MiG Corporation revealed the characteristics of the latest MiG-35 fighter

MiG Corporation has published a press release in which it has revealed the detailed characteristics of the latest MiG-35 multi-functional fighter. According to the statement of the aircraft developers, this fighter is "the top of the MiG family of aircraft."

As stated in a common press release, the MiG-35 fighter is designed in two versions - the MiG-35 (single) and the MiG-35D (double). The fighter is based on 5 generation fighter technology and is designed to destroy air targets, as well as destroy ground targets at any time and under any weather conditions. Installed avionics and high precision weapon allow to solve the tasks of gaining superiority in the air in the fight against fourth and fifth generation fighters, intercepting air targets, striking ground targets without entering the air defense zone, conducting reconnaissance and control aviation in groups.

The MiG-35 is equipped with new engines with increased traction, is equipped with a refueling system in the air and is capable of acting as a tanker.

The maximum take-off weight of the fighter is 24 500 kg, the maximum load is 6,5 tons. Speed ​​- 2100 km / h, maximum traction - 18000 kgf. The practical ceiling is declared in 16 thousand meters, flight range - 3 thousand kilometers. It has nine points of external suspension and an integrated 30-mm cannon; the armament includes air-to-air missiles of various ranges, air-to-surface missiles, adjustable bombs, unguided missiles and bombs of caliber up to 500 kg.

Among the advantages of the aircraft, the corporation names reduced radar visibility, fourfold redundancy of all control channels, new avionics, radar with AFAR, an optical radar station and a helmet-mounted target designation and indication system, a new cabin with a high level of information and automation.

Earlier, MiG Corporation signed a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the supply of six MiG-35 fighters, all of which will be delivered before the end of this year.

Comments

[Thrall]

MIGovtsy were modest. Wikipedia is more optimistic than TTX.

[Sarmat Sanych]

The coolest unit turned out!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Sarmat Sanych

The coolest unit turned out!

There is, according to indicators, a good airplane.

[mig29mks]

He would have put RAFAR!

[vadim dok]

Of course, RAFAR is already on sale in any Voentorg!

[Voyager]

And wikipedia is, sorry, what? Just aggregation of data from various sources. Sometimes (and sometimes often) there you can find absurd nonsense, which has nothing to do with reality. Moreover, in different languages, different information is also provided due to the views (political and other) of specific moderators. I do not recommend you and anyone else to verify the parameters with Wikipedia.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: Voyager

And wikipedia is, sorry, what?

++ Moreover, anyone can edit and fill it with their own pearls.

[Karabas]

And wikipedia is, sorry, what? Just aggregation of data from various sources. Sometimes (and sometimes often) there you can find absurd nonsense, which has nothing to do with reality. Moreover, in different languages, different information is also provided due to the views (political and other) of specific moderators. I do not recommend you and anyone else to verify the parameters with Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is primarily a scientific resource, the purpose of which is to accumulate and provide reliable information. The result of the work of the scientific community. There is money from private donations. (There are exceptions to the rule in everything. For example, the "white crows" of the rich, thanks to which this resource exists.)

Sometimes (and sometimes often) there you can find absurd nonsense, which has nothing to do with reality.

It's a lie. There are errors, they are corrected.

Moreover, in different languages, different information is also provided due to the views (political and other) of specific moderators.

Sometimes it takes place to be. This is one of the main problems of the resource, it is being solved gradually.

I do not recommend you and anyone else to verify the parameters with Wikipedia.

The choice of a source of information is a personal matter for everyone; it is already a matter of faith and religion, scientific resources from another field.

[Chaldon48]

Wikipedia is too politicized.

[Civil]

Good, but not easy. There is only one question, scope and demand.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Thrall

MIGovtsy were modest. Wikipedia is more optimistic than TTX.

Depends on flight weight, on suspensions.
MiG doesn’t underestimate the plane with his TTX.
Well, like a cherry on a cake, fighter-bombers in a combat situation never fly either on the ceiling or at maximum speed.

[max702]

There is no main character .. PRICES! If it is 35-15% cheaper than the SU-20s, then it makes no sense for the VKS!
As a person working in logistics, it is categorically against a sort of grapevine in something, but if the replacement is worse than the analogue then this is a crime ..

[gabonskijfront]

Where is he? I'm interested in design, like the Chinese comrades, maybe no one is fighting in this.

[Butterfly Killer]

According to the aircraft developers, this fighter is "the pinnacle of the MiG aircraft family."

