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“They mock”: Sohu praised Russia's response to the American “mother of all bombs”

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As you know, the United States of America today is not only the first economy in the world, but also has a strong army, writes the Chinese edition Sohu... Russia ranks second in terms of military power, while being far behind in economic power. Ironically, with a much more meager defense budget, the Russians manage to effectively compete with the Americans in the field of advanced armory developments, in some ways even ahead of them.




For example, in the early 2000s, a gigantic aviation ammunition called the “Mother of all bombs”. GBU-43 / B Massive Ordnance Air Blast (MOAB) is the most powerful non-nuclear weapon ever made by Americans. The explosive, known as H6, consists of TNT, RDX, nitrocellulose and powdered aluminum.


With a warhead weight of 8,5 tons, the explosion power is 11 tons of TNT. The temperature at the epicenter of the explosion reaches 1500 degrees Celsius. The shock wave partially hits the enemy within a radius of one kilometer.

In Russia, they took a different technological path in the determination to create an even more powerful conventional ammunition. So it turned out AVBPM - Aircraft vacuum bomb with increased power. In September 2007 of the year, on the air of the Russian state television channel, footage of the tests of this ammunition was shown.


The principle of operation of the bomb is to spray a high-energy aerosol over the area with its subsequent detonation. It is alleged that the explosion power reaches 44 tons of TNT, which is 4 times higher than the capabilities of the American GBU-43 / B bomb. The temperature at the center of the explosion is about 3000 ° C, and the radius of total destruction is 300 meters.

Thus, the creation of the “Pope of All Bombs” in Russia mocked the Americans, writes Sohu, as if hinting that the Russians will always have a threaded bolt on any tricky nut.
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  1. Sarduor
    Sarduor 3 October 2019 18: 08
    0
    Like in Syria used?
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 3 October 2019 18: 14
      +22
      Quote: Sarduor
      Like in Syria used?

      Stripes that year, used the mother’s bomb, in Afghanistan against the igil, there were minor consequences from that bomb.
      1. poquello
        poquello 3 October 2019 18: 49
        +7
        Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        Quote: Sarduor
        Like in Syria used?

        Stripes that year, used the mother’s bomb, in Afghanistan against the igil, there were minor consequences from that bomb.

        their path is such a "housekeeper made vodka", how can they not apply so the effect is several times lower than expected
      2. KCA
        KCA 3 October 2019 19: 14
        +13
        In the mountains and caves "papa" would be 100 times more efficient than GBU43
      3. Zefr
        Zefr 4 October 2019 11: 45
        -2
        Well, they would blow up, somewhere in the mountains, a truck with explosives (11 tons). The same as this bomb.
        What effect should there be?
        1. Yngvar
          Yngvar 4 October 2019 16: 30
          +5
          In Afghanistan, the Su-19 entered the gorge and simply turned on the afterburner ... The "Spirits" not only underwent a collapse, but also those who survived, completely deafened and shell-shocked, had blood from their ears!
          And you say 11tn ... There would be an echo along the gorge for more than one kilometer, and the radius of the guaranteed defeat would be much more than 300 meters!
          1. vkfriendly
            vkfriendly 2 November 2019 17: 32
            0
            My brother, after studying at the Frunze Academy, where he entered as a major in the border troops, underwent an internship as he joked in 1985 in Afghanistan and said that a vacuum bomb was used there in the gorges "frost" seems to be we have it or something similar to it.
      4. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 5 October 2019 20: 40
        0
        volumetric explosion of liquid gas has passed tests in urban conditions - there is no more town
    2. Kontrik
      Kontrik 3 October 2019 18: 15
      +17
      Russia ranks second in military power, while greatly inferior in economic power.

