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Silver and mercury. Covert operations of World War II

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Silver and mercury. Covert operations of World War II

Thirty One Ton Mercury



In April 1944, a large ocean-going U-859 submarine (type IXD2) sailed from Kiel, carrying a secret cargo (31 tons of mercury in metal flasks) and heading to Penang occupied by the Japanese. Less than an hour before its destination, after six months and 22 miles of travel, the U-000 was sunk by the British submarine HMS Trenchant. Of the 859 crew members, only 67 people were able to rise to the surface from a 20-meter depth.

Large amounts of mercury were transported in submarines as part of the German-Japanese agreements on the exchange of materials and technologies necessary for military operations. Some of these submarines reached their destinations, others were sunk in transit (like U-864) or surrendered with cargo on board at the end of the U-234 war.

Boats of type IXD2 possessed the largest in German navy cruising range. Autonomy was 23700 miles, at 12 knots, 57 miles at 4 knots under water. The maximum immersion depth is 230 m.

They were equipped with two powerful MAN supercharged diesel engines. Also installed are two additional diesel engines used for cruising in the freeboard position. To reduce the time of immersion, the superstructure in the bow was cut off. The U-859 was armed with six torpedo tubes (four on the bow and two at the stern), 24 torpedoes, one naval gun SK C / 32 10,5 cm, Flak M42 3,7 cm, and two 2 cm (C / 30 ) anti-aircraft guns. The U-859 was equipped with a snorkel.

On some submarines operating in the Monsun group (a group of German submarines operating in the Pacific and Indian oceans during World War II, organizationally part of the 33rd submarine flotilla), a small single folding Focke-Achgelis Fa-330 gyroplane was used Bachstelze "(" Wagtail "), capable of rising to a height of 120 m.


On April 4, 1944, the U-859 submarine, under the command of Lieutenant Commander Johann Jebsen, left Kiel, carrying 31 tons of mercury in metal flasks, as well as critical parts for radar installations and equally important technical information. After a short stop in the Norwegian Kristiansand, the boat continued sailing, passing between the Shetland Islands and Greenland, then leaving the Atlantic. Lieutenant Commander I. Jebsen also avoided shipping lanes during his stay in the North Atlantic. The boat remained under water 23 hours a day, moving under the snorkel, floating to the surface for only one hour at night.

Jebsen was a cautious and methodical person. He used the radio only for listening and did not report the location of the boat. He had strict instructions: the primary task was to secretly reach the destination of Penang and not to reveal himself in any way. Why, on April 26, Jebsen decided to attack the Panamanian cargo ship Colin, which was behind the SC-157 convoy as a result of a steering gear breakdown, one wonders.

Having sunk "Colin" with three torpedoes, U-859 continued its journey to the south. After two months, the submarine rounded the Cape of Good Hope and entered the Indian Ocean.

On April 5, U-859 was spotted and attacked by Lockheed Ventura (according to other sources, the attack plane was Catalina). And again, instead of diving, Jebsen decided that he could easily bring down a plane using the ones on board weapon.

- Flieralarm! He cried out, and the team took up their combat posts.

Both C / 30 anti-aircraft guns opened fire, but the 3,7-cm jammed. The plane flew over the submarine, shelling it with machine guns. Calculation Flak M42 tried to troubleshoot. The plane turned around and went on the attack again, shelling a submarine. Jebsen decided that he was no longer going to participate in this deadly contest, and ordered an emergency dive. When the U-859 slid under the water, five bombs fell nearby, shaking the boat. As a result of the attack, three crew members of the submarine were injured, one died, and the snorkel was seriously damaged.


The second victim of the U-859 was the "silver" John Barry, a Liberty series vessel. There are several versions about how much silver this ship carried. One of them: in addition to the three million silver Saudi riyals minted in Philadelphia at the request of Saudi Arabia, there was a significant amount of silver bullion intended for the USSR on board, worth $ 26 million, equivalent to about 1500 tons of silver at 1944 prices.



At sunset on 28 August, U-859 surfaced as usual to determine coordinates and recharge its batteries. The following approximate coordinates were established: 15 ° 10`N. and 55 ° 18`E. And then Lieutenant-Commander Jebsen was incredibly surprised and at the same time delighted: he saw an enemy merchant ship, not accompanied by an escort and sailing an irregular zigzag course in almost complete blackout mode. Three torpedoes, and "John Barry" sank with treasures to a depth of 2600 meters.


Three days later, another British ship, Troilus, with a load of tea, copra and coconut oil, was also sunk by U-859.


22000 miles behind. 20 left


At dawn on September 23, 1944, U-859 rose halfway between the islands of Langkawi and Botong from the waters of the warm Indian Ocean. The submarine covered 22 nautical miles, of which 000 are under water. She was on the road for five months, two weeks and five days.

Jebsen got in touch with Penang and was informed that due to the worsening weather conditions he would have to go to the harbor without escort and without protection. U-859 was located 20 nautical miles northwest of Penang in the Strait of Malacca, moving along the surface at a speed of about 14 knots.

