Causes of the US attack on Vietnam

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"I just tremble for my country when I think that God is just" -
US President Thomas Jefferson


In the second half of the XIXth century, Vietnam became a colony of France. The growth of national self-awareness after World War I led to the creation of the Vietnam Independence or Viet Minh League for 1941 in China - a military-political organization that united all opponents of French power.

The main positions were held by supporters of communist views under the leadership of Ho Chi Minh. During the Second World War, he actively collaborated with the United States, who helped the Viet Minh with arms and ammunition to fight the Japanese. After the capitulation of Japan, Ho Chi Minh captured Hanoi and other major cities in the country, proclaiming the formation of an independent Democratic Republic of Vietnam. However, France did not agree with this and transferred the expeditionary force to Indochina, launching the colonial war in December 1946. The French army was unable to cope with the partisans alone, and from the year 1950 they came to the aid of the United States. The main reason for their intervention was the strategic importance of the region, which protects the Japanese islands and the Philippines from the southwest. The Americans decided that it would be easier to control these territories if they were under the rule of the French allies.

The war went on for the next four years and to 1954, after the defeat of the French in the battle of Dienbienfu, the situation became almost hopeless. The United States by this time already paid more than 80% of the costs of this war. Vice President Richard Nixon recommended the use of bombardment with tactical nuclear warheads. But in July 1954, the Geneva Agreement was concluded, according to which the territory of Vietnam was temporarily divided along the 17 parallel (where there was a demilitarized zone) to North Vietnam (under the control of the Viet Minh) and South Vietnam (under the rule of the French, who almost immediately granted it independence ).



In the US 1960, John Kennedy and Richard Nixon participated in the fight for the White House. At this time, the fight against communism was considered good form, and therefore the contender won who had a program to combat the "red threat" was more decisive. After the adoption of communism in China, the US government considered any events in Vietnam as part of communist expansion. This was impossible to prevent, and therefore, after the Geneva agreements, the United States decided to completely replace France in Vietnam. With the support of the Americans, the Prime Minister of South Vietnam Ngo Din Siem declared himself the first President of the Republic of Vietnam. His rule was tyranny in one of the worst forms. Only relatives were appointed to government posts, whom the people hated even more than the president himself. Those who opposed the regime were imprisoned, freedom of speech was prohibited. It is unlikely that it was to the liking of America, but that just will not close your eyes, for the sake of the only ally in Vietnam.

As one American diplomat said: “Ngo Din Ziem is certainly a son of a bitch, but he is OUR son of a bitch!”


The emergence on the territory of South Vietnam of underground resistance units, not even supported from the North, was only a matter of time. However, the USA saw only the machinations of the Communists in everything. Further tightening of measures led only to the fact that in December 1960, all the South Vietnamese underground groups merged into the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam, called the West Vietcong. Now and North Vietnam began to support the partisans. In response, the United States has strengthened military aid to the Zhem. In December 1961, the first regular units of the US Armed Forces arrived in the country - two helicopter companies, designed to increase the mobility of government troops. American advisers trained the South Vietnamese soldiers and planned combat operations. The administration of John F. Kennedy wanted to demonstrate to Khrushchev their determination in the destruction of the “communist contagion” and their readiness to defend their allies. The conflict grew and soon became one of the "hottest" hotbeds of the cold war of the two powers. For the United States, the loss of South Vietnam led to the loss of Laos, Thailand and Cambodia, which threatened Australia. When it became clear that Ziem was not able to effectively deal with the partisans, the American special services, by the hands of South Vietnamese generals, organized a coup. 2 November 1963, Ngo Dinh Ziem, along with his brother, was killed. Over the next two years, as a result of the struggle for power, another coup took place every few months, which allowed the partisans to expand the occupied territories. At the same time, US President John F. Kennedy was assassinated, and many lovers of the "conspiracy theory" see this as his desire to end the war in Vietnam by peaceful means, which someone did not like very much. This version is plausible, in the light of the fact that the first document that Lyndon Johnson signed as the new president was the sending of additional troops to Vietnam. Although on the eve of the presidential election, he was nominated as a "candidate of peace", which affected his confident victory. The number of American soldiers in South Vietnam has grown from 760 in 1959 to 23300 in 1964.



