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Large-scale modernization awaits F-35 aircraft: list of updates presented to Congress

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Lockheed Martin continues to update the F-35. This is written by military expert Steve Trimble, specializing in aviation subject.


How to upgrade the F-35


As you know, the list of potential buyers of military aircraft is constantly growing. Sales are stimulated by the purchase price for one aircraft and the cost of one hour of flight, equal to or slightly higher than the cost of a fourth-generation fighter. At the same time, according to Trimble, the recently modernized F-35 aircraft can boast much more computing power than the previous version of the aircraft.

Upgraded F-35s also come with many new options. weaponsincluding the ability to carry 6 advanced medium-range air-to-air missiles Lockheed Martin AIM-260 or Raytheon AIM-120, the ability to strike at sea targets with strike missiles, the ability to use new long-range strike missiles, including, in run, and hypersonic cruise missiles. Thus, the F-35s, which will roll off the Lockheed assembly line in 2030, will receive enhanced combat capabilities.

Steve Trimble emphasizes that in modern conditions the role of the F-35 aircraft is evolving in comparison with standard missions of shock and counter-terrorism nature. The army and navy use F-35 equipment to shoot down enemy missiles. The decentralized command and control system of the air force uses the computing power of the F-35 aircraft, data from sensors and communications to organize large-scale attacks in all directions.

A decade of maximum modernization


The upcoming decade 2020-2030 will be the period of maximum modernization of F-35 aircraft. Indeed, ten years ago, the aircraft is still in a state of testing, and today Lockheed Corporation has delivered more than 500 F-35 aircraft to nine countries of the world, three more countries have signed applications for increased supplies. The cost of an airplane’s flight will also fall already in shipments, the shipments of which are expected in 2022.


Meanwhile, the F-35 Joint Program Office (JPO) has identified the first 66 hardware and software updates. They are listed in the “Subsequent Upgrade of Block 4” section of the report to the U.S. Congress in May 2019. At the same time, the first 8 updates were to be implemented in practice in 2019, but due to unforeseen complications, only one of the updates was released in a timely manner - an automatic system to prevent collisions with the ground. Other updates slowed down due to interruptions in the supply of equipment.

Lockheed plans to complete the development of 30P5 software in the third quarter of this year. This will be followed by the development of 30P6 in the first quarter of 2021 and 30P7 in the third quarter of 2021. The agile development method serves to reduce the delay caused by the release of a large batch of incorrect software.

The next significant step towards software upgrades will be made in 2023. Thanks to the technical update. including a new integrated core processor, an airplane memory system and a panoramic cockpit, a display system, detection capabilities will increase significantly, especially for the BAE Systems ASQ-239 electronic warfare system.

If the current aircraft modernization schedule is maintained, the TR-3 and Block 4.2 updates arriving at Lot 15 will include more than improved computing power. Lockheed is modifying the internal weapon compartment to include a sidekick upgrade that increases the unloading of the Raytheon AIM-120 missile by 50% to six missiles. When the Lockheed AIM-260 becomes available, the same loading will be possible with a rocket having the same length as the AIM-120, but with a significantly longer range.


Three scenarios for the modernization of the F-35 aircraft


Summing up his article, Steve Trimble offers three scenarios for the further development of events in the field of modernization of the F-35 aircraft. The first, optimistic, implies that after a brief stagnation, global defense spending will resume again and Lockheed will deliver a total of 4000 F-35 aircraft. Accordingly, the update program will be completed without delay.

The neutral scenario stipulates that defense spending will remain unchanged until 2040, which will increase pressure on modernization programs and lead to delays and cost overruns. But such a scenario, in the end, will not affect the purchase of aircraft.

