Thai mercenaries in the American war. Vietnam and Laos

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During the Second Indochina War (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Thailand), Thailand was one of the main US allies. In fact, it was a key ally, without which the conduct of war in the form in which it was going would be impossible in principle. This state of affairs had a solid foundation.


Thai mercenaries in Laos. Photo: James Busbin




Anti-Communist Citadel


The spread of left-wing ideas in Southeast Asia, from the very beginning was regarded by the Thai elites as a threat to the existence of monarchical Thailand. While in Laos and Cambodia, representatives of monarchist families were at the same time left-wing leaders and headed the transition to a republican form of government (which resulted in civil wars), in Thailand there was a strong national consensus about socialism, communism, and the need to adhere to the traditional monarchic form of government. Seeing the growing popularity of left-wing ideas, both in Thailand itself (limitedly, mainly among ethnic Chinese and Vietnamese), and around, all the leaders of Thailand, periodically replacing each other during coups, relied on cooperation with the United States.

Since the times of Truman and the Korean War, Thailand has become a participant in American military operations against the "communist threat." The communist victory in Vietnam made the Thais fanatical supporters of the United States, ready to deploy American troops on their territory and participate in American operations. The growing influence and power of “Pathet Lao” in Laos and the growing involvement of Vietnam in this country made the Thais even more supporters of harsh measures than the Americans themselves were.

Not surprisingly, Thailand has become one of the first countries in SEATO - the pro-American military bloc in Asia.

The Americans did not remain in debt, and at their own expense built civilian infrastructure in Thailand, for example, roads, and in large, unbearable volumes for Thailand. This stimulated the economic development of the country and further strengthened pro-American sentiments among the local population.

Field Marshal Sarit Tanarat, who came to power in Thailand in 1958, took a place in the American “ranks” at the earliest opportunity. In 1961, the US ambassador in Bangkok, William Johnson, asked Tanarat to place American troops in Thailand for conducting covert operations against Pathet Lao. Such agreement was obtained and Thais struck secret operations with the United States from 1961.

From April 1961, the CIA launched Operation Project Ekrarad, the essence of which was to organize the training of Laotian military in camps in Thailand. President Kennedy also personally made sure that the Thai army allocated for the "project" and its instructors. Moreover, Tanarat ordered that the Americans could recruit personnel of the Thai military to be hired. These people were excluded from the lists of personnel and they went to Laos as instructors, advisers, pilots, and sometimes fighters. There they wore uniforms and insignia of the royal army. The United States paid for all these actions, and in principle, a significant part of Thai military spending.

In this approach, there was nothing new, the Americans trained the Thai National Police (Thai National police - TNP) to conduct special operations in Laos back in 1951, and the Police Aerial Reconnaissance Unit (PARU) was also trained by them conducting aerial counterguerrilla operations. Later, PARU will fight in Laos, secretly, of course. The number of CIA operatives back in the distant 1953 year was equal to two hundred, and by the 1961 year everything was aggravated. After all, the opposition of the left in Laos was in the vital interests of Thailand, which needed a “buffer” between itself and the gaining strength of North Vietnam. At first, however, everything was limited to 60 by the Thais in the royal army of Laos, the raids of PARU and border guards on Lao territory, and the intelligence and training of the Lao in Thai training camps.

The military successes of "Patet Lao" forced to reconsider the situation. The Thais put pressure on the United States, demanding additional security guarantees, and better open intervention in the events. Despite the fact that Kennedy did not perceive Laos as a vital point in the fight against communism, the Thais ultimately achieved their goal and in May the US Marine Corps began to unload 1962 in Thai ports. 18 May 1962, the 6500 Marines landed from the Valley Forge ship on Thai soil. In addition, the United States also deployed 165 special forces from the Green Berets and 84 instructors from other branches of the military. By this time, the Thais had already deployed several thousand soldiers along the Mekong River, in readiness for the invasion of Laos.

US troops did not stay in Thailand for long - after signing a truce in Geneva between the warring parties to the Lao war, Kennedy recalled the troops back. But by that time, the interaction between the Americans and the Thais had already been established at a very high level, the American presence was deployed at the air bases of Korat and Tahli, and American aircraft from these bases were already conducting reconnaissance over Laos and occasionally attacking Pathet Lao. Tahli also became home to the U-2 and SR-71 scouts, as well as to Air America helicopters and helicopters. The entire infrastructure, which allows Americans and Thais to work together, was already established and ready for a “restart”. By the end of 1962, it became clear that the Vietnamese were not going to leave Laos despite the fact that the civil war had subsided there, and that the number of their contingent had already reached 9000 people stationed in the mountainous eastern provinces. The Vietnamese had already created the “Ho Chi Minh Trail”, which was supposed to help them unite the country, and had already delivered supplies for the Viet Cong to the south. Soon the Americans began to consider the possibility of returning to Thailand.