      And we have always had this in our history of survival in the world ..
      "Need for invention is cunning ..!"
      Chip Russian, this is simplicity, efficiency and all kinds of bespont .. hi
      And surprises gentlemen, you are still waiting for the unexpected in the near future ..
      You can already take your own AUGs for scrap, no one is afraid of them
      You angered the Russians in earnest ..
      1. ROSS_51
        ROSS_51 4 October 2019 00: 04
        +18
        What does it mean-Golna fiction tricky? What simplicity? A vacuum bomb is an order of magnitude more technologically advanced than stupidly stuffing a large, large piece of pipe with explosives.
        The American defense industry is primarily for profit.
      2. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 4 October 2019 04: 13
        +9
        It turns out that China has already begun to trump the United States with friendship with Russia.
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 5 October 2019 12: 45
        0
        I agree! A threaded bolt (at all times) is our everything, that's why they are afraid of us! Well done developers.
    3. Dietmar
      Dietmar 3 October 2019 18: 18
      +4
      If they were used (according to unverified data), then, most likely, as a demonstration of capabilities. As, for example, they zhahnuli "Caliber" from the Caspian Sea.
    4. Observer2014
      Observer2014 3 October 2019 19: 11
      -16
      No. Not applied. If I am mistaken, publish the source please. And in general, not twenty years have passed since they remembered about "Daddy of all bombs" Was there a boy? The Syrian conflict, like no other, was suitable for the use of this munition. Was it a pity for our desert? Or not humanely, for example, multiply the barmaley base by zero with one bomb. Is it necessary to operate with other more "humane" means?
      1. Leopold
        Leopold 3 October 2019 19: 37
        +13
        We have something else. On a cunning ass with nooks and crannies there is a flashlight with batteries.
        Break through tomorrow. good
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 3 October 2019 19: 46
          -23
          Well, the fact that we will break through somewhere no one argues. Only a flashlight for looping in the "tricky priest with nooks and crannies" is different. One is modern. Modern. Highly effective .. And the other, as always
          True, how else to look at these loops. And can we afford these loops. Or maybe there is another way of development.?
          1. Leopold
            Leopold 3 October 2019 19: 49
            +13
            I wrote - with "BATTERIES". The bug is out of business.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 3 October 2019 19: 56
              -22
              Immediately you can see a person who is poorly prepared for looping in a "cunning priest with nooks and crannies" With this we will definitely get lost there. The batteries will die while an irreplaceable guide has been dragging along those nooks for decades. laughing
              1. Leopold
                Leopold 3 October 2019 20: 01
                +16
                If I post the entire line of folklore, then at best they will put them in a bathhouse for a month. And I am already "broken". But you, namesake, I would advise you from old memory not to run into trouble if you do not know with whom you are dealing. Or you don’t suppose. And in terms of electricity, I can give you any odds, I have the highest energy.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 3 October 2019 20: 57
                  +4
                  In welcome! hi As the grandmother whispered, energy you understand a thing ... lol
                  1. Leopold
                    Leopold 3 October 2019 21: 23
                    +9
                    Victor, glad to see you hi One hundred years, one hundred winters. drinks Your grandmother (who whispered) is gifted. For energy, and now the battle is on. People are not used to warming themselves around the fire, they need the Internet. I am not against progress, I am against forgetting the past. And it may be needed. At least make tea at the stake and prepare food. A survivor with skills.
                2. Avalex
                  Avalex 4 October 2019 08: 53
                  0
                  Energetic?
          2. NN52
            NN52 3 October 2019 19: 56
            +10
            Observer2014 (Sergey)

            Sorry ... but you have no other way of development ...
            We will deal with loops without you.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 3 October 2019 20: 09
              -21
              Yeah, you’ll figure it out. You’re direct specialists in the looping in the "back streets". laughing . Years in 300. Probably you will understand? : So it's better that "bug" And zip, zip through the back streets.: You propose a long way and pull along. In general, good luck with the looping laughing
              1. NN52
                NN52 3 October 2019 20: 12
                +10
                Well ... your path is definitely not close ...
          3. Karabas
            Karabas 4 October 2019 11: 56
            +2
            I had such a flashlight in my childhood. Only white. I asked my grandfather to buy it. smile
        2. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 4 October 2019 06: 31
          +2
          Quote: Leopold
          On a cunning ass with nooks and crannies there is a flashlight with batteries.

          And GLONASS.
      2. NN52
        NN52 3 October 2019 20: 02
        +9
        Observer2014
        And yours, who is this?
        1. Observer2014
          Observer2014 3 October 2019 21: 17
          -11
          NN52 (Dmitry)
          Observer2014
          And yours, who is this?
          You! laughing
          Observer 2014 (Sergey) October 3, 2015 13:38
          +128
          We look forward to the presentation of the "dad of all bombs".
          Pay attention to the date. And then suddenly you are still not observant. feel laughing
          1. Leopold
            Leopold 3 October 2019 22: 36
            +9
            Sergey, have you become calmer even though ammunition is becoming more powerful? Well, how to use the neighboring facility, and you will not have time to get involved. Even from non-nuclear. I'm annoying. Will I manage to save my family? But I want to.
            1. Observer2014
              Observer2014 3 October 2019 22: 52
              -10
              Leopold (Sergey) Today, 22:36