2 August 1964 in the Gulf of Tonkin two American destroyers, Maddox and Turner Joy, were attacked by the forces of North Vietnam. After a couple of days, in the midst of confusion in the command of the "Yankees", the destroyer Maddox announced the re-shelling. And although the crew soon denied the information, intelligence said it was intercepting reports that North Vietnamese had admitted to attacking. The US Congress, by voting on 466 with votes “for” and not a single “against”, adopted the Tonkin resolution, which gives the president the right to respond to this attack by any means. This marked the beginning of the war. Lyndon Johnson gave the order to inflict airstrikes on the naval facilities of North Vietnam (Operation Pierce Arrow). Surprisingly, the decision to invade the United States in Vietnam was made only by civilian leadership: Congress, President, Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara and Secretary of State Dean Rask. The Pentagon reacted without enthusiasm to the decision to "resolve the conflict" in Southeast Asia.

Colin Powell, who was a young officer in those years, said: “Our military was afraid to tell the civilian leadership that this method of war leads to a guaranteed loss.”
American analyst Michael Desch wrote: "Unconditional obedience of the military to civilian authorities leads, firstly, to the loss of their authority, and secondly, it unties the hands of official Washington for further, similar to the Vietnamese, adventures."


More recently, a statement by independent researcher Matthew Aid, specializing in stories National Security Agencies (US intelligence and counterintelligence intelligence services) that key intelligence information about the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964 that caused the US invasion of Vietnam was fraudulent. The basis was a report by NSA historian Robert Heynok in 2001 and declassified on the basis of the Freedom of Information Act (passed by Congress in 1966). From the report it follows that NSA officers made an unintended error in translating information obtained as a result of radio interception. The senior officers, who almost immediately discovered the error, decided to hide it by correcting all the necessary documents so that they indicated the reality of the attack on the Americans. High-ranking officials have repeatedly referred to these false data in their speeches.



Robert McNamara, said: “I think it is wrong to think that Johnson wanted war. However, we believed that we had at our disposal evidence that North Vietnam was aggravating the conflict. ”


And this is not the last falsification of intelligence by the leadership of the NSA. The basis of the war in Iraq, lay unconfirmed information on the "uranium dossier." However, many historians believe that even if there were no incidents in the Gulf of Tonkin, the United States would still find a reason to start hostilities. Lyndon Johnson believed that America was obliged to protect its honor, to impose on our country a new round of the arms race, to rally the nation, to distract its citizens from internal problems.

When new presidential elections were held in the United States in 1969, Richard Nixon announced that the foreign policy of the United States would change dramatically. The United States will no longer claim the role of overseer and try to solve problems in all corners of the planet. He announced a secret plan to end the battles in Vietnam. This was well received by American society, tired of the war, and Nixon won the election. However, in fact, the secret plan was a massive application aviation и fleet. In 1970 alone, American bombers dropped more bombs on Vietnam than in the last five years combined.

And here we should mention another side interested in the war - US corporations that manufacture weapon and ammunition. In the Vietnam War, more than 14 million tons of explosives were blown up, which is several times more than during World War II in all theaters of war. Bombs, including high-tonnage and, now forbidden, fragmentary, equated whole villages with the ground, and the fire of napalm and phosphorus burned out hectares of forest. Dioxin, which is the most toxic substance ever created by man, was sprayed over the territory of Vietnam in quantities of more than 400 kilograms. Chemists believe that 80 grams, added to the water system of New York, is enough to turn it into a dead city. This weapon has continued to kill for forty years, affecting the current generation of Vietnamese. The profits of US military corporations amounted to many billions of dollars. And they were not at all interested in the quick victory of the American army. After all, it is no coincidence that the most developed state in the world, using the latest technologies, large masses of soldiers, winning all their battles, still could not win the war.