Sarit Tanarat died a few weeks after the Kennedy assassination, but the arrival of the new Prime Minister Field Marshal Tanom Kittikachon did not change anything - cooperation continued and grew. In the 1964 year, when the Americans started Farm Gate project - secret bombing of the Viet Cong and the “Ho Chi Minh Trails” on old combat aircraft, Thai air bases were at their service.

After the Tonkin incident and the open US entry into the war, the Thais "bit the bit." The Thai military together with the Americans prepared the invasion of Laos, the Thai-trained pilots participated in the Lao open war, sometimes allowing themselves to bomb targets for which the Americans did not give consent (for example, Chinese cultural and economic missions, in fact, resident). In addition to Korat and Tahli, the Americans received the Udorn airbase. The number of US Air Force bases in Thailand has grown steadily. In 1965, most of the US sorties against North Vietnam and the Ho Chi Minh Trail were from Thai territory. If at the beginning of 1966 in Thailand there were 200 American planes and 9000 people of the US Armed Forces personnel, by the end of the year there were already 400 planes and 25000 people.


Landing B-52D on Utapao. KC-135 prepares for takeoff


In the spring of 1966, the Americans completed the construction of the Utapao airbase, from which the B-52 Stratofortress began to fly on combat missions. Each such sortie saved US 8000 dollars on a plane when compared with the cost of departures from Guam. From the time of commissioning until the end of 1968, Utapao provided 1500 airplanes against Vietnam every week, and about 80% of all American combat sorties were carried out from Thai bases. With Utapao together there were six such bases.

At the same time, the territory of Thailand was used by the Americans as a large recreation area. If someone does not know, then the tourist sector of the Thai economy began to take shape precisely thanks to the rest of the American military.

Today, historians are unanimous in their opinion that without the help of Thailand, America would not have been able to wage such a war against North Vietnam, which it fought.

Lyndon Johnson, who came to power in the United States after the Kennedy assassination, was not only interested in such support. Back in 1964, he proclaimed the “More Flags” program, the purpose of which was to attract new allies to the Vietnam War. And if Australia openly sent its military contingent to Vietnam, other countries simply rented out their soldiers in exchange for American money. In the list of these countries were South Korea, the Philippines and, of course, Thailand.

The idea of ​​war against communism shook Thai society. It cost Kittikachon to announce the sending of troops to help the US at the beginning of 1966, as volunteers began to besiege the recruiting stations - in Bangkok alone they were recruited 5000 people in the first few months of 1966. The Americans trained these people, after which they organized themselves into combat units and went to the combat zone.

By the end of 1971, two Thais, the "Royal Cobras" and the "Black Panthers", a total of 11000 people, had already fought in South Vietnam, being trained and equipped according to American standards. At the same time, the first Thais arrived in Vietnam much earlier, the first detachments appeared there as early as 1967.


Thais in South Vietnam


But the Americans had another problem point where people were needed - Laos. The country where they needed to win the local civil war and defeat the Vietnamese newcomers, who maintained their communications with the Viet Cong. And there, in Laos, the Americans needed significantly more people, because in Vietnam they could fight themselves, and they couldn’t invade Laos, this war was “secret”, and so they entered into history. By the 1969 year, when both the Hmongs General Wang Pao and the royalists began to end not only personnel, but also a mobilization resource, the Americans who were in charge of this war faced the question of where to take the living force for this war - as for the actual battles for Laos and for operations against the “Ho Chi Minh Trail”, which became vital for reducing the heat of the war in southern Vietnam.

The source of this manpower was Thailand.

Operation "Unity"


Since the beginning of Lao training in Thailand, the Thai army has created the “333 Division” - the headquarters for coordinating with the Americans. On the part of the latter, the so-called “Special Communication Squad” of the CIA served the same purpose. When the presence of the Thais on the territory of Laos became necessary to expand, these units took over the organization of their preparation and dispatch.

Thai mercenaries in the American war. Vietnam and Laos

Thai mercenaries in Laos. Photo: James Busbin


The first sign was the participation of the Thai Army artillerymen, along with their guns in battles on the approaches to the Valley of Jars in 1964, against Pathet Lao (codename of the unit in the American Special Requirement training program 1). Later, in 1969, another special requirement 8 unit fought there, for Muang Sui, against the Vietnamese, and this time without success. These two battalions of artillery (in our terms - two divisions) were the first detachments of Thais who fought in Laos. Then others followed. In 1970, another battalion of artillery, SP9, was deployed to the main base of Lon Chen to help the bloodless Hmongs. Behind him - 13-I regimental group. At that moment, the troops of Wang Pao could be held only at the expense of these people. But the peak of the number of Thais in the Lao war came at the beginning of the seventies.


Thai mercenaries in Laos. Photo: James Busbin


In the 1970 year, when, as a result of a coup, power in neighboring Cambodia seized Lon Nol, the Thai government gained 5000 fighters to invade this country. But the Americans managed to convince the Thais of the need to use these and other forces not in Cambodia, but in Laos. Soon, a set of additional fighters, their training and use came under the control of the Americans.

Thus began the operation "Unity" - "Unity".