              Sergey, have you become calmer even though ammunition is becoming more powerful? Well, how to use the neighboring facility, and you will not have time to get involved. Even from non-nuclear. I'm annoying. I will have time
              It's okay. But then you have time to do each other pleasant likes laughing Do you even understand Vyacheslav about what we were talking about here? Relax. For you, a strategist with a non-nuclear high-power charge will definitely not be chased. wink Nothing, you take revenge with your same friends, likes laughing
              1. Leopold
                Leopold 3 October 2019 23: 01
                +9
                Sergey, well, do not rush to answer. My name near nickname is namesake I, not Vyacheslav. For the likes, I’m definitely in charge. With whom I’m talking, I try to refrain from emotions and not deliberate actions. Revenge of the Army General in the current order on the site is a meaningless undertaking. I assure you that I won’t go for it, but I don’t understand the claims for this. Your minuses will soon return me to majors than I can somehow harm you. It’s clear here. I try not to make senseless acts. yes
              2. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 3 October 2019 23: 14
                -1
                Alexander, overdid it with alcohol?
                1. Leopold
                  Leopold 3 October 2019 23: 57
                  +4
                  Alexey hi Thank you, I have not laughed like this for a long time. good
      3. poquello
        poquello 3 October 2019 20: 25
        +4
        Quote: Observer2014
        The Syrian conflict was more suitable than the use of this ammunition. Was our desert a pity?

        logic, however, since it’s not a pity for the desert, it’s necessary to drag a farting fart to destroy the base that was destroyed by regular and relevant means
      4. businessv
        businessv 4 October 2019 00: 25
        +2
        Quote: Observer2014
        Or not humanely with one bomb, for example, multiply the base of barmaley by zero.

        Our chip in Syria is to destroy only barmalei, and not all in a row, as the whales do. The pope’s total destruction zone is 300 meters, according to any one of the civilians comes across. Solntsepek, Pinocchio accurately used.
      5. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 4 October 2019 04: 17
        +1
        Barmolev can be multiplied to zero by WWII ammunition. The Hephaestus system allows you to do this, why waste expensive ammunition.
      6. GAF
        GAF 4 October 2019 18: 01
        0
        Quote: Observer2014
        No, they didn’t apply. If I am mistaken, publish the source

        I’m unlikely to find the source after years (in the 15-16th years). There was a video without detailed commentary on the strike in Syria, apparently of a vacuum bomb on barmaley. The frames show Dell and on its sides at elevations with dozens of simultaneous emissions of flame torches. Obviously the bomb plunged into the network of underground utilities, detonated and the infernal mixture escaped at the exits from the subway. It seems that the center of the hollow was without visible damage ...
    5. venik
      venik 3 October 2019 22: 00
      +1
      Quote: Sarduor
      Like in Syria used?

      =======
      No! Threw at the landfill.
    6. vkl.47
      vkl.47 4 October 2019 09: 19
      +1
      Judging by the composition of the American bomb, they forgot to add silica and magnesium there. We know such bombs))
    7. yehat
      yehat 4 October 2019 11: 40
      0
      I heard 2 such blown up in Chechnya
  2. Prisoner
    Prisoner 3 October 2019 18: 10
    +5
    They are able to ours! As they say, the goal of invention is cunning. But what touches is the statement on environmental safety. laughing Apparently environmental safety for some is that the ecosystem in a fairly large area is not banged by radiation, but by something else. winked
  3. parkello
    parkello 3 October 2019 18: 11
    0
    Ketaysi giggled into the fist. So meanly-disgusting .. like a badhead from an eM-TV movie lol
  4. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 3 October 2019 18: 11
    +2
    Even the video shows that our daddy is much more powerful and efficient than their mother. Well done, our experts in this field, they showed a decent answer.
    1. dauria
      dauria 3 October 2019 22: 21
      +1
      Even the video shows that our daddy is much more powerful and efficient than their mother.


      Bombs of different types, for different purposes. Our volume-detonating type, oxygen is air oxidizer. Therefore, the explosion is more powerful with the same mass.
      The American one is designed for particularly fortified targets (thick concrete, metal, bunkers), where 500 kg fugas can not be broken. But the goals of such a cat wept.
      In most cases, our bomb will be replaced by cluster munitions (infantry in the trenches), or a large number of medium bombs of 250 kg each (infantry in urban buildings with basements). And even with the best mass efficiency.
      1. garri-lin
        garri-lin 3 October 2019 22: 45
        -1
        What is thick concrete? There the body is not metal. High impact only.
  5. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 3 October 2019 18: 12
    +10
    Russians are able to effectively compete with the Americans in the field of advanced weapons developments, in some ways even ahead of them.

