2
        14 November 2023 16: 37
        Quote: Wildcat
        Hmm, is it possible to be more specific here?
        What needs to be done that, in your opinion, is not being done yet and what should be the goals of the “start to fight” state?

        Starting to fight is a combination of political and military measures. Briefly: Political
        1) Refusal to recognize Zelensky’s legitimacy. The reason is puppetry and genocide of one’s own people, etc. Accordingly, refusal to negotiate with them.
        2) From here it will be possible to formulate clear goals of the war - not the occupation of any territories referring to historical roots (this will not work), but the liberation of Ukraine from the political regime that is killing it, plus the opportunity for free self-determination of Donbass.
        Military: a) Attack without restrictions (except for nuclear weapons) on the enemy’s communications, his information centers, military and energy infrastructure.
        b) If possible, liquidate its current political and military leadership or capture it.
        c) Declaration of martial law in Russia, adoption of the law on the SVO, and in general the introduction of the SVO into the legal framework in the Russian Federation.
        d) Mobilization in Russia both in the rear (defense industry, railway transport, etc.) and for the front, with an emphasis on the use of all available forces - internal "siloviki", security guards, conscripts, etc.
        Another thing is that all this should have been done last spring. Now time wasted
        If this had been done on time, it would have been possible to reach a configuration - Crimea and Donbass for us according to the referendum, Ukraine with a friendly government, everything to the west of the Zhytomyr and Vinnitsa regions - to the West.
        Is it possible to do this now? I don’t know, but this is the only perspective in my opinion.
        Quote: Wildcat
        Regarding points b) and c) everything is more or less clear, thank you.

        In reality, it’s also not very clear. For example, point b-change. You can surrender in different ways, if we are talking about surrendering everything including Crimea, paying reparations, etc. -that's one thing. (catastrophe)
        If Crimea and Donbass are for us, the rest is for the West, plus we agree to have Ukraine in NATO, and pay them $350 billion in gold and foreign currency reserves, that’s completely different.
        My diagram is intentionally simplified for simplicity. There are many sub-options.
        1. +6
          14 November 2023 17: 37
          1) Refusal to recognize Zelensky’s legitimacy. The reason is puppetry and genocide of one’s own people, etc. Accordingly, refusal to negotiate with them.

          Well, now there are no negotiations (apparently they are communicating about prisoners/bodies).
          2) From here it will be possible to formulate clear goals of the war - not the occupation of any territories referring to historical roots (this will not work), but the liberation of Ukraine from the political regime that is killing it, plus the opportunity for free self-determination of Donbass.

          Back in September 2022, four regions of Ukraine, including Donbass, became self-determined.
          How can the political regime of the whole of Ukraine be changed?
          a) An attack without restrictions (except for nuclear weapons) on the enemy’s communications, his information centers, military and energy infrastructure.
          What are the current restrictions or what else can be attacked with “conventional weapons other than nuclear weapons”?
          b) If possible, liquidate its current political and military leadership or capture it.
          This is a very difficult question, IMHO.
          Zelensky, IMHO, is the most unsuccessful president for Ukraine: he came to power under the slogan “solve all problems in 1 year”; before the SVO called to “stop panic and get ready for summer barbecues”; it was he who did not begin the mobilization; I was not able to assemble the best possible set of weapons for the Ukrainian Armed Forces; “counterattack and coffee in Yalta” in his execution look pathetic, etc.
          But the main thing is that he could not, although he tried, “shake up” Belarus. nor Russia. Even Hitler was able to assemble ROA (brigades/divisions), and Zelensky was able to find a hundred or two people. So another question is whether replacing Zelensky is beneficial for us and whether an adequate/dangerous person will appear in his place.
          As for the other characters, the change from “sewn to soap” is not fundamental IMHO.
          c) Declaration of martial law in Russia, adoption of the law on the SVO, and in general the introduction of the SVO into the legal framework in the Russian Federation.
          Do you see any other powers for the government that it needs and that it doesn’t have? Or what in the laws needs to be changed?
          d) Mobilization in Russia both in the rear (defense industry, railway transport, etc.) and for the front, with an emphasis on the use of all available forces - internal "siloviki", security guards, conscripts, etc.
          How many do you consider necessary to call up and what to arm them with? Just in case, T55 and D1 are already in use. And most importantly, what should they do, march on Kyiv, Lviv, or what? What are the goals? Now the situation is not simple, for example, you read Military Review, find articles with the word “Avdiivka”, and then find it on the map.

          If this had been done on time, it would have been possible to reach a configuration - Crimea and Donbass for us according to the referendum, Ukraine with a friendly government, everything to the west of the Zhytomyr and Vinnitsa regions - to the West.
          Is it possible to do this now? I don’t know, but this is the only perspective in my opinion.

          How can you achieve what you consider the “single perspective” using points “1, 2” and “a, b, c, d”?
          1. +5
            14 November 2023 22: 19
            I will answer briefly (little time)
            Negotiations are not taking place now because the West (Ukraine) doesn’t want to, and not because we don’t want to. The attitude toward recognition by the Ukrainian government remains. And this makes the whole operation meaningless
            By self-determination, only the annexation of Crimea and Donbass can be justified; with Zaporozhye and Kherson there are no main justifications for 2014. I wrote about the correct option for March 2022. It is fundamentally important that in option 1 (war, not military district), we are talking about the fight against the regime, and not the war with Ukraine, or even more so its occupation. This is a simple principle that has always guided all sane countries (including even the United States).
            According to the restrictions, at the beginning of the SVO they were comprehensive, then they were gradually removed, but continue to remain very significant. There are a billion examples - for example, the Kremenchug oil refinery worked freely for 1,5 years, only a month ago they began to fly through it. We are talking about the application of elementary military principles - which have always guided everyone.
            According to Zelensky, his liquidation is not necessary, but desirable, the Ukrainian leadership is truly pure puppets, but replacing them without destroying the stability of Ukraine is not at all as easy as they think.
            According to the law - for now there are no laws. Hence all the problems from the epidemic of the 500s to the impossibility of using conscripts. We are talking about bringing the SVO into a legal form with the setting of clear goals and objectives and corresponding responsibility.
            Regarding weapons, etc. - You are right. But I also wrote that time was lost, so it was necessary to act in preparation for the operation, or at least at the beginning. Now there are really problems with weapons (Soviet reserves have basically dried up) and the number of trained officers.
            But in half a year, 500 thousand (I use the Russian Guard, conscripts, etc., that is, just fighting normally) can be collected. And yes, technically, an operation to capture Kyiv and install a new government there. Everything west of Zhitomir and Vinnitsa is given over to the west, there’s no need to go there (what happens there doesn’t matter)
            At the same time, no one is going to drag Ukraine (our part) into Russia and annex it.
            Now this is almost a utopia, but still this is the only chance for at least a relative victory. Everything else is a direct or slightly veiled defeat.
            P/S It didn’t work out briefly smile
            1. +4
              14 November 2023 23: 00
              Thanks for the answer, minus if anything - not mine.
              In general, I agree with the definition of “utopia”. In particular, we have different angles of view, this is not important. But the very idea of ​​“sending 500 thousand to Kyiv” for the second time, IMHO, even you don’t like.
              1. +1
                15 November 2023 22: 26
                Quote: Wildcat
                But the very idea of ​​“sending 500 thousand to Kyiv” for the second time, IMHO, even you don’t like

