Media: Tajikistan appreciated the presence of the Russian base in 250 million dollars

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Media: Tajikistan appreciated the presence of the Russian base in 250 million dollars

Dushanbe wants to get from Moscow for the 201 military base no less than 250 million dollars a year, experts do not rule out that Russia will have to fulfill these requirements, Kommersant reports.

The fact that the authorities of Tajikistan have estimated the stay of the 201 base on their territory "not less than 250 million dollars a year," said an informed Tajik source close to negotiations on the extension of the lease of this military facility.

The scandal surrounding the presence of 7 thousands of Russian military in Tajikistan broke out last week, after Russia accused the Tajik authorities of putting forward unacceptable conditions for extending the lease base and suspended its funding. The Ministry of Defense of Tajikistan called the position of the Russian Federation "politically incorrect." Even the ministers of defense of the two countries, who met at a meeting of the CIS Council in Kaliningrad, could not bring the situation out of the impasse.

According to a source in the General Staff of the Russian Federation, Tajikistan put forward more than 20 “unclear and unacceptable requirements for Russia” lease bases. They, in particular, relate to the timing of the deployment of the base, the receipt of military equipment and ammunition for it free of charge. Difficulties, he said, arose with the placement of facilities of the 670th aviation groups and the 303rd separate helicopter squadron at the Aini aerodrome - the dispute is about the joint use of objects, means of aviation technical support and equipment.

According to a source in the Central Office of the Russian Ministry of Defense, Russia has not yet received the Tajik version of the draft agreement on the lease of the base, so neither confirm nor deny the figure in 250 million dollars in the Russian military department can not yet.

At the same time, one of the participants in the negotiations from the Russian side expressed outrage at the “clearly overstated” demands of Tajikistan. “This is not about the interests of the Russian Federation alone, but about the general security of the CSTO countries - this is precisely what the presence of Russian troops in Central Asia serves for,” insists the source. “Overpriced numbers taken from the ceiling cannot be the basis for constructive negotiations and are surprising.”

# {weapon} At the same time, yesterday it became known that the Kyrgyz authorities intend to increase the rent for the use of three Russian military facilities - the base of underwater testing - from 2014. weapons in Karakol, the military communications center in Kara-Balta and the radio seismic laboratory in Mailuu-Suu.

In 2014, the lease of these bases ends. Kyrgyzstan is ready to extend it, but on new conditions. “The amount of rent for the Russian bases has not changed since the moment of the conclusion of the contract,” reminded the Minister of Defense of Kyrgyzstan, Major General Talaibek Omuraliev. “Now we will review financial commitments between our departments.”

According to him, the amount of rent for military facilities, with the exception of the airbase in Kant, will be increased to reflect inflation. The air base, the minister explained, is designed to fulfill the tasks of the CSTO, which includes Kyrgyzstan, and therefore Bishkek does not ask for payment for it. Moreover, the general recalled that Kyrgyzstan itself pays more than 300 million soms (230 million rubles) per year for utilities of the air base.

According to the Kyrgyz Defense Ministry, now the Russian Federation is paying about 4,5 million dollars a year for three military facilities. In the offset of the lease is the preparation of the Kyrgyz military in Russian universities, writes "Kommersant".

General Omuraliev insists that by raising rental rates, his country "does not pursue commercial interests." Meanwhile, experts believe that for Tajikistan, and possibly for Kyrgyzstan, the monetary factor has played an important role.

“In Moscow, many people are surprised at how synchronous problems arise in the sphere of military cooperation between the Russian Federation and its partners: from disputes over the lease of the Qabala radar station in Azerbaijan and the suspension of Uzbekistan’s participation in the CSTO to the increase in rental rates by Tajikistan and now Kyrgyzstan. Some see this as the hands of external players, ”explained Alexander Karavayev, deputy general director of the Center for the Study of the Post-Soviet Space of Moscow State University. “But in the conditions of crisis and the absence of substantial sources of income for Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, the Russian military bases for them are not a matter of geopolitics, but of commercial gain. Since Russia has few projects that would tie this part of Central Asia to it, Moscow will have to pay more. It has practically no other mechanisms that would compensate for the withdrawal from this region. ”

Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin suggested that the position of Tajikistan on the deployment of the 201 of the Russian military base could be indirectly influenced by NATO. In his opinion, the position of Tajikistan, as well as of Uzbekistan, which suspended its participation in the CSTO, is due to such a “influence factor” as the presence in Afghanistan of a large military group - the International Security Assistance Force.

In September last year, during the visit of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Medvedev to Tajikistan, the parties agreed to sign an agreement in the first quarter of this year to extend the stay of the 201 th military station in Tajikistan for 49 years. However, then representatives of the Tajik Foreign Ministry said that none of the parties to the negotiation process is not forcing, so the agreement will be signed later.

Later, the Commander-in-Chief of the Land Forces of Russia expressed the opinion that the issue of further deployment of the 2014 of the Russian military base after 201 in Tajikistan has not yet been resolved, since the authorities are making unacceptable demands.

Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, General of the Army Nikolai Makarov said that the Russian Defense Ministry would not allocate funds for the development of the 201 of the Russian military base. “The negotiation process on this base is difficult. But we hope that common sense will still win, ”said Makarov.

He recalled that the two countries had agreed that a protocol on the extension of the agreement on the deployment of the 201-th USRD in Tajikistan after the 2014 year will be signed in the first quarter of the 2012 year. "Unfortunately, it did not happen. Tajikistan suddenly became obstinate, and we were forced to suspend the allocation of funds for the construction of the base until the situation was clarified, ”the general said.

Tajik political scientist Abdugani Mamadazimov said in an interview to the VIEW newspaper that during his September visit to Dushanbe, Dmitry Medvedev did not make arrangements with Tajikistan before announcing the extension of the lease period of the base by 49 years.

201-I RVB has about 6 thousand troops stationed in three garrisons - near the Tajik cities of Dushanbe, Kulyab and Kurgan-Tube. This base is the largest land Russian military base located outside Russia.
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  1. +15
    12 July 2012 11: 39
    I would say - Pack your suitcases, but as we will see, however, adequate answers have already been

    A harsh sentence to Russian pilots came back to mind from migrant workers from Tajikistan. The FMS said it would deport hundreds of illegal Tajiks. Human rights activists believe that such actions Russia massively violates international human rights.
    1. rinzhak
      +7
      12 July 2012 12: 09
      Quote: Vadivak
      I would say - Pack your suitcases, but as we will see, however, adequate answers have already been

      this scene will be just right here -
      when serious guys come, don’t talk about money bully
    2. +20
      12 July 2012 12: 22
      It is strange how one can violate human rights if he spits on the laws of another country and lives in it illegally. fool to send all the Ravshanovs and Dzhamshutovs to their historical homeland, that’s all, or they began to impudently start something, and from the others to demand a return of debts, or else they warmed a snake on his chest.
      1. +10
        12 July 2012 14: 41
        Quote: Joker
        It is strange how one can violate human rights if he spits on the laws of another country and lives in it illegally.