Finally, the pessimistic scenario suggests that defense spending will enter a phase of long-term reduction, which will lead to lower purchases and significant delays in the modernization of the aircraft, which, in turn, will lead to cost overruns and, again, to further reduce the budget .
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  1. figwam
    figwam 20 July 2020 12: 18 New
    0
    Constant upgrades that customers will endlessly pay.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 20 July 2020 12: 31 New
      +1
      I wonder which American program is the most profitable for the military-industrial complex - F35, Zumvalt or LCS?
      1. 5-9
        5-9 20 July 2020 16: 47 New
        0
        AVL-1 or FCS ... The cruiser with Comanche is also nothing .. The most profitable one is where you don’t need to put anything into the troops, enough cartoons, prototypes and more, more laudatory statues ...
      2. Alf
        Alf 20 July 2020 18: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: dzvero
        I wonder which American program is the most profitable for the military-industrial complex - F35, Zumvalt or LCS?

        The Soviet and Russian military threat, no matter what.
      3. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 20 July 2020 20: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: dzvero
        I wonder which American program is the most profitable for the military-industrial complex - F35, Zumvalt or LCS?

        The Americans will print as much money as necessary. By the way, Su has also been modernized several times, like other aircraft. In general, 10 years is a decent time for an aircraft.
  2. NIKN
    NIKN 20 July 2020 12: 19 New
    0
    The decentralized command and control system of the air force uses the computing power of F-35 aircraft

    Straight server with wings. Only Windows should not be installed. smile
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 20 July 2020 13: 06 New
      +5
      And there is. When the F-16 appeared, the aces swore: "This is not an airplane, but a computer
      with wings. Doesn't let the pilot do anything ... am "
      Further it gets worse. The F-35 is already a server with wings. Concept: the pilot must
      engage in weapons and communication with the combat environment. And the computer is driving the plane.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 July 2020 13: 40 New
        +2
        Well, you already forgot Russian humor. You take everything seriously. Well, we have such a character. The Russian soldier will not offend Israel, half our people. Fly on the F 35 fly to health. We have something to answer the United States with their F 35 . Better worry about protecting the gas Yamal off the coast of Israel. Uncle Sam loses his mind at the words gas and oil. Good luck!
    2. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 20 July 2020 13: 08 New
      +2
      Judging by the number of updates, it is there that it stands. laughing
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 20 July 2020 12: 32 New
    -3
    With any body kits, in any version this is a 4+ generation aircraft! Electronics is a good thing, but this will not make the stealth-coating more reliable, the speed will remain subsonic, the dessensualization of the guns, from which the guns shoot forever, the target is not eliminated, and at the first the inclusion of the radar, this misunderstanding of the aircraft will become an easy target even in the banana republics. ..
    1. 5-9
      5-9 20 July 2020 16: 49 New
      -2
      A bunch of minuses to you and not a single objection in essence .... Someone in Haifa and Zhytomyr burns up ..
      1. Dimka75
        Dimka75 20 July 2020 17: 09 New
        +2
        I’m not from Zhytomyr and not from Haifa, but the word "rassenhranizatsiya" burned out for me :-) :-)
        I’ll just keep silent about the banana
        And for the "propea" and "tingling," I even pinched
      2. mvg
        mvg 20 July 2020 21: 23 New
        +3
        and not a single objection on the merits.

        There are objections, but in this form they are banned .. Better, like a parrot, from an anecdote: Man, well, you know? There were few word norms left by the end of the day. The limit has been reached.
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 20 July 2020 20: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      desensitization of guns, from behind which the cannons shoot forever more than the target is not eliminated,

      Forget about the guns in today's reality
  4. VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 20 July 2020 12: 33 New
    -6
    We all the same see one crap! Of course we will shoot down the key. Money down the drain!
  5. barin
    barin 20 July 2020 12: 39 New
    23
    Despite the initial dampness, the Penguin is becoming more and more dangerous.
    1. JonnyT
      JonnyT 20 July 2020 16: 05 New
      0
      How everyone laughed at him at first, saying that the penguin is not a flying bird. And now he is becoming a universal carrier of weapons.
      Over time, both engines and onboard PCs and stealth coverage will be brought to a high level of reliability.
      Although who knows, we can break the adversary then
    2. 5-9
      5-9 20 July 2020 16: 51 New
      -1
      No .... unless for their pilots only .... Trucks made years after 2024 can be really dangerous ... Current half-hour useless trash
      1. Alf
        Alf 20 July 2020 18: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: 5-9
        Current Poltyschi useless trash