Not accuracy. Not "is the top of the MiG aircraft family", but "is the next the pinnacle of the MiG aircraft family. "
Fix please!

[Mountain shooter]

Well, decently everything. The speed is small. Beautiful plane.
Other sources give maximum 2500 speed. Where is the truth?

[Sergey39]

Well, as usual. The truth is somewhere in between.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, decently everything. The speed is small. Beautiful plane.
Other sources give maximum 2500 speed. Where is the truth?

Speed ​​also depends on altitude.

[novel66]

and vice versa seem ..

[Piramidon]

Quote: novel xnumx

and vice versa seem ..

Roman, I did not understand, "on the contrary" is it like? Dynamic ceiling, what do you mean?

[novel66]

well yes, to gain a certain height you need a certain speed

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Well, decently everything. The speed is small. Beautiful plane.
Other sources give maximum 2500 speed. Where is the truth?

And the truth will be, in the course of working with him and putting it into practice. Only after that, it will be possible to say and show the actual speed result.

[voyaka uh]

Its glider is the classic glider of the 4 generation.
Like the F-15, Su-27, Su-35 glider.
Two vertical keels give a bright and characteristic mark on any radar.
It is impossible to disguise in any way.

[Ural-4320]

Interesting fact. And can you see it somewhere in the picture firsthand? It would be interesting to me, as an amateur, to see the radar screen with the decoding that this is happening there. I think this is not a secret?

[voyaka uh]

I read it about F-15. When Boeing tried to make him
"Silent Eagle", then first of all set the keels at an angle.
Without this, all other measures to reduce radio stealth are meaningless.
EPR of the usual F-15 without external suspensions and pylons - 10 m2.
With them - 15 m2
Now compare: Su-27 of the same scheme, but larger than F-15.
MiG-35 of the same scheme and approximately equal in size to the F-15.

[Ural-4320]

Now it’s clear why the keels are at an angle on modern airplanes and drones. Thank you, I didn’t.

[tomket]

Quote: voyaka uh

MiG-35 of the same scheme and approximately equal in size to the F-15.

The MiG is generally smaller than the F-15, and there are no "approximately" ones there.

[Kasym]

Alexander, it's useless for Voyak (Alexei) to persuade him. F-15 - a fighter for gaining air supremacy and is heavy, the main armament: missiles in the. MiG-29 is a front-line to support ground forces on the battlefield. He just doesn't understand the difference between them. Stealth sees it as a panacea for all ills. Although the stealth coating was developed and tested just under the Union. The negative sides surfaced after it began to "fly off" after a dozen flights. Reapplying it was costly. That is, it was impossible to use the plane intensively. I also do not understand the support that the forum users provide for his comments on aviation.

[VO3A]

to support ground forces on the battlefield

In modern warfare? Heal, but will not help!

[Zaurbek]

Keels and motogandols and at one angle ...

[YakimovSS]

Maybe it’s worth reading a little professional literature, and not excerpts for "people gossip"?
We are probably talking about a lateral projection, and here the transition to "one tail" will give nothing but a decrease in controllability. To maintain the same level of controllability, you will have to increase the vertical tail area, and this is even greater exposure. To reduce it, a vertical tail is installed with an inclination so that the reflected signal goes to the other side of the emitter. But this, too, does not fucking improve the control and here it is already impossible to do without electronic correction.
And from the front, that one keel, that two - monotonously. The leading edge is important.

For example, here you can observe that the largest EPR is observed not from the front, but from the side:

And then we look tailless:

[lucul]

Maybe it’s worth reading a little professional literature, and not excerpts for "people gossip"?

Offset
Modestly and tastefully))

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: voyaka uh

Su-27 is the same scheme, but larger than the F-15.
MiG-35 of the same scheme and approximately equal in size to the F-15.

F-15 in size almost in the middle between the Su-27 and MiG-35
Length, wing span, wing area:
Su-27 - 21,9 x 14,7 - 62 sq m
F-15 - 19,4 x 13 - 56,5 sq m
MiG-35 - 17,3 x 12 - 40 sq m

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Keels can be made from composites and they will stop reflecting radio waves.

[voyaka uh]

Do not stop. But reflection will decrease.
Replacement with composites is not enough. Need to change shape,
angle of installation, replace all corners with "faceted" and coat with stealth coating.
Then the plane starts to "disappear" for the radar.
(F-35 has all planes and keels from composites. Only
aluminum fuselage.)

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The MiG-35 25 has% of the parts made of composites, due to which its visibility is reduced, while no one says that the aircraft has a signature like F-35.

