"Will collide with Abrams - will be in an unenviable position": American magazine about the new North Korean tank

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The closed nature of North Korea gives rise to many myths both about the peculiarities of life in this country, and about the nature of its weapons, combat training of personnel, and so on. There are numerous articles in which the North Korean battle tank "Songun-915" is described as possessing "terrifying" combat power.

The author of the American magazine Popular Mechanics Kyle Mizokami writes that the DPRK, despite its poverty, has managed to accumulate an impressive arsenal of diverse weapons... The Songun 915 main battle tank, also known as the Pokpung-ho IV, is one of the most recent developments. tanks for the ground forces of the DPRK. North Korean tank building has always developed according to the principle of improving old designs. For the economic opportunities of the DPRK, this is the best option.



Tank "Songun 915" is armed with a 125-mm main gun, created on the basis of the Soviet anti-tank gun 2A46. Of course, the American observer also recognizes the high quality of the 2A46 cannon, but asks about the quality of the ammunition used by the North Korean tank. Indeed, now many modern tanks use armor-piercing shells using tungsten or depleted uranium, but does the DPRK, given its economic capabilities, have access to such materials? Mizokami thinks not. But in this case, it is unlikely that a North Korean shell could penetrate the armor of the American M1A2 Abrams tank.

The author writes that if a new DPRK tank collides with Abrams, it will find itself in an unenviable position.

In addition to the cannon, the Songun 915 tank is equipped with two Bulsae-3 ATGM launchers, which is considered by experts as an analogue of the Kornet ATGM and has a firing range of up to 5,5 km. According to Mizokami, if the Songun were able to launch missiles through the gun barrel, there would be no need to install the rather bulky Bulsae.

Another point is the commander's anti-aircraft machine gun. This device is really missing from most tanks. After all, Western tanks use the M2 heavy machine gun, while the North Korean vehicles are armed with larger and more powerful 14,5 mm machine guns. Some Songongs also have a surface-to-air missile unit at the rear.

Mizokami believes that the MANPADS and machine gun are an attempt to negate the huge advantage of the American and South Korean armies in firepower. aviation, but this attempt can hardly be called successful: the new American helicopters are able to easily destroy North Korean tanks, being far beyond the range of their weapons.

As Mizokami admits, the North Korean Songun 915 tank is indeed well-armed, but its weapons cannot be classified as "terrifying" firepower. The addition of weapons, which in most cases is not used on other similar tanks, just indicates the presence of certain weaknesses and does not entail a real increase in the combat power of the vehicle, which is not seen as a rival for the American "Abrams".

Of course, "Songun 915" will be a worthy opponent for non-tank armored vehicles, the American observer concludes, but if the first American or South Korean tanks meet this tank, it will be in a terrible position.
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  1. 0
    24 June 2021 09: 30
    I do not know about the DPRK tanks, but the Korean special forces are the most obsolete. South Koreans periodically meet with them. The DPRK special forces and tank have one "tower" in common. That's why it's scary !!!
    1. +4
      24 June 2021 10: 31
      Quote: tralflot1832

      -3
      I do not know about the DPRK tanks, but the Korean special forces are the most obsolete. South Koreans periodically meet with them. The DPRK special forces and tank have one "tower" in common.

      And I
      for them, and I lived there!
      1. +3
        24 June 2021 10: 37
        Lucky, they drank Korean vodka with ginseng and snake! hi
        1. +4
          24 June 2021 12: 42
          Quote: tralflot1832
          Lucky, they drank Korean vodka with ginseng and snake!


