Short reign of Peter III. Lies and truth

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So, on December 25 of 1762, after the death of Empress Elizabeth Petrovna, Peter Fedorovich ascended the Russian throne. Soon he was about to turn 33 of the year, almost 20 of which he spent in Russia. And now Peter could finally begin to realize his thoughts and plans.

Short reign of Peter III. Lies and truth

Emperor Peter III (from an engraving by an unknown artist of the 18th century)




If you believe the false memoirs of his murderers, all 186 days after the death of Elizabeth, Peter was only involved in drinking with the Holstein people in Oranienbaum - they say that at last a man got to free and unlimited Russian vodka (just like Yeltsin in our 90). And in short and rare minutes of painful sobriety, he once again betrayed Russia to his beloved Friedrich (again, Yeltsin is remembered). These stories should be treated like nonsense that has nothing to do with reality.

Legislative activity of Peter III



Rokotov Fedor Stepanovich. Portrait of Peter III. Canvas, oil. 157х111 see Nizhny Novgorod Art Museum


It is known that during the time spent by Peter III on the throne, he prepared and published 192 laws and decrees - more than 30 per month. In this connection, an interesting question arises: when did he still have time to get drunk? Considering that Catherine II, who worked tirelessly for the good of Russia, for the month on average signed only 12 decrees, and Peter I only 8.

But this is the quantity. And what about the quality of all these decrees? Maybe they spoke exclusively about military articles and the number of buttons on overcoats?

The most famous, of course, was the "Law on the Liberty of the Nobility" - for this decree, the Russian nobles were going to put a lifetime monument to Peter III in time, but did not have time. This law, which came to power, Catherine corrected in 1763, again making the service of the nobility mandatory, only in 1785, military service became optional.

Peter III also abolished the Secret Office (which probably greatly facilitated the position of the conspirators and contributed to their success). Catherine took into account this sad experience, reviving the terrible "Office" under the name "Secret Expedition."

Catherine also abolished other progressive laws of Peter III: on freedom of religion, on the prohibition of church supervision of the personal life of parishioners, on the transparency of legal proceedings and free travel abroad. Peter III ordered an end to the persecution of the Old Believers, but, imagining herself a "philosopher on the throne," the usurper after coming to power resumed them. Finally, Peter, for the first time in Russia, issued a decree on the “silver-free service” prohibiting officials from being awarded “peasant souls” and state land with only orders. Under Catherine II, as we recall, peasants for gifts to her accomplices and favorites soon ended, so that “not offending anyone” had to introduce serfdom in Little Russia (in 1783):

"Gay, Queen Katerina,
What have you done?
The steppe, the wide edge is cheerful,
Panama gave away. "


This song was heard in Ukraine at the beginning of the twentieth century.

A.S. Pushkin wrote about this:
"Catherine gave away about a million state peasants (free farmers) and secured free Little Russia and the Polish provinces."


A. K. Tolstoy also did not bypass this topic. In a mock "Stories of the Russian state from Gostomysl to Timashev "of all the acts of Catherine II, only the introduction of serfdom in Little Russia is mentioned:
"Madame, with you on the marvel
Order will blossom, -
They wrote her courteously
Voltaire and Deiderot, -
Only the people need
To whom you are a mother
Rather give freedom
Rather give freedom. ”
"Messieurs," objected to them.
She, - vous me comblez "(you are too kind to me) -
And immediately attached
Ukrainians to the land. "


The decree of Peter III on restricting the personal dependence of peasants on landowners was canceled - instead, under Catherine II, for the first time in Russian history, they began to be sold separately from the land. It was then that serfdom turned into real slavery, and it was not the Crimean Tatars in the Cafe that sold the Russian people, but the Russian landowners like cattle in four all-Russian slave markets: in St. Petersburg, Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod, and Samara. And also - at many small local bazaars and newspaper advertisements. Sometimes a wife was separated from her husband, and a mother was separated from children.


Trade in Slavic slaves in Crimea



Lebedev K. Sale of serfs at auction. 1910


The decrees on non-obligatory military service and on non-obligatory observance of religious posts remained unfulfilled. However, Peter III managed to free part of the monastic serfs, giving them eternal use of arable land, for which they were supposed to contribute cash rent to the state treasury. In total, it was supposed to give freedom to 910.866 to male peasants: add women to them and realize the scale of monastery slavery and the grandeur of the reform. He deprived the slave clergy of the salary as "civil servants." Alas, many of these peasants freed by Peter, Catherine will soon give away to her lovers.

By other decrees, Peter ordered the founding of a state bank, to the accounts of which he contributed 5 million rubles from personal funds to ensure the issuance of the first bank notes in Russia, to replace damaged coins. The price of salt was also reduced, peasants were allowed to trade in cities without obtaining permission and paperwork (which immediately stopped numerous abuses and requisitions). In the army and on navy it was forbidden to punish soldiers and sailors with bats and “cats” (these are four-tailed lashes with knots at the ends).

Everyone knows that the death penalty was abolished under Elizabeth. But, you wondered how many people were beaten to death during the execution of "standard and ordinary" savage "punishments"?


Punishment by a whip. Illustration for the book "Journey to Siberia" by Abbot Chappe d'Otrosh. Mid 18th century



H. Geisler. Punishment of the serf by the gods in the presence of the landlord's family and the yard. Engraving. End of the 18th century


Here is the famous resolution of Nicholas I on the report on two persons sentenced to death:
"Guilty to drive through 1000 people 12 times. Thank God, we did not have the death penalty, and it is not for me to introduce it."

(D. G. Bertram. History of the rod. T. I. M., 1992, p. 157.)

Do you think there are many chances for a person to survive after 12 of thousands of punches with gauntlets? This is a metal ramrod or a long and flexible thick rod made of twigs dipped in salt water. I answer: there was no chance even after the appointment of 6 of thousands of such attacks. Therefore, often in sentences indicated:
"To punish the criminals, hang their corpses at the crime scene."


Probably, it’s better to immediately on the chopping block, is not it?

But back to the decrees of Peter III. For example, “for innocent patience of torture of courtyard people”, it was ordered that the landowner Zotova be tonsured in the monastery and her property confiscated to pay compensation to the victims.

By another decree of the emperor, Voronezh lieutenant V. Nesterov was forever exiled to Nerchinsk for bringing to death a yard man.

Peter III and John VI. Date of two emperors


Peter III showed great interest in a person who was quite dangerous for himself — John Antonovich, the victim and captive of Elizabeth. On 22 on March 1762 in Shlisselburg, a meeting of two emperors took place - Peter III (who appeared incognito, dressed in officer uniform) and John Antonovich. They both ascended the throne on absolutely legal grounds, and both will die a violent death, moreover, John will survive Peter, but can his miserable existence be called life?


Burov F. "Shlisselburg Prisoner" ("Emperor Peter III incognito visits John the Antonovich Shlisselburg Fortress"). 1885


Who did Peter see in Shlisselburg? A tall and strong young man, outwardly tidy, maintaining order in his cell. Somehow, contrary to strict orders, he learned to write, and knew about his origin. John possessed a good memory and even remembered the name of the officer who accompanied his family from Oranienburg to Kholmogory - Korf (N.A. Korf, now chief police officer of St. Petersburg, who accompanied Peter III to Shlisselburg and was nearby during this conversation. Member of the conspiracy against Peter III). But the captive’s mind was nevertheless obscured by a lengthy solitary confinement, because he declared: “Sovereign John has long been taken to heaven, but he wants to preserve the claims of the person whose name he bears” (from the report of the British ambassador). Or, in another version: "Ivan is no longer alive; he knows about this prince that if this prince was born again, he would not give up his rights" (from a letter from the Ambassador of Austria).

According to some reports, Peter had intentions to release John with the aim of determining for military service. He refused these plans after a meeting, remaining dissatisfied with the prisoner's answers. He said that, in case of returning to the throne, he would order Elizabeth to be executed (he did not know about her death), and the grand duchess, according to one version, would be sent out of the country, and according to another, he would also be executed. Having abandoned the intention to free the prisoner, Peter, however, on April 1 handed over gifts for him (some of his clothes and shoes), and decided, nevertheless, to ease his situation somewhat. He ordered the Shlisselburg fortress to be equipped with a more comfortable room for John Antonovich (it was not completed due to a coup d'etat followed by the assassination of the emperor). This order, by the way, led to rumors that new cameras were being prepared for Peter's wife, Catherine.

Date of John VI and Catherine II


The seized power Catherine also visited the unfortunate John, but her visit led to toughening the conditions of his detention. In addition, she ordered to kill the prisoner if someone tries to free him. The jailers conscientiously executed this order in 1764.


Cottage cheese I.I. “Lieutenant Vasily Mirovich at the corpse of John Antonovich on the 5 of July 1764 of the year in the Shlisselburg Fortress”, 1884


Thus, Catherine II usurped the throne of Russia went down in history as the culprit of the death of two absolutely legitimate Russian emperors.

Peace Treaty and Union with Prussia


Now consider the worst "crime" of Peter III in the eyes of the patriots - the conclusion of peace with Frederick II and the abandonment of East Prussia. In fact, Prussia lost, having received nothing in return, it was Catherine II. Moreover, the hasty and unreasonable conclusion of the “Western Group of Forces” after the emperor’s assassination in 1762 resembles a strange “flight” of the Russian army from the territory of the former GDR. Let us explain the situation: Russia did not have any rights to the Prussian kingdom, and this conquest would never have been recognized by other monarchs of Europe. Remember what difficulties Russia has always experienced in trying to leave at least something of the lands of defeated Islamic Turkey. Even if it was "Wild Field" - the land of the future New Russia, vacant due to the constant raids of the Crimean Tatars, on which serfs from the central Russian provinces were brought, and also Bulgarians, Greeks, Serbs, Armenians fleeing from Ottoman oppression. From scratch, it was necessary to build not only villages and landowners' estates, but also big cities - Odessa, Kherson, Nikolaev, Mariupol, Ekaterinoslav (Dnepropetrovsk), Krivoy Rog, Aleksandrovsk (Zaporozhye) ... And here is a well-developed territory on which they live not the “Mohammedans,” but the Lutheran Germans, and this is not the Ottoman province, but the European kingdom. These lands were separated from Russia by the traditionally hostile Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Duchy of Courland, whose status was not yet finally determined. The land route to East Prussia could be blocked at any minute, the supply by sea was problematic and depended on the position of Britain (first of all) and Sweden. To hold this territory there was not the slightest chance and no opportunity. But Russia had absolutely legal, uncontested, rights to Holstein and Stormarn, as well as to Schleswig and Ditmarshen (which were temporarily captured by Denmark). The duke of these lands was the new Russian emperor - Peter III. Thousands of young Holstein people came to Russia to serve their duke, even when he was Grand Duke. At the same time, East Prussia was a rather poor and backward agrarian country, the real backyards of Europe, Holstein and Schleswig - much richer principalities, and even with a unique geographical position that allows you to control the North and Baltic Seas. Look at the map:



This was no longer the Petersburg “window to Europe”, but the “elite real estate” in the then “European Union” with a permanent “residence permit” - territories from which it was possible to freely obtain the necessary specialists and the technologies that were absent in Russia. But we do know that the Europeans have always reacted (and relate) very negatively to the transfer of advanced technologies to "barbarian" Russia. We have already talked about the strategic position of these lands; powerful Russian military bases on their territory have changed a lot in the alignment of forces and the further course of European history. Peter perfectly understood all this, and therefore, according to the agreement he drew up, Petersburg returned East Prussia to Frederick II, but only on condition that Russia returned Schleswig and Dietmarschen, for the conquest of which Frederick pledged to provide an army of 20 thousand people to help Russia: 15 thousand foot soldiers and 5 thousand cavalry. Negotiations with Denmark were scheduled for July 1762. If they were unsuccessful, Russia and Prussia began military operations against the Danes and no one doubted their success. And even after that, Peter retained the right, at his discretion, to stop the withdrawal of Russian troops from Prussia "in view of the ongoing unrest in Europe." That is, the "Western Group of Forces" could remain in Prussia for many more years and maybe decades, guaranteeing the "obedience" of Frederick II and his "complaisance." While Peter III was alive, the Russian troops still controlled Prussia. Moreover, Koenigsberg was approached by the Russian squadron from Revel, which strengthened them (Kronstadt was ordered to be ready for the campaign). Stationary weapons and food depots. In addition, Frederick II pledged to support candidates convenient for Russia to the thrones of the Commonwealth and as yet independent Courland. Now you understand the lines of the German treatise quoted in the first article - Ryzhov V.A. Peter III. Too good for his age?:

"First Peter is great,
But the Third was the best.
With him, Russia was great,
The envy of Europe subdued. "


But Catherine’s position was extremely precarious, and on the table near Frederick II there were letters compromising her, with the obligation to “be grateful.” And therefore, she did not dare to demand that the king fulfill his part of the obligations, while continuing to fulfill the obligations of the Russian side - in exchange for the recognition of her rights to the Russian throne. By order of Catherine II, the Russian army, without any conditions, was withdrawn from Prussia. This was accompanied by rampant patriotic chatter, the Prussian king was even called in the manifesto a "monster", to which the pragmatic Frederick paid no attention: at least call a "pot", just do what is required of you. And two years later, Catherine had openly concluded an alliance agreement with Prussia - not as beneficial as Peter III, but, in general terms, very similar. Such was the inglorious finale of Russia's participation in the Seven Years War absolutely unnecessary to her.

