"Motor Sich" discord: how Ukraine has become an arena of confrontation between the US and China

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Empire Gift


It is possible to relate differently to the USSR, but we must admit that the domestic aircraft industry was actually born in the Soviet years. Of course, the industry of the Russian Empire managed at the time to release 76 Ilya Muromets bombers, however, in general, it failed to provide airplanes of different classes during the First World Army. All the more surprising story Motor Sich, which dates back to the 1907 year. The company was founded in the city of Aleksandrovsk, Yekaterinoslav province (its center was Yekaterinoslav - the modern Dnieper). It was engaged in the execution of orders for the civilian market.

World War I forced to master new directions: in 1916, the company manufactured for aviation the first motor is a six-cylinder Deka M-100 with water cooling. This was the beginning of a long journey: it makes no sense to list how many types of engines were produced in the Soviet years. Among other things, the company produced numerous new aircraft and helicopter engines, auxiliary power plants, ground-based gas turbine engines and much more.



In 90, what happened was likely to happen in the face of new realities. You can search for the causes of stagnation indefinitely and name the names of the alleged perpetrators. But is it necessary? The aircraft industry itself is an incredibly expensive thing. Only countries that are very powerful from an economic point of view can pull it, and independent Ukraine was clearly not one of them. In fact, the aircraft industry and aircraft engine turned into a heavy "suitcase without a handle." Neither the change of power, nor even the war here changed anything, and could not change.

And in April 2018, the Security Service of Ukraine carried out searches in the company: stock trading on Ukrainian exchanges was frozen. Then the Ukrainian media began to write about the "raider seizure" and "sabotage". This, of course, did not pass without a trace. At the air show held in France's Le Bourget, Ukraine was presented only with a few mock-ups and a chalet, where small expositions of Antonov and Motor Sich were placed.


Between West and East


Everyone could safely forget about Motor Sich for several or more years: right up to new elections and the next loud political statements. However, now the enterprise has again made itself talk. The occasion is very unusual. In November, a number of large media outlets (in particular, Gazeta.Ru, in their article “The Battle for Engines: What the United States and China Share in Ukraine”) wrote that an international conflict, hidden in a veil of darkness, had flared up around Motor Sich. And not between anyone, but between China and the States!

Reason for all this has become the publication of The Wall Street Journal stating that someone Eric Prince, a private security contractor and unofficial adviser to US President Donald Trump, is in talks to buy Motor Sich. The current president of Ukraine, Vladimir Zelensky, commented on the rumors with restraint. “All I know about this is the thesis that you just said. I also read about it, and I read it at night. I haven’t met anyone, I haven’t spoken to anyone. But this "personal question" should be connected with the president of Ukraine, because Motor Sich is a strategic enterprise. I can’t add anything to this so far, ”said the head of the Ukrainian state.

Recall that earlier, in September 2019, it became known that Chinese companies Skyrizon Aircraft and Xinwei Group acquired more than 50% of Motor Sich shares. At the same time, the Chinese are ready to provide grants in the amount of 100 million dollars to Ukrainian aircraft industry.

I must say, journalists have an original idea of ​​engine building. “A serious struggle for the plant is associated with unique Motor Sich developments, which none of the parties to the trade dispute has,” the newspaper writes. This, of course, is an incredible exaggeration. Yes, Motor Sich produces the D-436 engine, or rather, the family of aircraft gas turbine engines. And they are used, for example, on the Ukrainian An-148, An-158, An-178 aircraft, as well as the Russian Be-200 amphibian. However, D-436 was developed back in the 80: now is a new time and new engines. Billions of dollars are spent on their development in leading countries of the world, without which it is impossible to win the competition for the market, in principle. The Ukrainian aircraft industry does not have that kind of money.


Moreover, it was clear for a long time that Ukrainian engines are not the best in the world. Back in 2011, it became known that Antonov's partner, the Russian leasing company Ilyushin Finance Co, offered the aviation concern to remotorize the An-148, choosing the D-436-148 PW1200G manufactured by the American Pratt & Whitney as an alternative. The Russians calculated that with the help of the PW1200G, it would be possible to reduce the aircraft's fuel consumption by 14%, and the cost of maintaining airworthiness by 20%.

