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Finland initiated the purchase of a new fighter

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The Ministry of Defense of Finland on Thursday initiated the procurement process for a new fighter, sending a request to potential suppliers of a new combat vehicle.




Now a "workhorse" fighter aviation the country is the F-18 Hornet in versions C and D. The Finnish authorities and the military intend to choose a replacement from such types as the American F / A-18, F-35, French Rafale and Swedish Gripen. For the acquisition of one of these models, it is planned to allocate 10 billion euros.

The designated application is an interim. In the final version, it will be filed at the end of the 2020 year. In this case, the decision on procurement will be made by the government in 2021 year.

A potential contract provides for the supply of aircraft, technical and training systems for them, equipment necessary for maintenance, testing facilities, spare parts, as well as weapons and other military systems, construction critical to infrastructure.

The current Hornets were acquired to replace the Saab Draken and MiG-21bis interceptors in the 1992 year; aircraft entered service in the Air Force during the 1995 – 2000 years. The two-seater F-18Ds with training functions were built in the USA, and the single-seater F-18C was assembled by the Patria Finavitec factory in Finland.

Finland initiated the purchase of a new fighter
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 1 November 2019 15: 01
    +5
    It must be so. NATO, so in NATO. If only they wouldn’t piss under the fence. feel
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 1 November 2019 15: 31
      +3
      Under the fence it’s the Baltic states, it’s not for nothing that they were depicted as pissing boys
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 1 November 2019 15: 59
        +6
        A feeding boy is in Brussels! yes Belgium!!!
        But, I - I liked your promise ... there is NATO headquarters! laughing
        Great by the way Symbol - for this organization!
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 2 November 2019 03: 08
          0
          This is not my promise. Now I don’t remember and can’t find it on the network, someone on the world map marked all the countries with some figures. Three boys pissing towards the Baltic States. And hundreds of sculptures of pissing boys.
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 1 November 2019 23: 10
      +1
      In Soviet times, Suomi sat tightly on our equipment (MiG-21, S-125, T-55, T-72, BMP-2, etc.). And now only free timber is taken out. Well, or change to paper ("Snowflake" and others have, basically, the "overlord" there). And the Finnish drunks in St. Petersburg, apparently, return the VAT.
  2. parkello
    parkello 1 November 2019 15: 02
    +5
    hmm ... they are likely to choose Gripen or F-35. I think so. winked
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 November 2019 15: 03
      -2
      Quote: parkello
      hmm ... they are likely to choose Flu or F-35. I think so. winked

      There is still a Saab neighbor fighting something request Just Grippen is
      1. parkello
        parkello 1 November 2019 15: 06
        +4
        this is Gripen winked from SAAB. and by the way, a good car. I think the Finns will do just right. and f-35 is not a plane at all .. a designer, for children .. whoever wants something and hangs on it and let it fly like a pregnant cockroach, it does not bother anyone .. until the first combat laughing
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 1 November 2019 19: 12
          +6
          Quote: parkello
          F-35 is not a plane at all .. the designer, for children .. whoever wants something and hangs on it and let it fly like a pregnant cockroach, it does not bother anyone .. until the first combat

          That's just the Jews on the F-35 fly over Syria and Iraq wherever they want and when they want, they bomb what they want and how they want, and the Persians and hezbalons do not even understand where it flies from, but it flies so that my mother does not cry.
          1. parkello
            parkello 1 November 2019 19: 16
            0
            Well, firstly not over Syria, but they are flying to Lebanon, and secondly, f-35 has not yet flown to the war. why fly there for combat? he has the 4 bomber missiles taking everything aboard .. and in the beast mode they can fly only where there is no good air defense, in such places fly at least on the AN-2 ... even on the Mi-6
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 1 November 2019 19: 30
              +1
              Quote: parkello
              Well, firstly, they are not flying over Syria, but they are flying to Lebanon, and secondly, the f-35 has not yet flown to the war