German observers could not find the British submarine HMS "Trenchant" or the approaching torpedoes. HMS Trenchant Commander Arthur Hazlet launched a surprise attack using his stern torpedo tubes.

U-859 sank immediately, killing 47 people, including its commander.

Twenty crew members still managed to escape. Eleven of the survivors were picked up by HMS Trenchant immediately after flooding, the remaining nine were picked up by the Japanese after 24 hours of drift and delivered to shore.

(The most significant victory for HMS Trenchant was the sinking of the Japanese cruiser Asigara on June 8, 1945. It was the largest Japanese warship sunk by the Royal Navy during the war. Arthur Hezlett rose to the rank of vice admiral.)

Instead of an epilogue


In 1972, a total of 859 tons of mercury was picked up by commercial divers at the site of U-12 death and delivered to Singapore. Soon, representatives of the Malaysian Navy arrived at the site of the death of the submarine and banned further work.

The Supreme Court of Singapore ruled:

“... the German state never ceased to exist, despite the unconditional surrender of Germany in 1945, and what was the property of the German state, unless it was seized and seized by one of the allied powers, still remains the property of the German state ..."

(Reports on International Law. T. 56. Cambridge University Press, 1980. P. 40–47.)

Subsequently, the wreckage of the boat was destroyed by explosives by the German diving team.

In November 1989, Shoemaker, Fiondella, and two Washington attorneys won the right to investigate the John Barry vessel. In 1994, after four years of testing, which was preceded by many years of painstaking archival research, one and a half million Saudi riyals weighing 17 tons were lifted from the site of the death of John Barry.


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  1. Catfish
    Catfish 6 January 2020 05: 19
    +15
    Sergey, thanks for a new interesting sea story! good
    The German commander somehow relaxed literally at the last meters of the race. Or, nevertheless, fate? Be that as it may, the commander of the British boat is well done, especially considering that the Royal Submarine Fleet did not particularly glorify itself in this war, so Admiral Hazlet subsequently became quite deserved. hi
    1. bubalik
      6 January 2020 08: 06
      +13
      hi Bletchley Park worked. wink The Germans had a very strong faith in their own, Enigma. HMS "Trenchant" had been guarding them for a long time. And yes, after the sinking of Colin, Jebsen did contact.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 6 January 2020 08: 16
        +11
        I got in touch, well and durrk, the story with "Bismarck" taught nothing.
        1. Glory1974
          Glory1974 8 January 2020 12: 23
          +4
          I got in touch, well, and d u r ak,

          The fact of contacting the enemy does not give anything. A maximum can approximately determine the area of ​​the boat.
          Even if the intercepted message was decoded, it is not a fact that it contained information about the destination and time of arrival.
          But if he was waiting at the entrance to the port, we can assume intelligence intelligence.
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 8 January 2020 13: 25
            +3
            One radio interception was enough to finish off the Bismarck. And with regard to the fact that the British had intelligence about the boat's departure and about the final point of its route, you are right, otherwise everything that happened is impossible to explain. The British literally watched her.
            1. Pane Kohanku
              Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 09: 19
              +5
              The British literally guarded her.

              colleagues, I apologize for the long absence. wink The article is gorgeous, I bow to the Author good
              I remembered Igor Mozheiko. In the book "Pirates, Corsairs, Raiders" he describes the episode with the submarine U-852. That, they say, having sunk a merchant ship, the team began to shoot the crew, and was so carried away that they did not notice the enemy plane. who drowned the boat.
              But Igor Vsevolodovich is inaccurate, apparently. request Yes, the Germans sank the Greek steamer Pileus, and did shoot the survivors, and, according to Wikipedia, even took part in the shooting "kind German ship doctor"... negative the critical damage just after which the boat was washed ashore was inflicted on her by British bombers a month and a half after the crime was committed. But the three survivors from the crew of the ill-fated steamboat ran in the raft on the sea as much as 39 days! hi
              Once again: Sergey - I bow! drinks
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 9 January 2020 09: 50
                +4
                Nikolay, hello and my congratulations on the past Christmas! hi
                I just didn't read Mozheiko, what's the point of reading a book by a good historian-orientalist on a topic that he knows no more than any of his readers. You yourself noted it, to put it mildly, "inaccuracy". We have another writer who often wishful thinking, V.S. Pikul, but at least he does not claim to be a historian, but calls his books Roman-Chronicle.
                And by the way, after the war, the Allies tried and sentenced to death only one commander of the German submarine (I don’t remember the name), although, of course, there wasn’t the only such case. About everything much more and better can tell our Sergey, he and the cards in his hands. drinks
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 09: 54
                  +3
                  about Mozheiko - I agree with you that it is not worth taking on faith, but he writes very well. hi
                  About everything much more and better can tell our Sergey, he and the cards in his hands.

                  Exactly! Subscribe! drinks
                  Nikolay, hello and my congratulations on the past Christmas!

