US Department of Defense intends to purchase Mi-24 helicopter and An-2 aircraft

The Pentagon intends to purchase Russian Mi-24 or Mi-17 helicopters, as well as the An-2 aircraft. As stated in the notice to the potential contract, this technique is necessary to familiarize American instructors with their capabilities. Reported by RT.

According to the news agency, the Russian Mi-24 (Mi-17) helicopter and the An-2 aircraft will be used as "realistic simulated adversaries" at the US Marine Corps Advanced Flight Training Center in Yuma, Arizona.

For familiarization in the flight phase of the tactics and weapons courses, two aircraft provided by the contractor will participate as a realistic simulated enemy during the performance of the specified flight exercises in accordance with the instructions of the commander of MAWTS-1 (the first squadron of training in weapons and tactics aviation Marine Corps)

- says the notice to the potential contract.

Earlier, in early October this year, the US Department of Defense placed an order for a batch of full-size dummies of various designs weapons Soviet production. The American military was especially interested in the full-size models of RPG-7 grenade launchers, Strela-2 air defense systems, Kalashnikov assault rifles and machine guns, Dragunov SVD sniper rifle, F-1, RGD-5 and RG-42 grenades.

According to the request, the dummies will be used to develop "enemy weapons skills" in US troops at the Fort Benning military base in Georgia.

Comments

[NDR-791]

According to the request, the dummies will be used to develop "enemy weapons skills" among US troops at the Fort Benning military base in Georgia.
You need this to our airsoft players. For "skill development" of breaking away from chasing on rough terrain. You can also go to the Japanese - karate # 99 - exhausting the enemy with a run

[Trapp1st]

exhausting the enemy with a run

This is for the Georgian Armed Forces (with all due respect to the Georgians)

[figwam]

this technique is essential to familiarize American instructors with their capabilities.

Isn't 30 years after the collapse of the USSR enough to study the Mi-24 or An-2?
They lie like breathing.

[raw174]

Quote: figvam

They lie like breathing.

Definitely! They want to know the secret of sprinkling corn and potatoes)))

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: raw174

Definitely! They want to know the secret of sprinkling corn and potatoes))

AN-2 should not be sold under any guise, so as not to disclose super-secret technology

[fruc]

There are no problems with this equipment and weapons in the world and there are no problems to buy it on the side. Another question is what it is for really they need.

[figwam]

Quote: frruc

Another question is why they really need it.

Maybe they are preparing some kind of provocation.

[vvvjak]

Russian Mi-24 (Mi-17) helicopter and An-2 aircraft will be used as a "realistic simulated enemy"

Here An-2 is just the most "realistic". You can also look for Po-2 in museums, suddenly the US pilots and the "cornman" will get scared.

[Free wind]

AN-2 is a "corn plant" and is, fields were cultivated from it, including corn. And PO-2 was developed when very few people knew about corn. Do not repeat fairy tales, biplane does not mean maize.

[vvvjak]

By the word "maize" I meant An - 2. Read the comment carefully.

[askort154]

Free wind.... AN-2 is a "maize", and fields were cultivated from it, including corn. And PO-2 was developed when very few people knew about corn. Do not repeat fairy tales, a biplane does not mean a corn plant.

Do not say this only to the pilots who flew on the An-2. The aviation never called the An-2 "maize". This "stuck" to the Po-2 at the beginning of its operation, when, after an engine failure, it successfully landed in a corn field. With the advent of the second biplane An-2, the inhabitants, observing it in flight from the ground, took it for the Po-2 "maize", and when the Po-2 was written off, so for the An-2 it "drove" it stuck. And besides, An-2 processed not only corn, but all agricultural lands: wheat, beets, melons, vineyards, cotton and forests. But, based on your "logic", they did not name him, neither "watermelon", nor "beetroot", nor "forester". Not a "fireman", although he was such - he was very actively used in forest protection, he threw paratroopers to the centers of fires in the taiga.

[DenZ]

Yes, they bluff as always. What the American pilots in An-2 did not see there. Most likely they will remake it like Azerbaijan under drony kamikaze. The fact that the An-2 is not in service with the Aerospace Forces makes it absolutely no "realistic enemy"

[Runway]

It is fully in service with the Aerospace Forces.

[sifgame]

Don't write nonsense, why would they make a kamikaze drone from the AN-2?

[Andre___86]

An-2 why ???

[polar fox]

Quote: Andre___86

An-2 why?

in Karabakh, a very cheap unmanned aerial vehicle turned out ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Andre___86

An-2 why ???

In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

[Reviews]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote: Andre___86

An-2 why ???

In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h B-92 at a speed of <200 km / h.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Avis

Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h at a speed <200 km / h.

But practically neither in summer nor in winter does it require a specially prepared runway.
China still produces AN-2 under license.

[Reviews]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

Quote: Avis

Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h at a speed <200 km / h.

But practically neither in summer nor in winter does it require a specially prepared runway.

I wrote only about efficiency. "All-terrain" does not justify gluttony. "Otter" is also not particularly picky about the coating.
But it requires in spring and autumn. More than once it happened that having arrived at the "dried up" (according to the report) GVPP, An-2 represented a plow with its wheels. And the thaw we have - almost 1 / 6th year. Or 1 / 5th.

