The Pentagon looks at the actual confrontation between Turkey and Russia in Idlib


In the armed confrontation unleashed by the Turkish side around Syrian Idlib Ankara, at the risk of a direct military clash with Russia, it relies heavily on support from the United States. Nevertheless, Washington’s actions so far demonstrate the unwillingness of the American side to become one of the direct participants in this conflict, which is fraught with completely unpredictable consequences. The promise of "all-round support" is one thing, but real deliveries weapons - completely different, not without reason they believe there.


In words, the Americans see in Turkey a wonderful ally against Russia. This was stated bluntly the other day during a hearing in the Senate Committee on Armed Forces of the U.S. Senate Committee on NATO Armed Forces in Europe, US Air Force General Tod Walters, who also heads the European command of the US Armed Forces. In his opinion, "the role of this country in confronting Russia is today central." Pointing out that Moscow and Ankara equally "consider the Black Sea region to be their natural zone of influence" and, moreover, are currently "conflicting in Libya and in direct conflict in Idlib," the general says the United States should "continue joint work with Turkey against Russia. ” Walters is convinced that this is certainly in line with the “long-term interests” of both countries.

Nevertheless, Ankara’s appeal to Washington with a request to provide Patriot air defense systems that had seemed to be promised long ago remained without any clear answer. With these air defense systems, Recep Erdogan and his generals planned, according to their statements, to cover the air borders of their country in case the conflict in Idlib escalated into full-scale hostilities between Turkey and Russia. Nevertheless, it is unlikely that anyone is able to give one hundred percent guarantee that if they were transferred to the Turkish side, these air defense systems would not have been in Idlib after some time, providing another suicidal “blitzkrieg” of descendants of the Janissaries. If Erdogan’s talk about deploying Patriot on Turkish borders implied working with American settlements with them, the situation looks even more risky: after all, in the event of an aggravation provoked by the Turks under the blow of the Russian air forces, the U.S. Army could easily have appeared.

Apparently, such a radical scenario is not yet included in Washington's plans. He prefers to look from the side, like that "smart Chinese monkey" from ancient wisdom.

Also, the uncertainty of the Americans in the ability of their air defense systems to effectively counter our aviation. The destruction of the very first Patriot (and it doesn’t matter with what calculation) by the Russian plane will become a military-technical sensation and will definitely put an end to US attempts to impose these, frankly, not cheap air defense systems to all its allies without exception.

One way or another, but, according to Recep Erdogan himself, even his personal appeal to Donald Trump did not help to resolve the issue. According to the Turkish leader, the presidents “discussed the situation in Idlib,” but this did not lead to anything concrete. “At the moment, America simply does not have any systems that it would be ready to deliver to us,” Erdogan was forced to say. Well, yes - they sold it out in the store, and the warehouse is closed for rediscounting ... Ankara should have drawn realistic conclusions from this situation, as well as from the polite but inexorable refusal of the North Atlantic Alliance to help Turkey in Idlib, even though it is its member. “If something happens,” if the mind and sense of self-preservation completely betray Ankara, it, as it was five years ago, will be face to face with Russia. And all the consequences of their own aggressive actions, no matter how heavy they may be, will also dissolve on their own.
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  1. BISMARCK94 27 February 2020 18: 37 New
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    There is nothing to be friends with the Turks. The situational ally has ended
    1. Tatyana 27 February 2020 19: 01 New
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      Turkey, in opposition to the United States of Russia, is not so much an ally of the United States as it is the proxy force of the United States in the confrontation of Washington to Moscow.
      Only our Russian liberals - pro-American and pro-Western globalists from world politics - could not understand this. Do not understand that Erdogan is not so much a globalist as a nationalist.

      Well, now we, Russians, are sitting with our globalist construction of a Turkish nuclear power plant, with our "Turkish stream" in front of Erdogan on the most Turkish tomatoes!

      It's a pity! I always talked about this.
      1. tihonmarine 27 February 2020 21: 56 New
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        Quote: Tatiana
        It's a pity! I always talked about this.