        Human rights activists here are the fifth column, it's time to get used to it
      2. +2
        12 July 2012 19: 07
        I agree completely ... We will pay this amount, but we will expel everyone from Russia. To whom it will only get better ... Although jobs will appear ... angry
        1. +2
          12 July 2012 21: 02
          All Tajiks at ... to the therapist! If you send migrant workers, then there will be a revolution in a month!
      3. lotus04
        +1
        13 July 2012 02: 50
        Quote: Joker
        send all the Ravshans and Dzhamshutov to their historical homeland that's all


        Or let them collect these 250 million and pay the base from their own pockets. An alternative however ....
    3. +6
      12 July 2012 12: 32
      They violate the rights of their citizens in the first place, the question is at least about 5-7 million heads, gastric is still a family that sits on the neck of our state, and according to the decision of the courts, we should support them, but we need it.
      1. +14
        12 July 2012 14: 06
        The presence of migrant workers in Russia has a significant negative impact on all Russians:
        1. The growth of crime.
        2. The growth of corruption.
        3. Withdraw funds from Russia.
        4. Significant pressure on the level of wages in Russia, while the cost of their work does not decrease, because the impudence of their "employers" and the corruption component of the use of their labor eats up all the benefits for the customer from the use of this labor.
        5. Unsanitary conditions.
        6. Additional expenses of the budget (and therefore of our taxes) for the solution of social, sanitary and domestic problems arising from them.
        Any strong state should involve ONLY highly qualified foreign specialists, and not laborers who spit on the language, customs, culture and opinion of the local population, to work in the territory of their country.
        1. General
          -16
          12 July 2012 14: 29
          and who will work the place of these same poor migrant workers? Russians? and they can only drink and smoke and that's it. (no offense, I say what is happening in Russia now, since grade 5, children already smoke and drink)
          1. +19
            12 July 2012 14: 41
            Quote: General
            and who will work the place of these same poor migrant workers? Russians?

            And who worked before that? Really Papuans? And they’re Russian loafers .... as long as Russia exists, so many Russians worked for Papuans, then Australian natives, even penguins, and Russians only smoked hookah and drank vodka ...
            1. General
              +7
              12 July 2012 16: 34
              I’m talking about new Russians and not those who were born and raised in the USSR, the Soviet Union had a completely different upbringing
              1. lotus04
                0
                13 July 2012 02: 58
                Quote: General
                I’m talking about new Russians and not those who were born and raised in the USSR, the Soviet Union had a completely different upbringing


                Well yes! And now they (guest workers) all come here without exception after graduating from the Institute of Noble Maidens!
            2. +11
              12 July 2012 16: 44
              Greetings Victor!
              Still embracing with bears, raspberries were collected in samovars.
              Well, raspberries naturally for brew-s smile

              And indeed, everything in the country, judging by their howls, was built by Asians, Balts and the peoples of the Caucasus.
              Oh we ...... lapotniks are ungrateful. They all plow and plow. They have been raising Russia for the homey for 1000 years ....... and we are not rising .... Ay-ay

              I think that it is time to collect all debts, but to cancel all sorts of benefits to them. You look brain-head will start to think.
              Yes, and respect will be added to the country that actually pulled them from the Middle Ages
              1. +2
                12 July 2012 18: 38
                Quote: volkan
                I think that it is time to collect all debts, but to cancel all sorts of benefits to them. You look brain-head will start to think.

                Andrei, I welcome! But with the return of debts there are just problems, therefore the rent for the WB is growing by leaps and bounds.
                1. +3
                  12 July 2012 18: 53
                  Victor.
                  Unfortunately, it seems to me that this is not only the case.
                  I think our overseas PARTNERS contribute to this.
                  They will force us out and come to our place.
                  No matter how bitterly aware, we are losing Asia.
                  1. +3
                    12 July 2012 20: 46
                    Quote: volkan
                    I think our overseas PARTNERS contribute to this.

                    Andrei, the fact that the State Department intensively buys Bay and Bek, you don’t need to go to the grandmother, so let me ask, there are so many aplomb and requests in the latest statements. So the most interesting thing is that the closer the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, the greater the appetite.
          2. +6
            12 July 2012 14: 56
            Yes, general, the Russians can’t do anything. I go out into the street and wonder, everyone drinks and smokes, and the country continues to flourish, why the hell ???
            1. +7
              12 July 2012 15: 06
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Russians can’t do anything

              You’re mistaken, Marshal, but how do they play balalaikas when they drink and smoke?
              1. +3
                12 July 2012 15: 30
                There is such a thing, but we have more button accordions. Yesterday two button accordions tore, that's what vodka sings laughing
                1. +2
                  12 July 2012 15: 43
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Yesterday two button accordions tore

                  Carefully stretch the fur fellow , and button accordions are not safe if two per day. And what vodka without button accordion. drinks
                  1. +2
                    12 July 2012 15: 51
                    Esther talked about Greek wine, now I’m making contacts, maybe she will really send a bottle of good wine good So vodka is tied up, button accordions are over wassat
                    1. +2
                      12 July 2012 18: 43
                      Quote: Alexander Romanov
                      Esther spoke about Greek wine

                      Sasha, you will open, hang down feel . Without a button accordion, it’s certainly not very good, well, if something is done on the harmonica, tongue .
            2. Sergh
              +9
              12 July 2012 15: 10
              Quote: General
              in Russia, from grade 5, children already smoke and drink

              ... In fact, you have good optics there ..., you see everything. I just went temporarily to get a job (for 50), looking, and there one youth snotty each other took all the places from the milling machine to the programmer, and they only show us the old guys! Although we do not live so badly, it's just boring to sit at home.
              And we drank her "happy" in Siberia both in 70-80-mm, and in three-thousandth as much, but we will collect a rocket with closed eyes in the basement with a sledgehammer and such and such a mother. Do not be sad, friends, we will not let you down, we are such Russian men!
              1. General
                +5
                12 July 2012 16: 35
                rockets you can collect drinks no one argues, I myself am a fan of Russian missiles
                1. +4
                  12 July 2012 17: 47
                  Scrambled Egg Rocket
                  We can do it all Dear wink
                2. erkenegon
                  +1
                  12 July 2012 18: 22
                  quote = General] you can collect missiles; nobody argues, I'm a fan of Russian missiles myself [/ quote]
                  DO NOT TURN ON THE BACK TRANSMISSION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  1. General
                    +3
                    12 July 2012 19: 44
                    I don’t and will not have a reverse gear, I really like Russian-made missiles, but I'm talking about missiles; Iskander, point y, and of course my favorite missile system is a tornado. Also pinocchio
                  2. Yarbay
                    0
                    13 July 2012 07: 19
                    )))))))))))))) erkenegon !!
                    KrasavcheG))
                    A Maybe a maneuver, not a reverse gear))))))))))))))))))))))
                    Wallach you made me laugh)))
                3. lotus04
                  0
                  13 July 2012 03: 08
                  Quote: General
                  I'm a fan of Russian rockets myself


                  I wonder where you are with them faced?
                  1. General
                    +1
                    13 July 2012 13: 51
                    tornado as hail saw with the eyes, the rest on TV
            3. +11
              12 July 2012 15: 24
              And Tajikistan, when they expelled almost all the Russians who all just drink and smoke, about how they got up, changed, is one of the most developed countries lol
            4. +2
              12 July 2012 18: 57

              Alexander Romanov (3)

              Sasha, greetings, friend! Banter - entertaining about the Russian idlers and workaholics of the Tajikiston ...! I want to add a not so humorous, but very eloquent information, as an example of the fact that "Not translated into Russia ..." I read it - like a cold beer on a hot, exhausting day I sipped ...

              http://warfiles.ru/show-9873-broneavtomobil-volk-konvoy-sdelat-za-10-dney.html
              1. +1
                13 July 2012 05: 08
                Hi Valera, in the west, many consider Russia to be a country of drunks, and Tajiks often say so, if now they’re running to the Russians for help. By reference, I saw the article. Valera I hope this will continue!
            5. lotus04
              -2
              13 July 2012 03: 04
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              and the country continues to flourish


              Tell me a secret where this street is (where the country continues to flourish). Is it not ruble by chance?
              1. +3
                13 July 2012 04: 58
                Lotus 04, I have not been to the ruble! And what about this street? Recently there was an article about the Kuril Islands, here there are a lot of photos posted. Watch, enjoy and tie a plump laughing
          3. +2
            12 July 2012 15: 18
            Quote: General
            and who will work the place of these same poor migrant workers? Russians? and they can only drink and smoke and that's it. (no offense, I say what is happening in Russia now, since grade 5, children already smoke and drink)

            Well, then I’m not offended .. These "bad migrant workers" after a month in Russia are already drinking great. I also say what is happening in Russia. I wanted to "thank" for the qualitative growth of the general level of culture in the country with their arrival, then I saw that above all this is indicated by BigLexey
          4. Opertak
            0
            12 July 2012 15: 35
            Quote: General
            and who will work the place of these same poor migrant workers?