Presidential candidate from the Republican Party, Ron Paul said the following: "We are going to fascism, not of Hitler's type, but softer, as expressed in the loss of civil liberties, when corporations run the government and the government is in the same bed with big business."


In 1967, the International War Crimes Investigation Tribunal held two sessions, where testimonies on the conduct of the war in Vietnam were heard. From their verdict it follows that the United States is fully responsible for the use of force and for a crime against peace, in violation of established provisions of international law.

“In front of the huts,” recalls a former US soldier, “the old men were standing or squatting in the dust at the threshold. Their life was so simple, it all passed in this village and the fields surrounding it. What do they think of strangers invading their village? How do they understand the constant movement of helicopters cutting through their blue sky; tanks and half-tracked vehicles armed with patrols spanking through their rice fields where they cultivate the land? ”


US Armed Forces Vietnam War

"Vietnam War" or "Vietnam War" is the Second Indochinese War of Vietnam with the United States. It began around 1961 and ended on April 30 of 1975. In Vietnam, this war is called the Liberation War, and sometimes the American War. The Vietnam War is often viewed as the peak of the Cold War between the Soviet bloc and China, on the one hand, and the United States, with some of their allies, on the other. In America, the Vietnam War is considered the darkest spot in its stories. In the history of Vietnam, this war is perhaps the most heroic and tragic page.
The Vietnam War was at the same time a civil war between various political forces in Vietnam and an armed struggle against the American occupation.



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  1. vylvyn
    +12
    20 September 2012 09: 04
    The reason for the US attack on Vietnam (as well as Iraq and other countries that have good deposits of natural resources) is oil. The USSR helped Vietnam defeat the Americans and, after the war, gained access to the development of oil deposits. One of the leaders of our former Soviet oil industry told about this on TV. Everything rests on the economy and energy. When Americans think that they can plant a loyal regime in any country that turns a blind eye to their corporations pumping out anything of the least value from their country, they either bribe the right people or arrange a coup with a coup. Well, if the first two options do not roll - there remains a stupid direct intervention.
    At the same time, 3 birds with one stone are killed at once - the "correct" government is established in the country, access to natural resources is opened, the sales market for its goods is expanding (as with Iraq - they planted "faithful and loyal" people, pump oil for their strategic reserves, plus sell their own goods, especially weapons - re-equip the Iraqi army and police).
    1. YARY
      0
      21 January 2013 19: 57
      -Look at a pier! Osho swim alone!
      Well shit!
      And then I’ve even stole American wines!

      The abomination barks as it should bark. A film for internal crawling. And this "announcer" Topaller in one word.
  2. +16
    20 September 2012 09: 07
    It is strange, and why did the Vietnamese meet their liberators from the tyranny of communism with neither bread nor salt?
  3. +7
    20 September 2012 09: 15
    In the United States, corporations rule; the rich don't give a damn about ordinary American people! We need oil - we have been falsified and that’s the reason to invade, but ordinary citizens were told that they had to fight with the communists (as they always intimidated), spit on them and raised the grandmothers in the war producing a wide variety of weapons!
    1. Redpartyzan
      +4
      20 September 2012 09: 39
      But they washed their blood there and many regretted the falsification of the Tonkin incident.
  4. Samuraisinto
    -10
    20 September 2012 09: 19
    in Vietnam, weapons and the USSR and the people of the fighters sent China from China and China defeated India on its own by taking Tibet and this is not new in the history of Chin Giz Khan drew a military resource not in Mongolia where the steppe and tushkanchini are in southern China
    1. nmd_1
      +5
      20 September 2012 09: 47
      A set of phrases and beeches, statistics on the number of fought Chinese. The fighters were local, China supplied only military specialists, for example the same pilots, (officially) about 1 thousand people died. By the way, Tibet, China captured before the conflict with India. Vietnam successfully dealt with the Chinese invasion by militia forces. Yes, and the Hindus were not whipping boys, China did not defeat India but there were two border conflicts, not full-fledged wars, read history and do not write nonsense drinks
      1. Samuraisinto
        -1
        20 September 2012 10: 07
        Tibet-India didn’t intervene, is it not a victory? Anyway, if China captured Mongolia Russia did not intervene .... Oh, Mongolia 100 years ago there was Menshuria, a pro-Japanese state, Russia has nothing to do with it ... after 1949
        1. nmd_1
          +3
          20 September 2012 10: 57
          China, returned Tibet. The independence of Tibet (the last) lasted 38 years, from 1912 to 1950. If you still read the story, you will understand that the Tibetans themselves did not particularly resist, if only the monks, so why on earth did India have to go to conflict?
  5. +3
    20 September 2012 09: 23
    Amer mustache !! For the umpteenth time, they make hemorrhoids with their own hands, at the beginning they strongly support and arm such people like Ho Chi Minh, Bin Laden, the Taliban and many others, they themselves transfer technology, weapons, and then fight with them ...
  6. +2
    20 September 2012 09: 37
    yes, everything rests on loot ...
  7. Beck
    +5
    20 September 2012 09: 44
    The article says that the Americans got involved in Vietnam to secure Japan and the Philippines. Rave. Where is Vietnam and where is Japan. And who would attack Japan from this direction.