F-35 due to the coverage received a limitation in speed and maneuverability. In the event that they discover him and launch rockets at him, he will not have a chance to survive.

But the maneuverability and speed of the MiG-35 is a great way to get away from a missile attack, coupled with a powerful radar that will warn about it in advance.

[voyaka uh]

In any case, the MiG-35 will be noticed very far away.
And further, if he will constantly make figures
aerobatics ... then it will probably be saved from large missiles
range. God bless the pilot.

[vadson]

to notice it you need to use the radar, respectively, the attacker becomes visible. and what does it mean very far away? 100 200 300 400 km? it is unlikely that it will be noticeable at a distance greater than 100 km, although it is still necessary to discern it on this one, nevertheless, measures have been taken to reduce radio visibility on it. long range is already a flying radar in the air that can be planted from the ground for greyhound.

[parkello]

Turkish f-16 above the sea were detected near 70 km, above land 150 km, and in both cases they went low enveloping the relief or almost creeped over the sea. because the higher they went up, the faster our Mirages reached interception, they are slightly faster than f-16 and the ceiling is 1 -2 km higher. if the Turks buy Su-35 (at least them) I'm not talking about Su-57 ... then the Greeks will suffer greatly. We have nothing to oppose them. except C-300 in Crete, and we need C-300, at least cover the area of ​​Kavala and a little from the sea, from the northern part. But if C-300 is put on the islands, the Turks raised such a howl that came pen-do removed and banned the installation of systems. as a result, the first firing of the C-300 took place after 12 years .. 12 years were dismantled in a humid tropical climate, saturated with all kinds of harmful additives in the form of iodine, salts and African dust. Now as for the Mig 35, it is certainly a very good aircraft. With good capabilities and God forbid you sell them aircraft ... whether Su-35 or Mig-35, we will have to force the Evros River without air support and teleport to Constantinople on armor , and this is fraught with many unpleasant sensations. such as the domination of the Turks in the air. while we had more agile Mirages, we tolerated their arrogant tricks, but then the game drags on and becomes dangerous for us, so for us it would be better if the Turks did not have time to buy planes from either the Russians or the Tan. and it’s best if they get stuck in another war in the East. if you sell them airplanes, the first thing they will do is to go over the Aegean Sea and land marines on our islands .. I certainly dreamed of fighting with the Turks since childhood and the more I killed them, the more happy I died ... but I already old ... I will not be called to the front line, I will get the fate of serving the wounded at best. therefore, it’s better to drive them by the nose, like a pen-do-shoot .. type and allies and at the same time nifig you will not sell f-35. because the Turks are a snake in a bottle, if you let it out of this bottle you can run away do not have time. and the mattresses can smell it with the end of the coccygeal bone ... they understand. that the gates to Europe begin here, here ... and the Turks, if they come to the mainland, they will show everyone what Seljuk is ... until they depend on you, you are their kin and best friends, as soon as the need disappears they will show themselves to the fullest. it was not in vain that Peter the Great said, Don’t trust the woman, don’t trust the Turk and the non-drinker.

[vadson]

bring down from NATO and bet with 400 and you will be happy

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Greeks will suffer greatly. We have nothing to oppose them

And what is the problem of buying Greece the same MiG-35 or Su-35/57?

God forbid you sell them planes

Well, do not raise a howl about this, Greece is in NATO, which means NATO will help you in the event of Turkish aggression (is that so you have NATO?)

Well, if you want to have high-speed, maneuverable and modern fighters - you know who to contact.

I think for the Orthodox in Rosoboronexport, fighters as well as air defense systems will have good discounts.

Russia is surrounded by NATO bases, near China and countries where terrorism flourishes, and we will use every opportunity to advance our defense systems in order to earn the extra billion dollars that will go to strengthen our defense industry, defense and the economy as a whole.

[parkello]

all this is so, dear, our question is different, the traitors are in power, at first they economically ruined the country living on the agrarian industry, mainly tourism, then closed the ELVO production. this is our military-industrial complex so called Pirkal at ELVO. now even 308 caliber cartridges come from abroad, and they bring socks from Ukraine .. for soldiers. to buy .. you have to have dignity above the navel and a rich buyback from him ... and we have only skins in our power .. what to buy, they don’t know who to sell to themselves ... to the wall would all of them, for treason .. for selfishness .