            General, instead of Tajiks, Kyrgyz, etc. Germans, French, Italians, Spaniards, Greeks and other European husks will diligently work for us for a piece of bread and a sip of water. The truth is that they have no less problems with sanitation than with Kyrgyz, say, but labor productivity will be higher than that of Tajiks — that's for sure.

            And let them not believe me again, but once again I will say: Our Foreign Ministry and Lavrov are _SHNIKI and enemies of Russia! Mediocre, stupid and lazy, they are only able to stuff their pockets and spit on the interests of Russians abroad. The demands put forward by us are a direct consequence of the unprofessionalism of our Foreign Ministry - he talks with fools with the Papuans as equals, which causes them to have unjustified ambitions and bouts of stupid, unreasonable greed. Yeltsin at one time knowing this, simply PUBLICALLY tapped his bald head with Askar Akayev. Did we have problems with Kyrgyzstan then? Instead of voicing these stupid claims, for $ 250 you can safely change ALL Papuan regimes in a year.
          5. lotus04
            +1
            13 July 2012 02: 55
            Quote: General
            and who will work the place of these same poor migrant workers? Russians? and they can only drink and smoke and that's it. (no offense, I say what is happening in Russia now, since grade 5, children already smoke and drink)


            Good brains soar! Every day I see bukhovyh Tajik and not only janitors, but still buhukh. What the fucked up hell knows. You don’t have to go far, in your yard. (Moscow)
        2. +1
          12 July 2012 15: 33
          4 paragraph is not entirely true, very often they are hired because of hopelessness, the contract must be followed.
          I had experience, the contract was needed at all costs, so we went for dumping.
          5 the same is not true, they themselves are tidier than many of our compatriots, just such working conditions.
    4. ughhh
      +3
      12 July 2012 14: 28
      Maxim Leonidov - Home

      Home-oh-oh, home-oh-oh, home-oh-oh.
      The heart of the northern mountains beats so sweet there
      Oh, oh.
      Again there is endless space behind.
      Behind the night war of foreign cities
      The heat of the salty oceans, tart gardens.
      But I'm already knocking like a crazy motor
      The heart of the northern mountains
      The heart of the northern mountains.

      Oh, oh.
      Southern beauties, wipe away a tear
      Oh, oh.
      Full throttle and the past remained at the bottom of the veil.
      Try to forgive my dry eyes
      I could spit on you that I will write
      But in me already lives like a dumb reproach
      The heart of the northern mountains
      The heart of the northern mountains.

      Oh, oh.
      Shake your wing over the bay, commander!
      Oh, oh.
      And drive in a straight line to the heart of the northern mountains.
      And let the storm play with us,
      Anyway, I know for sure - we will fly
      Because the sea will not reduce us ...
      The heart of the northern mountains
      The heart of the northern mountains.

      Home-oh-oh
      The heart of the northern mountains.

      Home-oh-oh
      The heart of the northern mountains.

      Home-oh-oh
      The heart of the northern mountains.
      1. 755962
        +2
        12 July 2012 18: 50
        In reality, Tajikistan is seriously dependent on Russia, and Moscow has many levers of pressure on Dushanbe, ”P. Mullodzhanov notes.
        A similar point of view is expressed by another Tajik analyst, Rashid Gani Abdullo:
        - Given that Tajikistan is an independent state that has its own specific goals, then if these goals coincide with those of the United States, there should not be any obstacles to cooperation. In this case, of course, it is necessary to comply with all international norms and rules. That is, theoretically, there are no obstacles. From the technical side, there may be some problems, since our transportation capabilities are limited. Our infrastructure is less developed and convenient than in Manas or Uzbekistan. But in reality, from the practical side, ”R.G. Abdullo emphasizes,“ one must think about how this will affect stability in Tajikistan. - According to the expert, Tajikistan may be in the same position that in 1973, after the overthrow of Muhammad Zohirschah, Afghanistan found itself due to the unbalanced influence of the powers on the internal situation. - So far, we have been able to maintain a delicate balance of interests between three and even four forces: Russia, the USA, China and Iran.Here it is an insidious multi-vector policy.
  2. Tirpitz
    +18
    12 July 2012 11: 41
    Let them appreciate the presence of their workers in the Russian Federation, and then they bill, clowns.
    1. +9
      12 July 2012 11: 45
      Quote: Tirpitz
      Let them assess the presence of their workers in the Russian Federation, and then issue invoices


      Already .. In 2011, Tajik migrant workers sent home almost three billion dollars, about 1 million Tajik workers are earning money in Russia.
      1. Tirpitz
        +7
        12 July 2012 12: 10
        that's it. they must now ask several more bases to build on their territory. drinks
      2. +7
        12 July 2012 12: 22
        Quote: Vadivak
        In 2011, Tajik migrant workers sent home nearly three billion dollars

        Good health, Vadim! Rakhmon has something to scratch his turnip, the volume of transfers last year amounted to 45,4 percent of GDP. The previous record was set in 2008, when labor migrants transferred 2,516 billion dollars, or 49 percent of GDP, to Tajikistan. Or he expects the eight-millionth population to feed on rent money ... he will receive 300 millions, he will lose three billion, he clearly has problems with mathematics ..
        1. +4
          12 July 2012 12: 41
          And he (Rakhmon) is up to the star ... he will gain loans, but he has already collected, only China has $ 2 billion, not counting ours and America’s, and will solemnly dump it, but spin as you like.

          And the theme of drug trafficking also takes place ... it is income that does not go through banks, but it will be more.
        2. +4
          12 July 2012 12: 41
          Quote: Tersky
          Good health, Vadim!


          Hi Victor, thanks and you don’t get sick, Rakhmon Babai speculates that the Americans say Pushcha, they will pay ....
          1. +3
            12 July 2012 12: 47
            Quote: Vadivak
            Rahmon Babai speculates the Americans say Pushcha, they will pay ....

            Vadim, let the neighbor, (Karimov-ibn Khatab obtabureth * enombey), take an interest in how they paid him ..
        3. +6
          12 July 2012 14: 10
          Rakhmon is excellent with mathematics .. $ 300 million is his money, which he will properly "cut", but $ 3 billion is the transfers of citizens to their families, whose pockets are not very easy to get into and take them ...
          So he made the right decision ... for himself ... for his beloved!
          1. +4
            12 July 2012 14: 27
            Quote: BigLexey
            Rakhmon is excellent with mathematics .. $ 300 million is his money, which he will properly "cut", but $ 3 billion is the transfers of citizens to their families, whose pockets are not very easy to get into and take them ...