    The United States got involved because they had a doctrine at the time - the containment of communism. This doctrine was adopted, since after the Second World War communism was forcefully introduced into Eastern Europe. But Ho Chi Minh was a communist and distributor of communist ideas in Indochina.
    1. 0
      20 September 2012 19: 03
      Beck knows how to find the positive in everything. It turns out it's just a doctrine and that’s it. And the fact that they killed a huge number of people? The article says that there were amer bastards, there are bastards and bastards will remain !!!
    2. aviator46
      +1
      20 September 2012 22: 16
      + + + +
      Koment in a subject !!!
  8. wolverine7778
    +14
    20 September 2012 09: 55
    • 58,148 Americans were killed and 303,704 wounded out of 2.59 million employees in Vietnam.
    • The average age of those killed is 22.8 years.
    • 50,274 were drafted, the average age of the draftee was 22.37 years.
    • The middle infantryman in the South Pacific region during World War II saw about 2 days of fighting in 40 years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 4 days of fighting per year thanks to the mobility of helicopters.
    • The Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, and Thailand remained free from communism.
    • During the war, US government debt increased by $ 146 billion (1967-1973). Given inflation, in 1992 this would have been $ 500 billion.
    • 6,598 served in officer ranks, with an average age of 28.43 years.
    • 91 percent of veterans are proud to have served in Vietnam.
    • 74 percent said they would serve again, even knowing how it would end.
    • 1,276 served as Warrant Officers (NCO), average age 24.73 years.
    • 11,465 were under 20 years old.
    • From 1957 to 1973, the National Liberation Front destroyed 36,725 South Vietnamese and kidnapped 58,499. Death Battles aimed mainly at leaders — school teachers and petty officials.
    • Number of killed North Vietnamese - from 500,000 to 600,000. Victims: 15 million.
    • One out of every 10 Americans serving in Vietnam suffered. Despite the fact that the percentage of those killed is approximately equal to the similar percentage of other wars, amputation and deforming injuries were 300 percent higher than in the Second World War. 75,000 Vietnam Veterans Disabled
    • The Tet offensive in 1968 was a major defeat for the National Liberation Front and the Viet Cong.
    • 2/3 of the employees in Vietnam were volunteers; 2/3 of those serving during World War II were called up.
    • 8 nurses died, 1 killed in battle.
    • Vietnam veterans make up 9.7% of their generation’s Americans.
    • The suicide rate of veterans is 1.7% and corresponds to the same indicator of the entire generation.
    • Non-hostile deaths: 10,800
    • Missing: 2,338
    • Number of deaths under the age of 21: 61%
    • 3,403,100 (including 514,300 offshore employees) personnel served at the South Asian Theater of War (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, flight crews based in Thailand, and sailors in waters adjacent to South China).
    • 240 people were awarded the Medal of Honor during the Vietnam War.
    • Prisoners of war: 766 (114 died in captivity).
    • 7,484 American women served in Vietnam. 6,250 were nurses.
    • 9,087,000 served in active military service during the official Vietnamese period (August 5, 1964 - May 7, 1975).
    • Losses from enemy actions: 47,378
    • 23,214 are paralyzed; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081 suffered multiple amputations.
    • Married killed: 17,539
    • Vietnam's highest political post: Vice President Al Gore.
    • The most successful veteran businessman to date is Frederick Smith (Federal Express).
    • 79% of employees in Vietnam had a secondary education or higher upon admission to the service.
    • 5 sixteen year olds killed in Vietnam.
    • The oldest killed - at the age of 62.
    • 11,465 killed were under 20.
    • 50,000 people served in Vietnam from 1960 to 1964
    • Of the 2.6 million, 1–1.6 million participated in close combat or were subject to regular attacks.
    • Peak troop strength: 543,482 (April 30, 1969)
    • Total Draftees (1965-1973): 1,728,344
    • Draftees accounted for 30.4% (17,725) of those killed in battle
    • National Guard: 6,140 served; 101 dead
    • Last drafted: June 30, 1973
    • 97% of Vietnam veterans were demobilized with honor
    1. Zmitcer
      +1
      20 September 2012 13: 16
      Quote: wolverine7778
      74 percent said they would serve again, even knowing how it would end
      in America, only 16% of normal people (non-morons) ?????
      how can you kill so many millions of people just because they don’t like communism .....? !! I wrote 16% because I am sure that 10% of Americans do not know about this war. wink
    2. +1
      20 September 2012 14: 55
      It is worth noting that of the 58000 dead, 11000 died in non-combat situations
    3. +3
      20 September 2012 16: 10
      Quote: wolverine7778
      74 percent said they would serve again, even knowing how it would all end.