              And where did the Persians come to Iraq, more than once? From Lebanon no planning bomb is planning, and missiles are far away, through all of Syria and almost all of Iraq to fly. Although American Raptors are still within reach there, I still think that they are Jews, these goals are more important to them, and the Americans are pretty violet. Essno, ayatollahs all blame on the great Satan (USA) and the small Satan (Israel). Essno, no one officially recognized.
              1. parkello
                parkello 1 November 2019 20: 52
                0
                and could even fly to Iraq from Jordan. everyone’s planes are actively taking off there, and many who fly there, along with Israelis and Americans. Belgians for example. there, without control of the airspace (airspace), even the F-16 could. if it flies low with the transponders turned off, then the invisibility will fly unnoticed. Iraq doesn’t have S-300 \ 400. how do they know from whom flew. and to the Persians (Iran) no one has yet violated the air borders. there, just get in ... get knocked down and they won’t ask for the name. the Persians will not look at belonging to that country or another, will bring down nafik. and they have something to bring down. they bought the S-300 for a long time. therefore, a naked plane will not pass to them. there you must first turn off all air defense, and then you can bomb, but this is impossible, they now have strong air defense. I’ll tell you what, don’t believe everything that is written on the resources. they write a lot of things, but from reality it’s all like the Moon from the Earth ...
            2. Professor
              Professor 1 November 2019 20: 41
              +1
              Quote: parkello
              Well, firstly not over Syria, but they are flying to Lebanon, and secondly, f-35 has not yet flown to the war. why fly there for combat? he has the 4 bomber missiles taking everything aboard .. and in the beast mode they can fly only where there is no good air defense, in such places fly at least on the AN-2 ... even on the Mi-6

              Without words.
          2. Quadro
            Quadro 2 November 2019 21: 48
            0
            where they want and when they want, they bomb what they want and how they want, and the Persians and hezbalons don’t even understand where it comes from

            It is very convenient to bomb some Hezbollah without serious air defense and radar, as well as not very technically advanced Persians, a very good indicator. By the way, all these fanatics of stealth and Israel forget something that he is "stealth" only in radio silence and he needs some kind of AWACS aircraft nearby.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 1 November 2019 15: 05
      0
      I agree. I bet on grippin.
      1. knn54
        knn54 1 November 2019 15: 42
        +4
        At Gripen, the training of flight personnel and service personnel takes about 6 months. And it will take 16 - 1,5 years to prepare people for the F-2, and 2,5-3 years for the Rafal.
        Fourth-generation Swedish fighters are much cheaper than competitors.
        Service centers can not be built-Swedes nearby.
        Saved flight resources can be spent on studies
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 1 November 2019 19: 15
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I agree. I bet on grippin.

        Perhaps that. And it seems like neutrality is observed, and the price is similar, and operating costs are lower. Again in the neighborhood.
        But there were times when the Finns flew on the MIGs, and were quite satisfied.
      3. Nycomed
        Nycomed 2 November 2019 10: 05
        0
        I will support you, when the Finns adopted the F-18, I, frankly, was surprised. And "Gripen" is just right.
    3. K-612-O
      K-612-O 1 November 2019 15: 36
      +3
      I’m just leaning towards a super hornet, but I don’t need to reset the Swedish influence, which is quite strong
      1. parkello
        parkello 1 November 2019 15: 40
        +7
        Swedes are more profitable than hornets. firstly they are close there, secondly the car is reliable and a little cheaper than a hornet. in addition, they already know the hornet's cons, and flu is a good plane, and in avionics they are tied to each other. why the Finns in general aviation, who will attack them then? they should be beaten off from them ... as they come, after them in stores like with Gorbachev .. everything is there except for vodka. laughing
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 1 November 2019 16: 08
          +2
          Yes, in Leningrad buzit be healthy, for firewood
          1. parkello
            parkello 1 November 2019 16: 41
            +3
            Andrei, if you could see how they get drunk with us ... and not only them, but also the British, what kind of firewood is there ..?! in shit ... but ... stands at the cash register, legs are parted here and there in different directions and then he starts to apologize for pissing while the turn has reached him .. recourse
    4. den3080
      den3080 1 November 2019 16: 28
      +2
      And this reward goes toooo ... goes tooo ... the United States of America !!
      and applause and behind the envelope rises Donald's spouse, in the light of spotlights, flashes of cameras and ... all that (dress unbutton / couture, etc.)
      10 billion is not such a bad jackpot to get it to some Swedes.
    5. venik
      venik 1 November 2019 18: 21
      +1
      Quote: parkello
      hmm ... they are likely to choose Gripen or F-35. I think so. winked

