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In the United States, the final companies of the helicopter program of the future FARA

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Two companies - Bell and Sikorsky - were on the final list for the development of new-generation helicopters in the United States. According to the latest information, companies are required to submit their prototypes of rotorcraft by 2023. We are talking about the projects of the Bell 360 Invictus and Sikorsky Raider X.

The companies were selected on March 25 as part of the “intelligence aviation of the future ”, bearing the abbreviation FARA in the USA.

According to this program, in the next 7-8 years, an aircraft should appear in the United States to replace the obsolete multi-purpose helicopter Bell OH-58D Kiowa Warrior. For the first time this helicopter, intended primarily for reconnaissance, took off in the distant 1962. Now, according to the US military command, the characteristics of the Bell OH-58D Kiowa Warrior do not meet modern requirements.

The new program is divided into three main stages. At the first stage, companies must decide on the design design, at the second stage, they must work out detailed design and proceed to production, the third stage is the serial production of helicopters.

The Bell and Sikorsky companies, which became the finalists of the FARA contest, received an impressive sum of US $ 1,64 billion from the US military budget for the design, of which 940 million was allocated to Sikorsky. After the prototypes are presented to the customer, the latter will determine which option is best suited for the American army.

US Assistant Secretary of Intelligence and Logistics Bruce Jett:

Future aerial reconnaissance is a priority in modernizing army aviation. They will enable our units to have a wider range of tactical, operational and strategic capabilities. These reconnaissance assets must have high speed, survivability, and the ability to perform operations longer.

At the same time, it is noted that the stealth technology is not a priority for the implementation of the future reconnaissance helicopter program.

Sikorsky Raider X is a slightly larger version of the S-97 Raider. In particular, internal compartments to accommodate increased weapons. The helicopter will be equipped with an additional 20 mm cannon in the front. The aircraft has a three-screw design, which, as noted by the developers, allows for an increase in speed parameters and maneuverability.

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  1. Cowbra
    Cowbra 29 March 2020 10: 06 New
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    laughing
    https://alex-leshy.livejournal.com/1460751.html
    The US Marine Corps apparently lost the war with the US Army

    And all why - the richest country in the world has become trite to lack money. The fleet takes half of the military budget. Another third are in the Air Force. The army and marines are forced to compete for the remaining crumbs. And the Marines "did not fit into the market."
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 March 2020 13: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Cowbra
      The US Marine Corps apparently lost the war with the US Army

      By and large, the news here is much more important than the next showdown over "who to cut"

      Here on the site there are a lot of comments on the topic "strike drone = wunderwaffe" and "when will Russia finally get drone UAVs".
      And here is such an affront ...
      Reconnaissance helicopter with strike functions. What some have long declared a hopelessly outdated concept.
  2. Andrey Mikhaylov
    Andrey Mikhaylov 29 March 2020 10: 07 New
    +3
    2. Light reconnaissance and attack helicopter RAH-66 "Comanche"
    MKA1222gUVhWRAmyAvUnZ067VYKH87SGHtYJ5Tlj

    Costs - 7,9 billion dollars.

    A complete analysis of the entire weapon system project was completed in June of 2003 and was to be accompanied by the delivery of 78 helicopters in three separate batches to 2007.

    In February, the US Army 2004 canceled further research, development, and refused to buy Comanche RAH-66. The reason for the refusal was called non-compliance with the requirements of changing operational situations.

    Congress was proposed an amendment to the 2005 budget proposal, which would allow the army to close the Comanche program and reallocate funds to restructure army aviation programs.

    https://topwar.ru/5107-vertolet-ataki-i-razvedki-comanche-rah-66.html,В Сша это модно громкие программы,а потом их закрывать,Все деньги получили и разделили.
    1. SovAr238A
      SovAr238A 29 March 2020 16: 25 New
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      Quote: Andrey Mikhaylov
      In the United States, it is fashionable to have high-profile programs, and then close them. All money has been received and shared.

      Except Comanche - what other high-profile programs do you know?
      I'll try to find out your horizons ...
      1. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 20: 40 New
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        I can offer you to analyze the chronicle of projects of hypersonic products - you will discover a lot of new things for yourself ..
      2. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 20: 43 New
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        Well, the program of the super destroyer "Zamvolt" is extremely characteristic.
      3. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 20: 45 New
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        Your sarcasm, I would say - is extremely unlucky ... Rather, your horizons show - by no means wide.
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 30 March 2020 19: 53 New
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          Quote: Michael2019
          Your sarcasm, I would say - is extremely unlucky ... Rather, your horizons show - by no means wide.

          In addition to Zamvolt still give?

          I now know 5 more.
          How much do you type ...
          What is your horizons?
  3. Andrey Mikhaylov
    Andrey Mikhaylov 29 March 2020 10: 08 New
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    9) Presidential helicopter VH-71
    MKA1222gUVhWRAmyAvUnZz4YdT4kTzb4UIyeWQa6

    Costs - 3,7 billion dollars.

