Cemetery for the IDF: catastrophic risks of Israel's ground operation

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Cemetery for the IDF: catastrophic risks of Israel's ground operation


It's not about the weather


It's like a vicious circle. First, Israel imposes a blockade on the Gaza Strip, which turns civilians against the Jewish state. The Israelis, with the approval of the American administration, blocked 2,1 million people from land, air and sea. This happened in 2007 in response to Hamas coming to power.



Since then, things haven't gotten any better in the Gaza Strip. According to current UN data, 63 percent of residents of the Palestinian enclave are malnourished, 82 percent live in poverty, and unemployment reaches 50 percent. That is, at least one million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip do not have a regular job or income. What can they do? Either live on handouts from Qatar and the UN, or earn food for the family on their own, that is, get involved in criminal activities.

By the way, among working-age youth, unemployment reaches 64 percent. There is also a total shortage of drinking water - 95 percent of the population does not know what it is. Electricity in the Palestinian Authority was available for 10–11 hours a day at best.


Heaven on Earth is the Palestinian city of Gaza.

Israel has now cut off water and electricity supplies to the enclave. Will this be able to change the will of the Palestinians? The question is rhetorical. But more children, women and old people will die in hospitals, and a couple of million people will face the risk of terrible epidemics. Regular strikes on Gaza's urban areas add to the misery.

Naturally, radicals like the Palestinian Hamas take advantage of this. In the name of revenge, the Arabs take up weapon and reach the tragic events of October 7 of this year.

Enraged Jews respond by “cutting the grass,” that is, physically destroying civilians in the Gaza Strip. Sometimes real terrorists also get caught in the mix. In the next round of hatred, the Israelis mercilessly bomb the Palestinians, and for some time the attacks on the Jewish state subside.


Everything is ready for the ground operation in the Gaza Strip. If it is not started, Jerusalem will suffer a powerful defeat on the information front.

Now another spiral of violence is unfolding before us, this time unprecedentedly cruel.

Given all of the above, Israel risks encountering significant levels of resistance during a future ground operation. The enemy has an extensive base for recruiting militants, a population that is extremely angry with the Israelis, and an advantage for the defending side.

Even the number of armed groups of Hamas and their sympathizers is not completely clear. According to some sources, at least 20 thousand, according to others - more than 40 thousand. Based on the statements of the Israeli military leadership about the impending destruction of all Hamas members, an apocalyptic picture appears. The last time Jews came to fight in the Gaza Strip was in 2008 during Operation Cast Lead. According to independent and very rough estimates, for every Hamas militant killed, at least 3-4 civilians were killed.

It’s hard to even talk about the scale of the collateral losses of a modern operation - the most densely populated territory in the world lies in front of the attackers. Two million people from the Gaza Strip cannot even evacuate anywhere. In the south, the Egyptians are not allowed to enter, and the unfortunate Palestinians, for obvious reasons, are denied entry into Israel. These are a cornered people with nothing to lose. Israel is delaying the start of the ground operation for a reason. The weather has nothing to do with it.

Gaza Tunnels


From the very beginning of the Hamas terrorist attack, it was clear that it would not be possible to remain seriously and for a long time on Israeli territory. It is impossible to call the leadership of the Palestinian enclave insane - the commanders were guided by completely rational considerations. The barbaric hostage taking is necessary to free Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons. Including women and children whom Jerusalem suspects of terrorism.

It’s impossible to get into the heads of the military leaders, but it seems that there were two plans in stock. First, Israel agrees to exchange all prisoners for all prisoners, which is an undoubted victory for the Gaza Strip. The second is that Israel does not agree to any negotiations and invades the Palestinian enclave. Here the hostages play the role of a human shield, and at the same time a reason for condemnation of Israeli aggression. So far, none of the scenarios have been implemented.

Israel experienced national humiliation on October 7 and is not ready for a second one - so there will be no exchange yet. Perhaps it will not take place at all - air bombs will kill the last prisoners.

The main questions arise regarding the ground operation. The IDF is frankly playing for time, which is not at all on its side.


Gaza Strip from satellite.

The best thing to do would have been to invade the Gaza Strip immediately after the Hamas forces were driven out of Israel. Approach the enemy on the shoulders of the retreating ones. But the Jews are not coming in yet. There are several reasons.