        Exactly. Beautifully Edik sang songs, but went to the toilet liquid.
    2. paul3390 27 February 2020 19: 05 New
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      But they gave gas, rockets, we build a nuclear power plant for free, the tourists there, the tomatoes, the plane were forgiven, the ambassador was killed. They even treated us with ice cream. No - something did not grow together in our wise leadership .. We still have to beat the Ottomans with their faces. What should be expected from the beginning ..
      1. dSK
        dSK 28 February 2020 00: 47 New
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        - american president Donald Trump spoke truthfully about the task of the US military in Syria. According to him, the fight against the banned terrorist "Islamic state" in Russia should be conducted by Russia, Iran, Iraq and Syria, and The US must control and safeguard oil fields.
  2. Magus 27 February 2020 18: 38 New
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    “At the moment, America simply does not have any systems that it would be ready to deliver to us,” Erdogan was forced to say.

    Trump understands that weapons handed over to Turkey, in connection with the neo-Ottoman ambitions of Erdogan, can also hit US allies.
    1. Doctor 27 February 2020 19: 14 New
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      Trump understands that weapons handed over to Turkey, in connection with the neo-Ottoman ambitions of Erdogan, can also hit US allies.

      Understands, although not military.
      The question is whether our leaders understand who can hit the S-400.
  3. DMB 75 27 February 2020 18: 50 New
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    prefers to see from the side that "smart Chinese monkey" from ancient wisdom

    And what a convenient position. So Trump said so bluntly: "We did an excellent job, we actually withdrew our troops from Syria, except for the small hot spots that we plan to develop. We established control over the oil, and the soldiers who they are there, they are guarding her. "
    They don’t care about the Turks, the Kurds and everyone else, they pump oil. Kurds believed them at the time, now the Turks have the same rake, they found someone to believe, the problems of the Sheriff’s Indians never interested
    Ankara’s appeal to Washington with a request to provide Patriot SAMs promised for a long time remained without any clear answer.
    1. tihonmarine 27 February 2020 21: 41 New
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      Quote: DMB 75
      And what a convenient position. So Trump said so bluntly: "We did an excellent job, we actually withdrew our troops from Syria, except for the small hot spots that we plan to develop. We established control over the oil, and the soldiers who they are there, they are guarding her. "

      I agree with you. And I’ll add, the Americans calculated everything, waited for the moment when we finish building the gas pipeline, then they pushed our foreheads together, and they sat down on oil. The losses are minimal, the maximum return, plus the Tukrks are biting with Russia. Well-designed strategic chess game.
      1. Range 27 February 2020 23: 41 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        the Americans calculated everything, waited for the moment when we completed the gas pipeline, then they pushed them together with their foreheads, and they themselves sat on oil. The losses are minimal, the maximum return, plus the Tukrks are biting with Russia. Well-designed strategic chess game.

        The game is not over yet and the outcome is unknown.
  4. Chingachguk 27 February 2020 18: 51 New
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    Erdogan will confront Russia? Or will Russia give up the Syria to the Turks fearing confrontation with the Turks?
  5. A.TOR 27 February 2020 18: 52 New
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    [quoteThe destruction of the very first Patriot (and it doesn’t matter with what calculation) the Russian plane will become a military-technical sensation and will definitely put an end to US attempts to impose these, frankly, not cheap air defense systems to all its allies without exception.] [/ quote]
    And if Israel or the United States "bangs" the Russian complex, what will put on appropriate attempts?
    Banalities are such banalities ...
    1. tihonmarine 27 February 2020 21: 43 New
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      And if Israel or the United States "bangs" the Russian complex, what will put on appropriate attempts?