    May 15 (2009) in the United States was almost completely suspended work on the project of the new presidential helicopter VH-71 Kestrel, which was supposed to replace the Sikorsky VH-3D and VH-60N machines used as "board number one". In recent years, the cost of the project, initiated by the former head of the White House, George W. Bush, has increased to the point of obscenity, even by American standards. Barack Obama turned out to be more modest than his predecessor. After announcing the cuts in expensive Pentagon rearmament programs, the first black head of state decided to abandon his own helicopter.

    The new-generation helicopter VH-71, which, apparently, was never destined to enter the service of the US leadership, can only be called American with a stretch. The machine manufacturer is Lockheed Martin, but the project itself is based on the Italian helicopter AW101 developed by AgustaWestland. It is mainly used for military purposes by the armed forces of some countries, but it is also used, inter alia, by civilian organizations.

    https://vpk.name/news/28093_prezident_bez_vertoleta.html
    1. Oleg83
      Oleg83 29 March 2020 12: 22 New
      +1
      New presidential helicopter Sikorsky VH-92 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_VH-92), created on the basis of Sikorsky S-92 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-92)
      The previous program was canceled just because the base helicopter there was not an American
    2. gridasov
      gridasov 29 March 2020 12: 25 New
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      The president really should take care of his life more than others. Therefore, the priority aspect is guaranteed flight safety. But the screws are basically weak energy devices. Therefore, only new propellers can guarantee a safe flight.
      1. Tuzik
        Tuzik 29 March 2020 12: 40 New
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        Quote: gridasov
        Therefore, only new propellers can guarantee a safe flight.

        What are your movers? Just don't say new laughing
        How to imagine them in your mind?
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 29 March 2020 13: 05 New
          +1
          Very simple ! change the physical process on the blades of the propeller, propeller, turbine to the exact opposite. Sorry, but I think you won’t succeed. Because you need to think in complex and algorithmically related terms that describe the process, and not some particular ones.
          1. Tuzik
            Tuzik 29 March 2020 13: 12 New
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            Okay I'll try to live to see it.
            1. gridasov
              gridasov 29 March 2020 13: 38 New
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              Try to imagine just static devices in the form of any battery and then see the electrolysis process, and then just add dynamic properties such as electrolyte movement. And this is a streaming battery. However, it does not add energy density to the process. And now our mover is a process of movement of not only air as an electrolyte ionizing the surface of the outflow, but also the blades themselves, which are current-inducing devices. Therefore, it becomes possible to significantly reduce the scale of the device to increase its productivity and the density of the conversion processes, which means that it is possible to ensure noiseless operation and the absence of flow stall at any speeds and energy efficiency at all stages.
              1. Tuzik
                Tuzik 29 March 2020 13: 54 New
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                Thank you for your answers, but here, as you rightly said, "you need to think in complex and algorithmically related concepts that describe the process." smile I'm afraid to tear me apart.
                1. gridasov
                  gridasov 29 March 2020 13: 55 New
                  +1
                  There will be a desire, there will be a development process.
  4. Victor_B
    Victor_B 29 March 2020 10: 08 New
    +1
    Ours will certainly answer with something.
    Maybe in a hurry is not particularly worth it.
    Take a closer look at the results.
    Well, then the intrigue of Mi vs Ka!
    And in the end, the traditional adoption of TWO platforms.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 29 March 2020 10: 09 New
    +3
    The rotor in the coaxial scheme is very close to them (Sikorsky). Aren't you afraid of "collapsing" blades on overloads on bends? There was such a disaster on the K-50, where the rotor was "pushed apart" ... Why does it seem to me that if such a task is given to our designers, the Alligator will be converted into a high-speed helicopter. And not for a billion dollars!
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 29 March 2020 10: 12 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The rotor in the coaxial circuit of them (Sikorsky) is very close.

      In my opinion there is no swashplate.
      The main screws work in a more "gentle" mode.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 29 March 2020 10: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor_B
        In my opinion there is no swashplate.

        Then it, like the Ka-52, will not be able to fly sideways or in reverse, nor will it execute a "funnel". It will turn out to be something like an autogyro.
        1. Topgun
          Topgun 29 March 2020 11: 17 New
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          you look at the video news - there he makes a circle sideways
          maybe he’s in any way, they just don’t have experience in piloting such birds yet, and indeed it’s all for the time being ...
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 29 March 2020 11: 44 New
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            Quote: Topgun
            you look at the video news - there he makes a circle sideways

            And you read the post, to which I replied. Victor_B (Victor Petrovich) suggested that he did not have a swashplate. So I wrote to him what would happen in that case. So, your claim is not addressed.
            1. Topgun
              Topgun 29 March 2020 11: 51 New
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              but why did you decide that I have a complaint to you?
              we comment comments :)
              1. Piramidon
                Piramidon 29 March 2020 13: 25 New
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                Quote: Topgun
                but why did you decide that I have a complaint to you?
                we comment comments :)

                You need to look closely at what you are responding to and to whom. hi
    2. Topgun
      Topgun 29 March 2020 11: 08 New
      -3
      and you look at the blades - hard
      I don’t even know who else in the world can do such things ...
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 29 March 2020 11: 21 New
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        Quote: Topgun
        and you look at the blades - hard
        I don’t even know who else in the world can do such things ...