If we're talking about this, the Gaza Strip is now somewhat reminiscent of the Ukrainian fortified area near Avdiivka. Only the Palestinians have been digging underground tunnels since 2007, and the nationalists in Ukraine have been constructing concrete since 2014. According to the most conservative estimates, the Arabs dug at least 500 kilometers of tunnels under a narrow strip of the Mediterranean coast. There is a whole underground country here, inaccessible to air bombs and missiles. They know how to dig well - the first tunnels appeared in the 80s.

Through underground passages, the Palestinians moved contraband and, of course, weapons from Egypt. The so-called “Gaza metro” allows you not only to move secretly throughout the entire territory of the enclave, but also to enter Israel. Hospitals, headquarters and barracks have been dug underground since 2007. Those captured in early October are now being held in underground galleries.

The scale of the moves is so significant that they make it possible to hide the movement of vehicles and light artillery. The Arabs of Palestine have found a fairly effective means of defense against the dominance in the skies aviation enemy. Given the high population density, any Israeli strike causes minimal damage to dungeons and maximum damage to civilians. Given that Egypt refuses to accept refugees, the situation is clearly on the side of Hamas militants.

In the event of a ground operation Tanks Israel will easily march 6–12 kilometers to the Mediterranean Sea and cut the enclave into pieces. But underground communications cannot be cut so easily, and this will allow relatively small groups of militants to deliver painful blows. Even the total destruction of all buildings in front of the advancing army will not solve the problem - Hamas activists will attack from the flanks and rear.

There will be many deaths. Now they are comparing potential losses with the tragedy of Iraqi Mosul, the head-on assault of which claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. But the terrorists did not prepare Mosul for defense for 16 years. And the Israelis do not have their own proxies, like the Americans - IDF soldiers will die.

Gaza tunnels are multi-story buildings in reverse. Geology allows you to go tens of meters deep without problems, which is what the Palestinians do. Closer to the surface there are shelters and passages for the transfer of manpower. At the second deepening level there are missile factories, barracks and hospitals. And finally, command posts are located at 30–40 meters, which are reinforced with reinforced concrete. Now the Israelis are intensively training to storm the dungeons at the Tze'elim base, where the IDF has built its own network of tunnels.

Difficulties with intelligence do not add optimism to the Israeli military. After the Shabak and Mossad essentially failed over many years of work in the Gaza Strip, it is now even approximately unknown what awaits the Jews in the Palestinian enclave. If you managed to fool Israel by the nose over the past couple of years, then why not continue to do so now. You cannot be sure of the quantity of weapons, their quality, or the number of militants.

Israel does not have accurate maps of Hamas underground shelters - this is a key problem in the ground operation. There is also the possibility of fighting spreading throughout the Gaza Strip. As is known, up to one million civilians were evacuated to the south of the autonomy. Underground communications permeate the entire enclave, and nothing prevents the militants from transferring their forces after the refugees.






The length of Gaza's underground tunnels is greater than the length of the Moscow metro. The Israelis will have to fight for almost every meter.

Let’s not forget about the extremely dense development in the Gaza Strip - in fact, the entire enclave has turned into one large urban agglomeration. Even without tunnels, militants are capable of seriously hurting any army in the world.

Risks are present in northern Israel. We are talking about the Lebanese Hezbollah, which is holding down a lot of forces at its borders. Tanks and armored vehicles are gradually being knocked out, forcing the Americans to send light armored vehicles by transport planes to Israel for the first time in many years. The risk of a militant invasion from the north is very high, especially when it is synchronized with the IDF's entry into the Gaza Strip.

One can hardly hope for prudence on Israel's part - the military's eyes are filled with a thirst for revenge, especially when airstrikes do not cause significant damage to the enemy.

