Does the Russian army look pale against the background of the military power of NATO?

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Does the Russian army look pale against the background of the military power of NATO?

Today, the Russian Army (RA) is involved in the largest military conflict in Europe since 1945. Based on the results achieved in the NMD, one can compare the capabilities of the Russian army and the NATO armies.

The first conclusion: inflating the Russian military threat to Europe in the West, cultivating fear of the allegedly possible invasion of the Russian army, has absolutely no reason!



The fighting in Ukraine showed that Vladimir Putin did not prepare the army for a blitzkrieg in Poland, and even more so for a march tank avalanches to the English Channel! Apparently, the Kremlin's strategy in a potential military conflict with NATO comes down to conventional and nuclear missile strikes against the enemy. That is, in the confrontation with NATO, the bet is made exclusively on nuclear deterrence.

Missile power



Let's start with the good ones News: the hypersonic missile system "Dagger" is not a cartoon! During the JMD, Russia confirmed that it has hypersonic missiles, against which NATO does not yet have protection.

By hitting military and strategic targets in Ukraine, Russia has demonstrated the impressive power of its missile weapons long-range - in the form of mass launches of cruise missiles (CR), hitting targets with high accuracy. KR air-based X-101 is capable of hitting targets almost at an intercontinental range of 5,5 thousand kilometers.

The arsenal used by Russia in thousands of missiles and the ability to send a hundred missiles to targets in a salvo put Russia in second place after the United States in the world rating of powers possessing missile weapons.

Russian missile systems make it possible for Russia to terrorize all of Europe and even the coast of the United States with missiles in any circumstances. Poland will be the most fun of all, since its territory is within the radius of destruction of all missile systems in service with the Russian army.

Aviation



The Russian Aerospace Forces during the SVO demonstrated significantly lower capabilities than expected from them. The air campaign of the Aerospace Forces in Ukraine, in terms of the results achieved, is many times inferior to the results achieved during the air offensive of the Multinational Force (MNF) against Iraq in 1991 and the bombing of Yugoslavia aviation NATO in 1999.

The reasons for this result will someday be explained by experts, to whom I do not belong. I propose to look at the differences between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Western Air Forces that emerged during the NWO.

There is no exact figure for the number of aircraft and helicopters involved in the NWO. Before the start of the NMD, according to the estimates of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, voiced by the speaker of the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Yuri Ignat:

“Around Ukraine, Russian aviation groups amounted to 700 aircraft - 450 aircraft and 250 helicopters.”

In the future, the grouping of the VKS, according to the estimates of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, increased to 800 combat vehicles - by increasing the number of helicopters to 360 pieces.

For comparison, in 1991, in the air campaign against Iraq, the MNF deployed 2000 combat aircraft and more than 400 attack and anti-tank helicopters. In 1999, in the bombing of Yugoslavia, NATO used an air force grouping of 1000 combat aircraft.

The scale of the tasks facing the Aerospace Forces in Ukraine is no less than the tasks facing the Air Force of the MNF in Iraq, and the air defense of Ukraine, equipped with more modern air defense systems, is much more dangerous than the air defense of Iraq. At the same time, the Russian Aerospace Forces involved a much smaller aviation group.


An interesting fact: the F-117A stealth aircraft were used for the first time in Operation Desert Storm in Iraq. With a strength of only 2,5% of the total number of aircraft deployed in the Persian Gulf zone, the F-117A hit about 40% of all strategic targets attacked by the MNF using laser-guided bombs. The Russian Aerospace Forces also has several Su-57 stealth aircraft, which, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, successfully solve their tasks, but many strategic goals in Ukraine remained undestroyed during the year of hostilities!

The air forces of NATO countries use various means and systems to cover and support combat aircraft in strike missions. I will only point out those systems that NATO has, but not in the Russian Aerospace Forces:

1. MALD simulator missiles are designed to complicate the operation of ground and air AWACS and RER systems to such an extent that the computing facilities of SAM surveillance radars and airborne fighter radars will be overloaded due to the huge number of airborne aviation simulators.

In the NVO Aerospace Forces, they tried to use the Enix E-95 air target to provoke the air defense of Ukraine and the R-37 long-range explosive missiles to reload the air defense of Kyiv. That is, the command of the Aerospace Forces has an understanding of the need to use decoys, but there are no simulator missiles themselves!

2. The EA-18 Growler electronic warfare aircraft is designed for fire destruction and electronic suppression of ground and ship radars, as well as radio communication networks and radio control lines of enemy air defense systems when it is located mainly in combat formations.

There was a similar aircraft in the USSR, this is the Su-24MP, after the collapse of the USSR they remained in Ukraine. In Russia, they were not puzzled by the creation of such an aircraft. Today it is fashionable to look at what is there in China, which is trying to copy everything useful for itself. In China, a similar aircraft was created, this is the Shenyang J-16D.

3. Long-range air-to-surface surveillance aircraft E-8 Joint STARS (Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System) - designed to recognize and classify a target and its route in all weather conditions. The E-8 radar covers an area of ​​about 50,000 km² (19,305 mile²) and is capable of continuously tracking 600 targets at a distance of up to 250 km (152 miles). All moving objects of sufficient mass and density, such as cars, are detected by the radar, and stationary objects can also be imaged. The radar and computer subsystems on the E-8C can process and display detailed information from the battlefield, and the E-8C provides communications/data, command and control.

There is no such aircraft in Russia, but work is underway on the Ka-31SV helicopter (Gorkovchanin ROC), designed to conduct round-the-clock radar reconnaissance in simple and difficult weather conditions of radar-contrast moving and stationary ground objects.


4. Satellite-guided jet-powered UAVs, RQ-170 Sentine, RQ-4 Global Hawk, Taranis. These UAVs allow you to carry out reconnaissance and, possibly, strike missions without danger to pilots, at a great distance from your forces in the so-called restricted areas, in which the risks of losing aircraft are high. In Russia, the S-70 Okhotnik UAV is being developed with similar capabilities.

5. Gliding high-precision JDAM bombs make it possible to drop bombs outside the enemy air defense coverage area and hit targets at ranges up to 70 km. VKS aircraft, not having such bombs, can hit targets with less powerful Kh-38 missiles at a distance of up to 40 km.

The presence in the arsenal of the Aerospace Forces of Kh-31P anti-radar missiles and Kh-59 tactical missiles, guided bombs (KAB), as well as the Tu-214R electronic intelligence aircraft and Il-22PP "Chopper" electronic warfare aircraft, unfortunately, was not enough to avoid sensitive losses and gain air supremacy in Ukraine.

Unlike the NATO Air Force, which mainly operates light aircraft: F-16, Eurofighter, Rafal, with a maximum take-off weight of 21-24 tons, the main strike aircraft of the Aerospace Forces are heavy two-seat Su-30 and Su-34 fighter-bombers, with a maximum take-off weight of 34-45 tons.


The avionics of Russian aircraft makes it possible to use guided high-precision munitions and hit targets with them from medium altitudes and at a distance of 250 km. Our planes are shot down in Ukraine mainly when trying to hit targets with conventional FABs, from low altitudes, because FABs and NURS are the main ammunition in the VKS arsenal.

Everything written above suggests that the Russian Aerospace Forces have an insufficient number of strike aircraft and are not balanced. Since aircraft that are advanced in their capabilities are forced to use the simplest means of destruction, completely leveling the capabilities of the avionics of these aircraft, and these factors are exacerbated by insufficient saturation of the airborne forces with aircraft cover and support systems in strike missions!

I will express my amateurish opinion: in my opinion, the VKS needs a less sophisticated than the Su-34, and a much cheaper strike aircraft. Such an aircraft could well be the MiG-27, keep the VKS in combat strength. Within the framework of the SVO, the modification of the MiG-27 with maximum unification with the Su-34 in terms of engine and avionics, with the replacement of the gun with the GSh-30-2, would be a more suitable platform for using FAB and NURS in strike missions deep in Ukraine.

Defense


Considering that there is no absolute weapon! Despite the fact that the enemy occasionally manages to deliver strikes, VKS fighters and ground air defense forces are a fairly reliable shield against air threats.


Army air defense has learned to deal with long-range MLRS missiles and small-sized UAVs.

Long-range air defense systems set records for the range of destruction of enemy aircraft. Fighters in cooperation with AWACS A-50 aircraft leave few chances for the “Reinforce the Forces of Ukraine” to effectively prove themselves.

In principle, today the Russian air defense forces can still be considered the strongest on the planet.

UAV


There is an expression: "Generals are preparing for the wars of the past." And this saying perfectly describes the situation with UAVs in the Russian army.

In 2021, according to Vladimir Putin, more than 2000 UAVs were in service with the Russian army. But with the beginning of the NMD, it suddenly turned out that the 2nd army of the world was inferior in saturation to the UAVs of the 22nd army!

The underestimation of the importance of small UAVs for infantry units and artillery has led not only to a shortage of quadrocopters in the troops, but also to the absence of highly effective means of combating them in the RA.

Today there are stubborn battles near Artyomovsk (Bakhmut). Russian troops were able to bypass the city from the flanks, but so far it has not been possible to take it at least into an operational encirclement. It takes about 10 km to close the ring. Through this ten-kilometer segment, the Armed Forces of Ukraine replenish and supply the garrison, rotate forces.


NATO armies would hang over this area strike UAVs, such as the Bayraktar TB2 or MQ-9 Reaper, capable of both attacking any targets on their own and issuing artillery or aviation control centers, and thereby would carry out the operational encirclement of the Artyomovsk garrison.

In Russia, the Orion strike UAV is formally available, but in fact there are practically none in the troops! But Russian kamikaze UAVs have become the hallmark of the NWO. "Lancet" as an effective means of combating Western self-propelled guns and other equipment, and "Geran-2" has become a nightmare for the rear areas of Ukraine.

Thanks to the active work of volunteers and the Russian Ministry of Defense, many shortcomings in the provision of UAVs of the Republic of Armenia were eliminated. But the situation is still far from perfect, and President Vladimir Putin also drew attention to this. In Russia, work has begun on a state program for the development and production of UAVs. Of course, this should have been done yesterday, but as they say, better late than never!

Artillery


The NVO confirmed the pre-war assumption that the basis of the firepower of the RA is artillery. Based on the importance for the combat capability of the army, this type of troops should have had a priority development.


But the fighting in Ukraine showed that the artillery in the Republic of Armenia is completely composed of the Soviet heritage! The troops do not have a single instance of modern development. Only modernized Soviet models are modern: these are the Msta-SM2 self-propelled guns of the 152-mm caliber, the Malka self-propelled guns of the 203-mm caliber and the Tornado MLRS - the modernization of the Grad MLRS (Tornado-G) and Smerch (Tornado -WITH).

As a result, Russian cannon artillery is inferior in range and accuracy to the latest generation of Western self-propelled guns entering service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, such as the Caesar self-propelled guns (France), PzH 2000 (Germany) and the expected Archer self-propelled guns (Sweden).

In addition, Western self-propelled guns use a wider range of ammunition, including high-explosive fragmentation shells, shells with a radio fuse for air blasting, and long-range high-precision shells with GPS guidance "Excalibur".

Despite the identified shortcomings, due to the huge numerical superiority in the number of barrels, Russian artillery still dominates the battlefield. The upgraded systems meet modern requirements in terms of the quality of control and the speed of hitting targets. In the arsenal of the RA there are also projectiles corrected by a laser beam, which, with external illumination, allow hitting even moving targets from the first shot.


