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US Department of Defense intends to purchase Mi-24 helicopter and An-2 aircraft

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US Department of Defense intends to purchase Mi-24 helicopter and An-2 aircraft

The Pentagon intends to purchase Russian Mi-24 or Mi-17 helicopters, as well as the An-2 aircraft. As stated in the notice to the potential contract, this technique is necessary to familiarize American instructors with their capabilities. Reported by RT.


According to the news agency, the Russian Mi-24 (Mi-17) helicopter and the An-2 aircraft will be used as "realistic simulated adversaries" at the US Marine Corps Advanced Flight Training Center in Yuma, Arizona.

For familiarization in the flight phase of the tactics and weapons courses, two aircraft provided by the contractor will participate as a realistic simulated enemy during the performance of the specified flight exercises in accordance with the instructions of the commander of MAWTS-1 (the first squadron of training in weapons and tactics aviation Marine Corps)

- says the notice to the potential contract.

Earlier, in early October this year, the US Department of Defense placed an order for a batch of full-size dummies of various designs weapons Soviet production. The American military was especially interested in the full-size models of RPG-7 grenade launchers, Strela-2 air defense systems, Kalashnikov assault rifles and machine guns, Dragunov SVD sniper rifle, F-1, RGD-5 and RG-42 grenades.

According to the request, the dummies will be used to develop "enemy weapons skills" in US troops at the Fort Benning military base in Georgia.


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  1. NDR-791
    NDR-791 1 December 2020 12: 07
    +2
    According to the request, the dummies will be used to develop "enemy weapons skills" among US troops at the Fort Benning military base in Georgia.
    You need this to our airsoft players. For "skill development" of breaking away from chasing on rough terrain. You can also go to the Japanese - karate # 99 - exhausting the enemy with a run
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 1 December 2020 12: 12
      +4
      exhausting the enemy with a run
      This is for the Georgian Armed Forces (with all due respect to the Georgians)
    2. figwam
      figwam 1 December 2020 12: 36
      +6
      this technique is essential to familiarize American instructors with their capabilities.

      Isn't 30 years after the collapse of the USSR enough to study the Mi-24 or An-2?
      They lie like breathing.
      1. raw174
        raw174 1 December 2020 12: 57
        +9
        Quote: figvam
        They lie like breathing.

        Definitely! They want to know the secret of sprinkling corn and potatoes)))
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 1 December 2020 18: 40
          +7
          Quote: raw174
          Definitely! They want to know the secret of sprinkling corn and potatoes))

          AN-2 should not be sold under any guise, so as not to disclose super-secret technology
      2. frruc
        frruc 1 December 2020 13: 46
        +1
        There are no problems with this equipment and weapons in the world and there are no problems to buy it on the side. Another question is what it is for really they need.
        1. figwam
          figwam 1 December 2020 15: 24
          +2
          Quote: frruc
          Another question is why they really need it.

          Maybe they are preparing some kind of provocation.
  2. vvvjak
    vvvjak 1 December 2020 12: 12
    +11
    Russian Mi-24 (Mi-17) helicopter and An-2 aircraft will be used as a "realistic simulated enemy"

    Here An-2 is just the most "realistic". You can also look for Po-2 in museums, suddenly the US pilots and the "cornman" will get scared.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 1 December 2020 12: 25
      -6
      AN-2 is a "corn plant" and is, fields were cultivated from it, including corn. And PO-2 was developed when very few people knew about corn. Do not repeat fairy tales, biplane does not mean maize.
      1. vvvjak
        vvvjak 1 December 2020 12: 33
        +2
        By the word "maize" I meant An - 2. Read the comment carefully.
      2. askort154
        askort154 1 December 2020 13: 19
        +2
        Free wind.... AN-2 is a "maize", and fields were cultivated from it, including corn. And PO-2 was developed when very few people knew about corn. Do not repeat fairy tales, a biplane does not mean a corn plant.