Now the remaining cool heads are trying to weigh all the risks and consequences of the invasion. It is not known what will prevail, but one thing is certain - the war in the Middle East will be long.
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  1. +14
    25 October 2023 05: 25
    McGregor said that the Israeli and US special forces sent into Gaza were all destroyed. We’ll leave the assessment of veracity to McGregor’s conscience. But this explains the slowdown in Israel's operation.
    1. -21
      25 October 2023 05: 47
      It’s funny that only a retired colonel bought by RT reported this
      1. +19
        25 October 2023 06: 09
        McGregor told Carlson, Carlson told Abraham, Abraham told Jacob... laughing
      2. +14
        25 October 2023 15: 02
        Well, it would be strange if the Israeli leadership loudly declared publicly about the lost special forces and the destruction of its elite forces...
      3. +2
        25 October 2023 18: 57
        It would be a lie and they would be sued. He’s not spreading slander about the purchase of the brave RT warrior, hiding under his nickname. Speaks clearly, openly and in detail. sad
      4. +5
        25 October 2023 20: 04
        Why not Putin’s agent right away?
      5. 0
        26 October 2023 11: 27
        How much is a retired colonel of the American army worth today?
        1. +2
          26 October 2023 13: 04
          A little. From 1K to 3K $ per speech/post/publication.
          But still much more expensive than the pluses/minuses here in the comments)
          1. +2
            26 October 2023 16: 46
            What a cheap American retiree
  2. +4
    25 October 2023 06: 06
    If the operation is carried out, Israel will not face an easy battle, but a difficult battle in which there will be no winner.
  3. +12
    25 October 2023 06: 18
    The IDF also understands that a ground operation for Israel will result in large losses, so when talking about readiness they are in no hurry to start it. While they are trying to destroy Hamas commanders without even looking at the losses of the civilian population of the enclave. Only the one killed is immediately replaced by another who is no less smart and warlike.
  4. +16
    25 October 2023 06: 36
    Yes, everything is written correctly. But Israel's goal is different. This is to close the issue with the Palestinians and the Palestinian state forever. Israel needs territory! Therefore, there will be genocide until the last Palestinian! And Gaza will simply be razed to the ground.
    1. +19
      25 October 2023 08: 20
      Quote: steel maker
      Therefore, there will be genocide until the last Palestinian! And Gaza will simply be razed to the ground.

      Well, to solve this problem, an invasion is not necessary. Without water and food, a peaceful creature will not last long. This is what the Jews are waiting for, the mass death of civilians. Almost a gas van the size of an entire enclave. Nice guys, Jews, and they study well. Hitler applauds from the other world...
    2. +1
      25 October 2023 22: 44
      Quote: steel maker
      Yes, everything is written correctly. But Israel's goal is different. This is to close the issue with the Palestinians and the Palestinian state forever. Israel needs territory! Therefore, there will be genocide until the last Palestinian! And Gaza will simply be razed to the ground.

      God knows what Israel really needs, but I would like to see proposals to the question - how to deal with terrorists who cut off heads?
      a) - in Gaza
      b) - in Syria
      c) - in the Caucasus
      d) - in Ukraine
      Considering that they hide in schools, hospitals, ride in ambulances, and in the evening they become respectable residents of their village/town?
      Not to pay attention (our way)... Killing our soldiers in frontal assaults without artillery support (also our humane way) - but our way leads to a demographic catastrophe for US, not our enemies...
      And yes, they all (let me remind you, Gaza, Syria, the Caucasus, Ukraine) are fighting for the freedom of their country and their hearts burn with revenge for the murdered innocent civilians.
      1. 0
        26 October 2023 08: 14
        Quote from tsvetahaki
        How to deal with terrorists who cut off heads?

        Good question. As we see, Israel has found the answer. We must kill women, children and old people. Massively. As many as possible, hundreds of thousands. Moreover, aim specifically at defenseless civilians.
        Cool. Firstly, there are only more terrorists from this, and secondly, I personally now do not see the slightest difference between them and the Jews. Israel is carrying out one of the largest massacres of defenseless people in history. Only the USA can compete with it.
        It is well known from the US experience that this does not work, the enemy armies only fight angrier. But both the United States and, as we now see, Israel get an unreal thrill from the unpunished massacres of civilians.
        What is the difference between the creatures?
        1. +1
          26 October 2023 20: 32
          Quote: Mikhail3
          What is the difference between the creatures?

          Don’t you remember how General Ermolov turned the situation around in the Caucasus? By what methods?
          And that Hamas supported and pushed Israel itself - through peaceful contacts, negotiations, aid supplies? Cormid Hamas from his own hand?
          It is well known from the Israeli experience that this does not work, laughing laughing laughing

          However, I am personally concerned about the situation with one of our well-fed areas.
          No matter how it works out on Israeli rails.
  5. -26
    25 October 2023 07: 15
    For Israel, the solution to the problem is the occupation of the Sinai Peninsula for a complete blockade of Gaza.
    In the future, two options are possible:
    - or a complete blockade, with carpet bombing, which should force the Palestinian uprising to capitulate due to mass death of the population (followed by a purge following the example of Warsaw in 1944);
    - or a nuclear deterrent strike, to achieve the same goals, but with fewer civilian casualties.
    In the second option, non-interference in the conflict by third forces will be simultaneously guaranteed.
    1. +23
      25 October 2023 07: 32
      With a nuclear strike, strong! Especially taking into account the size of Israel, and the subsequent contamination of the territory they already lack. We have a lot of land, and Simonyan says something about nuclear explosions over Siberia. It’s amazing how easily some commentators have thrown around nuclear strikes lately, apparently they’ve watched the movies
      1. -9
        25 October 2023 08: 03
        It’s amazing how easily some commentators have thrown around nuclear strikes lately, apparently they’ve watched the movies

