12 failures by Napoleon Bonaparte. Pyrenean Gambit

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In the global confrontation with the British Empire, Napoleonic France, sooner or later had to solve the problem not only of Russia, but also of Spain and Portugal. Otherwise, the idea of ​​a Continental blockade, designed to bring the proud Albion to its knees, lost all meaning. Russia, after the 1805 and 1806-1807 companies, after Austerlitz and Friedland, after the peace in Tilsit, seemed to be able to fit into the Napoleonic economic system. Spain was next in line, where a dynastic crisis happened just in time.

However, unlike Italy, where the great Corsican authorities were willing to accept virtually all, Spain did not hurry with the adoption of the rules of the game imposed by France. The most inconceivable proposals that Napoleon made to the Madrid court did not find understanding there. However, the emperor began with Portugal - this English foothold at the junction of Europe and Africa.




Lisbon

Prince Regent Joao, who ruled there instead Mad Murray, was already a bit French and Spanish in the war 1801 years, known as the "Orange". At one time, he was fascinated by the future Napoleonic Marshal Lann, and began to maintain good relations with France, which, under Napoleon, parted with a revolutionary legacy that irritated this representative of one of the oldest royal dynasties.

However, the cooperation with London in Lisbon have not given up - how can jeopardize maritime routes linking the metropolis with the colonies, above all - with Brazil. Even after a series of Napoleonic victories, the Prince Regent refused to declare war on England, and Napoleon immediately offered the Spaniards an alliance to overthrow the Braganzian dynasty and to divide Portugal.

12 failures by Napoleon Bonaparte. Pyrenean Gambit

Juan, Prince Regent of Portugal, who managed to become King Joan VI

The corresponding secret agreement, another 27 of October 1807, was signed at Fontainebleau by Marshal Gerard Duroc and his Spanish counterpart, the king's favorite, who had the experience of Secretary of State and First Minister Manuel Godoy. On the march to Lisbon, along with the 8-thousandth Spanish corps, 28 thousands of Frenchmen were sent, and 40 thousands more entered Spain, to support the Portuguese expedition. Napoleon hoped to "change" the north of Portugal, already occupied by the French, in the province of Entre-Douro, gets the name of the North-kingdom Luzitanian.

For the sake of complete confidence in success, the emperor was ready to make happy not only the Spanish monarch Charles IV, but also to make Prince his favorite, the all-powerful generalissimo Godoy, who had among other things the title of “prince of the world”, whose main achievement was popularly called the queen's lover Marie-Louise. Godoyu owed the Portuguese province of Alentejo and Algarve, and for the connection to France, Napoleon outlined almost all the north of Spain until the Ebro. Here the emperor, too, was scheduled spectacular exchange - the whole of Portugal at once.


Manuel Godoy, favorite of the king, lover of the queen, generalissimo and "prince of peace"

His truly grandiose plans are not at all surprising - Napoleon then easily redrawed the borders of Europe, and set his relatives on thrones, as if he were rearranging pieces on a chessboard. To make such a sacrifice, as one of the “degenerated dynasties” - it was quite in the spirit of the Corsican. However, while surrounded by Napoleon not counted combination with the coronation of his brother Joseph in Madrid, all the more that the very good feeling in Naples. Nevertheless, the wobbly Spanish throne was certainly one of the factors that the French emperor was ready to use at any moment. “Spain has long been the object of my thoughts,” said Napoleon.

The 1 th Gironde Corps was formed as an observant under the command of General Junot back in August 1807, mainly from the conscripts of the new set. October 17 he crossed the Spanish border and in mid-November was already under Salamanca. The target was Lisbon, and although the Spanish government did little to support the march, Junot moved to the Portuguese capital a short way, where he was expected to have great supply difficulties. But in the same place, at Alcantara, an auxiliary Spanish corps was waiting for him. The hike was well supported by information - the whole of Europe started talking about the hike to Gibraltar.

With the accession of the Spaniards, the problem of supply has become even more acute. And although the aggressors in the Portuguese land did not encounter armed resistance, they were firmly inherited from a few local people. It responded to looting and looting with attacks on foragers and the killing of backward soldiers. The Prince Regent hurried to express his readiness to fulfill all the requirements of Napoleon, but this could not change anything.