          I drank vodka, you know yourself - Russian and Korean are one family.
        2. +5
          24 June 2021 12: 56
          I tried both at one time and another - incredible muck. With the root of the earth and you still don't understand what it gives, with the snake you are not far from taste. But everyone has their own taste, so Koreans like it.
          1. +3
            24 June 2021 13: 03
            It didn't work with the snake, I was in the sea when it was brought to Murmansk, and it was not ginseng, but turnips were brought out for ginseng, Michurintsy!
            1. +5
              24 June 2021 14: 33
              Land, I don't know whether it was turnip or not, but the taste is rare disgusting) their vodka is so-so, but the food is generally tasty, albeit sooooo spicy drinks
              1. +4
                24 June 2021 14: 37
                I can't be vaccinated for three days, I got vaccinated a second time! Just an anecdote in the subject. In Russia, everyone will run to get vaccinated, only after vodka will be sold only to the vaccinated! hi drinks
                1. +1
                  24 June 2021 14: 39
                  No, I disown. Both my wife and I have been ill. Her friend, a medic, and she says that everyone is against vaccination. As an argument, he argues that no one knows the side effects. From the word at all. The vaccine was developed very quickly. And it is not known how it was tested. So I pass for now ...
                  1. +2
                    24 June 2021 14: 47
                    You have time, you have been ill, it means there are antibodies. In the Krasnodar Territory, only vaccinated people will be accommodated in hotels. And the work is now such, foreigners are a dime a dozen. Poe fled from their Europe and India.
                2. Alf
                  +2
                  24 June 2021 19: 58
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  In Russia, everyone will run to get vaccinated, only after the vodka will be sold only to the vaccinated!

                  They won't run. They will start driving moonshine. In the 90s this "natural product" was driven by the whole country and the quality was often better than the factory one.
                  1. +1
                    24 June 2021 19: 59
                    Duc is sacred - we are distillers!
    2. 0
      27 June 2021 05: 57
      What common?! If the spetsnaz does not have a turret, but the tank does!
      1. +1
        27 June 2021 06: 34
        The question is who is sitting in these towers, as crazy as their special forces. So far, there have been no commercials with Chuch heh tankmen.
  2. +4
    24 June 2021 09: 34
    The tower is like that of the T-55, I wonder if they have an automatic loader in there or manually charge it.
    1. +6
      24 June 2021 09: 50
      Eun is surrounded by enemies as best he can, what resources he has - so he arms / modernizes.
      But if you open the border, transfer power to the transitional government, and follow the lead of the United States and Soros, then North Korea will quickly turn into Iraq and Libya, occupied by South Korea.
      At first, humanitarian aid, old cars and household appliances will pour in, but the people of North Korea will always be second-class for the Southerners and the United States with the West. And, in this case, Eun, as the leader of the Jamahiriya, will be given up to be torn apart by the radicals. And the UK party will change clothes or flee to China.
      Therefore, Eun keeps the stratum closed, catches up with military hysteria and tries to maintain the army at some minimum combat-ready level based on the available technologies. Even the Air Force is actually suicide bombers. most of the aircraft are very outdated, and the air defense is mostly barrel-mounted, like that of Iraq on the eve of the US aggression against it.
      1. +4
        24 June 2021 10: 45
        Quote: mojohed2012
        but, the people of North Korea will always be second-class for the Southerners and the USA with the West

        South Koreans themselves don't want that kind of happiness. They are not stupid people, and they looked closely at Germany's experience in unification. Well, that is, they do not mind that Kim was thrown off and even tore into shreds, and they will be happy to help with used cars and household appliances - they will not have to spend money on recycling themselves. And the factories will be built - cheap labor did not interfere with anyone, and hazardous waste is not in their country. But the border will be opened only in one direction for their tourists, the crowds of half-starved northerners who want to taste the southern paradise did not give the heck to them.
      2. The comment was deleted.
    2. +7
      24 June 2021 09: 57
      The tank is made on the basis of the T-62, to be more precise, based on the Cheonmaho. There is an automatic loader, because crew of 3 people.
    3. +1
      24 June 2021 10: 16
      Quote: Alex_You
      did they have an automatic loader in there?
      The automatic loader did not fit in the turret, but a 125 mm gun climbed into the turret. In general, it is believed that the tank borrowed a lot from the T-90, which was secretly brought into the country and studied.

      Yankees in vain crucify about outdated tanks, the terrain in the DPRK is mountainous, and their "Abrams", like other infantry warriors, will not be sweet when they go there. Given the mountainous terrain and the obvious superiority of the potential enemy in the air, each tank is equipped with two anti-aircraft missiles, and two more anti-tank missiles (analogous to our Kornet), if the 125 mm cannon against the Abrams is not enough.