                I don't like it at all. But all good options ended before 2014 (the best is to win without fighting, as Sun Tzu bequeathed), all normal options ended until May 2014 (on May 25 the Poroshenko government was recognized as a fatal mistake), all tolerable until April 2022 (the failure of the first phases of the operation).
                Now, thanks to the efforts of amazing people, we have in our power the choice only between very bad and catastrophic. Moreover, the difficulty is that all options are very risky and it is impossible to say in advance which will be more dangerous and could lead to worse consequences.
    4. +6
      14 November 2023 08: 00
      Totally agree with you.
      Quote: Belisarius
      c) Continue the low-intensity war in the NWO regime in the hope that the West’s costs will exceed its gains from the war or that the enemy will run out of human resources suitable for war. With the subsequent entry into a truce regime.
      Each of these strategies has its own sub-options. The Russian authorities have now chosen the third strategy. In my opinion, this is wrong and cannot lead to victory in any sense. But for now this is the reality.

      It is interesting to look at historical examples of where this can lead us and who is counting on what.
      In the “no war, no peace” option, like the Korean one (and this seems to be what we are being led to), the Russian Federation “pupates” like North Korea, fortunately, we have much more opportunities for autarky, and the political situation in the country does not contradict this option. A new double-sided “iron curtain” is coming down, not a copy of the previous one, but overall very similar. In general, there are no problems for the survival of the country, but we will be excluded from the general progress in science and technology, we will firmly remain a “raw materials” country of the “third world” and will stand on a par with the North. Korea, Iran, Venezuela and Cuba. For Ukraine, the scenario of South Korea and Germany is possible, as an option.
      If sluggish hostilities continue, the warring parties will count on the destruction of the enemy from within under the influence of sanctions or due to the destruction of critical infrastructure and general “fatigue” from war. As an example, we can cite the final period of WWI and the fate of the monarchies that took part in it. Moreover, in this case, there are essentially no risks for Ukraine, because the latter is not a subject in the current situation.
      1. +7
        14 November 2023 16: 46
        Quote: Adrey
        Moreover, in this case, there are essentially no risks for Ukraine, because the latter is not a subject in the current situation.

        In general I agree with you. I note that many do not understand that Russia’s loss does not mean Ukraine’s victory (which is what they hope for in Ukraine). Without being a subject of confrontation, Ukraine really loses in any case (in essence, its population is being exterminated). In a war there can be more than one loser and winner (WWII is an example).
        So far, everything is going that this conflict will end in a mutual loss for both the Russian Federation and Ukraine.
    5. +3
      14 November 2023 09: 50
      c) Continue the low-intensity war in the NWO regime in the hope that the West’s costs will exceed its gains from the war or that the enemy will run out of human resources suitable for war. With the subsequent entry into a truce regime.


      "Option c" is the worst.
      If the West sees that Russia is ready to support sluggish military operations in Ukraine for a relatively long time, then Europe will immediately give guarantees to its military-industrial complex for stable purchases of weapons for many years.
      And if the European military-industrial complex invests in expanding weapons production, it will be difficult to stop it.
      Then the real war will begin, since the European bourgeoisie will have to “recoup their invested money.”
      Only one will survive: either the West or present-day Russia.
      Regarding the survival of today's Russia, I got excited.
      1. +4
        14 November 2023 16: 52
        Quote: AA17
        "Option c" is the worst.

        Looking for someone. For the authorities of the Russian Federation the best (otherwise they would not have agreed to it). And perhaps it will really be possible to freeze the conflict by next fall.
        From the point of view of Russia’s state interests, there is no benefit in this, but for the authorities it is an opportunity to get out of this situation without collapsing stability within and maintaining hope for the return of part of the capital in the West.
      2. 0
        14 November 2023 21: 26
        then the real war will begin
        There won’t be enough Ukrainians, and the Europeans won’t go to war.
    6. -4
      14 November 2023 12: 16
      a) Leave the SVO regime and start fighting.
      b) To one degree or another, give up and record the loss.
      c) Continue the low-intensity war in the NWO regime in the hope that the West’s costs will exceed its gains from the war or that the enemy will run out of human resources suitable for war. With the subsequent entry into a truce regime.
      If we translate it into folk proverbs, then the point:
      a) “It’s better to be Gromoperdov than Tikhobzduev!”
      b) and c) a proverb about smokers: “He who quits smoking is delaying his end (point c)), and whoever doesn’t quit will end up with cancer (point b))!”
      I am for point a)!!! It just needs to start with the destruction of the “fifth column”!
    7. 0
      14 November 2023 13: 16
      Quote: Belisarius
      The Russian Federation launched an operation against all of Ukraine, recognizing its government and the integrity of its borders (except for Crimea and Donbass). Which automatically put her in the position of the aggressor
      Back in 2014 they wrote on VO
      Over the 6 years, the United States bombarded 7 countries without a declaration of war.
      Where is the “machine gun” that can put her in the position of an aggressor? If it is directed only in our direction, it is an enemy machine gun.
      1. +2
        14 November 2023 14: 30
        Where is the “machine gun” that can put her in the position of an aggressor?


        The critical “flag of identifying an aggressor” is not just coming with weapons into foreign territory, but the annexation of conquered territories.
        99% of countries in the world do not recognize our new territories and are unlikely to ever recognize them in the future.
      2. +9
        14 November 2023 16: 58
        Quote: Stanislav_Shishkin
        Where is the “machine gun” that can put her in the position of an aggressor? If it is directed only in our direction, it is an enemy machine gun.

        The United States is indeed also an aggressor, but there are two fundamental differences.
        1) The USA (as well as Israel, essentially one state) is the hegemon of the modern capital world. They can rely on the power of force. The Russian Federation is in a completely different situation.
        2) The USA first declares the government illegitimate, dictatorial, etc., and then bombs it. Thus they declare that they always fight for freedom. And they do not include parts of Libya, Syria, Iraq, etc. into the United States.
    8. +2
      14 November 2023 17: 26
      Ways out of this impasse
      a) Leave the SVO regime and start fighting.
      b) To one degree or another, give up and record the loss.
      c) Continue the sluggish war in the SVO regime...

