Patriotism as the Spiritual Basis of Russia's National Security

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In the last decade, in the context of the sanctions, information, trade, technological, financial, mental and hybrid wars deployed against Russia under the leadership of the United States by NATO countries, the term “patriotism” has become a key term in understanding the essence of the ongoing processes and the effectiveness of countering attempts to destroy the Russian Federation or deprive it of its sovereignty.

At the same time, the united West has been juggling various concepts for many years, including those used in this article. There, in fact, the concepts of "patriotism and nationalism" are identified. The thesis “America (USA) first” does not remind you of the motto “Germany above all”, which was a symbol of the Nazi ideology of the Third Reich (Deutschland, Deutschland űber alles, Űber alles in der Welt)?



Definition


In Ozhegov's Explanatory Dictionary, nationalism is interpreted as:

1) ideology and politics, proceeding from the ideas of national superiority and opposing their nation to others;

2) the manifestation of the psychology of national superiority, national antagonism, the idea of ​​national isolation.

In the Dictionary of Foreign Words, nationalism is an ideology and policy aimed at inciting national enmity by affirming the superiority of one nation over others. In the Dictionary of Synonyms: nationalism is chauvinism.

In the updated version of the National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation, Article 22 states:

“The main factors that determine the position and role of the Russian Federation in the world in the long term are the high quality of human potential, the ability to ensure technological leadership, the effectiveness of public administration and the transition of the economy to a new technological basis. The state of science, innovation, industry, education, healthcare and culture is turning into a key indicator of Russia's competitiveness. The preservation of Russian identity, culture, traditional Russian spiritual and moral values ​​and the patriotic education of citizens will contribute to the further development of the democratic structure of the Russian Federation and its openness to the world. "

Article 40 pays special attention, among others, to the solution of the following problem: "military-patriotic education and preparation for military service of citizens."

Patriotism is a multifaceted concept based on the description of feelings of love and devotion to one's people, the nations inhabiting the country, and its community. This includes many aspects: duty, honor, conscience, foundations and traditions of ancestors, spiritual path, etc. Therefore, the term "patriotism" in literature and the media is very broad and ambiguous.

Most clearly in our understanding, this term is given in the Sociological Encyclopedia: patriotism (Greek пατριώτης - "compatriot", πατρίς - "fatherland") is a political principle, a social feeling, the content of which is love, attachment to the Motherland, devotion to it and readiness to any sacrifice for her. The article "Criteria of Patriotism in Russia" (magazine "Military Thought" No. 2, 2019 pp. 146-157) provides a detailed analysis of various interpretations of this concept. Therefore, we will confine ourselves to the interpretation of patriotism proposed below, which, in our opinion, is the most acceptable in relation to the tasks of ensuring the national (military and state) security of the Russian Federation.

By patriotism we mean love for the Motherland, devotion to the Fatherland and readiness for self-sacrifice, endure hardships and hardships, protect the Fatherland from external encroachments and internal destroyers and random fellow travelers who find themselves in our country, and also effectively ensure its sustainable progressive development, defense and prosperity.

The fundamental basis for the education of patriotism among members of society is social and economic inequality that is acceptable (permissible) for the bulk of the country's population.

Patriotism is usually viewed in two aspects.

First - This is a hierarchical structure of patriotic objects of the state. It includes:

- people of different age categories; their teams, ranging from family, kindergarten, school, work, service, etc .;

- professional and other associations, including the so-called elites, various societies, clans, corruption groups, terrorist groups, etc .;

- ethnic groups living separately and together in some territories (district, region, etc.);

- people, including various nations, etc.

Second - these are ideals, images, traditions, etc., that is, different aspects of some object of patriotism.

Among the many principles considered in the literature and the media, we single out such as: love for the Motherland and Fatherland, spirituality, morality and ethics of an individual, layers of the population and peoples that make up the country, unity on universal values ​​of various clusters of society, progressive state ideology, etc. ...

The concept of "patriotism" refers primarily to individuality (personality), but within a particular country it is applicable to certain groups of society and various formations (including military formations, private military companies, etc.) or groups. You can also talk about a patriotic people inhabiting a particular territory, or a state that implements or does not have patriotic foundations and principles of its existence.

Retrospective analysis stories development of mankind shows that states or empires that lose or reject patriotic principles and have chosen spiritual degradation and physical violence of the individual, financial, economic and other suppression and physical elimination of competitors as the fundamental principles of their existence, ultimately disappear from the geographical map of the planet. A striking example is the Roman Empire, the only state in the history of mankind to which the entire Mediterranean coast belonged.

When analyzing patriotism, the key objects are the family and school (not only educational, but also higher), aspects of their spiritual and socio-economic development. To a large extent, the current problems of the development and security of Russia are caused by the fact that the decomposition of the family as the fundamental unit of society (by analogy with Western countries) and school and university education and upbringing on the principles of the Bologna education system has led to regularly emerging outbursts of aggression in society and unreleased and new problems in the training of patriots-defenders of the Fatherland.

Prior to the adoption of the 2020 amendments, the concept of "patriotism" was absent in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

In the adopted amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, for the first time in the post-Soviet period, one mention of patriotism was made (in article 67.1, paragraph 4) - and only in terms of raising children:

“The state creates conditions conducive to the all-round spiritual, moral, intellectual and physical development of children, fostering patriotism, citizenship and respect for elders in them”,

that is, it is not engaged in the education of patriotism among young people and the adult population.

For reference: According to the terminology of the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), adolescents are persons aged 10-19 years (early adolescence - 10-14 years; late adolescence - 15-19 years). In the federal law "On youth policy in the Russian Federation" of December 30.12.2020, 489, No. 2-FZ, article 14 states that "youth, young citizens are a socio-demographic group of persons aged 35 to 489, inclusive." At the same time, the most important of No. 4-FZ are Articles 5 (Goals of youth policy) and XNUMX.

The principles of youth policy do not even contain any mention of patriotism.

The mention of patriotism without the formation of directions for its upbringing is only in article 6 (Basic directions for the implementation of youth policy). It should be noted that the law on youth policy in Russia was adopted hastily, was prepared without public and expert discussion (Pershutkin S. N. Games of the liberals. The federal law on youth policy was dragged into the Duma on the sly. Military-industrial courier No. 5 (868). 9.02.2021 .XNUMX).

In other articles of the Constitution, including those describing the functions and tasks of power and executive structures, there is a large list of issues to be resolved without considering patriotic education. Thus, article 114, clause 1, dedicated to the functions of the Government of the Russian Federation, provides an impressive list of tasks to be solved, for example: the formation of a responsible attitude towards animals in society, the development of a system of environmental education of citizens, the upbringing of environmental culture, the preservation of the country's unique natural and biological diversity, etc. etc.

In pursuance of the introduced amendments to the Constitution, the Federal Law "On Education in the Russian Federation" dated December 29.12.2012, 273 No. XNUMX (as amended and supplemented) has been supplemented with a number of articles. In particular, education is now understood as

“Activities aimed at personal development, creating conditions for self-determination and socialization of students on the basis of socio-cultural, spiritual and moral values ​​and the rules and norms of behavior adopted in Russian society in the interests of a person, family, society and state, the formation of a sense of patriotism, civic consciousness in students, respect for the memory of the defenders of the Fatherland and the heroic deeds of the Heroes of the Fatherland, law and order, a man of labor and the older generation, mutual respect, respect for the cultural heritage and traditions of the multinational people of the Russian Federation, nature and the environment. "

In our opinion, in this definition in the part "formation ..." one could add: "readiness to defend and defend the interests of the Fatherland."

In modern conditions of the standard of living (socio-economic superiority) of the developed countries of the West over Russia and the frenzied imposition of their way of life on us in recent centuries, the role of the ideological component in the system of patriotic education has sharply increased.

In the post-Soviet period, the population of Russia is left to itself, there is no positive ideal and correct guidelines. And it all starts from school, if not from kindergarten. The President of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) A. Sergeev, during the All-Russian Forum "Youth and Science" in May 2021, said that among the serious problems in school education, one should highlight the lack of ideology, which should be based on the values ​​that unite "the country's residents.

It is obvious that patriotism and ideology that meets the needs and aspirations of society are two substances that complement and develop each other. Otherwise, they do not give them the opportunity to develop without each other, or even destroy each other. The upbringing of the younger generation in general and patriotism in particular, without ideological content, is, in fact, a waste of money and time, since there can be no vacuum here, that is, there will definitely be an ideological filling, and it will come from outside. And most likely, it will be not just a stranger, but Russophobic, and the signs may be different, for example, the ideology of chaos being massively introduced by the United States in unwanted countries, depending on the situation - controlled or not controlled.

At the same time, Article 13 of the Constitution stipulates that

“Ideological diversity is recognized in the Russian Federation, and no ideology can be established as state or mandatory”.

Without specifying the provisions of ideological diversity: in the name of the target setting - meeting the needs and progressive development of society - these provisions raise a number of questions.

In particular, uncertainty arises when considering these manifolds. Maybe they are introduced to meet the growing base needs of the individual, which is now very popularized in the media (the ideology of selfishness and dependency, based on the postulate "satisfaction of the needs of the individual above all else")?

And if it is necessary to repay the debt to the Fatherland, that is, the "threat" of conscription into the Armed Forces - the transition to a different ideology "I am a pacifist, weapon defender of the Fatherland - not for me ”, etc.?

Ideological diversity without its detailing can also be considered by some individuals, groups or clusters of society as permissiveness within the gaps of normative legal acts and laws, since, for example, morality and ethics are difficult, but rather impossible to standardize by law.

As a result, the Western know-how of the erosion of the family as a system-forming unit of society is undergoing serious changes in many countries, including Russia. The number of people living in de facto cohabitation is growing all over the world and does not have a clear dependence on the standard of living in a particular country.

For example, according to Wikipedia, back in 1960, about 5% of children in the United States were born to unmarried women, but already in 1980 this figure reached 18%, and in 2009 - 41%. In Europe, the percentage of de facto marriages has also steadily increased over the past decades. According to Eurostat, in 2011, 37,3% of all births in the 27 EU countries were illegitimate. Most children were born out of wedlock in Iceland (64,3%), Estonia (59,7%), Slovenia (56,8%), Bulgaria (56%), Norway (55%), Sweden (54,2%) and France (55%). The share of illegitimate births is significantly lower in Greece (8,1%) and Cyprus (15,2%).

In Russia, almost every third child (30%) in 2010 was born out of wedlock. According to Rosstat, about 14% of all marriages in Russia are not official, that is, they are not registered with the registry office. According to opinion polls, about 40% of the young population of Russia does not want to officially register family relations. They prefer to live in a so-called "civil marriage". In this case, this wording means the cohabitation of a man and a woman, that is, from the standpoint of Christianity, this is fornication.

All of the above means that the globalist structures are carrying out a purposeful destruction or, at least, the decomposition of the family as the fundamental unit of society. At the same time, one can only guess about the consequences of such relations between spouses on the patriotic upbringing of children, not to mention same-sex marriages, gender equality, the influence of the feminist movement, etc.

What family in the future will the newly-born defender of the Fatherland from such a family protect? This is a rhetorical question.

It should also not be forgotten that in the first months of 2021, the US administration officially announced a very tough ideology of confrontation with Russia, and this is not just "who is not with us, he is against us." In ideological terms, the President of the United States declared unsubstantiated that for the United States (and, consequently, NATO) Russia is not just enemy number 1, its president (the main leader of the country) is a murderer. Russia, apparently, will never wait for an official apology from the United States.

At the same time, it must be admitted that the amended Constitution lacks the goals of the development of Russia, its multinational people and social world order. That is, in world history, the "Russian ship" for the last three decades has been sailing like a state without the goal of its development and the state ideology of building society. Without this, it is impossible, in our opinion, to build a sovereign Russian state, which, under the conditions of various force majeure circumstances, would reliably unite various segments of the population.

These questions are not easy and require deep study and comprehensive discussion, both at the federal and regional levels.

In these conditions, from the standpoint of a systematic approach, the implementation of the above principles of patriotism, in our opinion, cannot be complete - only local successes in the patriotic education of certain segments of the population and, accordingly, in the level of patriotism of the defenders of the Fatherland are possible.

Speaking about the formation of patriotism among various strata of the population and nationalities of the Russian Federation and its qualitative assessment (measuring patriotism in terms of indicators - a quantitative assessment, in our opinion, is not correct due to the lack of reliable initial data and corresponding logical and mathematical models), the following should be noted.

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Without state ideology, there can be no unifying principle of various strata of society and, accordingly, full-fledged patriotism. Ideology is akin to information. If there is no information, then this is also information. So it is with ideology: there is no state ideology - this is also an ideology: live, observe federal laws and go where you want both morally and morally (there are no laws of the Federal Assembly here); but then what kind of patriotism can we talk about?

At the same time, it is not clear in the name of what the state called "Russia" should be built and what goals does it achieve? Although there is no ideology (state ideology) that unites society today, nevertheless, in the absence and prohibition of official ideology, support for the liberal ideology of the comprador elite, which, in the name of its own survival, encourages and does everything possible to lead the Russian Federation to the loss of sovereignty, to the so-called “ integration into Western civilization ”. The results are already there and very impressive.

We can recall Nikolai Desyatnichenko, also known as "Kolya from Urengoy", who made a speech in the Bundestag of the Federal Republic of Germany, where the Stalingrad cauldron was called "so-called", and the Wehrmacht soldiers were called "innocent people who died." This, of course, is not such an outright mockery of the historical memory of the people, as a video from the Internet with people frying sausages on the Eternal Flame, but hardly less destructive in the social sense. The memory of the Great Patriotic War is sacred. There is no doubt that today's youth more than ever needs education - they must know about the unfading feat of Soviet soldiers who saved both the world and European civilization.

In the West, clans of globalists under the auspices of “freedom” and “democracy” have placed at the forefront and are massively introducing the ideology of destroying everything national and ethnic on the basis of “democratic” (perverted) values ​​that are imposed on the rest of the world.

The so-called "Western values": these are turbo-capitalism, critical racial theory, militant atheism, imperialism, multiculturalism, gender fluidity, etc. The task is set: the concepts of the state, family, sex differences should be as blurred as possible in order to form an absolutely homogeneous society. A person without properties - without historical, family memory, without gender, without identity; naturally, this is easy to manage.

In contrast to this ideology, the movement of nationalists is growing (for example, in the FRG). In China, under the guise of communism, in fact, state capitalism dominates. The ideology of Nazism is being revived along the perimeter of the territory of the Russian Federation.

In this situation, the question becomes not idle: what can we oppose to foreign doctrines of the ideological education of the younger generation?

So, for example, B. Bezpalko in the article "The national idea of ​​Russia will be able to attract foreigners" (Zhurnalisticheskaya Pravda, 23.05.2021) suggests:

"Our ideology can be what is now rejected in the West: a moderate ideology aimed at saving the people, at preserving their national and ethnic traditions, at positioning our state as an ark of conservative values."

In other words, "Russian ideology should be aimed at combining conservative values, national conservation and its material well-being." This is a good postulate, basically formed earlier by A.I. Solzhenitsyn, for a small country like Hungary. When almost the entire Western world has united with the aim of destroying Russia as a state and taking over (“biting off”) the most tasty morsels of its territory, such an ideology is not viable.

We need the unity of all segments of the population, the mobilization of the country, but not on the indicated provisions of passive protection. Other principles should be used: everything for the active defense of the Motherland (providing everything necessary for its three main allies - the army, fleet and the military-industrial complex); strengthening its sovereignty; high-tech development; position in the international arena; import substitution; equality of nations, ethnic groups and members of society; elimination of poverty, poverty, etc.

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Patriotism is not a constant; it is a function of many factors, including temporary ones.

A striking example of the transformation of patriotism from the Soviet and post-Soviet periods is Alexander Alexandrovich Zinoviev (1922–2006), a Soviet dissident, writer, scientist, sociologist and social philosopher. A. A. Zinoviev was a fierce critic of the Soviet political system, for which he was expelled from the country in 1978. But then, while in exile in the West, he reconsidered his views. He returned to his homeland in 1999. Here are a few of his statements, which are very relevant at the present time and show that he was an uncompromising analyst aimed at the prosperity and revival of Russia.