But what about Holstein and Schleswig? Schleswig was never recaptured from Denmark, but in Holstein the power of the son of Peter III was not disputed. When Pavel grew a little, thousands of his German subjects voluntarily came to his service, despite the terrible and sad fate of their predecessors from the garrison of Petershtadt (this will be discussed in detail in the next article). But in 1767, Catherine forced Paul to abandon Holstein and Stormarn, which belonged to him by right - in exchange for the counties of Oldenburg and Delmenhorst, located in northwestern Germany. This unequal and extremely unprofitable for Paul exchange of territories took place in 1773 - after he came of age. Catherine deliberately deprived the unloved son of loyal and loving subjects. In Kiel, this decision was taken very painfully, there even began to appear prophecies about the return of Paul’s father, Peter (in more detail in the following articles, which will also tell about the "posthumous adventures of the murdered Russian emperor). And Catherine Oldenburg and Delmenhorst (again, from named after Paul) already in 4 of the year - in 1777, she “gifted” the former prince-bishop Lübeck Frederick Augustus in hereditary sovereign possession, incompetently losing all European possessions of her husband and son, and after all this she called herself “Great”.

Russia has lost such an emperor as a result of a coup d'etat organized by Catherine. And what kind of "mother-empress" did our unfortunate country acquire?

"The Age of Golden Catherine"


"The old lady sweet lived
Nice and a little bit prodigal
Voltaire was the first friend
She wrote the order, she burned the fleets,
And she died boarding a ship. "
(the ship in this case is not the ship).
A. S. Pushkin.


Vigilius Eriksen. Portrait of Catherine II


Catherine II did not learn to speak Russian correctly - many memoirists report on her distorting even the simplest words, a lot of "rudely Russified French expressions", an accent that she could not get rid of. In German, Catherine, by the way, also spoke and wrote, by her own admission, "badly." The Empress knew French better than the other two, but, according to the recollections of educated contemporaries, speaking in it, she used a large number of Italian and German words, and some even reported on Catherine’s “tabloid slang”. This is not surprising, since parents did not have high expectations for the girl, and, as she said, as if apologizing already in St. Petersburg, Catherine herself:
"I was raised to marry some petty neighboring prince, and accordingly they taught me that."


She also remembered her mentor, Mademoiselle Kardel,
she knew almost everything, although she herself never studied, almost like her student. "


According to K. Valiszewski, the main merit of Mademoiselle Kardel was that she saved the future empress "from the slap in the face, squandered by her mother for every trivial matter, obeying not the mind, but the mood." And also - "from the spirit of intrigue, lies, low instincts, petty ambition, reflecting the whole soul of several generations of German petty princes, inherent in the wife of Christian Augustus."

The former state lady of Catherine - Baroness Printen, told everyone that
"closely following the doctrine of the teachings and the successes of the future empress, she did not find any special qualities and gifts in her."


It is not surprising that, in the story of Catherine about the first meeting with Peter (then Karl Peter Ulrich), we hear outright envy:
“For the first time I saw the Grand Duke, who was really handsome, amiable and well-mannered. Miracles were told about the eleven-year-old boy.”


All this does not at all speak about the natural stupidity of Catherine. Awareness of their shortcomings, as you know, is the first step in solving the problem, and her constant half-joking statements about lack of education were supposed to "disarm" the interlocutors and make them condescending to a girl from the German backwoods. In Russia, Catherine read a lot, trying to compensate for the shortcomings of her education, and achieved certain successes.

Worse was the other. Corresponding to the great French philosophers, Catherine argued that
"slaves and servants exist from the creation of the world, and this is not at all disgusting to God. Therefore, the mob should not be educated, otherwise it will not obey us."


And she said that "it’s easier to rule a drunk people."


Tavern, lithography


Mark Aldanov wrote that Catherine:
"I knew very well that by no law did she have the slightest rights to the imperial throne of Russia ... She, the Zerbst German, she occupied the Russian throne only thanks to the seizure carried out by ... a bunch of crazy guard officers"


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"she understood that she could stay on the throne only in every possible way pleasing the nobility and officers - in order to prevent or at least reduce the danger of a new palace coup. She did this. Her whole domestic policy was to ensure that the life of officers at her court and in the guards was perhaps more profitable and enjoyable. "


And this is an absolutely fair opinion. It is known that the empress herself was rather modest in food preferences: they say that she loved boiled beef with light-salted cucumbers, apples, her favorite drink is currant juice. However, in order to please the courtiers, the palace kitchen spent 90 rubles a day preparing various dishes. For comparison: the annual salary of the drummer of the police office was 4 rubles 56 kopecks, the cab driver of the office of the General Army Staff - 6 rubles, the linen factory worker - 9 rubles, the barber - 18 rubles, the army sergeant - 45 rubles, the painter of the imperial X factory of China.

However, 90 rubles a day - it was still "divine". Yekaterina's favorite Grigory Potemkin spent 800 rubles a day on the “table” - more than the doctor (249,96 rubles) and even the official 6 rank of the Table of Ranks — the college adviser (750 rubles) earned.

The empress was also indulgent with high-ranking embezzlers. To the president of the military college, applying for a poor officer, Catherine II answered:
"If he is poor - it's his fault, he commanded a regiment for a long time."

(A. Kirpichnikov, Bribe and Corruption in Russia. M., 1997, p. 38-40.)

Pavel, who came to power, discovered that the 1541 fictitious officer was listed in the horse guard alone. And in the Preobrazhensky regiment (in which only nobles served) on 3500 privates there were 6000 non-commissioned officers, while only 100 of them were in service. And here we are talking about some mythical "second lieutenant Kizha".

Even “sweeter” was the life of Catherine’s favorites, the last of which - Platon Zubov, immediately held 36 government posts, for each of which he received a good “salary”. Here are some of them: General-Fieldmaster, General Director of all the fortifications of the empire, Commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Ascension Light Cavalry and the Black Sea Cossack Army, Adjutant General of Her Imperial Majesty, Chef of the Cavalier Guard Corps, Governor General Catherine of Trinity, Voznes Military College. His merits in bed, apparently, were so great that he was a holder of the orders of the Holy Apostle Andrew, St. Alexander Nevsky, the Holy Equal-to-the-Apostles Prince Vladimir I degree, the Royal Prussian orders of the Black and Red Eagles, the Polish orders of the White Eagle and St. Stanislav, the Grand Duke of Holstein St. Anne.


Tropinin V.A. Portrait of P.N. Zubova


But the official "salary" is a mere trifle compared to the "gifts". For 6 years of “chance” Plato Zubov received more from Catherine II than Grigory Potemkin for 20 years, without spending (as contemporaries claim) “not a single ruble for the needs of society”. Closer to old age, his stinginess has already taken absolutely disgusting features, suggest that it was he who became the prototype of the "Mean Knight" in one of Alexander Pushkin's Little Tragedies.

The English envoy James Harris (who was ambassador to Russia from 1778 to 1783) in one of his reports told London about Catherine’s alleged expenditures for the maintenance of her favorites (modern scholars consider the data provided by Harris to be quite reliable). According to Harris, the Orlov family received from 1762 to 1783 years from 40 to 50 of thousands of “souls” of serfs (recall that only the “souls” of male peasants were taken into account, add more women) and, in total, 17 million rubles in cash and palaces, jewelry, dishes.

A. S. Vasilchikov for less than two years - 100 thousand rubles in silver, 50 thousand rubles in gold "trinkets", a fully furnished house worth 100 thousand rubles, an annual pension of 20 thousand rubles and 7 thousand souls of peasants.

G. A. Potemkin in the first two years of the “case” received 37 thousand peasants and about 9 million rubles.

On our behalf, we add that Potemkin received gifts from Catherine in the amount of about 50 million rubles, but this was not enough - after his death it turned out that he owed 2 million 600 thousand rubles to creditors, most of these debts were paid from the state treasury.

Let's go back to the Harris report:

For a year and a half, P.V. Zavadovsky received 6 thousand “souls” of peasants in Little Russia, 2 thousand in Poland, 1 800 in Russian provinces, 80 thousand rubles in jewelry, 150 thousand rubles in cash, a service worth 30 thousand rubles and a pension in 10 thousand rubles.

S. G. Zorich in one year of his “service” in the Empress’s bedroom received estates in Poland and Livonia, the command of the Order of Malta in Poland, 500 thousand rubles in cash and 200 thousand rubles with jewels.

I.N. Korsakov for sixteen months - a total of 370 thousand rubles and 4 thousand peasants in Poland.

Favorites and close empresses, wealthy landowner slave owners and their sons - officers of the guard regiments, could indeed call the "age of Catherine" "Golden", but how did the people live under this empress? Here is what Boris Mironov writes in the article “When did you live well in Russia?” (Homeland. No. 4. M., 2008, p. 19):
"The living standards of the taxable population decreased most intensively under Catherine II, less sensitive under Elizabeth Petrovna and Peter I, and, contrary to popular belief, increased under Anna Ioannovna."


That is, Catherine II, with her voracious and insatiable favorites in the ruin of the people of Russia, surpassed even Peter I, about whom V. Klyuchevsky said that he "ravaged the fatherland worse than any enemy."

One of the indicators of the impoverishment of the peasants during the reign of Elizabeth Petrovna and, especially, Catherine II, was a decrease in the average height of Russian men by 3,5. Therefore, in 1780-1790. when recruiting, I had to lower growth qualifications - in order to recruit at least someone in the army.

The English Ambassador Harris already mentioned by us wrote in 1778:
"I find that Catherine’s good qualities were exaggerated, and her flaws are diminished."



James Harris, Lord Malmesbury, British Ambassador to Russia


K. Valishevsky noted that "Catherine has reached perfection in the art of managing the modern press" and indicates that there was no shortage of people who wanted to sell their pen profitably:
"The luck of Didro (from whom Catherine bought the library expensively in 1765) boomed throughout Europe, and everywhere where there were poets or philosophers who needed it, the compilers of the Encyclopedia, or the staff of the Almanac Muses, there were people who wanted to better join the new Olympus, giving such tempting hopes ... To be well received in Petersburg, one should praise without measure and flatter without looking back. "


Catherine’s sneakiness was so high that when
in 1782, Leveque's “History of Russia” appeared (“L'Histoire de Russie”, de L'Evesque), the first full story published in Russia and compiled from solid documents in which the author calls on posterity “to glorify worthily, without fear of accusations of flattery, genius, talents and good deeds of this monarchine, "Catherine felt unsatisfied with this review ... What did these pathetic compliments mean for the goddess who eclipsed Alexander the Great in the history and supplanted Minerva from Olympus? Catherine was indignant; Leveck and his co-worker - Leclerc - appeared in her eyes as "villains humiliating the significance of Russia," "unpleasant annoying animals."


When
Senak de Meylan, who sought to become the official historiographer of the great reign, in his efforts went so far as to compare Catherine with the church of St. Petra in Rome ... the empress announced that the comparison "is not worth ten sous."

(K. Valishevsky, "Catherine II and the Opinion of Europe".)

Jean-Paul Marat, who, unlike Voltaire, Diderot, Rousseau and other lesser-known philosophers and writers, did not receive handouts from Catherine, wrote about Semiramida Severa:
"Due to her vanity and the instinct of imitation ... she took some measures, which, however, had no significance for the happiness of society, but only contributed to the ruin of the state ... to satisfy vanity and love for splendor ... She herself paid tribute: without waiting for the public to create her fame, she hired venal feathers that sing her praises. "


A. S. Pushkin, too, was not deceived by the false gold of the "age of Catherine." Here is what is said about her in his Notes on Russian History of the 18th Century:
"Over time, history will appreciate the influence of her reign on morals: it will reveal the cruel activities of her despotism under the guise of meekness and tolerance, a people oppressed by governors, a treasury plundered by lovers, will show important errors in its political economy, insignificance in legislation, disgusting figurativeness in relations with philosophers its centuries - and then the voice of the seduced Voltaire will not save her glorious memory from the curse of Russia. "


And this is the opinion of Alexander Herzen:
“What an amazing era, the imperial throne is likened to Cleopatra’s bed! A crowd of oligarchs, strangers, favorites brought an unknown child to Russia, a German, elevated her to the throne, gave her name with blows to whip anyone who decided to object and rebuke.”


Here Herzen is in solidarity with Frederick II, who said that Catherine’s role in the conspiracy was minimal: the truly “serious” people used her as a battering ram against the uncomfortable legal emperor. It was assumed that she would take the place of regency with her son and would live for her own pleasure, without interfering in anything. It sounds funny, but even the 19-year-old Ekaterina Malaya - Dashkova, then considered herself a very important political figure and insisted on the regency of Ekaterina the Great. But Catherine II circled everyone around her finger: relying on Orlov-controlled “Janissaries,” she declared herself Empress. Dashkova, unlike many others (the same N. Panin), did not orient in time, for which she paid when Ekaterina "entered into force" and confidently felt herself on the throne. In 1764, under the pretext of observing mourning for her deceased husband, the empress sent Dashkova to Moscow, and in 1769, “to raise children” abroad. In 1783, it seemed, there was a rapprochement of old friends: Catherine II allowed Dashkova to return to Russia and appointed director of the Academy of Sciences, but already in 1794 she was dismissed, and Paul I was sent to a village near Novgorod.

But back to Catherine II and her Golden Age.