        Everything related to the use of both tactical nuclear weapons and strategic nuclear weapons does not tolerate amateurism, usually expressed in journalistic bogeymen such as “destruction of all life on the planet” and “radioactive contamination for millennia.” Professionals at the headquarters of nuclear powers have long determined both the goals and results of the use of nuclear weapons, including environmental consequences. I don’t want to be sarcastic on this topic, but how many people wake up and remember the Chernobyl disaster? But tens of tons of highly radioactive substances REALLY were released there. Nevertheless, life, even in areas of maximum infection, did not stop.
        So, if Israel uses nuclear weapons competently, the consequences will be minimal.
        1. +1
          25 October 2023 08: 46
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          It’s amazing how easily some commentators have thrown around nuclear strikes lately, apparently they’ve watched the movies

          Everything related to the use of both tactical nuclear weapons and strategic nuclear weapons does not tolerate amateurism, usually expressed in journalistic bogeymen such as “destruction of all life on the planet” and “radioactive contamination for millennia.” Professionals at the headquarters of nuclear powers have long determined both the goals and results of the use of nuclear weapons, including environmental consequences. I don’t want to be sarcastic on this topic, but how many people wake up and remember the Chernobyl disaster? But tens of tons of highly radioactive substances REALLY were released there. Nevertheless, life, even in areas of maximum infection, did not stop.
          So, if Israel uses nuclear weapons competently, the consequences will be minimal.

          Didn’t you think that by creating a precedent for the use of nuclear weapons, Israel would be isolated? There are already strong protests against bombings in the world. In addition, other states will be able to use tactical nuclear weapons to resolve conflicts
          1. +7
            25 October 2023 09: 25
            Even as a boy, I remember the “heavy protests against the bombings,” but there is still no isolation of Israel...
          2. 0
            25 October 2023 18: 23
            and other states will be able to use tactical nuclear weapons to resolve conflicts

            This is generally inevitable if the nonproliferation treaty collapses completely.
        2. +6
          25 October 2023 08: 54
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          It’s amazing how easily some commentators have thrown around nuclear strikes lately, apparently they’ve watched the movies

          Nevertheless, life, even in areas of maximum infection, did not stop.

          What kind of life is this? In Pripyat? Yes, you can run around with shovels, dig a tunnel under the reactor, get your 5 x-rays and go home. But in the long term, all these people had big health problems. I’m generally silent about kids with 2 heads
        3. +5
          25 October 2023 12: 42
          Easily. ""How many people wake up and remember the Chernobyl disaster? But tens of tons of highly radioactive substances REALLY were released there. Nevertheless, life, even in areas of maximum infection, did not stop"Well, yes, several stubborn elderly Belarusians remained alive in the zone, but the rest were evacuated. Otherwise, a paradise for botanists and other researchers of the effect of radiation on mutations, as well as owners of travel agencies who, for money, let tourists on safe paths. In case of use Nuclear weapons add shockwave, light, etc.
          1. -2
            25 October 2023 18: 31
            In the case of using nuclear weapons, add a shock wave, light, etc.

            Do not add, but rather define the main components of the use of tactical nuclear weapons: shock wave, radiation (of all ranges) and electromagnetic pulse (the latter is the mass death of cardiac patients with stimulants.
            1. +2
              25 October 2023 20: 12
              There is practically no EMP in tactical nuclear weapons - it appears during high-altitude nuclear explosions. The use of nuclear weapons is also dangerous for the Israeli troops themselves standing nearby. They will be hit even harder than the Palestinian ruins. They will only have to hide in their Merkavas and Intentions - but will there be enough of them for everyone?
    2. +1
      25 October 2023 20: 09
      What will your vigorous loaves do with this whole “Gaza metro” system? Nothing! And then the IDF will have to storm the radioactive ruins themselves. Stupid, senseless and...expensive (but the Jews know how to count money!) am
      1. 0
        26 October 2023 06: 59
        What will your vigorous loaves do with this whole “Gaza metro” system?