            Your truth, Alex .. +
      3. +2
        12 July 2012 12: 37
        Add the family ... 4-5 lyam goals.
      4. +2
        12 July 2012 12: 52
        Hello, Vadim!
        ... In 2011, Tajik guest workers transferred home almost three billion dollars ....,

        Now count up on this skmme 2% transfer fee
        It turns out about 60 millions - Russia has only with transfers + tax on foreign labor from its kamersant, and since they do not charge social tax on them + all medicine is paid for them, well, + customs duties upon departure.
        Here is such a profit Russia has only from the Tajiks. that's why they don’t bother when they need it, but they turn a blind eye to many things, especially when radical measures are needed
        1. +6
          12 July 2012 14: 45
          Quote: Ruswolf
          Hello, Vadim!


          Hello Alexei, you certainly think correctly, but do not forget that in addition to skullcaps, they also bring drugs here, and this harm cannot be counted
          1. +1
            12 July 2012 19: 33
            Vadim!
            If developed, then this includes fictitious marriages with pensioners and obtaining a residence permit. Here they have it all, everything is according to the law - an oil painting!
  3. +12
    12 July 2012 11: 45
    I will say one thing:
  4. +8
    12 July 2012 11: 50
    send 250 million Tajiks to their homeland and the issue will be resolved positively for Russia.
    1. +13
      12 July 2012 12: 00
      Quote: vorobey
      send 250 millions of Tajiks to their homeland


      According to the census on January 1, 2011, the population of the Republic of Tajikistan reached 7 million 616 thousand people, which means that one in seven (including infants of disabled women and old people) is working in the Russian Federation, and in addition to jokes, 1 million Tajiks in the Russian Federation are all able-bodied people and they still open their mouths ...
      1. +6
        12 July 2012 12: 09
        Just how to do it? If you say get out, they will scatter like cockroaches, I see no way.
        Quote: vorobey
        send 250 millions of Tajiks to their homeland
        1. +5
          12 July 2012 14: 12
          Eugene, if they hide, I will personally call the cop and tell me where to look. I will hand over all with giblets! And there are millions of such conscious citizens in the country laughing
          1. +5
            12 July 2012 14: 18
            Sasha hello comrade. I don’t know about you, but we don’t even have to run after them. Cops survived from all areas of the city, so they are now only sorted by the whole herd. Since no one bothered to clean them. Is it a lie that we will ever be able to bring migration in full order, the country is big.
            1. +5
              12 July 2012 15: 03
              Zhenya, sorting means hehe, what kind of conscious you are, right yourself, to the cars. That's right, just in case, but there are different cases. But seriously, there would be a desire of the state, and in a week there will be complete control.
      2. +6
        12 July 2012 12: 10
        Vadim, I foresaw such an answer and announced the figure intentionally. if there is not enough Tajiks for this amount, then supplement with Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, Afghans. Turkmens, etc. Then all of Asia is thoughtful and agree to feed 201 for free.
        1. +5
          12 July 2012 12: 26
          Quote: vorobey
          I foresaw such an answer and announced the figure intentionally.

          Hi Sasha, you obviously want to ruin Russian Railways laughing , where do you get so many cars?
          1. +7
            12 July 2012 12: 36
            Victor would have been a desire, but there would be wagons.
          2. +8
            12 July 2012 12: 42
            Quote: Tersky
            where do you get so many cars?


            Vitya Stolypin will do, do not hell with pampering
            1. +6
              12 July 2012 12: 50
              Quote: Vadivak
              Tolipinsky fit, do not hell with pampering

              Well, men, since such a thing then oil barrels will do, one color is the same wink so you don’t understand something in fuel oil or something like that ...
          3. +5
            12 July 2012 12: 52
            Quote: Tersky
            where do you get so many cars?

            120 people get into a standard freight car with three-tier placement.
            and if to throw under the bunk - 180-200.
        2. +5
          12 July 2012 12: 35
          The dark people of which take the snow!
          When the Tajik biliter sell tickets on the bus, he still thinks he is taking tribute from Muscovy over the past years!
        3. +5
          12 July 2012 12: 38
          Quote: vorobey
          Vadim, I foresaw such an answer and announced the figure intentionally. e


          Sasha, I understood and simply cited the figures that they are all here, and at home they
          1. +4
            12 July 2012 12: 57
            Their wives and children themselves will build power and will require a base.
    2. erkenegon
      +3
      12 July 2012 17: 45
      250 million Tajiks to their homeland and the issue will be resolved positively for Russia.



      Your words sir wit not shine!
      Quote: vorobey
      send
  5. +4
    12 July 2012 11: 58
    It seems that Russia is a cow that is milked by all and sundry. And is this a cow that cannot give a hoof in the snout or put too greedy on the horns? All I hear is "give" and "pay", but what about our tops, have they got some water in their mouths or are their hands busy with the milking machine?
  6. Captain Vrungel
    +2
    12 July 2012 12: 01
    How much did Tajikistan cost Russia, did it not count? Russia taught you to stand ... st. Apparently it was necessary to teach and s ... t.
    1. +2
      12 July 2012 12: 12
      The last word is not quite understood, is it related to the pacifier?
      1. Captain Vrungel
        +11
        12 July 2012 12: 25
        The second letter "P", further in meaning to the extent of its depravity. I don’t know how anyone, but I had a sediment after serving in the DShMG PV KSAPO, when the inscription was translated to me on the mosque. "Kill the unbeliever and Allah will open the gates to paradise for you." And I realized that you can talk to Muslims of this kind in the international language with the confident, velvety voice of Kalashnikov.
        1. Sergh
          +2
          12 July 2012 14: 42
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          The second letter "P", further in meaning in moderation

          Quite right, in the 70s, Dad used to say this phrase to me, only in a slightly different way: ... a Russian peasant taught a Tajik (Uzbek) wo @ sitting, and after ... wipe woo !!!
          1. erkenegon
            +1
            12 July 2012 17: 50
            Quote: Sergh
            Quite right, in the 70s, Dad used to say this phrase to me, only in a slightly different way: ... a Russian peasant taught a Tajik (Uzbek) wo @ sitting, and after ... wipe woo !!!

            Judging by the fact that you wrote here you are an ill-mannered, not distant person, and moreover, do not dishonor your boor and father! I'm not sure your father could say that! If you are a clown, go to the circus and express your complaints to asshole Rakhmonov !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!1





        2. erkenegon
          0
          12 July 2012 23: 22
          Quote: Captain Vrungel
          The second letter "P", further in meaning to the extent of its depravity. I don’t know how anyone, but I had a sediment after serving in the DShMG PV KSAPO, when the inscription was translated to me on the mosque. "Kill the unbeliever and Allah will open the gates to paradise for you." And I realized that you can talk to Muslims of this kind in the international language with the confident, velvety voice of Kalashnikov.
          You sir believe some donkey ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. If you continue to believe in the future in a word, then with such a baggage of knowledge you will not go far.
          A true Muslim will never turn a weapon against you!