The newly trained Thais were organized into battalions, 495 people each. The term of the contract of the fighter in the battalion was estimated to be one year, then it could be extended. The combat battalions received the Lao commando battalion and the numbers starting with the number “6” - this was the difference in the designation of Thai units from the Lao proper. The first battalions received numbers 601, 602, etc. The preparation of the 601 and 602 battalions ended by the beginning of December of the 1970, and in mid-December they were already thrown into battle. American curators, accustomed to the worthlessness of Lao wax, were pleasantly surprised by the results of Thais attacks.


CIA operative James Parker, Laos, early seventies. Parker was an officer in the US Army in Vientam, fought in the infantry, and was recruited by the CIA for the Secret War in 1970. Such people ruled this war "on the spot"


From this point on, both in operations against the “trail,” and in the battles for Laos itself, the role and number of Thais will continuously grow. Wanting to get as many soldiers as possible, the CIA began to recruit people without military experience into training camps. As a result, in June 1971, if the number of Thai mercenary units destined for the war in Laos was equal to 14028 people, then by the end of September, 21413. As royalists and Hmongs diminished the number of personnel, the proportion of Thais grew higher and higher. By the end of 1972, the Thais formed the basis of their troops during any royalist offensive. They now fought under the command of Wang Pao, who literally spent his people in battle. His soldiers took the royalists nowhere.


Thai mercenary in Laos. Photo: James Busbin


Thais managed a lot. They seriously violated the supply of "Trope". They once again returned to the Hmongs and royalists Muang Sui. In fact, they were the only effective military force that fought against the Vietnamese in Laos. The Hmongs, who could sometimes knock out parts of the VNA from their positions with American air support, were significantly inferior to the Thais in everything. However, everything comes to an end. During the powerful counterattack in the Valley of the Jugs in 1971, the Vietnamese inflicted a heavy defeat on the Thais. For the first time applied to Laos, Vietnamese MiGs cleared the sky for the VNA ground units and provided favorable conditions for an offensive.

Soviet 130-mm guns allowed the Vietnamese to naturally incinerate Thai artillery units. Accustomed to American, Lao and Thai air support, Thais were unable to hold positions when the enemy dominated the sky. The Thais were forced to flee the battlefield, leaving the Vietnamese with about a hundred artillery pieces and a huge amount of ammunition. Nevertheless, having reached the main Hmong base in Lon Chan, they called “rested” and again saved the situation for the Americans. Without these soldiers, the war in Laos would have been won by Vietnam and Pathet Lao at about the end of 1971. With the Thais, she stretched for several more years.

In total, as part of Operation Unity, the Americans prepared the 27 infantry and 3 artillery battalions.

The mercenaries were “in service” before the truce of the 22 signed on February 1973 in February. After that, among the mercenaries, fermentation began, quickly developing into desertion. In the 1973 year, almost half of them fled in search of new employers or just any job. The remaining approximately 10 000 fighters were eventually transferred back to Thailand and dispersed to their homes.

Pilots


Thais played a special role in the air war in Laos. And not so much as pilots (which was also the case and it was important), but as as airborne air guides, Forward Air controllers. Flying on light-engine Cessna as signalmen and letnabs, sometimes with American pilots (also mercenaries) sometimes on their own, Thais made up a significant part of the unit known as the Ravens FAC. This group of advanced air guidance throughout the war provided the American, Royalist and Thai shock Aviation in Laos, accurate target designation and the assessment of the results of airstrikes, also very accurate. Thais, often with minimal flying experience, made a significant contribution to the work of this group.


One of the Ravens pilots in the background of his unmarked aircraft



American pilot and Thai aircraft observer



Thai aircraft observer



Thai aircraft observer


At the same time, the Americans also taught pilots who not only provided royalists in Laos with air support, but also participated in Thailand’s own war with Chinese influence in the region.

From 1971, several UH-1 helicopters were also piloted by Thai pilots trained by the Americans.

In conclusion, it should be said that the mercenaries fought even when their own government was already negotiating with Vietnam and groping for contacts with China.

The Americans tried to keep the operation "Unity" in secret. Thais did not appear anywhere under their own names, they were recorded by nicknames; when they entered the hospital, they were registered as “John Dow 1”, “John Dow 2”. To this day, studies like photos of Thai mercenaries have written something like Battleship, Sunrise, and the like instead of names.

Conclusion


Thailand received tremendous economic benefits from American assistance. The level of development that this country has today is due to the huge money that the US has invested in Thailand for supporting the war against Vietnam. In fact, for Thailand, the American war turned out to be advantageous - it strengthened it, without demanding anything in return, except for a few hundred dead. Even from a military point of view, Thailand came out of it more than it was - a lot of experienced soldiers returned from the war, and the Americans transferred a lot of military equipment to Thailand.