In general, you need to understand that even in the best Soviet years, domestic engines were inferior to the best Western models: both in terms of fuel consumption and resource. Russia wants to change the situation now with its new PD-14. Will it work out is another question.

I have to choose


It is noteworthy that the Newspaper, speaking about the “uniqueness” of the Motor Sich engines, itself gives a more modest assessment in the material. “Those technological solutions in the segment that Ukrainians are ready to offer, the Americans have almost everything. But the purchase of the plant by the Chinese will mean the military and technological strengthening of China in the region, which is extremely disadvantageous for the USA, ”says Roman Gusarov, editor-in-chief of the Avia.ru portal. Recall that China is still experiencing difficulties with its own aircraft engines: and this applies to both civilian and military aircraft. In the latter case, the situation could be positively affected by the supply of a small batch of Russian Su-35С equipped with relatively modern AL-41Ф1С. Even if the copying process was successful, it is only a local success.

Another expert agrees with Roman Gusarov - aviation columnist Dmitry Drozdenko. Noting, for its part, that China is a more profitable partner for the Ukrainians than the United States. “Motor Sich has been working with Beijing for ten years. Therefore, even if they decide to sell the plant, they will make a deal with the Chinese. This guarantees the plant at least continued work at the same level. The fact is that the Americans, having received all the technologies, will either close it or reduce its activity to the level of a local plant. After all, why should the US artificially create competition for itself in the industry? And at Motor Sich, they are well aware of these risks, ”says Drozdenko.


The Americans, however, have a trump card up their sleeve: as a "strategic partner," they can put pressure on Ukraine or, on their part, promise some military preferences. For example, the supply of additional FGM-148 Javelin or other complexes relatively modern by Ukrainian standards. Anyone can benefit from this, except for Motor Sich itself.
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  1. +7
    18 November 2019 05: 26
    Yankees "brothers" shoe 100%.
    1. +5
      18 November 2019 05: 43
      Yankees "brothers" shoe 100%.

      But what kind of brothers are they now ... Ukraine is now a suitcase without a handle ... no one wants to drag it on its hump ... Americans want it to be kept either by Europe or Russia for free.
      1. +2
        18 November 2019 05: 55
        Ukraine can support itself, but it is necessary that the people throw out the current government and put their own, but our "far-sighted" leadership is not capable of such actions, but yes, it can profuse.
        1. +1
          18 November 2019 06: 02
          She can’t support herself under the current inadequate Natsik ... for this, she needs to roll up her sleeves ... but they don’t want to work ... she wants to break into and rob the neighbor’s house in LDNR.
          The people of Ukraine are mostly inert and easily follow those who are bolder ... looking at the inadequate deputies of the Kiev Council it is clear that the people of Ukraine were very unlucky with them.
    2. +4
      18 November 2019 06: 52
      It is in Russia's interests not to strengthen China with technologies that it does not have.
      Accordingly, the purchase of Motor Sich will not strengthen the Americans - they have more advanced technologies in this area.
      Objectively, in this situation, you should wish success to the people of Agent Donald.
      1. mvg
        -6
        18 November 2019 12: 22
        China has all the technologies that Motor Sich has. Although their L-15 are engines from the Motor. Yes, and helicopter too. Ready cost-effective enterprise. With spices.
    3. 0
      19 November 2019 19: 51
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Yankees "brothers" shoe 100%.

      Yes, and the Chinese also shod. And those, and others, first of all, they will bring together all the available technical documentation, and then they will quietly strangle the enterprise.
      It is beneficial for Ukraine and Motor Sich to sell engines, i.e. the products of the enterprise, not the enterprise itself.
  2. +6
    18 November 2019 06: 32
    modern Dnieper

    In Russian - Dnepropetrovsk.
    Authors who write in Russian with a surzhik accent are positively admired.
    1. -11
      18 November 2019 08: 57
      In Russian - Dnepropetrovsk.