      Quote: wolverine7778
      75,000 Vietnam Veterans Disabled.


      Quote: wolverine7778
      Enemy Losses: 47,378
      • 23,214 are paralyzed; 5,283 lost limbs; 1,081 suffered multiple amputations.
      • Married killed: 17,539

      What is it like ? belay


      Quote: wolverine7778
      • Number of killed North Vietnamese - from 500,000 to 600,000. Victims: 15 million.

      That is, these stubborn, old-fashioned Amer Nazis, once again would like to ditch 15 000 000 people?
      where are the firewood from? in the sense of the source of these statistics?
      1. 0
        21 January 2013 23: 53
        Quote: Karlsonn
        That is, these stubborn, old-fashioned Amer Nazis, once again would like to ditch 15 000 000 people?

        Losers in the war always want to replay it.
    4. Petrospek
      0
      21 September 2012 11: 01
      Interesting statistics. thank
  9. +4
    20 September 2012 11: 28
    I strongly advise young site visitors to watch the movie "Apocalypse Now". Only until the end. This is the truth about this war.
    1. Samuraisinto
      0
      20 September 2012 11: 35
      Do you remember the film, the matrix is ​​all an illusion created by the machines, and then the directors, how was it !? I don’t believe anything - a quote from the ancient Russian annals, one prince went to another war and got lost in the forests, then they were dense and engaged in the divine trade mushrooms were collected .. . Having returned home, will he really tell the truth !?
    2. +2
      20 September 2012 14: 57
      Yes, there is no global truth about the war. There is a certain vision of her, moreover, according to the book "Heart of Darkness", which has nothing to do with Vytenam. Apocalepsis today used a fashionable theme to convey certain ideas of the director. It is necessary to watch the film. But to perceive it as a kind of TRUTH is hardly. As well as "Platoon", however
      1. Zmitcer
        +3
        20 September 2012 17: 00
        The whole truth about the Vietnam War in Hotheads. fellow
  10. Samuraisinto
    0
    20 September 2012 11: 37
    Bugor,
    Do you remember the film, the matrix is ​​all an illusion created by the machines, and then the directors, how was it !? I don’t believe anything - a quote from the ancient Russian annals, one prince went to another war and got lost in the forests, then they were dense and engaged in the divine trade mushrooms were collected .. . Having returned home, will he really tell the truth !?
    1. 0
      20 September 2012 13: 23
      Honestly, I don't understand what you mean. The "Matrix" is from a completely different world.
      Don't like "Apocalypse" - see "Platoon". The theme is the same. Less atrocities ...
      1. Samuraisinto
        0
        20 September 2012 20: 03
        a film based on the stories of a warrior and they will put it mildly to make bloodsucking
      2. +1
        3 January 2014 16: 21
        Quote: Bugor
        Don't like "Apocalypse" - see "Platoon".
        Smrotrel both. If in the first one the quite expected underground from Francis Ford Coppola performed by Marlon Brando, then the second is a very clumsy attempt to at least somehow brighten up the depressions that the Americans created in Vietnam. Both have nothing more to do with the truth about the war than the latest crafts of Mikhalkov.
  11. +7
    20 September 2012 12: 12
    As one of the politicians used to say: Americano-Vietnamese won the war the USSR.
  12. Ferrum_34
    0
    20 September 2012 12: 20
    irony of fate, but the Vietnamese are now more loyal to the amers than the Russians ... all the money ... the money
    1. +1
      20 September 2012 18: 34
      No need to mix politics and relations between nations.
      In general, between states, in contrast to interpersonal relations, it is "rationality" and not "emotion" that rules.
      Vietnam's geopolitical opponent in the region is China. In turn, the United States is China’s adversary. That's the whole layout.
      Although .., Vietnam is trying to pursue a cunning multi-vector policy.
  13. 0
    20 September 2012 12: 29
    The reason for the attack on Vietnam was not Uncle Ho's communism, but the loss of face for the fathers of the Democrats. Some Vietnamese expelled the French from this attempt on the whole world free from conscience. In the first sense, the national liberation war needed Vietnamese communism to get help from the USSR.
    1. Beck
      +1
      20 September 2012 19: 59
      Apro.