      Finally, on VO I read a normal analysis of the situation. Just thank you, it's a balm...
    9. 0
      14 November 2023 18: 43
      The Russian authorities have now chosen the third strategy. In my opinion, this is wrong and cannot lead to victory in any sense. But for now this is the reality.
      Perhaps the authorities chose this. We'll see. If this is so, then this threatens Russia with great disasters. The West is many times stronger in economy and production capacity. In a long-term economic confrontation, taking into account sanctions, if he does not defeat Russia, he will make it a poor country.
      1. 0
        15 November 2023 16: 54
        And we will not resist them, we will sit behind the fence and stew in our own juice. In any case, this is the only way with this government and system. But rather, the rest of the oligarchy and bureaucracy will not agree with the fighters who chose the curtain. They are accustomed to a different life and are making money on contacts with the West, selling off what the winners of Hodor and birch did not grab.
    10. +5
      15 November 2023 00: 20
      Quote: Belisarius
      The Russian Federation launched an operation against all of Ukraine, recognizing its government and the integrity of its borders (except for Crimea and Donbass). Which automatically placed it in the position of an aggressor under international law and allowed the creation of a huge coalition against it.


      Russia (more precisely, its government, which considers itself smarter than everyone else), decided to “fix what is not broken,” that is, to make unnecessary improvements to the proven Western mechanism of attacking other countries. The West, neither in Iraq (both times), nor in Yugoslavia, nor in Afghanistan, nor in Libya, did not hide the fact that it was going to attack; on the contrary, it directly voiced it and threatened to attack if its demands were not met. These demands were also voiced directly. Russia did exactly the opposite - until the very end it denied (and in Zakharova’s boorish manner) any possibility of an attack, and voiced demands only after it had begun.

      Quote: Belisarius
      The operation began not in war mode, but in a hitherto unprecedented SVO regime - an order that simply does not exist in law, which in turn created insurmountable contradictions within the country.


      Here we are in the general trend. After the end of WWII, decent powers did not declare war on anyone; this was the lot of a few wild and semi-wild countries. The rest organized precisely the operations - Operation Iraqi Freedom, Operation Serval, etc. But here again we distinguished ourselves: what others adequately perceived as a legal trick, we began to promote in all seriousness. That is, formally there was an operation in Iraq, but it never occurred to anyone in America to be imprisoned for the words “Iraq War.” The Wikipedia article is called exactly that, but the United States has not declared Wikipedia an extremist resource. In our country, the “peacetime regime” has reached its logical limit: a criminal case was opened against the Ukrainian general who planned the destruction of military aircraft of the Aerospace Forces for the destruction of state property.

      Quote: Belisarius
      3) The real goal of the operation was to reach an agreement with the West (through Ukraine) on very favorable terms. Negotiations began on the 4th day of the operation.


      The agreement with the West was either not envisaged at all from the beginning, or was planned by people who poorly understand the meaning of the word “agreement.” The ultimatum to return NATO to the 1997 borders was deliberately presented so offensively that even if (suddenly by some miracle) Brussels was ready to accept it on its merits, its very form excluded any discussion (yes, the Russian side plainly said that there would be no discussion will not be).

      a) Leave the SVO regime and start fighting.


      In military terms, everything was already involved except nuclear weapons. The use of even tactical nuclear weapons, even in the most limited form, carries foreign policy consequences that the whole of Ukraine is not worth. The indiscriminate destruction, directly or indirectly, of many thousands of Ukrainian citizens will give the front very little, but a lot of determination from both Ukrainians and their sponsors. The destruction of the notorious bridges will give at least something (sometimes I wonder if they are saving up missiles for this), but it does not require a declaration of war. Driving all the men into the trenches, and all the women and teenagers to the machines, is with a huge probability of getting 1941 instead of 1917.

      c) Continue the low-intensity war in the NWO regime in the hope that the West’s costs will exceed its gains from the war or that the enemy will run out of human resources suitable for war. With the subsequent entry into a truce regime.


      This is the most logical option. Grandpa Joe clearly does not want Ukraine to win. Its supply management speaks for itself. We don’t have to understand why he does this (there are a million options, each more plausible than the other), it’s enough to know it and use it. While Biden keeps the Armed Forces of Ukraine on a starvation diet, we will fatten up the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with a big ladle (but so big as not to ruin the economy). And this is how we will win.
      1. 0
        15 November 2023 22: 34
        Quote: Yaroslav Tekkel
        And this is how we will win.

        You are an optimist. Great. And maybe the adopted strategy of stalling for time in the hope that the enemy will get tired and go to peace negotiations has a certain meaning besides the interests of the Russian authorities.
        In the end, as Comrade taught. Sukhov is better to suffer than to be killed immediately (surrender).
        But the fact that this option will lead to victory.... Alas, no. Victory is the achievement of a world better than the pre-war one, even only from your point of view. What can we get the most with such a strategy? The enemy will agree to a long truce (possibly forever, as soon as martial law is lifted in Ukraine, most of the men will run away from there), and we will get a corridor to Crimea and most of the destroyed Donbass de facto, in the absence of its recognition by everyone de jure and under sanctions . And with the rest of Ukraine joining NATO. There is no way this is a victory.
        1. -3
          15 November 2023 22: 55
          Quote: Belisarius
          we will receive a corridor to Crimea and most of the destroyed Donbass de facto, in the absence of its recognition by everyone de jure and under sanctions. And with the rest of Ukraine joining NATO

          It's clear. Well, we definitely won’t send you to negotiations. Vylezary Yes
        2. 0
          16 November 2023 22: 04
          Quote: Belisarius
          Victory is the achievement of a world better than the pre-war one, even only from your point of view.

          None of those involved will and cannot get such a victory - neither Russia, nor Ukraine, nor Europe. I think even the USA - they have all the makings, but the American establishment stubbornly snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. This is a lose-lose situation, like the First World War. Even the formal winners actually lost terribly.
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    11. 0
      15 November 2023 05: 46
      Dear Belisarius!
      A very accurate comment, but there are only two ways out:
      1) Defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, destroy the ruling elite of Ukraine and, having annexed its territory, carry out measures to eliminate the remnants of Nazism and separatism. The costs depend on the impression we make by smashing the Armed Forces of Ukraine. With maximum damage to the enemy and our minimum, the costs are insignificant.
      2) Surrender to the mercy of the winners (including the proposed exit -c). This will mean the liquidation of Russia as a state with the accompanying division and genocide of the population. At the maximum, a kind of sub-state of Muscovy will be created within the Golden Ring without industry and defensive capabilities, representing a kind of tourist cluster. Those who survive will be asked to dance with a ring in their nose to the balalaika of a drunken bear.
      1. -1
        15 November 2023 22: 40
        Quote: Victor Leningradets
        A very accurate comment, but there are only two ways out:

        This is a very harsh way of looking at things. Probably true in essence, but too harsh in detail. For example, a low-intensity conflict and then a truce does not mean that the Russian Federation will immediately collapse and we will become Muscovy. We can say that we will take this path, which may lead us to this in 25 years, but not immediately.
        And regarding annexation, in your version it turns out that you need to take the entire territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. I cannot agree with this, I don’t think that we need Western Ukraine and I don’t think that we will be able to control it.
        1. -2
          15 November 2023 22: 58
          Quote: Belisarius
          I don’t think we need Western Ukraine and I don’t think we can control it

          To your (not bad, I note, suspended) tongue - you could use a little more brains and a critical attitude towards yourself, your beloved.