      This is not Russian, but Bolshevik.
      Moscow city stands on the Moscow river. This is normal.
      The city of Dnieper stands on the Dnieper River. And this, they say, is not normal.
      The ejection from the name of the surname of the Bolshevik-idiot Petrovsky - one of the direct culprits of the famine of 1933, the conductor of collectivization, and (aha-aha!) Ukrainization of the 1920s is quite fair.
      And the name Dnepr is certainly better than the name "Sicheslav" planned by the Ukronatsik.
      1. +9
        18 November 2019 09: 58
        The original name is Yekaterinoslav, in honor of St. Catherine, the heavenly patroness of Empress Catherine II, at the suggestion of Gregory Potemkin. The city was called so in the years 1776-1796 and 1802-1926. In written sources, the name "Yekaterinoslav" was first mentioned on April 23, 1776 in the report of the Azov governor Vasily Chertkov Grigory Potyomkin, where there is such a phrase: "a project for the construction of the provincial city of Yekaterinoslav on the Kilchen River, not far from its confluence with the Samara River, with a plan, profiles, facades and estimates ”. The city was on the left bank of the Dnieper until 1784. Then the construction was officially transferred to the right bank. The decree of Catherine II of January 22, 1784 says: “To the provincial city under the name Ekaterinoslav to be at the best convenience on the right side of the Dnieper River near Kaydak ...” (meaning New Kodak).

        In 1796-1802, the city was called Novorossiysk. The renaming took place as part of the desire of Emperor Paul I to destroy all sorts of reminders of the activities of his mother, Empress Catherine II. After the death of Paul I, Emperor Alexander I returned to the city in 1802 the former name.
        1. -1
          18 November 2019 11: 03
          Yes, it is quite clear that the most correct name for the city would be Yekaterinoslav.
          Moreover, this name bears in itself not only the glorification of Tsarina Catherine the 2nd, but also the heavenly intercessor St. Great Martyr Catherine.
          And in the central square there should be a monument to Potemkin, and not to Lenin (Lenin has already been demolished, though).
          But the current Svidomites are trying to completely annihilate historical memory and to limit as much as possible any access to historical information - at least to "scream" and intimidate people. Like the Bolsheviks in the 20s and 30s. (Let me remind you that the Bolsheviks banned history, its teaching and the term itself, in general - until 1935, when they decided to restore this area of ​​human knowledge. Yes, this has nothing to do with Marxism and the theory of social justice in general (Marx was in general completely for Knowledge), and was an instrument of social reprogramming. ”Well, these reprogrammed - continue the work of the VKPb.
      2. -5
        18 November 2019 11: 07
        A earnest request to all minusers try to justify its action. bully
        What specifically doesn’t suit you and why.
        Toli is not happy that Moscow is called Moscow ...
        Toli Petrovsky was smart.
        Toli named Sicheslav is better than the Dnieper ...
        1. 0
          19 November 2019 00: 53
          Quote: Private-K
          A earnest request to all minusers try to justify its action. bully
          What specifically doesn’t suit you and why.
          Toli is not happy that Moscow is called Moscow ...
          Toli Petrovsky was smart.
          Toli named Sicheslav is better than the Dnieper ...

          Minus did not set. For example: St. Petersburg (Neva), Saratov, Samara, Ufa, Ulyanovsk, Kazan and even Tver are all in the Volga drain! And only Stalingrad in its name (modern) has the name Volga! And as you Ob. Irtysh, Angara, Yenisei. Lena, the Urals? Although yes, Uralsk is.
      3. 0
        20 November 2019 02: 16
        Moscow is a city. And the river is now called "Moscow River". No confusion.
        The situation with the Dnieper is difficult. It’s just that you can’t rename the Dnieper River. The river is not of the same size as the size of the historical value.
  3. +1
    18 November 2019 06: 57
    If Ze had a mind, then he would restore cooperation with Russia, or would sell (transferred on some terms). The choice is either smart or swine.
    1. +2
      18 November 2019 08: 48
      Ze can have a mind, but no one will let him use it ......... only the strings make the puppet move .......
    2. +4
      18 November 2019 14: 47
      Quote: Alexander Ra
      If Ze had a mind, he would restore cooperation with Russia