For the Tornado-S MLRS, new missiles 9M549 have been developed - with a fragmentation warhead and 9M544 - with a cumulative fragmentation. These ammunition have: satellite navigation; allow the introduction of individual PP; homing heads. This allows Tornado-S to be as efficient as the HIMARS MLRS promoted in Ukraine. True, to date, high-precision guided RS GMLRS are standard for rocket systems.

HIMARS in Ukraine, but the massive use of their counterparts in Tornado-S is not reported.

In general, thanks to Soviet reserves and the efforts of the military-industrial complex, showing the ability to maintain the combat effectiveness of numerous artillery, the RA still retains a leading position in firepower on the battlefield. And thanks to the modernization and increased efforts to produce advanced ammunition for artillery, it also has the potential to increase the capabilities of artillery even on the basis of existing artillery systems!

Armored vehicles



What Western tanks and infantry fighting vehicles are capable of in a full-scale war, according to the announcements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, we will find out this spring. And with regards to Russian armored vehicles, we can draw some conclusions from the experience gained.

The basis of the material part of the armored forces is the rich legacy left by the USSR in the form of incredible stocks of weapons, including armored vehicles! The Russian Defense Ministry is actively using the legacy, maintaining the relevance of existing armored vehicles through its modernization.

The modernization of light armored vehicles is primarily aimed at increasing firepower, by almost completely equipping all armored vehicles with a 30-mm cannon, as an example of the BTR-82. The modernization of Soviet tanks is being carried out in the direction of increasing survivability and increasing the capabilities of the SLA.

For current purposes on the battlefield, the firepower of the armament of tanks and light armored vehicles is sufficient.

The armor of Russian tanks often takes a hit, including from 3rd generation ATGMs, but does not guarantee 100% protection. Therefore, the use of additional protective equipment for armored vehicles is an urgent need.

In the SVO, an extremely important criterion for adequate armor protection for light armored vehicles has become resistance to being hit by fragments of heavy artillery shells, caliber 152-155 mm. Unfortunately, only the armor of the BMP-3 more or less protects against fragments of large-caliber shells, the BMP-2 and BTR-82 have insufficient protection against artillery fragments. Russian light armored vehicles do not have any protection against ATGMs or RPGs.


It is assumed that the heavier and, accordingly, better protected Western BMP "Bradley" and "Marder" will better endure artillery fire. BMP "Bradley" can be equipped with dynamic protection that can withstand RPG grenades. The anti-mine resistance of Western vehicles is also supposedly better, and no anti-mine structures are provided in Soviet light armored vehicles!

The T-90M tanks participating in the SVO are equipped with a Visibility Reduction System (KSSZ) called the Cape. It reduces the likelihood of a tank being hit by NLAW and Saint Javelin systems by reducing the visibility of the tank in the infrared range, which makes it difficult to aim at it using thermal imaging sighting systems.

In Syria, also on T-90 tanks, the Shtora KOEP was used, which interferes with laser-guided combat systems by firing aerosol grenades and using special searchlights that disorient the guided projectile, taking it away. In Ukraine, cars equipped with Shtora were not seen.

Both complexes help to reduce the likelihood of hitting an armored vehicle and complement each other. If their effectiveness is confirmed by practice, then they should be mandatory equipment for all armored vehicles operating on the front line!

Thanks to the rich heritage and the work set for the mass modernization of Soviet armored vehicles, as well as the mass production of new armored vehicles, in particular the T-90M, the Republic of Armenia has a large fleet of armored vehicles. Soviet technology does not remain relevant in everything, but is still quite combat-ready. Therefore, the mechanized units of the RA are not inferior in their capabilities to the units of the NATO armies.

Hack and predictor Aviator


Despite all the shortcomings of the RA revealed during the NMD and given that not everything is going smoothly in the NATO armies, in general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and the NATO armies. NATO's advantage in strike UAVs is leveled by the power of Russian air defense, and due to the advantage in firing range of Western self-propelled guns, the RA solves the tasks of counter-battery combat with the help of Lancets.

On many of today's problems of the Republic of Armenia in Russia, there are already groundwork, allowing, with due efforts, to close the problematic issues in the near future. CBO today acts as a catalyst that accelerates the necessary work.

Despite the existing criticism of the Russian Ministry of Defense in general and Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu in particular, in my opinion, it was under him that the Russian army had an understanding of what kind of weapons it needed!

The troops began to be massively saturated with new and modernized BTR-82, T-72B3 and T-90 tanks, Tiger and Typhoon armored vehicles, Pantsir air defense system, Su aircraft, etc.

The current leadership of the Ministry of Defense has shown that it is able to organize systematic work to solve a specific problem. This inspires hope that today's tasks of providing the troops with the equipment and weapons necessary for victory will be solved!
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  1. -35
    27 February 2023 04: 14
    After reading the title, I expected a more alarmist article. But no. In my opinion, quite an adequate analysis of the situation. Thanks to the author, I support.
    1. +38
      27 February 2023 04: 58
      Quote: voice of reason
      In my opinion, quite an adequate analysis of the situation.

      other than this, in my opinion:
      The current leadership of the Ministry of Defense has shown that it is able to organize systematic work to solve a specific problem.
      1. +54
        27 February 2023 07: 48
        Yes, not only in your opinion. I join - our leadership is that, not very that ... Vanka infantryman takes out, as usual.
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        3. +12
          28 February 2023 14: 12
          The state of the armed forces reflects the general state in the country in the scientific and design sphere and production. Disgrace. All the loot went to fat cats and officials. There was no money for education, support of the engineering corps, development of industry, technology. And as it turns out, it won't. Personal income tax is in the air, the oligarchs cannot beg - they huddle, "swallowing dust." All that remains is to brandish the nuclear club and rely on the heroism of the soldiers.
          1. +7
            28 February 2023 19: 55
            I absolutely agree, as a soldier-front-line soldier. Compared to the 2nd Chechen leadership level, the quality of the officer corps has collapsed below the plinth, and the latest super-mega-gear technology exists only in Prokopenka's commercials. And this is the result of the sabotage rule not by anyone, but personally by Vova and his thief-accomplice Seryozha Kuzhugetych. And he pulls out the war on himself and on the AK-74 machine gun, like us - Bars. Wagner and others like us. Full hospital. Cherry, look for a visit to the light!
      2. +16
        27 February 2023 08: 10
        and in Soviet light armored vehicles no anti-mine structures are provided

        We had to build our own then. And not the Soviet "galoshes-stealth" to be massively used.
        Despite all the shortcomings of the RA revealed during the NMD and given that not everything is going smoothly in the NATO armies, in general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and the NATO armies.

        Well, then you have to go to the Channel.
        1. +1
          28 February 2023 17: 47
          No one set the task of making crap out of the BMP-2 for 17 Jewish lyams. There would be a task and such a price "marder" would be chased for beer. When they received the BMP-2, the T-72 tank cost 800 thousand greens.
        2. 0
          28 February 2023 17: 47
          No one set the task of making crap out of the BMP-2 for 17 Jewish lyams. There would be a task and such a price "marder" would be chased for beer. When they received the BMP-2, the T-72 tank cost 800 thousand greens.
    2. +34
      27 February 2023 09: 56
      An unambiguous conclusion can be drawn from the article.
      All is well beautiful Marquise. There are shortcomings , but we are struggling with them .

      To be honest, I was expecting a different course of action.
      But what is, is.
      1. +8
        27 February 2023 19: 57
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        But what is, is.

        Hollywood USA and RF works wassat In fact, we see everything with our own eyes. Propaganda works only for those who are not smart, but everything is clear to the rest, and no nightingales will change anything here. hi
    3. +12
      27 February 2023 19: 05
      Quote: voice of reason
      in general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and NATO armies

      The author is too optimistic about the world. NATO has not yet entered the war. An article from the series "Do not be afraid, with God's help we will manage somehow." The best air defense in the world also showed its effectiveness when the strategic nuclear forces base airfield was attacked. And these were ancient Soviet drones.
      1. -2
        27 February 2023 22: 07
        If NATO enters the war, it will be completely different. With other means of destruction. In this scenario, Ukraine will be defeated within a few hours. The main thing is to have the Commander-in-Chief, steel eggs. Time will show. 27-28 years are extreme.
        1. +5
          28 February 2023 15: 50
          The commander-in-chief has no eggs. Once upon a time, they dried up ... And this vividly showed the beginning of their own, its course, methods and conduct. And it was also clearly shown by foreign policy and domestic. So it's up to you to rely on yourself.
      2. 0
        28 February 2023 10: 26
        Quote: Pilat2009
        Quote: voice of reason
        in general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and NATO armies

        The author is too optimistic about the world. NATO has not yet entered the war. An article from the series "Do not be afraid, with God's help we will manage somehow." The best air defense in the world also showed its effectiveness when the strategic nuclear forces base airfield was attacked. And these were ancient Soviet drones.

        Didn't really join. They fight with the hands of Ukrainians and mercenaries. Intelligence, weapons are almost unlimited.

        Many people laugh, they say the 2nd army of the world cannot cope with Ukraine, only the 1st army of the world with its sixes could not do anything in Afghanistan and did not take a single city by storm.
        There are many problems, this is a problem with the number and training of drugs, it turned out that without mobilization our troops are not taken out (and mobilization is probably not the last), equipping the mobilized also turned out to be a problem.
      3. -1
        28 February 2023 22: 55
        NATO will enter the war and the answer will be different.
    4. +4
      27 February 2023 21: 13
      I remembered the "Days of the Turbins": ",,, and the sovereign-emperor came out from behind the curtain. ... came out and shed a tear .." After reading the article presented by the author, I want to shed tears of emotion
      The current leadership of the Ministry of Defense has shown that it is able to organize systematic work to solve a specific problem.

      It is clear that we will overcome everything and defeat everyone, but the question is: at what cost?
  2. -12
    27 February 2023 04: 26
    Gliding high-precision JDAM bombs make it possible to drop bombs outside the enemy air defense coverage area and hit targets at ranges up to 70 km. Aerospace Forces aircraft without such bombs

    Ugh, you ...
    For four months now, bombers, fighters and long-range aircraft have been operating with guided weapons from distances inaccessible to enemy air defense. Only aviation of "musicians" goes purely for classic bombing with "uncontrolled cast iron"


    Below - folding wings.
    1. +7
      27 February 2023 21: 21
      Below - folding wings.

      To date, this is the only image of a domestic planning bomb used in NWO conditions.

      The rough appearance of the product confirms that this is a handicraft alteration
      1. +4
        27 February 2023 23: 14
        Quote: Santa Fe
        To date, this is the only image of a domestic planning bomb used in NWO conditions.

        Brekhna

        K029B-E, adjustable gliding bomb. The author wrote about kits that turn ordinary ones into planning ones, that we don’t have them. We have them - there is, I brought them.
        There is nothing to argue, the minusers panicked
        1. +2
          28 February 2023 08: 10
          Nothing to object

          This is what you decided because you are afraid of the answer and try to quickly merge
          K029B-E, adjustable gliding bomb.

          Adjustable, but not planning - what her appearance directly says

          The developer of the KTRV himself defines it as a "bomb with an extended release range."