About what the West, above all, feared in the face of the Soviet Union:

“... The West feared not so much the military might of the USSR as its intellectual, artistic and sporting potential. The West saw how full of life the USSR was! And this is the main thing that needs to be destroyed from the enemy. This is exactly what was done ... World domination, first of all, manifests itself as an intellectual or, if you like, cultural diktat ”.

From A. A. Zinoviev's interview with journalist V. Lupan. Published by the French newspaper Le Figaro on July 24.07.1999, 1999. The conversation took place in June XNUMX in Berlin.

In our opinion, this statement largely explains the ongoing attacks of the West, for example, on Russian sports and its growing problems.

On the fact that Russia will never become part of the West:

“No matter how the Russians spit on the communist period of their history, no matter how zealous they are in destroying what has been achieved during this period, no matter how they crawl on their knees and grovel before the West, no matter how they imitate everything Western and no matter how they adopt everything vices of the West, Russia will never become a part of the West anyway. "

A. A. Zinoviev, his book "West", 1995

In modern Russia, a system has been built that assumes individual saturation of your wallet at the expense of everyone else. And therefore the Soviet Union, in which social equality prevailed, to the owners of these wallets was like a bone in the throat. That is, the system has been built, but the mentality of the bulk of the population does not change significantly. Only most of the public values ​​have disappeared.

As a result, the majority of the population has a rhetorical question: who and why should be protected in case of war? - Oligarchs and their property?

About Stalin and the Soviet system:

“The most ideal system for Russian conditions was the Soviet system. This is the pinnacle of history. I am telling you this, I am a man who was an anti-Stalinist from his youth, who should have been shot back in XNUMX for attempting terrorist activities against Stalin ...
I have always regarded Stalin as the greatest political figure of the XNUMXth century. And he did not change his opinion.
Then there were years of study, study, and at the end of my life I affirm that the really Soviet system was the most adequate to Russian conditions ...
In the USSR, there were both positive and negative phenomena, and they are inextricably linked: negative phenomena are inconceivable without positive, and positive without negative.
In the USSR, free education was guaranteed, free medical care, housing was provided free of charge. This is definitely an achievement.
But at the same time it had negative sides - a low standard of living in comparison with the West, people's lack of interest in intensive work, window dressing, etc. "

From the interview of A. A. Zinoviev to the journalist I. Shcheglova, published in 2006 in the "Economic and Philosophical Gazette".

About the fact that Russia in the modern world has not completely overcome its colonial dependence on the West:

“The fight is going on not to the stomach, but to the death. Now the power of Western global capital is so great that it is almost impossible on the planet to create something in which we could compete with them. Everything is under their supervision and well controlled. Everything is being done so that Russia does not become a serious competitor on world markets. "

From an interview with AA Zinoviev "Literaturnaya Gazeta". December 3.12.1997, 49, No. XNUMX.

These quotes show how the West is consistently implementing measures to strangle Russia and that it is destined for the role of a sacrificial calf. As a consequence, Russia cannot become a great power without mass patriotism and state ideology.

At the same time, in the Russian Federation, the perception of the Soviet legacy as a continuation of Russian history in the media is, in fact, rejected, there is no continuity between the Russian and Soviet stages. The Soviet period does not fit into the accepted concept of the development of Russian society; it seems to fall out of the general context of Russian history. This only splits the strata of the population, the older and younger generations.

The third


About mass patriotism.

During the Great Patriotic War, millions of home front workers did everything possible and impossible for the victory of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army. At present, it is difficult to imagine that the majority of the current generation of adolescents is capable and ready, in conditions of everyday and moral and psychological hardship, to stand for 14-16 hours at the machines for months and produce ammunition or other defense products.

During the Second World War, the slogan “everything is for the front, everything is for victory” was the same for everyone: both in the rear and at the front. And this was the guarantee of the Great Victory over fascism.

At present, it has become fashionable in Russia to use the patterns of Western countries to speak and implement trajectories of individual development of students, and starting almost from the elementary grades of secondary schools. Probably, we will soon reach the point that these trajectories will be introduced in kindergartens. This is a path to further stratification and deepening inequality in children and young people. In such a situation, one can only talk about mass patriotism, in reality everything will be exactly the opposite. This is the right way to educate the student without appropriate knowledge and skills of his exclusivity, most likely - soullessness and selfishness, based on protectionism and appropriate financial capabilities. And this is the opposite of patriotic personality development, built on collectivism and healthy competition in the competitive selection of the most gifted and original thinking individuals.

In Russia in the twentieth century, among many other fundamental attitudes in the field of education, fundamentalism, competition and a creative approach were especially appreciated. To enter the "trajectory of individual development", it was necessary to prove and show that the student being taught (student) is worthy of this and is able to effectively implement it.

The Minister of the Ministry of Education and Science of Russia V. N. Falkov in an interview with the correspondent of "Komsomolskaya Pravda" A. Milkus on June 15.06.2020, 200 (Valery Falkov: "Ideal" university of the XXI century: 200 students - XNUMX educational programs ") said:

“The further development of higher education is its individualization. 200 students who came - this is ideally two hundred individual study programs.
There is an internal contradiction here: on the one hand, our higher education is massive, on the other, we must make it more individual ...
Our universities must answer the question: who is at the center of the learning process? Student or teacher?
- We are more and more moving to the fact that there is a student in the center. While maintaining the fundamental nature of education, it is obvious that the student should be more responsible about his future career and should be given the opportunity to choose his personal learning track.
At the same time, the value of personal communication will increase, the student will no longer be able to communicate with the teacher, with the professor as much as now. "

In such a setting, patriotic education in the Higher School, in our opinion, can be forgotten.

Whatever further is said to justify what was said, behind this is the provision of educational services, in fact, partially or completely without upbringing. It is safe to expect that patriotic education, as a rule, will not fit into the “trajectory of its individual development” at the newly emerged “training center” or it will be in a very truncated (most likely distorted) form.

It is no secret that a properly set education and upbringing, in addition to gaining knowledge, skills and abilities, prepares the country for a defender of the Fatherland and an employee who is able to creatively analyze and do what is needed for a long time, although this is not always desirable. In the post-Soviet period, more than one generation learns to do only what the learners want. Now this demand gives rise to more and more offers, especially for wealthy lazy people.

In general, in Russia, in our opinion, there is and is flourishing a misunderstanding, distortion or distortion of the essence of education (intentional or unintentional - this is for qualification by the prosecutor's office, investigative and judicial authorities) of the following main fact. Education is not a simple transfer of knowledge in the form of a “service” or the creation of a future “product”, it is, first of all, the professional transfer of knowledge, skills and abilities of a learning creative personality in close relationship with education in the broadest sense: from the upbringing of a culture of communication, love to the Motherland before the preparation and education of a specialist-patriot of the highest level. Only in this way can the code of Russian civilization be passed on to future generations.

Nor should the problem of fostering patriotism be blamed on Western propaganda.

In the 1990s, everything was allowed to discredit the Soviet period. Remember the book breakdowns with millions of copies of Rezun's forgeries. Remember the films where the main character becomes and still is the monster-NKVD. On this our youth was brought up and continues to be brought up.

Back in September 2002, President George W. Bush (Jr.) announced that, if necessary, the United States would act preemptively against Russia and other unwanted countries (see S. Russov, "The West is Preparing for Russia a New June 22," June 22.06.2021, XNUMX, " Military Review ").

What this means became clear 4 years later, when Congress approved the National Security Strategy, which officially enshrined the essence of preemptive war. Structurally, it looks like this: regime change - building a new nation - "rebuilding" the country.

The purpose of this type of war is to change the cultural and civilizational essence of the state-forming people and to remove them from the rights to their own subsoil and resources, which are forever transferred to the use of the global corporations of the “golden billion”. The results of a "conventional" war can be revised over time (and are often revised), but the results of pre-emptive actions are fixed forever.

The most important element of such a war is indirect violence: economic, ideological, political, informational and psychological, and others. It must be admitted that it is impossible to resist this without effective education of patriotism in the bulk of the country's population.

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In a social state and society, such as Soviet socialism, it was sad to live for those who were used to thinking only about themselves, their own well-being. Under Russian “market capitalism,” life is hard for those who are able and willing to think about others, to help them and society and the country as a whole.

Obviously, it is not easy to prepare patriots-defenders of the Fatherland on the basis of the slogan of the 90s embedded in the minds of strata of the population: “Through the enrichment of everyone for the well-being of all”. In our opinion, this is impossible. We have to admit that in Russia for the population in recent decades, the axiom has become massive: "the personal good is a priority, that is, it wins the public." On this basis, instilling patriotism among the defenders of the Fatherland is problematic, and with further deepening of the stratification of society, it becomes more and more counterproductive.

This happens if only because the current system of production of "successful" people instills strange values ​​based on the following postulate: and other benefits, knowledge, position and the like? If this does not work, then it is possible to steal, that is, to steal, as much as possible and as legally as possible ”? In other words, “life on the brink of a foul” is normal for such a person or groups of people.

Obviously, when such sentiments prevail in society, it greatly undermines the very statehood, as such, not to mention patriotism. This system is accompanied by a massive decrease in the level of education, morality, morality and culture of members of society in the country, an increase in the number of beggars, homeless people, homeless people in the regions and, as a result, cases of corruption, hazing that have not been eliminated in the Armed Forces, sometimes reaching the execution of their colleagues, and dr.

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The problem of fostering patriotism is only part of the formation of a socially oriented state and its effective protection. Without solving the problems of state structure and socio-economic development of society, it is impossible to educate patriots and defenders of the Fatherland loyal to the multinational people of Russia.

According to the Chairman of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation in the article “Return of the State. The capacity of the authorities is being tested in a nationwide trouble "(Rossiyskaya Gazeta - Federal Issue No. 105 (8456) 17.05.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX),

“Human rights are the basis of patriotism, the source of the strength of a civilized state ...
For very, very many, the right to continue their historical existence is dearer than material well-being ...
The transition to the rule of law and a rule of law social state is by no means completed ...
At the same time, in the globalized world, the place of the state, displacing it, is gradually being taken by various kinds of transnational structures, and the family is beginning to be replaced by virtually fleeting "friends" in social networks and the system of consumer lending.
As a result, instead of a citizen, a type of cosmopolitan atomic individual is born, a “new nomad” who can easily change his place of residence, citizenship and occupation ”.

Of course, one should agree with these provisions, given by the author of the article.

At the same time, the article emphasizes that

“The current transition of Russia from a totalitarian system to a rule-of-law social state takes into account the Soviet experience of lawlessness and its consequences. Comprehension of this experience and the reasons that gave rise to it is necessary in order "not to step on the same rake."
More than a hundred years ago, Russia was unable to respond to an essentially analogous challenge from history. The transition from autocracy to a constitutional monarchy, and then to a bourgeois republic, ended in a historic catastrophe in October 1917.
Here, the ideological split inherent in our society is especially vividly manifested. This split, which has deep social roots, became at one time the reason for the breakdown of the country into the bloodshed of revolution and civil war.
And the Soviet socialism that was established as a result of these events, in a sense, can be viewed as a violent attempt to overcome the social split.
Russia, on the one hand, is in a state of stunning transformations and a leap into the digital future, in many respects it is becoming a world leader, and on the other hand, it is in the grip of an economic crisis, the danger of social division, corruption, external illegal economic sanctions and the Cold War.
The hands of Russia's historical clock show a point of bifurcation, at which nostalgia for the outdated Soviet modernist project met and the image of today's Russian post-socialism, distorted in bizarre metamorphoses, with its loss of ideals and an indefinite “image of the future”.
The legal consciousness of the population and its elite, which had been neglected for the previous 70 years, was again tested, only this time the opposite - the test of lack of ideology, consumerism, “blind and slavish” imitation ”.

To this, the following comments can be made.

Note 1


The first thing that can be noted is that if there had not been a "historical catastrophe in October 1917", then with a very high probability Russia in the second decade of the twentieth century would have ceased to exist as a single state with a long history.

The Soviet Union, in fact, saved our civilization, and, accordingly, there would be no attempts to revive the Russian Empire on the basis of the Russian Federation.

And what has been done in post-Soviet Russia in 30 years to overcome the "ideological split"?

Practically nothing, including within the framework of the updated version of the Constitution.

For example, its ideological provisions have not been eliminated, but, in fact, they are laying a mine of no longer delayed action in society. In our opinion, which is confirmed by Rosstat data, further stratification of society (not only financial), and, consequently, its split only deepens.

In this regard, the above-mentioned provision in the Constitution on the education of patriotism, in fact, is a "duty phrase" and is not indicated in any way for concretization and implementation by the executive bodies.

Note 2


Second. If “human rights are the basis of patriotism” (and this is true), and it was so massively manifested during the Great Patriotic War, then, probably, one should not so denigrate the legal system of the Russian state of the Soviet period, which, by the way, nurtured, including and the current head of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation?

Obviously, the legal system of the Soviet Union was adequate to that period, since the firmness and patriotism of the defenders of the Fatherland and the overwhelming mass of Soviet people were able to ensure the victory of the Soviet Union over European fascism, over almost all of Europe?

It is clear that this patriotic education system was much higher than the current legal system. That is, the "Soviet experience of lawlessness" from the lips of the Chairman of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation is very reminiscent of the statements of the "fifth column" inside Russia and permanent falsifications from the West to denigrate the Soviet period.

Of course, the legal system of that period is not acceptable to the living conditions of the population of the Russian Federation in the XXI century - it was created for the poorest, illiterate country, which is rolling into the abyss, and by building the initial stage of socialism successfully fulfilled its tasks of saving the Fatherland. Only a non-patriot of Russia can deny this. The ideological opponent of Stalinism A.A.Zinoviev realized this and recognized the merits of I.V. Stalin to the Fatherland, and therefore he can be attributed to a cohort of doubting, but real patriots.

This, in our opinion, is the main root of the current problems.

This is the rejection of the current power structures of the Soviet period, an unsystematic (local and even crafty) search for negative aspects in the 70-year history of the tough confrontation of a multinational country, whose peoples acted as a united front against the united West not only during the Great Patriotic War, but also until the mid-80s. x years of the twentieth century. In March 1991, they also voted en masse to preserve the USSR. Therefore, it is erroneous to call Soviet socialism simply “an attempt to overcome the ideological split of society”, because millions of workers and pensioners still nostalgic for it not only in Russia, but also in the former republics of the Soviet Union.

Note 3


Third. The author's calls to the current oligarchs for an insight in understanding the aspirations of the people, even to the layman, not to mention experts and researchers, remind not one, but several fables of I. A. Krylov (for example, "The Wolf and the Lamb"):

“It is necessary that not only the people love the state, so that our“ powerful of this world ”- who, breaking away from the people and opposing their chosenness to its simplicity, put their material well-being above all else - should see their sight and see that their well-being exists insofar as because there is a people and a state.
So that they understand the main truth, which is already well understood in other countries. We realized that the XNUMXst century does not at all promise the notorious world idyll. We realized that their material wealth and, most importantly, the sources of these benefits in the absence of the state are alienated in the most elementary way. "

In this regard, Karl Marx in the book "Capital" in the XNUMXth century clearly wrote:

“Provide capital with 10% profit, and capital agrees to any use, at 20% it becomes lively, at 50% it is positively ready to break its head, at 100% it violates all human laws, at 300% there is no crime that it does not I would have dared to go, at least on pain of the gallows. "

From the standpoint of "snatching" for oneself, nothing has changed from the current "moneybags": in the West it has only more camouflaged forms.

This is also one of the main reasons for the slippage in patriotic education: people during the Great Patriotic War defended common national values, and the current generations of workers are not ready to defend the property of a separate group of people who illegally profited in the 90s of the twentieth century on the so-called "privatization" Soviet legacy.

Ultimately, patriotism should be expressed in the ability, readiness and accomplishment of a military or labor feat in the name of the Motherland, the Fatherland. And you can go to this all your life or do it spontaneously.