In her work "Catherine II, her origin, intimate life and politics", published in 1903, A.V. Stepanov (who, by the way, talking about Peter III, repeats all the "jokes" of his predecessors and calls the emperor a "semi-idiot") wrote:
“The court of the“ great ”Catherine appears to the historian studying Russia as a huge center of moral contagion that spread from the throne to all layers of Russian society ... One involuntarily thinks that hordes of evil spirits and scum of humanity have founded their haven on the banks of the Neva, where they erected a terrible monument to human vileness and immorality ... neither the people nor the government cared about each other.The first completely ignored the opinion of their people, and the latter, being crammed morally and physically, was a burden enormous taxes and taxes, represented the silent mass, standing outside all laws ... A gang of godless insolents ... now attacked the state treasury and began to endow itself with different insignia and honorary posts, and this bastard who surrounded the harlot raised to the throne was shamelessly and brazenly dubbed herself the new government. "




I.L. Barskov, student V.O. Klyuchevsky and teacher G.V. Vernadsky, one of the few who was allowed to analyze the manuscripts of the palace archive, editor and commentator of the 12-volume academic publication of the writings of Catherine II, also speaks extremely critically of her:
"Lies were the queen's chief instrument; all her life, from early childhood to old age, she used this instrument as a virtuoso and deceived her parents, governess, husband, lovers, subjects, foreigners, contemporaries and descendants."


Oddly enough, many Soviet and modern Russian historians turned out to be more condescending to Catherine II than the researchers of tsarist Russia. This is a manifestation of the notorious "Stockholm Syndrome": in our country, the descendants of serfs often identify themselves with the oppressors of their ancestors. At that time, they represented themselves, at least, as lieutenants of the metropolitan guards regiments (or rather, colonels at once) or young countesses dancing a mazurka at the imperial balls with cinematic guards. Even V. Pikul in the novel "The Feather and the Sword" deceives us:
"What would we do, reader, you and I would have lived at that time? Probably we would have served, yes! A tough scarf woven in silver around the neck (does not warm), on the side there is a wobbly little skewer."


The same lieutenant, only the army, probably. No, Valentin Savich, the vast majority of modern Russians at that time would bend their backs on corvee in the estates of these lieutenants and cavalry guards near Smolensk or Tula. Or hunched over at the iron foundries of the Demidovs or linen factories of the relatives of the wife of Pushkin - the Goncharovs. Some - the angry and capricious mistress heels scratched, as on this engraving:


Frederic Lacroix. "Pastime", 1840-ies. The serfs scratch the heels of the lady


And if someone served, then he was an ordinary, and the whole village would cry on the wires over it - as if dead, knowing that his life would be a little better than hard labor. They will put the poor fellow in the form of a cross in the palm of his hand, and give them to the regimental non-commissioned officers, "training" the soldiers on the principle: "Ten recruits, but learn one."


Recruit training. Figure A. Vasiliev from the book of N. Schilder "Emperor Nicholas I. His life and reign." It is unlikely that the methods of training recruits were very different under Catherine II and one of her sons.


And then - on a trip to the Turks or Swedes, and during this war the probability of dying from typhoid or dysentery will be several times higher than from a Turkish saber or a Swedish bullet. Here are the data that historians have at their disposal for the army of Nikolaev time: from 1825 to 1850. the Russian army consisted of 2 600 497 soldiers. 300 233 people died in the battles, died from diseases - 1 062 839.
(Bershtein A. Empire of facades. // History. No. 4. M., 2005, p. 17.)

There is no reason to think that under Catherine II it was different.

And the situation is not better for the sailors - it is not for nothing that the galleys in the Russian Navy officially called "penal servitude" (this is the literal translation of the Italian word galera into Russian).


Galley rowing (scampaveia)


Among modern Russians there are no direct and legal descendants of princes and counts, nothing can be done.

Recognizing the obvious things - the low moral qualities of Catherine II, the double usurpation of power (having no rights to the Russian throne, took the crown from her husband and did not pass it to her son), the murder of two legal emperors, the conversion of serfdom into classical slavery and the stalling of the country into a real civil war ("Pugachevschina"), now they often talk about it as a tongue twister. The emphasis is on the victories of Russia in the wars with Turkey, the annexation of Crimea, the development of the lands of New Russia. However, Russia was experiencing at that time the heroic phase of its ethnogenesis - the stage of recovery. P.A. Rumyantsev, A.V. Suvorov, M.F. Kamensky, F.F. Ushakov, Russian soldiers and sailors would have won under any emperor. And the vector of Russia's centuries-old natural interests pushed it precisely to the Black Sea - in order to solve the problem of the aspen nest of the Crimean Khanate once and for all, to master the empty chernozem lands, to get free access to the Mediterranean Sea.

However, how many people, both in Russia and around the world, read the works of serious historians? The main apologist for Catherine II in our country was V.S. Pikul. Prior to the publication of his famous novel “Favorite,” this empress was known to the vast majority of the population of our country mainly by scandalous “jokes” (an anecdote in its original meaning is a short story about an interesting case, the literal meaning of the word is “unpublished”). The most indecent (and popular) of them is the bike, which became widespread at the French royal court after the death of Catherine, from serious researchers it is mentioned by the Polish historian K. Valiszewski, as a result of which there was even a version that he was its author. British historical actress Helen Mirren, who played the title role in the series Catherine the Great, had in mind this historical legend when she said in an interview with the Sun newspaper:
"I have friends, by the way, feminists who said: And what will happen to you with the horse in the film?"



Helen Mirren as Catherine II


Due to the widespread occurrence of this kind of "jokes" in the imperial House of Romanov, they did not like talking about this empress, the theme of Catherine II was taboo in their circle, any mention of it in the presence of Nicholas I, Alexander II or Alexander III was considered a terrible "bad manners."

But Valentin Pikul did the almost impossible - he completely rehabilitated not only Catherine II, but even some of her favorites.

But enough for now about Catherine. In the following articles we will talk about the conspiracy against Peter III, and then about the circumstances of the murder of this emperor and his "posthumous adventures."
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  1. +6
    2 October 2019 06: 57
    Thank you for the interesting article ... Yes, they did not let the "first liberal" "work" ... Or maybe it is correct ..
    1. +3
      2 October 2019 22: 44
      The Author's rants that East Prussia, which has sworn allegiance to the Russian Empire and is not recognized by the "world community," to put it mildly, have no basis. Then for sure recognition based on bayonet strength, the strength of which was demonstrated by the Russian Imperial Army, which smashed to smithereens Frederick at Kunersfdorf. What do we have on "clean exhaust"? If Elizabeth had lived a little longer, then we would have received the present Kaliningrad with its environs almost 200 years earlier and we would have eliminated the German bridgehead for eastern conquests, to which Ivan the Terrible (Livonian Order) was still striving. And so, Koniksberg and the "region" quite legitimately swore allegiance to the Russian Crown, and Peter the Third profiled it all .. request
  2. -1
    2 October 2019 07: 14
    Peter III, brought up as the Swedish heir to the throne, and of course he was poorly versed in Russian affairs, hence the excessively prolific lawmaking.
    A.S. Pushkin himself received in full, for his stray life, why did he rebuke Catherine II
    1. 0
      9 October 2019 09: 49
      Here you have absolutely no idea what is going on in your head - a boy who has been living in Russia since the age of 11, and only 12 years later came to the throne, continuously being there, but "was brought up as the Swedish heir to the throne, and of course he did not understand Russian affairs well" , yeah.
      1. -2
        9 October 2019 09: 59
        Quote: Vladimir Borisovich
        That's completely without a clue what is going on in your head

        It’s not clear what was going on in the head of this boy, who not easy abandoned in Russia.
        1. 0
          9 October 2019 10: 06
          Yes, you can write anything now, what you wrote above is nonsense.
  3. +1
    2 October 2019 07: 21
    History is an interesting thing. Involuntarily, you begin to compare with today's day. It is not known how good Karl Ulrich would have been on the Russian throne, but Sophia-Augusta has not forgotten her homeland either. In honor of Saxony, she established the Order of Flowers of Saxony.
  4. +3
    2 October 2019 07: 22
    Nevertheless, the exchange for what has not been won is the traditional sharing of the skin of an unkilled bear.
  5. -5
    2 October 2019 08: 04
    I read it to East Prussia cut off from Russia and didn’t go any further, the author had some kind of reality of no relation to the 18th century, he obviously doesn’t know that the Commonwealth was actually a vassal state in relation to Russia
    1. VLR
      +9
      2 October 2019 08: 28
      And I would advise you to read "uncomfortable" things. Because there is a great chance to learn something new. For example, the fact that Poland is a "vassal" state in relation to Russia can be called with some stretch only since 1764 (two years after the Conspiracy), when the country ascended to the throne Catherine's lover - Stanislav August Ponyatovsky. Yes, and this vassalage was very relative - already in 1767, Catherine's envoy N.V. Repnin had to convene a Seim in his own name - in order to correct the unfriendly policy of Ponyatovsky. Frederick II acted as an ally of Russia: unexpectedly, right? and I said that there was nothing to fight with this king, it was possible and necessary to negotiate with him. In response, the Bar Confederation was created and the uprising began with the massacre of Russians and Orthodox. And then there was the Targovitsa Confederation and the Russian-Polish war ...
      In general, dear, read, it will not be worse.
      1. +6
        2 October 2019 13: 19
        “However, at that time Russia was going through a heroic phase of its ethnogenesis - a stage of ascent. P.A. Rumyantsev, A.V. Suvorov, M.F.Kamensky, F.F.Ushakov, Russian soldiers and sailors would have won under any emperor."
        Author, I apologize, where does such an ambitious and to put it mildly stupid statement come from? And why, then, did the Russian soldiers and sailors lose the Crimean War, and what was the purely lost Russian-Japanese how ?! Maybe all the same, everything depends on the head and on the ability of this very head to put on the top the most talented and smart ones. Why smear the Empress called GREAT with so much dirt ?!
        1. VLR
          -6
          2 October 2019 13: 31
          why, then, did the Russian soldiers and sailors lose the Crimean War, and what was the purely lost Russian-Japanese how ?!
          Because the phase of ethnogenesis has changed: the ascent phase has ended, the akmatics began, the apogee of which was the three revolutions of the beginning of the 20 century.
          1. +6
            2 October 2019 14: 25
            Excuse me, are you in all seriousness or is it such an overt banter? What kind of nonsense are you talking about? What the hell are "phases"?
            Wars are won not only on the battlefield. First of all, it is the provision and training of troops. And from whom it depends if not on the monarch, general secretary or president, call it what you want. Ability to edit is primarily the ability to select and put smart and competent people to key positions. Catherine II, like Peter I, knew how to do this and became GREAT and it does not matter whether you recognize this fact or not. For the whole world, they are such, and your excuse for the opinion of the amateur does not bother anyone.
            1. +10
              2 October 2019 15: 30
              Quote: Alexander Suvorov
              Excuse me, are you in all seriousness or is it such an undisguised banter?

              The author is a supporter of the theory of passionarity of L. Gumilyov. So this is serious. If you are unfamiliar with this theory, try to study its fundamentals and basic concepts, it will not take much time, but you can better understand the author. It is only necessary to bear in mind that in general the scientific community rejected this theory, that is, into the system scientific knowledge of the world, it is not included.
              1. +5
                2 October 2019 15: 41
                "You just need to keep in mind that the scientific community in general rejected this theory, that is, it is not included in the system of scientific knowledge about the world."[B] [/ b]
                Here is the key phrase with which I fully agree!
                By the way, reading your comments is sometimes much more interesting than the articles of some "authors". Although I don't always agree with you, I feel that you are a pro in some matters! hi
              2. +4
                2 October 2019 18: 52
                Michael, what is the criterion for entering the system of scientific knowledge?

                The theory of passionarity is interesting, but not comprehensive.

                It is like continuity and discreteness, which can complement each other.
              3. +1
                3 October 2019 23: 38
                Quote: Trilobite Master

                The author is a supporter of the theory of passionarity of L. Gumilyov.