      ========
      I bet on "Grippen" !!! And then the Finns already Swedish "Dragons" were .....
      1. parkello
        parkello 1 November 2019 18: 28
        +2
        I am also more inclined to believe that the Swedes will push their planes to them. the worst option is rafal..it's not a bad plane, but expensive. and the Finns look at the prices, unlike others ... well, Sweden is there nearby, they can deliver spare parts at any time if needed, and they will have to train pilots near the house. in the morning I left for "work" at home in the evening. request and all in chocolate.
        1. venik
          venik 1 November 2019 18: 31
          +2
          Quote: parkello
          I, too, are more inclined to the fact that the Swedes will push their planes to them

          ========
          So at least two of us! drinks Raise bets? smile
          1. parkello
            parkello 1 November 2019 18: 32
            +1
            how is poker? winked Yes, then we raise tady kanesh))
            1. venik
              venik 1 November 2019 18: 39
              +1
              Quote: parkello
              how is poker? winked Yes, then we raise tady kanesh))

              ========
              It is possible and as in poker - I - FOR !!! drinks
              1. parkello
                parkello 1 November 2019 18: 42
                +1
                drinks Well then, let's flinch ... for luck!
                1. venik
                  venik 1 November 2019 18: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: parkello
                  drinks Well then, let's flinch ... for luck!

                  ======
                  Mutually! drinks
                  The "Griffin", although the machine is not expensive, is quite "at the level" ... And Sweden and Finland are kind of "neutral" ... Well, it's not far to carry spare parts .... And considering that in Finland there is Swedish language - the SECOND state - and the documentation does not need to be translated ..... In general - almost no risk! The rate is RIGHT !!! good
                  Interestingly, WHO will "put" against?
                  1. parkello
                    parkello 1 November 2019 18: 57
                    +1
                    yes who would not bet .. money doesn’t smell wink laughing who wants to bet on rafals or fu-35 .. and we are grudgingly giggling and mocking at their rates lol
                    1. venik
                      venik 1 November 2019 19: 01
                      +1
                      Quote: parkello
                      and we glee so giggle and mock at their rates

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                      good Take off your hat! "Griffons" will take! drinks
                      1. parkello
                        parkello 1 November 2019 19: 07
                        0
                        salt do not forget ..mister Fix laughing
                      2. venik
                        venik 1 November 2019 19: 18
                        +1
                        angry
                        Quote: parkello
                        salt do not forget ..mister Fix laughing

                        =========
                        WHAT FOR? All will not have to chew one!
                        And I'm not Fix, but venik !!! I ask you not to confuse! Azm is touchy and hot-tempered I am! am angry
                      3. parkello
                        parkello 1 November 2019 19: 22
                        +1
                        well, you’re such a touchy Venya ... you yourself won’t eat, but maybe someone else will ... Saakashvili, for example, ate ties and a poor one ... even Borjomi didn’t give him anything to drink. Well, as for Fix, yes ... I remembered something. watched in childhood laughing cool cartoon .. by the way. )
                      4. venik
                        venik 1 November 2019 19: 39
                        +1
                        Quote: parkello
                        Well, what a touchy Venia you are ..

                        =======
                        Actually, I’m not Veniamin, but Vladimir ... And venik is from a facsimile: Vnik... A friend saw it and laughed: So you are Ven-nick! They laughed. I liked it, since then "nik name" and use it!
                        And as for Mishiko (when he chewed his tie), he doesn't have "Borjomi" (too fat!), He would have a glass "brake liquid "presented! It would be just right!
                      5. parkello
                        parkello 1 November 2019 19: 46
                        +1
                        mde-e ... * fussed a beard * etozh how everything is so started that .. Vladimir needs to drink. I have a wine. and I'm drinking (like all Greeks by the way) drinks if anything, blame everything on me .. I'm not used to it) laughing in the morning we will understand
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                      7. parkello
                        parkello 1 November 2019 20: 39
                        +1
                        I will not tease then. I already poured myself .. and not the first glass already. well, tomorrow will be a day too. let's talk more. Well, thanks for the joke, I have not heard it before. although I know a lot of jokes, especially since the USSR. laughing until tomorrow drinks
                      8. venik
                        venik 1 November 2019 20: 58
                        +1
                        Quote: parkello
                        until tomorrow