That is, the feat on the physical plane, as it is usually understood, is on a large scale just a part of the Spiritual Feat (see Conversations of a friend. Publishing house "SIRIN". M. 1999).

“Such a Feat means action on all planes of existence at the same time, without dividing into physical and astral. This action does not mean an impulse, but a long striving towards a common goal.
And if this is understood in this way, then all life, striving towards the Highest, should be called a feat, and this feat should be accomplished.
It can manifest itself on the physical plane - in a single action striking people. It may not amaze anyone, not be noticed by anyone, and pass through the whole life of a person walking along a straight path.
We must remember this and follow an inconspicuous path. "

Sixth. The criteria of patriotism, including those given in the aforementioned article "Criteria of patriotism in Russia," should be specifically tied to the object of research and the conditions for their manifestation. In utility theory, there are the concepts of "efficiency" and "efficiency". In practice and in the media, they are often confused.

In order to understand the essence of what has been said, we will illustrate two examples.

First example


The name of Alexei Petrovich Maresyev, fighter pilot, hero of the Soviet Union, who did not just beat the Nazi invaders, but did it very effectively, losing both legs (his result: he shot down more enemy aircraft after their amputation than before). The effectiveness of his presence at the front echoed throughout the country. The name of A.P. Maresyev was known to every boy in the USSR.

Dedicated to him "The Story of a Real Man" by Boris Polevoy was an integral part of the school curriculum and military-patriotic education, this book is now excluded from the school curriculum. Only in aviation a similar feat, marked with awards during the Great Patriotic War in the fight against fascism, was performed by more than a dozen disabled veterans. Unfortunately, "perestroika" and the subsequent years of society's renunciation of the country's great past cast a shadow of oblivion on these patriots and heroes.

Second example


Under the current conditions (when, as the President of the Russian Federation put it, even information about the Battle of Stalingrad is missing in the history textbooks), a student who graduated from school with a gold medal, that is, who has an excellent academic result with such a "patriotic" education, is not a fact that he will become a patriot. It is possible that all his efforts are aimed at obtaining a foreign grant, since this is highly welcomed in our "elite" circles.

This example shows that the effectiveness of training such a student (in the future, a foreign or Russian student) for the country is not just zero - it can become negative: if in the future this qualified specialist emigrates to the West to firms aimed at discrediting or military-technical confrontation with RF. It is obvious that such unique scientists as Pyotr Leonidovich Kapitsa, a Soviet physicist who spent a long time on probation in Great Britain, who did a lot for the implementation of the Soviet atomic project and not only, the Nobel Prize laureate (1978), twice Hero of Socialist Labor (1945, 1974) - in there was little history of our Fatherland.

These examples clearly show that the high effectiveness of the training of the defender of the Fatherland (specialist) will also be its high efficiency in realizing the interests of the country, first of all, in real conditions of character testing and on specific examples that give food for thought and the formation of one's own “I” of a patriot.

The article "Criteria of Patriotism in Russia" correctly points out that material assessments based on the cost / benefit criterion reduce the issue of patriotism to one of the forms of vulgar materialism. Without an assessment of the spiritual component, this criterion is inoperable, and it is very problematic to give its quantitative assessment.

In our opinion, if this criterion is followed, it turns out that A.P. Maresyev is more patriotic than the fighter Alexander Matveevich Matrosov, who closed the embrasure of the enemy's bunker with his body (similarly, more than 2,5 hundred soldiers of the Red Army performed such a feat in the Great Patriotic War ), and this ensured the solution of the combat mission of the platoon during the attack.

That is, from the standpoint of modern pragmatists, the return from the pilot-officer A. M. Maresyev (his "usefulness") is greater than from the ordinary infantryman A. M. Matrosov, in other words, the level of his patriotism is higher. From the point of view of causing damage to the enemy, this is so, but from a moral and ethical standpoint, it is blasphemy.

Or how to assess the level of patriotism of the great universal science of the twentieth century, Academician of the USSR Academy of Sciences L. D. Landau?

He refused to directly participate in the "atomic" project of IV Kurchatov and LP Beria and unattractively assessed the "instrumental errors" in the analysis of the results of Kharkov scientists on the fission of the uranium atom in the creation of an atomic bomb, described in the aforementioned article?

In our opinion, mistakes are inevitable for everyone involved in real business, especially at the forefront of science. For just one textbook on physics for a secondary school, on which many generations of physicists and engineers studied (this three-volume, by the way, is currently recommended for use only in very few educational institutions), it deserves very high marks.

The 1962 Nobel Prize laureate in physics, L. D. Landau, had many opportunities to emigrate from the Soviet Union, but he preferred to devote his whole life to the science of our country. His cooperation, for example, with K.P. Stanyukovich on the theoretical aspects of the creation of ammunition was exceptionally highly productive. In his work with KP Stanyukovich, LD Landau studied the problem of detonation of condensed explosives and calculated the rate of outflow of their products. They were able to solve the problem of a strong converging shock wave. The term "Landau - Stanyukovich self-similar regime" has entered into science.

It can also be recalled that in the first months of the Great Patriotic War, due to the miscalculations of the Supreme High Command and the inept leadership of the commanders of many military formations, according to various estimates, from 1,5 to 3 million Red Army (KA) servicemen were captured by the Wehrmacht. From this composition of servicemen, not to mention the captured spacecraft servicemen for all the years of the Great Patriotic War, the Hitlerite command did not manage to form more or less combat-ready forces from the traitors of the Fatherland.

The total number of traitors is significantly less than 1-3% (from the standpoint of mathematical statistics - this is at the level of statistical error) of the number of servicemen who ended up in concentration camps and other casemates in Germany and their satellites. The captured soldiers suffered hunger, bullying, went to their deaths in gas chambers, etc., so as not to turn out to be traitors, not to take up arms against the Motherland. Is this not the highest degree of mass patriotism of prisoners of war, knowing that they will not be welcomed in their homeland after being released from concentration camps ?!

For reference (Wikipedia): in Germany, as part of the Wehrmacht in 1942-1944, the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) was created as the largest military formation from among Soviet prisoners of war who had changed their oath, and local policemen who wanted to fight the Soviet regime from the occupied Soviet republics ... The practical creation of the ROA began after the establishment of the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia, which was formed in Prague on November 14, 1944. The committee, equivalent to the government in exile, established the Armed Forces of the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia, which the ROA became. In total, from November 1944 to January 1945, three divisions of the ROA were created (two of them were never completed). By the end of April 1945, the ROA consisted of: 3 infantry divisions, a training reserve brigade, several separate units, an officer's school, 2 reconnaissance schools and 4 aviation squadrons. During the war, there were two clashes with the Red Army, reflected by historians, during which the ROA lost 370 people killed, the losses of the Red Army in these clashes are unknown.

Taking into account the above provisions, when assessing patriotism, it is proposed (see table) to use the following methodological approach, based on the consideration of four levels of patriotism.

Assessment levels of the state of patriotism and their characteristics


Levels of patriotism (characteristic):

1. High. All the main and non-main indicators (indicators) of patriotism are within the threshold values, and the spiritual and moral level of the bulk of the population (multinational people and their ethnic groups, individuals) and the degree of readiness of their existing potential fully comply with the established norms and development goals of the country. The morale of the military formations of the power ministries and departments (first of all, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation) is at a high level.

2. Acceptable. Non-compliance of at least one of the non-main indicators or several of them (no more than ¼ of their total set) with the threshold values, and the main indicators approached the barrier values. At the same time, opportunities were not lost to improve socio-economic conditions and the results of the life of the population and law enforcement agencies through the adoption of preventive measures. The morale of the military formations of power ministries and departments (first of all, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation) is at a fairly high (acceptable) level.

3. Pre-crisis. The discrepancy between less than half (but more than ¼) of non-main indicators and (or) at least one, but not more than 1/4 of the main indicators of patriotism to threshold values. There are signs of the irreversibility of the disintegration of society (first of all, its further stratification) and a partial loss of the country's spiritual and moral potential due to a decrease in the material and spiritual standard of living of the bulk of the population and the exhaustion of resources for uniting society. There is an increase in hazing among servicemen, their morale leaves much to be desired.

4. Critical. More than 1/4 of the main indicators of patriotism do not meet the threshold values ​​and / or at least half (50% or more) of the non-main indicators do not meet the requirements. At the same time, the foundations of the life of the population and the main barriers that determine the stable state and socio-economic development of society are violated, and a partial loss of spiritual and moral potential becomes not only inevitable and inevitable, but also leads to the collapse of the state. There is fermentation and extremist calls in the military environment.

The list, composition and characteristics of the main and non-main (additional) indicators is the subject of a separate study.

In our opinion, the main indicators (indicators) can include:

* The degree to which the system of state and international law functioning in the Russian Federation corresponds to the goals and objectives of the patriotic education of the younger generation, various segments of the population and the military.
For the initial assumptions, see paragraph XNUMX above. Local assessments of systems of state and international law and their comprehensive consideration should be carried out by independent experts.

* The degree of adequacy of the current state information policy, taking into account the intensification of the struggle for Russian youth by foreign special services, information and global business structures and others (based on estimates of independent experts).

A special influence on the younger generation in the West is given to foreign media, including show business, IT business, and media business.

The US National Security Strategy explicitly states:

"States are taking the lead in building relationships with youth around the world, identifying future leaders in government, business and civil society."

The role of youth and entrepreneurs as a driving force of change in the new century is emphasized.

The target is not just brainwashing and psychological treatment of young consciousness with the help of powerful advertising and marketing campaigns, but also specific calls for protests and other actions, including through the use of the “fifth column” and information and communication systems of the Russian Federation from within.

* Ratio of cash incomes of 10% of the richest Russians and 10% of the poorest Russians (Rosstat data).

The share of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level in 2020, according to Rosstat (see Vesti. Ekonomika, 10.02.2021), decreased to 12,1% of the country's population from 12,3% in 2019. According to the department, in 2020 the number of Russians with incomes below the subsistence level amounted to 17,8 million (18,1 million in 2019). In general, in 2020, the 10% of the richest Russians accounted for 29,9% of the total monetary income of the Russian population. The 10% of the poorest Russians accounted for 2,1% of the total monetary income of the country's population. That is, the overall ratio of the wealthiest Russians to the poor is about 14: 1. In the Republic of Belarus, this ratio before the known conflict events was approximately 6: 1.

* Dynamics of the population of the Russian Federation (Rosstat data). The natural decline in the population of Russia in 2020 amounted to 688,7 thousand people, follows from the data of Rosstat in 2021. The number of deaths in January-December 2020 amounted to 2,124 million people and increased compared to 2019 by 18% (in January-December 2019, the number of deaths was 1,8 million).

* The level of development of the education system and the upbringing of patriotism in the school and university environment, as well as the vocational education system (SVE) (based on the assessments of independent experts).

According to Rosstat, in 2020 the education system at the beginning of the 2020/21 academic year covered more than 30,5 million children and youth, including 7,4 million preschoolers of all ages (from 3 to 7 years old - 6,4 million people, from 2 months to 3 years - 1 million), 16,9 million schoolchildren, 3,3 million students in vocational education and 4 million students in the higher education system, including 2,4 million full-time students (60%). At the same time, if the number of students in the secondary vocational education system continues to grow steadily (an increase of 216,6 thousand people in 2020 compared to 2019), then the number of university students has a steady downward trend (in 2020 by 19 thousand people compared to with 2019).

As non-main indicators, it is proposed to use the assessments of independent experts to determine the degree of influence on the education of patriotism of trainees, various segments of the population and military personnel of key events from a large set of them, carried out:

• government agencies (for example, the Patriot Military-Patriotic Park of Culture and Leisure of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation);

• public organizations (for example, "Yunarmiya" - the All-Russian children and youth military patriotic social movement;

• The Boris N. Yeltsin Presidential Center, or the Yeltsin Center, is a public, cultural and educational center created by the BN Yeltsin Presidential Center Foundation. Yeltsin ”- a non-profit socio-political organization;

• other structures and organizations, for example, DOSAAF - Voluntary Society for Assistance to the Army, Aviation and Navy of Russia, an all-Russian public and state organization.

Spiritual strategy


In general, summing up, it can be noted that the education of mass patriotism in a society should be carried out on the basis of spiritual strategy of Russia's national security, which needs to be justified, worked out, approved at the federal level and implemented in accordance with the existing and projected challenges and threats of the XNUMXst century.
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  1. +54
    27 September 2021 11: 08
    Patriotism is when the citizens of your country live better and longer than the citizens of many, many, many .... other countries.
    Everything else blah blah blah blah ...
    And what is now happening in Russia, when the population is decreasing by several hundred thousand people a year, is more likely a genocide carried out by the country's oligarchic leadership.
    1. +8
      27 September 2021 11: 17
      Well, Yuri Dmitritch gave it to the land of coal! laughing I was tortured to read! To begin with, we need a state, national ideology as a whole! Why, in the thirty years that have passed after the collapse of the USSR, we have not been able to formulate a national or state ideology? The only thing that has been formed well is the ideology of consumerism! And from purchase and sale to patriotism - an abyss!
      1. +34
        27 September 2021 11: 41
        Without state ideology, there can be no unifying principle of various strata of society and, accordingly, full-fledged patriotism ...

        In fact, ideology is present today - it is the enrichment and security of the ruling class. sad
        1. +12
          27 September 2021 12: 36
          More precisely: get rich or die.
      2. +19
        27 September 2021 12: 18
        Quote: Finches
        Why, in the thirty years that have passed after the collapse of the USSR, we have not been able to formulate a national or state ideology? The only thing that has been formed well is the ideology of consumerism! And from purchase and sale to patriotism - an abyss!

        Oh-oh! Where are the zaputintsy flooded, give them ideology, that without ideology Putin no longer loves? They loved for 20 years, but that one wassat
        cut through laughing
        1. -24
          27 September 2021 12: 24
          And what does Putin have to do with it ?? By the way, VVP periodically tries to start a conversation about the state or national ideology of Russia. Last year he threw in the formula: "The greatness of Russia, the dignity of citizens."
          1. +37
            27 September 2021 12: 44
            Quote: Finches
            By the way, VVP periodically tries to start a conversation about the state or national ideology of Russia.

            And you did not notice .. that he is always just trying .. but he never succeeds .. then he asks for understanding .. Maybe he is not in his place? Well, if it doesn't work out ... with the rise in fuel prices, with the pension reform, with 20 million jobs, with the withdrawal of money over the hillock ... well, I didn’t smack .. the population is rapidly decreasing .. but I grabbed onto the chair with a stranglehold .. How do you feel about the real deeds and promises of the president? Who is stopping him for 20 years already?
            1. -26
              27 September 2021 13: 10
              By the way, VVP, in principle, also designated its position similar to that of the author, answering the relevant question: "Regarding the Constitution and the ideology in it ... Ideology, in my opinion, is only one possible - patriotism, in the broadest, best sense of the word. This should be depoliticized, but aimed at strengthening the internal foundations of the Russian state."
              As for in his place or not in his place, then apparently in his own, since the people choose it by a majority of votes! Don't you think?
              1. +20
                27 September 2021 13: 15
                Quote: Finches
                As for in his place or not in his place, then apparently in his own, since the people choose it by a majority of votes! Don't you think?

                No, I don’t find it .. I don’t believe in the honesty of the elections .. I have a lot of examples of how they take place in reality .. He chooses himself, just like the EP this time chose itself. Thus, exacerbating the already huge gap between the people and the ruling class ...
                And you never gave your assessment of the guarantor's jabbering ... who forbids it? Or is the question not convenient?
                1. -26
                  27 September 2021 13: 31
                  In the elections to the Duma, the average turnout in Russia was slightly more than 40%. That is, 60% (I am one of them) scored in the elections - these people either think that nothing depends on them or they are satisfied with everything (I am one of them). So nothing really needs to be forged - pensioners (mostly) and state employees go to the polls! And do not think that they are all against United Russia or Putin! Or here is one of the classic examples from the polling station about the logic of the voter:
                  One of the candidates from the United Russia party had an official income of 180 rubles (this is in the region where the pension is 000 rubles, and the average salary barely reaches 000 rubles). And this granny responsibly and convincingly tells me that it is necessary to vote for him. Because he has already stolen, and if you choose someone else, the new candidate will start stealing.
                  1. +19
                    27 September 2021 14: 41
                    Quote: Finches
                    And this granny responsibly and convincingly tells me that it is necessary to vote for him. Because he has already stolen, and if you choose someone else, the new candidate will start stealing.