        Do not say this only to the pilots who flew on the An-2. The aviation never called the An-2 "maize". This "stuck" to the Po-2 at the beginning of its operation, when, after an engine failure, it successfully landed in a corn field. With the advent of the second biplane An-2, the inhabitants, observing it in flight from the ground, took it for the Po-2 "maize", and when the Po-2 was written off, so for the An-2 it "drove" it stuck. And besides, An-2 processed not only corn, but all agricultural lands: wheat, beets, melons, vineyards, cotton and forests. But, based on your "logic", they did not name him, neither "watermelon", nor "beetroot", nor "forester". Not a "fireman", although he was such - he was very actively used in forest protection, he threw paratroopers to the centers of fires in the taiga. yes hi
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 1 December 2020 12: 31
      -2
      Yes, they bluff as always. What the American pilots in An-2 did not see there. Most likely they will remake it like Azerbaijan under drony kamikaze. The fact that the An-2 is not in service with the Aerospace Forces makes it absolutely no "realistic enemy"
      1. Runway
        Runway 1 December 2020 13: 15
        +2
        It is fully in service with the Aerospace Forces.
      2. sifgame
        sifgame 1 December 2020 14: 03
        +1
        Don't write nonsense, why would they make a kamikaze drone from the AN-2?
  3. Andre___86
    Andre___86 1 December 2020 12: 14
    +4
    An-2 why ???
    1. polar fox
      polar fox 1 December 2020 12: 16
      +4
      Quote: Andre___86
      An-2 why?

      in Karabakh, a very cheap unmanned aerial vehicle turned out ...
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 December 2020 12: 22
      +3
      Quote: Andre___86
      An-2 why ???

      In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.
      1. Reviews
        Reviews 1 December 2020 12: 36
        +3
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Andre___86
        An-2 why ???

        In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

        Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h B-92 at a speed of <200 km / h.
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 1 December 2020 13: 00
          +3
          Quote: Avis
          Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h at a speed <200 km / h.

          But practically neither in summer nor in winter does it require a specially prepared runway.
          China still produces AN-2 under license.
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 1 December 2020 13: 07
            +1
            Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
            Quote: Avis
            Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h at a speed <200 km / h.

            But practically neither in summer nor in winter does it require a specially prepared runway.

            I wrote only about efficiency. "All-terrain" does not justify gluttony. "Otter" is also not particularly picky about the coating.
            But it requires in spring and autumn. More than once it happened that having arrived at the "dried up" (according to the report) GVPP, An-2 represented a plow with its wheels. And the thaw we have - almost 1 / 6th year. Or 1 / 5th.
            1. zlinn
              zlinn 1 December 2020 13: 38
              -1
              so the cessna caravan is not particularly demanding on coverage, but more economical than the an-2, faster and in management almost as 182
              1. Reviews
                Reviews 1 December 2020 13: 43
                0
                Quote: zlinn
                so the cessna caravan is not particularly demanding on coverage, but more economical than the an-2, faster and in management almost as 182

                Uh ... What are you talking about? I did not write about cross-country vehicle as a self-sufficient justification. BUT "caravan", after all, is demanding - the wheels are too small.
                1. zlinn
                  zlinn 1 December 2020 13: 52
                  0
                  I accidentally, I wanted to answer the haze, for the caravan there are wheels and larger, but there really is a problem with the front landing gear, it is weak, and when landing on rough ground, you need to hold the front landing in the water to the last, and you can still break it, for silly rough surfaces there are a whole bunch of special TABLES
                  1. Reviews
                    Reviews 1 December 2020 13: 53
                    0
                    Quote: zlinn
                    I accidentally wanted to answer a haze

                    Clear.
        2. askort154
          askort154 1 December 2020 13: 31
          +3
          Avis ...Anything but economical. 110-150 l / h at a speed <200 km / h.