                What does this have to do with it? To some extent, I am also a separator of Gumilyov's theory, but it is impossible for theft, bungling and simple degradation of the economy (due to the above-mentioned "indicators", to push it into the decline of passionarity! This way you can reach insanity. Serdyukov and his whore .ha Vasilyeva steal - this is the decline of passionarity! Yeltsin and company banally drank half of Russia's national wealth - this change of ethnogenesis! Beauty, and only! good
          2. +1
            3 October 2019 23: 25
            Quote: VlR
            was replaced ethnogenesis phase: the ascent phase was ending, it was starting Akmatic, climax which became the three revolutions of the early 20th century

            Classics of the genre! On the topic of how to conceal uniform stupidity with abstruse phrases! belay
  6. +9
    2 October 2019 08: 10
    An interesting article, but too one-sided in my opinion. So Peter 3 is seen all in white and "usurper" Catherine with her lovers. You can consider the article as an advertisement for the books of Comrade Ryzhov V.A., but the desire to read them, after this article, somehow does not arise. Well this is purely my opinion winked
    1. VLR
      -1
      2 October 2019 08: 16
      The article is deliberately polemically focused, because it aims to break through the blank wall of stereotypes.
      1. 0
        2 October 2019 10: 58
        and where can I download your books? since mention of them ..
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      1. +2
        2 October 2019 12: 20
        desire only continuously, according to the historical template from e2, to glorify the great harlot

        And where did I even say a word about the "glorification" of Catherine? It's easy to see everything in two tones - black and white.
    3. +5
      2 October 2019 14: 08
      And so Peter 3 is all in white

      Well, he does not see in white. Just legal) Honestly, part of his legislative initiatives, in my opinion, is quite controversial in terms of usefulness for the then Russia. So not a genius, no. But legal.
      1. +3
        2 October 2019 15: 03
        So no one with the legality and does not argue. The comrade points out an incredible number of "brilliant" decrees for such a short reign.
      2. +1
        2 October 2019 15: 56
        At least he has more rights to the throne than Catherine
  7. +4
    2 October 2019 08: 15
    This is what the decree of Peter 1 on the Succession led to.
    the abolition of a single order - and as a consequence of the era of the Palace coups.
    Peter 3 is certainly a very controversial person
  8. +4
    2 October 2019 08: 15
    Dear Valery! You always get excellent materials, which, for example, I read with great pleasure. You know how to find a "historical gap", crawl into it and show it from the inside, and always quite deeply. The only wish is to be more attentive to the captions under the "pictures". And then many VO users crave "scientific" in this matter. Please do not offend them. Good luck!
    1. VLR
      +3
      2 October 2019 08: 33
      Thank you very much, it is always nice to receive such feedback from you.
    2. +4
      2 October 2019 12: 54
      I assure you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, your right to receive maramoy from the audience is far from exclusive. When dear Valery enters the territory of "modern history", he gets his share in full! As a rule, from your favorite opponent, well, yours truly is applied.
      With immense respect for both of you,
      Sincerely yours
      A. Bazhin
      1. +1
        2 October 2019 19: 01
        I just have a soul for him and it hurts ... no for myself!
  9. -2
    2 October 2019 09: 06
    It is known that during the time spent by Peter III on the throne, he prepared and published 192 laws and decrees - more than 30 per month. In this connection, an interesting question arises: when did he still have time to get drunk?
    Right in the morning I got up, had breakfast and wrote a decree. And so every day, both on weekdays and on holidays. I wonder if the author wrote this series of articles in one day too? Or maybe in the morning, with a hangover, he pushed what the "neighbors" would bring?
    Russia had no rights to the Prussian kingdom, and this conquest would never have been recognized by other monarchs of Europe.

    And this is directly from the speech of Poroshenko / Zelensky about the current Crimea.
    After the reference to A. Herzen, who earned money by throwing mud at Russia, there is no desire to further analyze this "historical work".
    1. +4
      2 October 2019 09: 48
      Quote: Amateur
      I got up right in the morning, had breakfast and wrote a Decree. And so every day, on weekdays and on holidays.

      In the morning I smear a sandwich -
      Immediately thought: what about the people?
      And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
      And compote does not pour into your mouth!

      I will stand at the window at night.
      And stand all night without sleep
      All worried about Rasee,
      How is it, poor, is she? (with) laughing
      1. VLR
        -1
        2 October 2019 10: 34
        This is about Catherine II, very suitable.
        1. +5
          2 October 2019 12: 39
          It suits many rulers.
    2. +1
      2 October 2019 12: 04
      "Russia did not have any rights to the Prussian kingdom" - Would it bother you to bring the rights of Russia to the Prussian kingdom?
    3. VLR
      -2
      2 October 2019 12: 40
      "And this is straight from the speech of Poroshenko / Zelensky about the current Crimea":
      With one clarification: Russia had and still has the right to Crimea. And she has practically 100% support for the Crimean population.
      Russia entrusted rights to part of East Prussia only in the 20 century - after Germany unconditionally surrendered (and Friedrich was not going to surrender). Moreover, the entire German population from this area after the victory in the Second World War was evicted. As was evicted in the part of Prussia, Prussian Silesia, and Danzig that had departed to Poland. If not for this circumstance, there would be no Kaliningrad region within the Russian Federation now. And there would be no Polish Silesia, Polish East Prussia, Polish Danzig. But the Russian Crimea will always be.
      Do you understand the difference?
      1. +5
        2 October 2019 12: 54
        If not for this circumstance, there would be no Kaliningrad region within the Russian Federation now.

        Which one? USSR victory over Nazi Germany?
        After the capture of Konigsberg by Russian troops during the Seven Years War of 1758-1762, the population of East Prussia swore allegiance to Elizaveta Petrovna and began to be called the "General Government of East Prussia" within Russia.
        What is taken from the battle is holy (Suvorov A.V.)

        Do you understand the difference?

        “Have the courage to use your own mind.” - Immanuel Kant, Citizen of the Russian Empire
        1. VLR
          -2
          2 October 2019 13: 13
          German Prussia with a Lutheran population would never have become a province of Russia. It was a completely alien fragment that would never have grown. And none of the neighbors would have allowed Russia to preserve it. Prussia and Austria barely agreed to "share" with Russia the Slavs-Poles alien to Europe (although the Poles tried their best to "be Europeans"). And the emergence of Polish territories inhabited by Catholics as part of Russia became a terrible headache for the empire. But Holstein is another matter: the local Germans were ready to voluntarily and conscientiously serve their duke, who became the emperor of Russia. And none of the European powers had a legitimate reason either to "intercede" for them, or to recognize them as "annexed" or "conquered."
          1. 0
            2 October 2019 13: 32
            "German Prussia with a Lutheran population would never have become a province of Russia."
            What are you ...? But what about the Kaliningrad region ...? Or am I missing something?
            1. VLR
              +2
              2 October 2019 13: 54
              In the Kaliningrad region since 1945 there are no Germans and there are no Lutherans - only Russians. Didn’t you know? Really?
              1. +2
                2 October 2019 14: 18
                Oh really? Isn’t there a single German left? And what prevented Elizabeth from doing the same?
                1. VLR
                  -1
                  2 October 2019 14: 34
                  Frederick II, who was not defeated, and the whole of Europe, which would stand on its hind legs.
                  1. -1
                    2 October 2019 14: 42
                    That Frederick was not defeated? The author, to be honest, I'm starting to worry about your state of mind. So slowly people are going crazy.
                    And about Europe, no one even blundered when East Prussia gave the oath to Elizabeth ...
                    However, everything is clear to me with you, an alternative story is contagious, brains completely off ...!
                    1. VLR
                      -1
                      2 October 2019 14: 58
                      Yes, he was not defeated in the Seven Years War; all his failures and defeats were tactical, not strategic. And therefore was recognized by all the Great. And Russia did not need to defeat him, not even fight him. The defeat of Frederick in this war meant the strengthening of Austria - Russia's main rival in Europe at that time. Russia entered the Seven Years' War because of the betrayal of Bestuzhev and the stupidity of Elizabeth. Russia lost everything that it could gain for participating in this war because of Catherine, who first killed the legitimate emperor, who concluded a treaty fantastically beneficial for Russia with Frederick, and then, in exchange for recognizing her rights, refused this super-beneficial contract.
                      1. -3
                        2 October 2019 15: 14
                        I’m saying that an alternative story is contagious, and look that you will start throwing bites at opponents. And 40 injections in the stomach is painful.
                        I consider it senseless to enter into a discussion about the results of the Seven Years War, because it is easier to break through a wall with your forehead than your perverted "logic" ...
              2. +9
                2 October 2019 18: 17
                and you won’t tell which empire Lifland was included in since 1710. Kurland. Estonia. Ostsey krai. And what religion was there about the population.
          2. +6
            2 October 2019 13: 48
            German Prussia with a Lutheran population would never have become a province of Russia. It was an absolutely alien fragment that would never have grown.

            Author! Have you ever heard of the "Volga Germans"?
            In total, more than 1763 people were transported to Russia from 1766 to 30000.
            . And how many Germans who accepted Russian citizenship lived in the Russian Empire?
            According to the 1939 census, there were 1427,3 thousand Germans in the territory of the USSR.
            ... The Germans are the only Europeans who have massively taken root in Russia. And at the expense of "Lutheranism", so Russia was an absolutely tolerant country.
            On one Nevsky Prospekt, such churches as Orthodox, Catholic, Lutheran, Armenian feel great in the immediate vicinity. If you follow a little further, you can see nearby Finnish and Swedish cathedrals.
            1. VLR
              -1
              2 October 2019 14: 01
              The Volga Germans are mainly refugees who, for some reason, were persecuted in their homeland, outcasts who became voluntary colonists who accepted the "rules of the game." There is no need to compare them with the "settled" and all content (including "old Fritz") population of "Prussia.
              As for religious tolerance - ask the Old Believers persecuted by Russian emperors and empresses (including Catherine II). And the Jews with their "Pale of Settlement" and pogroms.
              The Lutherans, among whom there were many "foreign specialists", were simply "allowed to live" in their circle. An unspoken agreement: you and your Lutheranism sit quietly and do not protrude anywhere. At the slightest attempt to preach - the most severe repression.
              1. +2
                2 October 2019 14: 17
                Volga Germans - refugees
                Who were they running from? They were voluntary immigrants with many benefits and privileges.
                As for tolerance - among Old Believers persecuted by Russian emperors

                Are the names of the Ryabushinsky, Rakhmanovs, Kuznetsovs, Morozovs saying anything to you? Or do you mean religious fanatics who burned themselves or fled to Paraguay?
                About "poor Jews"
                For the first time, the Politburo of the Central Committee of the RSDLP (b), headed by Lenin, was formed at a meeting of the Central Committee on October 10 (23), 1917 for the political leadership of the armed uprising (it included A. Bubnov, G. Zinoviev (Apfelbaum), G. Kamenev (Rosenfeld) L. B., Lenin (Blank ???) V.I., Sokolnikov (Brilliant) G. Ya., Stalin I.V., Trotsky (Bronstein) L.D.).
                .
                I won’t comment on anything else.
                Everyone has the right to their own version of an alternative story. Including the author of these articles. fool
                1. VLR
                  -1
                  2 October 2019 14: 31
                  1. Most of the Volga Germans were precisely refugees - supporters of some small sect, persecuted in their homeland. That is why they did not move one by one, but dozens and hundreds - all members of the sect followed their leader. And the privileges they had were such that many of the Germans of the Volga region joined the "Emperor-Emperor Peter Fedorovich" - that is, to Pugachev.
                  2. And the names of tens of thousands of Old Believers, beaten by whips, thrown into the monastery pits and sent to Siberia, of course, you do not know? And unknown to anyone, unfortunately. As for the Ryabushinsky, Morozovs and others: Can you imagine how many such talented people we would have if they had not been pursued by the tsarist government? How many talented people Russia has lost because of the stupidity of those in power.
                  3. "About the poor Jews" - these are the words of S.Yu. Witte:
                  “The Jewish pogrom in Chisinau (April 1903) drove the Jews crazy and pushed it completely into the revolution. A terrible, but even more idiotic policy! ”
                  Not Lenin, not Plekhanov, not Trotsky, this is recognized by one of the most capable successful politicians of the era of Nicholas II - Witte
                  He also - about tsarist Russia: "This mentally abnormal regime is an interweaving of cowardice, blindness, cunning and stupidity."
                  And who is to blame for the fact that the Jews did not go into commerce, as everywhere else, but into revolution?
                  1. +4
                    2 October 2019 18: 19
                    name at least one German small sect? YOU REPAIR. FIRST.
  10. +1
    2 October 2019 09: 17
    "Russia had no rights to the Prussian kingdom, and this conquest would never have been recognized by other monarchs of Europe.", - all you need to know about the author of the article.
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  12. +7
    2 October 2019 09: 48
    Pavel, who came to power, discovered that 1541 fictitious officers were listed in the horse guard alone.

    Paul, embittered by a long stay "at the back of the throne", about which everyone and everyone was not lazy wiped their feet, that he tried to force the guard to serve, and not "be numbered." And he behaved quite unceremoniously with the officers. The same Sablukov recalls that many of his comrades, going on guard, preferred to have a certain amount of money with them - if they accidentally ran into the emperor's wrath, they could go straight from the guard to somewhere in a more distant garrison. But the Transfiguration soldiers loved Paul - the "knight on the throne" generously distributed them meat, vodka and cash gifts. soldier
    I would like to add - when Pavel ordered to "bury" papa with mamma, he committed an "innocent prank" over one of Peter's tormentors - Count Alexei Orlov. More precisely, he ordered him to carry the crown as part of the procession. wink the crown of his sacrifice ... The old count whimpered, ached that his legs hurt and did not obey, and then Paul barked: "Get up and carry it !!!" am Hmm .. Orlov, from somewhere a moment appeared forces! laughing Although then there was a tantrum. request But! this is just one of the evidence! perhaps the count participated in the procession only for a while. hi
    To the author of the article: Valery, there is a book "Peter III. The Mystery of Death". There, its author examines in detail some events.
    https://www.litres.ru/oleg-ivanov-10627546/petr-iii-zagadka-smerti/chitat-onlayn/
    it is interesting to compare the documents in it about how Paul "crowned" the remains of Peter. The general conclusion is that it is clear that nothing is clear. All eyewitnesses say different things, and it's even incomprehensible what kind of crown the ceremony was performed! hi well, and about the whimpering Orlov - the same thing.drinks
    1. VLR
      0
      2 October 2019 09: 56
      Ahead is another very interesting article - about the circumstances of the murder of Peter, and his "posthumous adventures". Including about the reburial of his ashes by Paul will be told.
      1. +3
        2 October 2019 10: 07
        Well, so we, mur-meow, look forward to! wink
        about the circumstances of the murder of Peter

        perhaps this is the most mysterious murder of the monarch in our history .... what
  13. +4
    2 October 2019 10: 08
    If you believe the false memoirs of his murderers, all 186 days after the death of Elizabeth, Peter was engaged only in drinking with the Holstein people in Oranienbaum - they say, at last the man got to free and unlimited Russian vodka (just like Yeltsin in our 90s).

