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Scotland's independence will threaten UK defenses

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Scotland has long dreamed of independence. Ever since it was incorporated into the British Empire. But if, sooner or later, she still manages to gain sovereignty, this will be a serious blow to the defenses of London.


Scotland has long played a key role in the United Kingdom's security system. Today, Scotland's military significance to London is not the famous Scottish Guard. These are, for example, numerous naval aviation and other military bases of the British army in Scotland.

The Clyde naval base on the east coast of the Firth of Clyde in the Irish Sea is of prime importance to the British crown. Clyde is considered the main naval base in Scotland, but the role of the object does not end there. It is at the Clyde base that the bulk of the British nuclear deterrent force is located. The naval arsenal, which is also part of the base, contains nuclear warheads, missiles and torpedoes from the British Navy.

At the Clyde base, there are Vanguard-class submarines armed with Trident missiles, Astyut-class submarines, minesweepers - seekers of the 1st anti-mine division, patrol boats of the Faslane Patrol Division, and training ships.

As you can see, from the point of view of naval security, the base in Scotland is irreplaceable for Great Britain. If Scotland gained independence, then London would have to transfer its nuclear naval forces to other facilities. And it is not a fact that Scotland itself would not have requested a base located on its territory and the ships located on it, or at least part of them.


Also located in Scotland are a number of important bases of the Royal Air Force of Great Britain, including Lossiemouth and Luchers. Fighters and electronic reconnaissance aircraft are based there. So at the base of Lossiemouth is located the 617th squadron of the Royal Air Force "Dambreakers", which is armed with Panavia Tornado aircraft.

Given the geographical location of Scotland, it is very important to ensure the protection of British interests in the North Atlantic. The secession of Scotland from the UK will immediately reduce the ability of the British military to control the situation in the region. No matter how Scottish politicians now swear eternal friendship to the British, London is well aware: another independent state is another state, with all the ensuing consequences, including in the form of foreign policy, which may no longer suit the kingdom.

In addition, Scotland, in the event of a possible secession, will be able to claim part of the British fleet and nuclear weapons... Although Scottish political parties now deny the need for the country in the event of its separation of nuclear weapons, but when sovereignty becomes a reality, the position of the Scots may change. Britain, in turn, will not have sufficient leverage to ensure the transfer of the entire fleet and weapons based in Scotland under crown sovereignty.

One way or another, but something will have to be left in Scotland. Therefore, now the British authorities, on the contrary, are increasing their military presence in the region with the aim, firstly, to demonstrate their military power, and secondly, to have an iron argument against granting independence - they say that military bases are located here and we have nowhere to transfer them, and without these bases, the entire European security system in the North Atlantic region will be under threat.
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  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 15: 03
    +2
    Scotland is reaching back to the European Union.
    1. sergo1914
      sergo1914 7 November 2020 15: 19
      +3
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      Scotland is reaching back to the European Union.


      You have a lot of mistakes in your phrase “Russian Federation”.
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 15: 23
        0
        And what does Russia have to do with it ??? Your sarcasm is incomprehensible to me.
      2. Ilya-spb
        Ilya-spb 7 November 2020 15: 40
        +2
        Scotland must be a free and independent country!
        1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
          Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 15: 50
          0
          How did you determine what Scotland needs ??? fellow
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 7 November 2020 16: 13
            +1
            the centuries-old history of the struggle for independence tells you little?)
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 16: 17
              +2
              Now the main reason for wanting to exit Scotland is the arranged Brexit.
          2. Ilya-spb
            Ilya-spb 7 November 2020 16: 14
            +1
            My ancestors lived there.
            1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
              Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 16: 15
              0
              Scotsman ???
              1. Borik
                Borik 7 November 2020 17: 11
                +1
                Scotland has long dreamed of independence.


                So let him continue to dream.
                If they really wanted independence, they could have tried to secede from England.
                1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
                  Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 17: 14
                  -1
                  Let them continue to dream of independence.
        2. DMB_95
          DMB_95 7 November 2020 16: 41
          +3
          Quote: Ilya-spb
          Scotland must be a free and independent country!