    This phrase "in something" smiled at me .... This "something" is already a wagon and a small cart. laughing
    for any tricky nut, Russians always have a threaded bolt

    Well ... the original idiom of the expression has been smoothed .. But ...
    There, there will be .... And if there are no threads in the nut (or in the anus), the Russians will cut it. laughing
    1. Leopold
      Leopold 3 October 2019 19: 40
      +8
      Basil hi Laid out a little higher, but that's not all. I know that there is a continuation.
  6. garri-lin
    garri-lin 3 October 2019 18: 13
    +2
    Somewhere they write a radius of continuous defeat of 300. In other places, 500.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2019 18: 56
      +2
      And it depends on the size of the pieces of minced meat obtained as a result of the BP work: if the minced meat is coarser, then 500 - well, and the quality of the frying ... lol
      1. Leopold
        Leopold 3 October 2019 19: 42
        +8
        "Bambarbia! Kirgudu!" Joke. good
      2. garri-lin
        garri-lin 3 October 2019 19: 43
        +1
        Rather, the charcoal / scrap ratio.
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 October 2019 18: 14
    0
    We could scoff if such a bomb were "lost" in the territory of the United States, otherwise we just take care of our sufficient and effective defense capability. ...
  8. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 3 October 2019 18: 22
    0
    Much more necessary are bombs deeply buried underground.
    With penetration of concrete deep under a layer of rock and subsequent blasting.
    One surface or air explosion can be replaced by several less powerful ones. Quantity goes into quality.
    And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.
    1. D16
      D16 3 October 2019 18: 41
      +17
      And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.

      Dad explodes above the ground. He has a completely different purpose. All sorts of bombs are needed.
    2. poquello
      poquello 3 October 2019 18: 55
      -1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Much more necessary are bombs deeply buried underground.
      With penetration of concrete deep under a layer of rock and subsequent blasting.
      One surface or air explosion can be replaced by several less powerful ones. Quantity goes into quality.
      And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.

      during the spread of such bombs, the layer of protective coating will simply change and there will be no penetration
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 3 October 2019 19: 03
      +2
      And one underground explosion at a depth of 50m is replaced by one nuclear explosion on the surface, but with a capacity of 200 kT - and you don’t need to bother if there are tens of tons of free freshly displaced (slang!) Plutonium ...
      We make super quality by quantity - no one will ever know what it was there, that the Russians were so angry with him ?! laughing
    4. Piramidon
      Piramidon 3 October 2019 19: 13
      +10
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Much more necessary are bombs deeply buried underground.
      With penetration of concrete deep under a layer of rock and subsequent blasting.
      One surface or air explosion can be replaced by several less powerful ones. Quantity goes into quality.
      And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.

      What attracts you so much to these bunkers? If all the troops on the surface are destroyed, then what's the use of the commander sitting at a depth of 50 meters? Let him continue to sit. Or are you going to bury several divisions to this depth?
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 3 October 2019 19: 16
      +6
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Much more necessary are bombs deeply buried underground.
      With penetration of concrete deep under a layer of rock and subsequent blasting.
      One surface or air explosion can be replaced by several less powerful ones. Quantity goes into quality.
      And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.

      If this bunker has at least one exit to the surface, then with such an explosion power, everything that is in the bunker is simple will fly out through the holes in the outlet
      1. poquello
        poquello 3 October 2019 20: 30
        +6
        Quote: APASUS
        If this hopper has at least one exit to the surface

        Duc, the "daddy of bombs" also has a kind of cave relative
  9. amr
    amr 3 October 2019 18: 31
    -1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.