          1. Captain Vrungel
            +1
            13 July 2012 11: 56
            There I did not believe any donkey. There I believed only the PKK and the group. Faith was very expensive. We have met the wrong Muslims. Not with food and medicine, but with weapons and drugs. If I believed you there, God forbid that something was packed in a box, like "two hundred". From the richest experience I can tell you that neither in the East, nor in Arabia, nor in Africa, no one has warm feelings for us. With a wide, benevolent smile, very cold and angry eyes. We are not faithful for them, for the bulk of Muslims. Christian with Muslim are brothers forever. We study history and time will judge us.
      2. 0
        12 July 2012 12: 28
        Quote: vorobey
        The last word is not quite understood, is it related to the pacifier?

        Probably meant, in a big way, standing
    2. erkenegon
      +3
      12 July 2012 18: 28
      After such words ............................ Then you don’t need to cry and yell that the CSTO is falling apart, I’m reading everything, follow the speech., Before me doesn’t come to the point where common people !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. +1
        13 July 2012 01: 05
        erkenegon,

        Commoners always have! ! !

        What pocket 250 million bucks per base for your base will be ???

        Or do we have nowhere to spend our budget on ???
        1. erkenegon
          -1
          13 July 2012 01: 36
          ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!
        2. Yarbay
          0
          13 July 2012 07: 23
          Sergei!!
          Just do not talk about ordinary people and a pocket!
          Just recently found out that about 500 million rubles were cut on Glonnas !!
          And apparently so everywhere !!
          You put the question differently. Do you have anyone to cut the budget for yourself?)))))
          1. +1
            13 July 2012 18: 11
            Yarbay,

            Offer our budget also and you have to cut ?????????
      2. 0
        13 July 2012 03: 19
        erkenegon,

        And we don’t cry for the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) if you think you can handle it yourself and our base is unnecessary for you, well, we’ll remove the trunk with you! ! Our border detachment was bothering you; we removed it; there are no problems!


        You probably already forgot what a fright she appeared there?

        Here will come to you once again the TRUE Muslims will remind you! ! !

        You’ll be bumping yourself! ! !
  7. Senzey
    +1
    12 July 2012 12: 01
    Appetite comes with eating. The neighbors begin to become impudent. So you can stay with nothing.

  8. +2
    12 July 2012 12: 03
    expel or also take from their citizens for staying on the territory of the Russian Federation
  9. soldat1945
    +3
    12 July 2012 12: 04
    Russia has a lot of leverage from tightening control over the entry of Tajik citizens into Russia, to ending support for the Tajik armed forces, which are provided with our weapons at dumping prices, it’s imperative to put in place colleagues, the Russian troops in Tajikistan are Tajikistan’s security.
    1. Perseus
      +1
      12 July 2012 12: 11
      this is of course yes, but I honestly did not think that the ties with these republics (Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Azerbaijan) are so weak, the competent US policy to neutralize our "indestructible" CSTO, I think this will be a lesson for our boobies that we should have gotten closer before just with Ukraine and Belarus, and not bargain with them for half a year at the expense of gas prices, to please the top managers of Gazprom!
  10. +7
    12 July 2012 12: 05
    hmm .... the United States in this regard will always benefit: do you need money? no question, they’ll draw a couple of billion ... sad
  11. +7
    12 July 2012 12: 10
    constant material demands on Russia from all these Central Asian "ravshans and jumshuts" are the result of the vague foreign policy of the leadership of the Russian state in this direction ... more precisely, in the absence of this policy ... Russia at its own expense, namely at the expense of Russian taxpayers depriving their own old people and children ensures the safety of the Central Asian beys, and even has to pay extra for it ... the Americans would have long ago organized a quick and democratic transfer of power in these underdogs to more sane people ...
  12. +3
    12 July 2012 12: 19
    And this is all democracy, her mother! Each pug considers itself equal to an elephant.
    At the same time, forgetting about how an elephant made a shepherd out of this pug. I understand that we are talking about people. But that is the point. That the Tajiks actually occupy jobs in Russia and at the same time send mani to their villages. And after that they still yapping. There is only one way out, to send all the Tajiks to their homeland. All who do not have a permanent residence permit. Temporary registration with them to break and flush the toilet. Then they can think about it. As they say Tit in his hands is better than a duck under the bed!
    In fact, 250 ml per year is not a lot of money for the State, Trifle. But here excuse the matter of principle. First, Azeri akhameli and turned down the cost for the radar, now these children are mountains and steppes ..... Then what? Will they demand a bribe from us for the fact that their gasters in Moscow work?
  13. +2
    12 July 2012 12: 28
    Let the kit ask for a lip-sealer ...
    For that kind of money, it’s cheaper to build from scratch by modern standards in Russia, plus jobs on the base than maintaining old junk and keeping Tajiks. This also applies to Kyrgyzstan. In addition to putting things in order in migration policy, it's simple and effective. It's time for the government to cast aside the illusions, these republics are black holes, no matter how much money is allocated, they all will dissolve. They want the Americans, let them get it, only we will send the Gastrikians to their original homeland with their families, let them get free education and treatment there.
  14. +3
    12 July 2012 12: 38
    Russian military bases carry out the following tasks in Tajikistan:
    Covering the southern borders of the Russian Federation,
    Blocking the possible flows of drug trafficking,
    Ensuring the territorial integrity of Tajikistan,
    Ensuring internal stability in the region (remember, there was still a civil war recently)

    Based on the foregoing, to oblige Tajikistan to pay an annual amount equal to the amount of rent for the base.
    It's simple ...
  15. welder
    +1
    12 July 2012 12: 40
    Well, what's surprising here? For some reason, Russia can afford a `` transshipment point '' in Ulyanovsk, and receive money for it, but Tajikistan cannot ?! Russia does not want, America will be ... Everything is correct ... otherwise it is somehow unfair
    1. 0
      13 July 2012 02: 46
      welder,

      We would not need this base and tries if they could solve their problems themselves and not make them ours! !

      And if the impotent people themselves are in the economy and in the defense of the country, so at least you don’t need to BROWSE! ! !
  16. +5
    12 July 2012 12: 50
    what can convince the Tajiks of the need for a Russian base on its territory? only her conclusion .... they themselves will come running and will pay extra to return, and dispersed the gangs of drug dealers and extremists ... but Russia does not need such problems. Since they are playing "fools", then this should be treated accordingly. Bargain to the last, but take note of such an "ally" ....

    And in order to add a pinch of humor to the discussion, I propose to create a base of Tajik guest workers in the territory of the Russian Federation and take a rental fee from them ... wink
  17. chistii20
    +4
    12 July 2012 12: 53
    A bit of humor In Tajikistan, a strong earthquake killed a lot of people Americans sent 100 million dollars The European Union sent 200 million euros And Russia as humanitarian aid 1000000 million Tajiks
    1. erkenegon
      +1
      12 July 2012 21: 48
      Quote: chistii20
      A bit of humor In Tajikistan, a strong earthquake killed a lot of people Americans sent 100 million dollars The European Union sent 200 million euros And Russia as humanitarian aid 1000000 million Tajiks

      Well, what do you think is funny .................. ???????????? but in my opinion it’s silly and sad
      another one flashed with "wit" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      It’s stupid because I don’t find in your words a little rational grain in your words, sir, it’s sad because, as it were, serious people are talking about ohindeya. When you read this, you just want to get the hell out of here, of course!
      You know what you are lacking only without insults and nothing personal ,,,,,,,,,, PORK!
  18. +4
    12 July 2012 13: 02
    I propose: let the Tajik guest workers pay for our bases. 20% of money transfers to relatives in Tajiks groan.
    1. +1
      12 July 2012 13: 09
      GOOD OFFER. SEND TO SITE PUTIN. VAT FOR EVERY MONEY TRANSFER AMOUNT OF 20%. WE ARE STILL AND WITH A PLUS STOP AFTER ALL PAYMENTS FOR THE BASE.
      1. General
        0
        12 July 2012 14: 35
        this is not a VAT and a transaction tax. Putin will put this money in his pocket
        1. +4
          12 July 2012 15: 14
          Who put Putin in his pocket-yourself? He is not interested in such pennies. Russia at its own expense lives in difference from others.
          1. General
            0
            12 July 2012 16: 37
            you say that Putin takes at least $ 250 million in his pocket?
        2. 0
          12 July 2012 16: 12
          Quote: General
          this is not a VAT and a transaction tax. Putin will put this money in his pocket

          As a financier financier, I ask: what is the system of transferring cash withheld in the form of a "transaction tax" after the bills cross the line of the cashier's window of payment for the transfer to the inner left pocket of Putin's jacket?
          1. 0
            12 July 2012 21: 46
            Quote: Kurkul
            I ask as a financier financier:

            Have you finished Yaroslavl financial?
            1. 0
              12 July 2012 21: 49
              Quote: marshes
              Have you finished Yaroslavl financial?