          I agree . Now let the Britons and the Scots make a choice - which is more important to them: "freedom and democracy" or the army and the state. Like we were in the early 90s, God forgive me ....
          1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
            Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 16: 49
            +2
            Let them feel the desire for division between the peoples of their country on their own skin.
  2. deniso
    deniso 7 November 2020 15: 10
    +7
    Freedom of Scotland !!! Freedom !!!
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 7 November 2020 15: 21
      +6
      Quote: denis obuckov
      Freedom of Scotland !!! Freedom !!!

      Yes! Lermontov, Barclay de Tolly, Galovey, St. Andrew's flag, Scottish New Year, roast meat, and of course whiskey! It all unites us! yes
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 November 2020 15: 34
        0
        Quote: LIONnvrsk
        roast meat, and of course whiskey! It all unites us!

        Just like moonshine, like whiskey, everything is one.
        1. ANB
          ANB 7 November 2020 16: 11
          +3
          ... Just like moonshine, like whiskey, everything is one

          No no. The raw materials are different, the technology is different. The taste is also different. Well, I like Irish whiskey more. After all, there is a triple distillation.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 November 2020 17: 44
            +2
            Quote: ANB
            Well, I like Irish whiskey more. After all, there is a triple distillation.

            Irish is good if you add aroma to coffee! Well, Irish coffee is generally awful.
            1. ANB
              ANB 7 November 2020 17: 48
              +1
              ... Irish is good if you add aroma to coffee! Well, Irish coffee is generally awful.

              And if the single malt is still 12 years old ...
            2. ANB
              ANB 7 November 2020 18: 37
              +2
              Irritated. I had to make Irish coffee. But now it's very tasty :)
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 7 November 2020 18: 44
                +1
                Quote: ANB
                Irritated. I had to make Irish coffee. But now it's very tasty

                I can irritate myself and others. I also did it, only now there is no Irish at work, I had to add my own production.
  3. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 November 2020 15: 10
    +3
    Not everything is so simple in the Kingdom, where there are many contradictions. As long as the state and its power are strong, as long as Her Majesty reigns, there will be no troubles, but then Scotland, Shetland Islands, Northern Ireland will immediately raise their heads. But wait and see, we will not be seers.
    1. Koval Sergey
      Koval Sergey 7 November 2020 15: 21
      16
      Not everything is so simple in the Kingdom, where there are many contradictions

      In Great Britain, centrifugal forces are present, but so far they cannot cope with the division of the kingdom into parts.
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 15: 46
        +1
        There was no need to arrange Brexit. hi
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 November 2020 18: 46
          0
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          There was no need to arrange Brexit.

          When we got into the EU, we realized there was no need to join. WELL UNDERSTOOD, better late than never.
          1. times
            times 8 November 2020 08: 14
            14
            Quote: tihonmarine
            There was no need to arrange Brexit.

            When we got into the EU, we realized there was no need to join. WELL UNDERSTOOD, better late than never.

            Yes, in hindsight we are all strong ...
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 7 November 2020 15: 42
    0
    Let them keep their headache with them!
  5. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 7 November 2020 15: 47
    +3
    The population is very conservative, does not like change, but knowing the love of freedom of the Scots and Irish, you can see ...))) wink Let's see what good things the EU will promise them))) wink
  6. bandabas
    bandabas 7 November 2020 15: 53
    +2
    Let them sort it out among themselves. And also, in the "appendage" the Irish. And the "midgets" did not go there.
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 7 November 2020 16: 01
      0
      And again the Kingdom of England will appear on the maps of the World, which was abolished after the unification with Scotland to Great Britain.
      1. ANB
        ANB 7 November 2020 16: 13
        0
        ... kingdom of england

        The part of Great Britain without Scotland is somewhat larger than England proper. So it's not a fact.
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 7 November 2020 19: 06
        -2
        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        And again the Kingdom of England will appear on the maps of the World, which was abolished after the unification with Scotland to Great Britain.

