The American publication compared the Ukrainian Su-27 fighters with the Russian Su-35

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Against the backdrop of ongoing accusations against Russia of alleged plans to attack Ukraine, some Western publications have begun to compare the armies of the two countries, as well as weapons and military equipment in service. The American edition of Military Watch decided to compare Aviation two countries, or rather the Su-27 fighters of the Ukrainian Air Force and the Su-35 of the Russian Aerospace Forces.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine inherited a fairly impressive amount of combat aircraft from the Soviet army, including MiG-29 and Su-27 fighters. The Ukrainian Air Force was one of the five largest in the world, but the past years of independence and the lack of investment in aviation have led to the fact that today the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has only 84 aircraft, of which 34 are Su-27 fighters, including the training version.



After the collapse of the USSR, after some stagnation, Russia was actively involved in the development of new combat aircraft. According to the plans of the military, in the second decade of the 21st century, the Su-57 fighter was supposed to be the main aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces, but delays in its production led to the entry into the first roles of the Su-35 heavy fighter, which is a further development of the Su-27.

In the event of the outbreak of hostilities, Ukrainian aviation will collide in the air with Russian aircraft, which means that Ukrainian Su-27s will confront Russian Su-35s. The modern Russian aircraft is significantly superior to the already obsolete Ukrainian fighter. The most significant advantage lies in avionics: the Su-35 radar detects targets at a range of 400 km, while the Su-27 radar can only detect enemy aircraft at a distance of 80 km. In addition, the Russian aircraft has two additional L-band AESA radars, a digital cockpit, an improved Khibiny-M electronic warfare system, a modern KSU-35 digital flight control system, and much more sophisticated data and communications channels.

The armament of the Su-35 is also superior to the Su-27. The aircraft has excellent capabilities for both ground strikes and air superiority. The missile armament of the Russian fighter is more diverse, unlike the Su-27. The thrust vectoring engines and the superb flight characteristics of the Su-35, coupled with the armament, provide the fighter with a very significant range advantage over the Su-27.

A military simulation conducted by Western analysts of a Russian Su-35 clash with Ukrainian fighter jets showed that Russia would have a huge advantage in the event of a clash. Although the publication believes that Ukrainian aviation will avoid open clashes with Russian aircraft, shifting the vector to strikes on the ground. The impossibility of modernizing Ukrainian fighter jets means that they are unlikely to pose a serious threat to the Russian Aerospace Forces, the publication concludes.
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  1. +43
    23 January 2022 12: 01
    Su 27 still Soviet-made is not cognac at all. They don't get better with age.
    1. +40
      23 January 2022 12: 04
      Quote: Amateur
      They don't get better with age.

      and even so, the Ukrainian Su-27s will first encounter other means, and only then with aviation ... if anyone has it.
      1. +23
        23 January 2022 12: 12
        Quote: NDR-791
        and even so, the Krai Su-27s will first encounter other means, and only then with aviation ....

        I will add just one word -
        if someone will take off
        1. +19
          23 January 2022 12: 24
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I will add just one word -
          if someone will take off

          Complement hi
          If there is someone and where to take off
          1. 0
            24 January 2022 00: 56
            No doubt they will fly.
            But in order to land on the airfields of the Crimea. Pilots are piece goods. It is hard for them to spoil their brains with Bendera propaganda.
            1. +4
              24 January 2022 13: 02
              I wonder who then bombed the Donbass?
            2. +2
              24 January 2022 13: 28
              not a fact at all. Someone, without hesitation, bombed Slavyansk from the air. And not only him
        2. +6
          23 January 2022 12: 25
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          if someone will take off

          To whom and on what
        3. +5
          23 January 2022 12: 30
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          if someone will take off

          Well, that's what I was thinking wassat It's just a little hard for me to express my hammered thoughts after the piva wassat drinks belay
          1. +5
            23 January 2022 12: 58
            Quote: NDR-791
            It's just a little hard for me to express my hammered thoughts after the piva wassat drinks belay

            drinks
            The time for cognac has not yet come. crying
            1. +4
              23 January 2022 13: 20
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              The time for cognac has not yet come.

              Today is a family holiday, tomorrow is a day off. And therefore I use the principle of politicians and journalists - "The degree must be raised!!!" tongue good
          2. +3
            23 January 2022 13: 45
            Hello colleague! Also almost since the morning, but I haven’t raised the degree yet. Happy holiday! drinks
      2. -1
        23 January 2022 13: 57
        Quote: NDR-791
        and even so, the Ukrainian Su-27s will first encounter other means, and only then with aviation ... if anyone has it.