          Your main mistake is that you isolate yourself in Ukraine (at the same time - “you don’t need Ukraine”), and do not see anything that is happening simultaneously with it, but outside it. This is... stupid. Vylezary Yes
  6. +12
    14 November 2023 05: 21
    there are no significant defense breakthroughs on both sides.

    Should they be? We read about the Germans' assault on Sevastopol.
    Sevastopol was subjected to massive air strikes: on average, Luftwaffe aircraft carried out 600 sorties per day. About 2,5 thousand tons of high-explosive bombs were dropped, including large calibers - up to 1000 kg

    And yesterday we dropped 30 bombs on Avdeevka... And with such an impact on the enemy, we expect breakthroughs?
    There are a lot of letters, but I’ll quote military commander Kharchenko
    How can we storm the landings?

    We faced a similar situation in Syria. We divided all the troops there into two subgroups. The first fought beautifully, and the second effectively. We got the most colorful shots when working with the Republican Guard in Damascus. They had experienced attack aircraft and first-class tankers. They set up incredible carousels in the narrow streets of Damascus and our reports were watched by millions of viewers. But they could storm one building for a month. At the same time, the Tigers’ fighters did not look so brave, and they often went into battle without rifle butts. They resembled the Zaporozhye army more than the regular army, but under the leadership of experienced commanders, these guys destroyed the militants in the suburbs of the city in 1.5 months (before that, the fighting had gone on there for 6 years).

    Do you think that they cut corners when storming high-rise buildings and tactically entered militant tunnels? No. This was a little different. The Tigers command was able to build an excellent fire system. And they controlled the fire so competently that the militants simply abandoned their positions and ran deeper into the neighborhoods.

    The same rules apply on the Donbass fronts. It will not be possible to achieve victory through a tactical assault on a forest plantation. We will not be able to train enough attack aircraft to take all the forest plantations to the border with Poland. We will win only when we answer the question of how to build a system so that the fighters do not storm the landing, but simply enter the landing. War is not an airsoft tournament where a professional single player can defeat an entire team. War is, first of all, the construction of an effective system of interaction. Order always beats class. Only this way and no other way.

    Alexander Kharchenko
    1. -12
      14 November 2023 05: 47
      There are a lot of letters, but I’ll quote military commander Kharchenko

      Maybe someone can explain to me why the landing exists. Can't it be treated with more powerful pesticides than orange? Our chemical enterprises cannot create such drugs?
      1. +4
        14 November 2023 07: 05
        “Maybe someone can explain to me why the landing exists.”
        do you know what landing is? this is a narrow (5-6 meters) line of trees (3-4 rows), along roads and in fields. what military significance does it have? and how is it different from just a trench in an open field?
      2. 0
        14 November 2023 18: 48
        Where I live there are no leaves anymore. Perhaps they still exist in Donbass. But in a couple of weeks they will definitely not be there. So what kind of plantings and forest belts? Ours also covered themselves with leaves or not?
  7. -2
    14 November 2023 05: 23
    Heroyam-sala.
    To the heroes - glory and memory.
    There is no desire, other than the determination of some of the elites, to win against ours. They don’t know what or how to do with the nationalistic-minded Ukrainians. Kherson and the Trans-Prime region showed for the authorities and the FSB the costs and difficulties of “reforging” consciousness. Maybe there is not enough money?
    Will the experience of the 20th century, the formation of the USSR from scratch, help? Can you learn from your own (or is it someone else's?) past mistakes?
  8. -7
    14 November 2023 05: 27
    . The Pentagon simulated an offensive by the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2023 at least four times on supercomputers...

    The programs will be tweaked and planning will be more accurate. The war of the future is a war of supercomputers and artificial intelligence.

    Our president believes that artificial intelligence is the basis for a new breakthrough in development.

    . In Russia, it is necessary to massively introduce artificial intelligence into various spheres of life, President Vladimir Putin said at the Sberbank conference.

    According to him, this task is set for the next ten years.
    1. 0
      14 November 2023 05: 51
      Unfortunately these are just words. Intelligence from drones, of which we have so many that the Ukrainians no longer try to shoot them down, is processed manually. The operator simply looks at the monitor. And then we are surprised how the enemy freely transfers significant military contingents to the front line.
      PS, I didn’t put the minus)
    2. 0
      14 November 2023 13: 25
      Quote: Stas157
      Our president believes that artificial intelligence is the basis for a new breakthrough
      Did you read somewhere between the lines about the “basis of the breakthrough”, or do you doubt that the scope of AI should be expanded?
  9. -22
    14 November 2023 05: 29
    This is not a dead end yet, Ukraine still has somewhere to retreat, but when only Lvov remains, and Poland is like that - and for us... Then it will be possible to say that it is a dead end.
    In general, the meaning of the article is clear, “everything is lost” - someday in a year, in two, in 10 years, how the Western complex will work, how it will work, having lost all its potential, and then the mobilized 90-year-old and 7-year-old dryers will show everyone!
    1. +26
      14 November 2023 05: 50
      This is not a dead end yet, Ukraine still has somewhere to retreat, that’s when only Lvov will remain

      Dimm588, don't be a clown

      On the 600th day of the war, bold expectations of reaching Lvov and the Polish border are simply indecent.

      It has long become clear to everyone that in the worst case scenario for the dill, they will lose part of the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions on the left bank of the Dnieper. And that's where it all ends
      1. -16
        14 November 2023 06: 22
        Your plan implies that at every next kilometer there is the same army in force, and at the next kilometer there is the same and the same, waiting for their turn, and not trying to plug the holes in Avdeevka with pitiful remnants. Then yes, it is indecent. There is no need to talk about the fact that they lost everything in 3 months, twice as much as the Americans lost in 10 years in Vietnam, otherwise tell me again, I’m explaining and I don’t share your “everything is lost.”
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        2. +12
          14 November 2023 07: 04
          Your plan implies that at every next kilometer there is the same army

          The Ukrainian Armed Forces and the Russian Army are being spent at approximately the same pace. The forces are equal, the weapons are the same, the conditions are the same

          When the Dill army is used up, the Russian army will also be used up. And there will be nowhere to get a new one. And everyone understands this and no one remembers for a long time about the denazification of the entire outskirts
          1. -5
            14 November 2023 07: 48
            Quote: Santa Fe
            about the same

            Somewhere in Ukraine - Mykola, your Su-17 is approximately the same as a pack of Su-34s, let's get into the cockpit! Don't drift, the air defenses will cover you with cannons.
            1. +2
              14 November 2023 13: 51
              Su 17M3 is more effective at the moment. Less fuel, and at a low altitude it will fly further into the enemy’s depths.
              1. -4
                14 November 2023 20: 53
                And the muskets of the 17th century are very effective, with them you can return one-legged muskets to duty, somehow hobbling with support!
            2. 0
              14 November 2023 13: 51
              Su 17M3 is more effective at the moment. Less fuel, and at low altitude it flies further into the enemy’s depths.
  10. +4
    14 November 2023 05: 34
    “Surovikin Line” will obviously go down in the history of military art

    Won't go in

    Dill were unable to pass through minefields and suppress Russian defenses because the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have normal aviation and modern weapons in significant quantities.