      You can see them in the photo.
    4. +1
      25 June 2021 08: 58
      The photo in the article is an old tank.
      The new Korean tank looks different.
  3. +7
    24 June 2021 09: 40
    And that the North Koreans are going to the States in tanks? If not, how will the abrashka face them?
    1. +6
      24 June 2021 09: 47
      Koreans are not going to, but Western couch strategists like to compare advanced weapons with obsolete, even if this clash is not even hypothetically possible.
      1. 0
        24 June 2021 10: 04
        Quote: Canecat
        western couch strategist

        they love to suck their theories out of films like Red Dawn, The Fall of Olympus, and Homefront toymakers.
    2. +3
      24 June 2021 10: 13
      Quote: Captive
      And that the North Koreans are going to the States in tanks? If not, how will the abrashka face them?

      Yes, it will not collide in any way. On the other hand, his cannon is delicious. Well, no need to head-on with the "Black Panthers" ... Ambushes, coverage, and so on. As a PTO, such a tank is quite adequate.
  4. +4
    24 June 2021 09: 47
    It is impossible to upgrade a sailboat for an infinitely long time, whatever one may say, but you will not get the characteristics of a sailboat in it.
  5. +3
    24 June 2021 09: 49
    "Will face Abrams - will be in an unenviable position"
    So who is arguing about the technical superiority of the United States over the DPRK? But in a real battle, the training of the crew, its morale and will to win can tip the scales towards victory even on an outdated tank. History shows that "Abrams" burned well and did not collide with enemy tanks. And if you perceive the enemy as a starving soldier dreaming of surrendering to the Americans or South Koreans, then in the end you can get a big "surprise." Therefore, probably it is not necessary for an American observer to shout a hop until he has jumped over.
    1. -5
      24 June 2021 11: 00
      Yes, I remember how they waited for the Abrams to meet and crash against Saddam's guards divisions ... waited, met .... and walked through them almost without noticing .... with all their "fighting spirit", "excellent Russian equipment", " motivation in the struggle for the homeland ", etc. etc.
      1. +2
        24 June 2021 18: 41
        A million dollars for each general, only 50 was. Everyone was taken to the states ...
        1. +2
          25 June 2021 02: 35
          Do you have documents, evidence or fake?
          Or just cons?
    2. Alf
      0
      24 June 2021 20: 03
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Therefore, probably it is not necessary for an American observer to shout a hop until he has jumped over.

      So the columnist himself will not go to war.
    3. AIP
      0
      26 June 2021 11: 29
      "crew training" is money. Big money. I doubt that the DPRK is able to maintain adequate training for its armada.
  6. -2
    24 June 2021 09: 50
    So there are tungsten deposits in Korea, there may be sub-caliber shells. But they have it, that is still a pretzel.
  7. +1
    24 June 2021 09: 52
    And where does Abrams have to do with it? if you compare, then with the tanks of South Korea! and not only the number of trunks, but all other parameters.
  8. +5
    24 June 2021 09: 53
    The Songun-2 has no chance against the South Korean XK-120 Black Panther tank with a German-licensed 915-mm cannon capable of firing homing shells that hit enemy tanks from above.
  9. -3
    24 June 2021 10: 00
    The most modern US army at that time could not defeat the Koreans, armed with three-line and PPSh, in the war of the last century. And now the "hamburger eaters" want to intimidate the Koreans with a nuclear bomb ?!
    Apparently Vietnam taught them nothing.
    1. +2
      24 June 2021 10: 34
      Quote: prior
      the US Army was unable to defeat the Koreans, armed with three-line and PCA, in the war of the last century.

      Koreans, as well as an immeasurable number of Chinese "volunteers", covered from the air by an entire division of the USSR Air Force under the command of Kozhedub himself.
      1. +1
        24 June 2021 15: 44
        They're not there!)))
        Then you are rightly confusing, then there were Korean ases Ko Zhe Dub and Li Xi Qing laughing
        1. +1
          24 June 2021 19: 29
          Quote: Zhenya of Khazar
          They're not there!)))
          Then you are rightly confusing, then there were Korean ases Ko Zhe Dub and Li Xi Qing laughing
          N.V. Sutyagin
          Nikolay Vasilyevich Sutyagin
          149 sorties
          66 air battles
          22 personally shot down planes
          Was submitted to twice to the Hero of the USSR - but did not grow together ...
          soldier
          1. Alf
            +1
            24 June 2021 20: 04
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Nikolay Vasilyevich Sutyagin