    These are testimonies of the ORIGINS, no worse than yours
    .
    In this connection, an interesting question arises: when did he still have time to get drunk?

    The witness Prince Shcherbatov speaks well about "law-making": in the essay "On the Damage of Morals in Russia" he gives the history of the creation of the famous "The manifesto on the liberties of the nobility", Exempting the nobility from compulsory public service. Allegedly, Pyotr Fedorovich, trying to hide from the official favorite, Countess Elizaveta Vorontsova, her nightly fun with another lover - Princess Elena Kurakina - said publicly to his secretary Dmitry Volkov that this night they should be busy with public amenities. Vorontsova went to bed, the emperor went to have fun, and Volkov was locked in his office with a stack of paper. The next morning, the emperor’s alibi - the manifesto “On the granting of liberty and freedom to the entire Russian nobility” - was ready. However, Volkov forgot in the law to mention the service of the nobles in wartime, did not indicate measures against the mass resignation of landowners and did not write anything about the abolition of corporal punishment of the nobles. Yes

    Many of these decrees and manifestos did not appear suddenly: they were still being prepared under Elizabeth one of "Stated commissions”-“ The Commission on the compilation of a new Code ”in 1754, and was accepted with the filing of Roman Vorontsov, Ivan Shuvalov, Dmitry Volkov and other Elizabethan dignitaries remaining at the throne of Peter Fedorovich. The laid-down Commission continued its work under Catherine the Great.

    Karl was much more interested in the internal affairs ... the war with Denmark, absolutely foreign to Russia and absolutely unnecessary to her.

    At the same time, this Nedonsk betrayed the results of the terrible Seven Years War declared Prussia Russia.

    The defeated Prussia he returned RUSSIAN (for 4 years) the territory of Prussia. E. Kant was already a citizen of Russia. Karl Ulrich fed the Prussians (supposedly ravaged by Russia) ... with Russian bread.

    If we turn to the ridiculous analogy of the author with Yeltsin’s times, the following happened in this context: It is as if the USSR legally and practically RETURNED the Kaliningrad region ..... Germany.
    fool
    What was left for Catherine to start again ... the war again? She had to withdraw troops from the territory of another country.

    It is not without reason that for these merits (he betrayed Russia) to .... Prussia, Karl Ulrich was awarded the HIGHER Orders of Prussia, this: Order of the Black Eagle - the highest order of the Kingdom of Prussia and the Order of Merit), a former higher military Prussia award.

    The petty attacks on Catherine the Great through swarming in bed and dirty gossip are simply absurd: History gave its assessments through the lips of its great laborers.

    Nikolay Karamzin, Great Russian historian:
    we listen to the heavenly voice of Catherine: "O Russians! You who were so dear to My heart; whose happiness was My happiness; whom I gazed upon with the joy of the Mother, who sees the prosperity of her children! If I have enriched Russia with new borders and peoples, I have adorned your brow palm tree of victory, thundered in three parts of the world and was famous for you, then My glory was a guarantee of your strength and security; wanting the world to fear you, I only wanted you to be afraid of no one. If My laws limit the natural freedom of man, then be sure that I sacrificed a part of freedom only to a single integrity of the civil order and preferred your only well-being to your independence; I did not grant you those rights alone that could be harmful to you. I enlightened you, Russians! Consequently, I did not want to oppress humanity. And if My reign has not yet elevated Russia to the highest degree of national bliss, then remember that the sovereign's power is not Heavenly omnipotence,Whose will is already doing; remember that Empires have flourished for centuries, and that Providence requires only the best from the Kings. But I have shown you a great goal: flow to it, shaded by My laurels, guided by My laws! And when all the peoples of the earth will envy your share; when the name of the Russian will be the name of the happiest citizen in the world - then the secret vows of My heart will be fulfilled; then you will know what I wanted, but what I could not do; and your gratitude will honor My deeds and My will equally: the only reward to which good Monarchs can be sensitive even after their death! "

    And I swear by your name, O fellow citizens! In the name of all our posterity, that the memory of Catherine the Great will be ETERNALLY BLESSED in Russia.
    1. VLR
      0
      2 October 2019 10: 32
      1. Testimonies trying to whitewash themselves, traitors, traitors and murderers do not deserve any trust.
      2. Prince Shcherbatov's anecdote has long been thrown into the trash.
      3. Prussia did not declare war on Russia, Frederick least of all in the world wanted a war with our country.
      4. Peter III did not return anything to Frederick II - Prussia returned him without any conditions Catherine.
      5. The Karmazin quoted by you about the murder of Peter III wrote:
      "the deceived Europe all this time judged this sovereign from the words of his mortal enemies or their vile supporters."
      6. Have you read my articles? It seems to me - no.
      1. +1
        2 October 2019 12: 10
        Quote: VlR
        1. Testimonies trying to whitewash themselves, traitors, traitors and murderers do not deserve any trust.

        What kind of court did they recognize as such? Your prejudice is visible to the naked eye.
        Quote: VlR
        2. Prince Shcherbatov's anecdote has long been thrown into the trash.

        And who threw it away? Do not Howl?
        The historian Soloviev was of the same opinion as Shcherbatov
        Quote: VlR
        3. Prussia did not declare war on Russia, Frederick least of all in the world wanted a war with our country.

        The Russian government, entering the war, was guided by the consideration that “Put sufficient limits on the power of such a sovereign, which unrighteous plans know no limits ”. the Russian government wanted its entry into the war put an end to the seizures of Frederick II in the Baltic.
        Quote: VlR
        4. Peter III did not return anything to Frederick II - Prussia returned him without any conditions Catherine.

        S.M. Soloviev,
        “Peter III, having unlimited respect for Frederick II, immediately upon his accession to the throne hastened to end the war with Prussia, renounced all conquests, ordered the Russian troops in Pomerania to hand over their stores to the Prussians, and sent aid to the inhabitants of Prussia, ravaged by Russian troops. .. "


        In March 1762, the representative of Frederick II, Baron R. Goltz, arrived in Petersburg with an order to congratulate Peter III on his accession to the throne. Remaining as plenipotentiary minister at the Russian court, Goltz began to negotiate a peace treaty. The king of Prussia was sure the Russian emperor will demand significant territorial concessions from him, and therefore in the instructions Goltz allowed to give East Prussia to Russia. However, these fears were in vain: the Russian emperor Goltz announced that he would be glad to accept the draft peace treaty developed by Frederick II. The Prussian king was not slow to take advantage of the proposal and sent a draft peace treaty, in which, of course, there was no talk of any concessions. When Chancellor Vorontsov tried to object to the Prussian project, Goltz, in a personal conversation with Peter III, obtained full approval of the project.

        According to the St. Petersburg Peace Treaty, the state of war between Russia and Prussia was declared terminated. The Russian emperor pledged to make efforts to restore European peace, for which, first of all, he refused all obligations, by virtue of which he had to participate in the war against Prussia. All the Prussian territories occupied by Russian troops were returned to the Prussian king https://www.prlib.ru/history/619219
        What was left for Catherine to start again ... the war again? She had to withdraw troops from the territory of another country.


        Quote: VlR
        The Karmazin quoted by you about the murder of Peter III wrote:
        "deceived Europe has been judging this sovereign all this time

        Yes: (Karamzin):
        Fellow citizens! Oh the glory of Russia! Under the heavens of a gracious fatherland on his throne, in his crown and porphyry shone Peter and Catherine. They were ours - and the love of the Almighty captured them with His seal! So, Catherine appeared on the throne to revive, to magnify the creation of Peter; in Her hand the withered rod of the Immortal again blossomed, and His holy Shadow calmed down in the fields of eternity; Catherine the Second, in the strength of her creative spirit and in the active wisdom of government, was the direct successor of Great Peter; the space dividing them disappears in history. And two minds, two characters, so different among themselves, subsequently make up an amazing harmony for the happiness of the Russian people! To affirm the glory of the courageous, bold, formidable Peter, forty years after Him, Catherine should reign;


        Catherine was known in Germany for her beauty, intelligence and modest courtesy, when Elizabeth called on her to decorate the Russian Court. She was born for autocracy. The meekness, the pleasantness of the mind, the innate art of captivating the soul of people with a single word, with a single look made the love of the Court universal for Her. He was a school for Catherine, who had the benefit of noting his magical game, not yet being on the throne. Here Her penetrating gaze revealed the weaknesses of the human heart, the dangers of the Kings and the cunning methods used by cunning to seduce them: the discovery is important for science to reign! Here She read in kind hearts all the secret desires of the true sons of the fatherland; the quiet voice of the Patriots reached Her gentle hearing ... They spoke with enthusiasm about Peter the Great and His great intentions.

        And Catherine on the throne! ..

        Fellow citizens! Catherine is immortal With her victories, wise laws and beneficent institutions
        :
        Quote: VlR
        6. Have you read my articles? It seems to me - no.

        What am I ... answering? belay
        1. +3
          2 October 2019 12: 41
          Bravo!!! I fully support you !!
          History writers no longer know how to promote their "works".
        2. VLR
          -3
          2 October 2019 12: 47
          You answer for yourself. The same arguments throughout three different articles.
          1. -3
            2 October 2019 14: 15
            Quote: VlR
            You answer for yourself.

            belay
            You are not me.
            Quote: VlR
            Same arguments over three different articles

            For example?
            1. VLR
              -5
              2 October 2019 14: 18
              For example, ALL. The same thing - sometimes verbatim, sometimes - in slightly different words.
              1. -3
                2 October 2019 14: 28
                Quote: VlR
                For example, EVERYTHING.

                So, NOTHING.
      2. +5
        2 October 2019 14: 15
        Valery, I would not resolutely reject the memories of Dashkova, Panin, Bolotov and Catherine the Great's Notes, but when reading these documents, I remembered that they were enemies of Peter Ulrich. By the way, you also do not neglect them, but choose only what suits you.
  14. +6
    2 October 2019 10: 29
    and Russian people were no longer sold by Crimean Tatars in Cafes, but Russian landowners - like cattle, in four all-Russian slave markets: in St. Petersburg, Moscow, Nizhny Novgorod, Samara.

    Among the many rich Parisian beau monde, Prince Kurakin stood out with his golden caftan, which was entirely lined with large diamonds. The wife of his consul, the flirty beauty Labenskaya, he asked in surprise:
    - Darling, why is everyone looking at me like that?
    “They are trying to evaluate, prince, how many villages with peasants you sold to blind everyone with your caftan.”
    “I don’t know myself,” sighed Kurakin ...

    Valery, despite your dislike for Pikul, I could not resist to quote "To each his own" wink
    It is interesting that during his accession to the throne, Peter's son, Paul, distributed several thousand state peasants to serfs to his entourage (Alexander Borisovich Kurakin, the "diamond prince", was probably among them, as he was a friend of Paul). fellow I handed it out because I sincerely believed that with a good landowner, a serf would be better off living than without a landowner .. what the emperor himself was informed that the newly made serfs received the news with glee... No.
    1. VLR
      +1
      2 October 2019 10: 45
      Yes, gentlemen have always considered themselves the benefactors of their slaves. Though in Russia, even in the USA, even in Greece ...
      And many modern rulers, probably, are informed about the "reception of the news with glee" every day.
      By the way, I have no dislike for Pikul - after all, in my school years I read “everything”. With annoyance, sometimes when I suddenly see the obvious absurdity. But I understand that, all the same, there are no more reliable historical novels.
      1. +5
        2 October 2019 10: 49
        And many modern rulers, probably, are informed about the "reception of the news with glee" every day.

        "The government lives on another planet, Native!" (boy Bi, "Kin-dza-dza") Ku! drinks their brains think differently, Valery .... No.
        But Paul really could think in a peculiar way. On the other hand, you’ll sit as a recluse in Gatchina - you’ll also grow into such strange things! hi
        With annoyance, sometimes when I suddenly see the absurdity.

        Valentin Savvich lied godlessly. But personally, I believe that he also gives some "image of the era". Yes, he wrote brightly! That is, you cannot take him for a historian, but you can read it for the soul.
      2. -2
        2 October 2019 12: 35
        Quote: VlR
        But I understand that, anyway, there are no more reliable historical novels.

        It is difficult to imagine more bad books, the so-called "historical" ones, like that of Pikul. By the way, you mention it quite often.
        1. VLR
          0
          2 October 2019 12: 44
          Others are even worse. At least you can read Pikul. But other "historical" ones I usually leave on pages 10-20.
          1. -1
            2 October 2019 12: 54
            Others have less "spreading cranberries", about Anna Ioannavna this writer misinterpreted everything, the general meaning of the novel - the empress only loved to eat boiled pork, and of course to have fun. Nothing more.
            He would have been "set" against Peter III in due time, he would have composed.
  15. +5
    2 October 2019 10: 37
    Perhaps the second positive mention of Karl-Peter in my memory. The first was seen in the city of Kiel, where a monument to him with a text about his noble deeds was erected relatively recently, the second is this polemical article.
    1. +7
      2 October 2019 10: 46
      The first was seen in the city of Kiel, where a monument was erected to him relatively recently.

