"Will fly to Tehran and back": Israel Air Force F-16s shown with large outboard fuel tanks

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F-16 fighters of the Israeli Air Force were shown on social networks with unusual large-size outboard fuel tanks (PTB). These aircraft take part in the international Blue Flag maneuvers in the Negev desert with the participation of a combat aviation USA, Germany, France and Great Britain.

This is reported by the online edition "The reporter", including referring to publications in the official accounts of the IDF.



It is noted that the Israeli Air Force used its F-16s with the same huge PTB during air raids on the positions of pro-Iranian armed formations operating in the territories of Syria remote from the borders of Israel. For example, in the province of Aleppo.

Since such tanks can hold large volumes of fuel, the range of an aircraft with such a "makeweight" increases several times (in this case, threefold). On the other hand, their use negatively affects the speed, maneuverability and other technical characteristics of the fighter.


One of the users of the social network VKontakte noted that the aircraft with the PTB is becoming more visible to enemy radars and less maneuverable, that is, more vulnerable. And it will take much less payload than an aircraft with standard fuel tanks.


Opinions are expressed that Tel Aviv is preparing to strike precisely Iran and, in particular, its nuclear facilities. After all, an attack on Syria, Lebanon or the Gaza Strip does not need so much fuel, but with such tanks the F-16 will fly to Tehran and back.

Israel's preparation for the use of aviation against Iranian nuclear facilities was reported the other day by the Israeli information resource The Times of Israel. The journalists of this publication note that Israeli pilots are preparing for an attack on Iran both during exercises and during military operations against pro-Iranian groups in Syria.

It is extremely important for Israel today to make every effort to prevent the emergence of a nuclear weapons, because for Israel it is an actual existential threat. At the same time, Iran is unlikely to tacitly observe how Israel is preparing for a possible military operation.
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  1. +2
    27 October 2021 15: 44
    "Will fly to Tehran and back": 


    On account of the fact that back, I would not say so categorically.

    Iran's air defense is at a fairly high level and it is not a problem for Iran to shoot down the F-16.
    1. +7
      27 October 2021 16: 01
      No one knows where it is and at what level ...
      1. -3
        27 October 2021 18: 42
        Quote: Zaurbek
        No one knows where it is and at what level ...

        ========
        In fact, many experts consider Iran the fourth country in a row (after the USSR / RF, USA and China), "... withable to create a truly effective air defense system, which includes all the necessary means - anti-aircraft missile systems of short, medium and long range, a developed grouping of radio engineering forces and modern centralized automated control systems. Of course, the Iranian air defense system is powerful enough and capable of confidently solving the tasks of airspace defense against air strikes from neighboring countries..... "
        The armament is rather motley: Russian (S-300-PMU2, Buk, Tor-M1), Chinese HQ-7, own: Bavar-373, 15th Khordad, Talash, 3rd Khordad, Mersad-16. (albeit modernized) Soviet, American and Chinese-made systems The exact number is difficult to determine (a very "closed" country).
        1. +2
          27 October 2021 19: 31
          Well Thor's shooting showed skill
          1. -1
            27 October 2021 20: 15
            A Boeing plane created in the United States, like a transponder on it, was created in the West, if the West is able to turn off the gas equipment sold to Gazprom remotely and even the equipment of the Venezuelan hydroelectric power station, then we can at least assume that the United States deliberately staged this provocation - by blocking the operation of the transponder. And because of this, the passenger plane on the SAM monitors appeared as an unidentified target and was immediately shot down.

            But this is only a version, but a fact - Iran shot down the American strategic unmanned vehicle RQ-4 Global Hawk using a new Iranian-developed air defense system.

            As soon as the American UAV violated the border, it was immediately shot down.

            So, Iran is doing well with training and air defense systems and they know that Israel can strike and are preparing for this.
            1. 0
              23 February 2024 19: 03
              The RQ-4 is not a super difficult target for air defense, except at high altitude. He is slow and does not maneuver. Shoot as much as you want, if in your airspace.
              The work of the responder does not in any way affect the downing of an air defense aircraft. Only dispatchers need a responder. Air defense monitors using primary means. In the case of the Ukrainian Boeing, there was a 100% air defense jamb, and not of a specific crew, but of the entire network, most likely due to the low qualifications of the personnel.
        2. 0
          23 February 2024 19: 15
          Air defense positions will definitely be reconnoitered before the operation, and then they will either be bypassed or taken out at the first stage of the operation.
    2. +9
      27 October 2021 16: 04
      Where did they get their air defense at a high level? Everything is very old and backward. Copies of air defense 50 years ago
      1. -10
        27 October 2021 17: 02
        And what type of air defense algorithms have changed a lot in 50 years? Nothing new has been invented. So, in little things, tunable frequencies, so it is available to the Iranians.
      2. +6
        27 October 2021 17: 33
        You are clearly not in the subject. Educate yourself!
      3. +1
        27 October 2021 21: 24
        Quote: Roman1970_1
        Everything is very old and backward.

        S-300 PMU?
        Copies of the S-300 joint with China?
        Buk-M2 and its Iranian counterparts, one of which shot down the Global Hawk?
        There are also many old ones - S-200, S-125 and even S-75.
        But with combat aircraft ... sad.
    3. -10
      27 October 2021 16: 05
      I would say with kosher fuel tanks ... laughing
      1. +5
        27 October 2021 16: 38
        Something tells me that these are refueling fighters. With such PTBs, he simply will not take weapons with him. PTB weight, fuel weight.
        1. -1
          28 October 2021 01: 17
          With such PTBs, he simply will not take weapons with him.

          Well, he can't do that yet. Look on top of the overhead conformal.
          Jews will calm down only when the Chinese need Iran. But they have already settled there, side by side in Afghanistan. Narrow-eyed people are stomping slowly to the oil. laughing And they love Jews to the point of aching teeth - they have all been killed.
          1. +3
            28 October 2021 02: 53
            Quote: dauria
            And they love Jews to the point of aching teeth - they have all been killed.