        There are still Welsh and Irish people left ... so the United Kingdom (UK), as it was, will remain, only without Scotland ...
  7. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 7 November 2020 16: 06
    +4
    November 7, however, albeit a little off topic, but my congratulations! drinks To your health!
  8. svp67
    svp67 7 November 2020 16: 08
    +2
    Scotland's independence will threaten UK defenses
    And what a possible threat, if Britain is a member of NATO and a possible sovereign Scotland, may well be immediately admitted to NATO, as an exception, since there are plenty of important NATO military facilities on its territory for such a decision.
    It all depends on whether the United States will give it the go-ahead
  9. Doccor18
    Doccor18 7 November 2020 16: 14
    +2
    Scotland, in the event of a possible separation, will be able to lay claim to part of the British fleet and nuclear weapons ...

    Yeah, and part of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and ... maybe even India ...
    An old tale. Catalonia also wants independence .. And in Italy, France, there are many supporters of the creation of new states. And these dreams are hundreds of years old ...
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 7 November 2020 16: 23
    +4
    Scotland has not yet separated, and there are no guarantees that it will separate, and in the article the author is already dividing the fleet. smile
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 7 November 2020 16: 48
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      Scotland has not yet separated, and there is no guarantee that it will separate

      This is how the stone on which the Scottish kings swore an oath will be pulled out from under the English throne, so they will immediately have independence. And without this - nothing.
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 7 November 2020 19: 09
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      Scotland has not yet separated, and there are no guarantees that it will separate, and in the article the author is already dividing the fleet. smile

      Definitely. The Ukrainian Navy, too, when it got 16% of the remnants of the KChF, and where are they now these 16% ...
    3. Lexus
      Lexus 7 November 2020 21: 21
      +2
      Nevertheless, the scots have already taken the "old woman" for the "tomatoes": Clyde (Faslane) and Rosyth. bully
  11. Revival
    Revival 7 November 2020 16: 53
    +2
    Let's start with the fact that in 2014 there was a referendum on independence. Turnout 84%, 55% against independence, 44% for.
    That's how they want, for a long time ...
  12. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 7 November 2020 17: 14
    +1
    Quote: denis obuckov
    Freedom of Scotland !!! Freedom !!!

    Well, Carol was talking about the battle of a unicorn with a lion, like regularly but nothing changes.
    Even if Scotland goes free sailing, even if this happens, the first point will be an unconditional and uncontested lease agreement for these bases for 99 years.

    While there are objective reasons for Scottish independence, it will be very difficult to do so. The British crown is used to acting very cynically, not understanding the means and not stopping at nothing.
  13. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 7 November 2020 17: 23
    0
    Quote: Revival
    Let's start with the fact that in 2014 there was a referendum on independence. Turnout 84%, 55% against independence, 44% for.
    That's how they want, for a long time ...

    Well, we see how the Anglo-Saxons can count on the example of Trump and Biden.
    On the referendum for the independence of Scotland, by the way, there was also some kind of muddy story, you could vote by mail.

    Moreover, the situation with Brexit is different.
    There are two trends in Scotland:
    1. Independence.
    2. Desire to stay in the EU (against Brexit)

    Now this is superimposed on each other in an amazing way.
    You can leave the British Union and enter the EU, as I understand Scotland needs access to the EU market, such as cheese and skirts for men to sell)
  14. faterdom
    faterdom 7 November 2020 17: 32
    +2
    Therefore, it is necessary to develop Scottish identity, publish books "Scotland is not Britain!", Praise Scotch whiskey and the beautiful music of pipers.
    Who defiled the Angles and Saxons with their rude morals, and then also the Normans, who generally came in large numbers on the islands on which the Celts, Picts, Welsh, Albions prospered peacefully ...
    It is necessary to recognize the Kingdom of Scotland as a separate subject of international law - enough to obey an alien queen from the German dynasty.
    Burns and Lermontov are brothers forever! Quentin Dorward instead of Quentin Tarantino!
  15. Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 7 November 2020 17: 36
    0
    It seems to me that if suddenly, God forbid, of course, England will be attacked - Scotland will act as the "fifth column" belay repeat without even receiving sovereignty ... everything is very much neglected there ...
  16. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 7 November 2020 17: 45
    +1
    What the hell is independence? From whom? They live there for themselves (in Europe, and it's not bad enough) with each other and money in a circle .... they eat !!!
  17. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 7 November 2020 18: 01
    -2
    And it is not a fact that Scotland itself would not have requested a base located on its territory and the ships located on it, or at least part of them.