                  And all of you Merry Christmas!
              2. bubalik
                9 January 2020 10: 12
                +4
                Pane Kohanku (Pane Kohanku)

                hi Thank you.
                U-852 episode
                ,,, how did you miss belay
                in September there was an article "Death at the Equator" feel
                1. Pane Kohanku
                  Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 10: 41
                  +4
                  in September there was an article "Death at the Equator"

                  missed it! belay I repent, repent, repent!recourse
                  The commander of the submarine, Heinz Ekk, the ship's doctor Walter Weispfening, and Starpom August Hoffmann, were sentenced to death and shot on November 30 on November 1945.

                  But doctor??? A doctor with a machine gun killed unarmed? belay This is already in general ... negative one of my acquaintances, the Good Doctor of this German aibolit, would strangle with his bare hands for this ... am
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 9 January 2020 11: 11
                    +3
                    Nikolay, here you reminded me, it was Ekka that I had in mind.
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 11: 30
                      +2
                      Nikolay, here you reminded me, it was Ekka that I had in mind.

                      like, not the only case like .. what
                      1. bubalik
                        9 January 2020 11: 35
                        +4
                        ,,,war request after such excesses, few witnesses remain.
                      2. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 11: 43
                        +4
                        after such excesses, few witnesses remain.

                        as Vlad would say - "yeah". recourse and ends in water - literally.
                        I read on the wiki that during Operation Wunderland in 1942, the Germans from the U-209 submarine, having sunk our barge with people, also finished off ...
                        Information about a German submarine attack on a tug convoy near Matveyev Island was received in Khabarovo at about 09.20. The minesweepers TSh-54 and TSh-62 standing there under the general command of Captain 3rd Rank Korolev weighed anchor and moved to the area of ​​the incident. At 11.00. on the south, the silhouette of the tug "Nord" was seen, with which we managed to get close after 40 minutes. His captain briefly outlined the situation, saying that he did not know anything about the fate of the other ships and their crews. After attaching a tug to the wake of TShch-54, the ships went at full speed to Matveev Island.
                        At 14.40. when approaching the island, a boat with people was seen on the water. Minesweepers changed course at 15.00. they took on board two people from the barge P-4, one of whom was seriously wounded in the arm. At the same time, ТЩ-54 picked up two dead bodies kept on water thanks to cork belts. The rescued reported that they were the only ones who survived the P-4 barge. According to their testimony, the German submariners, having shot the ship from artillery, finished off floating in the water from hand weapons.

                        http://old.nvinder.ru/archive/2005/mar/28/08.html
                        this boat in 1943 went missing with the whole crew .. negative there and the road!
                      3. bubalik
                        9 January 2020 11: 56
                        +5
                        ,,, with the submarines a lot of interesting tied.
                        How would history have gone if Tsang had sunk the Nelson with Churchill on board in U-56 on October 30, 1939, but the torpedoes refused. Or the British USS Finback would not have caught the future 41st US President George W. Bush. what doom wink
                      4. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 12: 19
                        +4
                        Well, Winnie-the-Pooh was lucky at all, during the Boer War he was able to escape from captivity, but he wasn’t worth drowning, who would make the famous Fulton speech?
                        Segezh, how about Platov's The Flying Dutchman?
                      5. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 12: 26
                        +4
                        but it wasn’t worth drowning, who would have made the famous Fulton speech then?

                        and if Roosevelt lived to see the end of his presidency, would post-war history have gone any different? hi
                      6. bubalik
                        9 January 2020 12: 32
                        +5
                        You know Konstantin, I’ve reread it just the other day. But L. Platov wrote something in general truth. No specifics of course, but this information is now mostly secret. About all the secret campaigns in South America, secret conspiracies, about the supply of materials.
                      7. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 12: 39
                        +4
                        Yes, I always liked this book, but the film did not come in, when I saw this sort of "torpedo boat" - that's it, I can't take it, period.
                        But to find something about these secret flights to Latin America would be extremely interesting.
                        Haven't read "In the Anaconda Ring"? Published in the seventies, it seems, in Around the World.
                      8. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 13: 14
                        +5
                        Yes, I always liked this book, but the film did not come in, when I saw this sort of "torpedo boat" - that's it, I can't take it, period.

                        a little not in the theme of the fleet, but in the topic of perception of films. hi last year the "historical film" "Two Queens" was released - about the relationship between Elizabeth and Mary Stuart. I even wanted to go to the movies to see it, then I was wildly happy that I hadn't! wink in general, somewhere in April, I watched it on the Internet for free. The film became uninteresting in ten minutes, as soon as the first time showed "English royal court of the XVI century". Yard - in the sense of retinue. Hmm .. half are blacks .. No. I mean, Afro-English .. negative after that, my film definitely "did not go", as you say, and halfway through I turned it off and did not check it. request and you are a torpedo boat, a torpedo boat, Konstantin! drinks This is so petty prank compared to what they are shooting now! laughing drinks
                      9. bubalik
                        9 January 2020 13: 36
                        +4
                        ,,, about the movies. Recently I looked, doesn’t strike my eyes?

                        shoulder straps.
                      10. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 00
                        +3
                        about the movies. Recently I looked, doesn’t strike my eyes?