        Why useless? How many green pennies the company earned from the treasury, but how many of the allies squeezed ...
        The famous phrase from Robocop - Ten years of production, twenty-five years of production of spare parts, but who cares that it does not work.
        1. 5-9
          5-9 20 July 2020 18: 47 New
          0
          If the stars are lit, then someone needs it ...
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 20 July 2020 12: 51 New
    +4
    Serial production, a large number of products, stimulates the process of modernization, improvement of the performance characteristics of the product.
    It is difficult to say how much the product went, flew, the methods of selling it were very peculiar ... but, anyway, there is a lot of it and this is already a real factor that must be taken into account by everyone.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 20 July 2020 14: 12 New
      -3
      If China imposes sanctions against Lockheed Martin, the cost will increase, and all budgets will fail.
      And then there's the Covid epidemic. In an epidemic, military budgets will undoubtedly be cut.
      Without even announcing it, but simply not financing the expense items.
      Turkey’s exclusion from parts manufacturing alone led to almost 10% higher prices for each F-35. hi
      https://lenta.ru/news/2020/07/17/f35/
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 July 2020 14: 38 New
        0
        This is, as it were, force majeure reasons, although, there and besides, there is something to lay claim to.
        But all the same, the plane is getting widespread, the striped authorities will certainly contribute to this.
        There is a topic that some have conceived their own alternative to dazzle ... let's see how they do it.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 20 July 2020 16: 24 New
          -4
          Quote: rocket757
          It’s like force majeure reasons


          As if none of this had happened.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 20 July 2020 16: 29 New
            0
            Look at how much the United States is spending and is planning to spend (but by no means agree on the 4th day) Europe to restart the economy. wink
            Where will they get these hundreds and hundreds of billions from a serious drop in the GDP of all countries that introduced quarantine varieties? hi
            But the issue of the epidemic is not yet closed by the word “completely”.
            1. 5-9
              5-9 20 July 2020 16: 54 New
              -1
              Which billions? It's about 4 or 6 trules in the USA, and 2 have already been poured ... But only printed money, if they were put into the real economy, would have been called hyper 10 years ago ... Negroes and rednecks will buy hawks and Chinese sneakers a bit, Tesla will 100..150 lard cost ... But the problems remain
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 20 July 2020 16: 56 New
                0
                Do not give a little understate? wink
                What if they decide to save?
                The Fed is already squeezing a little.
                Tampa ratings allow.
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 20 July 2020 17: 22 New
              +1
              Most economies are heavily overloaded with virtual money, and like weights on their feet, their debts hang!
              Someone expects them to be able to act very reasonably ??? They will be saved as they can, but they have not so many options, if you look.
              GEYROPA will in no way divide a small (two hundred billion) trillion!
              In general, there is something to see and very much to be surprised !!!
              About minke whales, I don’t want to say sales, because for a long time it’s been impossible to evaluate what is happening with them!
              1. Alex777
                Alex777 20 July 2020 17: 33 New
                +1
                Here I am that of the 3 scenarios for the development of the situation according to F-35:
                the first, about the growth of military spending, IMHO, is generally unrealistic,
                the second, about maintaining military spending - is unlikely,
                the third one no longer seems so pessimistic.
                And all this without China. Therefore, Pompeo bleated about the hope that China would not flatten Lockheed Martin.
                The question is, what are the Chinese taxiing out for themselves now in return?
                And can Trump go as far as the Chinese want it? hi
      2. Grazdanin
        Grazdanin 20 July 2020 16: 23 New
        -3
        Quote: Alex777
        Turkey’s exclusion from parts manufacturing alone led to almost 10% higher prices for each F-35.