On November 24, the army of General Andosh Junod, one of Napoleon’s few close friends who never received a marshal's baton, hungry and badly battered, arrived in Abrantes (now Abrantes). In honor of this town, General Ducne would later be granted the ducal title, although in the end, only Napoleon himself could call his trip to Portugal successful in his legendary bulletins. However, the first part of the Portuguese campaign was indeed more than successful.

From Abrantes Junot notified the Portuguese government that in four days he would be in Lisbon. By this time there is already anchored the British ships of Rear Admiral Smith Sydney, the man who managed in opposition to Bonaparte to defend Acre. The energetic Smith immediately declared Lisbon in a state of siege and suggested that the royal family be evacuated to Brazil. In Juneau at the time it was no more than 6 thousand able-bodied men and officers, and to the capital, he boldly walked only four battalions. This was the case when the very appearance of the French troops was worth the victory.



Lisbon fell without a fight in the last days of November 1807. The French even managed to fire Smith ships from Belem, stuck in the roadstead due to strong headwinds. When to the outskirts of the city it was already stretching to 16 of thousands of French, General Junot earnestly set about building a peaceful life. The regiments were located in cantoner-flats in the capital and its surroundings, the Spanish corps of the Marquis Solano occupied Setubal, Elvas and the province of Algarve, and the troops of General Taranco occupied the north of Portugal.

Junot simply disbanded a part of the Portuguese army, about 6 thousands of soldiers and officers joined the French divisions, and 12 thousands were sent to France. By this time, new French troops were entering Spain - the 2 of the Gironde Corps, also with supervisory functions, under the command of General Dupont with a force of 25 thousand people, and also 24 of the thousandth coastal corps of Marshal Monsey. Monsey's forces were stationed in Biscay, and Dupont occupied Valladolid, pushing the vanguard towards Salamanca. Napoleon, taking advantage of peace in Europe, continued to increase his military presence in the Pyrenees.

The situation around the Spanish throne was also pushing the emperor. The heir to the throne, Ferdinand, Prince of Asturias, who was at enmity with Godoy, was not hiding, sought the protection of Napoleon, and even turned to one of his nieces. This request remained unanswered, but the aged king responded with the arrest of his son in the Escorial castle, and Ferdinand was threatened with trial for insulting the supreme power. However, the arrest, organized with the filing of the same Godoy, did not last long.

At the turn of 1807 and 1808, French troops continued to accumulate in Spain. Moncei advanced to the river Ebro, and his troops replaced the West Pyrenean corps of Marshal Bessieres, who had put garrisons in Pamplona and San Sebastian. Corps Duhem, having entered Catalonia, settled in Figueres and Barcelona, ​​although this required a direct deception of local authorities. 6 thousand guards under the command of General Dorsenna arrived in Bayonne. The general leadership of the army, which occupied the entire north of Spain without a war, was entrusted to Murat.

However, so far there have been no signs of possible popular indignation, although in the entourage of King Charles IV, it was increasingly said that the dynasty could wait for the same fate as the Braganz family. Moreover, the most enterprising people in the government began to prepare the departure of the royal family to Mexico. The first protest against the French took place directly in Aranjuez, the seat of the court. The rioters even managed to seize Minister Godoy himself, who was severely beaten and saved only as a result of the intervention of Prince Ferdinand.

Frightened by the king hurried to abdicate in favor of his son, but it had happened it gave the French a carte blanche to join Madrid. Murat entered the capital of March 23 with a guard and part of the corps of Monsey. All this time the Emperor himself remained above the fray, as it were, besides, he was too busy organizing the blockade, which would seem to have managed to involve the whole of continental Europe. However, the Emperor ordered the troops to advance towards Burgos Bessieres and Dupont, in order to avoid excesses, take Escorial, Aranjuez and Segovia.

The day after Murat, Ferdinand arrived in Madrid, met with enthusiasm by the people. In spite of the fact that the future Neapolitan king, and at that moment - only the Duke of Berg Murat, in every possible way shied away from intercourse with him, Ferdinand, already a monarch, reiterated his desire to preserve the alliance with France. He also repeated his offer to Napoleon’s niece. But at the same time, taking advantage of the fact that Murat ignored his son, Charles IV, he announced his abdication forced and asked for help, of course, to the French emperor.