      Respected. America has always opposed classical colonialism. After the Second World War, the USA distributed money to countries affected by the war according to the Marshall plan. Holland began to spend part of the money received on restoring its colonial rule in Indonesia. (To send troops to Indonesia). The United States protested and turned the issue of money. Only then did Holland recognize the independence of Indonesia.

      And the doctrine of containment of communism acted. And the United States did not want to expand the influence of communism anywhere in the world.
  14. Zmitcer
    0
    20 September 2012 13: 10
    The Americans with their "policy" have repeatedly stepped on the same rake. They probably have no saying about the rake. Everything is clear with Vietnam, but you can also remember Afghanistan, where our guys fought. At first they also supplied the Mujahideen with weapons, and now they thank them too. It seems that wars for America are: "just business and nothing personal." This saying is their favorite.
  15. 0
    20 September 2012 16: 18
    All wars, it’s all waged "... for gold and land .." there is not a single moral principle justifying the beginning of a war. All the reasons come up with little people who want either wealth or power, and more often both! If you look at Afghanistan and the Caucasus, everything is not so beautiful here either ...
    soldier
    1. +1
      20 September 2012 16: 55
      And you can expand: for which
      Quote: OLDTODD
      "... for gold and land .."
      did we fight in Afghanistan?
      or another question - World War II, are they also for gold and land?
      or let’s say - Italian and Swiss campaigns of Suvorov, what kind of gold and which lands did they bring to us?
      Sorry, but such generalizations, as it were, are softer, they are about nothing and out of place. hi
      By the way, a few facts from the whole list:
      - 1854 - Americans destroyed the Nicaraguan city of San Juan del Norte (Greytown), so they avenged the insult of the American;
      -1898 - American-Spanish War. US troops recapture the Philippines from Spain, 600.000 Filipinos killed. American President William McKinley announced that God had ordered him to seize the Philippine Islands in order to convert their inhabitants to Christianity and bring them civilization. McKinley said he spoke to the Lord as he walked down one of the corridors of the White House at midnight. The reason used by America to start this war is curious: on February 15, 1898, an explosion occurred on the battleship Maine, she sank, killing 266 crew members. The US government immediately blamed Spain. After 100 years, the ship was raised, and it was discovered that the ship had been blown up from the inside;
      - 1947 - 1949 - Greece. American troops participate in the civil war, supporting the fascists. Under the pretext of "defending democracy" the United States is interfering in the holding of the first general parliamentary elections in Italy, introducing warships of the 6th operational fleet into Italian ports in order to prevent the coming to power of the Communist Party by peaceful means.
  16. +4
    20 September 2012 17: 24
    I began to watch the attached film, it’s a complete dump of my head, the templates begin to tear from the fourth minute, it turns out the war between Vietnam and the SGA was unleashed by the communist regime of Vietnam, they say the abomination of communism is an abomination everywhere ... further: - if you want, you can call these (communist bandits) call - partisans (thanks for allowing).
    Vague doubts torment that further the gap of patterns will go like an avalanche fellow .
  17. +2
    20 September 2012 17: 58
    I could not watch this Ameru order, discussing the decisions taken by the leadership of the SGA, the host says, - we decided belay Is he a citizen of the SGA?
    The abundance of his epithets in the comments is as follows:
    -... Ho Chi Minh - a puny little man with a goatee ...;
    -... it is obvious that stopping the communist infection ...;
    -... these thugs are Viet Cong ...;
    completely discourage the desire to watch.
    I’m not sure what prompted the author of the release to attach a film to the article, whose full name is as follows:
    - American educational program: US Armed Forces - Vietnam War.
    belay belay belay
    author. What did he want to acquaint us with the point of view of the State Department, which was announced by grand hirelings? what is this movie for?
    1. 0
      20 September 2012 18: 42
      Quote: Karlsonn
      I could not watch this Amer’s order, discussing the decisions taken by the leadership of the SGA, the host says, “we decided he is a citizen of the SGA?”