      There are two such monuments, and both are of the same author. The second in Oranienbaum, at the Palace of Peter III in the place where Peterstadt used to be - a funny fortress. The photo was taken by my girlfriend. drinks
      1. +2
        2 October 2019 19: 10
        Yes, I looked at him last year ... Only it was in the summer ...
        1. +1
          3 October 2019 09: 47
          here is infa. wink
          https://topwar.ru/158768-petershtadt-broshennaja-igrushka-petra-iii.html
          1. +1
            3 October 2019 19: 26
            Yeah, I was there just at the beginning of June 2018. I went around everything I could, part of the paths was under reconstruction, but I couldn’t get into the Oranienbaum Palace itself - we arrived exactly on the day off. I wanted to stick a couple of my pictures - only for now I can not find where I am doing laughing
            1. 0
              4 October 2019 00: 26
              I wanted to stick a couple of my pictures - only for now I can not find where I am doing

              and I went to photograph three times. March April May. drinks but it’s beautiful there, especially if you know the history of this place.
              and it was not possible to get into the Oranienbaum Palace itself

              identity has never been. And I was not in the palace of Peter III, I repent. recourse He walked around - but didn’t go inside .. But there are (Peter's) things there! The palace of Peter III, as well as the other small buildings of Oranienbaum (not counting the Grand Palace and the gallery next to it) was opened in the warm season. It is also noted that on rainy days access may be terminated - it seems that they are afraid of damp! request
  16. 0
    2 October 2019 10: 49
    I do not agree with the author in everything, but - there would be more of such articles. This is our story. Thanks to the author!
  17. +1
    2 October 2019 11: 01
    Excellent article.
    "The old lady sweet lived
    Nice and a little bit prodigal
    Voltaire was the first friend
    She wrote the order, she burned the fleets,
    And she died boarding a ship. "
    The vessel in this case is the Polish throne, converted into a toilet seat.
  18. 0
    2 October 2019 11: 01
    The article is interesting, like the whole cycle, but I want to immediately note as conclusions that a person by the age of 30 did not get rid of youthful maximalism and did not know very well the history of the country where he rules. It is impossible to demolish the foundations in our country without clearing the glade, or without relying on part of the ruling group. The story of John Antonovich apparently did not impress, however his son later repeated his mistakes.
  19. +15
    2 October 2019 11: 02
    Valery, I pay tribute to your conviction of your rightness and the energy with which you uphold this righteousness. I will not go into subtleties and disassemble the article on individual points, it will take me too much time, since I am not familiar with the topic deeply enough. I can only say that, when reading, I drew attention to a selection of quotes characterizing Catherine and Peter. Some of their authors are familiar to me and, frankly, they do not inspire confidence in me. Take, for example, Boris Mironov - is it possible to refer to the polemic works of the political marginal in historical research? Evidence of English envoys, officials, etc. they also do not inspire full confidence (should we, readers, be surprised that with your pronounced Anglophobia they inspire confidence in you?), because they also aimed not to bring the general state of things in Russia to the general public, but to form a certain public opinion regarding her. Who are Aldanov and Valishevsky? One is an emigrant writer, the other is a pseudo-historical freak with a pathological tendency to dirty linen of others. Who is A.V. Stepanov who published his work on Catherine in London? I don’t know, answer this question yourself. But are Pushkin and Herzen professional historians in order to argue about historical facts on the basis of their opinions? They were not even people of science.
    Personally, I got the impression that once you formed your opinion on the issue under discussion, in the future you were exclusively engaged in searching, without disdaining any sources, for only facts, quotes, statements, interpretations confirming your idea, carefully selecting that corresponds to this idea and ruthlessly discarding the rest.
    Unfortunately, such an approach certainly harms objectivity and undermines the reader’s credibility.
    1. +8
      2 October 2019 13: 39
      Mikhail, I am delighted with your remarks: everything about the case
      1. +5
        2 October 2019 16: 04
        Thank you, Astra. smile
        Today there are a lot of good comments. We wish the author more objectivity and will wait for his next publications. smile
        1. +6
          2 October 2019 16: 54
          I agree, colleagues are trying to choose arguments, not stupid wit
          1. +4
            3 October 2019 00: 30
            And a deep bow from me, Beautiful Stranger! love
            "Yes, I'm a jester, I'm a circus performer, so what?
            Let me be so called nobles "(c) laughing
    2. VLR
      -3
      2 October 2019 16: 27
      Good afternoon, Michael. Honestly, I was somewhat surprised by your comments, I do not even answer right away. Because they seem to me to be formal. For example, you are not happy with the fact that Mark Aldanov is a writer. But he gave a brilliant wording, because of which I quoted him and included it in the text of the article. Do you essentially agree with his words or not? Or - since it’s not a professional historian, is that all, the conversation is over, “I won’t even read”? Or - you do not like Valishevsky. But I do not impose all of Valishevsky on you, but very interesting quotes about the “commodity-money” relations of Catherine with the “philosophers”. For the persons indicated in these quotes (Levec, Leclerc, Senac de Meylan), do you have any objections? Slander the Pole? Or is he telling the truth?
      Mironov, who wrote an article about the welfare of the people under different rulers, you also do not like. Good. But he is lying, when he speaks of increasing oppression of the taxable strata of the population under Catherine II? I strongly suspect not. Or do you have other numbers?
      Stepanov writes: “Neither the people nor the government cared about each other. The former completely ignored the opinion of its people, while the latter, being morally and physically cramped and burdened by excessive taxes and taxes, represented a silent mass that is beyond all laws. ”
      Do you strongly disagree with him? Was it different with “Mother Catherine”?
      You wonder why I (the Anglophobe, in your opinion) trust the English envoy Harris and his calculations of Catherine’s spending on favorites, which, by the way, are referred to in many works. Yes, because he did not write a pamphlet in a London tabloid newspaper, but a serious analytical note for his office. And his data roughly coincide with information from other sources.
      You reproach Pushkin and Herzen that they were "not people of science." But they, unlike us, could communicate not with books, but with living witnesses. In addition, Pushkin has a rather serious work, The History of the Pugachevsky Revolt. And he worked a lot in the archives, studying documents from the times of Catherine II and Peter I. Perhaps those that we don’t know about.
      1. +7
        2 October 2019 18: 45
        Yes, Valery, good afternoon. hi
        Once again I repeat that I do not want to go into particular, because I do not contain in my head all the necessary information for a detailed answer. Finding sources, refreshing them in memory and selecting the appropriate materials would take a very long time.
        In essence, I will answer your objection in general. You, as an author, have the right to attract for the confirmation of your point of view the one whom you consider necessary. I just drew attention to the fact that among those whose opinion you are urging us to listen to, unfortunately, there are regrettably few professional historians, whose opinion on this issue is for me personally much more authoritative than the opinion of, for example, Aldanov, if this opinion completely coincided with my own. But even this I can’t say, because, for example, this fragment:
        Her entire domestic policy was reduced to ensuring that the life of officers at her court and in the guard units was as profitable and enjoyable as possible.

        denounces in him a person biased, emotional and biased. Yes, you yourself are fine, I think you understand that all domestic politics cannot be limited to such primitive things, however, cite this quote to affect the reader emotionally. Almost the same thing can be said about the rest of the quotes you cited.
        Yes, Catherine distributed material goods to her favorites, but only to them? Did the generals, admirals, and state dignitaries not receive these benefits from her for their service on the battlefields and in the quiet of cabinets? And the favorites served only in bed? No, this is far from the case, but you forget to mention this, which again indicates your bias.
        Why do not you give the views of professional scientists? The answer suggests itself, correct me if I'm wrong. Professional historians, especially modern ones, avoid unambiguous assessments, trying to consider the problem from different perspectives, but you have already decided everything for yourself and you need an objective approach, you don’t need doubts and thoughts - everything should be unambiguous, but only publicists, writers and other amateurs in science, so you, in fact, are turning to them for support.
        I understood earlier that the goal of this cycle was not to try to figure it out yourself and bring to the attention of readers objective information about Peter III, for some reason you are trying to impose, to impose, influencing the emotions of the reader, using methods and methods inherent rather , modern media than research literature, their own point of view on this issue.
        In particulars, various figures and facts, you already have enough opponents, both today and in the comments on past materials, I will be simply superfluous here.
        If you or any of my colleagues here are interested in my opinion on the topic of the article, I will express it briefly: Peter III was not feeble-minded or flawed and could be a good person in his own way, but was completely incapable of managing the state, unlike his wife, that we were most clearly shown by two indisputable facts: Peter's instant loss of power after the death of Empress Elizabeth and the subsequent thirty-year uninterrupted reign of Catherine until her death. The murder of Peter, purely humanly, cannot be qualified as a "cruel crime", but given his personal qualities and the circumstances, objectively his death was inevitable.
        1. -1
          3 October 2019 09: 38
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          Why do not you bring opinions of professional scientists ? The answer suggests itself, correct me if I'm wrong.

          The author answered me about this: he called the great Russian scientists and historians V.O. Klyuchevsky and Soloviev ... "unreasonable".

          That's it ..... belay request
          1. VLR
            +3
            3 October 2019 10: 39
            You simply amaze me with your Jesuitism: I wrote that, having the opportunity to work with primary sources, it is unwise to refer to Klyuchevsky and Solovyov. And he explained why - all historians work in this case with the same set of documents. And, since history is a subjective science, each researcher interprets the same documents according to his preferences. And he indicated who usually makes compilations of Solovyov and Klyuchevsky - students in abstracts who want to "get off" as soon as possible.
            1. -3
              3 October 2019 11: 18
              Quote: VlR
              You simply amaze me with your Jesuitism: I wrote that, having the opportunity to work with primary sources, it is unreasonable to refer to Klyuchevsky and Solovyov

              Literally, you wrote the following::
              VLR
              I already wrote that ALL historians use the same sources. The difference is only in the interpretation. And that's why refer even to Solovyov, even to Klyuchevsky, even on Bilbasov - unreasonable

              Now answer: are these historians reasonable or not? Considering the statement about the "unreasonableness" of referencing them?

              referring to you, by the way, is it reasonable or not (yes / no)? belay
              Quote: VlR
              And he indicated who usually makes compilations of Solovyov and Klyuchevsky - students in essays who want to "get off" as soon as possible.

              The luminaries of science that referred to them are already indicated to you.
              They are all "students", yes ....

              But the name of the REAL scientist is, of course, Vl. Yes
          2. +4
            3 October 2019 11: 39
            Klyuchevsky, Soloviev, Karamzin and other historians of the century before last are undoubtedly outstanding people, but now, in my opinion, it is more appropriate to refer to them and cite them in historical research in the Historiography of the Question section. Historical science has already made great strides forward and many of their concepts and assessments are now being revised, which, of course, does not diminish their services to historical science.
            I honestly do not really know which of the modern historians is deeply engaged in the XVIII century. I can only name the Kipnis I mentioned earlier. But in my deep conviction, when researching any issue in the field of history, you need to get acquainted with what historians think about this issue, what recent works on this topic were published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, and only then form their own opinion and state it for readers.
            Unfortunately, Valery took a different path, apparently because he initially set himself other goals, not educational, but, let's say, journalistic in nature.
            Publicism, of course, should be exhibited in the "Opinions" section, but here I have no complaints about the administration - in this case, this line is very thin, in order to figure it out, it was necessary to carefully and thoughtfully work with the text, and this takes time and every article or a note on the site is impossible to study like that.
            1. -1
              3 October 2019 12: 56
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              Klyuchevsky, Soloviev, Karamzin and other historians of the century before last are undoubtedly outstanding people, but now, in my opinion, it is more appropriate to refer to them and cite them in historical research in the Historiography of the Question section.

              Why so? These are scientists with a sharp mind and extensive knowledge.

              Historical science is just such that, unlike, say, physics, much more knowledge in it, over the course of centuries, is not particularly added.

              Moreover, as close as possible to the events, the aforementioned historians knew the nuances and details of that era that we, after hundreds of years. unknown or incomprehensible.

              This, of course, does not apply to modern history, where historical knowledge is only discovered and cognized.

              IMHO.

              Quote: Trilobite Master
              Historical science has already stepped far forward and many of their concepts and assessments are now being reviewed,

              For example?
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              But in my deep conviction, when researching any issue in the field of history, you need to get acquainted with what historians think about this issue, what recent works on this topic were published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, and only then form their own opinion and state it for readers.

              I agree, and historians are interesting with alternative points of view.

              Regarding the topic of Peter 3, I, knowing the generally accepted point of view, read with interest the articles of the author.

              He did not convince me: you well stated the arguments above, I generally agree with them.
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              Unfortunately, Valery took a different path, apparently because he initially set himself other goals, not educational, but, let's say, journalistic in nature.

              A respected author somewhere here mentioned that the goal is precisely educational, something like: "Entertaining, educate."

              In general, it turned out interesting.
              1. +4
                3 October 2019 14: 11
                Quote: Olgovich
                Historical science is just such that, unlike, say, physics, much more knowledge in it, over the course of centuries, is not particularly added.

                It is added and significantly. New documents are being put into scientific circulation (letters of the pope to Alexander Nevsky, for example), archaeological research is underway, recall, at least the opening of birch bark letters, I'm not talking about the possibilities of modern science - dendrochronology, metallography, genetics, climatology, paleobotany, linguistics, criminalistics etc. It is also worth mentioning such auxiliary historical disciplines as source study, chronology, etc., which in the XIX century. were in their infancy.
                Quote: Olgovich
                as close to events as possible

                After three generations (60-70 years), there are practically no living eyewitnesses and only archives, documents, etc. can be used to study the past, these historians worked with these sources, and almost exclusively there were no others. I think that modern historians know much more about the past and their knowledge is fuller and more objective than that of nineteenth-century historians.
                Once again I repeat that I do not detract at all from the merits and merits of these people before science - they are huge, it is difficult to overestimate them. But their understanding of the historical process, and the level of their knowledge corresponded to their time. It is all the more surprising that even then they were able to create an integral picture of the history of Russia, in which their followers did not have to substantially, globally rule something.
                Quote: Olgovich
                For example?