              To my question can only answer graduates of the Yaroslavl financial?
  19. +2
    12 July 2012 13: 02
    Well, you attacked migrant workers?
    We will send them out and the "world community" will start to howl - it is necessary to sow the Tajik, Uzbek and Kyrgyz lands with poppy seeds, otherwise the peasants cannot earn any other way !!!
    And where is this city going to flow? Again to us !!!
    It is not necessary to send, but to impose a tribute and the entry will be ordered, plus a moratorium on five years for the granting of citizenship.
    Well, something like this.
    1. +4
      12 July 2012 13: 10
      A nekher generally them to draw up citizenship.
      1. +1
        12 July 2012 13: 18
        The law does not prohibit yet.
  20. +1
    12 July 2012 13: 05
    Who would explain what it means to "suspend the allocation of funds for the arrangement of the base"? Is it tantamount to stopping the transfer of money under the agreement in whole or in part. It seems to me that the arrangement includes the supply of food for the XNUMXth contingent and the provision of uniforms.
    1. +3
      12 July 2012 13: 18
      Quote: makano
      arrangement includes food supply

      This is the provision of daily life.

      Arrangement is the construction of new facilities: barracks, dormitories, new landfills, etc.
    2. +1
      12 July 2012 13: 43
      Quote: makano
      Who would explain what it means to "suspend the allocation of funds for the arrangement of the base"?

      Suspension of financing for the construction of real estate and any areas, in other words - suspension of infrastructure development.
      Quote: makano
      Is it tantamount to stop combing money under the contract in whole or in part.

      Not equivalent, it all depends on the terms of the contract. It may indicate the type "The Lessee undertakes to build this and that", or it may be "The Lessee undertakes to maintain and develop the infrastructure properly."
      Quote: makano
      It seems to me that the arrangement also includes the supply of food for the seven thousandth contingent and the provision of uniforms.

      No, this does not concern the Landlord, this is the Tenant's internal "policy" (maybe they eat rice, or maybe they eat bananas).
  21. +4
    12 July 2012 13: 06
    ALL BLACK FOR TRUNDS AND BACK TO CHUCHERIA
  22. Dmitry.V
    +3
    12 July 2012 13: 13
    Wow, our base is worth 5-6 Tajiks. Well, then what if they accept packs of their illegal citizens.
  23. +7
    12 July 2012 13: 44
    Why are you pestering these poor migrant workers.
    To resolve interstate disagreements, the Russian leadership should work more actively with representatives of the elite (clans, groups, etc.) of these states. Today, Russia still has sufficient military and political weight, which allows it to resolve most of the geostrategic issues with the CIS countries. The only thing is whether the Russian leadership really wants to resolve issues that are so important for the country.
    1. +2
      12 July 2012 17: 13
      Well done, keep it up to date. Respect. smile
      1. +2
        12 July 2012 17: 56
        Fair enough. +
      2. +2
        12 July 2012 22: 27
        Glad to. Yes
        But seriously, all these interethnic and interstate misunderstandings clearly do not make our general security stronger.
        Like it or not, we all were once citizens of one country.
  24. Ramon
    0
    12 July 2012 13: 57
    Obviously visible is the provocation on the part of Tajikistan’s bleak fellow, and they were taught to behave like that by no less frowning Tan, these sparing no effort and money are looking for new ways to bite us somehow, the mental disorder of US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should not be denied http: // www.sdelanounih.ru/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/00002cwh.jpg
  25. Ramon
    +8
    12 July 2012 13: 59
    Obviously visible is the provocation from the side of stupid ... Khmyari of Tajikistan, and they were taught to behave like that no less stupid ... Khmyr of Tan, these sparing no effort and money are looking for new ways to at least somehow bite Russia, the mental disorder of US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is not to be denied.
    1. TULSKIY CAMOBAP
      +2
      12 July 2012 15: 29
      Photo 5 ++, the psychiatric hospital has been crying for a long time.
  26. +5
    12 July 2012 14: 00
    You can prohibit any transfers of money to gastric people without an official income statement, without a tax return. The transfer must correspond to the official earnings. This is how the funds for the base will be found. And human rights defenders will not ..... Yes, and transfers (for control) carry out only in the presence of employees of the FMS and tax. Well, and accordingly increase the tax. winkYou can also introduce a tax on the maintenance of the base. good
    1. +1
      12 July 2012 14: 14
      I completely agree, especially about the tax.
  27. sapulid
    +1
    12 July 2012 14: 08
    Why are everyone worried? Normal bargaining. If, Russia pays more, then somewhere it will take more on another. Rakhmon rests on Russian bayonets. Russia, however, needs to have access to the Northern Alliance of Afghanistan to influence NATO in the region. The ligament is inextricable.
  28. +2
    12 July 2012 14: 17
    Something in Tajikistan has long been no coups ...
    1. erkenegon
      0
      13 July 2012 16: 32
      quote = Taka] Something in Tajikistan for a long time there were no coups ... [/ quote]
      ,


      Oops, it means if I understood correctly we are for the coups and where is our valiant moderator who sends me warnings and the federals and the ministry responsible for monitoring
      No one canceled the criminal code about inciting ethnic hatred, and there is a department of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs on extremism ............ and the moderator is looking
  29. ughhh
    +2
    12 July 2012 14: 19
    I think Tajikistan is cheaper to capture and annex to Russia)
  30. +1
    12 July 2012 14: 50
    What a normal bargain in figs! But why didn’t he say 500 million? Amers play very subtly here !!! 100 pounds !!! First we must not let Amer into Ulyanovsk, then block some other elements. And our leaders are dancing under them: here they are, they will give us money for transit through Ulyanovsk. What, all the money has already been plundered from our treasury ?? Or greed again ?? !! What power - such and politics! They spit on us, even Tajiks, and we are silent.
  31. +1
    12 July 2012 15: 05
    Yes, you don’t even need to capture Tajiks, you just need to organize democratic elections in the country, than to dance to the tune of the short-sighted and illiterate Rakhmonov, 90 percent of the population will vote to become a subject of the Russian Federation and even themselves will pay the same 201 RBW (by the way, on whose bayonets and drove into the presidency former tractor driver) .... but you look at Tajikistan and others will reach. where will it go)
    And the fact that you write guest workers, translations .... baby talk, Rakhmonov does not care about them or at all that does not bring income to his personal pocket.
  32. red 015
    +1
    12 July 2012 15: 11
    the Central Asian republics are generally insolent, feel their power or something the amers think they will help, we must begin to pursue a tough policy towards them and their citizens who come to us to earn money
  33. +1
    12 July 2012 15: 18
    We write about 2% of the fees for transfers that remained in the Russian treasury. But what, they all transfer through RUSSIAN MAIL and no one uses WESTERN UNION or commercial private banks? And everyone pays for entry, accommodation, etc.? That's just that , which, although scarce, they eat, they support in some way the Russian producer. And all the benefits. In fact, they begin to count from the minuses, if for good .. But I already wrote about this earlier.
  34. +1
    12 July 2012 15: 23
    Russia, it's time to introduce a list of Rakhmon, Karimov, Atambaev !!!!!
    At the same time, only legal labor migration and legal transfers. Arrangement of the border - possibly together with Kazakhstan.
    The peoples themselves will understand where their buy-ins are and what to do. I don’t think that people have already forgotten the benefits of living peacefully with their neighbors in the former Union.
    1. +1
      12 July 2012 17: 06
      Quote: VadimSt