    Now you will be minded, how to drink will be minded))
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 3 October 2019 18: 40
      +18
      And they’ll do it right. Was the dad bomb called anti-bunker? Or do battalions and regiments operate at a depth of 50 meters? what It seems not. The "dad" has his own tasks.
      1. eagle owl
        eagle owl 3 October 2019 18: 48
        +3
        But the bomb-bomb tested in Afghanistan, although it was positioned as an anti-bunker. however, against the caves, ob-this is the most complete, replace-do not replace with 50 explosions anywhere winked By the way, but the aerosol bomb was quite likely to be killed there like bugs, precisely because the caves ...
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 3 October 2019 18: 56
          +12
          "Bumblebee" with a thermobaric charge, in fact, albeit very small and distant, but a consanguineous relative of the bomb dad. And kyariz "cleaned" very well. And if daddy gets tired in the mountains ... the orchestra's hands get tired of Chopin
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 3 October 2019 23: 09
          -2
          Quote: Uhu
          But the bomb-bomb tested in Afghanistan, although it was positioned as an anti-bunker. however, against the caves, ob-this is the most complete,

          Why? Bin Laden washed off the Torah-Bora on the eve of his mother’s discharge.
          1. Prisoner
            Prisoner 4 October 2019 21: 27
            0
            Surely the curators warned that they’d throw our mother, you just dumped it just in case. You never know. Then you will return, if necessary. laughing
        3. businessv
          businessv 4 October 2019 00: 36
          +2
          Quote: Uhu
          But the bomb-bomb tested in Afghanistan, although it was positioned as an anti-bunker. however, against the caves, ob-this is the most complete

          The fact is that they did not test it, but applied it - it was not the caves that were bombed, but the fortifications that they themselves had built before.
  10. Hort
    Hort 3 October 2019 18: 44
    0
    So, can only a "strategist" carry such a bomb? If so, then why is it needed - not practical. Unless only with completely suppressed air defense and enemy aircraft, destroy some objects
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 3 October 2019 19: 17
      +4
      Paradise concentration of the most zealous partisans.
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 3 October 2019 18: 55
    +2
    Judging by the action, this is not dad, this is godfather. lol good soldier
  12. PCF
    PCF 3 October 2019 19: 05
    -2
    ... a vacuum bomb ... how did the magazines get out with their technical illiteracy
    1. Igar
      3 October 2019 20: 11
      0
      In my opinion, just you are illiterate
      1. PCF
        PCF 3 October 2019 21: 38
        -2
        will you justify such a daring thought?
        1. Igar
          3 October 2019 21: 57
          +1
          We didn’t switch to you. So dare again you
          1. PCF
            PCF 3 October 2019 22: 08
            -1
            I take full advantage of the anonymity of the Internet, so what about my illiteracy?
      2. businessv
        businessv 4 October 2019 00: 40
        +3
        Quote: IGAR
        In my opinion, just you are illiterate

        A colleague had in mind that thermobaric charges were called vacuum due to the burning of oxygen and the creation of negative pressure in the center of the blasting.
        1. PCF
          PCF 6 October 2019 04: 50
          0
          I understand everything and deeply condolences. The vacuum, whether physical or technical, begins (purely for me) from 10 to minus the fourth mm Hg. and everything else, sorry - just a slightly discharged atmosphere. Well, a vacuum cannot occur during an explosion in the atmosphere at sea level, even for a split second, a wave of small discharge is easy. Oxygen - 21% in the atmosphere, even if you physically destroy it, instantly chemically bind it, the pressure will drop by only one fifth of a bar, well, it will block your ears, maybe your nose’s blood will flow, someone will be lucky to suffocate.
          This is just a side effect, not a damaging factor. Thermobaric ammunition, the name indicates the damaging factors, but the word is complex and does not sound as bright as vacuum.
          The abundance of scientific terms does not make the speaker competent, but merely shows his level of training on this issue.
          And preparation ... is traditionally weak. All this verbal journalistic heresy such as "weapons based on NEW physical principles", vacuum bombs, explosion epicenters, has no analogues and other innovations with unprecedented measures ...
          1. businessv
            businessv 6 October 2019 12: 33
            +1
            Quote: PCF
            And the preparation ... is traditionally weak. All this verbal journalistic heresy is slightly annoying.

            Colleague, in my opinion, you too literally understand the expressions of modern journalists and sometimes you waste your nerves on them in vain. Agree that if everything in this article was described in a purely scientific language, then the article would not be posted here, but in some next issue of the internal circular of the Ministry of Defense, with the signature of the chipboard, intended exclusively for developers of this type of weapon. The rest I agree with you. drinks
  13. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 3 October 2019 19: 09
    +7
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Much more necessary are bombs deeply buried underground.
    With penetration of concrete deep under a layer of rock and subsequent blasting.
    One surface or air explosion can be replaced by several less powerful ones. Quantity goes into quality.
    And one underground explosion at a depth of 50 m cannot be replaced by ten at a depth of 5 m.