          Everything is relative. Considering the fact that it will transport 12 people over a distance of 200 km, having spent only 10 liters per person, then this is a good indicator, even now. hi ,
          1. Reviews
            Reviews 1 December 2020 13: 46
            0
            Quote: askort154
            it will transport 12 people to a distance of 200 km., having spent only 10 liters per person, this is a good indicator, even now. hi ,

            I disagree. I'm too lazy to look for the consumption of the same "Otter" or "Porter", but the 800hp motor. any more economical than 1000-strong. "Lost" is lucky only 10, but "Otter" - almost the same 12, eleven. Again, the retraction monoplane has less drag. No, An-2 is not economical at all.
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 3 December 2020 10: 10
              0
              Lost "lucky only 10, but" Otter "
              A small problem, they are not intended for our frosts, and the airstrips of Siberia and the Far North ...
              1. Reviews
                Reviews 3 December 2020 10: 19
                0
                Quote: 72jora72
                Lost "lucky only 10, but" Otter "
                A small problem, they are not intended for our frosts, and the airstrips of Siberia and the Far North ...

                Who told you this nonsense? Spit in his eyes.
      2. vvvjak
        vvvjak 1 December 2020 12: 39
        +2
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

        Was such, bought in Europe and distilled in the United States. Only there were questions about economy. Yes, and the oil supply system in flight had to be "pinned". Otherwise, everything is correct, the main thing invariably caused a furor among the audience.
        1. Reviews
          Reviews 1 December 2020 12: 43
          +1
          Quote: vvvjak
          the oil supply system in flight had to be "pinned".

          Where is he doing the oil system?
          1. vvvjak
            vvvjak 1 December 2020 12: 47
            +2
            Quote: Avis
            Where is he doing the oil system?

            They took a tube into the cockpit to add oil right in flight.
            1. Reviews
              Reviews 1 December 2020 12: 50
              +3
              Quote: vvvjak
              Quote: Avis
              Where is he doing the oil system?

              They took a tube into the cockpit to add oil right in flight.

              The An-2 has a well balanced oil tank with fuel tanks. Oil will not run out earlier than fuel, unless the engine is crumpled to death.
              1. vvvjak
                vvvjak 1 December 2020 13: 03
                +3
                Quote: Avis
                The An-2 has a well balanced oil tank with fuel tanks.

                So they flew across the Atlantic on it. Therefore, add. the tanks in the cabin also installed an oil supply system.
                1. Reviews
                  Reviews 1 December 2020 13: 29
                  +1
                  Quote: vvvjak
                  Quote: Avis
                  The An-2 has a well balanced oil tank with fuel tanks.

                  So they flew across the Atlantic on it. Therefore, add. the tanks in the cabin also installed an oil supply system.

                  They drove through Iceland and Greenland. The distances are considerable, but for the An-2 in the standard configuration they are quite real: the capacity of the vehicle is 1200l, the flow rate is 120l / h, Vcr. 180 km / h in calm weather.
                  1. vvvjak
                    vvvjak 1 December 2020 14: 16
                    0
                    Quote: Avis
                    They drove through Iceland and Greenland. The distances are considerable, but for the An-2 in the standard configuration they are quite real: the capacity of the vehicle is 1200l, the flow rate is 120l / h, Vcr. 180 km / h in calm weather.

                    I no longer remember how they flew. But even if through Iceland and Greenland, then the flight range is 1000 km. An - 2 will not be enough.
                    1. Reviews
                      Reviews 1 December 2020 14: 20
                      0
                      Quote: vvvjak
                      flight range of 1000 km. An - 2 will not be enough.

                      I have given you all the data for the calculation. but, since you are too lazy to get the calculator, I will save my time and just show you something:
        2. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 1 December 2020 12: 49
          +2
          I don’t say how economical the An-2 is, it’s an airplane, and from the last century! And how much ZIL-157 ate off-road?
          60 liters according to TU, but really 100 off-road.
      3. swnvaleria
        swnvaleria 1 December 2020 14: 48
        +2
        there is a cool movie on YouTube called "on en 2 from europe to america" ​​where a German of Greek origin flew in the usa, dispatchers took him over New York for a helicopter due to low speed and allowed him to fly over the city, a very interesting video.
      4. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 1 December 2020 20: 11
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: Andre___86
        An-2 why ???