                    "Fresh food .." How many years of this bike, they say it got drunk, and someone else will come to crumble everything, for 30 years I have heard these mantras, to this my answer is "Appetite comes with eating."
                    1. -16
                      27 September 2021 14: 43
                      Personally, I don't care - the bike is an example of some people's logic!
                      1. +8
                        27 September 2021 15: 07
                        [quote = Zyablitsev] Personally, I do not care - a bike as an example of the logic of some people!
                        [/ quo And the same, [quote = Zyablitsev] suits everything (I am one of them). Betrayed the Motherland, and violated the oath.
                      2. -14
                        27 September 2021 15: 55
                        Do not judge, but let us not be judged! hi
                      3. +7
                        27 September 2021 16: 02
                        Quote: Finches
                        Do not judge, but let us not be judged!

                        One question, where were you in August 91, and what were your actions?
                      4. -7
                        27 September 2021 16: 09
                        We had a rest laughing
                      5. +9
                        27 September 2021 16: 19
                        Quote: Finches
                        We had a rest

                        I did not expect another, laughing , they must have been tired, trochs for themselves, paddled, hard work, I understand ... wink
                      6. +20
                        27 September 2021 16: 24
                        Quote: Finches
                        Do not judge, but let us not be judged!

                        Colleague, but about the oath, that's all right.
                        For 30 years now I have been tormented by the question of why the army betrayed the USSR and, in fact, the officers were perjurers, and now they are ready to “cut off” the heads of their fellow citizens in the name of Putinism and for the sake of its protection.
                        Now, the same people have become fierce "patriots" and they call me to patriotism, talking about some spiritual bonds, about "good" power, "excellent" people's life.
                        What the hell is this? What right do they have?
                        And here, whatever one may say, but the KGB / MIA and the officers of the USSR Armed Forces are the main culprits of the fall of the USSR. And these conversations about "there was no order," and so on. garbage in vegetable oil to whitewash yourself, but "you can't wash a black dog to white."
                      7. 0
                        27 September 2021 16: 59
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        to whitewash yourself,

                        Let's not delve into our own history, take a look at our neighbors, the Maidan, the seizure of weapons in the Western Ukraine, the seizure of Crimea, but what about the army? , briskly walked to the East, which is why among those who were hung with medals there were not a couple of three adequately ready to take on everything?
                      8. +6
                        27 September 2021 17: 10
                        Quote: edmed
                        Let's not delve into our own history, take a look at our neighbors, the Maidan, the seizure of weapons in the West, the seizure of Crimea, and what about the army?

                        I don't even want to discuss my neighbors, and I will not, I will only note one thing that in 2014 they did not have an army, they had a name, but no army. hi
                      9. +4
                        27 September 2021 17: 27
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        I don't even want to discuss my neighbors and I won't,

                        And this is correct, but this is an indicator of what happened in the USSR in 91, where there were the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB, and the Army, and 20 million carriers of party cards, and there were not a couple of people exposed by the authorities who did not stop the bacchanalia.
                      10. +9
                        27 September 2021 17: 43
                        Quote: edmed
                        and 20 million carriers of party cards

                        But here I will argue! The party members were mostly unarmed people, but from the party members of the army, the KGB / Ministry of Internal Affairs, one should ask special questions, because they violated two oaths both to the people and the party!
                        And I repeat, these clever guys, now repainted, are now broadcasting for a "new" life and shouting that they will carry out the order to shoot civilian troublemakers.
                        They call for patriotism, it would be better to keep quiet in a rag and atone for sins.
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                      12. 0
                        27 September 2021 17: 10
                        Why did the army, called upon to defend the constitutional order and subsequently gorging on humiliation in the 90s, actually let the situation take its course? Why not one general called on the army to defend the Union ... This is a very interesting question in general! However, feeble attempts to arrest Yeltsin's gang in the White House were made! The operation received the code name "Thunder" and was developed under the leadership of the deputy chairman of the KGB of the USSR, Colonel-General Ageev and deputy. Minister of Defense of the USSR Colonel-General Achalov. But two gallant generals leaked this plan to Yeltsin and his supporters. One general's name was Pavel Grachev, commander of the Airborne Forces, another Sasha Lebed, commander of the Tula Airborne Division.

                        From the memoirs of Colonel Baranets:

                        "... Having treated Shaposhnikov to coffee, the president made a long and ardent speech about the need to save the Union. At the end of it, Mikhail Sergeevich said words that scalded Yevgeny Ivanovich:
                        - You, the military, take power into your own hands, plant a government convenient for you, stabilize the situation and go aside ...
                        The frightened Shaposhnikov objected, they say, such an action could end with "Matrosskaya Tishina". Realizing that the marshal was not the right person to bet on, Gorbachev backed up:
                        - What are you, Zhenya? I'm not offering you anything, I'm just laying out the options. "


                        It should be emphasized that, in the case of the military, the disintegration of the USSR into national states was additionally "covered", at first, by the preservation of a unified Armed Forces through the establishment of the Joint Armed Forces of the CIS, and then by a "transitional period" that lasted until December 31, 1994 To inquiries from military units in Moscow, they replied that the adoption of the new oath does not contradict the old ...
                      13. +9
                        27 September 2021 17: 20
                        Quote: Finches
                        One general's name was Pavel Grachev, commander of the Airborne Forces, another Sasha Lebed, commander of the Tula Airborne Division.

                        The betrayal of the two (mats), which are now both feeding the worms, does not abolish the responsibility of all the USSR Armed Forces, namely the officers.
                      14. +2
                        27 September 2021 17: 22
                        Yes, if there were only two of them ... But then a fact called the role of personality in history played! After the GKChP, the Volkogonov commission launched a stormy activity in the Ministry of Defense, which carried out a total purge of all opponents of Bori-Democrat: 8 deputy defense ministers, 9 chiefs of central and main directorates of the Ministry of Defense and General Staff, 7 commanders of military districts and fleets were dismissed from their posts, and instead of them, people loyal to Shaposhnikov, read to Yeltsin, were appointed.
                      15. +8
                        27 September 2021 17: 35
                        Quote: Finches
                        Yes, if there were only two ... But then a fact called the role of personality in history played!

                        There is an officer, there is an oath and an officer's honor! Everything!
                        The rest is verbiage.
                        After the GKChP, the Volkogonov commission launched a stormy activity in the Ministry of Defense, which carried out a total purge of all opponents of Bori-Democrat: 8 deputy defense ministers, 9 chiefs of central and main directorates of the Ministry of Defense and General Staff, 7 commanders of military districts and fleets were dismissed from their posts, and instead of them, people loyal to Shaposhnikov, read to Yeltsin, were appointed.

                        This is their punishment for treacherous inaction, and the second was in Chechnya.
                      16. 0
                        27 September 2021 18: 01
                        Yes, the oath orders the Motherland to defend from an external foe, but other organizations are envisaged for internal enemies! Well, okay, you have already appointed the Army as an enemy, so live with this opinion ...
                      17. +4
                        27 September 2021 17: 49
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Sasha Lebed,

                        I started for health, I finished for peace, that moment when you think that - I have everyone, but you look closely, oh, but they have you.
                      18. 0
                        29 September 2021 19: 42
                        Stroporez (Private Airborne Forces), September 27, 2021 16:24 - "... Colleague, but about the oath, everything is correct. For 30 years I have been tormented by the question of why the army betrayed the USSR and in fact the officers were perjurers ... "

                        Private well wrapped up, and now puzzle on LOGIC and SCLEROSIS
                        How is the OWL given by a soldier different from a cadet ?!
                        Wishlist "... to whitewash yourself, but "you can't wash a black dog to white" ... ". increased SEVERAL times ... andis it EASIER "platoon commander's father" push in the back against the wall for "rastrela". They didn’t confuse YOURSELF with anyone with self-identification (Slingshot Airborne Forces) ?! Do not dishonor "Uncle Vasya's Troops" - Vasily Filippovich Margelov - Hero of the Soviet Union, the first commander of the Airborne Forces. Or replace the nickname, how many is now under your case in the "trend"!

                        Maybe you didn't participate in the all-union referendum held on March 17, 1991. Central republican commissions for the referendum, which were entrusted with organizing it, were created in 9 of the 15 union republics. and how is YOUR oath?

                        1991 accomplishments watched on newspapers or TV .. and how is YOUR oath?

                        September 21 - October 5, 1993 the tragic events of modern Russian history took place ...and how is YOUR oath?

                        Come to the mirror "young soldier" and cut the "truth uterus" even to the best of your ability ... Don't look for the guilty ... Bring "your cross".

                        Do not confuse Volkogonov (a soldier, who knows who he is ?!) and "Vasya - a platoon commander", if they weren't there (vz - kp), how many times, such privates, were killed more in the post-Soviet era ...
                        R.S. If for 30 years they did not understand WHY, then something has not been so for a long time not only in the country ...
                      19. +2
                        29 September 2021 23: 07
                        Quote: boni592807
                        and now a puzzle on LOGIC and SCLEROSIS
                        How is the OWL given by a soldier different from a cadet ?!

                        You made a very emotional comment ......, but it only confirms my statement.
                        I will not paint for a long time, but I will simply say that the soldier is called up, and the officers go voluntarily !!!
                        Nobody drove you, colleague, with a stick in the school, so be so kind as to correspond to the status and the taken oath.
                        All the rest is verbiage.
                      20. 0
                        30 September 2021 18: 52
                        Stroporez (Private Airborne Forces), Yesterday, 23:07, - - "... a soldier is called up, but they become officers voluntarily !!! You, colleague, no one chased you with a stick in the school, so be so kind as to correspond to the status and the taken oath. The rest of the verbiage.

                        TEXT OF THE ARMY OF THE USSR:

                        I, a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, joining the ranks of the Armed Forces, take the Oath and solemnly swear: be an honest, brave, disciplined, vigilant warrior, strictly keep military and state secrets, unquestioningly fulfill all military regulations and orders of commanders and chiefs
                        I swear ... until my last breath to be loyal to your People, your Soviet Motherland and the Soviet Government.
                        I'm always ready by order of the Soviet Government to defend my Motherland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ...
                        If I break my solemn oath, then let the harsh punishment of the Soviet law, the universal hatred and contempt of the Soviet people befall me.

                        Man, gave the PRIRE .., and - VOLUNTARY! Or You must have been tortured into the Airborne Forces ?! And you - "..not a word - not a spirit" ?!
                        T.ch. your verbiage, about the distinction of the Military Oath of citizens, soldiers, officers. Delirium or provocation, as in the ever-memorable late 80s - 90s souls of liberals
                        If you SERVED (which starts to raise doubts)then "splash" about "misunderstanding" the difference between a soldier and a cadet is STRENGTHEN. The soldier is common there is a military rank and a military position. Judging by your NIKU - Stroporez (Private Airborne Forces), you know THIS... Cadet is a position, and a military rank before the assignment of the first officer from a private to a foreman. Is it really an OPENING for you ?! Charming !!!
                        Now if you forgot, you have a footnote (see earlier) on excerpts from the text of V. Oath
                        Нgo, something about soldiers, cadets, officers... There - "... I, a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, joining the ranks of the Armed Forces, I take the Oath and solemnly swear: .." So that to the MIRROR "my friend" to the MIRROR and to the tinsel "of the oath-breaker and the" black dog, which cannot be washed to white "...". It would be all right about YOURSELF, and he is with a garbage can .. Or you were NOT a Citizen ... or another VICTIM of the Unified State Exam ?! ...
                        Re-read the oath, at least as presented. Given the allocated...
                        The last attempt to reach your gray matter. Not understood?! I wasted time ..?!
                        So you are "my friend" -.just a PROVOCATOR. No fancy, such "simple" were in my urgent and officer's life
                        But thanks, you "showed up", sure, not only for me, as on "litmus" paper.
                  2. +10
                    27 September 2021 15: 49
                    I don’t understand, you really believe in the bike that you are telling us here. I will give you a real example, the data was taken from the website of the Central Election Commission. Pay attention to the turnout at 616-618 PECs with turnout at other PECs and the results for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and United Russia. That's how the EP and "won", but not the way that you came up with us here about pensioners

                    .
              2. +10
                27 September 2021 15: 55
                Quote: Finches
                As for in his place or not in his place, then apparently in his own, since the people choose it by a majority of votes!

                Aha and then begs on my knees
              3. +11
                27 September 2021 15: 58
                By the way, VVP, in principle, also designated its position similar to that of the author, answering the relevant question:
                Yeah, as usual, he expressed his nausea! But only.
            2. +14
              27 September 2021 13: 21
              Quote: Svarog
              And you did not notice .. that he always just tries .. but he never succeeds .. then he asks for understanding

              Well, why, after all, raising the pension age and resetting it went with a bang!
              So it turns out when he wants.
          2. +10
            27 September 2021 13: 24
            Quote: Finches
            Last year, threw formula: "The greatness of Russia, the dignity of citizens."

            It is well said "threw in", conveys the whole essence of what is happening.
          3. AUL
            +9
            27 September 2021 14: 18
            Quote: Finches
            Last year he threw in the formula: "The greatness of Russia, the dignity of citizens."

            For all the good, against all the bad? Is it possible to be more specific?
          4. +9
            27 September 2021 14: 19
            Quote: Finches
            Last year he threw in the formula: "The greatness of Russia, the dignity of citizens."


            He also threw out the wording that it would not be possible with the citizenship of a foreign / NATO state to participate in the rule of Russia, and then how it happened: https://ria.ru/20210825/grazhdanstvo-1747234469.html
          5. +8
            27 September 2021 15: 30
            And what does Putin have to do with it?
            Isn't he the head of state?
            1. +5
              27 September 2021 20: 43
              Sometimes it seems, and sometimes not sometimes, that it is not.
          6. Alf
            +8
            27 September 2021 19: 56
            Quote: Finches
            dignity of citizens

            Is the list of citizens a secret protocol?
            1. Alf
              +10
              27 September 2021 20: 23
              Quote: Alf
              Quote: Finches
              dignity of citizens

              Is the list of citizens a secret protocol?

              Why secret, though?
        2. +11
          27 September 2021 15: 56
          th-oh! Where are the zaputintsy flooded, give them ideology, that without ideology Putin no longer loves? They loved for 20 years, and the one that won wassat
          cut through laughing
          Duc, etA! The world smells fried more and more, and it will start with weaning the dough that is being held over the hill. And in order not to be taken away to an extreme degree, the country must be strong. And what strength can there be in a country where everyone will defend only their own garden ?! And even the most notorious liberal will not fight for the yachts and villas of the oligarchs. So the ideological preparation for the slaughter begins.
      3. +9
        27 September 2021 12: 40
        Well, Yuri Dmitritch gave it to the land of coal! laughing I'm tortured to read!

        Yeah. You expect clarity from KTN, analysis of the structure in a nutshell, understanding of the essence ... And here is a philosophical fog, smoke from words. There has been patriotism since ancient times. And there is still. In some countries it is strong, in some it is weak. Why does it arise, how, to what extent is it necessary for the country's survival, what should be the ratio of egoism - collectivism. How to estimate in numbers ...
        Eh, philosophers ..... Not a damn thing you are not advanced in the study of the crowd of monkeys called "state". But supercomputers have given you - collisions of galaxies and the emergence of life are simulated. They could have blinded a model from a primitive communal herd to the European Union, and then look ahead.
        1. +10
          27 September 2021 17: 55
          Could dazzle the model
          Maybe blinded. See article after article about Ukraine here. Or obama trump, can, everything interferes with living in Russia. Or here
          Putin called the country's main enemy poverty and problems in health care, education and infrastructure. According to the head of state, the country's authorities still have something to work on.
          twenty years in power, and the problems are seen by the communists. That is what we live.
    2. for
      +5
      27 September 2021 11: 20
      Quote: prior
      And what is now happening in Russia, when the population is decreasing by several hundred thousand people a year, is more likely a genocide carried out by the country's oligarchic leadership.