        Rather, everything will be finished at the airfields. Nobody even takes off. The big question is how many Su-27s in the Ukrainian air fleet are in principle capable of taking off and have the proper level of readiness.
        1. +2
          23 January 2022 14: 03
          Quote: Orel
          The big question is how many Su-27s in the Ukrainian fleet are, in principle, capable of taking off

          There is information that no more than 50 can take off regularly (this is if together with the MiG-29). The rest are for donation.
      3. +3
        23 January 2022 16: 52
        Quote: NDR-791
        and even so, the Ukrainian Su-27s will first encounter other means, and only then with aviation ... if anyone has it.

        =======
        I think that AFTER the collision with the S-400, there will be SOMEONE! .... request And if also with the Su-35S ..... request
        1. +2
          23 January 2022 16: 56
          Quote: venik
          And if also with the Su-35S .....

          Well, to be honest, we don't have many Su-35s. He was originally prepared as an export, but did not go. Only the modernization of the rest did not stand still, and our modern Su-27 cannot be compared with the Krajinsky one at all.
          1. +1
            23 January 2022 17: 21
            Quote: NDR-791
            Well, to be honest, we don't have many Su-35s.

            ======
            Well .... Hundred and a half .... Quite a few ...
            ---------
            Quote: NDR-791
            He was originally prepared as an export, but did not go.

            ====
            What, seriously? belay
            --------
            Well, business!!!! request
          2. -1
            23 January 2022 18: 14
            On the western borders in the bulk of the Su 30SM and Su 27SM3
          3. +3
            23 January 2022 21: 44
            Quote: NDR-791
            Well, to be honest, we don't have many Su-35s.

            =======
            You think so? Well, to be honest - more than a hundred .... And every year - there are 2 dozen more ... hi
    2. +10
      23 January 2022 12: 36
      Quote: Amateur
      Su 27 still Soviet-made is not cognac at all. They don't get better with age.

      Good planes .., but everything is moving forward and even if the jumps do not lift them from the airfields. Even without our SU-35s, they will be left without aviation, if anything ..
    3. +2
      23 January 2022 13: 21
      Quote: Amateur
      Su 27 still Soviet-made is not cognac at all. They don't get better with age.

      Definitely a losing analogy ..... but a chance analogy with women appears ... If Israel gets involved in the modernization of the filling ..... "only Pan Ataman has no gold reserves" ... request
  2. +12
    23 January 2022 12: 02
    If suddenly we turn on aviation, which I strongly doubt, then it will fly in an already clear sky, without an enemy.
  3. +10
    23 January 2022 12: 03
    Compare, well done. Straight captain-obvious.
    1. +8
      23 January 2022 12: 15
      Quote: evgenii67
      Compare, well done. Straight captain-obvious.

      laughing
  4. +21
    23 January 2022 12: 03
    Where are the salaries paid for such "comparisons"? I'll go there, I'll be an expert.
    1. +6
      23 January 2022 12: 09
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      I'll go there, I'll be an expert.

      There are plenty of their own .. there is a queue
    2. +5
      23 January 2022 12: 54
      So here in VO they pay. Recently, there are at least a dime a dozen such would-be experts on the site. And you don’t need to go anywhere.
  5. +14
    23 January 2022 12: 04
    Rzhu nimagu))) found something to compare))) of all the Bandera Su - 27, really "suitable", at least for something, 6 pieces that were repaired with modernization in Russia in 2006 - 08. There were two more, but they were given to mattress makers. Everything else is just scrap metal.
    1. -1
      23 January 2022 12: 51
      Quote: TermNachTER
      find something to compare

      Bolonka with wolfhound
  6. +15
    23 January 2022 12: 04
    ".... In the event of the outbreak of hostilities, Ukrainian aviation will collide in the air with Russian aircraft ..."

    - in the event of a real war, Ukraine will have enough gas for 5-7 days.
    Further - the collapse and the white flag.
    1. +4
      23 January 2022 13: 01
      Quote: Olga
      Further - the collapse and the white flag.