            Do not write nonsense.
            https://lechaim.ru/news/rasshirennyj-muzej-shanhaya-podcherkivaet-rol-kitaya-kak-ubezhishha-vo-vremya-holokosta/
            1. 0
              28 October 2021 04: 19
              Do not write nonsense.

              Oh well. These guys are squeezing outsiders out without any fuss. They will show themselves yet, do not worry. A Chinese man remains Chinese even in the United States.
              According to Z. Agranovsky, the size of the Jewish community in Harbin was as follows: in May 1949 - 1,9 thousand - 2 thousand, in 1951 - less than 700 people, in June 1955 - 380 people, as of January 1 1958 - 189 people, as of April 1, 1962 - 48 people. [10] These figures show that the large Jewish community of Harbin by 1962 practically ceased to exist. A similar fate was for Jewish communities in other cities of the People's Republic of China.

              Well, in Hong Kong, they took root a bit. 6000 for 2002.
              1. +2
                28 October 2021 14: 17
                The Jewish community of Harbin consisted of White emigrants. May 1949 - the bulk has already dumped to Israel (independence - May 1948), the rest (mostly elderly people) left as the business was expropriated by the Communists, etc. The Hong Kong community is made up of European Jews who have lived there for generations.
    4. 0
      27 October 2021 16: 24
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      On account of the fact that back, I would not say so categorically.
      laughing laughing laughing
      But "Shahab-3" never and under no circumstances return. They always have one-way tickets. lol Still, you have to give them a knee! Necessary!Taki straight on the "Iron Kumpol". laughing laughing laughing
    5. +7
      27 October 2021 18: 04
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Iran's air defense is at a fairly high level and it is not a problem for Iran to shoot down the F-16

      The downed Ukrainian liner is an example of this.
      1. +1
        27 October 2021 20: 17
        The downed Ukrainian liner is an example of this.


        In 1988, an American cruiser, while in Iranian territorial waters, shot down an Iranian civilian Airbus A300 flight 655. 290 people were killed, including more than 60 children.

        And such an example to you?
        1. +3
          27 October 2021 21: 38
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          And such an example to you?

          So it seems that Iran is not going to bomb, but not the United States.
    6. -4
      27 October 2021 18: 18
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      "Will fly to Tehran and back": 


      On account of the fact that back, I would not say so categorically.

      Iran's air defense is at a fairly high level and it is not a problem for Iran to shoot down the F-16.

      I join too! Iran these years, too, did not sit idly by, and Shoigu recently announced a rapprochement with Iran in military cooperation .. I am sure they have surprises!
    7. +4
      27 October 2021 21: 15
      Well, no problem for you. For Tehran, there may be a problem, because everyone who is not too lazy to jam them.

      Additional tanks are not needed to attack Iran. Do not confuse photos from international exercises with real preparations. And let's not forget that 30 years ago Israel destroyed the Iraqi reactor in Osirak without any tanks, satellites and electronic warfare. Without stealth and modern Iraqi air defense for those times.
    8. Maz
      -7
      28 October 2021 10: 24
      This option, when the F-16 will fly over and bomb something in Tehran, is only possible if Russia "closes its eyes" with its radars - both in Syria and in the Mediterranean, and in the Urals. Because such an operation is impossible without the preliminary suppression of Iranian air defense systems and the use of electronic warfare, which immediately increases the number of aircraft involved at times and contributes to the rapid detection of the Israeli bustle around the Iranian borders ... So, either Bennett will fly to Moscow again to bow to our President , or the Israelis will nevertheless be taken down from the sky, so that it would not be appropriate to do what the East does without the Kremlin's consent.
      the Americans please ...
      1. +2
        28 October 2021 14: 20
        to Moscow to bow to our President

        Your president, a gentleman under the name MAZ, is in Jerusalem. sad
  2. +12
    27 October 2021 15: 49
    Can you imagine what a howl would go up if the Iranian Ayatollah showed pictures of the Iranian plane with the statement: "Now it will fly to Tel Aviv"?
    1. +1
      27 October 2021 16: 17
      One problem, they don't have planes
      1. +1
        27 October 2021 21: 16
        You are funny. Those. have you heard about Osirak?
    2. +3
      27 October 2021 18: 33
      They regularly present different missiles with a range that is more than enough to reach Israel, no howling
    3. +2
      28 October 2021 02: 55
      Quote: Nafanya from the couch
      Can you imagine what a howl would go up if the Iranian Ayatollah showed pictures of the Iranian plane with the statement: "Now it will fly to Tel Aviv"?

      They regularly state this about their missiles.
  3. 0
    27 October 2021 15: 56
    I have always wondered how it happens, there are never any third countries in these plans. But Israel will have to fly through Jordan, Iraq, and this practically means that it is dragging them into the war against Iran. Israel does not take their opinions into account?
    Is it not easier to come to an agreement with the Americans, they and the AUG will provide and cover if anything, say that the Jews fought for peace?
    1. +4
      27 October 2021 16: 00
      Iraq need not be asked ... there is a treaty with Jordan
      1. -1
        27 October 2021 16: 01
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Iraq need not be asked ... there is a treaty with Jordan

        Decent logic, and who else can you not ask?
        1. +8
          27 October 2021 16: 02
          The Americans did not ask the USSR until the U-2 was shot down ... the USSR did not ask Israel when the MiG-25 flew over it ...
        2. +1
          27 October 2021 20: 50
          It will provide Saudi Arabia with the tankers for a good cause.
      2. +1
        27 October 2021 21: 17
        To catch Shiites and new friends in the UAE and the KSA will fit. And no one will ask Abdullah 2.0.
    2. +1
      27 October 2021 16: 05
      I think that Iraq will not be asked, and Jordan will give permission to fly
    3. +3
      27 October 2021 16: 06
      Iran is Shiites. Jordan is Sunni. Iraq is now what is what is not. And you don't have to fly through Jordan. They can through Saudi Arabia.
      1. +18
        27 October 2021 16: 34
        The Saudis will be happy to pass.
        And more aerodromes can give a jump.
        For the Saudis, Iran is an even greater threat than for Israel.
        1. 0
          27 October 2021 17: 14
          What if it happens, as in a song-

          Mishka is tormented by the question:
          Who here is the enemy mysterious?
          And the answer is terribly simple -
          And the only answer.
          I'm fine. Pah-pah-pah.
          Bear drinks the damned
          He says that for the graph
          Not allowed - the fifth.
          laughing
        2. +3
          27 October 2021 19: 01
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The Saudis will be happy to pass.