                        =======
                        Till tomorrow! God will give the day - and give food! And she won’t forget about wine! (This is me out of envy - I’ll go pour a beer (with grief wink ) ....
                      9. Revolver
                        Revolver 1 November 2019 19: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: parkello
                        about Fix then yes ... I remembered something cartoon

                        What will we do now, Mr. Fix? Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix?
                        Do I have a plan? Do I have a plan? Yes, I have a whole bag of excellent plan! I will stole this Fog!
                      10. parkello
                        parkello 1 November 2019 19: 47
                        +1
                        goals bag plan? sprinkle mine too yes ..inch what a greedy ... targets bag and atzin hat mine blow too yes.)) recourse
                  2. Igorpl
                    Igorpl 1 November 2019 23: 12
                    0
                    They can take the 35th to try. Although the Swede is probably more suitable in truth.
  3. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 1 November 2019 15: 04
    +4
    The Finnish authorities and the military intend to choose a replacement from such types as the American F / A-18, F-35, French Rafale and Swedish Gripen.

    The most adequate option is the Gripen or F-16, which for some reason is not on the list. Although the prices are not just biting, they are literally eating up customers recently. It's all crazy.
    For the acquisition of one of these models, it is planned to allocate 10 billion euros.

    For 60-70 boards? belay
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 November 2019 15: 16
      0
      Quote: Sky Strike fighter
      For 60-70 boards?

      Why do they need so much?
    2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 1 November 2019 15: 24
      +3
      There are also weapons, and maintenance, and infrastructure ... In general, it is not very expensive
  4. Pavel57
    Pavel57 1 November 2019 15: 05
    +1
    The Finnish authorities and the military intend to choose a replacement from such types as the American F / A-18, F-35, French Rafale and Swedish Gripen. For the acquisition of one of these models, it is planned to allocate 10 billion euros.

    So their price varies greatly.
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall 1 November 2019 15: 12
      +4
      Quote: Pavel57
      The Finnish authorities and the military intend to choose a replacement from such types as the American F / A-18, F-35, French Rafale and Swedish Gripen. For the acquisition of one of these models, it is planned to allocate 10 billion euros.

      So their price varies greatly.

      Seriously?
  5. ultra
    ultra 1 November 2019 15: 12
    +2
    It is necessary to put pressure on the Finns, or they will buy from us or cut off the supply of wood from us. laughing
  6. Dmitry Gundorov
    Dmitry Gundorov 1 November 2019 15: 34
    0
    They would take super-super block 3
  7. Berkut24
    Berkut24 1 November 2019 16: 57
    0
    We need to tell them not to spend too much. The S-400 shoots all over Finland, from the border to the coast.
    1. Corn
      Corn 1 November 2019 17: 13
      0
      We need to tell them not to spend too much. The S-400 shoots all over Finland, from the border to the coast.
      really solved the problem of curvature of the Earth?
      1. Town Hall
        Town Hall 1 November 2019 17: 16
        +2
        Of course, the earth is flat)
      2. Berkut24
        Berkut24 1 November 2019 17: 51
        -1
        Naturally. Using the A-50, and now the A-100. Otherwise, the Finns will have to fly low-low.
        1. Corn
          Corn 1 November 2019 18: 05
          +1
          Here it is, they not only have to be afraid of the S-400, but also AWACS, which are themselves quite vulnerable, which means there are already "calibers" with "zircons" and tank "fists" will catch up?)))
          However, do you yourself believe in the ability of the a-50 (a-100 so far in the indefinite future) to guide ground-based missiles?
          1. Berkut24
            Berkut24 1 November 2019 18: 20
            +2
            I believe that in the event of a war with Russia, nothing will help the Finns. There is no war only by aviation. As I believe in the fact that if the Finns do not do stupid things, then no Russia will strike at them.
            1. Corn
              Corn 1 November 2019 18: 46
              -2
              I believe that in the event of a war with Russia, nothing will help the Finns.
              Before the Winter War, they thought the same thing, but in the end, something went wrong.
              There is no war only by aviation.
              in the sense of "does not happen"? it’s just the same wars happen quite rarely, but border skirmishes and military operations of varying degrees of turnover occur regularly and constantly.
              For example, a Russian reconnaissance aircraft il38, who flew either near the border in neutral airspace, or violated the border, wandered over Finnish hornet. Or Russian ships, one by one, will begin to slow down. So what? Finland to ruin, uncover “Iskander”?
              - Not. Get off with tomatoes.
              1. Revolver
                Revolver 1 November 2019 19: 49
                +1
                Why do you want to storm the Mannerheim line again? Two times few? Well, go storm ... on a computer. War Thunder kind of plays this landscape.
                1. Quadro
                  Quadro 2 November 2019 21: 52
                  +1
                  Why do you want to storm the Mannerheim line again? Two times few? Well, go storm ... on a computer. War Thunder kind of plays this landscape.