      This is the fault of the West.
      1. +15
        27 September 2021 11: 23
        If my cow is dead, but the neighbor does not - of course the neighbor is to blame.
      2. +10
        27 September 2021 13: 21
        Quote: for
        Quote: prior
        And what is now happening in Russia, when the population is decreasing by several hundred thousand people a year, is more likely a genocide carried out by the country's oligarchic leadership.

        This is the fault of the West.

        More precisely, his henchmen in the country's leadership.
    3. +27
      27 September 2021 11: 24
      O! Spiritual National Security Strategy! A new feature to strengthen the "brace". We need to get funding for this case. Committees to create "strategy" development. Bablishko to cut under this business, well, as is customary, now. To attract Popov to strengthen "spirituality", and so on ...
      1. +3
        27 September 2021 11: 39
        But Shnurov himself came up with swearing words from the stage to sing, and did not shave them off from anyone.
      2. +9
        27 September 2021 11: 45
        Quote: Snail N9
        O! Spiritual National Security Strategy! A new feature to strengthen the "brace". We need to get funding for this case. Committees to create "strategy" development. Bablishko to cut under this business, well, as is customary, now. To attract Popov to strengthen "spirituality", and so on ...

        Shnurov said very accurately .. good
        1. +16
          27 September 2021 12: 31
          Quote: Svarog

          Shnurov said very accurately .. good

          Exactly, but with one amendment. Not we collect ..., they collect ....... It is time to stop this transfer of arrows from specific "heroes of zeroing and optimization" to the entire Russian people.
          1. 0
            27 September 2021 19: 29
            Quote: Beringovsky
            It is time to stop this transfer of arrows from specific "heroes of zeroing and optimization" to the entire Russian people.

            The Russian people support all this with their inaction. The last legitimate chance to change the situation or make it clear to the authorities that something was wrong was massively ignored in these "elections" to the State Duma.
            Your next stop in 24 is Belarus 2020. When the "young and energetic" leader decides to sit on the throne again. It was not in vain that I started resetting it for myself, as can be seen from the latest news, and for my supporters.
      3. 0
        1 October 2021 15: 58
        So everything else was before slavery-feudalism, and they took what they lacked to give all this to the people who, under the leadership of the Bolsheviks, built the country of hard workers. The feudal lords stole it from the people for the benefit of the people.
    4. +6
      27 September 2021 11: 31
      This is when this patriotism was measured by the standard of living? Have you confused anything? Or Ivan Susanin lived too well? Did the same Gastello think about the level of his income?
      No, patriotism is something completely different, in no way connected with the level of material wealth!
      1. +20
        27 September 2021 11: 47
        Quote: Kayala
        This is when this patriotism was measured by the standard of living?

        Is always. A person's motivation to defend his homeland in which he lives in constant poverty and lack of rights, where he does not see a bright future for his children is about zero.
        1. -9
          27 September 2021 11: 50
          Come on, about zero ... Tell this to the peasants of 1812, they really raised the French on the pitchfork solely because they lived very well. fool

          P.S. According to my personal observations (using the example of relatives who moved to Moscow), the better a person lives, the less prone he is to the emergence of patriotism. On the contrary, everything is not enough for them, although Muscovites no longer know how else to please. The standard of living in Moscow and in the rest of Russia is simply not comparable.
          1. +13
            27 September 2021 11: 56
            No, only because they liked the way they were flogged in the stable, forced to work out corvee for wear and tear, stripped of taxes as sticky and sold on a par with dogs and horses.
          2. +12
            27 September 2021 11: 57
            Come on, about zero ... Tell this to the peasants of 1812, they really raised the French on the pitchfork solely because they lived very well.


            So they raised their pitchforks when the French army began to plunder their villages, rape women and burn houses.
            "War feeds itself" - don't you know?

            Serfs are property. What kind of patriotism can they have? To whom? To the master?
          3. +8
            27 September 2021 12: 13
            They killed them because it was worse under the French.
          4. +3
            27 September 2021 12: 14
            Quote: Kayala
            Come on, about zero ... Tell this to the peasants of 1812, they really raised the French on the pitchfork solely because they lived very well. fool

            P.S. According to my personal observations (using the example of relatives who moved to Moscow), the better a person lives, the less prone he is to the emergence of patriotism. On the contrary, everything is not enough for them, although Muscovites no longer know how else to please. The standard of living in Moscow and in the rest of Russia is simply not comparable.

            You are a vivid example of selfless and silvery patriotism: expressing love for the homeland and hatred for its capital. Are Muscovites not citizens of the same country as you? Or is your patriotism “I love my homeland here, but here I don’t love it”?
            Your patriotism follows directly from one of Dostoevsky's characters: "The more I love humanity, the more I hate each person individually." laughing
          5. +2
            27 September 2021 16: 04
            Come on, about zero ... Tell this to the peasants of 1812, they really raised the French on the pitchfork solely because they lived very well. fool
            Then they did not know another life, and indoctrination was present.
            According to my personal observations (using the example of relatives who moved to Moscow), the better a person lives, the less he is inclined to the emergence of patriotism.
            It is also true, for someone who knows how to consume, this is the norm. And they made consumers of us! However, it is no wonder why should I fight for the yachts and villas of the oligarchs? For buying off the punishment of the "golden youth"? Here it is the fall of patriotism.
        2. +3
          27 September 2021 15: 44
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          where he does not see a bright future for his children near zero.

          This is what patriotism is all about!
      2. +20
        27 September 2021 11: 53
        Quote: Kayala
        No, patriotism is something completely different, in no way connected with the level of material wealth!

        Patriotism should be viewed through the prism of ideology .. and the article clearly noted this .. Patriotism is a feeling, and any feeling can be aroused, and therefore manipulated .. and prior (Vlad) said for sure that this feeling should be born on real soil, where the population is good ... and lives fairly. In our case, there can be no patriotism as a unifying factor .. because there is too much stratification and not a fair structure of society. Of course the capitalist will always strive to defend his interests with your life .. But do you need it? Are you ready to go die for another billion for the oligarch?
        The USSR created a system of social relations that was several centuries ahead of the development of society ... yes, not everything was smooth, but it was the best thing that mankind came up with .. And of course, people were patriots of such a great country, because if the country called, it was not for the sake of a handful oligarchs, but for the sake of universal prosperity.
      3. +8
        27 September 2021 11: 54
        He who does not love his country cannot love anything.
        George G. Byron
        1. +7
          27 September 2021 14: 41
          Quote: Crowe
          He who does not love his country cannot love anything.
          George G. Byron

          wrong. He can love his stomach, his money ... and sincerely.
        2. +11
          27 September 2021 14: 53
          Quote: Crowe
          He who does not love his country cannot love anything.
          The whole question is, whose country people consider theirs ... Like Byron, many of our moneybags love England, milking Russia.
          Probably, it is unlikely that patriotism will be brought up in the country, when even the word "PATRIOT" is written in the Latin alphabet, letters alien to Russian.
          1. +3
            27 September 2021 20: 45
            Do not take away, do not add good
          2. +5
            27 September 2021 23: 30
            Monetizing patriotism.
      4. +6
        27 September 2021 12: 14
        Quote: Kayala
        This is when this patriotism was measured by the standard of living? Have you confused anything? Or Ivan Susanin lived too well? Did the same Gastello think about the level of his income?
        No, patriotism is something completely different, in no way connected with the level of material wealth!

        that's right, the concept of patriotism is, of course, also based on its own benefit, but it is not down to earth, like those who do not count more than one move forward, who have one convolution on the topic "do I live well in the material plane?" .... patriotism is the notion of having an enemy who wants to make my life completely unbearable right up to genocide, and if I am a patriot, I must destroy this enemy, "freedom or death," "Holy war," "to be free or enslaved for our peoples," the question of the existence of the people and me as a part of him, that's what patriotism is, the author correctly connects the question with the family, the very word patriot comes from fatherhood (patriarchy is the fatherland), this means I want to leave my children a part of this country, and not drive them out to the desert in a foreign land as beggars, everything having betrayed and squandered ... this is not the level of a rake going to nightclubs for drugs and carrying a "girlfriend" to an abortion and leaving his children and his wife to their fate .... so patriotism is based on morality. And a good life only ruins patriotism, we lived well under Andrei Bogolyubsky, but they killed him so that he did not interfere with drunkenness, so they got the Mongol yoke, and when they understood and repented, they all went to the Kulikovo field ... they did not live badly under the Tsar Father, we thought we'd live better under the democrats, but as they drank their grief, they repented of their atrocities, they called on Stalin and let him shoot all the crapcrats .... how the fascists mock the occupied territories, and repented, then they changed their thoughts and became patriots ... they lived well under Brezhnev, we thought we would all heal better under the amerikos, and when they saw how the occupation power sucked all the juices out of us, they thought about it, and if and then the bloodsuckers will suck from any inspections and the occupation government prohibiting dandelions ... then everyone will become patriots and the hated American-European yoke will be overthrown ... as in the Mama massacrethis yoke will collapse then, but only after repentance for the deification of Europa
        1. +8
          27 September 2021 12: 38
          patriotism is the concept of having an enemy who wants to make my life completely unbearable up to genocide, and if I am a patriot, then I must destroy this enemy,

          Calling to the barricades? laughing For this is exactly what our state does ..
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    5. +32
      27 September 2021 11: 33
      Quote: prior
      Patriotism is when the citizens of your country live better and longer than the citizens of many, many, many .... other countries.

      In short:
    6. +7
      27 September 2021 12: 01
      Quote: prior
      Patriotism is when the citizens of your country live better and longer than the citizens of many, many, many .... other countries.

      Poll from September 24. “The reasons why Russians want to move to new cities (Siberia), the respondents named job guarantees and wages two to three times higher than at the moment (29 percent). Another 12 percent pointed to over one million rubles. 11 percent Russians are interested in comfortable living conditions and developed urban infrastructure. " That's all patriotism. "The smell of the taiga" will not entice anyone.
      1. +3
        27 September 2021 13: 14
        E. EVTUSHENKO, VERSE ABOUT THE MOTHERLAND, WRITTEN 15 YEARS AGO
        Nightingales sing near Kursk,
        In Moscow, backsides, as before, are licked ...
        I love my homeland,
        But I hate the state!
        Everywhere thieves, wherever you spit,
        And each of them flies "to the kingdom" ...
        I love my homeland
        But I hate the state!
        They don’t give people money
        Rockets are sent to Mars ...
        I love my homeland
        And I hate the state!
        "Rublevs" are paid per ruble,
        Zurab is not offended by Russia ...
        I love my homeland
        And I hate the state!
        Everyone vomits from the "left" vodka,
        To the hospital - with your own medicine ...
        I love my homeland
        But I hate the state!
        The world has hung so much splash on us!
        "Spartak" in the newspapers is cooler than "Bars" ...
        I love my homeland
        But I hate the state!
        Nemtsov "curses" the Kremlin,
        Klimentyev, his friend, was tonsured.
        I don't see Yefimitch point-blank,
        Since I love the Motherland,
        And I hate the state!
        I suppress desire in myself
        Buy a chalet near Paris.
        I hate the state
        But I love my Motherland very much!
        https://golos.io/ru
    7. +15
      27 September 2021 13: 46
      Kleptocracy) under the sauce of patriotism!
      I don’t remember who said: I saw the most zealous patriots in the Moscow-London business class. hi
    8. -2
      27 September 2021 14: 57
      Now, present your position ...
      So that you are not rolled into the asphalt
    9. -2
      27 September 2021 20: 48
      Quote: prior
      Patriotism is when the citizens of your country live better and longer than the citizens of many, many, many .... other countries.
      Everything else blah blah blah blah ...
      Or maybe patriotism is not only love for pennies and cars? Please read it carefully .... Maybe in this antique oath there is an answer to the question, what is patriotism ... --- Oath of ancient citizens of Chersonesus ----------
      I swear by Zeus, Gaia, Helios, the Virgin, the gods and goddesses of Olympus and the heroes who own the city, region and fortifications of the Chersonesos:
      I will be unanimous about the welfare of the city and citizens and I will not betray Chersonesos, neither Kerkinitis, nor the Beautiful Harbor, nor other fortifications, nor from the rest of the area that the Chersonesos own or possessed, nothing to anyone, - neither a Hellene nor a barbarian, but I will protect the Chersonesites for the people;
      I will not violate democracy and whoever wants to betray or violate, I will not allow it and I will not hide with him, but I will declare to the demiurges who rule in the city;
      I will be the enemy of the malevolent and betraying or inclining to fall away Chersonesos, or Kerkinitida, or the Beautiful Harbor, or the fortifications and area of ​​the Chersonesos;
      I will serve as a demiurge, and a member of the council as best and fair as possible for the city and citizens;
      and I will protect the people of ΣАΣТНРА and I will not give in words to either the Hellene or the barbarian anything secret that could harm the city;
      I will not give and will not accept a gift to harm the city and fellow citizens;
      I will not plan any unrighteous act against any of the citizens who have not fallen away, and I will not allow anyone who is malicious and will not hide with him, but I will declare and at the trial I will give a voice in accordance with the laws;
      I will not enter into a conspiracy either against the Chersonesite community or against any of my fellow citizens who have not been declared an enemy of the people;
      if I entered into a conspiracy with someone or bound by any oath or vow, then it will be better for the one who breaks both me and mine, and for the one who is abiding - the opposite;
      and if I recognize any conspiracy, existing or being composed, then I will declare to the demiurges;
      and I will not sell grain exported from the plain and export it from the plain to another place, but only to Chersonesos.
      Zeus, Gaia, Helios, Virgo and the Olympian gods, to him who abides in this, may it be good for himself and his family and mine, and not for the abiding one - evil for himself and his family and mine; let neither the land nor the sea bear fruit for me, let women not give birth to beautiful children, and let not ...
      ----------------- The real oath of the ancient townspeople.
      1. +2
        28 September 2021 09: 49
        townspeople, but not their many slaves working for them and nothing really decisive ..
        1. -3
          28 September 2021 13: 26
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          but not their many slaves working for them and not really decisive ..

          Do you understand the basis? Understandable. What do the slaves have to do with it? You can cheat any text. Find a speck in someone else's eye.
          1. +1
            28 September 2021 13: 38
            Yuri, I did not try to spoil your text .. My idea is that you are talking about patriotic citizens, while:
            Quote: 30 vis
            Or maybe patriotism is not only love for pennies and cars?

            did these citizens have problems with "pennies and cars"? I think no. And at the same time you answered
            Quote: 30 vis
            Quote: prior
            Patriotism is when the citizens of your country live better and longer than the citizens of many, many, many .... other countries.
            Everything else blah blah blah blah ...

            Can't you catch the logic of my answer?
            I'll expand a little .. patriotism is often very close to citizens who live better than others ..
            1. -3
              28 September 2021 16: 09
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              patriotism is often very close to citizens who live better than others ..

              The oath of the citizen of Chersonesus was taken by young people, maybe from wealthy families. Maybe. But all the citizens of the ancient Chersonesos had allotments (choirs) of the same size, on the stony land of modern Sevastopol. The Greeks gouged in the rock one and a half, two meters deep and brought in the land Turning their land into a blossoming garden, vineyards, fields., And these citizens were immigrants from the Greek Heraclea Mostly immigrants from Sparta. This speaks volumes. Slavery ... Times were like that ...
              1. +2
                28 September 2021 16: 19
                They gouged and planted, again slaves .. Yuri, in fact, you and I do not contradict each other at all .. I agree with you .. yes they were patriots - one hundred percent .. especially the Spartans ..
                1. 0
                  28 September 2021 20: 31
                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  They gouged and planted, again slaves ..