        When were they expelled?
        Quote: Alex777
        If China imposes sanctions against Lockheed Martin, the cost will increase

        Why? Are other suppliers much more expensive? How many rare earth metals do you need to produce F35?
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 20 July 2020 16: 33 New
          0
          Quote: Alex777
          Turkey’s exclusion from parts manufacturing alone led to almost 10% higher prices for each F-35.

          When were they expelled?

          Is it that you are kidding or really not in the know?
          Google to help you. wink
          1. Grazdanin
            Grazdanin 20 July 2020 16: 36 New
            -2
            Well, give a link with information that Turkey excluded. What senators proposed it was excluded, what was not expelled.
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              1. Grazdanin
                Grazdanin 20 July 2020 17: 10 New
                -2
                Here is the news to which they refer, Turkey will produce spare parts for the F35 at least until the end of the year, it is not clear how the possible complete exclusion of Turkey from the suppliers of parts will affect, some parts except for Turkey cannot be produced by anyone.
                https://www.defensenews.com/air/2020/05/12/some-f-35-suppliers-are-having-trouble-delivering-parts-on-schedule-and-turkeys-departure-could-make-that-worse/

                The Pentagon has also taken action to begin stripping Turkish industry from the aircraft's supply chain, a process that involves finding new companies to make 1,005 parts, some of which are sole-sourced by Turkish companies.

                Ellen Lord, the Pentagon's undersecretary for acquisition and sustainment, had hoped to stop contracting with Turkish suppliers by March 2020, but in January she said that some contracts would extend through the year, according to Defense One.
        2. Alf
          Alf 20 July 2020 18: 46 New
          +2
          Quote: Grazdanin
          How many rare earth metals do you need to produce F35?

          Does electronics consist of cast iron or steel 10? And the turbine blades?
      3. Alf
        Alf 20 July 2020 18: 45 New
        +1
        Quote: Alex777
        With an epidemic, military budgets will surely cut.

        Something in the Fed is working fine ...
  7. bar
    bar 20 July 2020 12: 52 New
    -1
    As you know, the list of potential buyers of military aircraft is constantly growing.

    Potential is great. But, as they say in Odessa, "so what to buy?"

    Sales are stimulated by the purchase price per aircraft and the cost of one flight hour equal or slightly higher than the cost of the fourth generation fighter.

    Somewhere I came across that the cost of an hour of flight of this wunderwafe is about 35 thousand dollars without shielding kerosene. Why do they need the 4th generation to fly?

    At the same time, according to Trimble, the recently upgraded F-35 aircraft boast much more computing power than the previous version of the air machine.

    Great, what. Right now, all new gadgets "boast much more computing power," from cheap phones to cars. There will be a kind of supercomputer with wings. Only the flight performance is unlikely to affect. Computing power of agility and supersonic is unlikely to add.
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 20 July 2020 13: 10 New
      -7
      Quote: bar
      Somewhere I came across that the cost of an hour of flight of this wunderwafe is about 35 thousand dollars without shielding kerosene. Why do they need the 4th generation to fly?

      Su 35 hour flight in the region of $ 40
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 July 2020 13: 42 New
        0
        Wrong 100 500 thousand dollars and all from your pocket.
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 20 July 2020 14: 22 New
        0
        Quote: Grazdanin
        Su 35 hour flight in the region of $ 40

        You can see a detailed calculation somewhere, or is it yours - "about-from-the-lamp"?
    2. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 20 July 2020 13: 36 New
      -3
      Flight hour price statistics from 2016. https://www.statista.com/chart/5518/the-cost-of-operating-americas-fighter-planes/
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 July 2020 14: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: Grazdanin
        Flight hour price statistics from 2016

