"The grandfather of Russian aviation"

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Dzhevetsky's submarine at the Central Naval Museum in St. Petersburg. Photo by N. Mikhailov
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«History the state of the Russian ... "by the Russian poet Alexei Tolstoy, written in 1868.

Significant people of Russian history. For those who often visit VO, it is noticeable that, in addition to smart people, there are also those who first of all pay attention not to the content of the texts, but to the author's surname, as if it had been nailed to him at birth. They especially dislike surnames that end in "iy". Once "iy" means necessarily a Pole or a Jew, and it remains to be seen which is worse. But, actually, why is it bad? Didn't they take the most active part in the creation of the USSR? And haven't they made a huge contribution to the science and technology of Russia? It is hardly worth citing the biographies of all these people, as well as their roots, starting with V.I. Ulyanov and his other associates. This topic is separate and very broad. Let's talk better about people of science and famous Russian inventors. For example, such as Stefan Karlovich Dzhevetsky (1843-1938), who made a very worthy contribution to the history of Russian science and technology. But who was born ... in a family of Poles, and it would be okay there are some peasants or shoemakers, because there is no - in a family that belonged to an old Polish family. A family that owned large estates in the Volyn province, had a luxurious dacha with an orchard in Odessa near the Small Fountain, houses in Warsaw, etc. etc. In a word, they were not poor people at all, but very rich. And, perhaps, that is why most of their time the Drzewiecki family spent not just anywhere, but in Paris. And young Stefan was brought up and schooled at home, and his family did not spare money for his teachers.

That's just home, even if very good education in Europe then for a successful career was no longer enough. But it was not at all so easy to enter one of the higher educational institutions in France: it was required to have a bachelor's degree. True, there was little behind this loud name. In fact, it was an analogue of our Russian ... certificate of maturity. And in order to get it, young Stephen was assigned to the senior class of one of the best and most prestigious lyceums in Paris, which, terrible to say, belonged to the Jesuit Order. But it was not a spiritual institution, but a civil one. But on the other hand, there was severe discipline. And young Stephen was a great mischievous person, so the Jesuit fathers often had to curb his willfulness and mischief by flogging.



It is interesting how at that time the exam for a bachelor's degree was being held at the University of Paris. The professors sat in a row at one long table, and the candidates answered them in turn, eventually getting a mark in their certificate. In case of an unsatisfactory answer, even from one of them, the examiner was not allowed to further answers and did not receive a certificate. But if he answered everyone, then the last professor immediately gave him a certificate. Such a "conveyor system" was convenient, since at that time in Paris for the exam ... 2500 - 3000 candidates could come in one day. Drzewiecki got 20 points in all subjects! Highest mark! An incident in the history of the Lyceum is almost unprecedented. However, the holy fathers immediately "poured a tub of water" on his parents, offering to take their child out of the lyceum, since extraordinary abilities are good, but he did not do anything for a whole year, and by his example he may have a bad influence on other students. They, they say, will begin to imitate him, but they do not have his abilities, as a result, their school will be completely ruined.

That is why Drzewiecki did not get into the special math class of the Jesuit Lyceum, but he went to study at the Central Engineering School, which could be equated with our Russian Institute of Technology. Moreover, he studied there together with Eiffel - the future creator of the famous Parisian tower.

Having received his education, he took up inventions, on which he spent very significant sums of money. But he rarely took patents. He was interested in the process of creativity itself, and not in its result. Well, his talent is at least evidenced by the fact that even Eiffel himself, having received worldwide recognition as an engineer, built his Paris laboratory not just anywhere, but next to ... as a neighbor, he can always get valuable advice or free consultation from him.

At the World Exhibition in Vienna in 1873, Drzewiecki owned a whole stand, so he presented so many devices and devices designed by him. And then it happened that the brother of Tsar Alexander II, Konstantin Nikolaevich, at that time was the governor of the Kingdom of Poland and had many young adjutants in his person who belonged to the best Polish surnames. Young Drzewiecki was then 20 years old, and he was well educated, cheerful, witty, well into the high society of Warsaw, so he easily made friends with many of them and ... was introduced to the Grand Duke by them. Konstantin came to his stand and most of all admired the automatic course recorder, which was connected to the compass and log, and automatically plotted the path of the ship on the map.

By the power given to him from above, he immediately appointed Drzewiecki an advisory member of the Technical Committee, put the salary of 500 rubles a month, that is, the salary of a colonel of the tsarist army, and proposed to implement the invention for the needs of the Russian fleet!

The device was made and even tested on the gunboat Otliv, but it came out cumbersome and complicated.

But before he had time to correct it, the Russian-Turkish war began in the spring of 1877, and Drzewiecki went to the navy as a volunteer and was enlisted in the crew of the steamer Vesta. While on it, on July 24, 1877, he took part in the famous battle between Vesta and the Turkish battleship Fehti Bulland. The Russian ship lost almost half of its crew in it, but forced the enemy ship to retreat. Since Drzewiecki was not an officer, he was awarded the soldier's St. George Cross, of which he was very proud.