    Write nonsense because you don’t know what principle the explosion of this iron is based on. First, a little theory.
    Explosion of solid explosive gives rise to pressure up to 2000 atmospheres. An explosion of gas ammunition, methane, gives a pressure of up to 9 atmospheres. But this is in one volume.
    If this volume is divided into parts connected by a small hole, but not hermetically isolated from each other, then the detonation in the farthest compartment gives preliminary compression in the others, followed by detonation along the chain. From the farthest to the final. The first pressure is 9 atmospheres, in the farthest - 50 atmospheres.
    So, the vacuum munition does not work well on an open surface, but in conditions when there are many such non-tight holes on the ground. Casemates, viewing slots of armored vehicles, tunnels and so on. A gas explosive (or a nanosized solid, suspension. With a small explosion, it is first pushed out of the bomb body into the environment, sprayed (vaporized), mixed with air, and, most importantly, penetrates everywhere. The next step is to undermine the main explosive. Then the same effect works flare explosion in cavities, reinforced caponiers, etc. The explosion does not occur outside but inside.A shock wave attenuates quickly on the surface.Portially 4 degrees from the distance from the epicenter.Inside, the explosion propagates very far, practically without derogation from. The volume of space much smaller.
    Your assumption about the strongest effect of the deepening explosion is not true. The seismic of such an explosion is stronger, but it doesn’t kill much. Better is a blow of air.
    An external shock wave can be reflected by armor, a thick wall. And a fighter can survive in the vicinity of such an explosion. But for him, a blow of 0,2 atmosphere is enough for him to never flicker with his lively face anywhere else. It was called vacuum because after a powerful shock wave, it is followed by a decent rarefaction of air, completing what is left.
    1. PCF
      PCF 3 October 2019 19: 51
      -1
      when implosive munitions go into service, then write about "vacuum munitions", at the same time check the meaning of the word EPIcenter and how it differs from the center of the explosion.
      It seems to me that your shell always hits the funnel and the howitzer can shoot around the corner, if it is put on its side
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 3 October 2019 22: 27
      -7
      Thank. I know about vacuum bombs. IDF used them several times
      in wars.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 3 October 2019 23: 11
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        IDF used them several times
        in wars.

        Ours also used in Chechnya like.
  14. Lexus
    Lexus 3 October 2019 19: 25
    -4
    They have not yet seen how our harsh Chelyabinsk gas cylinders explode. bully

    Still think this outward similarity is random? soldier
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 4 October 2019 06: 43
      +3
      I saw it in Minsk in 1972. A gas filling station took off, it’s so correctly called. Used cylinders are opened in a special room with a plastic key. The hard worker either sowed it or broke it and began to open it with the usual adjustable wrench. Well then clear spark burst. But what’s most interesting is not one dead. And it seems like a woman shift supervisor, threw herself into the fire and blocked the valves to the main gas tanks. She was awarded the Order of Lenin. But this is rumored in the sense of a reward. Cylinders flew to a height of 150-200 meters.
      But that’s not all, in Minsk a few months later the paint shop exploded, where they made cases for Horizont TVs. There were a lot of victims.
      Explained cases are directly related to the article. An explosive air concentration of flammable substances has been created. Almost the same high-power vacuum bomb.
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 October 2019 19: 33
    +2
    Americans push on anti-bunker bombs, ours on ODAB. And our most powerful ODAB is used only with IL76
  16. Disorder
    Disorder 3 October 2019 19: 51
    0
    Oddly enough, having a much more scarce defense budget, the Russians manage to effectively compete with the Americans in the field of advanced weapons developments, in some ways even ahead of them.

    Mattresses only for servicing B-2 bombers annually spend up to 2,2 billion dollars. Another 1.6 billion for the maintenance of aircraft carriers (excluding their escort).

    With a warhead weight of 8,5 tons, the explosion power is 11 tons in TNT equivalent.