                Offhand - a complete rethinking of the form and content of relations between Russia and the Horde or wider than Russia and the Steppe from ancient times until the XVI century.
                Quote: Olgovich
                A respected author somewhere here mentioned that the goal is precisely educational, something like: "Entertaining, educate."

                It seems to me that this declaration does not correspond to the content of this particular cycle, unlike the previous works of the author.
                1. -1
                  5 October 2019 11: 19
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  It is added and significantly. New documents are being put into scientific circulation (letters of the pope to Alexander Nevsky, for example), archaeological research is underway, recall, at least the opening of birch bark letters, I'm not talking about the possibilities of modern science - dendrochronology, metallography, genetics, climatology, paleobotany, linguistics, criminalistics etc. It is also worth mentioning such auxiliary historical disciplines as source study, chronology, etc., which in the XIX century. were in their infancy.

                  You are right, but what is SIGNIFICANTly changed in understanding the events made by the same Klyuchevsky and Soloviev?
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  After three generations (60-70 years), there are practically no living eyewitnesses and to study the past you can only use archives, documents, etc., these historians worked with these sources, and, almost exclusively, there were no others.

                  Karamzin was a contemporary of Catherine, Soloviev had the full opportunity to communicate with her contemporaries too.
                  And judging by myself: for me Khrushchev is a quite living contemporary, and not an abstract general secretary, I saw him on TV as such
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  I think that modern historians know much more about the past and their knowledge is fuller and more objective than that of nineteenth-century historians.

                  The author writes about this: what’s with him, that Kliuchevskogo-ONE and the same set of source tools
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  It is all the more surprising that even then they were able to create an integral picture of the history of Russia, in which their followers did not have to substantially, globally rule something.

                  I agree.
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  Offhand - a complete rethinking of the form and content of the relationship between Russia and the Horde or wider than Russia and the Steppe from ancient times until the XVI century

                  "Batu" - "Baty", "Mamay" - Mom? No really ....
                  1. +1
                    5 October 2019 14: 10
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    what is significantly changed

                    Essentially - a little, but there is. First of all, the role of the individual in global historical processes was radically revised towards reducing this very role and "transferring", if I may say so, "powers" of the main engine of history from the will of specific historical figures to objective economic processes that "replaced" this will. In addition, the ways of reading historical documents have changed, in particular, the most important thing, chronicles. If earlier the text of the chronicles was perceived exclusively literally, now this approach is rejected and the same chronicles are largely perceived by researchers not as a purely "protocol" presentation of events, but as a kind of more complex, "encoded" message addressed to contemporaries, but not entirely clear descendants.
                    If we take less global issues, then, as I said, the concept of relations with the Horde has been revised, the understanding of Russian-Scandinavian relations in the early periods of the Russian state has undergone no less revision and changes, the role of many historical figures has been rethought in the direction of avoiding polar assessments such as "good - bad", "progressive - backward" (the one that Valery is imposing on us now), etc. A lot of things, just not to list, and it is not necessary.
                    Concerning
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    "Batu" - Baty, "Mamai" - Mom

                    then this nonsense is not for me. This is not a story at all, it’s, I think, symptoms of a disease, which probably has a medical name, I just don’t have the leisure to look for it. But, of course, something related to the dementia of those who believe in this nonsense and broadcast it on various resources. It’s good that even here they basically stumbled.
                    1. +2
                      5 October 2019 19: 03
                      Quote: Trilobite Master
                      the same chronicles are largely perceived by researchers not as a purely "protocol" presentation of events, but as a kind of more complex, "coded" message addressed to contemporaries,

                      did the chroniclers themselves know about this? recourse
                      Quote: Trilobite Master
                      revised concept of relationship with the Horde

                      someone yes, someone no ...
                      Quote: Trilobite Master
                      The understanding of Russian-Scandinavian relations in the early periods of the Russian state underwent no less revision and changes, the role of many historical figures was rethought in the direction of avoiding polar assessments like "good - bad", "progressive - backward"

                      Normans and Slavs remained with their ... Maybe categorization diminished ....
                      1. 0
                        5 October 2019 20: 07
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        did the chroniclers themselves know about this?

                        What they knew, and most importantly, what they thought about the events they described, why the chronicles contain numerous repetitions and cliches, are full of allusions and "wandering plots", the roots of which lie in the Bible (and where are the roots of the biblical stories themselves?) pagan legends, what thought the chronicler wanted to bring to his contemporaries, including these plots in the narrative - these are the questions that are the subject of study.
                        I recommend to take an interest in this issue in order to better understand what I'm trying to present now. There is such a historian - Igor Danilevsky. It is extremely difficult to read it (to me, anyway), but you can listen to his lectures - they are quite interesting.
                        Quote: Olgovich
                        Normans and Slavs remained with their

                        Not at all. Archeology proved the Norman presence, for example, on the Volga and in Ladoga one hundred years before Rurik. Historians of the 19th century They could not know about this and, I think, such data would inevitably and significantly affect their concepts if they were available to them.
  20. +8
    2 October 2019 13: 35
    Valery, you have not regretted the slops for Catherine II, and Peter looks like a goody against her background. I'm not going to denigrate or justify anyone, but the question is: if Peter-Ulrich lived longer, it is not yet known what would have happened? '
    Peter 3 canceled the Secret Chancery sent: "Word and deed" - well, perhaps, if he had not abolished it, then the conspiracy did not happen.
    Let's think logically: Secret Chancellery, Secret Expedition, Division 3 or KGB, whatever the name of the department, but it is NECESSARY. Life itself compels. It is quite possible that if Peter-Ulrich had remained in power, then he would have established it, but under a different name.
    1. VLR
      -7
      2 October 2019 14: 45
      What does "slop for Catherine II" mean? In your opinion, to tell the truth is to "pour slop"? Is it possible to refute at least one of the facts I have cited? You can't. And, believe me, talking about Ekaterina, I tried to be very objective and restrained. That it will be very difficult for any unbiased person who begins to study that era to do it - she has "cheated" everywhere, wherever you look, "Mother". And the negative qualities of Peter will be discussed in the next article - about the Conspiracy.
      1. +7
        2 October 2019 16: 51
        Valery, have you heard that you can use the Bible against God if you wish? I remembered it when I read your story
      2. +4
        2 October 2019 16: 58
        Valery, what can you object to my suggestions regarding Peter 3?
  21. +2
    2 October 2019 13: 56
    Quote: VlR
    VlR (Valery Ryzhov) Today, 12:44
    Others are even worse. At least you can read Pikul. But other "historical" ones I usually leave on pages 10-20.

    Guys! What we are discussing and proving to each other.
    The author of CAM admitted his competence.
    1. VLR
      -2
      2 October 2019 15: 13
      True - a very bitter "medicine", but I advise everyone to drink it, after all. Resent, spit, swear, but read - something in your head will still be deposited.
      1. +2
        2 October 2019 22: 47
        Quote: VlR

        True - a very bitter "medicine", but I advise everyone to drink it, after all. Resent, spit, swear, but read - something in your head will still be deposited.

        If this truth of yours, in its "scientific character", is similar to the theory of passionarity of Gumilyov, adored by you, then spitting in her direction is just nothing to waste your saliva on trifles.
  22. +9
    2 October 2019 15: 26
    Well, since I had a free minute, and the people obviously have minuses for me, I’ll talk about a lot of very inconvenient things .... For both points of view. On the whole, my colleague Mikhail (Master of Trilobite) has already said everything, and I will go over the details, so to speak.
    It is known that during the time spent by Peter III on the throne, he prepared and published 192 laws and decrees - more than 30 per month.

    "Petrotratephiles" (miles sorry, but that would be the easiest way to call the supporters of the whitewashing of this king) like to indicate this figure, but rarely anyone tries to reveal the essence of all 192 laws. In practice, a decree on awarding is also a decree; the decree is not necessarily prepared by the monarch, it can only be brought to him for verification and signature, which may require from the monarch only a little time a day. Therefore, this fact alone does not make Peter III some kind of extraordinary monarch, although it gives him a positive characterization - he clearly did not like to have some pieces of paper "stale" on his desk.
    Under Catherine II, as we remember, the peasants for gifts to her accomplices and favorites soon ended, so that "not to offend anyone" it was necessary to introduce serfdom in Little Russia (in 1783)

    A bit wrong, but not important, because in general, kicking Catherine for the aggravation of serfdom is entirely justified. I tried to find information expressed in numbers, but received only approximate results - during the audit under Elizaveta Petrovna, about 45% of the country's population were serfs, and the audit did not include the territories of the Hetmanate and a number of other possessions where serfdom was not, i.e. ... the percentage in general for the country was even lower. But after the "blessed" reign of Catherine, all her expansion, annexed territories, etc. the number of the serf population is estimated at 53 to 56 percent of the total population, and serfdom was approved even where it did not exist before.
    By other decrees, Peter ordered the founding of a state bank, to whose accounts 5 contributed millions of rubles from personal funds to ensure the issuance of the first bank notes in Russia, to replace damaged coins.

    But this is just the usually underestimated decision of Peter III - they say, well, he created a bank, so what? And the fact that this was essentially a prototype of the central bank, which at that time was becoming fashionable in Europe, which made it possible to better manage public finances. Alas, either Peter III did not manage to strengthen it, or did not understand the essence of this institution, but it was precisely as the central bank that it was reformed much later.
    Russia had no rights to the Prussian kingdom, and this conquest would never have been recognized by other monarchs of Europe.

    At that time this was just not a problem, many countries were guided by the "right of conquest" in annexing territories that had never belonged to them before. Nevertheless, the annexation of East Prussia does not cause any enthusiasm for me personally - Russia already had a lot of territories, but they were not always used wisely, and East Prussia would not have solved the eternal Russian problems.
    These lands were separated from Russia by the traditionally hostile Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth

    You wanted to say that has become the traditionally foreign policy impotent Commonwealth? From the hostility of the Poles of Russia at that time it was neither cold nor hot, for the whole great Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth did not present a real threat to it. Oh yeah, for some reason you are very close in text that you first say that Russia would lose East Prussia because it is separated by land, but excuse me - and Schleswig-Holstein is not separated from Russia by land even with a greater distance and a large number states, including the same Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth? And if the possession of SH is possible at the expense of the fleet, then why cannot this be done with East Prussia?
    At the same time, East Prussia was a rather poor and backward agrarian country, the real backyards of Europe, Holstein and Schleswig - much richer principalities

    It's funny how this tale is repeated from time to time, trying to pass it off as truth. The 18th century - the time of the agrarian, well, maximum semi-industrial states, the agrarian sector played a very important role in the economy, and things were always good in East Prussia - the Swedes, during their dominance over the Baltic, received large sums of money from customs in Koenigsberg due to the export of Prussian grain, there was noticeably more only in Riga. Schleswig-Holstein, on the other hand, is a fairly middle developed region, without an advanced industry, with the same agricultural economy.
    and even with a unique geographical position, which allows you to control the North and Baltic Seas. Look at the map

    "Petro-Tretyfiles" see super-duper opportunities there, but the problem is that there are actually much fewer of them there. Kiel, of course, is much more convenient for controlling the Danish Straits than Kronstadt or Revel, stupid due to its proximity, but the state that REALLY controls geographically the straits is Denmark, which is supported by England in case of need. And when trying to seize Schleswig-Holstein, Russia goes into confrontation with this very Denmark, the Danish straits are closed with the support of the British fleet - and voila! Russia is losing access to the world's oceans along its main trade route at that time, and it will be possible to return it essentially only under the dictation of the Danes and the British. Sorry, but this is a vivid example of the predominance of dynastic interests over state interests, and trying to show this as a boon for Russia is an attempt to pull a very small owl onto a very large globe.
    Peter perfectly understood all this, and therefore, according to the agreement he drew up, Petersburg returned East Prussia to Frederick II, but only on condition that Russia returned Schleswig and Dietmarschen, for the conquest of which Frederick pledged to provide an army of 20 thousand people to help Russia: 15 thousand foot soldiers and Xnumx thousand cavalry

    As far as I know, Elizaveta Petrovna was hatching a similar plan, but the "price of return" was not the principalities on the Danish-German border, but the territories of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, where the Orthodox Russian population lived. Those. Russia would still return East Prussia to Frederick, but only at the cost of his recognition and support for something like the partition of Poland. This option seems to me to be much more profitable than ownership of the German principalities on the outskirts. And yes, I agree that East Prussia had to be changed, but for reasons of foreign policy - without it, the Prussian kingdom would weaken, and this is unprofitable for Russia, because then Austria became the hegemon in Germany, which always pursued a rather duplicitous policy in relation to eastern neighbor. Maintaining a strong Prussia is beneficial for Russia - but it is precisely that Prussia that will act in harmony with Russia and will not encroach on Russian spheres of interest.