          When dropped from a height of 15 km, it is possible to hit a target at a distance of 40-50 km. In the conditions of modern air defense, bombing in this way is suicide

          Gliding bombs look and work differently. For comparison, SDB - when dropped from a height of 10 km, it has a flight range of 100+ km
          For four months now, bombers, fighters and long-range aircraft have been operating with guided weapons from distances inaccessible to enemy air defense

          Everyone has access to various sources and everyone understands what reality looks like
          1. -2
            28 February 2023 22: 22
            Quote: Santa Fe
            Adjustable, but not planning - what her appearance directly says

            Another fake, stupid as usual:
            The drill is a Russian glide bomb developed by NPO Bazalt. Drel is a gliding aerial bomb designed to destroy tanks, ground-based radars and air defense systems.
            - supervised by the State Department Pedivikia.
            Gliding bombs look and work differently.
            ...with molecules of shitocracy and sidelocks:
            https://topwar.ru/18635-ukus-gadyuki-aviabomba-dlya-vooruzheniya-amerikanskih-bespilotnikov-i-obespecheniya-podrazdeleniy-mp-ssha.html
            Planning, yeah ... At 1 km, but - planning ... Because it's not Russian!
            The smart ones from Azrailovka left a long time ago. Only these are left...
            If only he would croak about JDAM, which seems to be planning, for the same 30 km ... Although what is there, an overdose of this drug knocked out a fighter
            1. +3
              1 March 2023 04: 18
              If only I would croak about JDAM, which seems to be planning

              JDAM, like Drill, is not planning

              All these are adjustable bombs that require the carrier to enter the air defense zone

              The solution is a gliding SDB, folding wings, flight range up to 100 km

              The Aerospace Forces do not have such ammunition
              1. 0
                1 March 2023 22: 43
                JDAM is just planning - this is a kit with folding wings. The drill is generally a cassette.
                1. +2
                  2 March 2023 01: 31
                  JDAM is just planning - this is a kit with folding wings.

                  Wings are different wings. They are not for flying but for control. 15 miles range, less than 30 km, that says it all
                  1. 0
                    3 March 2023 23: 36
                    No, they are rigidly fixed, google it. For adjustment, the tail unit is used. These are planning bombs. And corrective ones have only tail wings (KAB).
  3. -25
    27 February 2023 05: 42
    Stop comparing the number of planes! The Americans bombed everything and everyone! Or should we carpet?
    1. +33
      27 February 2023 08: 56
      Quote: Aristarkh Pasechnik
      Stop comparing the number of planes! The Americans bombed everything and everyone! Or should we carpet?

      If it is necessary to save the lives of our soldiers, then why not.
    2. +24
      27 February 2023 09: 58
      Quote: Aristarkh Pasechnik
      Stop comparing the number of planes! The Americans bombed everything and everyone! Or should we carpet?

      Stop talking about the carpet bombing of the Americans. Not even funny anymore. The last time it was in Vietnam was in my opinion. Now they primarily use high-precision, there are "carpets" unnecessarily.
      1. -1
        27 February 2023 16: 55
        When you find out the losses of US aviation in Vietnam, you go nuts. It's just that such losses do not even fit in my head.
        1. +10
          27 February 2023 18: 28
          Quote: mmaxx
          It's just that such losses do not even fit in my head.

          The Americans could and wanted to repeat like their grandfathers. By WWII standards, the losses are moderate.

          But gradually it dawned on the Americans that taking an example from their grandfathers in terms of losses is not very smart. So after Vietnam, they began to figure out how aviation should actually fight. Got it right, I can't help but admit it.
      2. -6
        28 February 2023 10: 57
        And Belgrade? And Baghdad? Isn't it carpet? When they hit specifically on the POPULATION - how is it? Or should we become like the Nazis and your beloved Yankees? negative Not everything is decided by grandmas and their presence, the soul also means something! hi
        1. +6
          28 February 2023 12: 36
          According to the Serbian authorities, during the entire period of NATO airstrikes, 2.5 thousand civilians were killed, this is certainly a large figure, but it does not at all draw on carpet bombing.
  4. +17
    27 February 2023 05: 47
    Russia in the world ranking of powers-owners of missile weapons in second place after the United States.

    "- In our kitchen in Dilijan you turn on the water - it takes the second place in the world!
    - And the first one in Yerevan, right?
    - No, in San Francisco "(c)
  5. +22
    27 February 2023 05: 47
    How about "we haven't started yet"!?
    1. +28
      27 February 2023 07: 52
      Indeed, it’s time to start already. We can’t drive them away from Donetsk for a year, our border regions are being shelled - it’s time to start already, comrade chiefs.
  6. +12
    27 February 2023 05: 55
    The reasons for this result will someday be explained by experts, to whom I do not belong.
    If you are not a specialist, from the word at all, and do not understand the causes and consequences, then why do you even take up such topics ??? Are you hype?
  7. +2
    27 February 2023 06: 09
    I doubt that the author is from Russia. We do not say "in" Ukraine. Therefore, his article does not make any sense.
    1. +3
      27 February 2023 08: 02
      It also cut. Previously, I didn’t even pay any attention, but now it has become like a “friend or foe” identifier .. Such are the times these days.
    2. +14
      27 February 2023 20: 02
      Quote: My name
      I doubt that the author is from Russia. We do not say "in" Ukraine. Therefore, his article does not make any sense.
      This is how you define the presence of meaning in the text? At the level of the 1st signaling system: according to the stimulus-response scheme, so to speak. Yo-my... It's also impossible. The author may be from Kherson, Zaporozhye, etc. Content needs to be discussed.
  8. -16
    27 February 2023 06: 43
    My humble view:
    1. Our air defense is, yes, the best in the world. Systems are constantly being worked on, and no one can overtake.
    2. Missile weapons. I would not say that the US is better. We are on a par, in some ways we are ahead, as in the case of hypersonic weapons, in some ways we are inferior: precision-guided munitions for MLRS.
    3. Air force. Comparison of the NWO with the US and NATO attack on Yugoslavia does not look correct. Different conditions for conducting operations, different air defense capabilities. And different methods. The Americans did not take into account the losses among the civilian population, so they used massive raids and carpet bombing. We are protecting the civilian population in the territories occupied by Ukraine. Otherwise, I think it would not be difficult for our Air Force to arrange hell for the enemy. What's difficult? A massive strike by UAVs and missile launchers, opening up air defenses in a certain sector of the front, the second wave of missiles hits the identified targets, the third one finishes off those that were not previously detected. Aviation works immediately after that.
    As a result, this area will be the lunar surface. But ... In general, I am sure that aviation is not fully involved because of the civilian population, and also because this is our territory.
    4. Artillery. Artistic systems are a Soviet legacy. But they successfully cope with the tasks. The most important thing here is not even sophisticated high-precision weapons or ammunition, but the speed of information transfer. The earlier the gunners receive the coordinates, the faster the shot will be fired, and the greater the chance of destroying the enemy.
    5. On tanks - I agree. I can't judge by light armored vehicles.
    Conclusions are being made by our MO, and the shortcomings, I am sure, are being eliminated. I have no doubt that our army is being rebuilt with experience in mind.
    1. +27
      27 February 2023 09: 03
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Air force

      Unfortunately, in the Air Force we have a very, if not fatal, lag. There are no EW aircraft as a class, namely they go in the first wave, suppressing enemy air defense, the second wave takes out air defense and so they work until they can fly freely, but then the time comes for "holy" cast iron. So, I didn’t see our systematic work of the Air Force at all, some kind of episodic bucking without any long-term perspective, one attack without suppressing air defense. Unfortunately, the SVO showed our complete backwardness at the level of the concept of building the Armed Forces and, accordingly, the level of command. So far, I have not seen any clear steps to correct the situation. There are convulsive jerks and then a lull, that's not how they work.
    2. +11
      27 February 2023 11: 12
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Our air defense - yes, the best in the world

      The CBO showed that at the technical level it is still the end of the 80s, but at the organizational level it is just a hole. There is no national level air defense system.
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Rocket weapons.

      A complete nightmare. The funds that the Americans are now draining from the division to the brigade, to the RF Armed Forces in the RGC. with the appropriate amount.
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Air Force

      They are not.
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      The Americans did not reckon with the losses among the civilian population

      Here to fill up.
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      The Air Force would not have been difficult to arrange hell for the enemy. What's difficult?

      Few suicides. End quickly.
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      Artistic systems are a Soviet legacy. But they successfully cope with the tasks.

      So far, they are given tasks in the style of the Soviet heritage. Qualitatively, in terms of control, art was inferior to Ukrainian even before the advent of 155mm.
      Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
      I have no doubt that our army is being rebuilt with experience in mind.

      )))
      1. +6
        27 February 2023 20: 41
        They are not.

        You also ignored the Navy ... especially the Black Sea Fleet ...
        1. 0
          27 February 2023 23: 51
          Quote from tsvetahaki
          You still ignored the Navy

          I responded to specific points.

          The Black Sea Fleet and the KBF should not exist, they talked about this back in Soviet times. So there is nothing to comment on.
    3. +8
      27 February 2023 16: 13
      The Americans did not take into account the losses among the civilian population,

      US aviation primarily works on fortifications and supply columns, this is the main function. VKS cannot provide this. For example, near Donetsk there are powerful fortifications, but we do not have aviation for these purposes.

      In our case, the Armed Forces of Ukraine freely transfer reserves and supplies near the front, which they constantly write about, this is nonsense, the free movement of columns. So they had to be destroyed by aircraft.
    4. +7
      27 February 2023 21: 49
      Wow, how beautiful, especially in aviation. Once! Opened, two destroyed, three .. finished off and .... Lunar landscape
      And you will bomb with cast iron from what height! 6-7 thousand? The accuracy will be "excellent" and the same effect.
      There are 5-10 MANPADS per kilometer of the front. If everything were so simple, they would have started this way long ago, but alas ...... Apparently the risk of losing aircraft and pilots is very high, all the more so, as I understand it, there are not so many working machines as in books and reports
  9. +22
    27 February 2023 06: 48
    . Vladimir Putin did not train the army to the blitzkrieg in Poland

    And I didn’t prepare for the blitzkrieg in Ukraine (I haven’t started yet). Apparently he was seriously preparing for a war of attrition! Decided to exhaust the NATO bloc in Ukraine! It's easier that way, right?
    1. +7
      27 February 2023 07: 53
      maybe he cooked, only everything is like in a joke
      "He will eat something, but who will give him ?!"
      1. +9
        27 February 2023 09: 04
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        maybe he cooked, only everything is like in a joke

        But it could have turned out in terms of a blitzkrieg! If only I were really prepared.
    2. +40
      27 February 2023 07: 57
      He prepared for parades. Together with a friend. , all their ..
      1. +18
        27 February 2023 09: 07
        Quote: not the one
        Prepare for parades.

        It's even an indisputable fact! Of course, he was better prepared for them.
      2. +10
        27 February 2023 11: 23
        there are only partners around, all their own ..
        And they don’t leave their own, their own smile
    3. +3
      27 February 2023 08: 48
      Decided to exhaust the NATO bloc in Ukraine!
      "Four black, grimy little imps drew a drawing in red ink" (c).
  10. +10
    27 February 2023 07: 01
    What kind of modernization of "Malka" are we talking about? Calibers 203 mm are no longer produced at all since 1991.
    Or are the old ones redone? I wonder how? There are no more trophy machines left from Hitler ......
    1. 0
      28 February 2023 06: 16
      And what are the problems sharpening 8 "shells?
      There are no problems, as in principle, and a normal turner will make gun barrels and there is nothing possible on DIPs (believe the barrel is not the most difficult job) The equipment bases work so that 8 "will be.
  11. +18
    27 February 2023 07: 26
    In principle, today the Russian air defense forces can still be considered the strongest on the planet.