Madrid

The stalemate led to the fact that Napoleon finally decided to intervene in Spanish affairs in person, and went to Madrid. Following him, following the advice of Murat and Savary, a diplomat and a former secret police chief who was in the Pyrenees as corps commander, Ferdinand left with his retinue. Edit in Madrid that "almost king" instructed junta headed by one of the most favorite among the people of relatives - uncles heir Don Antonio.

Ferdinand, who had come to Bayonne morning 20 April was received with royal honors, but it's time to implement a combination of Joseph seems to have come. On the evening of the same day, General Savary informed Ferdinand that Napoleon had decided to transfer the Spanish throne to one of the members of the Bonaparte dynasty. The emperor demanded from Ferdinand renunciation and offered him instead of Spain Etruria and Portugal.

The king himself, who was not yet crowned king, was detained at Bayonne, in fact, in the prisoner's position. Stendal described the situation briefly, but very succinctly: “it was just as difficult for Ferdinand to be held captive by Napoleon, as well as to return his freedom. It turned out that Napoleon had committed a crime - and could not take advantage of its fruits. ” The end was due to the fact that Ferdinand Charles IV's father, no longer the king, arrived in Bayonne.

In Bayonne, Napoleon not only achieved a double renunciation from the Spanish Bourbons, but also dragged through the representatives of the ruling junta a new constitution of the country and the election of his elder brother Joseph, the king of Naples, Joseph, to the throne. 1 August 1808 was established in Naples by Joachim Murat, Duke of Berg and Cleves, Marshal of France, and part-time Caroline’s spouse, the sister of the French Emperor Napoleon I Bonaparte.


Napoleon signs act of renunciation of Charles IV in Bayonne

It would seem that all the conditions in order to close the Spanish question were created, but the Spaniards managed to explode much earlier. May 2, as soon as it became known about the renunciation of the popular Ferdinand, a rebellion broke out in Madrid. The reasons for indignation were more than enough, and in addition to the renunciation of the "almost king." To begin with the fact that the French troops behaved in Spain like real invaders, they also freed Godoy, hated by everyone, who seemed about to be convicted. The rumors that Ferdinand was arrested, and that he would be expelled, only heightened indignation.

The revolt was really terrible, the Spaniards managed to kill up to six hundred Frenchmen in half a day, and many in the hospital, the pogroms spread to the suburbs, where several regiments were quartered. But this time, the French managed to restore order in just one night and day. The shooting of the rebels, depicted in colors by the great Goya, is undeniably impressive, but among the rebels the losses were four times smaller than those of the French - only 150 people. And no one disputes these figures.


Francisco Goya. The shooting of the rebels in Madrid 2 May 1808 of the year

But outrage quickly swept the whole country. In Zaragoza and Cadiz, in Valencia and Seville, in a multitude of small towns and villages, the population ruled against the French officers and Spanish officials, who were only suspected of loyalty to the invaders. But formally, there was no occupation, and Napoleon did not declare war on Spain, which he later regretted more than once.

The emperor himself again put himself in a stalemate. Everywhere in Spain, the ruling junta were created, usually supporting Ferdinand, and many of them, for example, the Asturian, almost immediately asked for help from England. First time in stories Spain showed what an armed people is - in a matter of days more than 120 thousand people took over weapon.

General Duhem’s troops were cut off from France in Barcelona, ​​and Napoleon made all the necessary orders to maintain communication between Bayonne and Madrid. For him, the main thing was to preempt the Spaniards in concentrating large forces of regular troops, without the support of which, as he thought, “the crowd was worth nothing.”

It is possible that if Napoleon began to deal with the Bourbons in Spain, directly declaring war on Charles IV, he would have avoided a popular uprising. It is possible, even, that the Spaniards, who hated Godoy, and mocked the old monarchy, would have met the French as liberators - following the example of the Italians. Still, it is hard to believe those historians who, in this case, attribute to the emperor the usual desire to avoid bloodshed.

And of the more specific reasons, let us pay attention first of all to the composition of the troops that first entered Spain - with the exception of the guards, most of them were recruits, and only Napoleon himself led the already experienced soldiers after the Pyrenees. However, the analysis of the reasons for the next, in our account - the third major failure of Napoleon Bonaparte is still ahead.