"The grandfather of Russian aviation"
Stefan Karlovich Dzhevetsky with the St.George Cross

Being in the navy was the impetus for the birth of the idea of ​​an ultra-small submarine with a foot-drive propulsion system. And then there were several months of work and ... a finished roll of drawings. They promised to make the boat at the Odessa mechanical plant of the company "Gulie-Blanchard". But the inventor did not have enough money to build it. But the good glory runs, and the thin one lies. The Dzhevetskys were well known in Odessa, so the famous philanthropist, merchant and banker, Greek by origin, Fedor Rodokanaki (1797-1882) decided to help with the construction of the boat. As a result, the "Russian nautilus of Polish-Greek origin" swayed on the Black Sea waves.


Diagram of the device of the submarine Drzewiecki

The boat was shown to Vice Admiral of the Black Sea Fleet Nikolai Arkas (1816-1881) and demonstrated in action: Drzewiecki blew up a barge at anchor with a mine. The admiral was completely delighted and immediately reported a miracleweapons to Petersburg. The boat turned out, however, quite small: 5 m in length, and less than 2 m in height. Pedal screw drive. The lower part of the submarine's hull was occupied by a ballast tank, above which there was a pedal drive and a reservoir for compressed air under a pressure of 100-200 atmospheres. It was blown through the water ballast during the ascent of the boat and the crew breathed it under the water. Water was drawn into the ballast tank by gravity through the valve, and through it, during the ascent, the water from the tank was removed. There was enough air for breathing underwater for 20 minutes. The armament of the boat consisted of two pop-up mines, connected by a cable, which covered the bottom of the ship with a horseshoe when surfacing. The mine was connected to the boat with a rubberized cable. Having placed a mine, the boat retreated to a safe distance and blew it up, sending an electric current through it.


Boat tests at the Gatchina pond

Paradoxically, it is a fact that it was not the sailors who became interested in Drzewiecki's submarine, but the Military Engineering Department, where they considered that such a submarine would be perfect for protecting coastal and island fortresses. It was proposed to transfer the boat to St. Petersburg, and there experts from the Engineering Department suggested to Drzewiecki to increase the crew by two more people, so that they would pedal, and the commander would not be distracted by this. The enlarged boat was already 6 meters long, and its displacement was 11,5 tons. The heir to the throne, the future emperor Alexander III (1845-1894), also wished to inspect the boat.


The deckhouse of a boat with eight observation devices. Photo by N. Mikhailov

The boat was transported to Gatchina and lowered into the Silver Lake, the water in which was very clean and transparent. He knew that Alexander loved his wife very much, quiet family joys, and that she also loved them, and also ... loved orchids. Therefore, when the Grand Duke and his wife sailed on a boat on the lake, Dzhevetsky several times passed under them on his ship, and when he approached the shore, where the crowned couple was already there, he moored at the pier on which they stood, and getting out, handed Maria Fedorovna a beautiful bouquet of orchids with the words: "This is Neptune's tribute to your highness." The young princess was only a woman and was overjoyed. And the heir, in turn, seeing the joy of his beloved wife, first thanked the inventor for a long time, and then actively encouraged him to order 50 such boats at once, and even pay 100 rubles (for that time and Russia, the amount is simply monstrous).


Propeller and rudder. Photo by N. Mikhailov

And in less than a year, all 50 boats were manufactured and accepted by the Military Engineering Department, although this speed was a matter of chance. The fact is that extraordinary measures were taken in relation to the boat. Like the legendary Captain Nemo Jules Verne, all the details of the boat were ordered from different manufacturers, and the drawings were also drawn up in different measurement systems. As a result, it turned out that all the drawings of the hull parts were sent to the Nevsky Plant, where the unique self-taught master Pyotr Akindinovich Titov (1843-1894) worked. He was not too lazy to draw them on the same scale and put everything together. Drzewiecki, having arrived to receive the order and seeing the finished hull of the boat, just gasped: "It's a secret!" As a result, thanks to Titov's ingenuity, the boats were built very quickly, and with such quality that they served for many years without leaks.


Part of a piston engine from a Drzewiecki submarine. It was used during the submersion and ascent of the boat. Photo by N. Mikhailov

For the first time in the world, the air regeneration system was also installed on the Dzhevetsky boat. A special air pump, acting from the propeller shaft, pumped air through a container with sodium hydroxide solution, in which it was purified from carbon dioxide. From time to time, oxygen from a cylinder was added to the boat. 16 boats were left in Kronstadt, 30 were sent to the Black Sea, one boat was placed at the disposal of the Engineering Department.

The beginning of scuba diving, thus, was good in Russia, and it would have been developed and developed, but ... it did not work out. Once again, Russia, having made a leap, then calmly rested on its laurels instead of continuing the work begun, and then hastily began to catch up.


Diagram of a boat with an electric motor

Meanwhile, in 1884, Drzewiecki, at his own expense, installed one-horsepower electric motors on two boats, powered by rechargeable batteries. During the tests on the Neva, one boat was sailing against the current at a speed of 4 knots. And these were again the very first submarines in the world powered by electric motors. And then Drzewiecki also invented lattice torpedo tubes, which were located not inside the hull of the boat, but outside, and then they stood on many domestic boats, in particular, on boats such as "Shark" and "Panther".