        Since when is my loaf strong? He is Israeli and he has his own bosses.
        The use of nuclear weapons is also dangerous for the Israeli troops themselves standing nearby. They will be hit even harder than the Palestinian ruins. They will only have to hide in their Merkavas and Intentions - but will there be enough of them for everyone?

        It is unclear why sheltered troops stationed in the distance would suffer MORE than dense urban areas at ground zero. And in the tunnels they will wait until they are actually either flooded or poisoned.
        There is practically no EMP in tactical nuclear weapons - it appears during high-altitude nuclear explosions.

        As was recently determined during a medical examination, all stores with stimulants are unusable precisely because of the failure of pacemakers under the influence of EMR, which is quite weak and not necessarily of nuclear origin.
  6. +15
    25 October 2023 07: 24
    What is happening now in Palestine is nothing more than the final blow to the affairs of the Big Three. In attempts to establish a new world order, everything that was suffered during the Second World War is destroyed. Now external political forces, without particularly working, are destroying what was created earlier.
  7. +7
    25 October 2023 07: 25
    Today the news showed that they are preparing to flood the tunnels, as they did not say, but this is the main option. It's creepy for sure
    1. +4
      25 October 2023 07: 37
      They can also pump in carbon monoxide, like the Germans did in 1942 at the Adzhimushkaya quarry.
    2. +2
      25 October 2023 08: 08
      they are preparing to flood the tunnels
      This is a logical decision, especially since the sea is nearby.
  8. 0
    25 October 2023 07: 25
    There is one more point: Israel is surrounded by Arab states, which will not stand aside, and no longer stand by... Turkey, by the way, is on the side of the Palestinians. The likelihood that Jews will be torn apart like Tuzik is a hot water bottle is real. By the way, Zelensky has already admitted that he is building a new Israel; there are many videos on this topic on the Internet. It is a fact that with what zeal they and Poroshenko destroyed the population and Orthodoxy! The Jews understand this too, which is why they are in a hurry to begin the operation; unlike us, they take care of their own!
    1. -1
      25 October 2023 07: 32
      Israel is surrounded by Arab states, which will not stand aside, and no longer stand

      These Arab sub-states have already resisted en masse both in 1967 and 1973. They washed themselves in blood and crawled away each into their own hole, fighting among themselves. So the Palestinians should not have hopes on the topic “Foreign countries will help us.”
      As for Turkey, it will enthusiastically take part in sharing the post-Arab pie together with Israel, for example in Syria.
      1. +5
        25 October 2023 10: 45
        Quote: Victor Leningradets
        These Arab sub-states have already resisted en masse both in 1967 and 1973. They washed themselves in blood and crawled away each into their own hole, fighting among themselves.

        At one time, I remember we laughed at China. So now, look at the calendar, and then look at the real former “sub-states” in the directory, the number of population, the army (the presence of its own nuclear weapons) and the economy... We ourselves are sneaking something in front of them, we must be honest. Where did we get the geranium bomber drones from? Now, in general, we, as a state, look somewhat dim against their background, unlike the USSR!
      2. +2
        25 October 2023 10: 49
        Times change, lessons are learned. The militia also got into trouble with the Ukrainian Armed Forces in 2014, but these days?
      3. +7
        25 October 2023 12: 56
        "1967 and 1973 "A lot of time has passed. The Arabs have changed. They have become rich, if they can buy whatever they want. Moreover, Iran is behind them. However, I don’t belong to either one or the other, I don’t care. It’s only nice that these events, at least not by much, distract the enemy’s attention from the Ukrainian fronts.
        1. -1
          25 October 2023 17: 04
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          The Arabs have changed. They became rich, if they can buy whatever they want.

          Who became rich? Egypt? Jordan? Syria? Saudi Arabia. Qatar and the UAE, yes, became rich, but they did not fight with Israel. Iran is not too rich either
          1. 0
            27 October 2023 00: 53
            Who became rich? Egypt? Jordan? Syria? Saudi Arabia. Qatar and the UAE, yes, became rich, but they did not fight with Israel. Iran is not too rich either

            Iranians are Persian
        2. -3
          25 October 2023 18: 41
          The Arabs have changed. They became rich, if they can buy whatever they want

          You cannot buy the valor of Judah Macovey and the sacrifice of the Mossad defenders. It's in the genes. But it is quite possible to waste the entire inheritance if you worship the shekel and honor Saul as a prophet.
          I do not sympathize with Israel, in the past it was my enemy, but the situation must be perceived as it is, and I would not like it to be.
          The Arabs are by no means the heirs of Saladin, but businessmen who constantly quarrel with each other. Then they wanted the USSR to join in against Israel for them, and then the USA and NATO, moreover, for the idea of ​​“socialist orientation”, “non-alignment” and other echoes of the “world revolution”. Thank God it didn’t catch fire.
          So leave to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to the mechanic what is mechanic's.
          1. -1
            26 October 2023 21: 24
            Quote: Victor Leningradets
            I do not sympathize with Israel, in the past it was my enemy, but the situation must be perceived as it is, and I would not like it to be.