          And from the airfields of the jump from Azerbaijan, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain F-35 for hacking air defense and targeting?
        3. -3
          28 October 2021 01: 37
          The Saudis will be happy to pass.
          And more aerodromes can give a jump.

          Wake up, children of Israel ... Are you blind, or something. China rushes dry to Arabian and Iranian oil. Afghan is already under them quietly. And this is Kandahar, Bagram, Herat. And then Iran, the Gulf and you, dear ones, find yourself in the very middle of a dog wedding in the war between the United States and China for the only decent source of oil on the planet.
          You do not need to fight Iran, but drag it away from China towards the United States. If you don't want to see your ass in a generation.
          1. +6
            28 October 2021 09: 09
            "You don't need to fight Iran," ///
            ----
            You're right. Israel had good relations with Iran before the Islamic Revolution. We need radical Islamists to leave. And then there will be peace.
            Israel and Iran have no disputes.
            But if radican Shiites receive atomic weapons, then all the countries of the Persian Gulf will not seem a little. And not only to them.
            Therefore, we must somehow take care that
            Islamist Iran did not have an atom.
  4. +4
    27 October 2021 15: 59
    Iran can show its MRBMs and announce that they have conventional warheads and they hit for sure. The attack on the American military base in Iraq showed this. This will cool the fervor of the hawks from Israel. Israel is an industrialized country and there are many vulnerable targets for 200-500kg warheads with conventional filling.
    1. +7
      27 October 2021 19: 28
      Quote: Zaurbek
      The attack on the American military base in Iraq showed this. This will cool the fervor of the hawks from Israel.

      Israel is still better at dampening its ardor.
      I want to remind you.
      On May 9, 2018, Iranian Quds forces released from Syria about 20 missiles at Israel... In response to these missiles, the Israel Defense Forces launched strikes on dozens of military targets in Syria that belonged to Iranian Quds forces. Among the targets were Iranian intelligence facilities, the Quds Force logistics headquarters, the Iranian military complex in Syria, as well as observation and military posts.

      On January 20, 2019, Iranian Quds forces fired an Iranian-made missile from Syria at a civilian ski resort in northern Israel. The Iron Dome air defense system successfully intercepted the missile before it could harm civilians. In response, on January 21, 2019, the Israel Defense Forces struck targets of Iranian Quds forces in Syria. Strikes were struck at munitions storage facilities, a military complex at Damascus International Airport, an Iranian intelligence facility and an Iranian military training facility.

      And this explanation was understood correctly. Israel has a much shorter fuse than the Americans.
      1. -2
        27 October 2021 19: 30
        Iran is territorially not Syria ... and the MRBM is not Katyusha missiles
        1. +2
          27 October 2021 20: 48
          Quote: Zaurbek
          Iran is not territorially Syria

          This is exactly what Israel is striving for, whatever it is there.
          Quote: Zaurbek
          ... and MRBMs are not Katyusha missiles

          For information, it is much easier to shoot down an MRBM than a Katyusha.
    2. 0
      27 October 2021 21: 18
      Note, a blow to the previously announced and evacuated base. They are not the same thing. This is called "face saving datt".
      1. 0
        27 October 2021 22: 24
        You cannot evacuate a country and enterprises…. Airports too. And the overcoming of missile defense is decided by the amount of ammunition per target. And BROTHER hit the objects on the base quite accurately. Now imagine an oil and chemical plant, a desalination station, etc.
  5. -10
    27 October 2021 16: 03
    Jews docks in the air war. In principle, it is impossible to shoot down an Israeli pilot, so I hope that the Jews will succeed and bury Iranian nuclear ambitions forever (I would like to believe that together with a significant part of the top). Because an Islamic country should not possess nuclear weapons, it has not matured politically.
    1. +12
      27 October 2021 16: 09
      Right! Nuclear weapons must be possessed by the "right" countries - such as Israel wink
      1. 0
        28 October 2021 13: 17
        Israel has no nuclear weapons. Who told you such nonsense? Yes
    2. +2
      27 October 2021 16: 13
      Quote: Basarev
      Because an Islamic country should not possess nuclear weapons, it has not matured politically.

      Pakistan owns. And Iran will be somehow quieter than Pakistan.
      Although the proliferation of nuclear weapons does not add peace of mind.
      1. +4
        27 October 2021 16: 20
        Pakistan does not threaten to wipe anyone off the face of the earth. In general, Pakistan is much quieter than Iran.
        1. +2
          27 October 2021 16: 26
          Quote: Roman1970_1
          In general, Pakistan is much quieter than Iran.

          Is this a joke?
          Quote: Roman1970_1
          threatens to wipe someone off the face of the earth

          In addition to threats, were there any attempts?
          1. +2
            27 October 2021 23: 43
            What else is needed to try? Are you generally a sane person? If there were attempts, today on the site of Tehran there would be a glass desert, and the whole of Iran would resemble a lunar landscape.
            1. +1
              28 October 2021 08: 04
              Quote: Orakul2000
              What else attempts are needed? Are you generally a sane person?