[Tibidokh]

Quote: parkello

you need to have dignity above the navel and a rich buyback from him ... and we have only skins in our power ... what to buy, they don’t know who to sell to themselves ... to the wall of them all, for treason .. for selfishness

It does not sound regrettable, but in our country the problems are very similar.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

It is not a fact that the same F-35 on the new MiG-35 or Su-30/35 radars will be detected only at close range, it is likely that the F-35 will also be visible from afar, at a distance sufficient to counter it. New radars on the Su-35 have a detection range of up to 400 km, well, roughly speaking, the F-35 will see from 200. Will the F-35 save it ?! I don’t think so.

A fighter does not need to make any tricky aerobatic maneuvers in order to get away from enemy missiles; they just need to launch an missile on an enemy missile or go at a speed of fired missiles at maximum speed.

As recently demonstrated by the Su-30MKI of India. They spotted the launches on their own and simply using the speed left these missiles. At the same time, they had enough fuel to return and, if necessary, pile on Pakistani F-16 if they were still in the air, and not fall down after launches.

The Su-27 also succeeded in the war of Ethiopia and Eretreia and the MiG-25 in Iraq, where the latter once left 10 missiles fired at it.

But the F-35 live only until it is discovered, he can’t get away from the launched rocket. Too slow. And you can detect the F-35 with ground-based radars and AWACS aircraft and transmit data to fighters or air defense systems.

The main factor in the victory, of course, will be tactics, while the MiG-35 has excellent chances for it.

The MiG-35 is even the same as the F-16/18, Rafal, Grippene, and not the F-35.

A multi-purpose fighter, with excellent characteristics and an affordable price, can also bring down an airplane and smash the bunker on the ground into chips and send the frigate to the bottom.

Bulgaria recently bought 1,7 F-8s for 16 billion dollars, and the MiG-35 would take 32 pieces for the same money.

There is a difference? Yes, and clearly in favor of the MiG-35.

[voyaka uh]

"it is enough for them to launch at the detected enemy missiles
or get away at speed from fired missiles at maximum speed. "///
-----
Something you in fantasies flew far, far away.
Are you planning to shoot an enemy rocket with an explosive rocket?
Are you going to just run away from the enemy’s explosive rocket without doing
sharp missile defense maneuver?
Like your suggestions for stealth detection by the radar - nothing
close to reality.
MiG-35 can work as an effective melee fighter
with the 4th generation of the enemy.
And for this reason, plus a low price, it has export potential.
Russia will be able to earn on it.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

And what is the fantasy of shooting down an air-to-air rocket with another air-to-air rocket? What's so incredible? An air-to-air missile can also be detected by an aircraft radar and attacked by an air-to-air missile. Yes, from a closer distance than an airplane, but it can.

Moreover, an attacking missile does not make any sharp missile defense maneuvers.

Air defense systems shoot down cruise missiles, so what's the problem of shooting down an attacking air-to-air missile ?! Yes, when the distances are short it is probably very difficult, but the AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles have a launch range of 120-180 km. from such a distance, they can be detected and missiles launched over them, and there will still be time to maneuver and leave the missile at maximum speed.

Recently, India just announced that during the collision the Su-30 MKI shot down precisely the AIM-120 AMRAAM.

The AIM-120 AMRAAM is quite large and Pakistani F-16s launched them from afar, so I think it is quite realistic, especially considering the fact that the radar and missiles of the aircraft are getting better and better.

And the MiG-25 in Iraq, the Su-27 in Ethiopia’s war against Eritrea demonstrated the avoidance of air-to-air missiles due to speed. I don’t see a problem at all, provided, of course, that the missiles were fired from a long distance, but you bet on that as times for stealth aircraft.

F-35/22 have an advantage in stealth over old radars, new radars are orders of magnitude more powerful and will see stealth aircraft certainly closer than 4th generation fighters, but I also think at a sufficient distance to take all the necessary countermeasures.

F-117 was detected by the S-125 air defense system from 23 km and was hit by a missile from 10 km. And this complex was made in the late 50s. Something like this.

[tomket]

Quote: voyaka uh

Do not stop. But reflection will decrease.
Replacement with composites is not enough. Need to change shape,

At the MiG-35 demonstrator this year in Zhukovsky, the shape of the keels was just changed.

[Lozovik]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Keels can be made from composites

And what do you think they are made of now?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Keels can be made from composites and they will stop reflecting radio waves.

Inspected the MiG-29 at the Technical Museum of Togliatti, even before the restoration of the aircraft. He was in a very dilapidated condition, in places the paint was stripped off and it was clear that metal was not everywhere there.
It seems that he has a fairly large part of the wing of composites. I don’t remember about keels, it was a long time ago.