      So it will be Yes
    2. +6
      23 January 2022 13: 24
      and this is the purpose of mattresses, to hang this ballast around our necks.
      1. +6
        23 January 2022 14: 21
        If we consider at least some likelihood of a military conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation, then this will end with someone having to recognize the autonomy of the DPR and LPR.
        If there will be inclusion in the Russian Federation, then only by regions, without coercion.
        All Ukraine is no longer needed by the Russian Federation.

        It looks more likely - this is coercion to comply with the Minsk agreements.
        1. +2
          23 January 2022 15: 51
          Quote: Olga
          All Ukraine is no longer needed by the Russian Federation.

          It looks more likely - this is coercion to comply with the Minsk agreements.

          You are a citizen, confusing tactics and strategy.
          Strategically, Russia is fighting for Ukraine.
          And Minsk ... is one of the tactical moves.
          1. +6
            23 January 2022 17: 47
            And who told you that I'm talking about strategy?
            You, a citizen, first tell us what period you are considering from the point of view. strategy in the matter of unification/acquisition/conquest of ALL Ukraine?
            If years 15-25, then partly agree. If the period is 1-2 years, then I doubt it.
            You have to really look at things.
            In the course of implementing such a strategy in the medium term, the following will remain:
            - either a part of the state-Ukraine (then I admit the implementation of such a strategy in 20-30 years),
            -either this part will go to Poland or somewhere else (together with the Soros).

            If, for example, we get ALL of Ukraine in the form it is now, then we will get a huge problem, both financial and domestic. Are we not enough now running around with posters around the squares, and agitating for the overthrow of power in social networks?

            Maybe I'm wrong, this is my vision of the issue.
            1. -4
              23 January 2022 19: 14
              Quote: Olga
              All Ukraine is no longer needed by the Russian Federation.

              Quote: Olga
              If, for example, we get ALL of Ukraine in the form it is now, then we will get a huge problem, both financial and domestic.

              The second statement is already clear. And the first one is clearly rash.
              Quote: Olga
              If, for example, we get ALL of Ukraine in the form it is now, then we will get a huge problem, both financial and domestic.

              Well, the strategy is to play for a long time.
              And to scatter lands - the state will quickly end.
              As they say when playing preference: "you need to fight for every whist", because you need to increase the chance of success, at least up to 51%. At the slightest concession, your success turns into failure.
              1. +6
                23 January 2022 20: 04
                Quote: Genry
                At the slightest concession, your success turns into failure.

                Success can turn into failure even with the wrong move, if it is not adequately assessed.

                Honestly, I do not see any immediate prospects for integration with Western Ukraine.
                1. -2
                  24 January 2022 00: 52
                  Quote: Olga
                  I do not see any immediate prospects for integration with Western Ukraine

                  Crimea and Donbass showed that the most radical part of the population simply ran away and did not want to live "under Russia."

                  Terrorist movement?
                  Using the experience of the Caucasus, involve key nationalists in management and they will be responsible for the "deeds" of the health of their relatives.

                  And Chechnya, how was it in your time? There was a diaspora in the USA.

                  Now Dagestan is being educated - the repentant speeches of the "proud" on the central channel.

                  The president of Tatarstan was demoted. It was also a problem area.
                  1. +3
                    24 January 2022 07: 43
                    Quote: Genry
                    Now Dagestan is being educated

                    The fact of the matter is that we are still re-educating.
                    As for Dagestan and Chechnya, this is a fait accompli. And it's good that they made it on time.
                    Ukrainians have a different mentality and they are not so quick-tempered. They just quietly, but strongly hate us (Western). And they always hated, even under the USSR.
                    Quote: Genry
                    Crimea and Donbass showed that the most radical part of the population simply fled

                    Because they knew they were in the minority. What can not be said about the Western.

                    For me (if at the level of emotions and the language of "usability" and in a whisper
                    1. +1
                      24 January 2022 07: 47
                      *** The last part was not published. Doesn't follow site rules...
                      1. -2
                        24 January 2022 11: 56
                        Quote: Olga
                        For me (if at the level of emotions and the language of "usability" and in a whisper

                        Yes-ah, you should not have gone into this topic. Yes
                      2. 0
                        24 January 2022 15: 16
                        Quote: Genry
                        Quote: Olga
                        For me (if at the level of emotions and the language of "usability" and in a whisper

                        Yes-ah, you should not have gone into this topic.

                        I repeat that my message was not published in full. Cut off the last part.

                        But, I didn’t give you a minus.