                        a shame. hi
                        But how do you like this?
                        This is the deputy governor of Rostov (I don’t know how it ended there?) Sergey Sidash. In the form of "Stalin's falcon". https://donday.ru/zaderzhannyy-v-rostove-zamgubernatora-sergey-sidash-hranit-doma-svoi-portrety-v-obrazah-dvoryan-i-voennyh.html

                        Just now, the one who did this portrait for him was obviously hacking! For the form - until the 43rd year, but the Order of Lenin with a block appeared in June 1943! request
                      11. bubalik
                        9 January 2020 14: 03
                        +5
                        ,, Yes, and the officer belt of the time, like this, with a star
                      12. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 08
                        +3
                        Yes, and the officer belt of the time, like this, with a star

                        I think you are right. Although it is better to ask Victor Nikolaevich. drinks
                        I used to think for a long time that the harness in the form of "two belts in front, behind the back converge into one" - that only soldiers of the Wehrmacht operated with such belts, and for a long time laughed for the eyes at the representative of the "Cossacks" who had one on the Cross Procession. But no, it turns out that they were all sorts of different things, and not only by the Germans - VikNik brought them to their senses. request
                      13. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 26
                        +2
                        Exactly, this is the pre-war officer belt, and the later one for the deputy commissar. drinks
                      14. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 24
                        +6
                        And the star of the Hero never hung in a row with the rest of the awards, but was located higher. And the artist van crookedly added a van to his head. laughing Pure hack, but such a client needs it, I guess.
                      15. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 30
                        +3
                        Pure hack, but such a client needs it, I guess.

                        it’s scary .... that one draws like this, and the other likes it ....negative it's scary that such images are chosen by people who are clearly "far" from those events ...
                      16. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 44
                        +4
                        With the ability to steal correctly and often in aesthetics and taste there is no need. Therefore, the nouveau riche and hawala everything that they shove. laughing
                      17. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 53
                        +2
                        Therefore, the nouveau riche and hawala everything that they shove.

                        Yeah ... neither diminish nor add! request
                      18. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 19
                        +2
                        Yeah ... Although the devil knows, if this is the 43rd year, then far from everyone could get new shoulder straps. But the eye still hurts.
                      19. bubalik
                        9 January 2020 14: 22
                        +4
                        the film takes place after the war.
                      20. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 28
                        +3
                        Then finally! Filmmakers, damn holey ... laughing
                      21. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 34
                        +3
                        Then finally! Filmmakers, damn holey ...

                        I think their thought worked on the principle:
                        - And so it goes! ("Vovka in the Far Away Kingdom") request
                      22. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 25
                        +6
                        then far from all were able to get new shoulder straps. But the eye still hurts.

                        just epaulettes, it seems, got it. Here is a new tunic with a standing collar - not everyone could get it quickly, so they sewed it on the old one, with a turn-down. Like our favorite clown, for example. But his friend - already dressed in a new one! soldier
                      23. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 34
                        +2
                        New, as they say, is well forgotten old. Or maybe Nikulin's friend has a gymnast from "pre-ancient times", from dad or grandfather? smile
                      24. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 14: 39
                        +3
                        Or maybe Nikulin's friend has a gymnast from "pre-ancient times", from dad or grandfather?

                        EMNIP, there was a slanting collar. I mean, not centered, but shifted. In general, the buttons did not go in the middle of the neck.
                      25. bbss
                        bbss 9 January 2020 16: 11
                        +1
                        They say until the fall of the 43rd year, someone went like that. However, senior officers put on epaulets in a short time. There is a blunder in the film.
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                      27. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 12: 43
                        +2
                        Yeah, "On the role of personality in history" and "There are no irreplaceable people." Thanks for the enlightenment. hi
                      28. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 12: 01
                        +2
                        On this topic there was a good film "Murphy's War" with Peter O "Toole in the title role. There the commander of the sunken allied transport single-handedly took revenge on the German submariners and achieved his goal. If you haven't seen it, then take a look. smile
                  2. Jager
                    Jager 10 January 2020 23: 42
                    +3
                    Mengele was also a "doctor" ...
                    1. Pane Kohanku
                      Pane Kohanku 13 January 2020 09: 24
                      +3
                      Mengele was also a "doctor" ...