There is, however, one "but." If the Thai veterans of Vietnam in the country, as they say, “in honor”, ​​then those who fought in Laos are forgotten and are not interesting to anyone except themselves. However, it is precisely this fact that hardly matters for anyone except themselves.
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  1. +8
    1 June 2019 07: 01
    Well written, interesting article with completely new information for me. Thanks!
    1. +5
      1 June 2019 17: 40
      I agree: the material is interesting. Of course, there were some publications about this at the time, but they have already been forgotten.
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    1. +7
      1 June 2019 12: 35
      With this approach, you need to sit at home. Because: the Americans fought against us in Afghanistan, respectively, we don’t go to the United States, the half of Europe didn’t go with us during the Second World War, we imposed sanctions against us or didn’t go again, the Chinese did not fight against us (Damansky), in Africa too our advisers died again, we are not going. So where to go? To the penguins in Antarctica?
      1. +3
        1 June 2019 21: 11
        To Cuba, North Korea and Belarus!
        1. +4
          2 June 2019 09: 16
          They forgot Mongolia! But no ... the Tatar-MONGOLIAN ... disappears. laughing
          1. +2
            2 June 2019 09: 16
            That's why I didn’t call her))))
    2. +3
      3 June 2019 09: 35
      What is VNR? Hungarian People's Republic? There was a DRV - the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. After the unification of the country, it was renamed the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. And so far Vietnam is called that.
  3. +3
    1 June 2019 07: 20
    Very interesting! Thanks for the informative!
  4. +2
    1 June 2019 08: 19
    I didn’t know anything about this. That's what happened! To the author ----- Respect !!!!
    1. +2
      1 June 2019 08: 50
      I heard about it briefly, but no more. Thank you for a rather informative article.
  5. +4
    1 June 2019 09: 02
    The author is very grateful. I would like to add that the clashes between Thais and Vietnamese in Laos and Cambodia began in the late 18th century ...
    1. +2
      1 June 2019 11: 04
      Yes, all the conflicts there are very old. By the way, Thailand wanted to "under the guise" also involve Burma in the war and "resolve issues there," the Americans had to seriously strain to prevent this from happening.
  6. +19
    1 June 2019 11: 40
    I had a cousin on my father. He was born in 1945, in 1963 he was taken into the army, in 1964-1966 he fought in Laos. Our Vietnamese nationality is called Tày (the number is currently 1,6 million). In addition to us, the Thái people (1,4 million) also live in the mountainous regions of North Vietnam. Our languages ​​(Tày and Thái) are 70-80% similar to Lao and Thai (and these languages ​​are 80-90% similar to each other), so our fighters from the Tày and Thái ethnic groups mainly fought in Laos (everyone was born and grew up in mountainous areas, the Lao language and customs were well known).
    In 1967, my cousin was recalled to Vietnam and sent to a retraining course at the special forces school. There, among other things, his group was taught by North Korean instructors in hand-to-hand combat. After retraining, his group was sent to South Vietnam to fight with the South Koreans.
    He returned home only in 1979 (he fought for 15 years and in all this time he wrote only 3 letters home!) With the rank of major. I loved listening to his stories about the war. He said: “I fought with many. Lao and tais are useless warriors, it’s easy with them. With the South Vietnamese a little more difficult - cowardly, but cunning. It’s hard with the Americans - they themselves are mediocre warriors, but their fiery power is just oh oh oh! The South Koreans, the brave, cruel warriors, fought best of all, so only our selected units fought with them. We never captured the South Koreans. Sometimes they gave up, but we shot them all. And - if there was an opportunity - before leaving the battlefield, we ripped off their bodies and chopped off their heads. “How cruel!” I exclaimed. And he replied: “With the South Koreans only this way. So that they respect us. In a war, being humane is stupid. In Cambodia, I saw many deaths of our young soldiers because of my stupidity, so I taught my soldiers: “Do not spare anyone, shoot anyone - at least a 12-year-old boy, at least a 60-year-old granny - if they have weapons in their hands! And thanks to my instructions in our battalion, minimal losses. " He paused for a little while and added: “I am convinced that I survived after 15 years of war because I was cruel and did not trust anyone except close friends. Twice I was denied the title of hero of the armed forces due to the fact that I was undisciplined - I took liberties, killed everyone and everything. And in figs I’m a hero, I just wanted to survive! ”
    Last year, my brother died - an unsuccessful VNA hero.
    1. +9
      1 June 2019 12: 39
      Land in peace for your brother. The main thing came back alive and the soldier took care. Eternal memory to him and human thanks!
    2. +5
      1 June 2019 15: 21
      . He said: “I fought with many. Laotians and Taiches - useless warriors


      Thais are better than Lao, if they are guided by historical experience. Thank you, by the way, for your comments, very interesting, especially about Duck Kong, the topic is absolutely unknown in our country.
      1. +9
        1 June 2019 16: 36
        Here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MZoJL6seRA
        tells how our commandos attacked American airfields in Thailand.