Submarines Drzewiecki of various designs in the "Encyclopedia" Brockhaus and Efron. Between 1890 and 1907

As for pedal boats, it is clear that they became obsolete very quickly and were eventually decommissioned, and their hulls were used as buoys.


S.K. Drzewiecki - bracing double monoplane-tandem with a pusher propeller, transitional to the "duck" scheme. The aircraft was built in 1912 in France, was demonstrated at the Paris Exhibition, and did not show positive results in flight. Later, a more powerful engine was installed on it, but he was no longer able to fly.

Then Drzewiecki got carried away aviation and in 1885-1891. published several works devoted to flight in the air: "On air resistance as applied to the flight of birds and airplanes" (1885), "Airplanes in nature. Experience of a new theory of flight "(1887)," Theoretical solution to the problem of soaring birds "(1891). In 1892, he developed a theory that made it possible to calculate propellers for airplanes with great success, which was later used by N.E. Zhukovsky. Well, Drzewiecki himself did not limit himself to one theory and built a plant for the production of ... propellers of his own design. At a congress of aeronautics in Paris in 1889, he gave a presentation on advantageous angles of attack of the wing. Finally, he wrote a treatise, The General Theory of Screws, which won an award from the French Academy of Sciences in 1920.


S.K. Drzewiecki at the Paris Exhibition

Finally, in 1912, Drzewiecki himself built an airplane of a very unusual design, with two pairs of wings - front and rear - with a pushing rear propeller and a 70 hp engine. The rear wing was stationary and without ailerons, but with small vertical rudders at the ends. A 1/10 life-size model airplane was blown in an air tube in the Eiffel laboratory. Accordingly, the front fenders had a smaller area and played the role of elevators and rolls. For this control system, Drzewiecki received two patents at once in 1909 and 1910. For these inventions and theoretical work in the field, he was elected a member of the Paris Aeronautical Society and chairman of the VII (aeronautical) department of the Russian Imperial Technical Society. And not without reason Academician A.N. Krylov, noting his merits in the development of aviation, called him “grandfather of Russian aviation».

PS The author and the site administration would like to thank N. Mikhailov for the photographs he prepared for this material.
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  1. +12
    16 October 2021 06: 58
    however, he forced the enemy ship to retreat.

    In principle, this episode in the biography of Stepan Karlovich, a remarkable man in every sense, does not have much meaning. In the war he volunteered for the navy, took part in hostilities ... well done!
    But why write such a blatant lie?
    To wind up the visit counter?
    1. +1
      16 October 2021 07: 04
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      But why write such a blatant lie?

      And what is not true?
      1. +12
        16 October 2021 07: 16
        The fact that "Vesta" made Fethi Bulland retreat.
        So, yes, having failed to catch up with the Russian steamer, the Turks under the command of an Englishman returned to their base. So after all, the battle cruisers Beatty, having sunk the Blucher, returned to the English shores. This does not mean that Hipper made to retreat their counterparts?
        1. -2
          16 October 2021 07: 38
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          The fact that Vesta forced Fethi Bulland to retreat.
          So, yes, having failed to catch up with the Russian steamer, the Turks under the command of an Englishman returned to their base. So after all, the battle cruisers Beatty, having sunk the Blucher, returned to the English shores. This does not mean that Hipper forced his counterparts to retreat?

          Ugh! I was thinking something serious. For the future, Ivan, as a writer to a writer. Such trifles in a non-thematic article are of no use to anyone and are not important. Now, if the fight itself was considered "Vesta", then talking about who made whom what would make sense. And it is clear that I took this phrase from somewhere. And what do you suggest? Introduce links in [] brackets, as in Wikipedia, to all the facts more or less mentioned in the articles? Nobody needs this, and it will become impossible to read the materials!
          1. +12
            16 October 2021 07: 42
            Quote: kalibr
            I was thinking something serious.

            Attention to detail creates perfection, and perfection is not a trifle!
            I have repeatedly observed how such "little things" can spoil the impression of the entire material.
            1. -4
              16 October 2021 07: 45
              Quote: Senior Sailor
              Attention to detail creates perfection, and perfection is not a trifle!
              I have repeatedly observed how such "little things" can spoil the impression of the entire material.

              There is nothing more stupid than striving for perfection. In fact, it is really unattainable. They don't drink since morning, but ... I would drink with you to strive for a good average level! By the way, I will write a separate article "about striving for s ..." - it will be interesting.
              1. ANB
                +4
                16 October 2021 10: 24
                ... There is nothing more stupid than striving for perfection.

                "Best the enemy of the good".
                This is also used in development. You can lick the code endlessly, at the risk of breaking and delaying deadlines.
          2. +3
            16 October 2021 12: 25
            In vain you are so, the whole is made up of little things and success or failure depends on them. The most important thing in life, and especially in technology, is the little things. Ask the striped ones what little things prevent them from making their rocket engine instead of our 180, or why copies of AK are not suitable for him. And you say little things. hi
            1. +1
              16 October 2021 16: 32
              AK immediately became perfect, like the 180th? Or did they first appear, then some ... flaws were found in them, then they were corrected? It was so. But it's the same with printed material. Here he appeared. Then some flaws were found in it. Then they are eliminated or marked.
        2. +3
          16 October 2021 08: 17
          In 1878, the Naval Ministry terminated the proceedings on this issue, proposing to Baranov to sort things out with Rozhestvensky in a civil court.
        3. +9
          16 October 2021 12: 52
          Good afternoon, Ivan. hi
          I agree with you both in detail and in essence. In this particular battle, Vesta simply ran away from the Turk, which was completely justified and reasonable.