[zlinn]

so the cessna caravan is not particularly demanding on coverage, but more economical than the an-2, faster and in management almost as 182

[Reviews]

Quote: zlinn

so the cessna caravan is not particularly demanding on coverage, but more economical than the an-2, faster and in management almost as 182

Uh ... What are you talking about? I did not write about cross-country vehicle as a self-sufficient justification. BUT "caravan", after all, is demanding - the wheels are too small.

[zlinn]

I accidentally, I wanted to answer the haze, for the caravan there are wheels and larger, but there really is a problem with the front landing gear, it is weak, and when landing on rough ground, you need to hold the front landing in the water to the last, and you can still break it, for silly rough surfaces there are a whole bunch of special TABLES

[Reviews]

Quote: zlinn

I accidentally wanted to answer a haze

Clear.

[askort154]

Avis ...Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h at a speed <200 km / h.

Everything is relative. Considering the fact that it will transport 12 people over a distance of 200 km, having spent only 10 liters per person, then this is a good indicator, even now. ,

[Reviews]

Quote: askort154

it will transport 12 people to a distance of 200 km., having spent only 10 liters per person, this is a good indicator, even now. ,

I disagree. I'm too lazy to look for the consumption of the same "Otter" or "Porter", but the 800hp motor. any more economical than 1000-strong. "Lost" is lucky only 10, but "Otter" - almost the same 12, eleven. Again, the retraction monoplane has less drag. No, An-2 is not economical at all.

[72jora72]

Lost "lucky only 10, but" Otter "

A small problem, they are not intended for our frosts, and the airstrips of Siberia and the Far North ...

[Reviews]

Quote: 72jora72

Lost "lucky only 10, but" Otter "

A small problem, they are not intended for our frosts, and the airstrips of Siberia and the Far North ...

Who told you this nonsense? Spit in his eyes.

[vvvjak]

Quote from Uncle Lee

In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

Was such, bought in Europe and distilled in the United States. Only there were questions about economy. Yes, and the oil supply system in flight had to be "pinned". Otherwise, everything is correct, the main thing invariably caused a furor among the audience.

[Reviews]

Quote: vvvjak

the oil supply system in flight had to be "pinned".

Where is he doing the oil system?

[vvvjak]

Quote: Avis

Where is he doing the oil system?

They took a tube into the cockpit to add oil right in flight.

[Reviews]

Quote: vvvjak

Quote: Avis

Where is he doing the oil system?

They took a tube into the cockpit to add oil right in flight.

The An-2 has a well balanced oil tank with fuel tanks. Oil will not run out earlier than fuel, unless the engine is crumpled to death.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Avis

The An-2 has a well balanced oil tank with fuel tanks.

So they flew across the Atlantic on it. Therefore, add. the tanks in the cabin also installed an oil supply system.

[Reviews]

Quote: vvvjak

Quote: Avis

The An-2 has a well balanced oil tank with fuel tanks.

So they flew across the Atlantic on it. Therefore, add. the tanks in the cabin also installed an oil supply system.

They drove through Iceland and Greenland. The distances are considerable, but for the An-2 in the standard configuration they are quite real: the capacity of the vehicle is 1200l, the flow rate is 120l / h, Vcr. 180 km / h in calm weather.

[vvvjak]

Quote: Avis

They drove through Iceland and Greenland. The distances are considerable, but for the An-2 in the standard configuration they are quite real: the capacity of the vehicle is 1200l, the flow rate is 120l / h, Vcr. 180 km / h in calm weather.

I no longer remember how they flew. But even if through Iceland and Greenland, then the flight range is 1000 km. An - 2 will not be enough.

[Reviews]

Quote: vvvjak

flight range of 1000 km. An - 2 will not be enough.

I have given you all the data for the calculation. but, since you are too lazy to get the calculator, I will save my time and just show you something:

[Uncle lee]

I don’t say how economical the An-2 is, it’s an airplane, and from the last century! And how much ZIL-157 ate off-road?
60 liters according to TU, but really 100 off-road.

[swnvaleria]

there is a cool movie on YouTube called "on en 2 from europe to america" ​​where a German of Greek origin flew in the usa, dispatchers took him over New York for a helicopter due to low speed and allowed him to fly over the city, a very interesting video.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote: Andre___86

An-2 why ???

In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

Recently I watched a story about how the Germans installed an additional gas tank on the An-2 and flew it across the Atlantic to the USA.
Desperate guys.

[tralflot1832]

An 2 in North Korea is used as an attack aircraft, worked on the target with NURs and immediately landing on the head! Lyapota!

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

China is testing a drone based on An-2:

[seregin-s1]

This is their idea of ​​the level of our videoconferencing.)

[Magic archer]

Well, with the Mi-24 everything is still clear, but why do they need the An-2 ?! He's not in service as a BE ...

[Navigator Basov]

Considering that they want an Mi-24 to pair with him, most likely they looked at their AH (AH-1, AH-64) and decided to buy "the same" our An.