              Those. Iran did not try to destroy Israel? Is Israel killing Iranian scientists in Iran and Iranian military in Syria? What did you ask about sanity? Could Iranian threats be a response to Israeli actions?
              1. +1
                28 October 2021 13: 45
                Somehow your chronology is lame, my friend.
      2. -7
        27 October 2021 16: 26
        Right! Nuclear weapons must be possessed by the "right" countries - such as Israel

        Israel can. Israel does not seek to exterminate neighboring peoples to the last person simply out of natural malice. Israel is not obsessed with religious fanaticism enough to make it a state ideology and put it ahead of any law. Israel has never even unleashed an aggressive war. He is an island of secularity and benevolence in the sea of ​​Islamic macrobes. I am on the side of Israel, if only because there a girl will not be stoned for a short skirt, and men are not obliged to wear a beard. And besides, Israel has a truly adorable national policy that I fully approve of. If Russia cared for Russians in the same way, it would have already overcome the monstrous demographic gap.
        Pakistan owns. And Iran will be somehow quieter than Pakistan.

        I do not forgive Pakistan either. The bomb should be removed from him, too. And it is better in neighboring India, China and the DPRK. I see the ideal nuclear club - the USA, Russia, Britain, Israel and France as the most cultured, scientifically developed and civilized countries in the world. Also, if you think about it, you can give official permission to Japan and Germany, they are also quite peaceful and responsible for such a matter. If you carry out an enormous amount of work on the actual reconquista, then South Africa can be allowed, if you do not allow blacks to the economy and politics. I believe that South Africa can still be saved, but only by the most effective, most ferocious measures. In fact, apartheid in South Africa has no alternative.
        1. +4
          27 October 2021 16: 44
          Israel can.

          At the moment, Israel is killing foreign scientists, bombing objects on the territory of another state, supporting militants in Syria ... for me, the most common escalation of the conflict, don't you think? good
          Israel has never even unleashed an aggressive war

          But he does it now wink What's most interesting is that events such as massive attacks on infrastructure tend to keep the preparation secret rather than trumpet at every corner. Those. Israel cannot attack and declare war on its own - hands are short, but provoke - quite. I do not condemn, politics is a dirty business ... but to justify themselves ... the Nazis also hung all the dogs on everyone (not only on Jews), justifying themselves.
          1. +2
            27 October 2021 20: 22
            I do not condemn, politics is a dirty business ... but to justify themselves ... the Nazis also hung all the dogs on everyone (not only on Jews), justifying themselves.

            Why should Israel justify itself? We must wait until the Iranians sponsoring the shelling of the Israeli civilian by Hamas and Hezbollah will also make nuclear weapons for themselves laughing
            Or enable their proxies to establish themselves not only in Lebanon, but also in Syria? What is what, and the Israelis do not suffer from masochism
            1. 0
              27 October 2021 20: 35
              Why should Israel justify itself?

              How does Israel get along with Saudi Arabia? Despite the fact that the Saudis finance the Muslim Brotherhood, which controls Hamas. It turns out to be a funny situation, a Hamas militant in Palestine is an enemy, a Hamas militant in the Syrian Free Army (mostly controlled by the "Brothers ...") is a friend.
              1. 0
                27 October 2021 21: 08
                How does Israel get along with Saudi Arabia?

                The SA does not develop weapons of mass destruction, the SA does not have hours of countdown to the destruction of Israel, the Saudis do not send their instructors to train Hamas, etc.
                1. 0
                  27 October 2021 21: 15
                  CA does not develop weapons of mass destruction

                  They don't need it, because you (Israel) have one main ally - the United States. The SA "only" pays for the activities of the Muslim Brotherhood organization, while Hamas uses this money to buy weapons, pay for the work of instructors, and much more.
                  1. +3
                    27 October 2021 21: 21
                    Not only the SA, also Qatar, and also Iran.
                    If we are talking about Hamas. And about the friendship of the United States with Israel - thanks to Khrushchev and Brezhnev for close military cooperation with the Arabs. Yes Without him, Israel to the States of FIG would have fallen.
              2. +6
                27 October 2021 22: 16
                "Despite the fact that the Saudis finance the Muslim Brotherhood, who control Hamas" ////
                ---
                It was like that at one time. This has now changed.
                The Saud made up with the Egyptian military authorities and stopped funding
                Muslim Brothers. The Muslim Brotherhood is not funding Hamas today.
                This role was taken over by Qatar, the adversary of Saudi Arabia.
        2. +7
          27 October 2021 17: 07
          Quote: Basarev
          Also, if you think about it, you can give official permission to Japan and Germany, they are also quite peaceful and responsible for such a matter.

          the peacefulness of Japan and Germany cost the world a mere trifle.
          several tens of millions of lives.
        3. +5
          27 October 2021 17: 10
          Quote: Basarev
          I see the ideal nuclear club - the USA, Russia, Britain, Israel and France as the most cultured, scientifically developed and civilized countries in the world.

          how cute
          and also the cultural and civilized countries of the Benelux
          well, I just want to give each one a nuclear bomb
          and Switzerland! this is the pearl of European civilization.
          weigh three ... no, four
        4. AUL
          +1
          27 October 2021 18: 05
          Quote: Basarev
          If a tremendous amount of work is done on the actual reconquest, then South Africa can be allowed, if the blacks are not allowed to the economy and politics.

          And why is South Africa a bomb? Who threatens her so that she can’t do it without nuclear weapons?
          And about Japan, I would abstain in that sense. There is now such hysteria around the northern territories that you can expect everything from them!
        5. 0
          28 October 2021 06: 28
          Oh how! The perfect nuclear club from countries that have unleashed two world wars! ?? Are Japan and Germany Peaceful? Keeping blacks out of the economy ... Is that what you still have in your head? You are only here that you have written more or less permissible, in your thoughts you have already shot all the bearded, black and quick-eyed
    3. 0
      27 October 2021 16: 30
      Quote: Basarev
      Because an Islamic country should not possess nuclear weapons, it has not matured politically.