                  Genius, your Mannerheim line was crap in 44-45, as did the "valiant" Finnish army, which was ground with artillery, and try to storm serious fortifications in difficult terrain without serious losses. You bloody knee-elbows got sick, you don't even know a banal story. You go and live in 40, that there are no missiles, no military, nothing, and there is still a mosinka and a T-26 in the army.
              2. Moskovit
                Moskovit 1 November 2019 22: 18
                +1
                You do not compare, as they say, something with a finger. Finland then and now are completely different countries. The Russian army has proved its effectiveness in Syria, if we take it from the recent, but Finnish? Accustomed to live in prosperity and comfort, the Finns are not at all those who steadfastly fought in 39-40. Therefore, the Finns will not shoot anyone down. They perfectly understand how this will end for them.
  8. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 1 November 2019 17: 08
    -1
    F-35 will be without options for shopping carts fit into their defensive concept (any aggression from the outside should cost the aggressor as much as possible). Finns have enough money, they will also buy option B.
    1. Corn
      Corn 1 November 2019 17: 19
      -1
      Not everything is so simple. The Finns were not originally participants in the development program and f35, respectively, for them, these planes will be much more expensive, and they will be pushed to the very end in the delivery line.
      1. lopuhan2006
        lopuhan2006 1 November 2019 21: 28
        -1
        So they are in no hurry) By then, the F-35 will be brought.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 1 November 2019 22: 05
      -1
      Switzerland must make its choice sooner than Finland.
      The choice of the Swiss will affect the Finns. Switzerland, like Finland,
      uses the Hornets.
      1. lopuhan2006
        lopuhan2006 1 November 2019 22: 10
        -1
        Sooo controversial. Rather, the Swedes will want to please. Rafali extras here.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 1 November 2019 23: 02
          -1
          The Finns would be better suited by a plane that did not take part in the tender - Typhoon. It is for gaining dominance in the air and with a large carrying capacity for strikes on the ground.
          But, you see, he was already "buried" by everyone except the Germans. Whom he feeds (creates jobs).
  9. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 2 November 2019 10: 36
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    The Finns would be better suited by a plane that did not take part in the tender - Typhoon. It is for gaining dominance in the air and with a large carrying capacity for strikes on the ground.
    But, you see, he was already "buried" by everyone except the Germans. Whom he feeds (creates jobs).

    Typhoon is going on as a business project, which still meets the requirements of the time, but in fact without prospects, like Rafal for the market is scanty. For small regional states it is too expensive, for the rich as a piece of goods, because geopolitically either mattress mattresses, or China, which has its own, or whatever one may say, Russia.
  10. iouris
    iouris 2 November 2019 12: 16
    0
    What will Finland gain from replacing one obsolete "lyatak" with another? Perhaps the development of aviation has led to the creation of unimprovable systems?