                  It would be a good article to write, or who will write ... There are many interesting things about Chersonese .. The city is a colony .. The ancient Greeks came to the Kherson (Heraclean) peninsula without slaves, exiles, outcasts, colonists, by sea on ships ... Almost beggars. And they were able to create a city that gave Russia the Orthodox faith through the baptism of the Grand Duke of Russia Vladimir. The city is a mystery.
            2. -2
              28 September 2021 16: 14
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              Can't you catch the logic of my answer?
              I'll expand a little .. patriotism is often very close to citizens who live better than others ..

              And who is dying for the Motherland? Who serves in the Far North? On nuclear submarines? At points in the wilderness? Who loves and plows his land?
              1. +1
                28 September 2021 16: 22
                But how, before 2006-7, 8 out of 10 left the army after after 1 contract? and now 2 out of 10 .. why? because the salary was less than the seller in the store and social guarantees - zero .. I do not say - right / wrong it is .. honor and praise who served .. we are talking about the dependence of patriotism on a "full stomach", that it is clearly massive and more - when a person is financially secure .. and yes, the military lives better than most now .. and that's good ..
                1. -1
                  28 September 2021 20: 25
                  Early nineties, yes ... 2000s no. The family is clear. Understandably hungry kids. The concept of the Motherland was destroyed by the main communists of the USSR. All these Yeltsin and Gorbachevs, Yakovlevs, Berezovsky, Kravchuks and others like them. That is why I cannot condemn people leaving the army and rushing about in search of any kind of earnings. I remember the "magnificent" nineties. Bandits, thieves, lawlessness ... Zyuganov, lost from the success in the elections, I remember how I became a citizen of the distant Ukraine ... There was no eating in the family, I remember that ... Whoever did not work ... at the time of the country! There was no ... whatever the liberals and pseudo-communists were babbling now ... There was melancholy and hopelessness, the feeling that you were betrayed and given away. forgot . Now there is a Motherland. Whose merit it is or what is not done correctly will not be discussed. the main thing is the Motherland.
    10. 0
      28 September 2021 04: 15
      An absolutely wrong interpretation of patriotism. Again, profit is at the forefront, comparison with other countries ... Can't you just love Russian birches? Do you want to live longer? So kill your competitors and you will be longer. Lord, where did I end up ...
    11. 0
      1 October 2021 15: 51
      That's not correct, apparently, the ancient Greeks gave the concept of the word patriotism. To be well fed, to have security, a piece of land to feed, to have children. If we talk about patriotism, then this refers to the land on which the same people live with the same desires. By the way, these people have state borders. We don’t need an inch of someone else’s land, we won’t give up our land. The fact that they are trying to slip the policy of the USSR everything for the people cannot be slipped under the policy, a thousand billionaires will be enough for us, the rest of them must be protected even with their own blood, although the rest do not even own an inch. Could slaves call the land of their master and at the same time be a patriot of a foreign land? In Russia, they forgot about three huge uprisings of the people and hundreds and thousands of not so big ones. Napoleon already in Paris said that if he were just a general, or a marshal, he would declare freedom to the peasants and the war would be won.
  2. +12
    27 September 2021 11: 12
    Some kind of set of slogans ...
    But it was necessary to highlight the main thing - "the revised Constitution lacks the development goals of Russia"!
    1. +23
      27 September 2021 11: 39
      The result of 30 years of "development" of the Russian Federation:
  3. +3
    27 September 2021 11: 18
    Patriotism must be brought up from the cradle. Everything else is just words, an empty phrase. And parents should set an example.
    1. for
      +9
      27 September 2021 11: 38
      Quote: Seryoga64
      And parents should set an example.

      All parental education can overwhelm society and the truth of life.
      1. -4
        27 September 2021 11: 46
        Quote: for
        All parental education can overwhelm society and the truth of life.

        I do not argue. The state should not stand aside either
        1. +31
          27 September 2021 11: 56
          Rulers should not blame people for the lack of patriotism, but do everything in their power to make them patriotic.
          Thomas Babington Macaulay
          1. +1
            27 September 2021 12: 11
            Quote: Crowe
            Rulers should not blame people for the lack of patriotism, but do everything in their power to make them patriotic.

            Totally agree
    2. -10
      27 September 2021 11: 52
      Clarify ... mom and dad or parent 1 and parent 2?
      1. +2
        27 September 2021 12: 13
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Clarify ... mom and dad or parent 1 and parent 2?

        Well, for a gay member of the forum, I clarify
        Mother and father
    3. +2
      27 September 2021 11: 55
      Quote: Seryoga64
      Patriotism must be brought up from the cradle. Everything else is just words, an empty phrase. And parents should set an example.

      From school, you need to teach people to manage their emotions and tame the ego.
      1. 0
        27 September 2021 12: 15
        Quote: Svarog
        From school, you need to teach people to manage their emotions and tame the ego.

        What does patriotism have to do with emotions and ego?
        1. +4
          27 September 2021 12: 34
          Quote: Seryoga64
          Quote: Svarog
          From school, you need to teach people to manage their emotions and tame the ego.

          What does patriotism have to do with emotions and ego?

          Emotions and ego are the main enemy of humanity, which is related to everything that happens in the life of the individual and society. The more unhealthy people who do not understand themselves, the more rotten the society and the worse those who govern it. Accordingly, people's lives are worse, which means that there can be no healthy patriotism.
          As an example .. take the oligarchs, they provided themselves for several generations .. it would seem, come on already, think about people, about the country .. remember about patriotism .. But no .. their sick ego does not allow them to do this, he not enough money .. he needs the yacht to be bigger .. These are deeply sick people ..
      2. +2
        27 September 2021 13: 46
        Quote: Svarog
        From school, you need to teach people to manage their emotions and tame the ego.

        You know how many times you met in the service and at work with wonderful people, until they became bosses, people. We even came across them after being dismissed from the post as dear-dear ones.
        And all she:

        You yourself will remember how an unknown person entered the Kremlin sideways ... got used to it ... they got used to it, now they don't want to leave ...
      3. -1
        28 September 2021 13: 28
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Seryoga64
        Patriotism must be brought up from the cradle. Everything else is just words, an empty phrase. And parents should set an example.

        From school, you need to teach people to manage their emotions and tame the ego.

        That is, to teach secrecy and duplicity ??
        1. +2
          28 September 2021 19: 28
          Quote: 30 vis

          That is, to teach secrecy and duplicity ??

          Emotional management is not secretiveness and duplicity, secrecy is suppression of emotions. Which will still break through .. and management is understanding where emotions come from, what causes them and what it leads to.
  4. +15
    27 September 2021 11: 27
    Patriotism is patriotism, but Voronezh will be bombed, as in a joke.
  5. +16
    27 September 2021 11: 31
    Patriotism among the people should be brought up by example by those who own the country.
    And what patriotism can there be among the enemies of the communists, if for all 30 years they have categorically refused even to take responsibility for the capture of the RSFSR by them, that is, for the country and the people, and all these 30 years they have only been boasting about how much they got at the expense of other people's labor, at the expense of Russia and the Russian people, and taken out of Russia?
    If they DO NOT have a positive history of their country, do not have their own great people and real heroes who have brought great benefit, glory to their country and people, have defended their country from enemies?
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 11: 40
      Who are the communists? Is Zyuganov a communist or a capitalist?
      1. +7
        27 September 2021 11: 53
        Zyuganov, Zyuganist. This is a category of people that will try to parasitize in any system. Even if he wanted to, he cannot go to communism, and he also cannot go to capitalism. If you throw him out of his chair tomorrow and take away everything that he parasitized in all the time of his life, he will die of hunger. For nobody needs nafig.
      2. +1
        27 September 2021 11: 56
        Ha, the enemies of the communists have a reflex, like Pavlov's dog - when you write about YOU, you immediately rush to rage against the communists and their supporters, cowardly "switch the arrows" to them. And what kind of patriotism can you have if you have FOR yourself, and FOR what you have done, there is nothing?
        1. -4
          27 September 2021 11: 59
          You did not answer the question ...
          1. +2
            27 September 2021 12: 03
            And why should I submit to the evil and cowardly "ideology" of the enemies of the Communists, who have all 30 years after the capture of the RSFSR by you under the cowardly spells "and we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists are to blame" ideology-malice AGAINST the communists-like Bolshevik-communists, and the Communist Party, including in your last elections?
            1. -4
              27 September 2021 12: 05
              Hello, answer the question - who are the communists?
        2. +13
          27 September 2021 12: 01
          Patriotism is one of the deepest feelings that have been entrenched for centuries and millennia. Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
        3. 0
          27 September 2021 12: 02
          Well, some communists overthrew other communists. Anlak.

          Aren't you tired of repeating this as a mantra?
          1. +5
            27 September 2021 12: 07
            No, you don't have to lie and be hypocritical. You, the enemies of the communists, for 30 years imposing on Russia and the Russian people the members of the CPSU who "saw the light" in Perestroika, you know perfectly well the difference between the Soviet communists and these "saw the light", therefore, for 30 years you have been boasting to the supporters of the communists like all of you, "and now it is better than in THE USSR ".
            1. -1
              27 September 2021 12: 09
              Yes, I’m as if not 30.
              Rather, it was you who imposed your billionaire Komsomol members on me.
    2. +10
      27 September 2021 11: 42
      The achieved "standard of living" for the majority of the population is especially impressive:
      1. 0
        27 September 2021 12: 18
        And here is the lucky owner of the allowance
      2. +5
        27 September 2021 12: 38
        "standard of living" for the majority of the population:
        The Balts with their pay of a thousand and a half euros are generally beggars Yes There is a lot of evidence for that on the same forum. laughing .
  6. +5
    27 September 2021 11: 38
    Author. You mentally stayed in the USSR. Therefore, your "article" looks very funny. One must understand that being determines consciousness.
    Patriotism is about a citizen, about his self-awareness and understanding of his own role in the life of the country.
    You at least study where patriotism originated, under what circumstances and what it was like.

    This is not about "Let's rally around the tsar and the boyars, there are enemies around, uuu, let's tighten our belts !!" - it is for this reason that all these "patriotic" projects are merged into the toilet.

    And always fucking spirituality.
    "Spiritual strategy, spiritual security, braces, traditions, conservatism."

    Reserve colonel, go out into the street, look around like this, look at real people. Maybe they need something else, and not Russia in 1627? Not?
    1. +7
      27 September 2021 12: 14
      There is nothing new here:
      "During the Civil War in the United States, southerners said about northerners something like:" Yes, maybe they are richer. Only there are things more important than money. They are mercantile, but we have the Spirit of the South. We are rich spiritually. "

      Sound familiar?

      There is a widespread belief that the inhabitants of Russia are distinguished by their ingenuity and resourcefulness - with the help of some kind of mother and blue electrical tape, we successfully get out of a difficult situation. And most importantly, they are strong in spirit. Nobility, friendship, moral values.

      And this is a common phenomenon. If it is impossible to raise the status, bragging about economic, material successes, then people talk about intangible things. The fact of the presence or absence of which is difficult to dispute.

      There are no humanoid robots, flights to Mars, thousands of kilometers of new roads, and the middle class starts with an income of 17 - we can say that we are sincere and stand for family values. And the Americans are smiling hypocritically and knocking on each other. "
      1. +5
        27 September 2021 12: 39
        Yes, this is not a phenomenon. This is a kind of sublimation. This is normal, as a defense mechanism of the psyche. It is natural for a person to consider himself good, therefore he often ascribes to himself those character traits that he did not possess by birth.
        It's another matter when this game turns into a whole national myth.


        By the way, "Gone with the Wind" is directly permeated with southern braces, noble gentlemen, cozy living rooms and the crunch of Virginia rolls.
        The work seems to be a cult, but it has become just nostalgia for bygone times, and not the bible of a new worldview.
  7. +4
    27 September 2021 11: 53
    First, you need to make your business and economy patriotic. But when they are privatized and sold over the hill, then this is a significant problem.
  8. +4
    27 September 2021 11: 59
    As I understand it, in the picture at the beginning of the photo of the multi-colored coke, which the author of this rotten footcloth was inspired by?
  9. +8
    27 September 2021 11: 59
    What patriotism can one expect from the enemies of the communists if they captured the RSFSR during their Perestroika under the slogans "patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels", "and we owe nothing to this country and this people"?
    They, under the USSR, that after its capture, have always lived and live parallel to their country and people.
  10. +14
    27 September 2021 12: 00
    The historical significance of every Russian great person is measured by his merits to his homeland, his human dignity - by the strength of his patriotism. A patriot is a person who serves the motherland, and the motherland is, first of all, the people.
    Nikolai Gavrilovich Chernyshevsky
  11. +10
    27 September 2021 12: 08
    In one ancient state, patriotism was formulated as follows.
    The man was not called to war for the following three reasons:
    - he built a house and has not lived in his new house for another year,
    - he got married and did not live another year with his woman,
    he planted a vineyard and has not yet tasted the wine from that vineyard.
    The bottom line: a person should have something to protect. He must have an experience of joy for which he will stand to death. Like here: build a house, plant a tree ... etc. It is important to feel some fulfillment of your destiny on this earth. Then you can fight and die for this life. And the state, the government ... well, somewhere behind the back, beyond the horizon, both the state and the government will remain intact.
    And yes, this quote from the Bible, the Old Testament, is about ancient Israel.
    1. -7
      27 September 2021 12: 27
      Israeli patriotism is, of course, a big deal.
      1. +4
        27 September 2021 14: 29
        Quote: Angry Troll
        Israeli patriotism is, of course, a big deal.

        And you, apparently, all your life prefer to learn exclusively from your own experience and your own mistakes? Or is it acceptable for you to state support for patriotism, up to a variant of patriotism, up to Order No. 227 and foreign detachments?
        Why not take the best if it is free? As I remember now: "You can become a communist only when you enrich yourself with the knowledge of all the riches that humanity has developed." V.I. Lenin.
        Is it more intelligible?
        I am Russian, but anti-Semitism is abhorrent to me.
        1. -2
          27 September 2021 15: 06
          I am not an anti-Semite either. But why are Israeli patriots so scattered around the world? Vineyards are poorly kept by relatives, or what?
          And where does the study on their own or not their mistakes? And Order 227?
          1. +5
            27 September 2021 15: 26
            Quote: Angry Troll
            But why are Israeli patriots so scattered around the world?

            Good question. Why don't you ask yourself this? Then start with the resettlement of the Jews to Egypt. It was already later to Babylon and Rome.
            Quote: Angry Troll
            And where does the study on their own or not their mistakes?

            Because the smart learns from the experience and mistakes of others, and you reject someone else's (Israeli) experience.
            Quote: Angry Troll
            And Order 227?

            If you do not want to cultivate patriotism kindly and with all your heart, rejecting the experience of the Israelis, then the commanding education of patriotism is acceptable and rational for you, most likely. In this respect, Order No. 227 is an excellent example.
    2. 0
      27 September 2021 12: 30
      The bottom line: a person should have something to protect. He must have an experience of joy for which he will stand to death.

      Two feelings are marvelously close to us -
      They find food in the heart -
      Love for the native ashes
      Love for fatherly coffins.