        It goes against your own sources. For he who claimed that
        Quote: Grazdanin
        Su 35 hour flight in the region of $ 40

        wrote about it like this
        So one hour of flight of our Su-35 is 40 US dollars.
        The F-22 will cost 60 US dollars per hour, and the newest F-000 will cost 35 dollars.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 20 July 2020 14: 34 New
          -3
          There is a reliable source for US aircraft, I cited it, if you have a different source for our aircraft, I will be glad to see it with different numbers.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 July 2020 14: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: Grazdanin
            There is a reliable source for US aircraft, I brought it

            No, they didn’t. Because there are different concepts of the cost of an hour of flight. These can be operating costs, or they can be full, including the cost of the aircraft itself and the costs of its development. Therefore, here is another reliable source for you. laughing

            And against this background (Raptor - 58 thousand dollars, F35 - 67 thousand dollars, yes, the Su-35 has 40 thousand :))) And even then, probably in export performance
            1. Grazdanin
              Grazdanin 20 July 2020 16: 07 New
              -3
              The price of $ 40 came from Chinese sources, the PLA air forces have in their composition Su 000, respectively, can evaluate the hour of flight of this aircraft. If there are other sources I will be glad to see. They do not have access to modern aircraft manufactured in the USA.
              I cited the official statistics from the US Department of Defense. On the aircraft that are in their arsenal.
              Once again links:
              https://www.statista.com/chart/5518/the-cost-of-operating-americas-fighter-planes/
              https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2016/08/16/the-hourly-cost-of-operating-the-u-s-militarys-fighter-fleet-infographic/#24b9bbdf35c9
              1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                Andrei from Chelyabinsk 20 July 2020 18: 59 New
                +3
                Quote: Grazdanin
                The price of $ 40 came from Chinese sources, the PLA air forces have in their composition Su 000, respectively, can evaluate the hour of flight of this aircraft.

                Yeah. Bought at the EXPORT price, with the EXPORT service cost.
                Quote: Grazdanin
                Once again links:

                Amused from the heart. Write
                Quote: Grazdanin
                I gave the official statistics of the US Department of Defense

                And give ... An article by Niall McCartney, a journalist. Already in two sources :)))))
                1. Grazdanin
                  Grazdanin 20 July 2020 19: 19 New
                  -4
                  Dasha, something is highlighted in blue in the article, which means that this is a reference. If you click on it you go to the site, official, chief controller. Let's help Dasha the Ranger find the link. And here she is:
                  https://comptroller.defense.gov/Financial-Management/Reports/rates2016/
                  Dasha, do you still need help?
                  1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 July 2020 19: 03 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Grazdanin
                    Dasha, in the article something is highlighted in blue, it means that this is a reference.

                    Oh, what a gentle mental organization we have. Just don't touch us with your foot or shovel laughing
                    Quote: Grazdanin
                    If you click on it, you go to the site, the official, the chief controller.

                    Yeah. And what do we see there?
                    The following hourly rates for fixed wing aircraft are effective October 1, 2015, and are to be used when the applicable aircraft are provided on a reimbursable basis. Excluded are fixed wing aircraft provided by the Defense Working Capital Fund, United States Transportation Command (TRANSCOM). Rates for those aircraft are located at http://www.transcom.mil/rates/fy16Rates/
                    That is, we are talking about hourly rates in cases where the aircraft is provided on a reimbursable basis. In McCartney's article, we read
                    According to Department of Defense data, the Air Force & # 039; s two newest fighters are extremely expensive to operate.
                    I mean
                    The hourly operating costs of the F-22A and F-35A are $ 33 and $ 538, respectively.
                    You don't see the difference between operating expenses and the provision of an aircraft "for rent", right?
                    Quote: Grazdanin
                    Dasha, do you still need help?