          Concerning
          ... then Drzewiecki also invented lattice torpedo tubes, which were located not inside the hull of the boat, but outside,

          I don’t remember exactly where, but somehow I came across information long ago that these devices were extremely unreliable and were easily damaged by a strong wave. Do you have something about this?

          Well, and for fun's sake, for the mood, stills from the movie "The Mystery of Backup Island". smile

          1. +7
            16 October 2021 17: 25
            Quote: Sea Cat
            that these devices were extremely unreliable and easily damaged by a strong wave

            That is why they were abandoned.
            However, in fairness, due to the then technical level and small size of the devices, there was probably no alternative. hi
        4. +5
          16 October 2021 20: 35
          The fact that Vesta forced Fethi Bulland to retreat.

          Ivan, greetings! drinks wikipedia writes the following:
          Finally, a bomb fired from Vesta demolished the enemy's front gun casemate. The enemy ship was enveloped in thick smoke, it withdrew from the battle and began to hurriedly leave.
          That is, there was some kind of critical hit, after which it was inappropriate to continue the battle. request
          Yes, the steamer initially ran away. But the enemy stopped pursuing precisely as a result of some kind of damage! hi
          Brig Mercury also escaped, but we consider it a heroic ship. drinks
          Respectfully yours, N. Mikhailov, author of a number of photos. drinks
          to the crew of the steamer "Vesta". While on it, on July 24, 1877, he took part in the famous battle between Vesta and the Turkish battleship Fehti Bulland.

          It seems that all the originals from the Black Sea Fleet were collected in this crew. We know Drzewiecki. The captain was Nikolai Baranov, who invented the breech-loading rifle for the fleet. She was armed with sailors. soldier

          And also Lieutenant Zinovy ​​Rozhestvensky served on the ship ... the same ...
          Somewhat later, he will publish articles describing what, they say, "the steamer ran away, and heroism did not." It almost came to court. Between him and Baranov. hi
          Such an excellent critic ... then lead the fleet to Tsushima ... negative
          1. +1
            16 October 2021 21: 01
            Lord, with her, with Tsushima. In this situation, it is important that he wrote the article, but did not refuse the award.
            1. +2
              16 October 2021 21: 04
              Lord, with her, with Tsushima. In this situation, it is important that he wrote the article, but did not refuse the award.

              In short, all controversial issues - to "Andrey from Chelyabinsk". Yes This is his topic, he considered it in detail on the pages of the site. drinks
              1. +2
                16 October 2021 21: 10
                Hardly, Andrei did not consider the biography of Rozhdestvensky.
          2. +6
            16 October 2021 21: 35
            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            The captain was Nikolay Baranov, who invented the breech-loading rifle for the fleet.

            Strictly speaking, he did not invent it. It was a time of constant upgrade of rifle systems, and, as soon as they had time to adopt something new, the newest appeared :))
            In the troops of all armies, there remained a lot of outdated breech-loading rifles, which were a pity to dispose of, but to fight with them was fraught ... And they decided to convert them into breech-loading rifles. The first were the American Jacob Snyder, who improved the English Enfield rifle, which Lime was later adopted for service, and the Austrian Joseph Werndl. Who exactly was improved by Count Augusto Albini is now not very clear, the systems were quite similar, but Baranov proposed a way to remake our six-line rifle Model 1856 according to the Albini method. It, as was customary during the "unfortunate rifle drama" of Kiselev's time, was immediately adopted, began to produce, but suddenly it became clear that there is a better and cheaper way. Namely - Krnka.
            But ... the order has already been given, and not to anyone, but to Putilov himself. Nikolai Ivanovich, was an influential man, one might say a friend of VK Konstantin and offending him a little ... not good. Therefore, the order was not canceled and the rifles produced at his factory went into service with the sailors.
            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            It seems that all the originals from the Black Sea Fleet were collected in this crew. We know Drzewiecki. The captain was Nikolay Baranov

            Nikolai Mikhailovich Baranov, after the trial, considered himself offended and wrote a memorandum in which he poured out bile to the fullest. Since some tall persons got in it, he was fired from the fleet.
            But then, he was pardoned and again accepted into the service, but this time in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. He managed to visit the governor in several regions and even the mayors of St. Petersburg. Moreover, he was patronized by such dissimilar people as Konstantin Pobedonostsev and Count Loris-Melikov.
            Quote: Pane Kohanku
            Lieutenant Zinovy ​​Rozhestvensky also served on the ship.