      Karlsonn to you + !! We are simultaneously almost Unsubscribed about this! drinks
      1. +2
        20 September 2012 20: 05
        Northerner drinks I tried to squeeze my teeth out of entomological interest - I couldn’t, I even couldn’t save a pre-stocked basin, apparently the author of the video somewhere dug up RVTi belay and creates while working out Amerov’s grandees am .
        1. 0
          20 September 2012 23: 14
          I don’t understand what hurt so? One of the parties seems to be fighting for ... for gold and land .. "
          And the topic of Afgan, a rather sad page in Soviet history, perhaps "gold and land" can be seen as the promotion of socialism throughout the world. But, our guys were put under this skating rink for what? And I repeat ANY war in the threshing floor ...
          I do not blame anyone, much less justify. You only answer me, you seriously think that from wolverine7778100% true moral freaks and killers?
          request
          1. Lech e-mine
            0
            21 September 2012 03: 33
            the last seconds of LIFE of a Vietnamese officer of the puppet army kills him without trial
            1. Beck
              0
              21 September 2012 09: 33
              Definitely not sure. But the killer is not just an officer, but one puppet dictator, South Vietnam, seems to be Nguyen Van Thieu. In those days, there was a lot of noise in the world press about this murder.
  18. +2
    20 September 2012 18: 40
    Through strength, I was able to watch until the end of these 2 attached 22-minute videos and I want to say that this man with a beard pi ** r ending ** yy !! Such nonsense carried !! In this video, the whole essence of Ova necromancy in relation to all other subhuman people as they call us !! I’m scared to imagine what would happen if people like this liar gray-bearded were aired in our country! Damn him, because with our education system and a gap in the 90s, there will be a whole herd of tolerant fans!
  19. +4
    20 September 2012 19: 03
    Beck knows how to find the positive in everything. It turns out it's just a doctrine and that’s it. And the fact that they killed a huge number of people? The article says that there were amer bastards, there are bastards and bastards will remain !!!
    1. Beck
      +2
      20 September 2012 21: 15
      Kuhoo.