        On one of the May nights of 1968, 5 VNA special forces soldiers secretly reached the hangars of the Udon airfield and destroyed 4 F-5 aircraft with powerful mines. The explosion of mines killed 24 US military personnel. During the shootout, 2 fighters were killed, the other three managed to escape and return to Laos.
        For 3 months, 2 Thai-speaking VNA commandos worked on a farm near Utapao airfield (190 km from Bangkok, B-52 base). The owner of the farm was a Thai of Lao origin, a member of Patet Lao. The commandos worked as peasants and studied the operating mode of the Utapao airfield. On the night of August 3–4, 1968, they secretly entered the airfield, attached slow-motion mines to 2 B-52s (each containing 5 kg of explosives), and safely returned to the farm. An hour later, powerful explosions occurred, 2 “flying fortresses” were destroyed.
        1. +2
          1 June 2019 17: 49
          Dear Vivan, I think many comrades will be interested to read about the work of your special forces at that time. This is a great theme.
          1. +9
            1 June 2019 18: 29
            They are told about the exploits of our special forces (dakkong) in newspapers and books, but they are silent about the technical aspect of his actions (what is most interesting to readers). Some of my relatives (including my own brother) served in the Dakkong, so I’ll tell you something, but for now see how the fighters of our Dakkong train:


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t_CgGmW0AE
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trxN13L-Djg
            1. +2
              1 June 2019 21: 10
              Trash))
              Barefoot on a barbed wire buried in the ground with a tube outside ... brrr
              Hard good
            2. +2
              1 June 2019 22: 58
              I understand that you consider that the target must be destroyed by the special group, that is, your fighters are still primarily saboteurs, right?
              1. +4
                2 June 2019 04: 30
                Until the complete withdrawal of American troops from South Vietnam (March 1973), the Dakkong can be divided into 2 types:
                a) suicide bombers to destroy important enemy objects (airfields, ports, ammunition depots, bridges, etc.). These special groups were, as a rule, small in number (no more than 10 people), and each time before sending the group to perform the assignment, a solemn funeral ceremony was held (a series of coffins with flags, delivery of orders, last farewell to comrades). It was believed that no one would return from the mission, but sometimes a miracle happened - after all, some survived. Everyone who completed 3 death assignments received a star of the hero, and those who managed to survive 5 funeral ceremonies became instructors and did not participate in combat missions further;
                b) selected units, consisting of soldiers with good health, who knew the methods of hand-to-hand combat and knew how to use many types of weapons. These units (usually a platoon, sometimes a company) were used to reconnaissance, hold key bridgeheads and carry out lightning operations to destroy the enemy’s elite units (the purpose of such operations was only to destroy enemy manpower, and not to capture the object). My cousin served in this species of Dakkong.

                With the departure of the Americans, there was no need for suicide bombers, and the number of VNA troops in South Vietnam increased from 200 to 350 thousand, so many Dakkong commanders (including my cousin) were promoted and transferred to the regular infantry.

                Now in our army, the preparation of 2 of the above types of daconga continues (type “a” - small, extremely harsh conditions; type “b” - lower requirements, scale - to the battalion).
            3. +1
              2 June 2019 01: 33
              Quote: Vivan
              They are told about the exploits of our special forces (dakkong) in newspapers and books, but they are silent about the technical aspect of his actions (what is most interesting to readers). Some of my relatives (including my own brother) served in the Dakkong, so I’ll tell you something, but for now see how the fighters of our Dakkong train:


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t_CgGmW0AE
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trxN13L-Djg

              dak kong in general "animals" (in the best sense of the word), I watched about their training more than once, these are not soggy from technology, these are real predators
              1. +6
                2 June 2019 05: 42
                In 1973, a series of articles about my fellow countryman (we were from the same nationality and province, I was just studying in Moscow), the hero of VNA Zong Kong Shuu (Dương Công Sửu), was published in the newspaper “Kuan doi nyan zan” (People’s Army) ) His father was a kungfu master, so when he joined the army he was immediately enrolled in dakkong. After 3 years of fighting on the central plateau of Teynguen (South Vietnam) at the age of 22, he became the commander of the battalion of the Dakkong, who reported directly to the commander of the military district (bypassing the commanders of regiments and divisions). He was distinguished by fearlessness and extreme insolence. So, when studying the outpost of Langwei (7 km from the well-known base of Khesan), guarded by a battalion of rangers of the Saigon army, 2 groups of scouts made a detailed outline of the outpost and showed it to him. He studied the scheme for half an hour and said: “Tonight I will go reconnaissance. One". And one went into intelligence. In the morning he returned and scolded the scouts: “Aha! You spent 2 nights reconnaissance and counted 18 embrasures, and I found the 19th tonight! Very insidious! Next to this 19th embrasure on earth, I left my lighter. Find my lighter tonight and bring it to me! ”

                In 1972, he conducted reconnaissance of the large base of Dacto. At night I entered the base, searched, counted, measured and ... did not have time to flee before dawn. I had to stay at the base. And where to hide? And he decided to hide in the toilet! The enemy’s toilet is a deep 2x2 m pit near a fence with barbed wire. He lay motionless all day in a swamp of shit, previously covering his ears with paper so that the worms would not get in there, covering his face with a sheet of used paper, and enemy soldiers would go to the toilet from time to time and relieve themselves directly on his head! So he lay there all day, waited for the night and safely got out of the base!