To be continued ...
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  1. +6
    April 6 2019 07: 21
    Spain was Napoleon's first serious strategic mistake. He got stuck seriously and for a long time.
    Without the desired result.
    The British also pulled themselves up.
    And then there's the invasion of Russia. Again the second front? And again, the logical ending ...
  2. +3
    April 6 2019 07: 49
    Napoleon's main mistake was undoubtedly a trip to Russia.
    1. +3
      April 6 2019 08: 13
      Quote: 210ox
      Napoleon's main mistake was undoubtedly a trip to Russia.

      Not even the main one, but fatal !!!
      1. +3
        April 6 2019 08: 30
        I completely agree with you. However, Napoleon would not have been Napoleon, and after the catastrophe that befell him in Russia, he managed to assemble an army twice and provide fierce resistance.
        1. +2
          April 6 2019 08: 34
          Quote: 210ox
          I completely agree with you. However, Napoleon would not have been Napoleon, and after the disaster that befell him in Russia managed to assemble the army twice and show fierce resistance.

          I will add that I was even able to take the Mother See, but in Paris we trampled pavers twice! So 2: 1 in our favor! hi
  3. +6
    April 6 2019 08: 15
    Napoleon, who ditched and ruined the country with his ambitions, is a national hero in France. And in Russia, a monument to Stalin, who created a superpower, you will not find during the day with fire, and even the Antichrist.
    Well, and Spain with backstage "dancing around the throne, I don't care.
    1. +3
      April 6 2019 08: 39
      Of course, Napoleon is both a populist and a talented organizer, but he could not plan for a long time. Regarding ruined .... France was ruined rather by the Bourbons than Napoleon. As for Stalin, here I completely agree with you. Until now, the last of the "cornfield" rule .. Here you can understand Mao and Enlan.
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        April 12 2019 09: 38
        Quote: 210ox
        about the ruin .... France was ruined by the Bourbons rather than Napoleon.

        This is a huge misconception. France, after many years of bloody frenzy of the Revolutionary Wars with their revolutionary terror, and the Napoleonic Wars, reached the level of economic development of the 1780 years only to ... 1830 !!! Wow lag in economic development in xnumx years then!