    A hundred NATO howitzers, 30 leopard tanks and 14 Challengers, but that was all just talk. The war is going on with the poorest army in Europe

    As the latest retreat from the Dnieper (regrouping) shows, the Russian defense is on its last legs. And if dill had a couple of hundred modern Western tanks and f-16s, next summer they would be able to reach the Crimea
    1. -2
      14 November 2023 06: 31
      Quote: Santa Fe
      A hundred NATO howitzers, 30 leopard tanks and 14 Challengers, but that was all just talk. The war is going on with the poorest army in Europe

      You don’t have the data, Ukraine received 200 Leopards. There are more than 500 Soviet-designed tanks. 200 towed howitzers were delivered. and half a thousand self-propelled ones. Several thousand armored personnel carriers.
      1. +11
        14 November 2023 06: 52
        Everything you listed are scraps of the armies of leading countries
        and half a thousand self-propelled ones.

        ??

        Ukraine received 200 leopards.

        Including Leopard-1?

        Do you know how many leopards are in service, for example, in some Turkey?
        Several thousand armored personnel carriers.

        1000 armored Mrap trucks. And a couple of hundred M113s from the Vietnam War.

        The poorest army in Europe, poorly armed, without aviation, long-range missiles or modern armored vehicles.

        It’s strange that even this was enough to hold positions and try to advance
    2. +1
      14 November 2023 13: 43
      Quote: Santa Fe
      Dill were unable to pass through minefields and suppress Russian defenses because the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have normal aviation and modern weapons in significant quantities.
      How interesting, a little higher, but later (07.04/XNUMX) you write
      Quote: Santa Fe
      The forces are equal, the weapons are the same, the conditions are the same
      After an hour and a half, did you change your mind?
      1. +4
        14 November 2023 20: 36
        After an hour and a half, did you change your mind?

        How does one contradict the other?

        There is an obvious positional deadlock at the front for more than a year now. Battles are fought over garden plots and waste heaps. Attempts at “strategic” offensives on both sides did not really lead to anything, it came to digging under enemy trenches, tactics of the First World War

        This means only one thing. Capabilities of one army = enemy army.

        Fighting on equal terms with Ukrainian ragamuffins armed with scraps of Western equipment is the real level and capabilities of the modern Russian army. You can deny this as much as you like, but war is like an exam. In a real war, unlike parades and popular “hybrid wars”, lying doesn’t last long

        Poplar and Yars missiles don't count here. They are like a ceremonial sword, not for solving everyday problems
  11. +6
    14 November 2023 05: 55
    Oh, these theorists... If the author does not bear personal responsibility, then all this is chatter. We already have Podolyak in Kyiv and Nikolaev, “surrounded”, a year ago.
  12. +12
    14 November 2023 06: 01
    I have little interest in how things are going with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. How are we doing? The war is taking place on our territory. Destroying our settlements. All the “offensives” that VO writes about every week are quickly fading away. Does it turn out that we also have a dead end? Nothing to offer in strategy and tactics.
    And the enemy is being armed. Planes and new missiles will arrive soon. What will our army do? hi
    1. +1
      14 November 2023 07: 27
      And the enemy is being armed. Planes and new missiles will arrive soon. What will our army do?

      Apparently, highly paid professionals will continue to sit in the rear, and assaults will require a new mobilization. But a new mobilization is possible only after an event that I am embarrassed to even call elections.
  13. +3
    14 November 2023 06: 07
    However, the art of war is an art because improvisations can significantly correct the landscape of creation. And in the Russian Army there are enough such creators - whatever one may say, our country learns to fight much faster than the enemy.
    . To begin with, someone was specifically shown that a “small professional army”, consider “colonial troops”, in most cases, and certainly in ours, is UTTERNAL STUPIDITY!!! and this is putting it mildly, because for such an understanding we had to pay with the blood of our people!!!
    And a dead end for the enemy, the prospects of his defeat... the prospects of our victory... in general, there is no point in running ahead of the locomotive!
  14. +13
    14 November 2023 06: 07
    The author has forgotten such a variable as the Kremlin, they haven’t started there yet, and we don’t have a war, and Urgant is a great patriot. And then dear partners can join in, and new gestures of goodwill will appear. And then a week later roar on the first channel that we were deceived again... And the men at the front beat the enemies as always, not thanks to but in spite of, not thanks to cool policies or brilliantly designed operations, or advanced equipment and ammunition, but through personal courage and heroism .
  15. +13
    14 November 2023 06: 28
    The most important thing for us is a dead end in Russia. Therefore, there is a dead end in the Northern Military District as well
    1. +2
      14 November 2023 06: 56
      If the singer Alla Borisovna had the audacity to return to the country and people and the authorities swallowed it, then it’s typical in our heads.(
      1. +7
        14 November 2023 09: 21
        If the singer Alla Borisovna had the audacity to return to the country and people and the authorities swallowed it, then it’s typical in our heads.(

        If people swallowed the story with Zhuravel, it means that everything is complicated in their heads.
      2. +3
        14 November 2023 10: 54
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        If the singer Alla Borisovna has the nerve to return to the country

        Hmm.

        How did we get to such a point that the presence in the country of A.B. Has Pugacheva become a political problem? This did not happen under Soviet rule, I guarantee it.
        1. -3
          14 November 2023 15: 41
          Quote: Negro
          How did we get to such a point that the presence in the country of A.B. Has Pugacheva become a political problem?
          How you got to this “point”, you know better. There is no political problem. She definitely didn’t have any more fans.
    2. -1
      14 November 2023 09: 47
      The most important thing for us is the impasse in Russia
      And how long have you been at a dead end? It’s somehow impossible to stand in two dead ends.
  16. +2
    14 November 2023 06: 36
    A rather one-sided analysis based on a linear extrapolation of the events that led to the current “deadlock”. The author believes that the outcome of the showdown between toads and spiders in Kyiv depends on them, I personally am sure it will be as they say in Washington. Their resources are not unlimited, and it is beneficial to transfer the economy to a war footing when there is a prospect of seizing Russia’s resources. To compensate for costs, but this is a utopia, and they understand it. But the Kremlin’s plans are known only to the Kremlin; guessing about this is a thankless and hopeless task. Wait and see. The top will not bend (and again, personally, I don’t believe in this, the time for this has been lost) by the rain of Bandera’s followers,
  17. +2
    14 November 2023 06: 40
    How NATO generals even came up with the idea of ​​sending the Ukrainians on an attack with virtually no aviation or air defense support is beyond me.

    NATO generals, like any other generals, can make mistakes, but not so much that they do not know about the need for air support.
    If (the stars light up) the infantry goes on the attack without air support, it means that someone needs it.
  18. +19
    14 November 2023 06: 59
    This author is best read in the "complete works".

    Look for differences and small changes of views, so to speak.