                        In general, if you are not ready to hear an opinion that does not coincide with yours, then it is better not to ask questions at all.
                      3. -1
                        24 January 2022 16: 28
                        Quote: Olga
                        But, I didn’t give you a minus.

                        In general, if you are not ready to hear an opinion that does not coincide with yours, then it is better not to ask questions at all.

                        Cons don't bother me, so I don't watch.
                        Did I express my dissatisfaction or disrespect? hi
                        Controversy - yes! That's what this smoker is made for. fellow
  7. +15
    23 January 2022 12: 05
    Although the publication believes that Ukrainian aviation will avoid open clashes with Russian aircraft, shifting the vector to strikes on the ground.


    And who will allow them to do this?
    1. +2
      23 January 2022 12: 28
      Quote: cniza
      And who will allow them to do this?

      For a fee and at their landfills
      1. +2
        23 January 2022 12: 42
        They are also successfully disposed of at their landfills ... whoever is supposed to know about it, but keep quiet in a rag.
        1. 0
          23 January 2022 12: 50
          Quote: rocket757
          They are successfully disposed of at their landfills ...

          And these are their problems request
          1. +4
            23 January 2022 13: 00
            Well, yes, we are their doctor, or what?
    2. +3
      23 January 2022 12: 41
      At the expense of making war, this is for artisans from journalism and other politicians ... even in the camp of Kukuev, not everyone is ready to go for it, because it’s scary that there is a very reasonable one on their part.
      1. +3
        23 January 2022 18: 17
        Yes, to speculate who to whom and how, from the outside, they can ...
        1. 0
          23 January 2022 19: 29
          Unfortunately, they manage to inspire all sorts of garbage, not very smart, to some.
          Schulers are still those ...
          1. +3
            23 January 2022 21: 05
            They're pros at hanging noodles...
    3. +3
      23 January 2022 12: 42
      There are 18 active VAs and 6 spare ones near the outskirts. Let's even assume a 30% air defense defeat. A volley of 60-70 missiles. What will they refuel?
  8. +15
    23 January 2022 12: 06
    An article about Russian and Ukrainian aircraft.
    In the last paragraph, an American plane suddenly appears sideways.
    Either I'm a klutz, or the author confused Ukrainian aviation with American.
    Unfortunately, such blunders appear more and more on the pages of VO.
  9. -1
    23 January 2022 12: 09
    There will be no collisions. 21 century. Money is everything.
    1. +1
      23 January 2022 13: 58
      Who should pay whom? Washington to Kiev? Or Moscow to Kiev? Or Moscow-Washington?
      1. 0
        23 January 2022 14: 21
        As usual, the poor - the rich.
        1. 0
          23 January 2022 14: 24
          The defeated are the winners, or rather. Only the Papuans in the African forests and jungles of the Amazon, and remote villages in the wilderness of Siberia, will win this war. Penguins in Antarctica, maybe. And Russia will not be to blame for this.
          1. 0
            23 January 2022 14: 28
            There was an article here not so long ago, no one will be able to glaze the whole world. In my Timokhin.
            1. +3
              23 January 2022 14: 32
              Timokhin is not the Minister of Defense, not the owner of TNCs, not the president, he is just a writer. Just imagine how soon any city with a population of a million will fall in the absence of electricity, water and other benefits of civilization, and in fact they will be absent not for a month or two, but for years .And there will be many of them. Both for us and for THEM. But do they need it because of Ukraine?
              1. 0
                23 January 2022 14: 40
                That's just the point, interested people need a clean planet, that's why they put pressure on everyone economically. And khikhela so, a bargaining chip, no more.
                1. -1
                  23 January 2022 14: 48
                  In the case of a real global batch, purity will be restored in thousands of years, and humanity will no longer remember what happened. Judging by the historical writings of different peoples of the world, this has already happened. Where and when, not to me, but there are too many artifacts to deny the obvious.
                  1. +1
                    23 January 2022 14: 51
                    This should be discussed elsewhere... hi
                    1. 0
                      23 January 2022 15: 09
                      Why not here? After all, you can’t get away from history! Although they are rewriting it as best they can. Even, or rather, even more so now. And although hypotheses about the origin of all artifacts are just hypotheses, there are a lot of BUT that modern science bypasses, modest silently, sideways. It is quite possible that the collective West will bring humanity to the point where humanity will have to be reborn again. Degradation will take several hundred years, rebirth-thousands.
                      1. 0
                        23 January 2022 15: 25
                        Here only Einstein's phrase about sticks and stones climbs into my head wassat
  10. +4
    23 January 2022 12: 15
    There will be two collisions (if any) - the first and the last wassat IMHO, there will be no collisions. Striped-eared people really want this... Ukrainians don't need it at all. But the APU is still not meat ... to send it to slaughter.
  11. +2
    23 January 2022 12: 16
    It’s enough to read the title. And then you don’t have to read it. Russia will tear Ukraine like a heating pad. But there is already progress, no one will sign up for a direct clash with Russia in Ukraine. And sanctions, they are such sanctions, can be overdone.
  12. +1
    23 January 2022 12: 21
    Yes, the Su-35S is undoubtedly superior to the Su-27, but with all this, the Su-27 remains a formidable weapon capable of destroying air and ground targets.