        And few people know, but Napoleonic France would seem at the peak of its military power in the 1812 year .... it turned out to be an economic bankrupt and declared a complete default! The monstrously inflated army simply forced this - while its main opponents, Great Britain and Russia, had a much better economic situation, despite a number of problems!
    2. +4
      April 6 2019 09: 48
      Colleagues, what I will say below is my purely subjective (personal) opinion! Therefore, if I offend anyone, I apologize in advance ...
      The Russian man’s mentality is determined by the scope of his soul, he is caused by pride in the greatness of the history of his Fatherland, the scope of its borders, open spaces, the diversity of peoples living on its territory, the wealth of natural and other resources, and the secret of confidence, “Russia is the homeland of elephants”! Although the "elephants" are different for everyone! From "only in Russia they know how to drink" to "Russia is the birthplace of radio" laughing
      But this factor beats up any “Russian” from the natural Rusak Gamzin Olbert Igorevich from the Urals, the Orthodox and steelmaker to Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov from Buryatia, by nationality they are Buryats and sincerely believing in local spirits, and to heap a working shaman for the last 10 years, to believe in their special mission and exclusivity. So in many discussions, secretly realizing ourselves over the situation, we are characterized by wide gestures and where a Belgian, Chinese or Anglo-Saxon steps on his throat and does not give up a “penny”, the Russian man will wave his hand and agree with a broad gesture.
      Now back to our “sheep”, or rather, to our rulers: Generalisimus Stalin, Emperor Peter the Great and Tsar Ivan IV the Terrible!
      Who are they, ........? Ivan is “Bloody”, “Horrible”, but in our memory he remains like his grandfather “Terrible” !!! Even his Romanov heirs refused to mention their predecessor on the monument “1000th Anniversary of Russia”!
      Peter the Great “Antichrist”, “Ghoul” and “Vardulak”, in the history of Russia remained the Founder of the Fleet, the First Emperor and the Great! In recent years, only the lazy did not pour mud on him, .....
      Third ..... "Stalin", he went down in the history of our country, under the pseudonym, and in the memory of the people remained an unbending Georgian, leader, generalissimo under whose leadership our people won the most terrible war .......
      If to summarize, all three are directly or indirectly guilty of the death of their sons, unhappy in their personal lives, had phobias, or even were mentally unstable or sick! But this did not prevent them from serving in the difficult year for the benefit of the Fatherland. So judgments about them can only be ambiguous and only crane opposite !!! So my opinion is that they, all three, were outstanding rulers of Russia, the Russian Empire and the USSR, and during their reign they did great things, and alas, great mistakes!
      Therefore, I agree with R. Kadyrov that I. Stalin did irreparable harm to the Chechen people, but I will be convinced that he saved the peoples of the USSR, including the Chechens from the “brown plague”!
      Maybe this is my personal mistake that I am putting myself above the situation and I am sure that “we are the birthplace of elephants” and time will put everything in its place! Time will tell ..... for only it is eternal ....
      Ps In 2005, during a business trip to one of the district police departments ....... of the Chechen Republic, in the chief’s office I saw three pencil portraits on the wall: Putin, Kadyrov and !!! .... Stalin. Frightened and insolent with surprise after the operative, he went to the head of the police department, a gray-haired, mustached colonel, an ethnic Chechen, and after a hundred apologies, asked “why Stalin”!
      He grinned in his mustache, and then mischievously poured himself and me 200 grams of vodka and made me drink. And he says - "were you the captain wrong?"
      The answer is yes?
      He tightened his cigarette and answered, “I was also mistaken, my father was mistaken”, “my grandfather also lost due to sheep’s mistakes”, “my children and grandchildren will be mistaken - this is the essence of man and his nature cannot be corrected”, “great people also do great mistakes, but in our hands to be able to correct and forgive them! ”
      The captain is free, but don’t tell where you have seen. I’ll be burned if they recognize me on the side ......, I ask again, sober from impudence, but still in the department do you have an office? He smiled and answered “when they kill me, I will know that they betrayed me”!
      After that I found out that he was one of the “generals" of Dudaev. Today he is no longer there, but from my sources I know that all three portraits continue to hang on the wall!
      Thank you for your kind regards, Kote!
      1. +2
        April 6 2019 10: 17
        Cat hi In his monologue, I forgot to mention Catherine 11 and Potemkin. soldier Milestone in the history of Russia after all.
        1. +2
          April 6 2019 10: 38
          I absolutely agree with you. Without them and many others, the history of Russia would have been different !!! The role of women in the history of Russia and their favorites is a separate and bright page! From the mythical Princess Olga and Elena Glinskaya to the German on the throne, which was called the Great and the second of the galaxy of Russian emperors !!! In fact, V. Ryzhov has the experience of "living" the rulers of the house of the Rurikovich, I think A. Podymova will repeat the experience of a colleague ....
          But the most tragic, ambiguous, vibrant, extraordinary, outstanding and at the same time frightening figures of the past days of our country are still three: Ivan the Terrible, Peter the Great and Stalin!
          Regards, Vlad!
    3. +2
      April 6 2019 13: 56
      Quote: Fedorov
      Napoleon who ruined and ruined the country

      Quote: Fedorov
      And in Russia, a monument to Stalin, who created a superpower, you will not find with fire in the afternoon

      Do you have enough articles about Stalin on this resource?
      Every fourth is about him, but everything is not enough for you. You (in the sense, not you personally, Fedorov, but in general, the admirers of this statesman) are trying to turn Stalin and Ivan the Terrible into a couple of clowns with your eternal dithyrambs, who have nothing in common with real historical characters. A sort of wise, generous, strong and formidable rulers, from one movement of their eyebrows the whole wildly barbaric European world trembles. Do not give, do not take the Lion King from the cartoon of the same name.
      Personally, I have a deep respect for both, but the fact that they are turned into such inept clumsy attempts to prove their greatness, which doesn’t need any proof, which are undertaken here and to the place and out of place (for example, Napoleon), causes irritation at first, and then it will be (and is already starting) to simply cause laughter. And okay, they will laugh at you, you deserve it, because they will start your idols. You yourself, you understand? - make your idols a mockery.
      It remains only to wait until it starts: "Stalin and the Stove-maker", "Walkers at Stalin's", Stalin in October "," Children about Stalin ", the collective farm" Vissarionych's Way " Repin's painting is being lustrated and I feel that I won't have to wait long.
      1. 0
        April 6 2019 14: 11
        That's right Michael!
      2. +1
        April 6 2019 14: 34
        Actually, PPKS. What is happening on the site in terms of the degree of worship of Stalin has recently begun to resemble a religious sect, with the obligatory mention of it to the point and out of place. This has been annoying for a long time, and is already starting to scare. According to Ivan the Terrible, the degree of worship is noticeably less, but it is also already beginning to annoy - as in different, ahem, multidisciplinary sites there is a fashion to race comments with rich content "First!", "Second!", So soon there will be laconic comments on the topvar under each topic about Stalin and the Terrible, which would be "especially" appropriate, for example, in the topic about Cleopatra, or the battle at Adrianople in 1913.
  4. +2
    April 6 2019 15: 12
    "Here's Johnny!" laughing