      It will be so, but without the if.
  6. Charik 27 February 2020 18: 58 New
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    but don’t the Turks have a Patriot or S-400 air defense missile system and why they won’t throw it to the border, it’s not clear why the United States is asking
    1. atalef 27 February 2020 19: 16 New
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      Quote: Charik
      or why the S-400 is not thrown to the border, it is not clear why the United States is asking

      This will be a circus. if the Turks bring down a Russian aircraft with s-400.
      interesting . what then will Peskov and Zakharova say?
      1. tihonmarine 27 February 2020 21: 44 New
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        Quote: atalef
        what then will Peskov and Zakharova say?

        Circus, cinema and Germans.
    2. ABM
      ABM 1 March 2020 18: 08 New
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      S-400 is currently not operational, they do not have “Patriots”
  7. knn54 27 February 2020 18: 59 New
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    Erdogan did not understand that the United States supported the Kurds as a counterweight to Turkey. And the barmaley to buy the same Yankees does not cost anything.
  8. Goldmitro 27 February 2020 18: 59 New
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    [Quote
    ... if Erdogan’s talk about deploying Patriot on Turkish borders implied working with them.american settlements, the situation looks even more risky: ...
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    Indeed, the roof of Erdogan in Idlib is moving more and more and he is already like a monkey with a grenade!
    1. saigon 28 February 2020 05: 33 New
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      Dmitry, Erdogan’s actions in Idlib are just quite expected.
      For hell, forgive the vegetable for him at the border of the Kurdish, no matter what flag.
      1. Goldmitro 28 February 2020 13: 40 New
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        Quote: saigon
        Dmitry, Erdogan’s actions in Idlib are just quite expected.
        For hell, forgive the vegetable for him at the border of the Kurdish, no matter what flag.

        The fact of the matter is that he constantly mimics: then it confirms the sovereignty of Syria, but in fact, it is trying to chop off a piece of territory from it, it takes an obligation to separate the terrorists from the Syrian opposition, but in fact it supports and arms them and uses them to implement its plans! Moreover, with its troops it takes part in their attacks on the Syrian government forces and takes part in attempts to shoot down Russian airborne forces![/ b] Did this agree with him in Sochi? And today, when he smelled fried, he is trying to attract NATO to his side, not embarrassed that his crazy idea could lead to a clash between NATO and Russia! And at the expense of the Kurds - let him first establish relations with them in Turkey, and then [b] crawl with his charter to other countries!
  9. atalef 27 February 2020 19: 13 New
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    Also, the uncertainty of the Americans in the ability of their air defense systems to effectively resist our aviation can play a role. The destruction of the very first Patriot (and it doesn’t matter with what calculation) by the Russian plane will become a military-technical sensation and will definitely put an end to US attempts to impose these, frankly, not cheap air defense systems to all its allies without exception.

    Analyzer belay
    And if you get knocked down?
    request
    what then will it put an end to?
    Does anyone have doubts about the ability of the Patriots to shoot down planes?
    everything can be much simpler 7
    Erdogan just started playing his own games. imagining from himself it is not known what and having decided. that can be seen on 5 chairs.
    Well, let's observe. how Erdogan’s pants are torn.
    The states in this auditorium will generally sit in the front row with a bag of popcorn, until Erdogan runs on all fours.
    Interesting situation.
    The cunning self fucked himself.
    By the way, in my understanding, Russia's position in this situation is not much better. once again raise Erdogan to the rank of enemy?
    Even seasoned in Putin's political turns, Russians will not understand this.
    scare off the south stream? S-400 sanctions? NPP construction?
    Who in general is held hostage ... because of Assad. what
    here, yes, you won’t refer to the multi-way no
    Believed Erdogan laughing
    It’s better to lose with the smart than to find with d u r ak about.
    1. dauria 27 February 2020 21: 33 New
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      Believed Erdogan