    Russia still has about 70 Soviet-built Su-27s in service, and they are still in operation.

    Ukraine is armed with R-27 missiles with a semi-active radar, infrared and anti-radar seeker of its own production, and this is quite enough to create at least problems in the air for the Russian Aerospace Forces. Considering also the fact that the United States will do everything possible to provide the Ukrainian Air Force with the most up-to-date information on the air situation, as well as all intelligence.

    It is very possible that the Ukrainian Air Force will avoid a collision with the Su-35, but at the same time attack the Su-24/25/34 and ground targets.
    1. +10
      23 January 2022 12: 29
      In 2004-2009, all SU-27s were repaired and upgraded to the Su-27SM variant for the Russian Air Force. Under the program of the so-called "small modernization", the instrumentation of the cockpits, part of the avionics were replaced, the airframe was finalized; the aircraft was able to use air-to-surface guided weapons. And the SU-27, as on the outskirts, is gone
      1. -1
        23 January 2022 13: 22
        Quote: rusich
        In 2004-2009, all SU-27s were repaired and upgraded to the Su-27SM variant for the Russian Air Force.

        this is not true
        otherwise, in 2015, they would not have signed an agreement to upgrade 36 combatant Su-27S (P) to the level of Su-27SM (3)
      2. -3
        23 January 2022 13: 40
        Those that are SM are separate, but for now, simple Su-27s are in service with Russia.
        1. 0
          23 January 2022 18: 15
          If they are, they have been in storage for a long time.
    2. +3
      23 January 2022 12: 33
      Ratmir, won't the airfield become prime targets for missiles ??? So I think that the aviation of Ukraine will be withdrawn in the second place.
      1. -3
        23 January 2022 13: 39

        Ratmir, won't the airfield become prime targets for missiles ??? So I think that the aviation of Ukraine will be withdrawn in the second place.


        Before the start of hostilities, Ukrainian aircraft will be dispersed at alternate airfields, so a strike on the main airfields will certainly cause some damage, but it will not be able to completely eliminate Ukrainian aviation.
        1. +1
          23 January 2022 14: 03
          Ratmir I think that these airfields are also not a secret, and taking into account the current situation and those capabilities of Russia, Ukrainian aviation will also get there (I repeat it is about Ukrainian aviation).
    3. +11
      23 January 2022 13: 11
      No matter how hard the United States tries to convey the tactical situation, the Su-27 will practically not help.
      In practice, the pilot on the Su-27 simply does not have a tactical situation, the screen (IPV) is empty. Even under the Union, they tried to transfer data from the ground and between the sides, and even installed the appropriate equipment on board the Su-shek - TKS-2-27, but all this was never brought to mind. In practice, the aircraft is guided to the target either by voice over the radio or through the 11G6 equipment, where the given course, the given height and range to ONE target are transmitted on board, with an indication on the HUD.
      It's just the XNUMXth century, excuse me here, you can't jump over your head, especially with a mechanical plate under a cone.
      As a "police" car, to guard the borders in peacetime, the SU-27 is still quite itself, but as a military one in a big war it is outdated.
      1. 0
        25 January 2022 12: 08
        Well, why is it impossible to transmit data about a group of bombers or transport aircraft to a Su-27 pilot by voice?

        You can, you can raise the plane after receiving intelligence and attack those targets that can be shot down with impunity, or using several fighters to ambush Russian fighters.

        During the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea, Su-27s intercepted MiG-29s using ground-based radar data and shot them down in combat.