[Archivist Vasya]

as stated in the notice to the potential contract, this technique is necessary to familiarize American instructors with their capabilities.

How old is the Mi-24 and other Soviet weapons in the article? For a long time after the collapse of the Union, they were bought by them for familiarization, and they managed to steal something under the USSR. It’s strange to read about it now.

[cniza]

According to the request, the dummies will be used to develop "enemy weapons skills" in US troops at the Fort Benning military base in Georgia.

And ours study, but it's better not on dummies and our goals are different ...

[rocket757]

Hi
So everyone learns, everyone has their own methodology, but so Schaub was fundamentally different, it's unlikely.

[cniza]

Good time!

Uh-huh, only we set a different goal, to be able to repulse the enemy with weapons ...

[rocket757]

Military doctrines of states dictate EVERYTHING. The conditions for the formation, supply and training of the Armed Forces depend on the tasks that politicians set for them.

[cniza]

This is all true, but what is the task associated with the acquisition of a corn plant?

[rocket757]

Not no, it is given to understand, explain, not to everyone.

[cniza]

That's all and guessing over this puzzle ...

[faiver]

Yeah, buying An-2 kind of raises the question of the level of intelligence of buyers

[Navigator Basov]

Yeah, they thought it was an attack helicopter. They will spy on the latest technologies there for modernizing their AH-1, maybe they will call it AH-2.

[Prisoner]

Why? "Crocodile" and An-2 no words - excellent devices, but why not Po-2 or Mi-2 or that trenchant I-16? To explore the possibilities so to speak.

[Free wind]

The I-16 was a very heavy aircraft to control. He was very strict about management. If the car turns around on the road, this does not mean super-maneuverability, it means that it is difficult to drive it.

[evgen1221]

Really strange, An2 can be bought from us, it costs a lot for the model of those killed throughout the country, according to the shooter to the local state airsoft players. What can they only learn from such models?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: evgen1221

What can they only learn from such models?

Excerpt.
There is a run-in with tanks, there will be an "fly-by" of the An-2.

[evgen1221]

Yeah, covering by crawling through the belly of a standing model with fantasizing how it proudly flew over you))))

[Alien From]

Money in the morning, chairs in the evening)

[iouris]

A special operation is being prepared.

[Prisoner]

To capture all An-2s remaining on the wing.

[rocket757]

A helicopter, this is understandable ... but why would they need a "maize"?

[Reviews]

Quote: rocket757

Why do they need a "maize"?

They are preparing for revenge. :)

[Left shot]

Our enemy is buying products to study how best to destroy us. And our colonial power, as always obsequiously protruding its butts, sells everything ...

[Prisoner]

It seems that they do not buy from Ukraine. What does "colonial power" have to do with it?

[Left shot]

Is the colony "Rossiyaniya" different from the colony "Ukraine"? Tryndezhom in zombie boxes?

[Prisoner]

The difference is that you are a colony in fact, and RUSSIA is a colony in your wet dreams.

[Left shot]

Who are "we? I am personally Russian, living in Russia all my life. By the way, the majority of kremlebotni, including bots in the zomboyaschik, are non-Russians, which is a characteristic feature of the lackeys of the colonial power, killing the country and arranging the genocide of the population, primarily the Russians.
And all the top functionaries of this colonial (occupation) power in Russia have a residence permit or citizenship (like Goebbels's belch of Sands, for example), their own or their wives - in other countries. Capital and their larvae are not kept in this country. Which is also typical.

So who are you and us?

[Prisoner]

Come on, don't fuss, "Russian". "Donkey's ears give out."

[andr327]

Apparently someone in America began to study the history of the Second World War, and came across our "Night Witches". I learned about the combat use of the Po-2 maize, and then Google showed the AN-2 maize. And so the Americans found out the most terrible secret about the most dangerous Russian plane.

[Reviews]

Quote: andr327

Apparently someone in America began to study the history of the Second World War, and came across our "Night Witches". I learned about the combat use of the Po-2 maize, and then Google showed the AN-2 maize. And so the Americans found out the most terrible secret about the most dangerous Russian plane.

The Yankes themselves faced Po-2s - during the Korean War, Po-2s bombed them at night.

[Esaul]

Probably they want to make a 2th generation fighter based on An-6

[vadim dok]

Forgive me, but what does the AN-2 have to do with the modern Russian army and WEAPON?

[opuonmed]

What are they preparing they bought weapons Shas aviation they are preparing provocation or they will use a small army

[Navigator Basov]

It is necessary in response to launch a story that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation intends to purchase Zumwalt for scrap.

[Land defence]

Again they are preparing some dirty trick ...

[Interlocutor]

Let more Siberian bears zatar ... The infantry will be portrayed.

[cosmonaut]

what else, An2 is our most secret stealth. In no case should we sell it. And also the F1 grenade, RPG 7, and AKM. Let them buy magnificent copies from the Chinese)) I have a self-propelled gun lying behind the barn, which I made as a child , I can offer American instructors to develop skills with handling)))) and the replacement grenade is a refractory brick)))