            Unfortunately, people do not think at all about the lessons - for example, from Turkey. Do we need a strong Türkiye? Even if he sometimes barks at Americans???
            The Americans were very happy about the successes of Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, such defenders of the Afghan people. Now our people rejoice at the success of Hamas...
            Despite the fact that Transcaucasia is no longer ours... and Azerbaijan - our next "partner" - can be used in very different ways...
            They exude anger at Israel’s attacks on Gaza - and somehow they don’t think about it - but the arrival of our Iskander at a cafe where a Nazi meeting was going on, but civilians also died - wasn’t that necessary? And counter-battery combat against Ukrainian Smerchs in the courtyards of schools and hotels? At a nuclear power plant? Not at all humane? Let them shoot, let us pay with our lives for humanism towards the enemy?
            And don't the cities on the front line in the country 404 look like Gaza on both sides of the front?
            Yes, we have intelligence officers - they have spies. “He’s a son of a bitch, of course, but he’s OUR son of a bitch” - that’s how the damned Americans were accused of double standards... and here they are doing much worse in the comments...
            The problem is that everything will shoot at us... You can’t be a weather vane.
            Yes, the conflict in Gaza is beneficial to us. There is nothing to be ashamed of and we should be glad that our forces and supplies are being diverted.
            But flirting with terrorists, justifying them in the spirit of tsipso... smells very bad.
    2. +1
      25 October 2023 09: 15
      Israel is surrounded by Arab states that will not stand aside
      Will the USA and Europe arm Arab countries to fight Israel?
      1. +1
        25 October 2023 12: 58
        Why the USA and Europe if there is military trade.
        1. +2
          25 October 2023 17: 28
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          Why the USA and Europe if there is military trade.

          Voentorg is loaded with orders
  9. Des
    +6
    25 October 2023 07: 39
    From the article: “It is impossible to call the leadership of the Palestinian enclave insane - the commanders were guided by completely rational considerations. The barbaric hostage-taking is necessary for the release of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons, including women and children whom Jerusalem suspects of terrorism. “Yes, yes, yes. .. this has happened more than once - “rational considerations”. Hostage taking. So many. Abroad, in our country - in the past and present.
    And that’s why it’s always these “rational thinkers” who use “barbaric hostage-taking”, which is “necessary for the liberation...” --- always called terrorists and tried to destroy it. The author considers it justified to take hostages in response to the actions of the state intelligence services (see quote above). How is that?
    About water, electricity.
    "Israel has now cut off water and electricity supplies to the enclave." Right away, and this is an article - analytics (!) - it would be normal (for an analyst)) to provide at least some data on the quantity, percentage or amount of payment for these analysis items. No. Because there is no possession of information. Questions arise. Who - or at whose expense - paid for supplies to the village. Gas, water and electricity. energy? And how much is this as a percentage of what is mined (produced) there?
    Of course, Israel is preparing for losses during a ground operation in Gaza. The point is that he can do it.
    1. +5
      25 October 2023 13: 07
      Who - or at whose expense - paid for supplies to the village. Gas, water and electricity. energy? UN through UNRWA.
      1. Des
        0
        26 October 2023 07: 30
        Thank you, otherwise there is an opinion that Israel selflessly supplied water, electricity and fuel.
  10. +10
    25 October 2023 08: 22
    Some terrorists, from Hamas, against other terrorists, from the leadership and command of Israel. In this mess, I feel sorry for only one side - the children and Palestinians and Israelis, who do not share the cannibalistic ideological beliefs of the majority of Palestinians and Israelis...
    1. +6
      25 October 2023 10: 00
      Some terrorists, from Hamas, against other terrorists, from the leadership and command of Israel.
      Very accurate definition.
  11. +7
    25 October 2023 08: 25
    It is not entirely correct to compare Gaza with Ukraine, even purely territorially. Here the ground operation is more like a nursery group, nothing prevents Israel from simply wiping Palestine off the face of the earth, methodically, slowly, meter by meter. They don’t need to count human lives, the press will write about the atrocities of terrorists, the UN will not ask questions and shout genocite. Israel has a good air and weapons advantage. And yes, NATO does not supply weapons to Palestine...
  12. +8
    25 October 2023 09: 20
    The United States is restraining Israel from carrying out the operation. They cannot fully support Israel, this will provoke a jump in oil prices. They do not need an oil crisis. And they cannot act as a peacemaker, their pro-Israeli lobby is too strong. But Israel, sooner or later, will launch an operation. Now the situation is like after the shots in Sarajevo in 1914.
  13. 0
    25 October 2023 10: 30
    Dense urban areas are simply an ideal hiding place for Hamas militants!
  14. +3
    25 October 2023 11: 22
    The fact is that Israel is trapped. Not to react is a complete loss of face. Going into a meat grinder is a huge risk of running into blows from all sides. And the territory is such that a breakthrough from the front would be a disaster. Israel will simply cease to exist, the population will literally be slaughtered before the eyes of the whole world.
    1. +3
      25 October 2023 16: 57
      Israel has repeatedly stated that if its existence is threatened, it will use nuclear weapons that it does not have.
      And this time there is not even a close Arab united front... It seems that no one cares about the Palestinians.
  15. +3
    25 October 2023 11: 48
    Quote: steel maker
    But Israel's goal is different. This is to close the issue with the Palestinians and the Palestinian state forever. Israel needs territory! Therefore, there will be genocide until the last Palestinian! And Gaza will simply be razed to the ground.