    Of course, she can demand anything, but who will give her ...
  18. Pavel57
    Pavel57 7 November 2020 18: 33
    0
    Is there the strength and will to separate. And blah blah the British are suppressed.
  19. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 7 November 2020 20: 50
    0
    And what for? The referendum passed a long time ago, Scotland in England, why describe empty fantasies?
  20. Revolver
    Revolver 7 November 2020 21: 25
    0
    Well, Russia survived the separation of Ukraine, although not without losses and inconveniences. Moreover, if it were not for the Maidan in 2014, the Crimea would have remained Ukrainian ... until the start of the next Maidan. As well as the LDNR.
  21. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 7 November 2020 22: 00
    0
    For some reason the author did not mention the Scapa Flow base in Scotland. It is true in the islands, but in Scotland.
    It was the main base for the Royal Navy, where convoys were formed during WWII.
  22. Roman1970_1
    Roman1970_1 7 November 2020 23: 08
    0
    Scotland has long dreamed of independence. Ever since it was incorporated into the British Empire.

    Several years ago (2014) a referendum gave an answer to the desire for independence.
    Moreover, London agreed to it and guaranteed the fulfillment of the wishes of the people on its result (referendum), on condition that they no longer return to this issue.
    But the people wanted to remain part of Great Britain.
    So there's nothing to speculate about
  23. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 8 November 2020 00: 29
    +1
    Erin Go Bra and Alpa Ke Prax!
  24. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 8 November 2020 01: 58
    0
    Quote: Ilya-spb
    Scotland must be a free and independent country!

    It is necessary to help, as Zhirinovsky once suggested, to the liberating patriots from the IRA.

    Explanation:
    when the British government screamed about the violation of human rights (Chechens) in Chechnya (the first company), bashfully avoiding condemnation of the genocide of the Russian people.
    Wolfych, offered to help the Irish gain independence from the damned British.
    The aid was to consist primarily of supplying arms to the brothers from the IRA.
    Unfortunately, at that time the always drunk Boris Yeltsin did not listen to Zhirinovsky's words.
    But the Chechens themselves got even for Zhirinovsky. They happily beheaded four Britons, who, under the guise of cellular telecom operators, were collecting God knows what data on the territory of Chechnya.
  25. Turanov
    Turanov 8 November 2020 10: 49
    -2
    We need to help the proud Scottish people in the fight against the Naglo-Saxons!
    And then a direct feeling of solidarity woke up in my soul .. bully
  26. raif
    raif 8 November 2020 11: 52
    0
    Scotland will be given a couple of dozen smaller ships, 25 not the newest aircraft - that's all.
    The British will retain nuclear weapons, the Picts will not even lay claim to them - so they will be released faster.
    the bases will be under British control - just like in Cyprus.
    here, in fact, the answers are not unclear why the printed article.
  27. Radikal
    Radikal 8 November 2020 14: 01
    +1
    Basically, I treat the publications of the author with interest and respect, at the same time I want to ask - why should we be worried about British-Scottish troubles when there are more topical topics concerning the foreign and domestic policy of the Russian Federation? winked
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 November 2020 20: 07
      0
      Because there are site visitors who are interested in the domestic and foreign policies of foreign countries.
  28. Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 8 November 2020 20: 11
    0
    And now it seems that the population and authorities of the Shetland Islands are beginning to think about secession from Scotland and direct entry into Great Britain. In this case, Scotland will lose most of the hydrocarbon deposits that the Scottish separatists are counting on.
  29. certero
    certero 9 November 2020 07: 53
    0
    Although I am not bloodthirsty, I would love to see the collapse of Great Britain. To make them feel the hard way