    2023, this article:
    The end of 2023 will obviously end with Russian superiority in defense. The world-famous “Surovikin Line” seems to have become the most impassable line of defense in recent history.
    The obvious deadlock at the front does not mean a total and irrevocable transition of the special operation into a sluggish mode. Russia is obviously accumulating reserves, and it has been much easier to do this over the past year - active defense takes much less strength than attacks. The Ukrainian Armed Forces were exhausted by the end of the year, but we were not. But sufficient reserves have not yet been formed, and the military-industrial complex has not had time to sufficiently saturate the units with military equipment.
    ...there are enough such creators in the Russian Army - whatever one may say, our country learns to fight much faster than the enemy.


    2022 year:
    Here lies the fundamental omission of Western policy. What will Biden and European vassals do after Russia's victory? This will be followed by the inevitable de-escalation so desired by Europeans. An obvious reason for lifting sanctions. There is no other way - the restrictions are so severe that the world economy will not be able to grow without radical restructuring. And any restructuring, such as the repurposing of the European gas industry for American LNG, will take time and will cause unrest among the masses.
    The tandem of the two strongest nuclear powers, Russia and China, one of which has practically inexhaustible natural resources, will become a serious threat not only to the United States, but also to the entire “golden billion.” Therefore, sanctions after the special operation must be lifted. At least the toughest part of them. But this will hit the image of the collective West and sharply raise the quotations of Russia, which will emerge from history as a global winner.
    Even elementary logic dictates that it will not be possible to create a second Afghanistan for the Russian army in Ukraine. ... However, this is the most pessimistic forecast for Europeans - the Ukrainian army, even interspersed with mercenaries, will cease to exist/resist in the coming weeks, and the issue of a second Afghanistan will be closed.
    https://topwar.ru/193080-vtoroj-afganistan-zapad-pytaetsja-vtjanut-rossiju-v-zatjazhnuju-vojnu.html

    What incredible progress of the author’s military thought! From “the Ukrainian army, even if interspersed with mercenaries, will cease to exist in the coming weeks” to “The end of 2023 will obviously end under the sign of Russian superiority in defense.”

    The progress of economic and political thought is also magnificent, I think.

    PS. I could barely resist feel so that you don’t start arranging emoticons according to quotes... crying
  19. -13
    14 November 2023 07: 00
    A deadlock situation at the front for the enemies. Not for us. Why does Evgeny Fedorov, as an enemy mouthpiece, repeat the words of Nazi propaganda on VO? Have you completely lost your brain there, repeating your piggy uncle?
    Don't see the big picture at all? Well, it’s better to reprint other people’s articles than this.
  20. +8
    14 November 2023 07: 09
    The author does not notice that the enemy is gradually increasing the depth of his attacks. The latest attack on Berdyansk not only brought some aviation losses, but also forced the relocation of all remaining helicopters to Crimea away from the LBS. Tomorrow the United States will deliver even longer-range versions of ATAKMS, and what, will all aircraft have to be removed from Crimea? It’s basically the same with the fleet.
    And that’s half the trouble. So far, the West has fundamentally prohibited the use of its long-range systems for attacks against the “old” regions of Russia, which makes it possible to keep most of the aviation and navy in relative safety. And army warehouses and transport routes have not yet been seriously attacked. If tomorrow the West gives the go-ahead, then it will be necessary to withdraw aviation from the Rostov and Voronezh regions.
  21. 0
    14 November 2023 07: 33
    At least Kyiv was able to return the territories of the Kyiv and Kharkov regions, Kherson, Izyum. And they didn’t even move a kilometer away from the Donetsk region.

    And all this fuss about the counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was made to recognize the most fortified and vulnerable places and to divert enemy forces to other sectors of the front.

    So, for now, the Armed Forces of Ukraine manage to maneuver against the enormous force of the RF Armed Forces.
    For Zaluzhny, the obvious goal is to cut off the land route to Crimea.
    Next, surround Energodar, Tokmak, Melitopol. To do this, they use 40% of their total accumulated strength. And when they manage to accomplish this, they will launch a full-scale offensive in the south of Ukraine.


    Here you can use all available fighters and bombers against them.
    Only superiority in the sky can stop the dry land.
    1. 0
      14 November 2023 17: 05
      What nonsense? If the Russian Federation had enormous forces there, then the picture would be completely different.
  22. 0
    14 November 2023 07: 34
    While all types of Western intelligence are working for the Armed Forces, and the Russian army will not be able to fend off this factor, you can forget about operations with large formations
  23. -1
    14 November 2023 07: 48
    strategic stalemate
    “We haven’t really started fighting yet” (c)
  24. 0
    14 November 2023 07: 59
    Before the elections, Putin will throw all his forces and means on the offensive; he definitely needs to present something to the people as a victory.
    1. +14
      14 November 2023 08: 25
      Quote: tatra
      Before the elections, Putin will throw all his forces and means on the offensive; he definitely needs to present something to the people as a victory.

      Not at all necessary. At the right time, the current situation at that time will be presented as a huge achievement with minimal forces and losses (relative to opponents).
      1. +6
        14 November 2023 10: 29
        That's it. Well, what about serving up defeats with sweet gherkin sauce with the Kremlin press service has come across very well.
    2. BAI
      0
      14 November 2023 09: 15
      he definitely needs to present something to the people as a victory.

      He doesn't need to show anything. The main thing for him now is not to suffer major losses.
      1. 0
        14 November 2023 19: 00
        Quote: BAI
        he definitely needs to present something to the people as a victory.

        He doesn't need to show anything. The main thing for him now is not to suffer major losses.
        Hmm ... winked
  25. +4
    14 November 2023 08: 25
    The art of war is art because improvisations can significantly correct the landscape of creation. And in the Russian Army there are enough such creators - whatever one may say, our country learns to fight much faster than the enemy.

    Oh, we attacked the author, rearranging words in the same “chewing gum” that people have been feeding for 20 months. Does a person need to earn money somehow?!
  26. +2
    14 November 2023 08: 27
    Quote: tatra
    will throw all his strength and resources into the offensive, he definitely needs to present something to the people

    Why throw something away, they’ll just make the right picture on TV... And electronic elections will show the right result....
    1. -8
      14 November 2023 08: 43
      Quote: Vladimir80
      Quote: tatra
      will throw all his strength and resources into the offensive, he definitely needs to present something to the people

      Why throw something away, they’ll just make the right picture on TV... And electronic elections will show the right result....

      Vova, don't fall. Your style of whining is unique, and it is impossible to confuse it with anything else:


      So tell me already - how did it happen that you have two live accounts on the site? wink laughing
      1. +4
        14 November 2023 09: 55
        So tell me already - how it happened that you have two live accounts on the site

        Chat bots know better how this can be done; they are paid for this.
        1. -8
          14 November 2023 10: 10
          Quote: Vladimir80
          So tell me already - how it happened that you have two live accounts on the site

          Chat bots know better how this can be done; they are paid for this.

          I'm happy for you and your salary. But what about this? Eh, Vova?