            No, I did not serve. ZPR was the flagart of the Black Sea Fleet and, on duty, often took part in the combat exits of our improvised cruisers. He was also on the Vesta, which was, in a sense, an experimental vessel. Instead of conventional naval guns, it had mortars and Davydov's fire control system, which, according to the idea, was supposed to ensure the defeat of an enemy ship. And since they did not know how to arm both the sides and the deck at that time (at least on such small ships as Fethi Bulland), the very first hit could be the last. In practice, this, alas, did not happen and the unarmored steamer had to escape, forcing the CMU to the last extreme.
            When Colonel Cherevin, who commanded the cruiser's artillery, died, ZPR took his place and honestly performed his duty. No more, no less.
            But after the battle, the strange began. Lieutenant-Commander Baranov, not otherwise than according to the behests of Rumyantsev (write more, why should they feel sorry for their busurman!) Made a report, from which it followed that they fought the Turk fiercely, inflicted a lot of damage on him, almost came to shootings from personal weapons and, in the end, they drove away the enemy battleship with pissing rags!
            In principle, you can understand it. You can't praise yourself, no one will praise, but ... this story was picked up by the press. And about how now some individuals on the site are shouting about the transcendent superiority over enemy aircraft carriers of our boats and corvettes with "calibers", the then scribblers began to assert that we do not need battleships, we will beat all armed steamers with one left!
            And it was against this that the young Lieutenant-Commander Rozhdestvensky spoke out in the "Stock Exchange". In principle, he was absolutely right.
    2. +1
      16 October 2021 07: 41
      Quote: Senior Sailor
      To wind up the visit counter?

      It is winding up with the name, not the content of the text!
      1. +9
        16 October 2021 08: 05
        Quote: kalibr
        It is winding up with the name, not the content of the text!

        How to say ... if in the text, insert some controversial statement, from which I will not poke a finger for some, it will certainly burn, and this burnt one will rush to write a refutation. He has an opponent, both supporters and followers, and all these people will gladly arrange srach comments for 200-300. You look at the counter and run :)))
        There are such "masters" on Topvar ...
        1. 0
          16 October 2021 08: 10
          Quote: Senior Sailor
          He has an opponent, both supporters and followers, and all these people will gladly arrange srach comments for 200-300.

          But I forgot about that. It's good that we were reminded. Oh, I'm getting old right before our eyes.
          1. +3
            16 October 2021 20: 38
            Oh, I'm getting old right before our eyes.

            Oh, you're getting old, Vyacheslav Olegovich! wink Please mention the same person, which pulled N. Mikhailov to the Naval Museum, and without which the photographs would certainly not have happened - my friend Anton 3x3zsave Bazhin! With him, and only with him - my best photos! Yes drinks
            1. +2
              16 October 2021 21: 19
              Once again: don't demonize me!
          2. +2
            18 October 2021 13: 25
            Vyacheslav Olegovich, excuse me ...
            Let me actually congratulate you on your birthday, eh? I wish you all the very best in life, as well as the fulfillment of all, even at first glance, unrealizable desires! hi hi hi
            1. +1
              18 October 2021 15: 33
              Thank you Sergey, very moved.
        2. +3
          16 October 2021 09: 15
          people will gladly arrange srach comments for 200-300

          Below, a certain max702 has thrown a seed for the srach.
      2. Fat
        +3
        16 October 2021 12: 54
        hi Vyacheslav Olegovich ... And the theme was outlined by our Anton ...
        is not it so? It suits me, suits you, but Ivan Ochenkov is not very ...
        1. +2
          16 October 2021 13: 19
          No, not me, but exclusively N. Mikhailov.
          1. Fat
            +4
            16 October 2021 13: 22
            Accepted. But the style of Shpakovsky, not Nikolai ...
            1. +4
              16 October 2021 13: 25
              I meant the designation of the topic, not the authorship. Unless, of course, you mean the conflict between Baranov and Rozhdestvensky.
              1. Fat
                +4
                16 October 2021 13: 28
                Does not matter! In general, it turned out superbly ...
                Any doubts?
            2. +3
              16 October 2021 20: 46
              Accepted. But the style of Shpakovsky, not Nikolai ...

              Anton is my personal "muse", in the best sense of the word. Together with him we shoot relatively well. good But without it - it turns out disgusting! request
    3. +2
      16 October 2021 09: 17
      Vyacheslav, as an epigraph (in my opinion) lines from "Ode" by MV Lomonosov, a poet and a SCIENTIST, would be more suitable.
      "What can own Platonov.
      And the quick-witted Nevtons.
      Russian land to give birth. "
    4. +2
      16 October 2021 12: 42
      Paradoxically, it is a fact that it was not the sailors who became interested in the Drzewiecki submarine, but the Military Engineering Department, where they considered that such a submarine would be perfect for protecting coastal and island fortresses.