      Life-giving shrine!
      The earth would be dead without them,
      Like a desert
      And like an altar without a deity.
  12. +8
    27 September 2021 12: 15
    moderate ideology aimed at saving the people, at preserving its national, ethnic traditions
    What kind of people? In Russia, there is no more stupid act than to declare yourself Russian)
  13. +13
    27 September 2021 12: 24
    In this situation, the question becomes not idle: what can we oppose to foreign doctrines of the ideological education of the younger generation?
    Work blacks, the sun is still high, remember the main thing: the state owes you nothing, and you owe the banks to pay interest on mortgages and consumer loans.
  14. +10
    27 September 2021 12: 28
    Some kind of mossy agitation from the late USSR, composed of slogans by a political commander who does not understand at all what he is writing about, but conscientiously fulfills the instructions.
  15. +7
    27 September 2021 12: 30
    And yes, is that nonsense that is being filmed today about the war and the Soviet period in the form of TV series and the type of feature films, is it part of a globalist project? laughing
  16. +12
    27 September 2021 12: 38
    Patriotism ... It's a good thing, of course.
    Only that all the advocates for patriotism in our country for some reason have little to do with it.
    Look, the same Nightingale. What patriot to look for. And he keeps that property and money far beyond the borders of the Motherland. Like Brilev, a subject of the British crown.
    The same officials who are constantly being hunted out for some kind of foreign assets, and children being trained in Oxfords and other yels are found ..
    Patriot Peskov with his daughter in France, patriot Kiriyenko with his daughter in the same place, Klishas, ​​Mizulina, a bunch of deputies ... And the VVP recently allowed them to have dual citizenship. The fish rots from the head.
    And then, as in the saying: Friends are all - the people of the law. Everything here to friends is patriotism to the people.
    1. +13
      27 September 2021 13: 57
      Quote: Mishka78
      Look, the same Nightingale. What patriot to look for. And he keeps that property and money far beyond the borders of the Motherland.

  17. +6
    27 September 2021 12: 42
    Patriotism, in its current configuration, is a refuge for villains.
  18. +4
    27 September 2021 12: 47
    Titanic article!
    My compliments, Colonel Ilyin! hi
    I could not finish reading to the end, I will return to the article within a week, and maybe more, and comment on it. You have added a few more points to the ten points on disuniting the population and depriving it of patriotic feelings, which I just recently made up for myself.
    1. +9
      27 September 2021 13: 09
      Titanic article!
      My compliments, Colonel Ilyin!

      That's for sure. For a colonel to master the writing of such a long text is a titanic work. There is no longer any strength left for meaning.
      1. +5
        27 September 2021 13: 22
        Judging by the article, it is "custom-made". That is, it was written "for something." This is either an abstract, or an "ordered initial study of the issue" to "consulting", which is often now practiced by the authorities, or some part of a more extensive "work" ... My IMHO, I could be wrong ...
        1. +3
          27 September 2021 13: 31
          research of the issue "consulting"

          Articles of this level are not needed by any "consulting" for nothing. Normal "consulting" such articles are ordered by doctors of philosophical sciences, who in the subject, such as V.I. Lutovinova.
          And this is purely "beautiful impulses of souls."
      2. +4
        27 September 2021 14: 38
        For a colonel to master the writing of such a long text is a titanic work.


        Victor Nikolaevich, Colonel - Candidate of Technical Sciences. And not some kind of legal. So he could have written it himself. I'm also a techie and can write articles, but I see the point only in commenting.
        And by the way.
        This article is a republishing from the resource

        Universe-tss.su
        Territory of the Free Pack.

        There is even the colonel's phone number. But for ethical reasons, I do not include it.
        1. +2
          27 September 2021 15: 08
          His phone is here too, if that.
        2. +6
          27 September 2021 16: 28
          There is even the colonel's phone number. But for ethical reasons, I do not include it.

          This phone is also found under the article on the site.
          Colonel - candidate of technical sciences. And not some kind of legal.

          This is a case where a Juris PhD would be much more appropriate.
          1. +2
            27 September 2021 16: 42
            Quote: Undecim
            ... And not some kind of legal.

            laughing soldier
          2. +2
            27 September 2021 17: 50
            This is where it says, the best commentator. dead commentator?
        3. Fat
          +3
          27 September 2021 17: 02
          hi As soon as the colonel with the telephone equated the "song of the Germans" with the Nazi anthems with the article of the esteemed colonel, it immediately became clear - this is his personal and only personal opinion, stuffed with emotions like a pig with anabolic steroids.
          Along the way, it's hard for you to figure it out, Lyudmila Yakovlevna will have to.
          The third stanza of this Das Lied der Deutschen - "songs of the Germans" - and now the anthem of Germany ... The song became an anthem even under the Weimar Republic on the initiative of the SPD, and appeared in general in the first half of the 19th century ...
          What further this candidate of technical sciences constructed just looked ... Oh, there are some comments.
          When they try to drive by the nose, I smell this "scent" and feel ...
          Sincerely
      3. +3
        27 September 2021 15: 58
        On the meaning
        The "best commentator" should at least not offend other writers. And the comments must be made intelligible.
        1. +2
          27 September 2021 16: 26
          And the comments must be made intelligible.

          Have you heard the saying about the sheriff and the problems of the Indians?
    2. +2
      27 September 2021 13: 53
      The real colonel! laughing
  19. +13
    27 September 2021 12: 48
    In the last decade, in the context of the sanctions, information, trade, technological, financial, mental and hybrid wars deployed against Russia under the leadership of the United States by NATO countries, the term “patriotism” has become a key term in understanding the essence of the ongoing processes and the effectiveness of countering attempts to destroy the Russian Federation or deprive it of its sovereignty.

    As Saltykov-Shchedrin wrote, "they began to press on partriotism, and therefore they were caught stealing."
    On the case - while the children of propagandists from the box, gold, sand, relatives, and other tereshkovs with mizulins live in the decaying west, all these stories about "patriotism" and "rallying around a national leader to fight NATO" are nothing more than a blizzard for divorcing suckers ...
  20. +4
    27 September 2021 12: 51
    First of all, probably, the need, the demand for each person in the state, with individual attention to the problems of each citizen, with the postulate "the state is for the person", then only material well-being. This is certainly closer to a utopia, such as Communism, but Salary alone is not a real patriot will do, and besides, this substance cannot be divided equally by all laughing
  21. +3
    27 September 2021 13: 03
    Well, you can actually quickly come up with an ideology (offhand) -Russia, My Home! (My Fortress) - optional. It is important that the masses, propaganda, control and censure of deviators correspond to this (any) publicly and secretly accepted ideology. Today the ideology is different for different social groups, and note that within your group, its own ideology is observed. For some, shears and sheep, for others, how you pay and we work, for others, they pay me and I don't care who I protect.
  22. +12
    27 September 2021 13: 08
    As Slutsky's daughter wrote in TikTok: "... this time everything (the exam) was successful. She goes to Tasis school and hopes to get a Swiss passport in 5 years."
    Everything you need to know about our supreme patriots.
    Should we then generally conduct sentimental conversations about patriotism?
    After all, one cannot be a greater monarchist than the king himself!
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 15: 10
      And what, Slutsky "supreme"?
      1. +8
        27 September 2021 15: 24
        Of course not!
        But, our "supreme" in August allowed officials to have foreign citizenship, if it is impossible to get rid of it.
        So, the "supreme" has nothing against the Swiss passport.
        And if this is so, then we are not afraid of the West either, if everything is not our own, then it’s definitely evy. :)))
        1. -4
          27 September 2021 15: 28
          And before that, officials were allowed to have foreign citizenship in any case, and there was no need to get rid of. Well?
          1. +6
            27 September 2021 18: 34
            Conclusion:
            1. Representatives of the legislative and executive authorities should not suffer especially from patriotism.
            2. The guarantor can easily neutralize the provisions of the Constitution for the sake of the provisions of the Constitution elected by his decree.
            3. Appeals and slogans about patriotism can be safely ignored. The guarantor of the Constitution will not mind.
            1. -3
              27 September 2021 20: 06
              Conclusion: bureaucrats used to be allowed to have citizenship of several countries. Now they are allowed to have citizenship of several countries, if the special commission allows them. And loud words about guarantors, the constitution and patriotism are exclusively yours.
  23. -11
    27 September 2021 13: 54
    How can love for the Motherland be measured by one's own wealth? How can love for the Motherland be measured by adherence to any political movement? How can you put the personal above the interests of the people and at the same time pass it off as love for the Motherland?
    Homeland is the land on which I live, this is my family, this is my people, and the one who rules my country, and the last bum. Geographically, my Motherland is clearly defined by a state grant. Historically, my Motherland had different names, there were different rulers and political systems, but all this is my Motherland. And many choose a piece that they prefer and say "This is my Motherland, and the rest is shit." This is not the Motherland, respected, this is shit in the brains.
    One cannot measure the Motherland by the amount of bread on the table, and one cannot measure love for the Motherland by the number of bows to the ground before this or that ruler or idea.
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 14: 55
      People leave that it is better to live where it is normal, but of course it is not worth throwing mud at the former homeland.
    2. 0
      27 September 2021 15: 19
      A comment is more valuable than an article.
    3. +7
      27 September 2021 15: 25
      Yes .. just to see a well-fed person.
      1. -8
        27 September 2021 15: 29
        The slacker is immediately visible
        1. +10
          27 September 2021 15: 48
          As for the slacker, are you talking to me? Immediately to see a happy person who was not thrown by the employer.
          In our country, work and wages are unrelated things. "Working poverty" never heard of?
          It's good if you get paid, or maybe not. I HATE this state, which in words promises you protection, but in fact simply encourages non-payment of wages, poverty, and so on. There is a lot of talk about poverty, but if the state did not encourage it, there would be less of it.
          Any of our oligarchs is 1 billion times richer than me. Is he 1 billion times better? Or did more for _THIS_ country?
          1. -5
            27 September 2021 16: 44
            The fact that you are a bummer, I concluded on the same basis as you that I am well fed.
            How and for what does the state encourage all of the above?
            Any of the oligarchs in any country has done more than you to be richer
            1. +8
              27 September 2021 16: 56
              How does it encourage? Well, firstly, according to our legislation, it is impossible to achieve full payment of the delayed wages. The key word here is "complete". Poverty of 80% of the population? Tough employer dictatorship? And you think that the state has nothing to do with it? I do not believe! The wealth of our oligarchs is rooted in the "merry 90s", when the legacy of the USSR was being sawed. Yes. They had opportunities that I did not have. We don't have our Bill Gates who made himself from scratch.
              1. -4
                27 September 2021 18: 39
                According to our legislation, there is responsibility for non-payment of wages. On the rest I agree. But what did you do that would be different? Nothing? If not, then don't complain. Bill Gates is rather an exception to the rule. And what can you say about a man who has hooked half of the world on his products and now breaks the price?
                Will you see the state? Or yourself in it?
  24. +8
    27 September 2021 14: 34
    I remember the words of the classic - they started talking about patriotism, which means they got caught somewhere)
    1. +1
      27 September 2021 14: 56
      It is convenient to hide behind statements remaining in history. You can also remember "Patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels." But perhaps the respected doctor did not mean all the patriots of his country, but only a part of them?
      And another question, how much did Joseph Visarionovich Stalin talk about love for the Motherland? Or is it different? ..
  25. +3
    27 September 2021 15: 24
    You will not be full of patriotism!
    As soon as it will be PROFITABLE to become a patriot, then a real rise of patriotism will begin with us!
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 15: 35
      Why should patriotism be beneficial? He simply must be unprofitable for the individual, otherwise it is not patriotism but a desire for profit. Buy and sell of some kind, not love for the Motherland.
      1. +10
        27 September 2021 15: 43
        Patriotism on macaros, occasionally seasoned with meat, and walking in Chinese clothes for 1000r? Beggar patriotism? Well, in principle, we now have it.
        Do you think that our elite will agree to unprofitable patriotism? And if the elite will live for their own pleasure, and do not give a damn about everyone else, then either revolution or external conquest / control.
        1. 0
          27 September 2021 16: 28
          That is, you should love your homeland only if it is profitable? Or should you love her in any of her conditions and strive for her development?
          Are you not ready to love your Motherland more than the elite?
          1. +5
            28 September 2021 07: 51
            I am not ready to defend the interests of our elite against Western encroachments under the guise of slogans about patriotism.
            And our elite aspires to Miami, not Voronezh.

            As for the Motherland, if anyone has captured it, it is the oligarchic capital of our local spill.
            But it is definitely not worth discussing patriotic actions in this context on the VO website.
            And then they will close it and it will be a shame, the site is interesting! :)))
            1. 0
              28 September 2021 09: 09
              It is convenient to hide behind such phrases. "I am not ready to defend the interests of the oligarchs and therefore come whoever you want and do what you want, so long as I do not accidentally help the oligarchs."

              Well, the Motherland is constantly captured by someone, then a prince, then a general sek. Only all of them were our own, but strangers did not succeed yet. So far, but now it is not clear whether we will be able to repeat the wave of popular resistance, which our ancestors could many times. We now have non-resistance to evil. Or is it just fear and laziness? By the way, Pozharsky was a prince, an oligarch, probably in our opinion.
              1. 0
                28 September 2021 09: 55
                Quote: krok1984
                It is convenient to hide behind such phrases. "I am not ready to defend the interests of the oligarchs and therefore come whoever you want and do what you want, so long as I do not accidentally help the oligarchs."

                Well, the Motherland is constantly captured by someone, then a prince, then a general sek. Only all of them were our own, but strangers did not succeed yet. So far, but now it is not clear whether we will be able to repeat the wave of popular resistance, which our ancestors could many times. We now have non-resistance to evil. Or is it just fear and laziness? By the way, Pozharsky was a prince, an oligarch, probably in our opinion.


                And who should the people resist now?
                NATO soldiers seem to have not crossed the border yet.
                Pozharsky, if anything, showed resistance to the Poles.
                1. -1
                  28 September 2021 10: 00
                  And in your opinion, patriotism lies only in resistance? This is only one of the facets of love for the Motherland.
              2. +1
                28 September 2021 10: 26
                Have you ever thought that patriotism strongly depends on whether there is anything to lose to a person? and in general this is normal .. who has nothing to lose, but he is a helluva lot of patriots - most likely a sick person ..
                1. 0
                  28 September 2021 10: 30
                  Have you ever thought about the fact that a person always has something to lose, unless of course he is sick in the head?
                  1. 0
                    28 September 2021 12: 21
                    Yes .. but this is by no means always connected with the Fatherland in its broadest sense .. You see, for example: a house in the village, a family, children, neighbors, festivities, his own land, traditions .. a person is doing well, he has something to lose and in principle, he is grateful to the ruler, for the fact that he has it and he is definitely a patriot ...
                    And who was the easiest to undermine the government against the government in 1917? Proletarians (According to Dahl's "Explanatory Dictionary", the proletarian is a booby, homeless or landless, homeless, backward.)! and why? but because they had nothing to lose - they need changes, and not to protect the existing situation, where are they beggars .. and how do you attract such people to patriotism? They can and will love their homeland - power is not .. that is, if the proletarian shares the concepts of homeland and rulers - patriotism for him is possible, if not, then no, and it can be very difficult to share in the head - when to live and eat with labor is enough and there is a gap in front (perhaps this is the most important thing) - it is not visible, not about high matters of thought in people in such a situation, if they are not marginal ..
                    1. -1
                      28 September 2021 14: 15
                      And I asked to love power? I spoke about the Motherland.
                      1. +1
                        28 September 2021 14: 51
                        And here I am - did we really discuss me? You were told that the overwhelming majority of people find it difficult to love their homeland "on an empty stomach" .. and you can’t do anything about it, yes, it’s wrong in theory - but it’s so .. that is. the "proletarians" will not be ablaze with great love for the Motherland, although in theory the power and the Motherland are different concepts .. the essence of man is such - he is ready to fight only for something that gives him something good or for an idea (as in the USSR) - what will get what -that after the victory, well, ordinary poor people do not want to die for nothing and not for an idea and not for a good life, it’s strange that this surprises you, this is so normal ... the exception is when there is a war to exterminate people like the Second World War ..
                      2. 0
                        28 September 2021 21: 15
                        Love for money?
                      3. +1
                        28 September 2021 21: 49
                        and that is, do you think that love is without money, and indeed with a lovely paradise and in a hut? then it is clear, you are an idealist, my friend .. and the ideal is good, but it is not achievable ..
  26. +1
    27 September 2021 16: 30
    According to the author, it turns out that Meresiev is the wrong hero,
    In this case, this wording means the cohabitation of a man and a woman, that is, from the standpoint of Christianity, this is fornication.