      Well, well ... nobody believes anyone there, like everywhere else. "Not words and intentions are important, but potential." I understand that Israel would like a different Syria (like the current Iraq). Then many accumulated Jewish problems would be resolved.
      Do not hurry. This is for a long time. They will stop, stand, think. Until something changes. A dozen tanks, a hundred soldiers - this is not war. So, cross-border misunderstanding. The base of the Russian Federation is Assad in power, they will find a replacement for him (if suddenly).
      And they will decide with Erdogan. And the head of Israel has hit the road to Moscow more than once.
      But leave the popcorn - it will come in handy for the election of Trump or an epidemic in Europe.
      I am certainly happy with one thing - the Russians have become as smart as American Jews (or Jewish Americans). A squadron of aircraft and a bunch of diplomats keep the whole country in spite of the United States.
    2. tihonmarine 27 February 2020 21: 46 New
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      Quote: atalef
      It’s better to lose with the smart than to find with d u r ak about.

      An old proven saying always works.
  10. Prisoner 27 February 2020 19: 31 New
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    "In words, the Americans see Turkey as a wonderful ally against Russia." (c) Amers have a peculiar vision. They see Turks as their allies against Russia, but point blank they do not see themselves as Turks allies against Russia. winked
  11. smaug78 27 February 2020 20: 05 New
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    That's interesting: the author fled from Ukraine, so as not to fight, was not seen in Syria. But now blames others for not participating in hostilities. Typical Ukrainian - a lover of shekels ..
    1. gmb
      gmb 27 February 2020 21: 12 New
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      If you had a lot of shekels, you would love them too drinks
  12. Yehudi Menuhin 27 February 2020 21: 08 New
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    The article is so-so. Recalled political information in the 8th grade of the Soviet school
    1. divanka2021 27 February 2020 23: 59 New
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      Predict Predict
  13. JonnyT 27 February 2020 21: 32 New
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    You are so naive .... The USA is waiting for blood like a jackal, why should they openly declare their support to their main NATO ally, while the Russian Federation is still not stuck ????

    They sit and wait, wait until the brighter flare up, then to warm themselves on both sides
    1. tihonmarine 27 February 2020 21: 54 New
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      Quote: JonnyT
      They sit and wait, wait until the brighter flare up, then to warm themselves on both sides

      Why should they wait, what they need is Oil. They launched a “fool” that the troops are withdrawing from Syria, even abandoned the bases, all in the joys threw hats. But suddenly the "withdrawn troops" were in the oil fields. The tale is simple, "We are on the oil, and you fight." Well, the patriots with jelinchiki and MANPADS throw to the Turks for the good "grandmother". Business!
  14. ruben morelli 27 February 2020 21: 40 New
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    It is clear that between NATO and Turkey everything is a trap; it is no coincidence that the Turks are at such a risk.
  15. Vyacheslav Viktorovich 27 February 2020 23: 24 New
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    Nevertheless, Ankara’s appeal to Washington with a request to provide Patriot air defense missiles promised for a long time remained without any clear answer.
    The answer was given a year ago and absolutely intelligible: the previously permitted sale of Patriot to Turkey in the amount of $ 3.5 billion was canceled after the purchase of S-400 by Turkey.

    We have repeatedly warned Turkey that our last Patriot proposal will be withdrawn if it accepts the S-400 systems. Our Patriot Offer Expired
  16. Campanella 27 February 2020 23: 24 New
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    It is logical for NATO and the United States to weaken Turkey and remove the intractable Erdogan, while if Russia gets involved in a full-blown, they will start rubbing their hands and quietly supplying weapons. To weaken the two key players and Iran to the heap is a big geopolitical victory.
  17. Kapral Alphych 28 February 2020 07: 19 New
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    Turks all their lives on a short leash in the West. And in the Syrian campaign is one of the most active weapons of the tan. Until you break it or turn it against the Master, nothing will change.
    1. g1washntwn 28 February 2020 07: 28 New
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      First, Britain has errands, now - overseas Anglo-Saxons. Habit.
      Like a bob on a short leash, he also thinks that he walks on his own and does what he wants.
      1. Kapral Alphych 28 February 2020 08: 56 New
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        Right In the 14th and 15th centuries they were free, they won a bit, and even drove the Europeans. And then forever in someone’s dependence.