      Russia, it's time to introduce a list of Rakhmon, Karimov, Atambaev !!!!!

      Atambaev, frequented in Astana.
      So the Kyrgyz are on our side.
  35. 0
    12 July 2012 16: 59
    As I understand it, bidding has begun.
    The Kyrgyz want to join EVRAZ, the condition is to remove the Amerov air base. As I understand it, they agree.
    Now the struggle has begun to be seen between Tajikistan and Uzbekistan, because they are not shining entry.
    Here is the line of despair.
  36. -2
    12 July 2012 17: 02
    Prohibit migrant workers and their import into the country. And goodbye to Tajikistan, long live the revolution.
    1. erkenegon
      +1
      13 July 2012 16: 26
      and this is the overthrow of a legally elected government
      1. Yarbay
        0
        13 July 2012 16: 35
        Call to overthrow))))))
  37. penyvr
    0
    12 July 2012 17: 06
    most likely here again the work of hands ov !!!
  38. penyvr
    0
    12 July 2012 17: 07
    most likely this is again the work of s ov !!
  39. penyvr
    0
    12 July 2012 17: 08
    most likely this is again the work of dirty s !!!
  40. +2
    12 July 2012 17: 59
    250 lemons - big money. It’s easier to exchange Rakhmon’s for a couple of lemons.
  41. +1
    12 July 2012 18: 00
    How many Tajiks from Russia transfer to Tajikistan? It is not the defense ministers who have to decide, but the presidents !!!
  42. erkenegon
    +4
    12 July 2012 18: 01
    I appeal to those who insult people on a national basis !!!!!!!
    If you are so cool, please contact and vilify in the personalities of the heads of state who you are not satisfied with! Otherwise, I will consider you a FASCIST !!!!!!!!!!
    You can minus me personally do not care !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Want to be respected respect first of all yourself
    1. biglow
      -1
      12 July 2012 21: 28
      erkenegon, Asians always strained with a sense of humor. Understand that these are jokes and banter you can not
      1. erkenegon
        0
        12 July 2012 22: 30
        Quote: biglow
        Asians always strained with a sense of humor. Understand that these are jokes and banter you can not

        I’m for your information I’m not Asian, although I don’t have a bad attitude to this word. Moreover, you yourself know that this word has a geographical connotation, but in what context it was written I am really annoying YOU clearly the young man is the 1st.
        2nd As far as my understanding or intellect is concerned, go beyond your competence and do your own business! I hope I popularly stated my point.
    2. -2
      13 July 2012 01: 17
      erkenegon,

      I personally frankly DRAG who you will consider me!

      Respect is not ASS on the fact of birth does not fit!

      And for $ 250 million it will definitely not increase!
      1. erkenegon
        -1
        13 July 2012 01: 32
        like you answer zapadlo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. 0
          13 July 2012 01: 39
          erkenegon,

          Yes, you have nothing worthwhile to answer! In style it can be rude but essentially true! ! !
        2. -1
          13 July 2012 03: 02
          erkenegon,

          West having the richest deposits of mineral resources. Great hydropower potential. (In the north of Tajikistan, in the Sughd region, there is one of the largest silver deposits in the world - Bolshoy Konimansur. Tajikistan is also rich in deposits of precious stones, uranium (according to some sources 16% of the world's reserves), gold, coal, aluminum and polymetallic ores.)

          So, having all this WEST to work for the DAMNED Russians! And beg for 250 million for what they need more than us! ! !
  43. User777
    0
    12 July 2012 18: 20
    Medved, I look, "master" to negotiate laughing

    In short, jokes are jokes, and Russia will have to look for an urgent way out of this situation.
  44. erkenegon
    +2
    12 July 2012 18: 36
    When your government dictated gas prices in the post-Soviet space, where were you smart guys and now the governments are not happy with everything, the people have nothing to do with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HUMILIATING SOMETHING YOU HUMILIATE BEFORE ALL YOURSELF! Think about it, ordinary people have nothing to do with it!
    1. 0
      13 July 2012 01: 43
      erkenegon,

      Well, that somehow humiliates me and I myself will decide!
    2. 0
      13 July 2012 02: 17
      erkenegon
      Think about it, ordinary people have nothing to do with it!


      By the way, these ordinary people - "honest" and "hard-working" taxists, builders ... commit up to 30% of crimes in Russia.
      And they have an advantage in Russia over the Russians - a foreigner, for which Russian will be imprisoned for Tajik Tajik deportation.
      I will tell you in advance the facts I will not, I do not consider it necessary as most Russians see and know this. But I can give an argument
      If this were not so, then the skinheads and the Russian national unity would not arrange terror against them under the slogan "Protection of the Russians", "Whoever comes with a fist from a tank will die" and so on.
      For some reason, there are no problems with Belarusians and Ukrainians (they maximized each other, but it’s a Slavic entertainment, the custom we had a chance and drink beer in the place) - Asians do not understand!
  45. erkenegon
    +3
    12 July 2012 18: 59
    What is the difference between the same simple Tajiks Uzbeks from you that they did you bad, I am not a Tajik and not an Uzbek well, and that I have never vilified anyone from any nationality, Be Guys and not a rag, I’m ashamed of you for God! And also officers, Officers have the concept of HONOR! REMEMBER and do not stoop to baseness!
    NO OFFENSE!
    1. +4
      12 July 2012 20: 32
      erkenegon,
      Brother, do not be offended, we are on their "field." What will their media say - FAS and we are in ...
      1. erkenegon
        +2
        12 July 2012 21: 30
        marshes,
        Thank you for understanding!
        1. +4
          12 July 2012 21: 49
          In general, I have a desire-What would the Russian media forget about Kazakhstan. smile
    2. biglow
      +3
      12 July 2012 21: 32
      erkenegon,
      it would be very wonderful for the Uzbeks and Tajiks to live at home and sleep in their beds and not in the vastness of Russia in a one-room apartment of 25 people and there would be no problems
      1. erkenegon
        0
        12 July 2012 22: 18
        it would be very wonderful for the Uzbeks and Tajiks to live at home and sleep in their beds and not in the vastness of Russia in a one-room apartment of 25 people and there would be no problems


        Away is good and at home it’s better — these words are familiar as never before, and who is to blame for the clear pepper of the government of these countries!
        Not because of the good life, they "tour" the CIS countries. If there are problems, then you need to squeeze the government, but as gentlemen at the top, they certainly know without harming ordinary people!
        Best regards
        1. 0
          13 July 2012 02: 12
          erkenegon,

          I would even say that it would be good for us if they lived at home!