    Well, well .. Author, where did you draw such conclusions from? Engels,........, and now also an airfield near Minsk, and this is the strongest air defense on the planet?
    1. +18
      27 February 2023 07: 57
      That you are such a cracker the right word, still remind the author that despite the solution of all problems by our MO, under the guidance of the wise S.K. Shoigu, the front line has practically not changed for the past six months.
      The main thing is how everything is beautiful and okay in the article lol
      1. +6
        27 February 2023 17: 19
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        our MO, under the guidance of the wise S.K. Shoigu, the front line has practically not changed for the past six months.

        well, it doesn’t change .... it changes !!! shows negative growth!!!*
        according to lostarmor, the number of KM2 controlled by the RF Armed Forces is declining ....
    2. +14
      27 February 2023 07: 59
      Well, yes .. Somehow these cases do not give much cause for pride ..
  12. +28
    27 February 2023 08: 24
    1. In Russia, work has begun on the state program for the development and production of UAVs. Of course, this should have been done yesterday, but as they say, better late than never!
    The author clearly does not understand the meaning of the word "late"! One situation, when "better late than never!" ... and another, when "it's too late to drink Borjomi if the liver falls off!"... Is there a difference?
    2. Despite the existing criticism of the Russian Ministry of Defense in general and Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu in particular, in my opinion, it was under him that the Russian army had an understanding of what kind of weapons it needed!
    What the

    Not thanks to Shoigu (or Putin ...) ... but "thanks to" the "deeply penetrating peck of a fried rooster into bodily places below the waist" of these and other persons! Shoigu understood, but the army didn’t understand without Shoigu!? The whole "company" is out of step, and only the "company" is in step! Or maybe vice versa? The army understood, but different "shoigu" in the "assortment" were put on this "understanding" "device"!
    3. The most "vomit" lies in the fact that now there is no faith ... in the "wisdom" of the country's leadership, the military talents of the generals, the foresight of the future military construction! Well, the leadership (including the military) realized the importance of UAVs in modern wars! And then what? In 5 years, another "garbage unknown to metal" will appear ... it will make a splash in military affairs ... the whole "military world" will deal with this "garbage" ... except for Russia! Shoigu" gained "understanding"? And even now ... was "4M0shnoct" only in the UAV? And what about high-precision weapons (WTO) of 3,4 generations? Lack of remote sensing, KAZs on a significant part of armored vehicles! The imbalance of the Aerospace Forces and the Navy! And is that all? Will the enerals of the Russian Federation again prepare for the "wars of the past"? But will Russia be given time for at least some preparation?
    1. +24
      27 February 2023 09: 09
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Despite the existing criticism of the Russian Ministry of Defense in general and Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu in particular, in my opinion, it was under him that the Russian army had an understanding of what kind of weapons it needed!

      Laughed (through tears). Under him, only an understanding of the type of dress uniform and the meaning of PR was formed. But practice has shown that this is for domestic consumption, and the adversary did not watch commercials, did not participate in TV and did not know that we were the strongest. In my opinion, the worst MO of all time, considering how much money was allocated and what kind of exit.
      1. +1
        27 February 2023 20: 50
        Despite the existing criticism of the Russian Defense Ministry in general and Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu in particular,

        Laughed (through tears).

        For curtseys towards censorship, it would be good for the authors to highlight them in a different font - so as not to be confused with the author's opinion and not laughed at.
      2. 0
        28 February 2023 06: 21
        But I don’t like the front uniform at all, they suspect that they torn and spoiled a little from the uniform of 1945.
        But our Minister of Defense saw a tank when he studied at the Polytechnic University of Krasnoyarsk (there are still tanks there and lieutenants are being trained there), and many enemy defense ministers had never even passed the army before.
    2. +3
      27 February 2023 20: 47
      In Russia, work began on the state program for the development and production

      That's it, honey on the big heart of a bureaucrat! Start first, develop later, then adopt amendments, revise for consideration, then adapt for 2027(?) opportunities, vote...
      Ah, how it warms the heart!
      And then they can move on to fulfillment, like the famous instructions of the president!
      Expanse...
  13. +6
    27 February 2023 08: 43
    The fighting in Ukraine showed that Vladimir Putin was not preparing the army for a blitzkrieg in Poland, and even more so for the march of a tank avalanche to the English Channel!
    “There, it’s like Mikhalych!” (c) So it turns out, I didn’t prepare for the blitzkrieg in Ukraine either. Sketched, red lines.
  14. -25
    27 February 2023 08: 45
    The Russian army against the backdrop of the military power of NATO

    The military "option" of NATO against the Papuans is yes, a powerful organization, only in Vietnam, Korea, Syria, Afghanistan ... and just where did she not change her diapers?
    1. +17
      27 February 2023 09: 14
      Quote: Boris55
      The military "option" of NATO against the Papuans is yes, a powerful organization, only in Vietnam, Korea, Syria, Afghanistan ... and just where did she not change her diapers?

      In Vietnam and Korea, they were opposed by the USSR, which was at least on par. Afghan is an amazingly correct move against the backdrop of knowledge about the upcoming NWO. They closed their pain point, which we could put pressure on and focused all their efforts on the war with us, and the fate of the Sheriff's Indians is not ... that is. In Syria, they took the most basic oil-bearing regions with a minimum of population, and they hung the entire main hemorrhoids for the maintenance of the destroyed country on others, and where is their loss?
  15. +8
    27 February 2023 09: 00
    Well, I don’t know, I don’t know, in my opinion, a bare comparison of performance characteristics and that’s all, I don’t think, to put it mildly, controversial points like this one “Despite the existing criticism of the Russian Ministry of Defense in general and Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu in particular, on in my opinion, it was under him that the Russian army had an understanding of what kind of weapons it needed! ”, When understanding appeared only when a rooster fried in the fifth point pecked and then I’m not sure what really appeared.
  16. +20
    27 February 2023 10: 21
    Detail.
    However, NWO has been going on for a year.
    And we have been taking Bakhmut since the summer

    But the media themselves said that the army of Ukraine is nonsense. NATO is rusty and incapacitated. Delivers to Ukraine pieced Soviet junk, and pieced junk from NATO.
    It turns out that this piece of junk cannot be ground for a year by modern technology with paradolv that has no analogues in the world.
    1. +2
      27 February 2023 19: 16
      Quote: Max1995
      NATO is rusty and incapacitated

      Well, it was in decline. They also cut defense spending. Now they will allocate more. The author apparently does not understand that one country, in principle, cannot produce weapons and maintain an army of more than 20 countries
    2. 0
      27 February 2023 21: 10
      Ukraine is waging a war for the survival of the nation, so the army fights with great motivation, and the rear helps the army with all its might (volunteers, foundations, businessmen). And the West (not only NATO) supports the panties of the economy, closing the budget deficit in various ways, and a coalition of 50 states supplies weapons and ammunition, and obviously not enough in quantity to defeat the Russian army.
      Without the help of the West, the Armed Forces of Ukraine would have lost. But even without the desire to win, weapons alone mean nothing.
      Why was the ability of the rear to quickly connect to the supply of the Armed Forces of Ukraine not taken into account when planning the NMD? Why was the experience of 2014-2015 not realized? After all, even then it became clear that the Alzheimer's and lethargic Armed Forces of Ukraine, which they were under Yanukovych, grow fangs very quickly at the expense of volunteers.
    3. -2
      27 February 2023 23: 38
      The funny thing is that the nasty, vile and vile Strelkov with a handful of ragamuffins kept Slavyansk with 100 thousand people for two months. After that, he meanly passed without waiting for some winds there. And the heroic Wagner with artillery and aircraft for half a year cannot take the smaller Artyomovsk by 30%. For that, already in a month I took ten times less than Slavyansk Soledar. For the successes of the RF Ministry of Defense, one can generally keep silent. And this is the second army in the world preparing for war with NATO.
  17. +20
    27 February 2023 10: 37
    The army is completely dependent on the country's economy, so if you compare the Russian army with the NATO army, then you need to start by comparing the economies of Russia and the countries that are members of the NATO bloc and finish there.
  18. +13
    27 February 2023 11: 08
    The fighting in Ukraine showed that Vladimir Putin was not preparing the army for a blitzkrieg in Poland, and even more so for the march of a tank avalanche to the English Channel!

    Judging by the events in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions, they were not prepared for defense either.
    What were they preparing for?
    For biathlon and parades, it seems.
    1. 0
      28 February 2023 06: 25
      If you dive into the history of the guard, forgive the PROTECTION of monarchs from this and you should proceed.
      It was in the USSR that the title of guards was given for military merit.
  19. +2
    27 February 2023 11: 33
    Does the Russian army look pale against the background of the military power of NATO?


    Against the backdrop of NATO's demonstration of power in Afghanistan?
    1. +14
      27 February 2023 12: 06
      You can compare how quickly the Americans took control of the capital of Afghanistan, how they quickly suppressed their air defense (and they had it), and this despite the fact that the United States as a country is at a great distance from Afghanistan.
      1. +8
        27 February 2023 16: 33
        You can compare how quickly the Americans took control of the capital of Afghanistan

        The army is not cheap for the states, and therefore they require a specific result from it, which requires the ability to fight, and their leadership is promoted by victories over all sorts of alcaedas. The Kremlin, on the other hand, needs the army for self-promotion and not for war, so it beats off its feet by slapping and slapping along the parade ground, preparing for parades.
        The only thing that the Indians outdid the Russian Federation in terms of ostentation.
    2. +5
      27 February 2023 20: 54
      Against the backdrop of NATO's demonstration of power in Afghanistan?

      Where do you see the problem?
      At first they defeated the Taliban very quickly and captured what they wanted. Further in general - what is there to do in this hole? Don't do charity work. The tasks were completed, it was necessary to leave a long time ago, there was no point in "international assistance".
      They evacuated without their losses.
    3. +2
      27 February 2023 22: 49
      Quote: Kostadinov
      Against the backdrop of NATO's demonstration of power in Afghanistan?

      NATO did not set out to bomb all of Afghanistan. But you’ll get tired of catching partisans. Israel has been catching out for 20 years. It’s just that at some point the Americans decided that they didn’t need this bug. There are more important things. In the same way, by the way, the USSR decided, after 10 years of fraternal help.
  20. +21
    27 February 2023 11: 47
    It's hard to comment on that. But okay, let's try.

    hypersonic missile system "Dagger" - not a cartoon!

    Air-launched ballistic missile. Not that something revolutionary.
    possesses hypersonic missiles, protection against which does not yet exist in NATO

    Surely it doesn't exist? Where were these experiments carried out?
    The arsenal used by Russia in thousands of missiles and the ability to send a hundred missiles to targets in a salvo put Russia in second place after the United States in the world rating of powers possessing missile weapons.