        I don’t think that Ukrainian pilots can do anything at all.
    4. +5
      23 January 2022 13: 12
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      and this is quite enough to create at least problems in the air for the Russian Aerospace Forces.

      In the event of real hostilities, square fighters will not bring any problems for the Russian Aerospace Forces. A no-fly zone will be introduced, and then, if something has time to take off, it will be quickly neutralized within half an hour, the rest will be disposed of directly at the home airfields. The Su35 doesn't even need to be uncovered.
    5. +2
      23 January 2022 13: 18
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Russia still has about 70 Soviet-built Su-27s in service, and they are still in operation.

      12 new-built fighters in the guise of Su-27SM(3) were built at KnAAZ in 2010-2011 under a 2009 contract (from the backlog of Su-27SK not delivered to China).

      in 2014, two Su-27SM(3) were handed over, upgraded on a trial basis from combatant Su-27P.

      as a result, in 2015, a contract for the modernization of 36 combatant Su-27s followed, according to which only 4 aircraft were modernized.

      It turns out that there are about 16 Su-27SM (3) in service, the most modern of the Su-27 family.
    6. 0
      23 January 2022 22: 29
      And they won’t break their teeth about the SU-34?
      This is me about the comment "ratmir_ryazan": "It is very possible that the Ukrainian Air Force will avoid a collision with the Su-35, but at the same time attack the Su-24/25/34 and ground targets."
    7. 0
      24 January 2022 07: 58
      How will Soviet-assembled Ukrainian Su-27s attack ground-based cast iron? Or do they have a wide variety of guided weapons and upgraded equipment for the use of guided weapons?
    8. 0
      24 January 2022 08: 03
      and the range of the R-27R is such that the Buk overlaps twice, and you also need to keep the target in capture before hitting (but this is not accurate)
      1. 0
        25 January 2022 12: 14
        The R-27 is also available with a thermal seeker and in an anti-radar version.

        To attack an air defense system, knowing its location, you can approach it at a low altitude, fire missiles and leave. They can also attack air targets.
        1. 0
          25 January 2022 19: 55
          it’s possible, but not on the Soviet-assembled Su27 and with the same missiles, how far do these missiles and radars fly for these Su27s, what is the capture range, the anti-radar R-27, and also not the Kh-31 P.
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  14. 0
    23 January 2022 12: 25
    They would have compared Sherman with Sheridan and marveled at the superiority of one over the other.
  15. HAM
    +5
    23 January 2022 12: 34
    From all these comparisons, it just comes through: "yes, attack at last! take Ukraine back on your neck again. We are tired of feeding them, otherwise we will have to feed them later!" ... the yankers of the "partners" surrender in advance. ..... and how they want to play off all the same, exposing Ukraine to be completely weak!
  16. 0
    23 January 2022 12: 39
    Yes, for the Ukrainian Su-27, no aircraft from Russia pose a threat, Russia is not going to attack!
    Western journalists are already laughing about this.
    Russia's conquest of Ukraine will greatly weaken the Russian economy, as even the Americans cannot feed them!
  17. +6
    23 January 2022 12: 56
    And on the Ukrainian Su-27 there is an option to "instantly defect to the side of the enemy", but this is a secret function and the West does not know about it.
  18. +2
    23 January 2022 12: 57
    On a military forum, does it seem strange to someone that the article mentions a Su-35 with an AESA radar? :)
    1. +5
      23 January 2022 13: 36
      does it seem strange to someone that the article mentions the Su-35 with the AESA radar? :)

      And what's the point of fighting journalists? Managers, creative, security guards and so on have become familiar. Active electronically scanned array (AESA) is simply the common English name for such locators. And there are many such "newspeaks".
      "Radar" became Russian, although there was always a radar. "Pilots" appeared in the Air Force, although there have always been pilots (and this is exactly what the position was called). There was never "avionics", but there was REO and AO. The letter designations of the ranges (L. X, etc.) were not used, but along the transparency windows 9 cm, 3 cm, 8 mm ...
  19. Hey
    +1
    23 January 2022 12: 59
    ... Ukrainian aviation will avoid open clashes with Russian aircraft, shifting the vector to strikes on the ground.