      There is nothing paradoxical, this boat was not suitable for more than the defense of a coastal fortress
  2. +1
    16 October 2021 06: 58
    I knew about submarines for a long time, but AVIATION? For me, and maybe for many, this discovery is a big thank you!
  3. +3
    16 October 2021 07: 40
    A tandem duck, and even without ailerons or skewing, the result is understandable and flew very shortly and very badly. With all due respect to the talents of Dzhevetsky, the same Sikorsky and our other designers were currently creating workable aircraft. Theory by theory it was the time of the practitioners.
    1. +2
      16 October 2021 07: 46
      Yes, sometimes in practice the theorist turns out to be stronger than the talented practitioner.
      1. +3
        16 October 2021 09: 12
        Yeah, only at this time aerodynamics was in its infancy, and when theorists without practice and experience get down to business, it turns out Svyatogor. But Ilya Muromets, who was "wrong" in terms of aerodynamics, flew.
        I do not write that in Drzewiecki's airplane the rear wing is in the wake of the front one, in general, this aircraft is a complete horror, it's just amazing that it still flew.
        1. +6
          16 October 2021 09: 18
          Quote: irontom
          Yeah, only at this time aerodynamics was in its infancy, and when theorists without practice and experience get down to business, it turns out Svyatogor. But Ilya Muromets, who was "wrong" in terms of aerodynamics, flew.
          I do not write that in Drzewiecki's airplane the rear wing is in the wake of the front one, in general, this aircraft is a complete horror, it's just amazing that it still flew.

          By the way, the first wind tunnel with a free jet in the test section was built according to the drawings of Drzewiecki by Gustave Eiffel in Paris on the Champ de Mars in 1909.
          1. +7
            16 October 2021 10: 18
            By the way, the first wind tunnel with a free jet in the test section was built according to the drawings of Drzewiecki by Gustave Eiffel in Paris on the Champ de Mars in 1909.

            And after Eiffel had to move his laboratory from the Champ de Mars to 1912 rue Boileau in 67, Drzewiecki continued to work there on his theory of propellers.
            1. +4
              16 October 2021 10: 39
              Quote: Undecim
              And after Eiffel had to move his laboratory in 1912 from the Champ de Mars to rue Boileau, 67,

              Yes, he moved to the other side of the Seine, to the Boulevard de Marechaux area. There is now a museum.
              1. +2
                16 October 2021 13: 09
                There is now a museum.

                1. +5
                  16 October 2021 14: 21
                  The French cherish their heritage and love to organize museums for any occasion. In addition to the large and world famous, there are also small, but extremely curious ones.
        2. +3
          16 October 2021 12: 52
          But Ilya Muromets, who was "wrong" in terms of aerodynamics, flew.

          It was "wrong" from the point of view of longitudinal stability, the pilot continuously monitored this instability, since the damping moment of the tail allowed. But piloting a statically unstable aircraft by hand is still a pleasure. However, all over the world, the dynamics of flight were taken up seriously already in the 30s and 40s.
          1. +2
            16 October 2021 14: 40
            Ilya was a tandem, on the contrary, his stabilizer created part of the lifting force, respectively, rear centering. The hero of the story is worse, the duck is a tandem, even now this layout is problematic, the same master of ducks and tandems Bert Rutan could not create small ducks while trying to create a full-fledged passenger plane. And the military has ABSU Electronics. At this time, it is aerodynamic hopelessness, there is no air here. the pipe won't help. Clean ducks such as Wright, Farman, etc. where the stabilizer is only for longitudinal control, tolerable due to the pilot's hemorrhoids, without attempts to spin.
  4. +4
    16 October 2021 08: 00
    He's both talented and brave - well done for everyone!

    Nowhere is there a word about his family life, it's a pity if he did not leave offspring ...
    1. +2
      16 October 2021 08: 23
      I agree. I would like to learn more about the life of this talented person. Thanks to the author - especially for the beginning of the article with the mention of surnames ending in "s".))))
      1. 0
        16 October 2021 08: 37
        Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky
        I would like to learn more about the life of this talented person

        Me too...
      2. +1
        16 October 2021 08: 49
        Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky
        I agree. I would like to learn more about the life of this talented person.

        It is striking that there is nothing in other sources either.
        request
        It is only mentioned that from 1892 he lived in Paris and was already engaged in business ...
  5. -4
    16 October 2021 08: 19
    Yes Kik tick then? There was nothing in tsarist Russia! Not industry, not science, not literate educated people! There was nothing! Comrade Stalin accepted a cattle plow.
    1. +10
      16 October 2021 12: 10
      Yes Kik tick then?
      when you stop (learn) to think not with emotions but with logic, give out isolated cases - built 89 "Ilyush Muromtsev" - hurray! Russia is ahead of the rest of the world! We built a couple of battleships outdated by that time with 305-mm artillery - again caps in the air, etc. for the system. Then you will get answers to -
      Yes Kik tick then?
      ... and it is even better to compare - than plowed in the then Russia (namely the plow) and in other developed countries - the USA, Britain, France, Germany. How much and what was produced in RI. and how much over the hill, which accounted for most of the export that was imported ...
      There was nothing!
      It was. Who's arguing? But not enough. Or five-year plans and industrialization just like that, purely for fun were carried out? Plants were built, factories, power plants, etc., etc., etc.
      Stalin was like, "What about comrades! Here we have a whole industrial power! Russia did everything herself! Therefore, I propose to break everything to hell, demolish it, blow it up! And start building anew! We have a lot of money, gold does not fit in basements! So Let's start! First, we will destroy everything and then ... "So what happens according to your" logic "? Or do you take the words from the "Internationale" - ..... we will destroy to the ground and then ... "Literally? laughing So there are still words ahead - "we are the whole world of violence ...."
      The meaning of explaining or yourself?
      1. -6
        16 October 2021 16: 57
        I mean that everything did not come from scratch, there was a lot in Russia, the trouble is that everything was profaned after the October Maidan, and this is the main reason that all the country's forces had to be strained for industrialization, the revival of science and other things that the technological order requires ... That is, it is the revolutionary, not the evolutionary development of the country that is the main reason for the decline of everything and everyone. Now think about who organized all this in Russia and for what purpose.
        1. +7
          16 October 2021 17: 46
          Quote: max702
          That is, it is the revolutionary, not the evolutionary development of the country that is the main reason for the decline of everything and everyone.