[codetalker]

So no one seems to claim that he is “invisible” or an 5 generation aircraft

[Vadmir]

Its glider is the classic glider of the 4 generation.
Like the F-15, Su-27, Su-35 glider.

As far as I remember, the F-15 is not built according to the integrated circuit, unlike the F-16, Su-27 and MiG-29.

[Ka-52]

Two vertical keels give a bright and characteristic mark on any radar.
It is impossible to disguise in any way.

warrior, do not forget to write correctly - give a pronounced mark with 0 roll to the side projection.

[vadim dok]

As well as air intakes!

[Cryvedco]

equipped with a system of refueling in the air and is capable of performing the role of a tanker.

And this is about an aircraft that was once "for gaining air supremacy over a short-range drive"? Not bad...

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Not bad, not bad. Russia needs such a front-line fighter.

Functional like Su-35, only slightly less radius and slightly less bomb load, well, and the cost is cheaper.

For a number of tasks, the MiG-35 will be more optimally suited. When you don’t have to fly very far and carry a lot.

The combat radius is obtained 1500 km, pretty well, a powerful radar and excellent maneuverability.

Such a fighter will find demand in the international market, for those who are dear to the Su-35 and the redundant MiG-35 is an excellent option.

Speed ​​and maneuverability together with an excellent radar will allow the MiG-35 to detect missile launches on its own and move away from them, and a large radius will allow those who launched these missiles to return and pile on.

[Nikolay73]

Give to the troops, but more! To fly!

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nikolay73

Give to the troops, but more! To fly!

So as many as six! Are you few?

[Nikolay73]

I suppose that I need an order of magnitude more even for retraining the flight crew.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Nikolay73

I suppose that I need an order of magnitude more even for retraining the flight crew.

And I'm talking about too.

[Nycomed]

I agree. Seven - just right!

[Sky strike fighter]

Interesting information on AFAR for Mig-35. It seems like 4-5 years ago started the project of a new promising AFAR radar to replace the Zhuk family. What is known about the results of the project?

[Nycomed]

"The MiG Corporation has published a press release, in which it disclosed the detailed characteristics of the newest multifunctional MiG-35 fighter. According to the aircraft developers, this fighter is "the pinnacle of the MiG aircraft family.""
And when it (MiG-35) was presented at the Indian tender MMRCA for the Indian Air Force 7-8 years ago, then there were other characteristics?

[Sky strike fighter]

On the latest version of the Mig-35, the glider changed a bit, a lot was made of composites and there is the opportunity to put an updated improved AFAR Zhuk-AME. There are some other changes in the engines, as it were. So now this version of the Mig-35 takes into account all the comments that were presented by the Indians 7-8 years ago.

[bayard]

Quote: Nycomed

And when it (MiG-35) was presented at the Indian tender MMRCA for the Indian Air Force 7-8 years ago, then there were other characteristics?

Then this plane was generally only on paper. Offered a project \ concept instead of a product. Now a completely different matter and Indian pilots are actively getting to know the MiG-35. And they like him.

[Undecim]

Pilot cockpit MIG-35.

[Undecim]

For comparison - the pilot's cabin F-35.

[Nastia makarova]

it looks more reliable and they have only screens

[Maxwrx]

screens are more reliable than mechanics, this is not a smartphone for you, but military equipment, reliability is much higher there.

[Nastia makarova]

reliable toggle switch

[Voyager]

We also follow the same principle, gradually abandoning mechanics.

[telobezumnoe]

and where it does not exist, it means that the pilot does not need to be distracted by it, which means it is implemented automatically, and only what the pilot needs to make a decision is displayed

[Ka-52]

screens are more reliable than mechanics, this is not a smartphone for you, but military equipment, reliability is much higher there.

do not fantasize. There is nothing more reliable than alarm clocks)) the problem is different - alarm clocks can transmit information of only one order.

[NN52]

There are only three of them. Why did they leave ASF, I don’t know ... And two duplicate ones, on the recommendation of the test guys. The rest of the infa through monitors.

[Undecim]

"They" have one screen, and "you" have four, plus arrow indicators and a hundred buttons and toggle switches, the location and purpose of which must be remembered.

[Nastia makarova]

this is a plus

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: Undecim

Natasha, sorry for the curiosity. One question. Are you blonde

This is you blonde, is her name Natasha?

[NN52]

And the procedure for selecting and entering mass of data with your fingers on the touch displays do not need to remember?

[Undecim]

The pilot does not enter any mass of data on the display, only launches the desired program by touching the screen. In addition, there is a DVI system (voice input).