    Some strange rating. Cruise missiles have a large number of countries. "Desert Storm" performed by the Aerospace Forces in the early days of the NMD completely failed. Neither air defense nor military infrastructure were suppressed. The enemy retained command and control of the troops and freedom of maneuver.
    Russian missile systems make it possible for Russia to terrorize all of Europe and even the coast of the United States with missiles in any circumstances

    Drug addict? Many countries have been engaged in demilitarization for thirty years, but very few people were able to pull everything apart like the Ukrainians.
    Poland will have the most fun

    Poland is already having a lot of fun, and most importantly, they are not sitting idle.
    Within the framework of the SVO, the modification of the MiG-27 with maximum unification with the Su-34 in terms of engine and avionics, with the replacement of the gun with the GSh-30-2, would be a more suitable platform for the use of FAB and NURS in strike missions in the depths of Ukraine.

    There's not even anything to add here. If, according to the author, modern aviation should work like this - well, nice.
    In principle, today the Russian air defense forces can still be considered the strongest on the planet.

    In terms of air defense, the NVO did not show anything new. Deeply backward materiel and a mess, this was also known in Syria. Fortunately for the Russian Federation, Ukraine cannot use this beyond the first tens of kilometers. Not yet.
    NATO armies would hang strike UAVs over this site

    It's harder there. Large UAVs do not work in a situation of active air defense.
    It is obvious that the UAV aspect of the RF Armed Forces is loved. But in this they are not unique.
    But Russian kamikaze UAVs have become the hallmark of the NWO. "Lancet" as an effective means of combating Western self-propelled guns and other equipment, and "Geran-2" has become a nightmare for the rear areas of Ukraine.

    Nothing interesting. Lancets fly to those who are lazy, keep the car in position for too long. In a full-scale war of the 80s, not the Lancet would fly there in an hour, but counter-battery fire in 10 minutes. But yes, a rare case of conceptually modern weapons in the RF Armed Forces. Shahid moped flying misunderstanding. All of them are useful - the enemy spends resources on rear air defense. It looks like a good idea only as long as the enemy, for political reasons, cannot respond in kind.
    Russian artillery still dominates the battlefield.

    The author writes from the summer, from the battles for Lisichansk? Half a year howling in the swamps already. The Soviet artillery is running out. It may not completely end, but there is no quantitative dominance at all.
    In the arsenal of the RA there are also projectiles corrected by a laser beam, which, with external illumination, allow hitting even moving targets from the first shot.

    From the 80s. Americans have long given up on this idea.
    And thanks to the modernization and increased efforts to produce advanced ammunition for artillery, it also has the potential to increase the capabilities of artillery even on the basis of existing artillery systems!

    ))
    Therefore, the mechanized units of the RA are not inferior in their capabilities to the units of the NATO armies.

    Drug addict? Russian Soviet junk is not inferior to Ukrainian Soviet junk. NATO army units are not visible, and even a trial batch of Western equipment, while you hear about two mechanized brigades, is NOT the level of NATO armies. This is not even the level of the army of Morocco.
    in general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and NATO armies

    wassat
    Despite the existing criticism of the Russian Ministry of Defense in general and Defense Minister Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu in particular, in my opinion, it was under him that the Russian army had an understanding of what kind of weapons it needed!

    As I understand it, this is the main part of the article.

    It's hard to believe that you can write something like this for free.
    1. +1
      27 February 2023 17: 09
      Still, whatever one may say, Ukraine is a big country. And the population there is also large. Comparing this war with NATO operations is not serious. They, over there, did not even imagine that there could be such an expense of shells. Used to drive the Arabs through the deserts. Although if you look, then these Arabs who just were not.
      1. +9
        27 February 2023 18: 22
        Quote: mmaxx
        Comparing this war with NATO operations is not serious

        Yeah. Someone knows how to do special military operations, someone does not.
        Quote: mmaxx
        Ukraine is a big country. And the population is also large.

        You can compare Ukraine with Iraq, you will learn a lot of new things. But this comparison from around May no longer makes sense.

        Since the days of Vietnam, the United States has been smart enough not to get involved with its own army in a proxy war with a strong enemy. And here, not only was there enough intelligence in the other direction, but they also announced this in advance, they say, we want a proxy war with NATO. See "Ryabkov's Ultimatum".

        What they asked for, they got. Everyone is happy, I hope.
    2. -6
      27 February 2023 20: 48
      Quote: Negro
      hypersonic missile system "Dagger" - not a cartoon!

      Air-launched ballistic missile. Not that something revolutionary.

      From your words, the thing is simple, but it flies more than 6 MAHs and it’s somehow so strange, but only Russia has it! request
      Quote: Negro
      possesses hypersonic missiles, protection against which does not yet exist in NATO

      Surely it doesn't exist? Where were these experiments carried out?

      nowhere, NATO does not have such an opportunity, that's when at least the "Dagger" will be able to repeat, they will be able to find out if they can or not! laughing in the meantime, NATO members themselves say that they still have nothing to shoot down hypersound
      Quote: Negro
      Some strange rating. Cruise missiles have a large number of countries.

      please announce the list in which countries have an arsenal of thousands of missiles, and even their own design? No.
      Quote: Negro
      Within the framework of the SVO, the modification of the MiG-27 with maximum unification with the Su-34 in terms of engine and avionics, with the replacement of the gun with the GSh-30-2, would be a more suitable platform for the use of FAB and NURS in strike missions in the depths of Ukraine.

      There's not even anything to add here. If, according to the author, modern aviation should work like this - well, nice.

      What does the concept of using modern aviation have to do with it, if we are talking about the realities of the NWO, in which expensive aircraft use conventional bombs to strike? If instead of 130 expensive Su34s, let's say 500 almost free MIG27s were used to throw conventional bombs and unguided rockets, then perhaps the result would have been different what
      Quote: Negro
      Nothing interesting. Lancets fly to those who are lazy, keep the car in position for too long

      keyword ARRIVAL, and regularly, judging by the video in the telegram
      Quote: Negro
      In the arsenal of the RA there are also projectiles corrected by a laser beam, which, with external illumination, allow hitting even moving targets from the first shot.

      From the 80s. Americans have long given up on this idea.

      it doesn't matter what the Americans like there, the main thing is that it works for us! good
      Quote: Negro
      In principle, today the Russian air defense forces can still be considered the strongest on the planet.

      In terms of air defense, the NVO did not show anything new.

      there’s nothing new to show and it’s not necessary, you just need to shoot down letaks monotonously, which is what air defense does wink
      1. +1
        27 February 2023 22: 30
        Quote: Eroma
        you need, you need to simply and monotonously shoot down letaks, which air defense does

        9999 buckets and the Golden Key will be ours! Hooray!
      2. +3
        28 February 2023 00: 01
        The dagger, let it be known to you, is just a MiG-31 Iskander suspended under the belly. No more no less. Experts estimate its flight range at 1800 km against the declared 3000 and speed in the region of Mach 5.5 - not so much. At the same time, there are no technologies for building new MiG-31s ​​in Russia, since the technology of titanium welds has been lost. As for the Su-34, it is necessary not to make a cheap replacement aircraft, but to develop modern ammunition. The plane is good, but they didn’t take care of the ammunition for it. "A computer in the hands of a savage is a piece of metal." And the article is clearly ordered. Russian air defense could not even cover Belgorod from regular Mi-24 attacks from Ukraine at the beginning of the NMD. Engels has already been spoken for. In Mariupol, Ukrainians regularly flew to Azovstal Mi-8 as well, until a couple were shot down. Here's your air defense. NATO and the US are just playing with Russia, seeing that Ukrainians can be used for their own purposes. If they decide it's time to fit in, maybe one US Marine Corps will make the weather in Ukraine. As for "hundreds of missiles." Then I will tell you that they are all counted and very few of them reach. For example, the number of Calibers in the total salvo of all carriers from the Black Sea is estimated at only 72. The Shaheds are doing something else. The Iskanders add a little and the not so numerous aviation of the Russian Federation gives something. And the show off from these volleys is not visible. They have been shooting for half a year, and the front is still there.
      3. +7
        28 February 2023 00: 25
        Quote: Eroma
        but only Russia has it!

        Nothing strange. When talking about any analogues, a normal person asks himself the question: "Why doesn't anyone need this anymore?"
        Quote: Eroma
        nowhere, NATO does not have such an opportunity

        NATO has been protecting against IRBMs for 30 years. NATO and Israel.
        Quote: Eroma
        NATO members themselves say that they still have nothing to shoot down hypersound

        This is when the next billions are asked from Congress? Or by "Americans" do you mean the authors of the national interest?

        In any case, the fashion to call OTRK and IRBM "hypersonic" does not change their qualities. As Hitler flew, they fly now.
        Quote: Eroma
        is there an arsenal of thousands of missiles, and even of our own design?

        And why "own development"? Most countries are not under sanctions yet.
        In any case, again, you don’t need much mind to repeat the V-1.
        Quote: Eroma
        If instead of 130 expensive Su34s, let's say 500 almost free MIG27s were used to throw conventional bombs and unguided rockets, then perhaps the result would have been different

        It is possible to send the Su-24/25, they are still capable of a one-way flight. I repeat, no one is against your idea, it remains only to catch the pilots.
        Quote: Eroma
        keyword ARRIVAL, and regularly

        Well, the lancet has a TV camera there, of course it shows something. On the other hand, drones of this class were supplied to the Ukrainian side, and nothing is heard about them. This is weird.
        Quote: Eroma
        the main thing is that it works for us!

        This does not work. For the arrival of a projectile or a laser-guided bomb, someone must highlight the target. So-so work in terms of longevity, the Americans found out back in the 80s.
        Quote: Eroma
        there’s nothing new to show and it’s not necessary, you just need to shoot down letaks monotonously, which is what air defense does

        This Ukrainian air defense showed something interesting. It seems that they managed to create a network on the Soviet base, at least at the front level. Means of destruction are untied from the means of airspace control.
        Russian air defense has not yet been properly tested. Antonovsky bridge, Engels, a smoking cruiser and the like, I am inclined to consider one-time incidents. If, nevertheless, they begin to work seriously, we'll see how the air defense is doing.
        1. -4
          28 February 2023 12: 07
          Quote: Negro
          Nothing strange. When talking about any analogues, a normal person asks himself the question: "Why doesn't anyone need this anymore?"

          don't wiggle! is this hypersound, who doesn’t need it? laughing
          Quote: Negro
          NATO has been protecting against IRBMs for 30 years. NATO and Israel.

          the emergence of new air targets usually leads to at least the creation of new missiles, and even to the creation of new air defense systems to effectively combat a new threat. As an example: the appearance of supersonic anti-ship missiles showed that conventional missiles were ineffective, new missiles had to be developed, the fight against OTR SCAD showed that fragmentation warheads were not effective enough, new missiles had to be developed, so it would be the same with hypersonic, they have a different flight profile and not the fact that missile defense missiles will be effective!
          Quote: Negro
          And why "own development"? Most countries are not under sanctions yet.
          In any case, again, you don’t need much mind to repeat the V-1.

          take it aside again! NATO countries do not have an arsenal of thousands of missiles, only the United States, and if the Americans themselves need missiles, then neither France nor Britain will receive them! In the world, too, there really is no one, a large arsenal of missiles (not the Kyrgyz Republic, but all sorts) can be in China, Iran and the DPRK, and that’s all
          Quote: Negro
          This does not work. For the arrival of a projectile or a laser-guided bomb, someone must highlight the target. So-so work in terms of longevity, the Americans found out back in the 80s.