          Well, here's the evolutionary development of the Empire.
          Machine guns are produced at a single factory, which, even after the mobilization of all forces and resources, can cover no more than half of the army's requests. The machine gun factory in Kovrov begins to be built only after the start of the war and the first production temporary workshop "B" will give only in 1918. Fully commissioned under the Bolsheviks.
          Cars are produced at the only plant, which, even after the mobilization of all forces and resources, cannot cover the demands of the army. Additional car factories begin to be built only in 1916 - and the same AMO can only assemble cars from imported components, since there is not even suitable steel at home. Fully commissioned under the Bolsheviks.
          Aircraft engines are the same picture.
          Artillery pieces: the Vickers plant in Tsaritsyn, due to the Petersburg undercover games, was delayed by construction and manning and never entered service. Fully commissioned under the Bolsheviks.
          What kind of evolutionary development can we talk about in a country that cannot master the mass production of the same cars due to the lack of a sufficient domestic market for them? Before WWI, our entire high-tech industry was supported by state support: for which the state will give money, then private traders will produce, if there is no money for the industry, there is no industry either. Vaughn Lessner tried to produce cars - so he went bankrupt and converted the plant into torpedoes, they are at least consistently bought.
          1. -2
            16 October 2021 17: 59
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Machine guns are produced at a single plant, which, even after the mobilization of all forces and resources, can cover no more than half of the army's requests.

            Either the Red Army fought the whole war with Maxims.high-tech
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Cars are produced at the only plant, which, even after the mobilization of all forces and resources, cannot cover the requests of the army

            Do you want to tell how things were with cars in 1941-1945 in the Red Army?)
            1. +8
              16 October 2021 20: 08
              Quote: Liam
              Either the Red Army fought the whole war with the Maxims.

              The Red Army did not have a situation when there is only one plant in the whole country that can make machine guns - because the rest lacks the precision of machine tools for the production of automation.
              So yes, for the industry of the Empire, "Maxim" remained high-tech even ten years after the start of production.
              Quote: Liam
              Do you want to tell how things were with cars in 1941-1945 in the Red Army?

              Vehicle fleet of the Red Army on 01.01.1945:
              Domestic cars: 395,2 thousand or 63,6%
              Imported cars: 191,3 thousand or 30,4%
              Trophy cars: 34,7 thousand or 6,0%

              What about the percentage of domestic cars in the fleet of the Imperial Army on 01.01.1917/XNUMX/XNUMX? wink
              1. -2
                17 October 2021 08: 52
                Quote: Alexey RA
                The Red Army did not have a situation

                The massive use of such a machine gun in 41-45 can not be called a technological shame except
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Vehicle fleet of the Red Army on 01.01.1945

                I asked about the needs of the army)
                Without even touching on what kind of cars they were, what was their technological level and what kind of vehicles were the transport backbone of the army, it is clear that, like under the tsar, the industry is not able to cover the needs of the army. Therefore, you have not chosen the best examples for comparison
                1. +2
                  17 October 2021 17: 42
                  Quote: Liam
                  The massive use of such a machine gun in 41-45 can not be called a technological shame except

                  Tell the British about it:

                  1945 Holland. The British version of "Maxim" - "Vickers" - in position.
                  With this machine gun, the British army went through two World Wars and removed it from service only in 1968.
                  Or maybe we look across the ocean?

                  1944 US Marine J. Miller carries a Browning M1917 machine gun at Cape Gloucester.
                  This machine gun even managed to fight in Vietnam.
                  Quote: Liam
                  Without even touching on what kind of cars they were, what was their technological level and what kind of vehicles were the transport backbone of the army, it is clear that, like under the tsar, the industry is not able to cover the needs of the army.

                  There is still a difference between 60% and 8-10%.
                  1. -3
                    17 October 2021 18: 09
                    Maxim was an analogue of these machine guns in about the same way as the ZIS lorry was an analogue of Studebaker
        2. -4
          18 December 2021 18: 18
          You should take the place of Plato or Newton in the History of Humanity ...
          But first, explain to the Americans that their Lincoln is just a fool and a madman with his Civil War, and to the French too - how much they would have achieved if not for the French Revolution. Why waste time on trifles, the entire West needs to open its eyes .. Why did they ruin the Great Roman Empire? After all, this led to the strongest decline. productive forces .... Barbarians - one word, barbarians. It’s as if life was cool under the emperors, the slaves under the masters, the gentlemen under the RSBAs, .. The purest paradise.
    2. +10
      16 October 2021 12: 55
      Not industry, not science, not literate educated people!