[NN52]

You are on an overload of 5-6-7-8 units. can you say something?
And why did you decide what does not enter? Enters, starting from the flight coordinates along the route, frequencies, weapon selection, etc.

[Undecim]

You are on an overload of 5-6-7-8 units. can you say something?
And with such overloads, you can operate buttons and toggle switches freely located throughout the cab. The choice of weapons in flight - on the control stick.
Using the buttons to enter flight coordinates is faster and easier?

[kit88]

Nobody, sitting in the first cockpit, enters frequencies, coordinates and other massive information. This is all pre-programmed on the ground. And what is simpler: put the mechanical biscuit in position "2" or do the same on the touch screen, it is better to ask the medicine.
Or try to dial the number yourself on the old phone, and then on the smartphone. In my opinion the same.

[NN52]

kit88 (Alexander
Enter in flight, and how ... in the case of redirection in flight, task changes, etc.

[kit88]

OK. We will increase our knowledge of the related type.
So with A-313-5, what is in the first cockpit, enter the coordinates of the MRP right in flight?

[NN52]

Yes, in the sandbox, they do just that.

[NN52]

Undecim
It is not so easy to work with gloves with displays .. (in winter, in cold weather, you tried to type on your smartphone with gloves? Just do not have to answer about the function with "gloves" ..)
But with buttons and switches there are no problems in chevret gloves.

[Undecim]

Wearing gloves with displays is not so easy ..
I even imagined how in an impotent rage the American pilot poked his gloves into the display, cursing the Lockheed Martin designers and recalls with anguish the Curtiss P-36 Hawk cockpit seen in the museum.

You, as I understand it, argue out of pure obstinacy. Shoulder straps oblige?

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Undecim

recalls longingly seen in the museum cabin Curtiss P-36 Hawk.

The sight on Hawk is simple and convenient. Such would be on the MiG-35 to punch, others to envy ...

[Undecim]

A typical style of urapatriota - for lack of clear arguments we pass on to rudeness and insults.

[NN52]

We have already communicated with you.
And then I told you, don’t go to a place where you don’t understand anything ..
Who in the subject, then everyone understood everything. Arguments and examples, and the photo I gave enough.
Communicate in the History section, where you can do better.
And about styles, not for you to argue from there, dear.

[Undecim]

no need to climb where you don’t understand anything ..
"You are so zealous to judge the sins of others, start with your own and you won't get to strangers."
Dmitry, read more classics, can be rude to unlearn how and learn how to communicate normally. Good luck

[NN52]

"In human ignorance, it is very comforting to consider everything as nonsense that you do not know."
Good luck too, in your arrogance.

[Undecim]

I am glad that you followed my advice and turned to the classics, as well as the one that gave you the opportunity to poke minuses in my comments. An intellectual of your level is a very characteristic occupation.

[NN52]

I’m not doing such fun things as cons.
And my plus, we must try to get ...
Although .. if you feel better, catch ....

[Undecim]

And my plus, we must try to get ...
Thank you, laughed heartily! But remember - pride is a grave sin.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Undecim

Undecim

Kourios, have you ever been told that you are a bore? Well, so I'll tell you this, sick of it, right

[Undecim]

Intervention in someone else's conversation is a negative communicative phenomenon, to which they react, usually with linguistic and paralinguistic (kinetic) means, which are prohibited on the site.
And the fact that someone is tired of you on the site is exclusively your problem, contact your psychologist.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Undecim

Interfering in someone else's conversation is a negative communicative phenomenon

Right And now - look carefully in the mirror:

You got into the conversation of people who know the subject with "smart" remarks about gloves and toggle switches, ahem, much better than you:

Quote: Undecim

I would suggest that this is a lantern opening

Here is your level in this matter.

You were advised, gently - go where you came from. In "History", that is. And you are boring ... uncooked

Quote: Undecim

to which they respond, usually prohibited on the site by linguistic and paralinguistic (kinetic) means

Write easier, but sculpt errors ... in-tel-lek-tu-al ... with "kinematic means"

Everything in the garden. What I wanted to say - I said, you heard. Over

PS:

the fact that someone is tired of you on the site is exclusively your problem, contact your psychologist

Well, here's a bore ... patented

My friend, another such recommendation - and I will send you to yours. I can

[Undecim]

i said you heard
Good phrase! Are you getting ready for the desktop Buonaparte competition?

[Undecim]

My friend, another such recommendation - and I will send you to yours. I can
This is not a recommendation. This is an urgent need. And be sure to take the skill with you.