    In principle, a good article, but there are some errors and inaccuracies in it that I dare to correct, and in some places to supplement the content of the article.
    The most unthinkable proposals that Napoleon made to the Madrid court did not find understanding there.

    Whatever proposals Napoleon makes to the Spaniards, "all we owe - we forgive." In fact, he saw in Spain and its colonies a raw material and military appendage of France, and dictated his terms to the royal court. When a conflict began between Carlos and Fernando, he quickly came to a simple idea - since the dynasty subordinate to him is sliding into anarchy. we need to replace her with our own, faithful and reliable guys. For example, a brother.
    Abrantes (now Abrantes)

    No, not now. It's just that Abrantes is a Portuguese pronunciation, and Abrantes is Spanish, which is more familiar to our ears, with the same spelling. By the way, you spelled the Spanish pronunciation correctly, through "e" - it is customary for us to call this city Abrantis-Abrantis incorrectly, through "and".
    On 2 of May, as soon as it became known about the abdication of the popular Ferdinand, an uprising broke out in Madrid.

    The uprising broke out not because of the abdication of Fernando (which no one knew much about yet), but because of the removal of all the representatives of the Spanish Bourbons to France - together with the introduction of the French troops, this was seen as a betrayal and a stab in the back. Roughly speaking, the people first rushed to the defense of the ruling dynasty, and then the French simply began to remember all the good - and remember what happened.
    The shooting of the rebels, in the colors portrayed by the great Goya, is undeniably impressive, but among the rebels the losses were four times less than that of the French - only 150 people. And no one disputes these figures.

    The problem is that you mixed up the losses of the parties. The rebels lost up to six hundred dead, the French - only about one and a half hundred, and the unknown number of wounded. This is not surprising given the fact that Madrid suffered an acute shortage of weapons (navajas, clubs - good, but not against the imperial cavalry, cuirassiers, Mamluks, dragoons, artillery and a clear system of fusiliers, giving volley after volley), and even parts of the garrison of the city were disarmed before the uprising at the insistence of the French. Monteleon Artillery Park, the only part of the regular Royal Army that joined the rebellion, had weapons, guns and gunpowder, but had practically no normal ammunition. In particular, the guns had to be fired not with buckshot, but with gun flints. In fact, all the losses that the French suffered were soldiers torn out of the general system, victims of solitary attacks, and killed and wounded during the assaults of Monteleon. In such circumstances, the rebels are doomed to heavy losses.
    For the first time in history, Spain showed what an armed people is - in a matter of days, over 120 thousand people took up arms.

    Here you seem to have quoted Vicki, and in vain. 120 thousand - this is the approximate size of the REGULAR Spanish army, the support of the civilian population was, but at that time it was still not so significant, and did not have such a large role, since there was no urgent need for poorly trained recruits, and the French were quickly expelled from Spain at first. The time of the armed people came later, after the arrival of Napoleon, when the regular army suffered significant losses, and the population constantly made up for these losses at the expense of various partisan detachments, which merged with regular regiments as needed, and also formed their own quite regular regiments (hussars "El Empesinado "Dies, for example). This, by the way, is the uniqueness of the Iberian War - despite the fact that we glorify it as a guerrilla, in fact the partisans played only an auxiliary function, it was mainly the regular army that fought, which the French beat more than once, but could not finally defeat it - she restored any losses, and even winning one battle out of three or four, inflicted significant damage on the French.
    It is possible that if Napoleon began to deal with the Bourbons in Spain, directly declaring war on Charles IV, he would have avoided a popular uprising. It is even possible that the Spaniards, who hated Godoy and taunted the old monarch, would have met the French as liberators - following the example of the Italians.