    Only "Voevoda" can take such a fool away, and a bomber may not reach the target if the air defense is normal.
  17. HMR333
    HMR333 3 October 2019 19: 52
    +1
    they can’t understand with their meager mind that money is not enough, it’s such a currency rate but the price in Russia is in rubles and not according to the level of the United States in dollars! if the currency is tied to gold as in the Soviet Union, then where will this dollar be))) and then whose budget will be greater)))
  18. Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 3 October 2019 20: 09
    +3
    And the king is naked! request
  19. Cartalon
    Cartalon 3 October 2019 20: 29
    +3
    These are completely different bombs, an American for bunkers, ours for areal purposes, they compare a curve with a wet one
  20. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 3 October 2019 20: 38
    +3
    * Oddly enough, having a much more scarce defense budget, the Russians manage to effectively compete with the Americans in the field of advanced weapons developments, somewhat even ahead of them. *
    This is because thinking is fundamentally different. Having everything, anyone ... who wants to ... will do it without anything, on your knee! .. This is aerobatics. As they say, let's build an atomic bomb at home. If it impatient. hi
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 3 October 2019 23: 28
      +4
      Vitaly, this is definitely noticed. I remember the speech of Mikhail Zadornov when he talked about how our guys changed a broken car generator belt for a tie made of tights and got to the service. And how the Germans, who were sitting in the car, looked at each other and one asked the other - "now you understand why the Russians smeared us in the war?"
  21. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 3 October 2019 20: 39
    +3
    Quote: PCF
    when implosive munitions go into service, then write about "vacuum munitions", at the same time check the meaning of the word EPIcenter and how it differs from the center of the explosion.
    It seems to me that your shell always hits the funnel and the howitzer can shoot around the corner, if it is put on its side

    You would be right if you talked about the detonation of ammunition with a solid explosive. A cloud of gas (dust), occupying an indefinite center, does not have such a concept.
    If something surrenders to you, then this is not my fault.
  22. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 3 October 2019 20: 53
    +1
    Quote: Observer2014
    No. Not applied. If I am mistaken, publish the source please. And in general, not twenty years have passed since they remembered about "Daddy of all bombs" Was there a boy? The Syrian conflict, like no other, was suitable for the use of this munition. Was it a pity for our desert? Or not humanely, for example, multiply the barmaley base by zero with one bomb. Is it necessary to operate with other more "humane" means?

    And what, they deliberately burrow into the ground, having gone into the desert? Or, after all, in cities, lost under houses, streets, among civilians? Are you crazy to write this? The bases were multiplied by zero. They showed a movie. Plain, low tubercles. Women and in different places (from minks) sultanchiki dust and smoke. Dozens. A lot of. How much is left, go and count.
    But this rarely happens. Cities, following the example of amers from the face of the Earth to demolish? Leave it to the Nazis.
  23. Azazelo
    Azazelo 3 October 2019 21: 14
    0
    Old news
  24. Karaul14
    Karaul14 3 October 2019 21: 14
    -1
    The American just falls and explodes if I'm not mistaken. They also have a GBU-57, which is anti-bunker and its task is to break through a huge thickness, and then explode. And what is the real price for this mother of all the bombs in battle? How long does it take to spray, etc.?
  25. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 3 October 2019 22: 01
    +3
    Quote: Karaul14
    The American just falls and explodes if I'm not mistaken. They also have a GBU-57, which is anti-bunker and its task is to break through a huge thickness, and then explode. And what is the real price for this mother of all the bombs in battle? How long does it take to spray, etc.?

    Fractions of a second. Gas (liquid) evaporates at the same speed, forming a cloud of explosive concentration. If we talk about methane, the explosion will be within 2 ..... 6% concentration. Less and more, there will be no explosion. Maximum strength at 4,15%. when there comes a complete balance of molecules in oxygen. Then the entire volume is used without residue. For solid nanoparticles, I don’t know. But, apparently, with a kondachka such things are not done? Science, tests have been. Found the best option.
  26. Catfish
    Catfish 3 October 2019 22: 48
    +3
    It touches me: the scorched desert is around, even the bodies have evaporated, but the ecology has not suffered. I like the sense of humor of our military. smile But Greenpeace can sleep peacefully.
  27. ROSS_51
    ROSS_51 4 October 2019 00: 23
    -1
    Quote: Observer2014
    The Syrian conflict, like no other, was suitable for the use of this munition. Was it a pity for our desert? Or not humanely, for example, multiply the barmaley base by zero with one bomb. Is it necessary to operate with other more "humane" means?