      The problem is that the only cooperation that Russia can now agree to is the transfer of production to the territory of the Russian Federation.
      All other options are simply unacceptable, because once we have already stepped on this rake of "cooperation". As a result, the Black Sea Fleet was left without half of the FR of pr. 11356, the commissioning of the third and subsequent FR of pr. 22350 is delayed due to the need to manufacture a completely domestic gas turbine unit.
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    1. 0
      18 November 2019 07: 12
      What a twist. Not bad if it really is. It is necessary to dig open spaces
    2. +2
      18 November 2019 10: 16
      I don’t know who this Ishchenko is, but he said complete nonsense.
      The plant is in place and works, as it worked.
  5. +11
    18 November 2019 07: 27
    Strange presentation from the author ... He mentioned only one family of engines, which is produced on "motor sich". But, if I am not mistaken, there are several of them, and of different types for different types of aircraft and helicopters. And also built-in power plants.
    1. +4
      18 November 2019 07: 57
      Well, we are dumb laughing, soup with bast shoes. We live by the Soviet reserve. The engines are developed by Ivchenko-Progress, which is state-owned. Motor Sich is a serial production. Ownership - JSC.
    2. +5
      18 November 2019 10: 12
      Very large nomenclature
      http://www.motorsich.com/rus/products/
      On the Motor, as it has been called since Soviet times, develop modernized versions of manufactured engines.
  6. KCA
    +2
    18 November 2019 07: 58
    It seems that they said about this Prince on TV that he is an expert in solving such problems - he buys a company that interferes with the USA and, roughly speaking, under its bulldozer
  7. -3
    18 November 2019 08: 17
    Make a sabotage, destroy all the technical documentation on Motor Sich, which can be reached.
  8. +1
    18 November 2019 08: 44
    And the mattresses, and the Chinas, and the local oligarchy tear Ukraine like a jellyfish crab.
  9. +5
    18 November 2019 09: 15
    I live next to the motor. In recent years, the USSR has built large workshops for the production of engines for cruise missiles, as well as a large range of engines for RPGs and MLRS. There are workshops. If there is at least a suspension of the main capacities, then in essence there will be a suspension of the life of a large number of the population.
    1. +3
      18 November 2019 10: 11
      Of course, the production of short-life engines for the x-35 is worth it, they were not even started to be produced even under the Union.
      And now they are preparing, engines for Neptune, he is also preparing to release x35.
      Main production works, repair orders worldwide
    2. 0
      18 November 2019 15: 54
      What RPGs and MLRS?
  10. +2
    18 November 2019 10: 07
    . what happened was likely to happen in the face of new realities.

    What happened?
    Motor Sich survived the 90s, unlike many other defense industry enterprises, quite tolerably.
    And they continued to produce new engines, and they earned money on repairing an army of thousands of engines around the world.
    And now they are working quite normally, not without problems, of course.
  11. +2
    18 November 2019 10: 55
    Communication with aircraft builders has already been lost, with helicopter builders and shipbuilders, communications are being intensely broken .... China needs them so far, and the United States is only for the braking of China.
    1. 0
      18 November 2019 13: 55
      Need to brake, not just China.
      1. +1
        18 November 2019 14: 44
        Well .... here which side to approach. Do you want the Russian Federation to supply Mi8 / 17/24 helicopters and take part in their modernization? Or there will be a Chinese in this niche, and the theater of war will be butted from our market.
        1. -1
          19 November 2019 06: 02
          There are at least two sides. 1. You need to survive in existing conditions. 2. Promotion of the "civilized world" - the road to a general ecological catastrophe and inevitable war. China manages to work both today and in the future. We have temporary workers in our department working to close the "Russia project".
  12. 0
    22 November 2019 12: 20
    As I understand it, from an article in Russia nothing will break off. And the words about the import substitution of Ukrainian engines (not to mention ten years as a still promising PD-14) are only blablab so far.