    Very, very doubtful. The Spaniards mentally in those days were still khatoskrainiks, and they are ready to defend their khatoskrynost to the last, with the exception of a small stratum of the "progressive" elite, to which Godoy belonged and which discredited itself by sycophancy before the French during allied relations. Any foreigner for ordinary Spaniards is a stranger, any invasion of a foreign army spurs the growth of chauvinism and hatred, the French could only be met by the Catalans. Plus, the French, with their arrogance and disdain for their allies, got the Spaniards by 1808, their dislike for them was already practically nationwide, spreading from the fleet and army "down". In such conditions, popular support for the war against Napoleon, especially for a defensive war, was simply inevitable; the Spanish Question simply did not have a simple military solution for France. But Napoleon did not know and did not understand, and even if he did understand later, it was already too late.
    1. +1
      April 6 2019 21: 48
      Thanks for the clarification!
      In the morning I waited for you to look at the light and was not mistaken !!!
    2. +1
      April 7 2019 10: 15
      Spain accepted the Fifth Philip quite willingly (with the exception of Catalonia - but what kind of Spain is it?). It’s just that Bonnie was consistent and did not miss a single mistake - he did everything to anger the Spaniards.
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        April 7 2019 14: 14
        Quote: sivuch
        Spain welcomed Fifth Philip quite willingly

        As a blood relative of the previous king, moreover, it was the progressive part of the aristocracy who accepted him, and Philip had no particular contact with the common people - he hovered there, upstairs, like a king. With Napoleon’s invasion, the French emperor wouldn’t hover somewhere in high matters, like the French soldiers, who in any case would behave like conquerors, and even without it, in the eyes of the Spanish peasants, the French are strangers.
        Quote: sivuch
        with the exception of Catalonia - but what kind of Spain is it?

        And Catalonia accepted another candidate for the kings of Spain, from the Austrian Habsburgs. Yes, dynastic war, a few pretenders, and all that. But the king is one thing, but the Spaniards took the aliens quite ... ambiguously. Why there - half a century before the war for the Spanish inheritance there was such an uprising, the Segador, one of the reasons for which was the entry into Catalonia due to the war with France of German and Italian mercenaries. They were the same Catholics as the Catalans, but spoke a different language, and the Catalans accepted them hostilely and counted heretics simply because they are not like the Catalans who added fuel to the rebellion when it started. Why, they didn’t really like the Castilians at that time, perceiving them as strangers, this "closely related chauvinism" was overcome only in the 150th century, already under the Bourbons, but chauvinism towards everyone because of the Iberian Peninsula still persisted. Napoleon's invasion took place XNUMX years later, but I assure you, on the mental level, little has changed among the Spanish peasants. Speaks not in their language and serves another king - this means that a stranger and must be perceived as hostile, if he came with a weapon in his hands and just looks askance at your chicken, grain supplies, wife and daughter - this is a reason to consider him an enemy and make every effort to murder or banishment. This feature of the mentality developed over the years of the church's processing and after the Reconquista, and made Spain one of the most inconvenient countries for conquering in Europe - the further you invade it, the more resistance and hatred you cause, unless, of course, we are talking about dynastic disputes between the legitimate heirs (the very war for the Spanish inheritance that you brought, and then - I have already said that if the candidates were generally accepted normally, then their French, Austrian, British and other troops were perceived very hostilely among the peasants).

        Here is such a holiday of humanism and tolerance from the Iberian Peninsula laughing
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      April 23 2019 00: 15
      Quote: arturpraetor
      Any foreigner for ordinary Spaniards is a stranger, any invasion of a foreign army spurs the growth of chauvinism and hatred, only the Catalans could calmly meet the French.
      Which, by the way, already at that time were oriented more towards England than to France.

