The media named the approximate timing of the appearance of a prototype PAK DA

Some data on the implementation of the project of a promising long-range aviation complex have been published. aviation (PAK YES), which should come to replace the existing long-range bombers, including the Tu-22.

According to TASS, at the moment there is a production process for the manufacture of a prototype PAK DA. With reference to industry sources, the news agency reports that this sample will be collected "by 2023".

Earlier in the Western media they said that they "expected" a demonstration of the PAK DA at the MAKS-2021 air show in Zhukovsky. Due to the fact that the demo was not shown, Western reporters even allowed themselves to express some dissatisfaction. This is very strange, considering that none of the developers and manufacturers promised that a demo version of a promising long-range missile carrier would be exhibited this year in the Moscow region.

It should be noted that some time ago information was published that the PAK DA will be made using stealth technology. They plan to arm him with various types weapons, including the Dagger hypersonic cruise missiles. It was also reported that the promising aviation complex will receive a larger range of combat use, the latest avionics, capable, among other things, of countering enemy radio-electronic interference.

Comments

[Gardamir]

That's what I don't understand. Soviet citizens learned about new military equipment when it appeared in the army. Now they find out that someone, somewhere is planning. It will be or not, but it is allowed to rejoice.

[Peak]

Due to the fact that the demo was not shown, Western reporters even allowed themselves to express some dissatisfaction. This is very strange...

"Strange" is not the right word

To be honest, it is not at all clear that the West wants to get a "pain in the ass" as soon as possible in the form of the current PAK YES ...

Or are they no longer residents without the injection of a dose of "adreanalin"?

[Voltsky]

Do you really think that someone is afraid of the Russian Federation? :)

These are journalists and experts, for them any information received and disseminated is a salary.

[carstorm 11]

Because now, not the Union, but the citizens in those days, they could not know anything at all. Where from?) Out of 4 channels on TV on Sundays in the service of the Soviet Union?))) People had informational vacuum at that time. As for why in advance, this is not done for us anymore, but for the enemy. Nobody canceled the information war.

[Mikhail Ishin]

Because the planes are nothing - the image is everything ..
The population is propaganda, but money can be afford.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Gardamir

That's what I don't understand. Soviet citizens learned about the new military equipment when it appeared already in the troops

What is incomprehensible here. Soviet citizens lived in a completely different country, with a different attitude to secrecy and responsibility for unnecessary nonsense.

[Elephant]

There is not enough production capacity in the Russian Federation, especially high-tech ones, so we dance around projects and prototypes.

[Vadim237]

26000 manufacturing enterprises related to mechanical engineering is not enough for you?

[Elephant]

Are "connected" private cooperatives and all kinds of sharags, handicrafts, and also foreign companies separately? The other day, the head of our Rosstat published data, starting in 2013, on industrial production in the Russian Federation - look, the numbers are disappointing!

[rocket757]

The media named the approximate timing of the appearance of a prototype PAK DA

from all sorts of approximate, to real implementation ... it happens in different ways.
As soon as, so immediately ..... there will be something to discuss.

[mvg]

Picture TOP, it is a pity that not with a slate ... From a series, than to score a news feed.

[Lykases1]

Just yesterday we wrote about American stealth. How gloriously he was shot down in Yugoslavia. That the air defense sees it perfectly. And here is our, Russian, stealth. If this technology is not promising, why do we repeat it? Or maybe it makes sense and American stealth is a threat to air defense?

[OgnennyiKotik]

The question here is what to concentrate on on ~ 2500 successful combat missions of the F-117 or on 1 shot down. The main goals are fulfilled, Serbia is left alone without Kosovo, a single state of Iraq does not exist. Air defense did not save, the losses of the "coalition" in the number of sorties are ridiculous.

[Lykases1]

Excellent common sense answer.

[alch3mist]

for ~ 2500 successful combat missions of the F-117

Against natives without radar and air defense? Why did they land it after 1 shot down forever?
"miracle"?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: alch3mist

Against natives without radar and air defense?

Iraq at the beginning of the 90s had the 5th most powerful army in the world. With advanced air defense. Serbs have never been whipping boys.

Quote: alch3mist

Why did they land this "miracle" after 1 shot down forever?

They shot down in 1999, made a decision to write off in 2006, the last one was written off in 2008. They began to write off after the appearance of the F-22, and even managed to fight in the second war in Iraq. So between the shooting down and the decision to write off, 7 years passed and another war. There is no direct connection between these events.

[bk0010]

Quote: Lykases1

And here is our, Russian, stealth. If this technology is not promising, why do we repeat it? Or maybe it makes sense and American stealth is a threat to air defense?

Our main theater of operations is Europe, there is such a density of various radio-electronic means that stealths are pointless: there is always a radar that detects your plane from the side. Stealths make sense against us, but we still have VHF radars in service, the waves of which are too long for the cunning contours of the hull and the radio-absorbing coating to affect them. However, aiming an air defense missile system at stealths is really problematic (you can't do this with a meter radar), you need either a very powerful radar or you need to make a cunning missile. But with the help of a meter radar, you can aim fighters at stealths, their OLS is all stealthy on the drum.

[Jacket in stock]

This stealth does not save them from our radars, and our stealth will be the most invisible.

And if you think about it, then most likely the decision was made in the same way as many times before - "why do they have it, but we do not?"

[Elephant]

It is wise to show off products when they are in mass production and in sufficient quantities in the troops.

[syndicalist]

Even plywood is already lacking in technology? Just a pencil drawing?

[Vadim237]

This drawing generally knows who's the hell - someone from the Internet similar mulyuet.

[Romanenko]

Quote: "Earlier in the Western media it was said that they were 'expecting' a demonstration of the PAK DA at the MAKS-2021 air show in Zhukovsky. Due to the fact that the demo was not shown, Western reporters even allowed themselves to express some dissatisfaction."
And here he is - the moment of truth, you can open your cards and say - You haven't seen him, but he was, this is the quality of our STEELS !!!

[svp67]

which should come to replace the existing long-range bombers, including the Tu-22.

Well, the Tu-95 is also understandable, but the Tu-22 and T-160, with its subsonic speed, as it is not a very equivalent replacement