          And what are they getting out of here and not PRESSING their government ?????
    3. +1
      13 July 2012 02: 32
      erkenegon,

      Russian in their own subdued and even how to subdue! ! ! Those same commoners drove out! ! ! We saw them plundered and oppressed! ! !

      And now come to the damned oppressors to earn! ! !
      Now we don’t rob them! Weal rich at home! ! !
    4. +2
      13 July 2012 03: 53
      erkenegon,

      Don’t push on honor! When these simple Tajiks under the ass with a Russian foot drove from the country thought of honor ???

      Or only Russians should remember the honor of being kind, generous (at the expense of their people)! ???

      What kind of friends and brothers we have !? Cried that in the union we robbed them, but in fact it turned out that there’s nothing to rob! Some of us are hired and beg, others beg and steal gas, and at the same time RESPECT is required! ! !

      And we don’t have to complain about your elites! You elected them yourself! Choose others! !

      It’s not our fault that your elites have a place to ask to invest in some kind of project to build something of the mind, you just have to beg for what people with the concept of HONOR would be ashamed to beg! !
      1. +2
        13 July 2012 18: 14
        What pogantsi except minuses there is nothing to answer ?????????
  46. +3
    12 July 2012 20: 37
    At the expense of all members of the forum.
    I’m probably the only one who shook hands with Ahmad Shahmasud. smile
    Although he knew that my father was there ...
    1. +2
      12 July 2012 20: 47
      [media = http: //youtu.be/Sw91Ncb6PeY]
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      13 July 2012 16: 15
      Not the only one))
  47. +4
    12 July 2012 22: 41
    Calm men. It’s not worth joking about migrant workers. The guys honestly (most) earn and support their families, for which they honor and praise. I had to watch how they get this money. So do not scream and demand immediate deportation. Those who came to work have absolutely nothing to do with politics. And they are just as powerless in their own country as we are in our own country. Do a lot of us listen to leadership when making decisions? Do we have that all polls approve WTO accession? That's it. This issue should be decided by a person endowed with power and having the right to do so, and this is the president. But something so far the GDP did not show any trump cards to Rakhmon. So there is no problem there. Everything will be decided in due time. Sincerely.
    1. +1
      13 July 2012 01: 35
      suharev-52,

      And here is lawlessness and plow in the vastness of Russia?

      Our "EFFICIENT MANAGEMENT" business created a trough for them not wanting to pay their decent salaries!

      For a decent salary, our asinizers will work!
      And they’ll hoe cotton fields home! ! ! They dressed the whole union, and now they have nowhere to work for them !?
      1. 0
        13 July 2012 03: 26
        Hi Sergey!
        I fully support!
        A good specialist, and at home with business!
        Ships go to those who do not care where, by whom, how and when!
        Quality does not interest them either. Season worked - left, but Russia is big! Today I worked here, next time in another region!
        Minibus drivers have already come across this. For 2011god, almost 70% of gazelles were gouged out.
        Just business profitable. Considering that, according to the law, they do not pay tax on them to the pension fund and social insurance (which is almost 30% of the accrual), they can increase the salary of gastrams by 20% more than the Russian, and they agree to demand work on 200%, the entrepreneur is in profit, Russian in the village.
        And this is another loophole for nationalist supporters. And again, Rusa is to blame.
  48. erkenegon
    0
    12 July 2012 23: 08
    Quote: suharev-52
    Calm men. It’s not worth joking about migrant workers. The guys honestly (most) earn and support their families, for which they honor and praise. I had to watch how they get this money. So do not scream and demand immediate deportation. Those who came to work have absolutely nothing to do with politics. And they are just as powerless in their own country as we are in our own country. Do a lot of us listen to leadership when making decisions? Do we have that all polls approve WTO accession? That's it. This issue should be decided by a person endowed with power and having the right to do so, and this is the president. But something so far the GDP did not show any trump cards to Rakhmon. So there is no problem there. Everything will be decided in due time. Sincerely.

    But these are worthy words of a self-respecting officer !!!!!!!!!!!!! + and I shake hands







  49. NickitaDembelnulsa
    +1
    13 July 2012 05: 12
    What Tajikistan does not exist. And in the event of the outbreak of hostilities in their territory, someone will protect you. Maybe NATO. Remember that your old allies complicate life.
  50. +1
    13 July 2012 05: 45
    erkenegon,
    Why are you so crazy?
    clown starry ept!
    sit don't stink
    1. erkenegon
      -1
      13 July 2012 14: 54
      [quote = afire] why are you out of your mind? clown starry ept! sit don't stink

      Hi Futsin with people like you, I always had a short conversation ,,,,,,,,,,,,, choose
      1. If you want, I’ll call you on fuck
      2. Went to wash a point
      If you appoint a shooter, you come and see which of the two of us crows, Chuvirlo is uncouth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. erkenegon
        -1
        13 July 2012 15: 06
        I ask for attention here, one comrade apologized and expressed the opinion that it would not happen again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        We will wait for what he himself will say about this
    2. erkenegon
      +1
      13 July 2012 16: 08
      then I think where this fraerok came from did not get dusty ........... it turns out on the forum there was such an article "Libya is a trap for Assad" I in my comment split one smart one under the nickname David, Hai, Abboszoda and now "afire"!
      Here on the forum they talked about rats, and in the area they let the cockerels drop them into the common people. So I think that maybe he’s worried and we’ll send him wherever we are.
  51. 0
    13 July 2012 10: 27
    The quote - the free receipt of military ground equipment and ammunition for it - this clearly shows that this could not have happened without Western consultants. Eco, they are cute and quick to harness. And give us money, and equipment with ammunition. And we are also adding to their burden in the form of a bonus, guest workers in freight cars, and a ban on money transfers from Russia
  52. erkenegon
    -1
    13 July 2012 15: 25
    All these topics about Iran and Syria are not interesting to me. It’s better to discuss this topic: can Russia one-on-one crush the United States?!
    Waiting for feedback
  53. erkenegon
    +1
    13 July 2012 16: 46
    Then the moderator sent me a warning saying that this is not the way to respond to insults in response to a call for calls about coups in sovereign states, then one tried to publicly try to insult me, I decided to stand up for myself, they say it’s impossible, dear, it’s impossible! They don’t like Ukraine, Tojikistan is corrupt, Uzbekistan is on the verge of offending Azerbaijan Poor Armenia, Kazakhstan is in conflict with America, Georgia supposedly has gone completely crazy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, but poor mother Russia, everyone is up in arms, no one in the whole world remembers the goodness of you, ungrateful people say, how long!
    Think about why the countries of the former commonwealth are fleeing and most importantly why they are fleeing and why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Honestly, you want to ban me, no problem, but you won’t be able to shut me up, you ran into the wrong guy
  54. Yarbay
    +1
    13 July 2012 17: 23
    Here they think that they are running because they are corrupt!!
    Or rather, we are convinced of it!
    Not all of course, but many!
    1. -1
      13 July 2012 18: 17
      Oh, what the hell, and they also say that they are on our field and our comments are all banned!!!!!

      I’ll tell you straight out your out-of-town opinion, I don’t give a fuck! ! ! !
  55. 0
    14 February 2018 23: 52
    Wonderful. Who needs military bases more, if next to these states there is Afghanistan, infested with terrorists. In addition, the CSTO was created largely to protect the same Central Asian countries and here are such shameless demands.