                      Yeah. Too bad they didn't catch the Aesculapius. angry
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 6 January 2020 08: 19
        +4
        Yes, Seryozha, we are interested here, the Japanese did not accompany the cargo from Germany, were they not on the boat?
        1. bubalik
          6 January 2020 08: 24
          +14
          The survivors do not confirm that the Japanese were on this boat. It is not entirely known the full name of the cargo. It was not in vain that the German divers (special team) cleaned out the drowning site. It reminded me of the Secret Fairway.
          1. bubalik
            6 January 2020 08: 33
            +10
            ,,, but about John Barry, I did not know at all until I started collecting material about U-859. Here's how the two covert operations intersected ?!
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 6 January 2020 09: 06
            +10
            But with stripping, it’s really interesting, in theory, this boat is considered a sea burial, or as it is called correctly, and then suddenly stripping. Interestingly, what kind of German divers worked there? Something with a darling kind of story turns out.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 6 January 2020 17: 04
              +4
              I could be wrong, but judging by the peremptory and cardinality of the actions, in resolving the issue, the divers could have been engaged by the Stasi ...?
              1. bubalik
                6 January 2020 17: 23
                +8
                Anton, do you think this version has the right to life?
                that "John Berry" was carrying out a secret mission, entrusted by US President Franklin Roosevelt, to deliver to the Soviet Union a secret gift to Stalin in the form of two thousand tons of silver bullion.
                According to J. Bisant, during the Tehran Conference in 1943, Roosevelt negotiated secretly with "Uncle Joe" about financial assistance in exchange for concessions in the course of the forthcoming division of zones of influence in the post-war world.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 6 January 2020 17: 38
                  +6
                  Difficult question. In my opinion, following the results of the "Tehran meeting", we (as a nation) settled in the 45th. According to the results of "Yalta" - we are still raking!
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 6 January 2020 17: 38
                +6
                Anton, and the "Stasi", what the hell was all this needed? And then, which of the two German states did the Malaysians transfer the lifted load to, I don’t think it was in the GDR. I say - the story is muddy.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 6 January 2020 17: 47
                  +6
                  Ha! But this is material for research. Very dumb, by the way ... Those who are interested can shoot off the head!
                  1. bubalik
                    6 January 2020 17: 56
                    +9
                    In 1944, a lot of strange things happened.
                    Here is the version, too, that 2 tons of gold from the Japanese boat I-52 were still loaded onto the U-530, which, after surrendering Germany, where did it come up? In argentina wink here's the Flying Dutchman.
                    Interested
                    ,, yeah, that a century ago, even the archives were closed for the most part, and for this they will say nothing.
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 6 January 2020 19: 03
                      +5
                      Sergei, how many boats disappeared at the end of the war? We left the bases, did not come to any port and are not listed among the "dead" either. That would be where to dig.
                      I heard about one strange story, how an unknown submarine, in the very beginning of the sixties, blew out of the guns all the luxury cabins on a certain liner in the Atlantic. She plunged and disappeared, no longer heard of her. And by the sixties in all countries, artillery from diesel engines had already been removed. What was that? request
                      1. bubalik
                        6 January 2020 19: 25
                        +7
                        and how many boats disappeared at the end of the war?

                        ,,, the last German boat U-977 surrendered to the Argentine authorities in the La Mar del Plata area on August 17, 1945.

                        at the very beginning of the sixties, blew all luxury cabins out of guns
                        ,,, not just one submarine, without state support, it won’t last that long.
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 19: 38
                        +4
                        I agree that the ship needs to be serviced, otherwise it has a skiff. But I had such information, and I shared it. I cannot vouch for the reliability, "for what I bought, I sold for that." Maybe it will come in handy for you as a note for memory, you will see something similar and immediately remember about it. smile
                2. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 6 January 2020 18: 24
                  +5
                  Well, in my opinion, "Stasi" is a direct descendant of the "Gestapo", in the sense of professionalism. Let me remind you, Mueller, was the only professional in this whole "hop-company". True, there was also Speer and the "smart guy" Hess ...
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 6 January 2020 18: 55
                    +7
                    Well, Mueller has been a policeman since "childhood", he himself and Aloizevich arrested after the "Munich putsch", and Speer and Hess are not at all involved here. And twist Müller just and there were two "suckers" Heydrich and Schellenberg, where there is Müller with his three classes of TsPSh. So there were enough pros there too, but they were all fake by the Nazis. laughing
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 6 January 2020 19: 12
                      +3
                      Guilty, Konstantin! Staufenberg's ghost who arrived at the wrong time confused all thoughts! laughing Of course: "Himmler's brain, the name is Heydrich." Heydrich "pushed" Schellenberg in every possible way, until his death, apparently, he sensed a competitor.
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 19: 35
                        +3
                        Yes, a fig, he did not push it, they dangled around the women together. In "Labyrinth" Walter makes himself almost a righteous man, and heydrich was kicked out of the navy because of a love affair. So Heydrich rather pulled him, and did not push him, he himself proposed Schellenberg for the post of chief of the SD, when he himself became the head of the Main Directorate of Imperial Security. And Heydrich's thirst for power was irrepressible, Adolf specially made him the protector of Bohemia and Moravia, in order to somehow satisfy his hunger.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 6 January 2020 19: 53
                        +2
                        The question remains open: who and why slammed Heydrich?
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 20: 04
                        +6
                        So he was slammed for the fact that he was so able to establish the production of weapons in Czechoslovakia that weapons came from there almost more than from Germany itself. And he created conditions there for workers and engineers better than in Germany again. London graduated there not from the "bloody executioner" and "Nazi bosses", but an excellent and professional organizer who managed to turn the occupied country into almost the main "weapons smithy" of the Reich. By the way, Schellenberg calculated such a possibility and warned his friend, but that, apparently, all this was on the drum, he was too confident in himself. So they banged "so as not to show off." laughing
                      4. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 9 January 2020 13: 32
                        +4
                        "London finished there not a" bloody executioner "and a" Nazi boss ", but an excellent and professional organizer" ////
                        ---
                        Heydrich, by the way, is the organizer of the Holocaust. Very professionally organized ... sad
                        Heydrich is an effective manager, Beria is an effective manager. The earlier such professional executioners get bullets, the better for everyone else.
                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 14: 41
                        0
                        Heydrich is an effective manager, Beria is an effective manager. The earlier such professional executioners get bullets, the better for everyone else.