    There is no way to close the question.
    1. They will raze everything that is above the ground without occupying the territory, although it will take quite a lot of time and resources, but they will raze everything that is underground without a land operation and the occupation of the entire sector.
    2. Genocide of Palestinians is theoretically impossible. Some of them will flee to neighboring Arab countries. In this case, the most active and irreconcilable part will run away. The war with the Arabs will not only not stop, but will expand its scope, and Israel has a very bad prospect in this war. Someday everything will end like in Karabakh.
  16. +2
    25 October 2023 12: 26
    What does MacGregor have to do with it? The IDF General Staff and the Americans have already put on Bibi’s desk an approximate estimate of the losses he will suffer during the assault. The bill will amount to thousands, if not tens of thousands of soldiers; Israel is not ready for this.
  17. +6
    25 October 2023 12: 49
    No matter how cynical it may sound now, this plays into the hands of the Russian Federation. The problems themselves are aplenty, any distraction from the enemies (USA) is beneficial.
  18. +2
    25 October 2023 12: 49
    No matter how cynical it may sound now, this plays into the hands of the Russian Federation. The problems themselves are aplenty, any distraction from the enemies (USA) is beneficial.
  19. +2
    25 October 2023 13: 39
    One can hardly hope for prudence on the part of Israel - the eyes of the military are filled with a thirst for revenge


    The military is just the opposite - they plan everything with a cool head and without any “thirst for revenge.”
    And it is they who are now showing the greatest skepticism and caution.

    And the media and politicians are heating up passions. And they urge the military to take action.
  20. +4
    25 October 2023 13: 45
    Quote: parusnik
    If the operation is carried out, Israel will not face an easy battle, but a difficult battle in which there will be no winner.


    Who said that the Zionists would fight?

    The Israelis will do what they do better than anyone else on Earth - they will organize a total genocide of the Palestinian people.

    The US supports them, nothing else matters.
    They (the Zionists) even “rejected” the Christ-seller UN Sex General, Guterres, yesterday and said that he has no right to hold this post.
    Come on, even the main Muslim of Russia is silent about the bloody massacre carried out by the Jews, killing more than 2500 thousand children of Palestine.

    You understand what influence the Israeli Zionists have in Russia, if the fool who burned the Koran was so dismissed, and not a single Russian mufti or mullah said a word about the Jewish executioners of the Palestinian people.

    Yes, this is understandable, if one of the muftis says something about Zionist executioners, he will immediately be crushed into dust, accused of denying the Holocaust, and will be credited with the fact that his grandfather personally burned the victims in the ovens of Auschwitz and Dachau.
    1. +2
      26 October 2023 10: 08
      Quote: Comrade Kim
      killing more than 2500 thousand children of Palestine.