          UAV today detects a target, corrects artillery fire and highlights the target, normal scheme
          Quote: Negro
          I repeat, no one is against your idea, it remains only to catch the pilots.

          for the Su34, pilots are found and they bomb with the help of the FAB, so it’s not about the pilots, but about the approach to business: if there’s nothing besides cast iron, then why bother to fence in the form of an expensive aircraft, where all its fancy avionics are just ballast that increases the cost aircraft at times, it is better to get more cheap aircraft! And if they stocked up on cool aircraft, then it was necessary to provide them with an appropriate arsenal in the form of smart bombs with an over-the-horizon range. You either take in numbers with simple bombs, or you take in quality with smart weapons, and we got it wrong here and there, neither number nor quality! Of course, it is right to work in the direction of quality, the question is whether they are capable?

          Quote: Negro
          Russian air defense has not yet been properly tested. Antonovsky bridge, Engels, a smoking cruiser and the like, I am inclined to consider one-time incidents. If, nevertheless, they begin to work seriously, we'll see how the air defense is doing.

          You really are a provocateur, everything is bad with us! No. in fact others are worse. Iran launched a dozen missiles and hit a dozen American bases in Iraq, and where was the US air defense? and the US bases in Syria, in my opinion, were shot from a UAV, why couldn’t they fight back? And Western air defense systems are guaranteed to cover Ukraine from strikes? And in Saudi Arabia, the refinery drones were smashed, and there was layered air defense! Western air defense is still weak negative therefore, against the background of their results, Russian air defense is working perfectly soldier
          1. +1
            1 March 2023 21: 55
            Quote: Eroma
            who doesn't need hypersound?

            Everyone has ballistic missiles, including the Yemeni Houthis.
            Quote: Eroma
            not the fact that missile defense missiles will be effective!

            Until you try it, you won't know.
            Quote: Eroma
            In the world, too, there really is no one, a large arsenal of missiles (not the Kyrgyz Republic, but all sorts) can be in China, Iran and the DPRK, and that’s all

            By mentioning the backward beggar dumps, Iran and North Korea, you yourself accidentally showed what the complexity and cost of this imaginary problem is. Moreover, the SVO showed how, having thousands of missiles from the Soviet legacy, it is useless to love them all. Strategic weapons are useless without a) sound political decisions, b) intelligence.
            Quote: Eroma
            UAV today detects a target, corrects artillery fire and highlights the target

            Usually such UAVs themselves carry guided bombs. This is much easier than pairing a UAV with artillery.
            Quote: Eroma
            You either take numbers with simple bombs

            I repeat, I really like your idea of ​​\u2b\uXNUMXbtaking air defense in quantity, in the style of grandfathers on the IL-XNUMX. In the early days, something like this was portrayed, but quickly stopped. But in vain. There are still many planes, but there is no benefit from them anyway. Let the VKS surprise the enemy with a true samurai fighting spirit.
            Quote: Eroma
            in fact, others are worse

            Something has taken you.
            Quote: Eroma
            hit a dozen US bases in Iraq

            Wow, how many American bases in Iraq.
            Quote: Eroma
            US bases in Syria, in my opinion, were shot from a UAV,

            And in Syria, the bases, they managed to do it everywhere.
            Quote: Eroma
            Western air defense systems guaranteed to cover Ukraine from strikes?

            There seem to be two of them, and both are in Kyiv. Yes, they work great. It is even surprising that just a couple of complexes helped to achieve a strategic result - the maniafantasy about the victory in the NVO by putting pressure on the Ukrainian rear ended up in the trash. Of course, not only nasams with iris solved the issue here, but their role cannot be ignored.
            Quote: Eroma
            Saudi Arabia's oil refinery was smashed by drones, and there was layered air defense!

            )))
            Yes, on that occasion there are many questions for the Saudis. And the first is whether they themselves blew themselves up in order to speculate on oil, to drive up prices.
            Quote: Eroma
            therefore, against the background of their results, Russian air defense works excellently

            )))
            Yep, just got it working. Let's see how it goes.
            The balance lies in the fact that their entire infrastructure is available for our weapons, we are able to hit it!

            )))
            No.
            Quote: Eroma
            Are NATO soldiers 2 heads better than veterans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine?

            Yes.
            Quote: Eroma
            why is the T90 worse?

            In short, everyone. It’s cheaper, perhaps, but for a tank this is a so-so plus. Not 40s in the yard.
            Quote: Eroma
            UAVs are only effective where there is no air defense

            Large UAVs. Small ones are effective everywhere.
            Quote: Eroma
            then only PARADISE shines for us

            Personally, you - hardly. But on Earth, it will also be quite unpleasant.
      4. 0
        8 March 2023 14: 29
        And pilots for 500 MIG-27s would also be free?
    3. 0
      9 March 2023 01: 25
      >Air-launched ballistic missile. Not that something revolutionary.
      the ballistic missile is Tochka-U, and they are shot down; The dagger still flies a little faster ...
  21. +17
    27 February 2023 12: 48
    Russia has confirmed that it has hypersonic missiles, against which NATO does not yet exist

    An unfounded assertion. There was a carload of such statements before the NWO, it is necessary to get rid of them in rhetoric. Considering the mass of "sudden, bright discoveries" to talk about what NATO has and does not have, what it is capable of and what it is not - this is a "pitchfork in the water." All our "pre-war" analytics can be safely sent to the archive.

    in general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and NATO armies

    Terrible logic. It is worth comparing the "degree of presence" in the conflict between NATO and the RF Armed Forces. Then there will be no illusions. How many NATO-made tanks are in Ukraine? 4 ? 10 ? How many planes? What% of the artillery systems or heavy equipment available in NATO was supplied to the Armed Forces of Ukraine? Finally, what figure on mercenaries can be caught from foreign analytics - 10 thousand? Well, 15 thousand. Well, even 20. What is the percentage of the total personnel of the Armed Forces of NATO countries?
    At the moment, neither the NATO CR nor the fleet are involved in the conflict, separate deliveries of UAVs are sheer homeopathy in comparison with what they have.
    All this reasoning that "we are at war with NATO" is ridiculous, ladies and gentlemen. While we can say that yes, NATO "helps" the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I would even say "strongly helps." Yes, this is serious help - with shells, Himars, armored cars, fuel and lubricants, old Soviet technicians and ammunition, medical products, intelligence, and so on. But what is all this% of the resources available to NATO? Small. No, no longer insignificant - just "small".
    And we must understand this and not be under illusions. For us, everything that is happening is ALREADY a major strain, and the conditional West has not even started yet, in fact ..
    1. -2
      27 February 2023 21: 31
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Russia has confirmed that it has hypersonic missiles, against which NATO does not yet exist

      An unfounded assertion.

      it is claimed that several targets were hit by the Dagger, which is a hypersonic missile. NATO cannot confirm the ability to hit hypersonic targets, due to the lack of hypersonic missiles in them, they have never solved these tasks and have not created systems to hit such targets! where can they get such an opportunity?

      "In general, a certain status quo remains between the Russian army and NATO armies
      Terrible logic."

      what is the HORROR? the reverse is also theoretical assumptions! NATO infrastructure in the form of AWACS aircraft and satellites, their data processing centers in this conflict say that they are used, but no one touches it! How will NATO troops operate and what will be their effectiveness without their infrastructure? Do you know? The balance lies in the fact that their entire infrastructure is available for our weapons, we are able to hit it! whether we can or not is another question. Are NATO soldiers 2 heads better than veterans of the Armed Forces of Ukraine? how scary are they? Abrams and Leopards of the latest modifications are probably poorly hit in the forehead, but are they perfectly hit in ALL other projections than the T90 is worse?
      And UAVs are only effective where there is no air defense, Bayraktar will not let you lie! wink
      Therefore, there is no need to panic, you need to panic, if the conflict really develops towards a war with NATO, then only PARADISE will shine for us, and I still have a lot of plans on mortal Earth feel
  22. BAI
    +13
    27 February 2023 12: 51
    The current leadership of the Ministry of Defense has shown that it is able to organize systematic work to solve a specific problem.

    Unfortunately, I cannot share the author's optimism. The leadership of the MO is only able to work under the influence of a magical kick in the ass.
    1. +14
      27 February 2023 17: 26
      Quote: BAI
      The leadership of the MO is only able to work under the influence of a magical kick in the ass.

      unable!!!
      it is impossible to work after kicks if you do not know how to work!!!!
      no matter how many kicks you can't play, football players - they won't be able to play and win!!!!
  23. +16
    27 February 2023 13: 23
    they forgot about electronic warfare, RER, communications, control center, intelligence, etc., etc. ... well, the quality of operational management and strategic vision ...
    1. Alf
      +14
      27 February 2023 18: 10
      Quote: Lawrence_NaVasNo
      they forgot about electronic warfare, RER, communications, control center, intelligence, etc., etc. ... well, the quality of operational management and strategic vision ...

      The author has not forgotten. The author did not mention this at all, so that the completely naked ... priest would not become visible.
      1. -2
        27 February 2023 19: 56
        There is no unequivocal information on these topics in the media, so it is impossible to say anything! hi
        Our aviation does not fly beyond the LBS, an article is published stating that the Khibiny is bullshit and there is no sense in them, and in an interview, the Su34 pilot says that thanks to the maneuverability of the aircraft and the Khibiny complex, he manages to avoid air defense fire. So Khibiny work or not?
        In the Telegram, they constantly show UAVs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that were planted with the help of electronic warfare, they say that electronic warfare disrupts a lot of attempts by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to use UAVs, but at the same time the UAV uses UAVs quite effectively, and how to evaluate the work of electronic warfare?
        RA regularly destroys counter-battery radar and air defense, how are they detected using RER? And why is counter-battery combat well staged in the Armed Forces of Ukraine? The RER does not work for us, but how are the enemies doing with this, because our headquarters and air defense are also all working?
        The Armed Forces of Ukraine strike at our warehouses and headquarters, every day we hit their warehouses, headquarters in the depths of defense and in general in the deep rear, and who does intelligence work better for?
        You need to compare not with the words "experienced", but on the basis of obvious facts! Yes
  24. +3
    27 February 2023 13: 39
    in the West, the industry is an order of magnitude larger and the technology is more modern. And 1000 daggers will solve the US problem of weakening Europe. Therefore, it is beneficial for the United States that the war between NATO and Russia begins when Ukraine sufficiently weakens the Russian army. Putin said that Russia would be destroyed, not destroyed, and it turns out that the Kremlin does not plan to use nuclear weapons in the war with NATO. As a result, the United States will receive only pluses. The territory of Russia will be taken under control, Europe will be weakened, hegemony on the planet will be established. With China, the same story, only the United States will weaken not Europe, but India, Korea and Japan, and the main competitor will be removed.
  25. +6
    27 February 2023 13: 48
    The arsenal used by Russia in thousands of missiles and the ability to send a hundred missiles to targets in a salvo put Russia in second place after the United States in the world rating of powers possessing missile weapons.

    Russian missile systems make it possible for Russia to terrorize all of Europe and even the coast of the United States with missiles in any circumstances. Poland will be the most fun of all, since its territory is within the radius of destruction of all missile systems in service with the Russian army.