        Did you understand what you said?
        1. Topgun
          Topgun 29 March 2020 11: 23 New
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          expand comment
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 29 March 2020 11: 26 New
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            Quote: Topgun
            and you look at the blades - hard
            Now you understand?
            1. Topgun
              Topgun 29 March 2020 11: 29 New
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              what is clear? Do you even know which blades are put on helicopters? :)
              and how do they work? :)
    3. venik
      venik 29 March 2020 11: 24 New
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      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      The rotor in the coaxial scheme is very close to them (Sikorsky). Aren't you afraid of "collapsing" of the blades at overloads on bends?

      =========
      I also noticed .... But their (Sikorsky's) blades are shorter and stiffer. True, and the speed of rotation of the rotor, they apparently had to increase (with all the problems "ensuing" from this) ...
  6. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 29 March 2020 10: 25 New
    -3
    AND! So, judging by the video, this is a 2-year-old fast helicopter program! There, just like that, part of this video surfaced. Only the word "super-speed" is no longer in the article.

    And most importantly, we have already answered!
    First, drawings of a helicopter with a triangular supersonic wing, (declared speed of up to 750 km h), and then, like projects of Ka with screws spaced apart at an angle !!!

    And since Serdyukov and his friends are at the moment, you can not worry!
  7. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 29 March 2020 12: 27 New
    0
    Suitable for intelligence. They need a maneuverable nimble car.
    1. Tuzik
      Tuzik 29 March 2020 12: 46 New
      +1
      And where doesn’t the maneuverable nimble machine fit? wink
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 29 March 2020 14: 51 New
        +1
        I meant that Black Hawk or Apache this helicopter will not notice.
        He has insufficient carrying capacity.
  8. Ros 56
    Ros 56 29 March 2020 12: 40 New
    0
    The cartoon is somehow not very.
  9. Azazelo
    Azazelo 29 March 2020 13: 15 New
    +2
    That's interesting why no one is bothered by the coaxial scheme stolen from Kamov ... otherwise every "expert" says about Kalashnikov and Schmeiser, but then there is silence ...
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 29 March 2020 13: 39 New
      -1
      Quote: Azazelo
      It’s interesting why the coaxial scheme stolen from Kamov doesn’t touch anyone ....

      There is a fundamentally different scheme.
      And if something is "stolen", then autogyros, not helicopters
    2. Tuzik
      Tuzik 29 March 2020 13: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: Azazelo
      It’s interesting why the coaxial scheme stolen from Kamov doesn’t touch anyone.

      The first patent for the coaxial arrangement of the rotors of an aircraft was issued in 1859 to the Englishman Henry Bright.
      1. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 21: 03 New
        +1
        This patent is no longer valid due to the age - and this scheme is self-evident and patent purity can be easily challenged .. Take, for example, Mikhail Lomonosov's "airfield machine" - it was invented and built according to the pine scheme before the mentioned patent. But the swashplate proposed by Yuriev is a necessary thing for a helicopter. And it was Kamov who was able to combine the coaxial scheme and the swashplate in a single design. But this should be protected by a patent and money imitators should be foolish!
      2. Mihail2019
        Mihail2019 29 March 2020 21: 05 New
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        An Englishman - by any means stole an idea from Lomonosov .. These "gentlemen" only knew how to steal and rob ..
        1. Tuzik
          Tuzik 29 March 2020 21: 17 New
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          There are smart people around the world at all times. Why did you decide that the Americans stole Kamov?
          1. Mihail2019
            Mihail2019 30 March 2020 01: 34 New
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            But I’m looking around the world, the shaft of helicopters is being made directly with a coaxial scheme ... And they all realized this idea right before Kamov ...
            About smart people I agree, only now the mind can be used for different purposes. And the Anglo-Saxons are driven into the subcortex - getting personal profit, no matter which way. That's why they have smart people more successful in methods of deception ..
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  11. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 29 March 2020 21: 57 New
    0
    I flipped through the chat and did not see the new data, for example:
    https://iz.ru/985815/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi/vystrel-na-vylet-snaipery-nauchilis-sbivat-vertolety-iz-zasady
    the essence is one, our MO teaches snipers to shoot down turntables with a caliber of 12.5 mm
    ps if ours learn this, what will they do "Stars and Stripes"?
  12. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 30 March 2020 17: 36 New
    0
    In itself, such a concept could not have appeared earlier. Once again, it’s simpler: - such a concept existed earlier and in various design bureaus.
    But what prevented the development of this concept?