                    Well help :)))))
    3. Alex777
      Alex777 20 July 2020 16: 48 New
      0
      Somewhere it came across that the cost of an hour of flight of this prodigy is about 35 thousand bucks without shield kerosene

      https://lenta.ru/news/2020/02/01/f35/
      Reliability is not yet understood. hi
  8. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 20 July 2020 13: 02 New
    0
    F-35 is waiting for a large-scale modernization: Congress presented a list of updates
    This is what frenzied democracy leads to. Congress fool considering a list of improvements, and signed by the military. repeat
    Common sense: Money comes from Congress, and the justification for the need for improvements from the military.
  9. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 July 2020 13: 04 New
    0
    They will soon pump so much software into it that it won't take off from its weight.
  10. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 20 July 2020 13: 11 New
    -5
    The F-35 aircraft is undergoing a large-scale modernization:

    Is it worth the "greatest and strongest" army in the world to strain so hard? Immediately some yelled that no F-35 or F-22 is equal in any army (unless the F-35i wassat )
    Syromyatina ... They created what they could, but hotzza money ...
  11. Prisoner
    Prisoner 20 July 2020 13: 17 New
    0
    Do you still hope that this device will start flying? laughing
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  13. wet.sar
    wet.sar 20 July 2020 13: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: Captive
    Do you still hope that this device will start flying? laughing

    He has been flying for 10 years and in sufficient quantities laughing
  14. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 20 July 2020 13: 36 New
    +1
    Those interested can read the whole article.
    Lengthy F-35 Upgrade List To Transform Strike Fighter's Future Role
    Steve Trimble July 20, 2020
    Long List of F-35 Upgrades For Strike Fighter Future Role Transformation
    Steve Trimble July 20, 2020
    https://aviationweek.com/ad-week/lengthy-f-35-upgrade-list-transform-strike-fighters-future-role
    1. Grazdanin
      Grazdanin 20 July 2020 13: 40 New
      -1
      Thank. It’s bad that in the news itself the link to the source is not used.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 20 July 2020 13: 57 New
        0
        Quote: Grazdanin
        Thank. It’s bad that in the news itself the link to the source is not used.

        You are welcome. I also wrote about this because I saw that there are bloopers, I began to look for the original.
        1. Grazdanin
          Grazdanin 20 July 2020 17: 30 New
          -2
          Half of the information will be retold with errors, half simply will not be told.
  15. Operator
    Operator 20 July 2020 13: 56 New
    -4
    Modernization of the "Penguin", in all its modifications has not yet been accepted for combat duty - of course, a powerful solution laughing

    Improving (the next) onboard equipment is a useful thing, but what about the replacement of the stealth coating that peels off after the Penguin reaches supersonic speed? And what about the invisibility of the "shock" F-35, forced to carry all the ammunition to work on ground or surface targets on the external sling due to the scanty volume of internal weapons bays? Or what about the lack of super-maneuverability of the fat "Penguin" for evading explosive missiles at long range and fighting the Su-35 at close range?

    The only thing that becomes clear is that all the overseas buyers of the Penguin got into big money laughing
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 20 July 2020 14: 37 New
      -1
      Quote: Operator
      not yet accepted for combat duty

      belay Where did you read that? Give us ALL to read.
      1. 5-9
        5-9 20 July 2020 16: 58 New
        0
        Is Jewish electrical internet different from American and Russian? In these two information in bulk ... Including GAO reports ...
    2. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 20 July 2020 20: 10 New
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      and fighting the Su-35 at close range?

      Who's going to get you at close range?
      1. Operator
        Operator 20 July 2020 20: 28 New
        -1
        Naturally - after all, the Su-35s flip the shabby "Penguins" even at a long distance using the RVV-BD, the range of which is 1,5 times the range of the AIM-120 of the most modern modification.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 21 July 2020 08: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Operator
          Naturally - after all, the Su-35s flip the shabby "Penguins" even at a long distance using the RVV-BD, the range of which is 1,5 times the range of the AIM-120 of the most modern modification.