        In some TV show, the American was delighted with the AN-2: roomy, unpretentious, economical, easy to operate, etc. etc.

        Recently I watched a story about how the Germans installed an additional gas tank on the An-2 and flew it across the Atlantic to the USA.
        Desperate guys.
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 December 2020 12: 23
      -1
      An 2 in North Korea is used as an attack aircraft, worked on the target with NURs and immediately landing on the head! Lyapota! hi good
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 1 December 2020 13: 05
        +2
        China is testing a drone based on An-2:
    4. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 1 December 2020 12: 54
      0
      This is their idea of ​​the level of our videoconferencing.)
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 1 December 2020 12: 16
    +1
    Well, with the Mi-24 everything is still clear, but why do they need the An-2 ?! request He's not in service as a BE ...
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 1 December 2020 21: 44
      0
      Considering that they want an Mi-24 to pair with him, most likely they looked at their AH (AH-1, AH-64) and decided to buy "the same" our An.
  5. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 1 December 2020 12: 17
    +4
    as stated in the notice to the potential contract, this technique is necessary to familiarize American instructors with their capabilities.

    How old is the Mi-24 and other Soviet weapons in the article? For a long time after the collapse of the Union, they were bought by them for familiarization, and they managed to steal something under the USSR. It’s strange to read about it now.
  6. cniza
    cniza 1 December 2020 12: 24
    +3
    According to the request, the dummies will be used to develop "enemy weapons skills" in US troops at the Fort Benning military base in Georgia.


    And ours study, but it's better not on dummies and our goals are different ...
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 1 December 2020 13: 48
      0
      Hi soldier
      So everyone learns, everyone has their own methodology, but so Schaub was fundamentally different, it's unlikely.
      1. cniza
        cniza 1 December 2020 13: 51
        +1
        Good time! hi

        Uh-huh, only we set a different goal, to be able to repulse the enemy with weapons ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 1 December 2020 13: 57
          +1
          Military doctrines of states dictate EVERYTHING. The conditions for the formation, supply and training of the Armed Forces depend on the tasks that politicians set for them.
          1. cniza
            cniza 1 December 2020 14: 24
            +2
            This is all true, but what is the task associated with the acquisition of a corn plant?
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 1 December 2020 14: 53
              +1
              Not no, it is given to understand, explain, not to everyone.
              1. cniza
                cniza 1 December 2020 15: 13
                +2
                That's all and guessing over this puzzle ...
  7. faiver
    faiver 1 December 2020 12: 28
    0
    Yeah, buying An-2 kind of raises the question of the level of intelligence of buyers bully
    1. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 1 December 2020 21: 47
      +1
      Yeah, they thought it was an attack helicopter. They will spy on the latest technologies there for modernizing their AH-1, maybe they will call it AH-2.
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 December 2020 12: 35
    +2
    Why? "Crocodile" and An-2 no words - excellent devices, but why not Po-2 or Mi-2 or that trenchant I-16? winked To explore the possibilities so to speak.
    1. Free wind
      Free wind 1 December 2020 12: 50
      0
      The I-16 was a very heavy aircraft to control. He was very strict about management. If the car turns around on the road, this does not mean super-maneuverability, it means that it is difficult to drive it.
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 1 December 2020 12: 36
    0
    Really strange, An2 can be bought from us, it costs a lot for the model of those killed throughout the country, according to the shooter to the local state airsoft players. What can they only learn from such models?
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 1 December 2020 13: 09
      +2
      Quote: evgen1221
      What can they only learn from such models?