                After the war, he became the head of the military committee of our province and retired with the rank of colonel. He is 10 years older than me, I had a chance to stay at his house (I was friends with his younger brother). It seems nothing unusual, height 159 cm, weight 57 kg, simple, good-natured person. He talked about his adventures easily and simply, as if about a walk.
                1. +3
                  2 June 2019 06: 01
                  Quote: Vivan
                  simple, good-natured person.

                  because he knew that he had fought for a just cause, fulfilling a sacred duty, and therefore remained simple and good-natured, while being such a tough fighter.

                  Nails would be made of these people; there wouldn’t be any stronger nails in the world!

                  I am a little fond of the topic of American invasions in different countries, so even from memory I remember from maps where Teingguyen is, where Saigon was, where the demilitarized zone and the "Ho Chi Minh trail" were - all from memory before my eyes.

                  Thank you very much for the story, very interesting Vietnam prosperity! drinks
                  1. +7
                    2 June 2019 08: 06
                    Here is what Zyong Kong Shyu told me:
                    “At first, before we entered the enemy’s base, we were in shorts for 2 nights sleeping on the ground in the open air, and on the 3rd night we were buried in the ground to minimize body odor. And let's go.
                    At the beginning of 1967, we had a miracle - jars of tiger fat. Live freely, like everyone else, just immediately before leaving for the assignment, we rubbed the body with tiger fat. Any dogs - even trained shepherds - smelling a tiger, immediately fall into indescribable fear, tail tightened and can no longer walk. Opponent soldiers, dragging barely screeching dogs, do not understand what's the matter. And we quietly entered the base!
                    But then they somehow found out about tiger fat. They began to arrange along the perimeter of the bases cells with geese. The geese do not have tiger fat, and besides, they have very good hearing. Enough light rustling - and they will yell! But we quickly found a way out - geese are very afraid of snakes. So, we collected the stems of the taro plant, immersed them in boiling water and allowed to cool - and they became soft and cold, just real snakes! We used poles 5-6 m long and gently pushed the “snake” into the cells - and the geese immediately died away “quieter than water, below the grass!”.
                    Finally, the Americans decided to use (you never guess!) Bugs. Along the perimeter of the base, they placed boxes with bugs, and there, in the boxes, some sensors or sensors. Usually the bugs either lay motionless or crawled lazily, but, smelling warm blood, they immediately move and run along the walls of the boxes. And the American sitting somewhere somewhere immediately calculates in what place the saboteur penetrates! At first, we could not understand the reasons for our failures, but then our sources told us about this “biotechnology” of the Americans. And we immediately found a way out - we took chickens with us, at the last moment we turned the chickens on their necks, tied them to poles, pushed still warm chickens to the barbed wire and immediately left. But we did not leave, but went around and approached the base from the opposite side. And while they kicked grenades there and sorted out with circumstance, we penetrated the base.

                    Do you know that the Americans still figured us out by the smell of urine? Yeah, they had very sensitive instruments on helicopters for determining the concentration of urine in the air. Their helicopters flew at an altitude of 50 meters in search of the Viet Cong, and we hid under the crowns of trees. We were given cellophane bags and thin rubber rings, we all wrote in bags and immediately tied the bags tightly with rubber rings. Then they looked for a place where it is necessary to lay a highway through the mountains - and give the whole supply of urine in open buckets there. And let's bomb, stupid Americans, help us pave the way! ”
                    1. +2
                      2 June 2019 11: 33
                      why don't you write any interesting articles?
                      the topic of Vietnam and the war of the North and South is now very relevant: the Americans are still trying to attack someone for "revenge", but since the Vietnam War they have never been able to win a significant, short and resounding victory ...
                      and because of that very war, the amers had a "Vietnamese syndrome", which became such, among other things, because they merged there, plus the war was not "for the Motherland" but "to bend the communists across the sea", they allowed themselves to be butchers against mines of residents (a vivid example - Songmi) and prisoners, but at the same time they merged shamefully despite all their military power and technical superiority ... Plus, in their homeland, fellow citizens learned about their atrocities and did not consider them "hero-liberators "and saw them as thugs.
                      Now we want to start some kind of war, they are actively looking with whom it would be possible to fight loudly but shortly and victoriously - to demonstrate their level. But America is now twitching on some, then on others, then in Ukraine it flew like plywood (with a base in Sevastopol), then with Syria ("Assad MUST leave!" They shouted, but broke off again), and their moral level is now : to this day they feel the consequences of the "Vietnamese syndrome", plus they are now torn apart by attacks towards North Korea, Iran, Syria, they get rid of the Taliban in Afghanistan, etc., etc., in short, they are on their nerves and are ready to rush at someone already. ..
                      And here it would be nice to raise the theme of the war in Vietnam !!
                      let them suffer from the syndrome again.
                      and thank you again for the interesting story hi
                2. +4
                  2 June 2019 13: 11
                  It reminded me of a story about your fighters, which I heard a long time ago.