    Despite this, Zelensky has not given up for more than a year.
    A poor parody of analytics. Didn't read further.
  26. +4
    27 February 2023 17: 04
    About the closure of the UAV corridor beyond Artemovsk ...., this is in vain. It would simply be a big prey for our aviation and air defense. The UAV against this is simply blind and deaf.
    True only for artillery. In the war, no one needed three-inch guns were fired to a pile of shells of 1916. Moreover, made according to French patterns and frankly weak. How did you manage to get rid of them?
    There was a chance to make a small start on the "Coalition". But where is she? Not even a year later. Apparently, a lot of work on current artillery systems. Not before her.
    Although there is a quantity, that's fine. Maybe they will finally introduce all the advanced shooting methods.
    According to normal, self-propelled artillery should have long been a semblance of a sea. Tea, already the 21st century. So that the crew only pushes shells.
  27. +7
    27 February 2023 17: 53
    Fortunately, the war revealed that we not only have outdated equipment, weapons and command, but also lack elementary things like normal shoes, backpacks and other equipment.
    1. +3
      28 February 2023 09: 43
      Nifiga yourself "happiness" to put several thousand men in the ground and make the same number of disabled people to find out "that we not only have outdated equipment, weapons and command, but also lack elementary things like normal shoes, backpacks and other equipment."
  28. +8
    27 February 2023 18: 19
    The author did not say anything about communications and intelligence (including space intelligence) and about the level of interaction between the types of troops. This is where even the Armed Forces of Ukraine have an advantage, not to mention NATO.
    1. 0
      27 February 2023 19: 59
      It looks like these problems are at the "genetic" level in our army
      since they were catastrophic at the beginning of the Second World War
      except that space intelligence then did not even dream of
  29. +2
    27 February 2023 19: 56
    It is difficult to trust a person who does not respect the language.
    "In Ukraine" is a stigma that casts doubt on the objectivity of the author.
  30. +2
    27 February 2023 20: 31
    ... The reasons for such a result will someday be explained by experts, to whom I do not belong. I propose to look at the differences between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the Air Forces of Western countries, which manifested themselves during the NWO ....

    Nobody paid attention to this paragraph from the author?
    Not an expert, but look what I will tell and show ...

    A bit personal, but I'm sorry!
  31. +5
    27 February 2023 21: 18
    If not Putin - blah blah. If not Shoigu - blah blah
  32. +6
    27 February 2023 21: 51
    Unfortunately, this is not analytics, but near-analytical agitprop, which is well shown in many comments, so there is no point in repeating...
  33. +1
    27 February 2023 21: 55
    The article is good, but does it lead to success and victory? Yes, the technical component is important. But not one article came out with an analysis of the strategy and tactics of the troops. Especially in comparison with NATO. take only superficially. The main tactics of NATO. Good intelligence at all levels. According to intelligence, appropriate training with multiple superiority. Then, as strong as possible, the first sudden strike is delivered on the most important targets, including civilians. the assigned tasks were completed. And then conducting, if possible, remote warfare. Moreover, the level of planning at the initial and subsequent stages is very high. Here is a superficial presentation of the strategy. What we see for ourselves is not worth writing.
  34. +6
    27 February 2023 22: 31
    The results of the rule of bourgeois power are evident. Putin has said so much about unparalleled weapons. Shoigu rubbed so much about modernization. And in the end we are fighting on what we got from the USSR. There are no new developments. There is no science. There is no industry. And well, we see it. And our potential adversary sees and evaluates this. And if this is the state of affairs in conventional weapons, then why should a potential adversary not suspect that we have the same mess in nuclear weapons? If everything is the same everywhere, both in the civilian sphere and in the military.
  35. -3
    27 February 2023 23: 04
    Yes, this is all garbage, for that we have the best medicine in the world.
    1. Alf
      0
      28 February 2023 19: 37
      Quote: u4gr8Kk6p8
      we have the best medicine in the world.

      "Us" or "Us"?
  36. -2
    27 February 2023 23: 23
    I liked the article regardless of whether it is more or less optimistic or more or less pessimistic. I would suggest producing more of what produces good results, like the Russian Lancet or the Iranian Geran/Sahed. In the case of the Lancet, some modification is needed to have more destructive power against tanks. Modern missiles capable of bypassing any missile defense should also be a priority in their production. The Russian army is not like the Chinese or other European one, it is hardened in numerous recent conflicts, it has a lot of experience, but it seems to be lacking in leadership and in combination of different weapons in battle. theater of war. In this sense, Wagner was surprisingly much more effective.
  37. +3
    28 February 2023 00: 28
    In thirty years, finally replacing UAZs with Tigers, modernizing Soviet tanks, putting an updated Tunguska on Kamaz is a great achievement. This should have been done without praise, and not in 30 years, but in 15 at least.
  38. 0
    28 February 2023 00: 33
    Please show me at least one tank with KAZ participating in hostilities ...
    In general, the article was rather liked than not. The author tried to approach quite carefully.
    The main question that remains unclear is why the advantage in aviation does not affect the fighting
  39. +2
    28 February 2023 02: 52
    gives hope to some, anxiety to others
  40. +3
    28 February 2023 06: 36
    There is no data on mines: our, theirs, countermeasures - in general Communication is a taboo topic (and this is 50% of our losses)? Equipment-household-logistics. There is no KAZ on tanks and any armor. And she could also work as an anti-infantry: she pointed a rangefinder at a trench and a couple of grenades / mines with an air blast over her head. A grenade from the garbage flew in from behind-left - the first grenade catches a rocket, the second grenade catches the crew / shooter.
    What to do with the loss of adequate officers and an excess of ballast?
    When will membership become mandatory for promotion?
    How about ideology? How to explain to a Tatar, an Armenian, a Bashkir why he should die for the Russian world?
    Why are the bridges across the Dnieper still intact?
  41. +4
    28 February 2023 09: 13
    If it were not for the Soviet legacy, there would be nothing to fight now, and after all, our Great Commander-in-Chief used to say that in the USSR only galoshes were made and now these galoshes are actively used by the Russian army, how is it?
  42. +1
    28 February 2023 09: 27
    Everything as usual . Generals are always preparing for the last war. Everything would have rolled in 14 years. But no matter how it rolls at 22/23.
  43. 0
    28 February 2023 10: 25
    We don’t have a pale appearance, BUT, one must understand that our country has always fought in full force, and has never fought in a limited way as a NWO. Unfortunately, we are learning this business from scratch.
  44. -1
    28 February 2023 10: 45
    I was especially pleased with the conclusion. The article is objective on many issues. You can read it without any anguish and panic, such as save who can the Russian ship goes to the bottom.
  45. +3
    28 February 2023 10: 58
    There is an anecdote about watching the observer... He pays a hundred times more.

    An army equipped with nuclear weapons, including tactical ones, cannot look pale. A-priory.

    Politicians who cannot let her fight at full strength look pale.

    A society with the feudal psychology of the 17th century, unable to put forward normal leaders, has a deathly ---- pale appearance.
    He would have been in a coffin for a long time, ....
  46. 0
    28 February 2023 11: 31
    Quote from tsvetahaki
    Against the backdrop of NATO's demonstration of power in Afghanistan?

    Where do you see the problem?
    At first they defeated the Taliban very quickly and captured what they wanted. Further in general - what is there to do in this hole? Don't do charity work. The tasks were completed, it was necessary to leave a long time ago, there was no point in "international assistance".
    They evacuated without their losses.

    1. The problem is that the Taliban had absolutely no outside help. They were in complete isolation. If Russia and China helped the Taliban, as NATO now keeps Kyiv on "team breathing", then NATO did not succeed in any capture. Like in Korea and Vietnam.
    2. What did NATO do in the "black hole"? Ask them. This is a matter of strategy. If you don’t have to do anything there, you can’t beat it and go there and something exciting.
    3. What tasks did they "perform" there? Many people have been lost, money has been wasted, and today in Afghanistan the government is even more hostile to the United States than it was before the "successful capture."
  47. +3
    28 February 2023 13: 08
    No offense, but sometimes it seems that the authors forget that topwar.ru is mostly visited by people who served in the army, who are interested in history, military equipment, military affairs, and the political situation. People are not bad, they read articles, watch videos, communicate with people like them. Articles like this are absurd.
    For housewives and for people who cannot distinguish self-propelled guns from a tank - that’s it, for more or less versed people - nonsense.
  48. 0
    28 February 2023 14: 01
    Yes, the 2nd Army of the World can hardly cope with the 22nd Army of the World ... but at the same time, the 1st Army of the World, reinforced not only by the rest of NATO members, but also by the 22nd Army of the World, cannot really do anything with the 2nd army of the world! :))
    But now the American army is stronger than when it will fight without the participation of the ukrovermacht! Because Chewbaks, despite the fact that they are Nazis and are subject to disposal, are excellent warriors. Because the same Slavs! And if they are not in conflict? Do you seriously think that American zoldatens will be hacked at least a quarter the way chubaks in the Donbass are hacked now?
    They won't even come close! Who are American soldiers - we perfectly saw in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc.. Fearlessly shooting a wedding and a school bus with grits from a helicopter is forever. But as soon as a bearded man in slippers has a machine gun in his hands, the American soldier no longer agrees to fight!
    1. 0
      1 March 2023 01: 26
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      but at the same time, the 1st Army of the World, reinforced not only by the rest of NATO members, but also by the 22nd Army of the World, cannot really do anything with the 2nd Army of the World! :))

      Some weird twist. The first army of the world, the second army of the world, where did you see all this? The First Army of the World, the Americans have not yet arrived, all the candidates for the Second Army of the World (in various aspects, different armies claim second place) have not been noted in Ukraine either. Yes, in fact, even without the second armies of the world, the issue is being resolved.
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      will American soldatens be chopped down at least a quarter the way chubaks in the Donbass are cut now?

      The heroism of soldiers is a sign of a poorly fighting army. If the army fights properly, only discipline and training are required from the soldiers.
      However, sometimes the Americans still fall into the air due to the mistakes of the command and / or political leadership. Then they usually perform well.
      Quote: Peter_Koldunov
      But as soon as a bearded man in slippers has a machine gun in his hands, the American soldier no longer agrees to fight!

      For American soldiers, the more heavily armed the enemy, the easier it is. In the war with Saddam's army, they lost a company killed, but in 10 years of occupation - a brigade. It is understandable. The army is not the police.
      1. +1
        1 March 2023 09: 53
        "But as soon as a bearded man in slippers has a machine gun in his hands, the American soldier no longer agrees to fight!
        For American soldiers, the more heavily armed the enemy, the easier it is.
        "

        Hmm, according to the precepts of Intelligence and according to the mood, the Americans can "knife from 10 meters", but this is when the cartridges for the machine gun, pistol and M16 / M4 have already run out, and mommy / daddy's dominators, who believe in ""American soldier refuses to fight"not over yet: "In the tenth house, Bellavia fatally shot a rebel who was preparing to load a rocket-propelled grenade. A second rebel fired at him, and Bellavia wounded him in the shoulder. When Staff Sergeant Bellavia entered the bedroom, the wounded rebel followed him, causing Bellavia to kill him. When another insurgent started firing from above, Bellavia returned fire and killed him. A fourth rebel then jumped out of the bedroom closet, screaming and firing his weapon as he jumped over the bed in an attempt to reach Bellavia. The rebel stumbled and was wounded by Bellavia. Bellavia chased after the rebel as he ran upstairs. He followed the bloody footprints of the wounded insurgent into the room on the left and threw a fragmentation grenade into it. Entering the room, Bellavia found it filled with propane tanks and plastic explosives. He did not fire his weapon for fear of an explosion, but instead engaged in hand-to-hand combat with the insurgent, resulting in Bellavia killing the insurgent by stabbing him in the collarbone."