      Then Pakistan is next? If you use your logic.
    4. +1
      27 October 2021 16: 41
      WAY WAY WAY !!!! What a couch warrior.
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        1. -2
          27 October 2021 19: 55
          If Israel does not kill and bomb

          If this is an example of Israeli state policy, is it any wonder Iran's desire to create nuclear weapons?
          At the moment Israel is one of the strongest powers in the region, an ally of the only superpower on the plan - the United States, has no common border with Iran, actively supports the so-called "Arab NATO". That is, the likelihood of a high-intensity conflict initiated by Iran is near-zero. wink
          1. +3
            27 October 2021 21: 43
            That is, the likelihood of a high-intensity conflict initiated by Iran is near-zero.

            But still not zero. Considering the intensity of passions in those parts and how little prudence is in the minds of Islamic leaders, even a 3% probability is almost equivalent to 100%. This means that Iran should be Lebanese, not leave a stone unturned. Only then the likelihood of a conflict due to his stupidity will be firmly zero, when the Iranian tribes will never again be able to turn their spears towards Israel. A firm peace in the Middle is possible when Israel becomes the only and indisputable pole of power in those parts. In any case, there can be only one master in the region, and in no case do I want a macro-power regime of the ayatollahs to rule there. Tehran must be destroyed.
    5. 0
      27 October 2021 23: 24
      I am like a woman, like a mother to you, Arseny will tell you ...
      your motive categorically does not pull on big politics, it is at the level of Biba's selling "the level of Stitch's anger" at the UN. With such uncomplicated directness, it will not be possible to find a solution to a complex issue.
      If Iran signs a new version of the treaty with the United States, will you eat your bowler hat? And everything goes to that.
      What has been injected into the media may be the other side of the bargaining. This is all much more real because it is cheaper both in money and in reputational costs compared to a military operation.
      1. 0
        28 October 2021 08: 28
        If Iran signs a new version of the treaty with the United States, will you eat your bowler hat? And everything goes to that.

        It is not enough to sign, it is also important to observe. And given the rather primitive mentality of Iran, compliance is possible only with strict supervision - one of the best options I see is the option of Operation Consent, only this time not to leave so quickly. And to stay this way for 50 years. In order to be born, grow old and die a generation that did not know any other life, except for totalitarian control and instant harsh punishments for any disobedience, I will not object even to those who are exceeding and preemptive, it is not worth showing softness where it is considered a weakness ... This is how to educate a disciplined and emphatically secular population, ready at last for a dialogue with the countries of the XXI century. And only when the locals come to power, whose discipline and pro-Westernness (Russia is also the West for Iran) do not raise doubts - only then will it be possible to withdraw the occupying contingent. Iran does not need patriotic statesmen; it needs Westerners who are ready to ruin their country in a Baltic and especially Khlamin manner for verbal approval. However, this whole scenario is long and costly. So far, to accomplish the current task, a valiant raid will be enough to smash all Iranian nuclear facilities into dust, without regard to collateral damage.
        1. 0
          28 October 2021 15: 48
          I understand correctly that you consider it possible to re-educate the Persians with fifty years of an occupation regime? Oh wei ...
          If Bidon has time to sign, then Iran will be the most punctual performer, although what exactly will be written, maybe like with a shipping company - painting the hull from one side. Why? Yes, because they need nuclear weapons to gain immunity, and not to waste their image by attacking the fagot capital Mizrah HaTikhon. Another thing is that our general staff + small cabinet are not ready to bet on politics and I understand them. The mice are no longer far away ...
          But it is equally likely that the Beadon will not have time and the global world will split into factions and small / proxy wars will become everyday life. And if the Aza sector can be crushed, then will the loose society withstand the war of attrition in the north (your pizza will not be delivered, we are sending a new messenger, now wearing a helmet)? To re-enter Lebanon? .. oh well nah, this project did not have and now there is no productive outcome. Roughly speaking, the estimate of tens of thousands of civilian casualties and thousands of soldiers is a completely new / old war for the renewal of the independence of the state. Do we have an essentially important idea for maintaining integrity (against the backdrop of the collapse of the foundations of the global project) ??
          Shl, I once again propose not to take seriously the reason that led to the publication of photos and seething on the Internet. Israel has long been adept at information warfare, deliberately working on a game of reason. I would not be surprised if the Blue Flag was used as pressure on Iran, but interaction was practiced in conditions close to ... Saudi. The coast must remain tradeable, and the strait navigable. On this "kolitka" Israel has already pissed a pillar and left its eyes on the fence.
          1. +2
            28 October 2021 15: 55
            And you can do the same, but in five words. And then you are either this .. or you are a chat bot. good
            1. -1
              28 October 2021 19: 45
              ya is unique 8) you can say a neural network, and not just there, as usual
  6. 0
    27 October 2021 16: 04
    And what about the adirs with conformal tanks? Are they already flying?
    1. +1
      28 October 2021 14: 55
      Quote: Ashes of Klaas
      And what about the adirs with conformal tanks? Are they already flying?

      If you are interested in this question, you can read here.
      https://theaviationist.com/2021/04/25/f-35i-fuel-tanks/
    2. +1
      28 October 2021 15: 00
      So full of information .. Where and when applied. On the tasks set or performed, it is probably not difficult to come to some conclusions. And at the expense of the fuel tanks too.
  7. +2
    27 October 2021 16: 06
    "Will fly to Tehran and back": Israel Air Force F-16s shown with large outboard fuel tanks

    What can we expect while sitting on the bench? I remember how long it took to negotiate the supply of S-400 to Iran and what actually happened.
    Apart from bitterness and regret from the development of events, there is nothing in this way ...
    1. -1
      27 October 2021 16: 29
      Naked oversized tanks at the refueller Sarah in the photo! fellow
      1. 0
        27 October 2021 21: 11
        That's not good!
        I quickly scrolled through the article to the beginning, with surprise that I did not notice such technical details, of course, only to check the objectivity of your information, and there Sarah has her back!
        1. -1
          28 October 2021 01: 06
          and there Sarah is standing with her back!