      Yes, the entire population of Palestine is smaller than what you wrote about children...
  21. +1
    25 October 2023 16: 28
    First, Gaza must be cut into sectors. Let's say in half. More or less take control of the partition zone. Choose a wider street that runs approximately across the sector of the border to the sea. Explore with ground penetrating radar. In the area of ​​the discovered voids, drill wells and lay as much explosives as possible. Blow up. If georadar is ineffective, then it is stupid to drill wells from the border to the sea about this street in two rows every twenty meters. Let’s take the width of the sector to be 15 km. This is 1500 wells. If you bring all the drilling rigs for artesian wells onto a chassis from all over Israel, then you can do it in a reasonable time frame. Each contains 200 kg of explosives. This is 300 tons. Not so much. Bang. Preferably at the same time. Cut into the next sector... but first you need to take control of such a zone, keep it and be ready to carry out work under fire and suffer losses. Well, along the way, undermine all the entrances to the tunnels, or even everything that looks like them, from wells to cellars.
  22. BAI
    +7
    25 October 2023 16: 44
    Israeli tanks will easily cover 6–12 kilometers to the Mediterranean Sea and cut the enclave into pieces.

    I wouldn't be so sure. The roads are blocked by rubble from the rubble of houses, thanks to Israeli aviation. It may well turn out that urban areas are completely impassable for tanks. Plus - already existing experience in their destruction.
  23. +3
    25 October 2023 17: 48
    They'll slam on the brakes. Israel is not economically able to sustain a long, high-intensity war. Even if billions of dollars are poured into it. What is happening now - I think the steam will come out before the end of this year. Everything was the same as before - no one won anything. Both sides simply chopped up civilians.
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  25. -1
    25 October 2023 18: 32
    Hana to Israel! Hezbollah does not “if” synchronize with the entry into Gaza, that’s exactly what it will do. And a couple or three more connections will be connected
  26. +1
    25 October 2023 18: 34
    Quote: steel maker
    Gaza will simply be razed to the ground

    If that would solve the issue, but it’s unlikely
  27. 0
    25 October 2023 18: 34
    Quote: steel maker
    Gaza will simply be razed to the ground

    If that would solve the issue, but it’s unlikely
  28. 0
    25 October 2023 18: 44
    Yes, Israel is afraid to start its SVO. Including because I’ve seen enough in a year and a half how our Russian Northern Military District did not go according to plan. And there is nothing to be ashamed of, this is natural fear. The consequences of entering Gaza will be terrible, the losses of the Israeli army will be enormous. Well, the reaction in the world is already, to put it mildly, anti-Israel.
  29. 0
    25 October 2023 19: 47
    Israel must be destroyed! These “chosen ones” have long surpassed the Germans in their cruelty.
  30. +1
    25 October 2023 20: 17
    Cemetery for the IDF: catastrophic risks of Israel's ground operation
    The epoch-making title of the article and its corresponding, speculative content. That is why the IDF did not enter the Gaza Strip, since the command is well aware of all the risks associated with a ground operation + certain international pressure. Accordingly, airstrikes are carried out in order to weaken the enemy as much as possible and continue to collect intelligence information...
  31. -2
    26 October 2023 05: 02
    Quote: WFP-1
    Cemetery for the IDF: catastrophic risks of Israel's ground operation
    The epoch-making title of the article and its corresponding, speculative content. That is why the IDF did not enter the Gaza Strip, since the command is well aware of all the risks associated with a ground operation + certain international pressure. Accordingly, airstrikes are carried out in order to weaken the enemy as much as possible and continue to collect intelligence information...

    What is the “maximum weakening of the enemy”?, they are extinguishing peaceful people there in a heavy way, regardless of anything. Adik applauds the Israelis.
  32. -1
    26 October 2023 13: 12
    I understand that there are no jobs in Gaza, problems with water and work, medicine and education. But look at these photos, what this area looks like and look at the USA (some areas of course)

    Atlanta

    Camden

    Los Angeles
  33. 0
    26 October 2023 15: 18
    Choose a wider street that runs approximately across the sector of the border to the sea. Explore with ground penetrating radar. In the area of ​​the discovered voids, drill wells and lay as much explosives as possible. Blow up.

    Very funny.
    1. First of all, the above-ground territory above the tunnels must be occupied, and this is what tunnels exist for - for covering and moving fighters before the battle. After occupying the territory, the tunnels have already fulfilled their purpose and will usually be empty. The enemy will move to the neighboring sector.
    2. It didn’t occur to you that wells could also be blown up before or during drilling. Moreover, with the usual mines themselves. And ground penetrating radar is an ideal target for enemy homing devices.
    3. After the destruction of some tunnels, it is not so difficult to restore them, or to bypass the area that was undermined, or to build new tunnels. And they make new exits.