          You can’t have two active accounts for one person at all. But Vova still has them. How can this be - that is the question wink laughing
          1. +6
            14 November 2023 10: 46
            So tell me already - how it happened that you have two live accounts on the site

            Those close to the administration know better wink
            1. -6
              14 November 2023 11: 03
              Quote: Vladimir80
              So tell me already - how it happened that you have two live accounts on the site

              Those close to the administration know better wink

              Don't move the arrows.

              I have two permanently banned accounts, and only one is alive. You have at least two alive, although this is directly prohibited by the rules.

              Well, how did you manage it, Vova? Did you change the SIM card in your phone? If only you could change your whining style, everything would be fine. But you whine too monotonously, from both accounts request laughing
              1. 0
                14 November 2023 12: 58
                Quote: Repellent
                Quote: Vladimir80
                tell me already how it happened that you have two live accounts on the site
                Those close to the administration know better
                Don't move the arrows.
                You are wrong dear hi , a traitor does not cast lots - you still think it’s another one pop gapon he is growing up, he has experience...
              2. 0
                14 November 2023 22: 05
                What a beauty, then this veteran of keyboard wars spits in the face of real SVO participants. Are you still chasing ratings in your populism? Is it clear why you get so nervous when people disagree with you, does it hurt your pride? Rear special forces in the talking shop, what do I care about such things.
          2. +1
            14 November 2023 14: 02
            Quote: Repellent
            You can’t have two active accounts for one person at all.
            To do this, it is necessary to at least allow users to delete their accounts and prohibit the site from leaving “dead souls” - active accounts whose users have been permanently banned. But two active accounts are definitely too much.
  27. BAI
    +3
    14 November 2023 09: 12
    1.
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces managed to advance only seventeen kilometers in five months
    Not on the entire front. And where? (You don’t have to answer in rhyme, there is no Ukrainian Armed Forces there).
    2.
    When analysts say that time is now on Russia’s side, it is worth remembering the slow but sure strengthening of the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defensive lines.

    Time is working for the West and Ukraine. The economic power of the West will ensure the colossal technical superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. If necessary, they will give you an F-35. And besides nuclear weapons, Russia will have no other choice.
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      1. +8
        14 November 2023 15: 08
        The West, with the help of Sakhipzadovna and Siluanov, is trying to destroy Russia


        And their immediate superior, who appointed them to positions and keeps them there for decades, is blind, narrow-minded and naive?
    2. -2
      14 November 2023 15: 53
      Quote: BAI
      The economic power of the West will ensure the colossal technical superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      Yeah, in a few years, that is. posthumously. Not only everyone will live to see the colossal. but few people can do it.
  28. +3
    14 November 2023 09: 38
    By the way, nothing is written about the construction of layered defense in Ukraine.
    Although its construction along the border with Belarus has been reported in the media since winter
  29. +8
    14 November 2023 09: 53
    The usual relishing of the failures of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. It would be nice to do this against the backdrop of the successes of the Russian Armed Forces or at least the successes of diplomacy, but somehow they are also not visible. It turns out that Zaluzhny is right. The 6th country turned out to be equal to the 40th. As I understand it, he is looking for a way out and the Russian Federation is looking for him?
  30. +4
    14 November 2023 10: 18
    Everything is the same as 2 years ago, it’s simple - what does the guarantor want and what is the goal in this war? Fog!!! And it seems that the victory and defeat of Ukraine is not particularly necessary. So we have a dead end, and a concrete one. Although?! Well, we haven’t “STARTED YET!” and we are not going to start the campaign. This explains our entire strategy and tactics. This is our main problem, and the rest is consequences!
  31. +6
    14 November 2023 10: 28
    A change in the ideology of operations is simply necessary. The transition from the Northern Military District to a real war, to the destruction of the UA infrastructure. And in an adult way. Their front line will stand, but the rear must collapse. It’s bad that Moscow is not ready for this. The deadlock affects both sides of the conflict.
  32. +5
    14 November 2023 10: 39
    Offensive... What will this give? The population of modern Ukraine is waiting for the Russian Army, just as the population of Soviet Ukraine was waiting for the Red Army? Well, there are some territories, but everything there needs to be restored because... where there was no war, everything was stolen. And the population will shoot our soldiers in the back at night as a sign of gratitude. Dead end.
    1. 0
      15 November 2023 05: 56
      And the population will shoot our soldiers in the back at night as a sign of gratitude. Dead end.

      Population MOVABLE object.
  33. +6
    14 November 2023 10: 42
    This is a strategic dead end for both sides. Neither Ukraine nor Russia have the strength and capabilities to radically change the situation at the front. Both sides are suffering heavy economic and, most importantly, demographic losses. There are no prerequisites for a quick end to the conflict.
  34. -3
    14 November 2023 11: 40
    The author is delusional! The Ukrainian Armed Forces offensive failed due to lack of air supremacy, and not the Surovikin line!
  35. +6
    14 November 2023 11: 47
    No matter how long all this goes on, there will still be negotiations, and the “jingoists” on both sides will be dissatisfied with the results of the negotiations, but paid propagandists will “explain to them” that this was done in order to save the lives of our citizens.
    1. +5
      14 November 2023 14: 58
      "jingoists" on both sides will be dissatisfied with the results of the negotiations


      They'll survive somehow.

      For example, here is a speech about the beginning of negotiations on a truce by Ayatollah Khomeini on July 19, 1988, in the 8th year of the Iran-Iraq war:
      ...Making this decision was more painful and harmful for me than drinking a cup of poison. Trusting in God, I drink this cup so that, by his decision, I can stop this meat grinder. ... I vowed to fight until my last breath. … It would have been easier for me to accept martyrdom, but I was forced to take into account the wise opinion of all military experts...
  36. +1
    14 November 2023 11: 57
    Quote: glory1974
    To do this, it is necessary to remove the Kyiv government, which the people did not choose. They cannot do this themselves.

    Will we be able to shift the Kremlin’s power OURSELVES?
    Or maybe we chose it ourselves?
    Strongly doubt.
  37. -3
    14 November 2023 12: 15
    How did NATO generals even come up with the idea of ​​sending Ukrainians on an attack with virtually no air support?