                  The special group leaked onto the American airbase and, during the night, equipped several caches between the aircraft stops and taxiways. Day they lie down in them, mined the planes at night and again went into these pits.
                  After the bombing of the aircraft, the Americans spent a wide round-up in the surrounding area, but found no one. Your special group otlyvezhivalas several days right on the American base, and when the activity of the Americans returned to normal (about a week later) came out and went to hers without a loss. Americans seem to have lost seven aircraft in that raid.
                  1. +2
                    2 June 2019 13: 14
                    these are real saboteurs!
    3. +3
      1 June 2019 20: 58
      For some reason, they are always silent about the Hangug affairs in Vietnam. Mostly "American atrocities, American atrocities." They did the right thing that the South Koreans were not taken prisoner. They were worse than the SS in WWII. I have not heard of their bravery, but they exterminated the local population in Vietnam. For this they became famous, and not for military courage.
      1. +3
        1 June 2019 21: 20
        Koreans are cruel people in principle. They fought in their "own" war of 1950-1953 in a way that no Americans could.
        1. +1
          1 June 2019 23: 05
          That is yes. The suppression of the rebellion in Jeju. You can’t attract Americans there, they just weren’t on the island. Or a later uprising in Gwangju.
          1. 0
            2 June 2019 09: 35
            Thank you, your comments on an interesting article made it great.
    4. +2
      3 June 2019 10: 02
      Ready to confirm. I had a friend who fought in the Soviet underwater special forces in Vietnam. He said that the hardest thing was with the Koreans. Green berets from our ran.
      1. +1
        3 June 2019 10: 59
        Cool comments for a wonderful article! It’s great that the Vietnamese comrade wrote!
        It is a pity that due to the irregular working day I could not read the previous articles of the respected Author on time. But I’ll certainly catch up!
        My cousin grandfather worked for more than 10 years in Vietnam on critical construction sites, rarely came home. He told me a lot about Vietnam already in old age, always with respect and warmth spoke about the country and people. He has long been dead.
    5. 0
      3 June 2019 20: 03
      Quote: Vivan
      Do not spare anyone, shoot anyone - at least a 12-year-old boy, at least a 60-year-old granny - if they have weapons in their hands!


      What a juicy look. Stereotypes usually attribute this kind of attitude to the local population to the opposite side.
      1. 0
        4 June 2019 05: 06
        Note the important detail: “if they have a weapon in their hands”. My brother talked about one incident that happened to him in Cambodia:
        “About 3 days we stopped to rest until the next morning. For the camp from canvas tents, we chose a lawn half a kilometer from the Cambodian village. A Khmer boy of about 13 approached us and motioned for a cigarette. Our soldiers tell him: “You are so small - and already smoke? Not good! ”, But still they gave him a cigarette. I sat 3-4 meters from a Khmer boy, and it seemed suspicious to me that he had one hand in his shirt pocket and his eyes were running all the time, so I kept my gun ready and kept my eyes on him. Having received a cigarette, the boy said in Vietnamese: “Thank you!” And, going back about 5 meters, took a grenade out of his pocket. While he raised his other hand to the crown ring of a grenade, I already managed to make 2 shots and killed him on the spot! Everyone gasped!
        I told the soldiers: “There is nothing to fraternize with them! We are at war, do you understand? Today, if it weren’t for me, then several fools would have already lay in the coffins. Remember once and for all: when any Cambodian approaches, shout: “Stop! I will shoot! Arms up! ”And keep the machine at the ready, and someone else should come up to him, carefully search him before making contact with him.”
  7. +2
    1 June 2019 14: 14
    The article is interesting. However, it’s not worthwhile in the paragraph dealing with the 1962 year to write about the American CR-71 aircraft, which made its first combat flight on 21 on March 1968 from the Kadena air base in Okinawa
    1. +2
      1 June 2019 15: 17
      There have u-xnumx mentioned.
      1. +1
        1 June 2019 15: 20
        became home to U-2 scouts and SR-71,

        Well here is the text. Write carefully, the material is interesting.
        1. +2
          1 June 2019 15: 33
          Bases in Thailand operated even after 1973, everything "beats" in time, in the sources of the American SR-71 is mentioned without reference to dates and operations. So far, I don't see a contradiction, in 1972-1975 they could have flown from there, if you look at it in time.
        2. +2
          1 June 2019 15: 36
          But in the list of deployments - 1970

          perating Location, SAC deployment base for U-2 and SR-71 reconnaissance
          aircraft (before and later called Det n), where _XX_ is a two letter code:

          OL-RK - Kadena AB, Okinawa, Japan, U-2 and SR-71, also known as:
          OL-8, OL-KA, (OLKA), (OLRK), later to Det 1, (disestablished?),
          (OL-8 became OL-RK on 10 / 30 / 1970, later changed to OL-KA),
          (OL-RK stands for "Operating Location - Ryukyys", a chain of
          islands, of which Okinawa is a part of)