    In 1940, after graduating from the Bataysk Flight School, he met with the hereditary Cossack Elizaveta Ivanovna Kramarchenko. They did not have time to conclude a marriage. On May 3, 1941, son Valery was born
    They gave birth to a son in fornication.
  27. +4
    27 September 2021 16: 36
    How is Grebenshchikov doing?
    "The generals who shot our fathers are making plans for our children"?
    So it seems.
  28. -4
    27 September 2021 16: 45
    There are three ideologies. Liberalism, its offshoot communism and their opposite, fascism. All three are products of "Western" civilization. Communism and fascism seem to have lost. The author proposes to quickly create a new ideology?
  29. +4
    27 September 2021 16: 53
    Without the patriotism of the "power structures" it is simply pointless to talk about the education of patriotism among young people. As a representative of the "cluster" of teachers, I am convinced of this every day.

    ps And God forbid the author of this "philosophical and legal reference" will be assigned to educate young people! This will be the "voice of Kerensky" in the trenches of the First World War. laughing
  30. 0
    27 September 2021 17: 01
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Is always. A person's motivation to defend his homeland in which he lives in constant poverty and lack of rights, where he does not see a bright future for his children is about zero

    This is a modern ideology.
  31. +2
    27 September 2021 17: 11
    Each person has an understanding of good, bad and very bad. But for some reason something very bad is being imposed on us with sadistic persistence from all cracks. Movies, books, television are all aimed at making a person a moron. But the topic of patriotism is still on the agenda. There will be lessons of patriotism. And what will they give? If at the end of school they no longer remember what Tolstoy or Gogol wrote, then we want to do all this at low cost, and so we are already spending an insignificant amount on education. Only literate (not for a bird) people can be good workers and good warriors.
  32. +2
    27 September 2021 17: 13
    **** In general, summing up, it can be noted that the upbringing of mass patriotism in society should be carried out on the basis of the spiritual strategy of Russia's national security, which must be substantiated, worked out, approved at the federal level and implemented in accordance with the existing and projected challenges and threats of the XNUMXst century.
    AUTHOR:
    Ilyin Yuri Dmitrievich - retired colonel, candidate of technical sciences ****
    Summing up, we can say only one thing - without removing the current managers from power, there is no point in talking about patriotism.
  33. -1
    27 September 2021 17: 58
    I liked the article. Thanks to the author! Only, after all, nothing will be what is proposed.
  34. 0
    27 September 2021 18: 09
    I read it for a long time, but I mastered it. I immediately remembered the evening university of Marxism-Leninism at the Garrison House of Officers. Nobody has refuted the classical formula of Marx that being determines consciousness. I have read almost all the comments and almost all of them boil down to one thought. How to educate patriotism.? On spiritual bonds ..? I beg you On the exploits of the Second World War.? Good, but every year it is less relevant, no matter how much they want it, and the archives are closed for another 50 years. Here and again we return to Marx's formula. Alas
  35. +2
    27 September 2021 19: 26
    Forgive me, ladies and gentlemen, dear members of the forum, but someone squeezed 11 pluses to this nonsense. And you say arrows in schools ...
  36. -2
    27 September 2021 20: 11
    Aged infantiles all expect that the state will put gruel in their mouths, as in the USSR, which they profiled by chewing gum. Then they will be patriots, but now shish! Take a bite, Putin!
  37. LCA
    -2
    27 September 2021 22: 37
    The crisis of any society is an expression of the inadequate life of the dominant ideas in society, realized in practice, about:
    - how should society and its life be organized, and,
    - what norms of behavior an individual in this society should obey, depending on his social status.
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    Explanation of social status. For rulers, patriotism should be a means of unifying society in the name of a just future, and for the governed, patriotism should be an incentive to educate human dignity, reason, conscience and overcome slavish submission to those in power.
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    And everyone has their own Fatherland, which must be loved.

    In Russian, patriotism as love for a just fatherland (state) and obedience to only one Lord - God can be expressed as God-power.
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    Correct patriotism = God. The concept of God-power indicates a universal love for a just Fatherland.
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    The sovereignty of God (the power of God on Earth) is the embodiment of the Truth of God and His Kingdom on Earth through the efforts of people in God's guidance.
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    Justice: the embodiment of the Truth of God and His Kingdom on Earth - the civilization mission of Russia (Russian civilization).
  38. LCA
    -2
    27 September 2021 22: 49
    The present time is not only an era of everyday problems, but it also represents the time given from Above so that people in Russia (Russian civilization) change their minds, give birth and express a dream about the future, on the basis of which the society will develop in the future in a stable and crisis-free way and safe.
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    Democracy according to Truth - Truth is the accessibility for everyone and everyone who wishes to acquire the knowledge and skills necessary for the exercise of the autocracy of conceptual power in society.
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    The “elitist” regime is busy with another attempt in history to build a clan-tribal system with a hereditary-clan “elite,” and therefore it has neither an understanding of the long-term strategic goals of socio-historical development, nor a desire to understand them, much less work to implement them contrary to self-interest clans seized upon state and business power.
    --------------------------------
    Behind all the words about democracy, about law and rule of law, about civil society, about the modernization and revival of the country on the basis of innovative development, there is a strategic choice of the future option.
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    Russia ceases to be a country of fools and scoundrels, in society there is one ethic for all without any double moral and ethical standards like “they all owe me - I don’t owe them anything and don’t owe anything”. Statehood and business power serve the people, society develops on the basis of a certain confession according to the conscience of Divine Providence, which is specified in God-power in dialogue with God.
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    In global politics, the path to achieving this goal is: in one aspect, a lack of understanding on the part of the rest of the world of what is happening in Russia and what it is striving for; in another aspect, there is a conflict with the rulers of the biblical project of enslaving humanity on behalf of God by their slaves and zombies, in which they oppose the Providence with all the consequences arising from this fact - both for themselves and for those who do not recognize their power.
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    The conflict between the "elitized" statehood and the "elitized" business authorities will steadily proceed, exposing the stupidity and depravity, both of which will contribute to the personal development of many people in God and the implementation of the option of the future by the methods of direct matrix-egregorial democracy.
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    As a result of the upcoming transformation of society’s culture, the need for a single party that clearly expresses public interests will also disappear, because the moral and ethical differences between its members and the rest of society will also disappear (in other words, the party will expand informally to the borders of the whole society).
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    And then the party of state power in a society of conceptually powerful people is the only party that society will need to feed.
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    Walking and seeking will overpower the road, and views, worldview, world outlook are the result of true morality.
  39. LCA
    -2
    27 September 2021 23: 12
    Life is a sacred language in which God speaks to everyone and to everyone. But man speaks with God through his thoughts and deeds.
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    In Life, there is that which is intended for man and humanity to satisfy their natural needs and creative interests.
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    But there is also something for which God is intended for both every person and humanity as a whole. And we should not forget about this double conditionality of the existence of each of the people and humanity as a whole.
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    With respect to this process of deliberate change under God's guidance of the collective spirituality of mankind in the global historical process, everything else is related, largely transitory, or similar to “scaffolding and construction debris”, inevitably present on any unfinished construction site, but in no way characterizing either the work of architecture itself as such in its future completed form, nor its purpose.
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    But if God was not mistaken, the Question is: realizing this discrepancy between the state of the “noosphere” and the needs of personality development from infancy to the formation of the human system of the psyche, one can guess that every soul that comes into this World is invited to some kind of set of things to transform collective spirituality - the whole aggregate of human egregors - so that this revealed discrepancy with the passage of historical time in the continuity of generations disappears once and for all?
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    And Life is eternal and infinite, and it is it that manifests itself in the eternally disappearing now.
  40. -2
    28 September 2021 01: 46
    what patriotism ...? Russiaphobes are required ... to ruin this Rashka to the ground ... because that's the only way, but building RUSSIA is something completely different ...
  41. 0
    28 September 2021 11: 06
    There are many different words, right and wrong, but in the main the author is mistaken.
    1 Patriotism is a personality trait of a particular individual... And not a group property.
    There is no group patriotism, there are only joint actions of a group of patriots. "Mass patriotism" is an imitative reaction when acting in a crowd - to be like everyone else. It is possible only with a certain percentage of patriots in this crowd and under certain conditions. Compare, for example, the period of war (that is, a mortal threat to everyone) and the period of the "Khrushchev thaw" in terms of the "intensity of patriotism."
    2 Patriotism under capitalism (man to man is a wolf) - is limited by the definition - love for one's Motherland (place of birth / affection), for one's country. No ideology calling for uniting people for the common good will work. Simply because a person acting under capitalism within the framework of this ideology will inevitably lose the competitive struggle to individualists, that is, be in regression. This ideology will inevitably degenerate, which is clearly confirmed by Comrade Zyuganov and his party. This I mean that one should not be so impressed with illusions - the possibilities of ideologies depend on the economic conditions of life. For the patriotic unity of the people, you must first change the economic formation.
  42. 0
    28 September 2021 17: 26
    In the article for 1 hour of reading, not a single word about conscience and about the titular nation of the majority of the population - the Slavs). The author on the order from the Jews probably, or as he puts on a sword belt, everything becomes duller and duller ..... A man must live according to his conscience, and it does not matter who he is, a Slav, Tatar, German, and so on. And when the majority of the population in the Constitution since its inception has not been noted in any way, when there is no state program for the development of culture, education, limitation of the influence of pakhabism and immorality on the masses, when the laws are punitive in essence, and not protecting that question, but the state itself is in this interested? And who is our state? And who exactly is in power of the state? And this is where the answers begin!) And until the titular nation starts calling itself Slavs, and not the adjective "Russian", then self-identification of people will begin, but then it will be a disaster for those who are now importing migrants, who are cutting the Slavs in Ukraine and Russia and a lot of other things. Wake up those who call themselves Russian! YOU ARE NOT AN ADJUSTMENT! YOU HAVE RUSICH, ARY, THE SLAVIAN FINALLY!
    1. 0
      28 September 2021 20: 35
      Quote: lopuhan2006
      Wake up those who call themselves Russian! YOU ARE NOT AN ADJUSTMENT! YOU HAVE RUSICH, ARY, THE SLAVIAN FINALLY!

      Yes . I am Russian by mother, Ukrainian by father .. I don’t know what other blood my ancestors have. I am proud that I am Russian, but I also don’t accept the ideology of skull meters! I respect the Armenian, Tatar, Jew, German. We have friends, we are friends with families. Are you offering me what?
      1. 0
        28 September 2021 21: 56
        You are just a Slav) And be on their health! And there are no Russians and Ukrainians in your blood, and the Slavs and mom and dad) For you people across the street of a different nationality? Divide and Conquer! After all, it turns out that it is so easy to do) And I will be a Slav, but not an adjective) By the way, my best friends are a Tatar and a Slav from Lugansk)
        1. 0
          29 September 2021 19: 25
          Quote: lopuhan2006
          You are just a Slav) And be on their health! And there are no Russians and Ukrainians in your blood, and the Slavs and mom and dad) For you people across the street of a different nationality? Divide and Conquer! After all, it turns out that it is so easy to do) And I will be a Slav, but not an adjective) By the way, my best friends are a Tatar and a Slav from Lugansk)

          You also say that the Bulgarians are your brothers (as they are Slavs). But I’ll tell you, in terms of DNA, Tajiks are closer to you than Bulgarians.
  43. +2
    29 September 2021 12: 29
    The author was late with the article, about 25 five years.
    What kind of patriotism in this country can we talk about?
    Everything is imbued with lies, disregard for our history, trampling on the memory of our great ancestors, admiration for the West.
    And the most important thing.
    Those who should personify and lead the patriotic education of citizens, from young nails to ripe old age, have lied to the extreme.
    1. The boat sank. Said in an interview with an American correspondent with a nasty make-up on his face.
    Drowned herself?
    According to officials, yes.
    And in fact?
    No.
    Two days later, the director of the CIA rode up. Explained. And he explained.
    Swallowed by a man. And to top it off, the whole world recognized that we have no ice with safety in the fleet.
    Guilty - Admiral Popov was demoted, expelled without a pension, imprisoned?
    No.
    Appointed head of the Rosatom division, where the raised boat was disposed of. Then he sat in various government agencies for many years.
    And what leads to other thoughts - why are they suffering and sawing their nose under water? To spend money?
    Attract foreign specialists? From Norway.
    Do you understand everything yourself?
    2. 25 million new jobs. Where are they?
    3. I will not raise the retirement age and will not change the Constitution either.
    So how? Keeping promises?
    4. Indexation of pensions for working and non-working pensioners is not carried out.
    But what about the cost of living? Why is it not being reviewed? Why underestimate?
    5 Performance in Munich in 2007. A man acted in the role of a provocateur-lead singer.
    And he was ordered to go there and start spreading sedition guys from Washington.
    Unseemly role in humans. Not independent. Under external guidance.
    6. 70% of industrial capital and 80% of the financial capital of the Russian Federation belongs to FOREIGN companies and citizens.
    7. Falsification of elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
    All decency is thrown away here. NOT A SINGLE criminal case. NOT ANY canceled result.
    Even outspoken cynics are breathtaking here.
    Three days instead of one. Unaccounted electronic voting. Massive (millions) ballot stuffing.
    Absolute permissiveness and lack of control.
    Even absolute monarchs do not have such power.

    2/3 of the population of the Russian Federation did not come to the polls.
    Thus, they answered the most important question - will they defend the Fatherland in which they had to be born and live.
    In the presence of those in power whom we constantly see from the TV screen, there can be no talk of any patriotic education.
    Just the opposite.
  44. 0
    29 September 2021 19: 23
    Before looking for a new ideology of the new Russia, you need to try on "Reds" and "White" because society is still split into two camps and are waging a cold war against each other, and the authorities are trying to balance. For example, a Mannerheim plaque, a monument to Kolchak (even Krasnov) and so on, for many part of society they are war heroes, for another they are enemies, also with heroes on the red side. Maybe first we will measure ourselves or civil war again and only then will we comprehend the past?
  45. 0
    30 September 2021 14: 56
    Quote: Dartik
    Quote: lopuhan2006
    You are just a Slav) And be on their health! And there are no Russians and Ukrainians in your blood, and the Slavs and mom and dad) For you people across the street of a different nationality? Divide and Conquer! After all, it turns out that it is so easy to do) And I will be a Slav, but not an adjective) By the way, my best friends are a Tatar and a Slav from Lugansk)

    You also say that the Bulgarians are your brothers (as they are Slavs). But I’ll tell you, in terms of DNA, Tajiks are closer to you than Bulgarians.

    I will not say. I'm not even going to look for who is closer to whom) I would like people to ask questions. And believe me, the more questions there are, the fewer answers) The task was to remove the chronicle from people's memory and replace it with history (from the Torah). Think about it. And who you will be, if only not an adjective. It's so fun when the mother is Ukrainian, the father is "Russian", but it turns out it's the same thing). Then it seems like everyone is our own, then against whom is the war? And for the seed, in Poland, ordinary people consider all of us Slavs) Gee) And what do you mainly read in the media? Is it? Or how are we going to attack them, or they will attack us) Question: who needs it then? Ordinary people? No! Change your tone from the critical, at least from the outside!) And you will see how much other information is around, and possibly another world that you didn’t know before!
  46. -1
    30 September 2021 15: 36
    Quote: Finches
    Why, in the thirty years that have passed after the collapse of the USSR, we have not been able to formulate a national or state ideology?

    Because all this time, the government has not once been able to protect the interests of the Russian people abroad (genocide of Russians in Uzbekistan, Tajikistan), and inside the country (Tuva, Chechnya).
    Because some regions literally fill up with money (but only local elites have it, for loyalty to the center).
    Because the authorities serving the interests of the oligarchs bring hordes of wild migrants to our cities.
    Because the government will never act like the Minister of Defense of Poland and the Minister of Internal Affairs of Poland, who protect their people:

    "Our Plywood and his colleague from the Ministry of Internal Affairs should learn from the Polish ministers of construction modern methods of combating illegal migration, and not dream of" resettlement "to Siberia:
    "Polish ministers showed footage of a migrant having sex with a donkey. In this original way, the authorities decided to warn Poles about the threat from migrants."

    https://t.me/sputnikipogrom/11478

    https://t.me/sputnikipogrom/11477
  47. 0
    30 September 2021 21: 21
    Patriotism is not sustainable without social justice.