          Lower your back and look - conformal tanks, some more. laughing
      2. +2
        28 October 2021 13: 52
        This is far from a tanker.
  8. -3
    27 October 2021 16: 10
    Will fly to Tehran and back
    I will say in the words of one famous philologist: there may be, but not only everyone will be able to return, or rather, few people will be able to))
    1. 0
      27 October 2021 17: 55
      "a rare bird will fly to the middle of the Dnieper ..."
  9. -1
    27 October 2021 16: 10
    Something painfully familiar, this ass is familiar to me, the last time she was really a blonde. But the ass is the same, unambiguously. wassat
  10. 0
    27 October 2021 16: 17
    but with such tanks, the F-16 will fly to Tehran and back.

    Will fly to Tehran, but back? Great question.
    Since 1981, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge and Iran is not as defenseless as it used to be.
    Bombing Iranian ichtam not in Syria and bombing Iran is not the same thing.
  11. +2
    27 October 2021 16: 27
    it is strange that in the pictures of f-16s, Israel usually uses f-16i for strikes on eemla, so it looks like this is not for Iran, but for some very long patrol, or rather it is not at all clear why
    1. +4
      27 October 2021 18: 56
      Quote: Talon
      it is strange that in the pictures of f-16s, Israel usually uses f-16i for strikes on eemla, so it looks like this is not for Iran, but for some very long patrol, or rather it is not at all clear why

      I'll try to explain.
      These F-16Is with these tanks hit the Syrian nuclear reactor, so this is not new.
      For Iran, it can only come up as a second wave, for the destruction of military facilities after the F-35 destroys the air defense and opens the passage and guidance to the destruction targets.
      But to destroy a nuclear reactor in a concrete bunker deep in the ground, you need a GBU-72 bomb, which Israel does not have today. There is experience of using GBU-28 which open tunnels in Gaza. These special attack profiles were passed on to the United States Air Force, which just recently announced the successful completion of a series of GBU-72 tests proving that the weapon could be successfully fired from an F-15 fighter.
      It is possible that Israel will receive this bomb in the near future.
  12. +1
    27 October 2021 16: 31
    The F-16I also has conformity, so this is not the limit. While on the other hand it reduces the bomb load
  13. +11
    27 October 2021 16: 43
    Quote: ROSS 42
    "Will fly to Tehran and back": Israel Air Force F-16s shown with large outboard fuel tanks

    What can we expect while sitting on the bench? I remember how long it took to negotiate the supply of S-400 to Iran and what actually happened.
    Apart from bitterness and regret from the development of events, there is nothing in this way ...
    You could not remember this, then it was about the S-300 wink

    The appearance of nuclear weapons from Iran is unprofitable for us as well as Israel. Unlike Israel, we are just a stone's throw from Iran, and it already has missile projects with a range approaching 6000 km. The presence of nuclear weapons in Iran will allow it to come close to our borders through the Transcaucasia, which at one time was for the most part its territory, Azerbaijan is especially problematic in this light, since the north of Iran is nothing but South Azerbaijan, and about 40% of the population of Iran, plus, traditionally, for the most part, the army, the spiritual leader of Khamenei, are all ethnic Azerbaijanis.

    Many of us do not understand that modern Iran is not Persia at all. The use of Farsi as the state language is misleading. Basically, this is a state, later an empire, created by some Turks, known to us as Azerbaijanis, in opposition to other Turks, known to us as Turks. Globally, the whole difference between them is adherence to various branches of Islam - Shiism and Sunnism, plus what kind of related Turkic tribes were included in this or that nation. Although, for example, among the same Azerbaijanis there are Sunnis, and among the Turks there are Alawites.
    Therefore, for example, Syrian Turkomans are not Turks, but Azerbaijanis, like Iraqi Turkomans. The same is about the Afghan and Pakistani Turks, with the exception of the Uzbeks and Turkmens, the rest are descendants of the Kyzylbash, again known to us as Azerbaijanis. The name Kyzylbashi was given to Azerbaijanis because of a turban characteristic of Shiites with 12 red stripes in honor of Shiite imams.

    And all of this will suddenly receive nuclear weapons? !! Then we will definitely not get off with fruit and vegetable bases alone ... and with your logic, we must help them avoid an Israeli Air Force strike by installing the S-400 and so on ...
    Cross yourself.
    1. Bat
      +6
      27 October 2021 17: 22
      Quote: Azimuth
      Many of us do not understand that modern Iran is not Persia at all.

      Thank you, Lord, is it possible that someone wrote about this! +

      Quote: Azimuth
      plus what specific kindred Turkic tribes were included in this or that nation.

      Yes, quite a few Turkic tribes live in Iran. Qashqai, Kyzylbash and so on ...

      Quote: Azimuth
      And all of this will suddenly receive nuclear weapons? !! Then we will definitely not get off with fruit and vegetable bases alone ...

      Wait a minute. Iran during the Shah (by the way, also an ethnic Azeri) had excellent relations with Israel. The current FARS are Sufis and the same Ayatollah. I do not know how these mullakrats became Azerbaijanis.
      1. +1
        28 October 2021 11: 06
        Quote: Yarasa
        Quote: Azimuth
        Many of us do not understand that modern Iran is not Persia at all.

        Thank you, Lord, is it possible that someone wrote about this! +

        Quote: Azimuth
        plus what specific kindred Turkic tribes were included in this or that nation.

        Yes, quite a few Turkic tribes live in Iran. Qashqai, Kyzylbash and so on ...