      Excerpt.
      There is a run-in with tanks, there will be an "fly-by" of the An-2. hi
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 1 December 2020 13: 14
        +2
        Yeah, covering by crawling through the belly of a standing model with fantasizing how it proudly flew over you))))
  10. Alien From
    Alien From 1 December 2020 13: 18
    0
    Money in the morning, chairs in the evening)
  11. iouris
    iouris 1 December 2020 13: 40
    -2
    A special operation is being prepared.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 1 December 2020 15: 48
      +1
      laughing laughing To capture all An-2s remaining on the wing.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 1 December 2020 13: 46
    0
    A helicopter, this is understandable ... but why would they need a "maize"?
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 1 December 2020 14: 28
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      Why do they need a "maize"?

      They are preparing for revenge. :)
  13. Left shot
    Left shot 1 December 2020 13: 49
    -2
    Our enemy is buying products to study how best to destroy us. And our colonial power, as always obsequiously protruding its butts, sells everything ...
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 1 December 2020 15: 50
      -1
      No. It seems that they do not buy from Ukraine. What does "colonial power" have to do with it?
      1. Left shot
        Left shot 1 December 2020 17: 48
        -1
        Is the colony "Rossiyaniya" different from the colony "Ukraine"? Tryndezhom in zombie boxes?
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 1 December 2020 19: 42
          -1
          laughing The difference is that you are a colony in fact, and RUSSIA is a colony in your wet dreams.
          1. Left shot
            Left shot 1 December 2020 23: 00
            -1
            Who are "we? I am personally Russian, living in Russia all my life. By the way, the majority of kremlebotni, including bots in the zomboyaschik, are non-Russians, which is a characteristic feature of the lackeys of the colonial power, killing the country and arranging the genocide of the population, primarily the Russians.
            And all the top functionaries of this colonial (occupation) power in Russia have a residence permit or citizenship (like Goebbels's belch of Sands, for example), their own or their wives - in other countries. Capital and their larvae are not kept in this country. Which is also typical.

            So who are you and us?
            1. Prisoner
              Prisoner 2 December 2020 10: 29
              -1
              winked Come on, don't fuss, "Russian". "Donkey's ears give out."
  14. andr327
    andr327 1 December 2020 16: 18
    +2
    Apparently someone in America began to study the history of the Second World War, and came across our "Night Witches". I learned about the combat use of the Po-2 maize, and then Google showed the AN-2 maize. And so the Americans found out the most terrible secret about the most dangerous Russian plane. smile
    1. Reviews
      Reviews 1 December 2020 16: 37
      +2
      Quote: andr327
      Apparently someone in America began to study the history of the Second World War, and came across our "Night Witches". I learned about the combat use of the Po-2 maize, and then Google showed the AN-2 maize. And so the Americans found out the most terrible secret about the most dangerous Russian plane. smile

      The Yankes themselves faced Po-2s - during the Korean War, Po-2s bombed them at night.
  15. Esaul
    Esaul 1 December 2020 16: 51
    +1
    Probably they want to make a 2th generation fighter based on An-6
  16. vadim dok
    vadim dok 1 December 2020 17: 03
    0
    Forgive me, but what does the AN-2 have to do with the modern Russian army and WEAPON?
  17. opuonmed
    opuonmed 1 December 2020 21: 12
    0
    What are they preparing they bought weapons Shas aviation they are preparing provocation or they will use a small army
  18. Navigator Basov
    Navigator Basov 1 December 2020 21: 31
    +1
    It is necessary in response to launch a story that the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation intends to purchase Zumwalt for scrap.
  19. Kara
    Kara 1 December 2020 22: 32
    +15
    Again they are preparing some dirty trick ...
  20. Interlocutor
    Interlocutor 1 December 2020 22: 58
    +2
    Let more Siberian bears zatar ... The infantry will be portrayed.
  21. cosmonaut
    cosmonaut 2 December 2020 14: 23
    0
    what else, An2 is our most secret stealth. In no case should we sell it. And also the F1 grenade, RPG 7, and AKM. Let them buy magnificent copies from the Chinese)) I have a self-propelled gun lying behind the barn, which I made as a child , I can offer American instructors to develop skills with handling)))) and the replacement grenade is a refractory brick)))