    Meanwhile, Russian fighter aircraft will "play the fool."
  20. 0
    23 January 2022 13: 10
    Here are the fellows in the American edition. You can also compare t72 with t 34 and draw a conclusion.
  21. 0
    23 January 2022 13: 11
    A foundation stone has been laid for the future NATO country to sell defective F-35s. Now only aliens can stop the Americans.
  22. -1
    23 January 2022 13: 20
    [The Su-35 radar detects targets at a distance of 400 km, while the Su-27 radar can only detect an enemy aircraft at a distance of 80 km. ]

    And they will put 27 radars on entire Su-5s from their stolen Su-27s, here you have 400 km laughing
  23. +3
    23 January 2022 13: 25
    The very first problem that the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will face is gravity. I am sure that 100% aircraft have huge limitations in terms of flight operating parameters - angles of attack, overloads, etc. They most likely can only fly in a straight line without sharp maneuvers due to the fatigue of the airframe structure. And talking about the filling is completely meaningless.
  24. -3
    23 January 2022 13: 34
    what The old Soviet Su-27s were compared with the Russian Su-35s. The question is "what the hell?". It seems that to gain height on these old men is a hero, to sit down is a lucky man, to perform other evolutions, consider an extreme player.
  25. -4
    23 January 2022 13: 35
    Comparing the videoconferencing with balloon aviation is nonsense. Not a supporter of hats, but still, not seriously.
  26. 0
    23 January 2022 13: 40
    Well, a comparative analysis by the Americans was published not for objectivity, but in order to pit Russians against Russians.
  27. 0
    23 January 2022 13: 47
    Careful maintenance is needed for equipment, and this is money that the filthy rulers stole. Yes, and with the mind they are not friends at all.
  28. -2
    23 January 2022 14: 42
    What is there to compare. Ukraine 25 years only plundered by local oligarchs. Defense was not among their top ten priorities at all. Complete degradation, in 2014 some "volunteer battalions" went to fight for their country.
  29. 0
    23 January 2022 15: 23
    >Hibny-M
    Here you should have Khibiny.

    >simulated collision of Russian Su-35s with American fighters
    And here, probably, there should be Ukrainian fighters?
  30. +2
    23 January 2022 15: 43
    Frenzied experts again rushed to compare x ... bolt with a tram handle.
  31. +1
    23 January 2022 22: 37
    As my instructor said, if the enemy praises you (on the air), then check again the equipment, weapons, and action plan.
  32. +1
    23 January 2022 22: 44
    In addition, I think Russia would be grateful if Ukrainian pilots flew their Su-27s and MiG-29s to Russian airfields and asked for political asylum. Why die guys, they still fly and fly. But already in the Russian Aerospace Forces.
    1. 0
      24 January 2022 13: 07
      Why die guys, they still fly and fly. But already in the Russian Aerospace Forces.

      Those. in 2014-2015 they bombed their people, and now you also offer them to fly our planes over our heads? Good line of thought.
      1. -1
        24 January 2022 13: 48
        Those who bombed have a surname, rank and location. FSB will check. Don't exaggerate.
        1. 0
          24 January 2022 23: 04
          Those who bombed have a surname, rank and location. FSB will check. Don't exaggerate.

          And all the combatants bombed and stormed, now they walk like heroes, veterans.
    2. 0
      24 January 2022 23: 05
      if Ukrainian pilots flew their Su-27 and MiG-29 to Russian airfields

      If they fly, then to Polish, Romanian, but not to us.
  33. 0
    24 January 2022 10: 35
    The payroll of the Su-27 of Ukraine and those on combat duty .. which can not only carry out a combat mission .. but at least just fly are two different things. therefore, in real life, there are 5 Su-27s if there are enough workers, and that’s good.
    1. 0
      24 January 2022 13: 08
      therefore, in real life, there are 5 Su-27s if there are enough workers, and that’s good.

      Well, they restored the airworthiness of many aircraft, now they have more working machines.
  34. 0
    24 January 2022 13: 05
    Although the publication believes that Ukrainian aviation will avoid open clashes with Russian aircraft, shifting the vector to strikes on the ground.

    How is she going to avoid it? Fly in a state of invisibility? Or will they be able to strike "on the ground" outside the zone of military air defense? Maybe they also fly to Moscow to bomb, there they still have some bombers left.
  35. 0
    24 January 2022 17: 57
    I think that it is unlikely that at least one plane will be allowed to take off, but even if that one takes off, about half of them will definitely pre-release
    on the side of Russia
  36. 0
    27 January 2022 11: 45
    Hephaestus and cast iron will do the main work on the ground