      Dear, what are you doing. After all, I talked about the REASON of involving the USA in the war.
      And the fact that the people were killed in darkness is a fact. Vietnam losses on both sides since 1941 are second only to the Second World War. In other conflicts since 1945, there were no such victims anywhere.
      1. Lech e-mine
        0
        21 September 2012 03: 25
        CIVIL POPULATION WERE NOT REVAINED THE LITTLE SUSPICION and, at best, burned the Vietnamese home.
    2. Lech e-mine
      0
      21 September 2012 03: 29
      a typical picture of the Vietnamese war - fighters for the freedom of the Vietnamese (ha ha) drag the body of the Vietnamese to the base.
  20. Vitalievich
    +1
    21 September 2012 00: 59
    I thought for a long time - whatever comment to leave ... And then I went to YouTube ..
    and just copied one of the many reviews ...)



    "Wicked little man with a goatee." ?! You bastard do you know what kind of person he was in life ?! You, goose, have the face of a typical Jew, that's why you spit saliva, American puppet! First of all, he is the PATRIOT of his country, he fought for his people, for his family, for his Motherland. You, a Jew snot, are not worth the soles of his shoes !!!! You pour mud on him, you whore !!!!!!!!!

    Beriya50 2 weeks back

    I completely agree with this comment!
    1. 0
      21 September 2012 02: 56
      Quote: Vitalievich
      .You, snot Jew, do not stand and outsole of his shoes !!!

      this is in my bust.
      1. Lech e-mine
        +1
        21 September 2012 03: 21
        the outcome of the war - the presence of foreign troops in a foreign land does not lead to anything good.
    2. Lech e-mine
      0
      21 September 2012 03: 23
      and so the dead soldiers of the American army were evacuated from the jungle of VIETNAM.
  21. Lech e-mine
    +1
    21 September 2012 03: 19
    Vietnamese beat Americans in spite of all their technical advantage.
    1. +1
      21 September 2012 03: 51
      If the will of the people is present, then it is invincible!
      In the photo: A group photo of the command staff of the Poltava partisan formation named after Molotov.

      The partisans are armed with Soviet submachine guns PPS-43, PPSh and captured German MP-40.
    2. Beck
      +1
      21 September 2012 09: 25
      Two and in history they have never been beaten.

      The people are small, frail, but with a great will to win and personal courage and courage.

      In ancient times, the Chinese tried to conquer Vietnam - they could not. The Mongol khan seems to Munch organized two combined arms campaigns on Vieinam and was beaten twice. By the way, Russian warriors also participated in one of these campaigns. The campaign was combined arms and troops gathered from all over the empire. And only in the second half of the 19th century, due to technical lag, Vietnam became a colony of France. But he fought and won.
  22. Alex 241
    +2
    21 September 2012 03: 22
    This once again confirms that people cannot be defeated, even with a technical advantage.
    1. 0
      1 October 2012 16: 49
      Quote: Alex 241
      people cannot be defeated, even with a technical advantage.


      But a pancake can be defeated by degradation, debauchery, substitution of values ​​.... and many themselves will be happy to degrade watching TNT, chewing sneakers, cheap action movies and listening to the fables of the newly-minted "historians" and absorbing megalithres of beer not to think about anything ((((( (

      I hope everyone understands what I mean!
      1. Samuraisinto
        0
        1 October 2012 17: 23
        the shit goes from the west and the east is forbidden - the dock does Chinese music play? English current on the radio ((((((
  23. 0
    16 December 2012 21: 04
    This film is pro-American misinformation. In every word of the leading pathos and fascism .... A film for "washing" the brain. Another thing is interesting. If the film were in English, everything would be clear: the education of patriotism among young Americans, etc. What is the weight of this verbal feces in Russian? And not yet translated ...
  24. +1
    3 January 2014 16: 34
    Thanks to the author. The entire chronology of this barbaric war is summarized.
    The Vietnam War for people of my generation is a harsh truth in life. Few of us had schoolchildren who did not empathize with Vietnamese children. And Simonov's film "There is no such thing as someone else's grief" tore his soul to pieces ...
  25. 0
    13 September 2014 12: 02
    time goes on, politics does not change, only the scene and the actors change - which means that there really is a force that organizes all wars just for the sake of war. Dill 2014 is a prime example.