                        Alexey hi , so no one argues, I mean the bullet fired in time. But. what to do ... what was - it was. request
                        And, by the way, I read somewhere that the "death camps" are not Himmler's idea, but the same "clever" Heydrich was in advance.
                    2. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 6 January 2020 19: 45
                      +3
                      Speer is a good architect, contractor, builder, organizer of work ... Finding himself in the place of the "suddenly deceased" Tod, he "drove into the topic" for a very long time, and when he drove in, he realized that the pyramid was built on the edge, not on the base. He tried to warn the "patron", carefully ... Speer honestly rewound his term.
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 19: 54
                        +3
                        Something I was not particularly impressed with his architectural talent. Adolf painted pictures for him like he saw a new building in New Germany, and Speer obediently embodied this nonsense in concrete. But he knew how to work, who argues ...
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 6 January 2020 20: 16
                        +2
                        Come on, come on! I think that the knowledge and skills to embody a meter-meter-meter cube in concrete so that it does not fall apart the day after tomorrow, from all those present, only I have enough. But, where am I, and who is Speer?
                      3. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 20: 21
                        +4
                        They kicked me out of MARCHI after a year and a half of study, otherwise I would argue as well. And in order to become a Speer you need to have a friend with the name Adolf, then it doesn’t matter if the cube falls apart, or it will stand. good
                      4. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 6 January 2020 20: 27
                        +2
                        Yes, the glory of Plato is paid for by the cycle of Socrates. laughing
                      5. bubalik
                        6 January 2020 20: 29
                        +10


                        ,,, and which flacturms were built.
                        Not a 1 * 1 cube.
                      6. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 6 January 2020 20: 39
                        +3
                        Frankly schizoid project! When I first got acquainted with such monstrosity, I was stunned !!! It turns out that the strongholds of the damned bourgeois who were shown to me in pre-school books about the Civil War were built a little later than the death of Arkady Petrovich !!!
                      7. bubalik
                        6 January 2020 20: 45
                        +7
                        ,,, and erected not for the sake of beauty. winked
                      8. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 6 January 2020 20: 52
                        +4
                        It was for "beauty" that they were erected! Because, the program of the air defense system (I repeat: systems!) In the western direction was completely "fucked up"!
                        All that remained was to build the "Sarumyan towers" in the city blocks.
                      9. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 21: 09
                        +5
                        And they no longer had airplanes for full-fledged air defense, and most importantly, there were no experienced pilots. Both were improved, but without them, what sort of air defense. The Japanese had the same story after Midway, but you can’t build towers in the okane.
                      10. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 6 January 2020 21: 21
                        +2
                        I can reveal a terrible secret, Constantine! laughing But air defense is, first of all, a means of detection and warning. Destroyers can be dowry units.
                      11. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 23: 23
                        +4
                        No secret, all the more terrible. smile What was the point for the Germans at the end of the war in "detection and prevention", when it was banal with the enemy aircraft simply nothing to fight with. Look - don't look, shout - don't shout, but the "Flying Fortress" will still throw its load on its head, and then all sorts of "Typhoons" with "Thunderbolts" will start to have a lot of fun and add, what kind of air defense is there, God forbid, your legs quickly carry away. laughing
                      12. Serg koma
                        Serg koma 9 January 2020 02: 46
                        +4
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        only towers in okane you can’t build.

                        [/ Center]
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        God forbid, feet quickly carry away.

                        [Center]
                        And in the "okiyan" they built, and 450 "specialized" raids withstood - they did not carry their legs.
                      13. Catfish
                        Catfish 9 January 2020 09: 16
                        +3
                        Well, about the quality of Japanese concrete, especially outside the metropolis, Morrison wrote, so if they didn't "take their feet", then they were all carried out "feet first" from there. Yes, and these structures do not look like German "towers", rather they look like big bunkers. Although it is interesting, of course, you happen to have no information on what territories the Japanese built these "boxes"? hi
                      14. Serg koma
                        Serg koma 10 January 2020 11: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: Sea Cat
                        Do you happen to have any information on what territories the Japanese built these "boxes" on?

                        Sorry, answering your post, I gave an example of the anti-aircraft floating battery "Don't touch me" (it is exactly in the picture) - as an opportunity to deploy a strong air defense unit at sea.