        Well, a little first-person speech, Bellavia, (Medal of Honor for Fallujah): "Do I have the courage to do what my f//////// heart wants from me? If I don't enter, they win. How many times have we heard that American soldiers rely on firepower and technology because they lack courage? How many times has our enemy said that one on one they can defeat us? Nothing new. The same was said by the Japanese during World War II.
        ...
        I jump on the enemy. Before he can answer, I land right on his chest. A stream of air escapes from his mouth. I beat the wind out of him. I tear the bulletproof vest and open it. With my right hand on the sleeve that holds my five-pound front armor plate, I grab the insurgent by the hair and ram his head forward, tucking his chin into my chest. Now it's stuck in place. All I have to do is finish him off.
        I hit him with the inside of my armor plate. I hit him in the face over and over and over until blood runs all over my shirt. He kicks, waves his arms and screams. Each scream is interrupted by another strike of the plate. He fights under me. Throws out his hand. Fingers scratch my face. I drive the plate into him harder. He screams and howls, but refuses to obey. Someone answers him in Arabic. The voice comes from the roof above us.
        I do not know what to do. Someone is screaming something. I listen to Arabic. I think I hear, "Are you okay?" and "God!"
        The man below me tries to answer, but I punch another fist into his face. He accepts this and weakly pushes me back. Blood splatters from his face onto mine. My grip on him is loosening. One more push and he'll be free.
        I suddenly remember the night of the breakthrough when Santos and Stackert hit the wire. I used my Gerber knife to try and cut them out of the trap and when I was done I attached it to my belt. I just used it a little earlier to poke a dead guy in the street. My belt. I have a knife on my belt. I sit up, leaning against his chest. I slowly rise to my feet. Legs spread, center of gravity low. I reach for my belt as it follows me. His face butts my crotch. I feel his teeth bite into me.
        Oh, b/////i.
        I hit him on the head, but he grinds his teeth harder. Burning agony, pain, I never knew that I could survive such blows to my nervous system. It threatens to take my mind. I fight it but I'm weak.
        It takes tremendous effort to unhook the Gerber from my belt. I use it like a club. At first my blows are miserable. They land on his head and do nothing to dissuade him. He growls, screams and holds a bite. The pain almost paralyzed me. It hits every nerve, every vein. My brain is overloaded. Finally, all of a sudden, I became crazy.
        My hand rises above my head and then slashes with every bit of energy I have left. The Gerber hilt crashes down on my enemy's head. Stunned, he falls to the floor again. I can feel warm fluid dripping from my crotch down my legs, but I can't think about it right now. I open Gerber. The blade locks into place.
        I pounce on him. My body presses against his and I slide the knife right under his collarbone. My first hit hits hard meat. The blade stops, my hand slips off the hilt and slides across the blade, slicing through my little finger. I grab the pen again and squeeze it hard. The blade plunges into him, and he howls in horror and pain. The blade finally sticks to the handle.
        I push and push him, hoping to get under his collarbone and sever an artery in his neck. He resists, but I feel that with every second he is weakening.
        ...
        I sit in the corner, away from the stairs. I take out the Marlboro Red. My lips are stretched and swollen. I do not care. I light a cigarette, take a long puff, and look at the dried blood caked under my nails. I reach out and pull a piece of cabinet wood, no more than a large shard, from my arm above the elbow.
        What a e////////th day.
        Silent steps. Someone is on the stairs. I inhale again and exhale. The smoke stays in the air.
        My throat hurts like I have a strep infection.
        "Hey."
        "Sergeant Bell, Sergeant Bell, where are you?"
        This is Lawson.
        “Here, upstairs,” I manage.
        "Sergeant Bell, are you all right? Why didn't you stay downstairs? Are you okay, man?"
        "I am doing well. I'm fine".
        It's a lie. I wonder if I'll ever be okay again.
        "
  49. +2
    28 February 2023 14: 35
    Where to get competent designers and skilled workers???!!
  50. -1
    28 February 2023 16: 44
    Everything is going according to plan, but according to whose? Again, we will plug all the "holes" with landing troops and specialists, nothing, they "cooled" at the training grounds, while the mabuta was busy with business, preparing for parades and biathlons, Once they learned to shoot and run, so let them fight, but parade troops must be protected. T.b. taking into account the fact that now, who would have thought, from the BTG and other Gs, the divisions and the army urgently need to be “riveted” on a new one, and even taking into account the hellish shortage of commanders of the company and battalion level.
  51. +2
    28 February 2023 18: 22
    well written... but we have a new uniform of an incomprehensible design, parades, biathlons, churches, partisan villages, Kronstadt forts, etc. managers rule the Ministry of Defense, that’s what’s offensive
  52. 0
    28 February 2023 18: 30
    If you look at it from the perspective of the SVO, the author is right. But if we proceed from the fact that this is a prelude, where not the newest weapons will do, which, in turn, will be most needed in the next act, when individual NATO countries will appear on stage with their new weapons, then the General Staff is acting in the right direction, in my amateurish opinion.
  53. 0
    28 February 2023 22: 51
    The Russian army has problems and they need to be solved. For example, we need heavy armored vehicles.
    I was thinking today that they are saying that the offensive is not going on. Well, okay, but what if the equipment moved at a speed of 120 km per hour, for example a tank? Could they have stopped him?
    Our Ministry of Defense doesn’t even think that we need faster tanks and planes that can evade missiles. They didn't think so before.
    Maybe a civilian should not have been appointed to the post of Minister of Defense? He doesn’t know how it should be in the army, and his assistant, no matter how you look, is always silent. With such leadership and such an offensive, they felt sorry for the enemy at first.
    We need to clear out every house, and not hit the houses with air force if they have settled there.
    Prigozhin says about sofa-type people, that it’s hard there, but we all understand, and we understand what is missing in order to attack, aviation must work, iron, but it is afraid to fly out. This means that such aircraft are not needed; we need to switch to drones.
    Tanks are afraid to attack, let’s take the shank as an example, no one will want to go out with grenade launchers under the shank, and if there were 6-8 tanks going with the tank, imagine what a barrage of fire, and the infantry is approaching the trenches
    What do we need? We need Flurry of Fire systems for tanks, more large-caliber barrels. Especially if these systems are configured with a thermal imager to hit silhouettes. Now, if tanks come with vehicles with large-caliber machine guns and thresh, then we will pass. And behind them will be armored vehicles that can withstand an RPG attack like tanks
    When we will have a lot of drones, when there will be more satellites in space that will be able to enlarge the image and target the drones. A lot of work. but whether they will do this is the question. Well, as for missiles, it’s not a year to not have long-range missiles in the arsenal in order to lay down bridges.
    Now, to stop the transfer of weapons, you just need to lay bridges. We need concrete-piercing missiles, those that could lay the bridge support. You've seen the supports, they're not such difficult goals. Drones are needed with thermal imagers. We need a network of radars, using the example of GSM communications on poles, we have radars for cars, we also need radars for drones
    Today they said that in a year Ukraine was given weapons worth 100 billion dollars.
    We now have to spend a couple of trillion rubles just on replenishing reserves
    They were given 700 billion rubles worth of weapons for our course
  54. -1
    28 February 2023 23: 12
    1 is our budget and this does not include weapons. Ukraine is given 067,3 billion weapons.
    IM all sorts of rod and rod weapons, up to super modern
    The only way to win a war is with a large number of Iskander missiles
    For example, why didn’t the West count the missiles in India, but only Russia tries to count how many we have and what. You don’t have to agree to any agreements, it’s all a piece of paper. We have an agreement with the United States, but in fact we are opposed by the NATO bloc and all their might.
    They see for themselves that we don’t hit. Yeah, that means we don’t have missiles.
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  56. 0
    1 March 2023 00: 38
    I read it and understand that everyone is completely bewildered. How did we get to this..., why is everything about...., how can this be... And the conclusion suggests itself, since we weren’t ready, there was no need to start this whole farce with the SVO. And now that our “brilliant” luminary has started this mess, everyone will have to sort it out together, and there’s no need to whine! We now have only two options, either Berlin in Kyiv, or Nuremberg in The Hague!
    1. +2
      1 March 2023 01: 02
      Quote: Ivan_Sechin
      We now have only two options, either Berlin in Kyiv, or Nuremberg in The Hague!

      Who are you? Who do you personally work for, that they will take you to The Hague?
  57. 0
    1 March 2023 03: 12
    ..."tanks, planes, comrade Zhukov, I won’t give it to you, I’ll assemble three armies."... 80 years have passed and nothing has changed - people!!!, the main striking force of our Defense Ministry. It’s good that the minister is not a gynecologist, although the difference is small.
  58. 0
    1 March 2023 09: 57
    Quote: Knell Wardenheart
    And we must understand this and not be under illusions. For us, everything that is happening is ALREADY a major strain, and the conditional West has not even started yet, in fact ..


    There is no “capital strain” observed at all. As we lived, so we live. Well, yes, weapons production has been increased, but this should have been done a long time ago. The number of those mobilized is insignificant compared to their potential number.
    The West began a long time ago and realized with horror how insignificant its arsenals turned out to be. Even for a local high-intensity conflict, supplies became insufficient. And there are not enough barrels and shells and everything else. Moreover, the population of Western countries (although it had not yet begun, in fact) began to complain with dissatisfaction at their powers that be, they began to organize protests, in England in a year a couple of prime ministers fell like overripe apples...
    As for the Western mercenaries in Ukraine, these are the few who are actually capable of fighting seriously, since most of the soldiers of the European armies are not capable of anything serious at all. In Afghanistan and Iraq, recruits from PMCs were also sent on real combat missions, and the soldiers only drank beer in the barracks. So the West is losing the color of its military in Ukraine, since Western modern existence is as suitable for the formation of real soldiers as the forest-tundra is for ostriches. But it is still impossible to replace living “meat” on the battlefield with robots.
  59. 0
    1 March 2023 10: 05
    Thanks to the Soviet authorities for leaving so many weapons. And what do we thank her for? Over the past decades, all they did was pour crap on her and tell tales about galoshes
  60. 0
    3 March 2023 09: 21
    Quote: voice of reason
    After reading the title, I expected a more alarmist article. But no. In my opinion, quite an adequate analysis of the situation. Thanks to the author, I support.

    You don’t have enough support, they’re downvoted in all your articles.
  61. 0
    8 March 2023 18: 34
    It’s strange, for 10 years under the ShSK there was one understanding of the situation, in the last year it has become different, but no less profound and certainly leading to parity with the NATO bloc. The article gives the impression that it was prepared in the depths of the ShSK PR bloc.
    Until the army comes under popular control of a normal defense committee of the State Duma of the Russian Federation or the Federation Council, nothing will change. In the meantime, Kartapolov serves as a watchman.
  62. 0
    9 March 2023 01: 09
    >NATO armies would hang attack UAVs over this area, such as Bayraktar TB2 or MQ-9 Reaper,
    which would immediately be shot down by air defense missiles
    the author is truly an amateur
  63. 0
    11 March 2023 06: 10
    The coalition immediately destroyed Iraq with aircraft and missiles to the maximum, they didn’t look where the civilians were, and our peacekeepers didn’t even touch the barracks with equipment and military personnel, and air defense, so it’s not even close
  64. -1
    7 November 2023 10: 25
    Putin told you that you need to remove the oligarchs and make a constitution in the Russian legal framework in 20 - the main tasks of the referendum. But the people supported it - NO. That’s the result.