    For the rest, I could also say a lot, but, frankly, it’s too lazy. IMHO, the farther, the more biased you become in evaluating the activities of Peter III, while in terms of Catherine II, I basically agree with you - it was a great time when the foundation of the future was laid under the thunder of victories and the rapid expansion of borders the collapse of the Russian Empire and the revolution due to socio-economic problems that arose and / or strengthened precisely in the era of its reign. But Peter III does not become an excellent monarch who is good at foreign policy and who defends only state interests.
  23. +6
    2 October 2019 15: 31
    German Prussia with a Lutheran population would never have become a province of Russia.
    But how did Courland become such?
    Under Catherine II, as we remember, the peasants for gifts to her accomplices and favorites soon ended, so that "not to offend anyone" had to introduce serfdom in Little Russia (in 1783):
    . With all due respect, are you competing with Bushkov in the manner of presenting the material? Catherine enslaved Little Russia to distribute peasants to favorites? This is serious? You should know that there was something to distribute - only 60% of the population was in serfdom (and this is already after Paul, who, in addition to his mother's, distributed another 600 thousand). In terms of numbers on the number of handed out
    Catherine of the serfs (there are not a million of them, as the author quotes, but 800 thousand), the peasants of the Polish landowners requisitioned or transferred by the Polish landowners to the Russian crown on the basis of an agreement between Russia and Austria, according to which the landowners should decide the subjects what kind of power they will become. Their peasants have long been enslaved, so their status has not changed.
    As for Little Russia, its enslavement is a consequence of the aspirations of the elites (foremen), and not the whim of the empress. If the author thinks that Little Russia consisted of free cultivators — this is an unfortunate error, a significant part of the population was landless and worked on the land of elders, who behaved no better than the Polish lords.
    For all taxable estates of Little Russia, preferential taxation (PSRRI) was introduced, and for those who served, in general, there was no enslavement. Of the free people of Little Russia and New Russia, hussar and carabinier regiments were recruited. They even additionally allocated land - if only served.
    Peter ordered the founding of a state bank, to whose accounts he contributed 5 million rubles from personal funds to ensure the issuance of the first bank notes in Russia

    Alas, Peter made no money. He simply did not have them. The budget of the entire empire in the early years of Catherine was 16 million, and you say 5 million. In addition, Peter's idea of ​​introducing paper money is certainly bold, but was doomed. It was based on an unsuccessful (as it became clear later) example of the Prussian cittles. But Catherine’s banknotes were implemented at the first stage brilliantly. Suppose in the future, their course began to fall, but the main thing she did was to make people believe paper.
    If you analyze the entire article, you will need several times more volume. I hope that from what I wrote it is clear that the author is shallow and tendentious. But it is interesting to read.
    1. VLR
      -2
      2 October 2019 17: 55
      Quote: "The author is shallow and tendentious. But it reads interestingly."
      But you can probably see from the comments that this is not the Moscow State University Bulletin. Here the principle is "while entertaining, teach." While trying to "stay alive" if you take a step to the right or left from the conventional point of view smile
  24. +6
    2 October 2019 15: 37
    Comrades, remember, yesterday the author wrote: "probably these disputes between Peter and his spiritual mentor were the source of gossip that the heir intends to introduce Lutheranism on Ruchki."
    And this is no longer gossip: "he closed, for example, without any foundation the house churches, ... Peter demanded the clergy to destroy icons in churches and wanted to force him to wear secular clothes" (S. Platonov "Complete course of lectures on Russian history") and after that you can talk about gossip?
    Naturally, the clergy were dissatisfied, and if you add that he began to take the land from monasteries. Of course, the clergy were against it.
    Can you imagine an Orthodox church without icons, and the priest is not in meat, but in a tailcoat or some kind of Armenian? I personally can’t.
  25. +6
    2 October 2019 16: 14
    It is interesting how the author refers to Valiszewski, but let me ask what is positive about Russia and its rulers, from a Polish nationalist for whom everything is Russian is bad.
    1. +3
      2 October 2019 19: 05
      And it is no coincidence that in the layer of literature that arose during the "perestroika", a fair share belongs to the books of Valishevsky.
    2. +3
      3 October 2019 00: 14
      Which of Valiszewski is a Polish nationalist? You at least read his biography, or what.
  26. +1
    2 October 2019 17: 08
    Probably, it’s better to immediately on the chopping block, is not it?
    Quartering and wheeling did not guarantee a quick death, especially since these types of executions were preceded by painful torture.
  27. +9
    2 October 2019 17: 34
    The author has a rare ability, as Germans say, to kill several flies with one cracker. It is an extremely rare case today when an article on historical topics caused not a mega-secret between the two groups, but a touching unity in the assessment of the article even of representatives of such congregations, which are opposite in relation to history, as dementists and historians proper. True, the assessment is negative, but this is not surprising, because even despite the experience that has been formed over the generations of perceiving sharp turns in assessing the actions of various historical personalities, a 180-degree turn towards some people causes a negative reaction.
    Moreover, the author so vigorously undertook to change the figures on the podium that he immediately remembered the thought of D.S. Likhachev that the researcher should not remain a captive of his concepts, otherwise you can put an end to the objectivity of historical research, a category that is already quite unsteady. And the fact that the author of some concepts in captivity. viewed explicitly.
    But he writes lively, easy to read, interesting. Like Pikul.
    1. VLR
      0
      2 October 2019 18: 10
      Good afternoon, there are several people whose opinion I am always interested to hear. I am glad that it is interesting and easy to understand - I tried.
      But, in one thing you, like many, are mistaken: I am not an apologist for Peter III, I am just talking now about the "unknown" emperor to a wide circle of readers. Not the one that Pikul has in his textbooks. There is no place to give a full-fledged and comprehensive characterization of the character - this will require writing a monograph. Therefore, I focused on the "dark" and little-known pages of this story. Where Peter is not at all feeble-minded "", and Catherine is such a "Mother" that it is better to be an orphan. Many took this as a deliberate provocation. But I hope that even critics will now understand that "not everything is so simple."
      1. +4
        2 October 2019 18: 31
        Good afternoon! Yes, I kind of didn’t accuse Peter III of being "apologetic". Regarding provocation - I already wrote yesterday that the long-term use of history as a means of propaganda has led to the fact that almost any article on history is perceived as a provocation. So there is no need to make any special efforts. The question is, will provocation have the desired effect? And while the audience, instead of finally realizing that which "unambiguously" does not happen in history, tries to throw stones at the "provocateur".
  28. +2
    2 October 2019 19: 03
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    And 40 injections in the stomach hurt.

    Now only 6 and in the scapula!
    1. +3
      2 October 2019 22: 41
      Five in the deltoid muscle. The first - rabies immunoglobulin - is done in the forearm.
      1. +2
        2 October 2019 23: 42
        Absolutely true!
        1. +2
          2 October 2019 23: 44
          Yes, I have bitten the eldest daughter mouse, and the youngest cat. No kidding. So this is practical knowledge.
          1. +3
            3 October 2019 00: 08
            What kind of jokes can there be? In the Leningrad region two weeks ago there was a warning about the detection of the rabies virus in hedgehogs and squirrels. In the Russian Federation, when contacting a "trauma" with any bite of an animal that has caused damage to the skin, an anti-tetanus infection is automatically made and the drug indicated by you is administered. The other four are sent to the anti-rabies center.
            As for my knowledge, well, I'm still a dog lover, albeit currently latent.
            1. +3
              3 October 2019 00: 17
              This is a standard protocol. Rabies is not treated.
              1. +2
                3 October 2019 00: 22
                It’s just that in the Union the treatment procedure was mandatory, and now a person himself decides what kind of death he will die.
            2. +2
              3 October 2019 09: 52
              Well, I'm still a dog lover, even at the moment and latent

              well, at least a dog lover .. latent .. wink drinks with the voice of Millard .. lol
              and we, mur-meow, live with a cat! and we don’t do any vaccinations. We only scratch it with the host, and he rests. drinks
              1. +1
                3 October 2019 10: 21
                Quote: Pane Kohanku
                well, at least a dog lover .. latent ..

                And also a punk, a miserable, a Martian, a Jamaican tanker. Who else did they brand me? "And also an earthworm"
                And anyway, who would say !!! Well it is necessary to bring an ordinary Russian cat to jihad!
                With the help of this Jesuit invention
                Quote: Pane Kohanku
                host
                (a word which already distortes everything), it will soon look like a hedgehog, a patient with ringworm. laughing drinks
                1. +3
                  3 October 2019 10: 26
                  And anyway, who would say !!! Well it is necessary to bring an ordinary Russian cat to jihad!

                  nothing jihad .. sad Cat Superman. Or a samurai cat, and his green horo flutters behind him. soldier

                  just digging into a bag, put her pen on her neck, then walked around, portrayed Batman. Now he sleeps on this bag .. and is not going to give! drinks
                  he will soon look like a hedgehog, a patient with ringworm.

                  yes damn it, it is better to be combed out than wool throughout the hut! request
                  1. +2
                    3 October 2019 10: 45
                    Excuses begin, the juggling of facts, wishful thinking.
                    No, really!
                    "Who vomited a bear’s paw,
                    Throwing a hare in the rain
                    Tannin threw the ball into the river,
                    Did the goby break the plank?
                    Everyone knows who,
                    This is Agnia Barto! "
                    So it is here!
                    Quote: Pane Kohanku
                    Now he's sleeping on this bag

                    Very symptomatic. And in general, the Doctor said "jihad" means jihad!
                    1. +2
                      3 October 2019 11: 04
                      Who tore the bear’s paw,
                      Threw a hare in the rain

                      Who wallpaper paw torn,
                      Is the filler scattered?
                      Whose fur is there on the whole floor?
                      Who the shit there, in the corner? request
                      Loudly he yells with a siren
                      fat as a log.
                      And he believes that it should be .... what
                      It's just - a Mikado cat! drinks
                      1. +2
                        3 October 2019 11: 14
                        It's just - a Mikado cat!

                        tongue
                      2. +2
                        3 October 2019 11: 21
                        ahaha, class! drinks
                        it reminded me:

                        and behind the scenes the Creedans should sound with their "Fortunate son" soldier
                      3. +2
                        3 October 2019 11: 34
                        Everyone knows that Cheburashka arrived in our country in a box full of oranges (the fact of illegal crossing the state border is a face!) But few people know that at the time of writing, these citrus fruits were delivered to our country not from Morocco, but from Israel. So the Cossack is mishandled! laughing
                        Where is the "Operator" wandering around?
                      4. +1
                        3 October 2019 11: 57
                        but from Israel. So the Cossack is mishandled!

                        Yes, I also read about it. And there were even tags pasted. Not the Israeli, but the Arab ones were pasted - so that the Soviet people did not know that we were buying oranges from the Israelis. wink
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                      6. +2
                        3 October 2019 11: 19
                        Well, messy, but just so! good
                    2. +1
                      4 October 2019 09: 44
                      Especially if this "doctor" you are Anton
                      1. 0
                        4 October 2019 10: 06
                        The doctor is our comrade "avva2012", unfortunately, who left the forum on his own initiative
              2. +1
                3 October 2019 11: 22
                Quote: Pane Kohanku
                well, at least a dog lover .. latent ..

                "- You know, my husband is a syphilitic!
                - Imbecile !!! Not a syphilitic, but a philatelist! "
  29. +4
    2 October 2019 20: 18
    I read it with interest ... It is written brightly and entertainingly. But ... You know, colleagues, the style of the article is very reminiscent of the work of Bushkov with such a claim to a historical sensation and an extremely free attitude to sources. It turns out a kind of mixture of facts and speculation. A similar feeling was after reading "The Secret History of the United States", when even such a yugophile as I was horrified by Bushkov's distortion and manipulation. But it was interesting ...
  30. -2
    2 October 2019 20: 55
    Good article. Thank. Well written, informative and interesting. Indeed, Catherine was given to us one-sidedly. The yard, mired in debauchery, has become in history a kind of standard of state power.
  31. +3
    3 October 2019 01: 29
    Well, it was understandable that Catherine's domestic policy was based on every possible gratification of the nobility. She understood clearly. that it put her on the throne and it can also nail her. But to say that the liquidation of the Crimean Khanate, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the victory over the Turks is something that has nothing to do with the ruler is stupidity. This is from the category "we won the war despite Stalin," and "we got out of the devastation of the 90s only thanks to oil prices."
    The author rushes from one extreme to another. Yes, Peter 3 was abundantly poured with mud and put out useless and a fool, and Catherine was excellently promoted. But rushing to the other extreme and starting to water Catherine back and singing her murdered husband is also not better. Peter3 surrendered himself and refused to fight for the throne. But he was free and he had Minih. And it was a mega-specialist and an excellent commander. There was an opportunity to gather loyal troops and at least fight. But he surrendered and signed a death sentence for himself. The fact that Catherine killed him and Ivan 6 was quite logical - no one needs extra threats. Peter could not understand what fate awaited him. It simply did not have a thirst for life and struggle. And it was in it, and therefore the winner wrote the story, and it was not Peter3. Alas. request
    1. +4
      3 October 2019 10: 51
      It simply did not have a thirst for life and struggle.

      has broken. This is evident from his chaotic behavior during the coup. Outwardly, he tried to seem calm, but soon after the news of the coup he asked for sleeping pills. In Oranienbaum, he cannot fall asleep. The soldier, at the request of the ladies, is beaten off at 4-5 in the morning. From Peterstadt, Peter goes to the Japanese Hall of the Grand Palace, but even there he is restless. Well, in the morning he was persuaded to renounce his favorite Izmailov and Alexei Orlov. At that time, the arrived hussar regiment was hanging out in the park under the command of Vasily Suvorov. The daddy of the future generalissimo behaves extremely rudely with the Germans, waves his saber, and, entering into a rage, even shouts to his subordinates: "Chop the Prussians!" (the order was not executed, but the attitude of the Russians towards the Holstein people is characteristic: that the Holstins, that the recent enemies of the Prussians - all one). wink
      After being imprisoned in Ropsha, Peter writes three letters to Catherine. By their tone, we can say that these are letters of a broken person, a supplication. request