[NN52]

"Pride is inherent in all people, the only difference is how and when they show it."

[Puzoter]

The button can be pressed by touch and tactilely determine whether it is pressed or not, and the display buttons must be controlled visually, distracting attention. So you can joke about "soviet technologies" as much as you like, but the fact that they work in the most extreme conditions has been tested for decades, and how all sorts of newfangled chips will behave, which, perhaps, have introduced something for the sole purpose of "saving on buttons", nobody knows.

[ultra]

Quote: Undecim

In addition, there is a DVI system (voice input).

And all my life I thought that this is a system for recording and playing digital video.

[Undecim]

Obviously not you alone.
Direct Voice Input (DVI) - Direct voice input. Sometimes called voice input control (VIC).

[Puzoter]

Everyone knows how voice input works on the example of iPhone - understands through a word. Imagine now how you, in a combat situation, give voice commands interspersing them with strong words. This voice input is another high-tech toy, no more.

[NN52]

Do not enter any array of information, say?
Or is it such a poor-quality display among the Americans? (just don’t talk about the poor quality of the photo ...)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: NN52

Do not enter any array of information, say?
Or is it such a poor-quality display among the Americans?

Learning to play such an accordion will not be easier than to play the piano and accordion with one hand at the same time.

[Okolotochny]

The point is in the software, most likely. On the F-35, many data are processed by the "brain", and then displayed to the pilot, outputting them. The MiG displays primary data. IMHO of course.

[Puzoter]

The location of the buttons for me is much easier to remember than all sorts of menus, which also change from update to update. And if one screen fails, it can be duplicated by another, and in extreme cases, "arrow pointers and toggle switches", and in the F-35 the breakdown of the screen is at best equal to the loss of combat capability, at worst - a disaster.

[Voyager]

Look at it the other way. I apologize in advance to everyone for such a comparison below, but at one time this concept was very easily and simply shown by Jobs during the demonstration of the first iPhone:

An ordinary button smart has one unique plus in terms of ergonomics: indeed, the buttons are tactile and you can remember their location. In some cases, this allows you to perform operations blindly without looking at the screen. However, this also imposes a restriction on the phone due to the fact that you cannot provide the most convenient interface for a specific situation. The iPhone at the time began the era when the interface is provided on the screen in the form in which it is required in a particular situation. One application - here is the corresponding set of buttons and tools for you. Another application is a different set. But he wanted to - he hid the tools altogether and completely pay your attention to what is happening on the screen.

Similarly, here. In most situations, the pilot needs only a certain, limited set of parameters and tools, and the more they are available, the better. And the shortcomings of such a system can be solved in various ways, including an extensive helmet-mounted display, which is preached in the F-35. Western pilots spend a lot of training effort on working out interactions with large data streams. Ours still have the same

P.S
By the way, Bogdan himself once said that such (our) displays are good in that if one of them fails, you can transfer the necessary tools and indicators to another, combine them, unlike mechanics.

[lucul]

The iPhone at the time began the era when the interface is provided on the screen in the form in which it is required in a particular situation. One application - here is the corresponding set of buttons and tools for you. Another application is a different set. But he wanted to - he hid the tools altogether and completely pay your attention to what is happening on the screen.

Seriously ?
You probably don’t know that back in 2001 PDAs were widely spread - a personal digital assistant. Jobs just adapted them for the calls. And so the iPhone turned out.

[Voyager]

A PDA and a finger-oriented smartphone are completely different things. I was hoping I wouldn’t have to explain it.

Before Jobs, there were already smartphones with touch displays, but these displays were small and resistive, and therefore were not suitable for comfortable use with a finger. That is why Jobs (and also LG, but they did not take off) began the era of smartphones, as we know them now. Capacitive displays and a well-designed UI

[Zaurbek]

At the exhibition, KRET showed a new avionics for the Su57 ... there is also a concave pier glass - a single display and color projection.

http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2933&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10680

[bk316]

it looks more reliable and they have only screens

if you look at the picture, not ONE screen is dangerous

[tomket]

Quote: Undecim

For comparison - the pilot's cabin F-35

From a computer game .....

[aiden]

Here is a designed for the MiG-35

[Andrey Andreev_4]

Quote: Undecim

... Pilot cockpit MIG-35.

And what is the handle in the lower right corner of the picture? It looks like a door opener in Soviet Lada.

[Undecim]

I would suggest that this is a lantern opening.