          So you will first find them, and then you will find yourself in the conditions of electronic warfare, and only then you will sing praises
          1. Operator
            Operator 21 July 2020 10: 52 New
            -2
            And what is the problem to find a "Penguin" with a peeling stealth coating, air-to-ground ammunition on an external sling, and even including its electronic warfare? laughing
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 21 July 2020 12: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Operator
              And what is the problem to find a "Penguin" with a peeling stealth coating, air-to-ground ammunition on an external sling, and even including its electronic warfare? laughing

              Well, firstly, you say that the coating is damaged during supersonic, the aircraft may well patrol at subsonic speed. Secondly, our Israeli friends can explain how to turn on and off electronic warfare, they have a wealth of experience. Yes, and electronic warfare may not be on the F-35 itself.
              1. Operator
                Operator 21 July 2020 12: 50 New
                -3
                Loitering on subsonic - like An-2? laughing

                I'm not interested in the opinion of your Israeli friends, who were bred like suckers to buy "Penguins".
                1. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 21 July 2020 14: 03 New
                  0
                  Quote: Operator
                  Loitering on subsonic - like An-2? laughing

                  I'm not interested in the opinion of your Israeli friends, who were bred like suckers to buy "Penguins".

                  You I see a great aviation specialist
  16. zwlad
    zwlad 20 July 2020 13: 58 New
    +1
    4000 pieces. that's what I understand a series! And no matter what they are still raw, in the future they will finish it. As barmaley and Papuans it will quite suit itself. But Lockheed gets $ now.
  17. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 20 July 2020 13: 59 New
    -4
    , I’m smiling with stupid mattresses))) the airplane has not really entered the arsenal, but a major modernization is already underway, then another, then another. In general, “Lockheed” will milk suckers to infinity
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 20 July 2020 14: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: TermNachTER
      , I smile from stupid mattress covers))) the airplane has not really entered service, but a major modernization is already being undertaken

      Why stupid? You yourself answered
      Quote: TermNachTER
      Lockheed will milk suckers forever

      good good good
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 21 July 2020 10: 54 New
        0
        Well, so they consider themselves smart))) maybe they were deceived?))))
  18. yfast
    yfast 20 July 2020 14: 00 New
    0
    So they will recall aircraft for modernization? Where the old ones will go, because software will not update everything.
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 20 July 2020 14: 37 New
      -1
      So they will be sent for repairs regularly in order to maintain combat effectiveness, and they will be modernized during the repair.
  19. Whirlwind
    Whirlwind 20 July 2020 14: 14 New
    0
    The main thing is not to forget to write in Russian on the wings, on the fuselage and on the tail, that it is INVISIBLE .. !!!
  20. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 July 2020 16: 29 New
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    Strongly, they didn’t have time to upgrade already, how much will it cost?
  21. 5-9
    5-9 20 July 2020 16: 45 New
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    Well, what am I constantly writing about? The plane is far from the final technical appearance ... How many unfinished major versions does it have now? 4 like ... and all different ... and all unfinished ... there, something good is promised between 2024 and 2030 ...
    We do not need such a coat for the Su-57 ...
  22. shadow
    shadow 20 July 2020 16: 57 New
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    Some kind of order. We are that, we are this, but nothing in the case. 966 faults of which 111 are significant. Where are their fixes? Only new problems are added with this fufik. After 10 years, we’ll come up with something, but for now, fly on what is and don’t pick.
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  24. zenion
    zenion 20 July 2020 17: 21 New
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    After modernization, this dragonfly will be able to fly in any direction, and even against the wind, not a strong wind. There are rumors that he will be able to fly even backwards, you just need to throw the steering wheel in the cockpit. Like the gun of that guy whose name was Fredi, his gun could shoot forward and backward, it was only necessary to throw a button and remember the position.
  25. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 20 July 2020 18: 50 New
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    Lockheed Martin continues to update the F-35.

    This is if China does not spoil all raspberries.
    https://runews24.ru/politics/17/07/2020/9d6174748a6ec9d8eaa22c1da80fc425