            Su Cha Gin?
          2. 0
            24 June 2021 22: 41
            My regards!
            I hope you have no doubt understood that it was sarcasm.
            And we used to mention Comrade Sutyagin together with Comrade Pepeliaev (20 wins).
            Eagles!
            1. +1
              24 June 2021 23: 04
              Quote: Zhenya of Khazar
              My regards!
              And we used to mention Comrade Sutyagin together with Comrade Pepeliaev (20 wins).
              Eagles!
              I just took the opportunity to mention the Hero of the USSR ...
              Young people - read the comment, maybe they will remember the Hero.
              So you mentioned the Hero of the USSR
              E. G. Pepelyaev Hero of the USSR
              Evgeny Georgievich Pepelyaev is the commander of the 196th Fighter Aviation Regiment.
              It is believed that E.G. Pepelyaev shot down 23 aircraft, but 3 Victories of them he gave to his wingman A. Ryzhkov .
              Information from "Aunt Vicki" - read, take an interest in the Heroes of your Motherland - youth ...
              soldier
      2. 0
        25 June 2021 09: 10
        Not a division but an air defense corps. In the composition of one air defense division and two fighter divisions for the mig-15. But air superiority was still on the side of the United States. As well as technical on earth. And they could not win, now in case of war there will certainly be support from China, and possibly from Russia too. This is the main trump card of North Korea, which, under certain circumstances, can even lead to victory on earth.
    2. -10
      24 June 2021 11: 04
      "We could not win" is a dubious term. Those who "could not win" die of hunger regularly, and live in everyday life at the level of the 16th century. And the half that "could not" live better than Russia, and even better than three quarters of the rest of the world .... Paradox
  10. +1
    24 June 2021 10: 11
    There are numerous articles in which the North Korean battle tank "Songun-915" is described as possessing "terrifying" combat power.

    In my opinion, on the contrary, most of the articles belittle the combat characteristics of North Korean equipment ...
  11. +3
    24 June 2021 10: 25
    if the new DPRK tank collides with the Abrams, it will be in an unenviable position.


    The author did not wonder how a North Korean tank with an abrashka could meet on the battlefield?
    To do this, the imu needs to get into the Omeriga somehow, which is very unlikely, but the abrashka can get to Korea.
    But who then turns out to be the aggressor? Are the North Koreans on their own land?
    1. -2
      24 June 2021 10: 35
      From who is the aggressor and who does not change the performance characteristics of the technique? Against the new tanks of South Korea, he also has little chance, and they are on their own soil.
  12. +2
    24 June 2021 10: 30
    Many modern tanks use armor-piercing shells using tungsten or depleted uranium, but does the DPRK, given its economic capabilities, have access to such materials? Mizokami thinks not.

    Kim has been engaged in uranium enrichment for a long time and has achieved some success in this matter. And if there is enriched uranium, then there must be depleted uranium - it must be put somewhere, so why not in shells?
    But in terms of protection, judging by the photo, it has only steel armor, there is no dynamic protection and, judging by the achieved technological level, it will not, at least in the foreseeable future. So this tank will live until the first hit with a cumulative or crowbar.
  13. 0
    24 June 2021 20: 46
    In my opinion, the DPRK has very large reserves of rare earth metals. And on the subject of the range of destruction ... in my opinion, the main thing is to correctly apply, very rugged terrain in North Korea
  14. 0
    25 June 2021 08: 58
    I would like to remind the author that the T-34 was much inferior to the German heavy tanks and? And look at the scoreboard.
  15. -1
    26 June 2021 12: 21
    Everything is not so for them. They have better tanks, and they live better than us. So go there and live there. The flag is in your hands. And the Koreans will cope on their own. The only thing is that they are not touched like Iraq, Libya, Syria. and the rest already says that they are feared. There is no doubt that the United States will be able to defeat them in the war. But at what cost? Probably South Korea will definitely not be lucky. And if there is a bomb, then Japan and South Korea will not be ice for several decades .What blow to the reputation of the United States will deal?
  16. 0
    28 September 2023 11: 56
    Abrams won't even reach him because of the short gun. As it happened in Iraq, Abrams hit T-72s from afar and everything was fine.
    And the DPRK also has the M2020, which will be better than the Abrams.
    They definitely have new types of shells, since China gives them the technology for their own production.