        Quote: Azimuth
        And all of this will suddenly receive nuclear weapons? !! Then we will definitely not get off with fruit and vegetable bases alone ...

        Wait a minute. Iran during the Shah (by the way, also an ethnic Azeri) had excellent relations with Israel. The current FARS are Sufis and the same Ayatollah. I do not know how these mullakrats became Azerbaijanis.

        Your nickname "Yarasa", as I understand it, is in honor of a certain special unit of your intelligence, presented in a farce called the victory parade in Baku. In short, you are an Azerbaijani. Since you don't know your history, someone should know it at all, isn't it?

        Azerbaijanis live in Iran, if we use the definition of Stalin I.V. or Turkmans, Turks as they call themselves. Apparently you do not know the self-name of your nation. Kyzylbashi is not a Turkic tribe.

        From the time of the Safavids, that is, the State of Kyzylbash, whose capital was in Tabriz, and later in Isfahan and up to the Islamic Revolution, what we call Iran was ruled by Azerbaijani dynasties. Only once did a dynasty of Kurds come to power, while the state was still more Isalam, i.e. religious rather than monarchical and nationalistic. Precisely nationalistic, because the Azerbaijanis have always and in everything infringed on the rights of not only adherents of other religions, but also nationalities, with regard to farces they simply pursued a policy of genocide, and the Armenians also got it. A unique fact for a Muslim country, when the Muslim farces were equated in rights with the infidels, the Christian Armenians, the same policy was carried out in relation to the representatives of the Caucasian peoples, who were also Muslims.

        The Qajar dynasty and Reza Pahlavi, who overthrew it, are ethnically Azerbaijanis. Khamenei is an Azerbaijani, a native of Tabriz, that is, after the Revolution, the Azerbaijanis again saddled power in Iran, and despite the attempts of Islamic theologians to avoid the dictatorship of another Azerbaijani through the creation of a supreme council, Khamenei was able to destroy all their plans and take power into their own hands.

        You, Azerbaijanis, constituted the majority of the population in Iran until the Russian Empire established the border along the Araks, taking over all your khanates and the Georgian kingdom. With the loss of lands and population on them, mainly Azerbaijani, you began to be inferior in number to the farso-speaking peoples of Iran.

        In principle, with the collapse of the Russian Empire, in addition to the problem of Crimea, there was always the problem of the northern regions of Azerbaijan, this is the place where you live, apparently. That is, there was a risk of Azerbaijanis returning to their state - Iran. And this is and posed a threat to the entire region.
        Azerbaijani Iran was the most aggressive state in the region, and the current one is not a gift either. Entering into an alliance with England, he repeatedly started wars both against us and against the Ottoman Empire, therefore, the arrest of the northern part of Azerbaijan was welcomed and was in the interests of all countries in the region.

        Many people here do not understand Turkey's attention to the former Azerbaijan SSR. In addition to going through its territory to Central Asia and other cliches and blah-blah, the Turks fear the return of these territories to Iran and its strengthening. In words, love is understandable - carrots, but unlike you, the Turks remember their history. For centuries, the Azerbaijanis have been a nail in the fifth point of the Turks, wars were constantly going on between you, the Turks interrupted or abandoned their campaigns to the west, took Tabriz and Tehran, like Napoleon Moscow, but then over and over again were forced to leave and sign peace treaties, which subsequently constantly violated by the Azerbaijanis. The Turks found themselves in an even worse position when England took hold in the region and began to arm the Azerbaijanis - after defeats in the west and losses of territories, the Ottoman Empire began to be constantly attacked by the Qajar State - Iran. In principle, the war with the Russian Empire was lost by Iran only because at that moment the main forces of the army, not without the influence of England, fought with the Turks, as a result of which the Turks suffered a number of major defeats. The Azerbaijanis calmed down only towards the end of the 19th century, after the Battle of Erzurum, when, after defeating the Turkish army and, as usual, arranging atrocities against the surviving Turks, they signed an agreement with Turkey and established the border dividing Kurdistan.

        Now find and show me that fool who will give you nuclear weapons? Okay, Israel, but I repeat, neither Russia, nor Turkey, nor other neighboring states need this for a hundred years.
        We talked a lot under the US withdrawal from Afghanistan about the fact that no one has ever been able to capture it - this is not true. It was captured by the Azerbaijanis and held for more than one hundred years, having reduced the population several times ...

        Only Khamenei will have nuclear weapons, this is the return to them of the northern territories, that is, the former Azerbaijan SSR, it is not for nothing that he calls it the Baku province, the loss of part of the territories by Georgia, the disappearance of Armenia, territorial claims to us about Derbent, the loss of part of the territories by Afghanistan, Iraq, problems from Turkey. So now everyone will support Israel, Azerbaijanis are not only a problem of our markets and drug trade, but also a problem of regional security and stability.
  14. +4
    27 October 2021 16: 44
    What is this fake news and fake photo. The Israelis use only f-16Is in combat operations with comfortable fuel tanks and a two-seater cockpit. The link on "Vkontakte" is of course very cool! laughing
    1. +3
      27 October 2021 23: 54
      Most likely, F-16s with red barrels play the role of Russian / Chinese, then bish in r and e with x planes in some kind of international exercises. To destroy a remote target, whether in Iran, Iraq, or elsewhere, of course, aircraft with conformal tanks will be used, and air refueling will also take place.
  15. +2
    27 October 2021 16: 56
    So let us admire the girl, even though she is not a face to us, but the girls are sometimes even good! Better to look at this than at war.
    1. +1
      27 October 2021 17: 57
      sure, otherwise it will suddenly turn around and ruin everything
      1. +2
        27 October 2021 21: 38
        Quote: novel xnumx
        sure, otherwise it will suddenly turn around and ruin everything

        Yes, there is a bomb in the back, in front - the consequences of the bombing))
        1. +2
          28 October 2021 09: 10
          ours to you! hi what if there is a fairytale fairy in front?
          1. +1
            28 October 2021 09: 41
            Good hi Then, according to the classics:
            “Selyanka! Do you want big and pure love? " (with)
            1. +1
              28 October 2021 09: 42
              Well, what kind of villager is she? Officer go, rude, but ...
              1. +1
                28 October 2021 09: 50
                Grade A Technician, according to the lettering on the back. Sergeant. Discharger, however. Possibly kibbutznitsa Yes
    2. +2
      28 October 2021 15: 13
      Quote: Moskovit
      So let us admire the girl, even though she is not a face to us, but it is even good for girls sometimes!