                        Floating batteries "Do not touch me!" and "Marat" https://topwar.ru/30270-plavuchie-batarei-ne-tron-menya-i-marat.html
                      15. Catfish
                        Catfish 11 January 2020 04: 01
                        +1
                        Colleague, "Don't touch me", and even more "Marat", this is completely from a completely different opera. request smile
                      16. Pane Kohanku
                        Pane Kohanku 9 January 2020 12: 35
                        +1
                        only towers in okane you can’t

                        EMNIP, the British air defense towers decently thrust into the sea off their own coast! drinks
                      17. bubalik
                        6 January 2020 21: 11
                        +4
                        , the psychological effect also takes place to be, a kind of power of the Reich bully
                      18. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 20: 48
                        +3
                        However, no bombing of these towers could do anything, they survived. Look, in the top photo, "Studers" are already on the square, and the tower is like new, although the houses around are also standing. But on the lower one it is clear who the "king of the hill" is. It is a pity it is not clear in which cities the pictures were taken, I heard that such "anti-aircraft" towers were only in Berlin.
                      19. bubalik
                        6 January 2020 20: 57
                        +6

                        In Vienna they still stand.
                      20. Catfish
                        Catfish 6 January 2020 21: 05
                        +2
                        Well, that’s right. To break a simple matter ... and d u r a ts c o e.
                      21. bubalik
                        7 January 2020 18: 17
                        +4
                        Konstantin, here I have questions, maybe you have any guesses.
                        Where did Germany get so much mercury from? Why did they try to deliver it to such volumes at the end of the war in Japan? what
                      22. Catfish
                        Catfish 7 January 2020 18: 23
                        +2
                        Sergei, I do not know where there was so much mercury, I was never interested in this. And as for sending it to Japan, you just need to see what kind of production they are vital. For example, I have no idea, I know that it seems that "explosive mercury" is used in the capsules, but I'm not a chemist, so I'm not an advisor here. request
                      23. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 9 January 2020 15: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: bubalik
                        Where in Germany was so much mercury

                        Clear pepper from Spain and Italy. Almost half of the world's reserves are there.
                        Quote: bubalik
                        why in such volumes they tried to deliver it to Japan at the end of the war

                        The question is interesting. Mercury is used almost everywhere everywhere. recourse Even ship paint was made from it against fouling of the bottom. It seems that the Japanese also tried to do the atomic bomb. By the way, somewhere off the coast of Norway, also Yu 864 at the bottom with a load of mercury was sunk in the 45th.
                      24. voyaka uh
                        voyaka uh 9 January 2020 13: 35
                        0
                        The buildings of these objects killed tens of thousands of prisoners: Soviet prisoners of war, Jews and others.
            2. Arthur 85
              Arthur 85 6 January 2020 21: 33
              +3
              They also scattered mercury with explosives along the bottom, as if something was unclean ... In general, the autonomy of the boat was striking.
          3. knn54
            knn54 6 January 2020 16: 52
            +2
            Sergey. Regarding Platov’s novel, an episode with Canadian nickel trifle transported by a submarine to Germany. Is this a real fact or the author’s speculation?
            1. bubalik
              6 January 2020 17: 20
              +4
              ,,, request I did not come across such information.
      3. Olgovich
        Olgovich 6 January 2020 10: 51
        0
        Quote: bubalik
        HMS "Trenchant" has been watching them for a long time.

        Yes, why chase across the ocean when you know where he’ll come?

        The German is to blame: he had to demand protection from the Japanese, wait out the bad weather, because it was in such places that the enemy was waiting for them ....
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 8 January 2020 17: 08
      +1
      "that the Royal Submarine Fleet in this war did not particularly glorify itself" ////
      ----
      Everything is relative. British submariners drowned hundreds of German, Italian and Japanese ships.
      But with respect to the Germans and Americans - yes, much less.
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 January 2020 05: 22
    +4
    Interesting Facts! Thank you for the article! hi
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 6 January 2020 06: 09
      +4
      Somehow a little wide circle today knows the details of the alliance of Germany and Japan. In this regard, the material is quite informative. To the author - respect. hi
  3. svp67
    svp67 6 January 2020 05: 26
    +4
    “... the German state never ceased to exist, despite the unconditional surrender of Germany in 1945, and what was the property of the German state, unless it was seized and seized by one of the allied powers, still remains the property of the German state ..."
    Well, apparently the court had good reasons to make such a statement, since it’s still not clear to whom at that moment the cargo of Germany or Japan belonged
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 6 January 2020 06: 14
      +5
      The cargo was in a German submarine, there were 20 miles to Penang. The Strait of Malacca ... the whole question is whether the submarine was sunk in a three-mile zone of nationality, although since Singapore is disassembling, it means the boat is not in neutral waters. But its cargo obviously has no actual relation to Japan.
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 January 2020 06: 16
        +2
        Quote: Sea Cat
        But its cargo obviously has no actual relation to Japan.