    And what tasks were generally set by the military when creating such an ammunition? Blow up half the desert? The loudest broads on the planet?
    What is the base there? A small town can be destroyed, yes. A ramified defensive line with casemates and pillboxes is unlikely.
  28. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 4 October 2019 03: 24
    +1
    Russians will always have a tricky nut with a threaded bolt.-WHAT subtext?!?!
  29. Cro-Magnon
    Cro-Magnon 4 October 2019 03: 59
    +2
    Environmentally friendly Russian ammunition! I applaud while standing!
  30. trahterist
    trahterist 4 October 2019 05: 26
    -2
    Quote: Observer2014
    No. Not applied. If I am mistaken, publish the source please. And in general, not twenty years have passed since they remembered about "Daddy of all bombs" Was there a boy? The Syrian conflict, like no other, was suitable for the use of this munition. Was it a pity for our desert? Or not humanely, for example, multiply the barmaley base by zero with one bomb. Is it necessary to operate with other more "humane" means?

    For the effective use of thermobaric ammunition (it became "vacuum" in the articles of ZDov magazines) certain conditions are required.
    In the mountains, or in windy weather, or both factors together, and there’s little use for it.
  31. YOUR
    YOUR 4 October 2019 06: 45
    +1
    ......... the explosion power reaches 44 tons of TNT ............. As in that joke about a nuclear bomb, we thought that it .... and it’s like in ... bum.
  32. Shuttle
    Shuttle 4 October 2019 07: 00
    +2
    I wonder how the words "tricky nut" and "threaded bolt" sound in Mandarin?
    In my opinion there should be something very cool. laughing
  33. alstr
    alstr 4 October 2019 08: 50
    +2
    And it turned out so funny for me. Under the first photo where the TU-160 throws a bomb.
    Below, the advertisement looks like a caption under a photo.
    "Dismantling the old foundation". And next to the button "Learn more"
  34. Fidel
    Fidel 4 October 2019 14: 04
    0
    And what did you want from the descendants of the gopniks who became "effective managers") laughing
  35. vlados
    vlados 4 October 2019 14: 38
    0
    I remembered a joke about a rubber bomb. Well, which is still jumping)
    Another Russian propaganda, you can’t plainly see it on the test video, just cutting frames and continuous editing. For some reason, Americans are posting their crash tests in a more convincing video format.
  36. Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 4 October 2019 17: 52
    0
    Different bombs by type and place of use.
    They have a high-explosive one to destroy buried objects.
    We have a "vacuum" one for hitting objects on the surface.
    Comparing them is like warm to soft.
  37. GibSoN
    GibSoN 4 October 2019 20: 43
    0
    I would like to see an example of the use of a "vacuum" RPG on a tank .. Well, for the sake of interest .. From a physical point of view, the effectiveness of the use of such ammunition against a real enemy (not barmaley in hats) is extremely low. On top of that, there are many different conditions under which you can achieve the greatest effectiveness of this type of weapon .. It's like a laser, in ideal conditions. That is why almost all countries have abandoned this concept. Since the greatest efficiency is precisely against the barmaley without equipment and shelters. And that is already a completely different concept of warfare. Yes, and this weapon can hardly be called humane. Well, as for the use in deserts .. maybe even start using chemical weapons there? And that is also effective! Or better just nuclear! It's still a desert.
    PS You try to even blow up a dozen gas cylinders at the tank! At best, his paint will get scratched.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 4 October 2019 21: 23
      0
      Maybe even most likely. This is if the cylinders are blown up. A normal explosion with some torn large fragments. But if the valves are opened and the gas is set on fire, the effect will be completely different. This is already a volumetric explosion. The example with gas cylinders is not convincing. Your statement, they say, "practically all countries have refused" is already statements like "green grapes". winked He sees an eye and a tooth is numb. laughing
  38. pvs512
    pvs512 5 October 2019 06: 09
    0
    1:17 Tore off the rear doors of the APC and the wheels from the hubs. Well and horror.
  39. Givi_49
    Givi_49 5 October 2019 10: 16
    0
    China resembled a wise monkey sitting on a tree and watching the rivalry between a lion and a tiger. My Russia does not know what it wants, therefore, like a child, it gets involved in all sorts of provocative races. That is, we do everything "in response". The initiative belongs to the "partners". Commercials they will take us where they want. And we will do "that-I-don't-know-what". We are being manipulated. These bombs, Musk rockets, airplanes, high-speed helicopters and, for sure, there is something to continue this list.
    A good powerful bomb, this is great, it will not interfere with the economy. I'm worried about something else. We need a solid scientific and religious ideology, the resulting strategy, policy and tactics. It's time for us to choose a course and sail where we need to, and not where the wind is blowing, or vice versa, against the current ... e. play their game. We can afford it because we are strong enough.