    How could aviation help against "Agriculture"? Moreover, with an abundance of air defense systems from the “needle”, missile, cannon and machine gun systems to the S-400.
  38. +1
    14 November 2023 13: 42
    For some it may be a dead end, but for others it is an operational pause.
  39. -3
    14 November 2023 14: 14
    This is not the first such article on VO recently; a lot has been said. Well, what to do, I’ll say the phrase “everything for the front, everything for victory.” Yes, we need to tighten our belts. But so far this is not visible.
    1. 0
      15 November 2023 13: 56
      Tighten your belts, of course yes, just so that it doesn’t work out like in 1917.
  40. 0
    14 November 2023 14: 25
    I don't agree. A detour from the north is obvious - plus a breakthrough in the south and the Banderas fall into the cauldron... Don’t tell me fairy tales about insurmountable defense - everything is surmountable. And I completely dismiss negotiations - about what? talk to them? Do you want to pass the war on to your children? No, it’s hard to crush the reptile to the end. It’s difficult, it hurts, but to the end. Do you understand me. You are Russian and I am Belarusian - our common enemy - I will do everything so that we stand together shoulder to shoulder. Against the reptile. I'm sad - I'm not Luke. And I can't give orders. It's like a sentence. But we will still enter and strike. Because we can’t do anything without you - we will be crushed without you. If they defeat you, we will be left alone with them. I don’t understand why Luka is holding out? 80 years ago we stood together against the Third Reich. And the fascist scum is unbearable to us. I don’t know all the politics, but Belarus simply cannot remain irrelevant. Russians and Belarusians. Damn - no words. Please forgive us that we are still not with you. Not with you yet. I hope that this won’t last long - and we’ll break the reptile’s neck together.
  41. 0
    14 November 2023 14: 42
    And it is clear to the housewife that the “breakthrough” is a propaganda idea, the “fog of war”! We are drawn into a long proxy war, pre-planned, with simultaneous underground sabotage actions within the Russian Federation, with the goal of destroying the country from the inside!!!
  42. +1
    14 November 2023 14: 51
    We must trust our commander in chief.
    He tells the truth, but for some reason they don’t believe him.

    https://www.rbc.ru/politics/03/03/2022/6220f9ad9a7947c5c1bfaf45
    “The military special operation is going according to plan, strictly according to schedule. All assigned tasks are successfully completed", the president said.


    It’s just that some people do not have an understanding of these very “set tasks”.
    And in my opinion they are quite obvious, at least the first two:
    1. Rally the population around the president
    2. Strengthen the irremovability of the elite
    1. +5
      14 November 2023 16: 00
      3. Continue stealing
  43. -1
    14 November 2023 15: 58
    “There are enough such creators in the Russian Army.” And the decisions are made by thieving mediocrities and amateurs. Throughout the vertical
  44. -3
    14 November 2023 18: 14
    What can prevent Ukraine from creating its own Surovikin line? Let me think, for example, a couple of thousand attack UAVs destroying construction equipment, or, in the author’s opinion, will the holes and dugouts themselves grow like mushrooms? And if you add 500 tornadoes with 150+ km missiles to a couple of thousand UAVs, then the Ukrainians will have to build their own line along the Dnieper. There are smart people in the Ministry of Defense, I have no doubt that the above-mentioned weapons are available, or even in excess
  45. +1
    14 November 2023 19: 24
    and Zelensky is just like our GDP...We haven’t even started with one...and nothing has ended with the other YET..(but guess what for someone else)
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  47. +5
    14 November 2023 22: 30
    For 2 years, it has not become clear what Putin and Co. want in this conflict. For the beautiful eyes, it is already clear that the Ukrainians will not join Russia, taking into account the Northern Military District and the number of victims, even more so. Saying that Ukraine should not be in NATO does not work; killing everyone there for this is also very strange. In short, we need to quickly get out of the situation and end the sacrifices on the part of Russia. I’m not even talking about the half a million military people who sit there without leaving, how the country has been living these 2 years, how everything has become more expensive, how people can’t live normally, athletes can’t compete in international competitions, airports have been closed for 2 years, and so on and so on. What now, live forever?
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  48. -1
    15 November 2023 08: 26
    [quote]
    And a single country cannot win a war of attrition with the entire collective West. [/quote]
    Well, it’s who believes in what... I don’t claim that God is with us! He didn’t report to me))) However, our country is exhausted not because of the petty mess on the western border, but because workers are forced to work 180 hours a month... That’s why there are bad demographics... and exhaustion... but this is in our hands to break the traditions of our ancestors. And with an acceptable birth rate in the Russian Federation and the United States, Europe, together with all its capital and migrants, is losing the war of attrition in a maximum of 30 years.
    1. +2
      15 November 2023 09: 43
      With an acceptable birth rate in the Russian Federation. One thing is that the birth rate is just negative and this trend has been going on for almost 10 years and, according to Rosstat forecasts, nothing will change. To change this, you need to completely change the approach to this issue, and even if you start now, it will take decades to get results. So this is a clear loss due to attrition
  49. +2
    15 November 2023 13: 16
    As they say: yesterday is early, tomorrow will be late. If in a year they tell us about successes in the form of the occupation of two dugouts near Avdeevka and Marinka, Rabotny and Ugledar, then the pendulum of public sentiment may swing unpredictably.
  50. 0
    15 November 2023 14: 17
    There is no dead end. It’s just that neither side has the ability to concentrate the forces needed to break through the defense. The front line is large and there are few villages along the entire front line.
  51. -2
    15 November 2023 14: 38
    Quote: Tank DestroyerSU-100
    As they say: yesterday is early, tomorrow will be late. If in a year they tell us about successes in the form of the occupation of two dugouts near Avdeevka and Marinka, Rabotny and Ugledar, then the pendulum of public sentiment may swing unpredictably.


    So you can now move to the forefront and radically change the situation. So that the pendulum does not swing good
  52. +1
    15 November 2023 18: 09
    Winter in the rest of Ukraine will be relatively mild and it won’t hurt to bring thousands of “dragon teeth” made in Ukraine. Bridges across the country are intact - what problems could there be? And this is just one issue with enemy logistics, which we destroy very conditionally.

    It looks like again some kind of agreement like Abramovich. It is not clear what kind of decisive successes or offensives we can talk about at the moment, if enemy logistics continues to operate effectively, the bridges, the need for destruction of which was discussed from the very beginning of the Northern Military District, continue to work, promptly delivering Ukrainian Armed Forces personnel, Western equipment and ammunition to the LBS. And now “dragon teeth” will be delivered to strengthen the defense in order to drown our possible offensive in blood.
  53. 0
    15 November 2023 22: 39
    There is a way out of the military-political impasse. The Russian authorities need to issue a Law in which it will be written that the entire territory of Ukraine, within the 1975 borders, is an integral part of Russia. We must first have such a Law, and then fight. Every reader can predict what such a Law will produce. The question remains open. Does the government need this?
  54. +3
    16 November 2023 02: 00
    Lord, when will Russia begin to adequately receive information about affairs at the front? Ours are now just as crazy in the offensive as the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the summer. How much equipment and people have already been killed?! Russian artillery still cannot master counter-battery warfare; Special Forces units are also thrown into meat grinders. All these tales about electronic warfare, who believes in them? This Kleshcheevka, there is a cloud of these Ukrainian drones constantly hanging there. At least some kind of competent management at the platoon/company/battalion level, and then the high authorities only earn medals and orders for themselves.... This is an endless and senseless war, the opponents will continue to retreat from month to month, only from collective farms, then defend these same villages... Until someone simply runs out of people or patience.
  55. -1
    16 November 2023 07: 15
    We just don’t have the money to support additional regions; 39% of FB for 2024 are planned for the military.
    Familiar North Military District veterans said that they had to leave liberated villages and return to their previous positions.
  56. 0
    17 November 2023 05: 37
    Quote: Bearded
    The military-industrial complex must increase production output by an order of magnitude

    Why are you not in the State Duma yet? :)