          OL-KA - Kadena AB, Okinawa, Japan, U-2 and SR-71, also known as:
          OL-8, OL-RK, (OLRK), (OLKA), later to Det 1, (disestablished?),
          (OL-RK became OL-KA on 10 / 21 / 1971, to Det 1 in 08 / 1974),
          (OL-KA stands for "Operating Location - Kadena")

          OL-RU - U-Tapao RTAFB, Thailand, U-2, previously known as:
          OL-20 (at Bien Hoa, Vietnam, moved to U-Tapao RTAFB in 07 / 1970),
          (redesignated 99th SRS, 11 / 1972, and moved back to Beale AFB, CA)
          (OL-RU stands probably for "Operating Location - RTAFB U-Tapao"?)



          The accident of one of 71's in Thailand 10 in May 1970, fell off AB Korat.

          Loss # 16 61-7969 (SR-71A) Lost on 10 May 1970 during an operational mission from Kadena, Okinawa against North Vietnam. Shortly after air-refueling, the pilot, Major William E. Lawson initiated a normal full power climb. Stretching before him was a solid bank of cloud containing heavy thunderstorm activity which reached above 45,000 '. Heavy with fuel, the aircraft was unable to maintain a high rate of climb and as it entered turbulence both engines flamed out. The RPM dropped to a level too low for restarting the engines. Pilot and RSO, Major Gilbert Martinez ejected safely after the aircraft stalled. The crew were rescued near U Tapao, Thailand. The plane crashed near Korat RTAFB, Thailand.


          In short, everything is neat, as it should.
          1. +1
            1 June 2019 18: 13
            We flew, I did not say otherwise. But purely stylistically, it was impossible to put this phrase in the section about 1962. What was worth adding "and where later began to fly and SR-71 "
            1. +1
              1 June 2019 21: 20
              Well, maybe.
  8. +5
    1 June 2019 22: 13
    The DRV heard about the skill of the special forces of the army back in the mid-80s, the story of the destruction of the B-52 at the airport was then known in the USSR, it was understood at seminars on special tactics. Thanks to the Art of Disguise (just like that, only with a capital letter), the special forces of Vietnam did what is considered fairy tales to this day. Thanks to them, their lessons in the art of camouflage and overcoming various kinds of obstacles, the ability to make caches, and to make simple but effective traps from natural materials and improvised tools saved more than one life of the special forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation.
    1. +3
      1 June 2019 22: 57
      We learned from them, went there.
  9. +1
    2 June 2019 01: 25
    here is this article!
    Thank you very much for the author.
    And it seems that I was aware that Thailand was in conjunction with the United States, but somehow I didn’t think about the scale of its role ... But really, if it weren’t for the Thais, the course of the war would be completely different
    1. +1
      3 June 2019 11: 13
      Quote: SASHA OLD
      here is this article!
      many thanks to the author for it ...... Thailand was in conjunction with the United States ....

      Yes, staff members prepared a foothold for themselves and found long-term allies, partners.
      In this regard, insults to domestic reformers, who have nullified the long-term programs begun under socialism, come to mind. How much has been thrown, both of human labor and of means, has not been brought to an end, ====== 000000.
      From where our country left, staff members got in there. And it is all over the world.
  10. +1
    3 June 2019 09: 41
    But does anyone have any material about Thai (more correctly written) volunteers who fought on the side of the DRV? I read somewhere that there were such.
  11. 0
    3 June 2019 19: 54
    In fact, for Thailand, the American war proved to be profitable - it strengthened it by not demanding in return anything but a few hundred dead. Even from a military point of view, Thailand came out of it stronger than it was - a lot of experienced soldiers returned from the war, and the Americans transferred a lot of military equipment to Thailand.


    It’s also profitable. On the Thai border, the communist "domino" has stopped forever.
  12. +1
    9 September 2019 18: 12
    My father is a Vietnamese, a veteran of the Vietnam War and a gentleman of the Order for the combat feat that he received for intelligence. an operation in which his group destroyed by surprise about 20 enemy soldiers. He fought as part of the regular army of the North Vietnam from 1972 until the victory in 1975. He received baptism of fire in southern Laos during the battles for Paxsong (1972 - 1973). For Americans, this operation was called Black Lion V (available on Wikipedia in English, you can read it). Actually, these Thais, and not only them, were ironed there. Thais there were about 7 battalions. Father was first sent to the experimental assault 9th regiment, but then transferred to another unit (also took part in the battles for Paxsong), because he was very young (18 years) without experience. As he said, the guys from this assault unit (9th regiment) were very good at fighting and had many years of experience in conducting such operations. Regiment commanders served in such units for many, many years, there was no rotation, but this is understandable. On the edge of this batch near Paksong was this 9th regiment and sappers Duck Kong (Vietnamese special forces). The 9th regiment suffered heavy losses from enemy art and bombs, but in the end they took Paxong. About these Thais, his father said that they were dressed in the latest fashion of American military fashion, only they fought to say the least so-so ...