[Pavel57]

If Mig-35 costs 60% of Su-35, then it is already worth releasing it for yourself and to maintain the ability to sell it for export.
Although exporting, it would be nice to have something really light like the Chinese J-10, JF-17 or Grippen.

[Nycomed]

And now we have the 29th fly over the city in honor of the Day of the Armsman. I can see from the balcony. He took the binoculars. Four flies. They say tomorrow will be. Maybe it’s a closer look? But, the weather is something ... Cool.

[Laksamana besar]

.........................

[Andrey Andreev_4]

In Russia, this often happens. They are designing a fighter, but it turns out a tanker)) Of course, the plane turned out to be good, but was late for thirty years with the release.

[Klingon]

Quote: voyaka uh

Do not stop. But reflection will decrease.
Replacement with composites is not enough. Need to change shape,
angle of installation, replace all corners with "faceted" and coat with stealth coating.
Then the plane starts to "disappear" for the radar.
(F-35 has all planes and keels from composites. Only
aluminum fuselage.)

maybe it’s better to borrow technology from the Klingons ??, the coverage of their * birds of prey * does not reflect not only radio waves but also the usual spectrum. They can be detected only by the signature of the use of weapons (launch of a torpedo or disruptor in the form of particle emission) or by the signature of the warp engine (gravitational distortions)

[Dmitry Vyazmenskiy]

Quote: voyaka uh

I read it about F-15. When Boeing tried to make him
"Silent Eagle", then first of all set the keels at an angle.
Without this, all other measures to reduce radio stealth are meaningless.
EPR of the usual F-15 without external suspensions and pylons - 10 m2.
With them - 15 m2
Now compare: Su-27 of the same scheme, but larger than F-15.
MiG-35 of the same scheme and approximately equal in size to the F-15.

I am not an expert, but the f15 is clearly larger than the MiG35, and secondly the keels can be from radio-transparent materials! Or am I wrong? And finally, I think the MiG developers are better at knowing the warrior))

Quote: voyaka uh

I read it about F-15. When Boeing tried to make him
"Silent Eagle", then first of all set the keels at an angle.
Without this, all other measures to reduce radio stealth are meaningless.
EPR of the usual F-15 without external suspensions and pylons - 10 m2.
With them - 15 m2
Now compare: Su-27 of the same scheme, but larger than F-15.
MiG-35 of the same scheme and approximately equal in size to the F-15.

Firstly, the f15 is equal to the Su27, and the MiG35 is a small plane. Secondly, keels can be from radio transparent materials. Thirdly, MiG developers know better, I'm 100% sure of that!

[NN52]

What are you .... The warrior has already shot down everyone with his F 35 and ..

[Gambi]

Guys! Are you out of your mind? What is a modern airplane after Medvedev said that there is no money. And yet there is no high-tech. They will now repaint some junk and say that the new plane
And they themselves will cut the money ... which is not there.

[Aviationism]

Hello everyone from North America. I am not Russian, but I hope that you accept me. Many thanks.

About the MiG-35.
I think that the MiG Design Bureau and the Government of the Russian Federation make a huge mistake by missing the opportunity to produce the best fighter in the air since all time.
As it is now proposed, the 35th's only striking advantage over competitors is its price. In battle, he will lose to the French Rafale.

Any pilot, when in an air battle, clearly thinks of his maneuverability and of his instant acceleration in all directions. All other excellent features of a fighter are relatively minor to a fighter pilot. It is precisely this maneuverability that the Su-35 pilots admire. That is what they show the whole world. This is what pilots all over the world envy.

MiG-35 with a controlled thrust vector (UHT) and with a thrust ratio higher than 1: 1, may become the most effective fighter for classic warriors in history.
Not all countries are USA, China or Russia.
Despite what the Su-30/35 are capable of, they are too large and too heavy to be considered agile. Inertia remains inertia.
MiG-35 with UVT, fully integrated in the aircraft control system, will fly circles around Sushki. Just look at the MiG-29 ATS video on YouTube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DDdvzFmVm-Y

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BdVJPZAKAQE

Of course, the weight of the rotary nozzles reduce the fighting load of the “bomber” version, but fighter pilots will not complain.

I'm probably mistaken, but I have the impression that all of Russia is mesmerized in the Su-30/35. They are magnificent interceptor fighters and deserve the high marks they receive (especially the beauty of all two-seater options), but the MiG-35 will be better as a pure fighter.

Maybe the management of the MiG Design Bureau does not want to compete with Sukhoi. It will be a pity!


PS. I apologize for my broken Russian language :-(
and, if you agree with these arguments, please enrich them and tell someone who is helpful. :-)