      Quote: arturpraetor
      This feature of the mentality developed over the years of the church’s processing and after the Reconquista, and made Spain one of the most uncomfortable countries for conquering in Europe - the further you invade it, the more resistance and hatred you cause
      Absolutely correctly noticed! In Russia, by the way, exactly the same! and therefore, after many researchers, I believe that Spain and Russia for several centuries were very mentally close, precisely in terms of worldview.
  5. +1
    April 6 2019 19: 42
    Great commander, but as a politician, a complete insignificance, it is necessary to come up with a "continental blockade" -for this, you need to control the entire coast of Europe-and everything to spoil England-did not come up with anything smarter? that's all.
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    April 7 2019 21: 41
    How grateful I would be if someone wrote a series of articles on the Napoleonic Wars. I mean the chronicle, by years and countries, starting with the war of the first coalition, and ending with the seventh. For example, the year 1792 — those events in Russia, those in France — those in Italy — others, and so on, the meaning is clear. I can’t find anything like this, although I really want to.
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      April 12 2019 09: 46
      Quote: Vlad_N
      How grateful I would be if someone wrote a series of articles on the Napoleonic Wars. I mean the chronicle, by years and countries, starting with the war of the first coalition, and ending with the seventh


      About the entire cycle of the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars, there is no, but about the Pyrenees Wars of France - here I have just material in two parts - "Faith in Jesus Christ is higher than faith in the ideals of the republic":
      https://pravoslavie.ru/113537.html - часть 1
      https://pravoslavie.ru/114553.html - часть 2

      By the way, the material was written in co-authorship with Spanish researchers of the problem, which, in my opinion, is still a rarity for Russia, there is a "Spanish view" of the struggle between Spain and France, and a number of extremely little-known facts are shown there.
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    April 9 2019 01: 51
    Among other things, there was also such a factor: Spain at that time was a decrepit, but superpower. She received, of course, in the face from the English pirate Drake, lost the Netherlands and influence in Italy, but still owned vast colonies. Therefore, the people could not accept the French as "masters" who would dispose of the Spanish throne purely mentally, no matter what their monarchs did there.
    This is in contrast to the same Austrians, where no "guerrilla" happened.
    And the same mental coincidence with the Russians - there, too, the European Union people were perceived by the people as rats to be exterminated, and not as "new bosses". Moreover, to a large extent spontaneously, purely from the heart.
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      April 12 2019 09: 50
      Quote: faterdom
      Spain at that time was decrepit, but a superpower. She received, of course, in the face from the English pirate Drake, lost the Netherlands and influence in Italy, but still owned vast colonies.

      Sorry, but this is a huge mistake. Firstly, the loss of Holland - and not all of the Spanish Netherlands - is the 1648 year, 150 years have already passed by the time of the French invasion. Secondly, look at what the WORLD economy of that era was based on - the SPANISH SILVER DOLLAR (the American dollar was just starting its ascent, and the British pound had not yet received such a spread as later).

      Quote: faterdom
      And this is a mental coincidence with the Russians - there, too, the people perceived the European Union as rats to be destroyed

      Here, and in my material, about which I wrote above - "Faith in Jesus Christ above faith in the ideals of the republic" - this is exactly what is being said. As long as the French behaved correctly, there was nothing, but almost immediately they began to pursue a policy of de-Christianization and the introduction of republican institutions, which triggered the people's war.
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    April 9 2019 08: 26
    ".. and Dupont, in order to avoid excesses, occupy El Escorial, Aranjuez and Segovia ..." The question to the author - what excesses have you managed to avoid? What did they threaten with? Who made the decision to occupy these points on the map? By what forces? As always - superficial. Reads like a school textbook.
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      April 12 2019 09: 51
      Quote: wolf20032
      and Dupont, in order to avoid excesses, occupy El Escorial, Aranjuez and Segovia ... "The question to the author - what excesses did he manage to avoid? What did they threaten? Who made the decision to occupy these points on the map? By what forces? As always - superficially. It reads like a schoolboy. textbook.

      Unfortunately, in spite of my great personal respect for the author, I have to agree that, as you have noticed a long time ago, "Napoleonics" is clearly not his topic.
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    April 9 2019 08: 33
    Quote: Vlad_N
    How grateful I would be if someone wrote a series of articles on the Napoleonic Wars. I mean the chronicle, by years and countries, starting with the war of the first coalition, and ending with the seventh.

    I recommend books and cycles of lectures and speeches by the Petersburg historian O.V. Sokolova, associate professor of the faculty of St. Petersburg University, candidate of historical sciences. On YouTube, his performances are present in a multitude.