        Not a fact, there is a lot of evidence that such loads were loaded and carried in the presence and escort of Japanese officers
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 6 January 2020 06: 21
          +2
          It will be necessary to clarify with Sergey whether the Japanese were on this boat. But it is unlikely that it would become known from the rescued sailors. Although there is already a court decision, and, in my opinion, it is fair.
  4. Lunic
    Lunic 6 January 2020 06: 19
    +2
    Very interesting story. I read hard.
    Many thanks to the author.
  5. Free wind
    Free wind 6 January 2020 06: 50
    +2
    It’s interesting where the Hans had hydroacoustics, they found the ship only when they surfaced, they submarized the submarine. And left millions of yap without thermometers smile . Of course, Nemchura threw Yap more than once, take the same story with the Tiger tank, took the money, and forgot to give the goods.
    1. bubalik
      6 January 2020 08: 29
      +6
      ,, I dare to suggest hi the first trip, the new team for only three months of training, and after such a transition, everyone was exhausted and finally relaxed.
    2. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 6 January 2020 11: 13
      +2
      Quote: Free Wind
      It’s interesting and where the Hans had hydroacoustics, they found the ship only when they surfaced,

      And how do you know that the ship was discovered only on ascent? We will never know such subtleties. We have only the fact of the death of the boat, and under what circumstances and what preceded it could only tell the captain of the boat, alas, the dead.
      But the fact of the destruction of the remains of the boat by the Germans is very interesting. After all, someone funded this operation, for what purpose? Is there something to hide? What? Disclosure of secrets must be sought in Germany.
  6. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 6 January 2020 07: 39
    +6
    Thank you, Sergey, for the good story! hi
    Notice, comrades, none of the authors, except bubalik, writes in this genre!
  7. siemens7774
    siemens7774 6 January 2020 12: 33
    +3
    Elegantly played up the court of Singapore to the Germans. Divers cleaned the tails and destroyed the stay of more interesting things on the boat.))
  8. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 6 January 2020 13: 24
    +1
    Thank you author! There is not much information about Japanese-German cooperation ..
  9. Kelwin
    Kelwin 6 January 2020 18: 15
    +1
    Thanks to the author for interesting material, and it was written cool)
  10. sergo1914
    sergo1914 6 January 2020 19: 40
    +2
    90s veterans remember red mercury?
    1. bubalik
      6 January 2020 20: 13
      +2
      ,,, maybe it’s not nonsense as they say about it now, but the Germans really had something under this matter request
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 6 January 2020 20: 18
        0
        Quote: bubalik
        ,,, maybe it’s not nonsense as they say about it now, but the Germans really had something under this matter request


        Oh, play with fire ...
        1. bubalik
          6 January 2020 20: 32
          +3
          ,,, as the camarad said above:
          Those interested can shoot off the head!
          recourse
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 6 January 2020 20: 39
            +2
            Quote: bubalik
            ,,, as the camarad said above:
            Those interested can shoot off the head!
            recourse


            The phrase “red mercury” rhymed well with the word “bumper”. That's all. The article is a plus. But nostalgia ... distracting.
  11. Tochilka
    Tochilka 7 January 2020 10: 13
    +2
    I read with interest. But somehow it’s not economical and dangerous to throw 19 tons of mercury at the bottom of the sea. Yes, and blowing up the boat. It’s clear that the matter is dark.
  12. Tests
    Tests 14 January 2020 22: 55
    +2
    Sea Cat (Konstantin), dear, we can only guess what the court was guided by, claiming that the cargo on the boat lying at the bottom is German. In general, the moment of transfer of ownership of the cargo carried by the sea vessel is specified in the contract, which moment the consignor and the consignee will choose - it depends only on their will, and slightly on the company, that the cargo is insured. And here there was hardly an insurance company, although ....
    I don’t remember where I read that they tried to use mercury in the construction of the first nuclear reactors as a coolant. Although, and chemistry, and non-ferrous metallurgy, and medicine, and electrical engineering. I don’t remember where in 1944 Japan mined gold and silver, maybe mercury was used in the mining of precious metals. About the paint for painting the underwater part of the ships mentioned, for Japan in the subtropics and tropics - the problem was the fouling of the hulls.
  13. Tests
    Tests 14 January 2020 23: 31
    +2
    bubalik (Sergey), dear, many people know about 5 tons of gold from the cruiser "Edinburgh". And the fact that the cruiser "Kent" on 09.12.1943/54/54 came to Loch Eve as part of the RA-XNUMXB convoy from Murmansk with XNUMX tons of gold and silver on board to pay for supplies in excess of the Lend - Lease, many did not hear. The native country and allies still have many mysteries. Maybe our country could get something by the will of Roosevelt "according to the gray scheme" without the approval of the Congress ...
    A few months ago, you gave a very interesting table in the comments regarding Lend-Lease. I was struck by a few numbers. Firstly, in 1942, we sent 26 kg of coc-sagyz seeds, for me it was just a shock. Who and how collected them, and where? Are pioneers in the Middle East and Kazakhstan? The seeds are the lightest! Secondly, in the same year 2 tons of ergot were sent to the allies, so the contamination of our cereal ergot was huge. Thirdly, in 1945 they sent 10 kg of Icelandic spar. Our feldspar is rarely 1 grade, more often 1 grade from the deposits of Yakutia (but I don’t remember before the war it was mined or started production later), and often with impurities of iron and sulfur, which gives a yellow tint. And the most-the most stones in size and transparency are mined near New York, in Mexico and South Africa. That is, logically, our stones were not very interesting to the allies, but the fact is the fact - 10 kg, maybe the shape of the crystals was not ordinary. Where did the Allies need just the polarization of light?
    Thank you very much for the material!