      So this is not a question, you can expand it.

      And this one, a combat pilot, comes from PETERSBURG.

      Captain S., the only female pilot in Israel to fly the F-35, was appointed deputy commander of 116 Squadron F-35 Southern Lions, 26 years old.
  16. +2
    27 October 2021 16: 56
    Quote: Roman1970_1
    I think that Iraq will not be asked, and Jordan will give permission to fly

    The Iranians are hastily deploying their air defense systems in Syria and Iraq. So they won't ask about Iraq - it depends on whom.

    In the photo in the article F-16 without comfortable tanks on the fuselage, perhaps this is precisely what caused the need for huge outboard tanks. In any case, there can be no question of flying back and forth on outboard tanks, fighters may have to engage and maneuver, which is unrealistic with such suspension tanks.
    Israel is not able to destroy everything and everyone in Iran with conventional weapons - the air defense and the air force in the first place. This means that there remains only a strike specifically against the objects of the nuclear and missile programs. But in this case, one raid is not enough, even if Israel raises all its air forces and uses atomic bombs.
    So, in any case, Israel will use airfields next to Iran, this is Azerbaijan and the Arabs. Hence, by the way, the recent tension in relations with Azerbaijan and the hasty construction by the latter of "international airports" in the recently liberated territories. Our Turkish partner Erdogan flew to one of these just yesterday ...
  17. -2
    27 October 2021 16: 59
    "...and back". Yes, they are optimists.
  18. +7
    27 October 2021 17: 05
    This is my personal opinion, but Israel will not do ANYTHING. Why? Because they show and speak a lot. And when they do something they don't say ANYTHING about it. They never warn. They struck, and then MAYBE admit that it is them. By the way, a perfectly reasonable approach. Why warn the enemy? From Israel, they will still show the F-16s hung with PTBs or comfortable fuel tanks, and strike the F35mi. Let the enemy reconnaissance look at how openly "prepare for a strike" the F16x squadron, and the blow will be delivered by the wrong squadrons.
    As for the Iranian air defense. Here it is necessary to look not at the Iranian air defense but at the electronic warfare of the Israeli Air Force. Well, let's say there is Iranian BUK, well, they both have a Hawk, and Krotal's options. And this is the 80s.
    Nobody will sign for Iran. Neither China nor Russia. As long as Israel talks and shows a lot, they will not do anything, bluff. And if they decide, they will strike quietly, perhaps on some Islamic holiday, without warning, and maybe I don't even admit that it is them.
  19. +6
    27 October 2021 17: 30
    Why are they red, these tanks?
    What would not miss?
    1. +5
      27 October 2021 18: 25
      This is the so-called. a "red squadron" of very experienced pilots, playing as the opponent of the "blue" in the ongoing international exercise "Blue Flag 2021" in Israel. Tanks possibly allow the duration, continuity and sequence of training tasks by participants, there are about a hundred of them ... takeoff and refueling squadrons over the sea, off the coast, and on the way ... Dumping of tanks near the Iranian border between the Kurdish Erbil and Sulaimaniyah. (this is one of the techniques and routes ...) For the F-15I F-15 "Baz" and F-35, the combat radius is even greater. Armament and tanks on external suspensions, tested on an experimental F-35I, there is a photo ... Refuellers, their own or "friendly", as a rule, insure on the return route, you never know where you had to spend money ... IMHO.
  20. -2
    27 October 2021 17: 56
    I remembered ...
  21. -3
    27 October 2021 18: 56
    Quote: APASUS
    Israel does not take their opinions into account?

    Yes.
    Israel has made such a contribution to the cause of anti-Simitism that my respect.
    A living illustration of the Zion-Masonic conspiracy of the Reptilians.
  22. +1
    27 October 2021 19: 12
    The more PTB, the higher the drag, the higher the track fuel consumption.
    But the allusion to Tehran is clear.
  23. -6
    27 October 2021 20: 10
    nits no longer hide that they want to bomb a sovereign country, and this will mean only one war. and in this case, the Zionists will just untie the hands of their enemies, for they attacked first.
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  25. -2
    27 October 2021 21: 03
    It is extremely important for Israel today to make every effort to prevent the emergence of nuclear weapons in Iran, because for Israel this is an actual existential threat.

    Rather, Iran is also planned to be shattered, and nuclear weapons will not allow it.
  26. 0
    28 October 2021 11: 08
    we forgot to put the bio toilet
  27. +1
    28 October 2021 11: 36
    What can I say, well done Jews do not chew snot.
  28. -1
    28 October 2021 12: 10
    Israel's attack is the most direct and bistrian method to equip Iran with nuclear weapons.
    1. -2
      28 October 2021 12: 30
      This will only delay the development of the program. Only the United States or the invasion of Iran can actually terminate the program by the Air Force (but this is again only the United States). and in addition to all this, it is necessary to occupy a neighboring country such as Iraq with access to Oken for logistics. And air defense systems are developing, Iran is being purchased, and sooner or later will be equipped with them, and the C300 / 400 / Buki systems will not allow an air operation to be carried out at a distance. Plus, there is also slyness here, in the event of a declaration of war, you can shoot down enemy planes outside the territory of Iran.
  29. -1
    28 October 2021 15: 24
    Looks like a pregnant cockroach laughing