      Judging by the way you handle the Russian language, these people are still very few. laughing
      1. Fat
        +3
        16 October 2021 13: 25
        Ke seke, and mua? lol laughing
  6. +6
    16 October 2021 09: 11
    Stefan Karlovich left no descendants.

    Curiosity:
    Among the explosive mixture of Polish princes and rabbis, he found himself in a very distant, non-consanguineous relationship with him. wassat
    1. 0
      16 October 2021 09: 42
      Well, with such a nickname, you can't find yourself even in a distant but consanguineous relationship - it's really a curiosity)))) wink
  7. +8
    16 October 2021 09: 42
    "The grandfather of Russian aviation"

    Rather, the French aviation, since in 1892 he moved to Paris and all his theoretical and practical successes in the field of aviation were already achieved in France.
    1. +7
      16 October 2021 10: 42
      Quote: Undecim
      Paris and all its theoretical and practical successes in the field of aviation have already been achieved in France.

      And he bequeathed all the property of the laboratory and his archive to Poland. But during WW2 it all fell apart ...
    2. +6
      16 October 2021 12: 12
      moved to Paris and all his theoretical and practical successes in the field of aviation were already achieved in France.
      A real Russian patriot good And after all, there weren't any "philosophical steamers" and "bloody" Bolsheviks. laughing
    3. +2
      16 October 2021 15: 50
      Rather French aviation,
      And I thought the French was Santos-Dumont ...
      1. +2
        16 October 2021 16: 46
        Santos Dumont is a pioneer.
  8. +4
    16 October 2021 11: 34
    Add.
    In 2006 in Gatchina, a monument-model of Dzhaveletsky's submarine was unveiled.
    1. Fat
      +4
      16 October 2021 12: 26
      hi Anton ... Luxurious!
      "And how will we remember that time ....!" (with)
      And yes - a great article, I am glad to read Yes
      1. +4
        16 October 2021 13: 15
        Alas, Andrei, the photo is not mine and not even of Nikolai's, but a seamless one from the Web. But I saw the monument. hi
        1. +3
          16 October 2021 17: 35
          I saw her as a child, in your Maritime Museum. smile


          Hello Anton! smile drinks
          1. +3
            16 October 2021 18: 44
            Hello Uncle Kostya! Let's just say, for Kolya, there is a place to have fun. For me, interesting, but no more.
            Of course, I screwed up with the Swedish ceremonial sword, but it is painfully similar to the executioners, and, moreover, the same Swedish ones.
            1. +4
              16 October 2021 18: 55
              Schaub I developed in swords like Tatra in the enemies of the communists. laughing
              We had a sword in our department, donated by German industrialists to Adolf Aloisevich, steel and trimmed with blue sapphires, as far as I remember. smile
              Here with him just Yurka Shokorev is standing.
    2. +2
      16 October 2021 12: 59
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      submarine Dzhaveletsky.

      Ah, so that's why a javelin is called a javelin ...
      1. +2
        16 October 2021 14: 05
        Yes, I agree, my cant feel
  9. +6
    16 October 2021 12: 43
    he developed a theory that made it possible with great success to calculate propellers for airplanes, which was later used by N.E. Zhukovsky.

    Zhukovsky's screw theory has nothing to do with Drzewiecki's theory.
    1. +3
      16 October 2021 13: 57
      Quote: Aviator_
      Zhukovsky's screw theory has nothing to do with Drzewiecki's theory.

      Zhukovsky could well have been familiar with the works of Drzewiecki published back in 1892. Zhukovsky's theory was published in 1904. Drzewiecki continued to improve the propeller until the early 20s.
      1. +3
        16 October 2021 14: 12
        Drzewiecki continued to improve the propeller until the early 20s.

        And let God help you. He remained a talented inventor - designer. Neither Betz nor Treftz used his engineering calculations. Yuriev and Sabinin gave a more accurate theory of the screw at the same time.
        1. +6
          16 October 2021 14: 23
          Quote: Aviator_
          Drzewiecki continued to improve the propeller until the early 20s.

          And let God help you. He remained a talented inventor - designer. Neither Betz nor Treftz used his engineering calculations. Yuriev and Sabinin gave a more accurate theory of the screw at the same time.

          Quite possible. I'm not an Aviator, I'm Privalov. laughing hi
  10. 0
    17 October 2021 00: 54
    Despite the inaccuracies concerning submarines, I am grateful to the author for the information about Drzewiecki as a theorist of aeronautics.
  11. -1
    17 October 2021 16: 22
    who is talking about what, and lousy about the bath ... "Once" iy "means necessarily a Pole or a Jew, and it is still unknown which is worse"
  12. 0
    17 October 2021 17: 16
    Significant people of Russian history. For those who often visit VO, it is noticeable that, in addition to smart people, there are also those who first of all pay attention not to the content of the texts, but to the author's surname.
    As they say without "monitoring". Straight away in that joke: "... and they called him Izyaslav. The hero grew up, and where necessary he presented himself as Glory, and where necessary Iza."
  13. -2
    30 November 2021 19: 35
    Very interesting + comments good